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the incomparable number 260 who
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September 2015 welcome back everybody to
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be in comfortable i'm your host Jason
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still and joining me are a great group
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of people to do something we like to
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call old movie club movie club 2nite
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we're going to be talking about two
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films that have an actor in common or
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perhaps two actors in common but one of
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them is more important than the other
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these are the hustler from 1961 an
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anatomy of a murder from 1959 joining me
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to talk about these old movies that you
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should go on you go watch perhaps
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because some of the idea i think i've
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never seen either of these join me are
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Steve let's hello hello there Jason fair
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warning to listeners out there we may be
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seeing the word panties during this
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episode so let's get the snickering out
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of our systems now okay
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exactly what I was doing I know a French
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word might be a little suggest kind of
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suggested most French words are at is
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good stuff David laura is also there
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hello David and no Monty Ashley as is
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out there Monty hi jason and the
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internets dr. Drake joins us again
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thereby depriving our chat room of its
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only participant it's like it's like
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when you want to give a presentation in
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front of one person you just ask him to
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come up on stage and join in the fun
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well i doctored ring hello lady bird and
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the ringleader for all of this of course
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is mr. Philip Michaels hello
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I've often heard about the clear customs
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of this incomparable podcast now I see
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that they're actually in place but it's
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very it's very true
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Phil can you explain to us why you chose
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these two films for us why why that's a
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company accusatory well um ah at as is
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the case with most old movie clubs
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because i enjoy the movies also i had
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them on the DVR and was feeling very
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lazy ride on a certain extent but
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mom I want to expose you and the wider
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world to the greatness of George see
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scott who I think is a magnificent
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supporting actor and a pretty good lead
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actor if you've ever seen patent but
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these are two of his performances that a
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10 not really get remembered in the inn
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but by General movie lovers so you
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really there
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I wouldn't call him deep cuts but that
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you do have to have some sort of
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knowledge of the the movies to know that
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he's even in these their anatomy of a
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murder is a very small role in a
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memorable role in the hustler is one of
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the central characters and I think I
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perhaps i'll be disabused of this notion
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I think he's fantastic and both and and
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the best thing about both movies and so
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I just wanted to to spend an evening
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talking about the glory or non glory of
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George see Scott now i watch the
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complete first and only season of Fox's
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to come mr. president do I get any
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credit for that
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no fact I think Georgie Scott Campbell
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Scott owe you an apology
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huh apparently I i lied i saw one
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episode of mr. president and so haha
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that that was pretty much the whole
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season and then I went away
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well that would be the point of George
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see Scott's career when it was anything
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for a paycheck
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mhm most actors do reach that point it's
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something i would agree with you feel
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that George see Scott is the highlight
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of both of these films and unfortunately
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for me that makes the rest of the film
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seem somewhat this is to somewhat pale
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in comparison to the moment when he's
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not on screen but think about that is we
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i'm sure that we will and shall we start
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with anatomy of a murder well a
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chronological is a perfectly good way to
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do it or or alphabetical you could do
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alphabetical too because it's still
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anatomy of murder
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well then then let's start with anatomy
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of a murder see what i did there are
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exactly what i said it was i watch them
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in the opposite order as I always to
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what is wrong with you lots
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we don't have enough time podcast is not
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long so anatomy of a murder is an auto
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premature movie Otto Preminger's a an
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interesting director and and and i think
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dr. dre might want to jump in and
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and the East strikes me as a fellow who
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probably has some opinions about Otto
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Preminger this was I think the point and
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Otto Preminger's career when he was just
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fascinated with processes and how things
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work because he made both this movie
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which is essentially a murder trial from
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start to finish with with very little of
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it left on the cutting room floor up and
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I think his follow-up movie to this was
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advise and consent which is basically if
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you took that ABC saturday morning
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cartoon about how a bill becomes a law
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and turn into a pot I remember auto
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premature being on a laugh in a lot
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he was also feeling on Batman well yeah
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but Mr Freeze yeah uh you know later
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taken over by by arnold schwarzenegger
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so there's kind of a german thing I
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don't you know I reason head it's been
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cold in germany and austria that's right
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apparently yes
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you know i'm not i'm not a big Otto
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Preminger fan i don't think i've ever
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seen Laura which i think is probably his
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best movie the top movie and what made
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his reputation yeah I love this one is
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up based on a book that was written by a
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a judge I believe a Michigan judge under
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a pseudonym and it is a case of a murder
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case as you might determine from the
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movie that starts Jimmy Stewart is in
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turn quite a twist it was like
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jaywalking yeah and yeah you really
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don't pack it in for anatomy of a of a
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of a civil suit a minor infraction but
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you wouldn't see it coming but anatomy
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of probate now they don't know that
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Jimmy Stewart is a defense attorney he
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used to be the the county prosecutor it
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it turns out that he lost the election
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and he is not taking the loss well
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because he spends most of his days
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fishing and not being a very dedicated
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lawyer but he and being a terrible boss
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by be exactly he's is his very good
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yes his businesses is is on the brink of
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ruin his secretary Parton who I would
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also say as a highlight of the movie is
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stevie is disagree playing bird no no
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I'm happy to see her in something
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other than Greece yes Miss Brooks 44 r4r
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decrepit listeners have foot which has
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all of them is oh yeah but he is tapped
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to do to to be the council in a murder
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case in which an army lieutenant played
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by Ben Gazzara it's impossible to say
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his name without saying it like that
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Ben Gazzara is accused of is accused of
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murdering the demand the bartender who
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raped his wife who's played by a very
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young very dishy Lee Remick um and uh we
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are as the case involves we are we are
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sort of led to believe that Ben bizarre
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is not exactly innocent of well it's
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clear that he did it hit the if the
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defense they settle on is that he was
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temporary temporarily insane and whether
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that's a bull crap or not is left to you
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the audience member to determine its
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probably bullcrap but it's james stewart
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and his and his dear friend drunken
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Arthur O'Connell if it's better now but
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creepy and parnell is the the biggest
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drunk and all of the upper peninsula and
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the state he asked Jimmy Stewart's words
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give up the bose if you want to work on
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the case
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No so give up for some reason that never
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becomes clear and I'm thinking it over
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so he can drive to Canada without
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swerving off the road
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yes and yes he does only on the way back
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another thing that never pays off in any
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way or makes any difference whatsoever
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yeah i recently watched users has
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exactly the same plot except the drunk
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actually has a reason to be a drunk
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yes well he's in the u.p there's not
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much else to do it up no right to tell
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me half my family's in the u.p I was
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there last year
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that's the entire story okay there you
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they settle on this uh temporary
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insanity defense they're going up
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against the the man who beat Jimmy
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Stewart for the seat of county
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prosecutor and it turns out he is a
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terrible he's gone so great now I'm
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right I i would take a case against him
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to which makes you wonder how he lost to
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him in the first place
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Brooks west
