The Incomparable

00:00:00 ◼   ► the in tom parental number 236 februari [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► 2015 welcome back everybody to the [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► incomparable i'm your host Jason L this [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► is something that we didn't plan but we [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► record this on Friday februari 27 2015 [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► and woke up this morning or just as I [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► was sitting down to work this morning to [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► the news that Leonard Nimoy mr. Spock to [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► us all passed away today and you know it [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► took some time to process it and thought [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► maybe we could get some people together [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► and talk about him a little bit for a [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► special episode of the podcast and so [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► that is what you're listening to now [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► joining me to talk about it are my my [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► pals they're here with me now David [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► Laura hello i am I gotta say this is not [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► the way to bank episodes and get a hit [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► on episodes but we can do you know it [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► definitely was worth talking about your [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► cat rummaging through things now my cat [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► is ribbon cup caper [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► oh that's he's nesting he's nesting [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► ruiner of podcast the cats see lots of [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► p'kat just is kind enough to just poop [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► in the room that you singing quietly [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► also also with us [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► indian taco hi Andy I have a cat free [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► silence that is sometimes like a close [TS]

00:01:26 ◼   ► to him [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► that's interesting I I Lord is the sound [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► of no cats playing very soon always it's [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► actually it's not so much i have no cats [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► i have cat and no cat in opposite hands [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► at the same time one of them is dead and [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► is alive [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► yea indeed and also of course we're [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► talking about things really start Trek [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► Scott McNulty has has has pulled himself [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► out of his sickbed to join us hi Scott [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► well I wish it was a better topic kind [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► of a happier topic i should say but I'm [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► happy to be here so you know I don't [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► obviously we don't have a really really [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► plan here i am maybe a good place to [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► start would beat it for for everybody to [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► talk about what [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► you know what mr. Spock or Leonard Nimoy [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► or both meant to them i think that i [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► think that might be a nice way to to [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► remember him at least it's a start i'll [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► point out just going first my I can't [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► remember i said this in previous pockets [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► i can't remember life before Star Trek [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► and I was thinking about today I can't [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► remember life before knowing Star Trek [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► like you know like every episode cold I [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► I remember I can't remember seeing a [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► star trek episode and thinking oh I [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► don't know what happens in this one I [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► just have no memory of that this is it [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► was a fundamental part of my my [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► childhood and obviously mr. Spock was a [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► huge part of that and it's uh so on on [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► that level yeah it part of this is me [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► thinking back to my childhood and and [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► losing a person who was a very important [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► part of it because that was just it [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► affected me so much to have a dead star [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► trek and Kirk and Spock McCoy were just [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► they were friends they were they were [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► people I looked up to there were people [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► I model myself after on the on the [TS]

00:03:12 ◼   ► playground right i mean it pretty pretty [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► dramatic and then through the years [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► through the the Star Trek films when I [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► was a teenager and you know through his [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► appearances in various things even as [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► recently as a couple years ago just [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► somebody that I I thought we could talk [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► about this a little more later I got [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► handled the fact that he was going to be [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► he had a great luck of being attached to [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► this amazing character and as an actor I [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► think the misfortune in a way of being [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► attached to such as an indelible [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► character and yet I think he wore it [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► well and embraced the fact that he was [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► going to be associated with this [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► character and of all the characters to [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► be associated with pretty good one so [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► but definitely I'm definitely an [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► emotional moment this morning in hearing [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► I mean we heard that he had been taken [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► to the hospital and and not a lot more [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► after that my thought that's you know [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► that's and I've been there I've been my [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► father was a born the same year is [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► Leonard Nimoy only a couple months [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► earlier and had COPD just like Leonard [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► Nimoy and that that earlier this week [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► when we heard the story that he had been [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► taking the hospital I had that moment of [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► like I this I know what's going to [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► happen [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► I that I've been in that place where his [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► family was and so still very sad to [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► receive the news [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► Scott what about you with you what's [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► your what's your story of how you [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► discovered in and and and interacted [TS]

