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welcome back everybody to the
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uncomfortable i'm your host Jason L in
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this episode we're going to be talking
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not one particular work but the
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phenomenon of being assigned reading for
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class things we liked things we really
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didn't like books the traumatized us
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perhaps the fact that the the entire
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story of of having reading assigned to
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you and reading it because you must
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instead of because you want to join me
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on this adventure I hope they did the
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reading mr. maybe two or three final
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point David Lawrence here hello hello
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Erica enzyme is also out there
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hello yeah but I did the reading yeah
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I'm good good I'm glad and from a
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far-off land actually closer than usual
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it's andy and Aiko hi Andy
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Erica did you have your pass me your
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mother what I'd read it may come on give
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me my lunch money today we're going to
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talk so assigned reading of the premise
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here is obviously you get you get
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assigned reading in class and there's
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the books that you love but you know
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there are also the books that you hate
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that drove you up the wall and into not
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that we want to go entirely negative
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here but I'll you know it's fun to talk
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about to talk about that stuff and
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classics and and they make you read that
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you that you didn't like or that you did
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like so we're going to start off David
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Lord do you have something you want to
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talk about a book that either displays
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your please use this is not a draft so
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much as a a parade
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why don't even know i just made that I
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like that already look see
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did you start off the parade of the
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Grand Marshal today I i was gonna say do
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do we do we serve you like the saturday
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night live episode and just invoke
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everyone gets catcher in the rye know
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that not everybody gets catcher in the
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rye how depends which category upid that
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well that should lead to some
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interesting discussion but you go ahead
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David well I'm since since i'm leading
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off and and if this were draft
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I wonder how many people I would trip up
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by picking a separate peace by john
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knowles which is I guess I guess a good
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alternate title for it would be whiney
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white privilege is what you
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oh god I still have flashbacks I've
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never read this tell me what this book
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and they're basically it's it's two boys
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at a prep school who develop an intense
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friendship and and tragedy strikes you
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know it's just it's already get the
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consumption and no one unfortunately
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unfortunat last but you know me and I
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just I wanted everyone in this book to
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die and i like that chapter 20 just go
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away leave me alone
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I mean I was not a fan of Catcher in the
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Rye but at least I could get through it
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but but this was the same year this was
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11th grade 11th grade honors english was
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brilliant because it was a separate
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peace catcher in the rye Macbeth
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I mean it was just sort of this parade
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of tragedy and depression and oh that
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but a separate piece was the worst of
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the lot
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it's it's like dead poets society except
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not as fun
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yelitza and I hate dead poets society
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ever heard of the device but I've never
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I've never read it so I i guess my guess
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we escaped from the Swede sweet i don't
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have to wait for the team taking don't
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don't do it don't do it separate peace
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they made a movie of that too apparently
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yes will be something yeah I have also
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heard of it but but never never read it
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that was not one of the ones we had to
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read this is I think but the most
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telling thing about if you do a Google
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search for a separate piece you know
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what comes up first
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oh not the wikipedia page not the amazon
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page what comes up first is the
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sparknotes wow so you are any
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CliffsNotes is the fifth so I yeah
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because you don't want to have to
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actually read this is if you can help it
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I think we should rank all of the the
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books that we talked about tonight based
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on what you know how many go down to
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just three i will i'm gonna be manning
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the browser interrupt your eggs let Andy
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and I could want you want you throw in a
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uh some assigned reading that you didn't
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like about that all that this was an
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easy one
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Ethan from I absolutely freaking aided
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this book and maybe admittedly it was
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partly because of the way that this book
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was being taught every single thing that
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could possibly have been symbolism this
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teacher wanted to understand that
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let's talk about the pickle dish today
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now it's not justice is that it's not
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just a pickle dish you have to
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understand that what the author med is
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for us to transform friends modify our
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feelings about this relationship to the
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pickle dish and I'm like I'm not I
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wasn't having it
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I i remember it was a landmark book for
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me and get class because it was the one
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where it's like I we did the sweetest
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Shakespeare couple years ago and i was
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with you all through that we did a whole
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bunch of series and other books i was
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with you i was willing to die I could
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sense what you wanted me to say on this
