165: The iPhone X Review
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From Relay FM, this is Upgrade Episode 165, the iPhone X Review.
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Today's show is brought to you by Blue Apron, Bombfell, and Encapsula.
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My name is Myke Hurley.
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I am joined by Mr. Jason Snell.
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Hello, Jason Snell.
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Hello, Myke Hurley. How are you?
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I'm very well, but literally nobody cares about that today because we have a huge show.
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but I'm going to start with an iPhone 10 related #snowtalk question which was sent in a long
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time ago but I've waited for today. This comes from Frank. Frank wants to know which an emoji
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Jason is your favourite?
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I gotta go with the monkey. I think you've got to. Because the monkey is my favourite.
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I mean, first off, monkeys in general are kind of my favourite and the monkey emoji
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is one that I really like and I enjoy that monkey. There are a lot of good emojis. I
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say this, I think some of the animoji are more expressive than others, like I really
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like the robot, but it's a robot, what can they do with it? Whereas like the fox is super
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The fox is so cute.
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Right, and I mentioned this in the review, but one of the things that I think the most
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impressive thing about animoji is not the face tracking, I think it is the character
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animations that happen, like there is a lot of personality that was put into those animations,
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They do some amazing things, interpreting certain facial features as other features
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mapped to like, like the big ears on the top of the fox.
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And they do things when you like change your forehead and it's, it's crazy.
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So so yeah, I say I like the monkey because it's a monkey, but the, I think over time
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we may come to appreciate certain animoji as having a kind of amazing animation in them
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that makes, gives them even more personality.
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But yeah, it's totally the monkey.
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Which monkey did I use in my video?
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Or which animoji did I use in my video?
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The monkey, of course.
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It goes without saying, really.
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I have yet to see anybody, well this is mostly you so you need to rectify this at some point,
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to send me the unicorn, because I think the unicorn is going to be what I end up going
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But I haven't seen a unicorn yet.
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Nobody sent me a unicorn.
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So we are of course, thank you Frank by the way for sending in that #SNELTalk question.
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If you want to open the show of a question to Jason,
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just send a tweet with the hashtag SnailTalkIn
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and it will open a future episode of the show.
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Of course, we are talking completely
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about the iPhone 10 today,
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because Jason has a review that he has published
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and we're gonna be going through
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and kind of filling in some of the gaps
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and getting some more color,
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maybe a seventh color to round out everything
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about the iPhone 10.
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But I guess we should--
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- It's all infrared.
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It's all infrared.
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The color is infrared.
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- It's a hidden wave station.
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But we should start at the beginning and we should start at the point when you picked
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up your iPhone.
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So I assume you went back to the spaceship.
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I went to Infinite Loop.
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I just went to the briefing center in Infinite Loop.
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I think they're prepping the visitor center to open.
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So maybe they can't just camp out in the visitor center again.
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And my impression is that there are not a lot of people in at the spaceship yet.
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I will say though, a lot of people, there's a conspiracy theory that the reason we didn't
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record the show on Monday was because of this.
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And it's not true, I went to a wedding in Rhode Island on Sunday. Our friend and colleague
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Serenity Caldwell got married.
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Congratulations, Serenity.
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Yeah, absolutely. And so I came back very early Monday morning, that was always the
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plan, I made my reservations a whole long time ago, and I was going to be in the air
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when we did this, and I just said, "Let's just do it Tuesday." And you're like, "All
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right, let's do it Tuesday." Not a problem. And then I got a call from Apple saying, "Would
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you like to come down Monday afternoon?" So I literally just got to the airport and drove
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south instead of north and went to Apple.
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But as we're coming in to San Francisco Airport,
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I opened the shade on the window
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and between the fog and the clouds and stuff,
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I was looking to try to see where we were in the Bay Area,
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like playing that game of like, can you spot where you are?
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And it was, you know, a lot of buildings and some freeways.
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I'm like, what am I looking at?
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Is this the East Bay?
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We usually come down over the East Bay
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and then across the Bay and then land in San Francisco.
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And I was like, I'm not quite sure where this is.
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And then you know what I saw, Myke?
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I saw a giant ring building.
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And I thought, "Oh, I know where we are."
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(both laughing)
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- And you were instantly reminded
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that you had to get to work.
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- Yeah, so I flew above the spaceship,
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but then I drove to Infinite Loop and got a briefing.
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And then I came home and then I put together a review
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and went to bed at 3 a.m.
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'cause that was when the embargo was.
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- So you have had your iPhone for 24 hours at this point,
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right? - Oh, it's less than that.
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It's, it's, it's, I got it at like one 30 or two in the afternoon and it's,
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as we record this, it's not yet 10 in the morning.
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So, um, so yeah, it's more like 20, 18 to 20 hours ago.
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I got the, I took, took the iPhone 10 into my heart and also put it in my pocket.
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This is a new direction from Apple.
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It seems this time that I think they're focusing on getting these smaller
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reviews out first and then maybe pushing out for content later.
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We'll see if this is something that sticks, but they definitely
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made a change this time.
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- It's unusual, the part about this that's,
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they always choose interesting outlets from time to time,
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that just happens that they choose,
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they try to push it outside the usual.
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They've done that for a while now.
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I'd say what the big difference was this time is,
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I can't remember the last time they had a universal embargo
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with different hardware procurement times.
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I mean, that's the thing is I can't remember the last time
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there was an embargo that everybody followed,
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but some people had it for a day,
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some people had it for a week.
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That's a little unusual.
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Usually the people get it well in advance,
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their embargo drops,
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and then everybody else just sort of gets handed a unit
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and says, "Write about it whenever."
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And they didn't do that this time,
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which is a little bit different,
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but they're trying different stuff.
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So I was very happy to have the opportunity
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to be under embargo.
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It's been a while since I did an embargoed iPhone review.
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I think it's been since three years ago
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when the 6 came out, I had an embargoed review,
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which was right on the cusp of me leaving Mac world
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and doing six colors.
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I actually wrote on Six Colors. That was the impetus for launching Six Colors when I did,
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instead of giving myself a few weeks off from being an internet personality, was that I
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had that review and we talked about it on upgraded episode one.
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Oh yeah, episode one was an embargoed iPhone review. I totally forgot about that.
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But I also wrote about it for Macworld because it was originally supposed to be for Macworld,
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so we kind of made a deal where I wrote some stuff for them and some stuff for Six Colors
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and we talked about it on upgrade. So it's been three years since I had one of these,
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So I wanted to make the most of it even though I didn't I had a limited amount of time.
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For what you're able to say was there anything interesting that came out of the briefing?
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Was there any kind of mention of the pre-order's demand?
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Was there anything specific that Apple wanted to go over with you or was it pretty standard
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It's a product briefing so they're basically focusing on the product.
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It's a lot of stuff you know I was I was actually there with somebody from broadcast journalism
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and I it's always a reminder that one of the reasons they go over all the features that
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mentioned at the keynote is because people who don't do this as their primary
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job but it's just one of many many things they cover they need the
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refresher so there's a lot of coverage of things that we already know and then
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one of the nice things about the product briefings is that they have details and
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they know that we want little tidbits so I got some tidbits about like details
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about how about the inference sensor and how the camera differs from the eight
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and how what was it some of the gestures like I didn't know that that reach
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ability still exists, but it does, and I actually turned that on for my iPhone 10,
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and that was something that the person in the briefing room told me. So, yeah, that's
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the nice thing about the briefing. Apple's one of these companies, it's not like our
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friend Andrzej Tomić talks about how in Slovenia he'll review phones and he literally gets
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a paper sack full of phones, and they said, "Go review these." And with Apple, it's very
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much like Apple doesn't want to just give you the product, they don't want to just FedEx
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it to your house, they want you to come to them and sit in a room and have them tell
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their story to you. And you can then do whatever you want, but they want the opportunity to
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set the story. They always want to do that. That was, I remember at one point at Macworld,
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we had like a handshake agreement with Apple that was basically like, we're going to give
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them the opportunity to give us a product briefing because there were a couple of products
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where they didn't brief us and, or they wanted to brief us late. And, you know, we just ran
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out and bought the product and wrote a review really fast and that really frustrated them.
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And we're like, guys, we got to review the product. And so we sort of made a deal where
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we were going to give them the opportunity to give us a briefing and sort of in exchange,
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they were going to get us the products sooner. And that was the thing we did. But they have,
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that's a cultural thing with Apple PR to this day, which is they want to, they want to give
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you that. They want to set the stage. They want to, they want to make sure you hear their
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side of it before you go off and do their review. And so that's, that's a big part of
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the product briefing process.
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We should probably just start talking about the phone, right?
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I think so. I think we've done our pre-phone theatrics are now done.
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So I have a bunch of different sections that I want to talk to you about. And I guess the
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first one is kind of the physical size of the phone. Because this is a new physical
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size as it sits kind of in scale between the 8 and the 8 Plus. So I kind of first off wanted
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to know how it feels in the hand. What is the width like? What is the height like? How
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How does it feel to hold and use this phone as compared to the 8 and the 8 Plus which
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you just reviewed?
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It's… it is a slightly wider iPhone 8, basically.
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It is, if you were to hold it, just like a blind test, if you just sat in a chair with
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your eyes closed and somebody put a phone in your hand, you would say this is… and
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you didn't know the existence of the iPhone X, you would say it's an iPhone 7 or 8,
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right, you would say, or six, it is, because it's only, what is it, like a couple of millimeters?
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I had somebody say, "Hey, thanks for the metric," but it's like fractions of inches are so ridiculous
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that I find millimeters actually, even as an awful American, I prefer the millimeters
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to say it's three and a half millimeters wider, which is nothing, right? It's 0.14 inch, which
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is totally meaningless to me, which is why I say it in millimeters. So it's basically
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as wide as the iPhone, you know, small size iPhone. It's taller, but it's not wider.
