417: ‘Nothing Is Possible’, With Paul Kafasis
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Well, Paul, we have a lot of stuff to talk about, including even about this show itself,
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but I've got James Bond on my mind.
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Is that unusual for you, though?
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No, not really.
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I mean, several times a day, at least, right?
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People know.
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One thing that's nice about having a lot of internet friends and being sort of public,
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at least with most of my interests on the internet, is people know what I like.
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So when the Humane HP acquisition broke the other day, my texts just lit up, and they were gold.
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I got so many good ones I can't talk about publicly from Apple people who do not like Imran Chowdhury
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talking about their absolute delight in thinking about him working at HP.
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Working at HP, yeah, right, right.
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But also this morning, my texts lit up with the news that Amazon has bought off the Broccoli family
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and bought creative control over the Bond movie franchise, and I'm depressed about it.
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I hope I'm wrong, right?
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I can't lose, I guess, in terms of if I'm wrong that they're going to wreck it.
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Because, well, what's the worst that can happen?
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I'm wrong, and they make good movies?
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They make good movies?
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And TV shows and cartoons and...
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Amazon's got all those great properties, like, you know, all those great shows that they put
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out that I...
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So I'm sure it's in good hands.
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Even the people who...
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And you know that my wife and I do not care for Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings movie series.
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You know the story, Amy, that's told about the first one, right?
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They're very long.
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They're very long.
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Well, not for her.
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The story, when I was suspicious, I loved the book.
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I'll try to keep this short, but I loved Tolkien's books.
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One of the few books I've ever read twice in my life.
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And I've always thought they were, to use a...
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You know, I guess the term is unfilmable.
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That whatever you try to commit to...
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Whatever it is that makes the books great is not really capturable on film.
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Can't capture it in film, okay.
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And I think Peter Jackson's versions not only don't come close, they didn't even try.
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And I really, really...
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I went to see the first one, The Fellowship of the Ring, in the theaters when it came out,
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because I had an open mind, gave it a chance, and I hated it.
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And so I haven't watched the other two, because I hated the first one so much.
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But it just really...
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I don't want to get into one.
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I just think they're dreadful.
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But my wife liked it even less.
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And while we were in the movie theater, in whatever year that came out,
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she started fishing around her purse, found an Ambien, and popped it.
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Like she was going on an airplane.
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That's why she had it in her purse.
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She's like, I think I had this from the last time we were on a plane.
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Now I'm just going to cruise through this movie.
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And the movie was so long, and she made that decision so early into the movie.
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Did she wake up before the end?
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Well, no, then I just...
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I think she just sort of woke up with some applause at the end or whatever,
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and was like, is that it?
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And I was like, yes.
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And she was like, thank God.
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And then we just left.
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But anyway, Amazon, now having bought some sort of rights to Lord of the Rings,
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apparently spent like a billion dollars to produce like a TV series about it,
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that even people who like the movies admit was terrible,
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and caused Andy Jassy to ask them,
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why are we spending all this money on something people don't watch?
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So now they own Bond.
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This sounds good.
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You'll enjoy this.
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I did look up in my CMS the word or the name Broccoli out of curiosity,
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because Cubby Broccoli was one of the co-producers of the original movies,
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and then when he died, I don't know when,
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but his daughter Barbara, who's now 64, 65, crazy,
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because I think of her as the young Broccoli,
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and now she's like retired.
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I mean, she is at retirement age.
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She's been...
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Even she's wilting?
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She's been producing the movies for decades now,
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like through at least the last four actors to play the role,
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which is going back quite a bit.
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But I searched in the history,
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and I think I'm up to around 30,000 posts at Daring Fireball,
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give or take.
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Let's call it 30,000.
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Not once has the...
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Has the word Broccoli?
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Other than in the context of the Eon Productions' James Bond films,
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and there's like seven or eight of those.
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But if there are any other possible uses of the string Broccoli,
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which it kind of rings a bell,
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I've never used them.
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It's a ridiculous last name.
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I don't, you know,
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no matter how many billions of dollars they got for this,
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their last name is still Broccoli.