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test on this essay or in this class work
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and I gave it to you
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I draw the line at ethan frome because i
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read it and was just this drippy over
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rod overwritten doesn't ever get to the
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point story where instead of like Shh
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distance instead of putting something in
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the book that's materially interesting
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or put advances the plot this author
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wanted to put four pages on let's talk
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about the color now of the candy dish
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let's have a scene which their heads
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touch but almost touch and I'm but i
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believe that this was also the first one
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where I handed in the essay which I said
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this is I didn't say the word crap but I
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basically said this is just a badly
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written book that should be forgotten I
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don't know who Edith Wharton is I don't
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know she had a career before that or
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after that but I want no part of her guy
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said good day sir
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well to be fair uh full credit award me
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the eighth and from wikipedia page
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number one on google sparknotes number
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Nick so not quite as bad but again a
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sign of assigned reading you Andy
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it's funny I haven't read ethan frome
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but I've read some early American
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literature it's
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not with me this 1911 yeah this is a
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little more reason but it's uh I took an
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American classic English class I was a
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little minor in college and read a lot
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of early and and and modern English Lit
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at but american lit which obviously
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doesn't go as far back when I was a
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rough class realize it took a long time
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for American literature to kind of
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figure out what I wanted to be and uh
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you know even from home for instance
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good yeah yeah
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no seriously I i never read ethan frome
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but I did see the movie of the age of
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innocence and I hated that so I also
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give a thumbs down saying you in
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solidarity alright
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solid i'll I i enjoy where this is going
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this is like you just like our hands on
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our English teacher is happening at this
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is great Erica what you haven't heard
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back yet this is beautiful this is
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working out i'm going to get back a
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little farther and we speaking in my own
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life i'm going back to fifth grade
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wow that was yeah that was when they
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started assigning actual full books now
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they weren't super long novels like I
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assume ethan frome was but we had to
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wear a little book called or we had to
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read a little book called where the red
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fern grows they don't know if you guys
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were subjected to this but yeah it's
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it's a story that takes place was
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written in the sixties takes place in
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the Ozarks pot a little boy whose
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training his his two dogs two to go coon
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huntin yeah it's just there's this one
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scene in the book that I will always
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remember where his dad's he needs to
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catch a raccoon so that he can use the
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pail to train the dogs to go hunting and
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the way that they do that is they make a
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hole in a log and they put something
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shiny at the bottom of it and then found
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a bunch of of nails in so that they're
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basically spike sticking out in this
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whole so the raccoon comes up poor
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little guy reaches down into the hole to
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get the shiny thing grabs onto it and
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then when he makes a fist he can't pull
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his poor little pop back out because of
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all these nails and apparently raccoons
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don't like to let go once they grab
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something shiny
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I guess I can understand that around so
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you can they clubbed to death and it
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gets to use and is yeah and then of
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course the dogs die at the end of the
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book and it was just I hated it from
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beginning to end
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there's nothing good about that book
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I haven't read this either i'm feeling
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very good very good about my my uh my
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literary background and not having read
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these with whether it's from Blue Rose
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interestingly enough the sparknotes
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fifth in the google search for winter
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without maybe because it's not being
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used as much anymore because people have
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come to recognize that it's maybe not
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the nicest thing for 5th graders to be
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reading just guess
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yeah okay that's good that's good i I'm
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gonna go so i'm going to go to college
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for this one because this is my number 1
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i've got another one reserved for later
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but my number-one disliked book that was
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assigned to me in my last quarter of my
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five quarter long humanities course that
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everybody in my college had to take and
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I did really well in those classes i
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love them and then we got to the last
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quarter and I didn't like the professor
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and I didn't like the assigned reading
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most specifically gustave flaubert his
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debut novel you know what you love it
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you can't live without her
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Madame Bovary that went to buy your
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groans from people who read Madame
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Bovary we read it in French class
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I'm so I'm so sorry oh I'm so because
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it's bad it's bad many language folks it
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yeah so Madame Bovary has affairs you
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can because of anhui all the ennui on we
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the the set and it is endless and again
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I don't know and it's a short book it is
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relationship you have them beforehand
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how much you did for them either they
