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00:00:08 ◼   ► From Relay FM, this is Upgrade Episode 165, the iPhone X Review.

00:00:14 ◼   ► Today's show is brought to you by Blue Apron, Bombfell, and Encapsula.

00:00:18 ◼   ► My name is Myke Hurley.

00:00:20 ◼   ► I am joined by Mr. Jason Snell.

00:00:22 ◼   ► Hello, Jason Snell.

00:00:23 ◼   ► Hello, Myke Hurley. How are you?

00:00:25 ◼   ► I'm very well, but literally nobody cares about that today because we have a huge show.

00:00:28 ◼   ► but I'm going to start with an iPhone 10 related #snowtalk question which was sent in a long

00:00:33 ◼   ► time ago but I've waited for today. This comes from Frank. Frank wants to know which an emoji

00:00:38 ◼   ► Jason is your favourite?

00:00:42 ◼   ► I gotta go with the monkey. I think you've got to. Because the monkey is my favourite.

00:00:47 ◼   ► I mean, first off, monkeys in general are kind of my favourite and the monkey emoji

00:00:52 ◼   ► is one that I really like and I enjoy that monkey. There are a lot of good emojis. I

00:00:58 ◼   ► say this, I think some of the animoji are more expressive than others, like I really

00:01:04 ◼   ► like the robot, but it's a robot, what can they do with it? Whereas like the fox is super

00:01:11 ◼   ► expressive.

00:01:12 ◼   ► The fox is so cute.

00:01:13 ◼   ► Right, and I mentioned this in the review, but one of the things that I think the most

00:01:18 ◼   ► impressive thing about animoji is not the face tracking, I think it is the character

00:01:22 ◼   ► animations that happen, like there is a lot of personality that was put into those animations,

00:01:27 ◼   ► They do some amazing things, interpreting certain facial features as other features

00:01:32 ◼   ► mapped to like, like the big ears on the top of the fox.

00:01:36 ◼   ► And they do things when you like change your forehead and it's, it's crazy.

00:01:40 ◼   ► So so yeah, I say I like the monkey because it's a monkey, but the, I think over time

00:01:48 ◼   ► we may come to appreciate certain animoji as having a kind of amazing animation in them

00:01:54 ◼   ► that makes, gives them even more personality.

00:01:56 ◼   ► But yeah, it's totally the monkey.

00:01:59 ◼   ► Which monkey did I use in my video?

00:02:01 ◼   ► Or which animoji did I use in my video?

00:02:03 ◼   ► The monkey, of course.

00:02:04 ◼   ► It goes without saying, really.

00:02:06 ◼   ► I have yet to see anybody, well this is mostly you so you need to rectify this at some point,

00:02:11 ◼   ► to send me the unicorn, because I think the unicorn is going to be what I end up going

00:02:16 ◼   ► with.

00:02:17 ◼   ► But I haven't seen a unicorn yet.

00:02:19 ◼   ► Nobody sent me a unicorn.

00:02:20 ◼   ► So we are of course, thank you Frank by the way for sending in that #SNELTalk question.

00:02:24 ◼   ► If you want to open the show of a question to Jason,

00:02:27 ◼   ► just send a tweet with the hashtag SnailTalkIn

00:02:29 ◼   ► and it will open a future episode of the show.

00:02:32 ◼   ► Of course, we are talking completely

00:02:34 ◼   ► about the iPhone 10 today,

00:02:36 ◼   ► because Jason has a review that he has published

00:02:39 ◼   ► and we're gonna be going through

00:02:40 ◼   ► and kind of filling in some of the gaps

00:02:42 ◼   ► and getting some more color,

00:02:43 ◼   ► maybe a seventh color to round out everything

00:02:47 ◼   ► about the iPhone 10.

00:02:48 ◼   ► But I guess we should--

00:02:49 ◼   ► - It's all infrared.

00:02:50 ◼   ► It's all infrared.

00:02:51 ◼   ► The color is infrared.

00:02:53 ◼   ► - It's a hidden wave station.

00:02:53 ◼   ► But we should start at the beginning and we should start at the point when you picked

00:02:57 ◼   ► up your iPhone.

00:02:58 ◼   ► So I assume you went back to the spaceship.

00:03:02 ◼   ► I did not.

00:03:03 ◼   ► I went to Infinite Loop.

00:03:04 ◼   ► I just went to the briefing center in Infinite Loop.

