40: Emotion Palette
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From Relay FM, this is Upgrade episode number 40. Today's show is brought to you by Hover,
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simplified domain management, MailRoute, a secure hosted email service for protection from viruses
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and spam, and Field Notes. I'm not writing it down to remember it later, I'm writing it down
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to remember it now. My name is Myke Curley and I am joined in person live and in San Francisco
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by Mr. Jason Snow. Hi Myke, so this is three times we've done this in person out of 40
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shows now. Once, twice, three times a podcast. Mm-hmm. And I love you. Thank you so much.
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In the words of Lionel Richie. So we are, uh... We're on my turf now. We're out of the British
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Isles. Forget that, this is California baby. So we're what, like an hour or two after the
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keynote has just finished? Yeah, yeah, a couple hours after the keynote we're recording this.
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long keynote today.
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It was a little over. By Google I/O standards it was short, but by Apple keynote standards
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it was a little bit long.
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You were in the room today as we discussed last week.
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So how was it today? Did you take notes? Did you do full on live blogging?
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I took notes. I did, I sent a few tweets, but Dan Morin was sitting right next to me
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and he handled the Six Colors Event account for live blogging, which was great. And I
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I dropped a few tweets here and there,
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but I spent most of the time watching the presentation
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and taking some notes in my own little notes document.
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- And how did that feel?
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- It was a little weird.
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It was good.
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There were moments when I suddenly realized
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I was typing a lot and that that probably meant
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that I was thinking I was live blogging,
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but it was for an audience of one.
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And then I would slow down and say,
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what do I really want to write down here?
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It's, you know, shifting from verbatim note-taking mode
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into what's the big picture,
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leaving myself little notes,
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which is something that I don't normally do
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if I'm live blogging, like this is important,
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this was a surprise, this was, you know,
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a couple points I kind of wanted to emphasize,
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this is important even though
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they didn't make a big deal out of it.
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So that was different.
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- 'Cause last week, you were very much in the impression
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that you weren't gonna do that this time.
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- One big difference is that Dan got into the keynote,
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which we were asking Apple
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if they would consider letting him in, and they did,
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And so, you know, we found that out a little while ago.
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It wasn't today, but --
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And that changed -- That made it very easy for me
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to make the decision to sort of take a step back.
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And that way, I could pay more close attention during the event.
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Then we had -- You know, we ran out afterward,
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got some lunch, and came here to record this,
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and then I will, you know, start writing some stuff.
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And I think that's good.
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I think that's nice.
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-So, I watched the keynote in the hotel,
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in the Park 55, the release notes guys who had the podcast
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and the conference that I'm gonna be speaking at,
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they put on like a viewing and it was great.
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We had a bunch of people there.
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I love watching the keynote with people because it's fun.
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People make jokes, they laugh, they cheer,
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that kind of thing.
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That was a lot of fun.
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- I love watching keynotes with people, Myke.
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- Yep, well you get a special.
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- And I always do because I'm with all the people
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in the room.
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No, you say that and I think it's funny
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'cause it can be a solitary experience
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you're just a person at home watching on the live stream it is way more fun to
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have an audience there. But there's the big one or the small one.
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People are making jokes and stuff like that because I can't I never go on
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Twitter during because it's too much it's impossible to keep up with and I
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can't concentrate on what's happening if I'm watching you know people joking
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around and stuff which is which is admittedly a lot of fun but it I can't
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concentrate and then I get all lost.
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Right I understand that.
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So we should probably just dive in and I figure we'll talk about some of the things that came up today
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but do them in the presentation order as is as you know as we want to do in these scenarios.
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So let's start off with OS X El Capitan. Yes. I hate that name. I just want to put that out there.
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I think it's awkward to say. So why do you yeah so that's why? Is it like Mavericks awkward? I think
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it's more awkward because Mavericks was one word. This is El Capitan. El Capitan. Like that is a
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is a long and awkward thing to say.
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- Four syllables.
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- It looks kinda strange written down.
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So El Capitan is inside of Yosemite National Park, right?
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- El Capitan is a giant granite cliff,
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granite monolith inside Yosemite National Park.
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So this is Apple's equivalent of snow leopard
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or mountain lion by saying it's still essentially
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a Yosemite class operating system.
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- I think that, I don't know enough about Yosemite,
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but I guess they had very limited options
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if they wanted to go that route.
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- Well, they could have called it Half Dome,
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but that's weird.
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- That's much worse.
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Okay, I will accept El Capitan for the reason
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that they chose it, if that makes sense.
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But I just think as a product name,
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it is not a good product name.
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- They could have called it Glacier Point, I suppose,
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or something. - That's nicer.
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That's much nicer. - El Capitan.
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Oh no, it is interesting that it's still a Yosemite theme.
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Maybe that means that we can have that great Yosemite conference again.
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Go back to Yosemite.
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Yeah, so the crown stays in the Sierra Nevadas in Yosemite
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for another upgrade cycle.
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- Experience and performance.
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This seemed to be the mantra of the day.
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Both OS X, they've said that for a--
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they kind of hinted towards that of iOS as well.
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So the experience is a few features, basically a smattering of features,
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and then performance is basically Apple saying,
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"Yes, we are fixing the issues."
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- Yeah, they also use the phrase,
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"Refinements and advances,"
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which I thought was interesting.
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This is their way of saying without saying it.
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We are concerned about speed and stability,
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which are the things that people have been talking about
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with the Mac and with iOS.
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And so they said that, "Refinements and advances,
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speed and stability, ways to make,
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you know, it's not like they're not adding features,
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but the idea that they're trying to make things faster,
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they talked a lot about changing some of the underlying
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technology to make things faster.
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And, you know, I at least choose to read between the lines
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that taking some time just to smooth off
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some of the rough edges is one of the things
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that they're doing as a part of this too,
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although they didn't, it's not like they came out and said,
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we're gonna take a lot of time to fix bugs,
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but I think that's, at least you can read that
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into what they said. If that is what they are doing, I appreciate this. The same with iOS is
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they didn't just do this. There is some stuff here. I think probably the biggest thing that's
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been added to El Capitan is window management. A lot more options for window management. So we have
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an updated mission control. They've made it and also like switching between spaces and stuff like
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that has been made to be performing better. On my retina MacBook Pro that is one of the most
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frustrating things for me. Sometimes I swipe and nothing happens for like a
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second and then I move over. So that's something I'm happy to see that they're
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looking at fixing. I love Mission Control. That is how I use that a lot. I use
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spaces and full screen and stuff like that so I'm happy to see anything change
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there. I thought some of the stuff looked really good like you could drag a window
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up to the top and create a new desktop with it. I thought that was really nice.
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But one of the big things that they're pushing and we'll probably talk about
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about this in another context in a little bit is Split View.
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So there is an app called Moom, is that right?
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M-O-M? - Yeah, Moom, yeah.
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For many tricks.
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- And this is a similar kind of idea in that?
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- Yeah, I mean, Moom is super flexible,
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but the thing is that Moom is a utility by a third party,
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and with this view, you've got the split screen mode
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and all of that, it's in a system, right?
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So Apple has the ability to do things
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that no third party can do.
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And so that's what they've done here.
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Moom lets you set, like put these,
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tile these windows and move this window over there.
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And this is a very much sort of saying,
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I want two apps on the screen at once.
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And you can do that with regular windows,
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but you have to manage them.
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And this is stuff we've seen,
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Microsoft did some of this in Windows 8,
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but it's a nice, like,
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it is very much like mission control
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in that it's about sort of simplifying
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the window management experience.
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and if you're an old school Mac user who just wants to have your Windows where you want
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them you can still do that, but if you're in a, I find myself sometimes in a mode where
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I really just want two apps in front and single window mode won't do that, the full screen
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mode won't do that, and so this is in between full screen mode and the freeform mode, and
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I think that's good.
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- And they made some other enhancements like with Mail, they put some gestures in there
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fine but with full screen you can kind of move the message pane away and then they put
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tabs in the compose message window and stuff like that.
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All those things that frustrate you when you're in full screen mode right? Because full screen
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mode with apps that spawn multiple windows becomes really frustrating because is it sliding
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that new window out? How do you minimize something? How do you switch to a second window if you're
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in the full screen view? That's the thing that drives me out of full screen mode more
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than any other. So they're trying to put in these, in mail they've got these short hands
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now that let you do, actually very much like iOS, let you kind of do some basic management
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of this single window view.
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We have Spotlight. So Spotlight on the Mac has received some enhancements, one of those
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being a lot more natural language stuff, which is quite interesting. So there's some of that
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in there like what's the weather going to be like on Friday and stuff like that, which
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is interesting and again that technology is there but we'll talk about it on iOS, it seems
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to have really come into its own in iOS.
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Yeah I think if you, I think I read something about Google discovering that there's a certain
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percentage of users who talk, who type into Google like they're trying to reason with
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somebody, an actual person, like they don't type and my sister I think is like this, like
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somebody in my family I observed doing a Google search and they were like asking it questions,
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like ask Jeeves or something. They were saying, "How do I find..." Like, don't know. Don't
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just type in the words you're searching for, but that was not how they do it. They're like,
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"How do I find how to do this?" or "What is the thing for this?" And so the natural language
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thing is, I mean, it's good because I do think that certain, a certain group of users think
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that way and that's how they want to formulate their queries. And so by saying, you know,
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show me all the, you know, the presentation files I was working on last June and having
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it actually be able to do that, there are a lot of people who are never going to go
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and say, "Date created is between June 1st and June 30th of 2014 and kind is presentation."
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I'm one of those people. I prefer to ask a computer a question like that. It's like why
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I love Fantastical because I have natural language entry. I can't use other kinds of
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programs now. I like to just type it because my brain works that way. It's easier. I loved
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the email stuff, it was like show me the messages I've ignored from Phil. Which is, that is
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smart stuff going on there and I really like that as a way to interact with the computer
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is to ask questions and it should be able to pass what I'm saying and deliver answers
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to me like that. I think that's really cool. Safari stuff, I mean I'm not a Safari user
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so I'm not massively interested in it. Some of this like the pinned tabs thing it just
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feels like adding a feature. I don't know what you think, but I don't see a lot of utility
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in doing that. You could just have the tab open.
