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322: Tastes Like College

 

00:00:00   the incomparable number 320 October 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/0">TS</a>]

00:00:11   welcome back everybody to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/11">TS</a>]

00:00:12   incomparable i'm your host Jason smell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/12">TS</a>]

00:00:13   this is a different episode in so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/13">TS</a>]

00:00:16   different ways we threatened to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/16">TS</a>]

00:00:18   for a long time often over a few beers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/18">TS</a>]

00:00:20   we threatened to do this episode which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/20">TS</a>]

00:00:23   is about beer that's true it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/23">TS</a>]

00:00:26   absolutely true one part of culture that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/26">TS</a>]

00:00:28   might not be a book or a comic or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30   movie or or or a TV show is a beverage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32   music or hiking or blisters hiking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/32">TS</a>]

00:00:37   hiking episode or dogs the door like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39   tourism-related tourism indeed so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/39">TS</a>]

00:00:42   here to talk about beer and let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/42">TS</a>]

00:00:45   introduce my guess you heard him right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47   there so i might as well introduce him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   mr. Steve let's hi Steve hello Jason I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/49">TS</a>]

00:00:52   here to drink beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/52">TS</a>]

00:00:53   yes you and I have I have a fond memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/53">TS</a>]

00:00:56   of of drinking a really weird beer with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/56">TS</a>]

00:00:59   pineapple in it at your house mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/59">TS</a>]

00:01:00   pineapple mr. pineapple although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/60">TS</a>]

00:01:02   actually in that respect to this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/62">TS</a>]

00:01:03   is not very different from other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/63">TS</a>]

00:01:05   podcasts that i have been on that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07   good point David lure joins us as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/67">TS</a>]

00:01:10   hi David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/70">TS</a>]

00:01:11   normal done and then coming coming to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/71">TS</a>]

00:01:14   from the land of cheers it's dan more'n [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/74">TS</a>]

00:01:17   hi I'm thinking beers with several of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/77">TS</a>]

00:01:20   you and I look forward to drinking beers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/80">TS</a>]

00:01:21   with the rest of you now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23   alright well it's about to happen brian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/83">TS</a>]

00:01:24   hamilton are you old enough to drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26   beer mr. pineapple was nowhere near as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/86">TS</a>]

00:01:32   good as mr. robot in my opinion but did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34   you really see it first time on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/94">TS</a>]

00:01:36   uncomfortable but his wife's been on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/96">TS</a>]

00:01:39   lot so we we've talked about him but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41   hasn't been here before but beer was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/101">TS</a>]

00:01:44   reason to get him at last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/104">TS</a>]

00:01:45   Marco Arment hi Marco hello I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/105">TS</a>]

00:01:48   drink a lot more of this beer before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50   can have a woody greeting but he usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/110">TS</a>]

00:01:52   have on these shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/112">TS</a>]

00:01:53   that's that's just check at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55   we'll see what happens at the end we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   just kind of drill into our microphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/117">TS</a>]

00:01:58   and out that'll be it like usual one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00   our greetings been witty is what I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/120">TS</a>]

00:02:01   like to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/121">TS</a>]

00:02:02   well depends how much beer you've had I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04   see now I that's everybody that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/124">TS</a>]

00:02:08   usually introduced on skype [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/128">TS</a>]

00:02:09   however this is a very strange episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/129">TS</a>]

00:02:10   in that i also have people in my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/130">TS</a>]

00:02:13   with me right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/133">TS</a>]

00:02:14   oh my god philipose lack highmost am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/134">TS</a>]

00:02:17   ready for some budweiser that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/137">TS</a>]

00:02:21   over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/141">TS</a>]

00:02:22   I'm married effort making her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24   contractually obligated one podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/144">TS</a>]

00:02:26   appearance per year and her first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/146">TS</a>]

00:02:28   on the incomparable proper it's my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30   Lauren snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/150">TS</a>]

00:02:31   hello hey and our instigator the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/151">TS</a>]

00:02:37   who put this whole thing together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/157">TS</a>]

00:02:38   I'm an act brewing's own Jesse Friedman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/158">TS</a>]

00:02:42   anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/162">TS</a>]

00:02:43   hi the beer is coming from inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/163">TS</a>]

00:02:46   house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/166">TS</a>]

00:02:46   good that's the best place for the beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48   to come from is actually that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50   appropriate so so jesse is a podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/170">TS</a>]

00:02:53   listener and also he has his own brewery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/173">TS</a>]

00:02:57   sure so I just have a lot of follow-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/177">TS</a>]

00:03:01   and that's why I'm here all of your show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/181">TS</a>]

00:03:04   is I have notes that I'd like to pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06   all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/186">TS</a>]

00:03:07   this has been a long games that's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09   thing you brought beer started drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/189">TS</a>]

00:03:11   and then we'll go from there so that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13   way this works is Jesse you selected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/193">TS</a>]

00:03:17   some beer and sent it across this great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/197">TS</a>]

00:03:20   country to all of these people and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/200">TS</a>]

00:03:23   brought some to in coolers to my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25   for those of us who are here and I'm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/205">TS</a>]

00:03:28   now we're all going to drink the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/208">TS</a>]

00:03:29   beer and talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/209">TS</a>]

00:03:31   so what was your what was your thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/211">TS</a>]

00:03:34   process including the selection together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/214">TS</a>]

00:03:36   well we did a we surveyed the group and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/216">TS</a>]

00:03:39   got sort of everyone's beer history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   confessional and everyone sort of laid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/221">TS</a>]

00:03:44   bare their soul on their favorite and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46   least favorite beers just wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/226">TS</a>]

00:03:50   ah and i took that bumpy ride and I took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/230">TS</a>]

00:03:54   it as a little bit of a challenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/234">TS</a>]

00:03:56   I you know I try and be an advocate for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/236">TS</a>]

00:03:58   craft beer and want to expose people the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/238">TS</a>]

00:04:00   new beers they haven't tried before that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/240">TS</a>]

00:04:02   I think they'll like I always whenever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04   someone says I don't like beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   I always take that as I just haven't had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08   a beer I'd have liked yet and so I tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/248">TS</a>]

00:04:11   to sort of fit in a bunch of people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/251">TS</a>]

00:04:12   preferences and try and select some new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/252">TS</a>]

00:04:14   things I tried to pick beers that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16   pretty widely available to so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   people listening to this in the united [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20   states can hopefully find most if not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22   all of those beers and triumph triumph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/262">TS</a>]

00:04:23   for themselves and then come to jasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/263">TS</a>]

00:04:26   house and taste them with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/266">TS</a>]

00:04:27   hands up everybody who said i don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/267">TS</a>]

00:04:30   beer earlier those people are the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32   who are not present on this podcast you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/272">TS</a>]

00:04:35   know who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/275">TS</a>]

00:04:35   just look at our common list of guests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/275">TS</a>]

00:04:38   and you'll know who is not here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/278">TS</a>]

00:04:40   that's the answer those people don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/280">TS</a>]

00:04:41   to drink beer now how about that burn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/281">TS</a>]

00:04:44   announcers or they were outside of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   united states in which case they also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/286">TS</a>]

00:04:47   didn't get to drink beer and there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/287">TS</a>]

00:04:49   some good said people in the UK but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/289">TS</a>]

00:04:51   that's what can you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/291">TS</a>]

00:04:52   so yeah so we shipped a bunch of beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/292">TS</a>]

00:04:53   across the country and I think the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/293">TS</a>]

00:04:55   here is will sort of taste them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   together one at a time will get people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59   sort of hot take on what they think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01   it and then talk about how it's made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/301">TS</a>]

00:05:04   little beer history beer culture ANSWER [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/304">TS</a>]

00:05:06   Answer beer-related trivia and hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/306">TS</a>]

00:05:10   via make it mildly interesting what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/310">TS</a>]

00:05:13   good about beer podcasting is it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/313">TS</a>]

00:05:14   gets more interesting the more beers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16   right into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/316">TS</a>]

00:05:17   Steve's I had his well and what we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/317">TS</a>]

00:05:19   to at least do is on your podcast player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21   of choice and overcast not you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23   make sure to just slowly speed it up as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/323">TS</a>]

00:05:26   the episode goes on be just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/326">TS</a>]

00:05:27   accommodate for what will likely be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/327">TS</a>]

00:05:28   happening here or slow it down further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/328">TS</a>]

00:05:30   if you're going to be entertained by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/330">TS</a>]

00:05:31   that that would be a very feature the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33   dynamically increasing podcast speed as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/333">TS</a>]

00:05:36   the episode goes along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/336">TS</a>]

00:05:37   it's like beer goggles for headphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39   and maybe you can incorporate something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/339">TS</a>]

00:05:40   where the blood alcohol level is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42   monitored throughout the podcast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/342">TS</a>]

00:05:44   then you can adjust accordingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/344">TS</a>]

00:05:45   yeah thatthat's 3-pointer right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47   these are all great ideas health kit all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/347">TS</a>]

00:05:49   right now call direct all of you to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/349">TS</a>]

00:05:51   first beer we're gonna start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/351">TS</a>]

00:05:52   allagash saison alighieri is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55   yes okay I better go get that then yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58   go get that was going ok I'll get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   and my children glass and then put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   another glass in the freezer so it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   can be chilled what you think that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   don't show your glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/366">TS</a>]

00:06:07   I think we're gonna have a lot of breaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/367">TS</a>]

00:06:08   in this pocket don't show your glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/368">TS</a>]

00:06:11   that's the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/371">TS</a>]

00:06:12   alrighty i'm i'm drinking at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/372">TS</a>]

00:06:13   allagash everyone's silently drinking is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/373">TS</a>]

00:06:16   from is from Maine is what remains yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   alright because i first had allagash I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   think I now against white and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/380">TS</a>]

00:06:22   when i was in boston visiting dan moore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24   and probably and indeed i've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/384">TS</a>]

00:06:26   allagash white too so I'll give a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/386">TS</a>]

00:06:27   introduction to myself well you guys all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   taste your first beer here please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31   so i'm the co-founder and brewmaster of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/391">TS</a>]

00:06:34   Almanac beer company out in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/394">TS</a>]

00:06:35   Francisco we're about five years old we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/395">TS</a>]

00:06:38   we brew a huge variety of beers were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/398">TS</a>]

00:06:41   distributed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/401">TS</a>]

00:06:42   15 states i think now our specialty is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/402">TS</a>]

00:06:47   barrel-aged beers and sour so I brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/407">TS</a>]

00:06:48   one of my own that will sneak in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50   you'll tell me what you think of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/410">TS</a>]

00:06:51   later and we also brew IPAs dark beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/411">TS</a>]

00:06:55   sort of across all styles and I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/415">TS</a>]

00:06:58   beer bloggers before before I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/418">TS</a>]

00:07:01   brewer so i often identify as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   recovering recovering beer bloggers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05   what you're doing now sounds a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/425">TS</a>]

00:07:06   satisfying than what you were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/426">TS</a>]

00:07:07   before it but that this is a this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/427">TS</a>]

00:07:11   favorite beers i was really excited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/431">TS</a>]

00:07:12   share with you guys so this is a saison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14   it's a style of beer that comes out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/434">TS</a>]

00:07:17   sort of the French Belgian border it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/437">TS</a>]

00:07:20   farmhouse ale so historically this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/440">TS</a>]

00:07:23   beer that would have been made in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   summer and for farm hands in the field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/445">TS</a>]

00:07:28   so it's designed to be really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/448">TS</a>]

00:07:29   refreshing and screwed with a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   percentage of wheat and light mult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/451">TS</a>]

00:07:34   podcasters people listening at home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/454">TS</a>]

00:07:37   can't look at it but it's like a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39   sort of light straw color and i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41   like it it's a really aromatic bright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43   beer it's a beer that gives like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45   really nice example of yeast character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/465">TS</a>]

00:07:48   in the beer so a saison is fermented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50   with you know very particularly strains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/470">TS</a>]

00:07:53   really really warm and that brings out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55   the yeast flavor so if you sort of swirl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/475">TS</a>]

00:07:58   this around your glass and give it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/478">TS</a>]

00:07:59   deep sniff you get sort of aromas of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01   like pineapple and coriander a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/481">TS</a>]

00:08:04   bit hey in there now I've not been a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/484">TS</a>]

00:08:07   Belgian fan until just recently and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09   was because specifically I was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11   really acclimated to the taste of yeast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13   and wasn't a big fan and there's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15   some nice tea beers that i'm not a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17   fan of but but this is quite nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/497">TS</a>]

00:08:20   and I've become just kind of more I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/500">TS</a>]

00:08:23   guess accustomed to it as I've had more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/503">TS</a>]

00:08:24   over the years and I really kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   the sort of banana bread II sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28   flavor that I get with the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/508">TS</a>]

00:08:29   strains of yeast they use in this sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   of beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/511">TS</a>]

00:08:31   yeah i gotta say I'm I'm not usually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34   buyer of cézanne just because i never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36   knew what it meant until just now and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/516">TS</a>]

00:08:39   wasn't sure what I'd like it or not and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/519">TS</a>]

00:08:40   this is this is probably the first beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/520">TS</a>]

00:08:43   of this color that I've ever actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/523">TS</a>]

00:08:44   liked but i really like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   also I astok I really I i think i'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/526">TS</a>]

00:08:49   buying more views in the future and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/529">TS</a>]

00:08:50   before you even said it I was like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   is kind of like awesome summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   refreshing beer like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   others like okay well least on a gnome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/536">TS</a>]

00:08:57   on the right track then I'm gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   this one the most refreshing beers I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01   had that isn't you know something like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   Shandy that is meant to be as refreshing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05   as this but this is definitely one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/545">TS</a>]

00:09:06   the most refreshing things i've had in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   awhile I was a I find it a bit on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/548">TS</a>]

00:09:09   crispy side it's it's good i agree that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/549">TS</a>]

00:09:12   it does seem like refreshing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/552">TS</a>]

00:09:13   good in the summer although I do find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/553">TS</a>]

00:09:14   the taste a little on the stronger side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   in terms of emphasizing where the yeasty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/556">TS</a>]

00:09:19   characteristics and I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/559">TS</a>]

00:09:20   traditionally like but it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   bad i would i would happily drink a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24   glass of it i think it would not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26   something I necessarily go out of my way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/566">TS</a>]

00:09:27   to purchase but you know i would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/567">TS</a>]

00:09:30   certainly wouldn't turn it down now I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   drink a lot of seasons and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   actually had allagash before it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/574">TS</a>]

00:09:38   lovely it's if there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41   citizens to choose from it's not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43   first choice but it's it's good it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/583">TS</a>]

00:09:46   like Dan said it's it's stronger then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   then the seasons i prefer I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/588">TS</a>]

00:09:53   hoegaarden is one of my co 2 beers but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/593">TS</a>]

