00:00:15 ◼ ► So in all these times, if I'm traveling, like taking a weekend trip somewhere, I'll take
00:00:41 ◼ ► I thought maybe you were talking about your alien style acid blood slash finger secretions
00:01:07 ◼ ► I'm hoping it's just the plastic mechanism that makes the keycap go up and down and it's
00:01:24 ◼ ► You're sort of like laying the groundwork for why you, of course, need to get an M4 MacBook
00:01:30 ◼ ► One, there are two things that would make me rationalize that very quickly that I think
00:01:41 ◼ ► God, another, like I had to reboot my phone yesterday to make it work on the ferry, like
00:01:47 ◼ ► Like there have been so many times in the last few months that I, like I use tethering at
00:01:55 ◼ ► I'd say maybe four times in the last few months I've had to reboot either the MacBook Air, the
00:02:08 ◼ ► Like sight unseen would be a significantly brighter screen because I'm often using it in
00:02:33 ◼ ► I know, but I could, I could also like, it wouldn't surprise me if they keep that as a MacBook
00:02:38 ◼ ► So I don't know, but certainly I would love nanotexture and more brightness because I am
00:02:50 ◼ ► I had to wave my dad off from his, his, his Mac can't run the current version of TurboTax.
00:03:04 ◼ ► So I was like, well, it had a good run 10 years and he was, and I was recommending what
00:03:08 ◼ ► I said, don't buy a computer because the M4 MacBook Air is going to come out and that's
00:03:16 ◼ ► And I basically asked him, uh, the only thing that will be relevant to you is if you think
00:03:20 ◼ ► your current screen is not bright enough, because if you think your current screen is not
00:03:26 ◼ ► I didn't think about the idea that the MacBook Air could have a brighter screen, but I really
00:03:36 ◼ ► So he's, I told him to wait and he's going to get the M4 MacBook Air when it comes out.
00:03:40 ◼ ► Uh, but you, I can imagine if you're using the thing on a ferry with the sun coming in through
00:03:54 ◼ ► Cause I like the error rate of the non-functioning key and the fact that it's traveling to the
00:04:03 ◼ ► So I, you know, if it's going to be, if it can be a quick, easy fix, maybe I'll get it fixed.
00:04:16 ◼ ► I'm not sure replacing the key cap will fix it for you, but they can definitely do that
00:04:25 ◼ ► Uh, Stephen Klink writes, I liked John's example of, uh, of flighty as an app that doesn't need to
00:04:31 ◼ ► involve other people, but wanted to note that one of my favorite features is the ability to share a
00:04:48 ◼ ► Uh, it's, it, if you fly in an airplane with any, any regularity whatsoever, uh, you should
00:04:55 ◼ ► Or if you pick up people at the airport who are flying in an airplane, get the app anyway.
00:04:59 ◼ ► That's the main, the main thing I use it for is when picking up other people at the airport.
00:05:06 ◼ ► Uh, it gives, I think all three of us give it our official two thumbs up, uh, with regard
00:05:17 ◼ ► Even if you can easily log in without an Apple account, my Android friends cannot figure it
00:05:24 ◼ ► When I invite someone via their phone number or email, why can't it use unique links to authorize
00:05:31 ◼ ► Only three people to Android one iOS have gone through the hassle of RSVPing in the app.
00:05:41 ◼ ► I don't think that's the solution, but yes, this is the, the danger of foisting technology
00:05:46 ◼ ► onto other people in your life who just want to do a thing that I think does not necessarily
00:06:06 ◼ ► I'm a software engineer at Google and while it is discouraged, though not altogether forbidden
00:06:24 ◼ ► All right, John, uh, you have manifested something and it's a, it's a real boon for a lot of the
00:06:34 ◼ ► Well, I'm just, I'll let you do it, but let me just preface this by saying that, uh, even
00:06:39 ◼ ► though it seems like I complained about a thing on a podcast and then the next episode, uh,
00:07:00 ◼ ► If you just, you know, it's kind of like that thing where you, uh, tweet, uh, that every single
00:07:10 ◼ ► But anyway, I take no credit for this other than the credit due to everyone who has been
00:07:15 ◼ ► complaining about this exact issue for, I think 25 years, Apple IDs slash Apple accounts
00:07:21 ◼ ► It just so happened that one of the very regular times when I and other people complain about
00:07:36 ◼ ► This is, this is one of those things that like, I bet this was a huge pain in the butt for
00:07:40 ◼ ► And this like, no, no manager is ever going to advance their career by doing features like
00:07:54 ◼ ► So what we're talking about is migrate purchases from one Apple account to another Apple account.
00:08:00 ◼ ► If an Apple account is used only for making purchases, those purchases can be migrated to
00:08:12 ◼ ► Are they saying if you have an Apple ID that you've only ever used to make purchases, then
00:08:24 ◼ ► Like it's so weirdly phrased and we'll get into the limitations inherent in this, but it's
00:08:34 ◼ ► This is not really that, but this is the major part that people want, which is, Hey, I bought
00:08:40 ◼ ► stuff on one Apple ID, but I have another Apple ID, or I bought things on two Apple IDs and
00:08:51 ◼ ► Truly merging accounts would be very big, but this, this article and this feature is clearly
00:09:06 ◼ ► You can transfer them no matter what you've done out of an account, but a lot of that stuff
00:09:13 ◼ ► And by the way, this feature isn't available to users in the EU, United Kingdom, or India.
00:09:19 ◼ ► You can choose to migrate apps, music, and other content you've purchased from Apple on a secondary
00:09:26 ◼ ► However, it's worth now I'm not reading anymore, but there are a lot of limitations here.
00:09:46 ◼ ► If you undo a migration of purchases from a secondary account, you won't be able to migrate purchases
00:09:51 ◼ ► You can't migrate purchases if both the primary Apple account and the secondary Apple account
00:09:57 ◼ ► Now, that's a pretty big one because now it's like, okay, well, I want to migrate purchases,
00:10:00 ◼ ► but if you ever had music library data associated with one, if you had an iTunes library on both
00:10:14 ◼ ► And they're like, if you've only used it for purchases, that seems like a big limitation.
00:10:57 ◼ ► That one has to have been used to do stuff, which makes some sense, but still is a little
00:11:19 ◼ ► And then, as a lot of people found out shortly after this was released, you also lose all your
00:11:25 ◼ ► And apparently, one of the things that you're shown when you do a migration is on screen.
00:11:38 ◼ ► Continue using test flight, sign in with the primary account, and request beta app access
00:11:42 ◼ ► If only that worked, Icon Factory is finding out that you can't just request access from
00:11:54 ◼ ► And if you delete them, it doesn't help because when they try to register anyway, like, it
00:12:02 ◼ ► So whichever one you try to register with, it thinks they're already registered, including
00:12:12 ◼ ► And unlike iCloud photo library, where I pretty much did it on day one after messing with
00:12:31 ◼ ► You can wait another month just to see, let Apple shake out the stuff because this stuff
00:12:35 ◼ ► like messing up purchases and other things associated with your Apple ID historically have not been
00:13:10 ◼ ► If you've been able to sustain your current split environment with multiple Apple IDs, keep
00:13:15 ◼ ► these limitations in mind so you don't accidentally trip one, like don't accidentally make an iTunes
00:13:22 ◼ ► But maybe let some other people go first and see how it works out for them before you transfer
00:13:27 ◼ ► So anyway, I applaud Apple for doing this, but I don't have a lot of faith that it was done
00:13:36 ◼ ► Certainly it is not the merging of Apple IDs, which would be a union of all of your stuff,
00:13:55 ◼ ► I do have multiple Apple IDs, but one of them is my developer Apple ID, which I've only
00:14:02 ◼ ► And the only reason I had it was to register for developer discounts back, back before it
00:14:07 ◼ ► was an email address, back in the day when you'd subscribe for ADC Premiere and you get
00:14:12 ◼ ► a free ticket to WWDC and a hardware discount that was tremendously huge that I used to buy
00:14:26 ◼ ► And those are the, and I have other ones for testing and stuff or whatever, but those are
00:14:52 ◼ ► We got a handful of people who, I don't know why people are so grumpy about Marco and I's
00:15:05 ◼ ► Well, like I said, they haven't been convinced because they haven't ever been in a situation
00:15:18 ◼ ► But if you haven't experienced how much nicer it is not to deal with that, it just seems like
00:15:25 ◼ ► And they'll, all those people, all the doubters will be convinced when Apple finally ships
00:15:30 ◼ ► And the thing is like, I don't like when people tell you in tech, I need capability X, I need
00:15:51 ◼ ► But like, you know, if someone is telling you, especially like, look, Casey and I, like,
00:16:00 ◼ ► Like, I'd say it's safe, it's safe for us to say without any modesty, we are computer experts.
00:16:07 ◼ ► So when we say we want, we want a cellular mode of built in so we don't have to use tethering
00:16:25 ◼ ► That's what you're saying is you don't want that or you don't think you want to pay for
00:16:34 ◼ ► Well, a lot of people writing in have another solution that they say, why don't you just do
00:16:43 ◼ ► If you two only try this other way that I'm recommending, you wouldn't want this anymore.
00:16:48 ◼ ► I think that is the more common one, which is, you know, again, assuming that you either
00:16:51 ◼ ► have never tried the thing that they're doing or that if you did try it, you would find it
00:17:05 ◼ ► So right now, yeah, there are those standalone, like basically a little tiny Wi-Fi routers with
00:17:22 ◼ ► And I've been using it since then as a backup internet connection as for my home internet.