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Well, no, but the idea here is you've got your favorite sites. And again, this is how
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different people work. You've got your favorite sites and you always want them there. And
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instead of putting them in a bookmark and then clicking on the bookmark every time you
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open it, I'm pretty sure this is one of those features that came out of them observing how
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users use software. And they always go to these same apps. And so by having them be
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pinned like that, any browser window you're in has them right there, and they're preloading
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them, which they, you know, more aggressively than they would if it was just in the bookmarks
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bar. And they hide the bookmarks bar by default, I think, so this is like a...
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- Visual book launch. - Yeah, it's like a new version of that for
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your high priority sites, 'cause, you know, there are a lot of people that this is how
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they use the internet, is they check eight sites that they like, or four sites that they
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like. And so to have them in this way, I think there will be certain kinds of users who will
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get a huge benefit out of having it there.
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I was in a room with a bunch of developers, you were in a room with even more. The advancements
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to Metal on the Mac seem to turn people, like to set people into a bit of a frenzy.
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Well that's a super developer message, and so the developers like to hear that. I think
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unless you're somebody who really loves OpenGL, I mean the idea there is that you're using
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and core animation.
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You can use core animation and core graphics
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and now it's running at a much,
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they set up to 50% improvement in speed
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because they're eliminating the gap.
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They're getting you closer to the metal by doing that.
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So I thought it was interesting too in terms of,
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this section had the lengthy set of examples involving Adobe,
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which is interesting 'cause that's a relationship
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that's gone back and forth,
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about especially over the whole Flash debacle.
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And here what you've got is Adobe highlighted
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as a company that tried some of these new features,
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got great results, and has said,
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"We're gonna use this technology
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"for all of our products on the Mac."
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And that they said, not just After Effects,
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which is one that always gets carted out,
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but like Illustrator having some stuff
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that currently they can't show the UI update
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because it's too processor intensive,
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So they just sort of, when you zoom in,
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you move from state A to state B,
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and that with this system,
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they can actually do a smooth zoom to that point,
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and stuff like that,
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and that they're committed to adopting it
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on all their OS X apps.
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I mean, I thought that was a really interesting sign,
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not only of the Apple-Adobe relationship,
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but interesting endorsement of some pretty prominent,
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it's a practical use in those apps,
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these prominent apps of this technology.
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So it's not just a, "Hey, games can be good on the Mac,"
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which is not the biggest market on the Mac anyway.
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- That's where the demo came from.
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The demo came from Epic.
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And I felt like it would have been a lot better
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to come from Adobe.
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The demo should have come from Adobe.
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- Yeah, I agree.
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and would have made a lot more sense to have them on stage
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and to have them showing some of the stuff.
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- Yeah, maybe they just weren't prepared to do it,
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but I agree with you.
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That would have been, I don't know,
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I find the game demos boring in general
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and this one was boring in particular.
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It was, it went on way too long
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and I felt like it was a little like the, you know,
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a teacher trying to tell a student
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to hurry up their presentation by saying,
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they're gonna give us a really short demo.
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As they introduced them, they said a short demo.
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- But it wasn't. - Wasn't short enough, no.
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- Because the thing was, and the issue is with that stuff,
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they were promoting their new game.
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- Yeah, I know, and it's just like, here's this game,
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it's on the Mac, it's--
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- It doesn't really look that good.
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- It doesn't look that great, it's boring,
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they're acting like it's this cool thing,
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and again, I don't wanna see a demo of their game.
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They were sprinkled in there some examples of,
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hey, this new technology that Apple has really helped us
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here, but I don't think it added a whole lot to the thing.
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- No, it definitely didn't.
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- There are two things, whenever we talk about keynotes,
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there's sort of two things we do.
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The one is analyze what was announced,
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and what does it mean for Apple,
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on what are those products, how do we understand them,
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and what is that gonna mean for users.
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The other thing is like the keynote,
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appreciation of keynote as an art form,
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where we're criticizing the medium more than the message,
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and this is one of those examples where,
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in terms of reviewing the keynote as a performance,
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the game demo really, I could really have done without it,
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and I don't think it really imparted a lot of information.
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- No, it didn't add-- - It was a break.
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- It didn't add any more weight
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than the quote from Adobe on a slide did.
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- It added a lot less weight, I think,
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than the quote from Adobe.
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And quite frankly, are you really trying to explain,
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I mean, other than just, ooh, need moving pictures,
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is it more realistic to show people a game running
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on the Mac than it is professional software running
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Or even photo management software or something,
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but a game, just, yeah.
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- Why don't they bring the product developer
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final cut on stage. Because they were talking about things like rendering and stuff like
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that and show how that's faster. That's more compelling, I think, than showing Epic. Apple
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are trying to get games. It's a thing that the Mac--
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- I get it. It's just never really going to happen on the Mac, and it's helpful that they
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do this, but they're really just saying, "Hey, games are a good way to explain graphics performance."
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But they didn't really explain it. They were just like, "Hey, look, it's a game. Yay!" Yeah,
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less excited. That Adobe thing though, I was impressed by that, the Adobe thing, because
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that's, that's not just Adobe to write a thing out and said it was okay. That's Adobe saying,
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yeah, this is so great, we're going to use it in all our stuff.
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So, you know, then we've got the usual, you know, El Capitan, there's a developer preview
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in July, I think, and it comes out in the fall. Because developer preview now, public
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beta in July. And then there'll be somebody who sends a tweet saying that we got that
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wrong because they haven't, they paused it right before we corrected immediately after
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because that's life in the big city for podcasting.
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But yeah, so it's gonna be the same, it's the usual.
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Developers can get a beta now.
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There'll be a public beta, you know,
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after they've done a developer beta cycle or two,
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they'll do a public beta in July,
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and then it'll be out in the fall for free.
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As far as we can tell, it's just, you know,
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like everybody, if you could run Yosemite,
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you can run El Capitan.
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And yeah, that's it.
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I'm trying to see, I really liked the,
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we didn't mention another example of watching
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how people use their computer and trying to come up
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with ways to do it better, which is one of the great ways
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to innovate if you're building new software.
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Was the shaking your cursor to find out where it is
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when you wake up your computer?
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- Funny little thing, but a nice thing.
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- Yeah, so you shake it and it gets bigger
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while you're shaking it so you can see where it is
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and then it goes back down.
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That's great, I do that all the time.
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I have that big Retina iMac and sometimes I'm like,
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it's a huge screen.
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I don't even know where that little cursor is.
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I'm like, where is it?
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Where is it?
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Is my Bluetooth track pad off?
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Is that why I can't see it?
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What's going on?
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So that was, I just liked that as a, it's silly,
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but that's a good example of somebody building a feature
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because they realized, oh, this is something everybody does
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and it wastes people's time.
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- Anything missing for you?
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- Oh, as I've written, I was ready for them
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to get rid of the X and just call it Mac OS again,
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but this is not an OS release about change, right?
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This is about kind of keeping on from Yosemite,
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and that's fine.
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That's exactly what I was looking for.
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I'm a little surprised that there were rumors
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that the new San Francisco font would be used,
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and I don't think it is.
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- It definitely looked like they were using it on iOS,
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but they didn't mention it.
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- Yeah, and I think I saw one tweet that pointed out
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that it's being used on some parts of iOS,
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but not all of it.
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I don't understand that. That is interesting, if they're using it. Because they didn't even
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mention it. It didn't even seem to be on that big word cloud. So I don't know what's going
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on there. That could still come later, I guess. But maybe there's a reason that we just don't
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know or maybe they just never were going to do it in the first place. But there was definitely
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a font change on iOS, which we'll get to in a bit. But they were showing some of the UI
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it looked different and it looked like San Francisco. So maybe, I don't know, I don't
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know what's happening with El Capitan. I've got to get used to saying that.
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El Capitan. I feel like every time I say it I have to
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say it in a funny way. Well you can call it Snowseminity if you want to.
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I might do that actually. We have Steven in the room here and he's shaking his head. He
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doesn't like Snowseminity which is now what I will call it. So should we move on to iOS?
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Yeah, well, real-time follow-up, T_ in the chatroom says the fonts are updated.
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I don't know updated in what way or what.
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Again, I only have the information that I could glean from the keynote being in it.
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So we'll find out more as the developer betas get installed and we learn more.
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So apparently, definitely, new system font was included in the word cloud.
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So thank you very much to everybody in the chatroom who is pointing that out.
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There definitely is a new system font.
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We will call it Capitan Francisco.
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that they kind of pitch that.
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And the foundation stuff is the improvements.
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So shall we start with some of the new
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and shall we talk about the new News app?
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- Sure, let's do that.
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- Can you give a brief overview for anyone that doesn't know
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or anyone that needs a refresher, what is the News app?
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- Well, it looks like Newsstand is going away
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and that all the Newsstand apps
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just going to be apps, which is fine because Newstand was not very good, and
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that there's this new app called News that looks like it's not quite an
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RSS reader. It's more like Flipboard. It reminds me a lot of those instant
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articles that are in Facebook. It's Apple providing a platform in which web
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articles basically will be shown with some custom layout that makes them look
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nicer and you can subscribe to subjects or tags or particular publications
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whether they're newspapers or magazines or blogs and then it collects the
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stories for you so yeah I mean especially Flipboard is a good example
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where it sounds a lot like like that kind of thing except this is going to be
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an Apple app and it's gonna be built into every iPhone and iPad.
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Why does this exist?
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I think Apple wants... I don't know, it's a good question. I think Apple wants to make things easier for publishers
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and doesn't want to keep going down the path of Newsstand.
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Newsstand failed.
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failed. Newsstand was a mistake. Apple should have built something like iBooks for magazines
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and newspapers and they instead decided to let every media company build their own apps.
