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jun 2015
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welcome back everybody to the
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incomparable podcast I'm your host Jason
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li convene this edition of our old movie
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club Movie Club thank you I'd like to
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welcome all of our panelists that was
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Steve lot i see
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hello sugar David laura is out there as
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David hello hey you're fine man system
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Monty Ashley welcome that's you're a
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good man sister he repeated you you lug
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it i corrected
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good morning out there hello damn don't
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crowd me Jason Erica and sign hello
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hello I'm just looking forward to you
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Birds crack and foxy
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hey a first-time visitor longtime
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listener the other internet so dr. drag
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is here hello
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I don't mind telling you Jason I'm a man
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who likes talking to a man who watch
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though and the ringleader of the old
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movie club because he is increasingly
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old in years but always old and spirit
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it's phillip Michaels hello hard-bitten
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dialogue it's all in the delivery room
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yes so he'll tell us what we watched
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explain to me what we watched acquainted
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with years as you as you may have
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guessed from from the the peanut gallery
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we watched a lot of dashiell hammett
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movies tonight or specifically movies
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based on the work of Dashiell Hammett
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and even more specifically still we
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watched The Maltese Falcon the 1949-50
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Thank You 1941 version i would have got
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me wrong and we also watched the Thin
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Man 1934 1934 is the thin man both based
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on dashiell hammett books as previously
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indicated alright so the dashiell
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hammett is our is our connecting factor
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yes he a mystery writer of some repute
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a a couple of movies that i enjoy 11
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more than the other and probably one
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more than a lot of people in this room
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right now enjoy it to give away the
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ending where should we start
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Oh dealers choice what do you what do
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you say I'll i will I like to end on a
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positive note
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ok let's start the maltese falcon damn
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well my god podcast is over i have aged
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well Jason the maltese falcon is a great
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movie appreciated by filmgoers me
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concerning a little bit sophisticated
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for something if the club
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it's the story of Sam Spade as played by
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humphrey bogart he is a detective in San
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Francisco his partner is Miles Archer
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apparently the worst detective in the
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world as weak as we find out early on in
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the movie seconds after we meet him
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yes anyhow a dame stumbles into Sam
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spades office with with a story that we
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we quickly everyone in the noses is a
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false story her sister is in town
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there's a man with they're trying to
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trying to kidnapper and won't Sam Spade
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a go and try and get the girl back but
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miles Archer sticks his big stupid nose
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into it and and says hey I'll do it and
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for his troubles miles Archer gets shot
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also the man he was tailing get shot so
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the police figure either up Sam Spade
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killed killed the man who killed a miles
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archer who is a gentleman called Floyd
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Thursby or since Sam Spade apparently
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had an affair with Miles arches wife
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maybe he killed miles Archer to and so
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Sam decides that the only way that he's
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going to get the police off his back is
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to solve the crime himself so he he he
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gets in good with the girl whose name is
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Bridget O'Shaughnessy and discoveries
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that what she really is in town for is
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for an object called The Maltese Falcon
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Anton and there are a bunch of other a
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crooked characters in for it as well
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there is Peter Lorre who plays a
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gentleman named Jill Cairo who is a
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wonderful wonderful
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cinematic character and i will be
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student made it i read in the newspaper
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is there some unfortunate connection
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between the man therapy and you're the
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partner ended Peter Lorre delivers every
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line like that he is that this is the
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most this is maximum Peter Lorre a
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second Peter Lorre is Lori laurent yeah
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so he is Joel Cairo he is looking for
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the Maltese Falcon and Sydney
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Greenstreet who i think has over the
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years surpassed Joel Cairo is my
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favorite character in this movie he
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plays he plays a character delightfully
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named Casper gutman like aka the fat man
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in his film debut
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yes this is the first movie that that
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Sydney Greenstreet ever made known as
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the fat man is mat Porkins seemed like a
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good idea for uh and he is sort of like
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the the guy who wants the maltese falcon
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the most he has a he has a güncel in
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his employ named Wilmer played by old
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movie club favorite elections jr. yeah
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class is adding a punching bag Elijah
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could to this is what started him on
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that path
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no one ever saw him as anything other
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than you're going to die horribly it's
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something that is only role getting beat
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up by Booker T the right yeah that they
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sleep too
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yeah here's this is literally the steve
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buscemi of his day
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you look kinda you have these kinda
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crazy eyes and we're just going to
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humiliate and you're probably wind up
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dead by the end of the movie or at least
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beat up the menu see him you know
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terrible things are going to happen and
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Elijah called junior and there's nothing
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good has ever happened is what I'm used
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to the idea and he's careless with
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matches
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so there are many twists and turns and
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and betrayals and eventually the The
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Maltese Falcon does wind up in Sam
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spades hands they have the classic
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dashiell hammett mystery movie moment
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where all the crooks are gathered in the
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room and and the how the crimes went
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down as explained and eventually what
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happens is that a lot Elijah cook jr. is
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is properly arrested for the murder of
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of Floyd Thursby the cops also grab Joel
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Cairo and and Kasper Gutman and it turns
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out the bridge O'Shaughnessy was the one
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who gunned down miles archer who shot
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gasps and she's counting on Humphrey
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Bogart who was falling in love with her
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to you know let this one slide but he
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won't do it he has the this is if you're
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familiar with movie dialogue this is the
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i won't play the SAP for you and she is
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sent away to prison and that's the end
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of movie and that's the quickest plot
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summary I've ever done that means
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yeah especially considering him now I'd
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like to go back to the beginning yes
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yeah so we were onto the one minute then
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without the next hour will be spent Phil
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explaining every detail of the Thin Man
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oh no no no I it occurred to me as I was
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watching The Thin Man that the maltese
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falcon is one of the rare i don't know
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that it i wouldn't call this a film noir
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but it's one of the rare new Irish
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movies where the plot is actually
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comprehensible and and they actually I i
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find maybe it's because I've seen it so
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many times but it took a lot of pausing
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and rewinding form it's it's really
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important it's not that important but i
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think these bars think the plot is is
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usually so byzantine and yet so I for me
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anyway so not really part of why I would
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enjoy the film
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it's more of just it's something to hang
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the characters very limited window
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dressing
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here's why these people are hanging out
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together yeah I MacGuffin and but I i
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think that having seen this movie
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yo dozens of times yeah fair to say i
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I'm able to to to follow the plot lines
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and and it takes like five six few hints
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before finally begins to oh that's
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that's why they're going to burlingame
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got it so it I i mean i-i i enjoyed I
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think it's a I think it's a good story
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and I i like the Humphrey book our
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character a lot I some may disagree and
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I open the floor to them this is my
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second time watching The Maltese Falcon
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and actually the first time
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I really didn't think very much of it
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was kind of like Matt's it's fine and I
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liked it much better this time and I
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don't know how much of that has to do
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with understanding the plot better and
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how much has to do with any other random
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factor that could be going on but yeah
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these movies kind of dosey doe a little
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bit kind of the first times I'd watch
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them be right back gotta go watch The
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Maltese Falcon again so this is sassy
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Jason tonight
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yeah i think the reason I like it is not
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necessarily the plot i think it's the
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collection of characters I i do like the
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the the guy I've spoken of my admiration
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for for Joel Cairo and Kasper Gutman I
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think even Elijah cook jr. does a good
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job with his with his hapless gunman and
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and they throw in a bunch of other just
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minor characters who in other movies he
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wouldn't think much about but they
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they're the third there's the lieutenant
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who wants to corral Sam Spade hates him
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so much
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yes well you can understand that i just
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made if you're guilty and I wouldn't
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blame you
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you'll get most of the brakes for me if
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you had a guy like that in your town
