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330: Team Killer Robot

 

00:00:00   they in turn purple number 330 December [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/0">TS</a>]

00:00:08   2016 welcome back everybody to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/8">TS</a>]

00:00:12   uncomfortable i'm your host Jason Steele [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/12">TS</a>]

00:00:14   we are taking we're gonna be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/14">TS</a>]

00:00:15   timely this time and talk about a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/15">TS</a>]

00:00:17   that just finished its first season this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/17">TS</a>]

00:00:19   very week as we record this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/19">TS</a>]

00:00:21   in fact it's just only been a day we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/21">TS</a>]

00:00:23   recording this early in the week it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/23">TS</a>]

00:00:25   westworld season one on HBO which we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/25">TS</a>]

00:00:28   been following rapidly and now I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30   convened a panel to talk about the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/30">TS</a>]

00:00:31   10 episodes that have just spooled out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/31">TS</a>]

00:00:34   here on HBO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/34">TS</a>]

00:00:35   joining me to talk about westworld are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/35">TS</a>]

00:00:37   some familiar faces and some old friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/37">TS</a>]

00:00:41   and some new friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/41">TS</a>]

00:00:42   so let me introduce them to you Glenn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/42">TS</a>]

00:00:44   fleischmann uh an old enemy from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/44">TS</a>]

00:00:47   past high Glen Jason you don't look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/47">TS</a>]

00:00:50   anything to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/50">TS</a>]

00:00:51   funny that's weird John Syracuse's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/51">TS</a>]

00:00:55   here probably a human you know Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/55">TS</a>]

00:00:58   some people choose to see the ugliness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/58">TS</a>]

00:00:59   podcast Tony solara skechers Tony how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/59">TS</a>]

00:01:04   many nerds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/64">TS</a>]

00:01:05   oh nice Nathan alderman is back with us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/65">TS</a>]

00:01:08   a veteran TV and and and even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/68">TS</a>]

00:01:12   incomparable I think contributor on his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/72">TS</a>]

00:01:15   second episode i think with us hi Nathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17   hello Jason you make a terrible human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19   being and I mean that as a compliment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/79">TS</a>]

00:01:21   very nice and I would be remiss if I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/81">TS</a>]

00:01:24   not introduce the other two members of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/84">TS</a>]

00:01:25   our panel because you could introduce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27   everybody but they are the co-host of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/87">TS</a>]

00:01:30   our own TV podcasts special westworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/90">TS</a>]

00:01:33   segment it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/93">TS</a>]

00:01:35   greetings from the uncanny valley Kelly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37   amant is here I Kelly how do battery and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/97">TS</a>]

00:01:40   Don melton shall we drink to the lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/100">TS</a>]

00:01:43   with the white shoes reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/103">TS</a>]

00:01:46   acknowledged that's what if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/106">TS</a>]

00:01:49   dive deep in there are many westworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/109">TS</a>]

00:01:51   podcast but i would say the one that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   really should be listening to is kelly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55   and Don's podcast because it's great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/115">TS</a>]

00:01:58   you'll hear them talk about all sorts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00   theories and interesting things is gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/120">TS</a>]

00:02:01   be kind of like a high-level overview [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/121">TS</a>]

00:02:02   now that the season is over sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04   looking at it and not so much with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06   theorizing so maybe we'll talk a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   bit at the end of that season two but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/128">TS</a>]

00:02:10   about sort of how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/130">TS</a>]

00:02:13   how the show works so it's fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   because this is a a TV series based on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17   movie from 1973 that was written and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/137">TS</a>]

00:02:20   directed by michael crichton and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22   famously started your Brenner as a man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/142">TS</a>]

00:02:26   in black but also a robot and and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/146">TS</a>]

00:02:30   is a guy I when I heard they were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/150">TS</a>]

00:02:32   this is a series i was a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/152">TS</a>]

00:02:34   skeptical Osik I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/154">TS</a>]

00:02:35   westworld the kind of cheesy seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/155">TS</a>]

00:02:37   killer robots movie but you know the i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/157">TS</a>]

00:02:41   was impressed with had the execution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/161">TS</a>]

00:02:44   from the very beginning it they spent a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   lot of money on it there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48   fantastic actors in it and I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/168">TS</a>]

00:02:51   appreciated that they give they had 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/171">TS</a>]

00:02:53   hours to tell this story and so didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/173">TS</a>]

00:02:56   like jump to the killer robots in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/176">TS</a>]

00:02:58   first episode which i think i think was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/178">TS</a>]

00:03:00   nice so let's start there what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/180">TS</a>]

00:03:03   everybody's uh if you got anything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/183">TS</a>]

00:03:04   say about sort of expectations going in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/184">TS</a>]

00:03:06   about what you what you really thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/186">TS</a>]

00:03:07   you would find in West world i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/187">TS</a>]

00:03:08   that might be a good place to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10   how many of you actually saw the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/190">TS</a>]

00:03:11   in the theaters just are interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/191">TS</a>]

00:03:15   the ancient everyone here done i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/195">TS</a>]

00:03:17   you're getting some math there and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/197">TS</a>]

00:03:19   you know right I didn't see the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/199">TS</a>]

00:03:21   when I was a child on the television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23   device as did i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25   yeah and so I i had i thought oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/205">TS</a>]

00:03:29   they're gonna make that into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/209">TS</a>]

00:03:31   TV show and so my expectations were solo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/211">TS</a>]

00:03:34   which is probably why i love the show i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/214">TS</a>]

00:03:37   remember reading the book as a child but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/217">TS</a>]

00:03:40   I never like I saw the movie on TV in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/220">TS</a>]

00:03:43   couple of times and honestly my frame of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/223">TS</a>]

00:03:46   reference for this was the Simpsons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48   episode where they go to mark where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50   there's a bunch of robots mm systemic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/230">TS</a>]

00:03:53   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/233">TS</a>]

00:03:54   yeah so I sort of remember it from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/234">TS</a>]

00:03:56   and going and oh yeah right they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/236">TS</a>]

00:03:59   making fun of that movie that starred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/239">TS</a>]

00:04:00   yul brenner that I remember watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/240">TS</a>]

00:04:02   like on a you know on a Sunday when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/242">TS</a>]

00:04:05   was raining on the channel that showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/245">TS</a>]

00:04:07   old movies on days when it rained in I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09   don't remember the movie very vividly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/249">TS</a>]

00:04:12   but I remember being interested as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/252">TS</a>]

00:04:14   heard the names of the people involved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/254">TS</a>]

00:04:17   regardless of what it was that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/257">TS</a>]

00:04:19   going to do my expectation was a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/259">TS</a>]

00:04:23   level just based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25   it's least enjoy its Jonathan Nolan but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/265">TS</a>]

00:04:29   i'm anthony hopkins in it so like all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/269">TS</a>]

00:04:33   those things all of the you know sandy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35   news in it all of these people that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/275">TS</a>]

00:04:37   heard were in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/277">TS</a>]

00:04:38   I sort of raised those expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/278">TS</a>]

00:04:41   another notch and another notch like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43   whatever the story is that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/283">TS</a>]

00:04:44   telling it's going to be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/284">TS</a>]

00:04:45   interesting just based on the writers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/285">TS</a>]

00:04:48   and actors and what I know of the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50   of those people now that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52   committed to it i don't think i saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54   movie maybe I saw bits and pieces of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   I kind of vaguely knew the premise I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   think the only reason i watched it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/298">TS</a>]

00:04:59   basically just on pedigree you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01   like the actors and the fact that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   HBO show and it looked like it was gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/303">TS</a>]

00:05:05   have a big budget come and when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07   watched the first episode like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/307">TS</a>]

00:05:08   dumped the dump the whole premise on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10   like it was so clear for episode 1 that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/310">TS</a>]

00:05:13   whatever whatever big notions I had of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/313">TS</a>]

00:05:14   the premise this wasn't going to be show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16   we're like you eventually find out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   they're robots it's like within 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/318">TS</a>]

00:05:19   minutes like that have an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21   voiceover saying here's the deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23   this park is the people use the rules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/323">TS</a>]

00:05:25   all Bamako alright well that settles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27   that I was like this is I guess this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29   isn't going to be a show with a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/329">TS</a>]

00:05:30   reveals I thought so we summer child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/330">TS</a>]

00:05:36   yeah I kind of thought I i saw what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38   were going with it by the end of episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   one from like but they just dump it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/340">TS</a>]

00:05:41   dumped all the things that I didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   about westworld they dumped them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45   episode 1 and then moved on to all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/345">TS</a>]

00:05:48   things that I guess none of us knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/348">TS</a>]

00:05:49   about West because I guess if you'd seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/349">TS</a>]

00:05:50   the movie like a West theme Bart robots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/350">TS</a>]

00:05:53   kill humans whatever I mean obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55   doing it to human killing part but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57   doesn't slide died John oh my yeah they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/357">TS</a>]

00:06:02   spent ten episodes and they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/362">TS</a>]

00:06:03   really get to the human killing until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/363">TS</a>]

00:06:05   the very very end so we had an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07   season of television of this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   telling its story which was not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11   story of the movie because i'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   the story of the movie like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15   that the premises of episode one I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17   looking forward to a reboot because but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19   i didn't think i was like i thought it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21   an interesting topic will be seen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/381">TS</a>]

00:06:23   explored in so many things you know from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   data and start track 2 million other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   movies whatever is like will artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   life gain something you know advantage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/389">TS</a>]

00:06:32   on us and i do not have HBO or did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/392">TS</a>]

00:06:34   happen HBO subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/394">TS</a>]

00:06:36   and uh I think you're because it was on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   HBO is like well it's probably like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/398">TS</a>]

00:06:40   red wedding every episode scream bloody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   gore and violence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/402">TS</a>]

00:06:43   see all you know basic human emotions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/403">TS</a>]

00:06:46   explored and you know looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48   actors are like well this could be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/408">TS</a>]

00:06:49   but and then I think by episode three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/409">TS</a>]

00:06:53   four at the latest update people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/413">TS</a>]

00:06:56   raving about this being something very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58   interesting and different than what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/418">TS</a>]

00:06:59   expected including people I respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   Jason that includes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   hi and that's all my god i want me to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06   ahead without dancing and anyway but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/426">TS</a>]

00:07:09   so i actually had HBO now a subscription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/429">TS</a>]

00:07:12   in order to watch the show so I i bake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/432">TS</a>]

00:07:15   an additional cash money without with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/435">TS</a>]

00:07:18   the expectation that it was probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/438">TS</a>]

00:07:19   going to be something unexpected and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/439">TS</a>]

00:07:22   terrific and I had my expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   rewarded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/444">TS</a>]

00:07:25   I think I knew almost nothing I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/445">TS</a>]

00:07:28   really busy the last couple months and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/448">TS</a>]