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So, and for me, my challenge with the iPhone Plus models was always like, it was, I would
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have to expand my hand so much to get around the phone. I never felt like I had a really
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great grip on it. And then at that point, my thumb, because my hand was, you know, trying
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desperately to hold onto it, my thumb had very little movement. So, one-handed use of
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the phone was really limited, which was always my frustration. That's not an issue. The width
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is not an issue with the X. If you pay attention, you'll notice it's a little bit wider, but
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it's very little bit. Just to put it in perspective, the Plus is more than 7mm wider than the X.
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So it's 3.5 wider than the 8, but 7 narrower than the 8 Plus. So it's definitely on the
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side of the smaller phone.
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Yeah, definitely.
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It's definitely urgent towards that.
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But, so what about the height though?
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Like how easy is it for you to go up and activate notification center?
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Is this something that you are finding difficult?
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Is it more or less difficult than the Plus models?
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How is that feeling for you in a usability standpoint?
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Well it's less difficult than the Plus models, but it is more difficult.
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And this is one of the things that I struggled with yesterday is I realized that I am, I
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do a lot of my iPhone stuff with one hand where I am sort of flicking around on the
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screen with my thumb and that's one of the reasons why I like the smaller phone because
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I can reach most places. I can barely reach the top of the phone with my thumb on the
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7 and the 8. On the 10, I can't. It's like a whole row of the home screen that I cannot
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reach. In fact, to the point where I've already decided I'm probably going to need to re-layout
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my home screen to push, to put, first off, to leave the,
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to fill the empty row at the bottom
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and put the most important apps toward the bottom
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because if I want quick access to the phone app,
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which is in the top row, forget it.
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Like I will need to either readjust my grip
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or I will need to call, send for the other hand
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to stop whatever it's doing and get in a car
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and drive over to where the other hand is
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and tap something on the phone,
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which again, it's not a problem.
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- Welcome to my three years ago, Jason.
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- Yeah, right?
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- This is what everybody did when they got plus models,
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right, you rearrange your home screen a little bit
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to fit that a bit better.
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- 'Cause it's not just that the 10 is taller, right?
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The 10 is a little bit taller, but the 10 screen,
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if you imagine the 10's a little bit taller than the eight,
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but the screen goes all the way to the top.
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So all that area that you've got the bezel
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in the eight or the seven or the six,
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That's screen too, so it's that much more tall.
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And so reaching all the way up there is an issue,
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which is why I mentioned reachability earlier.
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You can turn on an accessibility,
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reachability, which now that there's no home button,
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it is one of a litany of things
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that they've had to remap to a new gesture.
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In this case, they've got this sort of gestural area
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down at the bottom of the screen
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where there's this white bar at the very bottom
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that is your indicator to flip up to go to the home screen
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or to unlock the phone if it's locked.
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You can also, one of the gestures there,
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if you turn it on, is you kind of like flip down in that area and reachability triggers
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and it's like you're saying, "Come on down. Come on down, rest of the screen, I need you."
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But it's also entirely possible that with a little bit of retraining of muscle memory,
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I will start doing more of a, you know, hand shimmy kind of thing or I'll hold it a little
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bit higher and stop using my pinky as like the maintainer of the kickstand that maintains
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its place in my hand. There's, you know, you know, I may change my method of holding the
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phone in order to optimize for this size. I don't know. But that was the first thing
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that leapt out at me is one handing an iPhone at the top of the interface is not happening,
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at least not yet. So reachability, using the second hand, moving things down on the screen,
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all of that stuff is in play.
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I would say I expect that you will end up finding a way to do it one-handed because
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I remember going through all this stuff and I can activate all this stuff one-handed.
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You just kind of adjust and contort your grip into different ways, right, which end up being,
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oh, you hold your phone slightly differently because you want to reach more of the screen.
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And that's always the challenge when you've got a product, not even just for a day, but
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even if you've got a product for a week, is that's not living with it. Like, living with
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it, over time you will adapt, like your muscle memory will adapt to the new thing. And a
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new thing is always going to be frustrating at first. I got a new, this is a very brief
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tangent, I got a new mechanical keyboard to try the other week, because I like mechanical
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keyboards and this one's got, you know, my other keyboard is like missing lots of keys,
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which I've mapped around, but it is a little bit weird. So I got one that's got more keys
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in it. And I used it for like two or three days and I wanted to throw it across the room
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because like it was in the wrong place and I wasn't sitting in the right place and it
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made my hands uncomfortable and it made moving the trackpad uncomfortable, all of these things.
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And I was like, you know what, it's changed, you got to deal with it. And I like, I stuck
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with it and now it's fine. Like I got through that process and I probably, it didn't change,
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right? It's still a hunk of plastic. I changed where I positioned my hands and where I positioned
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my chair and I adapted until I found, even unconsciously, right, found a place that was
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comfortable. And with a phone, I mean, what is more, um, where do ergonomics matter more
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than something like holding a phone? Like your finger placement and, and the angle of
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your wrist, like all of that is something that you may not think about it, but you have
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a preferred style of doing it. And then you get a new phone that kind of changes it and
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you got to adapt.
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What are your thoughts on the colors?
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So I'm a, as you know, I am a big proponent
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of the Darth Vader phone.
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Like I loved the original black iPhone five
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'cause it was just like super black.
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And then they made it lighter space gray later
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but the first one was like super black.
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I liked that I had the jet black seven, loved it.
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So my order that I placed,
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which since I was on the East coast,
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I got to experience the 3 a.m. Apple product order.
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That was fun.
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- That was the 3 a.m.s for you at the moment.
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- Oh yeah, I've gotten up at 3 a.m.
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Yeah, I've been awake at 3 a.m. too many times lately.
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That, I got the black one.
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I got the space gray one, which is pretty much black.
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And that one, so the stainless steel ring
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around the iPhone 10, which Apple will tell you
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is a special atomic process to make the space gray
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match the glass back, but it looks great.
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Like with the jet black, it basically makes the whole thing
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like just a black phone, unless the screen is on,
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it's just like all black phone with a little Apple logo.
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And they'll also tell you that the stainless steel
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is a surgical grade in case you need to perform surgery
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with the ring around your iPhone, you could do that.
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And that it's a proprietary Apple metal.
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Like the particular mix to make this particular
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stainless steel is something that Apple
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has formulated themselves.
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Okay, fair enough.
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What I didn't expect is that I really like the silver one.
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So the black one is how much blacker could it be?
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None more black, it's a black phone, it's great.
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Darth Vader phone, I'm all for it.
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The silver phone though, way,
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I like way more than I like the silver phones lately.
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And there's two reasons.
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One is the bezel is black.
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They've made no attempt to have like some white showing
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in the front, which they've done with, you know,
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all the silver phones lately have been white phones
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with silver and I don't like white phones.
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I don't like it.
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Sorry, Casey Liss.
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I don't like white phones.
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I don't like how the fact that most of the time
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the screen is dark and then there's a white ring around it.
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It like highlights where your screen space is.
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I really don't like it.
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I prefer the illusion that when the phone is off,
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it's just a perfectly featureless
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or almost featureless slab, right?
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So that's what they've done with this one.
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The back is white and it's pretty.
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There's, even though it's glass, like the iPhone 8,
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there's an extra layer and they have like eight different
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layers of coating on this thing,
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including like the oleophobic coating
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and it's the reinforced glass.
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And it's got a lot of things that are like the 8.
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There is one apparently like layer that's different
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that makes it a little more kind of like shimmery,
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shimmery looking and it's nice looking.
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And so you've got the Apple logo is in silver,
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the word iPhone is in silver.
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And then the rest of it, you know, camera area,
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camera oval is black and then the whole rest of it is white,
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kind of a nice reflective silvery white.
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That's nice and so if you want that white phone back,
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you can get it.
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But to me, the star of this is the stainless steel
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on the silver phone is,
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'cause it's not like a silver phone,
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it's a stainless steel phone,
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it's a shiny stainless steel ring.
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So if you think about like the stainless steel Apple Watch,
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it's that kind of thing.
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It's a really noticeably bright, shiny, pretty stainless steel around the ring.
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Surgical of course.
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I don't know how I missed this.
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I thought that both phones had the stainless steel, stainless steel.
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I somehow missed.
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I think it's because the photos show it always looks reflective.
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I didn't know that the space grey phone had a kind of grey black treating treatment to
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the steel. So I mean I placed my order for the silver one because I think it's the one
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that I would like the most and I'm really excited about that because whilst I don't
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like the stainless steel Apple watch look for me, all of the pictures that I've seen
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of the iPhone with the shiny stainless steel bat around it, I really love it mostly because
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because it makes me think of the older iPhones that I love so much.
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So I'm really pleased that it's more shiny.
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Back of the original iPod, too, is something that struck me about it, right?
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It's this super shiny, polished, silvery stainless steel.
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It looks great.
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And I'm saying that as somebody who never chooses the silver phone, always chooses the
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space gray phone, the silver one looks great.
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I think the black one looks great, too, but I really like this look as the other look.
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So that's the one you have, the one Apple gave you was the silver one?
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So yeah, that's my review unit is silver and then my one that I bought that's coming Friday
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because that did work at 3am.
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I did get one that is supposed to be delivered on Friday.
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Well lucky, there's a whole other show that's like the upgrade that never happened basically
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that is talking about iPhone orders where we missed it, upgrade 164 and a half.
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But the short version of the story is that, as some people have noted, they're not selling
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this as a SIM-free, like, unlocked phone right now, as they often do with new Apple iPhones.