00:09:56   love belgian beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/596">TS</a>]

00:09:57   yeah I like the open beer no and I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   had a saison also because of the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/599">TS</a>]

00:10:00   what is that what kind is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   and the first time i had i thought you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/602">TS</a>]

00:10:03   know it has a flavor to it that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   reminds me of some of the flavors that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/605">TS</a>]

00:10:06   get in something like a like an IPA but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/606">TS</a>]

00:10:09   it doesn't have it you know there's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/609">TS</a>]

00:10:12   and I don't know what it is there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/612">TS</a>]

00:10:13   flavor in there that reminds me of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/613">TS</a>]

00:10:14   but it doesn't have all the flavors in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16   an IPA that I don't like so much it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18   it's not over hopped yeah it's got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20   sits in its a kind of fruity and a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/620">TS</a>]

00:10:23   and yeah i like not to this might be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/623">TS</a>]

00:10:26   good time to back up and give like super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/626">TS</a>]

00:10:28   basic beer knowledge just to give a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/628">TS</a>]

00:10:29   little sore vocabulary so how about just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/629">TS</a>]

00:10:32   alright all beer is me is a fluid that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   contains alcohol [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/634">TS</a>]

00:10:35   yeah go on the rest of it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/635">TS</a>]

00:10:38   important been so beers made out of four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/638">TS</a>]

00:10:42   basic ingredients I and if you're a 17th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/642">TS</a>]

00:10:47   century German you call it the night sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/647">TS</a>]

00:10:49   bottom there you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/649">TS</a>]

00:10:50   yeah it should get a sound effect to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/650">TS</a>]

00:10:53   chime in right there with sorry just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/653">TS</a>]

00:10:54   clearing my throat were you gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/654">TS</a>]

00:10:55   something about Germany so I malted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/655">TS</a>]

00:10:58   barley water hops and yeast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/658">TS</a>]

00:11:03   obviously yeast was added only after it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05   was discovered by louie pastore much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   much later but those are the four basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   ingredients a beer and you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   almost any kind of beer out of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/671">TS</a>]

00:11:13   those ingredients by just varying either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/673">TS</a>]

00:11:16   amounts or treatment or ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   they're processed in the beer and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20   tried to pick out a couple different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/680">TS</a>]

00:11:21   beers that we can talk about some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   those different aspects as we go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/683">TS</a>]

00:11:24   it but this is one where you selection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/684">TS</a>]

00:11:27   is really important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/687">TS</a>]

00:11:28   what I really like about seasons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/688">TS</a>]

00:11:30   particulars you ferment them really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/690">TS</a>]

00:11:33   really really hot much hotter than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35   would like an IPA or certainly like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/695">TS</a>]

00:11:36   log or anything like that so you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/696">TS</a>]

00:11:39   ferment our arses on up in like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/699">TS</a>]

00:11:42   mid-eighties all the way up to 90 just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/702">TS</a>]

00:11:45   shy of hot enough to kill the yeast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   that is what creates what we call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/707">TS</a>]

00:11:48   phenols investors which are all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/708">TS</a>]

00:11:49   aroma flavors that were tasting those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51   banana flavors that pineapple that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/711">TS</a>]

00:11:54   strong character that's all being really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   derived by the by the east but yeast is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/716">TS</a>]

00:11:59   going to contribute to every beer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   we try because you can make beer without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/721">TS</a>]

00:12:02   it or what did you think of this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/722">TS</a>]

00:12:05   oh this is fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/725">TS</a>]

00:12:08   this is exactly my kind of beer if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/728">TS</a>]

00:12:11   would if I was gonna I like half of ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/731">TS</a>]

00:12:14   and I like wheat beers I like fruity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/734">TS</a>]

00:12:17   beers and this is this this was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/737">TS</a>]

00:12:20   good thank you jesse has poured her a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/740">TS</a>]

00:12:21   little more beer as a reward for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/741">TS</a>]

00:12:24   maybe I was gonna can I finish that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   works that way that I'm going to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28   keep saying everything is great i'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/748">TS</a>]

00:12:31   the wrong house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/751">TS</a>]

00:12:32   that's all I know that's for sure is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34   this one is this one unfiltered i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36   noticed that it's a bit you know when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38   hold up the color to light it's a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40   cloudy or I feel like at least ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42   traditionally this would be sort of more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   rustic unfiltered beer there's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/764">TS</a>]

00:12:46   a little bit of yeast in there not much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/766">TS</a>]

00:12:48   they probably it's you know it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50   stable beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/770">TS</a>]

00:12:51   it's got a little bit of haze to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/771">TS</a>]

00:12:52   though things like you know German [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/772">TS</a>]

00:12:55   horizons and things like that they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   actually put yeast back in the bottle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   specifically to make it extra cloudy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   atefeh is that kind of cheating though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/781">TS</a>]

00:13:04   now but there's no cheating they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/784">TS</a>]

00:13:07   making beer dude come at you don't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09   to put a bunch of artificial rules on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   there already that german thing if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13   makes it good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/793">TS</a>]

00:13:14   it's okay yeah I'll i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/794">TS</a>]

00:13:16   Belgians Marco you like belgian beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18   don't you I love Belgians that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20   the first time I've ever seen one that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22   could see through now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/802">TS</a>]

00:13:23   yeah fair enough and that was below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   about nine percent alcohol doesn't look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   at the model says its 6.1 so I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/807">TS</a>]

00:13:30   obviously you know my my knowledge of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   beer like on a professional level is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/812">TS</a>]

00:13:35   nil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/815">TS</a>]

00:13:35   I i know i know very little about it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/815">TS</a>]

00:13:38   know slightly more i would say than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/818">TS</a>]

00:13:39   average person who ordered beer at a bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/819">TS</a>]

00:13:42   but not by much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44   so all I know is you know the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/824">TS</a>]

00:13:45   limited parts I've seen and the Belgians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/825">TS</a>]

00:13:48   I've seen are mostly the very high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/828">TS</a>]

00:13:49   alcohol ales and i love them they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/829">TS</a>]

00:13:52   wonderful I mean that the shimmy grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/832">TS</a>]

00:13:54   reserve blue is one of my favorites in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/834">TS</a>]

00:13:57   fact i had to rank my beers that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59   be number one baby bottle between that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/839">TS</a>]

00:14:02   and that's just something to hope for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   yeah yeah i'm i'm right there and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/844">TS</a>]

00:14:08   much of the belgium brewing tradition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/848">TS</a>]

00:14:09   actually comes out of monks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11   monasteries brewing so there are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13   breweries you can mention me is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15   one of them you can buy beer that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   actually brewed by monks on-premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   these days it tends to be brewed by late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/859">TS</a>]

00:14:21   people that work for the monasteries but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/861">TS</a>]

00:14:23   it was brewed as a source of sustenance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   they would fast and only drink beer as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/865">TS</a>]

00:14:29   their only source of calories during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/869">TS</a>]

00:14:30   certain festivals in certain months and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/870">TS</a>]

00:14:33   it sort of comes out of a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/873">TS</a>]

00:14:34   religious tradition there as well so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/874">TS</a>]

00:14:35   makes the monastic life style seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   somewhat more plan muris imagine on an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/877">TS</a>]

00:14:40   empty stomach having some of that high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/880">TS</a>]

00:14:42   alcohol Belgian yet just imagine Jason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/882">TS</a>]

00:14:45   can't even really would not even be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47   you start to have visions and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/887">TS</a>]

00:14:50   right religion it was a religious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52   experience for them and re-rig quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/892">TS</a>]

00:14:53   literally yeah so I'm ma about not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/893">TS</a>]

00:14:57   knowing anything about beer that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/897">TS</a>]

00:14:58   jesse is here to help us with right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00   right now so we've already learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/900">TS</a>]

00:15:01   something about about the cézanne which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/901">TS</a>]

00:15:05   I seriously i was suggested before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07   got started I only ever had a saison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/907">TS</a>]

00:15:08   because there was a i was at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10   restaurant where all the other beers on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/910">TS</a>]

00:15:12   the menu looked unappealing and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/912">TS</a>]

00:15:14   said that it was good and i ordered and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/914">TS</a>]

00:15:15   I was like oh my god this is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/915">TS</a>]

00:15:16   really good so it was an accidental for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/916">TS</a>]

00:15:18   me too well there's like you know beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/918">TS</a>]

00:15:21   like anything else there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/921">TS</a>]

00:15:22   trends and so this lives in like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/922">TS</a>]

00:15:23   same family as like a belgian wit or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/923">TS</a>]

00:15:26   like a German horizon and right now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/926">TS</a>]

00:15:29   is probably the most popular of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   sort of family but then you know in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   couple years will be drinking half away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/933">TS</a>]

00:15:34   and again fair enough fine with me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   mean speaking of trends I I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   you know without ruining the ending here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/938">TS</a>]

00:15:39   i think it's interesting that we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   this this panel that has no IPAs in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   because it seems like oh I don't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45   seems like what's what's in style and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/945">TS</a>]

00:15:48   has been like has been beating us over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/948">TS</a>]

00:15:49   the head is beer consumers for the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   five or six years is just everybody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/951">TS</a>]

00:15:54   the universe makes IPAs now and IHS late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/954">TS</a>]

00:15:57   and I like IPAs and even I'm happy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59   see that we don't have any here to taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/959">TS</a>]

00:16:00   because i'm so tired of my pjs even as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/960">TS</a>]

00:16:02   fan of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/962">TS</a>]

00:16:03   Marco you may be missing a beer you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05   should have an IPA at did you let an IPA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   you guys wandering some IPA ok let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/967">TS</a>]

00:16:08   give it a shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/968">TS</a>]

00:16:09   no all right not especially believed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   is not this is the one where I will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/971">TS</a>]

00:16:15   like oh you know that was internally on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   somebody said to me in a box by fedex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/977">TS</a>]

00:16:20   for free but I i will say my partner in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/980">TS</a>]

00:16:24   theater is very much a fan of ipas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/984">TS</a>]

00:16:27   the hoppier the better so he's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   i'm not a huge fan on my own but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/989">TS</a>]

00:16:33   he's educated me in the ways you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   I at least like tasting them just to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37   the differences you know especially like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/997">TS</a>]

00:16:39   Dogfish Head between the the 60 to 90 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   and 120 minute ipas and it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:45   but I never choose to drink them i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47   even like battling like tasting them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   alright so next year is the Alpine beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51   company too wet india pale ale Steve go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:54   get the go get the next for that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56   okay good CII gotta give this beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:59   credit this this is an IPA that does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:02   just beat you over the head with hops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04   there's actually and flavors there and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:05   like hops remarks that my dog is named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07   hops and even then like I i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:10   the balance here that doesn't it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:13   go overboard isn't totally crazy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15   doesn't have the blast off like of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   lagunitas like we're all cut up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:20   nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:20   this is a lot smoother shots fired mhm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:24   just gonna say it i mean welcome i'm new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   to California so that kind of the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:27   this whole scene is is very very new to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:29   me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:30   IPS where the hops can enhance the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:32   flavor are definitely my favorite the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:33   ones that just crank up the happiness to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:36   a point where it's almost impossible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:37   drink I'm there with you Dan I can't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   can't even like put them in my mouth but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41   this 1i i will say about this that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43   tastes I I smelled it and thought wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45   that smells really strong but the taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:47   was much milder than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:48   he smells going to be to my palate I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:50   agree Lauren and I both drank it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52   then looked at each other like yeah well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:54   this is something I would finish given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1074">TS</a>]

00:18:01   it i wouldn't i wouldn't not turned out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   urine has dramatically held the glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   out and poured it on now that's not true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:08   at all it's just because you two were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:09   hyper saturated with IPA that is so I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:12   never liked I've never liked it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:13   it tastes so like I said about the saves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15   on the season has a flavor that I also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:16   recognizing the IPA but not those you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:19   know bitter flavor that I is it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:22   work for me i don't get it i find those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:24   other flavors kind of unpleasant and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:27   find it all so now that you know after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:28   finishing that there's an aftertaste of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30   the bitterness it's there and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:32   don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:33   sure yet it reminds me of the 60 minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:36   Dogfish Head I've got a beer picked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   for Jason that's gonna close that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:39   have a problem with IPS for me for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   while has been that I live in San Diego [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   where they're apparently has been some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45   sort of a contest to try and produce the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:47   beer that actually cause your time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49   dissolve in your mouth that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:52   hydrochloric acid Steve stop drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:54   yeah you want to contact that I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56   recently has tasted very similar to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58   the old HCL IPA get 1i I kind of got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:02   turned off by IPS because of that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   also because I PA for awhile became like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   sort of the sourdough of beers like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   what you would order because you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10   want to be the sort of ghost person that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   ordered white bread on your sandwich but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   you didn't know enough about beard know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:15   anything other than IPA is so that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   found that kind of annoying i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:18   sourdough though I love sara sara is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:21   great but it's like the default [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:22   selection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:23   yes my question to you is what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25   relationship between the bitterness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:26   the flavors in the IPA the kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   floral hobby flavors that go in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30   what is the appeal of making them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32   incredibly bitter and in this case this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34   isn't very bitter that I can't drink I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   really do enjoy it even though the has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   said the aftertaste is rather bitter but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   uh what what is the relationship between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   the flavors that are popular and IPAs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44   and the bitterness great question really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:47   glad i slept you that 20 bucks before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:49   start like a free beer wasn't enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:53   consume to say things I'm so let's look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:56   so let me back up a little bit and talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58   a little bit about how beer is made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00   so we start with a malted barley so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:03   that's barley that's been what they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   is they soak it which causes it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07   germinate and start to sprout and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:10   they fault that process by killing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   and that creates this enzymatic process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   that converts the starches into sugars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16   and makes that into a good yeast food so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:19   if you've ever had you know like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:20   malted milkshake that's that same flavor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   that that we're driving there so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24   start with that you crack it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:26   soak it and you basically make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:28   multi-quote meal is what you've made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30   there and then we run boiling water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:33   through that and that creates what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:34   Brewers called wort which is a sugar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:36   solution so we start out with basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   just a giant boiling cauldron of boiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:41   sugar water from multan that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:44   the sugar source so we boil that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:46   about an hour and during that hour we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48   add hops and we add hops at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   beginning it actually adds bitterness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:53   and then the you add more hops during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:56   the different times as you make the beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:57   and hops that are added the end don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1257">TS</a>]