00:03:06 ◼   ► I think they're prepping the visitor center to open.

00:03:10 ◼   ► So maybe they can't just camp out in the visitor center again.

00:03:12 ◼   ► And my impression is that there are not a lot of people in at the spaceship yet.

00:03:16 ◼   ► I will say though, a lot of people, there's a conspiracy theory that the reason we didn't

00:03:20 ◼   ► record the show on Monday was because of this.

00:03:23 ◼   ► And it's not true, I went to a wedding in Rhode Island on Sunday. Our friend and colleague

00:03:28 ◼   ► Serenity Caldwell got married.

00:03:29 ◼   ► Congratulations, Serenity.

00:03:30 ◼   ► Yeah, absolutely. And so I came back very early Monday morning, that was always the

00:03:35 ◼   ► plan, I made my reservations a whole long time ago, and I was going to be in the air

00:03:38 ◼   ► when we did this, and I just said, "Let's just do it Tuesday." And you're like, "All

00:03:41 ◼   ► right, let's do it Tuesday." Not a problem. And then I got a call from Apple saying, "Would

00:03:44 ◼   ► you like to come down Monday afternoon?" So I literally just got to the airport and drove

00:03:49 ◼   ► south instead of north and went to Apple.

00:03:52 ◼   ► But as we're coming in to San Francisco Airport,

00:03:55 ◼   ► I opened the shade on the window

00:03:58 ◼   ► and between the fog and the clouds and stuff,

00:04:00 ◼   ► I was looking to try to see where we were in the Bay Area,

00:04:04 ◼   ► like playing that game of like, can you spot where you are?

00:04:07 ◼   ► And it was, you know, a lot of buildings and some freeways.

00:04:09 ◼   ► I'm like, what am I looking at?

00:04:10 ◼   ► Is this the East Bay?

00:04:11 ◼   ► We usually come down over the East Bay

00:04:13 ◼   ► and then across the Bay and then land in San Francisco.

00:04:15 ◼   ► And I was like, I'm not quite sure where this is.

00:04:17 ◼   ► And then you know what I saw, Myke?

00:04:19 ◼   ► I saw a giant ring building.

00:04:22 ◼   ► And I thought, "Oh, I know where we are."

00:04:24 ◼   ► (both laughing)

00:04:25 ◼   ► - And you were instantly reminded

00:04:26 ◼   ► that you had to get to work.

00:04:28 ◼   ► - Yeah, so I flew above the spaceship,

00:04:30 ◼   ► but then I drove to Infinite Loop and got a briefing.

00:04:33 ◼   ► And then I came home and then I put together a review

00:04:36 ◼   ► and went to bed at 3 a.m.

00:04:38 ◼   ► 'cause that was when the embargo was.

00:04:40 ◼   ► - So you have had your iPhone for 24 hours at this point,

00:04:43 ◼   ► right? - Oh, it's less than that.

00:04:45 ◼   ► It's, it's, it's, I got it at like one 30 or two in the afternoon and it's,

00:04:50 ◼   ► as we record this, it's not yet 10 in the morning.

00:04:52 ◼   ► So, um, so yeah, it's more like 20, 18 to 20 hours ago.

00:04:56 ◼   ► I got the, I took, took the iPhone 10 into my heart and also put it in my pocket.

00:05:02 ◼   ► Yes.

00:05:02 ◼   ► This is a new direction from Apple.

00:05:04 ◼   ► It seems this time that I think they're focusing on getting these smaller

00:05:08 ◼   ► reviews out first and then maybe pushing out for content later.

00:05:11 ◼   ► We'll see if this is something that sticks, but they definitely

00:05:13 ◼   ► made a change this time.

00:05:14 ◼   ► - It's unusual, the part about this that's,

00:05:17 ◼   ► they always choose interesting outlets from time to time,

00:05:20 ◼   ► that just happens that they choose,

00:05:22 ◼   ► they try to push it outside the usual.

00:05:24 ◼   ► They've done that for a while now.

00:05:26 ◼   ► I'd say what the big difference was this time is,

00:05:28 ◼   ► I can't remember the last time they had a universal embargo

00:05:32 ◼   ► with different hardware procurement times.

00:05:38 ◼   ► I mean, that's the thing is I can't remember the last time

00:05:41 ◼   ► there was an embargo that everybody followed,

00:05:44 ◼   ► but some people had it for a day,

00:05:46 ◼   ► some people had it for a week.

