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263: Television Shaped Like a Mom

 

00:00:00   hello friend of friend that's lamb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/0">TS</a>]

00:00:05   maybe I should give you a name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5">TS</a>]

00:00:10   the incomparable number 263 September [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/10">TS</a>]

00:00:17   welcome back everybody to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/17">TS</a>]

00:00:20   incomparable i'm your host Jason style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/20">TS</a>]

00:00:21   we're here to talk about summer TV and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/21">TS</a>]

00:00:23   in particular I feel like the summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/23">TS</a>]

00:00:24   2015 is gonna be remembered for two very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/24">TS</a>]

00:00:27   interesting TV series that would that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/27">TS</a>]

00:00:30   ran entirely the summer their first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32   season's intriguing stuff on AMC in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/32">TS</a>]

00:00:36   United States humans and the USA in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39   United States mr. robot to very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/39">TS</a>]

00:00:42   interesting shows as was pointed out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/42">TS</a>]

00:00:44   Twitter to us today humans very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/44">TS</a>]

00:00:46   interesting story about robots mr. robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/46">TS</a>]

00:00:48   very interesting story about humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/48">TS</a>]

00:00:51   go figure it's like they planned it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53   joining me to talk about these TV series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/53">TS</a>]

00:00:55   are three very interesting people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/55">TS</a>]

00:00:57   David laura is out there hello hello it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/57">TS</a>]

00:01:01   reminds me why do we park on a driveway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/61">TS</a>]

00:01:02   and drive on a parkway John Syracuse is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/62">TS</a>]

00:01:05   also here I'm ready to talk about mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07   robot and it's crazy episode titles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09   yes oh yes we'll get there we'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/69">TS</a>]

00:01:12   there and Merlin man is here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/72">TS</a>]

00:01:14   I'm one hello friend hello friend that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/74">TS</a>]

00:01:17   was laying we start with a mr. robot I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/77">TS</a>]

00:01:21   gonna fire off the spoiler horn very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/81">TS</a>]

00:01:22   soon because it needs to be done but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/82">TS</a>]

00:01:25   can consult the show notes if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/85">TS</a>]

00:01:26   to find out how far ahead you need skip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   if you want to hear us talk about humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30   but not get spoiler spoiled about mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32   robot but before we get started with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/92">TS</a>]

00:01:33   with the spoilers at least worth saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/93">TS</a>]

00:01:36   mr. robot as a runs on USA USA you may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/96">TS</a>]

00:01:40   know it as what famous for what they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/100">TS</a>]

00:01:42   called the blue sky shows friendly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/102">TS</a>]

00:01:45   the monk you know monk he's a friendly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/105">TS</a>]

00:01:47   guy your characters are well characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/107">TS</a>]

00:01:49   are welcome everybody has a good time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/109">TS</a>]

00:01:51   mysteries are solved nobody gets to hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/111">TS</a>]

00:01:54   this is a nice comfort food of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/114">TS</a>]

00:01:57   television and recently USA decided that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/117">TS</a>]

00:02:00   the blue skies a approach wasn't good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/120">TS</a>]

00:02:02   enough for them wasn't wasn't growing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/122">TS</a>]

00:02:05   their audience and they wanted a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07   more edge so they invented something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09   stupid called the silver linings TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/129">TS</a>]

00:02:12   which is not a thing that exists and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13   dumb but what it did was they they try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/133">TS</a>]

00:02:16   to get some shows with more of an edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/136">TS</a>]

00:02:17   and mr. robot was one of those and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/137">TS</a>]

00:02:21   created by a guy named sam ass male who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   had done some a written some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/143">TS</a>]

00:02:26   well thought of movie screen plays one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/146">TS</a>]

00:02:28   of which was produced one of which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/148">TS</a>]

00:02:29   famously I guess not produced but loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/149">TS</a>]

00:02:32   by people who read it and yet Hollywood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/152">TS</a>]

00:02:34   never made and and he got he got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/154">TS</a>]

00:02:38   power to run the this show for USA and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/158">TS</a>]

00:02:41   and make mr. robot and the result is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/161">TS</a>]

00:02:44   very I'd say peculiar skewed kind of TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/164">TS</a>]

00:02:49   show not like what I expected to see I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   honestly watched most 22 gauge how bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/171">TS</a>]

00:02:55   it's technology was like this like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/175">TS</a>]

00:02:58   bad the tech was in it and in the end my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/178">TS</a>]

00:03:01   verdict on that was that it was as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/181">TS</a>]

00:03:02   as one can probably expect from a actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/182">TS</a>]

00:03:05   dramatic TV show about computer things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07   but what was unexpected for me anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/187">TS</a>]

00:03:11   was how great it was quite frankly how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/191">TS</a>]

00:03:14   incredibly closely entertaining and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16   interesting it was so what do you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18   think of mr. robot my thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20   terrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/200">TS</a>]

00:03:21   I wasn't exactly sure what to expect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23   the title alone really in grossly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/203">TS</a>]

00:03:27   lowered my exit the documentary about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/207">TS</a>]

00:03:29   sticks well you and your pal team given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/209">TS</a>]

00:03:31   like the joke about you know CSI cyber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/211">TS</a>]

00:03:33   and what's the other one was the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/213">TS</a>]

00:03:34   one scorpion scorpion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/214">TS</a>]

00:03:36   yeah where you know I Internet let's run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/216">TS</a>]

00:03:38   an ethernet cable to the plane as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/218">TS</a>]

00:03:39   passes overhead door so I can't ssh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/219">TS</a>]

00:03:43   way out of a wet paper bag but i but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/223">TS</a>]

00:03:45   dunno terrible technology when I see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/225">TS</a>]

00:03:47   and that can be really frustrating and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49   you know it i guess we'll just see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51   thing often say what we want it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/231">TS</a>]

00:03:52   something I end up liking to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54   Syracuse's term you know high degree of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/234">TS</a>]

00:03:56   difficulty lot of ways this could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/236">TS</a>]

00:03:58   gone horribly horribly wrong just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/238">TS</a>]

00:04:00   think its conception see I want another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/240">TS</a>]

00:04:03   concern you know gosh this seems so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/243">TS</a>]

00:04:04   timely everybody's worried about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   hacking I'm gonna get hacked in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/246">TS</a>]

00:04:07   cloud you know and you know just felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09   like oh this could be just another kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/249">TS</a>]

00:04:10   of throw away but what the heck it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/250">TS</a>]

00:04:12   interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/252">TS</a>]

00:04:12   it's got the guy from that night at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/252">TS</a>]

00:04:14   museum movie let's give it a throw and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16   and I was the I was utterly enchanted by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/256">TS</a>]

00:04:20   the pilot i thought was incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/260">TS</a>]

00:04:21   absorbing iie I thought the pacing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/261">TS</a>]

00:04:24   great I thought again something you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   Tim talked about on your other program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   is that the show really hangs on the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/268">TS</a>]

00:04:31   plays Elliot who I just thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/271">TS</a>]

00:04:34   terrific but the rest of the cast is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36   great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/276">TS</a>]

00:04:37   I don't know I found it incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/277">TS</a>]

00:04:38   absorbing in ways that I didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/278">TS</a>]

00:04:40   expect and it knew I guess I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/280">TS</a>]

00:04:44   feel like it really knew which buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   to hit at which times to keep the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/286">TS</a>]

00:04:48   tension high and keeping interest high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/288">TS</a>]

00:04:49   and knowing when to introduce what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/289">TS</a>]

00:04:51   ultimately very complex human and mental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53   and emotional issues even in the midst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/293">TS</a>]

00:04:56   of all this you know people typing in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/296">TS</a>]

00:04:57   terminal I I thought it was I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/297">TS</a>]

00:05:00   was pretty terrific make the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02   spoiler-free things i can say about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/302">TS</a>]

00:05:04   are to the people listening and that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/304">TS</a>]

00:05:07   the point of what Marlon made before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09   when i heard people talking about mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/309">TS</a>]

00:05:12   robot for the longest time probably days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14   or weeks i thought it was a comedy and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/314">TS</a>]

00:05:15   was not interested that's like another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/315">TS</a>]

00:05:18   Silicon Valley you know mr. robot is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/318">TS</a>]

00:05:21   a good title for the show I if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23   don't know what we're talking about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/323">TS</a>]

00:05:25   I'm staying away the show because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27   title ignore the title it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29   good show and its really interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/329">TS</a>]

00:05:30   it is not a comedy at all mother has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/330">TS</a>]

00:05:33   some amusing parts in it and yeah I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/333">TS</a>]

00:05:36   well I i think what we want i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38   talk more about what the show looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   and how it shot and how it's written but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42   it's pretty much impossible to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/342">TS</a>]

00:05:43   without revealing stuff I I guess on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/343">TS</a>]

00:05:46   internet is also working tomorrow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48   said i love the lead actor and yes Robin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/348">TS</a>]

00:05:51   now what he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/351">TS</a>]

00:05:52   see looks weird he is weird he acts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55   weird I've never seen him in anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/355">TS</a>]

00:05:56   else so I don't know if he's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/356">TS</a>]

00:05:58   actor of this is just what the actors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/358">TS</a>]

00:05:59   like and all the supporting cast the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01   people i have seen before I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/361">TS</a>]

00:06:04   and the people who are new just fit so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/364">TS</a>]

00:06:05   perfectly it's it's the magic of a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/365">TS</a>]

00:06:08   that doesn't have big names associated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/368">TS</a>]

00:06:11   with it but has good performances all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   around as well written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15   so you know you've heard people talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17   mr. or maybe it's a little bit overhyped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/377">TS</a>]

00:06:18   it's quirky and it's weird i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/378">TS</a>]

00:06:21   it's it's my for a variety of reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/381">TS</a>]

00:06:23   that are getting a little bit it's for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   this year it's my what girls was to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/385">TS</a>]

00:06:28   like last year and the year before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   strange quirky show with the though so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32   so title you hear people talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/392">TS</a>]

00:06:34   if you're not sure if it's for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/394">TS</a>]

00:06:36   you like girls check this out to I'd say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   I was gonna like it to orphan black from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/398">TS</a>]

00:06:40   a couple years ago was like I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   and i'm not sure if they can pull this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   off and I got kind of got pulled in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46   further and further and by the end of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48   I was like oh no this is great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50   that was sort of the the my expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/410">TS</a>]

00:06:53   were particularly high and I was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/413">TS</a>]

00:06:54   little skeptical and then it kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56   kind of stuck me in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/416">TS</a>]

00:06:57   yeah it's it's funny to think about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   know I don't the words treatment or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/419">TS</a>]

00:07:02   even the script but I IE I can't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04   imagine how you would describe let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/424">TS</a>]

00:07:07   you're doing the casting and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/427">TS</a>]

00:07:08   talking to the casting people about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/428">TS</a>]

00:07:09   you want this actor to accomplish you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/429">TS</a>]

00:07:12   know if you were to describe the sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14   of things that this sector does so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16   as Elliot it would it would sound like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/436">TS</a>]

00:07:19   like a caricature I mean it would sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/439">TS</a>]

00:07:21   almost like a like a like a baggy pants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/441">TS</a>]

00:07:23   kind of vaudeville idea of like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   kind of like spitting one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/445">TS</a>]

00:07:26   autistic programmers but he brings so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28   much nuance to it and again i might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30   cooking this from Tim Goodman but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/450">TS</a>]

00:07:32   way that he can look both dead I'd and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34   bug-eyed at the same time is it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36   terrific big bug eyes but he's got but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/456">TS</a>]

00:07:39   you we use met Elliot and we've already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41   know Elliot some of us are le and we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43   been around Elliot and we know that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45   not really just as simple as though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   that crazy guy who fixes the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/467">TS</a>]

00:07:48   like he brings he brings a lot to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/468">TS</a>]

00:07:51   it's when you realize the you talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   somebody and and the lack of a fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/473">TS</a>]

00:07:56   you sense is potentially either out an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/476">TS</a>]

00:08:00   actual lack of a fact they don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02   know they're not reacting to you or it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04   is completely the deer-in-the-headlights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/484">TS</a>]

00:08:05   and I and and I i have that experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/485">TS</a>]

00:08:08   sometimes and and that's what I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10   got from Elliott is like what's back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   there what's behind them and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14   brilliant things I think about the pilot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/494">TS</a>]

00:08:15   episode is that it plays I feel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/495">TS</a>]

00:08:19   plays us this whole show plays us and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   will talk to that after we fire off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/501">TS</a>]

00:08:22   spoiler but the pilot plays us perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/502">TS</a>]

00:08:25   in X and expects us to make every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/505">TS</a>]

00:08:29   assumption about what you just said it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   the kind of us autistic you somewhere on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34   the spectrum computernerd programmer guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36   ux you know those cliches are are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/516">TS</a>]

00:08:39   programmed into us and then it just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/519">TS</a>]

00:08:42   not small down as it goes and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/522">TS</a>]

00:08:45   realize what you're seeing is a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47   more interesting performance and much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49   more interesting character than the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/529">TS</a>]

00:08:51   that you might have expected from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53   know some basic cable show about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55   supposed to be about hackers right on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/535">TS</a>]

00:08:57   USA USA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/537">TS</a>]

00:08:58   yes yeah there's nothing else a if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00   you're scared away because you think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   TV show about hackers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/542">TS</a>]

00:09:03   it kind of is a TV show and hackers but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05   do not be scared money because it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07   does not just not it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/547">TS</a>]

00:09:10   the traps it falls into are the common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12   ones but it's just not important like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/552">TS</a>]

00:09:13   think whatever right we did about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15   show is it it rises above all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/555">TS</a>]

00:09:17   technical problems because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/557">TS</a>]

00:09:18   technology is not the point that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20   people who made the show did not get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   bogged down in like we have to make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24   realistic in its it's a human drama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26   happens the setting happens to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   hacking don't worry about even if your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/568">TS</a>]

00:09:29   computer and I think everything else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/569">TS</a>]

00:09:32   good about the show will make you ignore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/572">TS</a>]