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believe was married to Eve Arden yep he
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was yes I just got the sense that Jimmy
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Stewart is self-defeating that he you
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know that he he's a better lawyer but
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you know not a better maybe it's not a
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better politician
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yeah so you like that was a he was da
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for 10 years so you did all right for
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himself he sounds awfully young to have
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already been da for 10 years I don't
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know he looks a little love a little
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older than I remember him yeah it's got
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some he's got some great articles
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although it is all great given the Milky
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films in black-and-white he's 51 if you
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want but uh Mitch the district attorney
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Mitch terrible stupid mitch is aware of
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his limitations and brings in a hired
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gun from from the shelter from lands of
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fancy babysitting dancing frog legs and
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lansing michigan and that would be where
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George see Scott enters the picture as
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the brilliantly named Claude dancer yes
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even has a closers name is perfect and
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so of after about an hour of setting all
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this up
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that's where it gets kinda long we just
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wear well i was i was going to say it
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picks up at the moment they get into the
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courtroom three
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finally I are you saying the same thing
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Steve the first hour of the movie is a
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lot of lot of setting up and a lot of
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hey let's meet all the players in this
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did you guys notice lyric my god no I
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believe Ike ice i use the words dishy
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yeah yeah yeah right straight from
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Colliers magazine
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yeah she's lovely but it is offset by
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the fact that she comes off as intensely
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creepy throughout the entire my notes
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say super weird and flirty but super
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in fact that she's hitting on Bigler a
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couple of days after her supposed rape
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and and obvious beating is just really
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off-putting it's yes we should point out
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that that Lee Remick was probably
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probably beat up by back gazzara after
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quite possibly of the rate by the
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bartender who we never actually uh see
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photos of I don't believe just very
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clear on the world shots
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yeah on the wall but uh the the first
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hour of the movie as i said is is a lot
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of setup and then it's the court case
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which for me is where
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picks up I i think the the court case
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has your it's it's a very interesting
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legal drama with your twists and your
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I don't know how much we want to get
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into those twists and turns but it's a
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lot of Jimmy Stewart sparring with
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his business manager and she's on whom
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introduction of evidence that that the
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we're at a magic witness appears that
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the the defense knows nothing about and
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the the you know they got bushwhacked by
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really feel confident in lieutenant
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flirty and we can talk
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this is firm sorry did they find sperm
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that that's all there and then the
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a very retrograde attitude towards
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sexual assault
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having that viewpoint as opposed to
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who she is she is flirty and that's just
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who she is and it's a little bit weird
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forward but just because she's flirty
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you know she's married and she can do
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portrayed as a victim other than like
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the bruises she gets she's she's making
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that some of these other characters
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don't come across very well at all but
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wonder if if the rape even occurred at
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point towards the end which is that
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those panties could have been placed
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there laughing please could have been
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placed in a laundry chute by anybody
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else including Lee Remick herself and
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this whole thing could have possibly
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that sort of open-ended I mean the whole
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kind of the whole point of this is that
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we only see really what happens from
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Jimmy Stewart's point of view right i
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mean we really find out what happened
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which is intriguing
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well I know that first conversation he
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just going to suggest a few things you
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might want to think if you can remember
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Mike and absolutely gives him the idea
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to claim insanity right yeah that's why
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I think more than the procedural aspects
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of the trial I think that's why lawyers
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like this uh this movie it's because it
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has the moral ambiguity parts of it in
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its end on both sides
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I mean Jimmy Stewart is doing things and
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saying things that are you know what we
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would expect a forthright Jimmy Stewart
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character to do and Georgie Scott and
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and the doofus that he's working with do
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the same thing they they're withholding
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evidence that George see scott knows
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perfectly well the the temporary
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insanity case uh that this that Jimmy
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Stewart's case is hinged and knows it's
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he just said he just doesn't say it
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yeah it because the the the bad turn he
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is like a doofus that rages no injuries
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guys like what makes up you know you all
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along without opening the judge would
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know he was hope he was hoping that
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Jimmy Stewart wouldn't find the
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president but he absolutely knows that
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the president's there i love that so
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yeah that's great see ya my favorite
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thing about George he's got in this
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movie is how much time he doesn't spend
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doing anything just sitting there
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watching jimmy stewart clearly knowing
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everything that's going on and every
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time his do this buddy starts to panic
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you you can tell from Georgie Scott
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whether or not they're going to win the
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argument that there's two moments of
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George see Scott subtlety in that vein
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that I really really love there's the
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very early scene when when dancer
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assuming bigler to be a country rube
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tries to get man examined by the state
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psychiatrist late and without formal
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petition but then it'd be cooler proves
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that he knows that you know that's not
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going to fly if they actually bring it
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for the judge and she's trying to reach
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I wrote it through and Scott is just so
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smooth and the way he changes gears here
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soon as he realizes the Biegler knows
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what he's talking about you at you and
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instantly know that we have the makings
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of a great duel here and the other is
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there's a scene where Biegler in people
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being the job at the jimmy stewart
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character in mock anger he slams his
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hand down on the table right in front of
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George see scott in one of his tirades
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who's just sitting there with his you
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know his hands under his chin and and
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and you see him to George see scott dann
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are I'd jump a little bit you know
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because there's somebody slamming his
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fist on the table right in front of him
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but he otherwise just doesn't react at
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all and it is hysterical reaction george
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scott also delivers my favorite line of
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the movie and it's set up by Jimmy
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Stewart Jimmy Stewart is objecting to
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something he says that Allah blesses the
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lawless truck I've ever seen in a
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courtroom and Georgie Scott just says
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you haven't lived one thing I think is
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weirdly missing from this movie is the
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end of the trial like after going
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through every witness and everybody
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cross-examination they skip the closing
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arguments entirely except to say that
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was the best closing argument I've ever
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seen I guess I think we already sava the
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trials that we don't need to see the
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summation but it's like come on it's not
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so much the summation i want i really
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need the scene where George Scott walked
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over and shakes Jimmy Stewart's hands as
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well you beat me or something because we
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never seen this guy lose did you want to
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see him lose Monty I kind of don't I
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want I want the closure yeah I want to
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see how he takes to losing to a humble
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country lawyer
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yeah I guess I'm Indiana to I feel I
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don't feel bad for George Scott at any
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point in this movie even even when he
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asked that question because I feel like
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he's doing he he's done everything he
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can hear right well they're both doing
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what they're supposed yeah you're right
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there and clear defending their clients
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are they're prosecuting the client to
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the best of their ability within the
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within the law
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I like uh and again there may be some
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questions about the reality but i like
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the theatrical objections not just
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objection objection but the the sparring
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they do where Jimmy Stewart is trying
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very hard to get the circumstances of
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the rape into the into the into the case
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and into the range of the record in