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Anyway, I did say...
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I should say this.
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This is the first episode of the talk show since,
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I don't know,
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like three weeks into December,
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when Vlad Prelawatz,
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founder and chief Poobah...
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What's your title at Rogue Amoeba?
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I think he has a similar one.
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CEO slash Lackey.
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Lackey, yeah.
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Well, I think he's the CEO slash Lackey at Kaji.
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I've already forgotten.
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He told me how to pronounce it on the show.
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The sieve that is my memory for how to pronounce things
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is already forgotten.
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I think for decades I've been pronouncing it Kaji
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since the shareware days
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when you were probably just a kid.
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And he corrected me and said it's Kagi.
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No, it's Japanese,
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and so it makes more sense that it's a hard G.
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But anyway, he was on,
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and it was...
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I don't know what people listening to the show...
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Did you happen to listen to that?
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I don't assume...
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I did not hear that one.
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And that's quite all right,
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it was a home run.
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Like, that was me catching...
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I really wanted that show to come out a certain way,
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and it really did.
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But then you took a break,
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so we don't...
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I'm not following in his footsteps, really.
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This show's gonna be terrible.
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Low expectations.
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I wasn't planning to take a hiatus,
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but I should have, really,
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because I kind of knew at the time
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that people...
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It's not unpleasant,
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but it's not pleasant either.
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The podcast industry is going through
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some turmoil
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when it comes to advertising
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and sponsorships,
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and at the end of the year,
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I switched representation
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of who's selling the ads for the show,
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and shocker,
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I kind of put off
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making the decision
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until later than I should have
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for a year-end transition
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and wound up with no sponsorships
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not through anybody's...
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So you get a little vacation.
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And quite frankly,
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once I took a little bit of a break,
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I kind of...
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It kind of felt like I needed one.
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I don't know.
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It's hard for me to explain
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because it's not...
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You know, you might say...
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You might look at the publication schedule
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of the talk show
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this doesn't look like
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back-breaking work groups.
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But I often say...
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And the longer I do it,
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the more it feels true to me,
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that I feel like I am a writer
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who has a podcast on the side.
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And it doesn't matter.
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I do feel...
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I hope I'm better at podcasting
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than I was when I got started
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and was really rough at it years ago.
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I think dithering is a lot of fun.
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We're actually approaching
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five years of dithering,
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which is mind-blowing to me
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because that still feels like
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my new podcast.
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That is still the new podcast.
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But it does not come naturally to me.
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And I'm not saying writing does,
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sort of does.
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I feel like...
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And if I didn't need any...
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If I were completely retired,
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independent,
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I'm not saying I wouldn't
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do this show anymore,
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but this show does feel
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like a job to me
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in a way that writing
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Daring Fireball doesn't.
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writing Daring Fireball,
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even though it is a job
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It is my business,
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I would do it anyway.
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I feel driven to do the writing
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in a way that I don't
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with the podcasting
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and that doing the podcasting
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exhausts me emotionally somehow
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in a way that writing
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exhausts me differently.
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and I've never wanted
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to take a month-long break
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from writing Daring Fireball
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and I think I would break out
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in a bad case
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of the heebie-jeebies
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Whereas a break from this show,
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I feel like I'm loose
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and I'm ready to go.
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but I feel...
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I don't know what to say to that.
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Is it going to be good?
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Is it going to be bad?
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I don't know.
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I feel like,
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And I mean this sincerely
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because I've started getting emails
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and like DMs
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from people asking
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is the show over?
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Because it's been gone
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for like four weeks?
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What are we at?
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I think it's going to be
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closer to eight weeks.
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It's February 20th, right?
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They knew you were alive at least.
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The website was still getting up.
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But I do think
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when shows take a break...
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Unannounced.
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When shows take a break,
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it's usually scheduled
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and they say,
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like the John Oliver,
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last week tonight,
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terrific show on...
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It used to be HBO.
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Now it's HBO.
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Just call it HBO.
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Cinemax Max Univision Plus
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or whatever it's called.