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you'd really want to arrest him for
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something wouldn't yeah and we get
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adjusted applause for a cameo by john
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huston's father Walter Huston as the man
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who died his immediately financer in
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Sam's baby it's all he gets to say two
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words and then he dies because he's been
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shot full of lead he's the captain of
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the boat that brought the maltese falcon
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to San Francisco apparently Jack Warner
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wouldn't let him do it unless he
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promised he wouldn't ask a penny for the
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role then he could stumble into the room
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and died apparently he also kept
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screwing it up on purpose to screw with
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your son and i think that was just--
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that we mentioned this was a Sydney
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Greenstreet source movie i think this
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was john huston's it was mercy
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electorial that movie i believe his
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lines upon entering the office are you
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know Falcon yeah she did he die if your
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PKA mr. Falcon we got the the other copy
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the good cop to the police lieutenants
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bad cop is played by work bond who
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appears in every movie ever made notable
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dialogue huh haha
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maybe the classic final line of the
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movie everybody remembers it
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young people John is the reason why they
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had to switch to send with CinemaScope
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it consumes the entire screen at full
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frame know he they there if i did that
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list of 100 greatest movies a few years
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onstage and be Sydney Greenstreet as
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yeah everything is he always does he
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always talk like this
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he's also in the amma where he gets all
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talk a lot interesting but just have one
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really good speech my favourite bit from
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characters i like the way they act all
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interesting why well variety of reasons
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you can find your sister nylons i think
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i think i will do miraculous yeah
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alright well from the very start we are
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told that miss wonderly as a knockout
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wonderly is the the pseudonym she gives
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first of three the internets miss
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wonderly she's actually doesn't do much
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she's the worst thing about this movie
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that if there's yes to me one flaw in
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the movies mary astor is terrible in it
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and is not a femme fatale and is not a
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nacho she does some world-class
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fidgeting at least one scene oh so you
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know give her their spade as a character
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I just don't like him he's a smarmy ass
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and I don't really want to root for him
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interested in home and I'm agreeing with
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Stephen extent almost home almost every
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nor has the the lead you know to be a
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bit unlikable but there's usually
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something to help overcome it and and in
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this particular film he's so OneNote
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first first two things that happen with
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that we really get to know Sam Spade
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first off it is a his his partner in
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this detective agency has been shot to
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death he calls he has to break the news
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so he calls his secretary and says that
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he shot dead
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don't get excited excited and keep the
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wife away from me keep her away i love
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that all fri before I have to talk to
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her that's really nice and then and the
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next thing he does is say can we scrape
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his name off the windows and put my name
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up there
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yeah it's not he is not dead 24 hours
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and they are
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my notes read Sam's also kind of allowed
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after the answer you're currently
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writing miles quite allowed
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he also takes every opportunity to take
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people's money literally taking in some
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Kentucky goes to bridges apartment like
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give me all of your money now you can
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walk your jewelry or something i don't
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care but then he gives it back to her
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thats that's a ploy to to see how
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desperate she really is for his help and
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whether she's trying to play them or not
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because she hands him the way he makes
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her hand him the whole $500 then he
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hands her back what looks like about
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half of it
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yeah if you really want to dislike him
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look at his smile is he's punching Joel
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oh yeah he's nearly like punching this
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guy who smells like gardenias you the
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line when you're slapped you'll take it
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and like it I mean please
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and then you know that the the day new
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mom where we're supposed to feel that
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at all because their look their
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so-called love seem so utterly contrived
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all along i think again that's a fault
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of mary astor not to be too much blame
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us for whatever reason it didn't work at
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all I i blame both of them
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yeah thanks that's entirely possible to
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well and it's some of that is a movie i
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think some of that has to do with the
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the time the movie made in a time like
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your kind of expected like to have these
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leads have some sort of like to have a
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father fell in love at first sight which
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doesn't really make any sense in this
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movie soon a roster from the beginning I
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lot of movies from this era but there
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was just maybe it was just because there
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was no chemistry there but I or maybe it
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was because he was such a jerk all the
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way through
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I couldn't bring myself to believe that
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he had actually fallen in love with her
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I thought he was just playing her this
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whole time and then we get to this last
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scene and and I think that's why I
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didn't like the movie the first time I
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had seen it because because I i just
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didn't buy it all the way through the
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second time I knew he was supposed to be
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in love with her so I was at least able
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to ignore that part of the plot and
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enjoy the character actors but that at i
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still think that the two leads are the
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biggest weak spots for me in this film
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they have zero chemistry that is that is
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for certain what else can I pay you with
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I i do I i do want to defend Humphrey
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Bogart a little bit here and and the
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character of Sam Spade I think he's
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supposed to be kind of unlikable
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oh yeah mission accomplished g here i
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mean this is this is this is my camera
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all over again
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where it's just see the thing with the
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thing with my camera film that we
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watched is he's so over-the-top hamming
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it up as he's being an ass that he
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didn't seem like a legitimate asked me
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in that movie is just like you can
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really take him seriously whereas
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because bogard is good you really get
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the impression that this is an awful
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person you're watching my camera is a
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caricature of an ass Sam Spade is an ass
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right when going back to the books I
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mean my camera is is that next
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generation after Sam Spade and Philip
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Marlowe and all that so he's kind of
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inspired by that and and he's kind of a
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jerk in the books and and spade is very
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much a jerk in the books as MPs oh yeah
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he's more likable as bogert then he is
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just longer a job in there in the book
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out he is not a very pleasant person and
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an dashiell hammett doesn't make any
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pretense that he's supposed to be plus
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yeah it in the book there's a bigger
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deal i think made out of the fact that
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the only reason he's doing any of this
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because his partner got killed right
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thing with like miles was kind of a jerk
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I mean like the whole thing that we
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learned about him you know people like
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was the cop say to him in the first few
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miles and his fault same as anyone I
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guess I must have had his goodbyes to I
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guess so
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yes no no no one says a kind word about
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miles at any point that's mostly it was
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good and Miracle on thirty-fourth Street
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anyone else think it was super can be in
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his wife already had like a morning get
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up the next day like I just added weight
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me just in case I had a good feeling
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about this
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I ended up and really disappointed that
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the that Sam's hubris never really
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caught up with him as his secretary had
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suggested it might at the goal line
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I think that's a very legitimate
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criticism of the movie and maybe that's
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just because that's how things usually
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go in these films that you know that
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with the the jerk character gets his
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comeuppance in some way but if if
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there's a criticism I think of of Bogart
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from from my perspective it's that he's
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still on top of things and and that
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he'ii never really has that moment of a
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panic like oh god all these plates are
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going to topple down on top of me that
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I'm well other than when he gets knocked
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he's like a ferris bueller you want a
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passo Ferris Bueller he's a man of base
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judgment and many resources
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yeah i mean he
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he throws his little fit inside of
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governments sweet but that's better now
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he's got that big smirk on his face yeah
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it's all in one over on him yes want to
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slug him come on i wouldn't recommend it
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i I'm I'm shocked at the at the at the
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bad feelings toward this movie this is
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at various times in my life this has
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been my favorite movie
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they're wrong next
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welcome to the badge as we go into the
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incomparable have been let's do it i
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mean it's not say that the the final
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scene and the speeches where he's
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sending her over