00:04:34 ◼   ► with monday morning mr. Spock out well I [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► i think he was around before i [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► discovered him but uh huh well not a [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► talent scout with the time machine [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► clearly and using this tool kit Lenny [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► from Boston he's going places you go and [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► places kid it's easier that don't ask [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► any questions [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► well I've been just like you I think [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► Jason we've talked about this before i [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► also don't remember a time in my life [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► where I wasn't a Star Trek fan and I was [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► asking my mom about this couple weeks [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► ago and she said well you're always [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► watching Star Trek I don't know when you [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► started but she wasn't a Star Trek fan [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► so I think it was just you know in [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► syndication forever probably on channel [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► 11 in New York and I would watch it over [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► and over again and of course I mean you [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► know Spock is kirk and spock right they [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► have this great friendship Spock plays [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► this kind of outsider that probably [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► appeals to many people move fine and [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► affiliation with startrack I can paint [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► with a broad broad but brush and say [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► that maybe some of the fans of structure [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► our little nerdy and maybe feel slightly [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► outcast especially in you know grammar [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► school and and that kind of thing and [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► you find this character Spock who has a [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► you know he isn't unlike everybody else [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► in the bridge but he is still respected [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► and get this job done and so I mean it i [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► think that that is part of the reason [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► that Spock so popular [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► and and why he appealed to me so much I [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► don't know if Spock is my my favorite [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► certain character but certainly he's [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► near the top [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► Andy about you I wasn't as a kid I [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► wasn't a huge Star Trek fan but I was [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► definitely a spark fan if that makes [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► sense it was whenever I was watching [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► that show it was always to see Leonard [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► Nimoy seen Senate and I think it's [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► because of its later in life when you're [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► an adult you have a little bit of a [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► wider awareness of how TV and how movies [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► work you really appreciate why your [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► attention is drawn to Nimoy because [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► you've got that you've got the [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► triumvirate of Spock McCoy and kirk and [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► Kirk is being that is being Shatner and [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► microrna has fortunes or injury and [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► white dress and Spock is the button [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► who's quiet and they have to do they [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► have to build his levels up but always [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► pause a little bit he will react [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► sometimes not by saying anything but [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► simply giving a glancing an eyebrow [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► eyebrow because that's all you need to [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► do sometimes and he really was for me [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► like the anchor that entire show and [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► everything that else has been said is I [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► was completely because you're sort of [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► gravity you sort of gravitate toward [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► these people you identify the the one in [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► any group that is not like all the [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► others and the ones who can not only is [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► it doesn't have to pretend to be like [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► the rest i can even openly say I will [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► never understand you people ever [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► there's a i wish i wish i could [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► understand why you behave the way you do [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► I don't and but I'm still going to work [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► with you i'm still going to call you my [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► friends but let's acknowledge that [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► there's that there's there's there's [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► parts of these puzzles that I will never [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► ever figure out and here's somebody on [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► TV aleve roll into on TV say that [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► explicitly for a lot of for a lot of [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► people who are fans of Star Trek myself [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► included really that you really can [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► gravitate towards that character David [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► whereby you [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► yeah i'm right with the I can't remember [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► a time before ya before Star Trek you [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► know I had the action figures when I was [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► three or four whatever and that i would [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► i would make up my own stories with the [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► enterprise playset and I made up my own [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► it came with cards [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► for the viewscreen right you had three [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► cards with two pictures one on each side [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► and you can hang them up on the view [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► screen and make your adventures I would [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► make my own cards so I had 30 cause I'm [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► all these adventures and you know that [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► was that's that's the earliest i can [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► remember making original stories you [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► know I mean I came to New i was going to [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► be a writer [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► anyway but that when i think back you [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► know what's the earliest thing I [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► remember writing that was it and I read [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► a really really good piece today by [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► Jamie weinman from Maclean's magazine in [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► canada and he said that there was just [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► something about Spock and something [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► about what Nimoy imbued spoke with that [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► wasn't on the page it wasn't in [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► Roddenberry's original version you know [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► it wasn't this red-skinned Martian with [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► a hot temper like the original concept [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► or or you know and and really any of the [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► original pilot right by the women and [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► women and there's just something about [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► whatever it was that he brought to the [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► character and and made it his own that [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► we on the outside wanted to write [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► fanfiction we wanted to to uncover the [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► rest of his story we wanted him and Kirk [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► to be more than just friends perhaps [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► depending on the fedex and writers don't [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► want that and you know I can't think of [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► a mean you can you can look back it [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► famous teams right you know the Lone [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► Ranger and Tonto and Holmes and Watson [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► but i cannot always really equal the way [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► Kirk and Spock are and they don't always [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► have a third like McCoy I was always [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► thought of them as as as the three right [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► I can't quite it's the balance isn't [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► right without any one of those three and [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► but but there's just something about [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► them that inspired this kind of [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► outpouring of fan fiction and this you [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► know the letter-writing campaigns and [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► the conventions in the syndication and [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► and imagine the serendipity of that you [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► know if if they had cast martin landau [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► as Spock he would have been really good [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► sure cuz he's Martin Landau what would [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► have been the same women who've you know [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► there's just something about the alchemy [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► of those three actors in those three [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► roles that sparked something and we all [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► wanted to tell stories with them so I i [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► just read the volume one of these are [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► the voyages which I know Scott is red [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► but i have not read i do you buy here [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► Scott has it and you should read it and [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► because it's good i've bought it now [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► mark Cushman's book that is again I [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► hesitated to read these books because I [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► thought that they would be you know sort [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► of fannish like behind the scenes of [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► crazy things that happened on Star Trek [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► and they're not these are I think these [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► are gonna end up being the source [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► material like these are well-researched [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► history with is it history books about [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► star trek with lots of great tidbits but [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► it really is not it is unflinching about [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► the details and it is absolutely true [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► that Spock was a character that started [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► as a sketch by Gene Roddenberry this [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► half Martian Redskin character that [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► ended up being for various reasons [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► including just the way that color played [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► on black and white TVs ended up having [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► the complexion that he had and having [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► that in a collaboration between [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► Roddenberry and Leonard Nimoy and [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► Leonard Nimoy and the various directors [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► like that the spotting neck pinch came [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► and I believable the Vulcan hand salute [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► came from expediency while shooting [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► scenes they were at endlessly behind and [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► stand leonard nimoy said I don't need to [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► punch this guy don't think pot Spock [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► would punch him he would just like to a [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► little alien thing and they invented the [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► famous Spock neck pinch from that and [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► then Dorothy Fontana who is a fantastic [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► star of these books because you you [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► discovered what what the fortitude she [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► must have had to go from being thought [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► of as gene roddenberry secretary to [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► essentially being the best writer on the [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► series and the responsible for so much [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► of it you know she she invented lots of [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► Vulcan stuff too so this character built [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► over time but what's also fascinating [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► that's a very spot word fascinating is [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► that it was clear from the very [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► beginning [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► and you know there's a lot of stories [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► about some NBC executives and get rid of [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► the guy with the years but the executive [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► who worked with Desilu on the first [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► season of of of star trek from the start [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► was saying oh you got it you got to give [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► me more spot to use a line from a doctor [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► who episode give me more spot because it [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► was just clear that this character was [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► different and interesting and I think [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► David that dynamic of the eventually the [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► trio because they they went through [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► several episodes before they they [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► brought in deforest kelley that that was [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► the thing that made this character made [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► the show work was like Spock Spock added [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► something to a traditional action hero [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► and maybe his traditional sort of [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► confidant that was not something we had [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► seen before and it really was the magic [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► that made that thing work [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► oh yeah and and very few things have [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► been able to duplicate that even just [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► the the template of it you know I i was [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► thinking about the man from uncle [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► earlier today and thinking about you [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► know okay here again is here your [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► conflict between the American spy in the [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► Russian spy and they they butt heads [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► sometimes but they're they're a team and [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► they work together and and they're [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► probably gonna draw that out more in the [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► new movie based on the trailer but it's [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► still not quite the same you you never [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► saw Napoleon solo and Illya Kuryakin [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► argue about tactics and argue about [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► morality the way you saw Kirk and Spock [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► you didn't see that in in light action [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► shows in the sixties and i remember when [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► i when i started paying attention meet [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► again I always you know i'm just like [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► you i had the the there's never been a [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► time where I went [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► hey I don't know this episode right [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► except with the animated show maybe and [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► even then it's more that I've forgotten [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► them instead of seeing them over and [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► over again every year but i remember [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► when i started paying attention to [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► things like credits and writing credits [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► and cast credits and and being very [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► confused that the first season DeForest [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► Kelley isn't in the opening credits [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► right it's just shatter Nimoy and that [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► just seemed wrong [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► so yeah they're the it's amazing how [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► that came together a triumvirate I mean [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► you could argue i mean some of some of [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► this is is that time for it was was the [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► magic the magic sauce the secret sauce [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► and and even in DJ movies you can see [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► with different actors like boy that is a [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► powerful set of characters and having [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► them the way they complement and [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► critique one another is really powerful [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► great regardless of who's playing them [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► but you know that doesn't give enough [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► credit to the fact that Spock as we have [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► as we see him is a product of leonard [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► nimoy and Dorothy Fontana and Gene [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► Roddenberry and gene kuhn and a bunch of [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► other people who made the original Star [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► Trek um I wanted to talk a little bit [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► about how the other reasons why we why [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► why do we find Spock so iconic because [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► this is one of those things that this is [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► a show that's been that Air 249 almost [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► coming up 50 49 years ago and I'm to [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► this day I in some ways even with all [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► the series of the past in the meantime [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► of startrack mr. Spock there's just [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► something about mr. Spock that that Star [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► Trek is mr. Spock in some ways like if [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► you had to boil it down to one thing it [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► would be a picture mr. Spock probably [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► from a mock time giving the Vulcan hand [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► gesture that would kind of be the [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► boiling down of star trek to one thing [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► why is that Scott you know why why why [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► does it come back to Spock [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► well i think a lot of credit goes to let [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► Nimoy and his performance but also if [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► you think about it Spock has a lot of [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► catch phrases and things that are easy [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► to replicate right you can do a little [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► the hand sign you can say live long and [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► prosper a pass and you have a [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► fascinating interests of the eyebrow [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► lift right so there's a lot of ideas and [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► I learned to do that because i wanted to [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► do that like mr. spot [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► see there you know I think that's part [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► of me that's not the only reason I think [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► that's part of what makes the character [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► so attractive if you want to pretend try [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► to pretend that you are someone on the [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► enterprise [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► I guess you could like punch someone and [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► pretend you're camping with the OEM [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► together [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► and hit him in the back do that back [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► exactly where you live long and prosper [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► right reasons Scottish accent but that's [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► hard it is hard so yeah I mean yeah I [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► think I think that's true he is I think [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► that's why when I say why is spike Spock [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► so iconic that is one of the reasons [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► right is that he has things he says and [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► that nobody else says he's got the ears [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► and he's got the raised eyebrow and all [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► of these things that that were this [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► collaboration from all those people [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► it is also interesting and Scott since [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► you take these voyages every week with [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► random track every star trek show I feel [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► like has a spot like like that was the [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► one thing that that was very clear is [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► say what you will about the feature the [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► the future star trek series every single [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► one of them has at least one spot figure [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► you can't have a star trek without an [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► outsider who is intrigued by the human [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► condition [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► you can't write because that lets the [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► writers you know kind of telegraph [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► things about the human condition and [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► makes an easy hook for them to you know [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► have a character react to the wacky [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► things these humans are doing what I my [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► theory about why Spock indoors where I [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► mean data and odo and warfare wonderful [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► and I love them too but you know when to [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► call when Tuvok and seven behind all the [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► other spot care is further out but LOL [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► the other Vulcans are just doing their [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► just rights back [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► yeah that's right that's right but it [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► but yeah it's sort of like we don't have [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► androids we don't have Klingons we don't [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► have shapeshifters but except for the [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► ears spot could pass for human right [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► right we know people like Spock [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► yeah he's really know people like data [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► and at o2 but they look to alien to us [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► but spock he just puts on a stocking cap [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► and and if anyone notices they go oh it [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► was a race parent or a headband made [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► from ripping off part of a robe in Star [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► Trek for which is also hard to do [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► thank you to our friends at mail route [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► for sponsoring the incomparable this [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► week and i've been using mail route for [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► awhile marrow is a service that filters [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► spam and viruses and bounced emails out [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► of your inbox before it even gets to [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► your inbox [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► the way mail route works it works in the [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► cloud it takes in all the mail that's [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► headed your way [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► uses its intelligent processing to [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► filter out the bad stuff and that never [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► gets to you that it passes everything [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► else on to your mail server and that's [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► what you see it works great i get a [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► little email every day that shows me [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► what it's filtered out that's optional [TS]

