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251: Tea, Sandwiches, and Mushrooms

 

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00:00:23   surt192xlbp in comfortable number 251 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/23">TS</a>]

00:00:31   jun 2015 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/31">TS</a>]

00:00:36   welcome back everybody to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/36">TS</a>]

00:00:37   uncomfortable i'm your host Jason Steele [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39   we're reconvening our group of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41   who read all of the nebula nominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43   novels the novel's nominated by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/43">TS</a>]

00:00:45   science-fiction writers association for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/45">TS</a>]

00:00:48   best novel of the year last year there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/48">TS</a>]

00:00:50   were eight this year there are only six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/50">TS</a>]

00:00:53   so little less reading we're going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/53">TS</a>]

00:00:56   sort of i would say we're going to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/56">TS</a>]

00:00:58   to keep the spoilers not too heavy so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/58">TS</a>]

00:01:00   you should be able to listen to us talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/60">TS</a>]

00:01:01   about these novels and decide if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03   want to read them if you haven't already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/63">TS</a>]

00:01:04   so let me tell you who are panel is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/64">TS</a>]

00:01:07   as it was last year Scott McNulty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09   course I wouldn't do a book club without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11   him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/71">TS</a>]

00:01:11   hi Scott hello welcome back it's good to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/71">TS</a>]

00:01:14   be back I feel like I haven't been on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16   the uncomfortable and forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/76">TS</a>]

00:01:17   I know you too busy with your own stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19   you got stuff you're writing a book you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/79">TS</a>]

00:01:20   doing your own podcast or busy busy busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/80">TS</a>]

00:01:23   man but I missed you I missed you too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25   I'm glad we're here together yes also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27   joining us a Fred cash longtime listener [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/87">TS</a>]

00:01:29   returning guest you can hear him at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/89">TS</a>]

00:01:32   three horsemen podcast which is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34   spun out of SF signal hi Fred I there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/94">TS</a>]

00:01:37   and what to be decidedly is your I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   been listening since like episode 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41   something like that episode a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43   digits I think you've been around seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45   like just yesterday also out there Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/105">TS</a>]

00:01:48   lemur you may know him from the skippy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50   and fancy podcast which is how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/110">TS</a>]

00:01:52   co-host of and uh SF signal as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/112">TS</a>]

00:01:54   hi Paul hello Jason hello in copper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/114">TS</a>]

00:01:57   listeners I'm glad to be back welcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59   back and Sean Duke from skippy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/119">TS</a>]

00:02:02   vanity and the totally pretentious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04   podcast is also out there hi Sean hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/124">TS</a>]

00:02:07   I will be your resident curmudgeon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/127">TS</a>]

00:02:08   tonight well you can you have to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/128">TS</a>]

00:02:11   much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/131">TS</a>]

00:02:12   McNulty for that title but i will come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/132">TS</a>]

00:02:15   much the heck Adam okay good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17   I don't know about that these young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19   starts we're going to occur much your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21   budget together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   okay so we got we've got six novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/143">TS</a>]

00:02:27   nominations here actually by the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29   that this podcast is released i believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31   there will be a winner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/151">TS</a>]

00:02:31   yes yeah i'm only stupefied by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/151">TS</a>]

00:02:34   inclusion two of these books I have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/154">TS</a>]

00:02:36   idea why they were included the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/156">TS</a>]

00:02:37   pretty good one of these books is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/157">TS</a>]

00:02:40   sequel to a book that was on this list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/160">TS</a>]

00:02:42   last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   why don't we start there that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   ancillary sword by and lucky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/166">TS</a>]

00:02:49   sequel to ancillary justice you may have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   heard of it we've talked about it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/171">TS</a>]

00:02:52   like eight different episodes be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54   uncomfortable it was nominated for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/174">TS</a>]

00:02:55   pretty much won every award last year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/175">TS</a>]

00:02:57   this is the sequel and I was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/177">TS</a>]

00:03:00   refresh i read this a little while ago I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/180">TS</a>]

00:03:02   was trying to refresh my memory about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/182">TS</a>]

00:03:04   about what this book is because what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/184">TS</a>]

00:03:07   remember about is it's not what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/187">TS</a>]

00:03:08   expected the sequel ancillary justice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10   got this kind of broad canvas and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/190">TS</a>]

00:03:13   you get this character and their she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15   flashing back to previous parts of life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/195">TS</a>]

00:03:19   as a an AI on a starship and now she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/199">TS</a>]

00:03:22   on the run in theirs and there's a disk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/202">TS</a>]

00:03:25   in a cold planet that they're on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   then the end up getting on a ship and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/207">TS</a>]

00:03:29   going and attacking the Emperor of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/209">TS</a>]

00:03:31   of this the Star Empire and this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/211">TS</a>]

00:03:34   then I then I read a synopsis I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/214">TS</a>]

00:03:36   oh yeah this is the one where they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/216">TS</a>]

00:03:37   stranded on a space station and the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   the swimming pool leaks that's cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/219">TS</a>]

00:03:43   there's also a tea plantation yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/223">TS</a>]

00:03:46   we're trying important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48   there's a lot of tea there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/228">TS</a>]

00:03:49   tea drinking yes so god I I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/229">TS</a>]

00:03:52   to I my point is I was just shocked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/232">TS</a>]

00:03:56   what this book was because it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/236">TS</a>]

00:03:58   what I was not expecting i was expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/238">TS</a>]

00:03:59   more scope my god is that the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/239">TS</a>]

00:04:02   chapter of ancillary justice is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/242">TS</a>]

00:04:03   like and then we have a starship and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06   was the captain did the détente' I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/246">TS</a>]

00:04:09   really kind of expected them to go in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   that direction and I suppose it is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   there sort of sort of like a star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15   episode in some ways I liked it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17   a lot but it was it was it was quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/257">TS</a>]

00:04:20   change of pace from ancillary justice is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/260">TS</a>]

00:04:21   what i'm saying i didn't like it as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   as ancillary justice but I did think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25   was good i think she took a bold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27   decision and not just doing the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29   thing again and in fact I find parallels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/269">TS</a>]

00:04:32   with this and one that we will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34   talking about later the comet Empire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/274">TS</a>]

00:04:35   novel you know she she didn't do what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/275">TS</a>]

00:04:38   expected she examines in in-depth one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/278">TS</a>]

00:04:41   planet run by this organization and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/281">TS</a>]

00:04:45   the good and the bad of what happens so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/285">TS</a>]

00:04:49   I i get kept keep expel k once the shoe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/289">TS</a>]

00:04:52   gonna drop when the shooting started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54   never did never really started shooting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   but i did enjoy it because of the ATM [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/296">TS</a>]

00:05:00   death looks and altie so there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02   of tea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/302">TS</a>]

00:05:03   oh god what I did think it interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/303">TS</a>]

00:05:06   is you're right Fred that this book its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/306">TS</a>]

00:05:08   scale is much more subdued and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10   thought it was interesting that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12   she's being identified with what could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14   be called the new space opera movement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/314">TS</a>]

00:05:15   and yet with this book it's almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/315">TS</a>]

00:05:18   she's doing new planetary romance that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/318">TS</a>]

00:05:21   the kind of totally total different take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/321">TS</a>]

00:05:24   I think it does suffer a little bit from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/324">TS</a>]

00:05:26   Middle book itís which is a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/326">TS</a>]

00:05:29   that i think a lot of middle book suffer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/329">TS</a>]

00:05:32   from and it's hard to kind of escape it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/332">TS</a>]

00:05:33   also probably is suffering and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/333">TS</a>]

00:05:35   people's minds with the fact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/335">TS</a>]

00:05:36   first book basically won every award [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38   under the Sun including awards probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/338">TS</a>]

00:05:41   nobody's ever heard of the field and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/341">TS</a>]

00:05:44   I think no matter what people were going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/344">TS</a>]

00:05:46   to do when they came to this book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48   was going to be in the back of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/348">TS</a>]

00:05:49   minds and it was something that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/349">TS</a>]

00:05:50   talked to him like you that she was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/350">TS</a>]

00:05:53   so much concerned by but it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/353">TS</a>]

00:05:54   obviously something that you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/354">TS</a>]

00:05:56   think about i liked it though because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/356">TS</a>]

00:05:59   really love the in-depth sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01   cultural examination elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/361">TS</a>]

00:06:03   particularly like T so the fact there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/363">TS</a>]

00:06:06   lots of tea in it made me happy i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/366">TS</a>]

00:06:09   appreciate that they're actually tea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/369">TS</a>]

00:06:10   plantations and that was actually being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12   discussed on some level but i do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/372">TS</a>]

00:06:15   it's not quite as strong as ancillary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/375">TS</a>]

00:06:16   sword but still a good book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/376">TS</a>]

00:06:19   it's got I was gonna make a star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21   parallel just for you which is to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/381">TS</a>]

00:06:22   that I feel like I feel like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/382">TS</a>]

