122: The 2016 Upgradies
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- From Relay FM, this is Upgrade
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and the third annual upgrade-ies.
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My name is Myke Hurley.
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Today's show, today's special episode is brought to you
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by our fine sponsors Encapsula, Casper and Squarespace.
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Mr. Jason Snell, we did it.
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This is the third upgrade-ies.
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Can you believe that?
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You you sound so happy. I'm so excited by the way. Happy new year. Happy new year to everybody out there in
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Upgrading land. I'm so excited like I know this is just one of those little things
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It was a silly idea that one of us had
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to fill up something at the end of the year and
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Now it's become what I consider to be a landmark in the podcast calendar is when will the upgrade ease happen and the other
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- Annual traditional. - It is a great annual tradition,
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yes, I agree.
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So here we are, we have all of our categories
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are returning from last year,
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and we have some great nominees,
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and as we mentioned on the show,
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this is the first time that we have allowed the Upgradians
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to have their literal say in how the Upgradies will go.
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So the way that we're gonna do this,
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we're gonna go through every category,
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list all of the nominees,
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maybe talk about them a little bit if they're interesting,
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some of the nominations, there are some interesting
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nominations in here.
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And then we're gonna go through who the upgrade ends picked.
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So what they wanted to win the upgrade.
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And then me and you are gonna then talk about
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what our personal votes for the winner are.
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And then between the two of us,
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we will decide who takes home the trophy.
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So we'll start the proceedings today
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with the best overall iOS application.
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The nominees for this app are Tweetbot
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Airmail, Narwhal, Workflow, 1Password, Overcast, Fantastical, Scrivener, Transmit, Castro,
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Ferrite. They are the top nominees. Now the Upgradients, Mr. Snell, they voted with a
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38% for Overcast, with 1Password coming in second place and Workflow coming in third
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Did you know that one, this is a little fact you may not be aware of, 100% of podcast listeners
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listen to podcasts.
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That is true.
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But you know, I will say that we have two podcast applications in our nomination list
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and only one of them went away with such a big lead.
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Castro got unfortunately only 2% of the vote, which I feel kind of sad about.
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So what is your pick for the best overall iOS app of the year?
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I am going to pick something that is not on the list because there were some late breaking
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I'm going to give a shout out to an app that I didn't put on the list because I felt it
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was a little esoteric but that I do love which is Ferrite.
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I've talked about it before, audio editor for iOS.
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It's fantastic. - Ferrite is in there.
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Very, very low down, yeah.
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Ferrite with 0.7% of the votes.
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- Ah, so you did mention Ferrite.
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I didn't hear you mention Ferrite.
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- Well, there was such a long list, I'm not surprised.
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But yeah, Ferrite had 0.7% of the upgraded vote.
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And that's what you're gonna pick
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'cause you're iOS app of the year.
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- I'm gonna pick, I'm gonna, for now,
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I'm gonna say it's a tie.
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Can I do ties?
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- You sure, why not?
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We make the rules here.
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- Okay, so for now, if I have to break this tie later,
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I will, but it's a tie between Fair Write,
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audio editor that's great, and Scrivener.
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- Ooh, okay.
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- The fantastic long form writing tool,
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which after many, many years of hope
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that it would come to iOS, came to iOS,
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and is not halfway done.
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It is a full completed, fully functional writing app.
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And it's great.
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And I'm impressed and it syncs
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and it syncs with the desktop version
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and all the important features are there.
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And it's very impressive.
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- So into category one, we're only at category one
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and we're already gonna have a problem.
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- Yeah, almost certainly, but that's fine.
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- This is how the upgrade is going.
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- Think about what I do, Myke, right?
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I do podcasts and I write.
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And so I picked a podcast app and a writing app.
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it was going to happen, it's inevitable. So what do you have?
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Now the reason that I've picked Workflow
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as the best overall iOS application,
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because I think throughout this entire list of apps,
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Workflow is the one that has just gotten better and better
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over time, more consistently.
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Like all of these applications that we've listed,
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they're in this list year after year,
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because they continue to get better.
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But the rate at which Workflow is improving
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is kind of astounding to me.
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like their recent addition of the ability to hook into web APIs.
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You know, for people that really heavily use workflow,
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this is such a huge advancement.
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Like, I think that this application is a must have application
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for anybody that wants to do anything other than just consumption on their iPad.
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Like some of the basic functions that it unlocks for you,
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once you really kind of understand how to use it is incredible.
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You know, I've spoken many times about my frustration with rich text on iOS.
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Now, but Workflow allows me to get around some of these things by allowing me to
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convert. So say, for example, when I send an email to somebody, I can use Workflow
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to convert Markdown to rich text and open up in an email.
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There's just no other way I can do that on iOS.
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Or like taking a Web page and turning it into a PDF.
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Like there are so many things that Workflow can do that mean that you don't have to
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buy other applications. Like there are standalone applications that you can buy
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in the App Store to take a web page and turn it into a PDF or you can just play
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around with workflow and build it yourself. And I don't think that there
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are many applications that are in the club that workflow is in of just like
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complete top tier for iOS apps and they just continue to make it better and
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better over time. I will also highly recommend the the Canvas podcast series
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about workflow that Fraser and Federico have done.
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That is really great, an in-depth multi-part series about how it works.
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And my only criticism about workflow is that I wish that they had more documentation.
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Like sometimes I look at some of the blocks that they've got and I wonder exactly how
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they work and there's kind of no way to look that up and that can be frustrating and I
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end up going to Federico and Fraser and saying, "What does this do?" and they tell me.
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That part I wish that they were better at documenting what everything does.
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Yeah, I agree.
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But luckily there are resources.
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You know, go to relay.fm/canvas and they have a whole series that they've been working on
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for the last three or four months, like building up from basics all the way up to the web API
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stuff that you can do with Workflow.
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So go check that out.
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So we have now, for our consideration, right at the top tier, kind of I guess the second
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stage, workflow, ferrite, scrivener, and overcast to pick from.
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In grand upgradey's tradition though, oftentimes we will reach a compromise where one of us
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will agree, right?
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We do our initial picks, this is how this—just to set it out there for people who don't
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remember—we will often come to a compromise agreement about what the upgradey choice is.
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Well there can be only one winner, so a compromise must be found.
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Yes, I agree.
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So my initial argument would be, Scrivener is very new.
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So giving it the overall iOS app pick
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over the newcomer pick is interesting.
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However, I don't want Scrivener to be the newcomer
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either 'cause I have my own thoughts there.
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Sometimes being mentioned, being nominated as an honor,
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being mentioned as a finalist is an honor,
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and then winning is yet another honor.
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And you don't have to have all the honors.
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I am happy to support your choice of workflow for the upgrade for best iOS app because I
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think you made a strong case and I agree with you.
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I think it's a fantastic app.
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So congratulations to workflow you are the best overall iOS app upgrade winner.
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Which takes us to our next category which I just teased which is the best newcomer iOS
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application.
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So this is the iOS app released in 2016 that is considered to be the best and on that list
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of nominees we have Airmail, Bear, Truecaller, Castro, Scrivener, Swift Playgrounds, Xfinity
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TV. Now there are two applications on here that most people probably have no idea what
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they are and they're both mine and Jason's potentially esoteric picks. So I will explain
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Truecaller. Do you remember when iOS 10 it brought around this new API that people can
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hook into the phone? Like you can do things like maybe voice over IP but you also had
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access to the call list. Truecaller is an application I found that I absolutely love,
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which is a spam caller notification system. So I can get a phone call from a known spam
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call like Robocall and it just shows up when someone's calling me to tell me that they're
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spam or if I go to a missed call on my phone I can open it like via the share sheet so
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you just like share contact and put it into Truecaller and it will tell me who it is and
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if it's been reported as spam. I love it because I get so many of these robo calls and because
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I have my phone on do not disturb most of the time these calls never come to me so I
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can just check them in my missed calls and know that there's no point dealing with it
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because it's like a scam caller or whatever. It's fantastic. So that's my picture. What
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is Xfinity TV?
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So I am a Comcast cable subscriber and after many months of complaining about how their
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app for iOS was terrible. They released this new app. And I mean, I put it on the list
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because again, Honor just to be mentioned in the list, right? I'm not going to pick
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it. But it's a pretty amazing piece of work because it provides when I'm out of the house,
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it provides access to any TV show that I'm allowed access outside of the house and there's
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some licensing restrictions there. When I'm in my house, it makes my iPhone or iPad essentially
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no different than a TV attached to a cable box. I can watch live TV from any channel,
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anywhere in my house on that device, and it supports picture in picture. That's pretty
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great. That's pretty good. That was like for me, that was like the moment where I thought,
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yes, finally, this is working exactly as I had hoped it always would. If I want to be
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out in the backyard in the hammock on a summer day and have some channel on while I'm reading
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something or whatever it is, like picture-in-picture, live TV, on-demand stuff, whatever, it's all
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there. And that's, for me, that's what the TV experience on an iOS device should be like.
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So full credit to Xfinity, they actually made it happen. And, you know, people can complain
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about some of the restrictions, like when you leave your home, you don't get to see
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all that stuff. And yeah, that's dumb, but that all comes down to deals with the content
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and they're inconsistent and as Apple has found that's a tough thing to do.
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But I have to say, in the home and from a pure technology standpoint,
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they did a really great job. It's a good app, so that's why I mentioned it.
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That sounds good. I wish I had something like that, right?
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I mean, I don't have cable, but like I can see that if I...
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I would like something like that, right? Like I've always lusted after a sling or something.
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Yeah, yeah. If you subscribe to a TV service, it should be like this,
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where you can see the channels and you can see what you can get on demand
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and you can start playing anything at any time
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and put it in picture in picture if you want on your iPad
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and this does that.
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So, but that's not my choice.
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- So the Upgradients, they voted with 34% of the vote
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for Swift Playgrounds.
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- I've never really used it. - It's pretty impressive.
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- So I can't comment on it, but that,
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I mean, I'm happy that it exists, right?
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Like I'm happy with the idea of this application existing
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because of hopefully what I consider to be the groundwork
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more developer tools coming to iOS in the future, which I think is an important step.
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But I will go with my pick first, and my pick for the best newcomer is AirMail.
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I think AirMail has its faults. It is not a perfect application. And I think part of the
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reason that it has some weird parts, some bugs and some stuff that doesn't work as reliably as
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you would like, is because it came out of the gate so powerful for an email application on iOS.
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I haven't found any app that comes close to what Airmail can do.
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And like Workflow, they have updated this application very consistently.
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I am on the beta now and they have some amazing things coming soon.
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Like this application just gets stronger and stronger.
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And this is an app that has a million settings.
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But for me, as somebody who is so reliant on email,
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I'm kind of okay with that because I get to make my email app be the way that I want it to be.
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One of the things that I really love in powerful email applications is one setting, and no other
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email app on iOS has this except for Airmail, which is to not mark a message as unread until
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it is acted upon. If I read a message, it doesn't do anything with it, it still remains unread.
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and I really like that, that works on my system and I've always wanted an
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iOS email app that would do this, there are a bunch of Mac apps that will do this
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I think even Apple's Mail app will do this on the Mac
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but nothing does it on iOS except Airmail but this is an example
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of the like super niche case stuff that you can find in Airmail but I think
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that kind of thing, that kind of level of
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of strange control you can have is kind of okay in an email application
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because everybody does it differently.
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And it has all of the features that you'd want,
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and it has a clear business model as well.
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You pay for the application.
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And I like that because there are not a lot
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of email applications that people use
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that are built that way.
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So it's gonna be airmail for me, Jason.
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- It's a good pick.
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I like it a lot.
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My choice in this category,
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it's the year of Swift Playgrounds.
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pick Swift Playgrounds as well.
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Yeah, I think we're going to have to give it Swift Playgrounds. If you pick it along
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with the vast majority I got from our listeners, it's got to be that. Again, I really appreciate
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Swift Playgrounds, but I couldn't cast my vote for it because I haven't really spent
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any time with it.
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And I have. I'm very impressed with it. The lessons... I can't comment on it from the
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perspective of like an Apple app developer trying to use the playground features of it
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to work on kind of like app ideas or things like that. But from the Pure, it's an educational
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tool. They built all of these different lessons to show people how to program and how to program
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in Swift. They did a great job. The lessons are impressive and it's a great... It's an
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an iPad-only app. It's a great use of the iPad, and we're champions of the iPad, you
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and I. And this is an example. I mean, this is one of the major things that Apple did
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for the iPad in 2016 as well was release Swift Playgrounds. But I think it's a great app,
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a great educational resource. And, you know, if there was a big, you know, a big story,
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especially on the iPad in terms of new apps this year, I mean, I think it's the year of
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Swift Playgrounds.