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00:19:37 ◼   ► or not at all [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► 1-click delivers anything that was [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► filtered out by mistake but that almost [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► never happens it's incredibly rare maybe [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► once a month I see something in there [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► that might be real [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► generally it's a just an opportunity for [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► me to laugh at the crazy spam messages [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► that I'm no longer seeing just by the [TS]

00:19:56 ◼   ► subject line anyway mail route filters [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► your mail you never see the junk anymore [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► works great i've been using for more [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► than a year now it's easy to set up its [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► reliable it is trusted by the largest [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► universities and corporations email [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► administrators and IT professionals will [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► love the tools that mail route provides [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► including an API for easy account [TS]

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00:20:18 ◼   ► everything you'd want from the people [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► who handle your mail so start a [TS]

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00:20:26 ◼   ► just sign up you change your MX records [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► on your server so that mail is delivered [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► to mail route first and then passed on [TS]

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00:20:34 ◼   ► and hardware are completely protected [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► you don't have to install anything [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► anywhere [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► it's simple and effective and there's no [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► reason not to try it so all listeners of [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► the incomparable can receive ten percent [TS]

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00:20:46 ◼   ► route by going to mail route dotnet / [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► incomparable now and thank you so much [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► to our friends at me around for [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► sponsoring and supporting being [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► comparable let's also not forget that [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► the show gave Spock the dignity of [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► private identity that data has spent [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► almost the entire series say i don't [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► want to be an android I want to be a [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► human not going to put myself in danger [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► and willing to destabilize myself [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► because I must must must be more human [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► as opposed to just being Who I am and [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► there's just something so powerful and [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► so [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► I want to say mesmerizing but once it [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► that so magnetic about the person who is [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► clearly very confident who they are very [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► pleased with who they are willing to is [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► willing to participate in a world that [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► don't belong in but i don't have to be [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► anything other than a volcom I'll of [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► data but data story is one of somebody [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► who wants to assimilate yes not in the [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► board way i should say we're talking [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► about Star Trek but but Spock Spock [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► doesn't want to do that right Spock and [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► I know that he's been a a source of of [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► of pride and and somebody that people [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► have looked to as a as a as an important [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► figure because he's an outsider but also [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► spoke is proud of who he is and although [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► it's problematic and he has this great [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► tension between his humanity and his [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► Vulcan pneus Spock is not trying to be [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► human i mean sometimes trying to be [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► Vulcan which is interesting from the [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► perspective of of us humans that he's [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► trying to reject the parts of him who r [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► us but that's a very different [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► combination of traits than something [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► like data who really desperately is so [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► eager to please to be I'm gonna good Joe [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► Piscopo to teach me how to tell jokes [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► and Spock you know spot does we want to [TS]