00:09:33   the admittedly laughable times they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/573">TS</a>]

00:09:36   tight touch on technology that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   it's not the point of the show was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/578">TS</a>]

00:09:39   before we blow the horn here I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/579">TS</a>]

00:09:42   the people who i want to get your read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   on this John because if there's anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/584">TS</a>]

00:09:45   who can who can address this for me it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47   you I felt like this was about as good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/587">TS</a>]

00:09:50   in terms of like you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/590">TS</a>]

00:09:53   generally right you're generally on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   right track about like the tech that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/595">TS</a>]

00:09:56   they did show i didn't have those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/596">TS</a>]

00:09:59   moments of initially like no it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01   like that at all it was more like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/601">TS</a>]

00:10:03   are some of those in the first episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/603">TS</a>]

00:10:04   yeah but some of that like be that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   the even just like the terminal commands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   instead I felt like this is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/608">TS</a>]

00:10:09   ballpark and I realized that the low bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11   because of scorpion and CSI cyber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13   but I was like whoever did this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/613">TS</a>]

00:10:15   they they knew what they were doing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/615">TS</a>]

00:10:18   then the the writer and producer were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/618">TS</a>]

00:10:21   like yeah we're gonna do what we need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/621">TS</a>]

00:10:23   do for drama and and if you really saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25   hacking seen like the scene in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/625">TS</a>]

00:10:27   episode that was not you know there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/627">TS</a>]

00:10:30   more realistic it would just be boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   so I feel like yeah I'm gonna give him a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   pass for that but I felt like underneath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   it all it was smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/636">TS</a>]

00:10:37   that was not Ludacris with its its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/637">TS</a>]

00:10:40   attack in broad strokes of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/640">TS</a>]

00:10:42   happen are all reasonable implausible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/642">TS</a>]

00:10:44   and drive the plot forward but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/644">TS</a>]

00:10:45   not really the point in the minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   details they get lots of stuff wrong but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/647">TS</a>]

00:10:49   it doesn't matter you know yes you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/649">TS</a>]

00:10:50   forgive that because it's they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52   dwell on it that there's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/652">TS</a>]

00:10:53   the point of the show at all so don't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55   scared away if even if you're someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/655">TS</a>]

00:10:57   who's into computers did I don't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/657">TS</a>]

00:10:59   scared away by the silly episode titles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01   that are supposed to look like all names [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/661">TS</a>]

00:11:02   and ridiculous i like that i mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04   like literally the episode titles are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06   things you'd find on bittorrent also be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08   cool 8 respond to that the Micronauts on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/668">TS</a>]

00:11:12   there I'm just saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   yeah um I mean where where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   probably pretty certain to upset or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/676">TS</a>]

00:11:19   offend somebody with these terms but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/679">TS</a>]

00:11:20   mean i think it is there they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/680">TS</a>]

00:11:21   actively we're not saying these as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/681">TS</a>]

00:11:24   pejorative I think I don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26   there's definitely first of all I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/686">TS</a>]

00:11:27   there's definitely an attempt to and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/687">TS</a>]

00:11:30   least initially portray this guy as not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/690">TS</a>]

00:11:33   just having sort of mental and emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35   disturbances but i think he'd be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/695">TS</a>]

00:11:37   much reads as somebody on on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/697">TS</a>]

00:11:40   spectrum and you know and i think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42   pretty fantastic time for us getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/702">TS</a>]

00:11:46   better understanding of how it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48   when you're you know when you're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50   about people being on the spectrum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/710">TS</a>]

00:11:51   because we're learning so much more as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/711">TS</a>]

00:11:52   great new book about this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54   people in my family I I who have are on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/714">TS</a>]

00:11:57   the spectrum called people in my family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/717">TS</a>]

00:11:58   who I adore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/718">TS</a>]

00:11:59   I mean something I'm hearing a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   people talk about now that I learned on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/721">TS</a>]

00:12:02   a pretty long time ago is just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04   you know you talk to me and I'm i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/724">TS</a>]

00:12:07   nodding and I'm making faces and I'm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09   know a finishing your sentences that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11   know that I'm listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/731">TS</a>]

00:12:12   even if I'm interrupting you and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/732">TS</a>]

00:12:14   case of some of these folks and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/734">TS</a>]

00:12:15   they seem like you say like like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/735">TS</a>]

00:12:16   deer in headlights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/736">TS</a>]

00:12:17   what we now know though is that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/737">TS</a>]

00:12:20   looks are maybe not appearing to even be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   listening to you but they are picking up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   they can be picked not only be listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/744">TS</a>]

00:12:27   and assimilating information in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/747">TS</a>]

00:12:28   that you would not but that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/748">TS</a>]

00:12:31   I don't know it's it's a gift in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33   ways that some of these folks have our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/753">TS</a>]

00:12:35   are very gifted and what they're able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   do with the information they get it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/757">TS</a>]

00:12:38   just because they're a fact is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40   nontraditional the end up getting pegged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42   as you say being being a robot so I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   gonna be a little bit sensitive about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/764">TS</a>]

00:12:45   that but i think i made with that said I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/765">TS</a>]

00:12:48   think that they are very much setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50   him up part of their way that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   greatly disrupt our our our expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54   about Elliot article like oh i thought i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56   knew this and then I saw this but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/776">TS</a>]

00:12:57   know what that goes for a bunch of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   characters like you think you understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/779">TS</a>]

00:13:00   Darlene you know you probably really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   don't really building you know and i and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   i like that i like the fact that all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/784">TS</a>]

00:13:05   characters are most of the characters if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07   you think you understand wellick go away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/787">TS</a>]

00:13:11   run away thinking one understands well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/791">TS</a>]

00:13:14   never show well if your business card [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/794">TS</a>]

00:13:15   yeah let's just leave it though that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17   know we can just listen to these for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/797">TS</a>]

00:13:19   nerds like i can say with confidence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/799">TS</a>]

00:13:20   that at least give the pilot a throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/800">TS</a>]

00:13:23   I think it's I think it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/803">TS</a>]

00:13:25   engrossing and as with you know like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/805">TS</a>]

00:13:26   know how Jason hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/806">TS</a>]

00:13:27   we saying like least I feel like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29   always saying like you know check out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/809">TS</a>]

00:13:30   Hawkeye and saga if you hate hawk I hate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   saga maybe comics are for you at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/812">TS</a>]

00:13:35   give the at least give the the pilot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   this a throw because I if you don't find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39   it gross and you're probably I can enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/819">TS</a>]

00:13:40   the show but it may not be what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   think and i would say just at least give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/822">TS</a>]

00:13:43   it a try now and and you know kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   the point i was i was kind of reaching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   towards and what the Creator said point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/827">TS</a>]

00:13:48   blank is it's it's not about being all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/828">TS</a>]

00:13:51   twisty surprise eee right don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53   caught up in trying to solve this like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   buzz rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/835">TS</a>]

00:13:56   yes yes it's not that it's not the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   of it is not named night shamel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   moving right there are some twists along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/840">TS</a>]

00:14:03   the way that's kind of not what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/843">TS</a>]

00:14:06   story is all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/846">TS</a>]

00:14:10   this week being comfortable is brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/850">TS</a>]

00:14:14   to you by fan duel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/854">TS</a>]

00:14:17   this is not a website where you schedule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   a duel with your nemesis to meet on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/859">TS</a>]

00:14:23   community green pistols at dawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/863">TS</a>]

00:14:26   no it's much more civilized this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28   opening week of the NFL regular-season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/868">TS</a>]

00:14:31   that's American football for our non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   american football knowing listeners and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/873">TS</a>]

00:14:36   I've been playing fantasy football for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38   many years now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/878">TS</a>]

00:14:39   actually since high school I've still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/879">TS</a>]

00:14:40   got a league the stupid fake league we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/880">TS</a>]

00:14:42   play every year but it's the traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44   kind of fantasy where you draft a team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/884">TS</a>]

00:14:47   and have lineups every weekend at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/887">TS</a>]

00:14:48   end of the season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/888">TS</a>]

00:14:49   somebody wins and maybe throw some money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   in the kitty and the winner takes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/893">TS</a>]

00:14:54   vandal is more for our quick hit life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/894">TS</a>]

00:14:57   that we live now also means that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   don't have to commit to being involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01   grinding weekend and week out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03   it's the leader in one week fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   football and there are more payouts than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/905">TS</a>]

00:15:08   the other side so you can enter a league [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10   for a week we start a one-dollar anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/910">TS</a>]

00:15:13   can play there are bigger pay ends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/913">TS</a>]

00:15:16   bigger payouts if you want to choose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/916">TS</a>]

00:15:17   it's about a competition with the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   people who are entering that pool you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/919">TS</a>]

00:15:20   pick up team you don't have to compete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/920">TS</a>]

00:15:23   with other people for your favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/923">TS</a>]

00:15:25   players but you do have a salary cap so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/925">TS</a>]

00:15:26   you have to choose how to balance your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/926">TS</a>]

00:15:29   stars with your more underappreciated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   players find the best balance that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   scores the most points in any given week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   very smart III use FanDuel a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/935">TS</a>]

00:15:38   weeks ago during the preseason really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41   nice interface interesting test of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   you balance the salary cap line up a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/943">TS</a>]

00:15:46   of fun so you should give it a try by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48   going to FanDuel dot-com fa and tu l [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/948">TS</a>]

00:15:51   again this is not a battle between two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/951">TS</a>]

00:15:55   gentlemen from the 18th century who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   going to beat each other with little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59   hand wavy fans at dawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/959">TS</a>]

00:16:02   it's a fantasy football handle com fa ND [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/962">TS</a>]

00:16:05   uel dot-com click the microphone in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   upper right-hand corner use my code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09   which is incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/969">TS</a>]

00:16:10   sign up now and if you're a new user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/970">TS</a>]

00:16:13   every dollar you deposit will be matched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15   with up to two hundred dollars that gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   earned as you play by FanDuel so use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/977">TS</a>]

00:16:20   code incomparable when you sign up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/980">TS</a>]

00:16:23   phandroid.com fa ND you elle.com where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/983">TS</a>]

00:16:27   everyday is a new season and sign up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/987">TS</a>]

00:16:30   today thank you to FanDuel for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   sponsoring the uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/992">TS</a>]

00:16:36   okay we're gonna fire off the spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38   for now and if you haven't watched mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/998">TS</a>]

00:16:41   aleko go watch it and then come back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43   listen to us talk about the rest of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:49   the show socks they think it's good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:55   no now we know they know the truth or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:58   get started before we get into all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1018">TS</a>]