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front of the jury and he tries in a few
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different ways and you can see him
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trying to get it in and and what's also
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funny is that both sides are playing the
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game of bringing things up that the
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judge says you know we're going to
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strike that from the record you you know
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they withdraw their objection and the
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jury will disregard which is I think you
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see him that you've seen a million times
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and I've always had the same question
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which is voiced by Lieutenant Mannion
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which is how can a jury disregard what
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is already heard and and Jimmy Stewart
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says they can't lieutenant
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yeah there's a there's a lawyer's have a
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phrase for that it's called on ringing
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the bell and I'm kind of surprised that
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that maybe that didn't exist back in the
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fifties I don't know I've heard it many
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many times from attorneys and lawyers
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always want to do that uh they always
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want to oh excuse me judge I you know
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and then in and have something come out
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that objection to or not the jury hears
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it right and they know it and if it's in
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and I've seen this in news reports that
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if this goes too far
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they will just call a mistrial right so
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you as a job as a as a lawyer you have
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to be very careful because if you do too
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much of this it will be misconduct you
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will get in trouble and you will lose
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your case they will they will start
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again if you if you talk so you're
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walking a fine line when you do stuff
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like this and if this movie wasn't too
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much of that I can't imagine what would
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be there really getting getting the the
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rape into the case seems like a pretty
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huge you know infraction of that
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particular role well mr. Biegler you got
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your rape into the case I feel like both
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sides do it a little bit which is why I
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kind of forgive it is that is that it
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seems like this isn't a parallel
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universe where more of this is allowed
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than then I don't think both sides do it
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equally I think it's ninety-nine percent
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Jimmy Stewart he does most of it there's
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no doubt about it that that's his
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essentially his strategy at the
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beginning is just to keep on objecting
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to things and trying to trying to get
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this extra information into bias the
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jury his tactic is to go to fire and
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force the other side to object
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he's constantly ask inappropriate
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questions that have a good say I'm gonna
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warn you again counselor he doesn't care
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about the warnings he's a district
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attorney doofus like has that one
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objection where he looks like five
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different yet
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that he's objecting to that's wonderful
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moment to well that's too much for me
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so folks if this is the power the power
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of the folksy is Jimmy Stewart and his
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folks easiest hear ya do we want to say
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a word about Joseph Welch let's be
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honest yes
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yeah haven't talked about him at all up
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this one this week
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good lord yeah there are two pieces of
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stunt casting in this movie
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yes one is Duke Ellington and why I
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thanks bye I what's that guy doing in
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the Upper Peninsula of Michigan what
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have you that we get the soundtrack that
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we do with this film on I'm almost
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infinite I'm okay with that and all with
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you on that
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I'm perfectly fine with Duke Ellington
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but Joseph well she's unbelievably bad
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it has won a contest and it's it's it's
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I I mean we are you know we know his
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history we know why they wanted him
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there because of the army McCarthy trial
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and you know have you know shamed
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senator at long last Senator McCarthy
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but he's awful and terrible in this
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okay I'm not gonna I'm not gonna exactly
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disagree with you
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um I I am I loved him I I feel like you
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go into a courtroom somewhere and you're
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going to get a judge in every judges a
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person and they're gonna have their own
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personality and I thought this was just
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like well we got this guy this is going
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to be the guy and and he's Corey's
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quirky and all they got a guy who speaks
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English like he learned it phonetically
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it has no idea what he said open would
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Steve defendant Joseph Welch all right
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well maybe love Joseph Welch is a bit
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strong i love the character I liked the
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lines they gave him i can digest pig
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iron is particularly great and I thought
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he pulled it off okay i don't know
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anything about who Joseph Welch is or
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why that stunt casting so maybe you can
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know for me he was the attorney in the
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army but the the McCarthy hearings who
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oh ok put uh just McCarthy street
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got it okay you always the one who said
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have you no sense of decency sir
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ya got it and and I should point out
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that auto premature love stuck casting
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and in the a4 mentioned Annette advising
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advise and consent he is it he wanted to
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cast Martin Luther
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King jr. as a senator from Alabama then
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the end it was all going to happen and
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then it sort of unraveled at the end did
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that but the otto preminger never met a
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stunt casting thing he didn't like he
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cast Peter Lawford as a John Kennedy
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like character in advising consent as
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incidentally part of the jury mrs.
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Joseph Welch yeah that was the payment
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there was one that was his condition for
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accepting the role lovely to jason
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stevens point I i think the character of
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the judge is fine i sniff-sniff easy
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though his quirkiness is fine i think
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it's written perfectly well and judges
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do that sort of crap in court where they
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come in and they tell little stories and
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they did it
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it's very weird of his very weird but he
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doesn't deliver it well I i thought the
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delivery complimented the goofiness of
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the character it didn't come off as
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stunned as stilted to me so much as this
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is just an odd duck and this is the way
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he acts and and I would compare him to
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clarence and it's a wonderful life now
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also has a very bizarre way of
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delivering lines there's there's a line
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there's this pause its size it as if the
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audience is supposed to erupt into gales
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of laughter at this and I've i I've
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never really gotten that have you ever
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seen a judge try to tell a joke in a
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yeah that's how it goes but Otto
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interesting things instead of keeping
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the camera there on the judge telling
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this this legend thing I i it's it's
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it's just an odd decision that I think
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undermine movie
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alright well i did not hate him I
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actually quite enjoyed it what could I
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guess charitably be called a performance
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discovered it was weird and quirky and
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unexpected i would say which is why I
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kind of enjoyed also you'll never look
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at Floyd the barber from massey Andy
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Griffith Show quite the same way after
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he was working in Genesis a couple of
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tournaments
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yes yes end it
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I had a few notes yeah go through your
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notes I i like the line but that's a
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crazy name for a crazy lawyer I thought
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that was hilarious and weird
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yeah Jimmy Stewart warns her about booze
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and pinball machines and Men and juke
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joints i really enjoyed that too
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that's good advice to anyone and one of
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my favorite things in the movie and and
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it becomes obvious if if you're watching
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but i noticed it from the very beginning
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is there is a scene where George see
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he's standing between the witness and
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Jimmy Stewart and Jimmy Stewart it and
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it happens it starts a little bit slowly
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he you see a moving in the background
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which is what got my attention you're
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like why that's a weird choice
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directorial but what's happening is
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every time George see Scott moves he
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steps in front of jimmy stewart and
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ollie so hilarious has to move and get
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out of the way and finally it's like it
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just keeps getting in my way but I
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thought that was really that was that
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made me laugh along the way it's stage
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is great too because you notice it
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before I think Jimmy Stewart yes
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yeah you immediately see that he's
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blocked off Jimmy Stewart your view of
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Jimmy Stewart so you immediately know
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what he's up to and it's it's great that
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is I i agree that is my favorite thing
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there too and George Scott is obviously
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doing it instinctively because he never
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takes his eyes off electronic now during