00:06:24   expecting if I was expecting something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/384">TS</a>]

00:06:26   after that last chapter i was expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/386">TS</a>]

00:06:28   Star Trek The Next Generation and I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   a little bit more deep space nine and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32   in a good way that this is this is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/392">TS</a>]

00:06:36   know the space station and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   particular story and I and I think also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/398">TS</a>]

00:06:41   interesting is there's this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43   question of what happens when this crew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/403">TS</a>]

00:06:44   and and the people on the station find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46   out who break is which happens and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/406">TS</a>]

00:06:49   and it's an issue right that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51   identity the identity of the first book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/411">TS</a>]

00:06:54   it's sort of about cultural reaction to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56   the identity of that character a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58   bit in the second book anyway how's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/418">TS</a>]

00:06:59   star trek parallel Scott I like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   good job Jason thank you how are you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/421">TS</a>]

00:07:04   I like I like ancillary sort as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06   although i read it a you know like eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08   months ago so who the hell knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/428">TS</a>]

00:07:11   happens in it but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   i I'm harmonics the pond dreams i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/433">TS</a>]

00:07:17   remember that i was reading the synopsis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/437">TS</a>]

00:07:18   on wikipedia and it all came back to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/438">TS</a>]

00:07:22   in a good way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/442">TS</a>]

00:07:23   I mean it's very different outlet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   I'll just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/445">TS</a>]

00:07:26   echo what everyone else said it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/446">TS</a>]

00:07:27   obviously very different than ancillary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/447">TS</a>]

00:07:30   justice which is a good thing i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/450">TS</a>]

00:07:31   and it's interesting so she she painted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/451">TS</a>]

00:07:34   this kind of broad picture of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/454">TS</a>]

00:07:37   universe and now she is playing in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/457">TS</a>]

00:07:41   particular part of it and giving us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/461">TS</a>]

00:07:42   little more detail about something so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/462">TS</a>]

00:07:45   thought it was nice i don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   should win the nebula but I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/467">TS</a>]

00:07:49   was a good book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/469">TS</a>]

00:07:50   stop the metaphor i have for this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   this is this book is a tea ceremony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54   after the big exploding of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   novel we have big giant space opera the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/476">TS</a>]

00:07:59   first time in this novel we have a tea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/479">TS</a>]

00:08:02   ceremony a quiet almost a pause it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04   I mean most middle books try to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06   bigger batter larger this did the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/486">TS</a>]

00:08:10   opposite and giving us this small story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/490">TS</a>]

00:08:13   of a planet and a and its space station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/493">TS</a>]

00:08:16   and there are hints that the aliens are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   going to do something but you don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/498">TS</a>]

00:08:19   anything and it's all very quiet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/499">TS</a>]

00:08:22   subdued in character and character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24   focused it is it's it's a tea ceremony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   as middle novel i'm not quite sure it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/506">TS</a>]

00:08:29   completely succeeded it's certainly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/509">TS</a>]

00:08:32   as incandescent as in summary justice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/512">TS</a>]

00:08:35   was for me but I liked it well enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37   because she was trying to do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39   completely different than most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41   try to do in the middle novels which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/521">TS</a>]

00:08:42   give it recorded for one of the things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/522">TS</a>]

00:08:45   like about ancillary justice is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/525">TS</a>]

00:08:49   way she kind of takes the this trope the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/529">TS</a>]

00:08:52   space opera troupe of Star Empire's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   right hey star in person who doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/534">TS</a>]

00:08:55   like a good start Empire and says well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/535">TS</a>]

00:08:57   what do we know about empires on earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   which is that the people they are built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01   on the backs of people who are quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   unfortunate and are treated incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05   badly in order to build an empire and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/545">TS</a>]

00:09:08   that's something that does extend to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10   this book and I the thing I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12   perhaps rather than the swimming pool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   leaking but the pond licking the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/554">TS</a>]

00:09:15   remember the most is the scenes on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/555">TS</a>]

00:09:17   planet where we see the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/557">TS</a>]

00:09:20   working on the tee and it's part of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   being a minority group that's being the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/562">TS</a>]

00:09:25   being oppressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/565">TS</a>]

00:09:26   and I think I I very clearly remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/566">TS</a>]

00:09:29   the kid liked the character like goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/569">TS</a>]

00:09:30   for a run or something like well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   shouldn't be out anywhere and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/572">TS</a>]

00:09:35   making trouble of finding information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/575">TS</a>]

00:09:36   about who these people are and what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   going on that the plantation and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   really enjoyed that continuation of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/580">TS</a>]

00:09:43   of this approach that she's got to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45   taking the ratch Empire and all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/585">TS</a>]

00:09:48   like I all of the connections to it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/588">TS</a>]

00:09:51   how they're all they're all they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/591">TS</a>]

00:09:54   complicit in this kind of awful system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/594">TS</a>]

00:09:57   of empire that that she's in an inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   of I think that was a that was in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01   book too and I really like that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/601">TS</a>]

00:10:03   are other good things like when the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/603">TS</a>]

00:10:06   in Chancellery from the other ship gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/606">TS</a>]

00:10:09   injured at the captain can understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/609">TS</a>]

00:10:12   the doctor can't understand why she's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/612">TS</a>]

00:10:15   concerned about trying to get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17   no spare part fixed night Saigon just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/617">TS</a>]

00:10:20   let her die doesn't ever get used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22   an ancillary yourself she's like a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24   maybe there's potential for another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/624">TS</a>]

00:10:27   person here there's that and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29   just the attitude of the the owners of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/629">TS</a>]

00:10:31   the plantation towards a everybody they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/631">TS</a>]

00:10:34   even the little situations where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   they come up to the station to try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/636">TS</a>]

00:10:39   start fixing things and the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/639">TS</a>]

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00:10:58   first book is very much like it's a star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/658">TS</a>]

00:11:00   empire and their duplicate copies of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   Emperor and the feuding with each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/662">TS</a>]

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00:11:07   going to happen next and in this book it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/667">TS</a>]

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00:11:12   and in all break in the action there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   some things going on in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   but this is not that scope this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/676">TS</a>]

00:11:19   about it in you know it is it is touched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/679">TS</a>]

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00:11:26   Emperor's and do whatever this is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/686">TS</a>]

00:11:28   much like we're gonna pause at this at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/688">TS</a>]

00:11:31   this planet this is it it at one point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   felt like it was almost like a Lois Lois [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/693">TS</a>]

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00:11:43   about this planet that is just that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   and that's okay it just took me by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   surprise but but it was good it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/707">TS</a>]

00:11:50   incandescent at like like ancillary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/710">TS</a>]

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00:12:41   insulated there's a bubbly part at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/761">TS</a>]

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00:13:02   simple syrup kit it's getting to be iced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   tea time here it's summertime the simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/784">TS</a>]

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00:13:12   in the sugar you put in the water you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/792">TS</a>]

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00:13:16   great for sweetening cocktails great for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/796">TS</a>]

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00:13:20   for that it's got this amazing spout it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22   is a drip-free spout is the best spout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/802">TS</a>]

00:13:25   that i have ever used for something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   this and i tried to make my own simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29   syrup get a few years ago it was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   a disaster so that the need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/811">TS</a>]

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00:13:35   it yet the cosmonaut is a wide grip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/815">TS</a>]

00:13:38   stylist that focuses on feel it is super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/818">TS</a>]

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00:13:42   ipad it is this guy i hate pens and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/822">TS</a>]

00:13:45   pencils [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/825">TS</a>]

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00:13:59   any standard tripod the it's got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/839">TS</a>]

00:14:02   it's got the universal tripod thread on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/842">TS</a>]

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00:15:01   think you know if it is johnny the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/901">TS</a>]

00:15:04   adventures of Johnny square jaw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/904">TS</a>]

00:15:05   I mean Kane Reardon now the that one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/905">TS</a>]

00:15:09   also nominated for the nebula yeah was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/909">TS</a>]

00:15:12   it okay so we need to talk about it we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/912">TS</a>]

00:15:14   arrived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/914">TS</a>]

00:15:14   well its back trial by fire so might my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/914">TS</a>]

00:15:18   memory of fire with fire the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/918">TS</a>]

00:15:21   was i I think I said it felt like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23   33 totally different novels in one where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/923">TS</a>]

00:15:26   we sort of like adventure on a planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   discovered something interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/928">TS</a>]

00:15:30   then it was go meet new aliens and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/930">TS</a>]

00:15:33   finders place in the world and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/933">TS</a>]

00:15:34   last third of was like a conspiracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   thriller as the humans try to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/936">TS</a>]

00:15:39   what to do at this book is less a less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/939">TS</a>]

00:15:44   of a multiple-choice kind of novel than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/944">TS</a>]

00:15:47   then that was it still a no it'sit's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/947">TS</a>]

00:15:50   a-a-and military action adventure story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/950">TS</a>]