00:18:04 ◼ ► But like here in the US, the plans for those are not amazing, at least if you want decent
00:18:19 ◼ ► Now, granted, whatever they would offer on a computer, maybe it would be the same plans.
00:18:49 ◼ ► I'd say mine is like two decks of cards or like, you know, maybe like a novelty deck, like
00:19:08 ◼ ► So like, yeah, I could put it in my backpack when I'm going to like, you know, go on the
00:19:28 ◼ ► And that is better in the sense, it's better than tethering in the sense that the laptop
00:19:33 ◼ ► will indeed connect to it fairly quickly because it is basically broadcasting a tiny Wi-Fi network.
00:19:51 ◼ ► devices and I don't bring it with me for my like daily ferry trips because it's too much
00:20:03 ◼ ► I realized a while back that at my local library or libraries, which they're all incredible
00:20:11 ◼ ► Um, but one of the things they offer is you can check out a hotspot from the library and
00:20:20 ◼ ► And our library in the county in which I live, uh, they distribute T-Mobile hotspots, which
00:20:27 ◼ ► Um, they're physically, you know, the devices themselves are clearly a little bit older and
00:20:38 ◼ ► And they actually offer, um, not only do they offer reciprocity with, you know, card holders
00:20:43 ◼ ► from my County, but they also offer Verizon hotspots and they're a little bit bigger, uh, but
00:20:51 ◼ ► And so this is relevant because I tried my darndest to make sure I had a hotspot available
00:20:58 ◼ ► Because if you recall, I did that whole tailgate tub thing and I have a portable router in the
00:21:07 ◼ ► And what I'll do is I'll plug one of these wifi hotspots via USB into that travel router to
00:21:23 ◼ ► It's not small, particularly the nicer Verizon one is quite a bit bigger than the T-Mobile
00:21:28 ◼ ► The T-Mobile one really is like a deck of cards, but I concur with your assessment of the
00:21:33 ◼ ► It's, you know, like a couple of decks or, you know, a big deck of Uno or something like
00:21:40 ◼ ► And I think I would feel very differently if I was doing like long car trips with the children
00:21:47 ◼ ► And that's where something like, you know, a little MiFi, they're often called colloquially,
00:21:57 ◼ ► And today, what I want to do is I want to open my laptop and have it be immediately connected
00:22:17 ◼ ► I have two identical Sonos setups in my primary and guest bedrooms, a TV with a beam and Ikea
00:22:31 ◼ ► Here's the thing, I have not opened the Sonos app since I set these speakers up months or
00:22:39 ◼ ► I was genuinely surprised to hear that anyone cared whether the Sonos app worked or not.
00:22:51 ◼ ► I think, strictly speaking, I believe in order to have a lossless playback, you need to use
00:23:05 ◼ ► So in any case, the reason I like it, I feel like I might have glanced off of this last
00:23:16 ◼ ► to do any sort of, or I don't want my phone or other device to be in the midst of playing
00:23:24 ◼ ► I want, I view the ambient music in the house to be a house thing, not a Casey's phone thing.
00:23:45 ◼ ► And for all of the foibles that the Sonos app has, and this has many, managing which things
00:23:49 ◼ ► you're playing and the volume of each is so much better, even in the crummy versions of
00:24:21 ◼ ► And the only time I do, coincidentally, is with this podcast app I like called Overcast.
00:24:33 ◼ ► I don't know, Marco, you might have the opposite opinion of me because I thought you were mostly
00:24:49 ◼ ► Like if I want to like, you know, either if I've added, if I'm adding or moving a product
00:24:59 ◼ ► Or if I want to like change some settings, like, oh, I want to change the EQ on this speaker.
00:25:29 ◼ ► This is actually very similar to the opinions that I had about Spotify versus Apple Music.
00:25:36 ◼ ► One of the things I loved about Apple, excuse me, about Spotify before their app got real bad.
00:25:41 ◼ ► But up until a couple of years ago when I really went all in on Apple Music, the Spotify app,
00:26:00 ◼ ► And I liked having iTunes, you know, Apple Music, like the non-streaming form of Apple Music,
00:26:10 ◼ ► You know, maybe it's Dave Matthews concerts or maybe it's stuff I paid for, whatever the case may be.
00:26:14 ◼ ► And one of the things that really turned me off about Apple Music originally when I first started converting to it
00:26:42 ◼ ► And, you know, my playback, be that, you know, Instagram or maybe I'm watching something
00:27:12 ◼ ► A possible explanation is that the difference in censoring could already be taking place on the base model level.
00:27:29 ◼ ► You can confirm this via the official technical report, page 14, table 5, which is in GitHub,
00:27:36 ◼ ► I didn't realize the 70 billion one was based on Llama, so that one probably doesn't have –
00:27:44 ◼ ► That one doesn't have Chinese government censoring in it versus the 32 billion model based on another Chinese model.
00:28:00 ◼ ► And is the base model for the big one you're using through the app the same as the base model for the small ones you can download?
00:28:05 ◼ ► So that does make more sense, but it is still kind of weird that this one company is fielding these different models
00:28:11 ◼ ► with different base models with very different censorship behaviors, but that's apparently the way it is now.
00:28:17 ◼ ► Screen time, we talked about – I think – was it, John, you had, like, some sort of throwaway comment about that?
00:28:23 ◼ ► Yeah, it's another one of those things that is complained about all the time by me and others.
00:28:30 ◼ ► And so last episode, I made my, I don't know, annual, biannual screen time unreliability complaint because it's unreliable.
00:28:42 ◼ ► And they provided an image where it says screen time, all devices, daily average, 2,395 hours and 49 minutes.
00:28:53 ◼ ► Even if you have, like, if you buy every product that app loans and you leave them open and running all the time,
00:28:58 ◼ ► setting aside the fact that it shouldn't be counting that as your screen time if you're not in front of that computer,
00:29:20 ◼ ► So many people sent screenshots of their completely absurd, ridiculous numbers that don't make any sense.
00:29:27 ◼ ► Even when the numbers were within the realm of imaginable reason of like, well, 30 something hours and maybe it's counting multiple apps that I'm running on my Mac at the same time, blah, blah, blah.
00:29:39 ◼ ► It's like, this doesn't feel like I can't connect this, these numbers to things that I did.
00:29:46 ◼ ► Like I said, it might as well be a random number generator that just makes a bunch of graphs.
00:30:22 ◼ ► And Paulo Pinto writes, it is still certified as Unix 03, but there are several things that have to be enabled or changed so that Mac OS actually works as a certified Unix.
00:30:33 ◼ ► There was recently a very ranty article on OS News going over how Apple has achieved its certification.
00:30:42 ◼ ► Anyways, Tom writes, in order to be allowed to use the Unix trademark, your operating system needs to comply with a single Unix specification, SUS,
00:30:49 ◼ ► which specifies programming interfaces for C, a command line shell, and user commands, more or less identical to POSIX, as well as the X or OpenCursus specification.
00:30:59 ◼ ► Mac OS 15.0 only conforms to version 3 of the SUS, which is what Paulo was saying, which dates all the way back to the ancient times of 2004, when Marco and I were just graduating college.
00:31:12 ◼ ► However, you can argue that this is just semantics, since it's not like Unix and POSIX are very inclined to change.
00:31:19 ◼ ► I'm kind of surprised Apple was keeping this up, because if you read the article, which is provocatively titled, Apple's Mac OS Unix certification is a lie.
00:31:27 ◼ ► Basically, there are a bunch of settings in Mac OS that you have to toggle to make it so that Mac OS passes whatever the certification is.
00:31:36 ◼ ► And I'm kind of amazed that Apple is still doing that, because the settings are probably annoying to maintain.
00:31:42 ◼ ► Like, we've got to make sure, you know, they went through the effort to certify what was then Mac OS X as a real trademark Unix, all caps, U-N-I-X.
00:31:51 ◼ ► And they've just kept up that certification by every time they add something to Mac OS that would make it not comply, they have a switch that says, put it back to the compliant mode.
00:32:01 ◼ ► And most of the things that, like, they've switched or whatever, it's better the way Mac OS does it out of the box.
00:32:15 ◼ ► They have a way, okay, turn it back on, turn this thing off, turn this performance enhancement off, change this behavior back to the way this Unix-specific,
00:32:23 ◼ ► It's not like they're, you know, I don't know how much, what difference is there between Unix-03 to Unix-07.
00:32:37 ◼ ► I would prefer, I would be just fine if they left it behind and say, you know what, we're not going to bother complying with that.
00:32:45 ◼ ► Because in most cases, when you look at what they are, they're things that are not relevant to the average person's life.
00:32:50 ◼ ► Or they're things that no end user would ever, like, if they had some software that wasn't working right because that setting was wrong.
00:32:58 ◼ ► Like, a lot of them require, like, disabling system integrity protection and stuff like that.
00:33:14 ◼ ► I don't know if it's just corporate inertia, but Apple, I think you can safely leave that one behind.
00:33:22 ◼ ► I mean, I think Tom was particularly worked up about the fact that, yes, you have to flip these switches.
00:33:43 ◼ ► Now, I concur as well with you, John, that I think it's probably long since time that they just walk away from all this.