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I think with Playgrounds it's going to be, without a shadow of a doubt.
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There you go.
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There you go. Our best newcomer iOS application of 2016.
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We move on to the best overall Mac app. Unfortunately the two Mac app categories
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we have have a lot less nominees than iOS. It's funny how that happens.
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We have 1Password, Final Cut Pro X, FantasticOwl, BB Edit, Keyboard Maestro, and Audio Hijack.
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up there. The Upgradients voted were 48% for one password. You have Final Cut Pro and then
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Other coming at 11.8%. I don't think that our listeners were happy with the nominees
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that we put in here.
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Well, it says something that the one that got the most votes is Universal, in a way.
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to the idea of like everybody uses their Mac for these different purposes that are very
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specific I feel like this isn't surprising that 1Password cuts across it's a utility that
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cuts across sort of everybody's use cases and so that makes it different.
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Well she'll vote.
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I am going to vote for Audio Hijack and I know again I'm a podcast person so I have
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reason to do it but Audio Hijack which was the new version was released version 3 was
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was released last year, or sorry, two years ago now.
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Wow, I'm still writing 2016 on all my checks.
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The release in 2015, completely redesigned.
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And this year I've just come to appreciate it even more.
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I use it for anything involving, not even just recording,
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but routing audio around my Mac.
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I'm running it right now.
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You're hearing me, everybody,
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through a recording done via Audio Hijack.
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Just the whole design of it
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and functionality, it can do almost anything.
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I use it for my transcripts for analyst calls
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because it's got a basically like a DVR mode
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where it'll record the live audio
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and then let me pause it and back up and go forward again,
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which is pretty great with a system-wide keystroke.
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I know it's esoteric utility, but for me,
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it is my favorite, I have to say,
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in terms of being new and flashy and fun.
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And I use all of the apps on this list and they're all great, but I decided that I would
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give my extra shout out to Audio Hijack.
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I'm going with Final Cut Pro X.
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Now I have used Final Cut for a while for some basic stuff, but having got into the
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vlogging stuff, I have come to understand what a pro application can be.
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Final Cut Pro X, I know that a lot of people didn't like it when it came about because
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it was new, but everything that is new about it I'm sure is what I love about it.
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It is a good looking application with clear, understandable user interface that doesn't
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hide everything.
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And everything that I use with it, I love it.
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And one of the things that I find so interesting about Final Cut is if I have an idea for something
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that I want to do, I can find a way to do it in that app.
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as well as everything being nice and clear, Apple's documentation is incredible for Final
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Cut. You Google anything, I have not found this with any other level of Pro application,
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especially that Apple makes. No matter what I Google or how I Google it, like how do I
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do X in Final Cut, I will find an Apple support document that tells me how to do it, let alone
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the tutorials on YouTube that you find. So I have found Final Cut Pro X to be fantastic
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to work with over the last few months. And I have no consideration to try and use anything
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else, which isn't the same for Logic, right? So we use Logic for audio production, and
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every now and then I think to myself, "Shall I learn Audition like Adobe's?" I don't feel
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that way about Final Cut, because Final Cut is solid. It's a great app.
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I agree. A lot of the knock on Final Cut Pro X was that the professionals who were used
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to the old method of using Final Cut, didn't like it, and I totally get that, right? And
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Yeah, 'cause it's what you know.
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And I'm not a professional video editor, right? But like you, I'm somebody who--I mean, I've
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been editing video since I was a teenager in various forms. I was editing video back
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when you attached two VCRs together, and then we finally got a controller that let you control
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the two VCRs, but--right? I mean, I've been editing video in different forms for a very
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long time, but I'm not a professional, you know, film or TV video editor, anything like
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that. Final Cut Pro, anything I can think of that I want to do, it basically will do,
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and I can put something together very quickly and get it to look more or less exactly like
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I want, just in a staggeringly short amount of time. Like, drag this in, drop it there,
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resize it, slide it up there, have it animate and move from here to here and all that. I
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can do that really fast in Final Cut Pro. And generally I can figure out, I mean, some
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of it is esoteric, but I can figure out a lot of it just by kind of clicking around,
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just being a Mac user, I can figure out where everything is and how to use it. That's pretty
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amazing. So, I mean, for that, I do the total party kill videos with it, where I've often
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got like multiple cropped versions of different parts of the video stream and they pop on
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and off and stuff like that, and it's not a problem. I did that, the cars and trucks
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video that I did a couple weeks ago, that was all Final Cut. Final Cut was not the problem,
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right? Final Cut was the easy part because it made everything that I was doing easy.
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Yeah, I agree with you.
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So where are we going to go for winter? Now I would say that I would happily put a vote
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in for Audio Hijack as well. I use it every day and I use it for some basic things, but
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it's a great app. There's some stuff that I wished it could do that it doesn't do.
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Like I really wish that I could just live stream directly from Audio Hijack.
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I know, I've talked to Paul Kapasas at Rogue Amoeba about that and because they've got
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a separate product right, Nicecast, I wish that they would just, you know, yeah.
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They would just sell a way to integrate that.
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Sell Nicecast and let it be a plug-in or something like that. I think there's a business model
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problem there honestly which is that that's a separate product that's got a separate price
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and they don't want to...
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- Paying in that purchase, I would give them
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whatever they need, you know?
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- I think the challenge is, I don't think they wanna force
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people who only use NiceCast to also buy AudioHijack.
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But I know they've got three amazing utilities
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and I wish they all kind of worked out of the same interface
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instead of sort of in separate places.
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But I do love that and I'll agree with the listeners too.
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OnePassword, I use it every day.
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I can't imagine using my Mac without it
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And on the new Touch Bar MacBook Pro, let me tell you,
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once you've unlocked your one password lock
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on a Mac with your fingerprint,
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well, you do that on iOS, right?
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Once you do that on your Mac with a fingerprint
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and then you go back to a,
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like an iMac or something like that,
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it feels wrong.
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I'm like, oh, I've gotta enter my password again, right?
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I was like, you get used to it really quickly.
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They did a great job of integrating, right, you know,
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day one, basically,
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with a Touch ID sensor on the MacBook Pro.
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So my feeling like, I mean, I could also go for 1Password, right?
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Because the same thing, it's like it's one of my favorite applications, but it's
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everywhere. And I really want to give this award to a Mac app.
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Yeah, right. Like 1Password does and can exist on every platform, which is why it
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makes it so useful. But there's just something about like with the discourse of
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last year, which is obviously going to continue about the Mac and where is the Mac
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going. Like, I feel like I want to give the upgradeee to a shining star of Mac development.
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Like an application that can only exist on the Mac and does a great job using everything
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that the Mac is good for.
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Yeah, well, and this is my conflict here is that I think this is the year where you started
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doing lots of video and I'm doing more video and so on that level this is the year where
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would be perfect for us to pick Final Cut. At the same time, picking an Apple product,
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you know, we can do it.
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>> No, I'm happy for Audio Hijack. Seriously.
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>> But this is what I'm saying is, but Audio Hijack from a Mac developer and it's, let's
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not forget, it's doing things that, I gotta say, like half of what Audio Hijack does at
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least, the system should do.
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fixing problems that Apple have in the system of audio.
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Because Apple doesn't care about audio stuff in its operating systems, apparently. It is
00:25:11
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mind-boggling to me that you can't route application audio in Mac OS as a basic thing, but you've
00:25:18
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never been able to do it. It's just never been a thing, and AudioHijack does it with
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a few clicks. So, alright, let's do it.
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So the nominees for best newcomer Mac application are Bear Notes, Siri, Loopback, Air Sonos,
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And I don't even know if we can count this one, but you put it in a closed beta of an
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application called Forecast. Now, give me your pick and then we can go into somebody's
00:27:23
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in a bit more detail.
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Well my pick is Forecast. Figuring it probably won't win, and it's totally unfair because
00:27:32
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this is not a product anybody can get yet. But I checked with the developer, and even
00:27:37
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though it's a private beta, the developer has talked about it enough publicly that I
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I can at least mention it. So forecast is Marco Arment's Mac app.
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- That like, I'm gonna learn how to be a Mac developer.
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And as a podcast person, again, you know,
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I'm not trying to represent everybody here.
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I'm trying to--
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- We're bias in our picks based on our work.
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- Totally, totally.
00:28:00
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And that's just, these are the upgrade-ies, right?
00:28:02
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These are not, you know, from a staff of 20.
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These are two podcasters. - It's not the 80s.
00:28:06
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- Exactly right, exactly right.
00:28:08
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I got my Eddy award behind me.
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which everybody asked me what did I win it for?
00:28:13
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And the answer is I won it for running the Eddy Awards
00:28:15
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for like 15 years.
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That's how I won it.
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- Best Eddy Award Coordinator.
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- Yeah, exactly right.
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So what Forecast is, and I hope Marco finishes it
00:28:24
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and releases it, 'cause I think it's very good
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and I think it's releasable soon.
00:28:27
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I think he maybe just doesn't wanna do the,
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he's working on other projects
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and I think that he doesn't wanna be distracted
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by support, honestly.
00:28:37
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And that's the challenge with a lot of apps
00:28:39
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that scratch the developer's itch
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is when they get them working to their satisfaction.
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There is this moment of like,
00:28:44
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I could just keep this myself
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and not have to answer to other people
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and fix the bugs that they find that are weird
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if it always works for me.
00:28:52
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But it's an app for tagging
00:28:55
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and encoding podcast files, basically.
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So you can either drag on an MP3 and update the tags,
00:29:02
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or you can drag on a WAV or an AIFF,
00:29:04
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the output that comes out, in my case, from Logic,
00:29:06
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the edited version, and you drag it in,
00:29:09
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and you can set the encoding quality
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and it actually encodes in the background.
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So if you've got it set to a sort of the one you always use
00:29:18
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and when you drag it in,
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it starts encoding it in the background.
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And then meanwhile, while it's doing that,
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you can put in the name.
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It tries to guess based on the file name,
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like here's the art you wanna use
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and here's probably the name
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and here's probably the number
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and you fill in the title and you write in the description.
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And if you've got chapter markers in logic,
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it puts those down or you can add them or edit them.
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So you edit chapter marks as a part of this too.
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And then you basically press Command + S
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and you get your podcast MP3 out.
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And it's pretty good.
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There's some bugs 'cause it's a beta.
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The chapter editing support is weird.
00:29:51
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And I mentioned it to Mark Owen.
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He said, "Oh yes, I should use that feature."
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But because he's using it direct from Logic
00:29:58
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and occasionally I have to add chapter markers
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after the fact.
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But it's pretty great.
00:30:02
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It will be a great utility for any Mac podcast creator
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out there when it is released to the public and I hope that is in 2017.
00:30:12
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If you noticed the shows that I produce, if you noticed the metadata get better, like
00:30:18
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episode artwork and all of the metadata being put in the ID3 tags and all that stuff, it's
00:30:23
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because I use forecast to encode every single show that I'm a part of.
00:30:29
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I think I am the, maybe me and you will tie for this, the biggest stress tester of forecast
00:30:38
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and I have broken it in many interesting ways.
00:30:42
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A three hour podcast will kill it.
00:30:43
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Well, it used to.
00:30:45
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But I think I helped Michael fix that.
00:30:46
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So will a two minute long podcast, it turns out.
00:30:50
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And you know what, again, whilst I will underscore that it is unfair to put this in here because
00:30:55
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people can't get it.
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It totally is.
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It's not going to win.
00:30:58
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I vote for it, but I won't based on the grounds that it's not publicly available.
00:31:03
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And also any chapters that you ever see put into a show because of forecast.
00:31:08
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It's the easiest way that I've found to do it because you tag the chapters in the logic
00:31:12
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project and then it reads them, which I think is fantastic.
00:31:16
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Again, and I would just once, whilst we're talking about chapters, just mention I put
00:31:21
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chapters in when I think chapters are needed.
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I don't think chapters are needed in every episode of every show ever made.
00:31:28
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Anyhow, don't email me.
00:31:33
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Don't email anybody because you can give me your argument but it's not going to change
00:31:37
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It's just my opinion.
00:31:39
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I understand why they're there but I really don't think that chapters for every topic
00:31:45
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in every tech show is worth the time with the producer for the amount of people that
00:31:50
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That's my personal opinion on this.
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Anyway, I'm going to pick bare notes.