00:16:59   spot things let's talk about something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:00   want to talk about but I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:01   couldn't talk about spoiling games is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   how this show looks and how its shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:06   which seems like it's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:06   spoiler-free but I kind of think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   and I can relate to the plot because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10   it's not that these are things about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12   first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:13   it's clear that this does not have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:14   game of thrones sighs budget also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16   location of your interior is there some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18   city streets outside that's basically it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20   for the show like there's very little it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:23   seems like you could shoot a cheaply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:24   because you just need interiors of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   apartment buildings and office buildings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:27   a couple of streets very few locations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:30   and you're done I'd agree the only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:32   only exception i would say is that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:33   very clearly shot in New York and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35   make really good use of it being shot in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:38   New York I feel like like I felt like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:41   were in New York where you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43   they should in Toronto the dumpling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:44   place is a real dumping place you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46   see it on google maps i have been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48   in terms of it is not like games are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:49   throwing those castles had dragons or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51   CGI lots of costumes or 11 shots in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53   mountains or whatever right so and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   us a size budget right and what can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:58   really do with that budget to make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00   show interesting and I was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:01   impressed with how they made the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   not look like other shows and look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   interesting and and weird i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   shot weirdly is completely shot with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:11   first I mean like from the first gosh I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13   don't know i don't have in front of me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15   from the first I want to say five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:16   minutes i thought wow this this cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   really likes David Fincher it it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20   reminded me a lot of the whoever is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:23   doing the cinematography and making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:25   lot of the just decisions about a David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   Fincher movie and then of course there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:30   just the framing for the lighting in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:33   framing I mean I feel like it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:34   affront to John siracusa when I watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   at home i have to flip my TV in the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:37   mode to actually be able to watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:39   it's so dark it's not just of you may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:42   getting a little bit out of tune there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:43   but like the color grading is a lot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45   venture but the framing is crazy pants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:47   is crazy screaming I feel like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49   lower lower third like that happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51   what about thirds he's in the reason the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   lower one day 6 of the screen like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:56   only thing that's ahead and the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58   like is not even entirely visible the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00   ears off screen and just peeking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   lower right corner of your sixteen by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:03   nine screen is like I nose in an eyeball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05   the whole rest of the screen is back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:06   Todd vanderwerff has a good piece I link [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   to it and the show notes you guys check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10   it out it's on box.com about it's called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:14   the mr. became an obsession thanks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:17   one weird visual trick with funny but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:20   it's it's it's splitting splitting this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22   you know the screen 3 is vertically and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:24   horizontally see what it is not the rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   of thirds it is worst i think that rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   so eight so this is the official it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30   like a Brady Bunch kind of set of 9 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32   then you see these people on the extreme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34   edges of the screen and he's got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   screenshots in the story that a and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:39   absolutely true when you watch i watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:41   that first episode I was at and Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43   you you you mentioned this earlier i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45   positively giddy and which is why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47   think it's right to say watch episode 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:49   and see what you think I was giddy i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:50   getting for a few reasons one is how i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52   was constantly being suffered and all my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54   expectations were just completely blown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56   out of the water as i watched Elliot's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58   behavior and and one of the other ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00   is how is the visual stuff where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:02   couldn't I could not believe what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04   seeing it's like oh my god what are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:06   doing this is crazy and crazy in a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08   way but totally not like anything I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:11   really seen on a on certainly didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   expect from a TV show on the UN and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15   making its own visual language because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   it's done with a purpose like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:18   like they're arbitrarily putting edge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:20   the screens right it's not like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   like Dutch Dutch angular shaky camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:23   it's not like they're doing some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25   a trick like crossing the line like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:26   we're you always make sure that guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:28   left right so they have people having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:29   conversations and sometimes the speaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:33   a is on the far left side of the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:34   and speaker speaker bees and the far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:36   right side screen sometimes like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   like the heads if you take that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:39   krista frames from like showing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:41   speaker and then showing the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:42   speaker if the heads are close to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:44   other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:45   I mean I don't know if the trends are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:46   trying to decode the things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48   the people are shown to be close to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   other one of the heads of faraway the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:51   people are are at a distance next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   absolutely Liam that's absolutely what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55   going on and I mean that's that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   base most basic level then beyond that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:58   you start doing angles and start doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:01   Bob and whose below and I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03   something that every you know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05   bait the basics of cinematography right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   but done to such incredible extremes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   here's what is what i think is amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:10   to show that it's done to such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   incredible extremes and then the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14   that's in basically the entire rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:15   your TV screen 95% your screen is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   covered with something that is not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19   actor that stuff is interesting and cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   to like it worked into the shot it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23   just like it's blank background it real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25   and again it cheaply that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27   beautifully shot soft focus when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29   needed showing enough of the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31   when they don't and then you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33   other thing that just makes me like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:34   know my like Jason I was a little giddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:36   that makes me love the show you more I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:39   love this about girls too and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:40   the reason I i saw the connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:41   besides like that you know quirky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   low-budget sure whatever is the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45   title the title mr. robot coming in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:48   3 episode the title placement and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:50   credits placement is carefully done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:54   right in Michael it's part of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:56   to come across culminating in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58   awesome episode around seven ish or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   whatever it's running now episode 6 45 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   the big one you can't see it coming but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   it's like all here comes they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:05   do it with a storefront yes oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:08   yes let's put a payoff that and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:11   guess that the final thing is the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   which is like this show you mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:14   this to the mr. robot is an 80 spot this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:17   whole show seems like an 80 show it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   kind of weird that they have you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:20   smartphones in it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22   the music that the weird swelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:23   electronic music the font everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   about it just like warms the heart of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   the city's child which doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:30   sense for a show set in modern times but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:31   it just does well and it's it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:34   part of part of it is for me is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:37   it's so visually arresting me when I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   watching TV a lot of the time i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:41   looking at my phone and making fun of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43   what i'm watching and this I can't take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:46   my eyes off it because i want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:48   what its gonna look like in the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:49   scene or the next shot right and part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:53   the reason is not just because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:54   weird but because they're making these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:57   just sort of visual references to to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59   styles of things like Scorsese and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:02   Kubrick and david fincher and and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:05   it's amazing to look at and and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:08   a great article by Matthew Mads other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:11   sites we which his title is mr. robot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:14   not a great show yet i don't quite agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:17   with him but he he points that even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:21   of those things and I was so happy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23   see one of the things that point that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   the opening scene of the second episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   ends with music from stanley kubrick's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   Barry Lyndon which how random is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:32   but it fits and and when I was watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:35   it I would i know that song why are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:38   using it that's insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   what does that have to do with hacking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   but it fit perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:43   certainly more random the Pixies later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   but yeah yeah so what can I can I ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:49   I mean I I always I i make my mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:52   this to dan I'm back to work or we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54   in so much trouble for supposedly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:56   spoiling this show for people by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:57   mentioning the two words fight and club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59   but i'm curious John or whomever what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:04   you think is spoilery about the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06   it's shot that there's it's look that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08   looking for something that we do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   not there and we don't see a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:13   way it shot this is the second aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:14   here thanks for bringing that back with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:15   i forgot that threat you have when this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:19   out during the show they do Telegraph a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21   lot of stuff even though I knew nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   about the show again I thought it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:24   comedy and people kept mentioning so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:25   literally knew nothing I was not spoiled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27   by anybody tweeting or anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:28   that episode one right away I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:31   know where they're going with this i'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:32   big fan of fight club anyway I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34   prime to expect that kind of see where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36   they're going with it i hope that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:37   whole show wasn't going to hinge on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   and I'm kind of glad that it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:40   seem too but they seem to be going that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   direction so I since I knew from episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:45   1 this seems to be the direction they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47   going from from the it is starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:48   voiceover on right i'm watching for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:51   what you're watching for is like hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   does anyone ever talked to Bruce Willis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:54   right you're looking for are they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56   they going to cheat it or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58   the way it shot they they try to subvert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:02   that immediately by having people talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:05   to Christians later Drake directly in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:08   the presence of Elliot which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10   something that's done like it it's fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   game as you see later because of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   they set things up but they're on Graham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   right he's not an imaginary creature in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:19   the way actually and ended it don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:21   the fight club thing where it's either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:22   one or the other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:23   they're never like they intentionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   shoot in line things up to let your like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:28   what you're looking for i was looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:29   for it does anyone ever make eye contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:30   with Christmas later or to look through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:32   him and Elliot they make eye contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:33   with legislators in those moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:35   Christian Slater is you know that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   that with the person who they're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:38   to it you know me like you get that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   get the more you realize that at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:41   point Elliot is basically deactivated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43   he's over in a corner staring at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:44   screens I'm it's unreliable narrator all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:47   the way through to the camera lens right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:48   and so they get away with trying to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   you thought we were going to fucking but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   we're totally not like how everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:53   dealing with christian slater like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:54   he's obviously like they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   conversations with christian slater and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:57   then three lines later talk to Elliot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:59   it's like well they're both obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:00   there because the other characters were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:01   all talking to them right and just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:03   they they're like we're not playing by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:05   the rules of any even though they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:07   obviously referencing all the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:08   they're not playing by the rules of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   sixth sense they're not playing by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:11   rules of Fight Club playing by the rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:12   of this show on the road to the show our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   are the next level of unreliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   narrator everything that you see is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18   unreliable after the cameras I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:19   reliable URL you is like he's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:22   almost like he's not afterwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24   disassociated but as I went back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:26   watched the first episode probably three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:27   times and second or third time i watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   it as dan and I were getting deeper and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   deeper into this whole fight club theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:32   there was a scene relatively early on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:35   where where Elliot is standing across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:38   the street from the restaurant and mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:42   robot walks up and starts hassling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:43   people at a table and was the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   where I was like em I don't this holds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   up because obviously he's like acting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:50   like a homeless guy and he's actively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52   like bugging people at this table who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   are interacting with him but also as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   say in that case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:57   Elliot is an observer of that right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59   know the only thing we know is Elliot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01   across the street is is watching all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:02   this happen which i think is makes it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:05   much more interesting idea this did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:06   enough that's right words associated on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   like that he's got this yet there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   these two things going on and like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:12   you know and you know anybody also like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:14   me we have to look at some point about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:15   the whole evil Corps that court thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:16   and like how at some point you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   fairly early on unreliable narrator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:21   reading that he everything that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:22   mentioned a thing that he mentioned now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   is appearing on screens and other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26   are calling at evil Corp so yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:27   you say John you know beyond unreliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:29   narrator and then obviously then by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31   end of the series that you finally get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   to that like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35   moment where you're like oh no I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   can't rely on his narrow he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39   remember what happened like he is he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:41   truly disconnected from himself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:44   which is just it's it's so chilling it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46   almost like waking up from a night of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:47   like blackout drinking and trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49   deconstruct what happened was horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:50   nights in college were like oh no that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:53   happened and that happened and having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55   him have to start watching that dawning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57   realization as he's realizing like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:59   has happened is I found incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:00   incredibly affecting the moment where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   they I feel like producers are hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:05   lantern on it and and really saying and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:07   this came out in the interviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:08   afterward like we weren't trying to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:11   you guessing we were trying to lead you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:12   ahead of Elliot to the realization that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14   Christian Slater is part of it is part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:17   of his / own person if not his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19   personality that I was out ahead of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:21   but then like the show like I was out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:24   heaven i was looking for it but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   when I saw the things that the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:27   didn't like well wish the show is having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:29   fun with us because obviously it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   trying it knows that we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:32   expect this like when they were in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   the f society headquarters by you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36   Coney Island or whatever and they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:37   all the groups of hackers talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:38   together they had scenes with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:41   conversations and debates that involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:42   both Elliot and mr. oh yeah as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:45   they're all there and it was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:47   like chill out of that thing don't worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49   too much don't worry too much Elliott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:50   said it's literally said f Society like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:53   two times on the couch in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:54   episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:55   don't worry about that at all that might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   have all been a red herring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:58   it's all fine and you know the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   reveal of whom mr. robot was but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   was telegraphed as well but then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   spent a lot of the time in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:05   saying well that can obviously be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:06   case because he would remember him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08   they're having like you don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:09   the depths of what's going on yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   know they have a conversation about him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   we haven't seen a picture of him but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   the other hand you know obviously was as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:18   you know he would remember that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   anyway I i like that that that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   stirred that stuff into a big stew and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:25   also like the fact that that's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   this is all leading to what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:28   really worried about what I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30   worried about in the show is Elliot is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   character and how his you know how his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:36   life is evolving and what it's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:37   mean for all the people around him right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   and that is more interesting than what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:42   is the truth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:43   they're the they're the situation in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:46   particular scene it's much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:47   interesting to say I I don't we don't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   may not know what the truth is here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:50   how does this affect everybody else's we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:53   see kind of in midseason which I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:54   was a they could save that for the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:57   finale what happens to what's-her-name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:58   the neighbor shayla there you go like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:01   that that is exactly what i was looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   for the show is like yeah it's being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:07   close to this person with these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:10   talents but these problems as well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   these ambitions and these sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:13   philosophies about life has not good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:18   consequences that was actually was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:21   10 brave traveler episode 6 that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:24   actually one of my favorites of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:26   season and that i watched a couple times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:27   a prison break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:28   yeah yeah I thought that was I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:32   that was pretty amazing i mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:33   i did I like them all but I mean some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   more than others but that one that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:36   thought I thought the what's-his-name a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:40   verra verra those guys you know he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:44   great creepy creepy was a great and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46   but that's another one where like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   whole opening in the cell with bouncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:50   the ball and all that stuff but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   it's just it's fun to see Elliot on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   ropes and find fun but I mean part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:57   what makes this so great is Elliot on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58   the ropes being such a mess how he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   and having so many vulnerabilities and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:01   confusions and seeing how he does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:04   doesn't get out of it is is a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:05   driving factor in it i just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:06   underscore agree with David I like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:08   fact that it wasn't a puzzle box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:09   I like that this wasn't about like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11   is the magnet mean on the island that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13   you know like once you solve this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15   mystery you understand the show like I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:16   love that like it added a lot but why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:19   why do they go in the ferris wheel what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   is the meaning of the ferris wheel in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:22   the know ferris wheel Tim Merry back i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:26   added to marlon episode 6 I want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:29   about this um I liked it but it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:33   like it's the most out of place in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:35   entire season because it feels like a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   show episode like an episodic like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:40   week Elliott has to break somebody out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42   of jail and it felt a little bit like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:45   wasn't this about the rest of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47   but more like and just be cynical for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:50   moment like he was short on episodes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:53   they were able to insert this little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:55   russian that because shayla gets killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:59   at the end it adds something to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01   Elliott's character but it feels to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03   in most ways unnecessary which is not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:07   say that it isn't good but unlike every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   other episode in the season episode 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   feels like it could have just been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:13   slotted in or removed with very little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   difference so because it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17   you're going to contribute because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:18   didn't contribute so much to the f [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   Society and Elliot arcs yeah it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   selfie I mean it's a standalone episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:23   I thought it told us a lot about Elliot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25   but it was not stand alone because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:27   resolves the the shale Ark which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:29   true which is through the entire season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:30   I think the season has acts and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32   that middle act with shayla and and vera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:35   and everything how do you pronounce the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:36   name verra verra that was the breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   bad section of the show and then I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:41   know what you would call the first part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:42   and then the final third like it i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:44   break it up into thirds like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:45   there is a little bit of discontinuity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   there but i think it's not stand alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49   because it results like I said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:50   resolves the shale thread which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52   important to resolve because in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:53   beginning they set things up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   you've got the the childhood friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   potential love interest and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1977">TS</a>]

00:33:00   is it Gabby will they won't they type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:01   thing you've got the neighbor person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:04   also happens to be a drug dealer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   you've got the psychiatrist and you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:09   got the work life and these things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:12   they it's not like a regular TV show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   where he's just going to continue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   he's always going to have the the local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:19   girl and he's always going to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:20   childhood friend that like you don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22   through the first season and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:23   neighbor girl is gone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   these threads needs all go somewhere so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   she knows ark was the smallest and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   steepest and it resolved itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:32   midseason if you took out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:34   particular episode then what did you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:36   just hang around for the rest of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:37   like it's not that kind of TV show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   feel like everything everything in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:40   even just in this very short for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42   single-season how does Colby change how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:45   does evil Corp change how does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   what's-his-name the crazy Swedish guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:50   like well I had as well a time should i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52   see well yeah yeah every every recognize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:55   their recognize that name John yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   every character on this show even just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2037">TS</a>]