00:15:56   about what which I didn't expect talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/956">TS</a>]

00:15:58   about sequels that that lead me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/958">TS</a>]

00:16:01   places that I didn't expect I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/961">TS</a>]

00:16:02   expect after all the diplomacy of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/962">TS</a>]

00:16:06   fire with fire I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/966">TS</a>]

00:16:07   not expect a straight-up alien invasion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09   novel but that's basically what trial by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   fire is and too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13   it'sit's minutes more military SF in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15   space opera television i was like i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/975">TS</a>]

00:16:18   surprised how much pain is offstage in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/978">TS</a>]

00:16:21   this novel I wasn't expecting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23   yeah he goes away for a while yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25   mean we get to do we get to see Trevor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   an old Boland true whenever he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   offstage everyone's like where is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   let's talk about him K&I miss Kane i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/991">TS</a>]

00:16:36   hope i can simply quene one day that gee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38   I wish you were in this city doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   love interests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42   uh-huh so there i mean it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:45   everybody knows it which I found really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:46   amusing like the two women I guess kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:49   of know at least one of them know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51   interested for obvious reasons and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:52   the other could nose and then they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54   like nine other people who know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56   they know or don't know where they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:57   know which one knows which of detail of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1017">TS</a>]

00:17:00   the romance and so there's lots of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:02   discussion because they all know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:03   detailed that's important to Cain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   other people so I a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:08   complicated but uh yeah kind of it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:11   worked i guess that part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:13   this book was dumb oh boy oh boy haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:18   all good experience god yeah yeah I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:21   didn't like the first one I thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:25   okay i thought this one was also ok but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:29   I I don't like the character I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:32   that the aliens are kind of stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:35   I ice i read the whole book so i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:38   i didn't stop reading it but I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:41   feel like I felt I with my life was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:44   enriched by reading this book a I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:49   know I don't know I don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:50   this is one of the one of the two books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52   that i am confused as to why it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:54   nominated for a nebula I guess maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:56   people just like mr. cat and but uh or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1076">TS</a>]

00:18:00   dr. Gannon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02   I don't get it lowered again into you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:05   haha space Lord cash for what it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:09   competent at what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:10   hi prey is well its military SF yeah he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:15   spells on numbers and letters correctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   it's it's it essentially adventurer SF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:21   in a military setting it's me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23   I think it has more link with with space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:25   after that is military SF but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   kind of me and my weird definition so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:30   the first book felt very space opera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:31   like and this one has moments of space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:34   opera but the the series actually that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   reminded me the most an idea i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   close to being well-read in military SF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:41   but it did remind me of John John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:42   birmingham so acts of time which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:46   about that that 21st century naval fleet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:49   that goes back and change the course of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:50   the Second World War [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52   alright and i enjoyed those books a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54   i enjoyed them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:55   I I feel like there's a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:56   social clash and a little more I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:59   there's some interesting things in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:00   books that I felt were not as much in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:03   this book but but I you know the fact is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:06   there are long descriptions in this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   of like how various kinds of ammunition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10   work in zero gravity that I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:13   care about I don't the nuts-and-bolts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   stuff just passes right over me and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:18   know I get that some people just love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:20   that but it's just not those kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22   mechanics of he's detailing like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:25   the weapons are that are made up and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   they work and like how the physics works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29   and all that that's the stuff that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:30   rolls over me I did I can I liked it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32   lot better when we had these characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34   doing things I thought the whole stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   of everything happening on the island of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   Java and the local population [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:39   interacting with the people who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:41   being kind of smuggled in in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43   make the attack I thought that stuff was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45   pretty interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:46   I thought the alien stuff was was ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:49   like the idea that the aliens are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:52   using earth as a as a it's just part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:56   a larger game and they're all trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:57   play each other and so although it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   very different from the first novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:00   actually what we see in the convocation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:02   and the first novel is kinda boring out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04   here they're just playing it with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:06   planet which is kind of I think kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08   interesting although you can I mean like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:09   I figured out what the plot twist was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11   about how about who one of the alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   races was a very early hon I was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:16   well that's what the answer is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:17   what's happening here but you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:20   can Reardon is just a little bit too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   much of a Johnny square job for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:23   feel like I'm not sure I felt like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25   had any depth is sort of good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:26   everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:27   and you know everybody loves him and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:31   know it's like I like a hero but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:32   like the perfect amazing superhero guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:36   forgive me for bringing bringing them up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   in this context Jason but it's out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:41   the fence to charles to charles or his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   book but this is this feels to me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46   the kind of novel a good example of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:49   good and well written example kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   novel the said puppies want to promote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:54   it's better than some of the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:56   wound up on the hugo bout thanks that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58   puppy's rabbit puppies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1258">TS</a>]

00:20:59   this is much better than most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:01   stuff that they tried to push but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03   that same sort of spirit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:06   yeah well I mean it is a it although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08   it's funny because I i get the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:09   like beam and militaries SF has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:12   definitely a more conservative kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:15   tint to it and that's fine but when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:19   read trial by fire I think there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   really interesting kind of subversive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:22   things in it i mean you could read trial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24   by fire as being about because it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:27   is more advanced people who have their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29   own politics coming to a less advanced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31   planet and stomping on it in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:34   it's very hard for me not to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:37   this and say I think he's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:38   making parallels to imperialism on earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:42   and an advanced and rich countries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:46   fighting proxy wars in poor countries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:48   except in this case we have to look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:51   earth as the poor country which kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:52   puts you in the place of all the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:55   being stomped on by rich countries in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:58   you know in our in our actual world so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   actually find found at many moments I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:03   was like this is kind of subversive I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05   wonder if people who love military SF [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07   who might be a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:08   conservative are going to read that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:12   not like it or let it go or what because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   it was actually doesn't it does not seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16   like proselytizing and like a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:19   conservative piece of politics in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:23   book at all it to me I the way I read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   was it was much more sneaky than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:28   nuance yeah yeah yeah i mean that is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:31   of the things I really did enjoy about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:32   this book is again and does attempt to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:35   kind of explore the really messy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:37   political and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   and in some cases physical elements of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:42   actually invading another country while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:45   also trying desperately to argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:48   philosophically that it's not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:49   invasion which is an imperialist idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:53   that yeah we're not actually invading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:54   you were showing up and we're here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:57   help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:57   we're here to help yeah right these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59   just military advisers we set them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:02   we'll do everything we can to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:05   avoid admitting that what's happening is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07   an invasion and there are a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:08   conversations with with Cain and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:13   the aliens the name of which I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:14   forgotten but one of the bug monkey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   creatures where he within the buggy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:20   creatures basically saying like no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:21   we're not invading you've completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:22   misinterpreted what's happening and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:23   we're all going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:24   no he's interpreted exactly what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:27   happening you have propped up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:28   hey they koo you know and and supported [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:32   this guy and it's an invasion that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34   what exactly is this happened here for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:37   reasons that are never fully review at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:38   least not up to that point or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   revealed to everybody else so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   humanity doesn't really know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:43   hell is going on and you expect them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   just kind of like oh we're just be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   with this is all gonna be good we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:48   just gonna have tea and crumpets later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50   on it'll be great i love those elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:53   although I will admit that i agree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:56   you Jason that some of the descriptions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58   stuff felt a little as you know Bob wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:01   to me haha kind of three characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:03   describing details and maybe that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:06   audience specific thing I don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:09   that's something that I personally don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:11   like them either a couple moments in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   book where I was like okay you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15   need to explain the plan to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:16   just do it right well the John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   birmingham stuff which I again is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20   my more recent exposures to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:22   military SF is similar in that way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   we're always like wow I really love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26   when you're talking about what a 1940's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:27   person would react how they would react [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29   to an ipad but then when you detail like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:32   you know the way that the turbines are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34   used on these 20 you know 2020 era jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:37   fighters I just my eyes glaze over and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:40   think maybe that's just it's part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   package is that you know that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   like affect the tom clancy right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46   yeah yeahs Houston i used to thumb pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:49   those two and then when i read time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:50   playing yeah okay I get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:53   invitation it's certainly to some degree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:56   it's an audience thing and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:59   that's partly why but sometimes I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:02   bounced hard off of this book I overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:04   enjoy that was a lot of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:06   that's not necessarily we look for when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:08   it comes to like I'm nominating a novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10   I don't look just strictly for fun I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   look for a little more than that but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:15   the same time that mean there were there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17   moments are as like this book could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:18   like 200 pages shorter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   oh yeah that is for sure if it felt it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:23   felt very long at points that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   just again we're doing because I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27   like we were on the wheel of like let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:28   go to all the characters and let's see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30   them again and let's see them again that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:31   was like there was there were way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:32   many spins at the wheel where I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:34   like are we wait you know we're waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   for that plan to go into it into action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   and we're still waiting and we're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   waiting and Scott mentioned that earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   it it's too long i did the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44   subversive thing by the way the in here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:46   is that the the only people on earth who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48   are really collaborating with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   invaders or corporations I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:51   was also an interesting thing that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:53   yeah if you want to read it that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   that he's saying the government's are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:57   trying to protect the Earth and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:58   corporation's just turn tail because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1558">TS</a>]