00:22:35 ◼   ► see and be human and he does not want to [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► do it and I I think that's part of the [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► magic of it right there there's that [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► tension that we want to see him break we [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► we love that moment in this side of [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► paradise where he's laughing he's [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► laughing that's not spot yeah but it is [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► Spock right [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► the other thing is almost all of them [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► except for Spock they're all justifying [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► their existence we're trying to figure [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► out who they are right [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► oh doesn't know where he comes from at [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► the bit at the beginning of deep space [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► nine right data has to prove that he's [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► worth that that he's not just a robot is [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► a court case and back and in the course [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► of sites and president of you know seven [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► of nine has to reclaim her humanity and [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► and discover who she was and recover [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► those memories where spot knows who he [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► is and that's just who he is and you [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► have to deal with it but he still has [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► that struggle of [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► if his human half and his woman that [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► right and yeah like I was saying he's [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► gonna projected his human half and he's [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► much like Worf right Worf raised by [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► humans and then he his reaction is I'm [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► going to be super Klingon of and [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► embossed germs and yea right assist yeah [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► that started with Spock being you know [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► I'm half human but i'm going to be a [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► super volcano going to be the most [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► Vulcan Vulcan that you can Vulcan [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► because i'm gonna show these people i [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► was reading am Star Trek fan club scan [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► that somebody put it put post on Twitter [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► day that was written by a girl who is a [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► red eye black parent a white parent and [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► was saying you know I feel like I [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► understand [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► Spock's the xbox situation and on one [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► level again this is the one of the great [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► appeals of Spock is that he is an [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► outsider and if you feel outside of [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► society in anyway whether it's because [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► you're a geek kind of person or whether [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► because it's something much more [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► complicated and difficult than that in [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► you know late sixties America especially [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► but you know forever [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► this is this is a character who can [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► appeal to you but what really struck me [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► about is the way he described and this [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► is just Leonard Nimoy sort of with his [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► own internal backstory about what [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► motivates Spock saying that when Spock [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► was a child you know growing up on [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► Vulcan hehe dealt with those same issues [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► and I thought that was fascinating [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► because those those scenes are in JJ [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► Abrams Star Trek we see young spock [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► being really brutally mistreated by [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► other Vulcans because he's not a real [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► Vulcan and that has led me to a greater [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► appreciation of that character actually [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► but I was shocked to find that it's all [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► there in Leonard Nimoy's assumptions [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► about who Spock is in the sixties that [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► he was horribly treated by the other [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► Vulcans when he was a kid and then it's [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► and then to see it writ large in the JJ [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► movie really made me appreciate that I [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► think that JJ Abrams Star Trek goes [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► along it it i mean that's a movie about [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► Spock that isn't the smoke is that you [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► could argue that Zachary Quinto Spock in [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► that structure movie is the main [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► character and if you throw in Leonard [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► Nimoy on top of it it's really a movie [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► about Spock and how [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► you know finding Kirk helps set him on [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► the right course and but it does a lot [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► for Spock character which i think is [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► unexpected [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► I didn't expect well and and some of [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► that is in the yesteryear Animated [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► episode by DC from santa ana which you [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► know is this box childhood and again [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► mockery and wanting to run away and [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► which is a wonderful I mean there are [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► some good episodes of the animated show [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► that's the only 1i would put up with the [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► rest and I think everybody with would [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► say that that's like will count [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► Scott you can you can put that one in [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► your spreadsheet friend req just out i [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► will do it now [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► no I don't stick to the rolling plains [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► yeah slippery sits good slippery's um [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► let's see what else did I want to talk [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► about and we should talk about what we [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► talked about the the original series a [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► lot i'd like to talk a little bit about [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► the the movies it's a obviously Clemens [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► had a fraught relationship I think he [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► came to terms with it after a long time [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► but of course obviously in the seventies [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► he wrote I'm not Spock he tried to [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► distance himself from the part my [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► understanding is that he was he refused [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► to be in the phase two series they were [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► going to do in the seventies and the guy [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► who the Vulcan who dies in the horrible [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► transporter accident Star Trek the [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► motion picture is essentially the [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► character that would have been the spock [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► replacement if that had been a series [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► but since it was a movie and Leonard [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► Nimoy agreed to be in it then they wrote [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► Spock back into it but you know and then [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► he told him to kill him and star trek to [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► which is funny because then he obviously [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► thought better of it after surgery to [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► was so good but it does lead to some of [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► the most amazing i mean if we didn't [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► appreciate Spock from the original [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► series i think we would appreciate Spock [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► from Star Trek to he is the captain of [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► the enterprise he gives up his seat he [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► makes the supreme sacrifice at the end [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► the movie in order to save the crew and [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► in doing so yeah he's serving Captain [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► Kirk's character arc of being sort of [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► accepting of his own mortality but it at [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► that that movie i mean i remember [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► sobbing in the movie uncontrollably in [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► the movie theater when I saw Star Trek [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► I've never done that in any movie ever [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► other than now [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► 1m so that lends to the legend I think [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► too that the search for 24 all the fact [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► that supposed to be about Kirk accepting [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► mortality it is it is also you know it [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► is Spock and Spock giving into it [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► well they're so intertwined yeah you [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► know everything that I i saw a couple [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► people mentioned this earlier and yeah [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► arguably i would say yeah it that scene [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► that that for you know just the last 15 [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► minutes of that is maybe the best acting [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► certainly Shatner but maybe even in way [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► ever did I mean it's just beautiful and [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► a big part of that is the richness and [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► depth of of the history of the [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► characters right I I had I would have to [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► but I i enjoyed that seen what I like [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► more though and in terms of good the [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► best spot quick acted scenes I've [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► actually has kept going to the Abrams [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► reboot where you have Spock there's [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► nothing really dramatic about it seems [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► like if you're playing a death scene you [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► know that you got a whole lot of protein [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► to work with you know that you can [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► really it's a fat pitch right down the [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► middle it's going over the outside the [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► stadium all if you want to swing it that [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► way [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► this is scenes though in the reboot I [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► just love the scene of an elderly [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► elderly elderly Spock giving advice to [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► himself as a young person's in innocence [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► and saying that really the most of the [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► most valuable things that I had my [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► entire life was my friendship with this [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► man called Kirk and I would like for you [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► to pursue to see if you can have a [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► friendship that will be as valuable to [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► you as mine was to me because at this [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► point learning way is elderly and he is [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► probably in a position where he is [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► spending more time looking backwards [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► then looking forward and maybe in a I [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► don't know if he was channeling anything [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► of himself in that role but it was so [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► authentic that if you could give [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► yourself a piece of advice but at age 23 [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► 24 25 [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► what would you pick and i think most [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► people would say that you're going to [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► meet a woman in three or four years and [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► her name is Debbie and she's going to [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► change your entire life and whenever [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► you're going through whatever hardship [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► that you're going to face you realize [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► that you don't have a great life because [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► of [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► this person then it was such a simple [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► delivery of simple lines and that's what [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► a great actor don't know how he couldn't [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► channel himself he you know the scene [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► where in the snow cave where he meets [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► Chris Pine leonard nimoy from the [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► perspective of what 45 years after he [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► was in Star Trek or after he started in [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► Star Trek and 40 years after he finished [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► startrack Islam is talking to a 28 year [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► old actor who is playing james t kirk [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► how can you [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► I mean how can you not channel the idea [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► that I mean he was old Spock right he's [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► like literally hi i am I come from your [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► future and let me tell you being young [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► captain kirk and dealing with young mr. [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► Spock is pretty great but it is it is i [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► said this earlier it is one of the [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► really surprising things in that movie [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► that makes me like that first JJ Abrams [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► movie so much is that it is it is mr. [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► Spock is not a is not a gimmick old mr. [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► Spock is not a gimmick in the movie he [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► is the thing that causes the movie to [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► exist and they have the split timelines [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► and all that but it's not he's not just [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► in it as a it so easily be added as a [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► plot device and a wing and he's not he [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► is set like you said Andy he's setting [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► those characters on a course and it is [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► yes it is Leonard Nimoy blessing this [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► new generation of Star Trek actors but [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► it is also old mr. Spock saying trust me [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► you guys are going to go places and it [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► is you know and then he you know invents [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► the crazy transporter whatever and [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► teaches got to do that meets the plot [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► moving along to do but it is it is way [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► more in fact somebody on Twitter today [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► said I I'm hoping that they will that [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► they can service the classic Star Wars [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► actors as well as they treated Spock [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► when they bring them back for episode 7 [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► because it's you know JJ Abrams it's the [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► same thing you're taking these iconic [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► actors and bringing them into a place [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► where they're not acting with their own [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► young selves presumably don't think [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► there's a time-travel paradox and Star [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► Wars Episode 7 but is still [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► the idea that you treat those actors and [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► their iconic parts with with respect and [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► they're not just in there to wave at you [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► and then move out of the way but they're [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► there to do something important and that [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► that was I think the greatest gift that [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► we got with that JJ Abrams Star Trek [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► movie was that spot was not window [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► dressing he was really important and [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► they gave Leonard Nimoy something [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► powerful to do and he did it [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► yeah I can into darkness he's a plot [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► device [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► yeah although it is I it is it's on the [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► spot it is very funny it's literally [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► like most young mr. Spock is speaking to [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► the