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that he's he's he's looking at the
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witness all the time and he's doing it
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with his back to Jimmy Stewart he's
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blocking him all the time and he has
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great response when Jimmy Stewart
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objects
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I'm sorry I didn't mean to prevent the
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council from second witness then you do
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it again and I'll knock your block off
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that isn't overly hospital does anyone
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else have any notes that they want to
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get out yes I i have many infantile
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running with boy the actual best part of
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the movie which has not been mentioned
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which is the opening credit sequence I
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we have baskets so good and the
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disjointed body working so well with
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that Rudy 2d jazz may call it movie
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thanks bye if people don't want to watch
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two hours and 40 minutes of movie at
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least watch the opening credits they're
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the best opening credits ever i do not
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find it charming that Jimmy Stewart buys
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outboard motors instead of paying his
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employees
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he's already you're really fixated on
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what a terrible bossy said she's
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literally working without pay and he's
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buying things with the money he's
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supposed to pay her this this is happens
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right when they're trying to set him up
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as charmingly eccentric go out fishing
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that's fine
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buying new motors that's not fine
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so how're you supposed to bass fish
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without a new motor mounting the
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supposed to row i did not think that we
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needed a trick dog in this movie
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no I often don't think we need to trick
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dog but it's really not nice one
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especially not in San no dog I don't
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understand that whole scene is like
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right day we got a dog in a cage let's
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let the dog out there is the dog ok
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goodbye to the dog now look you can hold
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a little light looking drinks beer and
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passing down god I thought I was finding
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that mrs. Manion said that she wears her
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glasses for reading playing pinball
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things like that you know but that bad
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general category reading involvement
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she's a she's a cool day man this is
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going to involve the word panties ok but
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i will remind you know tittering there
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isn't anything funny with panties that
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figure in the pilot death of one man and
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the possible incarceration of another
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yep thank you just well it's weird that
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he did not mention also a woman was
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raped and that's why they're here not
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it's just how they affect these two guys
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over huh
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is it strange that in 1959 a courtroom
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full of adults would have laughed at
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that it seems like it to me
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it's a funny word panties are hilarious
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particularly I don't know who I'm
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talking to a doubt it because it
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keywords are funny ok like pancreas yes
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HIGHlarious word platipus see my god me
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oh my oh yeah now moving moment has
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passed pooks and finally this Ruby
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contains the line if they're high
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they're gay and happy
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yeah I refuse to provide context know
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why would you ruin I see the rest of my
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time I was a little surprised at the the
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importance of the girdle i I've never
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really thought of the girdle as being
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something to make a woman less
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attractive i always think of it
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something that's that's there to hold in
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not attractive jiggle but larger jiggle
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than any woman would like to be showing
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so that I thought was odd if you go
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around without a girdle then you're
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clearly a libertine apparently yes the
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the very long sequence where Jimmy
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Stewart was trying to get Marie hamilton
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who is like george scott in both of
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these movies to say wolf
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okay it wasn't there was no sense that
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was very anticlimactic
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have you ever heard the term washer went
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on with whalebone corsets
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yeah because well that's going on
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thinking what are they going to come out
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with here and don't know it comes out
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with wolf
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well alright fine i thought master was
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perfectly good to measure is good maybe
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master of like you know whatever and at
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the end
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uh when Jimmy and and Arthur O'Connell
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are you know I've gone to the to the
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trailer and the trailers gone and
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there's a trash can and you know
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arthropod also we never trust a guy who
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drinks gin there is I believe a blatz
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beer can in the trashcan you're going to
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besmirch in when there's a pan of blacks
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in the trashcan there in the Upper
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Peninsula of Michigan I cannot
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adequately convey it is absolutely
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perfect if it really is black stripes I
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stopped and I tried to you know I tried
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to look at that really blasters at the
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end of its what is it
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but you know if it's really black that's
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perfect now that that is that's
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wisconsin in the u.p all over is why I
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enjoy this movie it's a great before it
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it's an all-time performance by George
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see Scott um and there are some very
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good supporting performances by your
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your Eve Arden here Arthur O'Connell's a
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lot of good supporting work in this
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movie I like Jimmy Stewart movies where
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Jimmy Stewart is kind of he still Jimmy
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Stewart but he's a little bit bent we
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watched rope earlier in an episode on
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with the the anthony mann movies are a
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good example of
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of Jimmy Stewart whose hey I'm still
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good and decent but not all the time and
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this is one of those movies we've talked
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about the moral ambiguity of that
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character is a long movie yeah just
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Josef well kinda drag everything down
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the at times he does but it's a nice
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little potboiler of a legal drama with
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some really sensational performances and
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again Jimmy Stewart as sort of turning
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our expectations of what Jimmy Stewart
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should be up on its head
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I i enjoy that kind of picture and I I
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think that's two hours and 40 minutes
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well spent
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yeah I go along with that you're a
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beautiful man
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okay i know that i've been saying that
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for you but mentioning the wrong man and
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and putting it in here and i would i
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would put twelve angry men in there too
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these were films that at the time to
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push the envelope and showed us the
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legal process we didn't have the same
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kind of you know we didn't have the
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accumulated weight of decades of perry
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mason and LA Law and Boston Legal & and
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the practice and you know every John
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Grisham novel and every rider that wants
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to be John Grisham and so now you know
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we don't need that we have the shorthand
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we know the basics we know guilty by
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reason of insanity right at the time
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this was revolutionary like all we get
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to see the whole process the whole
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procedure and and I mean this the the
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other thing i don't i can remember if we
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mentioned this or not this is inspired
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by a true story of a guy wrote it
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basically was the first lawyer to get a
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new resistible impulse conviction in
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michigan and he wrote the novel based on
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that and then this is him crowing about
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it x where they didn't focus on the jury
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at all have you seen Joseph westerns
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wife that is the one part of the of the
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legal process that they really left on
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the cutting room floor the jury
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selection process so i enjoyed the movie
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well good for you thanks very much
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that's all i have to say but only
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because I Joseph Welch was mainly
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because of just
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it's just melted what else are you there
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you know I I actually sat down i was
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gonna watch half of it and then come
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back the next day and watch have the
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other half and i ended up watching the
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whole thing because it was I found it
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interesting particularly I the idea of
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never knowing from beginning to end what
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really happened I I find that really
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intriguing I being you know the kind of
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the the DA's viewer the lawyers view of
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of a murder case and I really like all
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the little mysterious details like I'm
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really curious to know how Lauren knows
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dancer from the attorney general's
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office because she's the one who passes
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in the note right saying watch out for
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him but there's just not that much to
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this case at just certainly not enough
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to sustain 2 hours and 40 minutes and
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that's kind of my biggest problem with
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it I mean after the first 30 minutes we
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we really only learned one new piece of