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I forget if he...
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I forget if he even made it
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to the election
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or if it was like,
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good luck with the election,
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see you next year,
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we'll be back in February.
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Usually they'll tell you...
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Up front ahead of time, yeah.
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much like the James Bond movies,
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for decades,
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with James Bond
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and for a long time
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they had a fun thing
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where they at least knew
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which Ian Fleming title
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they were going to do next
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and they'd say, like,
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James Bond will return
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in The Spy Who Loves Me
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and they wouldn't give you a year.
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They'd just let you know
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that he'll be coming back
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and I feel like
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I should have owed
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the talk show
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the talk show will return
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but it wasn't
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a planned hiatus
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Well, here we are.
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We'll also say...
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But I will also say,
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in the meantime,
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anybody out there,
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because I've...
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Not that the ad
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sold themselves
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but the spots
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sort of filled up
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and now are not.
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It's like a little
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self-promotion
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that if anybody out there
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has a product
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that you think
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would be a good
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the talk show sponsor,
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get in touch with me.
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Go to Daring Fireball.
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I'm gonna...
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I need to do it
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in between you and me
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talking right now
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and when this episode
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but it's a forcing function.
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I'll have to do it.
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But there will be
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information there
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on what to do
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if you want to sponsor
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the talk show
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instead of sponsoring
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Daring Fireball.
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But both have openings
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so get in touch with me.
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The talk show sponsorships
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are significantly less money
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than the weekly ones
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on Daring Fireball.
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So anybody who's thought
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I'd like to sponsor
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something Daring Fireball related
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but found the weekly sponsorship
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perhaps as too high of a price,
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the podcast is a perfect opportunity
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and just get in touch with me
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will make it work.
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the sponsor for this podcast
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kind of worked out
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just like that
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which I'll get to
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at a natural break.
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we're doing the ads
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for your show
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then later we'll do the ad
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for the sponsor.
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who won Super Bowl 59?
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Super Bowl 59
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was won by your
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Philadelphia ogles.
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My beloved Philadelphia eagles.
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I believe is how it's spelled.
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and I assume you saw the thing
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this is Philadelphia's mayor
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who misspelled eagles
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spelling out eagles.
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But I assume you saw the thing
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I believe was after the Super Bowl
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when she said that
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nothing is possible.
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she obviously was going to say
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nothing is impossible
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or anything is possible
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but she went with
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nothing is possible.
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God bless her.
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she don't talk so good,
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I don't know how she is
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I don't know enough
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about the politics there
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but I know she don't talk
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that at a podium
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in front of a crowd
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not just like
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in passing or whatever
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Sherelle Parker
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I'm not quite sure
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how to evaluate her
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for whatever reason
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and this is sort of
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the E-A-G-L-E-S
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I guess it was always
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sort of a thing
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but it's become
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10 years or so
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like when I was a kid
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I don't remember
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I think there was
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more of like
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a fight song
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that they'd play
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when they scored
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touchdowns and stuff
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of all the names
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the team could have
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it does kind of
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roll off the tongue
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if that's what you want
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is spell out
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the team name
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and then shout it
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I mean they stole it