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don't play out well that's that's true
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and one of the problems i think is I
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don't think Bogart knows how spade is
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supposed to feel I don't think he had a
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handle on what the character is supposed
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to feel and I don't think anyone had a
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handle on what spade is supposed to feel
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spade is an impenetrable character
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that's kind of the whole point in the
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book The Maltese Falcon of unusual for a
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detective book especially one written by
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habit is not done in the first person so
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you have no sense of spades in her life
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and kind of the actor's job to fill that
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well yes but if he fills it out then
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he's not Sam Spade anymore and if you
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did watch the 31 version in 1931 date
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which is terrible it is when we're done
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here I want to talk about it exceeded
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it's unbelievably bad are very sexy but
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unbelievably bad arm he treat that actor
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whose name escapes Ricardo something has
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Cortez yes Stanley Cortez's brother are
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he's he tries to give spade some inner
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life it's a bad in her life but it's but
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he tries to give them an inner life it
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doesn't work at all now partly it's
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because the court has not a very good
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actor are you know I the point of Sam
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Spade is that he is impenetrable he has
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this code and that's basically all he is
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that's what makes him a good detective
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that's why he doesn't
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falter except when he takes the spiked
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drink from gutman it's to me the big
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mystery in this movie and the bigness
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what's always been the biggest mystery
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is how did Gladys George get such high
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building she plays iva right and she's
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she's essentially a nonentity she's
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barely and in this movie and I how did
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she get to be with you who was she
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sleeping with to get such a high high
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ranking I was certain at one point that
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she was going to turn up at the end
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cause a series of events unfold and she
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never did that be plot really doesn't go
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anywhere
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no yeah her cut the movie plot in her
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character of the IVA character m-makes
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does more in the book than it does in
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the movie but that's the guy I have no
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idea why she's shit she's just there
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during the third to make a spade look
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like a heel and yeah and have colored
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his relationship with miles
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that's sort of her only reason to exist
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well I think it's that and the fact that
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you've got you've got three women all
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around spade and who are all devoted to
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spade in some way or another and you
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know I've of Bridget and fe and I don't
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know exactly what to think about that
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but I'm sure that theses have been
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written about it it's it's just it's an
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interesting thing how these three women
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all kind of revolve around spade but
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never never get to him i really liked fe
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I mean to perform yes I was kind of form
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on but i love the character i'm always a
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fan of the the the candy girl who gets
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it done and basically keeps the main
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character of float throughout the entire
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movie we just gal Friday you know
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yep well and she's actually proves
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herself i mean i-i thought that the
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scene in particular where she talks
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about going to see miles is wife and she
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sort of deduces that that I've had been
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outright by all these like clues
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what if i told you your precious i left
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had not been in the room but 45 minutes
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yeah that's what she's a smart cookie
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right like she knows what she's doing
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she is not like just there to be the
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help in some ways and I feel like yeah
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she does get that unfortunately she gets
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like a little sideline as business goes
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on but i agree with Erica I think she's
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she's one of the characters are really
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this and I think of the women in this
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probably well as female character that
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is a high bar to clear like her
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expression when she arrives with the
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falken bundle in hand she just has this
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little smile on her face
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here you go drops it off turns I'm sorry
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to ruin your day of rest not the first
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one you've ruined now I'm getting out of
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here before I get dragged into your
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nonsense
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yeah well also don't start Sam I had her
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all night
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yeah I find it very well delivered yeah
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we Patrick doesn't it doesn't excellent
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job playing her
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there's a lot of great just writing in
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Jamie like you know yeah this is lifted
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largely from habit it's almost entirely
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and right yes verbatim right and i think
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you know that the parts where it shines
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to me is the the dialogue about the
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pattern right like because that's that
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is with him it's all about but i do love
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some of the staging of them in
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particular i love there's a scene where
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where Peter Lorre decides to leave the
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apartment is just like oh it's getting
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quite late and images like trails off in
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the middle of the day I'm gonna love
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that saying that is fantastic are not
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going to produce the sense i don't even
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have an excuse I don't even know what
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they're what the rest of that sentence
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was but pretty much anything that Sydney
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Greenstreet says he's hilarious
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yeah I'm awesome I i found myself really
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wanting more
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Lori and more green street and lamenting
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that they don't come into the film until
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later not liking Bogart as much and
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again the you know he's sort of not
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meant to be like to hear but really
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around liking him as much as I thought I
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still I i enjoyed their interactions
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together the green street and and Bogart
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interaction and loriann bogart and when
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they're all together in electric juniors
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there and he's he's it right in front of
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Elijah cook jr. he's explaining how
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they're going to throw him to the wolves
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something I think that's great i like I
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loved all that into twisty I'm not maybe
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film noir is not my thing
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I mean the twisty plot stuff I just was
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like oh you know
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ok more let's throw more in which is
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yeah sure i have no idea it's like they
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put a blindfold on me and spun me around
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like 20 times like all right now watch
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the movies like I have no idea what's
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going on but the i do agree the these
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character actors and the characters are
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playing are very are great that the
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stuff that was my favorite was in
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very specific part in the in the middle
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of the film
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I like I I as we mentioned earlier i
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love that that a chiro tour spade and
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then says come to the center of the room
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which is a really bad playing spades
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just immediately punches him in Texas
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gun and then he gets the gun back and
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does it begin on that bench that was
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laughing out loud that was a really
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funny scene i like the one your slap
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you'll take it and like it feels like it
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could take i like it and i really love i
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really love when he tries to talk to
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cops out of coming into his apartment
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and then there are the shouts and he
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says well I guess you're going in
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yeah you can also just the entire story
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that they can cock there which is almost
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totally ridiculous and they do what they
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allude to that later where kairos is
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like I way I stuck to that story when
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the cops questioned the whole time I
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really wish you'd come up with something
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better and his it's a terrible story
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sound like an idiot he goes to a
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completely different story midway
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through completely changes it because
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the first one isn't going off properly
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sorry they felt like every single D&D
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campaign I've been in persons try to
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talk them out of it sells out of
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something in the realize nope this
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doesn't actually make any sense I'm just
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gonna keep going you keep making
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something up until something sticks out
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of the I hope you know what you're doing
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a crippled newsy took him away from him
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i just got back from that that's gotta
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be a winner for ya
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also you always have a smooth way of
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saying something you want me to do learn
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to stutter and pick up that I like that
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was that was my thought that was my
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favorite i kinda don't want them to be
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AI think the thing I agree with you
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Jason that they are the most kind of the
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most Indian enticing part of the film
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but I also don't want them to get
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arrested at the end too because they're
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off on this quest like oh well this
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didn't work out but we're going to go
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back and we're gonna find the girls at a
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time all it's like the beginning of the
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raiders of the lost ark or something
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right Kasper Gutman and Joel Cairo will
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be back in maltese falcon to the search
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for the Falcon well i just i love the
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Lori's character is coded as homosexual
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right and he smells in there p and yeah
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ladies get any more listed in the book
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at the Guardians things just like an
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Egyptian thing or something
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well he hit while he is in brown face so
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you've got that to overlook it
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but can you tell us black and white have
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you seen Peter Lorre another thing is
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that he's a pasty guy always you know