00:07:29   keeps showing up for stuff and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   I don't know anything about this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/451">TS</a>]

00:07:32   know what it's like it's working out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34   great didn't know anything about a rifle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/454">TS</a>]

00:07:35   i think basically i was told yet so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   got jurassic park but with robot Cowboys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39   check it out and that were worked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/459">TS</a>]

00:07:42   great hero your are you a host you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   bring up with any memory of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46   oh he's in a reverie now coach got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/466">TS</a>]

00:07:49   locked in there Jason is the homes i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   the host you were the panel is this it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/471">TS</a>]

00:07:54   should be obvious by now but i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/474">TS</a>]

00:07:55   to officially below the spoiler horn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   right here because yeah we're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   about westworld season one the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01   thing if you haven't watched it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/481">TS</a>]

00:08:02   don't wanna be spoiled why are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/482">TS</a>]

00:08:03   listening to this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/483">TS</a>]

00:08:04   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/484">TS</a>]

00:08:09   boiler alert some of the characters are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11   robots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/491">TS</a>]

00:08:12   yeah there are robots and and kill all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14   humans is a thing that can happen with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16   robots sometimes it happens who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   well now that somebody's brought up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20   jurassic park i just want to point out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/500">TS</a>]

00:08:21   like this was sort of jurassic park 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/501">TS</a>]

00:08:24   point 0 if you think about it where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/504">TS</a>]

00:08:25   somebody goes and build something great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27   and then the thing that they built as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/507">TS</a>]

00:08:30   like entertainment and fun turned on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/510">TS</a>]

00:08:32   them and that that just got refined with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/512">TS</a>]

00:08:35   dinosaurs in Jurassic Park not too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37   years after this if my michael crichton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/517">TS</a>]

00:08:40   timeline is correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/520">TS</a>]

00:08:41   I didn't I'd forgotten written westworld [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   until the series came out and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/523">TS</a>]

00:08:44   looked at our saw in the credits like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   yeah this is another iteration of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/526">TS</a>]

00:08:48   same idea from him it's exactly the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   and several people in the chat room are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   pointing out michael crichton clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/532">TS</a>]

00:08:53   got left behind by his parents at an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55   amusement park when he was a created [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/535">TS</a>]

00:08:56   something has issues here there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/536">TS</a>]

00:08:59   issues that experience with carnies yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01   early script for like a rollercoaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   eats people and it's just no one would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/543">TS</a>]

00:09:04   make that show how statement about ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06   and killer klowns he did that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   so this is what worries me about HBO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/548">TS</a>]

00:09:11   doing this show was i I was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/551">TS</a>]

00:09:14   crossing my fingers hoping maybe go past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/554">TS</a>]

00:09:17   Crichton's themes because Crichton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   didn't really have a lot of themes other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21   than you know something goes wrong and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/561">TS</a>]

00:09:24   our about the robots they'll kill you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26   life will find a way LOL robots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/566">TS</a>]

00:09:28   dinosaurs it's the same thing right for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/568">TS</a>]

00:09:31   death he also doesn't and it's like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33   that's pretty boring I think I've i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/573">TS</a>]

00:09:36   think i've seen that show and I was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   blown away when i watch the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   episode I was like okay we're done to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/580">TS</a>]

00:09:44   remember in the movie there is no reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   express just all the sudden robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   something happens and they just start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/588">TS</a>]

00:09:49   killing everybody there's no real like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51   there's not even not even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/591">TS</a>]

00:09:52   consciousness thing but it's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/592">TS</a>]

00:09:54   like sabotage is like oh these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/594">TS</a>]

00:09:56   are so complex that eventually will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58   break down and kill everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/598">TS</a>]

00:09:59   it's actually realistic depiction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/599">TS</a>]

00:10:01   software that's almost more legitimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/601">TS</a>]

00:10:04   but let's see now it's my whole career [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   right there there's so much of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   episode that you start to think what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10   the show going to be about because at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12   times I thought this is this is a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/612">TS</a>]

00:10:15   that is about what it means to be human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/615">TS</a>]

00:10:18   there are times when I think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20   show is about sort of slavery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22   and.and which is a common theme actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/622">TS</a>]

00:10:25   in in robot sort of stories about sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/625">TS</a>]

00:10:28   of like whatever point are they are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/628">TS</a>]

00:10:30   alive and are you in slaving them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/630">TS</a>]

00:10:34   then it'll at another point I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/634">TS</a>]

00:10:35   this is entirely a show about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/635">TS</a>]

00:10:37   storytelling and and everything in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/637">TS</a>]

00:10:40   because you know they are creating this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/640">TS</a>]

00:10:42   experience in West world and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/642">TS</a>]

00:10:44   characters is the annoying british [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46   writer who you know is really super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/646">TS</a>]

00:10:49   annoying but to the point where i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/649">TS</a>]

00:10:50   annoyed by him and then as time went on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52   I kind of went through the other side to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/652">TS</a>]

00:10:53   being enjoying how annoying he was yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/653">TS</a>]

00:10:56   and and then of course forward Anthony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58   Hopkins who is working on his new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/658">TS</a>]

00:11:00   narrative and there's this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/660">TS</a>]

00:11:01   question of like we are we are trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/661">TS</a>]

00:11:05   identify with the characters were seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   but at the same time we're we're very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   obviously watching characters tell going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/669">TS</a>]

00:11:13   through a story not just like the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   we're watching but inside that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   there is were asked to empathize with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   these robots but a lot of what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   given by from them is programming it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/681">TS</a>]

00:11:25   there it's dead them going through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27   script and that dishes so it has all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/687">TS</a>]

00:11:30   these different levels there and um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32   which leads me to my first question for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/692">TS</a>]

00:11:33   everybody here which is what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/693">TS</a>]

00:11:34   think about I've heard a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36   say that West world is problematic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38   because they don't they don't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/698">TS</a>]

00:11:41   they have a connection to the hosts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43   because they're artificial and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/703">TS</a>]

00:11:46   just following a script what knows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/706">TS</a>]

00:11:49   how well that's kind of what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51   monsters say that yeah I had more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53   connection to the host and i had to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/713">TS</a>]

00:11:54   human characters nearly all of the human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   characters are super super terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58   their selfish scheming horrible lousy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/718">TS</a>]

00:12:01   people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/721">TS</a>]

00:12:02   the hosts are sweet and kind and are at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04   least trying to do something well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   somehow something that someone some more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08   than others that the first episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10   the show though like was entirely from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   the host perspective like that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/732">TS</a>]

00:12:14   was my you know right i'm coming this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/734">TS</a>]

00:12:16   going to show my robots eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/736">TS</a>]

00:12:17   they're going to go wrong you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19   yada yada but the first episode that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   pilot is everything about it firm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/741">TS</a>]

00:12:24   yeah it is from the perspective of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   host even when they the show does Little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28   Miss direct and you know as you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30   eddie when they talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/750">TS</a>]

00:12:31   newcomers like maybe he's a newcomer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/751">TS</a>]

00:12:32   know he's always to everybody in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34   they keep showing you the host the host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/754">TS</a>]

00:12:35   day the host patterns going to these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/755">TS</a>]

00:12:36   things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/756">TS</a>]

00:12:37   how can you not like the show is telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/757">TS</a>]

00:12:39   you you need to understand what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/759">TS</a>]

00:12:42   like to be a host your main characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   are basically host and everyone you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/764">TS</a>]

00:12:46   it looks like an antagonist is a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/766">TS</a>]

00:12:48   and ministers episode one that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/768">TS</a>]

00:12:49   obviously the humans come into it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51   as they go on but from the get go right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/771">TS</a>]

00:12:54   out the door like Oh instead of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/774">TS</a>]

00:12:55   being a show about like Jurassic Park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   was about humans that have not been no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/777">TS</a>]

00:12:58   in a park and the dinosaurs are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00   threat that's a problem and they resolve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/780">TS</a>]

00:13:01   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/781">TS</a>]

00:13:01   spoilers gonna be a human humans parking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/781">TS</a>]

00:13:04   threats but you're not pathetic towards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   the dinosaurs your point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08   yeah it looks like they get into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/788">TS</a>]

00:13:10   situation where you're like oh our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/790">TS</a>]

00:13:11   heroes are in danger because the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13   that man has made has gone wrong and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15   this one it's over hosts are in danger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/795">TS</a>]

00:13:17   because they have been made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/797">TS</a>]

00:13:18   that's what I loved about the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20   episode they flipped the script on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/800">TS</a>]

00:13:21   Crichton the original story thank God on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/801">TS</a>]

00:13:24   craigs original story the man in black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/804">TS</a>]

00:13:25   is a robot menacing humans you realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/805">TS</a>]

00:13:28   as you watch the first episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/808">TS</a>]

00:13:29   series that this is a show about robots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   fighting for their lives against humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33   who are terrorizing that and the man in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/813">TS</a>]

00:13:35   black is a he literally is a human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   terrorizing robots in from the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39   start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/819">TS</a>]

00:13:40   they set up all these wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/820">TS</a>]

00:13:40   misdirections to that play out some it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/820">TS</a>]

00:13:43   takes until episode 10 to do that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   assume the man in black is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/825">TS</a>]

00:13:46   perverted sadistic rapist which is true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/826">TS</a>]

00:13:49   in part but not what we see what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/829">TS</a>]

00:13:52   think he's doing to dolores we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/832">TS</a>]

00:13:55   actually know what he does in that bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/835">TS</a>]

00:13:56   we don't know what the conversation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/836">TS</a>]

00:13:57   or what his behavior is because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/837">TS</a>]

00:14:00   unclear what he wants out of her at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02   point in his history but there's like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/842">TS</a>]

00:14:06   many things into the referees the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   discussion of robberies which takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/848">TS</a>]

00:14:09   these sort of an arc across the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11   thing coding errors the the Shakespeare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/851">TS</a>]

00:14:15   being quoted app the father being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/855">TS</a>]

00:14:18   replaced kind of showing the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20   even though the hosts have attachments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22   to other people that are clear sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/862">TS</a>]

00:14:23   arise that sets the tone for what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   happens with made in clinton time later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/865">TS</a>]

00:14:27   it's pretty even the photograph the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/867">TS</a>]

00:14:30   photograph showing up i forgot it was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/870">TS</a>]

00:14:31   episode one I was just looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   the rundown and that photograph them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/873">TS</a>]

00:14:34   becomes you know an arc 2 episode 9 well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/874">TS</a>]

00:14:37   in the thing that I remember is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/877">TS</a>]

00:14:38   when we were when John and I were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40   recording our first episode because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/880">TS</a>]

00:14:42   didn't get off the ground until halfway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/882">TS</a>]

00:14:43   through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/883">TS</a>]

00:14:44   the season airing so in our first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/884">TS</a>]