00:05:47 ◼   ► That's a little unusual.

00:05:48 ◼   ► Usually the people get it well in advance,

00:05:50 ◼   ► their embargo drops,

00:05:51 ◼   ► and then everybody else just sort of gets handed a unit

00:05:54 ◼   ► and says, "Write about it whenever."

00:05:56 ◼   ► And they didn't do that this time,

00:05:57 ◼   ► which is a little bit different,

00:05:58 ◼   ► but they're trying different stuff.

00:05:59 ◼   ► So I was very happy to have the opportunity

00:06:01 ◼   ► to be under embargo.

00:06:02 ◼   ► It's been a while since I did an embargoed iPhone review.

00:06:05 ◼   ► I think it's been since three years ago

00:06:07 ◼   ► when the 6 came out, I had an embargoed review,

00:06:10 ◼   ► which was right on the cusp of me leaving Mac world

00:06:12 ◼   ► and doing six colors.

00:06:13 ◼   ► I actually wrote on Six Colors. That was the impetus for launching Six Colors when I did,

00:06:17 ◼   ► instead of giving myself a few weeks off from being an internet personality, was that I

00:06:22 ◼   ► had that review and we talked about it on upgraded episode one.

00:06:25 ◼   ► Oh yeah, episode one was an embargoed iPhone review. I totally forgot about that.

00:06:29 ◼   ► But I also wrote about it for Macworld because it was originally supposed to be for Macworld,

00:06:33 ◼   ► so we kind of made a deal where I wrote some stuff for them and some stuff for Six Colors

00:06:36 ◼   ► and we talked about it on upgrade. So it's been three years since I had one of these,

00:06:41 ◼   ► So I wanted to make the most of it even though I didn't I had a limited amount of time.

00:06:45 ◼   ► For what you're able to say was there anything interesting that came out of the briefing?

00:06:49 ◼   ► Was there any kind of mention of the pre-order's demand?

00:06:53 ◼   ► Was there anything specific that Apple wanted to go over with you or was it pretty standard

00:06:56 ◼   ► fare?

00:06:57 ◼   ► It's a product briefing so they're basically focusing on the product.

00:07:00 ◼   ► It's a lot of stuff you know I was I was actually there with somebody from broadcast journalism

00:07:04 ◼   ► and I it's always a reminder that one of the reasons they go over all the features that

00:07:09 ◼   ► mentioned at the keynote is because people who don't do this as their primary

00:07:12 ◼   ► job but it's just one of many many things they cover they need the

00:07:16 ◼   ► refresher so there's a lot of coverage of things that we already know and then

00:07:21 ◼   ► one of the nice things about the product briefings is that they have details and

00:07:24 ◼   ► they know that we want little tidbits so I got some tidbits about like details

00:07:29 ◼   ► about how about the inference sensor and how the camera differs from the eight

00:07:32 ◼   ► and how what was it some of the gestures like I didn't know that that reach

00:07:38 ◼   ► ability still exists, but it does, and I actually turned that on for my iPhone 10,

00:07:43 ◼   ► and that was something that the person in the briefing room told me. So, yeah, that's

00:07:48 ◼   ► the nice thing about the briefing. Apple's one of these companies, it's not like our

00:07:51 ◼   ► friend Andrzej Tomić talks about how in Slovenia he'll review phones and he literally gets

00:07:57 ◼   ► a paper sack full of phones, and they said, "Go review these." And with Apple, it's very

00:08:03 ◼   ► much like Apple doesn't want to just give you the product, they don't want to just FedEx

00:08:05 ◼   ► it to your house, they want you to come to them and sit in a room and have them tell

00:08:10 ◼   ► their story to you. And you can then do whatever you want, but they want the opportunity to

00:08:15 ◼   ► set the story. They always want to do that. That was, I remember at one point at Macworld,

00:08:20 ◼   ► we had like a handshake agreement with Apple that was basically like, we're going to give

00:08:25 ◼   ► them the opportunity to give us a product briefing because there were a couple of products

00:08:29 ◼   ► where they didn't brief us and, or they wanted to brief us late. And, you know, we just ran

00:08:35 ◼   ► out and bought the product and wrote a review really fast and that really frustrated them.