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They want you to tie it to the carrier, which frustrates me, because if I pay full price,
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I just don't want to even bother with the carrier.
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So at 3 a.m., they're like, "Put in your phone number and the last four digits of the social
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security number associated with your AT&T account."
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So I look that up, paste it in.
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I'm trying to do this all quickly.
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And to Apple's credit, somebody at Apple said, "You know, I don't want our customers to get
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screwed by things we can't control, like the carrier systems dying. So let's build in a
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contingency where if we can't contact the carrier, we're just going to hold that person's
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place in the reservation line. We're going to give them a phone as if they've already
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reserved it. And then we're going to send them an email saying, and post on the web
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form when you try to buy the phone, "We can't talk to your carrier right now. We will contact
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you. Your place has been saved." That's what happened to me, is they're like, "Look, essentially,
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look, AT&T has gone away. We don't know when they're coming back. Your order is secure.
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Go to bed. We'll email you tomorrow." And the next afternoon, I got an email from Apple
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saying, "Great. You have 24 hours to click through and complete your order because we
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have now reestablished diplomatic relations with AT&T
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and it worked.
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And then when that was all done, it said,
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"Great, you'll get a Friday."
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So that was actually pretty great on Apple's part
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that they identified the weak link in the chain,
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which is the carriers and worked around them.
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So in the end, I'll get the black phone on Friday
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and that's the real phone that I will keep in my pocket
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and this will go back to Apple.
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- Lucky you.
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- Yeah, it's great.
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I do not have a phone for delivery on Friday.
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- I'm sorry.
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- We'll see. - Come on over.
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- I have options.
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None of them are from Apple right now.
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I have some options.
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I'm investigating some areas
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into how I'm gonna procure a phone on Friday.
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Otherwise-- - Just stop on by.
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- Yeah, I'll just pop over.
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I'll just pop over.
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- Pop over to the house, yeah.
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- All right, there's so much more.
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So much more to cover.
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So let's talk about the screen.
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Now the iPhone X has an OLED screen, it's the first one we've ever had on an iPhone.
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How does this compare to the LCD screen?
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Well I spent some time with Wonder Woman, she's great, she says hi by the way.
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sounds like a great afternoon. No wonder you're so busy.
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- Unfortunately I had to leave
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'cause I had a review to write.
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I played Wonder Woman on my iPhone 8 and on the 10
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and just sort of in parallel and was watching them
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and comparing them and doing direct comparison.
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And yeah, I mean, it's what everybody says.
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It's what John Syracuse always talks about
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when he talks about OLED screens, right?
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Like the black levels are amazing.
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And I don't wanna get too video nerdy about it,
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but like I think anybody would notice the difference
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because on a backlit LCD screen, everything is lit.
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And so black, if you've ever had something
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that was really dark or even like totally black on your TV,
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your HDTV, and yet it's still glowed
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and you had that moment of like,
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how is it that this is supposed to be black?
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And yet my whole living room is lit.
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It's because even when the screen is black,
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the backlight is back there.
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And so you end up with this kind of like bright,
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let's call it space gray.
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Let's call it that.
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- Anything can be space gray.
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- Any, literally anything, except space, Myke,
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because space is black, not gray.
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But anyway, the OLED screens don't do that.
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The OLED screen, that's not how it works.
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the it puts out light when there's light to be put out and otherwise it doesn't
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and so looking at Wonder Woman I mean not only is it a high resolution screen
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this is the highest resolution
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screen I think that Apple has ever made in any product
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and it's 458 pixels per inch
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and that's you know theoretically that's beyond the level at which your
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eyes can actually detect the details of the pixels but what it does mean it's a
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1080 HD image with the black levels. It supports HDR video, so the
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dynamic range that's capable on the display is pretty
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impressive, so it can display bright content with detail and dark
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content with detail. And it looks really good. I mean, that's the bottom line is
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even if you weren't measuring the black levels, it looks really good.
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Now, one of the challenges with OLED is color shifting. I'm not great with
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color. It does shift a little bit if you look at it from angles but it is super
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subtle and not annoying in the way that even earlier LCD screens were
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and especially not some of the other smartphone screens that have had some
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serious color shifting problems when you watch it off angle. It's a good display
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and it also doesn't seem to be aggressively, you know, like what I said in the
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is like one of those TVs that set up at the store
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to pop all the colors so that your head explodes
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with the colors on the screen.
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A lot of panels will get cranked up like that
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to impress you with the color.
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And that's not, Apple wants to be accurate with the color
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and they did a pretty good job.
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So it looks great.
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It is as advertised a really nice looking display.
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Really nice.
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- And remind me, does this phone have True Tone in it?
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- Yeah, oh yeah. - Oh man.
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It's just like the 8, it's got the sensor and it's doing the on the fly True Tone adjustment.
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I cannot wait to see how my home screen looks.
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That was the big thing for me with the iPads when they went to True Tone.
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Everything just looked so much more rich.
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There was a vividness to it which I really enjoyed, so I'm very much looking forward
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to having that on my iPhone as well.
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Now obviously the screen goes all the way to the edges and by going all the way to the
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edges we get the notch.
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This is the thing that everybody was up in arms about.
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How is the notch gonna be?
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What's the notch gonna be like?
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So Jason, how is the notch?
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- Well, I mean, we'll see how it progresses over time.
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Different apps handle it in different ways.
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Generally, the way that seems to be good to handle it
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is that you kind of flow the background of your content
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into those areas underneath the status information.
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And you don't have any actual usable interface
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that's tappable up there, you have it be just sort of like
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part of the experience.
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But the experience of using it is definitely like,
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I don't look at the notch and think there is a thing
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chewing into my screen.
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I actually think about it more like,
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I look at the edges around the notch and think,
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the screen is so big that it is,
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it's gonna flow all the way until it hits something
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that can stop it.
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And so it goes around the camera notch area
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and otherwise it's like going completely
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to the edge up there.
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That's sort of how, if that makes any sense,
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like that's how it feels to me is that this is not,
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hey, we tried to do an all screen phone and stopped.
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It's more like every place we could possibly put screen,
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I think that's the message I get from this phone
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is that Apple saying, you know,
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we couldn't put it everywhere,
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but we didn't stop it lower down
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just because of the need for a camera housing.
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we're gonna flow it all the way to the top.
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And it has that effect of sort of like extending
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the experience, extending your field of view,
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even up where it should probably stop
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because there's a camera up there, it just keeps on going.
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- With the apps that you've been using,
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how is the optimization?
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- It's all over the place right now.
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I've got some betas, some apps have been updated.
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I have apps, let's see, there's a bunch of categories.
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They're the apps that have not been updated.
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- Where they're basically letterbox top and bottom.
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- So it probably looks like a regular iPhone, right?
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Like it's just the exact same screen size.
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- Yeah, pretty much.
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I mean, yeah, it just, all of a sudden
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the phone's not as tall.
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You've got kind of black areas top and bottom.
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So that happens with ones that have not been updated.
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- Just out of interest, because it's OLED,
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does that look good?
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Like, does it look like there isn't a screen there?
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Like, does it look like it's just plastic?
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Do you know what I mean?
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Like, does it look like, or close to like the bezel?
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'Cause like, when I'm on my Apple Watch, right,
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when I look at my Apple Watch, and that's, oh, that's green,
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where it's not on, it just looks like there's nothing.
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- The reason it doesn't is because you have the status bar
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at the top, and you have the bright white line
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that is your flip up here to go home, that's always there.
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- That's a shame.
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- Those remain.
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So those are still there as cues.
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And then the iPhone app screen like floats in the middle.
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- So that's what it's doing.
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It's trying to keep those things consistent
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'cause the status bar stays at the top
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and the little line for the multitasking
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and home essentially area stays there.
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- Does that have an official name?
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- If it does, I don't know what it is.
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The what do you call it bar.
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- The what you would call it.
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That's what we'll just refer to.
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- Exactly, that's what it is, the whatever.
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Then so the other things I've seen is there are apps
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that have been carefully considered and they,
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they do the right thing.
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Like I was looking at a Fantastical
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and it's got the red calendar bar at the top of the screen
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and on the iPhone 10, the red color just keeps extending
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all the way up to the top through the status bar
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and it looks good.
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it's really a consistent look.
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And then there's some apps and I'm not gonna name any names,
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but there are some apps where they still have work to do
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where like the color extends all the way to the top,
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but then they're like navigational elements
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at the bottom of the screen are all the way at the bottom,
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which means that they're like going off the edges
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of the curved edges and they're beneath
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the multitasking area,
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which means that you can't actually tap on them,
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which is bad because you can't.
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And those will be fixed, right?
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But that's an example where like, there's a lot of work
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and I'll reference, Marco Armentz talked about it on ATP
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and he's talked about it on an under the radar,
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but this is an update that requires active work
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by developers.
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Developers can't just phone it in with the iPhone 10.
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Huh, phone, they need to put in some work.
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This is not one of those things where it's like,
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oh yeah, you recompile it, you change a couple of things
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and then it all works.
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Like, no, you need to think about like,
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are you going to do with the top of the screen? What are you going to do with the bottom?"
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And that's still going on. So even Apple's apps, I mean, they all support it, but even
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there, there are those moments where I think, like, they've got, you know, sometimes they
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do it better than other times and they're still figuring it out themselves.
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Have you seen any apps that do more than just put color? Like, are there any apps that are
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using this for information or anything like that? Or does it really just seem like it's
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It's just the color that's on the top of the status bar is just stretched all the way to
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That's basically it right now.
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I imagine that that might change.
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I'm not quite sure what they have.
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The status bar is the status bar, right?