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remember exactly how snotty i was about
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saying like what am I going to get out
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of this even if it's something that you
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reading a book let anybody talk about
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then that that can change how you
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interact with a work not knowing knowing
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book you're not gonna be able to simply
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say I liked it or I didn't like it
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you're gonna have to say in
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meandering and here are the three
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there somebody in like you know a white
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whistle and giving you points on how
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mention that this is also one of the
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funniest jokes i find in mel brooks's
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episode that I don't like Madame Bovary
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don't like spam
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spam also an unpleasant memory from the
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things that would happen in these in
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these books but it was for me it was
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hate story of a different sort one of my
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lot of running hitter and
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youth I did not like the Red Badge of
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Courage I thought it was weirdly written
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didn't connect to it i thought his style
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was really annoying my love story here
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is that I really kind of love stephen
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crane's poetry and i'm not a big poetry
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person but i found a book of stephen
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to poetry i really like it a lot but Red
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like it was assigned because it's like
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well it's simple its American literature
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its civil war
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courage it fits checks on the boxes like
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yeah but it's really not very good
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it's I I mean I appreciate that it's a
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historical you know it's from somebody
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in the period writing about it but no no
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it's not good but and yellow stephen
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crane's poetry so that's my love my love
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him there were other there were other
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kids in my high school who had to read
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teacher but I I was not in a class that
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had to read that so I feel like I dodged
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a civil war bullet and the hidden chat
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room by the way is is celebrating now
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because I i have i have nailed his is a
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least favorite book of all time with the
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Red Badge of Courage so if I did that
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one for you
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i I II and III the youth friend Heather
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Heather and the other hitter in the
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other there's so much the ring and hit
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me in that book it is just visiting and
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deterring ya know we are our high school
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area no walls and you'd have your
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english and history period smashed
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together so sometimes you could do a
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giant group to period thing or you can
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just have your separate classes you know
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just depending on what was that week and
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so all of the books were you know tied
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to whatever we were doing in history
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oh yeah Red Badge of Courage presently
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men were running hither and thither and
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always be all the artillery booming
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forward rearward and on the flanks made
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jumble of ideas of direction i'm just
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looking for a hitter a better number two
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on google is sparknotes for Red Badge of
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Courage right after wikipedia says hi a
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high score of people who just want to
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know what the hell was in that book they
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don't want to read
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bit positive David you have something
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positive to say about assigned reading
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well I I'll do two at once ok there are
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only two books there are no rules here
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go ahead and i don't know let's let's
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just say you know because because our
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high school was a seven through 12 1 so
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surprised me
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one was to kill a mockingbird uh-huh
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the other was the great gatsby this is
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SB this is a book that with my wife and
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I have you know she hates it she hates
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everything about it she hates ok give
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you a wife a fist bump for me this time
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and also I don't like the story but i
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but i like his writing I like yeah I
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like some of his other stories better i
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love the Pat hobby stories about life in
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Hollywood
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I i went on a Fitzgerald bender after
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reading the great gatsby that Fitzgerald
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bender could also mean an actual bender
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but that you would be good name to move
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its to Fitzgerald bender i love getting
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babies and ghastly was on my list of
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ones that I was gonna I was going to
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bring up as a as as something that I
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liked III and yes you there is there is
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that aspect of the symbolism right over
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the eyes the eyes is teaching you know
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but but it means he's his style is great
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i really appreciated the pro-style of ya
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Fitzgerald and Gatsby and it was one of
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those moments of like I'm actually
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enjoying reading the assigned reading
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what is happening exactly
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absolutely absolutely correct and this
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the story i don't i don't know how much
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I like it but I just remember this
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reading I did
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I didn't have to read that in school I
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bread it later but just the words though
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and the way he's putting this together
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and I felt like I felt funny just now to
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like do a google search and look at the
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let the the lead you talk about great
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first pages that's because probably the
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greatest last page ever all i really
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feel the need to redo 3 flat 3
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paragraphs not even less for last 3 and
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as I SAT there brooding on the old
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unknown world I thought of Gatsby's
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wonder when he first picked up the green
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light at the end of Daisy's dock he had
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come a long way to this blue lon and the
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stream must have seemed so close that he