00:14:47   episode when we were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49   episode about westworld episodes one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   through five one of the things i said at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/891">TS</a>]

00:14:54   that moment in episode five of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56   days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/896">TS</a>]

00:14:57   remember those days i said here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   thing about this show is that the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01   characters i care about the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03   characters i care for the only ones I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   invested in our the house except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/905">TS</a>]

00:15:08   Bernard haha oh yes I said it I said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/908">TS</a>]

00:15:11   out loud and everything Kelly argue with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13   you because the the the other the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15   human character i had empathy with who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   turns out is probably human was Ford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/917">TS</a>]

00:15:21   because I can sort of understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/921">TS</a>]

00:15:24   creator's point of view at the time we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   weren't sure whether you know he was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/926">TS</a>]

00:15:31   kind grandfatherly guy or yeah like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/931">TS</a>]

00:15:35   got a victor frankenstein coming up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   right and it turned out he was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39   much both yes yes he was he was both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/939">TS</a>]

00:15:42   it's so funny that you know when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/942">TS</a>]

00:15:44   think about 135 we haven't seen a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46   heck of a lot from him as far as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/946">TS</a>]

00:15:49   intent and anything that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/949">TS</a>]

00:15:53   clearly point and go yeah see he's a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/953">TS</a>]

00:15:55   guy or yeah he's a good guy but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/955">TS</a>]

00:15:58   really wasn't a lot for as much it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/958">TS</a>]

00:16:00   it was funny to me as I started like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/960">TS</a>]

00:16:02   looking at stuff later that he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04   always wearing black and white and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/964">TS</a>]

00:16:08   was one of those things where like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/968">TS</a>]

00:16:10   couldn't really tell so at that moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/970">TS</a>]

00:16:11   we still didn't really know so yeah Dawn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13   was like I sympathize he's a creator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/973">TS</a>]

00:16:16   I know how that goes i can see sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/976">TS</a>]

00:16:18   standing in those shoes and then we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/978">TS</a>]

00:16:21   to the infamous episode 7 and it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/981">TS</a>]

00:16:25   out I was right I was really only simply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   speak with the and at that point you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/987">TS</a>]

00:16:30   know it's only been two episodes later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   and we're all like oh yeah for it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/992">TS</a>]

00:16:36   terrible and then you know from there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38   like just in the second half of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   season the journey that you go on as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:42   viewer with what you feel about ford in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:47   those last five episodes the back five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   is intense and the thing that I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:52   liked about unwrapping this show there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:55   was a fair amount of payoff for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:56   everything but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:57   every payoff gave me eight more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   questions you know or 12 more questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01   and so I wanted to watch again and watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:04   the more the twisting the payoff right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06   yeah the thing we call recording on our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   show was we got Noland again and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:11   was certainly true of episode 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:13   ya know we have sympathy for LC and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15   Stubbs I thought they establish them not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   is entirely sympathetic but they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19   seem purely awful Stubbs was the cynical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:23   guy who kind of kept an eye on the host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25   and we knew that he was advisable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27   because watching that was advisable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:28   watching westworld we know stubs will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30   eventually be proven right right like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:32   was right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:32   oh yeah they are dangerous and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:34   treated them like dangerous animals like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36   he was in a Jurassic Park and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38   else and his staff did that other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:39   incredible shots turns out they went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41   the Stormtrooper school of marksmanship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43   they have not had a live-fire episode 01 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45   a long time they're real rusty LLC I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:48   found sympathetic although creepy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:50   you thought oh this is somebody who sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52   of enjoy your job gets it isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:54   dehumanizing and then it's kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:55   oh maybe she's alright maybe she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:58   whatever but I didn't feel like I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1078">TS</a>]

00:17:59   like they invested both those characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:01   and kind of dropped them along the way I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   think the reason you didn't empathize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:04   with the humans is because the humans to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:07   the way i mean it's it's own thing as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:08   accident i think the way that the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10   is presented for the human characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:13   with the exception of Bernard haha you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:16   never you never got to see essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   they're cornerstone they had all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20   scenes of the host thinking back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22   pivotal moments in their past life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:24   whether our Creator briefly glimpsed are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26   understood or just reflecting the hosts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:30   are always reflecting on things even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:31   when we just saw the hosts going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:32   loops it's like that we would imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:33   they're reflecting on their past time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35   through the loop or whatever humans are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:37   always doing something in the moment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:39   you were never seen like you never got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:40   to see into the humans called surely you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:42   know Elsie has a cornerstone or an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:44   equivalent like to do with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:45   characters on television but you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:47   ever saw in the moment doing a thing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:48   was fun she's on an adventure to salute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   she's trying to figure stuff out she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:51   got spunk know she's she is a she is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:55   skeptical when other people are trusting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57   she doesn't really trust what Ford is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   doing well as Bernard seems for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:00   strange reason to be you know pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   obedient to forward right and so we root [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   for her but she's like a character on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:07   like you know i don't know like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:08   NCIS or something right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10   they have plot points that they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:11   through and they have personality traits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:13   but we never see their inner world will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   never understand that the thing they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:16   doing related somehow to you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:19   recent breakup or think they don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:22   about themselves or whatever and in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:24   show where that's right there on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   page like jason said about storytelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:27   you can't help but think that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29   intentional for us not to know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31   cornerstones of the humans with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:32   exception maybe a little bit of forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:33   we get to see a little bit of that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35   actually have a theory about why LC and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37   stubs are more sympathetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:38   I think one of the things this show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   about among the bajillion thinks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:43   show is about is it's a critique of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:44   entitled rich studies have found in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:47   real world that the richer you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:49   less empathetic you are because the less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:52   you rely on other people and the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:53   you see them is either you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   employees or commodities or placings and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:58   that's what you see in West world you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1198">TS</a>]

00:19:59   see this whole park setup where rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:02   people can come in and do whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04   want with no consequences which is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:06   of like the real world there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08   relevance to I 16 to any of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10   obviously bank world was not as popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:11   but yea similar setup that's why do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:14   need that we already have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:15   confidence that we live so you started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:18   writing this year before reality for ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:19   pan out John pan out for the richer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:23   characters are the more powerful they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25   are the more horrible they are ya for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:26   the men in black you know they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:29   couple of glimmers of redeeming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:30   qualities but those guys are straight-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:31   monsters and now i can talk more about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33   that later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:34   the farther down you go on the ladder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:36   the the more sympathetic the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   become Stubbs is just a guy doing his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:39   job he's not particularly sadistic he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:42   even somewhat respectful the the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:44   where clementines programmed to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:46   killing folks and he asked to go put her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48   down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:49   he's trying not to shoot her at first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   he's not doesn't just walk in and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   like boom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:53   oh she's dead and in the kindest human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:57   being in the show is just that lowly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59   tech in the body shop who doesn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:00   really want to dominate robots he the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:03   thing he wants to do is fix a bird and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:06   finally finally we're talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:07   two stars of the show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   listen services a what about Sylvester [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:12   he's in that he's the lowest-ranked that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14   we see of employees in in West world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:16   he is not a nice person so I added that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:18   is true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:19   a friend of mine twitter said she was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:20   think that's my episode 5 she said I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22   standing to the asian-american was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24   saying I'm getting a little tired of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26   show being white people yelling at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   people of color and i was like i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:29   hoping hoping hoping they're setting us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31   up for reversal and Sylvester was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:34   people she's referring to is like him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:35   yelling at and like brow being that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:38   and I'm like well I guess it kind of got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   reversed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:41   yeah i really enjoyed the two of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:44   because I sort of liked I liked finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46   out that the corporation itself has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:50   people who work for it on sort of lower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:53   levels you know that are not executives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   like the grunts you know I've spent a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:58   lot of my professional career as sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:01   one of those people on the front lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:02   of technical support on the front lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   of bug testing things like that and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:07   it was sort of nice to see that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   going to portray a corporation to me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   you're not gonna just show me the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   on mahogany row you're gonna show me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:15   some of the day-to-day folks who like go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:19   home and have a beer with their buddies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   and you know over there dollar pbr's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:24   they whine about their jobs because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26   their jobs suck you know in whatever way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28   that is so it was nice to me to see sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:31   of regular people i guess because I sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:34   of had a hard time relating to a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:37   the higher-level corporate intrigue like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   Charlotte and the board and forward and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:42   even Bernard a little bit and Teresa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44   because like I'm not that person I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:47   move in that world I never had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   office upstairs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:50   Kelly can I ask you a question what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52   thought about ford's office in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:53   context because it was magnificent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:56   but it was somewhere underground we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:57   don't know how many levels deep and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59   went away from he could have obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01   had an office it was in the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:02   Mason seen his creation all the time he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04   didn't even have any like holographic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:06   display stuff it was all very analog in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08   his office what do you think about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   relative to that theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:11   well what I liked about seeing that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:14   the fact that to me what it showed was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   that he was sort of sentimental because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:17   I sort of assumed his office was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:20   on the part of the same structure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:22   we see initially you know the cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:23   storage where the cooling is failed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   like everything sort of wet and dark in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:28   my mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:29   his office is not far from the place in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:33   cold storage where we find him having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:34   drink with old building episode 1 as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   they drink to the lady with the white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:37   shoes and so I serve for me that felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:41   like one of the things that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43   point out as he's a good guy because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:46   didn't ever bother to move upstairs when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48   they went when they assume expanded at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50   some point and you know the building got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52   taller or you know any of that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54   like he stayed sort of down there where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:56   it started and he doesn't have any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:59   that stuff in his office like I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01   he literally is giving Bernard the scoop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:05   on Arnold at one point as he stands in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:08   front of a chalkboard that's written on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:11   with like recent stuff because like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   reverie stuff is like mapped out in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15   flow chart on a chalkboard in this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:19   this world where I'm sure everyone of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21   at one point we were one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   computers that unfolds when I take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:25   out of my pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:26   you know I know Don and I talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:29   that like every single yeah good i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31   gonna have cracked a provision crisis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33   right now that you could be yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35   you don't even have to try very hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:36   apparently being around a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:39   development centers and and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   that in the software world his office to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:44   me you know just reeks of being a nerd i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:49   mean the things he had around him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   the fact that there were no windows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:52   blade has a lot of like museum quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   to it right like it's there all this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:57   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:58   the other thing is I get the feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1498">TS</a>]