end he's like can you get the old [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► spot on the radio because i want to i [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► need to ask mr. 42 and but but it's just [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► yeah it's a that those are great i agree [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► with you Andy [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► those are great Spock moment i love the [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► pain that when he watches Vulcan get [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► destroyed [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► you know from his perspective like this [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► shouldn't be happening I can't believe [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► this is happening and that's the reason [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► your old destroys Vulcan in that movie [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► is because he wants to make mr. Spock [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► watch basically on and he's the ne ne he [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► gets to express his emotions to chris [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► pine and say I am emotionally [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► compromised i just saw my planet die and [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► and you know that then registers with [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► Zachary Quinto but but Leonard Nimoy [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► already feels it that Zachary Quinto has [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► to have it pulled to the surface by [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► chris pine but learning way as Spock he [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► it's all there on the surface and that's [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► a really powerful scene that that that [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► that is some of the best Spock I thought [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► I always thought unification in the next [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► generation was essentially gonna be the [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► last we ever solve linear Moyes Spock I [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► think that's the last thing he'd shot he [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► shot that after Star Trek six and i was [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► very happy that but that there was [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► something more cuz unification not that [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► good [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► can we say that the nude it's not [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► because it's no it's not that good it's [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► got one of these days you're gonna have [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► to do like a two-hour episode of random [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► track about unification know my name [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► doesn't come up with that one [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► I'll pencil you in but by the Romulans [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► have great shoulder pads we know that [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► either other famous Spock seems that our [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► favorites boxes you want to talk about [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► great moments in mr. spa [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► well if we're sticking with the movies i [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► have a big soft spots for star trek for [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► and having you know Spock a mind-meld [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► with whale had you know not [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► understanding uh he's like a happy she's [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► very confused because he just got real [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► he just got resurrected so he's a little [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► bit goofy it started waters off into the [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► bushes yeah it's his way to the way will [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► double the mass on you and all the rest [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► yes yes no no yes metaphor yes no yes i [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► like italian and so do you [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► yes yes i love the end of a mark time [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► where he realizes that Korea still alive [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► I mean all of a mark x beautiful but [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► just that moment of GM smile okay so I'm [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► gonna I'm gonna want it back so a mock [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► time I want maybe my favorite scene in [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► all the original series is the scene [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► right before that which is where and [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► this is everyone looking at me a starter [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► everybody post that picture i have it on [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► a magnet on my refrigerator of him with [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► the with the Vulcan hand gesture with [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► the kind of like spinal tap Stonehenge a [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► styrofoam rock behind them from the [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► Cyclorama set that they that they were [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► on that's that's the battlefield of [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► mounts too late you [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► yeah sure it is although it yeah watch [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► the remastered versions they do these [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► crazy like CGI Vulcan landscape is not [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► its creator with little cgi people it's [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► amazing but anyway that scene is so [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► tragic and yeah it's reverse these terms [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► at kirks not dead but everybody doesn't [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► know everybody who watches that it's [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► like a look at mr. Spock getting a [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► little live long and prosper he this is [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► the wherewhere to power says live long [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► and prosper and he says I have killed my [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► captain and my friend I shall do neither [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► it is like ripping his heart out it is [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► the it is the tragic low point of mr. [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► Spock he is his life is over but he's [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► giving the hand gesture and it's such a [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► powerful scene immediately followed by [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► him doing the big grin while McCoy and [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► Chapel it's like that comedy routine [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► were like but wait what wait what wait [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► he's like no doctor I must resign [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► immediately but wait spike no I must do [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► it right now and william shatner comes [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► up behind him because he was gonna do [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► he's a super powerful Vulcan he could [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► chop you in half if you take me by [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► surprise we are we gonna give you crap [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► they're not gonna hear about it i love i [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► love i love both those scenes those are [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► two of the best that an emotional [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► reaction Spock I'm just simply going to [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► start with is not lost a qualified [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► officer you're capable officer I was [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► thinking I i think there's not one month [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► out of my life ever since the first time [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► I saw that as a kid I have not just [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► spontaneously thought of that exchange I [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► i can even tell you the last time it [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► happened was four or five nights ago and [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► i was in the parking lot of a grocery [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► store about to like drive back home and [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► for some reason my thought process we're [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► going here there and everywhere and just [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► I just think of that line readings thing [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► i have killed by captain friend [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► clearly I show dunno yeah whoo out why a [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► TJ I can see the quiver in his voice i [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► can see that he is just numb with grief [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► and remorse and shocked at what he's [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► done and it's all done on this really [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► terrible deci Lucette that just it's [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► it's it's like it's like packaging [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► material and try to be should be heard [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► like three other than that it's like Oh [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► what I'm going to achieve with this this [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► was that I get out I never I never [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► became a really like involved fan of [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► Star Trek but that was this not just [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► this episode not just the scene but that [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► was the line that said forever more [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► this is a worthy worthy show and at some [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► point I'm going to enjoy watching us [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► yeah another another one of those scenes [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► that I love that again is a huge seen a [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► huge moment is when when Edith Keeler [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► dies [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► oh right because he's the one who's like [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► wait and then but Curtis like no aah [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► and maybe that's not what Harlan Ellison [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► wanted but it worked right where they [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► want you have to get what the character [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► better captain kirk has to hold McCoy [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► back there right even though spot can [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► totally do it and that would be fine too [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► because it needs to be that moment where [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► where Kirk makes the it will that moment [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► of I could've saved her and he just says [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► he knows doctor he knows if I bet and [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► and just the whole you know once one [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► spot realizes what's going on with [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► the gym through that whole episode just [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► again that that's a huge moment in their [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► relationship right well there to the [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► stranded in the past together and [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► they're they're like having to get [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► dogged jobs and Spock Spock keeps a [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► captain kirk goes to work Spock stays [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► back at home when kevin has ham radio [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► when Captain Kirk it's homey nags [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► Captain Kirk about how he does not have [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► enough money to get a sufficient [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► quantity of platinum and is using stone [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► stone knives and bearskins to try and [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► get the tricorder to work just hilarious [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► that says that you're funny Spock funny [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► Spock is also also really good that the [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► driest go bone dry right where where [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► he's needles dr. McCoy because we all [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► remember dr. McCoy gas pocket [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► green-blooded off right roar but [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► green-blooded hope God but then you know [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► then Spock turns and just raises an [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► eyebrow like whoa okay I just so so [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► powerful think about the the lengths he [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► went two for Christopher Pike you know [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► it's not easy [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► Kirk is not the only captain his head [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► right tense relationship with her [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► it's just that's the one we got to see [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► right now in the menagerie in the [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► menagerie we see Spock steal the [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► enterprise and basically he's the [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► villain mad for a long time of YS bak [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► doing mr. and that he's doing it for for [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► uh for loyalty to his former captain [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► which I think Kirk's like all right well [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► I get that you know it's good to be [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► loyal to your captain I approve [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► I like to i'd like to read the [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► newsletter on that that's a higher and [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► of course we have the mirror universe [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► actually evil spot here it's is he [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► actually for Scott though [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► well no but he probably the best [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► character the less the least evil cat in [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► the mirror mariano he's reasonable right [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► get Kurt gives him the pitch like you [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► could overthrow this thing you can take [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► this whole place over I will consider it [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► he says but the the spot with the beard [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► to also defining the classic your evil [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► duplicate as a beard [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► how many exceptional okay yeah yeah yeah [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► I know Spock is the that the one of the [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► nice things about that the circle right [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► one of the nice things about that [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► episode right is that everybody else is [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► just kind of monstrous and then you like [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► what what's gonna happen to Spock [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► and the answer is actually its spark [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► righties because a goatee but still spot [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► yeah well social pressure made him grow [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► the goatee [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► it's true so Leonard Nimoy obviously [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► before before he was in Star Trek he was [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► not only was in the twilight zone [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► episode a bunch of other TV he was doing [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► somewhat experimental theater in LA and [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► and fairly well regarded at that and [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► then after being mr. Spock you know he [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► was a guest star in an episode of TJ [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► hooker he was the narrator of of in [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► search of colombo l columbus as soon as [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► starter again did he went down the hall [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► to mission is lose mission to Mission [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► Possible right where again his sidekick [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► to a guy named jim yeah that's that's [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► weird [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► that's really weird but I so what I [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► wanted to get at is a little bit we [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► could talk a little bit about the the [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► challenges of an actor in an indelible [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► role I i talked about this a little bit [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► earlier on a TV talk machine with Tim [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► Goodman but I wanted to bring it up here [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► too which is I think he he made his [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► peace with it and and the greatest thing [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► you could do is an actor on one level is [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► to have this role of a lifetime right [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► but as a working actor who needs to [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► support oneself having a role of a [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► lifetime when you're 30 is 425 is is I'm [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► pretty difficult if you've got the rest [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► of your career to live it down even if [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► it was the role of a lifetime and I [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► think it's um I think it says a lot [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► about Leonard Nimoy as person that in [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► the end I feel like he really accepted [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► the good of of having of having that [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► Parton and of having mr. Spock in his [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► life but it definitely seems to like a [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► rough ride i mean in addition to I am [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► NOT Spock I I'm use that what is it [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► James Blish wrote the novel spot must [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► die [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► yeah there's like was not three feet [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► away a lot of aggression and mr. Spock [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► in New yeah for people in the seventies [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► and then they kill them all and it's you [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► know it's funny cuz [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► you you again you have that sort of [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► dissolute casting thing of Mark Lando [TS]