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Yeah, have weirdo apps inside of a weirdo folder. Yeah, so this is so that was a bad
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idea. I think Steve Jobs got charmed by the tech demos, the impractical,
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expensive tech demos in the early days of the iPad and decided that that was
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going to be the media strategy. So this is a very interesting strategy in that
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it's not about, you know, it's a universal reader. It's much more of a fancy web
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browser than it is, you know, it's not like a magazine or newspaper app. It's, I
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I think they've learned a lot of lessons that this is not,
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replicating paper is not what you wanna do.
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You wanna come up with something that embraces this format.
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It's interesting that it's so much like Flipboard.
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They didn't buy Flipboard, they just did something
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that's a lot like Flipboard.
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- Yeah, you pick your categories.
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I like the search stuff.
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Oh, we should mention, this was the first demo
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given by a woman, right?
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Or was it, maybe the Apple Pay stuff came first?
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- You jumped ahead, so this was the second demo
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given by a woman who's given by Susan Prescott. So this was so we might as well
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have this as a quicker slide now because there was also the Apple Pay executive
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do you have her name to hand? Jennifer Bailey. Really interesting so I mean
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yesterday as we record this Christina Warren had a great interview with Tim Cook
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in Mashable and they were talking about equality in tech and women in tech and
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one of the things that Tim said was watch tomorrow watch what we do tomorrow
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and I really like what Apple have done here because what they have done is they
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have brought out people where they wouldn't normally do that. So
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Federighi would have done that demo. So they have brought the executives onto
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the stage so they are forcing the change which is exactly what they need to do
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because they are saying right we're just gonna bring these people
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onto stage because they are women in these great jobs they're doing great
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things, normally you don't get to see them, so instead of doing the normal demo for those
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parts we will bring them out to the front, put them on stage so you can see that we do
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have these people, but usually we just don't bring them out. So I think it was a great
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I agree, in the case of Jennifer Bailey, she's the VP and judge of Apple Pay, so why not?
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Yeah, exactly, exactly. I mean you bring her out, plus they both gave incredible demos.
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I thought they were funny and powerful
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and just really, really great at what they did.
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- Yeah, they both had their unique styles
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that were their own, just as any presenter does.
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And yeah, it was good to see more,
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it was good to see different people on stage
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to have Apple's keynote be less monolithic
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than it's been in the past.
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- Yep. - I think that was good.
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It felt like you're watching a whole company
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full of people who are working on this stuff
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and not a very tiny cabal of people who invent everything
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and then roll it out.
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which is, you know, not accurate. It is more.
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There are a lot of people who work at Apple
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and working on this stuff, so to see more of them is good.
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And to see some diversity on that stage, really good.
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- So basically, news is a new take on an RSS reader.
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I think in a nutshell, that's what it is.
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I'm thinking maybe some of this
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is so they can populate Spotlight stuff, right?
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Because Spotlight seems to suggest news articles,
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and this is a place to send you to,
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so that could be one thing that they're doing it for.
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They showed big publishers, they showed Wired,
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they had Vox on the screen.
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- Yeah, New York Times.
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- Yep, Conde Nast and stuff like that.
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They also made a point of showing Daring Fireball,
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which was really exciting.
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- Yes, they said the words Daring Fireball.
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- And she cooked him as a choice of a blog that she likes.
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What are you gonna do?
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Do you know anything about this system?
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Can you publish this system?
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Do you want to?
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- They made a point of the fact that this is not,
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and I think that's actually one of the reasons
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why they showed Daring Fireball,
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not only because they like John Gruber,
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but because he's a blogger.
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And it was part of the message to say,
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look, here's a newspaper, here's a magazine,
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and here's a blog, and I can subscribe to all of them.
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And then I can subscribe to this broad category
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of technology, as well as this incredibly narrow keyword
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of Swift, the programming language.
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And so it was a good example of that.
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and then later they said, "This is for everyone.
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Presumably they'll have some sort of a spec."
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But they said, "This is for local papers,
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it's for blogs, it's for everyone."
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So all publishers should be able to publish to this format.
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So, you know, given my audience, absolutely.
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I can't wait to find out what the specs are for this
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and figure out how I can take advantage of it.
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- iCloud.com/newspublisher.
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- All right.
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I'll go there after the show.
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you'll use iCloud to add your content to news.
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Sign in with your Apple ID
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that you'd like to use for your business or channel.
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- Weird that it's on iCloud.
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That seems like an interesting thing, but okay.
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I feel like they need to have that.
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- That's gotta be like iBook,
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it's like iTunes Connect.
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It's a backend system that you sign up for.
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Yeah, that's weird.
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- I mean, this feels like something
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that you would have an article
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that you wanna put out there and you would,
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it's a nice big beefy article or something
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you put it in. I imagine they've got some document specs and some feed specs and
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you know that's everybody will look at that and figure out how they want to
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proceed. But you know it's interesting I guess if it's pre-installed maybe people
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use it I don't know if I will like maybe maybe maybe I'll look at that instead of
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RSS or something I don't know. Yeah I don't I mean I don't use Flipboard and I
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don't use RSS so I'm using I'm using Nuzzle right now to do all that you know
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But yeah, I'll check it out.
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There are lots of different ways to do reading,
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and getting on the device is powerful.
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It's not the solution.
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Every iPhone user in existence
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has not started listening to podcasts
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because the podcast app is on the iPhone,
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but it sure helps that there's a podcast app on the iPhone.
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And this is, you know, there will be,
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if you want to get some news,
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also they integrated top news and things into their search.
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And this is a way, presumably,
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you will now jump to the news app to read those
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instead of-- - The website.
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- To the website, so that's part of that integration too.
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And it sounds like the Recode report,
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Walt Mossberg's report about this,
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or no, Peter Kafka's report about this,
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was that we saw no ads today,
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but it sounds like publishers can put ads in there
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and they keep all the money from the ads.
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Apple's not trying to say give us 30% of all the ads
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that display in the news app.
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And then that report also said that if you don't have ads,
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If you've run out of your ads or whatever,
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Apple will actually be the backfill
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and they could actually put their own ads in there
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and then cut you in for a piece of that.
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So there is an ad story there too.
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It'll be interesting to see how that goes
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'cause they said the New York Times,
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they're gonna put in what, 30 stories a day or something.
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I mean, that's interesting because that's stuff
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that you aren't allowed to read on the web
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because after a few stories,
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you are blocked from those stories for the rest of the month
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on the New York Times,
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but they'll all be, you know, 30 stories a day
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will be in the News app.
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That's, that's-- - That's a lot.
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- That's content you can't get on the web
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but you can get in the News app.
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That's pretty cool.
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- Notes, the Notes app-- - Notes app.
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- Has some massive, massive changes.
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- Yeah, it looks a lot more like Vesper now.
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So thanks, they mentioned Daring Fireball.
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They also made Notes work a lot more like Vesper.
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So I thought there was a nice tidbit there that I noticed,
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which is that Notes is used by half of all iPhone users.
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- That's a popular app.
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- Surprisingly.
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- Used by, I use it, when I parked today,
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I opened Notes and put down where I parked.
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- I mean, nothing--
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- I'll give it a go of iOS 9.
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I mean, I use Draft for this stuff, but--
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- Well, I'm using Notes for, like I said,
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it's also my purpose-built note-taking app
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for watching things for the incomparable.
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they're all in there, all of my notes are in there.
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So there's a toolbar, there's text formatting,
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you can make quick checklists, you can insert photos,
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you can link-- - There's an extension?
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- Yeah, yeah, there's a links, the links look better,
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it's not just like a hyperlink of text,
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it's actually a little box with a preview
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of where the link goes to, which is kinda neat.
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So they really did add a whole bunch of stuff.
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A share sheet that lets you drop things
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into notes from elsewhere with some nice stuff.
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-I'm probably gonna switch to Apple Maps from Google Maps
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because of their transit stuff.
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-Well, Google has transit stuff, too.
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-The way that Apple are displaying the transit stuff
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is very, very interesting to me,
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and I'm very much looking forward to checking it out.
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-What way is that?
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-So, they have a couple of things
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that I really like to look off.
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They have a full transit map,
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which shows lines and stuff like that
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on the actual map face.
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- Yeah, I really liked that,
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that you're not just viewing transit little buttons
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on top of a street map.
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You're looking at a transit map, transit layer.
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- And even more interestingly,
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'cause this is something that frustrates me with Google Maps
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and any other mapping service I've ever used,
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which is it shows me the entrance for the train station,
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which is something that I don't get.
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And they're like, we'll send you there
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so you know exactly where to go.
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because usually they just drop a pin right in the middle.
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- Yeah, it's like the train station is a single item
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that is a single point
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and everybody enters through that point,
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which of course is not how it works.
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- 'Cause that's the main reason that I don't use Apple Maps
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is because I am a person who needs transit stuff.
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That's how I get around.
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I use the tube and I use buses and I walk.
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And at the moment,
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Apple have not had anything to help me in that regard.
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And all of the third-party apps that I've tried,
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I haven't found better than Google Maps. And London is a launch city, which it definitely
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should be, and I'm really happy they did it, because I think it's the only one outside
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of America or China that is a launch city.
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That's good.
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It's because London is…
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No, no, there's Berlin.
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Is there Berlin as well?
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Berlin's in there too.
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Okay. So it's limited. And it makes sense, I mean, you go for the places that have real
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good infrastructure. London is one of them. And I think my understanding is the data isn't
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hard to get because we have a centralized body that does it. So TFL, Transport for London,
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has all of that data and they have APIs and stuff, so we were probably not too difficult
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a city to actually map and get it right. But I'm really, really excited for that.
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Yeah, that's something that Apple just couldn't do when they were launching their new maps
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thing. It was just one thing that they just couldn't get it done in time.
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Because this needs careful consideration.
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Transit is very, very difficult to do.
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But I still think they should have waited, or they should have done this two years ago,
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because it is a big part of it.
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But I'm very happy to see it.
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And one of the main reasons is because I would want to switch is because I really, really
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love getting the directions on my watch.
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I love that.
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And that's really going to work well for me.
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So I'm excited for that.