00:25:59   they figure they can become more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01   profitable deal with the aliens that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:03   interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:04   yeah it that felt less hammering me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:08   the head then another book that's on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   list that was talking about political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12   stuff that fog I was being smacked in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:15   the face a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:16   this one didn't do that despite the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18   that it should have given that it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:21   blatant like corporations involved like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:24   there's evil they are they're not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:26   good people and all ultimately wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:28   their bank loan armies yeah but I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:31   felt like I was being like like he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   bashing a political point into my head I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35   just felt like no we're just dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:36   with very unsavory characters yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:39   you know at the same time they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   sometimes will make arguments that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   trying to support and prop up their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   ideas like completely oblivious to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   fact that you know they're insane but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:51   you know I don't know it it's fun book i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:54   enjoyed it just a little long and needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   to be cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:57   i I didn't think it was too long I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:58   I went through it like him about two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:01   days and now I enjoyed it so I'm the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:05   emerging here on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:06   I think the positive margin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:10   yeah something like that anymore about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:13   trial by fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:14   I you know I felt that last last time we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16   did this we talked about about game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:19   I felt like we came across maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:22   little more negatively than intended you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   know Scott didn't like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:25   we will be clear about that I I'd love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:28   it but I you know but I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:32   okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:32   I you know I i didn't i didn't love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:35   parts of it i liked i felt like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   world is really interesting and a end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:41   I've read alien invasion novels that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:44   liked better and you know again this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:47   this book was not as much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49   exploring the world until like the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:50   couple of chapters as it was about lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:54   of military units fighting and that read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   less interesting to me then that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   the last book was his sponsor break time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:01   again i want to tell you about mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:02   route i use mail route has been using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:03   her out for a couple of years mail route [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   is a service that sits between your mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:07   server and the big bad internet and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09   it does is it filters out spam viruses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11   and bounced emails not only do you not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13   see them they don't get to your server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15   they stay away from your server if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:18   get a lot of spam if you're running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:19   around mail server it can actually slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:21   down your server because you're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23   in all of this extra junk mail some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   spammer somewhere is feeding mail at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   your server this happen to me not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29   long ago and then when mail route gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:32   in the way you know what that stuff goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:33   away mail route takes the punishment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:35   they take that stuff in they take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37   good stuff and pass it on to your mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:40   server and then they keep the bad stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   and if there's something in there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44   turns out it isn't bad then mail route [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   will send you a little note saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:47   here's all the stuff that i found that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:50   think is bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:51   1-click in that email and that mail is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:54   delivered and that person is whitelisted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:56   and they'll never be filtered out again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:57   it doesn't happen that often but when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   does it's a really easy feature you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01   don't have to set up any hardware you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:03   have to set up any software all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05   happens in the cloud mail route does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07   work there and delivers clean mail to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   your inbox large organizations like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   universities and corporations rely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   mail route it's easy to use from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   perspective of being a desktop user and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:16   if you're an email admin RIT pro they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   built tools with you in mind there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:20   p i4 account management support for ldap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   an active directory TLS male bagging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:25   outbound relay everything you'd want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   from people who handle your mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:28   there's a risk-free trial you don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30   have to put a credit card down you sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:31   up point the MX record of your domain at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:34   mail route so that they can take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:35   punishment for you your mailbox and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   hardware completely protected because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   it's a risk-free trial there's no reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   not to try it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:42   everybody listens to the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   can receive ten percent off of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:45   lifetime of your account go to mail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   route dotnet / smell right now that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:50   mail route dotnet / smell and thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:53   to my route for sponsoring the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:54   incomparable alright let's move on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:57   about the three-body problem this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:58   Chinese novel translated into english by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:03   award winner winner can lu it wildly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:09   popular in china and and then brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:12   over to the english-speaking world in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   this translation it was a lot a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:17   stuff I did not expect the the opens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   with the Cultural Revolution which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   probably a period of history that we in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:24   America do not understand at all or know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:26   anything about so that was a wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:28   thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:28   yeah and then just the second half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:31   the novel where you get into the virtual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:34   reality in the the the computer game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:38   I mean there's just some scenes that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:39   just jaw-dropping Lee amazing like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:42   computer meat out of living beat the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:45   whole yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:46   yeah you know assembling in themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   and in the you know I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:51   exciting a game this would be because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   just seemed to be undergoing not much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:57   action but just some of the stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1857">TS</a>]

00:31:00   they depict in this book is amazing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02   then the third part which is when we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:04   into what's going on behind the scenes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:08   lot of exposition but again a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:10   interesting story and I'm look I'm I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:12   like can't wait for the second book to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14   come out it came across from me as it as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:17   a weird fusion of Gregory Benford and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:21   isaac asimov I mean I am I felt a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:25   bit like Timescape but the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   weren't quite as they're much more as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:30   movie and much more ideas in the light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32   the in science and philosophy the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:36   and everything because revolution must [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:38   warn you about the cultural revolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:39   forwarding this book I knew from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   movie the red violin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42   don't judge me ah so that's why did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:46   heard a little bit i'll so but yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:51   mean the characters weren't there by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:52   just say it's like the working out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:55   working out of everything was and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   is route some real beauty and can look I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1917">TS</a>]

00:32:00   mean can lose translation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:03   pitch-perfect this is like he should he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:07   should be translating more Chinese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:08   novels clearly if this if this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:11   he can do given a given full given full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:13   length stuff to work out the keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   translating sequel though which is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17   of disappointing now he's doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:18   third and that was only because he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   working on his own novel that's alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   just get timed out that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24   yeah and and this does didn't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:27   his own now I've ride up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:29   I've read his I've right out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:31   Great Sea Kings in feel like grace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:32   King so it's not like he wrote we wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:34   the book thank God well but but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:37   clearly ready rendered Oh lose pros into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:41   very very good English and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:44   I mean I i could look it may be up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:49   some very apparent to me that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:50   the list came out 1980 you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52   probably sweep all the words without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:54   question now I think I want more little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:57   more from from characters and I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   that's an interesting thing to say Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:02   M [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:05   I didn't have an issue with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:08   characters i thought i thought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:09   characters were fine i mean sometimes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:11   felt a little thin but I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13   because it's dealing with so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:14   high-concept elements but overall I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:18   really love this and i love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20   included footnotes to explain stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22   I know nothing about because they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24   teach anything about the cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:25   revolution in high school they may have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   mentioned it but they certainly didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   teach it so when things are happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   and there are references to things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:32   I know nothing about it was really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:34   to have the context available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:36   I also really love that this book messed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38   with narrative style a lot it jumps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:42   between various kinds of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:43   throughout the book huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   sometimes even John residents itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   which I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:50   mostly because that's the kind of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52   that really appeals to me a lot when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54   comes on her novels is anything that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:55   kind of messing with the traditions as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:58   it were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2038">TS</a>]

00:33:59   now granted this is coming out of China [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01   so I don't know what the literary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:02   traditions in China are which means i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:06   don't understand what from a literary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:08   perspective it may be playing against or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:10   with so I'm interpreting that from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:13   completely American perspective which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:14   could be totally wrong but all that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:18   found really enjoyable I love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:19   concept i found it very bewildering the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:23   beginning because it's so embedded in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   the cultural revolution and I'm thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   i was reading science fiction novel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29   what was going on but once it started to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31   really clarify what was happening it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33   made a lot of sense and I just overall I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:36   think it's probably one of the strongest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:37   novels of the lot and is I think Paul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:41   you may be kind of right that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43   maybe if this was came earlier it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45   have been more of a sweeping kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   ordeal however I i would not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   surprised if this picked up one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51   major SF awards not would be surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   either idea i've been especially because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:56   it's because because it is giving us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:59   window into chinese science fiction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   that alone is a good thing above the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:04   merits of the book itself Scott what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:06   what's your take on the three-body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:07   problem I i enjoyed it i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:12   I like that it is a non-western book so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:15   this is I think probably the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   Chinese science fiction book I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19   read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:20   and so it was interesting to have a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:23   different perspective on kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:26   sci-fi tropes so it was a fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:29   from that perspective and I like books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31   that make me feel a little alien to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:37   book that makes any sense so it's from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39   such a different cultural perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:40   that was you you know different than my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:44   own so I feel like the other as I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:48   reading it which is always an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:49   interesting experience and i liked it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52   mean i didn't think you know compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   American science fiction is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56   clunky but that's just a personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2156">TS</a>]