00:43:13 ◼   ► and Leonard Nimoy mark land on Leonard [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► Nimoy and martin landau was almost Spock [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► and then when martin landau left Mission [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► Impossible suddenly it's Leonard Nimoy [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► playing the the guy who puts on the [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► masks and he's different in every [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► episode and he doesn't actually have a [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► character that's part of why he left the [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► shows that there was no character for [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► him he was always someone else but you [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► know part of it was he wanted to show [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► the versatility and what's what's always [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► been interesting to me is that martin [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► landau really does kind of sink into all [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► these things that he does in the first [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► three years of mission impossible and [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► every time you see Leonard Nimoy in [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► costume [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► he's good but he's still clearly leonard [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► nimoy which is really kind of weird and [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► again you know maybe it's that spot is [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► coming out I don't know I've seen him in [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► lots of other things since then [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► obviously he did a one-man show about [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► Vincent van Gogh where he played his [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► brother Theo and he he actually wrote [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► the play and it's fantastic it's a [TS]

00:44:10 ◼   ► lovely night of theater and there's a [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► recording of it that you can order at [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► amazon i think and and you know he's not [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► at all spot in that he's very clearly [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► Theo van Gogh so you know hehe could do [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► it suicide maybe he wasn't ready [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► the two years after Star Trek maybe he [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► was still wet behind the ears so to [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► speak but as the seventies and eighties [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► went on he he he was able to do more [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► things and and you know he might not [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► have been able to do the van Gogh thing [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► if it hadn't been for the cushion of [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► having star trek to support him and to [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► have the the money from Star Trek and [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► have the fans from Star Trek command C [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► because like a here's here's our guy and [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► he's doing something else and this is [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► really good show to it is this strange [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► it's a fascinating thing we can the cult [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► being being such a grabbing a role like [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► this and then also being stuck with a [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► role like this it's just it is an [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► amazing combination of things that you [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► know he ended up writing I am Spock and [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► embracing it but he had so much else any [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► day any turned it turned his artistica [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► energy toward photography and other [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► things like that I i think you know it [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► is interesting that he probably he was [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► never mr. Spock he probably would have [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► had a much [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► more varied career as an actor but yeah [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► you know instead he got to be mr. Spock [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► and you know bottom a house in Bel Air [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► and I i think yeah you know he i think [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► you did ok but i really enjoyed that JJ [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► Abrams and company since they knew him [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► from working on Star Trek the the 2009 [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► version put them in fringe as one of his [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► very different as one of his put ya is a [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► somewhat evil somewhat misunderstood may [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► be mad scientist sort of thing but uh I [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► thought that was actually I thought he [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► did a really great job in fringe and I [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► loved the fact that it was a character [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► that you haven't you you've only heard [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► about four years and then you know he [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► emerges and it's not anymore and you're [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► like what [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► and it's a it's a really wonderful [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► moment and apple he had he had already [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► basically quote-unquote retired from [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► acting and and then here he is on fringe [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► and and it was a lot of fun to see him [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► do something else and it was one of [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► those moments look are you know he could [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► have been in lots of other things before [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► that but there was always sort of you [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► know was mr. Spock away [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► I don't know and and it was an evil [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► mirror universe [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► yes well then come on with usually [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► Israel in Colombia was very very much [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► mr. Spock where the entire the entire [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► episode he is he also uses he doesn't [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► quite use the voice but he's always the [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► person who's speaking through tented [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► fingers on the other side of the table [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► he is the murderer but he doesn't let [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► his emotions get to him as where faculty [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► and colombo is absolutely baffled until [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► the very very end recalls wait a minute [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► that one time when the doctor freaked [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► out and assaulted me [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► he must have been doing that to cover up [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► something and that's when he actually [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► mailed them so it's a very spot like [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► roll when he's always explaining very [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► rationally don't you understand colombo [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► this is what must have happened right [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► he's he's always trying to do that that [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► that actually is one of my favorite [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► colombo moments where the as they're [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► carrying away the murder weapon which is [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► a tire iron i think in columbus hang on [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► any kind of looks at it for a second [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► he takes a hard-boiled egg out of his [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► pocket and cracks against the thing is [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► ok yeah keep going but that but that was [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► that that was it was a lot so many [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► really great moments from that's from [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► that episode one of them is one of the [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► most intense moments between Colombo and [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► any other actor in the entire series [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► yeah because he's trees is the way the [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► colombo works on suspects is working on [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► their emotions and trying to like [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► rattling a little bit he finally gets [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► this guy who is absolutely impossible to [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► rattle because he's just being stored [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► throughout the entire thing and then you [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► add this other thing where it's not just [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► this one murder that he's investigating [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► he has discovered that Leonard Nimoy's [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► character has intentionally botched a [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► surgery that happened a week ago so that [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► this guy is going to die in a few days [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► and we'll look like it was just like a [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► heart attack is now he has to make sure [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► that this doctor is going to bring that [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► patient back in and fix it so after he [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► tries every single trick he can possibly [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► think of to like get this guy so scared [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► for you have bad but I better fix this [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► and prevent find an excuse [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► columbus finally like this patient just [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► nods and then pick up a wider picture [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► and then slams it on the desk in front [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► of Nimoy and says drops the entire like [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► oh I'm just a dumb rumpled detective [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► since and look if in fact that guy dies [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► there's gonna have to be an autopsy [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► you know that's gonna happen and I'm [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► gonna be there watching you every step [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► of the way doctor and then he scheduled [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► surgery again being stoic and being very [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► very spot like it was very few people i [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► think would really have actors could [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► have stood up to that kind of [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► performance and still no flinch i'm [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► gonna i'm just going to simply logically [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► realize that ok he is indeed right-field [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► there's no if if this guy dies their [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► effects and I have to do this right now [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► like oh goodness he's such an anchor and [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► every scene that he's and I can't think [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► of anything post star trek ever saw him [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► and where he was just not the guy you [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► wanted to pay attention to even when he [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► was just sitting quietly of a bind [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► tented fingers and observing that one [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► and that TJ hooker episode I mean not a [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► good show a fat white ball shape moment [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► for variable this is this a charity our [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► hearing a comfortable [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► Adrian's admit that some of the best [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► butt's getting across the hood of a car [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► I've seen any 80 series i'll stand by [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► the of the two series that had a lock [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► layer was in simultaneously on ABC in [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► the eighties that was one of them [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► that was one of them it is the series [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► that gave us the phrase your life isn't [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► worth Bologna on a stick so you know you [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► ever had to let the music not that good [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► once i guess i have to act out the [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► correct in that environment just like [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► bigger the star from scenery is Neelu [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► that guy should get a special lemme but [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► but the episode and i remember watching [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► it when it aired where you Leonard Nimoy [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► is guesting on TJ Hooker and and he gets [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► he gets to be the emotional one he gets [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► to be this father who's who wants [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► vengeance for whatever happened to his [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► daughter and he actually calls often and [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► dex hooker at one point which is great [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► but again you know you can't take your [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► eyes off him [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► that's who you want to see the story [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► about you don't care about TJ hooker who [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► then goes running along the wall and [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► jumps on the school bus as you do [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► he was also the voice of Galvatron and [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► the Transformers believe yes [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► yeah which I enjoyed immensely as a kid [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► yeah Orson Welles was in the [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► Transformers movies that was his legs [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► and he was on the cross [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► yeah the Giants of of acting in [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► transformers cartoon that so that's a [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► punchline actually that's the punchline [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► from searching for isn't it [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► the odd the Giants the collective killed [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► Robin role in Jax's and yeah [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► oh so i have a i just wanted to mention [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► nobody made pseudo-scientific claptrap [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► sound more realistic in the seventies [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► than one anymore as the narrator of in [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► search of oh I learned so much I have [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► freewill about the Easter Island statues [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► and the chupacabra I don't know whether [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► it's your comp represent probably then [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► but it made it but mr. Spock was [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► explaining to me and therefore it was [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► totally true it had to be science right [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► because mr. spot was talking about UFOs [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► and and the theory of Atlantis and you [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► know ESP well and and it's funny there [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► if you look at the the list of all the [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► episodes for in surgery you know again [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► see the Loch Ness monster Bigfoot all [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► the things that were hip in the [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► seventies right and there's one episode [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► in search of Vincent van Gogh and [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► apparently he agreed to do the series as [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► long as he could do one episode where he [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► went overseas needed and that's where [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► did all the research for the vincent van [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► gogh play was doing the episode 4 in [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► search of and it's it's bizarre because [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► it's not at all I can you know there's [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► nothing weird Supernatural about Vincent [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► but ok whatever but you know it worked [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► it paid the bills but and and I i [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► remember when i first discovered [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► jonathan coulton and you know I'm and [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► I'm listening to all the songs going to [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► call me and i love this guy and getting [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► to under the pines and the first time [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► through i guess was the first verse I'm [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► going what the hell is this song about [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► and then I realized it's a song from the [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► point of view of leonard nimoy to [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► Bigfoot and it that just blew my mind [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► that not only the concept that anyone [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► would think of writing a song from [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► Leonard Nimoy Bigfoot well who wouldn't [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► it's obvious [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► ok alright so I i used to listen to the [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► golden throats album better if he turns [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► out not only not only loosen sky with [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► diamonds from william shatner but if i [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► had a hammer and too soon by hand so I [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► any in that these are the voyages book [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► they make it clear that basically they [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► were merchandising anything in it [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► everything they could that first year [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► because they didn't know with this was [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► gonna last and made the end up some [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► record company said yeah we want to do a [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► star trek album ended up being like mr. [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► Spock's music from space for something [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► like that music from no man which I [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► ionno really a ballad of bilbo baggins [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► is haunting yeah i'lli'll unfortunately [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► yeah yeah I remember that from dr. [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► Demento mhm yeah ideological double [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► barrel carburetors great place but you [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► never can find a parking space [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► highly illogical and you have a memory [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► of this i know the damn warrant does of [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► the him introducing like the science [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► show at the planetarium or something in [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► Boston [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► yes yes hate whatever that is is entered [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► the the planetarium museum of science [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► right had this beaut this is this is [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► Boston and it was this huge huge tour of [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► the entire of the entire city including [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► the the I don't remember his dialogue as [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► much as I remember this is a before I [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► max they also had multiple projectors [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► behind the screen the planetarium it was [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► like just a huge like cinerama style [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► movie and I just really basically is a [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► high-speed film you drive all the way [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► through boston into the coast and then [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► you get 12 lobster boats all look place [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► people want to see a lot of stuff on the [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► lobster man shoves it shoves a lobster [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► right into the camera and it's surrounds [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► you with its claws but yeah I mean [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► little Moyes narration talk about the [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► history and here the district's it must [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► have been a little bit painful though [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► because there is not a West End of [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► Boston there used to be but then it was [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► torn down and like urban renewal in the [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► fifties and that is of course that was [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► his hometown that's where he was born [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► that's where he took his acting lessons [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► this is where he did his family raised [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► them and so he had to give this long [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► long tours had have the Boston Boston's [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► North End is filled the folk to the [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► south end with a visit then [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► well with the east end well that's the [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► harbor well we're okay and can talk [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► about the Western because that's where [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► the elevator the elevator highway is [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► well isn't that isn't thanks for [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► downloading it isn't this here's a test [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► of the new army theater sound system who [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► would put the ball in the bomb [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► shabam shove all who put the ram in the [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► rap a lab adding dog but yeah that's [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► with its there's actually there's [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► actually live discussion about where is [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► that film now because they the museum of [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► science has not released it there's some [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► bootleg film of people who just managed [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► to sneak some sort of video camera [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► because the tourists were there so [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► people did like shoot video of those [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► before you know the recording industry [TS]