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it's also interesting that I Wilmer is
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called several times described as a gun
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soul which you may assume as the sensor
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güncel means kid with a gun yeah it
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actually means a young man kept for
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homosexual purposes a catamite know
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yep so if you would like to go back and
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look at the seams now I gotta wear
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tonight
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yeah government's relationship to wilmer
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takes on new light when you understand
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what all of these works me also there's
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that exchange between O'Shaughnessy and
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Cairo where he is a play outside well
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you can get around him just like he got
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around that one is temple
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ok that within me that that's the first
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time Joel Cairo gets punched by someone
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other than poker with which is funny
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because at the same time it's the it's
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it that the sort of dropped the casual
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homophobia couple of times where like
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spades getting questioned by the police
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and returns the other conferences what's
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your boyfriend getting at
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yeah because they're not shy about it in
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some cases but we can I you know they do
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sort of danced around it with Kairos
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character it feels like yeah but I I was
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like the Houston made sure that it was
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there even if the sensors didn't catch
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it even if the audience didn't catch it
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it was there and it's you know it's
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pretty faithful to the book that way
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oh yeah all those times we've gotten is
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saying I couldn't be funder of you or
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fewer my own such patent but you go to
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the palace
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anyway i'll get another one but if you
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lose a son you can always get another
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there's always the one in maltese falcon
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I literally in my notes it says i have
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no idea what's happening just like all
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right well but again I just sort of road
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so I mean I didn't I didn't hate this
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movie by any stretch of the imagination
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but you know that the the plot left me
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frustrated and it it felt really slow to
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to warm up and I didn't really enjoy
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Humphrey Bogart very much and I didn't
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believe the relationship at all and so I
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eye out for a few of these movies that
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we watch for the old movie club we get
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to the end and there's a but I love you
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I'm like come on
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no you don't get to just and I guess
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this is just a shorthand of the time
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maybe but it's like I do
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believe it i never saw it i don't
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believe either of these characters has a
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legitimate feeling toward the other at
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all they're both just in it for the for
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the money or the revenge or whatever so
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that that was a that was a problem you
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know Jason if you go back and watch it a
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couple years later I would be interested
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to see if you because I that's exactly
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how I felt after the first time I saw it
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and I liked it a lot more simply i think
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I was really intrigued by the plot i was
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you know what
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not literally but on the edge of my seat
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is really excited because I didn't
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remember exactly how it played out
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because there's so many twists and turns
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of course I wasn't going to remember so
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I was excited to find out where it went
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so at least I had that you are
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definitely rewards multiple really
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watches we're hungry upset watches you
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pick up a little more of the plot but
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you have the plot twists the evil
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imagination mr. yeah and I don't it's
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either kind of dig the mythology of the
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plot in terms of the whole setup with
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the you know the the Knights Templar as
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in here historically inaccurate as many
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parts of it are but I was on the last
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crusade biting school yeah and i think
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the end of it too is the is the part
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that most people probably remember even
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if you don't remember the rest of the
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film is the fact that it turns out to be
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a fake right you know and so in them in
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essence the plot doesn't matter because
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everybody's been fighting and arguing
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over this thing that is worthless and so
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I think that's you know government and
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the exact sense yeah exactly ultimate
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MacGuffin yeah and so in that case I
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think that's the guy I don't know III
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and I don't have a great i agree with
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Steve that after you watch it a few
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times like the plot does start to hang
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together a little bit better put the
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same time it's not what makes this film
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stand out to me I i would also say that
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may be the end of the movie is a little
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bit of john huston's fault i I've never
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found him to be the moat the warmest or
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or most humane director I i was going to
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say I've been maybe have been spoiled by
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the likes of Hitchcock and Kubrick in
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the north at we've watched the Houstons
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direction here is really pedestrian yeah
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yeah he is not that I'm i pulled up his
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filmography on on IMDb and not i'm
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having a hard time finding movies of his
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that I i really go for I like the
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asphalt jungle I think that's a that's a
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good one and the treasures here moderate
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treasure this treasure Sierra Madres
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yours good key largo is good but in
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defense of his direction in this movie I
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the moment when Wilmer wakes backup and
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yes even shot a glooming oh yeah those
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are great that's a great one also i
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noticed that if you when you watch it
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again like the the reference with which
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the camera treats the falken is kind of
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great because every time it's in the
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scene its kind of the center of the
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action like the bundle and the falken
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all that he does a great job of that
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there's a couple other little shots two
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in particular the the shower bogar
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answers the phone and its government on
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the other end there's a nice little zoom
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in and broker yeah sort of perks up
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there so that I agree that you know a
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lot of it does seem kind of pedestrian
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but there are a few little standout
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moments here and there where he does
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when he takes more risks the stuff ends
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up paying off a little better and I feel
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like me if there's anything he didn't
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doesn't take enough risks here and there
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are some subtle things too like you get
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no but my camera was the very first team
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with Peter Lorre we have a really nice
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low angle looking up Peter Lorre because
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he's got the upper hand in that
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conversation and all the shots of bogey
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are pretty much straight on and you get
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that kind of recurring throughout the
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film when you get those scenes with with
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multiple people in them talking to each
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the camera is not it's not a POV from
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the other people in the room
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it's kind of a very subtle you know tilt
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in one direction or the other depending
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on who has the upper hand in that
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conversation I'm just used to know are
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being full of a lot of a lot of shadow
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play and the camera almost being like a
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secondary character like a narrator kind
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of poking you go and look at this look
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the Rope is hanging out of the thing and
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and there's just none of that in here
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maybe that maybe my expectations were
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set incorrectly but really the only
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place where that happens here is right
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at the beginning where you know miles
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and spay or Archer and spade is
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projected all over the office from their
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windows later Samuel spade though
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they're into there are two things i
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think that contribute to that the you
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before they shot a single frame he wrote
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out a very detailed script with every
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shot in the script and he gave that to
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the actors so that they would go and
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rehearse without him and he might find
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tune stuff that they were doing on the
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set but for the most part they're kind
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of doing it by themselves and he didn't
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want to deviate from any of the things
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he had planned out
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of time how much is that as a first-time
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director exactly
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yeah exactly the other thing is they
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shot the entire movie in sequence which
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you almost never do
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oh wow so you can see as the film goes
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on the shots get better and and the
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characters get a little more interesting
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and took like two and a half weeks to do
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there's another john huston movie that I
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watched like a lot of last year it's a
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with Humphrey Bogart and Peter Lorre
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it's called beat the devil
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that's good that's one of my dad's
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favorite oh I I didn't like it at all
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uh-huh I'm with you on that yeah the
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only part I like this there's a shot
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with with Gina will look Lola bridge'
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that's easy for me to say attention and
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she is framed like the prow of a ship
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and in the background jennifer jones is
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doing stretches that's a good shot but
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the rest of the movie is just garbage
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and haha plus them being funny and
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self-indulgent yeah I I think that's
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just a that's a drunken romp by the by
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the cast and crew exact that was
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intended to be a serious movie
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no it was not i was going to agree with
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Erica about the first scene between
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spade and in Cairo is it's not flashing
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a shot but it is very well shot as you
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move back and forth between the two of
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where the camera is yes he's letting the
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actors go and especially Peter Lorre and