00:34:00   short season it was only eight episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   right out how many episodes 10 short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:05   episodes every character is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:08   different than you expected them to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:09   and has changed from the beginning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   some of them aren't even there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:12   that's one of the things i like about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   the show is that it moves that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:15   kind of see that maybe was the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:16   creative moves fast that it is not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:19   to be a show where season after season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21   are familiar characters have adventures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:24   because they're all going to change and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26   be changed and I mean who would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   thought that Angela the beginning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:29   Angela at the end are totally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:32   places but you kind of understand how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34   Angela got to the point where she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:35   scolding the the product salesman and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37   conflicted about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39   alright and Elliot you know he's on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:41   journey of discovering himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:45   everybody makes a lot of progress and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   think it is there is a thematic sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:50   potential and construct the magic maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52   like a inconsistency of mood like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   this breaking bad is this a sopranos is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:57   this orange is the new black is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00   monk it's kind of all them and one big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:04   glorious messenger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:05   well and what one of the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   struck me about that episode was because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:10   it did feel a little weird a place I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   kind of wondered if that was a script or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:15   if that started as a script that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   said show us what the sixth episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19   would be like and so they wrote it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:22   then they figured out a way to work in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24   more of the story line once they made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   the rest of the series was sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   well we've already written the script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:29   you know and and it can work nicely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:32   fitting in the different arcs and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:35   you know but ya did it felt odd to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:39   too but that's but that's a common thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:42   where they say what's the seventh season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   premiere tell me that before reorder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46   your series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:47   I and I don't doubt that in the end you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49   know you couldn't remove episode 6 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:51   have it be something else it just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:52   felt to me like something that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:53   inserted sort of later and then made to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:58   fit into the season which is which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:00   fine in it and it does that but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:01   it is as a standalone episode i mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03   you pointed to one episode and said what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:05   say you know give me an episode of mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07   robot to watch i would say watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:08   first one and you'll get hooked but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   episode 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:11   look like has a beginning and an ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:12   which most of the episodes they do but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:15   they're not as as clear as I i caii [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:18   total you know when you put it that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20   I see what you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:20   I just I thought I found that very guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:23   like so annoying in the previous ones I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   thought he was so good in this high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:26   Gregory you know what it is partly Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:28   is that you know what's so frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:31   about so many movies movies in so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:34   comic books is like it's very difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   to understand why anybody does what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:37   do and the stakes are always everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:40   and you know that becomes so frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:42   in common because you're like I'm why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:43   did they do that or like what does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:44   always have to be about the destruction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:45   of the universe in the ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   nullifier and all that kind of stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49   and i think i like that episode because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:50   I i liked it that the stakes were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:54   everything but also the motivation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:57   very very super high and easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59   understand and and I think it helps us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:01   understand more about Elliot to see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   know it's fun to see him like his way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:04   out of a problem but it's fun to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06   Elliot desperate like I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:08   really it helped to see him like again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:10   yeah you know up against the ropes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:12   this lake is that you know okay we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:15   haven't talked about the narration like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:16   we always no narration is death and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:17   his narration is as I think so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19   terrific most of the time now i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21   think you're right that perhaps in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:22   ways episode 6 is there to remind us the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24   deli it has capabilities and is not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26   a mess one even if we take it as read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:29   that society is a thing that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:30   participating in those goals for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32   happening and either our steaks if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:33   goes wrong it is it really isn't about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:36   like the the end of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:37   necessarily like saving the world isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   like that's part of what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   wondering the show is are these guys all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43   just kind of you know smoking each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:47   other's you know like it isn't i did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:50   actually going to cause the downfall of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   anything orbit and they play off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   evil corporate like I loved at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56   of the explanation of evil Corp and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58   lawsuit and the the deaths and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   planning for in the fun that had made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   like 50 times that much of the spot like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04   this is beautiful and so you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06   wonder all these hackers together I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:07   think that wasn't what you really write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:10   our order they just think they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:11   change real so you can never get a bead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13   on whether everybody involved enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:15   society is high on their own supply and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:18   is not you know that they did their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:21   comical or if they really are incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   dangerous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:24   and don't realize the extent of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26   damage there in like almost like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:27   like a kind of like a script kiddie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29   thing to have like you know we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:30   take everybody down with these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:31   likely is that does that philosophy have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:33   any foundation did they really believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:34   it who really believes it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   especially once mr. robot is taken out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   of the picture are folded in that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:39   not even sure that Elliot is on board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   with himself involving it and the sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43   and everyone else has their reasons for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:45   being there but like in the end of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:46   actually gonna end like the the dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48   army are they more serious thats they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50   see more serious especially with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   final episode you know so that tension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   is is hanging over this entire thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56   think so you this episode that episode 6 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2336">TS</a>]

00:39:00   getting back to that the stakes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   smaller but they're clear that these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04   plain old criminals they're thugs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:06   they're bad people they're going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08   bad things you don't have to wonder if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:09   it's going to be the taking down of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   entire credit system or erasing the dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13   or anything like that it is very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:16   but very real concrete steaks and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18   think episode 6 I would never tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20   anyone to start there because i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:21   doesn't go anywhere unless you've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   introduced to show through all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   episodes and met via I I loved his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:28   creepy Underpants introduction thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   all those you know that hold you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:33   you have to care about the people before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:34   episode 6i think I plus 6 is right where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:37   it is this is the very Breaking Bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39   middle section of the series and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:40   suppose you could remove it and continue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   the arc but I didn't and that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   most involved and excited i was i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   around episode 6 and 7 also also I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:50   we haven't talked much about Elliot's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:51   habit but you know obviously he has very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:54   strong feelings for shayla but she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:55   also the supplier for his very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:58   particular needs right and in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:01   like there's that there are steaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:02   beyond his affection to her going away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:04   he's very straightforward than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:05   voice-over is like I gotta decide you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:08   know this guy did you go to jail but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:09   think about my supply like you know his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11   whole he has very sort of not be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:17   premeditated reasons for everything he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   does everyone in his life has a function [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:21   and he weighs the pros and cons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23   makes a call let a sort of it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25   clear-headed narrated weigh it against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:28   similar with the breaking bad type thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   of like him coming around to saying this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   guy's got to go i can make that happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34   only starts off as the the bald-headed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:37   Walter White he doesn't he doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:38   money you know he's there from episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   one right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:41   it seems kind of very reptilian until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43   the course you realize that he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45   even know it and it is going on inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:47   his own head so he's really not he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   really nice clean the house clear-eyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:50   view of the world as he likes to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52   he does now that's one of the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:53   undermining moments in the first episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   as you do you think you've got this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:56   kind of Wired and you you realize all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:59   the various drugs that he's taking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01   this supplier's across the hall and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03   she's got some other drugs that he could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:04   take two and then they have sex and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06   you're like what am I seeing here when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:07   he's got a system like you're like oh no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:10   nothing's worse than a smart drug drug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:13   user with a system because he's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:14   take this amount of stuff with this much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16   stuff make sure he doesn't get addicted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18   you know it doesn't overdose but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:19   all that all falls apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:21   yeah almost immediately to which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:23   yes so um what should we talk about him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:27   and christian slater we've touched on i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:28   really enjoyed his performance in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:30   I'd say it's you know he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32   delightfully gets to be the is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34   slider easiest uh yeah he is so sweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:37   three so Heather's ok it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39   really nice i like that when you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41   know what's going on and he kind of he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   kind of intrude on Elliot and so let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:44   let me explain what's going on and talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:46   about this and cuts tries to stop at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:48   few points and all that it's just really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50   enjoyable I love that he's this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:51   you know guy in a jumpsuit who talks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:55   him on the subway and then get taken to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57   coney island and they're riding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:58   ferris wheel and all that it's all it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   really enjoyable it's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:01   interaction been rather rami malek just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   owns this entire show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05   Slater does a very good job and it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:08   out as we go along but you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:10   two parts of Elliott's personality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:11   talking to each other here which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:13   which makes it that much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:14   fascinating memories of his father and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:16   yeah I planned a fast in fact that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:19   trying to you know unconsciously maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:22   I'm probably psychoanalyzing here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   you know we got coney island we got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   shop we've got this you know this just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:29   the fact that he's trying to obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:30   reconcile something kind of unreconciled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   little with the past and we really see I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:35   feel like I don't know this my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:36   criminology but I think you can see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   played out in so many different ways and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   when is it that we get to the mr. Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:43   yeah number nine oh god that was a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   one I thought that was incredibly moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:48   and number 9 was just was just amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:51   right when he actually we see him with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   his his his actual dad is dad and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:56   the all the ads for was in 1994 yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2576">TS</a>]

00:43:00   like um the previous episode I mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:03   is the moment where we realize be long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:05   we're workin workin for ya so it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   hot so you get you get you get white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   rose who we see and they're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   completely bizarre scene where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:14   you will only see once at the back of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:15   this like hard drive repair shop or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   whatever fascinating that we're why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:22   expected to what we saw when he met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:24   White Rose would be something unexpected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26   but i would not i would not have guessed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:29   BD Wong as a woman as white rose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:33   fascinating and then also the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:36   thing with Darlene Darlene throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:37   this is portrayed as this kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39   strangely forward character like why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:42   she so but when I just watch yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:43   familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:44   yeah well she buddying up to Elliot he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   like it's like get away you know you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:47   just my twitter is no recovery of from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49   Coney Island yeah she's like the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51   menacing him and all of that end in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53   episode 8 we see Darlene and Angela like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:58   at Dance class just talking to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:01   other just friends talking about Elliot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:03   and it's just a great moment like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:04   did I just see what does that mean is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:09   that is going to reveal because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   like the kind of reveal that doesn't hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:12   you over the head it assumes you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   smart enough to know that it's a reveal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:15   there's no big musical cue but it is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17   know and i think that this true of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:20   the things that doesn't doesn't cheat if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:21   you go back and watch the episodes again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   you obviously you can look at them into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:24   the kind of the same success well watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   it again i could anyone knowing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:27   secrets I can see all the stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29   everything works into two ways just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31   that you know like the line is said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:32   we're darling at some point is like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34   do you know where I live and I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:35   know where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:36   yeah why wouldn't you know you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:37   she's a hacker questions relook why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   wouldn't you know it because she's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:40   sister of course she does bring that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:41   works both ways totally valid neither [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43   one is a cheat and but you can go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   and watch it and go oh okay so you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47   to decide which meaning you you at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:50   you know you can go for their and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:51   they're very clever writing not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:54   when you go back and watch it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:55   all fall apart doesn't lay flight still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:58   everything still plays yeah the enemy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00   and the way that the way that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   played the scene between LA and Darlene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:03   you know it is played perfectly of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:07   success celebrating the success of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09   society and and and he leans in and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:13   like it's the moment in the TV show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:14   where you know and she sent him the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:18   signals like she loves him she cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20   about him they are very casually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22   know close together so it's super easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:25   and and so we read into that what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:27   reads into that and that's the end that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:30   if there is a big twist in this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:31   that is the one that that that moment of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:34   like have you forgotten again where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:37   all just blade bear in that moment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:39   we are like Elliot realizing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   everything that we've seen we completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   missed key facts and it's just so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   done that and that and that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:48   loved is the misdirection of having mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:50   robot not really be there and a mutual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   that mutual heartbreak though that's sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:55   as me it does because the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:56   Alzheimer's thing was like no no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58   didn't forget i I really you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00   faking it right segment as fast as he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02   can because he is smart and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:03   that's the best thing about the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   the series you always been the voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07   overs are always sort of AA what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:10   going to say in the scene is what I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:11   to say to get along society but now in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   this voiceover i'll tell you the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   hidden reality behind everything because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:16   i'm a hacker and I packed with people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:18   and I know the truth and out of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:19   guys cheating on this person with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:20   wife and I know that this person like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   this and you know Elliot knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   everything about everybody and nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:25   can hide from his all-seeing hackers I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27   but he doesn't he absolutely doesn't he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:30   doesn't know really important basic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   facts about his own life and what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34   going on it and so that that's the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:37   trap for him because that's why you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   very because of the whole rest of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:40   he was your voice of please voiceover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42   Elliot tell me what's really going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:44   here and that's also like to i rosy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:45   for that reason because Elliot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   totally flustered on the timer and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49   stupid things and does not take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51   advantage of that time in an efficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:52   manner because he's just you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:55   kind of blows it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:56   that's him sort of struggling gasping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:59   for air realizing that there are powers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:00   beyond his control as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02   uh before we move on either a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:05   points that i wanted to i want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:06   out at one of them is tyrell wellick and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:09   his wife Joanne that why she needs her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   own show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:12   yes i would watch it Joanna show she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14   so great that the character like that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:17   humans actually where it's like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:18   that could have been the star of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   show in another version of the show so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   fascinating we meet her she is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:25   we meet her and again subverting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:26   expectation she is the the beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:29   pregnant wife of the hard-charging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:30   executive who's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:31   do you know who is one of the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:33   technical people at a tea Corbin evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35   Corp and very rapidly we see there we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:40   see their sexual practices their bondage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42   practices that so easily and what we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   that they are well yeah we see that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:47   sure but also just their they're kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:49   open collusion about wanting our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:54   yes just like the house of cards kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   vibe where they are exaggerated team and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:59   she is kind of the leader of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:00   meanwhile yes exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:01   she's she's she's the one who's like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:03   you gotta do this you gotta do that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05   speak Swedish to each other which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07   also just another there's just so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:08   little details in there that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   need the details but the details are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   interesting and and suffered sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:15   like what you'd expect if you like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   don't need to give me the details I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:18   make some assumptions about this couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:19   no you cannot yeah and it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:23   slide darth vader and provide because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   Tyrell is so shown to be so macchiavelli [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:28   and doing all these things but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:29   realize the power behind the throne like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   and she like it's like a contest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33   what will Tyrell do to further his aims [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:36   he will do lots of things you don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38   is that going after the receptionist and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:41   you know having sex with them like is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:42   that is something that he actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:43   enjoys or something he's willing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:45   to get ahead you don't even know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:47   will she do with two to make sure to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:49   keep this family together like old into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51   the fork that you wouldn't help possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53   it's like and it's almost like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:56   all one-upping each other but in the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:57   of their interpersonal moments she makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2937">TS</a>]