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I think it would be difficult maybe, I don't know, we'll see from the native
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stuff for Google to do a comparable app for the watch, but so I'm really excited
00:38:17
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for that. Yeah when I was in Brooklyn I was trying to use Google Maps and it
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and for transit and it took me to the block where the train station was that I
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was going to. But then I had that wandering around thing where you're
00:38:35
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trying to guess at where the actual entry way to the train station was
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because it wasn't, it didn't take me to the entryway for, you know, that I could go down
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that was the closest to where I was and I wandered around for a couple of minutes before
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I found the way in.
00:38:48
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- Yeah, so, yeah.
00:38:50
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- Passbook becomes Wallet and with Wallet comes additional features for Apple Pay.
00:38:55
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- So there are store cards and loyalty cards now, right?
00:38:59
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- Yeah, so they talked about loyalty cards at the event in September of last year.
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- But they--
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- They talked about when they launched Apple Pay that, or they announced Apple Pay.
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And not in the keynote, but after the keynote,
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when we were talking to them, they're like,
00:39:13
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"Oh yeah, yeah, loyalty cards will be supported."
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But it just hasn't happened yet.
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So now it's happened.
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Now we've got where they're making those partnerships,
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so the loyalty cards will be built in to Apple Pay as well.
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And you left out, in addition to having London Transit,
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we have Apple Pay in the UK,
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which is the old punk rock song.
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- That's happening in July.
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So because there was rumors that Canada was going to be the next, the next destination for Apple Pay,
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but next month I finally get Apple Pay. 250,000 locations. The best one is the tube. So we'll be
00:39:49
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able to use Apple Pay to ride the tube. There is a quite a funny thing. I currently have two bank
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accounts with two different banks. And over the next couple of months, I was planning on switching
00:40:01
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to the bank that I prefer, Barclays, currently with HSBC going to Barclays.
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Barclays is one of the only banks in the UK that has not yet signed up for Apple Pay,
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which is extremely surprising because Barclays is the most digital, but they're not there
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yet, they will be because their customers are going to really really pressure them.
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Because when they showed the screen, every other major UK bank, of which there are a
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lot, seemed to be involved.
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So I will still use it because at the moment all my personal transactions go through my
00:40:29
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HSBC bank account and they are gonna be using Apple Pay so I'm very very excited
00:40:34
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next month to start using Apple Pay because it's something that I really want
00:40:38
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because we are so contactless. I pay with my card contactless but now I'll be able
00:40:44
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to do my watch instead. I'm really really excited to do that.
00:40:48
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It's pretty great. I enjoy that. Yeah, I was in a Waitrose with
00:40:53
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James Thompson in Glasgow and talking about Apple Pay and how it you know
00:40:57
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hopefully it'll come to the UK sometime and they made that announcement and I said a note
00:41:02
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to James saying well that Waitrose in Glasgow will have Apple Pay soon.
00:41:07
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So it was actually Waitrose was a very great, they were a great supermarket. They were one of
00:41:10
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the ones that actually mentioned them. I like that they picked a couple out and because they do that
00:41:16
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for America so do it for us too and I like that that they said Marks and Spencers and Waitrose,
00:41:20
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they picked them out as two locations and they're fancy supermarkets, they're an upscale supermarket.
00:41:27
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It's huge UK news today is what we're saying. Huge UK news.
00:41:31
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It's all coming up, Royal Britannia today. I'm very happy. I mean, I know I'm in another country,
00:41:37
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but I'm flying the flag today. Let's talk about the iPad, Jason.
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Anything happen with the iPad?
00:41:43
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All I know is Federico Vittucci's brain exploded. I haven't heard from him for a while. I think we
00:41:52
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we should maybe send someone to go and check on them. There is some really, really big
00:41:58
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stuff in here.
00:41:59
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Well, you know, so we were talking, we've talked about that on this show before, that
00:42:02
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there's this feeling that a lot of people have and that I have that I wrote a piece
00:42:06
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on six colors about it, that the size of the iPhone, the success of the iPhone is so tremendous
00:42:12
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that it's hard to justify and sometimes it's been hard for Apple to justify investing a
00:42:20
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a lot of effort on iPad features in iOS,
00:42:22
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because there's so many iPhones,
00:42:24
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and there are fewer iPads.
00:42:25
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Even if the iPad, you know, the iPad's fine,
00:42:28
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it's not the iPhone, nothing's the iPhone.
00:42:30
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And today, we got a large chunk of the presentation
00:42:35
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devoted to features that were at least described
00:42:40
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as being iPad features.
00:42:41
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Some of them may have their counterparts on the iPhone,
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but it was really about working on the iPad,
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And as somebody who loves his iPad,
00:42:51
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I'm not Federico Vitici level of love,
00:42:55
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but I was blown away by it.
00:42:58
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That was probably my favorite part
00:43:00
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of the entire presentation was the iPad stuff.
00:43:03
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- So there's a couple of different things here.
00:43:04
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So one of them, there's a few features
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that are classed as multitasking.
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So there is a few features, there's one called Slide Over,
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where it's a second app where you kind of pull it in
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from the side.
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- Yeah, it's like Notification Center or the Control Center,
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except from the right side.
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- Yeah, so you pull in, I think it probably,
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they didn't really explain what app,
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I guess it's like the most recent app,
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and then you're able to do some, invoke some action,
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I think it's the multitasking,
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and you can switch between a vertical list of apps.
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You slide it in, double tap,
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and you can change what app is there.
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So the idea being maybe Twitter or Messages,
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you slide it in, do what you gotta do,
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slide it back away again,
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and it shows basically an iPhone.
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- Yeah, it's in the #mikewasright section
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of the presentation, they basically said
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to the developers who were there,
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'cause again, developer conference,
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is if you did the work to do the auto layout and sizing
00:44:00
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that, for example, allowed your iPhone 6 app
00:44:04
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to also work really well on the 6 Plus,
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that will just kind of move along
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and go off on the corner there and it'll auto layout
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and it's like a little iPhone app running
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next to a kind of narrow iPad app.
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Then there was split view.
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Split view is you can invoke this from slide over
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where you then effectively you pull it across
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and you have two apps running simultaneously
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next to each other.
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This is massive stuff.
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Like they were showing some things there
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that look really interesting.
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Like click a link in the notes app
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and you've got maps next to it
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and it will just go to the maps
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or you click a link in a web browser and it pops up.
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they were showing some really interesting ways that these two apps will just work together in tandem.
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Yeah, and it's not any different, it looks like, or not much different than how apps work together
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now, except now one app goes away and the other app comes to the foreground. And in this, they're
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both running, so one app is there and then another app... And in fact, you can have like Maps open on
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on the left but you tap on a web link, Maps goes away on the left and Safari opens. That
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is a behavior too. But then you've got the two things open simultaneously. We should
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say that Split View only works on the iPad Air 2 right now. Presumably new iPads to be
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announced this fall will all support it. That's my guess.
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But they all have Slide Over I think. But they all have Slide Over and the other
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feature which is the video picture in picture feature.
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which is madness.
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That is like, you know,
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you're watching a streaming video app
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and you can just have that app playing in a corner
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like a FaceTime preview.
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You can move it around.
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They should like, you can basically slide it
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all the way off the screen just to listen to it.
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- That is really great.
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Like YouTube are doing backflips
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because that is amazing for that kind of app.
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And I think that that is really, really exciting stuff.
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- Yeah, well, I use that for like major league baseball.
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You could use it for HBO Go.
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I mean, the apps have to support it,
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but that's pretty cool too.
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But the Split View itself is iPad Air too,
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only because it's by far the most powerful iOS device.
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So right now that's the only place you can get it.
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But it's very interesting that this is happening.
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And they also mentioned as a part of this,
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was it, well, no, in another part of the demo
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when they were talking about Siri,
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They also talked about APIs for apps
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to put their content in Spotlight.
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And that's exciting, but they also said--
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- App indexing.
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- Yeah, and that also means though that they said
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that those apps will be able to provide
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essentially a deep linking URL with their search results
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or URL format.
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So that's deep linking supported in the system.
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That's like automation, workflow kind of stuff
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becoming, if not mainstream,
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becoming kind of a blessed part
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of what's happening in the system.
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And that's really great too.
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So you throw that in there with the split view
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and you've got some features
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that are traditional computer features
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that are finally showing up on iOS for the first time.
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- So what about the keyboard?
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there is some magical things happening to the iPad keyboard.
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So the quick type bar, the suggestions bar,
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now has shortcuts, cut, copy, paste, and formatting in it,
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and I think attachments if you're in mail or whatever.
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But the real magical stuff is this text selection.
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- Remember when there was that,
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we were talking about last week, two weeks ago,
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about that Apple patent that was,
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what if you could move your finger around
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on the MacBook keyboard and it would be like a trackpad?
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Well, this is that on the iPad keyboard.
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you just move your finger around two fingers,
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you put two fingers down on the keyboard instead of one,
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and now it's a track pad,
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and you can move the insertion point around,
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move it up and down, you can essentially click,
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and drag, and select text, it's crazy.
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- There was this one point where Federighi was demoing this,
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and he was doing stuff at such speed.
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He clearly had practiced it a lot,
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but it looked incredible,
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and he was meant to do it fast to show you,
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click that, cut that, copy that, paste it,
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it was just like wow.
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- It's like using a laptop to select text,
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so forget about that.
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Plus, on top of that, they improved hardware keyboard support.
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- Yep, there's a task, there's an app switcher,
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like on OS X.
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- You can command tab through apps.
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- And there's just a bunch of shortcuts now,
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and I think it said when you plug in a keyboard,
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it shows you them, so you know what you're dealing with.
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- That's great.
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really amazing stuff.
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- These are all features,
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I mean, maybe not the picture in picture video,
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although that can make you more productive
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because you're not just watching a video,
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you're doing other stuff,
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but these are productivity features.
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And I think that's an important thing about that,
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that announcement is that these are features
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designed to make iOS on an iPad more capable
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of being a productivity tool.
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And we know from people like Federico
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that you can use it to be productive now,
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but this certainly makes it easier to be productive
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and lets you be more efficient and more productive.