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from the Jets
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I'm pretty sure
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the Jets have done that
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and that one
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four letters
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it's a lot harder
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J-E-T-S Jets
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yeah I'm gonna say
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they didn't steal it
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and it's sort of
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and maybe it's
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maybe it's the
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I don't think
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I mean when would
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you even hear about
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I mean they're not
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the Jets are right there
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they're like a minor league
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they're sucking 45 minutes
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away from Philadelphia
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they're not even in
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major league football though
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they're like a triple A team
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is that a knock
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or on the AFC
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I'm not the AFC
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that was true
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of the entire AFC
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when's the last time
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the Jets were in the playoffs
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quite a while
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don't ask Dingus
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Dingus doesn't know
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that's how we got
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into this mess
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that's exactly
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into this mess
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how did exactly
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we get into this mess
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did you start it
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no I started it
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but then you
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you set the snowball
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and then I had to
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follow up on it
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I started it
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because I was
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I needed to know
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who won Super Bowl 13
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because I was
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it was after
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no it was after
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that's what started it
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Sherelle Parker
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by misspelling Eagles
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with her chant
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which reminded me
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of Terry Bradshaw
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being criticized
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by an opposing player
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for not knowing
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how to spell
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the word cat
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if you spotted him
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just an insult
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engraved in my mind
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but apparently
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that was an insult
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what was his name
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Hollywood Henderson
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of your Dallas Cowboys
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laid down on Bradshaw
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before Super Bowl
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Super Bowl 13
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off the top of my head
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I did not know
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who won that Super Bowl
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and I wondered
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basically who got the better
00:15:16
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of that insult
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and so I asked Siri
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who won Super Bowl 13
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then everything went to hell
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there's also
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an interesting anecdote
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about Hollywood Henderson
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in-game nutrition
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when I was researching
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this I wound up
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NFL.com page
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their official website
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on the sidelines
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during that game
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Henderson used
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a nasal spray bottle
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containing water
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mixed with cocaine
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so I don't think
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they knew that
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although maybe
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we know it now
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the truth here
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I actually have to
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give them credit for
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you wouldn't expect
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to find that
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on the league's
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official website
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you wouldn't
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you would not
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entertainment
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they are very
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protective of their
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they're just
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very prickly
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get irritated
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wouldn't think
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should irritate
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they're happily
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willing to say
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yeah back in the
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it's like that's
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what a couple
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70s were crazy
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but Hollywood
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a transitional
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still playing
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the difference
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unrecognizable
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exaggeration
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was floating
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exaggeration
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purposefully
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highlighting
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Philadelphia
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participants
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Philadelphia
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unpredictable
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sporadically
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sporadically
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championship
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embarrassing
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championship
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championship
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intelligence
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impressively
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demonstrating
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intelligence
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responsibility