00:36:00   opinion I I thought was very good and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:03   think it deserved to be nominated i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:04   not sure if it's going to win who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:05   but I like thumbs up for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:09   Scott is the one that you said it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11   barely science fiction until the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:13   yes if thats remember your comment as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:17   was reading about the cultural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:18   revolution and thinking huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:19   Scott I see what Scott was saying now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21   although i really like the stuff about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:23   the cultural revolution because I too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   had no no idea and and so that was fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:28   like like like several of you have said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30   it was it was it's fun to see something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:32   in it from a different cultures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:33   perspective and about things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35   don't get you know taught here not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:38   understanding just the level of violence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:41   and upheaval that happened and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:44   watching this one character kind of end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46   up in a very strange place because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:49   what happens to her and her father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:51   during the Cultural Revolution I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53   that was all really interesting and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:56   kept wondering okay what where is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:58   going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2218">TS</a>]

00:36:59   and then we get to the we get to the but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:02   some there's some stuff in here that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:03   just really bizarre the I felt I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:06   almost like like Stephen King kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:10   things there Dean Koons kind of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:13   where they where the person is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15   driven the scientist is driven almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:16   mad by the fact that suddenly there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:19   account down happening in his vision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:22   wherever he looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:23   you're such a bizarre kind of like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:26   could that exists and must be going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   crazy but he sees it everywhere and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30   just thought like wow I'm now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32   almost like i'm reading a horror novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:34   here and I don't know how this is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:37   get paid off and you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:38   in the end it is explained which I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:41   believed there would be an explanation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43   for that and it was and it is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:45   explain the virtual reality stuff I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2265">TS</a>]

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00:44:52   there's always a spaceship accident and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:54   there's somebody who is revealed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56   the villain who hold somebody at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:57   gunpoint and they're almost like I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:59   the they're off almost a form like romeo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:03   yeah there is a formula it's adventurous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:06   his world building is interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:08   they're fun and I really enjoyed reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:10   those books so now i see that coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:12   home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:13   the latest Alex Benedict book has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15   nominated for a nebula lord I so I get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:18   to read for this podcast I didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20   know it was out so I go and I read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22   and I think to myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:23   really this is the one you nominate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:24   because it's I think it's the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   interesting of any of the books of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   that i've read so that's my that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:31   take is I actually like this author and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:32   I like this series and it's comforting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:35   and it's not great art but i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37   this one's even like among his best let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:40   alone art in any way I didn't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:44   why is the series is called the Alex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46   Benedict series right in this book he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:48   hardly appears at all and she chases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:51   chases the chronicler of the adventures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:53   of Alex Benedict and so chases the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55   narrator chase kolpath is the narrator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   realities can can I ask a question for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   those that have read all the other books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:01   it is this just like clive cussler Dirk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:04   Pitt but in space kind of oh I mean I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:07   be honest and say that I when I picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:10   Alex Benedict I sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12   a pictures at Brannigan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:17   oh uh in my mind that sort of who i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:21   picturing he's a you know not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:24   dashing hero but yeah I mean that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:27   what these that's what these are is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29   faster than light travel adventures to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:32   in his case he's he's yeah you could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34   that I mean he's supposed to be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36   an Indiana Jones because he's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:37   archaeologist who is finding but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   finds relics and sells them instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   like turning them into the museum so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   he's got that kind of questionable you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   know is he really on the side of good or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   not or is he just a mercenary but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:51   know that you place them on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:52   interesting situations and it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:54   very it can be very interesting but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56   alex is sidelined for a lot of this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:59   it's just yeah it was it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01   interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:01   it's not that interesting book and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03   saying that is somebody who likes jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05   mcdevitt so I'm a little baffled for by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:07   why this is getting honors I am really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:10   baffled that you just said that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12   characters in this book is kinda like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14   Indiana Jones which is possibly the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:17   false statement of my occupied by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:20   occupation right i mean literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   geologist he is an archaeologist he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   looks for relics that's like saying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:27   you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:27   ER doctors are just like Grey's Anatomy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:29   yeah you on that they are did their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:34   doctors doctors the doctors that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:38   it's just well no I really didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   this book if it's unclear what yet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:44   it feels it feels a little bit like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:45   is the i think one of the problems I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:47   have with it is i feel like this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:48   resolution of a plot arc for him which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50   is at long last he's been with his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:53   missing uncle has been there for all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55   this time of like Oh his uncle died as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57   uncle disappeared in this thing and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59   in the last book I didn't first book he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:01   disappears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:01   yeah that's right yeah and so so you end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:04   up with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:05   oh and then they figure out what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:06   happening and then there's a ghost ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   and then this one they like all right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:09   think we can solve it and they bring him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:11   back but it it sort of feels like more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:14   of a capstone to a story arc then a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   story and you know what I love about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:19   these books as they end up in really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:21   weird you know they end up in really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23   weird planets somewhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   some alien you know or lost human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27   culture and and i find that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29   fascinating and hear what the one thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   that I would say is really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33   about this book as opposed to his other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:34   books is that he shied away from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   earth and here the earth is the Lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:39   Planet they go to earth and and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   most thing that will stick with me from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   these books is the fact that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:46   people in the far future have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   essentially no concept of life in in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:52   time or even like a thousand years after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   our time that that even though we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:57   well met you know now we're never going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59   to be ancient history we are our time is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:01   completely lost to these people and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03   thought that was kind of interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:04   making worth the loss planet but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06   much less you know you know if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:09   like literally a boat accident this park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:12   your boat a book quoted quote accident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   it was not it was not an accident very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   yes i was going to say it's very Murder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   She Wrote Scott but I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:20   insult Murder She Wrote that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:21   don't belittle mercy no no but his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:24   partner mystery kind of stuff out at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:26   that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:27   yes they're there is a formula I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29   great driver had a bunch of jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   mcdevitt hours i met jack is very nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:34   this doesn't feel like one of his better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   outspending now be perfectly honest i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:39   mean i mean i can see the forms i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   see what he's doing but it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:44   he's done better than this I know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:45   pretty this Jack why don't why did this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:48   would get nominate I don't know but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:51   mean I I would i have to say i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53   say this is probably the weakest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:56   nebula nominees for me i'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:59   it's a bad book but it's just not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   not so does it look I'm yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:03   oh it's a bad but yeah I'm gonna agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:07   and I like I said I like Devin read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09   books in this series i think this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   weakest of all the nominees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   it's sad because I do like him in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:14   general of all the of all the books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:16   have chosen and I don't think it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:19   me analyze the good under a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:21   light because I got nominated because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:22   didn't really enjoy it and I i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   enjoy reading the McDevitt books the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:27   kind of books i read on vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:28   especially if I'm like on or near a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:29   beach and I really enjoy them it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:32   it's just fun and it's a fifth fastest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:35   reading it's an adventure and this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:36   was just more like a slug and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37   interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:38   too bad but what do you think fried well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:41   i mean i think this is at wondering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:44   whether he's gonna reboot the series but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46   the next one was ending the series for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   this night but not the uncles back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   yeah i mean it's it's not like i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:53   agree it's not the best book I like his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:54   books overall i did enjoy a lot of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   in the whole mystery of where where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:59   Apollo Landers in all the stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:02   going on I mean all the books it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:04   a fibber mcgee book or a John McDonald [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:07   book I mean this you know they don't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:08   start off with a opening chapter which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:11   you're like will eventually tie into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13   rest and there's always a lot of digging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:16   in libraries and stuff and travel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:19   sandwiches and sandwiches I anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:21   department but no t we should say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:24   that he did win the nebula for seeker in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   2005 which is the third book in the alex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   bennett series that was expected that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   was a much better part of this violates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:33   like half of all of my rules of bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:35   novel writing one is involved a prologue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:38   that references a story that is more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   interesting than the actual novel haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   heart is this dark age that occurs which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:45   was like why you tell that story i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:46   like when the earth went to crap that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   sounds so exciting but your it's of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:50   course told by a lady at the uncle or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:52   whatever you just tell us that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:53   telling this kid he's like hey let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55   take this to her in the moon base and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:56   like we'll have sandwiches and talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:58   about interesting stuff that happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:00   us and it's like well that sounds much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:01   more interesting but then we get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:02   actual story and about 50 pages in us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:05   like this is not going very quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:08   about what is the story and so I scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:13   forward you know it's like okay well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:15   let's let's figure out maybe some crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:16   stuff happens later right like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:18   some big plot twist happens MIT from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   book and so we'll get some crazy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:21   in the end like I don't know crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   aliens with like lasers on their heads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   show up for something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:26   nope that's not what happens we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28   basically what is a 350-page story that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30   should have been like a 70-page novella [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:33   yeah I can i I can't argue with that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:37   can tell you what I think I think check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:38   David does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:39   he's a feel-good kind of writer somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41   wants to write the story about the dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:42   ages he just wants to have it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   because these books are very comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:45   they're all about people eating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:47   sandwiches and going to restaurants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:50   and going on going to the beach and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:53   fly in their little you know auto-drive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   little space pods that fly them places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:58   or you know two different cities and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:00   it's like a travel log it's super like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02   it's like or just creature comforts for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:05   everybody it is a magical place the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07   future the far future and i also found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:10   like the central concept like all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:12   characters say repeatedly there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   mysteries left to solve we're so bored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   we've solved everything but then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:17   have this huge central mystery of why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19   the ship's keep falling and disappearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:21   and no one knows how to figure it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23   it's very confusing now that didn't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25   didn't buy that for a second like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27   serious like you had a prologue where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:28   you announce a mystery you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   happened to the Landers where they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:33   there's a mystery you don't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:34   answer to that question clearly and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:37   come on they cannot have got like 10,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:38   years in the future we can have got to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   point where humanity is like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:41   there's nothing else for us to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:42   out so we're all bored now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:45   are you serious are you serious you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:48   figured everything out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:50   no I'm not mmm no not buying it so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:54   just didn't like this book yeah no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   comment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:56   sean is passionate feel like I hear you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:59   I hear you're just so bored I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   inclined and I'm inclined to like his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03   stuff and like I said it's like a warm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05   it's like a warm blanket it's just all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07   its just cozy to read them and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   like here it's just not some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11   oh well maybe next time jack mcdevitt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:12   maybe hope so next time i was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:15   looking forward to that one and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:16   just almost made me cry entire ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:20   alright let's talk we got two left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:25   let's talk about annihilation by jeff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:27   vandermeer yes i think first you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:30   first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:31   yes that's right the seven times yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:34   Fred well it is short which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   really interesting i was reading it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:37   thinking wow this was really moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   along and I was watching on my kindle i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41   was watching the percentage going up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:42   going wow this is this is not a thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:45   page novel thank goodness i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:48   it's three it's 18 thousand page novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:51   broken into three parts and this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53   first part me he wrote this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:56   he had a he got sick and had this weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:58   dream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00   so he started writing it down as a novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:03   and this is what came out and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:04   kind of white I mean maybe this is why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:06   people don't like it but this is why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:07   do like it it feels like a dream to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09   and it all the good ways and basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:14   what happened is in sometime in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:17   something weird happened in the u.s. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:19   probably in florida and seal Sean off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:23   behind a a place called the southern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25   reach where weird things happen and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:27   government keeps sending expeditions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29   into trying to figure out what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31   on this expedition you have four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:34   characters none of which use their names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:37   are only known by the professions they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:40   go in and basically as soon as they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   into this via the area reacts things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:45   start going weird people die people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:48   transform strange creatures are seen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:52   strange buildings are explored so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:55   more a mood thing it's a you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57   getting a characterization out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:58   you're not hardly even get a story but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:01   you're just going to get this very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:02   strange feeling like a dream which for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:05   some authors like polo or Lovecraft or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:09   van Vogt excelled in this sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   and I kind of enjoy that because of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13   line I totally agree i love this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:16   uh I thought it was great i also think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:19   it would be so I was talking to one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:21   my friends about this book and about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23   this podcast and how I thought that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25   book was the best-written of the three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:28   like the writing is just beautiful its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31   atmospheric but the plot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:34   inconsequential the characters are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36   inconsequential and I can understand how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:39   that would drive people crazy and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41   hate this book because if you're reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:45   it for a plot and characters you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:46   going to be like what the hell that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:48   just read this makes no sense and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50   angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:51   but and that's why I don't think if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:54   could wave a magic wand and award the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:57   nebula just something i would not give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:59   its to annihilation because i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01   the nebula award like shows up on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:04   cover and someone who's sci-fi curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:07   will pick it up and then they will read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:08   this book and possibly never read any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:10   science between over again and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:13   want that to happen so a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15   straightforward story would probably be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:16   better suited to win the nebula but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18   if I had to pick the one that I love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20   most to win i would i would pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22   annihilation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   well this might be I mean if the hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26   last year they gave what they nominated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:29   the wheel time because they have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:30   obscure rule about series this might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:33   have been the case where they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:34   have done that with this because all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:35   three books came out last year in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:38   trilogy and are now out and under one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40   set of covers and each 18 it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:43   interesting how he changed the approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   for each book and it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:47   interesting experiment for the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:48   thing and maybe that should have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50   the denomination of course we would've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:53   been reading a what that's 1,800 what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:56   yeah but I would be okay with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58   because Jeff and Amir is he's a genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:02   I've been a fan of his Sin City Saints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   and madmen meter which is also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:07   beautiful book not a short book but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:08   deservedly a long book and also has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:11   fruiting bodies mushrooms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:13   yeah it if family or is extremely weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:17   author and that makes sense given all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   the anthologies on weird stuff he's done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   it's clear that that's where he's at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23   home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:24   we're just kind of ripping apart reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26   a little bit and that's part of why i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:28   love about annihilation not least that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:30   it's you know what part of it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32   short and so it it's nice that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:35   a 10,000 page novel so I could I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:37   really push through it but it's his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:39   prose is really crisp and his ideas are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:43   just like the further you get into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   book it's like going into a madhouse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:48   i love that I love that about all of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:50   work is a lot like that it's it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:52   surreal at times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:54   genre bending it's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:58   he just as weird stuff with the like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:01   natural landscape amitabh this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03   fairly obviously influenced by by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:05   Florida the Florida fauna and i know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:08   said in interviews that it you know he'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10   go out to the woods and like take hikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12   and see weird stuff in the woods link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:14   like we're daughter creatures and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16   i don't know if he's actually seen weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:17   creatures that's what just we said in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:19   interviews but while the board the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21   boring stuff in the book is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23   happened to him real or yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:26   ah i'm even shoot at it or whatever but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:29   that that's directly from his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:31   experiences arm and the the right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:36   think the writing or the tunnel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:37   sequences what happened in his nightmare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:40   so you know that would make sense add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:44   disqus strange strange dreams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:47   yeah that titles a whole metaphor for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:49   this book because the deep you go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:50   this book that he is like going deeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:53   at all trying to read the words on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55   tunnel trying to make sense of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:57   there's that creature at the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   there's that creature at the bottom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   and it's just like it's just like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   can't escape it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:03   I listen to this as an audiobook driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   back from Arkansas in the middle of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:08   to drive reading is not listening is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:10   Arkansas and Missouri that was a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:11   odd experience about drive-through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:14   backwards Arkansas listening to this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:17   tell you that was a very odd way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:19   experiences because perfect i have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:22   only a more perfect was on the on the on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:25   the Florida coast where eroded that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:28   this book this book affected me strongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30   because I listen to it or just the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:32   place to really get my good really get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:35   feelings my bones and like I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37   reading his books and reading his books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   in city of st. imagine the original not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41   even though expand on the small 1i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:44   wave okay yeah because because it came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:46   out in two verses came in this small and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48   they came in the big heart for night I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:50   read both of those and so I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:52   exposed to is to the spores of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3652">TS</a>]