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because it's great on the Mac and on iOS.
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It's my new markdown text editor.
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I don't use it as a notes application.
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There are some things that it doesn't do very well,
00:32:06
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like conflicts, which Apple Notes does perfectly,
00:32:09
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deals with conflicts without even shaking,
00:32:11
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but Bear will add new notes in as conflicts,
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which is the worst way to deal with conflicts.
00:32:16
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But for what I use it for,
00:32:18
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which is to write the scripts for our podcast ads,
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it's perfect because I'm able to tag things really easily
00:32:25
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so that I'm able to find them.
00:32:27
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I can tag them by sponsor, I can tag them by month and year.
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So it's all sorted nicely, like into these little buckets
00:32:33
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which I can pull from.
00:32:34
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And it's just, it's really great.
00:32:35
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I'm able to, one of my favorite features,
00:32:38
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let's say I write some content,
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but I need to put it into the system later.
00:32:42
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I will make a new task in OmniFocus to add it to the system
00:32:45
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and I can grab a URL of the bare note.
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So I can just click URL in OmniFocus,
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it takes me right to the note.
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Just simple things like that.
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It's a really nicely built app.
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Those are great themes.
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You can use some great fonts.
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It's very, very nice.
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So, actually, did I mention that Bear
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was the Upgrading winner as well?
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- No, you didn't.
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- It won with 32% of the votes,
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with Siri winning at 29%,
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although I don't actually think Siri counts as an app,
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but I know why I put it in there.
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- I don't think so.
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- What is Airsonos?
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- So Airsonos is not an app, sort of.
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It's a bunch of scripts that you install.
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I wrote about it at Six Colors, that you install,
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and it allows you to airplay to some of the speakers.
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- That's very useful actually.
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- And I wish somebody would bundle it together
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as like a Mac app that you could run,
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but it's one of these open source projects
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where there's a script running
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and so you basically have to run it from the terminal
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and it's not very friendly.
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But it totally works and it's great.
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And I just, I have it, you know, what you have to do,
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you say no bueno, but what basically you do
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is you create a terminal command document
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that like, and put it in your startup items.
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- I don't even know what a terminal command is.
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- Okay, well, bless your heart.
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- I know, I'm from a different age.
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- The other app that's in here is Loopback,
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which I just wanted to mention, which is also rogue Amoeba.
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This is another piece of their puzzle of audio apps.
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- 10% of the votes for Loopback.
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- Yeah, that's pretty wild.
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That's all of our friends who make podcasts, I guess.
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But it's, again, the system should support this,
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which is being able to have virtual inputs and outputs
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so that you can arbitrarily say,
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I wanna put my output over there and route it in here
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and loopback adds a piece of the puzzle
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that is not provided by AudioHijack
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that adds to the just, it's yet another thing
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that adds to your audio flexibility.
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If you ever do anything involving audio on the Mac,
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it's another option that gives you even more power
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and it was needed.
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There have been some other utilities that do this.
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Some of them broke when we went to,
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I wanna say Lion broke, like all the audio utilities.
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And it's been a long claw back to getting stuff available.
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And then there's some that are out there now that do this.
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- Not very gracefully.
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- Yeah, I've had interface-
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- Sound flower, we're off and on.
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- There's interface confusion problems
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that Loopback doesn't offer.
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Loopback's interface is much clearer.
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And also there's some performance issues
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where some of those utilities
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that I won't mention by name,
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when they're running my whole Mac is slow.
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And that is-- - That's not good.
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- And I can keep loop back on and it is fine all the time.
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So it's a good one.
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- For some somehow 7% of the vote was cast for forecast.
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- Yeah, isn't that nice?
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- And I'm not sure how that many people--
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- It's just Marco voted again and again and again.
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Casey voted again and again and again.
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I think well, I think you chose Bear
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and the people chose Bear, so Bear's the winner.
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- I think so, I think it's a good winner,
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'cause there is some, this is super niche,
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they're just, look, this is the problem,
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there just aren't a lot of new Mac apps.
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- It's true. - There really isn't.
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- It's true. - There are lots of updates.
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- I picked an unreleased beta, Myke,
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I picked an unreleased beta.
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- And a pile of scripts.
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- And a pile of scripts. - And an Apple feature.
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- And loopback, yeah.
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- An OS feature, a pile of scripts,
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and an unreleased application made it
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into the category there.
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Thank you to Encapsular for supporting the newcomer Mac app.
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Game of the Year.
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Now this is always an interesting one because Game of the Year on upgrade is not Game of
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the Year on remaster or destruction.
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Game of the Year here is very different because me and you play very different games.
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I tend to play the games that you play but you don't always play the games that I play.
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I'm more of a gamer than you. However, this is the list of Game of the Year. No Man's
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Sky. Now, a lot of people would say, "How dare you?" but I love No Man's Sky.
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But it's in there. Uncharted 4, Pokemon Sun and Moon, Firewatch, and Job Simulator. They
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were the picks.
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Yeah, and I added one late that didn't get added. Job Simulator I didn't see on my list
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either. I think you added that late.
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I added that. I added that. What did you add?
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Inside, yep, that's a good one.
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The game of the year is the highest percentage of other votes ticked with 21% of votes for
00:37:27
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But there was nothing that really came out in there which was bigger in voting than any
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of the other categories so I didn't break them out.
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It doesn't surprise me because we have an esoteric list.
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We have a game that was widely panned, No Man's Sky, but I loved it.
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Pokemon game which is you know, it's not even a main console game, but I think very important.
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Firewatch which is a short storytelling game. Job Simulator which is a VR only game.
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And then we have Uncharted 4 as kind of our only big what would be considered in the game of the year
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categories of like polygon or something.
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Now I'm gonna say, now I actually added Job Simulator late and it's actually gonna be my vote for game of the year.
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2016 was the year of virtual reality, right?
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It's one of the big technology themes of the year.
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This was the year where it first started to be a thing that people could have in their
00:38:22
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And of all of the games I've played on all VR platforms, I haven't had as much fun as
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I've had in Job Simulator.
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It is a game set in 2050 where you are going to a human museum because the world is run
00:38:39
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And the Human Museum is a set of interactive exhibits where you get to play the part of
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the human in human jobs. You can play in an office, in a car mechanic, in a store.
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Yeah I played in the convenience store.
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Oh you played Job Simulator?
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On Twit or on the screensavers. We did a whole VR segment and I was getting the hot dog out
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of the bin and stuff.
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How much fun is Job Simulator?
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It's pretty fun.
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Because my favourite thing about this game is if you think you can do something, you
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There is an office game and there's a photocopier in it.
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And if you put your hand in the photocopier, it doesn't make a photocopy, it actually
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reproduces any item that goes into it.
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Because it's funny, a lot of it is how would robots have interpreted us?
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And it's like they see it as a copy machine in that it will copy anything.
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It's hilariously funny.
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are all these little jokes, there's tons of like little quips in there and things you
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can find out. It's hilarious to play and it's a ton of fun. And everyone that I've had try
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Job Simulator has got as much of a kick out of it as I have. So I'm gonna go with Job
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Simulator even though I will also cast a vote for what I think will end up being our game
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of the year. What is your pick?
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My pick is going to be my late addition as well, which is Inside.
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We ruined this one, didn't we?
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We totally blew it.
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Inside, which we did an incomparable episode about, is...
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I don't even want to say too much about it.
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It is a side-scrolling game that...
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So you're just going from left to right.
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you can't, you know, there's no depth to it. It is amazing though. It is, it is from play
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dead. It's got lots of surprises. I don't even want to talk about what the surprises
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are. You start out in your running and somebody is chasing you and the story progresses from
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there in increasingly surprising ways. And I don't want to say that there's a plot twist
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because there isn't a plot twist. The story just keeps changing and progressing as you
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go. The play mechanics are fun. I played it in like five hours, four hours. I think John
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Sarecusa calls these the artsy-fartsy games. You know, it's not a triple-A console title
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with 40 hours of playtime or something like that, and that's fine with me because I kind
00:41:12
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of don't like those games. These are the developers of Limbo, which is available on iOS. This
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a console and steam game and I thought it was great. So, uh, Incomparable 3.18 is the
00:41:30
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episode where we talked about it. Yeah. Limbo 2 or is it Limbo Zero? But it's very good.
00:41:36
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Very good game. The Upgradients voted with a 34% majority for Firewatch with Other coming
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in at 21% and then Uncharted 4 coming in at 14%. Now I would happily give Firewatch our
00:41:52
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game of the year.
00:41:53
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Yeah, me too.
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Because it's a game that we have both played and both really enjoyed.
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I have not yet played Inside and I'm not going to play it for a long time because I had a
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spoiler. I know the end. So I want to try and forget it before I play it. It's the same
00:42:10
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a journey. I did the same with Journey. I got spoiled and then waited for many years
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before I played it so I would be a bit more fresh to it.
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So Firewatch, it's got to be, I mean, it's a fantastic game. I've really, really enjoyed
00:42:24
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it. It's another of these artsy fartsy games. But also we have the tie to, you know, the
00:42:30
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Mac community and the Apple community through Panic who kind of funded and I guess helped
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to the development of the game. It's made by a game studio called Campo Santo, which
00:42:40
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Panic are heavily involved in. It's like a symbiotic relationship. I don't know the complete
00:42:46
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details, I don't really think they talk about them, but I know that there's financial backing
00:42:50
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there from Panic. Absolutely fantastic game with a really great story. One of the games
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that really made me think a lot this year and actually feel something. So Firewatch
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has got to be our upgradey winner for Game of the Year.
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Next up, if you were wondering, where are all the iOS games?
00:43:09
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Well, they're in their own category with iOS game of the year.
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This list here, PewDiePie's Tuba Simulator,
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Mini Metro, Super Stickman Golf 3, Inks,
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Pokemon Go, Really Bad Chess and Super Mario Run.
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Super Mario Run added late in the category
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because we've had this voting up for longer than that game has been out.
00:43:29
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There's a couple of games in there that I want to just give a shout out to,
00:43:33
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in case you've not heard of them. PewDiePie's Tuber Simulator is just a silly free-to-play
00:43:39
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game in the usual style of waiting for timers to complete, but it's made really well. It's
00:43:45
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the best of these types of games I've ever played, and it's made with a lot of humour.
00:43:49
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If you enjoy PewDiePie's work, which I know that maybe for listeners of this show there
00:43:53
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might not be that many people, I am one of the people that does, and I think this game
00:43:59
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is an example of what is good about Felix, who is PewDiePie. This is where he shows his
00:44:06
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smarts rather than his stupidness. And I prefer the smart guy as opposed to the crazy guy.
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Inks is another game. It is an absolutely beautiful pinball game in which you have to
00:44:20
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shoot a pinball into colours and then when the pinball hits the colours it draws the
00:44:27
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color or wherever it goes around the pinball table. It's absolutely beautiful. Can you
00:44:32
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explain Really Bad Chess?
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- Really Bad Chess, I wrote about this at Six Colors, it is a chess game and, you know,
00:44:40
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I'm one of those people who thinks chess is kind of boring. I learned how to play it and
00:44:43
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I was really interested in it for a short period of time and then I realized like, I
00:44:48
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just I don't have the focus for it. I don't like I just I'm not I'm bad at it. But Really
00:44:55
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Bad Chess is a great spin on it because it's a chess game where you get a different sort
00:45:01
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of a random assortment of pieces, and the way that you level up basically is that you
00:45:09
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start with a huge power disparity between you and your opponent and then over time as
00:45:13
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you win, the disparity gets less and less. There are also daily and weekly challenges
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where everybody plays the same board. So you can have one where you've got two queens and
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four nights or something like that and and a bunch of ponds and you know and
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three castles and you know or rooks no matter how you say it I was simplifying
00:45:34
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there because people don't know what the rook is the castle the night it's a horse
00:45:39
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anyway I learned about so if you know how to play chess but you find chess
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kind of boring really bad chess is actually really good so I it's a lot of
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fun, really fun game.
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- Jason, cast your vote for iOS game of the year.
00:45:52
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- I think the iOS game of the year came late to iOS.
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It was on other platforms before, but you know what?
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It's mini Metro.
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I really love mini Metro.
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That is my, that is my game of the year.
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I still go back to it.
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It is a, it is a, you know, transit simulator sort of,
00:46:09
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but you it's got this pleasing kind of background sound
00:46:12
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that changes as you play.
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And the iOS interface is perfect for it
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because you're drawing connections
00:46:17
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between the different Metro stations as your city grows.