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Unless they hide the status bar and put something up there, which some may, but instead it's
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sort of like just giving you the sense that the status bar is part of the app interface
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and extends to the top of the screen and then just getting out of the way of the bottom.
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I think there may be some opportunities down at the bottom of the screen, especially on
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One of the things that Apple did with the keyboard is they actually, the keyboard sits
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up a little bit.
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There's like a gray area underneath the keyboard.
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The keyboard isn't down at the bottom of the screen like it is on all other iPhones.
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If you think about it, you can figure out why, which is all other iPhones have a gap.
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the keyboard never sits at the bottom of the phone.
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It sits with a gap between it
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and the bottom of the phone, right?
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And if you tried to hold a phone with two hands
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and do thumb typing, you realize very quickly,
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like thumb typing, where you have to tap all the way
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at the bottom of the phone is kind of awkward.
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- I would drop my phone, 100%.
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- Yeah, you either drop your phone
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or you like bend your thumbs way too far back.
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- Like I'm holding it right now
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as if I was typing on the bottom
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and it's just not secure enough.
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Right, so what they did is they put this kind of buffer area and then a keyboard. And that's
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a bummer in the sense that the app space above is less than it would be. Like, you're giving
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up some space in the app interface when you slide up the keyboard. But what they did do,
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which I think is kind of clever, is they put the emoji/international keyboard button and
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the microphone, you know, voice dictation button, they put those down in the left and
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right corners of the display to the left and right of the multitasking area. And that means
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that the like bottom row of the software keyboard has a little more spacious. There's a little
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more room because there's two keys that are out of there. And I thought that was a clever
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use of that space. And it made me wonder if other apps might, once they're up and running
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on iPhone 10, might start to experiment with like, could we do things with these new spaces?
00:36:39
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But I think, you know, phase one is literally make it not be in a letterbox, make sure that
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their interface elements don't collide with the edges of the screen or slide under the
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home area, all of those things, because that's like step one.
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What I would like to see with that area is, you know, like on the iPad you have the persistent
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buttons on the keyboard, like the copy and paste buttons.
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I would like to see something like that there, because from the images that I've seen, it
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just looks like you've kind of got the dictation on one side, the smiley face on the other,
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and then just the gray area, you know, it would be nice to maybe see some stuff go in
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Yeah, the problem is that the gray area is also colliding with multitasking and swipe
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up, so you've got to be careful there, but I do wonder about that. I actually, I think
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it's ergonomics, I actually was wondering why they didn't put the autocorrect stuff
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below, but I think the rationale there is that you want to see it above because you're
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looking at your content, and so you want the content and the autocorrect to stay together.
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Because you'd be covering the autocorrect options with your hands, most likely, right?
00:37:43
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Like you wouldn't see them when you'd be obscured from view.
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Right. So there's a lot of these things that obviously Apple has had more than a month
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and a half to think about, and app developers have only had a month and a half at most to
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think about. So I expect more to be done here, and then always, yeah, everybody's going to
00:38:01
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look at how the Apple apps implemented all of this stuff and say, "All right, why did
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they do that because there are lessons to be learned there. But, you know, when an app
00:38:10
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fully, when I launch an app that's already been, because you don't really know, right?
00:38:14
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Like you just, I just restored my phone from my backup and it downloaded apps from the
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app store. I don't know which ones have been updated and which ones haven't. There are
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a couple of things that I've got in beta on TestFlight, but mostly it's just things in
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the app store. And then every now and then I open one and I'm like, "Oh, this one's on
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the iPhone 10." Like I said with Fantastic College, like, "Oh, look at that. Isn't that
00:38:33
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- That's nice. - Look at you.
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- And then others like Slack I opened, I'm like,
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- Black bars.
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And actually it's a weird,
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I wonder if they've changed something with that,
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you know, swipe from the left gesture,
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where you swipe from the screen edge to go back.
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I wonder if something's changed there,
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'cause what I've actually found is in an app like Slack
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that really relies on that swipe from the left gesture,
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I have to be way more careful about how I do it,
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or it doesn't trigger.
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So I think that there may be some,
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I think maybe the edge gestures have all been tweaked
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a little bit in the iPhone 10,
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and that maybe some apps are gonna have to react
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to that too, but I don't know any technical reasons why.
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All I know is that literally I used to just do
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a very sloppy swipe from the left edge of the phone
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to the right to bring up, open the channel view in Slack,
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and now I kind of need to plant my finger,
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plant my thumb on the screen and swipe to the right
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to get it to work reliably.
00:39:28
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- Okay, so there's some tweaking, right?
00:39:29
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there's some tweaking that they need to do for that.
00:39:32
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- Yeah, I mean, in other words,
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if you're somebody who is really excited
00:39:35
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about some of these features on the iPhone 10
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and the big screen and expects all of your favorite apps
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to support it right away, you may be disappointed
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because it is not trivial to do this.
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And they had very little time.
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Keep in mind, these are also developers
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who worked all summer to support iOS 11 stuff.
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They finally hit the finish line
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and the day they're about to hit the finish line,
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a new phone with totally new screen size
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that's very different from what's come before is announced.
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So, you know, at that point they're like,
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kind of exhausted, and now they've got a whole new version
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of their app that they basically need to do
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in order to address it.
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So it may take a little bit of time.
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- This has happened before, right?
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When we got the 6 and the 6S, the 12.9 and the Sharp Air Pro,
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like this is a thing that's happened.
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When we got the 5, like as every time screens get bigger,
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there has to be some kind of considerations.
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And these considerations are different
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because the screen is bigger,
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but it also has a cut taken out on the top and bottom,
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But you know, it's just stuff to consider, right?
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Like and developers will find their ways around it.
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There will be, I'm sure, many new design conventions
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that come out of this over the next couple of months.
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You know, like someone has a really smart idea
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and then it starts to pollinate across the, you know,
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across the ecosystem, like port to refresh
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or something like that, you know, or hamburger buttons.
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I'm sure there'll be some stuff like that
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that starts to pop out as people work, you know,
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kind of work through this stuff and work out some things
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over the next weeks and months and stuff like that.
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the new home button which we'll refer to as the home indicator because that seems to be
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how it's being referred to in the HIG, thanks to the chatroom for digging that up.
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All righty. So the home indicator, how easy is it to use this? I mean,
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is this something that you're struggling to get used to? You're swiping up now rather than
00:41:16
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pressing a button. How has this been? I love it. It takes some getting used to,
00:41:21
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but it doesn't take a lot of getting used to. It happens pretty fast because – and everybody's
00:41:25
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different and everybody's how they hold their phone is different right so
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everybody's gonna have an experience for me this is a way less complicated
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gesture than the old one because keeping in mind the old one was put thumb flat
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on touch ID sensor have it register press the button and now all I have to
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do and it's it's basically the same place and in fact when I forget that I'm
00:41:48
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using an iPhone 10 and I put my thumb down there and I realize there's no
00:41:51
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button, all I do is flip up, like from the place I expected the home button to be, and
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it unlocks the phone. So it's like literally for me, the same place. It's just instead
00:42:02
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of holding my thumb flat and then pressing, I'm able to just do a swipe. So it's a less
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complicated gesture that is pretty much the same in terms of muscle memory, but easier.
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So I like it.
00:42:19
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It takes a little getting used to, but I really like it.
00:42:22
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I think it's totally natural.
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I think there are gestures that have been redefined that are going to take more getting
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used to and are less discoverable and maybe a little finicky, but the actual swipe up
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to unlock or go home, I think it is super easy and natural.
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What about the multitasking view?
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That one takes a little more getting used to because you've got to swipe and hold and
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remember to keep holding until the other kind of cards come out, which is both a little
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less discoverable and also more easily accidentally triggered, but it's, you know, once you learn
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that it's there, it's pretty easy to bring it up consistently. It's just that one requires
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a little more thought at first to get your head around.
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- And there's also this one where you kind of swipe
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the bar and go backwards and forwards, right?
00:43:16
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Like this seems to be a thing.
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- Yeah, this is the reason why
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I think iOS 11 accidentally, question mark,
00:43:26
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did away with the 3D touch from left to right
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to go back to the previous app, remember that?
00:43:33
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Remember that thing that used to be a feature
00:43:35
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and then in iOS 11 it sort of got turned off
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and they said, "No, no, no, it'll come back
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in a future update." - I think it's back now.
00:43:40
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because 11.1 came out today as extra,
00:43:42
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actually while we're recording,
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bringing with it emoji and the re-installation
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of this feature. - Yay!
00:43:48
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Yeah, so this is why that went away, right?
00:43:53
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It seems, because this is that feature essentially.
00:43:55
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So they rebuilt it for the iPhone 10
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and then I guess forgot or couldn't get back
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to getting it work for the other devices again,
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because it's the same premise,
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which is if you put your finger or thumb down there
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in that multitasking area
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and you do a straight on swipe left or right,
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it moves you in that stack.
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So, you know, from left to right,
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it will take you back to the previous app.
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And then left to right again,
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will take you back another one.
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And then if you go right to left,
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it will take you back to the one that's to the right
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in that kind of,
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when you don't do any other multitasking stuff,
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it tries for a little while to keep them
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in the right sequence.
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So if you've got like calendar, email and Safari,
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and you go left to right from calendar to email
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and left to right from email to Safari,
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if you don't, I don't know whether it's time
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or more multitasking or whatever,
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but for a while at least, if you're like,
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oh no, actually I wanna go back to email,
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then you go right to left and it will
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flip you back to email. - I like that a lot.
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I really like that.
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- It's basically the four finger swipe
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to switch apps from the iPad.
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- 'Cause the iPad has that.
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It keeps you in place for a period of time.
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You go left, right, left, right.
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You're not going left, left, left, left, right?