00:08:38 ◼   ► And we're like, guys, we got to review the product. And so we sort of made a deal where

00:08:42 ◼   ► we were going to give them the opportunity to give us a briefing and sort of in exchange,

00:08:46 ◼   ► they were going to get us the products sooner. And that was the thing we did. But they have,

00:08:50 ◼   ► that's a cultural thing with Apple PR to this day, which is they want to, they want to give

00:08:54 ◼   ► you that. They want to set the stage. They want to, they want to make sure you hear their

00:08:58 ◼   ► side of it before you go off and do their review. And so that's, that's a big part of

00:09:02 ◼   ► the product briefing process.

00:09:03 ◼   ► We should probably just start talking about the phone, right?

00:09:05 ◼   ► I think so. I think we've done our pre-phone theatrics are now done.

00:09:10 ◼   ► So I have a bunch of different sections that I want to talk to you about. And I guess the

00:09:14 ◼   ► first one is kind of the physical size of the phone. Because this is a new physical

00:09:20 ◼   ► size as it sits kind of in scale between the 8 and the 8 Plus. So I kind of first off wanted

00:09:28 ◼   ► to know how it feels in the hand. What is the width like? What is the height like? How

00:09:32 ◼   ► How does it feel to hold and use this phone as compared to the 8 and the 8 Plus which

00:09:38 ◼   ► you just reviewed?

00:09:40 ◼   ► It's… it is a slightly wider iPhone 8, basically.

00:09:49 ◼   ► It is, if you were to hold it, just like a blind test, if you just sat in a chair with

00:09:55 ◼   ► your eyes closed and somebody put a phone in your hand, you would say this is… and

00:09:59 ◼   ► you didn't know the existence of the iPhone X, you would say it's an iPhone 7 or 8,

00:10:02 ◼   ► right, you would say, or six, it is, because it's only, what is it, like a couple of millimeters?

00:10:09 ◼   ► I had somebody say, "Hey, thanks for the metric," but it's like fractions of inches are so ridiculous

00:10:13 ◼   ► that I find millimeters actually, even as an awful American, I prefer the millimeters

00:10:19 ◼   ► to say it's three and a half millimeters wider, which is nothing, right? It's 0.14 inch, which

00:10:26 ◼   ► is totally meaningless to me, which is why I say it in millimeters. So it's basically

00:10:31 ◼   ► as wide as the iPhone, you know, small size iPhone. It's taller, but it's not wider.

00:10:38 ◼   ► So, and for me, my challenge with the iPhone Plus models was always like, it was, I would

00:10:44 ◼   ► have to expand my hand so much to get around the phone. I never felt like I had a really

00:10:47 ◼   ► great grip on it. And then at that point, my thumb, because my hand was, you know, trying

00:10:53 ◼   ► desperately to hold onto it, my thumb had very little movement. So, one-handed use of

00:10:58 ◼   ► the phone was really limited, which was always my frustration. That's not an issue. The width

00:11:03 ◼   ► is not an issue with the X. If you pay attention, you'll notice it's a little bit wider, but

00:11:10 ◼   ► it's very little bit. Just to put it in perspective, the Plus is more than 7mm wider than the X.

00:11:18 ◼   ► So it's 3.5 wider than the 8, but 7 narrower than the 8 Plus. So it's definitely on the

00:11:27 ◼   ► side of the smaller phone.

00:11:28 ◼   ► Yeah, definitely.

00:11:29 ◼   ► It's definitely urgent towards that.

00:11:30 ◼   ► But, so what about the height though?

00:11:32 ◼   ► Like how easy is it for you to go up and activate notification center?

00:11:37 ◼   ► Is this something that you are finding difficult?

00:11:40 ◼   ► Is it more or less difficult than the Plus models?

00:11:43 ◼   ► How is that feeling for you in a usability standpoint?

00:11:46 ◼   ► Well it's less difficult than the Plus models, but it is more difficult.

00:11:49 ◼   ► And this is one of the things that I struggled with yesterday is I realized that I am, I

00:11:55 ◼   ► do a lot of my iPhone stuff with one hand where I am sort of flicking around on the

00:12:00 ◼   ► screen with my thumb and that's one of the reasons why I like the smaller phone because

00:12:03 ◼   ► I can reach most places. I can barely reach the top of the phone with my thumb on the

00:12:09 ◼   ► 7 and the 8. On the 10, I can't. It's like a whole row of the home screen that I cannot

00:12:18 ◼   ► reach. In fact, to the point where I've already decided I'm probably going to need to re-layout

00:12:24 ◼   ► my home screen to push, to put, first off, to leave the,

00:12:29 ◼   ► to fill the empty row at the bottom

00:12:32 ◼   ► and put the most important apps toward the bottom

00:12:36 ◼   ► because if I want quick access to the phone app,

00:12:39 ◼   ► which is in the top row, forget it.