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And maybe when I think of something like
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that trackpad feature on the keyboard,
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I think maybe make people who want to use the iPad
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for productivity, but just, you know, when they try,
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they end up saying, oh, it's too slow.
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I've gotta move the little cursor around with my finger
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and press delete a bunch of times.
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It's not like on my laptop where I can just zip around.
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And this may be the kind of feature
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that makes somebody who had dreamed about it
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but had just said, "Look, the iPad, it's just not realistic."
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Take a second look and say, "Oh, actually, the iPad."
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It really felt like, this is the first time we've had
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something that felt like a cursor in iOS.
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And it's only text selection,
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but it still, it felt like a cursor, right?
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You're moving that I-beam cursor around
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with those two fingers.
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And that's, you know, this is the iPad inching closer
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to a traditional desktop computer metaphor,
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which I think is also really interesting.
00:50:32
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But it's a use case where the desktop computer
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is just way more efficient than the iPad input is.
00:50:38
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So really clever, looked really good,
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the proof will be in the use obviously,
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but just super exciting.
00:50:47
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- And Siri is a personal assistant now.
00:50:50
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Siri, in fact, is a brand for finding information
00:50:53
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and not about speaking, because they described Siri
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as being the information source behind
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our natural language search in the search box.
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Even though you weren't talking, you were typing,
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they were saying Siri knows about these things.
00:51:11
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So Apple is sort of making it clear
00:51:14
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that what they view as Siri now
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is this personal information assistant,
00:51:18
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not just the thing that speaks to you.
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- So there's the natural language questions
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you can ask yourself.
00:51:26
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It has more data like for sports
00:51:28
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and you can ask it questions like,
00:51:31
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they have an example on the website,
00:51:33
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what's 18% of 56, 78, you can type that stuff in now.
00:51:37
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So this stuff happens typing not just talking,
00:51:41
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which is really good, I like that a lot.
00:51:43
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And then it has the news stuff
00:51:45
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and we mentioned the deep search,
00:51:47
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but it's also trying to do a little bit of what Google Now on Tap is doing.
00:51:52
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So you've got something up and you can get it to remind you,
00:51:56
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so remind me of this later on,
00:51:58
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and it will take the content from the message or the web page or whatever and do that.
00:52:02
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Siri will add invites to your calendar automatically,
00:52:07
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and will make more smart reminders for it,
00:52:11
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like invitation, event alarms and stuff like that.
00:52:15
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So it's saying like, you have an appointment at six o'clock,
00:52:18
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there's some traffic right now, you should leave.
00:52:20
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This is good stuff.
00:52:21
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- Time to leave feature.
00:52:24
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Yeah, and I had a couple of people ask me on Twitter
00:52:27
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during the keynote, what makes this different
00:52:30
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than what Google's doing?
00:52:31
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And you know, we all just said that Google
00:52:32
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was doing creepy things, and why is this not creepy?
00:52:35
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The answer is, it may or may not feel creepy to you
00:52:37
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that a computer knows things about you,
00:52:39
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but as far as I can tell, the big difference is,
00:52:42
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everything that's happening here is happening on the device.
00:52:44
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Whereas much of what Google does happens in the cloud.
00:52:47
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- And it's up to you if you find that creepy.
00:52:51
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- Sure, sure, but it doesn't compromise Apple Store here,
00:52:55
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which is it's your information on your device.
00:52:57
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But it's good, Apple needs to do this.
00:53:01
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This is a place where Apple is behind very clearly
00:53:05
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in putting all this information together
00:53:07
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and making it easy to find things
00:53:09
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and to have the computer make some assumptions about you
00:53:13
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because it knows a lot of information about you
00:53:16
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►
and try to help you out.
00:53:18
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This is all good stuff.
00:53:20
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We'll see how it works in practice, right?
00:53:22
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They do these demos and they blow us away.
00:53:24
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And then in practice, we find that half of the stuff
00:53:26
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doesn't really work right.
00:53:27
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- Yeah, so you've always got a reserve judgment
00:53:30
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on these kinds of things.
00:53:31
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And then they rounded it off
00:53:32
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with what they called the foundation enhancements,
00:53:35
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which are working optimizing battery life,
00:53:38
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including a new, what's it like, battery reserve mode,
00:53:42
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kind of like the watch reserve mode, I guess.
00:53:45
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They didn't really give any information on this.
00:53:46
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- A low power mode, they said, that on stage said,
00:53:51
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pulls levers you didn't even know existed
00:53:53
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to give an additional three hours extended battery life.
00:53:55
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I think this is the place where I wrote down
00:53:59
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two of the biggest announcements of the day happened
00:54:01
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at the end of an iOS section, almost as an aside.
00:54:05
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And one of them is that according to Apple,
00:54:11
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They focused on real world use cases for battery life
00:54:15
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and said that in typical use,
00:54:18
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a phone running iOS 9 will last an hour more.
00:54:23
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And that low power mode can extend
00:54:27
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an additional three hours of battery time.
00:54:31
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And then the second big one was
00:54:35
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you needed 4.6 gigabytes free to install iOS 8
00:54:38
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and you'll need 1.3 gigabytes.
00:54:40
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And we talked about this a while ago on the show,
00:54:42
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about like, what could they improve in iOS?
00:54:44
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And this was huge that they've cut by,
00:54:48
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you know, it's a quarter of the amount of space
00:54:51
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that was required for the last update.
00:54:53
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'Cause a lot of people didn't update
00:54:55
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because they had no room.
00:54:56
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I think one of the reasons why iOS 8 adoption
00:55:00
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is less than it's been in the past
00:55:02
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is that, that people couldn't do it.
00:55:05
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It's 83%, which is good, but it could be better.
00:55:09
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And one of the reasons it's not is
00:55:10
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if you only have two gigabytes free,
00:55:12
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you're just not gonna update
00:55:13
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because it needs four and a half.
00:55:15
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And so they've really reduced that.
00:55:16
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I think that's two huge pieces of news.
00:55:19
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Making the iPhone's battery last an hour longer
00:55:22
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in common circumstances is a giant deal.
00:55:26
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And I thought it was interesting
00:55:27
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that they just kind of tossed it in there.
00:55:28
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Like yeah, battery's gonna be,
00:55:29
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maybe they don't wanna oversell it,
00:55:31
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but for me, I just read that and thought that's huge.
00:55:34
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Just extending battery life in the iPhone at all,
00:55:36
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plus offering a setting where you can be like,
00:55:37
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I'm really worried, I've gotta go a long time
00:55:39
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and I'm starting to run out of battery,
00:55:41
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also a really nice powerful feature.
00:55:44
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That again, there are some Android phones that do that now,
00:55:46
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but Apple has not ever done that before,
00:55:49
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and it's good to see them doing it.
00:55:50
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They're promising better performance everywhere,
00:55:52
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and they also said that iOS 9 is gonna run
00:55:54
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on every device that iOS 8 ran on, which is good.
00:55:56
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No cutoffs this year.
00:55:58
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In the chat room, our friend Dan Morin,
00:56:00
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I don't even know where he is right now,
00:56:02
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but he's near us somewhere, says that if your phone knows
00:56:06
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that it's phased down on a table
00:56:08
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and won't turn the screen on when you receive a notification.
00:56:11
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I mean, smart, right?
00:56:12
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- That's smart stuff.
00:56:14
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Just using the sensors that you have
00:56:16
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to understand the context of the phone,
00:56:19
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therefore allowing it to make more smart decisions.
00:56:21
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- And it goes back to watching how people use your device
00:56:26
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and what they use it for and making smart changes
00:56:31
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to the features based on that, just observing them.
00:56:35
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And I saw that a lot today.
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Okay, so, whew, here we go.
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Hey, I'm back!
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Was there a robot here before?
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I don't know.
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I'm so happy you're back.
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smell like oil in the air as if a robot had come by.
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- WatchOS 2.
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- WatchOS, WatchOS.
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- Lowercase W, no space.
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- I don't like that.
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- It's weird.
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- So they have some new features.
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We have some new watch faces.
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I was kind of underwhelmed by this.
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They have time lapses of certain cities and photos.
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I was really hoping for some other watch faces
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that have loads of complications
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like the ones we have now.
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That's what I wanted to see.
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Yeah, it's not impossible that between now and the fall they will have some more.
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I mean, they don't need to communicate to customers or developers that there'll be some
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other watch faces, so they could add others or they could not.
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I'm excited.
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When this was just an idea, the Apple Watch, when they had the two events and we hadn't
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actually used the final product, I think we thought a lot about the idea of custom watch
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and having used the watch I started to think much more about custom
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complications and like the faces are nice there could be more of them but
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they're nice but the complications are so limited there are just these few
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stock ones that Apple has provided and it turns out this was for me this was
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the big news on the watch side of the day is yes native apps we knew that
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would happen and that's that's got some potential but also that native apps
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presumably will be able to push data into complications so that I can take
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data from the Major League Baseball app of the my favorite team's current score
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and have it appear as a as a complication or the one that I keep
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thinking of is weather underground I've got the temperature on my weather
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station at my house on Weather Underground, I would like to see that
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temperature on my watch, not the, you know, whatever forecast Yahoo weather
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temperature that's wrong. I want the real one, and an app knows that, so my watch
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should be able to show that. Now with this complications, third-party
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complications, we get that. That's gonna be exciting stuff. I'm thinking that with
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third-party complications, I may go into a, like, setting of having different
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customized watch faces, because you can set up different ones, right? Yeah, of the
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the same face even, which is great.
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- Yeah, I would have like my travel watch face,
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which has my flight information and stuff.
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I think that might be good to then set up
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and to play around with.
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- Yeah, I agree.
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I mean, people are doing some of that now,
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but it's gonna become even more so,
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because there's only so much space
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and different complications.
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One thing they didn't talk about
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that I do think ultimately they need to do is deal with,
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maybe it's in there and we just don't know,
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'cause it didn't make it into the keynote,
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but I like the idea of complications
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that are aware of certain kinds of states.