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I think one of the things about Humphrey
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Bogart's performance in this movie is
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that he's being very generous uh too
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especially Peter Lorre Peter Lorre
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steals every scene in this movie
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yes I I mean he's just the only oddities
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it won't everything's odd but the only
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things that seem false is a when Bogart
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punches him and he flies through the air
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into the couch and then uh and then when
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he cries after this is doing the UU
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bloated idiot you imbecile that those
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don't come off quite as well as
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everything else in the movie but he
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steals like you know when he goes out
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when the police are there he says well
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it's getting very late may just have to
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many it it's just beautiful yeah you
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know our conversations are not such that
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I i want to continue down this isn't it
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wonderful how he plays with his cane uh
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it's all that one of the canyon which is
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which is all children which is also this
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can obviously another you know
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homosexual the single reason which which
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is all you need to do in in a code in
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1941 movie
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yeah that men and things that smell like
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gardenias about the little piano trail
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that they play whenever they catch a
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whiff of the Guardian gets the boot that
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is one thing i don't know it
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this I don't think I noticed this in
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yeah that's my nickname different
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different internet porn stage name one
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former detective who who married a
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better make sense
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angry and and when he wants to go away
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move easy
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yeah easy he's not Sydney Greenstreet
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come on know where the Thin Man refers
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to his corpse after ACL it tonight our
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definitely getting LOL everyone and
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girlfriend who pencil there they're not
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tell anyone where he is going not even
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his attorney for his daughter or his
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daughter almost gonna miss her wedding
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he's no one has heard from him
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everybody disappears and then kills
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everyone yeah there are like two
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different stereo typical Italian
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mobsters and one of them gets it and and
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finally Nick investigates the case he's
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brought into it he drinks continuously
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throughout the movie
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yes does his well as this is offered at
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one point yeah and that's how you know
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he's getting serious
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eventually he he solves the plot and
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caused everyone to the accusing parlor
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her for a little bit of a party a party
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didn't already have a party in which he
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breaks down basically whodunit and I
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just want to say I've seen this movie
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four five maybe six times and each time
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I forget who did it and I've always
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surprised by I always think it's that
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kid the Sun with the cycle
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diversification Gilbert that crazy crazy
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son happy Cesar Romero he's gonna know
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it's not Cesar Romero you idiot
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the secret is it changes every time yeah
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just haven't noticed because that's what
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Cesar Romero playing tanner is Chris
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yeah no resources presidential race 11
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yeah he's already married to a another
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lady quite frankly is my favorite
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character in this movie outside of nick
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and nora is cesar romero
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and just the way someone suggested he
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gets a job and the baleful look he gives
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that is because he believes that he
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wordlessly walks out of the room doesn't
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have a lot of dialogue but man he
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executes oh man that is that is great
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anyhow as you can tell I can't make
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heads or tails out of this plot mostly
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the movie exists for William palette
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Myrna Loy to say witty things to each
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other and in that the movie delivers in
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in spades
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they every moment there on the screen is
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a joy every interaction they have with
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each other is a joy the first 10 minutes
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where they are not anywhere to be seen
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is not good is not good and I thought
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your way people are going to turn off
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this movie and murder me every part of
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the problem isn't the end and the other
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chump her husband her husband-to-be rise
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spy simple yeah jamie is doing is he
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doing like a cut-rate Jimmy stored
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impression through this entire movie
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it's funny you should say that since
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Jimmy's business in the is in the sequel
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I just gotta Zeppo Marx feel out of him
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to be on a man he listened it was a
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richness of the foam our hardest thing
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you've ever said there is no go back at
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some point go back and listen to his
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dialogue delivery just because like my
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nigga I think he's swell also is where
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you're going the old man i'm crazy about
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you a darte perhaps Jimmy Stewart is
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doing an impression of this guy just
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asked with a better that you have
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backwards that's what I want to remember
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they only had sound for seven years and
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film by this point it's so everybody
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sounded like you was running like that
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my favorite is Julia who you know you
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can't trust because a woman who cannot
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pronounce the word you should never be
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trusted
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what are y'all going to do it's one
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solid also i enjoyed yes I enjoyed the
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later on pronunciation of suspects the
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snacks back-walking backs
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yeah everybody agreed on that in this
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movie is well pronouncing the verb
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instead of the noun
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well you know my father was a
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sexagenarian know
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is that what that means also hid the
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fact that the the cop the lieutenant is
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looks like a dead ringer for josh brolin
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got that whole like we're too haha thing
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going on leave my wife and I Lisa
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Schmeisser of other podcast we liked him
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we liked to sit around and recast old
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movies when we watch them and she said
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well obviously josh brolin yeah
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also my favorite bit of this entire
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movie is at the end where he reveals
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that that my name is dead daughter
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freaks out this is at the dinner party
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and he says it's terrible i have to tell
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you this way like you set this all up
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you couldn't hold her any other way
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doesn't care he's so loaded i know i
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love i agree with feel that there were
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in power mirror lawyer the entire reason
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for well yeah over here and there is no
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other reason to watch this movie
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wrong wrong wrong you guys have theirs
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but they also have a dog okay there is
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one of the reason and him that reason is
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asta as a matter of fact that was pretty
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much the only part of this movie that
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Stephen my husband paid attention who i
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was when i was watching it and then we
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watched we watch The Maltese Falcon
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afterwards several days later and he was
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sort of watching the credits out of the
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corner of his eye and he saw Mary asters
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name and got really excited for a second
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about the dog with map that's right i
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enjoy throughout this film be the dog
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cutaways that happened quick and a dog
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doggy a balloon at mascus is utterly
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delighted 1934 they were ridiculously
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clichéd and tired either two dogs were
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new in 1934 the dog bits were
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interesting in that when he's so when
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when he goes to the the dr e or the
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smelting whatever it is and figures out
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immediately what he already knows
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because it's really obvious that the guy
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never made it to his mystery vacation
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what I like about it is that instead of
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having that moment where the dog like
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does trained dog things
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the dog is just like in the way and yeah
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it's like moving the dog and pick the
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dog up and I like that because it was
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like it an untrained dog like an actual
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like a real dog yeah there's a few times
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with the movie sort of head fakes
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towards a clichéd situation like nick
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is alone in a room with a pretty rural
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Nora looks in and obviously is not
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jealous she knows they're the perfect
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all there's nothing going on here I i
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noticed that too that's actually a good
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i could easily been like a very like a
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setup as a jealousy scene and was not
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which is great
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yeah we've seen that a million times one
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of the nice things about the first thing
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man film because there were there are
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five more
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there are many more yes of vary in
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quality yeah steadily declining but this
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is the only one that was written and
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released before the Hollywood code and I
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know there's a little more maturity to
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the relationships and there's a little
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more you know a long run during divorce
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have some great great double entendre he
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saw it all
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yeah haven't heard of the Sullivan act
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oh that's all right we're married yeah
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it says here you were shot five times
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the tabloids he never came near my
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tabloids thats related to come anywhere
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near my tablet there are laughs I mean
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you know for a movie that is what like
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80 years old there are laugh-out-loud
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lines in this movie that are still
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incredibly well-written and very clever
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I mean it's it won't surprise anyone
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this is in my top 10 may be in my top
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i love i love the movie because of their
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relationship in the banter and the
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chemistry is fantastic chemistry is
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fantastic and it you know again amazing