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could hardly fail to grasp but he did
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not know that was already behind him
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somewhere back in that vast obscurity
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beyond the city where the dark fields of
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the Republic rolled on under the night
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gets be believed in the green light the
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orgastic future that year after year
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recedes before us it eluded us then but
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that's no matter tomorrow we will run
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faster stretch out our arms farther and
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one fine morning so we beat on boats
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against the current borne back
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ceaselessly ceaselessly into the past
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and I can't think of many last pages i
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just re-read as haha i reread the great
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gatsby maybe once or twice a year
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because for those there maybe a dozen
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books that are just always on my iPad
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because of I'll have booked some new
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books i'm reading but I always maybe
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want to dip into an old one but i can't
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think without one where I just want to
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read that last couple pages over and
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over and over again it's intimate if
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you're a writer it is intimidating to
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see how good those words are wow i have
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i have gets beyond my my thumbs down
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list and hearing you read those
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paragraphs reminds me why beautiful like
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just it is not a stylet I mean it's just
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like you know some people like to talk
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just to hear the sound of their own
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voice I feel like he was writing just to
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hear the sound of his own words that is
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exactly what my wife said this morning
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alright she's like oh tell them i hated
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gets back okay what happened how many
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times have I have I read a
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science-fiction book where while my god
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that story is so intricate and the
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science is so clever
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but all my god put five words together
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that make any sort of music please just
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once this entire book and then the
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captain put paint on the ship but the
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pain was a different paint like oh for
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God's sake
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actually that's how I felt about doing
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love the story but I couldn't get past
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the press yeah can I can to do is I I so
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I like the pro style of Gatsby I totally
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I totally get where you're coming from
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but I Erica but I I do like it
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one of the things that I think struck me
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at reading gatsby assigned reading was
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the idea it i don't know who is the
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first book but it's solidified in me
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this and the fact that the narrator is
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Gatsby and his and his story that really
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perspective and seeing the the you know
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the i guess you could say most important
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character in the book is is seen from
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someone else's perspective i just i
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remember that really struck me at the
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time like oh you could do that you think
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that's a serious look at me just like
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they'll allow you to do that yeah I mean
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it's called the great gatsby but great
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there but the Great Gatsby himself is
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not the narrator there's a different guy
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who's a narrator is kind of like on the
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outside observing what's happening on a
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whoa oh you know it maybe maybe my
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biggest problem with it was just the
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fact that there were no wizards or
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dragons are spaceships or Reagan's
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helicopter that is true the is though
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the eyes it was almost called Trimalchio
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in West Egg which almost sounds like
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science fiction
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yeah that listed that would've well
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that's so bad
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ya know that cover could work for a
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bunch of science fiction stories though
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that's true that there was one of a
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handful of truly iconic book covers
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where you kind of can't publish this
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book without that cover so David did you
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turn you threw in to kill a mockingbird
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there is room to China which is I also
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really liked
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I you know I didn't want to read it was
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not something that was remotely
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interesting very few spaceships and that
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started skimming it because it's great
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need to be able to talk about in class
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writing was so good and you know maybe
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it could have been shorter i often feel
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that but I man he was just I couldn't
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put it down once i started actually
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reading it and I went back and read the
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parts that i had skimmed because like
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RNA i missed stuff so maybe I didn't
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read it in the right order but oh so
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where does where do i gets be and and to
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kill a mockingbird show up on her or
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what is it what's that website again I'd
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snoop snoop choose before so we'll call
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this the segment Erica now this segment
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is called snoop watch
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much for your great gatsby great gatsby
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number three on sparknotes number three
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wade and we're sorry scoop no luck for
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smooth for yash before you kill a
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mockingbird let's see where it ranks to
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kill a mockingbird number two number two
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through i guess the Gatsby that's it is
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longer totally scientific this this what
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we're doing here totally scientific he
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did you have a thing you would like to
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speak positively of that wasn't yeah I
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had to picked out of that for all these
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I really assiduously tried not to do a
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web search for what kind of books tend
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to be assigned in English class i can't
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remember stuff and I was i decided to
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keep quiet when erica was picking great
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expectations because a great
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expectations is on my positive list i