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It brings back all the things that I loved
00:46:23
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about something like SimCity, but it's simple
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and it never gets too complicated
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beyond what the basics are.
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The city gets bigger and there's more traffic,
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but it never gets to the point where you realize
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that you've got to learn all these other things
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that are a whole extra level of complication.
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They keep it simple, which means it's kind of Zen-like
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and I really like that about it.
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My only complaint about it is that they have not yet done
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what they've said that they would do on iOS,
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which they've done on other platforms,
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which is provide an endless mode,
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which is basically after you die in the game
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that you just get to keep playing and building your city.
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Because as we found with Alto's Adventure, actually,
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which has gotten an update to do this this year,
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sometimes you don't actually want to play the game
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from the beginning, you just want to keep playing it.
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And the point is not to rack up the high score.
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The point is to sort of reach that kind of enjoyable state
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where you're playing.
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It's what the some city developers used to call
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a software toy where it's like you're not really playing
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a game anymore, it's just like a toy you're playing with
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and having a good time and feeling good.
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- What a great term.
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- And yeah, software toys, yeah, that was Max's always said
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that SimCity was more of a software toy than a game.
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And I think that's accurate, right?
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There's kind of no way to win really.
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And I think Mini Metro would do well to have that on iOS
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like it has on other platforms where you just keep,
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you know, when it's done, you built the city
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and it's sort of like, it's sad 'cause it's over.
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And it's like, no, no, I wanna see what happens next.
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I don't care if it doesn't count for my total points or whatever, I just want to keep building
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this city and I would like to see that.
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But it's a great game.
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I made a video about it on Six Colors, it's great, I love it, and that is by far my favorite
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iOS game this year.
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I'm not picking my favorite game.
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I'm picking a game that I think should win.
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And it shouldn't win because it's a good game.
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Pokemon Go is not a good iOS game.
00:48:14
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No it's not. It's not even really a good game.
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Neither is Mario Run. Oh, Mario Run is maybe a good game, it's not a good iOS game.
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Well, it's a good Nintendo game on iOS, that's what it is.
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Yeah. That's what it is. Yeah.
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Well that's what it is, right? But like, you know.
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For the values of good Nintendo game which include that the part that's good is the game part and everything around it is junk, just like on Nintendo, yes.
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That's actually, it is a perfect simulation of Nintendo. It's everything I like and dislike about Nintendo on iOS.
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But that's all they could ever do. They could never do it differently.
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Pokemon Go is a phenomenon. Was a phenomenon.
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You know, maybe isn't so much now, but there has never been
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an iOS game that was able to do what Pokemon Go did.
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And I don't think there will ever be another one.
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I think it's a shame that they squandered it, right? Because they had some aspects of it they
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got exactly right to make it become a success, but they couldn't do whatever was required to keep it.
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I would say squandering is not the right word. I would maybe say that they just couldn't
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capitalize on it.
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Okay, that works too. Yeah, that there should have been more, the world should have opened
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up after a month or so, so people would keep playing it and they seemed to not have any
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capable-- it took them by surprise to the point where they were just trying to keep
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their heads above water rather than doing what they needed to do.
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I don't think they were able to do anything more.
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Yeah, I agree.
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The things that would have been needed and the things that will still come to that game
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could never have been done in the timeframe that was required
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whilst also trying to put out the fires
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in their service and infrastructure.
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- Well, that's exactly it.
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Its success sort of killed it before they could do things
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like add player versus player and a little bit of leveling
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so that if you weren't the hardcore grinder at Pokemon GO,
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but were more of a casual player, you couldn't battle
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because you were too low level.
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And it was very apparent from the beginning
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that it was going to hit a wall if they didn't make changes.
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And I think the server demand meant
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that they didn't have the ability to make changes fast enough.
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It's too bad.
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But I do think it's the future of gaming.
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I think that there will be more games that do Pokemon Go
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and do it better and that will change mobile gaming
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by doing stuff like this.
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I do think we'll see more of this.
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- Yeah, the idea of the streets in big cities
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all around the world being flooded
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with people catching Pokemon,
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that was always going to be a flash in the pan thing.
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just maybe the flash was a little bit shorter than it could have been if the game was actually
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designed better to begin with. Like it was never going to be that in a year's time everyone
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was still doing this. To people that always would be, you know that people will continue
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to play this game for a long time, I have friends that still play it. I just got bored
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of it as I do many, many games really. Like I'm somebody who will play a game for a long
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time and then just stop. And they may not have ever finished it, I just get bored of
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it and move on. But like the thing in Pokemon Go is there's just never been anything like
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it and it cannot be ignored. I feel like it had to be spoken about because you know I
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would go to a park and everyone was playing. Everybody. You know it really really was an
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absolute phenomenon. Now I really love Mini Metro. I really love Mini Metro. I'm very
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set on Pokemon though. Well that's fine because the listeners are with me. Yep we're gonna
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go with it. I mean I don't want to bend so I'm happy that the listeners are with you
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because I don't want to bend on this one. Here's what I would say is best, you know
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I view this as a best of the year category and I can't endorse Pokemon Go as a best.
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I can agree with that. I can agree with that which is why I'm not gonna try and convince
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you to go with Pokemon because I think Mini Metro is probably the highest quality or one
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of the highest quality games released this year. So I am very happy for it to win the
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upgradey but I just think you know and as we haven't you just can't overlook the phenomenon
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that has Pokemon Go. So Mini Metro is the winner of the 2016 upgradey award for the
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iOS game of the year. Now we move into one of the two categories that I have very little
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to say in and that is the favorite movie category. The nominees for favorite movie this year
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are Star Wars Rogue One, Arrival, Marvel Civil War, Captain America Civil War, Doctor Strange,
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and for some reason Batman vs Superman.
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L.O.L. in brackets.
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Just kidding.
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JK. Now the reason that I can't help with this is I've only seen one movie on this
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list because I just I don't know what happened to me but in the last couple
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of years I just don't really see movies anymore. I don't know why that is but
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that's just something that changed. So I will pick Star Wars Rogue One. I really
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liked this movie but it's the only one that I've seen. I'm disappointed that
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myself for having not seen Civil War and Doctor Strange because I love the Marvel
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superhero movies. Maybe I have to make that a New Year's resolution to try and
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see more movies this year. Yeah that's a good one. That's a that's the easy kind
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of New Year's resolution. See more movies. Enjoy something. Yeah entertainment. The
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listeners, the upgrade-ians, they also went with 44% for Star Wars Rogue One.
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However, Star Wars Rogue One was winning this category in the week before
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before the movie came out.
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- It was suspicious, wasn't it?
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- So I think, I mean, I don't know how this is gonna make
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the Upgradians feel, that their vote should not count
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in this because I feel like there were people
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that were voting for that movie out of just love
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for the franchise.
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And frankly, I think I liked the movie,
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but I think it under delivered on what I expected
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it was gonna be, which was like,
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this is gonna be as great as Force Awakens, which it wasn't. It was a really good movie,
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but it wasn't a really good Star Wars movie, in my opinion. I really liked the movie a
00:54:27
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lot, I really did, but it didn't live up to the expectations that I had for it based on
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how good Force Awakens was.
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Yep, so my pick is not gonna help here either, because I picked Arrival. I think Arrival
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was my favourite movie of the year.
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I'm happy for Arrival to win because I know that people really really like it. Plus it
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was the second place winner for the Upgradians and I wonder if people were voting 100% honestly
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how it would have gone. But I've seen a lot of buzz about Arrival from people that I know
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that really like movies and whose opinion I trust on it. So I'm happy for Arrival to
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win the Upgrady.
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That's fine. I would be happy for Force Awakens again for Rogue One to be the first one to
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get it because I did like that movie but it wasn't, you know, it wasn't my favorite movie
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of the year. So I'm curious about the Star Wars votes. I'm analyzing the spreadsheet
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right now and finding out who voted. Oh yeah, wow. Well, no.
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- That was quite a lot. - So when did it come out? It came out on
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the 16th mm-hmm no they're there I would say Myke there are there are a lot of
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votes in here from okay from after then I just said yeah I'm sure that's the
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case but I'm not sure how many there were before but we put the vote in up I
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think about four or five days before and it was winning by a landslide at that
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point yeah that's true there are definitely some votes in there that
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would have to be thrown out but again I'm happy for Star Wars Rogue One to win
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it because I really did like the movie you know like that say it may if I saw
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all of these movies, I may think it was the best movie I saw this year, but like, it wasn't
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the best Star Wars movie that I've seen in the last two years, you know?
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- But yeah, if you want to go with Rogue One, we can go with it.
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- Well, it was the listener choice.
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And it was the...
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- It's my choice.
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- The mic choice by default, which is the least exciting way to win anything.
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Let's, okay, I'm doing some key data analysis here.
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Rogue One came out on the 16th of December.
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Yep, we're discounting all the votes prior.
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Yeah, so that's 103 votes that we received before it was released.
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That's a lot. It's like a quarter of all votes cast.
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So if I remove those votes, it only has 105 votes, which is still more than the second place number.
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Okay, but do you see what I mean? That's like half of the votes that it received were cast before it was released.
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before it was released. And not all of them were at the red carpet premiere. Not everybody,
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some I'm sure, a large percentage. Or are from Todd Vaziri at ILM who has seen the movie
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a few times. So Upgradians, we gave you a big opportunity this year. Don't make us take
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it away from you next year. You disappointed dad. Mm-hmm. Star Wars Rogue One wins the
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Todd you did a great job if you're out there.
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Now, we move on to our favourite mic at the movies of the year from Upgrade.
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I only took the voting from Upgrade.
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Now my intention for this category was for people to vote for their favourite segment,
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not the favourite movie.
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And I don't think I made this clear enough.
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So we had three votes here because we only did three Myke at the Movies this year, we're
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going to have to change that for next year.
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Gremlins, Home Alone, Wrath of Khan.
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I chose Gremlins because it was the most fun that I had out of the three of these because
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the two of us just got to be up on a movie together which is very different to the way
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that Myke at the Movies tends to go.
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So I enjoyed Gremlins a lot.
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Now I believe, my inclination here, because the Upgradients voted 46% Home Alone, 36%
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Wrath of Khan and 14% of Gremlins.
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My belief here is that people voted for their favourite movie out of that selection.
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That's my feeling.
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Just because, like, the Home Alone one was fun, but I feel like the Gremlins segment,
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Gremlins episode was better than the Wrath of Khan episode because we had a lot of laughs.
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I liked the Wrath of Khan episode a lot because it was... I was really under the gun with
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that one because that is one of my very favorite movies of all time.
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You were flying close to the sun there.
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Yeah, and you went into it like Star Trek movies? What? And with nothing to...
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dread is how I went into that movie. Yeah and you and and you ended up liking it which was like
00:59:20
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that was that gets like I get extra multiplier points for having survived that. I agree.
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Graze of the sun and so that for me I felt such great relief and also seeing that movie through
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the eyes of someone who has never seen it before was fascinating. I you know I yeah I don't know
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Gremlins, it's hard to mix the feeling about that we had a fun time sharing our dislike
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for it by the fact that I had to watch it.
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That's true.
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I mean, I would happily go with Rafa Khan because I agree with everything that you said.
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Because for me, it was a great thing because I was really dreading a movie and then I actually
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went in and enjoyed it on its merits of being a good movie.
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Yeah, how about that?
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Not this was a good Star Wars, Star Trek story.
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In the early 80s, yeah, you've just turned off the entire audience.
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But yeah, John Seracu says, "Thrown down his iPhone right there."
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Everybody's--it's so many broken devices.
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Because I don't really have a lot of Star Trek knowledge.
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Hence why I get the names mixed up.
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So yeah, I've got--should we go Wrath of Khan?
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Wrath of Khan segment in Myke at the Movies is the upgrade-y of the year.
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We now go into the category where I have literally no vote.
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Yeah, that's fine.
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books. All right, so favorite book. We can go quickly through this. The
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the Upgradients votes were kind of all over the place. No clear. Other led
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the category. Other includes blank, by the way, I think. That's how that works.
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So I'm just gonna mention some books. We'll put a link in the show
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notes I wrote at the end of December, a piece on six colors about my favorite
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books and Dan Morin wrote for his favorite books of the year. All of these
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are listed in there so you can check them out. I will very quickly say my
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three favorite novels of the year were Uprooted by Naomi Novik, which is a
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fantasy novel. It's very good. The Fifth Season by N. K. Jemisin, which is a
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really great sort of told in three different perspectives story about this
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kind of apocalyptic world with these, they're kind of like mutants. They have the power
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to like stop or cause earthquakes and they're treated badly by the people who don't have
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powers and it's way more complicated than that, but it's so good. It's the first part
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of a trilogy. The third book is coming out in August. The second book is very good too.