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An example with the existing one is when the calendar complication gets to "No more events of the day,"
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it just says "No more events," which is just dumb.
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And I wonder if, at some point down the road, you should be able to do things like say,
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"I know that you're about to have a trip, so now I'm going to put up the travel complication,"
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or something like that. And that's probably a ways off, but I feel like that's the next intelligent agent step for the watch.
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that goes hand in hand with the Siri stuff.
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Like eventually that stuff should filter into the flight.
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- Right, it should know,
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I can call up your flight information now and display it
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because now I know you're about to go on that flight.
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But otherwise I'm not gonna show it.
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I'm just gonna show you this other,
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some other piece of information that's relevant.
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- Time travel is an interesting one.
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So when you're on the watch face.
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- From the people who brought you Time Machine,
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now there's time travel.
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- Basically you can spin the digital crown
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in either direction
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and it will update complications accordingly.
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So for example, your calendar will show you
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what's coming next or what's past,
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the temperature stuff will change, that kind of thing.
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And it'd be interesting, I don't know what's happened
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with some apps, but there is an element of understanding
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what's going on in the past and in the future
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with this kind of thing.
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- Right, they showed the Volkswagen app
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that was trying to estimate, basically,
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as you moved into the future,
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it was able to provide an estimate
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for how much your electric car would be charged
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- That doesn't make any sense to me, that one.
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So you could use it the next day.
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Like that one, I get what they're doing,
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but that example doesn't work.
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- Well, it makes sense if you are,
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I think what it makes sense is if you know
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you need to drive, so when I went to New Jersey,
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Lex Friedman picked me up at the airport,
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and he can get to the airport and back
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with his electric car, sort of just barely,
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but he can get it, but it needs to be fully charged.
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So I can see a scenario where you're looking,
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you're checking and you wanna see,
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is the car gonna be fully charged?
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I'm going somewhere and I need it fully charged.
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When's that going to be?
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And your car's app will be able to know
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and give time machine, not time machine,
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time machine, time travel.
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Time machine backs things up.
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Time travel, completely different.
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Use a time machine for time travel.
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That's really confusing.
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Time travel will let you see,
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oh, I only need about 60% battery.
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I'll get that in two hours.
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Yeah, that may not be the most practical demonstration,
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but I can see where you could use that.
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Also, we should say this is a behavior
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that's in current watch faces now.
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It's in the astronomy and solar faces
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that if you move the, in those, if you move the crown,
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you can go forward and backward in time.
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And so they've applied that to other faces
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as this concept of sort of like seeing what's happening.
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And it lets you see what's coming in your calendar later,
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for example, if you've got a calendar complication,
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which is interesting.
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Somebody, I think, I may be stealing something
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from Ask Upgrade, but somebody asked about how this relates
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to maybe being Apple's response to the timeline view
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in Pebble Time.
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- Yeah, let me find that question, 'cause that, oh, no.
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- And I'm not sure whether it's a response or not,
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but it seems to be Apple's attempt to solve
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the same problem.
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- Yeah, that came from Oz.
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He asked, "Do you think the time travel thing
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"is a response to the timeline interface?"
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I think, I mean, I look at that,
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and my feeling would be that Apple saw that
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and was like, "That's smart.
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"We could do that."
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- Yeah, it's possible, or it was on a parallel
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track, but it's certainly trying to solve the same problem, which is, okay, I've got
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this calendar complication, it shows me one thing, what if I want to scroll through my
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calendar? Well, you can open the calendar app, but now you can just spin the crown and
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move forward in time.
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So we also have something that, so basically you now turn your watch into an alarm clock,
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like an actual digital alarm clock on your nightstand, by putting your watch into a position
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that nobody does.
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I certainly don't, you don't, Stephen doesn't.
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Laying it on its side, the non-button side,
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and it displays--
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- Clipping the charger to the back.
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- Yeah, clip the charger to the back,
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and it displays a clock, and it'll--
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- Your next alarm.
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- And your alarm, and you can press the crown to snooze,
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and you can press the other button to turn it off,
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and it's like, alarm clock mode for your watch,
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which is super clever.
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I have never thought to put my watch in that orientation,
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but I guess I'll try it tonight and see what happens.
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And all of these stands.
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- All the stands.
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- So none of them are in that orientation.
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- So now there needs to be new stands.
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- Not newsstand, newsstands.
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- No, newsstands.
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- Newsstands that work in this orientation,
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which is very sad.
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I feel terrible for people like 12 South.
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Like that's sad.
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So obviously we got what we wanted.
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we get native apps and there's, yeah,
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there's, I don't really know what to say here.
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There's gonna be native apps.
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- Yeah, and this is big because right now the UI,
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well, Apple didn't say a lot about it either.
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Apple said, "Hey, the UI, you know, was on the watch,
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but the all the logic was happening on the iPhone app
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and now it won't, it'll be on the watch, yay."
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And then they moved on.
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- Because I guess the people that know what that means
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are happy with that, they don't need to say anymore.
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- Well, there's more sessions at WWDC,
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but I think they felt they didn't want to dive deeper.
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- It wasn't necessary.
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- Well, I mean, they did go into a list of things
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that it does, right?
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So it can use the network when you're on wifi,
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which there were a couple of people I know mentioned
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sort of like, well, why does that matter?
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And it matters that if your phone is at home,
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but you're at the market on the market's wifi,
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those apps can use the network,
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even though they're not attached to your phone.
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Right now, that wouldn't work
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because without your phone nearby,
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they don't run those apps over the internet.
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- Do you know where that's better?
01:08:09
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- Yeah, exactly, right?
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- So the gym's wifi.
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- Yeah, yeah.
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So even if you're nowhere near well,
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there your phone and your watch might be on the same wifi
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if you bring your watch to the gym.
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- Well, you don't have to take your phone to the gym.
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- But you don't have to take the phone to the gym, right.
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I mean, for me, the example is I walk over to Whole Foods
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and I just have my watch on.
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I get to Whole Foods and I'm on the Whole Foods wifi,
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all the apps in my watch will just work
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or I go to Starbucks and I'm on the Starbucks Wi-Fi,
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they just work.
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So that's a big plus.
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They have access, they can play audio out of the speaker
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or to Bluetooth headphones.
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They can play video.
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- Use the microphone.
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- They can use the microphone.
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They said long or short form audio and short form video.
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I thought that was interesting. - Yeah, Vines.
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- Do not play YouTube videos in here.
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- But Vines you could do.
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Access to health kit including heart rate,
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home kit access natively on the watch, accelerometer access,
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the Taptic Engine where you can choose.
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It sounds like you don't say buzz the Taptic Engine.
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What they said was choose from a range of feelings.
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So you'll choose from an emotion palette, I guess,
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a vibration and sound pairing that have been curated for you
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presumably by Apple's sound vibration,
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Taptic pairing sommeliers or whatever.
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But you could do that.
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So you can, if you read a native app,
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'cause right now the existing Watch
01:09:44
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that I would give is it's a big win for apps
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that need that stuff, you know,
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because there are a lot of watch apps
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that I feel are sort of like pointless,
01:09:52
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but there are also some that will be great
01:09:55
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when they have access to this stuff.
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- Do you have anything else you wanted to touch on
01:09:59
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with the watch?
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- I don't know.
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I'll just say I'm looking forward to hearing
01:10:06
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what developers think of the watchOS stuff,
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because that's the open question.
01:10:10
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Anybody listening to ATP has heard Marco talk about,
01:10:13
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I don't know if I even want to do a native watch app
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'cause like it's all in the details
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of what it allows him to do.
01:10:21
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And as somebody who runs and has a watch
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and has an iPhone and listens to podcasts,
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I do kind of like the idea of being able to take
01:10:33
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Overcast with me with a couple of podcasts
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and not have to bring my phone with me.
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I would like to do that.
01:10:39
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And if the new watch native apps interface
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allows Marco to build that tool for me,
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I would love to have it.
01:10:48
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But there are like 10 things it has to support.
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And if one of them isn't there, he can't do it.
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So I'm looking forward to hearing,
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after the developers all go to all the sessions this week,
01:11:00
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of course, that they'll report back.
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And I'm looking forward to that.
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'Cause that'll give all of us non-developers
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a little bit of a better sense of scope
01:11:10
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of what the universe of possible Apple Watch apps is,
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because it's not gonna be everything we can imagine.
01:11:16
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There are gonna be limitations,
01:11:18
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limitations of the operating system,
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limitations of that little tiny device.
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It's not that powerful, it's tiny.
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So I'm looking forward to that,
01:11:27
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now that it's out in the open,
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because Apple promised this from day one.
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Apple said back in September of last year,
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there will be native apps eventually,
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and we're getting very close to eventually now,
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and we finally are gonna have the details.
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So I'm looking forward to finding out from the developers
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what they are.
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- I couldn't help but watch that segment
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and think you should have just waited and launched at this.
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- Yeah, honestly, I think you're right now,
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because although there are some good apps,
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there are a lot of bad apps,
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and there's also a lot of,
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the reliance on that kind of tethering,
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I have times when apps just don't launch on my watch,
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and I can't tell why it's happening.
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They just don't launch.
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- And it's different apps at different times.
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Sometimes they launch, sometimes they don't.
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Some apps never launch, some apps launch half the time.
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It's kind of a mess.
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And they're not that good.
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I would rather have just had glances, honestly.
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Little information glances.
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Some-- - On their apps.
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- Twitterific is good.
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The Twitterific app is really good.
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But, you know, I don't know.
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- There are good apps,
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but they all suffer from the same problems.
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and then there are a huge number that are not good.
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- Yeah, I mean, there'll be loads of not good native apps,
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but the good native apps will benefit, will be even better.
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'Cause even the good ones are bad in some ways
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and it's not the developer's fault that they're bad.
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Now, the point, so this is really interesting,
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the music section.
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Now, we were talking earlier, right at the top of the show,
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about criticizing positively and negatively
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the products and the announcements
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and criticizing the presentation.
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We didn't even mention the intro video,
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like the comedy intro video.
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- We had a couple of videos, right?