01:00:55   friction for a long long time now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57   also explores of his comments on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59   signal platter story friend knows about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01   uh well I'm the original spore spore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:04   recipient from my yes you are but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:07   have so this guy I was I was realized I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:09   mean his prints crows is just evocative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:12   the world i mean yeah i mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:14   characters are archetypes because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:15   they're only given as Julius titles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:19   they're not really well characterized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:21   not even the biologist but it is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23   just the sense of this world that II [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:26   area exedy folks is just hunting i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:31   see how it came out of the dream Jason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   think you might have a different haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:37   and waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:38   yeah I i think i agree that he is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:44   talented writer and this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:45   incredibly well-written book i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:48   there are images in it that are amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   i am there are passages that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:53   highlighted that I thought were really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55   cool i like the idea of who the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   biologists is or at least says she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3717">TS</a>]

01:02:02   about you no not there's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:06   passage where she says I I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:09   religious or superstitious purchase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:11   person they might see it differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:13   I'm not those people on just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   biologist I don't require any of this to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:17   have a deeper meaning which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:18   really interesting about this character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20   that this character is sort of accepting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22   what she sees and not trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:26   transform it into something else which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:27   is at all it's almost at you know as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:30   as a reader or as a writer right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:32   almost like putting down your card of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   saying so you can choose to view this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:37   one level or you can choose to view it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:38   on another level you decide it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:41   an interesting gambit almost I think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:43   another part of the writer so all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:46   said I came to the end I thought and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:49   hate to make fun i make fun of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:50   Goodreads reviewers who spent the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:52   three quarters of the review describing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:54   the rating system in detail haha but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:57   actually ended up being in that position [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3777">TS</a>]