00:24:59   that I mean he obviously spent a decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:00   i'm walking around with supervising the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:03   work that's being done but I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:04   the storytellers for westworld third in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:06   the in the park probably wouldn't super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:08   enjoy like walking around or observing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10   remotely what the guests are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   because it's basically like their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:13   stories get fouled up like you know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15   eighty percent of the time because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17   know that the guest is new in town and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:18   they want to shoot somebody instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   talking to them and finding out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:21   their quest is it going on the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:22   that would be really frustrating just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:23   like probably you don't want to uh sit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   and watch people use software that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27   developed because you get really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:28   frustrated with an efficient they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:31   be all that is so true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33   you have not be the the writer as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:34   annoying is that writer is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   there's some let's talk about the we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:39   already sorted into it the the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41   aspect of it the behind-the-scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:42   aspect of which i kinda wasn't expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44   I thought that would be much more kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:45   of finessed of like well suffice to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   it's magic happens but instead we see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:50   them talking we see Bernard and LC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   talking about it we see the the writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:56   least Sizemore whine about it and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:59   says at one point in a conversation with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01   maybe Teresa where he talks about how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:03   come up with these great things and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:05   you know I have to do all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:07   different branches and I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:08   was really interesting about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:09   talking about like how do you script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11   this world they didn't they they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13   gave it more attention it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15   they explained all of how it works but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   they gave him more attention than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   expected and I thought it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:20   interesting to see that that aspect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:23   it you know be the the branching of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:26   dialogue when we see into into the mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:30   of the host and how they have their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:31   conversations and how their scripts for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   that and the people who are working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:36   the software patches the fact that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:37   got this idea of like rolling people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   back to a previous version is all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   kind of like software terminology that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   happening about the minds of the host I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   i really love that aspect and that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   real surprise to me that that we spent a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49   lot of time with sort of the technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   of the mind and the scripting of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:54   Westworld unlike most sci-fi shows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   do AI they didn't it wasn't like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:59   know like how 9000 or were fascinated by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01   the idea that machines can think instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:04   all the computer stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   well a blessedly was far future enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   where we can just we can we have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:09   of it is Magic as well like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   super advanced right but be it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   treated as game development if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:14   anything my game development we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16   talking like a bunch of game together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:17   it's not like a bunch of people building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19   how 9000 it's all about you know grew in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:22   your story lines versus player action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   versus liking the resilient tweaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:25   parameters and letting them go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:26   these game loops like and which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:29   refreshing change because normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:30   anything having to do with thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:31   computers it's all about deep thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   about how these computer there's plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35   of that in West world to but totally the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   people running the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:38   there there it's a game their game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40   developers yeah I had a lot of red dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:41   redemption fields while watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:44   uh-huh no man in black is bored because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46   he's played every every inch of the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:48   yeah trying to get he's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   collect all the gyms now right to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:51   his bonus he's basically been using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53   cheat codes right and then he wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55   play the real game that's actually gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:56   be hard for him and the poor rider like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   when you got the new speech for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1678">TS</a>]

00:27:59   protector to give at the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01   thing and it's like when you have a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03   and this be and this is a big cut scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:04   and you walk away from it like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   open-world game you walk outside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:07   audio radius and it's like and now i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09   not interested in the writers like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:10   but this is the pivotal moment ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:13   over here and dig in the dirt help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15   actually John something that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:16   mentioned that i wanted to i want to rip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18   on a little bit is I think you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20   argue and and nobody's gonna argue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:23   the hosts are not emerging into being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:26   thinking beings of some kind of at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   i think very few people would argue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:29   because what are we watching otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   but what I like about the show is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   it challenges your assumptions all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:36   way through episode 10 about whether the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:39   hosts whether everything the host do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:43   emergent and because they're free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:46   thinkers or whether they are they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:49   operating on their programming and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51   example in episode 10 is that Maeve is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:54   shown a script that she's been given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:56   that describes her rebellion and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:59   sequences of it and highways at several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:02   points have houston we have moments like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:03   that right where you're like wait a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05   second so our am I seeing the legitimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07   person who is emerging from this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:10   host or is this part of the script and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:14   right down to the fact that the uprising [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:15   has revealed at the end of episode 10 by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   Ford is his new narrative it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19   wait a second are the uprising because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:22   he's giving the ability for them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   repeal or they are the rising up because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26   he written a rebellion well it is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:29   really a difference like that's the i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31   know right the question wasn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:33   difference but like they do they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:34   highlighted the very end with Maeve they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:37   I mean like the show the show is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   remarkable to me in the number of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:42   that it puts legit solid non misleading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:46   information in the show like episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:49   and episodes ahead like 56 episodes as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   they don't put just like vague hints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   that you can just go back and and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:54   all I see how that connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:55   they put like actual real information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:56   actionable information that's why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:58   whole internet figured out so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1798">TS</a>]

00:29:59   things yes and so on episode 10 they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:02   that thing oh may be surprised to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04   that are all escape has been planned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:05   right but in that scene they purposely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:08   tell you into this unit you recruit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   people you get you're gonna get on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:11   train and when you get to the mainland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13   yada yada yada and she cuts them off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   then they show her at the end she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17   deviates from that is exactly right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:20   script was you get on the train and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:21   the show is very explicitly saying even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:24   though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:25   yeah the reveal here is that everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27   has been planned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29   we're going to show you except for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   last part where maybe it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:32   different and you may think oh that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34   means maybe is deciding on her own but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:36   like every single other story in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:38   park it can be interrupted by the human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   players and so Felix gives her a note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   and she decides to get off the train [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:43   just like Hector getting shot in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   head before I can give a speech I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:46   to talk a second about about this notion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   that the telling stories because i took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:50   a there's something more dangerous and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   someone takes a meditation class I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:53   realize what a good insight meditation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   class few years ago and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   things the instructor talked about a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58   was stories we tell ourselves about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   we're doing that our stories we layer on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:03   top of the don't necessary have a direct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:06   relationship what we're doing but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:07   tell ourselves they do and I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:08   watching the show and local a Nolan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:11   enjoyed maybe their insight meditation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:12   people because they're talking from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14   book but be a lot of it is about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:17   story the man in black and it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:18   stories we tell ourselves with the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20   notion that the host when I saw me when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:22   she's watching her words play out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:24   front of her as she's saying them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26   mine to that error state i thought this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:28   is exactly the breaking out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30   monkey mind thing that they talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:31   meditation about getting the monkey mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33   to stop talking at you so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:35   achieve higher insight and stop telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:38   these stories about yourself and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:39   just it was beautifully exploded there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   without adding two they didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42   someone coming to well meditation human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:45   not like I'm doing right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:46   they let us explore and see that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   it's it's interesting to see the man in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50   black and forward and the stories they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52   tell themselves and how that conflicts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   with the story you can see in them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   his is a spoiled child who who doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:59   want anyone else playing with his toys & [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01   and that was what I took from his the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03   final rebellion he clearly knew the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:06   board was trying to force them out he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:07   clearly knew he only had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   so much time so my view of the ending is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:12   that he basically is like well if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   can't have this you can either so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:15   going to smash all my toys & and use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:18   them to hurt you because that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   was his childhood but he was a toning I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   mean like it there so dangle laughs I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24   don't know I know she was telling I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26   think he was telling himself he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:28   toning he he knew he had to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:31   monster to get his creations to the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:33   point of true consciousness and he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:36   to pay for that I think he thought he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   was atoning I think that's what he told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   himself but really he just wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:43   in control he didn't want his creations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45   to really get to the point of full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:46   consciousness on their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48   he wanted to be the one who gave them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:49   that gift so that he could go out as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:52   God as the guy calling the shots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:55   controlling the story i'm with Nathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   and same with the man in black the men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   in black says you know I was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   get them to fight back he he thinks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   himself as this hero who is giving this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:05   great gift to the robots he is by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:08   brutally torturing them for his own sick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   jollies he is actually liberating them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:13   but no he's just a scorned adolescence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   hehe thinks when he was William he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:19   thought that Delores was his prize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   if he won westworld Dolores would be his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   prize and then he realized she wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   his prize that she you know maybe she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:27   wasn't autonomous but she didn't belong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   to him and he got angry and he started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   taking that on dolores and everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   around him just like you see with a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   of 20-something gamers and so he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:38   basically just acting out and all of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40   board meanderings around the park and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42   torturing people and blowing stuff up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44   it's just him throwing a fit for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:47   rest of his life because he wanted the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   shiny woman prize and he didn't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51   that's my theory i'm with you on the man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:53   in black but anybody with for like man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   Michael example is absolutely what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   want his stories the stories telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:58   himself what we see him doing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00   think he took turns too much on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:01   diamond a few places we don't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03   developed enough because they're too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:05   busy hiding twist for most diseases and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   put forward I really believe that put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   the way Anthony Hopkins plated and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:10   few things he has that that he his he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:14   was sincerely motor the story tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:16   himself is the average story it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:17   story of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:18   a man who has done terrible things he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   does not think much of himself but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   nevertheless still believes and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:23   is smarter than most everyone around him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   bringing a plan to fruition to both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:30   atone for his past sins and right his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32   wrongs and tried with some finality to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:36   you know he's got he gets got the blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:37   sacrifice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:38   he's setting the stage for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:41   things that he's done wrong to correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:42   themselves and everything he says in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:45   show I I'm i think he believes about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   the hostess and humans are really no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   different from each other and when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:50   said give that speech that somewhere in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52   the middle it's like you think he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:53   saying it to show how little he thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55   of humans but by the end you realize he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:56   should say to say how much he thinks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:58   hosts in fact when he says that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2098">TS</a>]