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information which is the fact that Mary
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more reasonable length movie i think and
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movie so I you know I'm not sure I would
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want to watch this over and over again
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some really nice things in it but I
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know it's not it's not something on your
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sure we move on to our next film
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yes let's well let's go two years into
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the future together
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Oh John Kennedy is now president but
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Castle a good baseball team
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I have no other knowledge about 1961
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haha the hustler
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so this is the story of that Eddie
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Felson Fast Eddie who is a bit of a pool
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shark bit of a pool hustler if you will
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I described them as cocky and he shows
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up and he wants to take on Minnesota
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Fats but we were introduced to Eddie he
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he is just a businessman on his way to
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pittsburgh with another guy
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yeah haven't drinks in a diner that was
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a bit of scam yeah there's it and enjoy
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it so hastily even usual for in 1961
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movie in that there's a there's a scene
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before the titles where I Eddie and his
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partner go into a pool hall and they
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they totally scam everyone have their
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money by by making Eddie appear to be a
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horrible drunkard who can't who who
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can't sing a simple pool shot right and
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good number they get in a fight because
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he wants to keep playing and his partner
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leaves and so is like everybody else is
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like well you know I can play this guy
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he's totally drunken and then he takes
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them because he is a a pool hustler
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right you know I wasn't fold at all
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because i read the poster I want to
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comment on these credits in contrast to
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the credits in anatomy of the murder
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these credits are like the credits of a
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TV show
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oh yeah yeah tonight on The Hustler the
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hustler assholes and other people get
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hustled I'm Ostler special guest star
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George see Scott yeah it is in
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CinemaScope though i don't i don't think
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i've ever seen a black and white movie
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and CinemaScope other than this one
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it's so weird to me that it's in
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CinemaScope because it's such a
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claustrophobic movie
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yeah it's all inside yet to keep
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reminding myself these guys are supposed
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to be 70 feet tall when you're watching
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this it is and and yet it is a beautiful
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shot movie
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oh it is oh yeah the pool things in
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particular are fantastic
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so speaking of wet
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the after we get through the credits
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sequence we get to the scene at the Ames
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pool hall which I I always thought was
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an Iowa but it's apparently a pool hall
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in new york uh where Fast Eddie Felson
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takes on Minnesota Fats in a all all
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night all morning all the next day pool
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contest in which basically it's not over
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to Minnesota Fats says it's over and
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Fast Eddie jumps out ahead and then
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loses everything because as George Scott
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points out later on the movie
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festivities a bit of a loser he actually
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pointed out right here for the rest
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today with this kid he's a loser he's a
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loser exactly just looked into his eye
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and reads is so I feel like George see
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Scott could actually do that if you
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offer sure everybody can read your soul
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they just have to shower off after so
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Eddie shaken to the court he loses
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everything arm is broken and ends up
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shacking up with Piper Laurie please
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Sarah packard in the movie
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yes it's nice to see Piper Laurie and
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something where she doesn't end up in
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pale to the wall with the kitchen
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cutlery this was her last movie before
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Kari apparently yeah I wasn't sure if
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anything else she had done
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twin peaks eventually okay eventually no
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sheep she basically retired for a while
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and then came back for Carrie but a
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piper laurie has your own issues
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you could say that yeah another
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unbelievably creepy female lead I think
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I'll sure sure that that would be the
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other theme of tonight's a movie club
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creepy female lead she's a bit drunk
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she's a bit of a fabulist but she and
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Paul Newman sort of fall for each other
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and are good for each other Paul Newman
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still lusts for the the the the hustle
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the the the the site of easy money and
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keeps going to the the pools to beat
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people some people recognize them as the
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pool hustler that he has other people do
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not until he takes them for their money
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and then they break his thumbs weird
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as George see Scott had prepped his
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prophesied yes immediately before that
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seed yes and was gonna break your thumbs
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and which point he falls in with George
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see scott who will become his manager
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and who will show him how to become a
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winner and not the loser that he is who
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always is a overplaying his hand and out
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reaching his station they go down to
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Louisville piper laurie comes along on
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the trip will advise gets it throughout
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yeah so I they go to the house of this
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what probably be describes the most
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papash man small all of Louisville he
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just knows how to have a good time
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he's played by marie hamilton who I
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eagle-eyed viewers will recognize from
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anatomy of a murder and jaws of a very
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different character year which is very
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different character I played billions
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mr. films i wish this guy had been in
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anatomy of a murder though i would
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really spice maybe they would have you
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had originally inappropriate but there
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you go no more so than Duke Ellington
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yeah so you just up from Detroit is fine
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it's not Duke Ellington that's why I
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sorry yes of course by all this time
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George Scott has been decided the piper
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laurie needs to go and has been
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undermined her and add this party at
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Finley's house he walks up to her and
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whispers in jersey whispers in piper
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laurie zere something apparently
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terribly suggestive not unlike the word
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panties from your team had she slaps him
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and has an incident and is taken
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upstairs and Eddie who is totally
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focused on taking thinly in the the the
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the pool game that they're about to play
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to sort of leaves her be she sleeping it
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off and bed under under someone's been
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code or above someone sprinkle of
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someone speakout um Fast Eddie
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eventually beets family at his own game
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he decides to walk back to the tattle
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that they're all staying at at this
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point uh Jesse Scott goes back to hotel
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in a cab and begins the final
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humiliation of Piper Laurie uh who
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hey as we pointed out is both an
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alcoholic and probably mentally ill and
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who after having now of course with
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George Scott reacts in the only way you
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can react after having your course with
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George Scott commit suicide
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what it's all downhill from here yeah
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Paul Newman returns to the hotel finds
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that is true love is dad pretty much it
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toward see Scott say-so attacks George
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see scott and then that sets up the
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final confrontation at the Ames pool
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hall between Paul Newman and jackie
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gleason as medicine fats in which paul
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newman finally beat Minnesota Fats
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refuses to pay a george he's got the
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money that he owes him and his told that
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he'll never get it a big pool game again
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and walks away from the sport of
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billiards until martin scorsese makes an
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unsatisfying sequel 30 years end but
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that's that's for another movie club
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that I will not host I'm satisfying
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sequel night that sounds like fun
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that's the hustler in a nutshell and i
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do want to point out that both the
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opening sequence where he plays at
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Minnesota Fats in the in the pool
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contest and the last 20 minutes of the
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movie where it's he comes back the
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sadder but wiser a pool hustler to play
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Minnesota Fats the ending is perhaps my
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favorite ending of the movie ever
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it's not my favorite movie ever mind you
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but it's my the last 20 minutes are just
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a masterpiece of cinema i would argue
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get on bird I can't lose
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yeah yeah i mean it's it's funny because
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you always every time you hear about it
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every time you see about it
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all anyone talks about it
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pool and for a long time well before I
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saw it I thought the movie was just
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wall-to-wall pool it was one you know
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they don't know Greek tragedy in a
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poolroom know and they don't have to
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explain the rules of pool right around
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alone billiards and I feel I 40 yet mr.