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to think the studio didn't want either
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one of them they thought she was too
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much of an oriental beauty and they
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didn't think they thought William Powell
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was too refined he could also a oriental
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dirty but yes he has an oriental beauty
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but yeah they didn't think he could play
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a sardonic and rye and they just thought
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he was too nice and it's like oh my god
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they're the perfect casting for this and
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which is funny because this became his
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screen persona where its radar Donna can
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dry evenin mr. Roberts this is basically
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what if we took the Thin Man itself to
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World War two
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I just love the entire concept of days
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detective agency
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oh yeah not such a great setup i love
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the fact that instead of being you know
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hard knuckled you know guy who's he's
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confident in himself because he's tough
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and and can punch out whatever palooka
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happens to come by
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NIC is confident because he loaded the
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whole time
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yeah it's brilliant his devoted wife is
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equally loaded magnetic it when he first
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meet her and she meets in the hotel's
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trailing the dog
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sheshe her direction to the bartender is
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line up five martinis right here
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yeah and I wrote down at that point my
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god it's the perfect woman
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how many of you had six lineup five more
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than a lot of light-up well yeah it you
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get the sense that since since their
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independently wealthy what you've got
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here is a mystery solving for sport
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right so they're having a good time
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they're having a lot of some drinks and
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he's gonna kind of like plus you get the
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sense with him like I can figure this
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out like like he's he's retired at this
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but he was very good at it and now he's
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just screwing around but he's still so
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much better than everyone else that he's
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going to be able to put it all together
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yeah why I could figure this out three
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sheets to the wind and and entertain
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himself while doing it because I so
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watching this movie um the first yeah
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the first 10-15 minutes is really rough
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because it's melting angry man and you
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smell Angry Men smelting 12 Angry
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smokiness and along with some here and
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then he's angry his girlfriend and
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there's bonds where the bonds and I just
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I was just no I'm saying but but and I
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feel like I i liked it more with every
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scene and i feel like when i got to the
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end and I saw that the scene which is
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that classic i'm going to get
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that classic i'm going to get
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right it says he likes together exactly
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right but the way it's done here I i
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watch that scene i thought okay i see
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what people love this movie because even
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if the the movie up to that point has
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got you know it the plot is kind of
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twisty and planned and not that
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interesting and and that there's good
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banter between Nick and Nora but this
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scene if you leave at the end of this
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scene this is your last thing in the
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well I understand why everybody would
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walk out with a smile because it is the
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set piece that is like almost like Marx
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Brothers level in its insanity it is set
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up by Nick I I feel like gleefully like
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I'm just going to screw with everybody
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by doing this crazy much chaos as
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possible it's going to be a party to i'm
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going to just serve drinks and we're
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gonna have we're gonna go with them
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place cards the murderer is right in
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this room at this table serve the fish
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right so it just a minute just a
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minister of the not so it's easily
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seraphic guess not it's like that Agatha
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Christie kind of the you know or or the
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classic detective I wonder why you all
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you know you wonder why I called you all
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here tonight except totally insane the
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people don't want to be there which i
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really like that if you tried to get all
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your suspects together they wouldn't
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have a cocktail
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so yeah a cocktail I got a feeling of
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wanting to have a drink so good so that
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was for me that was like the moment
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where I just I just completely gave into
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this movie and just started cackling at
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every also there's right before that
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there's the great montage that's like a
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newspaper a map a bus cars a silhouette
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a dog with there's the photoshoot of the
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duct with the dog for the newspapers
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right that's all really funny and then
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you get into the that the party is like
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of course Nicanor casita first off again
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he doesn't care he's just messing around
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and while he's messing around he will oh
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yes solve the murder that befuddled the
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police and it's just a tour-de-force
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that whole scene I feel the basic
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dynamic of nick and nora is that Nick is
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entertained by the world and nora is
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entertained by Nick yeah she spends most
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of the movie in fact most of the movies
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prodding him to get involved in this
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will be its not until 15 minutes into a
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90-minute movie that he finally says
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alright fine i'm taking the case and it
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literally like okay if you want me to
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solve the murder that's been be
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funneling everyone all this time all
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right i'll do it because he he could do
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it each
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yeah care is was trying to retire sensor
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off to Grant's Tomb i love that but how
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is girl lovely i'm having a copy made
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for you can find that scene is is there
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is is again the chemistry between those
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two there have been several places in
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the film where they're sort of making
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faces at each other
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she's got this little scrunchy face she
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makes at him and that seems she's on the
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phone she knows he can't see her but
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she's still making the scrunchy face and
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I think that's just such a sweet moment
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and you know he knows she's doing it
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there's some great background acting
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early in the movie like 16 minutes and
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we're McCauley is on the phone
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yes she has nice track on her head and
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easy pumpkin at her she's not looking at
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him and they're just ignoring the movie
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completely and it and it seems really
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doesn't seem contrived no yeah the most
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charming that's the most charming moment
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I think of the entire movie
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yeah even the contrived know it's like I
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like the scene with the the beginning
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the mobster in the bedroom with a gun
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oh he likes socks her to get her out of
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the way of the of ago shot and it seems
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everything and then gets shot himself
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oh yeah and he gets shot he's like no no
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it's just that whatever let's just go to
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what and then when they wake up I'm like
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yeah when you punched your wife in the
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face and knocked her out the best way to
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wake up is by pouring with words written
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down her throat
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absolutely yeah well she's a girl with
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hair on her chest not gonna mention that
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this movie has there's a girl with hair
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on her chest which is a good comparison
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to maltese Falcons you're a good man
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the other thing I enjoy about the Nick
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character is it especially saying
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contrast to Sam Spade all of nick's
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friends are are lowlifes people he set
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up the river and oh yeah nikli seems to
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have set yet pretty much every criminal
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in Manhattan to jail at some point and
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most of them are buds with him yet none
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of them hold a grudge and this happened
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this happens throughout the the Thin Man
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movies it's nick remember when you
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testified against me you got me fair and
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square LED with my upper cut
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yeah when the guy comes to the door and
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he's like I haven't seen you in a long
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time while I needed the rest
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there's a strong implication that he was
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the super hard-bitten two-fisted guy
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because there's the line you don't have
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to tell me you're tough i heard about
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you that he was out Philip Marlowe
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around before he got
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romance and add in the book I mean
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there's only one actual book that he
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wrote with Nick and Nora and and it came
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out for months before the movies they
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were already making the movie before it
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came out and I and I went oh yes i have
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to read this because i love the movie
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and the the book is much more Sam
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Spanish I mean there is the relationship
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there is the banter between them but
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he's much more of a jerk and it's not as
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much fun and it's if you love the movies
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don't really want your it's a lot unless
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it's a lot
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what is it like just like grittier and
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yes right well yes stuff of the family
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the Winans is all kind of you get detail
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creepier and you don't you don't want
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detail there
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imagine Gilbert but not played for
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laughs right yeah where is the movie now
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and again all of the things in the movie
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were already starting to be troops at
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the time you know gathering all the
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suspects doing and and so they're kind
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of making fun of that at the same time
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which is why that's so brilliant I mean
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if you want any Charlie Chan film if you
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can even find them these days or a of
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they did a couple of Ellery Queen films
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or any any kind of mystery from the