00:49:00   demands of him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:01   and he kind of cracks under the pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03   and doesn't follow the plan and ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:06   doing something that you probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:07   shouldn't have on the roof of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:08   building yes and/or he's fault he likee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:13   unless he's less able to handle the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:14   strain maybe he's under more pressure as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:16   well because she's at home all day but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:18   you know she's the emperor in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20   situation he's Vader that's how you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:22   I hadn't thought of it this way but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:23   know it's like you know everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:26   colleges that keep johnstone you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:28   probook you know about improv and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30   whole idea of improv being based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:32   status and if you think about it status [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:34   the exchange of status in various ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   is such a huge part of this where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:39   see a whole my gosh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   the guy who ends up firing Tyrell that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43   guy at the CEO I love him I love him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:46   he's as the evil CEO and he's so great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48   he's like Christopher Lee playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50   vincent d'onofrio I just love the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   love his little tix to the way that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54   talks and but like the the way that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:58   status and power get exchanged and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:02   transmogrified throughout the show are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:03   fascinating to me too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:04   we haven't talked at all about Elliot's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06   boss who ends up being a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:07   interesting and sympathetic character he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09   seems like such a buffoon he seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:10   some kind of like you know bill Lumbergh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:13   kind of love you know buffoon at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   point but he's a very sympathetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:16   character in some ways and just the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:19   that like you know from day to day these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:20   power exchanges can change so much and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:23   just the disproportionate you know way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:27   the power gets moved around whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:28   that's Tyrells wife being the one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   obviously running the show or the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:31   that you know something can suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   change in like what that means to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:34   of these characters i thought it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:36   especially as the show progresses in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37   that last night third act i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   very well done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:40   yeah they might have some great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:41   inflation or power inflation issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   because by the end you're in like eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45   wide shut territory and you realize for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47   angela has been suckered into like any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:49   kind of know what this colby shows up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:51   her house so we were super impressed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:52   you and like is the best thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:53   that episode for a second i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:55   everyone watching out of sort of wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:57   to believe wants to believe that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:58   really were impressed by Angela and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   want her to come in for a second you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:01   believe it to be like you know what she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03   was impressive but no but by the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:06   like I don't know you know that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:09   final you know eyes wide shut halls of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:12   whiterose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:12   out of disguise or in disguise depending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   on how they're gonna go with it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   CEO and the whole speech about the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   fund and making it 50 times that amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:21   of money all the way to settle this case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:22   and like you know why are you so calm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:25   you i found that problems like this tend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:28   to crack under the weight of you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   just great super evil speeches but where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:33   do you go from there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:34   I'm really worried about season 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:35   because you've got that next echelon of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:38   power in the eyes wide shot house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   then i'm not sure you can go up any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:41   farther from there and I would almost be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:43   happier if you had someone involved in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45   there so that we could say that what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:47   saw in that final scene was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   unreliable but Elliot wasn't involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   there so i think we have to take all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:52   that is kind of face value and that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:55   kind of is more pros and it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   i'm sorry what scene is that where where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00   the white rose or there's a there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   mansion where all of the evil leaders of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:05   the world the Illuminati mean that guy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:08   basing house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:08   yeah and that's where that's where white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:11   rose and the CEO of of evil Corp have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:15   drink like a black bolt and tired and by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:18   the way evil evil corporate sand runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:19   logos and that is my dream it up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:22   Ron's ya like a sister to my other ankle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24   i wanted to mention a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:25   characters in the chatroom we they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:28   mentioned and I think this is absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:29   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:30   in some ways that the person you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:31   feel sorry for all this is a is gideon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:34   goddard who's the CEO of all safe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36   who is you-know-who seems like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:38   perfectly nice guy and you know it flies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40   lay down on the jet and he's you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:43   meet we meet his husband and and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:45   there they're very nice and all that end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:48   oh my god his business is completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50   destroyed it's on it and somebody it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:52   seems pretty resilient i thought you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:53   a business after the first disaster but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   it still hangs on like the thing is he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   not played as a dummy you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:00   smart he's investigating server cs30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02   like he's so close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:03   he's really close he just doesn't he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05   not willing to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07   he's too nice of a person to go the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:08   step to realize first always but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10   also he's also that guy where like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:13   becomes increasingly sympathetic because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:15   he's the business guy like maybe he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   knows the business of we know of the of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19   what people are doing a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:20   obviously he's a smart cookie but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:23   he also has to maintain their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:24   relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:25   and the appearances and that scene where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:28   his the CFO is meeting with him is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:32   so brutal you know where he's obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34   got this cognitive dissonance of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:35   thinking like it's okay we can still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:36   love you pull this out it's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   be okay with that was awful so hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   watch it so clearly too nice to Succeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:43   in Business in the world of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:44   television show because everyone else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:46   getting ahead is not as concerned about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:49   other people as he is and you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   yeah we should diversify shouldn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   radio presenter his business going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55   able courthouses biggest things together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57   you get something like you to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59   shakin you should consult John he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   couldn't say no to evil Corp and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03   got into deep and the other character i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05   want to mention it is glory rubens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07   character the psychiatrist just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:08   I feel I feel like early on in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10   season she's used really interestingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:12   and you know Elliot is is checking up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14   her boyfriend and revealing him to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   fraud and all this stuff and we see her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18   in one scene at the end I feel like her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20   character is a little bit strange in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:21   sense that we need to have her to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   that Elliot is sort of like under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   treatment but I don't know I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:29   she kind of didn't get used enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31   no she's she becomes the cipher in a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:34   of ways there wasn't enough room to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   have her be more than what she not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:37   enough room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:38   I know that's right at all well I better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:39   think the show is smart and keeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41   people in reserve like various still out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:44   yes I and she's still I think she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46   important to have maybe not again maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:47   not the sopranos where she's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   like a thread through the entire thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51   but it's an eye I really love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:52   actress and I i love her character you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:55   know shouldn't have much to go on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:56   see that she is a human person she does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:59   mean well she does have her own quirks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:02   and she's trying to do the right thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04   but she is not succeeding because she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:06   doesn't have all the information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:07   yeah I feel like season to think clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:10   Elliott needs psychological help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   right so perhaps we'll see that someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   and she's and she's not she's good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:17   her job like she's trying to get through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:19   to it she's trying to get but just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:21   know it's going to be it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23   difficult and it's interesting that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:26   had you know this is another problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:27   that she has like kind of an adversarial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:30   relationship but also that you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:31   they can get subtracted Sopranos a plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:34   line with the hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36   dr. Melfi and and what happens to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:40   and what time's your browser does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   doesn't do about it in the same you this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44   is all small stakes version of that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:47   Elliot interfering in her life in ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:49   that she doesn't appreciate but does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:51   appreciate but how she's gonna deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:53   that not a lot of it and this season but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:55   that is a place that is well you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57   back to in season 2 to enrich both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:59   the characters and I think that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:01   thread in that relationship will also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:03   have an archive will have to end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:04   somewhere probably badly for most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06   but she also has an important i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:07   she has an important role in this season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:10   even if she is kind of a cipher which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12   that you know this show is to a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14   extent about the walls that we put up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:18   about things and the ways that we decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   like who's in charge or that we decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   you know for that matter like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24   what constitutes the money and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:25   credit that we have and like all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:26   these paper walls to constitute our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   society and I think in a kind of more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:32   picturesque way she represents like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:35   the bulwark against madness right in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37   some ways like she's the one she's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:38   one who's gonna help Elliot is obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   this very troubled guy she obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:41   cares about him but feels a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:42   responsibility to make sure he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:44   you screw up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:45   she's got to be something like a parent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:47   in some ways but also a professional and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:49   when he does the big reveal of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:51   everything he knows about her and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:52   kind of porn she's been looking at like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54   it's just it's just yet another one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:55   these paper walls being torn down and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:58   think she does a really great job at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3418">TS</a>]

00:56:59   characterizing what that would feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01   you know to to be like one of those big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:04   heads on a screen and Big Brother and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:05   suddenly be brought right back down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:08   human or subhuman sighs and feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:10   incredibly vulnerable which is all she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:11   actually keep your chin up through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   like she manages to choose not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15   let it bring her all the way down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:17   she's going to maintain her composure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19   and at the best degree possible in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21   situation but I mean but she is but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:24   all of these systems now she is shown to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26   be even as she is a source of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:29   gosh stuff like medications stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31   deciding like what you can sign off on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:32   in terms of what Elliot no can do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:35   know she is she represents you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37   system in that way and when she is shown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39   to be that vulnerable it's I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:42   an echo of the same kind of thing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:43   happening with showing that these big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   systems that protect our money in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:46   credit now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:47   are you know society and law are are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:49   just as vulnerable and I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   was well done and i would love to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:52   her used again and more in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:54   because i love that actress what I seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:56   her on what else you are not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:59   i'm talking about a little technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:00   stuff that's just a few things are so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:03   the first episode was just kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:04   shame they get I think the worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:06   technical seen out there were Tyrell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08   talk to Elliot OIC you're running KDE [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10   run know myself that's a comprehension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:12   that would never take place between two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14   people who know anything about computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:15   never took place between one person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   doesn't know one person who does elliot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   with think terrorists why would that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   never happen because that's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23   not the type of thing it's it's like two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25   cargo is going all I see you have black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   wheels on your car might have treads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:28   years I'm friends now you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:30   Michelin's i have like it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:32   not at the level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:33   hi Katie vs no yeah those are your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:36   things but two people to people who know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:40   a lot about cars are going to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:42   something like if you're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:44   impress somebody like was Elvis's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:47   see mr McLeod Tyrell is trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:48   impress Elliot with his knowledge to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:50   show that hey I'm I'm like you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:53   wouldn't go for something that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   like basic and boring you would try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:58   find something obscure but the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00   is that seemed to someplace to go for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:01   something obscure because the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03   knows doesn't know anything about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:04   so they have to do what they did which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06   don't think really works for people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:08   don't know but it just sounds like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:09   generation for people who do know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:10   like neither one would be impressed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12   this exchange and it's silly and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:14   embarrassing it's kind of creatures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16   doesn't matter power through it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:17   you know you shouldn't be listening this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:18   anyway they haven't seen the series but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:20   i think it's this fine everything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22   they do they try to keep a distance from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:24   which is a good idea like in broad terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:27   they want to say haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:30   although they have Christmas later so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:31   mall where instead of malware which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33   really bothered me anyway it's only get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:36   someone in there to tell me how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38   pronounce words but they basically say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:39   is there a raspberry pi to take over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:42   league they heard of raspberries high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:44   they notice it and you know they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:45   it's funny every weekend with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:48   blinkers went off a little bit on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:49   whole like hvac thing like someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51   something that felt a little bit like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   stretch without stretching on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:54   yeah well I made all of it is a stretch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:56   all the stretch that they could they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:57   could plan this but like they don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   could plan this but like they don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   stay far enough away they say this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   our plan in broad strokes raise the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:04   thermostat damage the tapes that already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:06   is kind of problem most fantastical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:08   because talk about a slow-moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:09   disaster that can be averted that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:10   totally one of the right but can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:13   know what as you know internet as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:16   thermostat type stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:18   internet-connected things become real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:19   like that's a real thing like microsoft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:20   campus has all computer-controlled thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22   controlling the the temperature of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24   the buildings and once you become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:25   network connect you can get hacked they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:27   stay just far enough away to say it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29   possible that you can get into this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:31   like the hospital IT department the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:33   silly guy and everything running windows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35   98 dad that's you know I mean like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37   everything they do could be done and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:40   you're supposedly these people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:41   amazingly talented and you don't see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:43   much time they invest it could be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:44   well I guess the times that we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:45   say they were working on this for weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:46   doing all this research or whatever so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:49   think it all hangs together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:51   I'm just glad that they don't feel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   need to have long drawn-out scenes where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55   they have a bunch of proper announcer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57   computers that the character spirit each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:58   other because they don't they just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3658">TS</a>]

01:00:59   did you take over the thing with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01   thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:01   yeah I did the thing with the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:02   alright fine good that's you know plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04   is moving forward now don't need to try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   to impress the audience with the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:09   technical skills but little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:11   cringe-inducing it especially early i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:12   think as the show gets going you notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:15   it less and they talk about a lesson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:16   that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:17   alright let's move on to humans which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:22   about robots a show about robots not mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24   roboto about humans is it to show by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:26   robots is a i-don't-know-what with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:28   Nathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30   channel 4 in the UK which we we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:35   here at the comfortable officially that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:36   would be bc general door and on AMC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:41   based on a Swedish series called real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:44   humans which i haven't seen by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46   swedish so tyrell wellick and his wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48   can watch it and understand it eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:52   episodes I the science fictional premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:55   it is a world very much like today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   except that there are robots that look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3717">TS</a>]

01:02:00   like humans but are artificially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:01   intelligent creatures that are used as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:04   servants and healthcare workers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:07   various other things throughout the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:08   world and we meet a family who is uh who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:12   has just taken the husband basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:14   goes and buys a synth as they're called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:17   to work for their family and and cook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:19   and clean and take care of their kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:20   and things like that it brings it home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22   and there's some tension with the wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:23   the wife has been traveling on business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:25   trips and he's frustrated that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:27   doesn't have help around the house so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:29   goes and buys a refurb it turns out sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:32   and quite seriously refurbished and uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:36   thatthat's a the story of the story of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:40   humans is is a question about who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:43   these sense and are are some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:46   perhaps becoming sentient and what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48   that mean for this worker class or slave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:51   class that has been created the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53   now rely on and all with English accent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55   except for William Hurt who is professor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:58   hobby he does not something please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00   William Hurt because he's williamsburg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:01   so I I i really like humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:05   I didn't like it as much as mr. but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07   really liked it and one of the things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:08   liked about it is that it felt very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:10   like a classic science fiction novel to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:11   me it felt like what if what if we live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:14   in a world where we had these things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:16   they took care of us and then it turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:18   out that they were that they were sent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:19   in or they became sentient and and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:21   they're a slave class and what does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:23   mean and do we hunt them do we kill them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:25   do we give them their their freedom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:27   what does it all mean and what are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:28   societal impacts on having having these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30   human form servants around even if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:32   are becoming sent here what it what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34   the societal impacts and and as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:36   watched I felt like over the eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:38   episodes that it really did a good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:39   of sort of exploring all those things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:41   a classic science fiction now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:43   all kind of way and that so I i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:46   that plus i got to recognize like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:47   everybody from what doctor who episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:49   they were in a kinder gentler way I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:52   like this show is a very gentle maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:54   you know I don't watch enough TV to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:56   if this is part of the thing but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:58   it's the people under nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:00   it's not like gritty and and gory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:03   you know like right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05   it felt very gentle felt like a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:06   gentle sci-fi where they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:09   take their time with the premise they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:10   gonna have people give each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:12   meaningful looks and have discussions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:14   about things and dramatic things will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:16   happen but it's not overblown and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:18   felt it was you know it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:20   relaxing and it was interesting and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:22   the kind of show that I don't think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:24   get much around here because we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:25   sci-fi around here it has to be like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:28   know aliens and spaceships and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:31   Stargate or whatever and this was much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:33   more of a lb relax British paste human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:37   drama that just happened to involve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:39   robots and in the same way that that mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:42   robot doesn't spend a lot of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:44   delving into the details we don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:46   care about the details of of the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:48   that much we care about the family that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:50   hasn't yet we eventually care about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:52   sense that that have you know family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:53   have gained have gained consciousness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:56   ah and everything else like you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:59   even the whole like anti-synth movement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:02   that's there in the background and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:03   a threat or whatever but that's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:05   the show is about this is another like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:06   mr. robot it is a character drama where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:09   it did it hinges entirely on you care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:12   about the characters in this very small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:13   story in the grand scheme of things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15   that's the end as i mentioned it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:17   two families and that becomes very clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19   in the last episode I guess we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:22   fire off another spoiler horn pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24   soon because there are some more details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26   here but but suffice it to say I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:29   know I think it's worth again watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:30   episode 1 of humans and seeing what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:32   get out of it is gentle and I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:34   about it john you know it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:36   there aren't kind of like good guys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:38   bad guys and people who behave badly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40   i know i actually asked myself at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42   several points while I was watching it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:43   is am I really watching a story that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:45   about a robot uprising was gonna kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47   all the humans off because it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:48   feel like that it could be that but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:50   doesn't feel like that it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:52   again like this is a more thoughtful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54   story about what does it mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56   I mean you know again what does it mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:58   that the sensor there in at all what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3958">TS</a>]