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So that's the fifth season and, you know, well, I have a lot to choose from for my third
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favorite of the year. So let's just leave it at those two. There are three other books
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that I'd tie for third. And then on the nonfiction side, I will mention three books that I really
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liked in nonfiction this year. A book called "The Etymologicon," which is about weird words
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and where they came from. A book—thank you to Dan Morin for that recommendation—a book
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called "History of the World in Six Glasses," which is from an editor at The Economist,
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which is a kind of story that I really enjoy, which is find a frame in which to tell sort
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of the story of human civilization or scientific development or things like that, going back
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to like James Burke's Connection TV series, which I really loved, Connections. History
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of the World in Six Glasses, the idea is you can tell the history of human society and
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development through six different drinks, starting with beer and wine and spirits and
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tea and coffee and Coca-Cola and it's very good. And for baseball fans out there, Ahead
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of the Curve by Brian Kenny, which is a great, I think, clear description of what modern
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views of baseball and statistics and what they tell us that you could give that to a
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friend who likes baseball but doesn't understand about like fancy sabermetrics kind of stuff
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and I think you would find it engaging and a good explanation of it. So those are my
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choices. My favourite book of the year was The Fifth Season by N. K. Jemisin.
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So The Fifth Season by N. K. Jemisin wins the upgraded book of the year.
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Which is just basically my book of the year.
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Yep, that's how it works.
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It's fine. That's how it works.
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Best Apple-related gadget. So this includes Apple's products and products that were created
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just to work with Apple products. And we have in our list here the iPad Pro 9.7 inch which
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was released in March, the Logitech Create keyboard case for the iPad Pro 9.7 inch, the
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iPhone 7, the MacBook, known as the MacBook One or the MacBook Adorable, the Apple Watch
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Series 2, the MacBook Pro with Touch Bar and a late entry, the AirPods. I want to know
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what you think. What is your best Apple-related gadget of the year?
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First off, I want to dispute this category a little bit because it's all Apple products
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except for the Logitech Create, and I think maybe that's not fair for Logitech in the
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way that this was done when we have a non-Apple gadget category next. Maybe it should be in
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that category instead of this one? Maybe we need to change the parameters of
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this category. In years past, this category has had more non-Apple accessories in it.
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- Yeah, but that didn't happen this year.
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So that seems tough 'cause I really like that keyboard.
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My choice is the AirPods.
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They were a late entry.
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I think it's the best Apple product of the year.
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I think it's a great gadget.
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I think it's everything that is good
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about when Apple builds, designs products,
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envisions how they're gonna be used,
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uses technology that's not quite possible,
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takes a category that existed before
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but outdoes it with the details.
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And yeah, I've only had them for about two weeks now,
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but I think it was the best product
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that Apple released this year.
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- In a year where Apple products have been disappointing,
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the AirPods show that they still have the ability
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to make magic.
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- Like the stuff that we love them for,
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you know, like doing all those little things.
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- This is the stuff they call magic
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and everybody makes fun of them for saying our magic,
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but they do feel like magic.
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When you nail it, this is what it feels like.
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- And they did it, and I agree with you completely.
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However, you say about Logitech Create, it's my pick.
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Because, I mean, we're probably gonna give
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AirPods the upgradey, but I haven't,
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you know, I've had like nearly a year
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with the Logitech Create now, and I love this thing
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because I really love my 9.7 inch iPad Pro.
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It is probably my favorite thing that Apple released
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in the year because I really didn't have enough time
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with the AirPods in 2016, like a week, right?
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But I think that the 9.7 inch iPad Pro
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is a fantastic device.
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- The Logitech Create elevates it
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because it is a real keyboard.
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It's not like the thing that Apple makes.
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And it's not like this huge mechanical thing.
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Right, it is a case which yes, adds bulk and weight,
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but not too much.
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It's not crazy, right?
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Like it's not what the Logitech create does to the 12.9.
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It doesn't make it heavier than a regular laptop.
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But I have amazing real keys, you know, keys that feel like real
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keyboard keys with a media function row and like home button on the
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keyboard and backlighting with no battery, no Bluetooth.
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And it also has a pen integrated pencil holder.
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It's fantastic.
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Absolutely fantastic.
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So that's my vote.
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- The listeners, they voted for the iPad Pro 9.7 inch
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at 27%. - Very tight race
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over the iPhone 7.
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- With the iPhone 7 at 24%.
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- I have a proposal for you.
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This is shenanigans are happening now.
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I, if the Logitech Create was in the next category,
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I would vote for it.
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- I agree with what, yes,
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I understand where you're going with this.
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Because I feel like it doesn't belong in this category this year because these are all Apple products except for it and
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The other category is all other tech products. I don't think it's gonna win the next category
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So we could do it, but it still wouldn't be my vote in that category
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What is wrong with you I know I know we're going with this however, yeah, it does appear in a later category
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All right. Well, it appears in most life-changing hardware. I think it's the AirPods
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I think it's got to be the AirPods. As much as I agree with you about that Logitech Create keyboard,
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one of the things about being a user of the 12.9-inch iPad Pro is, as much as I love that product,
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its surface area makes it a bad match, and its weight makes it a bad match for keyboards,
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and it's been very hard to find a single keyboard, Federico and I talk about this a lot,
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a single keyboard that can solve all of the use cases for the big iPad Pro.
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And I feel like the Logitech Create for the 9.7 nails it.
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Like, that is the keyboard for that product.
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- So again, whilst this is my personal winner, I also think AirPods should win this.
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- All right.
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- Because AirPods are more general. They're for everyone. This isn't for everyone. This is like
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a small slice of a niche product.
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Well, yeah, but so is Audio Hijack. It is our words. We can do whatever we want.
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And I know where you're going with me. And we'll see. We'll talk about the next category.
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We'll see if we'll maybe shift it in and do something unprecedented in the upgrade-ies.
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But I do want the AirPods to win this category, right? Like, I want that to happen. It's just
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not what I put at the top, just because of the length of time I've had them. But I'm more than
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than happy for AirPods to win it because they're brilliant. So the upgrade for best Apple related
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gadget which will probably be renamed next year to best Apple gadget of the year is AirPods.
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Now we come to best non-Apple gadget so this is just technology at large and the nominees
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are Canary, the PlayStation VR, the Amazon Echo which is eligible for this list because
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it was not released outside of the US until 2016.
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The Kindle Oasis.
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The Ananova Sous Vide Cooker.
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The Amazon Echo Dot, which was a 2016 product.
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The Sonos Play One and the Google Pixel.
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The Upgradients voted for the Amazon Echo with 31% with the Google Pixel coming in at
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16% and the Playstation VR of 14%.
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Where does your vote go?
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Now you go first this time. I've been going first too much. You go first.
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PlayStation VR. The PlayStation VR is great hardware with some weirdness. I think version
01:12:05
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2 is going to be even better. But the reason I go for this is, again, I mention it again
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like I did with Job Simulator. One of the big trends this year, 2016, is virtual reality.
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And PlayStation VR brings a great VR experience with convenience at a price which is not unobtainable.
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because I mean yes you need a PlayStation which you know it takes the price of the PlayStation
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VR and doubles it right so you probably about a thousand dollars in for the whole thing
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but if you want to get your hands on an Oculus or a Vive there are about seven to eight hundred
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dollars for the hardware then you need a PC capable of powering it which will run you
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probably around fifteen hundred and then you have to have a PC in your house which you
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might not necessarily want. A PlayStation is a lot smaller, can fit in the living room
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and also unlocks PlayStation games. And the thing is, if you don't have a gaming PC, you
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probably don't want to play PC games. You're probably good with console games. That's kind
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of my feeling on this. If I wanted to play PC games, I would already have a PC capable
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playing them. I want to play console and now I have my PlayStation 4 which I play lots
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of regular games on and I also have a great VR experience for it as well and I think that
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PlayStation VR is the most comfortable, I've tried all the headsets, I think it's the most
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comfortable. I think you know if you're gonna say what is the best one, the Oculus is the
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best one especially with touch controllers but the PSVR is unlocked with virtual reality
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in homes where I think there's something like 50, 60 maybe million PlayStation 4s in people's
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homes already and the current PlayStation 4 will run the PSVR. So it's an investment
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which people will be willing to make in the holiday season for example. It's expensive
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but it's not unheard of because it's the cost of a console. It costs how much a games console
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costs. It doesn't cost four games consoles which is what you'd need for PCVR. So that's
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where I'm going to go.
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Myke, Myke, Myke, Myke. Well, this is, you heard my enthusiasm for this category. I've
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been lobbying to get the Logitech Create keyboard in this category because I would vote for
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You want to move it?
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Honestly. Well, it's not going to, if you're not going to go for it then I'm not sure it's
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worth it. There are some other fine products in this category. My experience with PlayStation
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VR, I've tried that in the Oculus. My experience is brief, like I said, I used it at Twit.
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I don't have a PlayStation 4, so for me, I have to buy the console and the VR stuff to
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So it's, you know.
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I tell you, if we weren't bringing the Logitech Create keyboard into this category, where
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would your vote go?
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I would probably, you know, I would consider the Ananova Sous Vide cooker because that
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is probably my favorite gadget of the year.
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It is so like an Apple product.
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The box is like an Apple product.
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It's this metal and black plastic and it's got Bluetooth and the new one has Wi-Fi as
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well and then you cook things with it.
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But I would probably agitate for the Echo and Echo Dot together because the Echo was
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new in the UK and the Echo Dot, which lets you attach it to any sort of speaker, was
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new this year, I believe.
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And those are both, I'm a fan of the Echo ecosystem and I think Amazon's done some very
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clever work there that has left Google and Apple and others catching up to them and I
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like those products a lot. So that would probably, because it's more techy than the sous vide
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cooker, I would probably be my choice would be to lump those together. I think lumped
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together those two products end up with like 42% of the upgradians votes too.
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So, there is no addition of the upgradies without bargaining.
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true no that's part of the process here most award shows the bargaining happens
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behind the scenes the eddie awards we had meetings there was bargaining
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happening there was you're trying to get a majority to come to one thing or
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another right this the proverbial smoke filled room right well this is it we we
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do it for you right on the show so here's the bargaining okay I really like
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my echo but I don't have as much affinity for my echo as I do my
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Logitech Create keyboard case. I like that more than the Echo because I still have ways
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to go with the Echo because I've not yet currently got it set up for any home automation stuff.
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I think if I had my home automation stuff set up, I would probably go with the Echo.
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Yeah, you will.
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Should we bring the Create case in?
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It's fine with me.
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Let's do it.
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I think it's a great product.
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So the Logitech Create keyboard case has its Kanye moment. It's burst into this category
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and has won in a category it was never even nominated in.
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Not even nominated, no.
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Congratulations to the Logitech Create Keyboard Case for the iPad Pro 9.7.
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You have just won Best None Apple Gadget, and Upgradients Around the World, Shrieking Horror,
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at what we have just done.
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But the Echo is in another category later on.
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So it can still come away with a win.
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Now we have a category here which is really interesting and I want to go into it.
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Which is the worst gadget or most disappointing technology.
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These are our nominees.
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The Galaxy Note 7, which you can imagine would be in here, but also the MacBook Pro with
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Touch Bar, the iPhone 7, the iPad Pro 9.7 and the Apple Watch Series 2.
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Let's talk about this.
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Why are all those products in this category?
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- Well, they came out this year and people,
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the Apple products, they came out this year
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and people complain about stuff.
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So I put those, I mean, you can make an argument
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about the MacBook Pro.
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People were clearly disappointed with that.
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Everybody's always disappointed with the iPhone.
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I don't even know why.
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I don't know why people would be disappointed
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with the iPad Pro 9.7.
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That's a pretty great product.
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But again, it was an Apple product
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that was released this year.
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And the Apple Watch series too,
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maybe they wanted something different,
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shape different features, cellular connections, things like that that it didn't offer. Or
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they just don't like the Apple Watch because everybody who doesn't like the Apple Watch
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feels they need to write a column saying, "Yep, I still don't like the Apple Watch."
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So I thought I would put those in there. Personally, I think that there is only one selection here
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because of what happened this year.