00:34:00 ◼ ► But honestly, if that was the case, that there would be people in government taking macOS and making it, like, worse and less secure to pass government compliance stuff, which, again, is not too surprising.
00:34:28 ◼ ► And I believe, if memory serves, Marco was convinced that the Joy-Cons would not support any sort of mouse movement.
00:34:48 ◼ ► So, reading from Ars Technica, the Japanese-language patent about the Switch 2 Joy-Cons, whose illustrations match what we've seen of Switch 2 Joy-Cons precisely, features an English abstract describing, quote, a sensor for mouse operation, quote, that can detect reflected light from a detected surface, the light changing by moving over the detected surface.
00:35:07 ◼ ► Much like any number of optical computer mice, schematic drawings in the patent show how the light source and light sensor are squeezed inside the Joy-Con with a built-in lens for directing the light to and from each.
00:35:17 ◼ ► A machine translation of the full text of the patent describes the controller as a novel input device that can be used as a mouse and other than a mouse.
00:35:27 ◼ ► In mouse mode, as described in the patent, the user cradles the outer edge of the controller with their palm and places the inner edge on, for example, a desk or the like.
00:35:43 ◼ ► We had talked about at some point how it's difficult to hear dialogue on TV shows these days because the three of us are old.
00:35:52 ◼ ► And Nicholas Carrente writes, on the topic of poor dialogue mixing in streaming shows and movies, I've been using the solution for years now and it works great.
00:36:03 ◼ ► What makes it even better is that Apple TV lets multiple people connect their AirPods simultaneously.
00:36:24 ◼ ► A great example of this is from my kitchen, you can see into the living room and since slash R slash TV too high, you can see the TV from the kitchen.
00:36:35 ◼ ► But in order to hear it, I either need to grab one of my Sonos portable speakers, which occasionally I'll do, or I'll just throw in my AirPods.
00:36:41 ◼ ► And then I can hear it much better without having to crank, you know, the main sound system.
00:36:45 ◼ ► But I can't say that I've ever done this with Aaron and it sounds like it would be awfully burdensome to start and stop every time.
00:36:57 ◼ ► Yeah, this is kind of a testament to how difficult it is to get good audio in home television watching environments.
00:37:04 ◼ ► Because, I mean, I think most people just move, use their TV speakers and TV speakers are usually terrible.
00:37:08 ◼ ► And that means that whatever sound was recorded in the show, setting aside how well the dialogue is mixed in it or whatever,
00:37:16 ◼ ► it has to pass through your cruddy TV speakers and bounce off the back of the plastic casing and the wall and the floor and everything and eventually get to your ears.
00:37:23 ◼ ► And by the time it gets there, it's substantially changed from what was originally put into the show.
00:37:30 ◼ ► That what the AirPods are doing for you there is they're cutting out all that in-between stuff.
00:37:34 ◼ ► We'll get the audio digitally to very close to your ear and then we will amplify it and play it into your ear holes.
00:37:42 ◼ ► And so all that stuff that I talked about, the shape of your room, your walls, your cruddy TV speakers,
00:37:47 ◼ ► that is all eliminated from things that can make the dialogue hard to hear and you were left only with how well was dialogue mixed.
00:37:54 ◼ ► If everybody had a, like, theater-quality, you know, speaker setup for their television, this wouldn't be as big an issue.
00:38:02 ◼ ► When you were sitting on your couch, you'd still only have the problem of how was the audio mixed on the show and you wouldn't have those other problems.
00:38:09 ◼ ► But most people just don't do that, even if people have something like a soundbar or whatever.
00:38:13 ◼ ► It's not like that is even calibrated in any way or may actually be making things worse when it comes to dialogue legibility than the television speakers,
00:38:25 ◼ ► So, yeah, most people don't have fancy hi-fi setups and it actually is surprisingly difficult to get a home theater setup to do a good job on audio
00:38:39 ◼ ► And for a variety of reasons, the center channel speaker in home theater setup is like the unloved stepchild.
00:38:50 ◼ ► And yet it is the most important speaker when you're hearing people talk on a television show.
00:38:54 ◼ ► And so, so many things about the design, the physical design of center channel speakers.
00:38:59 ◼ ► I think I talked to this on a show a while ago when I was talking about it, my home theater setup.
00:39:28 ◼ ► But it's something where I take my phone and wave it around the room while the Sonos is playing some sort of particular tone.
00:39:35 ◼ ► And it will do maybe not the kind of calibration you're talking about, John, but some modicum of calibration.
00:39:52 ◼ ► But still, I bet most people who have a soundbar take it out of the box, hook it up, sound comes out, sit down.
00:39:56 ◼ ► Like they're not seeking – only like home theater nerds or like actual professional installers are going to even bother launching an app and trying to do it.
00:40:10 ◼ ► Apparently, a listener of ATP reached out to James from Home is Where the Smart Is, which is mostly a UK – well, it's a business in the UK as well as a video and YouTube channel and website and whatnot.
00:40:33 ◼ ► And the trouble was most guides I found to doing LED stuff seemed too involved, even for me, usually with soldering and jumper wires all over the place.
00:40:40 ◼ ► So my dad and I set about making the easiest starter boards we could as he is the brains behind the circuit board designs.
00:40:46 ◼ ► So we've designed these very small boards, which can be powered from USB if you wish, or mainly for strips that are different voltages like 12 volts and 24 volts.
00:40:53 ◼ ► You can leave the USB alone and power the strip instead with an external power supply and the board will power from the strip.
00:40:59 ◼ ► So James was kind enough to reach out and send me, all the way from across the pond, send me a couple of the Home is Where the Smart Is boards.
00:41:06 ◼ ► And what these are, are hilariously, ridiculously, absurdly tiny ESP32 boards with a little bit of electronics around them.
00:41:35 ◼ ► So anyways, James has sent me one of these and sent me a small strip of, you know, nanopixels.
00:41:41 ◼ ► What is, I forget the name of it, but it's like the, whatever I was talking about a couple of weeks ago, the 8212 or something like that.
00:41:51 ◼ ► But what this allows me to do is, you know, James had pre-assembled all of this for me.
00:41:57 ◼ ► And what it is, is it's this ESP32, which he has pre-loaded with WLED, which is a Home Assistant style, like open source project with the best URL I've ever seen in my life.
00:42:25 ◼ ► I connected to the Wi-Fi that this little itty bitty postage stamp size chip is broadcasting.
00:42:34 ◼ ► And the next thing you know, I have a web interface for controlling the strip of like 10 LEDs, which is cool.
00:42:41 ◼ ► And I guess there's an open source iPhone app that you can download from the store or whatever, and you can control them that way as well, which is also cool.
00:42:46 ◼ ► But the key, though, is that as soon as I went back to Home Assistant, have I told you guys I'm into Home Assistant these days?
00:42:52 ◼ ► I went back to Home Assistant and I opened it up and said, hey, I just detected a new WLED device.
00:43:03 ◼ ► And within not too terribly long, I now have my status board insofar as a strip of little LED lights that are addressable and the hue or the color is configurable and the brightness.
00:43:17 ◼ ► And so I have a red LED for when the garage door is open, a white LED that changes the brightness based on the inverse of how charged the car is.
00:43:31 ◼ ► When it's not very charged at all, it's as bright as the sun, or at least that's what it seems like sometimes.
00:43:42 ◼ ► And right now it's just sitting freeballing on my desk because I haven't figured out where to put it.
00:43:48 ◼ ► And the historical commission is not aware of much of this happening at this time because I haven't figured out where to mount it.
00:43:54 ◼ ► I think, to be honest with you, I might just mount it on the incredible forehead of one of my LG 5Ks.
00:44:01 ◼ ► It's just so it's in the office because, as Marco was chuckling and remembers, the forehead in the LG 5K is quite, I mean, it's only like an inch, but it seems just obscenely large when you look at it.
00:44:11 ◼ ► And so I might just mount it there and then, you know, plug the USB power into the back of the studio, or excuse me, the LG 5K.
00:44:22 ◼ ► And getting these components individually, again, James was kind enough to send these for free and didn't ask for a plug or anything, but I'm genuinely plugging because I enjoyed it.
00:44:31 ◼ ► But you can get these boards, and I think Americans, you'd have to dispatch them from Amazon, UK, which is probably a little bit pricey.
00:44:38 ◼ ► But nevertheless, you can get these itty-bitty, teeny-tiny boards, and you can get these pretty affordable LED strips, and you can do whatever you want.
00:45:05 ◼ ► And so I set mine up, and I'll let John talk and speak to whether or not he did anything with his yet.
00:45:17 ◼ ► But to be fair, they did send me a free one, and they will be sponsoring in the future.
00:45:22 ◼ ► And the only thing that kind of bummed me out a little bit about it was I didn't realize that for purposes of keeping the battery to last more than five minutes, it only refreshes at most every 15 minutes.
00:45:34 ◼ ► And so at first, before mine showed up, I had like coded up this whole WebSockets-based thing that showed the status board in the corner of the terminal, and I was all excited for it.
00:45:48 ◼ ► And it took me a while to realize, oh, nothing happened because it only updates every like 15 minutes.
00:45:54 ◼ ► It's because if you refresh even every 15 minutes, it's dramatically less battery life than it would be otherwise.
00:46:00 ◼ ► And once I took that status board off and told it, no, no, no, no, no, anything else you're showing, you can refresh once an hour, maybe even more than that.