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Felson house not rules and I figured the
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entire thing would be set over the
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course of that game or order that
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Christmas is games and so the first time
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i saw it was like oh this is a film with
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real people and and and I mean I found
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the the parts that weren't pool much
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less interesting i wasn't quite as
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interested in ready i wasn't interested
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in I mean I was interested in him in the
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dynamic with Burt but I wanted more pool
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because those pool sequences are just so
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beautifully choreographed and and paste
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and shot and now defected well sound
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effect it out the wazoo me let me
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undermine my own choice for old movie
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club that the middle our this movie is
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yeah i can take your leave but it's
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those ya book and scenes in the pool
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halls that are just a magnificent and
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that that that's why you you sit through
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the the middle bit which kinda
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admittedly lags a bit now but it but it
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gives weight to the end
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yeah well you know sure it's but but if
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you never saw that bit and you just saw
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this two segments you could walk away a
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oh that would be a good film to you
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about the whole opening is it opening
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thing with the first battle with fats
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it's just there's so much in it it's so
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amazing i wrote a bunch of things down
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you know I I didn't leave you much you
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left enough where he underestimates him
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at the beginning he says you know I've
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dreamed about it fat man i really love
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that Jackie Gleason i think is great
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it's just so successional so great so
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great and this is only dramatic role of
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note and that was my thought was uh we
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wasted Jackie Gleason because I'm coming
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up as as great as he was as a comedic
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actor he is so good in this
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well I think his dramatic role in Smokey
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and the Bandit
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does come in come up I I take your point
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i take your ID well frankly doesn't do
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much except look at things
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Oh buddy Oh buddy it fills those looks
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below much weight
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oh my god no one else did I mean he's a
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large guy I think he's much better
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silent than when he talks in this movie
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and the thing that's that's really
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impressive is that he was himself in a
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beautiful pool player he was a grand
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player you know that they've very
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carefully staged those so that you see
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that it's him doing yes and he and that
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he's in some of them
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he's not even paying that much attention
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it's like yeah I can do this without
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looking but i do love the bid at the end
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where he where he tells a man what's the
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characters that whatever he tells Eddie
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you better pay many and the look on his
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face there is wonderful it's like yes
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horrified that he has to say this but he
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knows that he does and you know there's
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an amazing amount of depth in that one
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line they spend so much time setting up
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showing newman and police in doing the
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shots that by their second big game they
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had don't have to show much of the game
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yeah because you buy it when you're just
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watching Paul Newman's face fall as the
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sounds of a ball going off screen and
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apparently they only used um a couple of
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stunt doubles to do the trick shots
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yeah Willie Mosconi as seen a poster
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behind Paul Newman an early scene i like
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the clock to this is this is a little
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bit brings to mind the you know they
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don't they don't let you see the outside
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of the time when you're in a casino it's
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like that here they keep showing the
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clock as it's like a marathon is like
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the clock is advancing that you get the
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fast clock spin they go to a thousand
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game at four in the morning for four in
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the morning the order whiskey and
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bourbon and they've been playing for
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hours now but at four in the morning
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they say okay it's time to take off the
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jacket and get serious with this which
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is so great they take off the suit
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jackets is what the whispering George
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see Scott the morning the light streams
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in its cut that sunshine out there
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blocking out the world you know the game
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is over when fat says it's over all of
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that it's just it is
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yeah it's spectacular i love it i like
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the fact that the aims pool has to
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promise
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signs no gambling and no mass a shot at
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or below ya know that every sign every
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pool hall is ignored this movie pay
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after every game and soho no gambling
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and all i really like Paul Newman in
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this movie I mean it's obvious because
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he's the hero but his cocky smirk at the
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beginning of the movie
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yeah just looking at that says
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everything about the character and you
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can also kind of see why they would make
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a sequel where Tom Cruise is essentially
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playing the guy in this position is this
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Tom Cruise of the day and the charisma
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of him jump is just pouring out of the
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screen on this one
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a man I mean I i I've seen this on
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television you know several times
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oh you used to be played on television
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all the time when I was a kid and I've
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never seen in the theater but imagine
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him full theater sized with that smile
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and it must have been overwhelming my
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favorite George see Scott moments in
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this movie are during the first game
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with gleason before he said anything he
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just yells in sits there and watches and
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he's so clean and neat
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while everyone else is getting sweaty
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and exhausted and you can just tell that
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guy's above it or something
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actually actually my favorite Jersey
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Scott moments in this movie because I
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think I as good as Newman is George
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Scott walks away with this movie every
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time he just diminishes piper laurie
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like every time their on screen together
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he finds a way to just twist the knife
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on her up and he's um he's a monster and
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I love the fact we never hear what it is
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that he tells her
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yeah at at at the scene at very
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Hamilton's mansion yes but he there's
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this line up but i just want to know I'm
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not been on a cripple
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i should point out the piper laurie
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because of polio walks with a limp
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throughout the movie and that is a line
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that is directed so it's not an Eddie
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because he had Stubbs broke its you
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Piper Laurie because George see scott
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just wants to emphasize how useless you
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are the thing I like about that scene is
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the fact that she has a comeback for
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that and end at that part of the movie i
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was really i wrote down that I'm digging
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this emerging dynamic where she's
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starting to sort of match wits with him
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yep which unfortunately went away almost
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immediately by would have really enjoyed
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to see a little more of that before she
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finally broke down but definitely a good
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yeah my other my other big George see
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moments in this movie there's I think my
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favorite thing in the movie is right
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after George Scott and introduces Finley
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22 Eddie there's just this look on his
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of you know I've totally got you that is
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is subtle but it's it's wonderful and
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the other bit is uh oh there's a bit
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more friendly points out the statue of
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yeah he suggests that George see scott
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monument are not all for the odds and
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Georgie Scott turns to see what is
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presumably a massive set of go nadz and
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just says possible to stare standing
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yeah so my room mccormick as as a
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Eddie's partner Charlie I looked at the
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actor he died not too long after this he
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died in 62 at the age of 54 I something
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about this character as the the way he
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performs this character he didn't he
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died before he had a chance to be cast
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as the doctor and star trek but that's
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the that's how I read it is like oh my
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god this is another he could have been
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dr. McCoy whoever he's a he's got he's
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got that kind of like likable crankiness
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that I thought having never seen I think
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this actor before I really liked him and