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- Yeah, there's only one winner. The Galaxy Note 7 is without a shadow of a doubt the
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worst gadget release this year because because and I actually watched a great
01:18:49
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MKBHD video today where he did his smartphone review of the year he said this was
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probably the best phone release this year yeah but it blew up yeah and this
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is this is why it's so this is why I like I consider it both the worst gadget
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and the most disappointing because it went from being the best phone in the
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year to being a phone you could be put in prison for owning if you happen to
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have it with you on an airplane. There has never been a a Pekin Valley like that before.
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What yeah what what a what a story and you know and and and it's got some classic elements
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too of like the reason it was so cutting edge in so many different ways is because apparently
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they pushed it faster and further than they than they should have right so it's not like
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it was oh you know act it's an act of nature caused it to fail what a bad luck for Samsung
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it's like the the stuff that they did to author this great success were in fact the seeds of its
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failure but there are a lot of Apple products in here and there's only one of these that I have
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used that I can see disappointment in and I want to talk about it just a little bit all right I've
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I've said it in a few places recently, but just while we're on this subject, I just want
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to touch on the iPhone 7.
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I really like my 7 Plus a lot.
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I like it as much as I like any S revision phone.
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This wasn't one of those.
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This is a full-on number change revision.
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Yeah, except it's really like a double S, it turns out, right?
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It's like a double S.
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Which is, I think, from a disappointing perspective, I can understand that.
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And the reason that I expected more is because Apple set the precedent.
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They set the precedent, right, of the TikTok model, you know, and they set the precedent
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of every full numbered phone gets a new design.
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I was expecting a new design and we didn't get that.
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And to be honest, we got some stuff, right, we got a better camera.
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If you're using a Plus, you got an even better camera, right?
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And we got, it's faster.
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else did we get? I don't know. There aren't really any other tent pole features. And what
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That doesn't count for me. What happened is we had things taken away, which has never
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happened before. The headphone jack is gone.
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Headphone jack, sure.
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And you know, people say, "Oh, but we got AirPods." But we could have had those anyway.
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We didn't need the headphone jack to go away to get AirPods.
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My home button, I really, do you know what, I will say now, I prefer the feel of the four
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touch home button to the other home buttons that I have in my life.
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As I've gotten used to it, I prefer the feeling.
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But do you know what I lost?
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I lost a button that was 100% reliable because this one isn't.
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Sometimes it just doesn't work.
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And this isn't, you know, I have two things with this.
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I have one where if you don't make a full contact with it, the capacitive ring doesn't
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The other is sometimes you press it and the phone just locks up and that didn't happen
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before and I don't know if this is an iOS 10 thing but I'm going to blame it on the
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home button.
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And also, you know, saying how great the camera is, it didn't ship with portrait mode.
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I think the iPhone 7 was disappointing this year.
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It is a really good S revision, it is not a really good 4 revision.
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So I think it was worth mentioning because I mean I don't personally and obviously it's
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my opinion so I think it's I don't know how you could argue with that.
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Like I don't really know what it gave us.
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Well it's Apple's biggest product and they took it from a two-year cycle to a three-year
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cycle and rather than just never holding an iPhone event in the fall leaving us all to
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wonder what was happening like they did with many Mac products this year, they had an event
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and announced a new phone and even called it the new number when in fact what they were
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really doing was the third year of an existing product cycle rather than doing a new phone
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design on, you know, every other year.
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It doesn't make sense to me why they called it the 7. They should have given it a different
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name. If they wanted to move to the 3 year cycle, which I understand, I think they should
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have also broken the naming. But I know why they didn't do that because they probably
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thought that it would harm sales, but I don't know.
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I just want to say, I really like it. I really like it as much as I love an S-phone. But
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the thing is about it, the thing that makes it weird for me is that no iPhone has taken
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things away from me before. But this one really liked doing that this year.
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And I will only...
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It got waterproofing. That's the one other thing it got. I will say that it got waterproofing.
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That's the other feature.
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I will cite the 20% of our voters who voted for the MacBook Pro with Touch Bar. I don't
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think we need to revisit it here, but that it was very interesting that everybody was
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really unhappy about Apple not talking about the Mac at all. And finally, Apple did a Mac
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focused event and released new Mac hardware. And the result was controversy and frustration.
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And I think that there we've covered it in depth. There are many routes to the, uh, the
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frustration that people have felt in certain parts of the Mac using community about what
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Apple has done and not done with the Mac before and after releasing this product. There are
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lots of reasons. It's a complicated situation, but I think you don't have to go very far
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to say that a lot of people were disappointed in the MacBook Pro with Touch Bar. We can
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argue about rightly or wrongly and who those people are and lots of other things, but you
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can't argue that it was to some people clearly a big disappointment. And we saw it in our
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our voting results. But as far as I'm concerned, the rags to riches to rags, whatever, the
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legendary story of the product with so much name recognition, people are saying it several
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times on every flight that goes anywhere in the world now, the Samsung Galaxy Note 7,
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both disappointing as you pointed out, and the worst gadget of 2016.
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There's never been anything like this before.
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No, let's hope there never is again.
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I hope so too, and I hope so for Samsung's sake, that they're able to pull back from
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this because Apple needs that competition, I think.
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Favourite tech story of the year.
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These are our rundown phenomena of our favourite tech story.
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Snapchat Spectacles, the Exploding Galaxy Note 7, Apple vs the FBI, Twitter's tumultuous
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2016, the Rise of VR, the Pokemon Go craze, and the elections/Wiki League/Russian Spy
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I don't even know how to group those things together in a phrase, but that's what we have.
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Listeners voted for Apple vs the FBI as their favorite tech story, and I'm assuming, in
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the way that I do, this is the thing that you found the most compelling throughout the
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I went first last time, so I'll go first again.
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Snapshot Spectacles is the thing that really
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wrapped me up this year.
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I think it's one of the most interesting introductions
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of a product that there's been in modern times,
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in recent times.
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The way that they dealt with their limited supply problems
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by putting them in vending machines
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that appear in random locations
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has been really interesting to watch unfold.
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And Snap have created a scarcity thing,
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which I haven't seen in this way
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since the Wii was introduced.
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You know, the idea of like, people just wanting to buy it
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because there isn't a lot of them.
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And everything that they've done around it,
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all of the graphic design,
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all of the videos that they've made,
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the way that they're dealing with social media,
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you know, the way that they announced
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the positions of the vending machines
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is random, like, you know, they show like a zoomed out map to show you kind of what
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city it's going to be in and then just tweet a picture of it in its location and then people
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have to go find it. Technology products don't do this, but this is a technology product.
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I think it's been really, really interesting to watch unfold and it's just been something
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that I've been kind of fascinated in. So that's kind of my vote just because I, this has been
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a topic that's interested in me enough, I wanted to bring it up here, but I think that
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I will probably end up siding with you and the Upgradians, because I expect you're going
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to go the Upgradians route, which would have, which is my second in all honesty.
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I, I, all right, I, I, I will, I will say without getting into it, maybe we can get
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into this some other time, but I, I, I, I think the Snapchat Spectacles is one of my
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least favorite stories. I think it represents in some ways all that is wrong and bad and
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stupid about the technology industry. I think it's a dumb stunt that we've seen the likes
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of before. I think the product's not that interesting, so good for them on getting PR
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out of a product that's not that interesting. I think the company is problematic in a bunch
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of ways, but you know, maybe I'm just a cranky old man, but I hated that story.
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So here's the thing, people on my side that hear that say that you're a cranky old man
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and people on your side that hear my story just think I'm a silly millennial.
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That's like the, and this is, this is why I think it's a good story because it's so
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Anyhow, Apple versus the FBI?
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What a story, right?
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Like as far as technology stories go, it's had it all, you know, and it's not over yet.
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Well, that's that's I think what makes it even more important is that this is this is maybe not the first shot
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But this is a very notable
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interaction between technology companies and
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governments about what information is private to people and what information can be accessed
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Because the government has decided it wants to read, you know read through your stuff essentially and in the olden days
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There were laws against unlawful search and seizure.
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And then on top of that, you had this idea
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that you couldn't be compelled to give information
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that was in your own mind, basically.
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And in a modern context, it's difficult to parse out
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where we are with those things now.
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When is access to our cloud data okay?
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When is, you know, is that an extension of ourselves?
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Is that an extension of our homes?
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It threatens the tech industry
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because so much tech is based on cloud stuff.
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And if cloud stuff is eventually considered
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to essentially be entirely public
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and viewable by governments
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and potentially bad actors as well,
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or governments can be bad actors too,
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but like bad independent actors, criminals and the like,
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then you've eroded the confidence in the machine
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that drives so much of technology.
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So that's in the mix here.
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Apple's commitment,
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Apple has a lot of money and a lot of prestige
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and unlike some of its competitors has a commitment
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to keeping its customer data private.
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That's interesting because they end up as a proxy,
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as a really good proxy for the entire concept
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of technology being used to ensure people's privacy
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and how that pushes against the desire of governments and other organizations and actors
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to want to get access to information, no matter, you know, basically break any lock. And if
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you create a lock that's impenetrable, what happens next? Do they make the locks illegal?
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Do they create lock picking equipment that they don't make the public aware of? There's
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There's so much here and, you know, I gotta say it's not—this is just the beginning
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of these issues. It will continue and it will continue to be ugly and it could potentially
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have severe harm for our society and severe harm for our technology.
01:31:16
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- Let me be clear. I consider this the most interesting tech story of the year. I just
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really wanted to mention the Snapchat thing.
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Well, you know what I didn't say there is, "And you, Myke, with your vending machine
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of sunglasses."
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We're representing both sides here, and that's what I was looking for.
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We have the fun stuff about technology, product releases, and then we have the how it affects
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all of our lives so deeply now, which I think both me and you—and we're starting from
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different times, right? But when both me and you became interested in technology,
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it didn't matter so much. Yeah. Right? Like even me, you know, 15 years ago or
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whatever was when I really started to get into this stuff, it didn't matter as
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much. It wasn't so intrinsic to our lives. And now, the Apple versus FBI thing is a
01:32:11
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is a clear example of how getting access to the technology that I own tells
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somebody everything about me. Things that I couldn't even tell you, right? Because of how,
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like, algorithms work. You know, the data on my phone can tell you more about me than I could
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possibly tell you. And that's super interesting. So, yeah, that's what I'm gonna say on that one.
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- No, I think that's exactly right.
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I was thinking the other day that, you know,
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there was a time where we would be on the internet
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and we would be like, yeah, you know,
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trolls on the internet, commenters on the internet,
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people say dumb stuff on the internet, whatever,
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it's just something you deal with.
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But once everybody has the internet,
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that stuff that you used to be like,
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ah, you know, it happens, people, what you're gonna do?
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Things I learned like on Usenet in the like late 80s
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and early 90s suddenly are enough to affect like the direction of countries because now
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it's magnified because it's everybody when before it was just a few people in the basement
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of a college campus somewhere and yeah that's what a world we live in.
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So we're now on to favorite tech screw-up of the year which is a great category name
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I know and these are our nominees. Apple tweets all of the iPhone 7 announcements early.
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Samsung Galaxy Note 7, just that's it.
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I mean, what do you want?
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Twitter releases experimental features early to iOS clients.
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Facebook fake news and Apple disbands the AppleScript airport teams and gets out of
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the display business.
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So let's talk about these.
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If you remember for the September event, you didn't see this because you were in the room.
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Apple had kind of clearly done a deal with Twitter, clearly done a deal with them because
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they set up this account which had these ads and then it had that thing which will remind
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you when the event was coming but none of the tweets were showing and then what some
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of the tweets that were clearly meant to be ads for the iPhone 7 just started being tweeted
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from the @Apple account as the event was beginning before anything was announced. So if you were
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watching at home you knew every single feature of the iPhone 7 before Apple showed it.
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Categorical disaster for both companies.
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Which if we see, I mean as you can see, didn't happen in October.
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I don't think that's ever going to happen again because Twitter totally ruined this.
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I assume that it was on Twitter's side.
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Somebody was scheduling this and doing it for them and just absolutely destroyed it.
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All their tools weren't good enough or whatever.
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Galaxy Note 7 is obvious.
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I mean and again like 59% of the upgrading vote.
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If you put this in any of these types of categories, it's going to walk with it.
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But going back to Twitter again, they've done this a few times this year where they think
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they class...
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This is why I think it's so terrible.
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Things come out to the Twitter app.
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People think that it's an abomination and shouldn't be done this way, like removing
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the names from @mentions so it just looks like a random tweet when it's actually to
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And then Twitter say, "Oh, it was an experimental feature we weren't supposed to release."
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So it's terrible on both sides.