00:21:00   add any bitterness they only add flavor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:03   and aroma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:04   so if we go back like 10 years back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06   extreme beer you know double IPAs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08   just really sort of blowing up that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10   when you've got all these hops being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:11   added at the beginning and middle of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:13   process creating some good flavors but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:16   just an enormous amount of bitterness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:18   and so it's like biting into a Juniper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20   branch is the exactly that I generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22   or like biting into like an orange peel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:25   with like a lingering pithy bitterness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27   that can release it on your palate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:28   yeah doesn't sound great if i recall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30   correctly the the IPA you know the india [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:33   pale came from it was stable enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   ship right is that the origin of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:38   well that's almost definitely the so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   there's a story that there was a ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   bound for India and that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:45   shipwrecked and that all the town where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   it was shipwrecked drink the beer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   was like this is super delicious we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   should drink this all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:52   that's almost definitely apocryphal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:55   never happened but it is true that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   india pale was developed specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59   for ships going to India because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:03   water super unsafe to drink lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:06   bacterial things going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:07   whereas beer is actually she'll really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   stable and sit much much safer to drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   the water is in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:12   x because the fermentation process the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   alcohol and hops are actually a natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:17   antiseptic that prevent infection in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   beer that's how they first got used in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   BSO beer is better for you than water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23   oh definitely ok I think I also heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   that the the hops had a preservative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:28   effect is there any truth to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   absolutely yeah that's the antiseptic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:32   quality so specifically it keeps promo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:35   lacto infection which is you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:38   one of our beers is brewed with lacto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40   which you could culture from yogurt if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:41   you wanted to as well so there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43   sorts of different you know to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:45   historically you'd make a beer and sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47   of whatever was in the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   ads into it these days you know by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   boiling it your sterilizing it and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:53   pitch a very specific East rain that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:55   want to fuse and so like this duet is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:58   from san diego and that's brewed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1378">TS</a>]

00:22:59   the California or american ale strain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:02   really dry west side we'd really dry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04   really clean really supportive of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:07   hops as well so this beer I would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:10   ninety to ninety-five percent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12   hops are either added at the very end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14   the boiling process or in what's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   a dry hop which is where you add hops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18   after fermentation has already completed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20   so if you take this beer and I'll teach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:23   you a kind of a fun beer tasting trick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   is you take the beer swirled around more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:28   fun than just tasting beer more fun than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30   just tasting beer you take the beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32   swirled on your glass and stick your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34   nose in here take a little more if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   need it over there yeah sure just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:37   little Jason's I don't want to thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   my nose out as we just say is I get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41   sorted around take a nice you know deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:45   breath through your nose and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   really smell it and you can smell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:49   character of that that that drive ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:51   which in this case is like citrus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:53   papaya and pine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55   now if you do that again but do it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   your mouth cracked open when you inhale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:00   through your nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:01   what you'll find is it will actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:02   pull the aroma back over your palate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:05   you'll taste the aroma of the beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:08   this is so weird i love it if you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:12   to think maybe having this podcast in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14   the room with the cat boxes was not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:15   best thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:18   what we call an off flavor that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:21   the taste of pineapple and cat box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   benefit just element of litter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:26   I mean that's a hell of an IP so I i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:31   saying earlier that I had kind of went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:32   through a period where I was not a fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:33   of ipas and I've sort of become i I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:37   kind of come back to the fold a bit but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:40   my preference is an IPA where they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   done that they they seem to have taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   care to try and not mask the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:48   of the barley with the hops if I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:50   still sort of taste that barley base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52   under there that's an IPA that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   appreciate this one to me is maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:57   little bit more happy than I like I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59   it's not bad but I i think my preference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:02   would be something where that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:05   there's a little bit more complexity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   I can taste more than just the hops this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   is not a subtle IPA that we pay no no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:12   no marker you said you loved IPAs what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   do you think of this one I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   based on what I've had I drank it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18   in like the kind of like the the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:21   quarter person like that the highest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:23   third-quarter that makes sense like I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   had ones that are better than this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27   yeah well like you know middle middle to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:30   upper 20 fibers yeah basically i I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:34   had I've had IPS I like better than this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   I i prefer generally a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:39   balanced with with the i I'm sorry for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:43   using probably wrong terms here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:44   kinda with the barley flavor of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:46   generally what I find in dogfish head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:49   you know usually the 1690s never enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:52   that the doctor said 90-minute IPA is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:53   one of my favorite beers if not my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   favorite it that one really nails it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58   the 60 is very similar just a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   little bit you know lighter i guess i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   also for IP is also a big fan of of Big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:05   Daddy from speakeasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:07   oh really the two very different styles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09   between that and dogfish head but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:12   really love both of those united and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   because they're so different from each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:17   I don't feel like they're competing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:18   my love you know like everything I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:21   you know choose whatever reason we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:22   a feeling that that that day but darker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:26   shadow think has a remarkable talent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:29   balancing flavors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:32   and whether it's whether it's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:33   basics of the beer being you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:34   between things like the borrowing my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:35   house or whether it's additional flavors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:38   like that if we're making a flavored be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:39   like their pumpkin beer and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:40   you know they do lots of flavored beers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:42   and dogfish head one of the reasons I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:45   will try almost anything they make is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   because i don't like really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49   in-your-face out of whack flavors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   dolphin chatters very very good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53   balancing and and doing things with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:55   subtle touch and and i will almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:58   always trust them to do things correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1618">TS</a>]

00:26:59   to my palate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01   it's funny you say that because my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:02   experience with dogfish head has almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   been exactly a hundred eighty degrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   that is awesome where I find that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:09   tend to overhype almost everything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   you know David rose to those XD minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:14   and ninety 90 minute ipas the where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:17   those names come from i talked about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:18   they add hops you know during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   process they call that continually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   hopped and so what they actually do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:25   add the hops during that entire boil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:28   process so it's a 60-minute boil for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   60 minute IPA and a 90 minute boil and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:33   they had them continuously through that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:34   entire time which is sort of unique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   these guys are like the spinal tap of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   hops where they used to have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:41   little like of vibrating hot kids hockey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:43   table that they would set hops in and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:46   was just fine i cannot cops in SLO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:48   steadily over it but as they've grown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   into you know a massive brewery I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:53   they now have something that it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:54   more like televised hockey table yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:57   guess it's like a little setting cog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:58   that just constantly throws more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   more hops in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:01   no I like you if if what you're looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03   for is crisp and light they don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:06   do that like that like if if that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   you like mostly in beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:09   the doctor said is not going to probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11   make anything that that's really for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13   but if you like you know basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:16   dense rich very hoppy ales and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19   with subtle flavorings they're fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:22   i like density I just like the density [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24   to come from the the the grain component [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:27   as opposed to the hop component and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29   should say that i have come to actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   really appreciate the Indian brown from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:34   donna head which is very complex in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:37   terms of its its grain profile but less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:40   happy I think my my favorite of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   dogfish head's is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:43   the APRA hop which it's it's got the hop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:47   to it but it'sit's apricot beer and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:50   it just I don't know it it has that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:53   balance that I think I'm i don't i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   see that in will certainly 220 got 220 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1735">TS</a>]

00:29:00   still have nightmares about that one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:03   also fit well with with all hoppy beers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:06   actually getting the beer fresh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08   local is going to be the number one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   thing that makes for that to be a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:11   beer so hops are by far and away the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:14   most delicate aspect of the beer that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:17   why the beer has to be packaged in brown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19   bottles is light hops if it's exposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:22   light after its packaged causes it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:25   skunk which tastes like wet cardboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   which is why you waited green bottle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29   don't like don't buy any models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31   everybody green bottle that's why I p.m. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:34   draft oftentimes is better than IPA in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:37   the bots in in bottles and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:40   way i chose this one in particular was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   was at the beer store picking them up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:45   obsessively checking packaging dates on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:46   every single one trying to find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48   freshest possible beer to send out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50   everyone so what does every beer have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52   hops in every beer has hops it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:55   it's not by definition beer if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:56   doesn't have hops it's a grew it alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:59   so it's just a matter of so when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:00   think of a hoppy hoppy beer it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02   matter of how many is it like a martini [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:05   where they they just pass the the hops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07   over the top and then they move on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   whisper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:10   yeah or or is it just a matter of when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   and and and how we get to the Hobby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   Lobby your beers versus the ones that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   are it's both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:17   I mean this allagash beer we had I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   know probably has five to ten percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:23   the hops that the IPA is gonna take but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25   all of those hops are in that dry hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27   period so again it's not just what hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29   is what helps are used and when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   used and then how the beer is treated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:33   after its broad as well I can still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   taste the bitter like actually I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37   very like if its treated meanly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:38   afterwards or can still taste the bitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   so many good time since we've had these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:43   two beers that both have very dull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   labels to talk about sort of a a an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:50   incidental thing for beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   really i mean as far as the flavor is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:53   concerned but I you mentioned the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:57   especially the speakeasy IPA from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58   prohibition Marco they were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:00   we had a big daddy I've I've considered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02   picking that up a couple of times just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:04   because i really like their their design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   style in there soon prohibition based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:09   their the names of their beers and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11   design on their bottles and it's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:14   to me how much that has impacted my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:17   choice when I go to bevmo or total wine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   or wherever and i'm looking for a beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:20   if you put some some real effort into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:23   your design for your bottles are your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:25   I'm much more likely to to to to to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:29   an interest whereas both of these beers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   have the most boring labels and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:32   absolutely i mean that that mean I do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:36   do design work so that's that always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:38   draws my eye and I mean i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:41   probably about 75 percent of the time if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:44   I'm trying something new it is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   of the label or the name and yep and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   creativity and the thought that went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50   into it and i will say and this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52   kissing up out of the five years we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   here there's one label i really like yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:57   i agree i was gonna say the yeah i agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59   to because I i recently went in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01   occasion i go over to like whole foods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:02   and they have some beer and I do like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04   create your own six pack thing and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:05   I picked up a ballast point calm before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:09   the storm because it's got like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   skeleton on it yeah like a pirate ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:14   and it's like well okay you sold me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16   well I mean this is the this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:17   challenge with so many things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:18   perfume is the same way right how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   how do you market something that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   can't experience through your you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24   the the television or a newspaper or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:27   something like that you can't see it or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:29   you can see things and you might be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:32   to hear things but you can't like taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:35   or smell anything unless you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   have it so how do you market that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:40   a product like this it's it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   tough and so yeah the eye-catching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:43   labels happens with wine as well right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45   it's like and you end up sort of selling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:48   your style like we have the like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:51   aisle I kinda like the the Alpine style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:54   it is plain but it's kind of very retro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:57   and fifties and kind of a kind of a kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   everybody was the same all of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   beers have the identical design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:02   interested in anything on the bottom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:05   it's I to me it doesn't do much for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   but I mean that's what surprises me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:08   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:09   so many breweries haven't learned that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:11   lesson or they just don't think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:12   important I mean alpine is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   well-regarded here in san diego there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:15   they're well-known and I think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   probably their reputation is enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   sell their beers but I when I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:22   I'm choosing between say a alpine Willie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:25   and something else in the stores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   I'm more likely to go to the the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   interesting design it just surprises me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   they're still breweries out there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:32   don't seem to put a lot of thought or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:33   effort into that when you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   instance having been to San Diego and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   fallen in love with the orange avenue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:40   with at current i was i was very happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:44   to go and and Jason get your bail Reddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:47   i went up to jungle jims up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   Cincinnati which is a fantastic grocery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:52   stores four acres of international food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54   it's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:55   clearly they have like 1800 beers and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:59   was surprised one day to find orange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01   avenue wit and now the reason I bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03   it was because I knew it it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:05   because it jumped out on the on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   Shelf I i was seeking it out and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:10   last time I went up there they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12   changed their label in their design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   yeah and its really nice now you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:17   it's well but it jumps out a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19   like it's it's got color to it where is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:22   the last the last time i got it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:25   was just sort of a black box with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   know very simple design where is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:30   I mean it's not the greatest design out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:33   there but I spotted it without looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:36   for it some more is in our our beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:39   labels episode that will be a follower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:40   of your table drafts the voters track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:44   it's a draft you gotta taste each of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46   labels i co-founded Almanac with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   designer so Damien my business partner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:51   store on act with was a designer before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   almanac and he ran a design consulting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:56   firm and they did work for like Hubert's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2096">TS</a>]