00:56:08 ◼   ► was like militant it's yeah it's a big [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► piece of estonia the well i have a [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► hammer [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► and i have a bell and i'm going to ring [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► it all over this lab you gotta love that [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► actually that you gotta love the [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► shameless tie-ins and he was happy to [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► provide military or absolutely and read [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► into that what else what else do you [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► guys want to talk about on this on the [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► subject I i I've run out of my notes of [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► the various things that i wanted to talk [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► about that we can go anywhere you want [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► with us [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► there's a show that was a movie it was [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► like as a pilot from the early seventies [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► called baffled [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► I think where he is a racecar driver who [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► developed psychic powers and then the [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► series was going to be amusing a psychic [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► powers to help save people every week [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► and it sounds ridiculous but it's not [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► bad huh [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► but of course the reason it's not bad [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► anymore anymore at the wikipedia page [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► says that holds eight pilot for a [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► television series the story is part of [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► the occult detective sub-genre well i [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► called ya jack i guess what is that how [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► big is that sub-genre that's like a [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► parent apparently there were some but [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► yeah it's it's not bad i mean you know [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► early seventies a cold crime drama but [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► that's weird it's it's funny used to pop [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► up every now and then on on the the [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► independent stations when I was younger [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► and yeah if you come across it and it's [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► probably on youtube at this point i [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► guess we should mention that he also [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► directed three men and a baby in [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► addition to start your career and star [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► trek for which is the highest grossing [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► film of 1987 [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► yep and spend funny about love with Gene [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► Wilder also also it is contribution to [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► the simpsons hit anyone who started the [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► monorail yes [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► talk about a cherry on the top of an [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► already big cherry on top of a career [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► the cosmic dance goes as himself in [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► March vs. the monorail was fantastic [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► my work here is done you didn't do [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► anything did not haha [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► yeah I like that uh I like that he he [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► became friendly with Zachary Quinto [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► actually while they're working on Star [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► Trek I thought that was Zachary Quinto a [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► nice post today about his friend Leonard [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► that I you know that that's gonna be [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► weird when we talked about like acting [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► against chris pine but it's gonna be [TS]