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they did do that which is ridiculous or they're using such a terrible excuse to
01:35:30
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try and cover up a product decision that everybody hated which shows that they
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have fundamental misunderstanding of how their product should be working.
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Facebook fake news there are a lot of political stuff I don't want to get into
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but Facebook seems to have a fake news problem which they are struggling to get
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under control either from a policy perspective or from a technology
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perspective and then Apple got out of a lot of businesses this year or looks
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like they're going to. Right. This is my pointed way of putting this in the
01:36:00
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screw-up category. Yeah. Right? Apple getting rid of the AppleScript team and
01:36:05
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airport teams and saying they're not gonna make any more displays on their
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own. I think people could argue that those are our bad moves for Apple. I
01:36:12
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don't know if I would necessarily across the board but you know I think it's
01:36:15
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worth being a nominee here. Whether you think that's a bad move or a good move
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there isn't anything to say that good has come out of this. That could be the
01:36:26
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screw up, right? Like, in a year where we've been upset, there isn't anything to say like,
01:36:32
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"Oh, it was a good reason to get those people in other teams." You know, maybe next year
01:36:37
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we'll see the fruits of that, but this year we haven't. It's like, "Okay, you got out
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of all these businesses, but what have you given us in return?" You know, nothing. Galaxy
01:36:46
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Note 7, right?
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I think it has to be, although I was going to throw in a late, a late edition here, a
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late nominee. I was thinking about this and I thought you could argue that one
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that potentially the biggest tech screw-up of the year was the bad email
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practices and clicking on phishing links that led to all of the hacks of the
01:37:11
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Democratic National Committee that got leaked by WikiLeaks and that the
01:37:16
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screw-up was all of the bad security practices that led to it. I was thinking
01:37:24
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about that. I'm not sure I want to vote for that one either but that was a huge
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tech screw-up that had a major effect on the election. Yeah, I just talked about
01:37:33
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your tech screw-ups. It's like literally, you know, IT people everywhere just
01:37:37
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facepalming, right? When the whole story came out about how this
01:37:40
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all happened. It was like a lot of this was not super high-tech.
01:37:44
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No, just real super simple phishing stuff.
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Yeah, some social engineering, some really dumb things that people weren't supposed to
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click on. And this is a case where again, you have, I mean, there's so much of the intersection
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with tech and politics, what you realize is the people involved in politics don't understand
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tech. Also the people who understand tech don't understand politics a lot of the time.
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And you see it here where they're not speaking the same language and you've got people who
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or tech knowledgeable people who look at this and go,
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I can't believe that these people did this,
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but they didn't, you know, they did.
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They didn't have the support to do it.
01:38:19
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I think it's gotta be a Galaxy Note, right?
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I mean, it just across the board.
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What a year, what a story.
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- It's, yeah, it's just cleaning up this year,
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the Galaxy Note 7.
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This was where my 100% vote was going.
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Like I wanted to throw the iPhone in there
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and see where the votes went.
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But for me, the Galaxy Note was always getting this.
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I guess 60% of our of our upgrading in votes.
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Yeah, because look at it.
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The nominations for favorite tech podcast are The Talk Show, The Accidental Tech Podcast,
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Cortex, Connected, Control Vault Delete, Clockwise, Rocket, Six Colors Secret Subscriber Podcast,
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We didn't put upgrade in here because obviously upgrade would win.
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That's why upgrade's not in the list.
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Because if upgrade was in the list, it would always win.
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unfair. A little bit yeah a little bit tiny bit. So I'm gonna throw mine in now.
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Now. Okay. The accidental tech podcast has won the upgrade II two years in a row. I
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love ATP. I love all of the hosts of ATP. But I wanted to throw a spanner in the
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works this year. Okay. It received 48% of the upgrade in vote. Yep. It's probably
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probably gonna win again. But I wanted to take a moment to talk about what is probably
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my favourite tech podcast at the moment, which is the Six Colors Secret Subscriber podcast.
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I am being truly honest here, it is the only tech podcast that I subscribe to that when
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I see the push notification from overcast, I go "ooh" and bump it to the top of my
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you. Obviously I like listening to Jason Snell talk about technology because I wanted to
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do a show with you, right? And you and Dan Morin together obviously have a really great
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chemistry and the thing about the Secret Subscriber podcast, which by the way you have to be a
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Six Colors member to be a part of and in the show notes when you click the link for the
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Six Colors Secret Subscriber podcast it will take you to the
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Member page for Six Colors where if you sign up, which you should you will get a link for the RSS feed
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So you can listen to the to the Six Colors show
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It's the relaxed nature that I like a lot of technology podcasts
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I listen to including the ones that I am on they tend to be
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I'm trying to think of a way to say it but it's like
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It's just not as relaxed. Yeah, they're just no
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They know they're doing a show and they're formatted and they've got a schedule and they've got they've got segments and a theme
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Different because it's like it's not I mean, you know, you can tell me from but doesn't feel tightly edited
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It feels a little bit more like the shows that I used to listen to and just as the industry has matured
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The things that come out on top tend to be the stuff that is really thought out, really considered, really edited for good reason, right?
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Because it tends to be stuff of a higher quality. But now the secret subscriber podcast is like a breath of fresh air from what I'm used to.
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And so whilst I will say that ATP is probably the best technology focused podcast around.
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Other than upgrade and yes connected and cortex and clockwise, of course and rocket, you know
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But whatever I can't cast my votes for any show that I'm a part of and/or is on my network
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I feel like I can't do that because that's clear bias
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But I love the secret colors secrets subscriber podcast the secret colors as well. It's a long name. It's a very an extra color
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Yeah, I can't tell you what it is. It's secret. What's your vote?
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Well, you just made it impossible for me to vote for myself
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Which is too bad because I could totally just pick the six color secret subscriber podcast and it would be the winner
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Right good, and it would win
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I mean you can still do that, but I can't vote from I feel like I can't vote for myself
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But you just recused yourself. So that makes me look bad if I do that
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So I thought about this and I I'm gonna go with ATP
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there are only a couple of podcasts that I listen to every episode of and I listen to them when they come out and
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ATP is one of them. That is my go-to technology podcast even now. It is a great bit of chemistry between those guys
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I will admit that this fall has been a little bit rough because
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Marco is unhappy with things and it comes across and he and John's unhappy with things too
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and I and they have every right to be unhappy and what I don't want to say is
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That I only want shiny happy podcasts, right because it's like no I
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I am listening for all of that, but I also will admit that every now and then they get
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stuck on something, and I love it because usually you can hear Casey sighing in the
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background. It's hilarious. Every now and then they get stuck on something that they
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can't let go, that bugs them, and for me as a listener I'm like, "Okay, I get it. Okay,
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I get it." And you know what? Chapter markers, that marker wrote a tool with chapter markers
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in it, I can just move past those things. But I didn t used to do that, and this fall
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there have been occasions where I m like, Yeah, okay, I ve heard enough about this,
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and I will go ahead. But still, you know, it doesn t change the fact that that s the
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one I listen to every episode of, and it s always a high priority of all of them. And
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I pick and choose through all of the other tech podcasts here and there. As a non-commuter,
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I don t have the luxury of having a lot of podcast time, and ATP is the one I make time
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for. So yeah. So I agree right? I subscribe to mostly technology podcasts. ATP is the
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only show that I will listen to every... except for the Secret Subscriber podcast as well
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actually but ATP is the only show that I will listen to always even when it's like two and
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a half hours right? Like I'll push everything else aside. Absolutely. ATP is the show that
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I want to listen to the most. The reason I chose the Secret podcast this year is I didn't
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want every vote for the last three years for me and you to be for ATP.
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It's a little Soviet isn't it? Yeah and and it's gonna win again and so for the third year in a row
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ATP takes the upgradey for the best technology podcast. So I will just say to the hosts of that
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show it's about darn time that the upgradey appeared on your website. That's all I'm gonna say.
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I have great artwork files. You're a three-time winner now. It's time to recognize the award,
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is all I'm gonna say. Just a little follow-up in the next episode. I will give you the artwork.
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You can put it in as a chapter. It's got to appear somewhere now. You've won it three years in a row,
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that's what I'm gonna say. All right, well done. Favorite non-tech podcast. This is the category
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with the most nominees. It's as follows. The Flophouse. The Incomparable. Reconcilable
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differences, Hello Internet, Presidents are People 2, Hello from the Magic Tavern,
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the Pausecast, Audio Guide to Babylon 5 and Serial Season 2. Where is your vote?
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Well I put in a lot of ones that I wanted to show some love to especially
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the Pausecast which is a podcast where they draft things which you know you
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know me and drafting things. Hello from the Magic Tavern has really risen up
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this year. It's not quite at the top level. I'm sort of digging through the back catalog,
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but I really do love that podcast a whole lot. Definitely recommend it to people. But
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I have to say I'm boring. The Flop House, like ATP, those are the two podcasts that
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I listen to immediately upon receipt. And every episode all the way through, The Flop
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House for sure is still my favorite podcast of all time.
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Hello Internet took the popular vote at 40.6%.
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- Unsurprising.
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- Did Hello Internet win one year?
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- I think it didn't because in the first year
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I think you and I were at odds over the flop house.
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- And I think I gave it to you, didn't I?
01:48:53
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- And I think you gave it to me.
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- And then in year two, I then started listening.
01:48:57
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- I converted you.
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- Right, so Hello Internet takes the popular vote.
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- That's how it works.
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- With, aloha, Flop House coming in at second,
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reconcilable differences coming in at third it's gonna be a three time.
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Yeah you're going with a flop house? I'm going with a flop house. The flop house
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was my pick. No podcast makes me happier. I know it just makes me laugh and smile
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I love those guys. I listen to old episodes of the flop house every time I
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get on the airplane for some reason it's only it's the only podcast I can listen
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to one airplane. I don't know why but I I just again so there are the secret
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subscriber podcast and the flophouse are the only two shows that I will stop
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whatever show I'm listening to and listen to that one. Interesting. So they
01:49:45
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will cut in over anything. The flophouse is just a delight and I would say to our
01:49:51
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listeners if you haven't yet tried it try it just try it just my advice to you
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is go through and find some movies that you've seen and listen to those ones
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that's how I started interesting it worked I mean because there are people
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that listen to specific episodes because they're going to the head but they're
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funniest if you already know the flop house I think no that's how I started I
01:50:18
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I started with like Cowboys and Aliens and Limitless.
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They are the two that I started with as well actually.
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Cowboys and Aliens and Limitless.
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Go through, find some movies, I got a big catalog, find some that you've seen.
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Because then you already come to the show knowing something, which is the movie.
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And I think that helps a lot.
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Favorite podcast newcomer.
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Ah, that's a good one.
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This is a new show in 2016 and we have Dubai Friday.
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Mixed Feelings, Emoji Rap, Ungeniust, Presentable, Six Colors Secret Subscriber Podcast, Buffering
01:50:55
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the Vampire Slayer, and Jonah Carey, the Jonah Carey Podcast.
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So Dubai Friday is a great show with Merlin Mann, Max Temkin, and Alex Cox, which kind
01:51:06
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of grew out of their show, which was not about Top Chef, but was supposed to be about Top
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And Dubai Friday is, they call it a weekly challenge podcast.
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They have a thing they have to do every week, and then they talk about the way that they
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deal with that.
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Mixed Feelings is a new show to relay FM that I really love and we're really proud of, and
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it's kind of our biggest topic diversion that we've been on.
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It is a show mostly about news and politics, and it is hosted by two new podcast hosts
01:51:33
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as well, which we're really happy about that we got to bring a couple of maybe unheard
01:51:37
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voices in, and they are Quinn Rose and Gillian Parker.
01:51:40
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And they are a great team.
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And the show is really entertaining.
01:51:44
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And it is the way that I learn about the outside world.
01:51:48
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Emoji wrap, friend of the show, Jeremy Burge started a podcast about emoji.
01:51:53
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And it is surprisingly good, right?
01:51:57
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Because a podcast about emoji, can that be good?
01:52:02
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But yes, Jeremy is very talented.
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And he makes it good.
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"Ungeniused", which is a show that I am on, which got the popular vote with 32%.
01:52:12
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Now I will say "Upgradients", thank you for that.
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I honestly didn't expect that.
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And that means a lot to me and I'm sure it will mean a lot to Steven because that is
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a big chunk of the vote.
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And "Ungeniused" is what I call a podcast snack.
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The episodes are typically never longer than 15 minutes.
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And the one that we put out for Festivus, which was a lot of fun.
01:52:34
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you should go and listen to that, Jason makes a cameo.