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It's kind of keeping some persistence
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as to where you've come from and where you're going,
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rather than just immediately moving the old apps to the left.
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- Right, it would be super confusing if you went,
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"Oh, to my left is this is app B."
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And then you're like, "Now I want to go back to app A.
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"I will go to the right."
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And it was like, "Oh no, I don't know
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"what you're talking about, this is the end."
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'Cause it's like, "No, I just came from there."
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- Yeah, A is at the left again now, right?
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Like they all just jump over one.
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So yeah, I'm pretty pleased about that.
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- And that's super confusing.
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- That's excellent.
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- You could also never get to a third app using that, right?
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It would always be those two, and you'd be like,
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I'm trapped, I can't get up, right?
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So instead they maintain some amount of like
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that geography temporarily, that geography persists.
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And that, you know, it's a,
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I think it's a way more discoverable
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and a natural gesture than the 3D touch, you know,
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push hard and then swipe with your finger
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and then you go to the previous app.
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Now it's just swipe in that area left to right.
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And it, you know, basically as you're swiping your finger
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or thumb, the interface is sliding underneath you
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and bringing that other app in.
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Cover sheet has seen some changes, right?
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There's a flashlight and camera button
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now on the notification lock screen thing.
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- Yeah, I think this is a reaction to the fact
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that control center has been exiled to the top right.
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- And it actually makes me a little bit sad
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'cause I know they wanna limit what junk is on that
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lock screen because they want you to see your notifications.
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But I found myself thinking,
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could we not have like optionally
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a few more control center items on the screen.
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Yeah, I would prefer home to the flashlight for example.
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Right right I mean I use a flashlight all the time and I know how to swipe right to
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get to the camera so I really don't need a camera button there right.
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Does swiping right still go to the camera?
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Even though there's this persistent button that's interesting.
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Yeah if you just swipe right on the main interface not down in the application thing but the
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main interface and the lock screen it does exactly what it used to do which is and left
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takes you to the widgets.
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But if you 3D touch on the flashlight,
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the flashlight comes on, which their thought there is,
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if you really need to take a picture
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or flash the flashlight, you want quick access to that.
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So they put those on the screen with quick access.
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- So talking about Control Center,
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one thing that I'm a little bit disappointed about
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is the fact that it's been moved
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to a not so convenient place
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when I really wish they would have found a way
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to integrate it into the multitasking view
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like it is on the iPad.
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So you're still swiping up and then it's there.
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You're like how on the iPad,
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the kind of the multitasking and the control center
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is all in the same place.
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But with the iPhone 10, if I'm right,
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you pull down from one of the ears of the phone,
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the little Batman ears,
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and you pull down from the right one, if that's correct,
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and then left and middle is still
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to bring down your notifications,
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but the right one brings down control center.
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- Yep, that's it.
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And it makes me a little bit sad because as I pointed out,
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the top of the screen is very far away.
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And I got used to flipping up control center, right?
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- Yeah. - And now you can't.
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Now for me, control center is not a casual flip up
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with my thumb.
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Now it is a bring over the other hand,
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take the index finger and bring it down.
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So it's, I know why they did it.
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I mean, they had to do it because that
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go to the home screen gesture is the most important gesture.
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And that is the most natural place to put it,
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but it still makes me sad because I like Control Center
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and I use it all the time.
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And it is kind of in, you know,
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exiled into Siberia at this point.
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It's way up in the top right.
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It is as far away.
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'Cause I hold my, I found one handed in my left hand.
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And so the up top right is just, forget it.
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Like I'm never gonna casually reach the Control Center now.
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It's never gonna happen.
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- And there's no way to flip those around?
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- That's too core a feature to, I mean, I wouldn't want to,
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I wouldn't want to make going back to the home screen
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exiled either, right?
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- I meant like the left and right, you know,
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like can you put control center on the left and...
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- Well, yeah, I wondered if there is there another gesture
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that you could do to bring up control center?
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I'd actually rather have a control center button
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on the lock screen, quite honestly.
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Like instead of flashlight, I'd rather 3D touch
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to bring up control center,
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but that's not in the cards either, it seems.
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- Can you combine it with the reachability?
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if you activate reachability, can you then just swipe down from what would be the previous area?
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Because this is something you used to be able to do, and I think has actually come back with
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11.1 or it's coming from 11.2, that if you use reachability, you can just swipe down on the
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blank area to bring the notification screen down. Can you do the same for control center? Like if
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you use reachability and swipe from the right hand side, does it bring control center down from like
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halfway on the screen rather than the top? Yes, it does. So that's how I expect I will be using it.
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So it's two gestures rather than one, but I bet I will get used to that pretty quickly,
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like swipe swipe.
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Like I feel like I will, that will get embedded for me over time as what I end up doing.
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So reachability, if I'm following correctly from your review, you have to enable it as
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an accessibility setting, which is fine.
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And then you swipe down on the home indicator, right?
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Is that how that works?
00:50:14
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Yeah, basically.
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So it's a little bit more fine a gesture than a lot of these, where you can just sort of
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start on the left or the right or the bottom and then flip up.
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This one, you have to land your finger or thumb
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in that space down there by the home indicator,
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high enough up that you can give then a little pull down.
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So you basically land near the bottom of the screen
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and then pull down and then reachability triggers,
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which is logical in the sense that you are literally
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kind of pulling the interface downward.
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But it just requires a little more finesse
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with and precision with where you land your finger
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because you don't wanna be too high up
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or you're just gonna scroll through the app.
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- Right, you've gotta be down there in that area
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which is why that area needs to stay clear
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because there are like these system wide gestures
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that are going on down in that area.
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- So Vidit in the chat room just shared a mock-up
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that he put together that a while ago
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which I actually really like of where maybe control center
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could go in the multitasking view
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And I hope that that's something that maybe could get added in the future,
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like a way to try and combine those two, uh,
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to make it a little bit more useful. Um, I would really like that because,
00:51:27
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you know, Apple do it on the iPad and this is the same gesture, right?
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The swipe up. I think that's kind of where it came from.
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And I wouldn't be surprised if that's one of the reasons that you've gotten used
00:51:35
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to it and I'll get used to it quickly is I'm very used to now never using the
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home button on my iPad. I just do the swipe up gesture to get to everything.
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So I expect that will embed with me quite quickly too, for that reason.
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- It doesn't solve it on the lock screen though,
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which is the other part of this.
00:51:51
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But like I said, you could potentially just put
00:51:54
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a control center button on the lock screen
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so that I could 3D touch that
00:51:58
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and then the lock screen becomes the control center.
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- I'm gonna assume that iOS 12 brings something
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because every single version of iOS changes control center
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in some new way.
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So we can cross our fingers.
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- I love the new control center and I use it all the time.
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I use it to adjust screen brightness.
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I use it for home kit.
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I use it all the time.
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I use it for music controls and also to connect my AirPods because there's a quick way to
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do that if you click that little chevrony thing in the corner.
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I hope that they find some way to make that either A) more useful or B) that after some
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use I get used to the new way of activating it.
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Last thing I want to talk about in regards to iOS's changes, because that's what this
00:52:40
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segment is by the way, this is the changes to iOS, is the many buttons and the way that
00:52:46
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that they're all changing. So kind of how do you take a screenshot and how do you turn
00:52:50
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off the iPhone?
00:52:52
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Uh, oh boy. So taking a screenshot, you use the side button and the volume up button.
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But this is the story is, okay, every single gesture that's on the home button has to move.
00:53:09
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How do we move them all? So that's how you do the screenshot. To do Siri, you hold down
00:53:13
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on the side button, like you used to hold down
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the home button.
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To do Apple Pay, you double tap the side button,
00:53:17
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like you used to double tap the home button.
00:53:19
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To do a reboot, you hold down the right, the side button
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and the, I wanna say the volume up button
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and you hold them down, I think is what it is,
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for a while and you'll get that, you know,
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the prompt to turn it off.
00:53:38
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- That's to turn it off, right?
00:53:39
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That's to turn off.
00:53:40
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- Yeah, and then the reboot, and this is amazing.
00:53:43
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- This is the forced restart you're talking about now.
00:53:45
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- Yeah, it's like, remember where you,
00:53:47
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where it used to be home and the side button
00:53:50
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or the, it used to be the top button,
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but you know, the sleep wake button
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and you hold them both down and it's like die.
00:53:56
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- And then it changed to on the seven with like.
00:53:59
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- Seven because there's no physical,
00:54:01
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it's a software home button basically.
00:54:02
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- And it's like volume down and.
00:54:05
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- So on the eight, it is volume up, volume down
00:54:09
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and then hold the side button.
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- So wait. - In that order.
00:54:12
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It's like control alt delete.
00:54:13
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- You press up, down, it's like a cheat code.
00:54:16
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- It's like a cheat code.
00:54:17
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- That's incredible.
00:54:18
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- For rebooting your iPhone.
00:54:18
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- It's the Konami code for iPhone.
00:54:21
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- I love that, that's hilarious.
00:54:23
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I mean, okay, like I see why they're doing it.
00:54:25
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It's, and also I reckon most people very rarely need that.
00:54:29
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What they most of the time need is just the way
00:54:31
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to bring up the turn off, right?
00:54:32
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Like I feel like in most situations
00:54:34
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that will probably solve what people are looking for.
00:54:37
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But yeah, it's funny that, I mean,
00:54:39
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I would have thought that just holding all three buttons
00:54:41
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would work fine. That feels to me more like a bailout situation.
00:54:46
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I think they don't want to make it easy, because you don't normally want to force reboot an
00:54:52
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iPhone. So they want to make it for people in the know or who are looking up an emergency
00:54:58
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thing online, but not everywhere.