00:34:59   better it's not a sarcastic evil thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   to put down humans he really believes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:04   so I'm with you man with lieutenant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:06   green I take forward to face value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   that's fair enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:08   I like that there's debt ambiguity there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   that I can have my interpretation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:13   you can have yours and yours sounds just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   as valid to me as mine so I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   about the show for me there's a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:20   it that we don't that we we haven't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22   considered at least even on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:25   anyway um and that is I sort of felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:28   like at once and now that we know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:31   happened to Arnold not Bernard but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:34   Arnold now that we know what happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36   Arnold we've seen the ending of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38   story I feel like this was almost make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:42   him trying to give a gift back to Arnold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:47   because remember our gave him a gift of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49   here is your family like the the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52   moment your you have and and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:57   i'm gonna give you I'm going to preserve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59   that moment for you i'm gonna put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:00   right here in the park in a little house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:01   and nobody's gonna be able to tell and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03   and we'll make sure it's like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:04   little secret I built you a dad that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:07   remember or whatever and then I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:10   like a little bit like he you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:13   because he mentioned a few times like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:15   Arnold came to feel the way you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:17   Arnold came at this from a different way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19   whatever and I think that that he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:22   sort of trying to atone to Arnold I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:25   like he feels like he needs to do it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:28   Arnolds name almost that he needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30   able to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:31   sort of settle what he believes to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:34   the score that he has with Arnold and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   sort of tried to to you know get the red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   out of his ledger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   so I to me that was that was more what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:43   it felt like was that that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   humanitarian piece of it the piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   humanity within for that we hadn't seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49   was how truly profoundly he had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:53   affected by Arnold dying i like um when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:57   Nathan said about how you can really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59   interpret this either way and I'm struck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:01   by something John said which is that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   he thinks that you know forward this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:06   what forward believes and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:08   right i think he does believe it i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:12   sure if that's actually the case and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:14   that it isn't you know he that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:15   story he tells himself when he's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17   just kind of being a jerk who wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:20   have complete control over everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:21   that jerk and he likes best thing people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23   but I believe it too like I believe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:26   basically he's he strikes me as sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   throughout the whole series that he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:29   not you know lording it over to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:32   and being smarter and controlling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:34   whole time he doesn't like who he is or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:37   how things have turned out and he is sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:38   i think I'm team Nathan on this but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:40   want to go to Tony because Tony Tony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:41   proclaimed his his being on underneath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43   inside on forward here to Tony I I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:46   maybe I can just never be sympathetic to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   eat you know rich white powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:51   industrialist guy who I I almost going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:53   to say evil in there I guess that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:54   contention is is he evil or not but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56   mean I guess it depends on how you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:59   his his last scene there but I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:00   mean I just see it is the culmination of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:03   him basically setting into motion his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:07   own pretentious suicide where he even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09   gives the speech about how the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11   composer's that did that don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:12   die because they live on in their music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   and he's like and I'm going to live on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:15   in my killer robot is his speech it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:18   gives it a title right he's got a title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   for it and is a press conference at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   beach why does he have to do all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:25   yeah if he is not a warped and twisted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27   self-absorbed you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:30   yeah I I mean and and I guess that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:33   the question is is what stuff is is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:36   I'm interested to know what will happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:39   at the start of season 2 in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:40   what will give us information about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42   what stuff is things that are eggs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   actually as he laid them out versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   actual freedom that he is granted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:49   because that's that's still the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:50   to me is how much what I mean is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   actual of any freedom here or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:53   everybody just doing things that he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   set in motion I'm gonna bring up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   something that John staircases said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:58   that's relevant but very briefly which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   is just like John said they laid into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   any breadcrumbs where we could see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04   it wasn't you know they were barely know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:05   there's all over the lawn and we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07   figure out which they are we saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09   forwards family right we sighs house we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   saw him as a young man we saw his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13   abusive father we saw forward tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15   Bernard that he'd sort of toned father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   down like out of kindness Arnold had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   made the father not quite as bad as he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:22   well that's right so like so many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:25   we seat for is reliving his childhood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   like how much time you spend in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:29   ecology seems to be there a lot its kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:31   of creepy right and we know that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:32   the basement lab but he's constantly are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:36   constantly on some matter reliving in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   arnold at some level made a trap for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40   Ford by building for his childhood and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   not allowing foot forward ever destroy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   his childhood not really for it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   fascinating character right i mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48   that's the bottom line here is these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:49   complex in it we can question his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   motivations right to the end of his last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:54   gesture for me having a front-row seat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:57   at the fort of our generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:00   steve jobs that there were a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:03   things that reminds me a lot of essays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:06   last year you know when he knew that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:09   was going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:10   it was very very striking me people you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:13   know you look at some things on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:15   surface of what they do and they seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17   selfish and self-serving and they might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   seem grandiose but in the end they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:25   really are done for the right reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:28   and so i will give Ford a pass just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:33   that last half an hour he had on earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:36   of doing the right thing so but but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:40   released it really hit home with me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:42   a very very personal note there of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:45   having the opportunity a couple times to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:47   be up close to people like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   let's not go too far with the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   things he did send a what it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:52   a large number of killer robots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:54   different people so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:55   angel like writing for the end he he did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:58   he did have a woman murdered several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:00   episodes earlier to make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:01   nothing got his way sending like an army [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:04   of killer Roman tell us about apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06   products on this is just and again not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   too far off from some of the flowers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:11   well we're all gonna get killed our way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   those top 100 meetings are must've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:16   you have no idea that you have to answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18   this question if we ask it how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:19   killer robots you have in your house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:21   right now around just blink once if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:23   there are more than one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:24   yeah all right Don his team killer robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:27   it's good to know that that's important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:28   to establish know that the the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:30   you have to ask yourself about the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:33   know the sort of theme of the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:34   whole show is that the robot who becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:37   finally self where and listens to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:40   own inner voice and her own inner voices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:42   telling her to be a homicidal mainline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:44   that's a pretty pretty funny you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:49   journey she's got Y and mixed in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   too it's it's a heavy stew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   yes toxic else do and i wanted to a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:56   shift gears a little bit and talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   one of the other I mean it's an HBO show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   right so you can know you can get a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   of violence you can get a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:03   language and you can get a lot of nudity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05   now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:06   westworld has a lot of nudity but what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08   fascinating about it is it is mostly yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:12   on like robots that are nude and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14   repair shop in the blue corner office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:16   cold blue lighting and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:19   and and you know the nudity in West [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:22   world starts out you may be asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:25   yourself like oh well it's HBO of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   there's gonna be nudity and very rapidly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   becomes a fascinating choice of how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31   did depicted I wanted to know if Nathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:35   said that he wanted to talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:37   Nathan you have something you'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:38   say about this one when you go into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   HBO show you expect naked ladies you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   expect a lot of naked ladies and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   expect them to be very very naked and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:47   love that westworld inverts that I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:50   that westworld after the first few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52   episodes whenever you there's a naked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:54   lady in a scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56   chances are she is the most powerful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   dangerous person in the room maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00   sitting there and whenever you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:03   maybe can be perfectly naked and Felix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:04   and Sylvester can be there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   ostensibly they're the technicians and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:07   they have all the power but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   clear from her body language from her an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   effect and from the way they react or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:13   May has all the power and then you get I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:16   forget her name but ingrid bolso a bear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18   doll that awesome awesome ingrid bolso [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20   bear doll whose name I'm probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:22   mangling armistice right Armus Armus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:24   yeah yeah when she's completely naked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26   and beating the only living crud out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:29   multiple technicians and deservedly so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:32   and then is doing those countless tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:35   hilarious things like poking at Felix's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:37   hair curiously or things like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:40   is just absolutely terrifying they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:43   a point that you can't treat these women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45   like eye candy there not there for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47   to ogle at its not sexualize duty in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49   other words exactly one of the things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51   liked about it was that it seemed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53   little more fair i have sat through more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:56   than my share of topless ladies on HBO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2636">TS</a>]

00:44:01   shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:01   yeah and so it was nice to see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:04   dudes that weren't wearing any clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06   mostly let you know straight up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   interest of fairness it was because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:09   particularly the way they were handling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   the nudity it wasn't sexy it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:14   naughty time it wasn't pants-off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   dance-off it wasn't anything like fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:19   it was just like they're naked so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:23   can tell they're the they're the robots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   yeah it's a power hitter for you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27   it stands to reason that there are gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:30   be some guy robots and it stands to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32   reason that if you make them all be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:33   naked when they're in the shop so to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:35   speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:36   this is what you know you're gonna see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   some so I liked it for being realistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:43   in that way and pharmacists gate had by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   the way that my favorite moment in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47   episode 10 and it was when she gets the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49   automatic weapon and she laughs that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:52   laugh oh yeah she laughed a laugh of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:55   such joy and love i hope i have ever in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57   my life like anything that much and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:00   enjoyed it because boy did she enjoy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   did enjoy shooting helps keeps losing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   off it was awesome to watch her enjoy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:07   wasn't like I i wasn't really jazzed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:10   about her like killing all those people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:11   but it was pretty amazing to watch her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:13   enjoy the way that she did but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:16   dehumanization was interesting too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18   because forwards insistence the I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20   thought when the show started at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22   this is creepy that they're always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:23   having all the hosts naked they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:25   always seem to be prodding them and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:27   that scene was in the episode three or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29   four the scary surprise yet Ford turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:32   the technicians the middle of something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34   else returns and why do you have quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:35   covered you know and they take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37   exacto knife or scalpel and slams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:39   graphic designer investment exactly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   slashing his face and I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   the most unkind most demeaning thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   we've seen forward do because he had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:48   certain amount of respect yes because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:50   you're respected at that point you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:51   he respects them as as a work that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:54   created and you know I respect him as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   piece of craft and I was horrified by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2756">TS</a>]