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have so many so many positive memories
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of this book and one of the reasons why
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I like it so much was the way that it
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had been written that this is designed
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to be episodic to try to get cheated by
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the next installment of this which kind
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of prevents an author from getting into
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the wait a minute i need to go back to
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chapter one and described the Rope again
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because i do I don't think they'll get
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their next when I say the word rope
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I actually mean dreams it'sit's
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but more than that but more than that
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let me tell you something about really
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great writing every time I'm like at a
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friend's house or I'm and i hope to bury
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a man hotel and the the soap that they
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give you is like heavily perfumed every
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single time I'm washing my hands and
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this perfume from the soap it's my face
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i always think of that scene from great
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expectations where Mr Jagger's the
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lawyer washing his hands every time he
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sees a client specifically with perfume
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so because it is such an evocative way
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that he described this the scenes within
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miss havesham's house with the moldering
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wedding cake on the table still set for
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her wedding party
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I just have such a crystal-clear image
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of what that place looked like and I'd
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have to it's actually been a number of
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years since the last time I read it I
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did read it once or twice since 10th
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grade or ninth grade wherever whenever I
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was supposed to read it but there it I'd
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just remember all of these evocative
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scenes that just got me so engrossed in
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this story that got me to the next one
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the next one that I just remember being
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a really pleasant experience it for a
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long it was a long book for for high
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school but I just remember just being a
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book that I quickly found myself reading
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just for pleasure just on that stack of
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books on my nightstand
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yes the I I couldn't get through Dickens
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I I kept trying and trying because it
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there I i was interested in a girl who
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loved Charles Dickens and you know and
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especially christmas carol i hated
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Christmas care
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oh yeah we're so up we were so upset
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that well no wait wait wait wait I hated
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it at the time it wasn't until Patrick
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Stewart's one man christmas carol that
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suddenly it came alive for me and I and
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and I really enjoy it because he does it
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straight from the text is it's not an
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adaptation it's not well actually
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actually it is he do have to prove that
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the game has ever hurt them
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it's trimmed but it's but he's not
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changing the words of the dialogue
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raining that all of the words are
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Dickens's words and if it was just
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lovely and i went back and read it with
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his voice in my head
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and and it was lovely and then I went
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back and said all right well maybe I'll
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try something that I still can't get
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through them but you're right hey we
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don't have to wait that's it we're not
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seeking a record here we everybody has
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their own views i think it's interesting
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when somebody like something that
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somebody else doesn't like because then
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we know why i was assigned yeah that's
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true i like some of these where we are
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baffled Erica do you have a thing you
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wanted to say nice things about yes i
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have i have so many nice things to say
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about a book that was it was assigned to
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us in seventh grade and everybody else
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hated this book with a passion except
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for me and my friend Mike to people who
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had been reading geeky stuff for many
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years already and that is Ursula K Le
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Guin's a wizard of Earthsea yes I had
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died never heard of it before but when i
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came home with that my parents were like
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oh my god you're reading Ursula K Le
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Guin you have the best teacher ever
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and I was like okay well this gives me
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hope so I cracked it open and it was
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just this amazing story of a boy wizard
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going away to wizard school and getting
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into a duel with a fellow wizard where
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he accidentally sort of cracks open the
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fabric of reality and let the shadow out
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and then has to deal with the fact of
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this shadow being in the world for the
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rest of his life until he can figure out
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how to how to handle that and it was
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just so many things that were up my
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alley but written in I mean it was it
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was a book that was I don't know if it
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was exactly aimed at at kids but it was
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it was very simple but it wasn't written
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like a kids book that was written at the
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time that i was reading it because this
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thing was was from 1968 so so much much
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older but it was it was it was like
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written as a kids book that didn't talk
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down to us and I think that was the
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problem that a lot of the other kids in
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my school had because some of them were
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the brightest bulbs and they struggled
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but man i just got totally wrapped up in
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it i immediately went out and made my
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parents get me the rest of the books in
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the series and have read the multiple
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times since then so I say a huge thanks
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to my seventh grade English teacher
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whose name I've forgotten but thanks
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anyway lady shmoop check by the way
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shmoop wins on this one fourth is a
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schmoo play