00:55:01
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So that's that part. There are more button uses that I'm going to talk about, but we're
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Okay so Face ID, maybe the main event, you know, like I know that the screen is like
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a big thing but I think Face ID, this is the thing that like, what is this going to be
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be? What fundamental change is this going to be to the iPhone? Because the screen is
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the screen. We know Apple can make a good screen, right? No matter what it is they've
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done, they're so good at this now, the screen's going to be great. And you can decide whether
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you like or don't like the notch, but that's your own personal taste. But Face ID, facial
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recognition, it's never really been done very well before, especially on phones. So I'm
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going to go through all of this with you, Jason. How was the setup process?
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Shockingly easy, easier than Touch ID, I would argue.
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Psst, I hate the Touch ID setup.
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- I hate it.
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- Right? - I hate it.
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- Okay, so Touch ID where it's like,
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hey, we scanned your finger.
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Now change your grip and keep repeatedly
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touching your finger awkwardly on the thing
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until we tell you not to, as we show you an animation
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that may or may not be tied to what's actually happening.
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- And then I have to go into settings
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and add every single other one of my fingers, right?
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like you do this like five times or something.
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- Well, good news, you only have one face
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and it'll only accept one face.
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- This is frustrating for me,
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but it's not the end of the world.
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Like, you know, I would like, like me and Adina,
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we share fingerprints on our devices and it would,
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you know, she's just gonna, she knows my code,
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she's gonna have to use the code, right?
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- Yeah, that is, I wish it would support more faces
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and maybe it will in the future
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and maybe there's some hardware constraints there,
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but it will only do it, but yeah, training is easy.
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like shockingly easy so uh... when you set it up it'll train you but you can
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also at any time
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uh... just going to settings into the uh... face i_d_ settings of the settings
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and say enable face i_d_ and what happens and there's a video in my review
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on six colors
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i did a minute and a half video of like the top features
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of it it's hosted by a monkey and emoji with my voice. By the way, I just want to say about
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this as a quick aside i have no idea how you did this
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I have no idea how you wrote the review and made a video.
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You are superhuman, Jason Snow.
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- Don't tell anybody or they'll come
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and take me to Area 51.
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- Shh, don't tell anybody.
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Now you've gotta be the alien emoji now.
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- So my entire enrollment in Face ID is in that video.
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And that's like, I think I shortened the pause
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between the two scans by a half a second or something
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to get it to match my voiceover.
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But basically it's all there.
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And all you do is you say, train, okay, so train face ID.
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And it shows you a selfie,
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the selfie camera with a kind of like a target box.
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And you're supposed to put your face in there.
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And then when it does that,
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then suddenly you get like a circle.
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And it's very much sort of like guiding you to like,
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look at the thing and see your face in the circle.
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And once that happens, then you get this,
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it's like a little, like a clock almost around your face.
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and it says, and like sound effect begins to play
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of like it's seriously like,
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like it's scanning you, but it's just a sound effect.
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It's just silly.
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And they did it to make you feel like your face
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is being scanned 'cause it is,
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but it's being done silently.
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So they make a sound effect.
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And the text basically says, move your head around
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sort of in a circle until the circle fills in.
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And so basically at that point,
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there's this like clock ring around you.
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And as you basically want to kind of like lift your head up and kind of pivot your neck
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and just sort of like let your phone see different angles of your face. And as you do that, it's
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giving you the feedback as the little circle moves around. So essentially, you do one little
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neck stretch from 9 o'clock to midnight down to 6 o'clock and back to 9 o'clock, like just
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around the dial. And it goes, "Great, do that one more time." And you do it one more time
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and it says "Done!" and that's it. It takes no time, it's completely painless. I do have
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a trivia tidbit and this came out of my briefing, which is Face ID is entirely based on infrared.
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The only time that the selfie camera gets used is in the setup process to give you feedback
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where you see yourself as you would see you in visible light. That's the only time that
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camera is used, the RGB camera. In terms of the actual training and actual sensing and
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actual detecting, all of that is infrared. They've got the dot.
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It's not the camera, they're just showing you it's working.
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That's for humans. That's so smart.
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That's to make you feel good about what you're doing.
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It's not needed. It's like in the same way that you don't see a picture of your thumb
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when you're using Touch ID. It's not required.
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So they show that to you and they play the weird sound effect of scanning and they put
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this little computer scanning effect over your face to make you feel like, "Yes, now
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it's tracking my face and it knows me, but that's all for show. In the background, it's
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got an infrared blaster basically that's bathing your face in infrared, which you can't see,
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and it's got the dot projector which is putting those dots on your face.
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That's Apple whimsy, what that is right there. That really is great.
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Oh yeah. Well also, I mean, it's whimsy, well it's Apple whimsy in the sense that it's whimsy
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with a user purpose, which is to make you feel, it's delighting you in the fact that
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your face is being scanned, but it's also giving you feedback that yes, this is a futuristic
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device that is scanning your face with its magical process.
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- Oh, that's so great. I love that.
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- To make you feel like it's actually happening, right down to the fact that it's got these
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sound effects going on in the background. But it's super fast. I mean, you really, you
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do a couple of neck stretches and you're done.
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- How fast is it to unlock, Jason? Let's be real.
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Okay, let's be real. Face ID makes unlocking your phone irrelevant. It's a, I saw, I think
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it was Ben Baharan? Somebody said, or no, Horace Deju said, "It's not a feature."
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From a user perspective, it's basically not a feature. Once you get used to it, which
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takes no time, like I'm already doing it, so it took me hours. Once you are used to
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the fact that when you pick up your phone
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and flip up from the bottom, it just opens.
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You stop thinking about Face ID.
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It just, it disappears.
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And it's fast enough that most of the time,
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when I flip up, it's already unlocked.
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And the way Apple has done it,
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if you flip up and it's not unlocked,
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it completes the unlocking procedure
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and then proceeds with the flip up gesture.
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So you don't have to wait to see that the lock is now unlocked and then flip.
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There's no like pause for unlock.
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Now I'll go.
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You just pick up your phone and flip and it all happens.
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And I have not had a, I have not had a failure.
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The only failures I've had are when I have like been showing it to somebody.
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And so there's like multiple faces or it's pointed out out of the fit or I'm
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holding it kind of in an unusual way, but in terms of just literally just picking
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it up and flipping that works every time.
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And yes, occasionally there is a delay where I flip
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and I see the words face ID for a moment
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and then they go away, but it is momentary.
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It is a fraction of a second.
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So I'm very impressed.
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Like again, your face may vary.
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In fact, it probably will.
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Otherwise you could unlock my phone, but it just worked.
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I mean, I hate to say it just works, right?
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We all joke about, oh, it just works.
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It just works.
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Like for me, it has just worked
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And it shows you why,
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we talked about this on the show before,
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the goal here is not what if we made face scanning,
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if you're Apple, right?
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The goal is what if we made it so that
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when you use your phone, it knows it's you
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and it just unlocks it and you don't have to change
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anything about your behavior.
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And that's the goal.
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And I think they met it.
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Like, I don't, it's just not an issue.
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And on top of that,
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on apps that do biometric authentication,
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you can, you see where it's like, you know,
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it brings up a little Face ID thing and then it opens.
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But like, I don't have to like,
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oh yeah, right, I need to enable Touch ID
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and move my thumb down and have it read my thumbprint
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and now I can use the thing.
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Instead it goes like, boop, Face ID unlocked
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and that's it for apps too.
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It's pretty great, pretty great.
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- If you try like angles,
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like do you have to have the phone right in front
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of your face?
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What is that like?
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- I mean, it just seems to work
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unless you get it kind of like at an unreasonable angle.
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Like if it's laying down on a table,
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I kind of have to lean over like, hello.
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And then it unlocks.
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- Okay. - Right?
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So you can't, yeah.
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So if you want to unlock it,
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like when it's in your pocket
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or when it's laying on the table,
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you know, six inches away from you into the table.
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Yeah, it's not gonna unlock 'cause it can't see you.
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But you know, the use case
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that's by far the most common is you pick up your phone
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and with the raise to wake,
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you literally like lift up your phone
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and your thumb is moving to the bottom of the screen
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and you flip it open and your phone's open
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and you just don't even think about it.
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And that happens, for me, that happened very quickly.
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Like this morning in the car, my wife is driving,
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we're coming back from the doctor
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and I was like, oh yeah, I wanna see what's going on.
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And I took the phone out and I went flip and was looking
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and then I thought, oh yeah, I just unlocked that phone
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without even thinking about it.
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I didn't think about where my face was, was I looking?
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I was just behaving like a person using their phone
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and it all just happened.
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- And you can do like, I mean, you know,
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this is my hope is that like, you know,
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you just take your phone out your pocket,
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you just swipe up and look at it like it's just a motion.
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Like, you know, the swipe up is done
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before it's in front of your face kind of thing.
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- Yeah, and that works, right?
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Like if you pick it up and you're swiping
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and it's not open yet,
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by the time you get it up to your face,
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then it Face ID unlocks and it opens
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and it holds that gesture.
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It knows you're trying to open the phone
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and it holds that gesture
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and it puts up a translucent sheet that says face ID,
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and then the thing, little thing spins
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for a fraction of a second and it unlocks.
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So you, even though there's two steps,
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you can do them out of sequence and it's fine.
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- And because of the face ID stuff,
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it's also hiding notifications now, right?
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- Yeah, by default, that was already a setting
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that you could do, but now it's by default.
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So like, I got a Slack message from Stephen Hackett
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while we were doing this, and it just shows up,
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if I tapped to wake, it just shows up as a Slack message
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and it says Slack message from Stephen Hackett,
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but it doesn't show me the message.