00:46:09 ◼ ► And so since I optioned the bigger battery, I got to imagine this is going to last at least a couple of months, maybe even as much.
00:46:30 ◼ ► The fact that you can give their servers updates, which eventually the terminal will go and request, via WebSockets is super cool.
00:47:05 ◼ ► And even if you're not interested in either of those devices, ultimately, they're both powered by the same stuff, which is the ESP32, which is that little teeny tiny chip.
00:47:24 ◼ ► Once the terminal website fixed its broken CSS because their CSS was 404ing over the weekend.
00:47:33 ◼ ► What I landed on was weather and calendar, but not the month calendar, because I found that the month calendar with the amount of stuff our family has on our shared calendar with all our stuff in it is just too much information for that small of a display, especially if you want anything else to be there.
00:48:00 ◼ ► Well, it shows like the next couple of days, but it's not the whole big grid of the calendar month or whatever.
00:48:06 ◼ ► And then the weather, and I was trying to find out where I'm going to put this in the house.
00:48:31 ◼ ► It's not quite like they'll be shocked that I have a podcast tonight for something that's been on the calendar for like months at a time.
00:48:37 ◼ ► Or in the case of ATP, it's just always like – anyway, it's on the calendar, but they don't see the calendar.
00:48:42 ◼ ► So anyway, now there is slightly less of an excuse because they're literally walking by the thing every day that says what my podcast schedule is.
00:49:26 ◼ ► First of all, my setup is during the morning when it's like the high transit getting out the door sort of situation.
00:49:38 ◼ ► So it's the weather at the top and countdown until spring break for the kids on the bottom.
00:49:43 ◼ ► And then once everyone is kind of migrated out of the house, the kind of, you know, steady state of it is the monthly calendar, which for me, I totally understand what you're saying, John.
00:49:55 ◼ ► And then the other thing I was going to say is I am, I believe, and I check my math on this, but I think that a lot of terminals back-end stuff is either is or will be open source.
00:50:05 ◼ ► So hypothetically, John, you could get your own e-ink display, you know, of a different size and use a lot of their software or maybe fork their software to power it.
00:50:15 ◼ ► Now, I know that you probably don't have any interest in that, nor do I, but that is something that I think they would enable you to do if you wanted to go down that route.
00:50:26 ◼ ► Yeah, probably, although I would imagine an e-ink screen of the size that I want actually would be kind of expensive because if you think about the biggest e-ink devices like the Remarkable tablets or whatever, they do start to get costly when the screens get big.
00:50:45 ◼ ► This past week, which is that the test flight version will now reclaim one file for real in your updates.
00:50:52 ◼ ► I was trying to figure out what would be the first step between, like, you know, not actually making any changes, but, you know, do all the work right up into it.
00:51:00 ◼ ► But then it would just throw away the work that it did because I didn't want to mess with people's disks until I had some confidence.
00:51:04 ◼ ► I figured one file was the best choice because at the end of reclaiming, it can point you to, you know, this big button to reveal it in the finder.
00:51:16 ◼ ► Make, because if I, if I did like more than one, I was like, oh, I don't want to have to manually check those files, but you can manually check one file.
00:51:22 ◼ ► And what I want you to do, and what I want you to do, all the testers, I want them to reclaim one file for real and look at that file and make sure it's not destroyed.
00:51:31 ◼ ► I disabled the setting that, like, I disabled the setting that, like, skips the trash can or whatever.
00:51:39 ◼ ► But so far, no one has reported any kind of damage or problem with the restoration process.
00:51:56 ◼ ► I'm going to be in the one file mode for a little while, partially because we're going on a family trip soon.
00:52:12 ◼ ► If you have a thing that says, oh, I found, you know, 10,000 files, you can reclaim all of them.
00:52:21 ◼ ► As I said in the testing notes, if you want to pick which file that is, just deselect everything except for a single file group.
00:52:34 ◼ ► But, yeah, the bug, I've burned down all of the outstanding bug reports as far as I'm aware.
00:52:49 ◼ ► But probably early next month, I'm probably going to be shipping this or maybe even before then.
00:52:53 ◼ ► Because I've more or less drawn a line in the sand that I'm not going to add more features at this point.
00:53:06 ◼ ► And then I've got to do all the other stuff of, you know, try to find some way to make screenshots for this.
00:53:36 ◼ ► And yet other people have been joining successfully with that link as recently as today.
00:53:49 ◼ ► So anyway, if you want to join the Slack, as I say in the notes, you can just email the address that's listed there.
00:54:13 ◼ ► Oh, and I will release a version of the app that reclaims everything for real after I have a little bit more confidence with the one file thing.
00:54:24 ◼ ► You know, as a quick aside with regard to Slack, I was using Slack on my iPad, which I do somewhat regularly.
00:54:29 ◼ ► And for the eight millionth time, I hit the up arrow in order to, I think I was in the midst of editing a multi-line thing.
00:54:42 ◼ ► But it goes to the most recent message that I had posted rather than where it should go, which is up within the editing space that I'm working within.
00:54:57 ◼ ► And within like two hours or something like that, I got a response from a human saying,
00:55:13 ◼ ► And maybe it wasn't two hours, but given that what I'm comparing it to is Apple, which is literally never, it was effectively instant.
00:55:27 ◼ ► I've actually probably should have filed the thing on the links that I don't understand.
00:55:38 ◼ ► But the other times that I have filed things, it's totally like you will get a response from someone who seemingly read and understood what you wrote, which is just mind boggling.
00:56:12 ◼ ► Let's talk about some other terrible things, which is to say, Apple has apparently been ordered to open encrypted user accounts globally to UK spying.
00:56:41 ◼ ► But maybe in an after after after show, I can pop off about what this ridiculous coup that's happening right now.
00:56:49 ◼ ► Apple has reportedly been ordered by the UK government to create a backdoor that would give security officials access to users encrypted iCloud backups.
00:56:55 ◼ ► If implemented, British security services would have access to the backups of any user worldwide, not just Brits.
00:57:04 ◼ ► The Washington Post reports that the secret order issued last month is based on rights given under the UK's Investigatory Powers Act of 2016, also known as, and I love this, the Snoopers Charter.
00:57:31 ◼ ► Officials have apparently demanded blanket access to end-to-end encrypted files uploaded by any user worldwide rather than access a specific account.
00:57:38 ◼ ► Apple's iCloud backups aren't encrypted by default, but the advanced data protection option was added in 2022 and must be enabled manually.
00:57:48 ◼ ► In response to the order, Apple is expected to simply stop offering advanced data protection in the UK.
00:57:53 ◼ ► This wouldn't meet the UK's demand for access to files shared by global users, however.
00:57:59 ◼ ► Apple has the right to appeal the notice on the basis of cost of implementing it and whether the demand is proportionate to the security requirements, but any appeal cannot delay implementation of the original order.
00:58:19 ◼ ► Similarly, if Apple did accede to the UK's demands, then it apparently would not be allowed to warn users that its encrypted service is no longer fully secure.
00:58:28 ◼ ► Now, in case you think the Washington Post is crazy, let's talk about the BBC, who writes,
00:58:32 ◼ ► this misguided attempt at, I'm sorry, this is a quote that the BBC has quoted from somebody else,
00:58:38 ◼ ► this misguided attempt at tackling crime and terrorism will not make the UK safer, but it will erode the fundamental rights and civil liberties of the entire population,
00:58:49 ◼ ► The main issue that comes from such powers being exercised is that it's unlikely to result in the outcome they want,
00:58:57 ◼ ► Criminals and terrorists will just pivot to other platforms and techniques to avoid incrimination.
00:59:04 ◼ ► An entire country that loves security cameras more than anyone in the entire world decides that they get to security cam anything they want in our iCloud backups.
00:59:15 ◼ ► Well, they're not deciding this, but here, this is a situation where, uh, we've talked about Apple dealing with, like, uh, difficult government, uh, demands and, uh, you know, just navigating, uh, various laws in different countries.
00:59:31 ◼ ► But this one, I feel like it's just so incredibly clarifying given how incredibly dumb this law is, which you outlined well, that, like, that it doesn't just apply to the UK, but they want access to everybody worldwide.
00:59:53 ◼ ► That is the only answer to this because anything else is inconceivable unless the, unless the diverge article is wrong about what it requires to comply.
01:00:04 ◼ ► Uh, because if it was just a matter of, okay, people in the UK can't get advanced data protection, oh, well, sucks for them.
01:00:08 ◼ ► But if that doesn't do it, and the only solution is they want a backdoor to everything worldwide, no more Apple products in the UK.
01:00:16 ◼ ► Like, that is the direct, very straightforward, only possible consequence of this thing going through.
01:00:38 ◼ ► I mean, I think the most likely outcome here is that most countries, like most, especially kind of like, you know, similar countries in like, you know, development and law enforcement status as the US and Europe and everything.
01:01:04 ◼ ► Like, there's no way we, because look, we have, you know, the culture of law enforcement is that they feel genuinely entitled to everything from everyone all the time.
01:01:20 ◼ ► They do not like having, you know, roadblocks put in their face, like the constitution or rights or due process.
01:01:40 ◼ ► And the more they can just have it on everybody and get these pesky judges and processes and constitutions out of the way, the better.
01:01:54 ◼ ► They think they're protecting us from terrorists and stuff like those are like, and in the, in their world, they are justified in their thinking here.