01:03:00   where i was hovering over the over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:03   rating at the end of the book because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:04   read on my Kindle and thinking and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:06   literally thought well is this 4 stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:09   are two stars but and I i said it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:13   two stars and here's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15   although i think it is beautiful and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:17   is dreamlike there are two ways to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:19   interpret the phrase dreamlike and 1 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:21   0 and i want to mention it it did bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:24   back Lovecraft to me it's got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   feeling of of you know strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28   happenings and horrible things are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30   to happen and it's it's weird and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:32   there's madness and and I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34   was kind of effective but in the end the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:36   dreamlike thing you know dreamlike thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:39   can be this this mood and aware things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:42   don't make sense and all sorts of doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   things can happen dreams also don't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:47   any sense and you can say something as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:50   dreamlike and what it really is is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:52   author coming up with a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:54   different stuff and just slapping it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:56   into the book and saying dream and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3836">TS</a>]

01:04:00   honestly I felt the presence of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:03   author a little bit too much for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:04   like this book it felt to me like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:08   exercise that there were interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:11   images stitch together but for me it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:13   didn't work for me it felt artificial it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:16   really much felt like he had he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:18   written some really interesting pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:21   about Florida flora and fauna and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:24   creepy things about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26   staircase and all that and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:28   slapped it all together but it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:30   hold for me so you know I I'm trying not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:33   to be unkind because I think he's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:34   think his writing is beautiful but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:37   the end it felt kind of like a con to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:39   it didn't i didn't buy into it so in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:42   end I gotta say it was way better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:46   written than several of the books on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:48   left this list but I i can't say that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:50   liked it i do sometimes enjoy lyrical I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:53   I don't require a plot and characters in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:56   every book i read like I said I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58   like there's a spell that can be revoked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00   and it just the spell broke for me and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:03   i started thinking of it much more as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:05   i was reading short stories from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07   fiction writing class and saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:09   know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:09   yes you did put together five images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:12   from that dream you had last night after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:14   you had a little too much taco bell and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:17   good for you you're a good writer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19   this doesn't get these are just images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   so we're well where's the rest of it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:24   next two books are very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:27   I'll say that much anyway I'm glad i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:28   read it and I'm also glad which I'm also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:31   glad it was short and I don't just mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   that insulting well I really like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:36   it move it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:37   it moved and ended and you know more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:41   books should probably last we said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:43   earlier should probably take that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:45   heart that they don't only double yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47   overstuffed this is a lien on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:49   beautiful beautifully written book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:52   just you know i didn't i didn't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54   came together but you know I i agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56   with you on all the other points that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:58   he's a very good writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:00   guys I think that we all have reached an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:02   understanding and I just an awful person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04   let's move on to the last book the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:08   Goblin Emperor by Catherine Addison it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:13   book if you talk about expectations I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:15   had no expectations going in but very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:16   early on when you discover that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:19   a you know it's a fantasy novel and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:20   setting this elven realm and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:23   elves and goblins and there are you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:26   their social hierarchies and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:27   histories of battles and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:29   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:30   I thought I kind of felt like it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:33   was a really nice setup here for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:36   we've come to expect from a fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:38   novel and i'll just say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:40   was so delighted that none of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:42   happened and that is this ended up being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:45   this this is a story about a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:47   who ends up finding himself by quite by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:50   accident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:51   well accident quite quite quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:54   unexpectedly let's put it that way as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:56   the Emperor of this entire kingdom the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4016">TS</a>]

01:07:00   Empire whatever and and instead of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:04   being like and then I mean there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:06   assassination attempts in here but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:09   not like and then there was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:09   assassination attempt and then the war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:11   and then there was a battle and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:13   instead it's really like how does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:14   young person who is very bright but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:17   well-educated navigate this incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:20   complex set of politics in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:24   survive and find out who he wants to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:26   and that's it that's what the book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:29   and i loved it i really i really loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:32   it i love being surprised by this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:34   and I also just loved the book itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36   and that that's what it was and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:39   okay that this ended up being kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:41   how you know how is this kid gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:43   figure out how to have this job instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:46   of armies clash and you know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:49   just it wasn't necessary that it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:51   totally different kind of book but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:53   thought i thought was a I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:55   beautiful so I'll i loved it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:57   what did what did you all think he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:59   wants to build a bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:00   he's just a bridge-builder let him build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:02   the print edition bridges are fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:04   come on this is so different than her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:06   other novels I mean I read her novels as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:10   ceremony at who's the actual name of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:11   author years ago and this is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:15   different I mean that in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:17   quality she's this piece yet she had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:19   health problems associated in writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:22   for many years so this is actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:23   return to form for trooper I mean she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:26   should read a couple novels to with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:27   elizabeth bear and those had trailed off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:29   the wall because her health condition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:30   and so I was thinking okay so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:32   gonna get nice really nice dark fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:34   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:35   no because her other cells can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:38   really dark and twisted and complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:41   politics and we have complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:43   politics here but it's a much smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:45   stories about about a kid was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:48   becoming a pro by accident and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:50   eventually just building a bridge in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:52   trying to survive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:54   and I appreciate that because it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:56   story about the the whole state of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:58   kingdom of the world's at stake for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:00   announce it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:01   it's a smaller scale spoiler stakes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:03   story and we can have those and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05   executed it excellently I I mean about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:09   the only thing this thing then black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:10   this lack and was a map i butting in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:14   own map [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:15   I'mI'm a partisan i'm at parties in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:17   everyone knows everything is better with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:19   maps everything but it would be nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:22   get to know where some of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4162">TS</a>]

01:09:23   were I saw online service she had like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:26   have drawn half-assed map that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:30   posted somewhere i would like to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:32   proper map map for this well because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34   that's that's just part of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:36   expectations advanced e-reader but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:38   i was delighted this is was not what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:41   not what as you said was it looked like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:43   it was going to be was good it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45   much different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:47   warframe story and elegantly well-told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:50   or well III in general do not read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:54   much fantasy because I just don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56   it as much as science fiction so I went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:59   in expecting this be the weakest of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:01   the reeds and I think it was purchased [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:03   about the strongest of all the reads for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05   many of the same reasons that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07   mentioned Jason like I was expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:09   okay guys going to become emperor and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:12   some point there's going to be a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:13   battle because somebody's gonna be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:15   and you don't have to leave the troops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:16   in battle and we'll get killed everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:18   said no that doesn't happen you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:20   he'll go on a quest because he's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:22   Emperor he has to save the kingdom well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:24   that doesn't happen under the usual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:26   tropes happened it was sort of like last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:28   year when we read the Goblin in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:30   general and they had that seen the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:32   that the one that the gin makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:34   other the map that's on the ceiling of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:37   the apartment you walk in and when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:39   light hits the right way you see the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:41   hills and valleys and everything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:43   know this is that this same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:44   happened to me when I read this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:45   everything with the bridge with a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:47   model of the present so fascinated with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:49   the workmanship you know it'sit's it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:51   seems like that that really captivated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:53   me and I mean that i had trouble with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:57   the names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4257">TS</a>]

01:10:58   yeah the guys would be any audiobook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:00   because the do the words no no no I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:03   not it i as an audiobook and it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:06   help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:06   no like what the hell were these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:09   it's very complicated like I is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:12   would be my one criticism as I felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:14   I like that you set up this whole world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:16   that seems foreign but I it actually got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:17   in my way all of these complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:19   proper names that were just so hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:23   keep track of and and even think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4283">TS</a>]

01:11:25   how you would pronounce them and I even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:27   knew Hungarian people so I love these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:29   names seem very Hungarian to me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:32   still it was too many it was just there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:33   just to manage to put this society and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:36   they like the fact that he had different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:38   rooms for different audiences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:40   yeah you know different mean just living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:42   in the castle and trying to make friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:44   that whole thing with the cards you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:46   we can't be your friends because we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:48   two cars jewelry in if we're friends we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50   might not react as fast mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:53   just so much that I enjoyed about this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:54   like that Maya the the main character is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:57   a is smart like yes the be smart but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4317">TS</a>]

01:12:01   educated and you know is such a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:05   thing to do because it would be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:06   easy for him to be to be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:09   portrayed as being dumb or you know or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:11   or being like so impossibly smart that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:13   he can figure everything out right away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:15   and it's neither of those things is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:16   person who is smart and trying to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:18   but there's too much to learn and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:20   enough time to learn it and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:21   that's a really interesting place for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:23   the character to be asked questions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:25   he learns ya NAA even tries to like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:27   know hit the biggest enemy quote-unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:29   I think would be his cousin in this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:32   and even tries to you know tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:35   reconcile tries to find something to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:37   with him and whether the guy like likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:39   it accepts it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:40   you know is up to him but might rise now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:44   hehe it is a was this is it is aunt or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:49   whatever is involved in the plot against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:51   him right he does like banish everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:54   he adopts basically the kids and takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:57   care of them brings them into his home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:59   you know it's not like you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:00   slaughters everybody like in a typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:02   game of Thrones episode or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:04   it's a very different look at empire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:06   then the Empire the Raj yes yes doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4386">TS</a>]