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to visit the best investment nobody i'm
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saying that right in the ship moop it's
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probably scoop anyways moving on what
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are the other ones above shmoop though
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everything else and ok and wikipedia
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yeah I I always loved her work i went
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every year we got to pick one book and
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just you know read whatever we wanted
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and report on it and you know you the
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teachers would just sort of read it and
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go yeah he read the book a and one year
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I picked her book always coming home
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which if you don't know it it's
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wonderful it's it's like it's not
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exactly a novel it's like part novel
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part anthropological study of this
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culture that and I have to get the quote
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right might be going to have lived a
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long long time from now in Northern
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California and it's lovely because
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because it's it's a great act of world
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mad world building where it you know
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she's presenting the culture and the
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science and and you know how they
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evolved and how their their society and
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it was lovely and afterwards the teacher
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came back to me like three months later
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and said you know I picked that book up
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because it sounded really interesting
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that's really good i went on that I had
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never read that one but but after
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reading those books i went on just a
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tarot reading all of her books i could
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get my hands on
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luckily there were quite a few in my
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parents basement already so many easy
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and then I actually get to meet her she
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came and did our reading at a little
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cafe bar that friend my parents owned in
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the fort atkinson Wisconsin of all
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places and and she was just delightful
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and lovely and she signed her books and
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it was it was a very exciting time for
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me as a youngster very nice my I haven't
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read percy left hand of darkness was my
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look when that i read which I don't
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think was assigned I don't think so but
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it's possible it was I don't think I
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don't think so though they're doing an
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adaptation of that on BBC radio right
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now I'm going to throw out at all so
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this is in you knew this was going to
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happen these are the things that are
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like just close enough to the science
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fiction genre that you latch onto it you
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say nothing
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yes i like that yes i will read that
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slaughterhouse five
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yeah I i really like kurt vonnegut I've
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read a lot of vonnegut not all but a lot
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I enjoy slaughterhouse-five a great deal
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um I may be my favorite of we-we-we red
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cat's cradle to which I don't which I
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find a little off-putting
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yeah but slaughterhouse-five is is just
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so great and and let's be honest here
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every movie or TV writer and probably a
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lot of novelists in the science fiction
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genre in the last 50 years have
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endlessly ripped off the conceit of
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slaughterhouse five people for their I
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mean it'sit's lake and you either do
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your christmas carol episode for you do
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your unstuck in time episode that choice
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is a dickens you're gonna get you choose
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or your shaman episode yeah that's true
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well then you throw that in there and i
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was going to say you could also it could
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also be your um I the the Christmas
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genre starts with a christmas carol but
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it goes off to it's a wonderful life
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which is solved itself kind of a spin on
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the Christmas carols so anyway sorry has
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five so great it is about world war two
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it is about the firebombing of Dresden
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it is also about strange aliens from
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planet travel family door and there and
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they view time differently and billy
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pilgrim becomes unstuck in time and the
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book is told in a in this kaleidoscopic
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time sequence which you know i guess
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i'll also put a Quentin Tarantino down
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on the list for like what we do the
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narrative anyway we can't we just picked
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up the times people figure it out maybe
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but it's but i really do i I you know it
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is i can appreciate this literature i
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can appreciate it as a great style and
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and also just as a really entertaining
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book entertaining ride so I like wanna
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get in general but that one in
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particular and there was that moment of
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like oh my god there's like time travel
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and aliens and stuff innocent and they
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made us read it what's the best how you
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you're lucky we didn't have to read any
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vonnegut although i was thinking about
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this when David was mentioning reading a
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book for fun to do but to also do a
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report on that he got to choose and I
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had a friend who had read breakfast of
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champions in ninth grade to do a book
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incredibly legend like little dramatic
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actually written like an Indiana Jones
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movie almost and so it it's it's aiight
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of books where I can just remember
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scenes just vividly playing out in my
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reading this I listen to me almost
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watching this book because he was just
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painting such deep deep pictures of
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worlds that I never even seen on
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television let alone you know about seen
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in a book so it's just you i think that
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your best experiences with books when
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you remember the emotional ride that you
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went through as you were reading or
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experiencing it and Jack London it
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really does deliver that for me