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thirties you will see the exact same
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template over and over and over and over
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and there's a reason this one indoors
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and it's it's malinois and the dialogue
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and the crackle is the plot the plot is
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terrible and yes even though I could
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follow it look let's just say the cops
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are really not good at their jobs come
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into a room and you slide them with
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cocktail is so obvious that if you have
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a guy who disappears
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I mean nick goes to the ghost of the
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smelting whatever and end with his dog
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and within like five minutes has figured
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out that the guy must have have already
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been killed which is it's really obvious
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and even when they find the body
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the cops are like oh this must have been
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one of his victims really good really
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nice man they buried it with that pants
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got that giant pair of pants come on
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well the site this is the scene though
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at the dinner party where you mentioned
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the cops were like I added
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lieutenant was turned off for awhile
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business yeah we could skip past that
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policy that like that is good yeah yeah
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I'd like to defend these cops because
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unlike the cops and most detective
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stories especially hard-bitten detective
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stories they know they're terrible as
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soon as they didn't hire him Randy Paige
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kicked enjoyed this health through like
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there's no Daisy ominous as soon as nick
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says I'm sort of interested what do you
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know they're like yours every single
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thing you know yeah yeah we would
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welcome any help you can give us please
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fix this florist that they are like one
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step ahead of the cops in the 1966
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Batman series
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yeah Batman helped us please a little
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Commissioner ok when done time skips out
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on him you know he started Nick starts
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calling up the football you can call
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your friends they can feel it trailer
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lou i will say there's there is one
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other character apart from Nicanor who
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is delightful and that's not his
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girlfriend
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yes whoo yes we have yet we had a
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spectacular part because not only you
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know we first see her but not the first
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time here but the second time was here
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she gets to throw a frying pan
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essentially at the camera yeah you gotta
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speak that's great and then she has
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built that you know the thing I I don't
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like crooks if i did like crooks like I
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wouldn't like stool pigeons and if i did
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like stool pigeons I wouldn't like you
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and then stomps out and then she gets
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invited to the dinner party I don't
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think she and the other hood kind of
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make an instant connection at the dinner
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party has felt in here too
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yeah like they've known each other for
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years it's also great that I mean again
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the whole trip of inviting everybody is
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like that
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yeah a dozen of these people it doesn't
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matter if they're they're like this it
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really matter if she's there no but like
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a you get a free dinner out of the day
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there are so many people at the party
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that at one point I was thinking or do
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they have like two tables like you know
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at thanksgiving weekend like that a the
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guests over here and the suspects sort
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of this table suspect
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well since everyone was very thin back
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then yeah i think at all
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well let especially that old gay but
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Miss a man who weighs 250 pounds has to
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be crippled carrying around all that way
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to you imagine a five foot eleven
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250-pound man that's crazy that's insane
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yes yes never came i like the the
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mobster who we know is a mobster because
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when we first see him he's an extreme
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click yes and he has a scar on his face
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and a hat like that one time
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that's a month that's a mobster is that
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is that none time that is not starting
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from your head man he's Jon Lovitz by
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way of robert downey yes yes yes yes yes
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i love that I love that character is
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Tommy Flanagan and he's really
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interesting too because because he's
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sort of like just us two facets he's
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very making wimpy-butt when he's in
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person but on the phone he's very creepy
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he's medicine that's right yeah does
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have a kind of a bifid character he's
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the 1930s whatever version of the
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internet tough guy
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yeah he's cool he's a troll
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it's funny that he did someone mention
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Robert Downey jr. because I feel like
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he's kind of channeling and channeling
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william powell in the latter half of his
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career basically yeah mostly
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totally yeah yeah totally no I the one
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thing I i think when i watch The Thin
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Man is black i wish that movies today
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have the chemistry that a william powell
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and Myrna Loy have this movie network
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technology amazing without with a better
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script obviously i'd like to take the
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opportunity to recommend if you enjoy
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the chemistry of Nick and Nora Charles
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in the thin man listening to the
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thrilling adventure hour broadcast
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specifically the beyond belief segments
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in which paul f tompkins and paget
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Brewster are basically doing Nick and
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Nora Charles except also they see ghosts
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yeah which-which you won't necessarily
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it you're not guaranteed elected if you
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like naked or if it's possible they're
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drunker
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ya hear that Nicanor if they continue
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with the drinking at the level they are
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they will they will be seeing ghosts
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before long it's true
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ironically the I think the awesome
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chemistry between William Powell and
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Myrna Loy Myrna Loy whom I would watch
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pretty much do anything I love her so
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he's quite yeah is why is why i think i
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movies dosey doe in my head because I
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had really like the thin man you you are
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a strange person haha the reason the
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it I was discovering them doing this for
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realize how much of the movie has you
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know a lack of them
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haha to watch everything yeah and then
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the first time because i was just
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completely dazzled by their chemistry
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and their banter and this time because
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you know i was still enjoying it but I
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was also trying to focus more on the
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plot which yeah is kind of kind of lame
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so I I still completely loved to watch
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the two of them together and i adore
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they had the dinner scene hefty and
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because it's just one hundred percent
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delightful but but yeah I think if i
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were to watch it again i would probably
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be a little bit better because I
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wouldn't be expecting quite as much
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screen time for the two of them and
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that's where I fell down for me
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well to erica's point the the i have not
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seen this movie in about 30 years and
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the Nick and Nora interplay and their
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characters are so strong that i really
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didn't remember anything else about the
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movie and so when I was watching the
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first 10 minutes of the movie I said
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I thought I gotta get all this as I'm
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looking at it and then and then you
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finally get the scene in a hotel where
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norwich is the you know possibly the
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greatest entrance ever is nor coming in
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pulled along by Aston dropping all the
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packages and falling on her face
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that's how I thought the movie started
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that in my head that was me that was the
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beginning of the movie and in fact you
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know it is the beginning of the real
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movie everything before then is you've
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got a guy who is somehow both
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absent-minded absent-minded genius but
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also a really angry man who wants to
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kill people you know generally check
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itunes to see if I had accidentally
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started the first 10 minutes are very
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confusing
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I know the pacing at the beginning of
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the movie is terrible because there's 11
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minutes without Nick and Nora but at the
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end of the movie there is two minutes
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between here's who the murderer is and
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the movie is over
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oh yeah yeah and in that two minutes we
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have time for Nick and Nora to go off
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and have sex
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yeah the movie ends with him jumping her
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bones as he clearly should which is yes
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there's none of this chase separate beds
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bullcrap
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yeah this is a married couple they're
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going to have sex now that's the end of
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goodnight everybody dogs going on the
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top shelf I'm going on Nora but they
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that they do have separate beds
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too early don't use them yeah but it's
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just it's it's still there and he even
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Tommy and Dorothy seem to have sex which
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is unbelievable I mean especially
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because it's a pretty look at those yeah
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it seemed hard I don't know it's not
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working what's the deal with Gilbert
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just a window
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Oh everybody wants a strange
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What's Eating little girls dream he's
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the young version of human cronin in I
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that's right i do and i saw i don't know
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i was gazing in my crystal ok we just
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start eyes it's like out everybody's put
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all rellium Morelli hold your knife some
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other way you're worried and Gilbert ooh
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I'm gonna suggest that it's possible
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that Gilbert smells of gardenias
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interesting i just like that how closely