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conservative
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unsurprising
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overreacting
00:39:08
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controversial
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conservatives
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exaggeration
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independence
00:43:38
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controversial
00:45:07
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government's
00:45:40
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the official
00:45:48
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transitional
00:46:09
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lickspitalism
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international
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multinational
00:48:45
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consequences
00:49:38
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disinformation
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disinformation
00:51:01
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inauguration
00:51:58
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all I'll tease
00:52:31
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capitalization
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inconsistent
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inconsistent
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inconsistent
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inconsistent
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inconsistent
00:58:40
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intelligence
00:59:20
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intelligence
00:59:25
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intelligence
01:00:02
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intelligence
01:00:05
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introduction
01:00:10
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intelligence
01:00:12
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intelligence
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intelligence
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intelligence
01:00:40
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intelligence
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intelligence
01:01:13
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functionality
01:01:24
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intelligence
01:02:27
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regurgitation
01:02:59
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subsequently
01:03:12
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confirmation
01:03:16
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intelligence
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announcement
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intelligence
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disappointed
01:04:30
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intelligence
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intelligence
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intelligence
01:05:54
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functionality
01:06:01
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intelligence
01:06:03
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intelligence
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intelligence
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announcement
01:07:23
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announcement
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representatives
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representatives
01:08:38
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intelligence
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intelligence
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consistently
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without lowering
01:28:34
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intelligence
01:29:04
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construction
01:33:39
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automatically
01:34:18
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subscription
01:34:22
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subscription
01:36:15
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applications
01:38:01
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Rogue Amoeba
01:40:33
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paraphrasing
01:42:11
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environments
01:44:03
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architectural
01:44:38
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transcription
01:45:32
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functionality
01:46:58
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little script
01:47:02
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single version
01:47:15
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wikipedia is
01:47:18
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realized that
01:47:24
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that supported
01:47:37
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was announced
01:47:54
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that supported
01:47:57
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that they only
01:47:59
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very quickly
01:48:19
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right around
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they famously
01:48:28
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was supposed
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the original
01:48:48
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was the last
01:48:49
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supporting one
01:48:54
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transitional
01:48:58
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was multiple
01:49:04
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i've noticed
01:49:06
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that they've
01:49:07
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gotten mac os
01:49:08
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like clockwork
01:49:10
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annual schedule
01:49:14
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how irregular
01:49:15
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those updates
01:49:17
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in the middle
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priority was
01:49:36
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going to get
01:49:36
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an announcement
01:49:38
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that this is
01:49:40
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even know how
01:49:41
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they'll do it
01:49:43
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one that just
01:49:44
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says this is
01:49:44
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only for apple
01:49:45
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silicon yeah
01:49:45
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right that might
01:49:47
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surprised if
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i don't know
01:49:52
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really don't
01:49:54
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doesn't seem
01:49:54
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like it would
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unreasonable
01:49:56
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at this point
01:50:03
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i guess because
01:50:04
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they don't like
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putting bummer
01:50:07
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trombone noise
01:50:08
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in a keynote
01:50:09
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that will have
01:50:10
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to wait until
01:50:11
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after the keynote
01:50:12
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when people start
01:50:13
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installing the
01:50:14
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developer beta
01:50:15
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and they're like
01:50:15
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holy shit this is
01:50:16
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only for apple
01:50:17
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but i wouldn't
01:50:18
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be surprised if
01:50:19
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year when they
01:50:20
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say that because
01:50:20
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it's not even
01:50:21
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going to come
01:50:25
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they were selling
01:50:31
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i'm not quite
01:50:32
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that's only a
01:50:33
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two-year-old
01:50:34
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computer that
01:50:35
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that won't be
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supported if
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don't know i