00:58:42 ◼   ► weird right to be like yeah you're Spock [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► now I me I know when we talked about the [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► original or know the the JJ Abrams [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► reboot movies we talked about the idea [TS]

00:58:55 ◼   ► of trying to transform these characters [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► into not one actor one character but [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► into you know I think JJ Abrams said [TS]

00:59:02 ◼   ► think of it like Shakespeare that you [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► know you got these parts the classic [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► parts now you're doing them but if you [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► want anymore that had to be very strange [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► to see somebody else trying to be mr. [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► Spock for the first time and yet you [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► know it sounds like they actually bonded [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► over being mr. Spock and having to put [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► on those years we've seen that that car [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► and they did they did a wacky superbowl [TS]

00:59:24 ◼   ► commercial I couldn't tell you what card [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► was for now without his vote to your [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► mercedes-benz or volkswagen but you know [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► as a foreign car but it's delightful in [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► the long version of the ads is hilarious [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► the two of them are great together [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► that's a good one i'm gonna i'm looking [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► it up now audi yeah you know that was in [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► my head I was the animals audi but I [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► couldn't remember for sure it was a good [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► and because was effective and it was a [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► bad as it wasn't yeah [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► as are all the best and we must have [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► been weird too because you know Chris [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► Pine uh is kind of has the spirit of [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► Captain Kirk doesn't look like William [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► Shatner all that right exactly [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► Shatner all that right exactly [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► quinto is like a dead ringer for four [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► spot a young leonard nimoy young pretty [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► much yeah yeah that must have had an [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► extra added awareness weirdness I meant [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► well you know you can I have one of [TS]

01:00:14 ◼   ► those situations i read today said you [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► know 50 50 years in the business [TS]

01:00:18 ◼   ► basically 50 60 60 years in the business [TS]

01:00:21 ◼   ► I mean depends on where you can't but a [TS]

01:00:23 ◼   ► long long career embraced this character [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► was loved and you know it's an iconic [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► role you know I i just got I kind of [TS]

01:00:36 ◼   ► can't think of a better life led then [TS]

01:00:38 ◼   ► then Leonard Nimoy's hehe came to terms [TS]

01:00:41 ◼   ► with being part of this cult phenomenon [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► and this character that was iconic he [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► was able to do his art do his [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► photography got to still do some acting [TS]

01:00:55 ◼   ► when he wanted to I don't know III as as [TS]

01:00:59 ◼   ► lives go you gotta you gotta say he he [TS]

01:01:02 ◼   ► did right he didn't heat people like him [TS]

01:01:04 ◼   ► they liked working with him they you [TS]

01:01:07 ◼   ► know it's a he seems to have gotten a [TS]

01:01:10 ◼   ► gotten pretty high score on this thing [TS]

01:01:12 ◼   ► as far as i can tell i can't remember [TS]

01:01:14 ◼   ► who it was i saw tweeting earlier but [TS]

01:01:16 ◼   ► someone said that you know as an artist [TS]

01:01:19 ◼   ► as a person if you measure a person's [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► life by how much enjoy they brought to [TS]

01:01:25 ◼   ► how many people his is going to be hard [TS]

01:01:27 ◼   ► to top [TS]

01:01:28 ◼   ► yeah you know Jim Henson yeah right you [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► know but but it's there's a certain [TS]

01:01:34 ◼   ► rarefied group why the people who met [TS]

01:01:38 ◼   ► him you know you felt touched by him [TS]

01:01:41 ◼   ► yeah will Wheaton had a beautiful post [TS]

01:01:45 ◼   ► today where he said I didn't get to know [TS]

01:01:47 ◼   ► him he was on the show after i left i [TS]

01:01:49 ◼   ► never really got to know him as a person [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► but from everything I've heard everybody [TS]

01:01:53 ◼   ► that I know that I'm very close with [TS]

01:01:56 ◼   ► loved him and then he was he was as [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► wonderful as I always hoped he would be [TS]

01:02:02 ◼   ► when I was a little kid watching Star [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► Trek I loved his persona on Twitter the [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► last few years he was a great tweeter of [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► you know and every like everything was [TS]

01:02:11 ◼   ► like a one liner and it all ended [TS]

01:02:12 ◼   ► without [TS]

01:02:13 ◼   ► lopl AP live long and prosper but he was [TS]

01:02:16 ◼   ► he would he did a lot of things like [TS]

01:02:18 ◼   ► listen grandpa [TS]

01:02:19 ◼   ► ok let's move on to your grandfather I'm [TS]

01:02:22 ◼   ► your see if you don't have a grandparent [TS]

01:02:23 ◼   ► i'll be your grandparent [TS]

01:02:25 ◼   ► yeah 3 or 4 years ago was like anyone [TS]

01:02:27 ◼   ► here who wants to make me an honorary [TS]

01:02:28 ◼   ► grandpa go ahead down here I'm here you [TS]

01:02:32 ◼   ► know his final tweet is when is just a [TS]

01:02:34 ◼   ► beautiful thought that no he wins that [TS]

01:02:36 ◼   ► nobody's ever gonna send a better final [TS]

01:02:39 ◼   ► tweet ever [TS]

01:02:40 ◼   ► yeah I I showed it to the [TS]

01:02:42 ◼   ► thirteen-year-old today and and hit me [TS]

01:02:45 ◼   ► just sort of teared up four seconds like [TS]

01:02:47 ◼   ► watching breath of God again like and [TS]

01:02:50 ◼   ► and you know he you know he he wasn't [TS]

01:02:52 ◼   ► really reacting and then it should be [TS]

01:02:53 ◼   ► like oh wow yeah because you know he's [TS]