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yeah good great style from Jaclyn it's
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funny you say that the it's amazing that
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something this old could be this fun you
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know I think there's a tendency among
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people and including parents and
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teachers to think of the classics and
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have the classics mean something that
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does not necessarily mean that they're
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fun that and I think that's what I think
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that's fundamentally wrong i think there
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is that they're important they're good
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they're they're full of nutrients and
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minerals and vitamins and that's why
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we're going to teach my class and we we
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forget these were popped this was
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popular fiction at the time
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well and that and that some of the stuff
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that gets considered classic is like if
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it's fun it can't be classic and if it's
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classic that can't be fun and I think
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that's wrong
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my wife being a children's librarian
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there are there is a certain kind of
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parent who comes into the children's
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room and says I don't want my kids
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reading any of this modern popular fun
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only the classics and when they ask the
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classics like there are lots of really
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fun great classic things like older
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things they don't mean that they mean I
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want to give my kids really dry terrible
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stuff that is going to lie
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you know sue their brands i want to read
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while they're listening to the the
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classical music because i'm going to
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turn them into some sort of genius and
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its end and it's misguided but i think
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that happens with assigned reading in
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general is is if it's if it's too much
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fun then we're not going to bother so
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when you hit on something that works
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with you and if anyone is still old and
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considered a classic you have a moment
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like oh I didn't know that I didn't know
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they could do fun things back then the
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answer is yeah they can they just don't
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show you any of the fun things because
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they want to be very serious and show
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you the serious things and sometimes I
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think the pose and that the fun things
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are classics to and and I think people
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just are reluctant to to assign fun
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ya know you look let's let's not read
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Jules for in here read sister Carrie by
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theodore dreiser yeah that's good that's
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that's intelligent I and you have
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anymore that you're at the jera hold
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onto uh the only the only half one was
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text for nothing but because i think but
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i think we were where we had to read
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waiting for waiting for godot and I was
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indifferent towards it and for some
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reason there was some sort of a book
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that was never mentioned this text for
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nothing that Beckett had also written
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and I wasn't assigned to read it so i
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don't i don't include but i do want to
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mention that it was just the most fun it
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was one of the earliest experiences of
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seeing something that had actually been
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marked as great literature that was also
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great fun to read because it's basically
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he wrote like one run on sentence that
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goes on for pages and pages and pages
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and it makes no sense until i remember
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being there in my bedroom just like
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saying try as I would sometimes do if I
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couldn't really scan a sentence like
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reading it aloud and of course it was
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designed to be performed that way and
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suddenly you realize that you're in the
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mindset of this person whose mind is
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completely racing and cannot focus on
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one thing and he doesn't know what he's
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talking about until he actually works
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out for himself so that that would sort
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of be a half
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half of the qualification for this but
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texts or nothing by samuel beckett was
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another thing i remember reading
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associated with school and really enjoy
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yeah that's that's a lovely piece
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suddenly no no all once I couldn't I
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couldn't anymore i'd go through there's
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that there was a time when there was a
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time where i was actually kind of
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committed i want to see how much of this
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i can memorize because I just like the
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but I just like the idea of like pacing
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in my room suddenly know slowly but once
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I couldn't I just couldn't anymore and
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then sentence after sentence after
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sentence and then of course I started
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having other things to do with my time
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to memorize Beckett but you can't even
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imagine it
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yeah I waiting for godot drove me nuts
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and it wasn't until they read
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Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead
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which is basically waiting for godot in
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the middle of Hamlet yes and and then
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you know it's like well alright i prefer
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Rosencrantz but I so love the idea of
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Rhodes vs Rosencrantz and Guildenstern
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are dead it hooked me just how you know
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how like there's these two guys who had
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like one line
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how about an entire play based on them
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and i think was because i was also
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reading comic books at the time saying
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hey what's the story about these two
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great let's do a story about these two
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guys yeah Erica what do you have left
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I actually have quite a few because I
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sort of cheated right when i was first
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trying to think of about this I couldn't
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remember a whole lot so I went on
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facebook and you know just put out the
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call to anybody who went to my high