01:50:38
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it's not something
01:50:39
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asked the question
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it's not something
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we're terribly
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worried about
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haven't had to
01:50:44
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right this supports
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mac os 15 but
01:50:46
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only on apple
01:50:47
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silicon it just
01:50:48
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hasn't been an
01:50:48
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issue but yeah
01:50:49
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sooner sooner or
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later they are
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going to ship an
01:50:51
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os that no longer
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supports intel i
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don't have i don't
01:50:54
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have a good sense of
01:50:55
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when yeah maybe
01:50:56
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from apple's
01:50:57
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perspective it's
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really not that
01:50:59
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big a deal to
01:51:00
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keep going that
01:51:01
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they really have
01:51:02
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reached a place
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in where 99% of
01:51:06
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their probably more
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99 point something
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percent of their
01:51:10
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software that even
01:51:12
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apple writes is
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hardware agnostic
01:51:16
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really it's not
01:51:17
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that much they're
01:51:17
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not really wasting
01:51:18
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much engineering
01:51:21
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continuing to
01:51:22
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support intel so
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why not whereas
01:51:24
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in those earlier
01:51:25
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transitions especially
01:51:26
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each one going
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back i think was
01:51:28
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more and more
01:51:29
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where the big
01:51:29
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chunks of the os
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for performance
01:51:31
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reasons were
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certainly in the
01:51:33
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68k to power pc
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transition in
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prehistoric times
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huge chunks of
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still written in
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assembly code so
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surprise that they
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tried to move
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people quickly but
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i don't know i had
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another question about
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this oh i know what
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it was it was
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basically that you
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guys i think rogue
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amoeba and what
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you guys do and
01:51:55
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the story of your
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20 some year saga
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which is very very
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very close to the
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i forget who
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started first
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daring fireball or
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i think you beat
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us by a month or
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two september
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2022 september
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2002 was us and
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what was yours
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august 13th i
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think 2000 okay
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so yeah like six
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weeks we started
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six weeks after you
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did yeah so very
01:52:14
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very close which
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is i don't know
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it just feels right
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just it seems right
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but in those days
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and you called it a
01:52:21
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hack but you're
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it's almost self
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deprecating it's
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it's like it was
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by design and it's
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been in very
01:52:30
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interesting 20 years
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in the industry and
01:52:32
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apple and mac os
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exemplifies it because
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the iphone debuted
01:52:37
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locked down and
01:52:38
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sandboxed but the
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transition that the
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mac has taken one
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step at a time
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towards this model
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that that insists
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and guarantees
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security and privacy
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through things like
01:52:50
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sandboxing and
01:52:51
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apis and the lack
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of software having
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access not just to
01:52:55
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the hardware but to
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the internals of
01:52:58
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other applications
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applications that
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was a feature of
01:53:03
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mac os 10 and a
01:53:04
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feature going back
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to next step and
01:53:08
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i'm i can't speak
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to uh small talk
01:53:11
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personally but in
01:53:13
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the way that from
01:53:14
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talking to developer
01:53:15
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friends who that
01:53:17
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small talk was this
01:53:18
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sort of academic
01:53:20
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something came out of
01:53:22
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xerox park i'm almost
01:53:23
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sure object oriented
01:53:25
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system that by
01:53:27
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design was sort
01:53:29
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of from an era
01:53:29
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when the users of