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There was the Bill Hader video at the beginning,
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which was funny. - Funny, it was good.
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- I thought it was funny and making,
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I mean, it really was like, let's do a Saturday Night Live video about Apple things, making
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references. There's the birds from Monument Valley were in there.
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Angry birds get angry, shaking the bird.
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It was funny. So there was that video. There were a bunch of videos, because there was
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a video later about how great music is.
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How great developers are.
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How great developers are, how the app stores changed the world.
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Lots of videos, actually.
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Lots of videos in there.
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The problem with music is, so for me,
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as a person that wanted this service,
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they have given me everything I wanted in theory.
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I still feel like there's a lot more I need to learn.
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- So Apple Music is what we're talking about.
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- Yeah, Apple Music.
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- It's the Beats Music revised to be Apple Music,
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new service, which they announced.
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You didn't really announce that clearly,
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you just sort of jumped into it.
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Paralleling, I think, this event,
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which never really was super clear on what the service was.
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There are a lot of questions, but the overview of what I've seen is exactly what I want.
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It's a streaming service that has curation with playlists done by humans.
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Yeah, and they made a point. That's one of their big differentiators is they really believe in human curators who know and love music.
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And that they are, they said, you got to go beyond the algorithm. You can't just have an algorithm. You have to have people.
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And that's what they're pushing here, which was Beats's...
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Beats tried to make a big thing about that too, and Apple is extending that.
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And I think that's good. This is very much Beats Music integrated into Apple's music app.
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The problem was the presentation of this service seemed under-rehearsed,
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and way too long, and just unfocused.
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If we get to meta, meta, if we pull back to meta key, key note criticism as a presentation,
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I felt like the first 90 minutes of the pre-- this presentation was really, really good.
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Tight, focused, disciplined, on message.
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The last segment with music was none of those things.
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It was flabby, it was undisciplined, it was self-indulgent, it failed to sell the product.
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I will, as somebody who was at Macworld Expo in New York
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in 2001 where John Rubenstein spent like half an hour
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with weird animations of how the megahertz myth
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wasn't real of Apple versus Intel,
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this is the worst keynote performance since then,
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this segment.
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This was a bad, they did a bad job.
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- And part of that might be,
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well, those music guys, they're crazy,
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but I gotta say, there was a moment in there
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when Eddie Q was joking around on stage where I thought,
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oh, this is what people mean when they say
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that they find Apple presentations insufferable and arrogant.
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And I don't generally agree with that.
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I think that those people are generally wrong,
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but it was like I was taken through the looking glass
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for a moment there, 'cause I thought it was awful.
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I thought they did a bad job.
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They didn't sell the product,
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and it was various degrees of embarrassing.
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degrees of embarrassing. I mean, I thought Eddie Q went on way too long, like he was
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really enjoying being on stage and was wasting our time.
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He was playing so much music it didn't make any sense.
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He was playing music loudly while talking, he was giving us a demo. I mean, if we want
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to talk about the discipline here, he was giving us a demo of the music app. Like, this
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is a... it felt like a presentation of a music service by people who don't understand how
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to present services, and so they just presented an app and showed the music service inside
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the app, but I don't think that did a good job of showing it. Like, yes, we know
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how the music app works, but is the big story here that they revamped the music
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app or that there's a whole music service backing it? And it felt like at
01:17:26
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times that the music app was the story. There was also a really funny moment, I
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actually had to lean over to Dan Morin and say, did I just hear that right? Where
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he said, say we want to find an album. What we do is we tap on this button down
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at the bottom that says "Artists." And the answer is it's like a toggle for
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for all your different search types.
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But in that moment I was like,
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wow, that's really bad user interface design.
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To find albums, tap artists.
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To find artists, tap albums.
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Because it's never the thing you want to search for,
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it's the thing that you're already looking at.
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But again, I was like, this is an app demo
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and the service is the story,
01:18:00
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so why are you demoing the app and not the service?
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Jimmy Iovine's presentation was rambly and--
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- He either didn't care or was really nervous.
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I can't decide which one it was.
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And that one was amazing because I felt like
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if this was a third, somebody they carted out
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from some other, from a record company
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to make a presentation, they would have said,
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"Look, you got 30 seconds and then we're just gonna
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"come back out there and get you
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"and turn off your microphone."
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But he works for the company now.
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They can't turn off his mic.
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They can't use the big hook to pull him off stage.
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He works for Apple.
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So they just left him out there.
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And then they brought Drake out.
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And Drake, which was literally like,
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I mean, again, again, I think this is the difference
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between the tech industry and the music industry,
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music industry, it's like schmoozing and talking up the artists and all this stuff, and that's
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the problem I have with this presentation, I think fundamentally, in addition to it being
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undisciplined and way too long and having no focus, is that it didn't feel like it was
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about the consumers so much as about paying service to the music industry.
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Drake was supposed to come on stage to explain the connect feature.
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Yeah, to say this is what I'm really excited about connecting with my fans.
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Instead, he told his story.
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I don't know why he did that.
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And then went away again.
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That just...
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So, you know, I'm a Beats Music user.
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I think this...
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I'm excited about this.
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It sounds like Beats Music users will be able to log in at the end of the month and basically
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transfer all of their stuff over, I think, to Apple Music.
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I think any credit that you've got in Beats Music transfers to iTunes.
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There's a whole process that'll happen.
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It seems like most of the Beats Music features are there and then they've been maybe augmented
01:19:39
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a little bit, but, um, and they're doing this, uh, they're doing this radio station thing,
01:19:45
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which like, um, like, uh, like, podcasting is worldwide and immediate, which is nice,
01:19:51
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instead of like being in four countries that's gonna be everywhere, with your guy, Zane Lowe.
01:19:56
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So Zane Lowe's heading beats one. Now, I have a, I, I can see why they're calling it beats
01:20:04
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one because eventually there'll be beats two and there'll be beats three.
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Zane Lowe came from Radio One. Radio One's logo looks incredibly like Beats One's logo
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and I'm not sure why they have decided to go that route. I don't know if he advised
01:20:24
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on it and Apple have not done due diligence but there are...
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Trademark issues?
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channel that is DJ'd. That is not taking into account different music tastes. And it seemed
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like they will have other radio, but that's going to be the radio that they criticised.
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Which I didn't understand. The playlist radio. But there is going to be a curated radio which
01:21:06
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I will tune into because Zane Lowe is amazing. And do you know what they spoke about which
01:21:09
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I found so exciting? They said they are building radio programs. They are creating radio programs
01:21:17
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and they're hiring people to make those.
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They have three DJs, whose names I can't remember,
01:21:21
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and they're New York, LA, and London.
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- And the lady who was the London DJ
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was doing the voiceover for the video.
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- That's Julie in London.
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- Julie in London, there you go.
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And so the service looks to me exactly what I want.
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Apple did a horrific job of presenting that.
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- And that's what I was getting at, you know,
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is I can criticize the presentation.
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I think the service is really interesting.
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In fact, one of the reasons I feel like
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I have to criticize the presentation even more
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is that you can kind of forgive them
01:21:59
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from obfuscating something that's not any good
01:22:02
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and being like, "Look, look, fireworks, sparklers,
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"an elephant, woo!"
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There's this thing, it's the Motorola Rocker, yeah!
01:22:14
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But this looks good.
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It's Apple's first foray into music streaming subscription service.
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They mean business.
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They're putting it on Android.
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They mean business here.
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I know, right?
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And yet, so one of the reasons that I'm this critical of the way that they presented it
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is I think they did a bad job of presenting a good product.
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And that's offensive to me more than anything else.
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It's like, come on guys, you had this really interesting thing and you rolled it out in
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this just bloated egocentric, you know, and it doesn't help that there was that
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video not too much before this where they, where somebody literally compared
01:22:51
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the App Store to the Industrial Revolution. That was priming the pump a
01:22:55
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little bit of like, really? That is laying it on pretty thick. But the music thing
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just put it to shame. The, the, the Eddy Cue dancing to music and the karaoke
01:23:04
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references and the Jimmy Iovine's rambling and Drake not being sure why he
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was there like, you know, he just turned up.
01:23:12
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- They were writing jokes for him
01:23:13
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that he didn't understand, like the revolutionary,
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like it's three things, a revolutionary music service.
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- Oh, well that killed me that Jimmy Iovine was making,
01:23:19
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that slide makes reference to Steve Jobs thing,
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I thought that's where he was going,
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which is why everybody laughed.
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- He didn't get the joke.
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- And instead he's confused why people are laughing,
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he looks behind him at the slide, he goes, "Oh yeah!"
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Like, he doesn't really even understand what was happening.
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And that would have been funny,
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like Apple Music is three things,
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it's a revolutionary this, it's the, are you getting it?
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That would have been a funny bit.
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Instead, he was just confused and rambly and, you know.
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- Make a new endo.
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- It's saying something that Eddy Cue
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was the third worst presenter in that segment.
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There's Drake, we got Drake.
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Drake's at the top.
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- Ah, really far.
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- It was not good.
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So it's 90 minutes of good,
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and then there was this kind of like flabby,
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unfocused thing at the end to launch the service,
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and the services are better.
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Do you know what it's just done?
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What it's just done here, it's gonna do everywhere.
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We're talking about how bad the presentation was
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and not how good the product is.
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We haven't even said about how much it's gonna cost,
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we haven't spoken about any of that.
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- Which is why I was saying, this is really useful
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when you are trying to hide things.
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But when you've got something you wanna stand behind,
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unless this is like, well, let's analyze
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Eddy Cue's blinking for Morse code,
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perhaps he's sending secret messages to the music industry.
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And this whole thing is pitched at artists
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to get them excited because it certainly felt like, you know, music industry puffery about
01:24:40
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how great Apple is and artists and we love them and all of that instead of being pitch
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to consumers.
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Maybe that was the point.
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Maybe this is all about how, you know, Taylor Swift really ought to talk, you know, call
01:24:50
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at EQ and call Jimmy Iovine and get in on this great thing.
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But it's a shame if you're trying to make a clear message of this new service that you're
01:25:00
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you're launching.