01:02:01 ◼ ► Unfortunately, that conflicts with, you know, rights and constitutions and, and reality because.
01:02:07 ◼ ► Like they, they think what, even within their world, if their world was just expansive enough to realize what the reality of their world is, is that when you make a backdoor like this, the bad people get access to it.
01:02:19 ◼ ► And you get compromised in a worse way than you can possibly, which happened recently with China finding a way into one of the backdoors that was mandated into some telecom system in the U S right.
01:02:41 ◼ ► It's not actually justified even within their world of like, well, if we just look at what our needs as law enforcement agency are, this is the right thing to do.
01:02:50 ◼ ► It is just wrongheaded in every possible way, but I agree that they think it's the right thing to do.
01:02:56 ◼ ► And, and, but the reality of what's going to happen here, you know, we have, I mean, we have our own problems here in the U S obviously with our recent politics.
01:03:07 ◼ ► Um, but like a, a swing to the right and authoritarianism is not limited just to the U S recently.
01:03:18 ◼ ► And so I think the, the, the culture of law enforcement and government, you know, having full control over people and the erosion of freedoms, uh, is, is happening in a lot of places, especially in technology.
01:03:45 ◼ ► And what they will do is just the same thing they've done with so many other things, China, the Gulf of America.
01:03:54 ◼ ► Like what they're going to do is they're, they're going to say, we have to follow the laws in the countries in which we operate and they're going to just not offer the encryption in these countries.
01:04:09 ◼ ► Like China in China, they're able to bend over backwards and do what the Chinese government wants.
01:04:17 ◼ ► The Chinese government asks for something that they could actually get, which is within China, we have all these rules.
01:04:26 ◼ ► They're saying you have to compromise everybody in the entire world to satisfy our law.
01:04:41 ◼ ► Like, like, I think that one particular detail, like, I think, I think in a month that detail is gone.
01:04:55 ◼ ► Anyway, we're just going by this article here, but by what is written in the article, Apple can't do what it has historically done.
01:05:03 ◼ ► It's only choices are backdoor every single Apple customer worldwide in perpetuity without telling anybody or pull out of the UK.
01:05:24 ◼ ► Their justification for China is like, well, it's better than us not being there because as compromised as we are, we're still the least compromised in all of China.
01:05:48 ◼ ► Well, or the option also, they, I mean, again, not a lawyer, but the other option could be they will comply within the UK and they just won't comply with people outside the UK and the UK can sue them and they'll see what happens and they'll challenge it.
01:06:02 ◼ ► Like it's the, you're, you're learning lots of lessons from the current administration of just like, what if I just ignore the law?
01:06:14 ◼ ► Like I would imagine what would happen is that this, this law is so wrongheaded and Apple is so large and powerful and the threat of pulling out is so, um, so powerful to elected people in the UK because if Apple did pull out and everybody in the UK knew it was because of this dumb law, a lot of people aren't getting reelected.
01:06:30 ◼ ► So I imagine what will actually happen is big, important people will have big, important discussions and this will be changed.
01:06:36 ◼ ► And I, they'll, at the very least, they'll change it so that all of the badness is confined to the UK, which sucks if you're in the UK.
01:06:50 ◼ ► Everybody will know that it's happening in the UK because we leaked this or whoever leaked this.
01:06:54 ◼ ► Like it's not, Apple can't technically say anything about it, but now we all know about it.
01:06:58 ◼ ► So, uh, when advanced data protection disappears in the UK, we'll be like, oh, that's why.
01:07:03 ◼ ► Um, but the problem is with this law, if, uh, advanced data protection disappears in the UK, uh, but doesn't disappear anywhere else, how do we know that Apple hasn't compromised all of its customers everywhere?
01:07:17 ◼ ► We would assume they wouldn't because that just doesn't seem like something Apple would do, but the law says that they can't say anything either way.
01:07:22 ◼ ► So all these laws that, that require you not to say anything about something the government is making you do are terrible.
01:07:29 ◼ ► I feel like the terribleness of those laws should be confined to the company, to the country that a company is in.
01:07:35 ◼ ► Like the U S government can make Apple do that, but I don't feel like it's tenable to have any government in the world be able to do that.
01:07:41 ◼ ► So I really hope that if they can't come to agreement, Apple will just come out and say, look, this is what they asked us to do.
01:07:52 ◼ ► I mean, and I'm, as much as I'm getting fired up about this, I mean, honestly, we have no like to stand on as Americans right now.
01:08:01 ◼ ► It is very similar in that it is, it is like, what kind of decision can we make that everybody who has a brain knows is bad and wrong, but can we just force that through because we won an election and will there be any consequences from that?
01:08:15 ◼ ► And we were all in the, we're all in that finding out phase right now because a bunch of bad people with bad ideas were elected and they're doing stupid stuff.
01:08:27 ◼ ► Because there are, at least in the UK, I would imagine would definitely be electoral consequences of forcing Apple out of your country.
01:08:36 ◼ ► Because I think a lot of people in the UK who vote like Apple products, that would not be a good move for you as a politician or as a political party.
01:08:45 ◼ ► And yet I feel like that is the inevitable consequence of holding the line on this one, which is probably why they will back off and do something and, you know, change it around or whatever.
01:09:01 ◼ ► There's always things going through the legislature in this country of like, we want to have a backdoor, but only for the good guys.
01:09:15 ◼ ► I'm going to make sure that the good guys, blah, blah, blah, because it's too, like, it's too nuanced and weird and techie to explain to people why this is terrible.
01:09:28 ◼ ► Like every government in every part of the world will just keep coming to the same thing.
01:09:34 ◼ ► You can run on it and seem like you're going to get elected because you're helping protect the people.
01:09:38 ◼ ► And then when the rubber hits the road, hopefully the, you'll get enough smart people to talk and say, this is impossible.
01:09:50 ◼ ► And sometimes it gets forced through anyway, like whatever, uh, I wish I could find a link to that.
01:09:53 ◼ ► The, uh, the U S thing where we got owned because we did force through our law that required government to have backdoor access to some telecom system.
01:10:02 ◼ ► No one could have guessed that would have happened except everybody who ever looked at it and said, the bad guys will get the back door.
01:10:13 ◼ ► That's just, that's just, it's, it's, it's maddening, but, uh, we are doomed as a species to have this debate over and over again.
01:10:20 ◼ ► And the only thing we can hope is that, you know, smarter heads will prevail eventually on this issue.
01:10:29 ◼ ► So fingers crossed that the UK dodges this one and fingers crossed that, uh, enough people notice what happened in the U S with the telecom thing getting compromised.
01:10:38 ◼ ► And maybe the next time one of these laws comes up, someone in Congress will bring this up.
01:10:56 ◼ ► So, uh, last week, I think it was, or thereabouts, um, we got a very surprising, uh, release from Apple at machine learning dot apple.com.
01:11:05 ◼ ► We got elegant, E L E G N T expressive and functional movement design for non anthropomorphic robots.
01:11:35 ◼ ► And the TLDR of this video is, look, if you're writing the code or you're effectively like piloting a robot, then the most efficient thing for the robot to do is go from point A to point B.
01:11:53 ◼ ► And what Apple is saying is, Hey, if we take a kind of circuitous way to from point A to point B and maybe overshoot or, you know, kind of like brace ourselves to get ready to go and then launch out and go.
01:12:07 ◼ ► So if we have these sort of human qualities to it, it's a much more enjoyable experience for the humans observing it.
01:12:17 ◼ ► And honestly, the difference between the kind of clinical standard robot and the, uh, the, the more emotional, if you will, robot was really stark for me.
01:12:27 ◼ ► And I really preferred looking at an interact, well, not that I was interacting, but like imagining interacting with the more emotional robot, uh, rather than the one that is arguably more efficient.
01:12:41 ◼ ► And, you know, when, when they asked the robot the question and it kind of like, if I remember right, it kind of like leaned back and thought about it for a second.
01:12:49 ◼ ► And it didn't just immediately answer the question and they're doing the side by side and split screen with the clinical version, as I keep calling it, although that's not what they called it.
01:12:58 ◼ ► And the clinical version was done quicker, but the emotional version was so much more pleasurable to interact with, or at least that's, that's what I got from it.
01:13:11 ◼ ► Well, first I want to talk about the fact that this webpage exists at all, because if you've been listening to the show,
01:13:18 ◼ ► for the past several months, we've talked about the rumor of like a table sitting Apple home device with a screen and the screen is robotically controlled.
01:13:27 ◼ ► And there's that Apple framework that currently works with that Belkin, uh, camera pointy thing where there's an API from a Mac or other devices where you can control a, like a, a robot servo type thing, or it's not really a robot, but anyway, a mechanical thing that points a camera in a particular direction.
01:13:48 ◼ ► Again, there's the Belkin third party one that you could buy right now that actually does use it.
01:13:52 ◼ ► Um, and then the, you know, the, the home thing with the screen where the screen points at you and emotes and so on and so forth.
01:13:59 ◼ ► And then I guess it's a fun tie-in with the, uh, the, uh, the iMac G4, the flat screen iMac with the cool, uh, spring loaded, like, uh, uh, metal arm thing that they had in the commercial and it was sort of, uh, gesticulating and, and, uh, motioning or whatever.
01:14:14 ◼ ► Um, those are all rumors on, like, Mac rumors and, you know, uh, Bloomberg from German stuff or whatever.