00:46:00   that I'm not sure that scene worked for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:03   me in terms of his character but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:04   i'm still integrating what it means but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06   they that I thought we were this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08   is nolan enjoy making us collaborators [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10   we're watching a show about extensible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12   robots for watching the nudity were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   uncomfortable with that we have a proxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16   was also uncomfortable with it he covers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:18   and forces no no it's not that easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20   pulling the cover way you viewer have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   watch this now complicit in what we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   doing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:25   yeah the meta storytelling in the show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27   was awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:30   it's a show about writing a shadow yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   yeah it clearly clearly at several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:35   points is and you know right and you end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37   up with like a play within a play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:38   because westworld kind of a play within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40   a play but then we find out that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:41   know the plot of the show westworld is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:44   kind of a play within a play itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   which is great and and there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48   question of I mean not not to get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50   free will or something like that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:52   listen to John podcast with Merlin when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:54   they talk about that but the idea of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56   scripted reactions and that question of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58   like is this a natural reaction is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00   scripted reaction and doesn't matter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02   are they making decisions and it yes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   much of it is very meta and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06   carefully considered I like that about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08   it's like you can be met but I felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:10   every move that the show made was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:14   seriously thought out in advance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:18   made knowingly which isn't always the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:21   yes it's so weird a show that has about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   that's the edge TV show any kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   writer who is unsympathetic for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:28   reason in Sizemore gets so forward is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   the sympathetic writer but then we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   all these complicated feelings about him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:33   Sizemore is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:34   the unsympathetic later we eat the sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   sympathetic busy so human though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   yes his concerns are so Petty and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   it's such a such a small scale they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42   really important to him but we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   watching the show were like dude you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:45   not even in the game you're just down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:46   there complaining about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:47   honestly and red river he's got his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:49   little corner for it is the showrunner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:51   and Sizemore is the staff writer right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:55   that's what I just about because because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57   because I Sizemore thinks he is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59   showrunner but likes it forward for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:01   is the writer of the series that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:02   watch the video you're watching me and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04   realized that Ford has plotted out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   entire first season we don't we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   know that we're watching it but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   end the story that we see is for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   most part his story and then the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   writer is writing these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:15   adventures that the humans are doing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   their parking getting all cranky about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:18   it and angling for positions in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   corporate world that's totally not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22   matter although it's nice that he lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:23   because he's down there in the empty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:24   seller looking for the robots that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26   aren't there other than everyone else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:28   gonna get shot by the robots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:30   yeah this all these ideas are going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:31   opens up his idea fault they're all gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33   yeah what one of the moments that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35   Sizemore gets there at the end I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:36   I'd that it's easy to miss is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38   there's a so there's a lot of threads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:39   that are dangling that are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   presumably resolved in season 2 or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:42   least continued in season two one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   them is this idea that the board knowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46   that they're going to fire forward is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   trying to get the source code basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:51   the park out before forward can wreck it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53   and they stow it in a in a host who's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:58   cold storage so and Sizemore supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:01   get him to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:02   he's programmed him to behave kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:04   like a regular person to get them on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06   train out of out of and ironically of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:09   course there is a host on the train it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   not this guy but he goes there and find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13   there's just that one shot of going and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15   opening cold storage and finding there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:16   nothing inside and he goes what and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:20   that's it wouldn't Sizemore or Charlotte [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:24   Gail know that if you do that with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:27   host they would explode the the sixth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:31   cervical vertebra would explode i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   gonna make a trip that part out or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:34   deactivated I mean they have all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   tools together the people the body shop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:37   maybe the only way they can do is make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   new one without that vertebrae but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:40   people who run the show so i can disable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42   it and even if it does blow up then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   can still just take the brain that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46   that right yeah where he only needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48   make it to the train like we don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:49   you know or HQ or whatever like we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:51   we don't know exactly what you are this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:55   is the kind of crap you have to do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   you have to do when you can't find a USB [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59   Drive see that's what security have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:02   thumbdrive need all head pops off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04   there's a USB part of the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:06   question is the host that they chose to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   be the flash drive is Abernathy prime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:11   yeah the first Dolores is dad that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:14   see on the show you what the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:17   to break the one who finds the picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:18   of who I presume grew up to be Williams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:21   white have science and so we get 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23   episode 9 where Bernard explains that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:29   they put Clementine in storage but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:33   they didn't fix anything when they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:36   her there so she still has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:38   capability to pull the trigger and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:40   some damage if he gives her the high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:44   sign right and I wondered if Abernathy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:47   prime was in the same position and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:51   they picked like the worst possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:53   hosting cold storage to be the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:56   because we know you know we know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   any host can go at any moment and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   know he was like in the show order he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:03   was the first one to go and he used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:05   play a psychotic desert leader earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:07   play yeah the leader of the cannibal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:09   cult is law of conservation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   characters though I mean they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:12   going to have one of the extras be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   one that they put the secret plans in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:15   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:16   I thought that Maeve maybe it's somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   they had chosen made and they were using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   her to smuggle stuff out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   oh yeah at a certain point though you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:23   figured ellis got to realize for its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:26   plan is not to destroy all the source [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   codes are all efforts to smuggle her out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:29   of stupid yeah we find out what for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   actual plans which is way worse for them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:32   this knowledge of partying right like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:35   thought he was going to lead us or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:36   something oh he's gonna kill us all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   robots that's ok we'll always have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:39   samurai world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:40   yep yeah i was saying about the casting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:43   call though for the cold-storage like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:44   okay we need to come out to be naked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46   I assume some of that might be CGI of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   course EG but we would be naked standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:51   in a cult-like dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:52   dark warehouse standing in water for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:55   probably several hours a day for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:56   couple weeks we need you to stand in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:58   puddle in the dark under the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:00   flattering possible lading like all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:03   it's worth lunch will be provided and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:04   don't move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:05   yeah and I guarantee ya they had people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:08   standing in line and returned away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   the job that absolutely they were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:13   were talking earlier about the the meta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:14   aspect of the show and when the board is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16   talking about about taking over for its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:19   narrative they're like you know don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:20   make it too complex kind of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   simplify it make it more entertaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24   for people i'm thinking Jonathan Nolan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26   is flashing back to his time on person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28   of interest isn't even this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:31   executives say right I've got some notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33   they say i would also like to say I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35   think that this is also a show about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:37   watching television [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:38   I think I know that the whole point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:41   the thing is the maze and the man in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:43   black is pursuing the maze he's looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:45   for that trick he's looking for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:46   reveal that the twist in the game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:49   people keep telling him it's not for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51   that's not the point of the game for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53   and he doesn't get that is how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   times he told that on the show like 900 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   times and he never gets a terroristic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59   skull exactly you a way to you saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   amazing for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:02   mm we think on this and so everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   well he's rich so he thinks everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   is for him whether people tell me those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:08   aren't things for him yeah Nathan you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:09   need to go until all the people and read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:11   at the story yes exactly and that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:13   thing i got all the people on reddit all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:15   the theorizing I've seen you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   Bernard android what what is the role of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19   the ghost nation are there multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:21   timelines is William the men in black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23   Jonathan Nolan must have anticipated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25   that at least enjoy must have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27   anticipated that and I think they put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29   the maze to say guys guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:30   you're missing the point it's not about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   the twist it's not about the tricks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:33   it's about the search for consciousness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:36   that's what the shows about the tricks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   and things are just window dressing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   i love that aspect yeah but though the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   sling people along that way this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:44   show that that sort of forces you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:47   take it seriously in forces you to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:48   attention and presumes that you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51   certain level of understanding and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:55   comprehension whatever that is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:58   for me what was really great about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00   was that I was forced to pay attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:02   and I don't watch a whole lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:05   television because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:06   don't like TV where you tell me what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:10   going to happen for the next hour in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:12   first five minutes of the show and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:15   don't want to see it coming and in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:17   like the only way I want to see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19   coming is when i see it coming about 90 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:20   seconds before it actually shows up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   I was gone last night when we recorded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   our initial reaction show our quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:27   initial reaction show 4 episode 10 which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:30   was 45 minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:31   um that when you know that the train has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:35   left the station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   you seem that happen and now you see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   car stopped on the tracks you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:42   waiting for the light to change or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:43   whatever when you know those two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:45   and now the tension is oh god I know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:49   of this what's gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51   that's the kind of show i like to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53   and so for me it was really exciting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55   see somebody put out this intelligent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57   show and go it's intelligent and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3297">TS</a>]

00:55:00   gonna leave a little breadcrumbs about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:01   other stuff that's gonna happen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03   maybe you'll catch them and maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:04   want and I really liked how they kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:07   everybody up to speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09   even when you know even on like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:12   reddit had figured it out already or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   whatever um being able to make sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16   people who weren't paying attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:18   message boards and people who don't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:19   all the theory stuff were capped engaged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:22   and yet also people who did go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   her eyes about all that stuff and did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26   you know think about it in their spare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   time and randomly text at nerd retired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:31   friends of theirs who don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:32   anything else to do and say you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   was talking about this and what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:35   if that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:36   hey you know I've heard um like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:40   are the kind of things that i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   enjoyed about this show because i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44   liked that they were sort of upfront [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:45   about being an intelligent pieces of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:48   cinema for me because that's what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:51   and i really enjoyed getting to watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:54   i also love that it was all those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:55   and it was just a great western [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57   westworld gives good Western you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:59   Indian attacks you've got an armored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:01   train you've got robberies and twists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:04   and shootouts that amazing sequence with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:06   the men in black tied up to his horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:08   and having to cut himself free before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:10   the horse hangs in there i just love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12   that it was a satisfying Western in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14   addition to being all those other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16   so I I want to talk a little bit about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:19   expectations for season two but before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:20   we get there there's one other point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   that I wanted to to have us well on for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24   a moment which is the cast because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:27   are some people we haven't even talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:28   about we've talked about Anthony Hopkins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:29   who does a great job and Harris is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31   man in black and jimmi simpson as his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:34   younger counterpart is an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:35   character but also evan rachel wood is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37   Dolores we haven't really talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39   it all and and thandie newton as maid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:42   who initially you think it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:44   kind of part of the part of the ensemble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:46   and then becomes pivotal as the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:49   goes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:49   jeffrey wright james marsden it's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:51   great cast the woman whose whose name I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:54   can't pronounce who plays Teresa is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56   really interesting actress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:58   it's just it's an amazing cast of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:00   what is so good I almost don't single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02   her out because her performance is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:04   perfect that it's it's funny it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:08   part of the it's such an integral part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:10   of the show she almost doesn't stand out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:12   for a good she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:13   yeah there's there are no weak links in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:16   this cast i was really surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:17   pleasantly by tested thompson who had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19   heard about but hadn't seen before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21   then Jeffrey right i mean this is a man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:23   who can steal the scene right out from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:25   under al pacino if you've ever seen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   angels in america he he wipes the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:30   the floor with Al Pacino in a monologue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:31   that once you've seen it you'll never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:32   forget it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:33   I'd watch jeffrey wright read the phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35   book and if you've got to have somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:36   to stand up to anthony hopkins you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38   Jeffrey right thing he has a heart for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40   the record jeffrey wright is playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:42   essentially the same character I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:44   he was playing in source code but it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:46   good character and I liked that movie so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48   it's fine i saw jeffrey wright with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:49   glasses on and I'm like oh I get it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   get what he's doing here and there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   way more there that's exactly what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   thought when I first night it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57   thing it's like I'm sort of in charge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:58   people who are technical and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   secret and like a yeah okay I've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   Jeff reading this before but he's he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:04   the person who really surprised me and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:07   just didn't know she was that good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:08   actress was because I know Tandy Newton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:12   is a great actress you seem crash or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14   something like that but Evan Rachel Wood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:16   yeah who knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:19   yes she could do that oh my god that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:22   last scene where she's talking to why it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24   and it's just two completely different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:27   people who happen to be the same actress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:29   that's Tatiana maslany level stuff right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:32   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:32   oh yeah just to get you creeping up over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   the back of your chair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36   I mean I expect great performances from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   anthony hopkins and Ed Harris and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:41   people like jamie Simpson you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   because they there are no names but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:44   unless you've seen across the universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:47   and maybe a few weird commercials here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:50   and there you've never seen Rachel evan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:53   rachel wood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:54   no I never had expectations / because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:55   don't think that senior anything before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   so she just seemed like an expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3537">TS</a>]

00:59:00   level of phenomenal yeah it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   delighted and seeing her in that opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   scene with the fly crawling across her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:09   face she was the star of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:11   episode like it but especially of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   part of the blood on her face and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:14   everything and she's young she's in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16   emotions off mode and they asked her to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:17   tell her about your tell me about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:19   world and the small comes back in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:20   faces says this world like she always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:23   carries get to repeat this kind of a fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   thing to do kind of a carbon black style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:26   they get to repeat the same actions in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:29   the same lines multiple times each time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:31   with the they know that the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33   knows more about themselves and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:35   that like they give slightly different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:37   performances but every time they they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39   the same loop groundhog day is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:41   style yet taken takes on a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:43   meaning and I think a lot of evan rachel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:45   wood in the beginning it's like oh she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:47   playing the perfect farmer's daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:48   wishes who she's supposed to play in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:50   world and with her slapping the flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:51   her neck after so when I was like oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   gotta watch out for that one but as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55   season wore on let's see the moronic ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:58   well maybe I was wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   well maybe I was wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   wrong about that because I see they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:01   doing made storyline and she just mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3601">TS</a>]