00:35:00   lemonade and johnnie walker and Diageo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:02   in a bunch of brand so for us actually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:05   basically agree with all of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   criticisms of the beer industry and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:10   sort of you know we started Almanac with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   this very core idea of we want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:13   inside of the bottle to reflect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   outside of the bottle and so now I now i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:19   wish people would slow down with making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21   their beer look better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:22   it's more better think you're that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:26   the first thing I noticed when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:27   unpacked the beer was that your you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:29   your design is very striking right down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31   to the shape of the bottle which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:32   unusual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:33   yeah I mean it's also smartly made for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35   small brewery where you can just replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37   the label at the bottom to indicate what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:40   kind of beer it is but but it also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42   labels clearly have been designed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   the fact that different colors you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:47   immediately pop on the bottle and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:48   you aware of what it is that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:49   you're purchasing so yeah I i was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52   impressed right off the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   we're hiring in our marketing department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:55   also a huge fan of the the main beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:59   company labels they're the ones you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01   you it's a bit a pretty good beer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03   begin with like that they have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:04   fantastic views over there and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06   stand out in the store because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08   juicy stark white labels with like basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:11   serif text on top and bottom and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:14   middle usually some kind of like doodle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   like a stick figure or something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:17   it's like one simple thing there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19   they just look nothing like anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21   else in the shelf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:22   they really stand out when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   face-to-face with a wall appear in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:25   store or we're gonna move on to our next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   beer if anybody has any final final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   things to say about IPAs you may do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:32   now the more I drink this the more I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   drink this Alpine duets be less I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:37   it it I what I'm a hundred percent with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:41   you Bryan I had that wet cardboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:42   started to sound pretty appealing like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:45   finish this is on had one more sip of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:48   the IPA it's not that I don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:52   but it really does get overwhelming on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54   first city was the least overwhelming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:55   IPA I've had in a very long time so I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:59   would have liked a small sample glass of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:01   it but honorable mention it's it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   I don't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:04   yeah I i will put it in fifth place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:07   preemptively person i do it you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:10   our next beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:11   yeah let's let's move on to the next 1i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:13   so let's let's open the California beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:16   from San Francisco the anchor California [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:19   lager this this is another 1i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:20   gotten frequently over the years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22   yeah we have a lot of anger in our house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24   because i like the anchor porter a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26   yes thank reporter/anchor beer to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   sort of standing for steam and control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30   his team is is one of the beers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:33   remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:33   from college when you still drink beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:36   that just said beer on the outside it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:38   was white and had that nicki blue stripe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:41   across the bottom but you know that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:44   not really much different than say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46   budweisers or the banquet beers that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   would get otherwise but i remember at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   that time there were a few that stood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:53   out as here in Nevada was around back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:55   then an anchor steam definitely showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   up I remember pete's wicked al being one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59   of the early beers that I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:00   seeing a lot of which unfortunately is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:01   gone now but but yet these I I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:05   they're largely credited with kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:09   moving the craft beer craft back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:12   the public eye are they not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   yeah so anchor was the first american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:17   craft brewery so it was it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:20   existing brewery in san francisco and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:23   was purchased by Fritz Maytag in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25   early seventies and that the loneliest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:28   Brewer of all ok he's of the Maytag the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:33   Maytag washing machine and Maytag blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:35   cheese family that's the same family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:38   yeah but it's slicing family is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:40   anything they can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:41   maytag washing machines and Maytag blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:44   cheese and anchor brand now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   maytag br2 they accidentally make cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:49   in a Washington state these during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51   washing machines to get the smell of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   cheese out of your food out of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:56   navy blue here in the states of vertical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   integration amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   ah so yeah so he purchased it then and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:03   Fritz we still see him around the San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   Francisco seen Fritz really has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:08   grimace he's very grumpy and I like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:11   take selfies with him every year I take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:14   selfies with him every year at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:15   anchor christmas party which i call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   fritzie's and that has not taken off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:22   what is this sweetness i'm tasting so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24   this is a logger so in that we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:27   talking about east before you're tasting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:29   the blowback from the IPA haha so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:35   talking about yeast before so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:36   two major families in the in the beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:39   world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41   lagers and ales and brewers refer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43   them as top fermenting and bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:46   fermenting because it's important for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48   industry to have the jargon be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   completely in decipherable from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   outside and what that means here in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:55   case is the yeast while it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:58   converting the sugars into alcohol and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00   co2 literally sit at the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02   vessel or the bottom of the vessel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:05   so loggers are fermented a much colder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:08   there much slower to make compared to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:13   IPA or stays on everything else we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:15   had has been a nail so far tonight so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:18   loggers you know we're talking about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:19   know a lot of things coming out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:20   German brewing tradition like this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:24   these German immigrants who came to sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:25   of the Midwest and that's your your your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:28   analyzers in your bushes and and and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:31   of that and that's why we have so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33   so much of popular american beer 2 this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35   day is longer because it came out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:37   that German condition yeah absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:39   and they brought that German efficiency [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41   and precision to it as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43   ah yeah are they getting it is this from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45   the bottom of the barrel or top so was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:48   that in the fermentation process is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:50   are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:50   longer longer lives at the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52   bloggers on the bottom so it's cold it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:54   lower it's much slower so from a brewery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56   perspective this beer takes twice as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58   long to make as the IPA which is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:01   reason i want to see as many craft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03   brewers doing it is equipment and time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05   are the most precious resources so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:07   you can make two batches you can make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:09   twice as much IPA in the time it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11   make one logger give generally speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   also it's not very good haha but in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:16   case so logger you no longer is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:19   think of almost an absence of yeast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:20   character is going to bring forward the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22   malt character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:23   this is also a very light beer but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:25   little bit sweeter but it's got you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   with log we're looking for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:28   smoothness and that comes from even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:31   after its fermented the logger then has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   to be cold condition so loggers actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35   German for to store and so previously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:38   you know they would stored in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:41   underground caves or in the Midwest when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   the beer industry get started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45   k store start stacked with ice cut from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   local lakes with barrels appear I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:51   like loggers for me or are they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   have some similarities with out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:54   he's in the sense that I feel like a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   of them taste kind of say me to me i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:59   and and i think the difference is I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:00   generally am fine with them i find them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   in offensive and I think they are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   are like on a nice on a hot day there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   there's something to be said for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:07   longer but I feel like outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:10   something like a like a black lager I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12   have a hard time distinguishing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:13   characters of one logger from another if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:16   you poured me a glass I'm not sure I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:17   be able to you know in a blind taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19   test tell you what it was which was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:22   say i don't like it i just i again not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   beer that I generally reach for because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:25   I find them to be sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   interchangeable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:28   yeah longer will forever be I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   stained by the fact that the budweisers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   of the world are technically that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   of beer and they're not very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36   yeah i think this over a Budweiser but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:39   the thing that makes this standout i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:40   think from those is that the you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   actually taste some of the barley in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:44   yeah there's some flavor there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46   little more flavor to it then you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:47   get in sort of like your average sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   you know in domestic type water but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51   yeah it's definitely there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:54   less strong flavor I feel like I mean to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56   me like all the loggers just tastes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:59   college that tastes like that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:02   love about it right well because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   you know it for almost four almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:05   everyone who was like drinking cheap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   beer in college that's all you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:08   afford you're in college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:10   almost all of it is lockers you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:11   agent looking at the budweisers and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:13   the Millers of the world like a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   much everything they make is a logger or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   a poor imitation of a craft beer of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19   kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:20   yeah when I was a teenager I had a coors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:23   and I didn't drink beer for another 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   years because that's terrible that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:28   problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:28   like I loggers have a certain element of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:31   their tastes kinda like that what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33   get kind of like Midway toward the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:35   of the taste kind of like kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:37   clamps onto your tongue and doesn't let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:38   go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:39   it's kind of like an attacking flavor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41   that then I do i I can't describe any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   better than that but all loggers tastes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:44   like that and I feel like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:47   responsible for so many people being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:48   turned off of beer because all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:51   because they think all beer tastes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:52   that and it might be a long time before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:54   they ever have a stouter a nail or you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:57   know anything else but that's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:58   longer because so many beers are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00   all loggers that you get in most places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   in america america until very recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:06   that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   that was beer was a logger was a light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10   lawyer was be right for almost everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12   and and I stole my older relatives are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   still like even the imports they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:15   all loggers like the low and brats right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17   and when you're in the forests who who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:19   working in the forest loggers loggers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:22   sure well when I was growing up my dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   the I think that beer that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:25   predominantly that I remember him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27   drinking when I was growing up was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:28   Molson's which is a lawyer yeah I I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:32   you know and whatever I mean like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:33   know I i remember having like Jason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:36   remember having a sip of that at a young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   age and his you know like he he he sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40   of like how you want to try some of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42   and i also was like turned off for beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:44   throughout like most of my college CBI I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:47   want to party with the spear or so bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49   it's 94 on the spot for you to me like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:53   Red Solo Cup is my vein right here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:56   yeah that's and that's all you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:57   quality microbrewed version of of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:00   time I mean sure I think we would all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   probably choose the anchor logger over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   over the king of beers let's say oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:07   we're gonna experience in fairness to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:08   anchor as loggers go this is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:11   flavorful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:11   oh yeah and and Men as a logger hater I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:14   i actually find this reasonable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   yeah so i'll offer offer a little of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18   defense all right Chrissy here's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20   deciding for one defense of loggers I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:23   afraid you will fall on deaf ears but go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:25   for it well i thought i was gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:26   to come here and defend IPAs but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   everyone here secretly an IPA lovers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   chase what this slide no actually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:33   don't think that's going to stand by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:34   cast and you start i'll drink a free IPA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:38   you really need to send us more more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   beer to handle a problem schedule has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:44   some cool episode lock their you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:47   what we have here is a lighter logger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   but logger has the full range that IP [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:53   that ails do we just aren't seeing as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55   much of it here so if you go into other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   brewing traditions like the German [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   brewing tradition there's light lagers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:00   their star cloggers there's double box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:03   and type in my box and there's even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   pls which are IPAs made with loggers so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:08   we can find two things for people here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10   to dislike our box specifically loggers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:15   are they can they also be ales no boxer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:18   loggers and I was really is ok yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20   that's like a spa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:21   meantime darker are traditionally darker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23   darker longer and I love black black and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25   dark loggers I think our life and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27   really enjoy that but i think it made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:28   that they have more mulch traditionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   right exactly well they have the dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   multan it's been dark alone yeah like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34   like a shiner I don't like yeah I'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:37   your box and then from a brewers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   perspective with a logger like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   there's nowhere to hide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   there's there's any every little teeny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   flaw you know it is very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:48   perceptible and laid bare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50   unlike an IPA you know where is it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:53   got that huge hop flavor that if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:56   something a little bit off in the malt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:57   or something like that there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59   other big flavor covering it up that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01   can't see it so this is so simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03   oh yeah you could strain your spring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:04   water straight off somebody's catheter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06   and you never know it in my car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:10   steve lets you you missed a career in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:13   beer journalism if you could let me tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:15   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:16   yeah it'sit's no I mean my we went we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:18   took my in medical to Carl strauss's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   san diego and Carl's hasn't you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:23   eight different beers on tap and my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   uncle's question was what do you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:28   that's the most like miller lite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:29   I think that was literally and they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31   him I don't even know what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:32   probably a light lager of some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34   Carl straps himself was the master [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   brewer at papst haha and before he came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:39   out to San Diego and opened his craft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:41   brewery so you know he's not that far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:43   removed from that tradition is true may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:44   be one of a blue ribbon so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   where you gonna still riding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:49   coattails on that that's right blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:50   ribbon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:51   yeah i'm convinced my love of pabst blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:54   ribbon is at this point Stockholm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   Syndrome probably yes that's that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   they're counting on that's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   also cheats in certain contexts there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:02   nothing wrong with a with a Coors Light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:05   I'm sorry context where you really want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07   to be drinking water but you feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:08   you have to drink beer to fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   yeah i mean it's it's what we call out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   here fizzy yellow water but if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   all you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:15   it's okay well PBR is bit has benefited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:18   from that whole like you know sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   the hipster researcher exactly saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22   back Jesse I mean I'm interested in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:25   take on it and would you say that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27   just longer because we're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:30   bashing longer here a little bit but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32   is longer get beat up because it became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:35   popular and because there are all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:36   mass-produced beers is there more would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:39   you say there's more to it than that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   would you say that know it what you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:42   is what you get with a locker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:43   yeah i think when we are all here are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:45   saying logger I think what everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:48   means is macro beer and ya know right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:51   my you know I drink natty 890 light in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:54   college was my poison of choice that boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:57   that's a step out you are your photos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2937">TS</a>]

00:49:00   rich kids I just remember when we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02   afford not to buy natty crist that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04   the really rough 10 is doing his best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:07   friend in Baltimore and and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:10   parties you know it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:11   wall-to-wall national bohemian and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:14   called it if this wasn't even like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:17   saying oh wow what is this garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   no they called the battery acid but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:22   could buy like 60 cans for ten bucks so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:26   I see in my day if your beer didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:28   an exclamation mark at the end or reboot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30   under the cap or threaten or Cobra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:35   so yeah I think I think logger logger is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:37   very sort of nascent right now in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   craft beer world and there is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   really exciting stuff coming out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43   but it's also i think it's i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:46   important for craft beer to be a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48   tent you know and i think their space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50   care lightly flavored drink it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:53   beach being able you know Almanac makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:57   a pilsner too and i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:58   sometimes people want to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00   20-minute conversation or a to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02   podcast about beer but sometimes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04   just say hey can I have a beer and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06   love having a beer that I can stand them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   and say here's a beer flavored beer you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10   know and it doesn't have to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:12   yeah it's really pilsners were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:13   bad-mouthing here isn't it not someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   like pilsners come on I'll of pills so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:18   what's the difference between a pilsner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:20   a logger logger is like a family and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:23   pilsners a specific kind of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:26   example yeah so yeah and so actually in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   a lot of pilsners you know a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:29   traditional one will tend to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:32   fairly bitter and hoppy actually as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:35   really oh yeah like a check a check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   style pilsner something yeah about those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   damn terrible to you know i would go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   camelback Gentiles I want to put a word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:45   in for recently I had there's a local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47   brewery here jack's abby and that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:49   have a great black lager called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:51   smoke and dagger which I bought a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:53   six-pack of a few weeks ago which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:55   think is very very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:56   I unit there is something to me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:57   like I I like you know it isn't you it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3057">TS</a>]

00:51:00   interesting to learn about the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:02   the larger category of loggers and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:04   these things that fall under it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:05   there are certainly elements of it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:06   I like and elements of it that I find as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:11   you said as we talked about before just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:12   a little bit sort of generic and watered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   down when i was in Ireland a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   years ago I had a beer there were these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:17   guys who have this like beer making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:19   machine that they were selling on that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:21   don't know if there was anywhere was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:22   like a beer robot you put the stuff in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:23   you press the buttons and it makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:25   beer and a robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:26   yeah it was like it or not or not but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   but uh and one of the things we tasted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:31   like just anybody does this remind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   anybody have a beer that they've had and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:35   I was like yes it does and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37   the only one there were a couple of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:38   and we were in California Californians [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   and they're like what is this beer we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   had and it turned out it was a dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:45   lager a dart of a certain style that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:48   basically the only beer that's in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:50   style that's mass-produces negra modelo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:52   and and it was a great story because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54   they did what they basically said was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   yeah this is a traditional German beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:58   and those Germans went to Mexico and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3118">TS</a>]

00:51:59   they ended up being like the only ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01   who made that style of beer so it kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:03   of faded away elsewhere but there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:05   still being made in mexico and when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:07   write your American very early when I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:08   to a Mexican restaurant that is exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   what I will I like making a guy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   negra modelo I'm up most nights similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:14   to go to accept corona is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17   vienna lager so are like dosa keys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:21   beers like that those are all theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:22   all in that style which is all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24   Germans went everywhere and taught [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26   everyone to make beer the way the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:27   they make it the way they made in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29   germany during the fatherland is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31   master beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:32   yeah we went there but seems like corona [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:35   has that little extra special something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:37   that makes it particularly offensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   learn what do you think about it was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:43   perfectly fine and drinkable and act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:46   slowly I think will probably become my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:47   new I'm gonna bring beer to your house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:50   kind of beer because a lot of the beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:53   that I like I think might be weird like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:56   I'm not gonna bring hell or high water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:58   melon to somebody to somebody I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:01   Hillary my water I really like it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:04   it's not normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:07   no but Lauren you take it to their house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:08   so that you can be like oh you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10   like it all the rest is inevitably well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:12   I'm your friend ok that cool but lord I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   really brought to you through your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   muscles can i light but this I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:20   very good and I think probably drinkable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:23   by a wide range of pallets and when wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:26   it out if you're not liking the logger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:27   just put some lemonade on top of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29   just go to town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:30   that's what I say longer top chasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   your big anchorman right yeah i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34   gonna actually ask jesse i'm an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36   anchorman thank you stay classy San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:37   Diego stay classy maybe but uh one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:41   the things i found about these anchor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:42   piercings they all have some flavor in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:44   common because when I've had the anchor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:45   we to the anchor logger and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47   the anchor porter and the anchor steam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49   they all have something about him that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   can tell it's an anchor beer what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   that do they have like a secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:54   ingredient that they put all their beers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:55   just as part of the anchor tradition the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:58   yeast is a huge factor of it so like her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:02   the anchor steam beer uses a very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:05   specific East that's actually it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07   basically an a logger yeast that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   fermented as a nail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11   so you know like everything else it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   all sort of gradients and so that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:15   logger that's fermented on the warmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:16   side i believe they use it in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:19   California logger to I always sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21   identified that house character is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   little bit sort of a dirty banana is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   I dirt banana kind of internet banana in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28   a good way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:29   yeah I don't even know I don't even have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31   a word for it I flavor i know the that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:34   that anchor the rust scraped off an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   anchor beer is so process dependent that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:39   if we take you know if we take this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:42   California lager recipe and we move it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   to another brewery and we brew the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46   same recipe there that beer will come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48   out tasting significantly different that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50   equipment shape effects yeast flavor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52   process very very very small decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:55   all impact how I beer is made so beer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57   almost entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   the truth is it's very not very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01   ingredient-driven it's much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:02   process-driven and so making all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:05   beer on that same equipment and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07   have this this in you know if you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09   in san francisco i highly recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11   touring the anchor brewery you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:13   set up ahead of time but they have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15   a turn-of-the-century all copper German [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   brew system that was brought over that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:20   incredibly beautiful really really cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:22   and all the Brewers wear white coveralls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   like Oompa Loompas it's because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:28   drunk crap alright and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:32   ameri their orange let's move on to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:35   next beer but what we have next jesse is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:38   this might be one that's near due to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:39   your whole this is a pretty bottle i see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41   it is it is now near and dear to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43   heart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:44   we're gonna we're gonna drink one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:45   mine and we're gonna go sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:46   complete opposite direction of the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48   year we had so this is an almanac beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:51   company beer it is are we called it our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:53   white label because i'm a sucker for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:56   high-concept beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:57   this is all the beers we've had so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3357">TS</a>]