01:14:19 ◼ ► Uh, usually Apple doesn't put up webpages showing technologies that, uh, for things that have been rumored.
01:14:34 ◼ ► But given half a year or more of rumors of a thing that has, like, uh, a screen slash camera on an arm that does, like, you know, that points at things and, like, moves in an emotive way.
01:14:46 ◼ ► And then having, having Apple put this up, it's, it's almost like, it's so out of character for Apple because they don't tend to, like, the, the analogy has often been used in the Apple community is, like, Apple doesn't make concept cars.
01:15:00 ◼ ► A concept car is at car shows or, like, a car manufacturer will come with a car that they're never going to make that is usually just, like, a, a, a model with nothing on the inside of it or whatever.
01:15:22 ◼ ► And if you squint at this, you can see what our future products might have some of these qualities.
01:15:32 ◼ ► They don't show their Orion glasses that they're working on in the lab that cost $10,000 that they're not going to ever really sell to consumers.
01:15:43 ◼ ► The whole time they were developing the Vision Pro, they could have been having little.
01:15:50 ◼ ► But here we have seemingly pretty concrete rumors of a thing with a screen where something moves the screen to point at stuff.
01:15:58 ◼ ► And then this research thing that says, hey, we've been doing some research on how to make things point at things in a motive kind of way.
01:16:11 ◼ ► But maybe, like, the machine learning research people, like, I know they let them publish stuff.
01:16:17 ◼ ► Because, you know, obviously with the OLM stuff or whatever, they publish papers about things or whatever.
01:16:27 ◼ ► Like, if you've watched, like, a SIGGRAPH video or, like, a video made by, like, graduate students or Ph.D. students.
01:16:50 ◼ ► It really does make me think that they've decided not to make that product with the little emotive arm thing.
01:17:02 ◼ ► For the difference between the sort of, you know, I think it was the car welding robot.
01:17:21 ◼ ► They're going from one welding position to the next as quickly as possible because time is money.
01:17:29 ◼ ► But for something that might sit on your desk and, you know, move around and do things, having it look more friendly makes a difference.
01:17:40 ◼ ► One, the thing about mechanical moving things that I'll get to in a second that I've talked about in the past.
01:17:44 ◼ ► But the other thing is having a personality and being, you called it emotional, less clinical, whatever you want to describe this, being more Disney Imagineering.
01:17:59 ◼ ► Getting machines to move in a way that connects with people, either by looking like living things or by evoking emotion or whatever.
01:18:06 ◼ ► The art of animation, that's how all the, you know, inanimate objects and the beast's castle and beauty and the beast can look like things because they're squashing and stretching.
01:18:19 ◼ ► And you can do that with physical real world objects as well to have a better connection.
01:18:24 ◼ ► But there is a baseline level of actually doing the thing you want it to do that you need to pass before I feel like you get any benefit from being more emotive.
01:18:37 ◼ ► In other words, it has to be able to do the thing before you care about, did it do the thing in a way that makes a connection with me?
01:18:46 ◼ ► Because if it fails to do the thing, those emotive qualities either have no effect or make you hate it more.
01:18:54 ◼ ► And I'm not entirely sure, given Apple's history for things like Siri, that any product they field with this type of technology is going to pass that baseline bar of, but did it do the thing at all that I wanted it to do?
01:19:10 ◼ ► Before you get to the point where you can consider, and it did it in such an engaging way, you know?
01:19:15 ◼ ► Like, and watching this video, that's all I could think of is how angry people would get at this poor thing if it did not do the thing they wanted.
01:19:24 ◼ ► Like so much of Apple's, so many of Apple's like home slash intelligence products don't do it.
01:19:29 ◼ ► And how all the extra work they're putting into being more emotive would not save it from the wrath of the user.
01:19:36 ◼ ► I see it in my own kids when they're trying to talk to our HomePod to turn the lights on and off and it doesn't work.
01:19:41 ◼ ► And the things they have to say about Siri are not kind and then they talk to the Google device and it always works.
01:19:49 ◼ ► I'm thinking like the people doing this research should go work for Disney Imagineering because the Disney stuff does do the thing people expect it to do, but they just expect to be entertained.
01:19:59 ◼ ► But if you ask this thing to, you know, whatever the, you know, this thing was doing stuff that Apple's never going to ship because it's too expensive.
01:20:05 ◼ ► But if you ask the Apple thing to like look at me or make sure you can get us all on camera or whatever and it doesn't do it, you don't care how motive it was in attempting to do your thing.
01:20:18 ◼ ► And so I, my pessimism about this whole approach is let's work on the baseline functionality and get that nailed down before you worry so much about this.
01:20:32 ◼ ► You should be researching it, but I would be much more impressed by a behind the scenes look at somebody making sure that like, you know, the next home device is responsive and actually does what you ask it to do, which is a bar that they have not crossed with the current ones.
01:20:47 ◼ ► And as I alluded to before, the mechanical nature of this with all these servos and motors and moving parts or whatever is so incredibly expensive and so and so requiring of a philosophy that Apple does not currently conform to, which is the repairability and maintenance of something with as many moving parts that I just can't see any product like this being near in the horizon.
01:21:12 ◼ ► Because the thing that is difficult about these devices still today is not so much the computer smarts that controls them, but it's the physical reality of anything that works and moves anything like a living thing.
01:21:27 ◼ ► That's why those like Boston robotics, terrifying dog things cost a whole jillion dollars.
01:21:32 ◼ ► It is incredibly expensive to do what our little fleshy flesh and bones and blood and muscles do so easily with a mechanical device and it's even more expensive to make something like that mass market that you can just sell to consumers have any expectation of the thing not breaking within a year.
01:21:54 ◼ ► If we're lucky, we'll get a home pod with a screen where the screen like rotates and tilts and hopefully that won't break.
01:22:08 ◼ ► My I think one of my home pods is finally my original home pod is finally just like not working.
01:22:15 ◼ ► You can talk to it and all it will ever tell you is what you just said, Marco, like various excuses about why things don't work.
01:22:37 ◼ ► But yeah, in the meantime, it is just it's like sun sun setting, sun downing, whatever they call it.
01:22:43 ◼ ► You can talk to it and it just talks to you in a series of hmms and ums and not hearing back in responses.
01:22:49 ◼ ► And it will keep the conversation going like a telemarketer or whatever, but it will never actually do anything.
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01:25:01 ◼ ► Or otherwise, I'll just start throwing stuff against, you know, Xcode and start, you know,
01:25:42 ◼ ► So, you know, in the era of SwiftUI, this is actually great for my workflow here, such as it is,
01:25:52 ◼ ► And this is, like, one of the things I've cited, I don't know, I talked about it under the radar a bit,
01:26:01 ◼ ► its prickliness in certain points, is that it allows me to quickly iterate and try different designs
01:26:08 ◼ ► and try, like, radically different layouts and techniques fairly quickly so that I, you know,
01:26:15 ◼ ► it's similar to the type of prototyping that, and kind of design iteration that I think other people
01:26:21 ◼ ► are able to use these tools for, but that I'm just not, like, the right kind of designer to
01:26:35 ◼ ► And that's, like, my design process of, like, how I get good designs at the end of the day
01:26:49 ◼ ► And, you know, if the answer to any of those is no, it's like, well, all right, let me see
01:26:58 ◼ ► SwiftUI makes it so much easier as a programmer to rapidly, I'm not even going to say prototype,
01:27:08 ◼ ► And if you are primarily a developer, chances are good that your skills are more suited to
01:27:16 ◼ ► writing code for trying things out than they are to trying things out in an app like Figma.
01:27:22 ◼ ► Because apps like Figma or any kind of design app, it's, like, it's not like you can just
01:27:35 ◼ ► And if you don't use them day in and day out and don't know how to use them efficiently,
01:27:43 ◼ ► It would be the same thing as taking someone who's an expert at using Figma in Photoshop
01:27:52 ◼ ► So it's really a lot about where expertise lies, especially when you're an independent developer.
01:28:10 ◼ ► Like, I could learn a whole new thing or I could just do it in PHP because I know that'll be done quickly.
01:28:14 ◼ ► So during my web development career, did I design things using Sketch or Photoshop or any of those other apps?
01:28:26 ◼ ► I would just write, when I wanted to see a UI, I would have an idea in my head and I would write HTML.
01:28:34 ◼ ► Doing it in HTML for me is faster and better than writing down a piece of paper because the fidelity of the HTML,
01:28:43 ◼ ► I don't have to, there's no other step and I can do it faster and better than I can with a pencil, right?
01:28:49 ◼ ► It's like, well, sure, you need some place to, to sketch out these ideas and prototype them.
01:28:53 ◼ ► It's like, I'm faster just doing it, like doing the code, doing the HTML, doing whatever.
01:28:58 ◼ ► It's not like the finished version, but that literally is for people with that skillset, the fastest, best way to design things.
01:29:05 ◼ ► It's only not that way if you're actually better with a pencil and paper, a pen and paper, Photoshop, Figma or whatever.
01:29:13 ◼ ► And again, you can learn new skills in those areas, but to be really fast with those design tools does actually require lots of use and experience.
01:29:28 ◼ ► There's, there's ways to be more efficient in using the tools that people who do it professionally and repeatedly know that I certainly don't.
01:29:42 ◼ ► It's even faster than doing it in Interface Builder, which is another example of like, oh, you can just mock it up in Interface Builder.