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So it's $9.99 a month.
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First three months are gonna be free.
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It launches at the end of June.
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So people are gonna get to use it for three months for free.
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Then it's $9.99 a month or $14.99 a month
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for up to six members of your family.
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That uses iTunes family sharing to do that.
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But that means that your kids' music tastes
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are not recommended for you, which is key.
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That's important.
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And yeah, yeah, and Android. Android in the fall.
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So I'm looking at they've got a free tier, they've got a paid tier.
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So the free tier, you can view and follow artists on Kinect, you can listen to Beats 1,
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and you can listen to Apple Music radio stations.
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But you can't skip them.
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And then with the paid tier, you can skip the radio stations, like the Curate radio stations, that kind of thing.
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You can play and save connect content.
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You can like connect content or radio songs.
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Enjoy unlimited listening from the music library.
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Add stuff from the music library to your collection.
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Save for offline and get the expert music recommendations.
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That's what comes with paying for Apple Music.
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- And that's basically what we have now, right?
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That's like you're paying for Beats music.
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iTunes Match exists, it's sold separately.
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It's not integrated in any way.
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but if you want to skip or have access to the library, you pay.
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And then that I think it makes sense. I just am a little, it was weird.
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It was really weird that that struck me as a nice 15 minute, um,
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capper to the event. And instead it was this 30 minutes, just bizarre thing.
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It was like Merlin man summed it up greatly in an ask upgrade tweet to us.
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He said, for real, please explain Apple music slowly to me.
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It's beats plus iTunes match plus social something like, yeah. I mean,
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That was what they needed to explain.
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- Right, and it's not iTunes match.
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Yeah, it's iTunes match.
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When you think about it, it makes sense.
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iTunes match is more of a service for people who own music.
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but they did say that the stuff that you have bought
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- So it is kind of like iTunes match.
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- Yeah, as long as you're--
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- Well, if I buy a Taylor Swift CD and rip it,
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it's in my iTunes library for iTunes match,
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but I'm pretty sure if I'm just,
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if that's not on the service,
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then it's not gonna show up.
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- But that doesn't matter because you can just,
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I don't even know why they do it anyway.
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- I think it just shows up in your library automatically.
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I think that's the thing.
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- Maybe automagically.
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- Yeah, automagically.
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- That's even better.
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- So should we do this mask upgrade?
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- Yeah, let's do it.
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Let's do it.
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We'll move on.
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Enough negativity about--
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- I'm really excited about Apple Music.
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This is exactly what we have been speaking about.
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- I think the Beats 1 thing is really a cool idea too.
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Yeah, I love that. We've been talking about this on Connected for months and this is exactly
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what me and Federico want, but they were ham-fisted and awkward and just par quality.
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Maybe it'll be like having a baby, you know, in the end you get the baby and you don't
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- I have some follow up from Leon in the chat room.
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So this comes from Apple's pages.
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- Leon keeps pasting things in.
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See, I haven't read Apple's pages
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because I just went to the keynote.
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- We just walked right in.
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- All my information about Apple Music
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is the information content of the presentation
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about Apple Music, which as we've just detailed,
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it was not a lot.
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- Your entire library lives in iCloud
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when you're an Apple Music member.
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First, we identify all the tracks
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in your personal collection and compare them
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to add to the Apple Music library to see if we have copies.
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If we do, we make them instantly available in iCloud
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across all your devices.
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If you have music that's not in the Apple Music library,
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we upload those songs from iTunes on your Mac or PC
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and because it's all stored in iCloud.
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So it's available everywhere.
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So it is iTunes match.
01:31:09
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- Yeah, so basically iTunes match seems to be for people
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who don't wanna pay for a streaming service.
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then you just pay for iTunes Match.
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- Steven Hackett, ladies and gentlemen.
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- That's interesting.
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Well then, if that's the case,
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then I can just let my iTunes Match subscription lapse.
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- Mine renewed like a week ago,
01:31:26
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and I forgot about it. - Yeah, I wonder
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if I could talk them into transferring that into credit
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or something since I've already got, I don't know.
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But yeah, then it is, it has that feature inside it.
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- I have a small selection of Ask Upgrade.
01:31:38
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- Yes, we got a lot, and thank you everybody.
01:31:40
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- Yeah, we got a lot.
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We actually answered a bunch of them throughout the episode.
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So I've gone in and I've picked out the stuff
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that I think is left that we haven't yet spoken about.
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So this comes from Ben.
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What is the significance of Apple making Swift open source?
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This is something I don't really get.
01:31:57
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- Well, okay, my guess is that the advantage of that
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is that it can't be seen as a proprietary thing
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that Apple can run away with,
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that theoretically somebody could implement Swift elsewhere
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on other platforms and that would be okay.
01:32:11
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I'm not sure if it has any practical use or not.
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I would like to hear a developer who's familiar with platforms
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and languages and things like that talk more about it.
01:32:23
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I like that Apple's open about it and not trying to say,
01:32:25
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"No, no, this is ours. Stay away."
01:32:27
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-I guess listen to ATP, right? -Yeah.
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-You'll get what you need. -Yeah.
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Basically, I want to hear what Jon has to say about it.
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-Yeah. -So that's a follow-out,
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future follow-out.
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-From Nathan, would you have expected Apple
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to address stability or issues like discovery D in this venue?
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Or do you think they'll do this in other points
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at WWDC in the week?
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Or just completely gloss over it and just be like,
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"Just say what they said. We're making it better."
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-There's probably a session somewhere
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where they'll talk about it that's about,
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you know, some esoteric something involving
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low-level networking or networking APIs
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or something like that where somebody will say,
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"Oh yeah, we brought back the old one
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'cause it's more stable and thank you for your feedback
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and we'll bring back the new one once we're sure
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that it will work better or something."
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I think that'll be it.
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- And then we have from The Hexagon,
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what do you think of the new photo extensions for Mac?
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The idea that they're gonna have them,
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I mean, they kinda mentioned that this might be a thing.
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Yeah, what do you think about that?
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- It's good.
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The more extensions you can add to photos, the better,
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because that functionality,
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there's sort of base functionality there.
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And they suggested when they announced
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that Aperture was going away,
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I think they implied that that would happen,
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and it just hadn't happened with the 1.0.
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In fact, I think I wrote a little sidebar in my book
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about photos that says it's a 1.0,
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and it's entirely possible that their strategy
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is what it was with Final Cut,
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which is get the 1.0 out there,
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and then start adding in all those features
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that everybody's complaining that aren't there,
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but they couldn't do it all at once,
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so they'll roll them in,
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and maybe that's what we're looking at here,
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is rolling some of that stuff in now.
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- Rajeev asked, "Are you surprised
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"there was no announcement on photos
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"or iCloud storage pricing?"
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- I'm not surprised, I'm a little disappointed.
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I'm not sure that was necessary now.
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I think they could announce that at any point
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if they really wanna change their storage pricing.
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I do feel like it's too high and it's going to depress use of these services, but, you know, if that's--
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Apple has better numbers about that. All I have is my, you know, opinions.
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Apple has really good numbers about that sort of thing. I'm sure they have estimates internally about how well they think this is going to sell
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and how many people are complaining that they're out of space or whatever and what the size of the average photo library is
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and all these things that they probably know, and if they feel like they're not living up
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to what they expect and suspect that it's because their pricing is too high, then they'll
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change it. I don't think they need to do it today. I'm a little disappointed because it
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would have been, I want it to happen, I want them to be more competitive with their rates,
01:35:14
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but you know, they could do that. They could literally do that anytime and not even tell
01:35:17
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anybody and just change it. They don't even need an event or a press release.
01:35:22
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from Josh, does Notes still have the terrible paper background texture?
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I think so. Yeah, that's unfortunate I think. I wish they would have gotten rid of that.
01:35:32
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Maybe there's a preference to... I wish, I wish, there won't be, but I wish
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there was. I don't think there is. I think if they're
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gonna make the app more sensible and serious, I think they should treat the UI similarly,
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in my opinion. I think that I don't even understand why in the iOS 7 land it would still look
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like that and have like this text paper background.
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- The legal pad thing too is just baffling to me.
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- Post-it notes.
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- Yeah, very weird.
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- Not a fan of that, but we'll see what happens there.
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I think we've come to the end.
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- I think so.
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- We've reached the end now.
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- We're gonna be doing a bunch of shows
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from San Francisco this week.
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There's gonna be a lot more coverage of WVDC.
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You wanna check out Connected, Clockwise and Rocket.
01:36:14
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Gonna be a bunch of different angles on this stuff
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and we're gonna be covering it throughout the week,
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so you can check those out on relay.fm.
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There'll be a lot of interesting stuff there
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that you'll be able to treat your ears to
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throughout this week as we find out more about this stuff
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and talk about it as the week goes on,
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talk to developers, see what they think,
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and we'll be able to report back to you guys
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what the word on the street in San Francisco is.
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- That's right, we're here,
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we're high atop the relay towers right now,
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broadcasting live at, like Beats 1.
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These one will join us later, but we are broadcasting live worldwide with no release, no staggered
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release windows simultaneously worldwide right now.
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Just how we do it.
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From San Francisco.
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If you want to send us in feedback, follow up, that kind of thing, you know, you can
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always use #AskUpgrade for that stuff as well as your questions.
01:37:04
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You can speak to me and Jason personally on Twitter.
01:37:06
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Jason is @JSNELL, J-S-N-E-L-L-L, and I am @imike, I-M-Y-K-E. Jason will have some great
01:37:13
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coverage and thoughts and feelings about this stuff over at sixcolors.com so you can check
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him out there. I'm sure you'll be getting Dan to help you out with that as well.
01:37:20
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He's working on something right now, in fact. Wow, look at that.
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And then we'll be here for Clockwise on Wednesday, hopefully.
01:37:26
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Yep, so that would be really good stuff. So you can check that out. Thanks again to our
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sponsors this week, Mail Route, Hover, and Field Notes, and we'll be back next time.
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Say goodbye, Jason Snow. Goodbye, Myke Hurley, from a robot.
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