01:06:00   does it mean for the the relationship of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:02   the end of the husband and wife in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:05   family because it is driving them apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:08   or are they drifting apart anyway what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:11   does it mean for their relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:12   with their children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:13   what is the children's relationship with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:15   the synth and and is it real or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:18   all of that is in there what does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:19   mean for society at large and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:21   throw in this other aspect which is 0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:23   and William Hurt story right which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:24   very sad very sad and and sweet sweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:28   it's a bittersweet story about a man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:29   who's lost his wife and he had a stroke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:31   and the only memories he has really of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:34   his wife are the ones that his old synth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:36   has of his dead wife that's that's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:39   favorite thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:40   it's just so beautiful so it's not about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:42   like it could be about a robot uprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:43   but it's not really i just want to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:46   one more thing before the horn which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:48   that I also like the fact i mean i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:51   make this sound like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:52   masterpiece theater or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:54   it's it's a little slow not slow it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4014">TS</a>]

01:07:00   not very quick paced at first all I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:03   say is this if you like the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:04   episode or two I want to say just stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:07   with it because yeah maybe in probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:10   quickly the story really picks up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:13   no no I would say I'm I don't say this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:15   about every show every show maybe should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:16   be like this but it's not true of every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:18   show every episode is better up until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:21   maybe the last episode episode is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:24   frustrating but that's ok and the rear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:28   so there's there's one episode i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:29   it's episode 6 is the one that left me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:32   in tears twice but i will say stick with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:35   it because it is it's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:37   world-building storytelling and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:39   but you know if you enjoy it it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:41   an enjoyable show to watch just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:42   it's beautifully done it looks great but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44   i would just say like don't worry like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:46   there's a lot more story to come in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:48   story really picks up but its a spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:50   but like a lot happens in one episode it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:53   which is I think very rewarding and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:56   you end up liking the first couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:57   episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:58   don't worry it's not all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:00   glacial it does it does pickup and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:04   of story happens and a lot of action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:05   happens so my only ambition before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:07   horn is like you know if you like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:09   stick with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:10   yeah what the the thing that struck me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:12   when I first heard about it it reminded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:14   me of Ray Bradbury's i sing the body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:17   electric which was originally a Twilight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:20   Zone script that he wrote and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:22   turned it into a short story and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:24   it's a similar concept it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:26   children who get a written android [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:29   grandmother who takes care of them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:32   it's a very similar setup but this is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:35   much better and much more well thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:38   out about what that kind of society [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:40   would involve so if if you like that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:44   which is not a great twilight zone or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:46   you like the story this is a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:49   version of that kind of story now maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:53   that's what i was thinking of about my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:54   classic sci-fi feel like it doesn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:56   like an old story but it does feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:58   it's doing what kind of we think of as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:01   classic sci-fi does in its in in what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:03   it's exploring and right it's um it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05   thank you i instead of you know guns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:08   going off and ships and and robots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:10   weight has been lots but what I like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:13   had a story where you know it's too kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:15   of like a parallel universe where like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:18   pretty much everything is the same mix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:20   for this one thing and that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:21   consequently got smart phones they yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23   they got you with no likes gathers no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:25   rocket cars or anything they're driving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:27   SUVs or minivans but yes stick with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:30   that's the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:31   alright let's fire off a spoiler on for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:33   humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:38   so soft physically pull them again man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:43   god that's so obviously an actual woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45   is not a robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:47   god I i wanted to mention to so family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:51   by the end it's very clear that we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:53   watching two families there's a will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:55   there's a sense family and human family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:56   and the end there those wonderful we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:58   watching and kind of watching for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:00   families [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:00   well yeah I mean defendant at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:02   you get the two families in the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:03   together basically determining the fate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05   of the world which i kinda like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:06   there's the that all the sensor together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:08   who are the children of the creator of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:10   the intelligence sense and you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:12   the the the Hawkins family and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:15   all together and they've sort of got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:17   this uneasy kind of thing and I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:18   like that that you know these are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:20   brothers and sisters these children of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:24   of of the original creator that is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:28   David Elster right I'll i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:30   that including including his son who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:32   sort of part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:33   synth part human which is also pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:35   cool i I just I really liked all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:38   there is a big twist in this which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:39   that there's a police detective who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:41   actually like beef [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:43   it's like a missing Cylon from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:44   battlestar galactica yeah I love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:46   reveal of all the ways to reveal that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:48   the way home my god that was so doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:50   who when she pulls out the wine balloon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:52   yeah I'm like hidin it was so freaky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:55   she's drunk wine and you think well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:57   she's got to be human because she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4257">TS</a>]

01:10:58   drinking wine with her partner I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4258">TS</a>]

01:10:59   like you gotta be him as a price that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:01   every time she was on camera they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4261">TS</a>]

01:11:03   the makeup people to put that scar on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:05   her neck right and so it's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:07   she wouldn't have a scarf she was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:09   Cylon a replicant whatever you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:11   do with into things at the end up end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:13   a long day trying to get a bag with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:16   the food that she's pretended to eat and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:18   drink and then she plugs in crazy stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:22   crazy stuff so I love the daughter in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24   this i love Maddie Maddie in this shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:27   again let this what i was saying earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:28   she could be the star of the show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:30   she's not but she's great and she's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:33   like she's gonna figure out what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:35   on with the sin that they got which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:37   know the the teenage son wants to touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4297">TS</a>]

01:11:39   your boobs and the father turns on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:40   downloadable content to enable sex mode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:43   and she just wants to like the hacker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:47   she wants to like and she's like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:49   stressed about the future of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:50   is like what's the point study [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:51   because the synthesis going to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:52   to be a surgeon in 10 minutes like she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:54   ahead of she's like the the heavyset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:57   pimply kid from fear the walking dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:59   she's ahead of everyone else on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:00   realizing guys don't you realize what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:02   this means if we continue down this path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:03   with these since I it's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4323">TS</a>]

01:12:05   problem is maybe not for the parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:07   generation they just see it as like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:08   it's helpful thing for you to have in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:10   the house or you know it's a sex toy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:11   whatever but she sees this is the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:13   humanity and you guys are just happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:15   about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:16   yeah yeah well I like the that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:18   question of is this is that the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:21   humanity or night there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:23   knee-jerk reactions in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:24   you've got the kind of worried about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:25   but i kinda like that like you know do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:27   it here are we looking at well they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:30   going to replace us and they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:31   better than us or is it more like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:33   know we've created new a new slave class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4353">TS</a>]

01:12:35   and we have to deal with the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:39   they're actually alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:41   well yeah and like not to jump to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:42   giant picture but you know it's me know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:45   when you get into the the whole like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:47   what automation writ large does for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4367">TS</a>]

01:12:50   it ends up getting to some interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:53   things and and I think that's where this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:55   cuts to the chase fairly quickly even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:57   it is a little bit slow paced which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:59   first of all like what we think like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:00   know work in some ways gives us meaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:01   like the things that we do the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:03   we spend our day really matters the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:05   that we care for our children like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:07   with foods we prepare for our kids like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:09   that's that's a big part of who we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:10   and I has played out with I'm sorry I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:14   remember the woman's name the the wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:16   like it's I think she is she's so great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:19   at portraying that not just the guilt of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21   like being the working mom is a lawyer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:23   which is that whole sense of like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:25   know what if somebody can do this better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:26   than I am better but you know better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:28   than i can do it like that that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:29   horrifying prospect the idea that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:31   could buy an appliance that would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4411">TS</a>]

01:13:33   better parent than you or our index you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:35   could you could you could buy a robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:37   that would be a better employee than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:38   it isn't just a matter of feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:40   frustrated that you maybe don't make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:41   same wage it's a matter of going like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:43   well then what is it that makes us human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:45   what is it that makes life worth doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:46   if there are appliances that can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:48   better than your daughter demands that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:50   that that the robot read the story to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:53   her instead so female of like our kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4433">TS</a>]

01:13:55   male of our ipads more than us but we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:57   not threatened by the ipads because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:58   they're not close enough to the uncanny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4438">TS</a>]

01:14:00   value right he's like well they may love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:02   television more than us but it's fine on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:04   the mom because once you make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:04   television shaped like a mom then it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:06   problem then you like alright TV that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:09   an this is too close for comfort I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:11   the best one is the the wife of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:13   detective like that's the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:15   questions than it answers is like she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:17   unhappy there in their marriage she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4457">TS</a>]

01:14:18   unhappy in their marriage whatever is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:21   sufficient for people to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:24   attentive uh attractive male sex pot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:30   that listens to their stories and gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:31   them nice massage and prepare some nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:33   meals as long as it that that sexpot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4473">TS</a>]

01:14:36   doesn't malfunction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:37   she was probably pretty much okay with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:39   it like that she chose that over her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:41   husband because that robot was giving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:44   her the attention that her husband was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:45   not it was entirely dedicated to her it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:48   was nice it was thoughtful carried her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:50   from room to room when she was injured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:51   it made her meals it gave her the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:54   massages and again for the second she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:55   wanted and right up until the point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:57   she installed the modifications and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4497">TS</a>]

01:14:59   malfunction she was okay with that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:00   that's the other uncomfortable thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:02   thats is asking is not like in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4502">TS</a>]

01:15:05   replace us with all in our children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:07   whatever but like is there are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:09   better than humans and always because no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:11   human like the roads don't have their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:13   own needs these the non-conscious ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:15   they entirely exist to serve your needs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:17   and if they can do so in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:19   makes you think that there's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:20   another human there who is really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4520">TS</a>]

01:15:22   into you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:23   how many people are okay with that but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:25   I don't think they're gonna get into X i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:27   think the the the the entire show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:29   leading like if i take the show as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:31   shown in this season one the obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:34   conclusion is that all the humans will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:35   destroy all these robots it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:37   available all ultimate form of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:38   self-absorption where you know if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:41   like say like an introverted person with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:43   lots of needs like you'd be perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:45   happy to have a whole bunch of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:47   replaced by automation whether that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49   uber or instant card or whatever it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:51   that you want there's a whole way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:52   create this world full of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:55   will serve you and will open up your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:57   time and attention in ways that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4557">TS</a>]

01:15:58   never could have before that hates great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:01   the roof the rest of the world becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4561">TS</a>]

01:16:02   an automaton the rest of the world loses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:04   their jobs but i think this gets at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:06   those like well what does that mean to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:07   me like what if nobody needs me anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:09   that's that's that's what i thought this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:11   drove home is yes yes there certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:13   think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:13   huge issue of like what if these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:15   are more than just you know machines but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4575">TS</a>]

01:16:18   i also love that idea of like when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:19   feel threatened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4579">TS</a>]

01:16:21   not just in terms of like you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:22   story people always want to tell on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:24   planet money is like what happens when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:25   robots make our t-shirts but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4585">TS</a>]

01:16:27   something deeper to that which is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:28   what if like the whole reason that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:30   think I'm valuable to the world is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4590">TS</a>]

01:16:32   suddenly much more economically and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:34   efficiently replaced by this machine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:37   I thought they did that very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:38   you have a device I feel like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:40   leading to like I think in season 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4600">TS</a>]

01:16:42   they're gonna have to come up with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:43   kind of conflict is right now it's clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:45   that people don't like these machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:47   like that the angry people want to smash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:50   all these things and the only thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:52   going to stop them from smashing them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:53   are either other humans which I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:55   think is going to happen or the robots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:57   themselves and so far the rods that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4617">TS</a>]

01:16:59   Miss cos they're only help really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:00   so far the roads themselves seem too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:02   passive and they're basically going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:04   get smashed up because these are not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:06   robots from the matrix this is not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:09   know the skynet that becomes conscious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:11   in 20 milliseconds later decides it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:13   needs to wipe out humanity these uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:15   these robots these since our conscious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:19   and also have a conscience and that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:22   be their downfall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:23   if they don't get their acts together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4643">TS</a>]

01:17:24   because it's so clear that the humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:26   are conscious and there's enough of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4646">TS</a>]

01:17:28   who are mad for so many reasons taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:30   our jobs replacing us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:32   I don't like that you know like Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:34   said replacing me in ways that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:36   want to be replaced and humans are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:37   really good at smashing things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:38   don't like if there's an added you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:40   will kill all the Wolves will cut down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:42   all the trees will pave paradise and put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:45   in the parking lot and these these since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:47   our doom so I don't know how they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:49   gonna resolve that because it's so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:50   mean again miss code being their only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:52   hope is there one sent that finally gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:53   a clue and says we need to go to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:56   planet or destroy all humans or are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:58   going to have this sort of touchy-feely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4678">TS</a>]