01:29:46 ◼ ► At this point, it's probably faster just to do it in SwiftUI because I'm going to have to do it in SwiftUI anyway.
01:29:54 ◼ ► And so why would I, why would I pull out Interface Builder and drag a bunch of little things out and arrange things and say, okay, now I'll go make that in SwiftUI.
01:30:11 ◼ ► If you were adding new spinning drives for media or Linux ISOs in 2025, would you format the file system as APFS or HFS plus?
01:30:22 ◼ ► I'm using a QNAP 4 bay configured as just a bunch of disks connected to a Mac mini via USB.
01:30:27 ◼ ► HFS plus is still kind of relevant because it is a file system that was designed in the age of spinning disks.
01:30:34 ◼ ► So its behavior with respect to locality of disk head movement is so much better than APFS, that it is a faster file system on spinning disks.
01:30:50 ◼ ► I feel like, especially in the context given here, if you have a spinning disk and it's connected to like a NAS, don't use any Mac file system.
01:31:01 ◼ ► Use BTRFS, you have EXT4, use ZFS, use something else better suited to that task because then you can just SMB mount it on your Mac and it will be fine.
01:31:11 ◼ ► It's a reason we wanted to get away from HFS plus, despite the fact that it is very efficient for spinning disks as compared to APFS, it is not a great file system.
01:31:19 ◼ ► It doesn't have lots of file system features that you might want, especially for something like a NAS.
01:31:26 ◼ ► My personal choice, even when I had spinning disks, you know, in the age of APFS, I would format all my spinning disks as APFS.
01:31:36 ◼ ► But normally what I was keeping on those disks was like large files and other stuff where the performance doesn't really matter
01:31:45 ◼ ► I just took the speed hit because I was sick of problems with HFS plus and I wanted the reliability of APFS despite the performance.
01:31:53 ◼ ► So my recommendation, I think it is still relevant for people who want to make that trade off.
01:32:05 ◼ ► But only do that if you're forced to directly connect the disk to your Mac and you can't stand the speed hit of APFS and you're okay with running disk utility, everyone's allowed to repair errors or you don't care about errors or whatever.
01:32:17 ◼ ► In all other cases, either use APFS on spinning disks and just take the hit or if anything, if at all possible and you're in a NAS-like scenario, don't use any Apple file system.
01:32:29 ◼ ► Leon Cowell writes, when discussing John's new app, he briefly mentioned the many aspects of files to consider, metadata, extended attributes, ACLs, et cetera.
01:32:39 ◼ ► How will your tool handle that as it deletes a file and then replaces it with a copy-on-write clone?
01:33:16 ◼ ► That's the thing you're going to have one instance of, whereas before you had multiple instances of.
01:33:22 ◼ ► Everything else is private and will remain private to each individual file with no sharing whatsoever.
01:33:32 ◼ ► I also look at the resource fork, which technically I don't think I have to do, but I'm just doing out of habit.
01:33:46 ◼ ► So for two files to be considered identical, they must have the same data fork and the same resource fork, even though the resource fork is accessed through an extended attribute, blah, blah, blah.
01:33:55 ◼ ► Although apparently I do because I have all these ancient files on my, from like old Mac games, classic Mac games buried in my games folders.
01:34:06 ◼ ► Once you've decided that two files have the same data in them and you're going to do a space saving clone.
01:34:20 ◼ ► And then the file that you're getting rid of or replacing with the clone, you've got to copy all of that metadata to the new replacement file.
01:34:33 ◼ ► Every extended attribute, every permission thing, obviously the file name, all the file dates, so on and so forth.
01:34:51 ◼ ► And you can call APIs that supposedly set it, like things like the last open time, last access time.
01:35:07 ◼ ► Because it's like, you're trying to tell me the last time this file was accessed was sometime in the past, but you just accessed it, man.
01:35:28 ◼ ► And so even though the APIs for setting that return success and there is no error, most of the time the file system will ignore you.
01:35:39 ◼ ► Like, there's a bunch of extended attributes that Apple doesn't really document well that do various things.
01:35:49 ◼ ► Like, I tried to set all the ones that I can set, but if there are ones that are meaningful that I can't set, like literally can't, especially ones that I don't really know, like it's like binary blob of stuff that I don't understand.
01:36:00 ◼ ► My app will throw up its hand and say, look, I tried to, I tried to save your space in this one, but I couldn't set the com.apple.macl extended attribute.
01:36:25 ◼ ► There is no way that I've been able to find to have any sort of like, why don't you just ask me to authenticate it as an admin user and then your app can do anything.
01:36:32 ◼ ► I don't think you can put an app in the Mac app store that does that, even though I'm sure there are ones that are there.
01:36:43 ◼ ► So again, in future versions, I might have an unsanded boxed helper app to help out with this.
01:36:47 ◼ ► But right now, if, for example, you want to reclaim space used by a file that you do not own, you can't do that because my app can't set the owner back to whatever it really is.
01:37:17 ◼ ► So again, if I cannot get the metadata to match to the best of my ability, what I think is the stuff that it needs to match, I'll show an error and say I couldn't do that for you.
01:37:29 ◼ ► Or in many cases, if I know I won't be able to do it, I'll just skip over it and not include it in one of the eligible files.
01:37:39 ◼ ► So, for example, if I can't set some date thing, like the last access date, the fact that I can't set that, I'm fine with that.
01:37:47 ◼ ► Like, honestly, because I would never be able to clone a file if people insisted that date stay the same.
01:38:10 ◼ ► So, yeah, I'm pretty much doing, I'm making best possible effort for a Mac sandboxed app.
01:38:19 ◼ ► And if it is, my app should bail out and say I couldn't do this file and move on to the next one.
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01:40:18 ◼ ► Oh, I didn't get it either, but that actually, that was a much better joke than either of us gave you credit for.
01:40:31 ◼ ► I had mentioned that I discovered this, or I had known about this audio technology called Dante that allowed you to route audio signals over the network.
01:40:38 ◼ ► I'd never really used it, and last week I had discovered that I can indeed use it for some of the needs at the restaurant.
01:40:45 ◼ ► Basically, like, you know, certain, like, you know, DJ input area is very far away from the amps and mixer and control areas and stuff like that.
01:40:54 ◼ ► So, and then the subwoofers are really far away from everything else, and so how do we, you know, how do we link everything up?
01:41:00 ◼ ► And the way it's been done so far is with a large quantity of very old and unreliable cables that are snaked around the entire restaurant, you know, collecting dust and looking bad.
01:41:15 ◼ ► So, anyway, I was seeking to reduce some of this cable clutter and simplify certain things, make things more reliable and less reliant on very long analog cables snaked behind God knows what.
01:41:29 ◼ ► So, anyway, Dante is, I haven't actually had a chance to set up Dante yet, but I have all the hardware.
01:41:39 ◼ ► They're like XLR ports with network ports on the other side, and you just, like, plug them into the network, and there you have XLR in or out.
01:41:49 ◼ ► We got a lot of feedback from people who are familiar with Dante or who use it professionally.
01:41:55 ◼ ► It's kind of like if we had been listening to a podcast and someone on the, if we three had been listening to a podcast and the person on the podcast said, yeah, I've been trying to do this project.
01:42:03 ◼ ► And someone told me about this thing called Linux, and, like, it's, like, a different kind of operating system that you might be able to use in this application, so I'm going to look into that.
01:42:13 ◼ ► It's, like, the whole world except for us knew about Dante, and once you mentioned it, they came out of the woodwork, and it's, like, yes, a million people who use Dante for a living listen to this show, and you're going to hear, but it's, like, saying, have you heard of this thing called Linux?
01:42:39 ◼ ► There was one that was from people who said, I learned about Dante, not I use it, that's separate.
01:42:47 ◼ ► I learned about Dante through some way, and you really should have a totally physically separate network for it.
01:42:54 ◼ ► And then the other group of feedback was, I actually use Dante professionally, and this will be fine on your network.
01:43:09 ◼ ► There was a bunch of wiring that had to happen over my last few visits there, but I'm looking forward to trying it probably next week.
01:43:18 ◼ ► The feedback we got suggested that, yes, it's very dependent on, obviously, like, your network speeds, your network switching architecture, and how, you know, do you switch to support QoS, or do you want to isolate Dante onto its own VLAN and prioritize that VLAN?
01:43:35 ◼ ► So, I've been doing a bunch of research on, you know, which of these things I should do, how do I do that?
01:43:40 ◼ ► The good thing is, I am using all Ubiquiti gear, and I thought, this would be a really good opportunity to try something I haven't done before.
01:44:07 ◼ ► So, what everyone said with Dante was, like, you know, you just got to make sure that your network doesn't get clogged up with other stuff.
01:44:15 ◼ ► The Internet connection is used for, you know, there's going to be, like, wireless terminals here and there.
01:44:20 ◼ ► I'm sure that's not much bandwidth, but still, wireless terminals for the POS, the little walk-around handhelds.
01:44:25 ◼ ► There's going to be, you know, the TV streaming over the Wi-Fi, or over the Ethernet, rather, but over the network.
01:44:33 ◼ ► I have a guest network for the Wi-Fi, but I have it right now, limited in Ubiquiti settings to 100 megabits total.
01:44:42 ◼ ► But I'm like, you know, the way the wiring is routed through the restaurant, the signals for Dante, in order to get from one location, like, from basically from the DJ plug-in to the speakers and the mixer and everything, it has to go through two switches.