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I was sad to see that that he passed
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away fairly young soon after this
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because he you know I like this voice
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and that though the way it was coming
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from this gruff voice and yet an affable
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gentleman and I i I'm serious i'm at it
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since they had three different actors as
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the doctor on Star Trek before they got
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one who stuck with a with the divorce
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Kelly they are all of a type and it's
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the same type this this kind of genial
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cranky guy and I'm a lucky lush could
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think that shit yeah yeah yeah like so I
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like that character a lot and that
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performance and ya know he's ease
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he's a very underrated in this picture
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because he's done by the second act
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yeah yeah yeah i was pleased to see
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William dwell the calendar Turner from
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1776 oh yeah no yeah well start a lot of
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things as one of the pool hustlers who
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needs Eddie and lethal and one of the
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other bartenders was Jake LaMotta yes
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yes I was going to school
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there's there's your casting casting
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this one is the bartender Jake LaMotta
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yeah but they have him only say one word
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which works much better it was a smart
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choice that's how you do some casting
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chain here and learn this syllable
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thanks Mac just Welch was originally
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going to play them on the movie went
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five hours long
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yeah I've often found queer the way you
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pull the center is to get to get briefly
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back to his to his partner i think the
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way that that that character exits is
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really really interesting i like that
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seen a lot where it seems as though he's
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grown to really care about the Fast
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Eddie character and and Eddie just can't
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you can't accept that it as even a
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possibility
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yeah and it's never made clear which
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which side is actually right but it's
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it's a really nice really poignant bit
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between from the couple of pool scenes
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at either end which is basically the
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whole movie
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yeah is I think really really poignant
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human drama that I have difficulty
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watching because i don't like to spend
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so much time with broken depressing
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yeah you get enough of that in real life
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except yeah I'm this podcast below you
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don't look like a college girls do
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oh do you want me to do just step out in
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the alley Jason stupid little sins are
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about 25 minutes of peace so that's
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already like an hour is an hour with a
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discrete-time which is what one-tenth of
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the film's runtime no no I lost track
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somewhere along the line burned you're
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right that the middle the middle bit to
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drag a little bit and and I have a note
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that says as soon as George see turns up
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that it goes from slow and kind of
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dragged into a fight home elegance
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Georgie shot showing up a bar so all
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that scene with newman and Scott in the
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bar fantastic when he just gets his cast
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yeah spectacular scene but the stuff
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that's going to stick with me i think is
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the is the awful love that the awful
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things done by awful people to each
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other but at the same time I didn't get
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say i really enjoyed watching it
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honestly it that the middle the middle
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third is not enjoyable
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but it's the middle third sets up the
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final sequence which is your just
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outstanding cinema enjoy the trip mixer
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i like that they take a lovely picnic
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with the guy with the broken thumbs at
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me off that made me chuckle it's funny
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you mention that that picnic seen Jason
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because that whole sequence briefly
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after his thumbs are broken where they
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seem to be getting along really well and
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yeah he's really happy the reason she's
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really happy is because he can't get
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away anymore
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that's right thumbs are busted he's not
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going to take off and play pool and as
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soon as his thumbs are back to normal
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that's all over and it's just it's such
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a sad dynamics that our relationship and
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I think it's the crowning moment of that
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I think is that in the the mansion in
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louisville and family's mansion where
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Sarah's had a bit much to drink and
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there's a scene that just seems to last
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forever where she she makes this slow
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drunken limping because of course she's
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she's got a funky gate from polio this
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drunken traverse down the staircase and
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through this crowd of other people who
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seem to be happy and normal and enjoying
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themselves and it is just so
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excruciating to watch and of course the
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cherry on top of that on that Sunday is
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as she approaches George see scott and
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he whispers the coup de Gras into her
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ear and that's sort of it for her but
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it's it's a wonderful scene and
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depressing and sad and so well shot
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oh yeah it's really well done
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yeah well it's it's there's a
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parallelism there i mean he or she
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becomes a better person when he's hurt
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he becomes a better person when she's
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dead now he redeems himself only only
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after her suicide
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behind every great man is a dead woman
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he says I character now picked it up in
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a hotel room in Louisville that's that's
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when he gets gets it
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yeah and-and-and Piper worries character
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here is maybe a little under written in
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the in the middle sections
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and which is unfortunate i think
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sometimes she's doing things maybe too
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quickly the they are that they're the
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kind of rushing through her character
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development maybe a little fast makes me
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seem slow but I you know she's jumping
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something you know suddenly she's not an
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alcoholic anymore and in and everybody's
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happy and but the first two scenes up
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between Fast Eddie and Sarah first in
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the diner in the bus station and then in
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the bar she is she is fantastic and
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those seems she's great she is great
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no it's it's a very good performance
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it's it's it's well written for her and
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she just nails it especially in the bar
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especially in the bar you want to go out
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in the alley
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god I just cinch so gross at everything
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where she's just kind of laying out
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herself as a drunk and this is what she
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doesn't know why was she in the bus
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station well because the bars don't open
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until eight am and that's why i was
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there i fell into that hole pick up
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where he's trying to trying to get her
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to you know head off with him is just
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it's so gross
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yeah and it's it it gives you a real
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feel for how nasty these characters
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really are my only two remain notes are
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really one remaining note is Robert
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rawson the director of this movie
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the only other movie that he really made
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that was worth a damn was all the king's
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yeah well which is a great movie that
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might be a future episode right now I
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should hope so but this is just very
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well put together in terms of just
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soundtrack in terms of actors in terms
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of of pacing even with the middle third
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of the movie that kind of lags as we've
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said but maybe maybe it's intentional
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maybe it is supposed to be a little bit
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of a leg to show that that is kind of
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how Eddie feels right
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he's only alive when he's in this very
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compressed time period playing this
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really high stakes game and the rest of
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everything is just sort of
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and my my only other note is please your
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God anyone listening to the sound of my
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voice don't watch the color buddy it
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like a movie no and the eric clapton
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song is good I liked the air that song
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is good
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that's the only thing good about this
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movie it's not it's OS it's terrible
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it's terrible thing it's martin scorsese
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doing a movie show that he can make a
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movie that's a commercial movie and it's
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paul newman making a movie the show
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hey maybe you should give me an Oscar
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not gonna I'm gonna die one of these
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days and you haven't given me one yet
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and work towards make them Sir has tom
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cruise's a puppy who demands approval I