00:12:41 ◼   ► Like I will need to either readjust my grip

00:12:44 ◼   ► or I will need to call, send for the other hand

00:12:48 ◼   ► to stop whatever it's doing and get in a car

00:12:52 ◼   ► and drive over to where the other hand is

00:12:54 ◼   ► and tap something on the phone,

00:12:55 ◼   ► which again, it's not a problem.

00:12:57 ◼   ► - Welcome to my three years ago, Jason.

00:12:59 ◼   ► - Yeah, right?

00:13:00 ◼   ► - This is what everybody did when they got plus models,

00:13:02 ◼   ► right, you rearrange your home screen a little bit

00:13:04 ◼   ► to fit that a bit better.

00:13:07 ◼   ► - 'Cause it's not just that the 10 is taller, right?

00:13:08 ◼   ► The 10 is a little bit taller, but the 10 screen,

00:13:11 ◼   ► if you imagine the 10's a little bit taller than the eight,

00:13:15 ◼   ► but the screen goes all the way to the top.

00:13:17 ◼   ► So all that area that you've got the bezel

00:13:19 ◼   ► in the eight or the seven or the six,

00:13:24 ◼   ► That's screen too, so it's that much more tall.

00:13:27 ◼   ► And so reaching all the way up there is an issue,

00:13:29 ◼   ► which is why I mentioned reachability earlier.

00:13:31 ◼   ► You can turn on an accessibility,

00:13:33 ◼   ► reachability, which now that there's no home button,

00:13:35 ◼   ► it is one of a litany of things

00:13:36 ◼   ► that they've had to remap to a new gesture.

00:13:38 ◼   ► In this case, they've got this sort of gestural area

00:13:41 ◼   ► down at the bottom of the screen

00:13:42 ◼   ► where there's this white bar at the very bottom

00:13:44 ◼   ► that is your indicator to flip up to go to the home screen

00:13:47 ◼   ► or to unlock the phone if it's locked.

00:13:50 ◼   ► You can also, one of the gestures there,

00:13:52 ◼   ► if you turn it on, is you kind of like flip down in that area and reachability triggers

00:13:58 ◼   ► and it's like you're saying, "Come on down. Come on down, rest of the screen, I need you."

00:14:04 ◼   ► But it's also entirely possible that with a little bit of retraining of muscle memory,

00:14:08 ◼   ► I will start doing more of a, you know, hand shimmy kind of thing or I'll hold it a little

00:14:14 ◼   ► bit higher and stop using my pinky as like the maintainer of the kickstand that maintains

00:14:21 ◼   ► its place in my hand. There's, you know, you know, I may change my method of holding the

00:14:26 ◼   ► phone in order to optimize for this size. I don't know. But that was the first thing

00:14:31 ◼   ► that leapt out at me is one handing an iPhone at the top of the interface is not happening,

00:14:40 ◼   ► at least not yet. So reachability, using the second hand, moving things down on the screen,

00:14:45 ◼   ► all of that stuff is in play.

00:14:47 ◼   ► I would say I expect that you will end up finding a way to do it one-handed because

00:14:52 ◼   ► I remember going through all this stuff and I can activate all this stuff one-handed.

00:14:56 ◼   ► You just kind of adjust and contort your grip into different ways, right, which end up being,

00:15:00 ◼   ► oh, you hold your phone slightly differently because you want to reach more of the screen.

00:15:06 ◼   ► And that's always the challenge when you've got a product, not even just for a day, but

00:15:09 ◼   ► even if you've got a product for a week, is that's not living with it. Like, living with

00:15:13 ◼   ► it, over time you will adapt, like your muscle memory will adapt to the new thing. And a

00:15:20 ◼   ► new thing is always going to be frustrating at first. I got a new, this is a very brief

00:15:26 ◼   ► tangent, I got a new mechanical keyboard to try the other week, because I like mechanical

00:15:31 ◼   ► keyboards and this one's got, you know, my other keyboard is like missing lots of keys,

00:15:35 ◼   ► which I've mapped around, but it is a little bit weird. So I got one that's got more keys

00:15:38 ◼   ► in it. And I used it for like two or three days and I wanted to throw it across the room

00:15:43 ◼   ► because like it was in the wrong place and I wasn't sitting in the right place and it

00:15:46 ◼   ► made my hands uncomfortable and it made moving the trackpad uncomfortable, all of these things.