01:17:59   we need to figure out how to get along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:01   with each other and I can you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:03   imagine can anyone imagine a planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:05   where humans and since existed reproduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4685">TS</a>]

01:18:08   it similar rates and exist alongside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:09   each other intermixed in society I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:12   world set up by the show does not seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4692">TS</a>]

01:18:14   like it is open to that possibility if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:16   the sensor conscious they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:18   conscious seems like everyone's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:19   okay with it is uneasy balance but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:21   soon as the conscious that develops have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:22   to be destroyed now the sense the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:24   have all kinds of basically like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4704">TS</a>]

01:18:27   governor's like know how you run a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:28   u-haul van and we'll let you drive over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:30   60 miles an hour right you can push the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4710">TS</a>]

01:18:32   accelerator accelerator down like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4712">TS</a>]

01:18:34   these sense have these basic governor's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:36   that prevent them from doing the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4716">TS</a>]

01:18:37   that greater if we let the since do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:39   everything they could do like that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:41   whole different world now we've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:42   world where it's all based on what since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:43   10 so you're wondering it's like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:45   that would be something where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4725">TS</a>]

01:18:47   some kind of show down like a meeting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:48   this person's vs humans come like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:50   would he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:51   why would how can they coexist because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:53   like the sense are better at everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:55   and don't have all the same problems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:58   can be presumably repaired and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:00   consciousness can be transferred it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:01   like what is the role of humans on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:03   planet with with since they're there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:06   not and so and but the humans will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:08   super pissed about that right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:10   this inherent conflict like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:11   like well we'll go about our lives and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:13   fifty percent of the people in the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4753">TS</a>]

01:19:15   or sense and fifty percent aren't and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:17   you know like even just have to come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:20   an agreement about birth rates how since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:22   how many nuisance are you allowed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4762">TS</a>]

01:19:24   created what rate and who's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:26   decide on that and is a democracy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:28   like I I don't see how i think the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:31   is going on a much smaller level even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:32   though wants to go into the hole that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:34   the larger level the small level is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:36   what's more interesting but I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:37   inevitably this show has to end by all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:40   with all since being destroyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:41   I don't know i mean i-i so going to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:43   last episode III felt like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:45   going to a place where they were going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:46   to have I was expecting kind of a bold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:48   final episode where they decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:50   basically will light up all the sense in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:53   the world and give them all the code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:55   that we have been into Center and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:56   it says that is the only one strategy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:58   niska's got it not only turn them all to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4798">TS</a>]

01:20:00   sending beans but give them all a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:02   mission which is killing every human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:04   life can be selfish yes right which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:06   why I love disco i love i love this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:09   I love that you know when she's killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:11   the people who were trying to kill the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:13   sense to train with the essence out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:15   and then she learns how to to play with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:17   the little with little Sophie at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:20   that was really hilarious and strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4820">TS</a>]

01:20:22   and creepy but I yeah I expected that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4822">TS</a>]

01:20:25   into what I felt like the eight-episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:28   I felt like softened what it was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:30   to do almost like it was well aware that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:32   it needed to play things out for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:34   long game and I felt there had been so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:35   much dramatic tension leading up to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:37   moment where they were going to decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:39   what to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:39   you and then in episode 8 the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:41   like back off at like no no not yet it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:43   just wanted everyone has their separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:45   agendas the the failed mommy body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:47   cooperates enough to have the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4847">TS</a>]

01:20:50   final thing and then miska you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4850">TS</a>]

01:20:51   going to do this thing that she does and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:53   goes her separate way kind of like she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4853">TS</a>]

01:20:54   did the middle of the season as well but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:57   since you did it before it's like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4857">TS</a>]

01:20:59   just they just put things on pause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:00   because they know that during the season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:02   like the end of the show i think is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:05   either you know the realized again is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4865">TS</a>]

01:21:07   all since you destroyed and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:09   uplifting and is all the sensor allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:11   to become conscious but they never show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:12   you what happens after that they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4872">TS</a>]

01:21:14   and it goes out and all since become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:16   conscious and then we fade to black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:17   yeah yeah which is how I wanted to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:19   one day and was you know they make all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4879">TS</a>]

01:21:22   of them sent the end you know they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:24   have a budget for the dole out since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4884">TS</a>]

01:21:26   human war like this one is not sure what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4886">TS</a>]

01:21:28   kind of budget doesn't it doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:29   the right actors for well they just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:31   a month a montage of a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4891">TS</a>]

01:21:32   very nice English people who are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:35   nannies killing kids in like well i'm at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:39   the bottom takes care of William Hurt is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4899">TS</a>]

01:21:41   already a wrecking machine makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:43   that someone needs to return that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4903">TS</a>]

01:21:45   because it does not have a good bedside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4905">TS</a>]

01:21:46   know but it's someone named the era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:49   that's the National Health Service body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:51   I I can't help but feel that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4911">TS</a>]

01:21:53   some British come very British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:55   commentary on the bureaucracy of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57   National Health that right we're missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59   there was more and also commentary on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:02   like the removing the humanity from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:04   people who need care they're damn good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4924">TS</a>]

01:22:06   note that he's no longer the product is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4926">TS</a>]

01:22:08   not the primary user that the system is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:09   the primary user have I think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:12   um I know we don't have a lot of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:13   but I mean I and this is another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:15   where I kind of grabbed me in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4935">TS</a>]

01:22:17   episode I think they did a really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4937">TS</a>]

01:22:18   job of world-building very quickly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:22   this one and I you know gosh i just i od [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:26   was like a big it was a hook for me like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:28   I'm sentimental eminent you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:30   kind of guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:30   there's just something so great to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:32   about this idea that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:34   introducing this idea that you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:37   it's not like robots are disliked we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:40   the one point when everything's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:41   be perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:42   no nope it's like there's all kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:44   problems and i just i love that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:46   whole arc of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:47   you know the way that professor hobby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4967">TS</a>]

01:22:50   what's-his-name dr. that's an AI was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:53   here in this William Hurt is worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4973">TS</a>]

01:22:54   there's something so pointed to me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4974">TS</a>]

01:22:57   this idea of you know it's kind of corny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4977">TS</a>]

01:22:59   but the idea of this guy who's had was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:01   stroke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:02   yeah he had a stroke so real so he's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:04   he's lost his memories OD is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:07   outboard brain for certain memories but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:10   is unreliable they're both but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:11   there's something so obvious but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:13   beautiful to me about the relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:15   between these two broken machines but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:16   the body picture of the brokencyde I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:19   mean like there's something very point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/4999">TS</a>]

01:23:21   two minutes if you ever had anybody in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:22   your family with Alzheimer's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:23   the heartbreak of the like one day out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5003">TS</a>]

01:23:26   of 90 when they suddenly remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:28   something extremely specific but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:31   think there's lots of ways that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5011">TS</a>]

01:23:32   get yeah it's a little mawkish but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:34   think they got it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:35   I think they really did and that for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:36   was a big emotional hook I mean I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:38   the whole thing of the busy family and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:40   the slightly tuned out dumb day I god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:42   what a passive aggressive move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5022">TS</a>]

01:23:43   how could you go out and like buy a hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:45   robot and bring out why don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:47   don't more understanding wife on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:49   planet was like oh I suppose I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:52   like are you kidding me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:53   well they end up giving her like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5033">TS</a>]

01:23:55   like you have to supposedly has a guilt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:57   her guilty secret is that was not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5037">TS</a>]

01:24:00   dream that was not as guilty of a seat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:02   is expected they try very hard to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5042">TS</a>]

01:24:04   to to give the reasons why he did does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:09   this and she doesn't react differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:11   to it is very understanding yes you will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5051">TS</a>]

01:24:13   they get they give her the gift for her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:14   see dark secrets and they also you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:16   they make her seem really bad at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5056">TS</a>]

01:24:18   beginning was like you said you'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:19   gone for two days and you work on for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:20   five days and almost like you exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:22   but her dark chocolate chip tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:24   call but she did she tried but like her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:27   dark secret I mean the dark secret seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:29   to be that she was out of town you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:32   to find some mean bone but the real dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:34   secret is like she's misunderstood she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:37   was that she was you know she was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5077">TS</a>]

01:24:38   an emotionally difficult thing that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5078">TS</a>]

01:24:40   wasn't ready to tell her husband about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5080">TS</a>]

01:24:42   which seems weird that like really I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:43   don't understand how you wouldn't ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:45   that while you but whatever like she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:47   very sympathetic and he is kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5087">TS</a>]

01:24:49   doof CEO kind of yes but i but I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5089">TS</a>]

01:24:53   know I guess maybe like I say maybe I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5093">TS</a>]

01:24:54   just mawkish and sentimental as a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:56   but the whole thing of him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5096">TS</a>]

01:24:58   wanting to keep Cody and like try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5098">TS</a>]

01:25:00   repair him and can get like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5100">TS</a>]

01:25:02   resonated with me like we've all we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:04   all had I mean like gosh I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:05   iphones I wanted to keep longer than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:07   then then worked but like it's also just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:09   very emblematic of like the fragility of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:11   memory and the way that like in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:14   case that the two of them together like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5114">TS</a>]

01:25:15   almost make a person with a memory and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5115">TS</a>]

01:25:19   thought that was that was very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:20   moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:21   I like the fact that he also was not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:23   addled that he thinks OD is like like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:26   the people like no I need my reputation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:28   to myself my senses my friend he knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:31   already is just a machine and I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5131">TS</a>]

01:25:33   very good machine and partly broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:35   machine like this he helped create them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:37   he understands exactly what he is told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:39   under no illusions that already has his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5139">TS</a>]

01:25:40   friend but he befriends OD in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5140">TS</a>]

01:25:43   way that like you know that uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:44   what's-his-name befriends Wilson on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5144">TS</a>]

01:25:47   island and cast away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:49   right on thanks know right everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:51   never goes full Wilson where he thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5151">TS</a>]

01:25:53   you know he never thinks about me as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5153">TS</a>]

01:25:55   person and he just understands that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5155">TS</a>]

01:25:57   you know against his outboard memory is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5157">TS</a>]

01:25:59   his only connection to his dead wife he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:02   repairs him as best he can he talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:04   him the way you might talk to a pet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5164">TS</a>]

01:26:06   where you know that doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5166">TS</a>]

01:26:07   understand you but you have long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5167">TS</a>]

01:26:08   complicated conversations about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:10   dead wife with your dog your dog looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:12   at you and tilts his head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:13   it's fine like it already is not even as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5173">TS</a>]

01:26:15   smart as your dog right but he did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5175">TS</a>]

01:26:17   know it like you said it's like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:19   it's like the pair of jeans that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:20   know it but plus the involving memory so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5180">TS</a>]

01:26:23   I like the fact that they get into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5183">TS</a>]

01:26:25   adventures again together he he should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5185">TS</a>]

01:26:27   have a helper bot that is more competent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:29   he shouldn't be out driving in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5189">TS</a>]

01:26:31   or letting his sister is broken since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:34   drive the car and then felt like he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:37   these are all very young you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:38   he's not making wise choices but he's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:40   old guy and this is all he's got he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5200">TS</a>]

01:26:42   wants to go out for a drive in the car [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5202">TS</a>]

01:26:44   and ends the way you expected to end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:46   that just makes them all the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:47   sympathetic but i like the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5207">TS</a>]

01:26:48   it's not like he is the same man insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:51   world and the health services bodice is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:54   trying to keep him down know he really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5214">TS</a>]

01:26:56   does need help at home he really does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5216">TS</a>]

01:26:59   also just want to put a vote in for max [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:01   III i love that actor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5221">TS</a>]

01:27:04   yeah he like Josh was just I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:07   maybe just he's such a handsome man with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5227">TS</a>]

01:27:08   such an expressive face but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:11   tumi him as the face of the empathetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5231">TS</a>]

01:27:13   you know robot people because they move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:15   a certain way with a certain lack of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5235">TS</a>]

01:27:17   fact but max is so just naturally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5237">TS</a>]

01:27:19   lovable and like I he's another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:21   where you know it's my guess let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5241">TS</a>]

01:27:24   the obvious a lot of this reminded me at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5244">TS</a>]

01:27:26   times a blade runner and in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5246">TS</a>]

01:27:28   some of the characters actually tracked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5248">TS</a>]

01:27:30   characters and later in some ways but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5250">TS</a>]

01:27:32   like you know I I just think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5252">TS</a>]

01:27:34   something I don't know there's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:36   you said with John like you said like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5256">TS</a>]

01:27:38   you talk to a dog or yeah you realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5258">TS</a>]

01:27:40   this thing is not real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:41   like even though the and these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:43   are aware that they're not people but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:46   that doesn't mean that they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:47   these these feelings I i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5267">TS</a>]

01:27:49   found a very affecting that was great i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:51   love max yeah I really like I needed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:54   because she had to do the dual mode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5274">TS</a>]

01:27:56   like show what a sense is like when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5276">TS</a>]

01:27:58   not contrast and show what it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5278">TS</a>]

01:28:00   when it is conscious and eat i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:01   that they didn't do any changes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:03   makeup i think it was all just acting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5283">TS</a>]

01:28:05   but you know like when she's recharging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:07   the chair and a second just as I'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:08   here and then goes back like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5288">TS</a>]

01:28:10   great to see her transition from the she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5290">TS</a>]

01:28:13   I think she was the best at being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5293">TS</a>]

01:28:14   robotic without doing the robot because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:17   she was on camera a lot and she had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5297">TS</a>]

01:28:19   kind of figure that out and then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:20   she becomes the regular person it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5300">TS</a>]

01:28:22   almost like it's like it's not even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5302">TS</a>]

01:28:23   same actress but she's not in an either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:25   mode when she's in media mode but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5305">TS</a>]