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And then I picked up the phone to look at it
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and it Face ID unlocked still at the lock screen
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and revealed the content of the message on unlock,
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which is pretty cool.
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The other place that I've noticed face detection
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outside of Animoji is in the screen lock setting,
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like 30 seconds of inactivity to do screen locking.
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It uses attention detection on that.
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So if you're sitting on your phone and after 30 seconds,
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it's gonna dim because you're not actually looking,
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you're not actually interacting with it.
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If you're still looking at it, it won't dim the phone
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'cause it knows you're looking at the phone.
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Why would you turn off the screen
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when you're looking at content on an unlocked iPhone.
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And so it won't, it just won't do that,
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which is something you can do when you're,
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literally the phone is aware of whether it's being watched.
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- And how do purchases in the App Store work?
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'Cause you know, you usually, you'd press buy
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and then scan your thumbprint.
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Like how is it doing that?
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'Cause I'm always looking at it,
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so how is it authorizing the purchase?
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- It basically is the same workflow
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as on the previous ones,
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where you know, you've got that Apple Pay-like thing.
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That's not actually Apple Pay because Apple,
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the App Store doesn't take Apple Pay because reasons.
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Anyway, so you basically double tap the side,
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which is the Apple Pay gesture.
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And then it does a face ID scan.
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So that's how you confirm,
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'cause you don't wanna just say,
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"Oh, I see your face, I'll just charge your account."
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- Yeah, 'cause yeah, that doesn't work.
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That's not how it works. - That's not good.
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So it has you do the little double tap Apple Pay gesture,
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even though it's not Apple Pay.
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and then it checks that it's you and it's a done deal.
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- So we spoke about Animoji a little bit at the top
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and kind of pip it through and you know, you say,
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right, so like this seems like a really impressive feature
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technologically and from an animation perspective.
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Is this something you think that you'll use?
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Like can you see yourself using Animoji?
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- Well, yeah.
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I think it's more likely gonna be stickers
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than anything else with funny expressions.
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- Yeah, 'cause you can, you can what?
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you can make a face and then turn it into a sticker, right?
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- 'Cause I'm not sure I just wanna send people movies
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of like me talking with an animal face, right?
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I like, I'm not sure I wanna do that,
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but I like the idea of making a,
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sort of like making my own expression
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that the face is a mask that I wear
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and then I make an expression.
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It doesn't necessarily even need to match
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the existing emoji expressions.
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And then I can send that off.
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I think that's probably more likely gonna be the case
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then that I'm going to be sending those Animoji messages. I'm not convinced in the long term
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if this isn't more like, you know, like other iMessage apps and stickers and things where
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it's a fun thing for people to do and it'll be novel and then some people will keep using
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it and everybody else will stop using it, but it's very cool technology. I, you know,
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I didn't lead with it in my review because while it is adorable and I think the animations
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are really great and I think everybody's going to be sending Animoji messages for the first
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few weeks that they have an iPhone 10. In the long run, I don't know. I mean, I was
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actually thinking I would rather, um, uh, what about things like an emoji picker where
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you pick, where you say, I want the smiley face and you know, the, the, the, the circular
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circle yellow face, and then you give a, a facial expression and it picks the emoji that's
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closest to that and just sends that like an actual emoji. I think someone could build
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that. I think probably someone will build that. I hope that they do. Cause that sounds
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like a fun demo, right? Like even if you don't use it, like that sounds like a fun little
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keyboard to have. I think that's something somebody could build.
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And I can't, I also like, uh, you know, will there be more Animoji characters down the
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road? Maybe so, because obviously it's, it's hard to do it because you've got to do a lot
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of character animation, but that would be fun too. So, you know, maybe I also, you know,
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they've only got it down as this sort of like 10 seconds with sound kind of thing. And I
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wonder if there's some variation that can be done in terms of like, could you turn that
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into like an animation that has no sound that you can just do a really quick like three
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second animation and send that instead because I feel like that would be less intrusive than
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a video with audio to send like an animation.
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So the stickers then adjust static, they're not moving stickers?
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Yeah I think they're just static.
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I think you basically pose and then drag it out or tap to send it as a stick.
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I mean you can have moving stickers so I hope that they find a way to make that happen for an emoji
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That'd be nice almost like live
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Animoji yeah kind of thing where you you do a little thing and then it turns it into an animated sticker
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Yeah, I don't think that is something that exists right now
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So I have a couple of little things left to round this out first off the camera. Is this what you'd expect?
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What what is different with this camera to the iPhone 8 camera the big things are?
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optical image stabilization on both
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which the plus does not have.
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- So this is both back lenses, right?
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- Both of the back lenses.
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So it's got OIS on the telephoto
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as well as on the wide angle,
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which the eight plus does not.
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- And then what else?
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It's got a wider aperture,
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the telephoto does on the 10 than the eight.
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Otherwise it's pretty much the same.
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There are a lot of things that are shared, right?
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glass back, although it's not exactly the same, it's pretty close. The selfie camera
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itself is the same. The rear-facing wide angle is basically the same. The telephoto is a
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little bit better. So the chip is the same. This is not using a faster A11 bionic, right?
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It is the same chip. It uses the machine learning part of it more because of the Face ID stuff,
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it's the same chip, the same speed. I ran Geekbench on both the 8 and the 10, and they're
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the same. So it has a lot of things in common. Of course, nobody's upgrading from the 8--well,
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there was somebody out there who was upgrading from the 8 to the 10, and they bought an 8,
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and then three weeks later they're going to get a 10. Okay, fair. But 99% of people will
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be upgrading from a previous model. That's true, although that's the review unit on my
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real one, but it is most of what is in the 8 plus some things that are unique to the 10.
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So it shares a lot of the advances that the 8 had. The wireless charging, the inductive charging,
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is another example of that. The processor is the same. The camera, the zoom camera,
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the telephoto camera is subtly better, but not dramatically, just subtly better,
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lets in a little more light. It has the OIS, which actually means that in low-light settings,
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where sometimes on the plus models, when you're zooming in in a low-light setting,
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even though you're zoomed in, the software will actually keep that zoom, but it'll actually flip
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over to the other camera. I don't know if you knew this, but this is something that happens
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sometimes is you're zoomed in with a, what you think is an optical zoom, but it's kind of dark.
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- Yeah. - And it'll be like,
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I'm gonna use a digital zoom instead on the other camera because it's got image stabilization. And
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so it's gonna be a better image, even though it's a digital zoom because of the image stabilization.
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On this camera, they both have image stabilization. So that'll be, you'll get better kind of low light
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stuff going on. - So it's not doing the swapping.
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- I think, I mean, it may, but it has less reason to.
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And then let's not forget, the biggest thing here is,
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if you're somebody like me, who has never bought a Plus phone
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because they're too big for them,
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this is the first small sized-ish iPhone
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to have the two cameras set up.
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So I'm gonna have the two cameras set up in my pocket
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every day for the first time, which is very exciting.
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- Yeah, it's a great life, I'll tell you that.
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last thing now I'm only asking this because people want me to ask it and I'm
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sure you don't have a good enough answer for it yet but I'm gonna ask it anyway
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that's a great reason that's a great reason people want to know is a great
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reason to ask a question battery life
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well Myke I'm happy to report that I've had the phone for less than 24 hours and
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I haven't run out of battery because I've kept it charged I have nothing to
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report I wanted to ask it because people will wonder why we didn't but I know you
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you haven't had enough time and also the first set up of a phone kills the battery like it's
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not a good test. We'll report back on that next week.
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Because it's doing spotlight indexing and it's downloading apps and the whole thing
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it got it was definitely when it was doing the restore it was chewing through battery
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life so that's going to be a long term thing to watch given that Apple is confident enough
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to quote two extra hours of battery life and Matthew Panzarino who had the phone for a
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while he had it for a week at TechCrunch. Panzer says that it lasted longer for sure.
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And I read I think the BuzzFeed review Nicole said that it was interesting the way she phrased
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it which is like you can't get through two days with it but you can get through more
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than one day was her takeaway which is awesome if that's if that's the case. It sounds like
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there's more that there's more you know this is not a two-day phone battery but we may
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be getting to the point where with the X, it really truly is an all-day battery.
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All right, so I mean this is kind of it for the review. Is there anything you wanted to
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add? I don't know. I mean you read my review while
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I was sleeping. Sure did.
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More app updates will help. That's some of what's going on here.
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And we're going to know more about that over the next few days, right? Some of those apps
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are going to start to come out over the next few days. Obviously, we'll have more to say
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next week because one you'll have had a week with it and two hopefully I have one as well
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and we'll have had a long weekend with it so there will be more about this next week.
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Now of course we did have our listeners send us in Ask Upgrade Questions and I have a selection
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way to cook. Time for some iPhone X Ask Upgrade.
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Infrared dots.
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Yeah, that's what it is now. Lee wants to know, Jason, have you had any accidental touches
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with the palm of your hand as you hold the device? Because, you know, maybe your hand
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is like stretching over to the screen more than it would normally. Have you noticed anything
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Okay, great.
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They've learned how to do this with the iPad over time.
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James wants to know, "Do screenshots of the iPhone X
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black out the notch in the rounded corners,
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or are they just rectangle squares with everything there?"
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- They are complete rectangles,
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which means the notch is not there,
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nor are the rounded corners,
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'cause if I didn't mention it earlier,
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the other thing about this is that there are lots
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of rounded edges to this phone.
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It is not perfectly square.
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The screen ends in these rounded edges
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that match the rounded edges of the device.
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But when you take a screenshot, it's a rectangle,
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which is why, like, if you look at my video,
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what I ended up doing was taking a photo of the iPhone,
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emptying out, basically, erasing the screen portion
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and making that transparent
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so that I could put my screen recordings behind it
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and have it look like it looks on the phone,
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because the raw screen recording or screenshot
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will be rectangular and you'll miss the notch and you'll miss the curves in the corners.