00:56:01   have been made you know what I'd call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:02   using traditional brewing process so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:05   make the wort we talked about we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:06   hops we fermented for two to four weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:08   package it send it out the door ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:11   go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:12   this beer is barrel-aged so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14   process that looks a lot more like wine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16   making so to make this beer we made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   beer just like we did before and in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   case we blend it with about twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   percent of Muscat grape juice from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:25   local winery that is then added in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:28   addition to brewer's yeast we actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:30   use a cocktail of wild yeast so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:32   sort of drawing on belgian lambic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:35   tradition so we're using brittana my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:38   season lactobacillus and PDO caucus and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   all the bugs that traditionally entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:43   brewery is dedicated to keeping out we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:46   welcome in our you just feed this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:49   bacteria what's happening right yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:50   that's exactly what i was doing this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:52   yogurt on this is very pro this is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54   for you this is very probiotic i was i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56   was going to ask because I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:57   started drinking a few seconds earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:00   and pointless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:03   hey it was clear working ahead put down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:05   the pencil i was gonna ask if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:08   related to the lambic style because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:10   lambics are possibly if I were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:12   if I were just gonna drink one thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:14   the rest of my life it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:15   raspberry lambic and it has that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:19   the the it hits the tongue the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:22   and it has the the sort of aftereffect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   the same way which I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26   so when Jesse mentioned the Muscat grape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:28   modes like jumped out of my seat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:31   maybe that's what that I identify you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:35   yeah that was what you were thinking a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:36   little flavor and I mean it's got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:39   really distinct sharpness to it and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:44   I mean yeah didn't I mean I mean it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:46   that flows first right it's really and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:51   just what we've you know we've kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:54   gotten real go see about aromatics but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:57   this has a very nice aromatic to it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3477">TS</a>]

00:58:00   I know it seems good and well that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:03   that is hops is what you're smelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05   there so we actually after we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:08   barrel-aged it we put the spear back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:09   into a stainless steel tank we make very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:11   complicated beers if you haven't we put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:15   it back into a stainless steel tank and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:16   then we dry hop it basically like an IPA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:19   but in this case this is an IPA that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   only has those aroma hops known as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23   bitterness ops at all so you get a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25   hop aroma but very little actual hop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   flavor and we're using uh really there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:30   a bunch of cool new hops coming out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32   Germany right now really cool fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:35   aromatic ops and this is a one called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:38   Howard our blanc which kind of smells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:41   like Riesling grape in a little bit sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   of like a watermelon a little cantaloupe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:46   and so we sort of combine that yet this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:48   takes to me like a Shandy but you used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:50   Chardonnay instead of lemonade sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:53   that's what all that Shannon a it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   acidic very bright and all that acid is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:58   created naturally that's all fermented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00   in the barrel because the oak barrel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   naturally breeds and allows in a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   bit of oxygen at a time and that allows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06   that natural fermentation so we actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:09   we agent all the barrels and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:11   where's a blending process as well where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   we go through and taste hundred barrels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15   and select the ones we like to put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:18   blend together which sounds really fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:20   and kind of becomes like a bataan death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22   march five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:23   yeah take Jerry Jerry said yourself my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:26   god I'm so ripped i can't do anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:28   this like you just have to back off a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30   little bit i mean you can't do this all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:33   that's what assistant Brewers r4i get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:36   that job the whole floor the blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38   brewery is littered with drunkenness is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40   the truth is we're usually doing this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:43   the morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:44   my question for you is this indicative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:45   of all sour beer processes are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:48   yours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:49   there's a couple different ways of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51   it we focus on a barrel aging process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:54   it's slow it's more traditional you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:56   we call it a sour beer we wouldn't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:58   wouldn't call it a lambic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   wouldn't call it a lambic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   lambic and goose i kind of consider holy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   terms like champagne that you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:05   can only call it that if you're making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07   it in that region of Belgium and so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:10   just aspire to make beers in that style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12   there is a sourness to it that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:15   well it's essentially kind of me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17   it's delightful its own right yeah oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:19   yeah i gotta say i'm new to sours i've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21   only recently tried my first sour a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:24   couple of mump weeks months i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:27   i don't really remember some time ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:28   and i have to say i originally it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:32   sounded like a terrible idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:34   it's like NYU wait a minute you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:37   worked really hard to not make your beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   sour and foul and now you're telling me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41   it's a good thing maybe you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:43   trying to save money but i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:47   i've actually become kind of a sour fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:49   i think this it really adds an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:50   interesting kind of twist to to the beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:53   yeah i mean there there's a brewery out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:56   here in Cincinnati called rivertown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:58   brewing that is also doing a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:01   different types of sours and I've had I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:04   mean I've had several there's before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   some of them are really good that do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08   they have a cherry that is delightful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:10   and my wife went to the liquor store a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:14   couple months back and she was looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:16   for lambic and they didn't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:17   lambic and the person at the counter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:21   said all you like this and gave her a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23   river town sour which was not at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:28   you know I mean yes it has it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30   similar characteristics is the similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:32   process but it just it was not a lambic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:35   and she took one sip and 100 no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:40   finished the other fives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:41   yeah that's good smart man I was alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:43   with that I like the fruit tartness of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45   it Marco what do you think of this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:46   mm-hmm Oh in the world of music there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:50   a whole bunch of like you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:52   like this area where all the popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:53   genres kind of live near each other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:56   then kind of off like off in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:57   distance like doing their own thing or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59   the jam bands and as a huge fish fan i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   I'm I'm I'm over there God but nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:04   else likes what we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:05   yeah there's a reason for that right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:06   so to me to me this is kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:09   there's like the world of like typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:11   beer flavors the typical log [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13   typical ails the typical IPA like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:16   what people think of as this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:18   family of things that taste like beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20   and then off to the side doing their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22   crazy thing are thus our people and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:24   people who are making like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:26   fruit wine beer and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:28   this to me it tastes so different from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:31   all other kinds of beer that to me it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:35   like if you're looking for a beer taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:37   this entire category is probably going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:41   to be very unexpected and and possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:43   in a negative way just because it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:44   what you were expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:45   so for me the entire I've never had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:48   sour beer lighter barleywine i like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:51   like the things are kind of on the edges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:52   of beer making compared to popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:54   culture and what is generally available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56   everywhere what people think of as beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58   i've liked almost none of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3778">TS</a>]

01:02:59   and so for me this this doesn't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:01   for me because it just it tastes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:03   different from regular beer it's so sour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:05   and it's so there's so much other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:06   going on there it's just it's not what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:09   wanted a beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:10   it's a totally different I mean it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:11   very really different flavor and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:13   of ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:13   sorry was that i was deleting overcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15   yeah I'm friend while everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:22   talking I refill my my class like two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:24   three times so i like it is it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:28   feels very different to me because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30   got that kind of hanging this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:31   then again like most said but like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:33   know when you drink some grape juice or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:34   fruit juice right you get a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:36   that that seemed kinda kinda tang to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:38   definitely is a very different flavor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:40   Lauren what do you think of this one I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:42   I I appreciate the it's not a regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:45   beer sentiment like if I feel like oh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:48   want to be here maybe this isn't it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:50   this is so so good it's really fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:55   yeah I'd like I cried a lot every I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:57   that fruity is going to be more like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   thing but I i liked it quite this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:02   really good like a treat this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:04   this is not an everyday beers if this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:06   what I pulled out of the fridge it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:07   be 0 this is a wonderful i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:10   that i would have it every day for seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:13   of them but it's it's fantastic i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:16   it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:16   yes I i really like this i think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:19   this is this is very good I feel like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:22   wouldn't probably sit down with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:23   six-pack of this necessarily well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:26   because it seems like it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:27   get like your tongue would be done with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:29   it after a little while see there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:31   little too much going on the pill the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:33   intensity of it you you couldn't do more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:36   than one bottle of it a shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:37   well lets you know well maybe grounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:40   like couldn't do it but this is the type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:43   of beer this detection hours you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:44   have with Emile say or some of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:48   beers and general you would have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:50   it's not to get get your party on with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:53   and I have to always you know kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:55   comeback to that this is more something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:57   you would have it like a nice meal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3897">TS</a>]

01:05:00   yeah I i agree with that i actually was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:01   thinking like this is a great like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:03   Thanksgiving dinner kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:05   straight special occasion kind of kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07   of kind of thing where we get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:09   really nice thing that's not like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:10   everyday beer flavor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:12   yeah i would i would pair this with thai [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:13   food who this is sort of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15   floated a yellow sour patch kid in class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:18   even even with the rivertown i pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:23   much only had it with meals and with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:26   know big hearty meals not even just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:28   you know I'm gonna have a drink with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:29   my sandwich everything i said earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31   about IPAs throw that out the window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:34   when it comes to sour because as much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:35   I don't like overwhelmingly bitter IPAs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:37   give me the most frequent our thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:40   have is you and I gotta say it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:44   disappoint sourness in my opinion brings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:46   out the kinds of fruity flavors that IPA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:49   is just can't muster without being as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51   overwhelmingly bitter as IPAs this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:53   definitely a hit for me of the four so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:56   far it's only the second 1i finished of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:58   the i went to a brewpub in portland that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:01   only serves they brew their own sour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:04   beers and when I was ordering they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:07   actually gave me like a disclaimer like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:08   you know what you're going to get here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:09   these are Sarah city of her house ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:10   before they're not like regular user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12   just read this hour on the label if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:14   like our they have this whole thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:16   was like yeah it's fine and then I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:17   one was like oh I see what you mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:19   is somewhat different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:20   it was really good but it was I see why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:22   you you know they probably get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:24   angry people who like what is this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:26   isn't beer but it is it's just it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:29   different are medium rare and has a warm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:31   pink Center yes i know i had medium rare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:33   yes i guess i'm on the on the Marco end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:35   of this spectrum or perhaps even past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:38   that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:39   that just doesn't doesn't do it for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:41   and I think it's I i agree with most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:42   said I think if there were particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:44   type of meal are having like a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46   wine pairing i feel like i could find a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:48   flavor in a meal that was complimentary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:50   to this and that would work well for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:52   but just drinking it in a vacuum alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:54   by itself and this is just me and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:56   not that I don't like sour things I but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:57   sour beers for me I've never been a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4017">TS</a>]

01:07:00   attractiveness especially the i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:01   the the goes is now becoming very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:03   popular in a lot of places and I I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:06   really developed a taste for those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:07   either so I I appreciate the four in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:10   fruit sort of part of it overwhelms for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:12   me like marco was saying this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:13   the beer aspect of it and so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:16   whatever reason i feel like i'm a moron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:18   that this i'm drinking fermented juice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:20   that's more work for us more for us then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:23   absolutely from experience with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:25   local restaurant i do design work for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:28   filet mignon with a raspberry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:29   demographics and a garlic smashed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:32   potatoes and this would be perfect with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:34   it so nice you know what I mean all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36   favorites that will be created with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:37   anything better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:40   I agree with Dan and Marco and that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:42   is not your average beer this doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44   taste anything like what your regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:45   beer would taste like but I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:47   that's what I love about it there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:49   place in Boston I go with my girlfriend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:50   all the time and for like a solid month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:52   their quote unquote beer of the week was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:55   the most sour thing I've ever tasted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:57   elderflower beer i can remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:58   brewery your God was magnificent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:02   it's possible that if this is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:03   favorite type of beer that maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:05   should really be drinking wine cast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:09   wine that's the thing really like wine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:11   but again it's a matter of expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:14   right like you go in you go in knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:16   what to expect with a wine and you go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:18   i think we people have different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:19   expectations for that or a beer right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:20   and and there's different there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:22   different characteristics to them but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:24   I get what's good with that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:26   yeah i mean we're talking about how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:28   more complicated this is produced it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:30   worth mentioning this is also much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:31   expensive as a result so you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:34   package this in a 375 milliliter bottle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:37   which is like a half wine bottle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:39   this retails for ten to twelve dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:41   give or take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:42   you know in that such model I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:43   that's actually semi-reasonable so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:47   get me to die i'm not a big fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:50   my research involves what they put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:52   their end let's see it seems like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:53   the cost has gone up ridiculously and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55   i'm sure some of that is the costume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:57   ingredients going up but i'm not a fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4137">TS</a>]

01:08:59   of the sort of trend of decreasing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:02   standard size of your purchase from 624 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:05   right in there are a few breweries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:08   palace point that I think charging more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:10   than they probably should for things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:12   if you're if you're specifically looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:13   for something that's like more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:16   unique experience then a something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:20   drink to get a little it up on a friday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:21   night and that's perfectly reasonable I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:24   think the idea here was to give a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:25   spread of options right now because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:27   had no I had no expectation that anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:30   in fact I think of anyone liked every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:32   single beer we put in front of them I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34   wasn't stretching far enough in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:36   election year was the idea was to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:38   and just exposed try new things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:39   hopefully everyone finds you know a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:42   style or flavor that they like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:44   great if it's bri made but it certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:46   doesn't have to be next beer is coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:49   oh look at that affects a lot to KO open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:54   your cans everybody LOL alright wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:57   what did i miss i walk in and Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:59   saying open your kin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:00   yeah it just got dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:05   alright i'm excited this is a dark so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:08   when we were doing the survey and taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:10   in a fee know everyone telling us when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:13   their favorite beer styles where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:16   a huge one of favorites for dark beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:17   and so I really wanted to put on Charlie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:20   out of 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:21   yeah we tell which is I applaud you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:24   actually because that's a bold move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:26   well it was a if if we were representing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:29   the beer industry in general it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:30   have been zero out exactly exactly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:33   that's why I'm asset but this is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:36   my favorites are this is Maui Brewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:38   Company this is their coconut Porter so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:42   it's a fairly traditional English style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:45   Porter they take local coconuts they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:48   toast them and then basically add it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:51   the beer where you would do a dry hop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:52   they just add coconut instead so jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:57   has now roll back into his serious but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4257">TS</a>]