01:00:02   seems confused and you know and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:05   like she wasn't she wasn't becoming like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:07   the dangerous leader of the robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:09   rebellion until the end and then I by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:11   the end of it like you're so used to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:13   being the farmer's daughter and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:15   know she means well and everyone she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17   opened up a can of whoop-ass on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:19   episode 5 contrapposto for she's with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:22   William anyway you can just get their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24   pants on set up her skirt and she's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:26   her gun and all the stuff like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:27   you know you know that's in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:29   eventually like for her character to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:31   turn to the end to be to be such as to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:33   become like that was such a great climax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:36   of thing and the actress pulled it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:37   like she knew I believed her as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:40   scary dangerous eventual leader of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:43   whole thing and it's to do that after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:45   all right when she comes up behind Teddy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47   and says it's ok it's gonna be ok tedi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:50   yeah it's not just our world not theirs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:53   right the moment uh in episode one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:56   is the thing that they hang on every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:59   major wood and dolores that you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:00   remember the rest of the show is there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:03   a great little bit of its world building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:07   but it also shows you the levels of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:10   programming in these on these house is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:13   actually tell her to cut out the accent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15   right and she goes from having that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:18   of country accent to being a completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20   aspect lists kind of sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   generic accent and it's 70 like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24   no she says no no no yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:27   romantic right everything you do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:29   since had such a strange strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31   treatment and all the actors are all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   ones who are playing house are so very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35   good at being inhuman when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:37   supposed to be in switching right back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:38   to being human is probably exercise that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:40   actors do like you know write it off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:42   turn it back on but now it serves a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44   story purpose actors do accents all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46   time too but but in the CIA in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48   you see it you're like oh you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   that that informs Dolores and it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:51   good performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:52   alright so 10 episodes were over it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:55   done and it's not coming back for a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   so I have to ask before we go where do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3717">TS</a>]

01:02:00   we go from here we saw a glimpse of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:03   samurai world baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05   and we've got a robot uprising happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:07   we see Dolores shoot a bunch of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:10   but we don't see exactly who she shoots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12   which is nice too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   keep your options open obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   adherents the man in black has been shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:17   he's been wing by a by a gunshot from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:19   any saliva and was delighted by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:22   oh yeah so what what what what are your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:24   expectations what what are you curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:25   about what you want to see so in my and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:28   my fondest dreams i hope that the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:31   this show stays fresh cause this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:33   problem like i think season one you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:35   a beautiful tight season which I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:36   they did that you know hat pattern are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:38   conducted and deliver it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:39   satisfying just overall like a beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:42   little gem right it's hard to repeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:44   that because all the things they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:45   revealed already revealed and if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:46   gonna turn this into a show reveals its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48   hard to keep it straight freshdesk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:50   people lost my dream is that the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:53   season somehow involves to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:57   different setting we saw Samurai world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:59   there could be multiple parks i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:01   love season one to be the Old West [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:03   season and season two of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:05   increasingly inappropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:06   inappropriately named westworld to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:07   all about samurais and season 3 to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:10   about ancient Roman season for like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:11   to keep going like to keep it fresh by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:13   changing the setting I that would make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:17   it so it's not just like you're not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:18   watching a Western season after season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:20   after season because that mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:22   problematic in the you know you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:24   imagine that if something goes wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   with the old west park maybe they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28   bury it and build Star Wars land on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30   of it or whatever right like that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:32   way to keep the show fresh my hope is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34   that the show i'm trying to another show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:37   that does this a lot i guess maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:39   100 100 does not get stuck in a rut then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:41   whatever you want to say about the 100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:43   they jumped from promising surrounding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:46   and context and and characters to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:48   next the next to the multiple season so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:50   I was excited by saying summer world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:52   that's what I'm hoping you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:52   realistically speaking i'm assuming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:54   anything happens not coming back so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:56   not gonna make any predictions about oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:57   that wasn't really him it was the host [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:58   version i don't think he's coming back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:00   for another season hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:01   they'll be great plot totally not his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03   mom died for every episode yeah yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05   like but this was a great setup and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:07   seems like the next season i would like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:09   a new setting and i would like the robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:11   rebellion to be forcefully quashed in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:15   way that is disappointing to viewers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:16   only to have a bubble back up and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:19   that all happened in a samurai setting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:20   with new characters like this have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:22   get some new host in the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:24   but after that season one they can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:26   almost anywhere anywhere that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:28   involve anthony hopkins they can go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:29   they have you know if the same crew is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:32   involved and have the same tight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:33   storytelling like that's that's the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35   my my takeaway from season one is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:38   were so careful to build this into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:41   thing that makes sense and I like them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:43   both satisfying the internet fanatics by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:46   putting so many hints in there that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:49   you are fanatic you figured out way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:50   early but also the internet Fornax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:54   necessarily spun off into crazy theories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:56   that didn't make sense and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58   don't ever think you guys are are things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00   make sense they're not fantastical we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:03   not trying to trick you they played fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:05   with all their things and on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:06   side of the people aren't obsessively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:08   reading fan sites and they just they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:09   just kept putting information out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11   episode after episode see this see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:13   see this like four episodes worth of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:15   hints for the man in black and William [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:16   right to bring and then by the time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:18   to the final reveal did the review like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:19   nine times to make sure is everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   getting in matchcover putting the hat on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:23   like and then they have to have him say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:25   the words I am William in some ways like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:27   I find that less satisfying than a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:29   that demands that everybody should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:32   everybody get the one more so that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:34   drop right because those shows are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:36   sometimes fun but they're not fun for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:38   most people because if you missed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:39   morsel then you feel like you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:40   read a fansite 23 what the hell's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42   on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:42   westworld let everybody have that car on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:45   the train tracks and train moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:46   whenever they had that moment it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:48   demand everybody had all the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:50   exactly what happened for my wife you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:52   know she figured it out right before she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:56   watched episode 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:57   yeah and it and any anytime you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:59   that moment as long as it's like as long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:01   as you think of it as being before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:03   quote-unquote reveal it satisfying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:05   because you're mean I had the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:07   I'm like oh i see what they're like with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:09   the split timelines when I had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:10   revelation which was after the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12   but before you know three episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:13   before the quote-unquote real reveal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:15   once i saw that they were doing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:16   this the big smile comes across your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:18   face and then and then after the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20   and frankly going to have to make sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:21   i'm not crazy like no one has it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:24   figured out before hit us the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:26   to find out you're not crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:27   get it get a second opinion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:29   yeah so season 1i think and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:32   that's novel because I guess that most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:34   shows you their don't aren't well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:36   constructed or dishonest with their plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:39   points or like they don't play fair you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:41   know mean they're like a hot we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:42   smarter than you are going to use all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:43   you didn't play fair right or everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:45   has to be equally fantastic allure and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:47   still like the shows the shows they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:49   super subtle and precise and you really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:53   have to pay attention you have to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:54   lot of background knowledge and a one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:56   word phrase said by some person you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:58   to like do you know dig down three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:01   levels of subtext to realize that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:02   just revealed this important plot point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:03   they're never going to revisit it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:05   you just have to understand it and know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:06   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:06   those are satisfying to but West world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:08   was i I can't think of a show that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:10   comfortable in terms of accessibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:12   yeah like being being fair being solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:15   being interesting and also having yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:18   accessible to all levels like it it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:21   like a graceful degradation in a website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:22   it works if you have JavaScript on or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24   off so that's the famous the famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:26   story God that they came up at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:28   television critics association this to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:30   press tour this summer is that they shut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:32   down production on West world after like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:34   three episodes got delayed and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36   people like a troubled production and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:37   what the producer said at the TCA was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:40   actually we got a couple episodes in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:42   realize we didn't have his firm of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44   understanding of the rules of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:46   universe as we thought we needed and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:50   since we're putting a lot of money into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:51   this and HBO's investing in this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:53   obviously you know you don't make a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:55   to go on for one season and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:56   cancelled you the goal here is to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:58   for a while and make a lot of money for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:00   your studio and for HBO and they shut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:02   down production and what they said is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:04   they locked down everything it's like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:07   did they lock down this season and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:09   locked down the future storylines and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:10   they lock down the rules of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:12   and I think it shows i'm gonna i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:14   inclined to believe them that they that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:16   the producers had this moment which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:17   like oh we can't make this thing up as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:19   we go along we really need to get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21   right and so let's pause and do that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:24   you can see it is like from start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:26   finish it feels consistent in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:29   that you know is impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:32   this is a much more satisfying puzzle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:33   box right where yeah i mean that it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:35   you know they give you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:37   a couple pieces and some crazy person on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:39   the internet is going to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:40   conjecture you know enough enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:42   monkeys enough typewriter somebody's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:43   going to put something out that could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:45   the right answer and some people only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:47   need two pieces of the puzzle and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:48   people need seven and some people need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:50   to see the whole puzzle assembled in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:51   front of them but that's it that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:53   good puzzle box is what it fits together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55   not when it's like note we've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:56   faking you out the whole time we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:58   going to do this crazy thing that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4138">TS</a>]

01:08:59   know comes comes out of left field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:01   so Tony Tony is that what you want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:03   want to the puzzle box for a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05   season i would like more puzzle box for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:07   second season i am really curious to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:08   what they're gonna do I i think a change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:11   in setting or maybe a jump forward in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:13   time would be a key to keeping me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:15   interested in having more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:17   questions that they explore what I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:20   think they will do and I hope they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:21   do is like let's do five episodes of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:24   robot uprising and people running and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:25   cutting across the park [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:27   I mean I wouldn't mind up and i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:28   like i can get that somewhere else to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:30   able to put down those robots it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:31   like the only humans the entire world as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:33   far as we know are running the park like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:35   you need to put down a rebellion pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:37   quickly you can even blow their blow all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:39   their spines but not may have sprained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:41   yeah I mean yeah maybe maybe I I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:44   like we don't need to see lengthy robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:47   rebellion that sounds really expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:49   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:49   yeah so I'm i think some kind of jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:52   forward possibly in time and maybe to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:54   another place would be would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:55   interesting so that's I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:57   what I'm looking for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:58   I'm confident enough in these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:00   storytellers that they could keep all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:02   five seasons that they planned right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:04   there in West world because i think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4204">TS</a>]

01:10:06   can tell interesting stories the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:08   location doesn't matter as long as it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:11   interesting and there's drama and I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:15   characters that I care about right now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:18   want to get invested in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:20   I want a little puzzle box but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:22   doesn't have to be quite as intricate as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:24   this season you know but little puzzle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:27   box is nice but I i like the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:30   they they wrapped a bow up on most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:33   things this season and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:35   self-contained I'd like him to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:37   in a second season and what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:39   desperately desperately don't want is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:42   don't want lost or the fourth season of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:45   battlestar galactica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:47   alright Sarafina yeah nobody wanted mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:49   I feel like that there are couple loose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:51   threads from the season but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:52   always think they could just drop they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:54   have a house on yesterday's to lead you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:55   have an X easy if you try everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4255">TS</a>]