01:28:28   the whole thing of like you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5308">TS</a>]

01:28:30   you're kind of acclimate yourself to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5310">TS</a>]

01:28:31   show through the first like maybe three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5311">TS</a>]

01:28:33   or four episodes i don't know if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5313">TS</a>]

01:28:35   guys did this but i found myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5315">TS</a>]

01:28:36   wondering like these are a eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5316">TS</a>]

01:28:38   these are extremely powerful computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5318">TS</a>]

01:28:40   like what they choose to expose to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5320">TS</a>]

01:28:42   family in terms of the output may you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5322">TS</a>]

01:28:45   wonder how much that has to do with what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5325">TS</a>]

01:28:46   they actually quote-unquote know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5326">TS</a>]

01:28:49   obviously you see that the wife is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5329">TS</a>]

01:28:50   hiding around the corner in this case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5330">TS</a>]

01:28:52   you know but like you know all along I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5332">TS</a>]

01:28:54   kept wondering like how much is she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5334">TS</a>]

01:28:56   assimilating that we don't know yet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5336">TS</a>]

01:28:58   she has such a lack of a fact but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5338">TS</a>]

01:29:01   not it is she's not like just gonna quit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:03   being a robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:04   there's something about that actress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5344">TS</a>]

01:29:06   just killed it at being able to do these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5346">TS</a>]

01:29:08   incredibly subtle things that kept you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5348">TS</a>]

01:29:10   on the bubble of wondering like how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5350">TS</a>]

01:29:12   she knew and how much that humanity was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:14   like shining through right and it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5354">TS</a>]

01:29:16   that was in story reason for that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5356">TS</a>]

01:29:17   like the idea of the other conscious was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5357">TS</a>]

01:29:19   buried under there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:20   right you know it was influencing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5360">TS</a>]

01:29:22   like you know what does she know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5362">TS</a>]

01:29:24   scared of spiders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:25   I you know just how douchey reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:28   these emotions uh how did you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5368">TS</a>]

01:29:31   i would like to read the book to Sophie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5371">TS</a>]

01:29:32   you don't like the whole that I that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5372">TS</a>]

01:29:35   a great early part of the season because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5375">TS</a>]

01:29:36   you are put into the mindset of the wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5376">TS</a>]

01:29:38   Laura I think her name was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5378">TS</a>]

01:29:40   it's a issue no Louis yeah I mean I is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5380">TS</a>]

01:29:43   obvious reasons why you may be jealous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5383">TS</a>]

01:29:45   and upset that her husband brings up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5385">TS</a>]

01:29:47   this you know sexpot into the house or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5387">TS</a>]

01:29:48   whatever right but on the other level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5388">TS</a>]

01:29:51   like she's doubting yourself like am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5391">TS</a>]

01:29:53   just overreacting it you know app you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5393">TS</a>]

01:29:56   know it's like she actively undermining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5396">TS</a>]

01:29:58   me is she liked it yeah yeah and it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5398">TS</a>]

01:30:00   is it because it the they so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:03   established the world but it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5403">TS</a>]

01:30:04   like wandering for toasters undermining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5404">TS</a>]

01:30:06   you like if these interests appliances [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5406">TS</a>]

01:30:08   everyone everyone knows how they work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5408">TS</a>]

01:30:10   like the whole family knows how they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5410">TS</a>]

01:30:11   hurt people they're never going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5411">TS</a>]

01:30:13   this they're never gonna do that anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5413">TS</a>]

01:30:14   here's this one that is far as she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5414">TS</a>]

01:30:16   concerned and again i think is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5416">TS</a>]

01:30:18   that would be much more common but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5418">TS</a>]

01:30:20   had so firmly established the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5420">TS</a>]

01:30:21   rest of the world totally believe these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5421">TS</a>]

01:30:22   things are just like appliances and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5422">TS</a>]

01:30:24   she's the only crazy one who thinks i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5424">TS</a>]

01:30:26   think it's it's noticing more than and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:28   it turns out it is noticing more right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5428">TS</a>]

01:30:30   because this is a special one or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5430">TS</a>]

01:30:31   whatever but in reality if we had since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5431">TS</a>]

01:30:33   like this everybody would think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5433">TS</a>]

01:30:34   think they're since they're out to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5434">TS</a>]

01:30:36   them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5436">TS</a>]

01:30:36   no one would allow a sexy female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5436">TS</a>]

01:30:38   sentence of their house like it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5438">TS</a>]

01:30:39   these are it's this is sci-fi that day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5439">TS</a>]

01:30:43   even getting beyond the fact that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5443">TS</a>]

01:30:45   that we have technology created since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5445">TS</a>]

01:30:47   there'd be so many other temp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5447">TS</a>]

01:30:48   technological implications that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5448">TS</a>]

01:30:49   wouldn't be just it's just like our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5449">TS</a>]

01:30:50   world but with since biggest issue if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5450">TS</a>]

01:30:53   you can do a scent so might you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5453">TS</a>]

01:30:55   you have to kind of carve out this it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5455">TS</a>]

01:30:57   more of a fantasy scenario were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5457">TS</a>]

01:30:58   take the world as it is now and add this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5458">TS</a>]

01:31:01   one magical thing but pretend it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5461">TS</a>]

01:31:02   magic and don't think too much about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5462">TS</a>]

01:31:04   implications we won't have a smaller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5464">TS</a>]

01:31:06   stories you don't have the budget for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5466">TS</a>]

01:31:07   the human scent war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5467">TS</a>]

01:31:08   um if you can put all that out of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5468">TS</a>]

01:31:11   mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5471">TS</a>]

01:31:11   I i think the show holds together as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5471">TS</a>]

01:31:15   know this it is a gentle kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5475">TS</a>]

01:31:17   fun-sized us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:19   slow-paced relaxing sci-fi story that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:22   that episode 1i think like I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:24   the series starts slow because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5484">TS</a>]

01:31:26   if you watch episode 1 and you're into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5486">TS</a>]

01:31:28   sci-fi you understand everything they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:30   setting up you understand your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5490">TS</a>]

01:31:31   attentions they're gonna set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5491">TS</a>]

01:31:33   and how you may not know how it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:34   going to evolve but so many sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5494">TS</a>]

01:31:37   pieces are put onto the board the I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5497">TS</a>]

01:31:39   was just excited by the first episode I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5499">TS</a>]

01:31:41   wanted to see how these pieces were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5501">TS</a>]

01:31:42   going to move and in the end I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5502">TS</a>]

01:31:44   they just kind of dump the board back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5504">TS</a>]

01:31:46   into the box and fold the game up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5506">TS</a>]

01:31:47   said come back in season 2 anymore we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5507">TS</a>]

01:31:50   should talk about that humans i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5510">TS</a>]

01:31:52   little girl what's her name is Sophie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5512">TS</a>]

01:31:53   Sophie so adorable so cute so cute and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5513">TS</a>]

01:31:56   really like maybe you adorable and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5516">TS</a>]

01:31:58   would watch The Adventures of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5518">TS</a>]

01:32:00   Maddie and Maddie in the sense in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:03   computer hackers sofiane miska miska [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5523">TS</a>]

01:32:05   will be dismembering people with it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5525">TS</a>]

01:32:07   with pruning shears and little girl be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5527">TS</a>]

01:32:09   like play dolls with me help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5529">TS</a>]

01:32:11   yeah I'd watch like their version of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5531">TS</a>]

01:32:13   road yeah that's right that's right it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5533">TS</a>]

01:32:16   a little girl in her murder violent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5536">TS</a>]

01:32:18   memory be there too i would never let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5538">TS</a>]

01:32:20   any harm come to Sophie and they solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5540">TS</a>]

01:32:22   crimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5542">TS</a>]

01:32:22   I'm sorry Sophie I'm afraid I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5542">TS</a>]

01:32:24   understand the question so John are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5544">TS</a>]

01:32:30   sense of human robots or not I it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5550">TS</a>]

01:32:34   tough with the sense because they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5554">TS</a>]

01:32:36   it seem like it's just kind of living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5556">TS</a>]

01:32:38   skin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:38   I don't know enough about what goes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:40   inside them are they like the terminator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5560">TS</a>]

01:32:41   where it's just a robot with living skin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5561">TS</a>]

01:32:42   attached to the outside or are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5562">TS</a>]

01:32:44   biological through and through with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5564">TS</a>]

01:32:46   mechanical enhancements and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5566">TS</a>]

01:32:48   special-effects budget the show says we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5568">TS</a>]

01:32:51   can't tell you because all we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5571">TS</a>]

01:32:52   to show you a superficial skin with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5572">TS</a>]

01:32:53   blue blood but why is there blood at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5573">TS</a>]

01:32:56   and why is the blood blue I'm leaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5576">TS</a>]

01:32:58   towards sidebar for these guys think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5578">TS</a>]

01:33:00   they're organic parts in there is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5580">TS</a>]

01:33:02   can't is why else would you have I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5582">TS</a>]

01:33:04   is the blood just for the skin is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5584">TS</a>]

01:33:05   chia pet where it's just on the surface [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5585">TS</a>]

01:33:07   and notice i like is like like a robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5587">TS</a>]

01:33:09   lubricant 444 but it seems like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:13   have a circulatory system and why do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5593">TS</a>]

01:33:15   do maybe you just need a circulatory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5595">TS</a>]

01:33:17   system for the skin I don't know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5597">TS</a>]

01:33:18   don't know enough about what's inside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5598">TS</a>]

01:33:19   these things we haven't seen any of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5599">TS</a>]

01:33:20   sliced in half so i can make a call yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5600">TS</a>]

01:33:23   but ok was like it seems like cyborgs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5603">TS</a>]

01:33:24   me all right especially especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5604">TS</a>]

01:33:26   they're going to be convincing sexpots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5606">TS</a>]

01:33:28   interesting well that may be true but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5608">TS</a>]

01:33:29   that's what the blue fluid floor 40 we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5609">TS</a>]

01:33:33   also don't know how much the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5613">TS</a>]

01:33:34   that we knew we had a density measure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5614">TS</a>]

01:33:36   like they all like 400 pounds because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5616">TS</a>]

01:33:38   they're you know made of steel and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5618">TS</a>]

01:33:40   I don't write will have to stay tuned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5620">TS</a>]

01:33:42   for season 2 where they won't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5622">TS</a>]

01:33:43   I'm sure they're gonna have suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5623">TS</a>]

01:33:44   came to this yeah seems like alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:46   autopsy by the Saints robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:50   yeah I wish we had more time for humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5630">TS</a>]

01:33:52   i got tons more to say about I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5632">TS</a>]

01:33:53   drag it out but I I thought we decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5633">TS</a>]

01:33:55   that was really good i thought the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5635">TS</a>]

01:33:57   episode was it was like basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5637">TS</a>]

01:33:59   we both watched my wife and I were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5639">TS</a>]

01:34:01   was so excited after i know it and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5641">TS</a>]

01:34:03   like that was really know you can feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5643">TS</a>]

01:34:06   them backing off of all the momentum if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5646">TS</a>]

01:34:08   you if you thought about it though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5648">TS</a>]

01:34:09   how could they and now without ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:13   the series like it's like if you wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5653">TS</a>]

01:34:15   to do the the final bits big dramatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5655">TS</a>]

01:34:17   think it builds up builds up and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5657">TS</a>]

01:34:19   they're all conscious and wait for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5659">TS</a>]

01:34:20   season two of them what the hell they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5660">TS</a>]

01:34:21   doing season two didn't make it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5661">TS</a>]

01:34:22   don't have the budget for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5662">TS</a>]

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01:34:25   be an interesting problem i'd love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5665">TS</a>]

01:34:27   have that problem but I mean I'd rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5667">TS</a>]

01:34:29   have that problem then have the lose the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5669">TS</a>]

01:34:32   momentum thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5672">TS</a>]

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01:34:34   didn't lose it they like to put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5674">TS</a>]

01:34:36   brakes i stopped dead yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5676">TS</a>]

01:34:37   yep they're afraid i was there like here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5677">TS</a>]

01:34:40   there we have to have season two and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5680">TS</a>]

01:34:42   then and then I had to screw with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5682">TS</a>]

01:34:43   character motivations you like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5683">TS</a>]

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01:34:47   herself to her partner and says you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5687">TS</a>]

01:34:49   my favorite human but then has his dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5689">TS</a>]

01:34:51   past but then also wants to kill her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5691">TS</a>]

01:34:53   since family within changes in mind i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5693">TS</a>]

01:34:54   not going to kill you they're gonna help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5694">TS</a>]

01:34:55   you but then one of them is brainwashing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5695">TS</a>]

01:34:56   us just like too much to like too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5696">TS</a>]

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01:35:01   out of character just so you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5701">TS</a>]

01:35:03   call your momentum and spread them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5703">TS</a>]

01:35:05   the four winds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5705">TS</a>]

01:35:06   however many wins there are four all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5706">TS</a>]

01:35:09   right I think we've come to the end it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5709">TS</a>]

01:35:10   was a good summer with a couple really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5710">TS</a>]

01:35:12   outstanding shows that you should check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5712">TS</a>]

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01:35:17   haven't you've been spoiled about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5717">TS</a>]

01:35:19   but you know some people do that so I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5719">TS</a>]

01:35:22   like to thank my guess for joining me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5722">TS</a>]

01:35:24   talk about mr. robot and humans David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5724">TS</a>]

01:35:27   lure thank you thank you don't syracuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5727">TS</a>]

01:35:30   thanks for being here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5730">TS</a>]

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01:35:37   a good cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5737">TS</a>]

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01:35:40   think it was cheap come on man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5740">TS</a>]

01:35:41   thank you thank you always a pleasure to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5741">TS</a>]

01:35:44   have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5744">TS</a>]

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01:35:47   glad they're good people checking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5747">TS</a>]

01:35:50   I'm Jason snow and I thank you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5750">TS</a>]

01:35:51   listening to this episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5751">TS</a>]

01:35:53   uncomfortable we will see you next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5753">TS</a>]

01:36:01   mr. robot or not or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbFjWMo/5761">TS</a>]