01:10:59   chose this year specifically thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:01   Jason was really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:02   get ya goodbye everybody about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:05   because i had from from kona before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:08   I thought that was pretty good although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:09   it got a little cloying after nine or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:12   ten in a row [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:13   yeah let feel like I'm getting stronger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:16   just drinking it's pretty good i was i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:20   was about say I you know I looked it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:21   because I was curious and Steve I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:22   also had the cocoa brown and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:23   agree with your assessment hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4283">TS</a>]

01:11:25   percent and that it's just that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:27   tastes it starts out very good but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:28   feel like as you go on the sweetness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:31   overpowers the beer and it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:33   I I lose taste for it probably about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:35   halfway through this feels a little my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:37   love I'm i love Porter's love porters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:39   and stouts they're my favorite beers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:41   hands down and uh I'm but i'm not a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:44   coconut fan this is not as I feel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:47   the coconut flavor does not overpower as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:49   much here and it doesn't attract as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:51   from the beer flavor / also on the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:53   I i give this a thumbs up Jesse what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:55   your order I'm liking I haven't tasted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:57   it yet but god this smells fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:59   know that too yeah it smells like do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:03   toastiness I think of the coconut that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:05   makes ya what's a porter and what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:07   a dark beer so Porter is another kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:09   ale in this case it comes it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:11   English style ale so English tiles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:13   traditionally brewed with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:14   english-style yeast you know I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:17   like to describe the yeast as sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:19   you can think of it as representing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:21   national character in some ways so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:23   german lager yeast is very no-nonsense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:25   in serious and Belgian yeast is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:28   funky and weird and out there and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:31   belt in the English East is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:33   bubbly and expressive tends to have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:35   has some Esther profiles for plans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:36   halfway in between Belgian and Germans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:40   like most English people value is yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:42   that s your profile with my grandmother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:45   okay with all dark beer the way it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:48   made dark is it has a very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50   percentage usually five to ten percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:52   max of dark malt so that's malta you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:55   know we make the baseball and then a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:58   small portion of that is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4378">TS</a>]

01:12:59   roasted much more to make it much darker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:02   but it's actually just a very very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:03   amount of specialty multi gives all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:05   color and all of that flavor so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:08   a common thing is people saying Guinness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:11   it's like drinking a loaf of bread and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:14   it's actually the the exact opposite is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:16   3likes inated than a loaf of bread sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:18   well not my mom probably my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:21   food my favorite beer but this is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:26   pretty low alcohol it's really drinkable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:27   it's kind of got some nice toasted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:29   ground open it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:30   Lauren has just dumped her border into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:33   my class so that it's I want your word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:36   that you're you you you go ahead today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:38   that for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:39   alright isn't it nice that you married [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:40   somebody that's really is it's perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:43   it's a whole Peter Peter pumpkin eater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:44   thing going on there is a very well I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:47   love overall I mean just looking at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:48   of the reactions to all the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:50   beers that we've tried tonight you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:52   there are clearly very very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4432">TS</a>]

01:13:54   tastes and so it's nice that beer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:56   such a it's such a large tent that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:57   encompasses all these things if you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:59   beer if you like dark beer that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:01   and you don't like IPAs that's fine if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03   you do like loggers whatever you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:05   like it's it's great that there are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:06   the other is so much variety i think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:09   know that everybody can find something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:10   that they like when i'm not a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:12   Porter fan I like it alright get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:15   like it as an answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:16   well I like a dessert beer oh good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:19   oh no and i love i love Guinness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:23   straight from the tap picturing David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:26   had wandered yourself up underneath the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:28   tab eggs with hell yeah you know when am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:31   I in Ireland business you have third one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:33   hot cold and guinness as the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:34   friends right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:35   today they have a tap in all the rooms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:37   yet but this this is the third one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:39   would finish i would i would totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:41   finished this one yet this this actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:42   might be my favorite and I expected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:44   hate it because I when I saw like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:46   coconut flavored beer I'm like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:47   going to be terrible but it actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4487">TS</a>]

01:14:49   it's it's done very subtly it's done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:52   really with a lot of restraint and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:54   it's it is just like a little essence of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:57   coconut in an otherwise good porter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4497">TS</a>]

01:14:58   that is really not what i expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:00   invent a very I'm very pleasantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:01   surprised by it and i will get i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:03   get marco on my back for saying this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:05   I i'm not a coffee drinker but I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:08   coffee porters and there's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:09   something about the the character of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:11   coffee mixing with the character of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:13   porter it's it's a great i hate to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:15   word synergy but it is it's great to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:17   know what I mean Porter which is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:19   favorite beer style to you know the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:22   common flavors associated with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:24   coffee and chocolate chocolate and i I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:26   lean more toward the chocolate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:27   coffee although i had some very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:30   Coffee pours even though I don't drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:31   coffee either sometimes it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:33   they just literally poured out of coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:35   into the beer and it tastes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:37   drinking coffee and I don't love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:39   but sometimes it can be very good the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:41   coconut is unusual as a mixture with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:43   with it i see why they do it and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:46   don't think it's that subtle I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4546">TS</a>]

01:15:48   it's pretty dramatic but I'd but I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:50   you to try that cocoa Porter is way is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:52   for that store know and I'll I and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:54   bought this at bevmo i bought the Amalfi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4554">TS</a>]

01:15:57   coconut Porter before and and because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4557">TS</a>]

01:16:00   like it's the toasting of it that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:01   works though it doesn't taste like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4561">TS</a>]

01:16:04   co-hosting amazing it really works just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:06   as well we're 90 minutes and now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:11   perfect I hope your overcast is now set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:13   to hire centre is a knife is that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:17   real quick like an alcohol check is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:19   everybody feeling like pretty good right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:21   now pretty loose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:22   oh hell yeah occasionally standard right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:25   now most actually beyond repair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:28   I you know I love porters and I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:31   stouts I which are basically the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:33   thing but with different names this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4593">TS</a>]

01:16:35   me it's ok it's it's missing a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4595">TS</a>]

01:16:38   bit of bite i like i like a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:41   maybe a little bit mean I'm bitterness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:42   but you know your your oatmeal stouts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:45   and some of yours kind of American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:47   stouts have a bit more of a I guess I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:50   like a crunchiness to them this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:52   smoother this is closer to like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:53   guinness which is not my favorite but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:56   but it's very good i will say also major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:59   shout out to them to the left hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:01   brewing milk stout nitro yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:04   oh yes fantastic that is but like I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:07   was like us like as like you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4627">TS</a>]

01:17:09   teenager and young person and then once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:11   I found out this whole other world of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:13   stops menu which are better it would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:15   never found one that I really love is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:18   like a nice kind of like everyday go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4638">TS</a>]

01:17:20   until I found left hand milk stout nitro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:23   like that is I mean everyone without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4643">TS</a>]

01:17:25   nitros is also very good but the Nitro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:27   kind of makes it cooler it is so so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:30   as like a nice everyday replacement for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:32   guinness for people who like us before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:34   just try left hand milk stout it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:36   much better yeah i'm not a big fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:38   the Nitro personally for the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:39   reasons maybe it you're close enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:42   PA that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:42   have you ever run across Lancaster milk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:44   stout no I have you you you need to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:47   that most common be our song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:49   Pennsylvania was keystone light yellow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:52   one yelling oh no angle a little older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:55   he was too expensive when i was when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:57   was in college in pennsylvania things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4677">TS</a>]

01:17:59   like the reach this is skepticism I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:01   seeing in this room about the teenagers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:03   with their Guinness drinking but it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:05   just gonna let that go i get goodness I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4685">TS</a>]

01:18:08   is fine it's like the budweiser stats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:09   but it's fine it's fine but I i have i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:13   have Steve to thank for introducing me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4693">TS</a>]

01:18:16   to the milk stout oh my god so good so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:20   just you're going to say something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:21   stouts and porters also the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:22   difference is the inclusion of black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:26   malt which actually would add that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:28   replac malt is a lot of multi you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:31   actually take the house coughs oh it's d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:32   bittered and so you can add just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4712">TS</a>]

01:18:34   dark and some of that roast flavor but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:37   doubts will include multiple actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:38   has more of that charred bitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:40   character which is the main difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:42   and I think that's what your liking in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:44   their dad that does it and then nitro is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:48   really interesting in beer too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:50   so nitrogen that was invented by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:52   guinness specifically really to you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:56   was invented to cause it traditionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:57   that was like a hand pump so English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4737">TS</a>]

01:18:59   hand pump which is what we think of as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:01   like a scale so that would be beer that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:03   most of us would describe as warm and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:05   flat and so I the nitrogen actually it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4745">TS</a>]

01:19:10   sort of the ideas it really creates that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:12   and nitrogen gives it that really thick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:15   silky mouthfeel that's actually from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:17   nitrogen and then it actually suppresses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:19   a lot of flavors to which is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:21   reasons that last Guinness without like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:24   export Guinness vs guinness stout the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:27   nitrogen really suppresses a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:28   those flavors and gives you that rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:30   mouthfeel but the trade-off as you lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:32   a lot of the other flavor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:34   characteristics of the beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:35   see I feel that but when it comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4775">TS</a>]

01:19:38   porters of my favorite beer and i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:39   love coffee and the two of them together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4779">TS</a>]

01:19:41   I've had some good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:43   no coffee stout some coffee Porter's but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:45   honestly I feel like adding any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:48   extra coffee flavor to a beer this dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:51   kind of ruins the coffee elements of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:54   if that makes any sense so the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:56   the left hand milk stout with the Nitro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:58   and it tastes more like coffee then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4798">TS</a>]

01:20:00   I had an espresso porter in portland at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:02   one point and to me that mouth feel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:05   the rich flavor even if it suppresses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4805">TS</a>]

01:20:07   lot of those flavors is more important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:09   to me than adding actual coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:10   have you tried the BBC coffeehouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:13   Porter I that one is one that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:15   always enjoyed and found not I I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:17   like a good marriage between the coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:19   and beer flavors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:21   yes that's the one I had in Portland oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:23   yes like I mean as as possibly one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:26   the resident coffee nerves of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:27   and by yeah possibly i mean the guy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:31   wrote my own coffee i love coffee but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:35   have never had a coffee beer that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:36   wanted a second one of em well i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:39   is interesting also to note that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:40   people here who said they liked coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:43   flavored butters drink probably don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:45   drink coffee but yeah same here i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:47   coffee flavor i love coffee scent i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4847">TS</a>]

01:20:51   don't think i got fifty coffeepots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:52   Porter tastes like coffee smells rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:55   than my coffee tastes yeah he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4855">TS</a>]

01:20:57   agree with the thing I mean nobody asked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4857">TS</a>]

01:20:59   if I'm standard Alice again as with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:01   almost anything else if like the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:04   year that the stone coffee milk stout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:07   came out I didn't like it at all because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:09   the coffee was way up front and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:11   completely drowned out that the milk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:13   stout aspect to it and then last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4873">TS</a>]

01:21:16   dates i guess they changed their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:18   formulation every year the one that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:21   produced was really really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4881">TS</a>]

01:21:23   the coffee was sort of down a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:25   in the mix and the milk stout flavor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:28   kind of came in and it was almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:30   somebody poured some cream in a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:31   really good cup of coffee and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4891">TS</a>]

01:21:33   very very good so i would suggest that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:36   if you have not like those in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4896">TS</a>]

01:21:37   keep trying because you may find one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:39   that that works for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:41   well you know there are i was i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:43   described as a monster by a friend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4903">TS</a>]

01:21:45   other day for being with you like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4905">TS</a>]

01:21:47   things that are like eating like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:48   drinking a loaf of bread and they're at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:50   their dark and awful and that's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4910">TS</a>]

01:21:52   know so it's nice to know the way I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4912">TS</a>]

01:21:54   got some other fellow dark beer drinkers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:56   on to be fair you were smashing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4916">TS</a>]

01:21:58   Japanese town at the time too yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4918">TS</a>]

01:22:00   that's true i was just lumbering through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:01   it you are totally a monster to my a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:04   monster but i also like dark beer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:06   its fine there's nothing wrong with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:07   are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:09   we have we exhausted the beer selection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:11   that you chose is that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:12   that is all I mean people are welcome i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:14   just start over start you're single and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4934">TS</a>]

01:22:16   all right what I wanted to do was go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:18   around and uh I wanted to ask everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:21   to tell us what your favorite beer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:24   because i think that would be that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4944">TS</a>]

01:22:26   be a fun thing to do on a way out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:29   and actually two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:31   tell us what your favorite beer was of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4951">TS</a>]

01:22:33   the ones we tasted and what your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4953">TS</a>]

01:22:34   favorite beer in general is that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:37   would like well top you're getting none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:39   of that is you know what did you tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:43   what was your favorite of the five we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:44   tasted and what's your favorite all-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:46   beer or your favorite current beer i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:48   think i met today I'm going to give the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:50   nod to the allagash the allagash saison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:54   ah not so much because I loved it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4974">TS</a>]

01:22:57   because i love that the response we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4977">TS</a>]

01:22:59   from everybody that I really liked that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:02   I thought they did a really nice job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:04   you know it's that first beer and so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:05   got everyone's pallets woken up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:07   going and it was sort of cool to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:09   people come into this and you know see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:11   you know being you know I balls deep in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:15   the beer world I just assumed people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:16   know what some of the stuff is and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:18   you know I was sort of very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:19   reminded one saison that's a nonsense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/4999">TS</a>]

01:23:22   word that a lot of people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:24   understand but to that's a great beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:26   that we should get more people drinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:27   all the time but usually there's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:29   lot more beer styles out there that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:30   haven't tried so there's like several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:36   episodes here waiting to Jason I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:38   like your house I think I'll stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:40   yeah i got mattress you can get it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:43   here what's your favorite beer my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:45   favorite beer or vol which is a belgian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:48   beer brewed by is also a that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5028">TS</a>]

01:23:51   monastic beautiful view [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:52   yeah brewed by monks that's a beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:54   that's it's a bottle conditioned with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5034">TS</a>]