01:52:38
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It is a show that me and Steven are trying to push outside
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of our regular boundaries with,
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which is why we do fun things with it.
01:52:45
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- It's a good show.
01:52:46
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- Presentable is Jeff Veen's show.
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I sometimes can't get my head around the fact
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that Jeff Veen is a host on Relay FM.
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Kind of makes my mind melt a little bit.
01:52:56
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It's a great show about design.
01:52:57
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We've been over the Secret subscriber podcast.
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I don't know the next two.
01:53:02
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- Buffering the Vampire Slayer is a new podcast
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where two women, one who is really deep down into it
01:53:09
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and one of whom is sort of coming at it fairly fresh,
01:53:11
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rewatch "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" from the beginning.
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And it is my favorite.
01:53:16
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- It may be one of the best podcast titles
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I've seen in a long time.
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- It's a great title, they got great art.
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It's "Buffy the Vampire Slayer"
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is my favorite TV show of all time.
01:53:26
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And, and one of the two hosts is a music artist
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and she composes a song about the contents
01:53:37
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of every episode at the end.
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And in fact, if you search on iTunes or Apple Music,
01:53:43
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you can find they finished the first season
01:53:46
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and released an album of all the songs
01:53:48
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from the first season,
01:53:49
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but they're also at the end of the podcast episodes.
01:53:51
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- I kind of wish now that I'd watched "Buffy"
01:53:54
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just so I can listen to this show.
01:53:56
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- Well, if you ever wanna give it a try,
01:53:59
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the beauty of it is you can watch
01:54:01
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and listen to a podcast about the episode you just saw.
01:54:04
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- It's a big commitment though, man.
01:54:05
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- It's true.
01:54:07
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- What's Jonah Carey?
01:54:09
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- Jonah Carey is a sports writer.
01:54:10
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He used to be a business writer.
01:54:12
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He actually worked with my friend, Philip Michaels.
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And I think maybe with Lisa Schmeiser too
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at Investors Business Daily.
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But he's a baseball writer.
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He's from Montreal.
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He wrote a great book about the Montreal Expos
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and a really good book about the Tampa Bay Rays.
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And it's sort of like almost a sequel to Moneyball
01:54:28
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in some ways.
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And he has a podcast now on the Bill Simmons Podcast Network.
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So that's his new home.
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And it's good.
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He interviews a lot of people, a lot of sports people.
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There's some entertainment stuff in there too.
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And Joan is just a really smart, good guy.
01:54:44
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And I like everything he does.
01:54:45
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And that's a good podcast for like a sampling
01:54:48
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of baseball stuff, which I like and some other stuff too.
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And he did a great podcast with one of the announced
01:54:55
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for the Giants where they basically,
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after a game was over,
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They just sat down in the booth for like an hour
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and talked about sports stuff.
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And it was great because Jonah knows people
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and has great access and is a smart guy.
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So I wanted to nominate that.
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That's a new one that I really have loved this year.
01:55:10
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- And what's your vote?
01:55:11
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- Favorite podcast, I gotta say my vote
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goes to buffering the vampire Slayer.
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I really love that.
01:55:18
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That is a fun entertainment.
01:55:20
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That's a good TV watch podcast.
01:55:22
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And there are ways to do that well
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and ways to do that badly.
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And they do it well.
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Then we're back in this realm. I'm going with Dubai Friday. I love Dubai Friday. I love
01:55:36
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the premise and I love that most of the show tends to not be about the premise.
01:55:41
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Because I was a Top Scallops listener. I'd never seen an episode of Top Chef.
01:55:44
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Yeah. And I think it's great that they've got this premise now because I didn't listen
01:55:48
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to Top Scallops because even though I wanted like a podcast with Marlon Mann and Max Temkin,
01:55:53
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sounds great, but it was about Top Chef and I aggressively do not care about Top Chef.
01:55:59
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So I just blew past it, even when people said, "Oh, it's not really about that." It's like,
01:56:03
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"Yeah, whatever." And I never got to it. So when they changed it to do by Friday, basically,
01:56:08
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that's a great idea. And Alex Cox is great. I had...
01:56:11
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- She's fantastic.
01:56:12
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- I met her briefly at XOXO, but I got to spend a little more time with her at UHL,
01:56:18
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And then we had her on Clockwise and she is fantastic.
01:56:21
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And so that is an extra little bonus.
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And I like the idea of you have to do something, you have to perform a task.
01:56:28
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It's a great thing.
01:56:29
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It's a great name.
01:56:30
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Great premise.
01:56:31
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So I don't know where we go with this.
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Well, let's give it to Dubai Friday.
01:56:35
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That's a great one.
01:56:37
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I was kind of hoping you'd say we'd go with the audience vote so I would win an upgrade.
01:56:40
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But nevertheless, Dubai Friday is where we will go.
01:56:44
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So at least I get my pick as the winner.
01:56:45
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So Dubai Friday is our favorite podcast newcomer.
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I'm really happy about this because it's a show that if you haven't listened to you should
01:56:54
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and start from the start because there aren't that many episodes.
01:56:57
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It's really, really brilliant.
01:56:59
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And I love it a lot because I have great respect for the three people that host that show.
01:57:04
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And as a trio, they work really, really well together.
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So you should go and check it out.
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I'm not bitter at all.
01:57:11
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Life-changing hardware is our final category for the upgrades of this year and the nominees
01:57:18
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are as follows.
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The Canary home security system, the Logitech create keyboard case for the iPad Pro, the
01:57:25
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PlayStation VR, the Amazon Echo and Echo Dot and the soundbot Bluetooth Shower Speaker.
01:57:36
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The soundbot Bluetooth Shower Speaker, Jason knew was so obscure that when he put it in
01:57:41
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our original nominations document, he included a link to Amazon so I could go and see.
01:57:46
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Yes. Uh-huh.
01:57:47
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I want to know about this because I want a Bluetooth shower speaker, so I'm hoping you
01:57:50
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can tell me this thing's so amazing, I'll just go buy it.
01:57:52
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Well, we mentioned him several times, I'm going to mention him again, and we've said
01:57:55
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on past shows that, you know, you talk to Marco and you buy things. This is a Marco
01:58:00
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Arment recommendation.
01:58:01
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Oh, if it's a Marco recommendation and you're recommending it, then I'm buying it right
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this dumb, cheap Bluetooth speaker that's waterproof
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or water resistant, it's got a suction cup on it,
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you charge it via this dumb, you know,
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it's like a mini jack thing,
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but then it's got a little gasket over it.
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And it, but the battery lasts quite a while.
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And the best part about it is, you know,
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when you take a shower, you just stick it to the inside
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of the, you know, the glass or on tile
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or wherever in the shower.
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And instead of, I used to listen to podcasts in the shower
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and I had a speaker, actually a play one on the outside.
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And I would crank it up so that I could hear the voices
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clearly on the inside.
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And my house isn't that big, the walls are kind of thin.
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You basically could hear the podcast in the entire house
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while I was taking a shower.
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And now I have this little speaker
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and the way it works is actually it fires downward.
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So you stick it on the glass or the tile or whatever,
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and it plays and it bounces it off that surface
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'cause it bounces it down and then it comes back out.
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And it's got little waterproof buttons on the front
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so you can make it louder, you can skip, you can pause,
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you can do all of those things and it's great.
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It really is, it is a life-changing bit of hardware
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because now I can listen to my podcast
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at a more reasonable volume and they're clearer
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because the speaker is right by my ear
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instead of through a pane of glass
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in an echoing through, sitting above the toilet,
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echoing through the bathroom.
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So it's, I know it's silly,
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but I think it counts as life-changing hardware.
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- So my vote in this is the Canary home security system,
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because it's the piece of technology
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that's made the biggest impact to my life this year,
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because it gives me peace of mind
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about the state of my home.
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And it really does.
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You know, I've kind of, I don't know why,
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but I've just gotten into a little bit of a phase
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where whenever I was leaving the house,
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I was concerned about the house.
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Maybe this is part of adulthood, I don't know.
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Just as I started to own more things in the world,
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I started to get more thoughts about those things,
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something happening to them.
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And the Canary will not only alert me
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when it finds something weird going on,
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I can also just check in on the house whenever I want
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for live video feed.
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Honestly, it's basically a flawless technology product
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for what I needed to do.
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I've never had a problem with it, not once.
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I've just moved home and it was fine
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and it just understood everything.
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All I needed to do was just change the address
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so the Canary knew where it was
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and it was like nothing had ever happened.
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It's just fantastic.
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- I like a lot of things about it.
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I used a drop cam for a long time
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and the advantage of the Canary is I think actually
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that it has this sort of cylinder,
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you can plop it somewhere.
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It's field of view isn't as good
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as some of the other products are, but it's not bad.
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It's got some other sensors in it.
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I wish it was more integrated
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with other like third-party smart home stuff.
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And they seem to be opening that up now,
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but for a while it was kind of only kind of on its own.
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But it's a good product.
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I use that now.
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That's my, instead of the drop cam,
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that's the one that I use.
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Like when we go on vacation, I turn it on.
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I leave it plugged in, but in privacy mode.
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And then when we go on vacation, I flip the switch
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and I've got their video of events
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when there's movement in the house and stuff like that.
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- Big, big fan of it.
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So the upgradians went with the Echo at 45% of the vote.
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- I know, right?
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- And I'm happy to go that way.
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I think that that's a great choice.
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We talked about it earlier
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when we were talking about the Amazon Echo and the Echo Dot,
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which adds some more flexibility
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and the good job that Amazon has done with that ecosystem.
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I, you know, the things I wish it did that it doesn't do yet, but Amazon has been rolling
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on new features all the time, which is impressed, which impresses me. I wish it was easier to
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make a simple web service for the Amazon Echo at basic. Basically, if there's something
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that you a web, a data source somewhere that you want to point at the Echo so that you
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can ask it a question, it'll read the data. You kind of can't do that. You have to build
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a whole web app using Amazon's app platform and all of that. And that needs to change.
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They need to provide some sort of easier system than that.
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But it's early days yet,
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and I'm sure that they'll get there.
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- Yeah, I like my Echo for the things that I use it for,
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but I know that I've not unlocked its full potential yet,
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and it's something that I'm planning on doing,
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so I know it's only gonna make a bigger impact on my life
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as things go forward.
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Like, IFTTT just launched in the UK for Echo.
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- So I've already done something now
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where I can give an audible cue to arm my Canary.
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- Oh yeah, I have that for my, you know,
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the lights outside the house,
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and for the lights in the garage,
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and I've got that for my dehumidifier, like Merlin,
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I now have a Alexa controlled dehumidifier.
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- What I also really like about the IFTTT stuff
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is you don't have to say,
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like it doesn't have to be on the Canary,
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you can give it a name.
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So like at the end it lets the name technology,
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so we call our Canary Buster,
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because you can bust any crimes.
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So I just say like, I say, "Hey Cylinder,
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"Arm trigger."
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So you have to say, "Trigger Arm Buster."
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And it would do it.
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- It's awesome. - Yeah, I love it.
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I really like it.
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So that is the end of the upgrade-ies for this year.
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It has been a blockbuster year.
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The third annual upgrade-ies are over.
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I'm hoping this year somebody will display the artwork.
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We did get it last year.
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I think Ferrite. - We did.
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Ferrite put the upgradeees artwork on their site.
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If you are the winner of an upgradeee,
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we have artwork for you.
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And we've got many treatments of the artwork
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and it's, you know.
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- Yeah, it's available.
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Call us, contact us. - It's there, it's there.
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It's available, call us and we'll help you out.
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- But I have gotta say that allowing the upgradeees in
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as the voting, I think it's been a big success, actually.
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I agree. I think they did a good job. I will overlook the Rogue One thing because
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we stuck something in there by changing a category. I feel like everyone's at level
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now. We all did something wrong today and we can all think about it again for next time.
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We can think about the things we might want to change. Thank you so much for listening
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to this episode of Upgrade, the third annual Upgradey Awards. If you want to find all of
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the links that we've spoken about.
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All of the, every single thing today has been put in the show notes for you.
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Every nominee.
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So you can go and check them all out for yourself and you can go and find that
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at relay.fm/upgrade/122.
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That is where you will find the links for the upgrades.
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Oh, and by the way, happy new year to you.
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Happy new year, everyone.
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We'll be back next time.
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Until then, say goodbye, Jason Snell.
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Goodbye, Jason Snell.
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It felt special enough, right? The upgrade is?
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It did, yeah it did.
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I did hope this was going to be the one.
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