01:53:31
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computers and the
01:53:32
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programmers of
01:53:33
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computers were sort
01:53:34
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of the same like
01:53:35
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the just go back to
01:53:36
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the apple 2 or
01:53:37
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what'd you get when
01:53:38
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you booted up in
01:53:39
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apple 2 you got like
01:53:40
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a basic prompt
01:53:41
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right the idea was
01:53:42
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you didn't have to
01:53:43
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type like basic to
01:53:45
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start writing basic
01:53:46
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you just started
01:53:47
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typing 10 print
01:53:48
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grouper's awesome
01:53:50
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10 for 10 print
01:53:51
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kmart sucks go to
01:53:54
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that's what you
01:53:57
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small talk model
01:53:58
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was meant that
01:53:59
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you'd interface with
01:54:00
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these objects within
01:54:01
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software other people
01:54:03
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wrote method
01:54:05
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swizzling the whole
01:54:06
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objective c system
01:54:08
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was a different
01:54:09
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programming language
01:54:10
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but admittedly and
01:54:12
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on the surface
01:54:12
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greatly inspired
01:54:14
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probably more than
01:54:15
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anything by small
01:54:16
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talk like the way
01:54:17
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that it was the
01:54:18
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frameworks worked
01:54:19
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was way more
01:54:20
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small talk inspired
01:54:22
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than c the the
01:54:24
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language that
01:54:25
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objective c was
01:54:26
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sort of based on
01:54:27
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originally and so
01:54:28
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the the fact that
01:54:30
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your software in the
01:54:31
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earliest days was
01:54:32
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able to work was
01:54:33
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it wasn't supported
01:54:34
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but it wasn't
01:54:35
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unsupported i think
01:54:36
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it's fair to say
01:54:37
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right the the the
01:54:39
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mac itself was it
01:54:41
◼
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was a feature like
01:54:42
◼
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hey it's cool you
01:54:43
◼
►
can write software
01:54:44
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that pokes around
01:54:45
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inside other
01:54:46
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applications and
01:54:48
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►
but it's a it's a
01:54:49
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real trade-off like
01:54:50
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we've lost something
01:54:51
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that we can't do
01:54:53
◼
►
that anymore because
01:54:53
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it was super useful
01:54:55
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►
and there were really
01:54:56
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fun extensions the
01:54:58
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►
whole haxy era i
01:55:00
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►
mean you could a lot
01:55:02
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of them weren't
01:55:03
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useful they were just
01:55:04
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fun but there were
01:55:04
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►
ones that were fun i
01:55:05
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don't know or useful
01:55:06
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like the the bringing
01:55:08
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►
back the way that
01:55:09
◼
►
window shade worked in
01:55:10
◼
►
classic mac os i
01:55:11
◼
►
thought it was way
01:55:12
◼
►
better than way more
01:55:14
◼
►
useful than minimizing
01:55:15
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►
to the dock because you
01:55:16
◼
►
could do the opposite
01:55:17
◼
►
you double click to
01:55:18
◼
►
look behind the
01:55:19
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window and then
01:55:19
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►
without moving the
01:55:20
◼
►
mouse double click
01:55:21
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►
again to make the
01:55:22
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window shade go down
01:55:23
◼
►
being able to have
01:55:24
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extensions like that
01:55:25
◼
►
that work inside other
01:55:27
◼
►
software yes the risk
01:55:29
◼
►
was well if you have a
01:55:30
◼
►
bug in your extension
01:55:31
◼
►
you could fuck up the
01:55:33
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►
other application so
01:55:34
◼
►
you see the trade-off
01:55:35
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►
and apple sort of
01:55:36
◼
►
started closing those
01:55:37
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►
things off and you
01:55:38
◼
►
don't get nobody
01:55:39
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►
talks about method
01:55:40
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►
swizzling anymore but
01:55:41
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►
it wasn't it like oh
01:55:43
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►
method swizzling was bad
01:55:44
◼
►
and it the only thing
01:55:45
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►
that it ever did was
01:55:46
◼
►
corrupt the stability
01:55:47
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►
of people's systems it
01:55:48
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provided useful software
01:55:49
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►
and the fact that you
01:55:52
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►
guys were there are a
01:55:53
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lot of soft there's a
01:55:54
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►
lot of apps and
01:55:55
◼
►
extensions from 20 years
01:55:57
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►
ago from companies that
01:55:59
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►
aren't around anymore
01:56:00
◼
►
that's just the nature of
01:56:02
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►
everything there's a lot
01:56:03
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►
of restaurants that
01:56:04
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►
aren't around from 20
01:56:05
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►
years ago and i think
01:56:06
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►
it's great that you guys
01:56:08
◼
►
are but i think it's no
01:56:10
◼
►
coincidence that you
01:56:10
◼
►
guys had to keep moving
01:56:12
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►
with apple as oh
01:56:13
◼
►
absolutely yeah well
01:56:15
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►
and and as i mentioned
01:56:16
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►
earlier this is something
01:56:17
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►
where you're right it was
01:56:18
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►
a trade-off not just in
01:56:20
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►
terms of stability but
01:56:21
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►
also security that the the
01:56:23
◼
►
the holes that were there
01:56:24
◼
►
that enabled some of
01:56:25
◼
►
these things also could
01:56:27
◼
►
enable bad actors to steal
01:56:29
◼
►
your data or access your
01:56:30
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►
contacts or access your
01:56:32
◼
►
email whatever right and
01:56:33
◼
►
it makes sense especially
01:56:36
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►
when you think about the
01:56:37
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►
phone but even even your