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Stanton at like the I've never seen a
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dead body before data that don't come
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down with us we love will bring the body
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up to you
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yeah that was good they're all put off
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and that will not stop it like cycling
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into the elevator
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he's funny he's a little over the top
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but it's almost like he dropped in from
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another movie yeah I think he's Lisa was
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what we watched it together and she was
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pointing out that he's a parody of a
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certain kind of night late 1920s early
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nineteen thirties fo intellectualism ah
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but it's kind of a weird that stuff yeah
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yeah basically just said I'm looking I'm
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book smart but not street smart is to
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show you that that whole family is
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screwy base ya know
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well even the cop gets to look down on
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him he probably has a slim volume of
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poetry bounded limp leather the governor
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sullivan reference deal with that so i
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have a few disparate notes as my want
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with movies that i really like for
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starters what is with the thimble posing
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as a cocktail glass when they're
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drinking martinis their these miniscule
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they're more like I'm are tiny now
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that's that's why they have to drink 30
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of them i guess that was this that was
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the style at the time i'm glad we moved
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past those oh yeah now we have comical
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novel the novelty-sized glasses so it's
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only the word martini doesn't mean
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anything i love the party scene because
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i love that we get to go through every
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single type of drunken this is
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mother and my father bother you got the
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barely coherent smiling bum who thinks
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Nick's wife is great guy
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weeping into his high ball for no reason
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the lecherous old creep journalists I
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mean they're all here it's it's just
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hard asses and then the the Isle of the
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punchline there too which is owned nikki
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i love you because you have such lovely
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people and I think she's only half
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joking there
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no she's not joking Julie all yeah she
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thinks this is neat
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yeah she's totally insist on it i think
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the single greatest moment in the film
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for me is probably when the cops are
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fishing around in the dresser and they
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find the gun and Nora says what's that
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man doing in my drawer it's rather see
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and there's the most unbelievable tier
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inducing reaction shot of power just so
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over-the-top that's his second biggest
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take I think my god he has another take
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ending scene i forget what she says but
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he didn't make any sense it's the was
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just a particular a twinkle in my father
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my father oh yeah i mean my father's one
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away by that point I like when she says
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oh it's um being not helpful 0 so it's
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someone for you as behind her is a guy
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with a gun like this really doesn't
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usually go this guy came for you I I I
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wanted to call out how great the
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lighting in the scene where he's
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searching the shop is which is just
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basically shadows and the flashlight and
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I can flash light beam
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I mean it's such a it's such an
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otherwise light movie and yet there's
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this this moment where it's just
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marvelously creepy as he's kind of
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searching through the show my notes say
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what could a good director have done
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with that soon going to take let's say
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three take strong words for WS vandyke I
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think it's just too muddy
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i I don't I just didn't I think that you
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know a real director with a reader with
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a real cinematographer who isn't
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shooting a movie in 14 days might have
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been able to like that a lot better and
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make it look more menacing I just think
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I think the whole scene looks muddy at
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the version i watch the stream version
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on on amazon and it was just a also ate
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terrible print like a really grainy and
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scratchy like that that movies in need
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of a good just sort of restoration
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answering restoration whatever wake ya i
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could be that my DVD is a bad copy
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yeah my final yeah I don't yeah mine is
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yours to the Amazon version is pretty
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sure i had the I itunes stream and it
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was not not very good
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that's it's pretty pretty ragged I think
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that scene works for me because it's
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muddy I mean if it lasted any longer it
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would have been irritating but because
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of the fact that it's so dark and
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there's so little that you can make out
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and it actually works for me but I got I
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get your point i wanted to mention the
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the weird pronunciations we mentioned
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suspect's later but also we get perhaps
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it was the work of a sadist or paranoia
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a think that's why they're suspicious of
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him maybe it's just killed guys gonna
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replace this dialogue with interstitials
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later right
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yeah status is just someone who's really
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sad Jason yeah it's not just really sad
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the most said he gets off on being so
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it's clearly a bookish kid when you read
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a lot of books and don't hear words said
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you pronounce them wrong so last thing I
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wanted to mention i just wanted to call
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out how wonderful i find Nora's wardrobe
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mm almost every dress she comes out and
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looks like a freeze frame from the chest
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burster seen an alien i can't miss I
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actually have a at one of my notes just
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says best period pantsuit period ever
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look fantastic do you have an evening
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yeah it's a little too literally of
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course she does look at her
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do you have and she's a she's a rich
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heiress of course she has a part yeah
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sure she even makes the ice pack bag
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tied to her head look wonderful in that
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in that early scene yeah like maybe
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that's the thing people are doing now in
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her robe oh my god i want that robe so
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one other character that I did I liked
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um who has almost no screen time
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whatsoever is Jorgensen's wife the first
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mrs. Jordan first mr. engine yeah and
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when she's she said Park it over there
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sister I've been mrs. Jorgenson for a
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longer than you have
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yeah great if you really like William
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Powell here and you're willing to take a
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slight downgrade in his partner i
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strongly recommend my man godfrey oh
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you're great my man godfrey has Carole
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Lombard was not quite Myrna Loy but is
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very to do good all right Phil what we
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learned
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I i sometimes placed a little bets with
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myself on which movie will be the better
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regarded and I've never lost tonight but
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you know if that's ok i'm glad that you
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enjoyed one of the two movies that we
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curated for you
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well I it's not an area i don't you have
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lunch already done the maltese falcon I
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died too and I'm happy to be here now
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you've ruined my oh my I will say I I
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think maybe I decided to I don't like
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film noir I think maybe I've decided I
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think I think that's what we've
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discovered and you've broken you've
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broken my heart
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yes missing out missing are now well
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apparently not based on what I've seen
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anyway maybe not my cuppa tea hot tea
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it's coffee black like your soul yeah I
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want a movie with the with Nick and Nora
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yeah the fat man meets the thin man
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Oh probably out there
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well we're gonna we're going to button
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up the old old movie club again
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yep button it up button up as we do
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its pockets and look at it's a look at
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its belongings old movie club where we
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take old movies and hit them with a
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large stick old movie club smells of
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gardenias
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yellow trill couldn't we just hit the
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movies with the club
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ok soon we had an old movie club and
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yeah we club musical movies that's it
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with you because you solved the name of
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the thing
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Monty I Erica enzyme thank you for being
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here that these were these are in your
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room or in your time period
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yes I this is I have been thrilled to be
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watching movies not only that I've
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already seen but that I that I really
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liked him and by GAD sirs you are chaps
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worth knowing
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amazing call oh aight all sluts thank
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you thank you Jason if they hang you
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I'll always remember you
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uh-huh are you some sort of status or
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paranoia a monte Ashley thank you
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haven't you heard the news
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I'm a gentleman that smells of gardenias
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and everything David Laura thank you i
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am i'm gonna go cheer myself up by
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watching the third man again
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yeah that's on tonight it is good
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morning thank you very much
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it's the only way it makes sense Jason
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dr. drank thank you for joining us and
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not just in the chatroom it was nice
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having you here
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well thank you the best goodbyes are
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short to do and Philip Michael thank you
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for once again curating our old movie
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well jason has always say when we set
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off all we've got is that maybe you love
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me and maybe I love you i'll have some
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brought nights after i sent you over
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and everybody out there thanks for
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listening a good night i'm going to
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sleep with crumpled newspapers around
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the bed in case somebody tries
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