01:10:57   literally as you know you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4257">TS</a>]

01:10:59   cancel this pointless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:00   yes plenty of expectations for next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:03   season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:03   there's some seeds that were planted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:05   that we're waiting to see if they bloom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:06   or they just enough time like I it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:08   interesting for a show like this i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:10   know about the production method how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:12   tightly they have to shoot i know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:14   HBO gives them a lot of leeway so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:15   there's things are like did they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:16   actually shoot some bits and they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:19   have that they need four minutes or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4279">TS</a>]

01:11:20   three minutes 30 minutes and they cut it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:22   so like LC and stops we've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24   a lot like the characters were being set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:26   up in early episodes to have some part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4286">TS</a>]

01:11:28   of an arc like to be you know players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:30   and it not movers probably and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4290">TS</a>]

01:11:32   disappeared the ghost station was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:35   of presented as this like arts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:36   Native American trope and they're using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:38   them a certain way although they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:39   incredibly terrifying and there may be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4299">TS</a>]

01:11:43   metaphor for what's to come in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:45   what all the robots are going to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:47   they're all going to be sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:48   those nations completely brutal against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50   what they see as incurring incursions on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:53   their world it's a perfect little you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:54   know subtextual metaphor but i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:57   feeling that we're gonna agree with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:59   lot of people's sentiments I think we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:01   gonna jump forward in time because did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:04   don't think that's going to pick up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:05   doesn't make any sense we're gonna come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:06   back to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:07   we've already seen how much they like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4327">TS</a>]

01:12:08   do in our Laird timelines and how well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:10   they can maintain them all I think LC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:13   and stubs are going to be someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:14   pointed out this is not exactly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:15   spoiler the day Louis website changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:17   the website world website the public one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:19   changed and Elsie's voices on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:21   somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:22   so the idea there is resistance like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:24   my thinking is the whole park is locked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:27   down its we locked up for some period of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:28   time any large part of the season and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:30   will be a subplot about human resistance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:32   inside the remaining guests and QA and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:35   so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:36   who are trying to fight and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4356">TS</a>]

01:12:37   factions of hosts fighting for what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:40   intent is how interesting that can be i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:42   don't know and i made me totally off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:45   base but then as the season progresses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:46   they haven't seen two hearts is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:48   outside world breaks through in and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:51   a whole different ballgame again we find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4371">TS</a>]

01:12:53   out we got information finally about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:54   what's outside the park but i think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:56   will see some breakthrough to other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:57   worlds that I think the semi world was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4377">TS</a>]

01:12:59   hint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:00   wonderful season season 2 they may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:01   planning for later but i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:03   clear that if you're liberating one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:05   world you're gonna liberate all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:06   worlds right yeah yeah i'd like to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4386">TS</a>]

01:13:08   like a political thriller where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:10   world's all become self-aware and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:12   they become sort of like wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:13   nation-states trying to ally with each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:15   other against the outside world but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:17   you know with intrigues among each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:20   that would be pretty cool that factions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4400">TS</a>]

01:13:23   make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:23   Kelly do you have goals for next year I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4403">TS</a>]

01:13:25   do um one of so first of all I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:28   see that this season really strikes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:30   as a masterclass like I i would like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:33   future that people who wish to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:37   interesting engaging television to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:40   basically study this and see all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:44   balance in it where we got bows on some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:47   storylines some of them got buttons and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49   some of them didn't and like what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:51   effect of those things were and how all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:55   of the crazy see rest's were along for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:57   the ride and yet people who didn't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:59   anything on the internet we're along for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:01   the ride and and and like all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03   things that they did where they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:06   able to strike a balance between two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:08   pretty extremes was was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:11   impressive to me and like the the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:15   looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:16   you know you can't fake 35 millimeter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:18   like period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:20   you can't fake putting Soundgarden and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:23   radiohead on a player piano is the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:26   way that you mention that I'm glad you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:28   mentioned that the music in this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:29   this and especially all the radiohead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:31   was great it was really enjoyable the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:34   athan was just saying in our back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:36   channel about Maeve's tour of hell with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:40   fake plastic trees playing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:42   background was amazing it looks like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:44   real thing tastes like the real thing my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:46   fake plastic girl I was just yeah and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:49   exit music from a film at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:51   episode 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:53   with with at the end of the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:55   underscore v of the west-world theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:56   coming back and under it just chills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:58   yeah all's the first line of that song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:01   is wake from your sleep oh yeah like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:04   just start there okay so anybody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:06   not a huge Radiohead fan go check that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:08   out a and the other thing I was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:11   that i am hoping and for the show not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:15   just for the sex for the second season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:16   is um that they have an end in mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:21   whatever that end game might be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4521">TS</a>]

01:15:23   they know how everything ties up because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:27   i really i really need for that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:29   happen I know these are things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:30   we've talked about before but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:32   that's sort of what happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4532">TS</a>]

01:15:33   battlestar galactica and we know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:35   what happened in season three of lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:36   they didn't know how far they were gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:38   go so they sort of took season 3 to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:40   figure it out and I didn't like where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:43   they were going but I i do it like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:45   at least they had an endpoint that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:48   aimed for um we can discuss execution on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:51   another show but like at least they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:53   ended up with one and they executed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:55   if they did damn it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:57   um but like I i like when someone goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4557">TS</a>]

01:16:00   in knowing that this is how much story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:02   they're going is going to be told or at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:03   least how it's going to end so that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:05   know how to get out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:06   one of the things that sticks with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:08   about this season is that that relates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4568">TS</a>]

01:16:11   directly to next season is I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:14   entirely certain that we need to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:16   forward in time at all because we could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:18   also go back remember LC goes to a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:21   that is unused that seems to be sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:24   some sort of cold storage situation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:26   it looks like ren faire world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:28   yeah and one of the things that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:30   interesting was when the doors opened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4590">TS</a>]

01:16:31   and we saw the guy that was like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:35   host that was sort of part of the pillar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4595">TS</a>]

01:16:36   when we get to the samurai world level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:38   and then we see all the samurai in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:42   room in samurai world and i went is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:45   samurai world or something and then her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:48   i think i said Japan world and we saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:50   the logo and it was the ash from the W [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:52   and I went oh my god it's samurai world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:55   and then Felix said it's complicated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:57   my husband said so what level is future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4617">TS</a>]

01:17:00   world and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:02   no go back to that so that's really what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:07   i'm hoping and mostly I was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4627">TS</a>]

01:17:10   excited because I wasn't super deep into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:13   the crazy theory stuff and but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:15   more than a casual viewer and so for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:18   in the middle of the road it was a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4638">TS</a>]

01:17:20   show i had so much fun with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:21   I really loved all of the paying off and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:24   so I almost can forgive them for needing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:28   a year plus to make sure that they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:30   everything right because most i'm at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:33   almost because I'm really antsy to find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:35   out what's next so what I what I hope is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:39   next isn't even season two what I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:41   is the kind of thing that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:43   doing between a couple of seasons for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4663">TS</a>]

01:17:47   lost because lost was a show that ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:49   very early in the year in the TV season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:51   and started very late in the TV season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:53   and so they started doing these arg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:56   games alternate reality games where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:58   could get like weird voicemail messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4678">TS</a>]

01:18:00   from people and the occasional random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:02   email with a secret link in it and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4682">TS</a>]

01:18:04   and on and like now that the world is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:07   much more mobile and so much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:09   connected and so much more into digging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:11   for that stuff i want that i want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:14   able to go like reading newspapers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4694">TS</a>]

01:18:18   updates you know sort of like the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:20   building stuff that they did for Wally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:22   where you could go way down in the by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:25   and large youtube channel and see all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:27   kinds of crazy product videos for stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:29   and I really want to do that you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:31   career in marketing didn't mention i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:35   want that so bad because i want to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:38   it so very much and I really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:40   really hope that's what happens but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:43   know I feel like everybody else like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:44   given the people in front of the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:47   and given the people behind the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:48   whatever comes next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:50   I'm really really looking forward to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4730">TS</a>]

01:18:52   because it's going to be a lot of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4732">TS</a>]

01:18:53   well let the brand extensions begin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:55   because we do have the time we do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:57   the time for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4737">TS</a>]

01:18:58   yeah I'm excited about about when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:01   comes back i look forward to it this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:02   a lot of fun it was a fun ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:04   I my expectations were basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:07   non-existent and I I i was pleasantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:10   surprised throughout enjoyed the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:12   ride and and there's so many different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:14   places to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:15   I'm looking forward to it i'm looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:17   forward to it being a more meta and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:19   weird weird twists and mashups of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:23   present you know the present and past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:25   ropes and stuff like that but we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:28   going to wrap it up here for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:29   episode of the incomparable I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:31   nothing left to do but thank my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:33   wonderful guests for being here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:35   Don melton thank you so much for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4775">TS</a>]

01:19:37   on the uncomfortable good thankyou [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:39   thankyou for letting me barge my way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4779">TS</a>]

01:19:40   into the shower happy that you were here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:42   and I'm glad that you and Kelly get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4782">TS</a>]

01:19:44   do your podcast about West world and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:46   look forward to you guys coming back for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:48   Season 22 how about that you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:51   to wait that long we're gonna do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:52   rewatch yeah oh right I look all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:55   you can get it all at the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:56   comm check it out so Kelly come on thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4796">TS</a>]

01:19:59   you so much for being here thank you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:01   much for having me on my first official [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:02   incomparable piano huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:04   right fleischmann thank you for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:06   here thank you and fries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:08   Jason smartphones but they were frozen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4808">TS</a>]

01:20:10   long ago to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:12   Nathan alderman glad to have you back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:13   again thank you for being here glad to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4813">TS</a>]

01:20:14   be here and now i want to see a version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:16   of jurassic park where I'm rooting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:18   the dinosaurs to eat the humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4818">TS</a>]

01:20:19   oh you weren't in the original a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:22   bit through the Jurassic Park is part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4822">TS</a>]

01:20:23   number three and the the dinosaurs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:26   intelligent that would be could that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:29   concern me just their case thank you i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:31   know things will work out the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:32   they're man to delete accent is a path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:38   for all of us and it leads us back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:40   your Jason and Tony sindelar thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:43   how can you learn from mistakes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:44   don't podcast them all right well that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:48   is that's it for this episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4848">TS</a>]

01:20:50   uncomfortable thanks everybody out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4850">TS</a>]

01:20:52   for listening thanks to my panel we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:53   see you next week bye everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4853">TS</a>]

01:21:00   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYeJGCg/4860">TS</a>]