01:56:39
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►
computer these devices have
01:56:41
◼
►
so much information on
01:56:42
◼
►
them that you want to be
01:56:43
◼
►
secured and 20 30 years
01:56:45
◼
►
ago we didn't really think
01:56:46
◼
►
about it that way we
01:56:47
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didn't think like oh what
01:56:48
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►
if someone gets access to
01:56:49
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►
my hard drive we thought
01:56:50
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oh this is cool i'll i'll
01:56:52
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be able to use window
01:56:53
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►
shades on my windows and
01:56:55
◼
►
more recently we've needed
01:56:56
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to think the other way
01:56:57
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►
because so much is on
01:56:59
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there that you need to be
01:57:00
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►
protected so yeah it's
01:57:01
◼
►
something where we did
01:57:02
◼
►
have to move move over
01:57:03
◼
►
the years as apple did
01:57:05
◼
►
yeah it used to be like oh
01:57:07
◼
►
the default mac browser is
01:57:08
◼
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safari and most people like
01:57:10
◼
►
it so it's the most
01:57:12
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►
frequently used browser and
01:57:14
◼
►
it stores its history file
01:57:16
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in the home folder slash
01:57:19
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►
library slash safari slash
01:57:23
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►
bookmarks or history dot html
01:57:25
◼
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or whatever the but it was
01:57:27
◼
►
just a very simple obvious
01:57:28
◼
►
path to a file and the
01:57:30
◼
►
contents of the file were
01:57:31
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totally legible and any app
01:57:34
◼
►
that wanted to could just
01:57:35
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look inside your browser
01:57:36
◼
►
history right and it's like
01:57:38
◼
►
but it was useful because
01:57:40
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you could write like a
01:57:41
◼
►
utility like a third party
01:57:42
◼
►
utility to help you search
01:57:44
◼
►
your browser history there i
01:57:46
◼
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think it was from from
01:57:47
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flexibits the chatology app
01:57:49
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that used to search ichat
01:57:51
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history ichat logs yeah
01:57:52
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right because ichat logs were
01:57:55
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stored but unencrypted in a
01:57:58
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known location in a i maybe the
01:58:00
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format wasn't open but it
01:58:02
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wasn't you know it could be
01:58:03
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backwards engineered and ichat
01:58:06
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never really had good search
01:58:08
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►
and messages still i think we
01:58:10
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can all agree doesn't really
01:58:11
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have a great search and so
01:58:13
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there was a third party utility
01:58:15
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called chatology that would
01:58:16
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search your chat history and
01:58:19
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apple didn't have to support it
01:58:20
◼
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they just had to make the chat
01:58:22
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logs available not locked down
01:58:26
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yeah and you can totally so we
01:58:28
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can't have chatology anymore but
01:58:30
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also which sucks but you can
01:58:32
◼
►
totally see why we can't have
01:58:33
◼
►
it anymore right because hey
01:58:36
◼
►
any any software where you run
01:58:38
◼
►
on your mac can just view your
01:58:40
◼
►
chat history not good or could be
01:58:43
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►
taken advantage of you know
01:58:44
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absolutely well and that was that
01:58:46
◼
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was the the trade-off here was
01:58:48
◼
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that we're capturing audio from
01:58:50
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other applications and our
01:58:52
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customers want to do that but if
01:58:54
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you leave holes that allow that
01:58:56
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►
suddenly someone creates a tool
01:58:58
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that is recording this chat
01:58:59
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►
without us knowing it right and
01:59:01
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passing it over to them so in the
01:59:03
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case of in the case of something
01:59:05
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like chatology i'd love it if
01:59:07
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there if there were an api that
01:59:08
◼
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made it possible to search i
01:59:10
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message logs in a secure fashion
01:59:13
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►
it's i think there just wasn't
01:59:14
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enough of a customer desire for
01:59:16
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that and we were fortunate to have
01:59:18
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►
this like i said two decade almost
01:59:20
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two decade build-up of customers to
01:59:23
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be able to point to and say hey
01:59:24
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►
these people need this
01:59:26
◼
►
functionality so let's work
01:59:28
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►
together to make that possible
01:59:29
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►
yeah and flexibits is a perfect
01:59:31
◼
►
example for the products they
01:59:33
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still have fantastical and card
01:59:35
◼
►
hop for calendar and context where
01:59:37
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apple has done that right there are
01:59:39
◼
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apis so that access your calendar
01:59:41
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►
access your contacts in a secure
01:59:43
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►
way absolutely right and with with a
01:59:45
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system provided prompt that says
01:59:47
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►
hey this application card hop wants
01:59:49
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to access your address book
01:59:51
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►
contents or contacts do you want to
01:59:53
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allow it and if you don't click
01:59:55
◼
►
allow it then card hop can't do what
01:59:58
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it does and they haven't done that
02:00:01
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for chat they could but that's
02:00:03
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exactly what they've it's bottom line
02:00:06
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that's basically what they've like
02:00:08
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okay this is a real need for real
02:00:10
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customers for audio recording we
02:00:12
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should we should do the hard work to
02:00:15
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make this possible for them in a way
02:00:17
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that maintains all the privacy and
02:00:19
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security that we want but also
02:00:21
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enables the hey i need to record
02:00:23
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audio from this app or else i can't
02:00:25
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do my job yep well it was a good
02:00:28
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story i will i will put it in the
02:00:29
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show notes paul it's good to good to
02:00:30
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be back i'm i'm glad to i'm glad to
02:00:34
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provide you with some spring training
02:00:35
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►
here it's so yeah all right you got a
02:00:37
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show next week you're back on a
02:00:39
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regular schedule now or what yeah yeah
02:00:41
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we'll see next week all right