01:13:09   not a lefty and I have teeth at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:13   stage there's tea though there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:15   there's a breakfast Thursday theirs too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:16   yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:17   no sandwiches though so Jack whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:19   yeah yeah yeah I mean I overall I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:24   enjoyed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:25   the thing that I had a lot of issue with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:27   was the second the character started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:30   doing the d and now and can stand what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:32   it's stuff which I suspect a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:35   people that have an issue with that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:37   just every time they started doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:39   i started rolling my eyes it's a the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:41   the way they put it I mean it is sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:43   like what and like he does in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:45   ancillary books which is issue is she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:48   trying to get across language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:50   differences so the idea there is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:51   they've got like in like in German or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:54   something they've got they've got like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:55   the formal in the informal and it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:57   about how you speak like they all speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:59   plural when they're with the Emperor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:01   that's how you're supposed to do it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03   when you go to vm Val you're speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:05   down to somebody I finally figured that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:06   out nervously okay well this isn't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:08   ridiculous now at least I understand why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:11   it because because it at first it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:12   really in Congress it's like what why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:14   are you talking like this now but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:17   end I think that was what was intended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:18   as to she was trying to show off like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:21   like levels of you what are you talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:25   down or up to somebody or they at your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:27   level with these different ways of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:29   addressing them because that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:30   temporary cares about that i guess i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:33   guess that could have been done better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:36   maybe a little more artfully that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:37   could but i could buy that or at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:39   made very clear from the start that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:41   that's what's happening because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:42   second it happened I just by its journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:46   and a lot of it i just i i hate when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:49   people use bowing can stand witnessed as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:53   other writing like Shakespeare and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:54   like as not now let's not do that please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:57   yeah that also goes a little goes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4497">TS</a>]

01:14:59   names of she's very interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:01   language and its forms and how people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:04   use it and it's constructions and so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:07   maybe sometimes it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:09   off-putting with that pressure for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:10   these thousand can send for you Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:13   pro and you are friends with with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:15   name's Abby I mean she's got she's she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:17   got a vision in our mind and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:20   sometimes it goes a little too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:22   I enjoyed it greatly I believe what skin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:26   in a magical world where I am awarding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:28   the nebulous of this in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:30   win the nebula because I just thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:33   was delightful i liked the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:36   character I i will echo everything that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:38   everyone else said about how you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:40   you go in reading inspecting okay well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:43   it's this you know this little upstart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:45   wasn't really enough for this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:47   Forgotten kid that the the Emperor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:50   didn't want to have anything to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4550">TS</a>]

01:15:52   and no one ever thought would be Emperor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:54   because they're through his three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4554">TS</a>]

01:15:55   brothers and so clearly he's never going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:57   to become the Emperor and they all died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4557">TS</a>]

01:16:00   there's no in a horrible airship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:02   accident i should say there by checking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:04   off an important box on the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:05   what are their Zeppelin's whoo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:07   Zeppelin's yes Zeppelin's tricep once in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:09   the compliment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:11   he's a footnote he's never intended to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:15   be anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:17   and in fact has been locked away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:18   somewhere being abused essentially yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:20   and i thought that that relationship was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:22   really interesting and how you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:25   being raised quote-unquote by some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:29   of vague relatives / courtier and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:34   very well and then suddenly the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:37   dynamic shifts and he's the Emperor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:40   now his uncle I guess was a wants to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4600">TS</a>]

01:16:43   know he's back in court and he's trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:45   to curry favor and Mia is resisting just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:49   using all of his power to just punish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:51   this man for all the horrible things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4611">TS</a>]

01:16:53   he's done to him and I just that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:55   fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:55   I like I think it's a good good trait in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:59   an emperor and I think this is the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:00   of it obviously in the industry is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:02   you can you can literally just command [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:06   for people to be taken away and killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:08   or locked up or somewhere he is it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:10   his childhood was so awful that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:12   fights against it at every step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:13   even with people who have done pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:15   awful things and I mean that that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:16   really fast way to to get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:19   understanding of the decency of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:20   character that that the kid that that my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:23   resists doing that but I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4643">TS</a>]

01:17:25   really interesting especially with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:27   one character who is just abused him for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:29   his entire life and he he tries very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:31   hard to get him away without like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:35   doing to him what was done to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:37   yeah other thoughts I i agree with scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:41   by the way I i would i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:43   my magical amulet with the Goblin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4663">TS</a>]

01:17:45   temporary with my yeah there's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:47   favorite to buy yep the Goblin / was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:50   favorite followed closely by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:52   annihilation and then ancillary sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:54   had to write my top three nebula picks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4674">TS</a>]

01:17:56   will be those three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:58   let's do more ranking Sean you're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4678">TS</a>]

01:18:00   wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:01   what do you want to wait don't tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:02   your rankings I annihilation at the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:05   followed by three body problem ancillary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4685">TS</a>]

01:18:08   sword than goblin Emperor interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:10   not not so into the god the reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4690">TS</a>]

01:18:13   was really just got to you that pulls me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4693">TS</a>]

01:18:16   out of almost any fantasy story went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:18   unless unless it's like literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:19   Shakespeare doing it in which case I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:21   like that's cool because elizabeth bear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:23   has done that bit where she's had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:24   Shakespeare actually say that these and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:25   thousands like yeah well if it's Jake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:27   we're doing it I'm cool other rankings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:29   Fred did you rank them I would uh tied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:33   for first was vandemere and this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:36   second three-body third was and lucky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4716">TS</a>]

01:18:40   all right for me and then other books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:42   were also listed yes now i get there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:47   not a single book i disliked I enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:50   the mall is just that I felt these were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:52   better than the rest so no yeah there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:56   only one but i actually actively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:58   disliked so i should say that it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:01   worried about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:01   there were two books I actively decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:04   I would be I would rank goblin Emperor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:08   annihilation three-body problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:11   ancillary sword and then others the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:15   other others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:17   yes fair enough and for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:21   yeah i would be goblin Emperor ancillary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:24   sword three body and and the other box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:31   other books would be below the half-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:33   well I want to see where it is coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:35   home and annihilation or not probably i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4775">TS</a>]

01:19:38   would probably put an Iowa shin next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:40   only because it is so well written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:42   even though ultimately my feelings about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4782">TS</a>]

01:19:44   I i have this occasion with boot books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:47   and movies where I where I think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:48   the book a lot or the movie and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:50   III appreciate that it made me really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:52   think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:53   and then I say ne and I don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:56   worked I you know I think it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:57   failure i didn't like it and and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4797">TS</a>]

01:19:59   are better than the ones that I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:01   like oh come on this isn't very good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:04   so I recognize even though i ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:06   not kind of not liking it I recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:07   the value in it and that why i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:10   understand why other people would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:11   it a lot more so i probably better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:13   ranking i'd probably put it above trial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:15   by fire and then i gotta put poor old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:17   Jack leeteuk down at the bottom even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:18   though i like so many of those books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:20   because I it's just not it's not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:21   good night I and i would say that did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:23   that I have issues with trial by fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:26   and coming home but I read them both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:28   without much trouble and I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:30   think that like trial by fire my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:31   problems are very much like not that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:33   didn't like the book but I felt like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:35   kind of went on too long and it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:37   kind of too much in that story and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:38   could have could have moved a lot faster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:40   and I think would have been better for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:43   it but not that I I you know one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:45   throw it out the window or anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:46   that which since i read on my Kindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:47   would be a problem by the way so he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4847">TS</a>]

01:20:50   go huh yeah I had copied onto a memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4850">TS</a>]

01:20:52   stick and then throw that out the window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:54   or something really nice so I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:57   question for the the folks who red jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4857">TS</a>]

01:21:00   mcdevitt and like it because i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:01   coming home and why didn't like it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:03   thought these are characters that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:05   could picture in a story that i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4865">TS</a>]

01:21:07   like so what for someone who is only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:10   read coming home what other jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:12   mcdevitt book should I read that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4872">TS</a>]

01:21:15   make me happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:16   seeker is much better job i made me what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:20   you think about giving him the one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4880">TS</a>]

01:21:21   the Priscilla novel yeah i think that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4881">TS</a>]

01:21:23   think the Priscilla Hutchins novels are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:25   better than Alex Benedict every um the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:28   first one of those edges of God which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:30   pretty good i really like deep six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:32   because it is as crazy high stakes space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:36   adventure as you're ever going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4896">TS</a>]

01:21:38   because they're literally on a planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:39   that is about to be hit like swallowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:42   whole by a rogue gas giant that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4902">TS</a>]

01:21:45   passing through the system so they so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4905">TS</a>]

01:21:48   they literally land on this planet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:49   find evidence of a previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:51   extraterrestrial civilization there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:54   there's this huge ticking clock that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:55   they can't do anything about which is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57   up planets gonna hit it and maybe that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4917">TS</a>]

01:22:00   just so outrageous and yet i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:03   a memorable and interesting and and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:06   you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:06   those books the Priscilla Hodgins books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:08   I'd say our are there i think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYpzjaM/4928">TS</a>]

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