01:23:56   Brettanomyces which is one of those wild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:58   yeast we were talking about and what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:00   love about it is that it's a beer that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:02   completely alive so if you get it fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5042">TS</a>]

01:24:05   it tastes one way and then that wild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5045">TS</a>]

01:24:07   yeast and it actually continues to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5047">TS</a>]

01:24:09   evolve over time so you can age that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:11   beer for like a bottle glass of wine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5051">TS</a>]

01:24:13   intellectual a bottle of wine and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:15   will actually change over time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5055">TS</a>]

01:24:16   become more funky and tropical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5056">TS</a>]

01:24:19   and earthy and really really you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:22   expressive so it's a great example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:23   how beers alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5063">TS</a>]

01:24:24   is that unusual Jesse I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:26   most craft beers were had some ladies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:29   still floating around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:30   I most don't it depends on the beer some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:34   of the area's bottle conditioned the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:37   example actually sierra sierra nevada [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:39   pale is bottle conditioned in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:41   traditional way and but I almost I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5081">TS</a>]

01:24:45   think anything that we had today was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:47   bottle conditioned so all this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5087">TS</a>]

01:24:49   have been the carbonation we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5089">TS</a>]

01:24:51   added before when the bottle as opposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5091">TS</a>]

01:24:53   to being created in the bottle like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5093">TS</a>]

01:24:55   champagne most which one do you like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5095">TS</a>]

01:24:58   best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5098">TS</a>]

01:24:59   oh you know it's really difficult time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:02   I'm heavily into the logger the Coors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:05   Light he drank in the trunk of his car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:06   and I was gonna make some perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5106">TS</a>]

01:25:11   clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:12   I'm a very every man and so for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:16   have to be very careful because I i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5116">TS</a>]

01:25:18   i was born out of the blast furnace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:20   which was iron sit up here we go here ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:23   know and so I there-there's there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:26   things that are indicative of me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:28   are in my DNA that I cannot shake so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:33   know I have to lie and I'm also i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:35   a rich man I I can't afford all this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:38   if you were originally if you were what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:40   would happen if i were a radio dial you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:42   in a bit of a perfect world I I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5142">TS</a>]

01:25:45   honestly i would love to share a bottle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:48   of the sour performed a barrel they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5148">TS</a>]

01:25:51   all connected is yeah jessiebear five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:54   let me share that with my wife i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5154">TS</a>]

01:25:56   that you didn't bother to turn the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5156">TS</a>]

01:25:57   bottle to see what it says it just just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5157">TS</a>]

01:26:01   know your role Steve just bad off for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5161">TS</a>]

01:26:04   second that is my role model i know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5164">TS</a>]

01:26:06   is to harass people that's right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5166">TS</a>]

01:26:08   my butt them but maybe to actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:11   the coconut a highway Porter is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:15   favorite of the night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5175">TS</a>]

01:26:17   Wow of the night girly but i would share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:21   um i would share this hour with my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:23   and I think she would like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5183">TS</a>]

01:26:24   what's your favorite beer of all time an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:27   hour or right now whatever what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:28   woods with the beer that you think of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:29   like oh I love that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5189">TS</a>]

01:26:31   if I Iron City [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:33   right Wow Lauren what's your uh what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:36   what was your favorite that we had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5196">TS</a>]

01:26:37   make my favorites were the sour and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:40   cézanne yeah I far pick one comm don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:47   want to okay all right then we're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5207">TS</a>]

01:26:49   gonna call it a tie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5209">TS</a>]

01:26:50   sowards on what's your favorite beer ah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:52   I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5212">TS</a>]

01:26:55   yeah karl strauss red trolley oh yeah oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5215">TS</a>]

01:26:58   yeah and I coronado orange avenue with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5218">TS</a>]

01:27:03   represent yeah yeah they're beers and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5223">TS</a>]

01:27:07   had a really nice weekend consumer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5227">TS</a>]

01:27:09   walking around drinking a lot of beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5229">TS</a>]

01:27:11   and agreed from different places and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:13   they those were fantastic at those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:16   my favorite now that we can get them up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:17   in Northern California [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5237">TS</a>]

01:27:18   yeah that's that's a treat can I say my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5238">TS</a>]

01:27:21   least favorite beer ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5241">TS</a>]

01:27:22   yes mom one time I had a Bud Light Lime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5242">TS</a>]

01:27:27   10 we almost had had spit takes hear ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:35   want our head that was sad but like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5255">TS</a>]

01:27:39   i did not finish it it was bad I i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:42   offered it because there was nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5262">TS</a>]

01:27:44   else available and I asked these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5264">TS</a>]

01:27:45   20-somethings how is this and I said oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:48   it's great haha and they were wrong and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:52   it was terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5272">TS</a>]

01:27:53   have you tried their lime morita or as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:56   like to call it like Maria I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5276">TS</a>]

01:27:58   the same thing but it was before they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5278">TS</a>]

01:28:01   rebranded it because now they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:03   hundred different things and and i pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5283">TS</a>]

01:28:05   attention because I want to make sure I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:06   don't have it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5286">TS</a>]

01:28:07   look all i have to say is at least it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:10   wasn't but lighting clamato okay okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5290">TS</a>]

01:28:14   man no no really is Mother's ok by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:17   itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5297">TS</a>]

01:28:18   no no I make you know it you don't live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5298">TS</a>]

01:28:20   next to you don't like half a mile from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:22   Mexico you don't understand the joys of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5302">TS</a>]

01:28:24   chulada I really don't i really don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5304">TS</a>]

01:28:27   so I dan give me your verdicts what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5307">TS</a>]

01:28:30   your favorite that we had tonight I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5310">TS</a>]

01:28:32   think it's gonna have to be the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5312">TS</a>]

01:28:34   coconut Porter just because Porter's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:37   that I do love him and I'm gonna stay on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5317">TS</a>]

01:28:38   brand here although the logs was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:40   good in retrospect I think I might give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5320">TS</a>]

01:28:42   that a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5322">TS</a>]

01:28:43   yeah so the the coconut Porter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5323">TS</a>]

01:28:46   surprisingly good is because of its a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5326">TS</a>]

01:28:48   not overwhelming coconut flavor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5328">TS</a>]

01:28:51   what's your favorite beer you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:53   and I trying to find one just one to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:56   pick is pretty tough but I'm gonna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:58   to second marcos recommendation of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5338">TS</a>]

01:29:00   left hand milk stout that's good left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5340">TS</a>]

01:29:03   hand milk stout that's a good one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:04   Marco what was your favorite of the five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5344">TS</a>]

01:29:06   we tried so the one that I would be most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5346">TS</a>]

01:29:09   likely to buy a a 64 4-pack of and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5349">TS</a>]

01:29:12   keeping my fridge or bring somewhere for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:14   wide appeal is the allagash days on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5354">TS</a>]

01:29:17   is a happy surprise again I'd attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5357">TS</a>]

01:29:19   to begin had never had sex on before to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:21   my knowledge and this is great and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5361">TS</a>]

01:29:23   a nice kind of all around her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5363">TS</a>]

01:29:24   however if I had to pick only one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:27   these to finish tonight it would be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5367">TS</a>]

01:29:28   maui coconut Porter I i don't think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5368">TS</a>]

01:29:32   want a whole lot of them I wouldn't buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5372">TS</a>]

01:29:33   like a six-pack of them because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5373">TS</a>]

01:29:35   coconut flavor is kind of you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5375">TS</a>]

01:29:36   a one-off gimmick for me like I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5376">TS</a>]

01:29:39   want to hold ton of that all the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5379">TS</a>]

01:29:40   but it is really good for this one can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5380">TS</a>]

01:29:43   get marco was your favorite beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5383">TS</a>]

01:29:44   let me preface this by a US very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5384">TS</a>]

01:29:47   closing statement okay I'll allow it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:49   people ask me all the time because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5389">TS</a>]

01:29:50   because I'm the kind of nerd her roast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5390">TS</a>]

01:29:51   my own coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5391">TS</a>]

01:29:53   people ask me all the time why I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5393">TS</a>]

01:29:55   bring my own beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5395">TS</a>]

01:29:56   hey Marco why don't you bring your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5396">TS</a>]

01:29:58   beer tonight because there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5398">TS</a>]

01:30:02   amazing beer out there that like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5402">TS</a>]

01:30:04   reason I Irishman coffees I can't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5404">TS</a>]

01:30:06   good coffee near my house at that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5406">TS</a>]

01:30:09   there's a billion different kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5409">TS</a>]

01:30:10   beer out there and so many of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5410">TS</a>]

01:30:12   so great i will never be able to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5412">TS</a>]

01:30:14   them all so the whole it's worth a shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5414">TS</a>]

01:30:17   yeah so anyway among the ones I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5417">TS</a>]

01:30:19   so far which is only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5419">TS</a>]

01:30:21   very miniscule part of the beer world it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5421">TS</a>]

01:30:23   is a tough call between dogfish head 90 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5423">TS</a>]

01:30:25   minute IPA and Jimmy Graham reserve blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5425">TS</a>]

01:30:27   and while i can find no fault at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5427">TS</a>]

01:30:32   like it when you taste the dogfish head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5432">TS</a>]

01:30:34   90 minute IPA like there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5434">TS</a>]

01:30:35   there's nothing that I wish for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:37   from this period is it is perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:39   rounded in every way that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5439">TS</a>]

01:30:41   however if I had to pick one beer they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5441">TS</a>]

01:30:42   could have if i only have one beer is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5442">TS</a>]

01:30:44   life I'm a blue grama reserve went out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:47   of that is by far my number one beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5447">TS</a>]

01:30:49   it's so so good even though you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5449">TS</a>]

01:30:51   basically only have like one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5451">TS</a>]

01:30:52   before your sleep for the night but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5452">TS</a>]

01:30:54   is so good it's a happy sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5454">TS</a>]

01:30:57   David was your favorite tonight before i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5457">TS</a>]

01:30:59   say that i just want to say i love all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5459">TS</a>]

01:31:02   of our yeah we love you too you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5462">TS</a>]

01:31:07   what I'm not ready to commit right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5467">TS</a>]

01:31:09   did i will say i love the orange avenue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:15   wit but i love it partly because i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:18   able to drive across the bridge from San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5478">TS</a>]

01:31:20   Diego to the island with Steve singing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5480">TS</a>]

01:31:23   the Simon Simon Simon same yep i was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5483">TS</a>]

01:31:26   happy that day of tonight's beers i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:30   would have to go with the Almanac and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:33   the cézanne I don't know if I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:36   choose between them because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5496">TS</a>]

01:31:39   different they're different thing else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5499">TS</a>]

01:31:41   write essays on is a wandering eye deer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5501">TS</a>]

01:31:44   the almanac is a drinking with food beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:47   it turns out that everybody pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5507">TS</a>]

01:31:48   something and the cézanne when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:50   pick a tie that's right i think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:52   telling what's your favorite what's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5512">TS</a>]

01:31:54   favorite beer David when i when i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5514">TS</a>]

01:31:56   say i have finished three of the beers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:58   tonight but i'm alright yeah tell them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5518">TS</a>]

01:32:00   I'm on my way to finishing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:02   California lager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5522">TS</a>]

01:32:03   so you know pretty much the duet is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:06   only 1i am not finishing i'm confident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5526">TS</a>]

01:32:09   in saying that I of all time I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5529">TS</a>]

01:32:14   have to go with either raspberry lambic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5534">TS</a>]

01:32:17   or the shim I blue although the red the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:21   white are also quite excellent notion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:25   then right under that hoegaarden i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5545">TS</a>]

01:32:29   i love hoegaarden Steve what what what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5549">TS</a>]

01:32:32   your favorite tonight I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5552">TS</a>]

01:32:34   favorite tonight wow I you know i'd like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5554">TS</a>]

01:32:36   to say the coconut Porter but i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5556">TS</a>]

01:32:39   about done with that one right now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5559">TS</a>]

01:32:41   reached the point now where the coconut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5561">TS</a>]

01:32:43   is kind of taken over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5563">TS</a>]

01:32:44   exactly and so I'm going to eat it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:49   strange because porters are definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5569">TS</a>]

01:32:51   more my type of beer but I'm gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5571">TS</a>]

01:32:53   with a saison by itself no ties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:56   it's delicious i really like the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5576">TS</a>]

01:32:59   banana bread flavors and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5579">TS</a>]

01:33:00   little bit of pepper that sort of floats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5580">TS</a>]

01:33:01   in there and I think it's very very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:03   it reminds me a little of the witty more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5583">TS</a>]

01:33:06   on that we enjoyed quite oh yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:08   Oh while I resemble that remark mhm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5588">TS</a>]

01:33:11   well you know anymore and we're good see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5591">TS</a>]

01:33:14   what's your favorite all-time favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5594">TS</a>]

01:33:16   beer objectively the best beer of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5596">TS</a>]

01:33:18   time is a stone arrogant bastard ale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5598">TS</a>]

01:33:22   wow you know what did it's the closest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5602">TS</a>]

01:33:25   I've come to the sort of a hoity-toity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5605">TS</a>]

01:33:29   sort of thing that the wine snobs get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5609">TS</a>]

01:33:32   all up to where they you know they run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5612">TS</a>]

01:33:33   it across their palate mango wood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5613">TS</a>]

01:33:35   changes character over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5615">TS</a>]

01:33:37   fair enough Arrogant Bastard really does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5617">TS</a>]

01:33:39   i mean it's it's it has three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5619">TS</a>]

01:33:42   different characters to it and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5622">TS</a>]

01:33:43   evolves as you drink it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5623">TS</a>]

01:33:46   I don't you know generally drink a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:48   of it because it tends to get me into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5628">TS</a>]

01:33:49   trouble but alright Brian Brian what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5629">TS</a>]

01:33:54   your favorite with a massive massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5634">TS</a>]

01:33:56   shout-out to the Hawaiian to the maui [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5636">TS</a>]

01:34:00   coconut Porter Porter is using my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5640">TS</a>]

01:34:02   favorite genre of beer but uh as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5642">TS</a>]

01:34:05   delicious as that was tonight I am going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5645">TS</a>]

01:34:07   with the Almanac white label of the sour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5647">TS</a>]

01:34:09   flavor really really surprised me in how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:12   honestly delicious it was completely out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5652">TS</a>]

01:34:15   of left field but I feel like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5655">TS</a>]

01:34:16   sourness as i said before really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5656">TS</a>]

01:34:18   enhances the flavors in a way the IPAs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5658">TS</a>]

01:34:20   don't so I loved it and that's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5660">TS</a>]

01:34:23   I'm definitely get a six-pack of and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5663">TS</a>]

01:34:24   in addition to my don't think they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5664">TS</a>]

01:34:26   the six-pack of and it's just by six lbs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5666">TS</a>]

01:34:28   by six of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5668">TS</a>]

01:34:29   Jesse what jesse was keeping a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5669">TS</a>]