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Kyle wants to know how does the steel feel in the hand compared to the aluminium? How do those two
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materials kind of stack up when you're holding them? Well the the the aluminium is um is like the
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I don't know it's it's less shiny right it's this it's less shiny and less tacky because it's um
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because it's that aluminum feel that Apple does so well, the stainless steel doesn't feel like that.
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It's like going from an aluminum Apple Watch to a stainless steel Apple Watch, basically.
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It is much smoother, and it's a little more grippy because it's so smooth that your fingers
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just kind of like stick on it a little bit more. - The stainless steel is more grippy, you're saying?
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- Yes, you're right, whereas the aluminum's got that kind of soft feel because it's been blasted by
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whatever they blasted with little beads or whatever to give it that feel so it's it's a different
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um it's it's a shiny instead of matte basically i think i would say in in terms of the feel but
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looks great how grippy is the glass back versus the jet black aluminium asks me here
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i'd say that they're comparable okay um i think i think this is any eight right i mean i think
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i think they're all pretty pretty comparable um the aluminum frames may be a little less grippy
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because they are that blasted aluminum,
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and so they're a little bit less tacky,
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whereas this thing is the stainless,
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is more like the grippiness of the glass.
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So it's got more in common with that.
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So that's, yeah, that's my take on it.
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- Paul has asked, "Is there a setting
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to allow the iPhone to unlock
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and go straight to the home screen
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rather than having to swipe up on the lock screen?"
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- So I asked about this,
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And I think the answer is no,
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although I was kind of hoping that there was a,
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that there was a-
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- An accessibility setting?
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- An accessibility feature, but I don't think there is.
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- And you know, the reason Apple doesn't wanna do that
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is that Apple wants you to be able
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to look at your notifications.
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- And use that interface,
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'cause that's a useful interface too.
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Like app picking isn't the only thing you do
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when you pick up your phone.
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Sometimes you look at what your notifications are,
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and they built that notification interface
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to be pretty robust.
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So, and it's got widgets and all that stuff.
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And those widgets now, when you look at them,
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are unlocked, right?
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They, if you tap them, they will just,
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like notifications too,
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they'll just take you where you need to go,
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'cause you're looking at the phone,
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face ID's already unlocked the phone.
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So you look at a notification and tap it,
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and you don't get one of those,
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oh yeah, you need to put your fingerprint on the glass
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before we continue.
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Instead it just opens and moves along its way.
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So I haven't seen a place where you can get it to
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just jump to the home screen.
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I'm a little surprised by that, but there it is.
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- Andrew wants to know, in your experience,
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does Face ID work well outside and in bright rooms?
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Neil I. Patel at The Verge had issues with this himself.
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- I have used it more inside and in dark rooms
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than outside and bright rooms.
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I need to spend more time.
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I gotta go walk the dog.
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So I will try it and report back and we will see.
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Yeah, I would imagine that if you're backlit brightly
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by the sun or something like that,
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it might have a challenge even with the infrared
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of having you be kind of swamped.
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But I haven't experienced a touch or a face ID failure yet,
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but I have not.
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I've been doing a lot of stuff here at my desk
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and not out in the world,
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which I will be doing hopefully soon.
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Mr. Espresso asks, "Which screen is better for just reading text in something like Instapaper
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Is the OLED of the X or the LCD of the 8 Plus what's more comfortable?"
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- Mr. Espresso.
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Is this Federico?
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- No, actually.
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This is the best I could get from their Twitter account.
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- I like contrast, and the nice thing about the OLED is that the blacks are really black
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and the whites are really white, so you should be able to get a very contrasty thing.
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It's also much higher resolution, which means that the text should be clearer.
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It is OLED and not LCD and those are not exactly the same but my guess is they're both fine.
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They're both great.
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I'm not sure one is going to be better than the other.
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The OLED might be better but it might not matter.
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I've read things on both of them.
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They both seem great.
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And finally Matt asked "I have a 5S so any upgrade is going to be a big for me.
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What features should push me towards the 10 instead of the 8+?"
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8 Plus, okay, that makes a difference
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'cause I was gonna say dual camera, but that's not it.
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So what features should push you toward the 10?
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The screen being bigger, big high resolution screen,
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the 8 Plus has a nice big screen too,
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but this is a nicer screen.
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And Face ID, sort of like going,
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not having to worry about it at all
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and just it locks when it sees you.
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but you know as we wrap this episode up it's worth saying this is a $999 US
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dollar phone. This is a pricey phone. My review is that you know
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tomorrow's iPhone today. This is what they're doing. We theorized about it when
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the rumors about this phone were out there earlier this year and this is the
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case. You're buying the cutting-edge first generation of a whole new
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way of thinking about the iPhone and you're going to pay a premium for it. And
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And if things like Face ID and having the smaller device but still has the dual cameras
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and the OLED display, which is very, very nice, if those are like, "Well, those are
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nice but is it worth another $150?" if you start to have those questions, or I guess
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it's the A+ right? So it's not quite... There's still a gap there, right? Is it $150? I don't
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know what it is. But everybody's going to have to decide for themselves. The iPhone
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X is not a phone every person who has an iPhone should by default buy, right? I mean, like,
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you need to look at what it offers versus what the 8 and 8 Plus offer and make a decision
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about whether it's worth the extra money. And I will also say, as I said when I reviewed
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the iPhone 8, which I also—we didn't even talk about that—I wrote a review of the
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iPhone 8 last week, after all this time, because I spent time with it and I was thinking about
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it. And the short version of that review is, for a lot of people, like, the 8 is
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going to be a great update from the 6 or the 6s. It's going to be a great update
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and it's going to be really familiar. It's going to be the same shape, it's going to
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be the same iPhone. My wife has the has the 8 now and it's like, it's really
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great, it's fast, it's the size and shape and behavior that she expects
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from an iPhone. The iPhone X is not that, right? It's not quite the right size, it's
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not the right behavior, it's got a lot of new stuff in it. And so it's not for
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everyone. For our audience it's probably for a lot more than you'd expect and
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then you gotta look at the price because it's expensive and those features may
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not be worth it and over time those features will probably come down to the
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rest of the product line but that's the future. Today it's the high-end
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cutting-edge iPhone and so you have to decide yourself whether you want to
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be a part of that or if you want to save some money and get something that's got
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a lot of the same features, not all, but a lot of them, and is in a much more
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familiar package.
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Alright, that's it for us. Upgrade today. I wanted, just before we go, to have a little bit of follow-up.
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Just one quick thing on iPhone X bumper cases. So I mentioned that that's what
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I'm looking for. I want a bumper case for my iPhone X. And three
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listeners sent in three different cases to me. So, Rapscallion sent in a case by
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Incase called the frame, Will sent in the Rhino Shield crash guard and Kai sent in the
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dbrand grip. These are all bumper like cases that are coming for a couple of phones including
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the iPhone 10. The one that I want out of all of these is the Incase frame so I'm keeping
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my eye out for when that's going to be available for me here in the UK. That's the case that
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I want I think. It looks really nice. I know that Incase do good stuff and it's a bumper
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case which is exactly what I want. So it would be a shame to not see the stainless steel
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but that's probably what I'm gonna go with if I go for a case. I honestly hope
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that I won't want to have any case on it like I'm gonna feel comfortable in
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holding it. I am going to buy AppleCare+ because the screen replacements are so expensive.
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I was gonna mention that the the replacements for the screen and the
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glass and all of that on this are much more than on other iPhones. Much more to
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the point where even even me, even the guy who never buys AppleCare, I'm
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thinking I'll probably buy AppleCare for my for my X. Like because it's like
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- It's too much.
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- It's $279 for the screen, $549 for the back,
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out of warranty.
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I think this is because of the charging stuff.
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I think that's why it's so expensive.
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So yeah, Stephen Hackett did a good kind of,
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he put some charts together on Fido.
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- So I'm gonna get it.
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- He sold a lot of Apple Cares with that story.
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- I bet he did, he should have gotten affiliate for that.
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That's why I'm buying it, 'cause of those charts.
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All right, so thank you so much for listening
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to this week's episode of Upgrade.
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we hope that you've enjoyed it. We're going to be continuing our iPhone X coverage next
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week as we will both have had time to spend with the devices hopefully knock on wood that
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I will get one we'll see we'll see who knows nobody knows and if you want to get involved
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with the show there's a couple of ways you can do that you can follow me and Jason on
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Twitter Jason is @jsnewjsn ellm @imike you can send in questions for the show we take
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#SnellTalkQuestions to open the show and #AskUpgradeQuestions to close the show. Ask Upgrade are serious questions,
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SnellTalk are a little bit more entertaining for us to get things started every single
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week so we jump straight into the action. Jason writes over at SixColors.com where you
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can go and read his review, which you should, and I'm sure Jason you're going to have more
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coverage of the iPhone X over the next couple of days I would expect.
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I guess. Your guess is a good mind. It's unknown what you're going to say, right, because you've
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written the review but I'm sure there'll be things that you all want to talk about
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maybe there's going to be some apps that come out sure you should go stay always
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stuck to six colors for the latest news because it's a great website that Jason
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puts together I want to thank Blue Apron, Bonfell and Encapsular for their
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support of this week's episode and most of all I want to thank you for listening
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if this is the first time you've listened to Upgrade please subscribe to
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the show if you enjoy it this is we're as good as this every week if you think
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that and if you haven't enjoyed it then you're probably still not listening but
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But until next time, Mr. Jason Snell, say goodbye.
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Bye everybody.
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