01:45:01 ◼ ► And I'm like, well, what's the latency of Ethernet between switches that are, you know, well-performing switches?
01:45:07 ◼ ► Like, does 10 gigabit Ethernet actually have substantially lower latency than one gigabit Ethernet, or does it just run, like, more in parallel?
01:45:14 ◼ ► And I did some quick chat GPT research, and apparently 10 gigabit Ethernet has way lower latency, because it is just running the whole protocol just runs at faster data rates.
01:45:28 ◼ ► So I'm like, well, if my goal is to have lots of headroom and to reduce latency, and I have all of this, like, you know, modern ability, I have the ability to run modern CAT 6A wires just as easily as I'm going to run CAT 6 wires.
01:45:44 ◼ ► Why don't I just run really good wires and spend the few hundred bucks on Ubiquiti's store to get a 10 gig switch for those two long runs?
01:45:53 ◼ ► So not everything is to, oh, and then the other thing, this is, the other thing that made this decision easier.
01:46:05 ◼ ► These are the ones that I have on the outside of my house running the security cameras and outdoor APs, because they are indoor-outdoor rated, John.
01:46:24 ◼ ► Perfectly well, and they're these little tiny, like, they're, what makes them great is that they are indoor-outdoor rated, powered by PoE, and also will then re-output PoE to their other four ports.
01:47:12 ◼ ► And if I just use that switch instead of the regular Flex, then I get 10 gig back to a home switch.
01:47:21 ◼ ► So I got the one, they have a, like, five-port 10 gig, or a four-port 10 gig switch for a few hundred bucks.
01:47:34 ◼ ► And so now I have basically, like, all the other, like, most devices will be plugged into a 2.5 gig port.
01:47:49 ◼ ► So for the two long legs where it's going, like, across the whole restaurant to a switch and then back again to a different part of the restaurant, those, like, trunk legs of it are 10 gig.
01:48:05 ◼ ► And, like, and, I mean, this is, the wiring process alone has been, as I mentioned last time, like, very, very demanding.
01:48:14 ◼ ► Like, I'm, like, crawling around on top of walk-in fridges, like, crawling through an attic space to, like, run different wires, drill, like, lots of holes that, you know, with varying degrees of success.
01:48:25 ◼ ► Um, I had to fish a, fish a couple of wires through, like, there was, like, you know, a wall, and I had to go, like, from one side of the wall to the other, both of them through holes.
01:48:43 ◼ ► I'm looking around, like, I had, at my house over there, I had, like, one of those, like, wire fish things, and I could not find it for the life of me.
01:48:51 ◼ ► So I go back to the restaurant, like, what the heck could I possibly use at the restaurant?
01:48:54 ◼ ► And I find there is this, like, this metal, like, the kind of little tiny flagpole that, like, when you see somebody decorating their lawn for the 4th of July with a row of little tiny American flags stuck in the ground, one of those.
01:49:09 ◼ ► And I'm, like, if I just tie, if I just, like, zip tie the Ethernet cables to the stick of this, I can stick it through the wall and line it up with the other one and pull it through, like, that's the kind of, and by the way, that worked great, and I've done it three times.
01:50:01 ◼ ► And hopefully Dante running on a 10-gig backhaul should be plenty for what's probably going to end up being something like four channels or six channels of actual Dante use.
01:50:12 ◼ ► Big question in the chat room of, is this Wi-Fi only for the employees or is it for the patrons as well?
01:50:30 ◼ ► Like, it's generally, it's going to be for employees' phones, I think, when they're bored and it's slow.
01:50:41 ◼ ► But those, so I created a private network and I don't intend to give that password out to anybody, including the employees.
01:50:53 ◼ ► I'm going to put the POE walk-around hand or the POS walk-around handheld things on that network.
01:50:58 ◼ ► And then what I'm going to actually give the employees if they want to connect their phone for whatever reason will be the guest network.
01:51:08 ◼ ► It keeps, you know, then I don't have to worry about, like, them giving out our private network password to someone else.
01:51:20 ◼ ► And if I need to, so there is, there's already a VLAN for the guest mode of the access points.
01:51:39 ◼ ► Because I assume that all of these modern ubiquity switches support the proper QoS tagging of the packets and everything to probably not need that.
01:51:48 ◼ ► You know, the way you're describing your backhaul between the basically front of house and back of house, that's what I was planning on doing here when I was still, I mean, I still am fantasizing about, like, fiber and whatnot.
01:52:00 ◼ ► But if I actually do it is more unlikely with each passing moment, especially as I get distracted with all things home assistant.
01:52:07 ◼ ► But anyway, my thought was I would have, like, fiber to go from the garage, which would be, you know, kind of sort of the command center, and then flow up to the upstairs and into, you know, some sort of, like, switch in the attic.
01:52:23 ◼ ► And then I would probably bring fiber into the office, but everywhere else would just get probably gigabit Ethernet, maybe not even 10 gig Ethernet, because nowhere else really needs it except the office and wherever, you know, like, the Synology ends up, for example.
01:52:40 ◼ ► Now, at the time I was thinking about doing it, I would argue that 10 gig Ethernet was far less common.
01:52:47 ◼ ► And the thought was I would be forever future-proofing by having fiber, which I know is not quite that simple.
01:52:54 ◼ ► But I haven't acted on any of this, and I am unlikely to unless, you know, Stephen Hackett comes to visit and wires the house with me.
01:53:03 ◼ ► I mean, the thing is, like, faster-than-gigabit Internet connections are starting to become available in the U.S.
01:53:10 ◼ ► Like, and many of the, I think, the latest Wi-Fi 7 stuff, I think the reason why Ubiquity is putting 2.5 ports on a lot of their switches now, I think, is because some of their access points have 2.5 ports.
01:53:22 ◼ ► Because Wi-Fi is getting so fast that I think at maximum capacity, some of these, you know, high-end enterprise APs can actually exceed 1 gigabit.
01:53:30 ◼ ► So I think it is worth considering, it is worth planning for a faster-than-gigabit infrastructure when you're putting network stuff in.
01:53:38 ◼ ► But that being said, like, you can get 2.5 over regular, I think even Cat 5e might do it.
01:53:51 ◼ ► So, like, there's, you don't need too crazy of, like, a wiring setup to have very high speeds, especially if your distances are short.
01:53:59 ◼ ► Like, yeah, I think regular Cat 6, I think, can even do 10 gig below something like, you know, 100 feet or something like that.
01:54:06 ◼ ► So, like, it is worth considering all these things if you're putting new wiring in, but you don't need to go too nuts with some of this stuff.
01:54:20 ◼ ► Setting aside the Finder's terrible interface to local file sharing in macOS these days,
01:54:26 ◼ ► I actually was looking into both 2.5 and 10 gig solely so the two computers that are five feet away from each other in this room that both have 10 gig Ethernet ports on them could talk to each other at 10 gig.
01:54:42 ◼ ► So, instead, rather than having, like, Marco's situation where he's got, like, the backbone of the network being 10 gig and then it's branching out, I would have the backbone of the network being 1 gig.
01:54:50 ◼ ► But just in this room, these two computers that both have 10 gig Ethernet ports, they should be able to talk to each other over 10 gig.
01:55:03 ◼ ► But once I started looking at the prices of, like, a four or five port 10 gig switch or, you know, even, like, one with, like, 10 gig, what do you call it, upstream port and then 2.5 between, it was getting pretty pricey.
01:55:20 ◼ ► So, what I'm probably going to do is just do nothing and then wait until the day when 10 gig is, either 2.5 gig is my internet connection, in which case I'll just replace everything from end to end with at least 2.5 gig because that would be worthwhile, or when 10 gig becomes cheaper.
01:55:38 ◼ ► But I am looking in that direction, like, again, because, like, I keep, I always buy computers with 10 gig ports on them and every time I have to wait for some large file to transfer from, or even, like, even just the Synology.
01:55:49 ◼ ► I don't think none of my Synology actually has a 10 gig port, but a new Synology that I bought, I would be sure to make sure it had one for future proofing.
01:55:55 ◼ ► I do wait for file transfers, and when I'm waiting for them, I start thinking to myself, like you said, Marco, like, would this be faster for Wi-Fi 7 than the wires that I'm using, given that these two computers can see each other?
01:56:11 ◼ ► Yeah, and to be clear, like, I don't intend, I can't imagine a situation where this network at the restaurant is going to actually use 10 gig speeds between anything.
01:56:30 ◼ ► How many tracks of, like, 96, 192 kilohertz, like, audio of, like, you know, high resolution that nobody can hear the difference?
01:56:37 ◼ ► You'd probably need thousands upon thousands of those tracks being transferred simultaneously.
01:56:41 ◼ ► Yeah, like, you know, CD quality, 44.1, which I haven't configured yet, but I assume I'm given those kind of options, is 1.5 megabits.
01:57:03 ◼ ► And so, yes, obviously, a physically separate network would probably do a better job of that.
01:57:07 ◼ ► But I'm not, I don't want to run twice as many cables and twice as many switches everywhere.
01:57:10 ◼ ► Like, I want the one network that can, that I know will have so much headroom at every possible link that nothing will ever get bogged down and make my audio drop or make my TV frames drop.
01:57:24 ◼ ► But, like, I don't want the audio to start cutting out, you know, at midnight when a DJ is playing on a Saturday night.