01:34:32   poker face their handprints his beard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5672">TS</a>]

01:34:34   Brian what's your favorite beer favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:36   beer of all time again with regards to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5676">TS</a>]

01:34:38   the left-hand nitro milk stout again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5678">TS</a>]

01:34:41   Porter's favorite genre / that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5681">TS</a>]

01:34:42   beer i have most of my refrigerator when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5682">TS</a>]

01:34:45   I can get it hell or high water man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5685">TS</a>]

01:34:48   and I tell ya every single other beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5688">TS</a>]

01:34:50   yeah and I have actually all of you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5690">TS</a>]

01:34:52   thank for that because i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:53   everybody talking about on twitter one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5693">TS</a>]

01:34:55   day when a Budweiser advertisement said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5695">TS</a>]

01:34:58   nobody likes that guy that brings a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5698">TS</a>]

01:35:00   watermelon wheat beer to the party and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5700">TS</a>]

01:35:02   everyone said what I love hell or high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5702">TS</a>]

01:35:04   water melon so i have to be at a bar at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5704">TS</a>]

01:35:07   the time where they had hell or high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5707">TS</a>]

01:35:08   water melon I had it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:09   favorite beer of all time I gotta throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5709">TS</a>]

01:35:11   a props up for 21st amendment for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5711">TS</a>]

01:35:14   their design sense because the reason i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5714">TS</a>]

01:35:16   picked up their beer yeah first place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5716">TS</a>]

01:35:18   was because they have the fancy cans in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5718">TS</a>]

01:35:23   the cans are really great for a variety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5723">TS</a>]

01:35:25   of reasons but largely because you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5725">TS</a>]

01:35:27   that much more surface area to put your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5727">TS</a>]

01:35:29   your label on and do interesting things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5729">TS</a>]

01:35:31   with the design and and all of that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5731">TS</a>]

01:35:34   then you can throw in a cool little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5734">TS</a>]

01:35:35   six-pack holder and do even different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5735">TS</a>]

01:35:36   things with that and they their masters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5736">TS</a>]

01:35:39   of it i mean i love the look of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5739">TS</a>]

01:35:41   their different beers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5741">TS</a>]

01:35:43   yeah like there are there are direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5743">TS</a>]

01:35:45   stuff dude jessie was saying it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5745">TS</a>]

01:35:47   doesn't necessarily think the hell or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5747">TS</a>]

01:35:48   high water melon is among the best it no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5748">TS</a>]

01:35:50   it's not their best but it's good i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5750">TS</a>]

01:35:53   it it's a light beer it's easy to drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5753">TS</a>]

01:35:55   its you can drink a whole lot of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5755">TS</a>]

01:35:57   drinkability without it that is that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5757">TS</a>]

01:36:00   important that Iron City feel to it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5760">TS</a>]

01:36:02   moze i really like the cézanne coconut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5762">TS</a>]

01:36:06   Porter wrist is fine and and it yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5766">TS</a>]

01:36:08   truth be told of all of them that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5768">TS</a>]

01:36:10   probably the one that i would i would go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5770">TS</a>]

01:36:11   back and buy just because it's Porter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5771">TS</a>]

01:36:14   and I like Porter's but I i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5774">TS</a>]

01:36:16   the cézanne I think saison that's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5776">TS</a>]

01:36:18   that flavor that like I said I find an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5778">TS</a>]

01:36:20   IPA is I think like there's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5780">TS</a>]

01:36:21   flavor in there but then there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5781">TS</a>]

01:36:23   this other stuff and a saison that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5783">TS</a>]

01:36:25   flavor so that's what I like so I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5785">TS</a>]

01:36:27   that one a lot my all-time I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5787">TS</a>]

01:36:29   give a shout-out honorable mention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5789">TS</a>]

01:36:31   the stone quadrata Kaylee which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5791">TS</a>]

01:36:34   while yet a Star Trek reference and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5794">TS</a>]

01:36:37   quadruple style in the Belgian style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5797">TS</a>]

01:36:41   like that one a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5801">TS</a>]

01:36:43   I the omagon from Cooperstown New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5803">TS</a>]

01:36:47   quadruple is similar Maga is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5807">TS</a>]

01:36:50   always because you just let it happen if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5810">TS</a>]

01:36:52   we had to be an incomparable up so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5812">TS</a>]

01:36:53   had to be uncomfortable episode i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5813">TS</a>]

01:36:55   events in Star Trek it was a great idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5815">TS</a>]

01:36:56   because they you know they used to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5816">TS</a>]

01:36:58   some triticale grain and they it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5818">TS</a>]

01:37:01   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5821">TS</a>]

01:37:01   quadruple style and the reason they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5821">TS</a>]

01:37:03   that is because they wanted to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5823">TS</a>]

01:37:04   Star Trek reference i love that about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5824">TS</a>]

01:37:05   them in reality my favorite beer used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5825">TS</a>]

01:37:07   be a sierra nevada Porter it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5827">TS</a>]

01:37:10   taste quite as good as it used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5830">TS</a>]

01:37:12   so i've switched to the deschutes black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5832">TS</a>]

01:37:14   butte porter which is widely available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5834">TS</a>]

01:37:16   and is a very good Porter is very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5836">TS</a>]

01:37:18   as that is very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5838">TS</a>]

01:37:19   I also really love the anchor porter but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5839">TS</a>]

01:37:22   i think the black butte porter is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5842">TS</a>]

01:37:23   probably like that's my go-to standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5843">TS</a>]

01:37:25   if I want to have a beer the black butte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5845">TS</a>]

01:37:28   porter is always gonna gonna treat me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5848">TS</a>]

01:37:30   right so and you can call it black but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5850">TS</a>]

01:37:31   border which is later when I buy it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5851">TS</a>]

01:37:33   the store often times i will get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5853">TS</a>]

01:37:35   sticker from the guy who's checking me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5855">TS</a>]

01:37:36   out at the story it because it gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5856">TS</a>]

01:37:38   black but the essay i think i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5858">TS</a>]

01:37:41   had the black butte porter for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5861">TS</a>]

01:37:43   time at your house Jason and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5863">TS</a>]

01:37:44   searched for it around here and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5864">TS</a>]

01:37:47   once or twice found it on tap at places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5867">TS</a>]

01:37:49   that you like a lot of beers but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5869">TS</a>]

01:37:51   it's hard to find story from Bangladesh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5871">TS</a>]

01:37:53   she was on a distribution deal because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5873">TS</a>]

01:37:54   they are all over the place and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5874">TS</a>]

01:37:56   western US they are available it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5876">TS</a>]

01:37:58   most commonly available porter at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5878">TS</a>]

01:37:59   point directly stories with you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5879">TS</a>]

01:38:01   love a brewery whose flagship beer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5881">TS</a>]

01:38:03   support is a porter right that never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5883">TS</a>]

01:38:05   happens we went to bend we went to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5885">TS</a>]

01:38:06   brewery and just that it's that moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5886">TS</a>]

01:38:08   of like finally a brewery that gets me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5888">TS</a>]

01:38:10   rock where have you been all right what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5890">TS</a>]

01:38:15   have we learned nothing that we drink a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5895">TS</a>]

01:38:17   lot of beer thing nothing we just drink [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5897">TS</a>]

01:38:20   some beer lots of things I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5900">TS</a>]

01:38:21   main lesson to take away here is that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5901">TS</a>]

01:38:23   should drink more beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5903">TS</a>]

01:38:24   uh-huh secondary adjust Jesse how do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5904">TS</a>]

01:38:28   do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5908">TS</a>]

01:38:28   how do we do I think we did great i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5908">TS</a>]

01:38:31   we drink we drink all the beer guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5911">TS</a>]

01:38:33   going my love as it may be to lure the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5913">TS</a>]

01:38:38   IPA so 545 yeah i mean this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5918">TS</a>]

01:38:43   nature of all beer podcast as we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5923">TS</a>]

01:38:46   steadily lose focus as we can't deeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5926">TS</a>]

01:38:48   into it i know this was awesome you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5928">TS</a>]

01:38:51   were all great tasters you know taste is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5931">TS</a>]

01:38:54   hugely subjective you know things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5934">TS</a>]

01:38:56   literally taste different to different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5936">TS</a>]

01:38:58   people and everyone has their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5938">TS</a>]

01:39:00   preferences and I felt like everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5940">TS</a>]

01:39:03   came in and with an open mind and tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5943">TS</a>]

01:39:05   new beers and I feel like everyone found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5945">TS</a>]

01:39:08   something they liked and everyone found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5948">TS</a>]

01:39:10   something they never want to put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5950">TS</a>]

01:39:12   their mouths [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5952">TS</a>]

01:39:12   then so he's uncovered we covered the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5952">TS</a>]

01:39:15   full-spectrum absolutely agree it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5955">TS</a>]

01:39:17   lot of fun I'm glad we did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5957">TS</a>]

01:39:19   I will have to yeah we'll have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:20   this again what do you think is next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5960">TS</a>]

01:39:22   yeah I think we're all meeting at marcos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5962">TS</a>]

01:39:23   house to homebrew right well thanks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5963">TS</a>]

01:39:28   everybody out there who didn't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5968">TS</a>]

01:39:29   beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5969">TS</a>]

01:39:30   I hope you have some beer and listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5970">TS</a>]

01:39:32   that's what you should do we have lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5972">TS</a>]

01:39:33   of episodes where people don't listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5973">TS</a>]

01:39:35   the podcast until they read the book or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5975">TS</a>]

01:39:37   they watch the movie so maybe everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5977">TS</a>]

01:39:39   out there went out and got these beers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5979">TS</a>]

01:39:41   and drank them and now its listing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5981">TS</a>]

01:39:42   which case you feel as good as we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5982">TS</a>]

01:39:44   shows a lot better now huh yeah shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5984">TS</a>]

01:39:47   that doesn't like award-winning way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5987">TS</a>]

01:39:49   anyway I would like to thank my guests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5989">TS</a>]

01:39:51   for being here and drinking beer with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5991">TS</a>]

01:39:52   it was a it was delightful brian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5992">TS</a>]

01:39:55   hamilton thank you thank you this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5995">TS</a>]

01:39:58   definitely the most fun I've had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5998">TS</a>]

01:39:59   podcast be very long time but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/5999">TS</a>]

01:40:01   write you up like it should be this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6001">TS</a>]

01:40:03   Steve let's thanks for being here at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6003">TS</a>]

01:40:04   Yankee basin and for you welcome but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6004">TS</a>]

01:40:09   actually i buy and pretty much in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6009">TS</a>]

01:40:11   element right now I know really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6011">TS</a>]

01:40:12   this is how you like that was great fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6012">TS</a>]

01:40:14   and hopefully we'll get a chance to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6014">TS</a>]

01:40:15   this again maybe with a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6015">TS</a>]

01:40:16   selection we just got back on some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6016">TS</a>]

01:40:18   person handed David Laura you drink all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6018">TS</a>]

01:40:25   five beers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6025">TS</a>]

01:40:26   thanks for still being awake today that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6026">TS</a>]

01:40:28   drug history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6028">TS</a>]

01:40:31   Marco Arment thank you for being on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6031">TS</a>]

01:40:37   uncomfortable and drinking some beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6037">TS</a>]

01:40:39   with us a five years in still not witty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6039">TS</a>]

01:40:41   witty enough that a beer pon we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6041">TS</a>]

01:40:46   laughed though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6046">TS</a>]

01:40:46   see look what you got it sorry it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6046">TS</a>]

01:40:48   punt Dan Morgan thank you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6048">TS</a>]

01:40:50   gonna go with no you're drunk but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6050">TS</a>]

01:40:52   true you guys are and for the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6052">TS</a>]

01:40:57   around the table here my wife Florence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6057">TS</a>]

01:40:59   no thank you so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6059">TS</a>]

01:41:00   you got to drink the beer and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6060">TS</a>]

01:41:01   have to say too much so congratulations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6061">TS</a>]

01:41:03   we'll play it that way to meet their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6063">TS</a>]

01:41:06   quota and now you have to be on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6066">TS</a>]

01:41:09   podcast until 2017 she's not even gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6069">TS</a>]

01:41:13   say goodbye she's just like Erica thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6073">TS</a>]

01:41:16   you most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6076">TS</a>]

01:41:19   thank you almost black oh no we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6079">TS</a>]

01:41:24   started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6084">TS</a>]

01:41:27   thank you so much Jason's house like was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6087">TS</a>]

01:41:30   that Iron City i heard it was a beer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6090">TS</a>]

01:41:33   that you don't have so there are stairs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6093">TS</a>]

01:41:35   that you do not know there are many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6095">TS</a>]

01:41:38   other beers you may not have yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6098">TS</a>]

01:41:40   that's right didn't I made the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6100">TS</a>]

01:41:42   reference but you cannot yet drink and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6102">TS</a>]

01:41:46   finally last but not least at all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6106">TS</a>]

01:41:48   fact most jesse friedman from Almanac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6108">TS</a>]

01:41:51   beer company in San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6111">TS</a>]

01:41:53   oh yeah so much for putting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6113">TS</a>]

01:41:54   together you that I just want to say i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6114">TS</a>]

01:41:57   love you Jessie I mean bear mind he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6117">TS</a>]

01:42:02   he's five beers in ok so just keep that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6122">TS</a>]

01:42:05   in mind admittedly he said that to all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6125">TS</a>]

01:42:07   of us earlier and in the interim he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:09   that to the coffee table and love you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6129">TS</a>]

01:42:14   podcasts just you've gotten you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6134">TS</a>]

01:42:17   gotten people drunk all over the country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6137">TS</a>]

01:42:19   thank you so I don't know why you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6139">TS</a>]

01:42:21   always do I know everything I can should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6141">TS</a>]

01:42:24   be like this right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6144">TS</a>]

01:42:25   I said that beers isn't steve always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6145">TS</a>]

01:42:27   like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6147">TS</a>]

01:42:28   pretty much all right well i hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:30   for those of you who didn't drink along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6150">TS</a>]

01:42:32   with us in this episode you lose it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6152">TS</a>]

01:42:35   at the very least I had some sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6155">TS</a>]

01:42:37   contact high from listening to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6157">TS</a>]

01:42:39   talking about all this beer and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6159">TS</a>]

01:42:41   that we say goodbye to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6161">TS</a>]

01:42:42   we're gonna drink some more beer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6162">TS</a>]

01:42:44   this is the end of the episode you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6164">TS</a>]

01:42:46   have to go home but you can't stay on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6166">TS</a>]

01:42:47   this podcast because it's over now being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6167">TS</a>]

01:42:50   comfortable tonight we will see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6170">TS</a>]

01:42:52   again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6172">TS</a>]

01:42:52   ya next time normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6172">TS</a>]

01:43:10   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMata59o/6190">TS</a>]