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school or elementary school to give me
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some help and actually I just most of
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the stuff they suggested were things
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that I hadn't tried because I different
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teachers but i'll start with a positive
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here so i'm actually in college this is
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when I did remember myself we read for
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comparative literature i read a hundred
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years of solitude which i loved i had
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never gotten so much out of a book
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before I think that was my first
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experience just sort of interacting with
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a text i'm on that sort of a cerebral
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level because before I just wanted to
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you know read about my spaceships and
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stuff so I was just angry so this one
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night that when I enjoyed another one
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then I like quite a bit was mythology by
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edith hamilton which was a very popular
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book about mythology it wasn't you know
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fictional except that you know myths are
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fictional
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I i had always been interested in Greek
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myths and stuff so so I quite like that
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i also have a catcher in the rye on my
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my plus list not like a huge thumbs up
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but what I quite enjoyed it i really
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like about your catcher in the rye and
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somebody was saying in the chatroom you
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gotta admit it's really pandering to
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high school students like yeah it's true
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it's true but that is one of those
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things were stylistically it's like oh
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yeah this is like I i actually am
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enjoying reading this story what was
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happening in here something signed it
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very much it was a it was 12th grade my
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senior year when we gotta sign that one
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and it is sort of be no playing to my
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disaffected use we're like we're in a
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bunch of his short stories then to so
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about the glass family stuff and I like
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that stuff to get some that sounds yeah
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I'm okay with I like that much better
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than rai I I reacted badly to that one
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it's not a reuben if it doesn't come on
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ride David that's right i like you could
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not let sandwich is our topic tonight
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what else what else are sorry to
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interrupt i just wanted to put in my
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word for catching there either
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no that's quite right my very very
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favorite I didn't put down all of the
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Shakespeare rewrite because we're ready
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tone of Shakespeare and i genuinely
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liked it all but the one that I adored
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the most was in 11th grade we read
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Hamlet and my teacher really really
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loved Hamlet and just he managed to
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convey that love to me and we watched I
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think three different versions of it
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bits and pieces that I could see kevin
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kline as Hamlet which was really cool
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we watched some of the mel gibson
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version which i still hate and put my
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favorite which is still to this day my
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favorite was the BBC added the BBC
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version starring derek jacobi that's
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have wonderful yeah this date my
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favorite i mean i remember in college at
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one point I took it out from the library
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and it's like it's like five hours long
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and my roommate was like are you insane
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and it was like that yes I am
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uh-huh one one of the things i always
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loved about the the kenneth branagh
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hamlet is that he cast derek jacobi has
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Claudia's yes and and when you watch the
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movie they look so similar and when they
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finally do a statue of Hamlet's father
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he looks nothing like kenneth branagh
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and it's it's just this very subtle
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threat of maybe
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Richard and Claudia's retaining the
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whole time which is a really neat spin
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the throw on that story
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oh so you know I when that movie came
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out I was super excited because i
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already had an audio version of Hamlet
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with kenneth branagh as Hamlet yes Derek
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Jacobi as Claudius and I thought he's
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Claudius was better in the audio version
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than it was in the film so I was a
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little disappointed by that film it so
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everybody what are your feelings about
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the david tennant patrick stewart BBC
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you know what I still have not I still
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not seeing you all know it
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there's a part of me that just I'm
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scared because I love him so much and I
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will handle it's good so much but good
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and their security cameras which is neat
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there's nothing to be scared of yeah no
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it's ok it's good i'll put my boy you
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should watch that sometime
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one of my friends was on a sabbatical in
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the UK actually when that when that was
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going if you got to go see alive and I
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think there's also still a little bit of
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me that's better than I didn't get to
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come and see it life is a husband of a
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friend did the light log pad did the
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lighting for it so she had to meet take
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attendance it's uh huh
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since since you mentioned I Hamlet I'm
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gonna I'm gonna throw out there yet you
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have more i'm assuming i do so i did
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that was on the positive stuff okay i
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want to bookmark this just for just for
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a second before we come back to that i
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want to i want to say Shakespeare is
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mr. mention now so in eighth grade for
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read the book I just I want to know what
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it was supposed to be and what did they
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wherever maybe I'd like it better if i
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do I get extra credit if I read the even
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mr. Snell you could read the book
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putting the VHS yourself
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