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don't think you can blame Tom Cruise for
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it it's a perfect role for Tom Cruise oh
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sure sure but it's not a good movie
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anything more to say about the hustler
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in in the first pool scene you know of
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course Jackie Gleason's entrance of
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spectacular at the end of it when a Paul
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Newman falls down at the end of the at
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the end of the pool table
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Charlie goes over to him and everybody
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else just kind of walks out cut almost
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like they're stepping over the top of
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them nobody actually steps over the top
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of him but in my mind it's like they're
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stepping over the top of them as they
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walk out i'm not sure exactly how they
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manage to do that but that's how it
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that's always how it feels to that's
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very good
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it's fine in in a pit in the picnic
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scene we have which I love and it's one
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of the few scenes in the middle of the
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movie that that I really like you have a
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fast eddie explaining the concept of
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flow possibly before anyone knew anyone
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knew what flow was talking about and
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he's got that great line it's like I've
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got oil in my arm I'll see the way
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trailer on Alice that wasn't alex is
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running the show is my grits
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alright and then in the final scene i
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always feel
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that fats is on fatty side
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oh yeah well yes not just at the end not
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just at the end where he's sort of
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telling you know you better pay a melody
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or earlier on when you know past Eddie
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is talking for its in the first game and
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it and everything is on is on the line
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because he only has three thousand
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dollars and this is a game for three
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thousand dollars and he's talking to
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Bert about it and fast and loose and get
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on me bird I can't lose as he's going
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along and talking and probably talking
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too much and probably getting himself in
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trouble with Bert who can have more than
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his thumbs broken uh fat says shoot pool
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Fast Eddie and Eddie seems to think that
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fats is telling him I moving along but
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let's let's keep going
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it's did you know get back to get back
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to business here
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that's why he says you know i'm shooting
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pool fats when I miss you can shoot that
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is my favorite exchange in this movie
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but what fast is really saying is you're
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getting yourself in your mouth is
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getting yourself in trouble get
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concentrate on the pool I don't want you
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to get hurt by this guy and then of
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course at the end you know you better
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pay them all that and then you know fat
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man you shoot a great game of pool so do
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you fast eddie have fans never has
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anything against Eddie Eddie came and
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said play pool and fats a pool player
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alright I'm going to beat you for 48
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hours I feel like he's on the same side
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after the first pool game before even
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comes back in the pool hall I think he's
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already got fats on his side because
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he's earned his respect
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up to a point before you know got a
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little too crazy fell over on the floor
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los talas me that's has to know how good
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is he doesn't end and he has to be
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intrigued by the fact that you know he
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did this is what is it that I think that
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George Scott character tells them is you
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really got your hooks and yeah you had
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him hooked and I think he's still hooked
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at the time when when he comes back into
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the pool on that I think it has earned a
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measure of respect and I think that that
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last scene is one of my favorite final
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scenes and just the way it exits and
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freezes
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guys you know just started putting on
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your coat even cleaning anything we get
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the impression that for all his his
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bluster George see Scott feels like he's
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just escaped from being murdered
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yeah it looks like he he looks like he's
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happy he got out of that exchange
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without being killed
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well he's negotiating even up before
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that you know he's got the 75 25 and
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then he's you know he's he's moving his
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percentage down right yeah he totally
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got the Rock I mean he knows he knows he
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pushed it too far and Sarah's dead and
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he probably deserves to be killed
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yeah in fact it's a lot of gall on his
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part to scream you all me money in the
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first Wahby money
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look if you have a chance to shout that
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you shout that's just gonna break your
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thumbs they could break your are yes and
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you know when when he says you know
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they'll put the pieces back together
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i'll come back and I will kill you that
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he means it and it's it's just a whole
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that whole the whole exchange there is
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wonderful
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the bit where he tells him you'll never
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set foot in a big pool hall again and in
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Paul Newman looks around you know
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wistfully like well I'm never going to
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see you again that's beautiful
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yeah everything about that endings as I
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said last 20 minutes of this movie I'll
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stack up against any 20 minutes of any
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ya ever made it's just that problematic
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middle bit
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yeah well sure but without without that
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you wouldn't did the the ending wouldn't
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make much sense
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shuffle it makes a hell of a lot of
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sense safe and without that little bit
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when you need something suitably awful
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to happen well sure it is it would have
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Redemption
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why is he having a rematch already you
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just played this guy this is tom
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where'd you get that 3000th our church
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scott seems to dislike him now
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what happened to that nice girl at the
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bus now is there a Redemption I don't
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feel like he's ever really redeemed I'm
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you know about at all not at all
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he's clearly capable of beating fats now
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that I wouldn't call that Redemption
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well he keeps he keeps himself you know
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he doesn't
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he doesn't go off the rails is he has he
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has as he says he has character now he
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got in the hotel room in a sense he's
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finally acquiescing to sarah's request
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of him which is you know don't be a
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cripple and well I think he just takes
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the center the line if you can't play
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tops of the pool for 48 straight hours
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you're not worth anything literally well
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now he can now he's worth something
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no longer needs to play fool to prove
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himself versus Scott these were good
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Phil also long
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yeah yeah I usually have more notes but
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I if I took notes throughout all of
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these movies if they would have been a
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five hour per movie they say movies
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today along with their there have been
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long movies for a long time and anatomy
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of the murder man anatomy of a murder is
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one of those long movies it's a long
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movie just as just sort of in general
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though I mean I think of of older movies
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is being shorter and usually they are
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but it seems like for old movie club we
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tend to pick the long ones not sure why
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that is just like long movies Phil I do
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alright I think we're I think we've come
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to the end of another old movie club
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totally had that really have we nailed
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it we nailed the the company no mm where
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we are at three hours yet i know well
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I'll play some music on at the end you
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know I thought in the beginning and end
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of that podcast is pretty good the
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middle kind of drag little so I'd like
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to thank my guests first off of course
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the the sommelier of old movie club
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Philip Michaels Thank you Thank spy
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Steve let's thank you for being here
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thanks for letting me sit in pi m AA
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Monty Ashley you owe me money
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the attorneys will provide the
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wisecracks David Laura thank you i I'm
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gonna go lie down in a corner and die
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now fair enough and dr. drink thank you
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for coming back an old movie club
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thank you Jason I've got to get this
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girl off its killing haha and thanks
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everybody for listening to another old
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movie clip on the uncomfortable we will
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see you next week
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