00:15:50 ◼   ► And I was like, you know what, it's changed, you got to deal with it. And I like, I stuck

00:15:54 ◼   ► with it and now it's fine. Like I got through that process and I probably, it didn't change,

00:16:01 ◼   ► right? It's still a hunk of plastic. I changed where I positioned my hands and where I positioned

00:16:06 ◼   ► my chair and I adapted until I found, even unconsciously, right, found a place that was

00:16:12 ◼   ► comfortable. And with a phone, I mean, what is more, um, where do ergonomics matter more

00:16:18 ◼   ► than something like holding a phone? Like your finger placement and, and the angle of

00:16:24 ◼   ► your wrist, like all of that is something that you may not think about it, but you have

00:16:27 ◼   ► a preferred style of doing it. And then you get a new phone that kind of changes it and

00:16:31 ◼   ► you got to adapt.

00:16:32 ◼   ► What are your thoughts on the colors?

00:16:34 ◼   ► So I'm a, as you know, I am a big proponent

00:16:37 ◼   ► of the Darth Vader phone.

00:16:39 ◼   ► Like I loved the original black iPhone five

00:16:43 ◼   ► 'cause it was just like super black.

00:16:45 ◼   ► And then they made it lighter space gray later

00:16:47 ◼   ► but the first one was like super black.

00:16:49 ◼   ► I liked that I had the jet black seven, loved it.

00:16:52 ◼   ► So my order that I placed,

00:16:56 ◼   ► which since I was on the East coast,

00:16:57 ◼   ► I got to experience the 3 a.m. Apple product order.

00:17:01 ◼   ► That was fun.

00:17:02 ◼   ► - That was the 3 a.m.s for you at the moment.

00:17:03 ◼   ► - Oh yeah, I've gotten up at 3 a.m.

00:17:06 ◼   ► Yeah, I've been awake at 3 a.m. too many times lately.

00:17:09 ◼   ► That, I got the black one.

00:17:13 ◼   ► I got the space gray one, which is pretty much black.

00:17:16 ◼   ► And that one, so the stainless steel ring

00:17:18 ◼   ► around the iPhone 10, which Apple will tell you

00:17:21 ◼   ► is a special atomic process to make the space gray

00:17:25 ◼   ► match the glass back, but it looks great.

00:17:29 ◼   ► Like with the jet black, it basically makes the whole thing

00:17:33 ◼   ► like just a black phone, unless the screen is on,

00:17:36 ◼   ► it's just like all black phone with a little Apple logo.

00:17:40 ◼   ► And they'll also tell you that the stainless steel

00:17:43 ◼   ► is a surgical grade in case you need to perform surgery

00:17:48 ◼   ► with the ring around your iPhone, you could do that.

00:17:51 ◼   ► And that it's a proprietary Apple metal.

00:17:56 ◼   ► Like the particular mix to make this particular

00:17:59 ◼   ► stainless steel is something that Apple

00:18:00 ◼   ► has formulated themselves.

00:18:02 ◼   ► Okay, fair enough.

00:18:04 ◼   ► What I didn't expect is that I really like the silver one.

00:18:09 ◼   ► So the black one is how much blacker could it be?

00:18:12 ◼   ► None more black, it's a black phone, it's great.

00:18:15 ◼   ► Darth Vader phone, I'm all for it.

00:18:17 ◼   ► The silver phone though, way,

00:18:19 ◼   ► I like way more than I like the silver phones lately.

00:18:21 ◼   ► And there's two reasons.

00:18:22 ◼   ► One is the bezel is black.

00:18:25 ◼   ► They've made no attempt to have like some white showing

00:18:28 ◼   ► in the front, which they've done with, you know,

00:18:30 ◼   ► all the silver phones lately have been white phones

00:18:32 ◼   ► with silver and I don't like white phones.

00:18:34 ◼   ► I don't like it.

00:18:35 ◼   ► Sorry, Casey Liss.

00:18:36 ◼   ► I don't like white phones.

00:18:39 ◼   ► I don't like how the fact that most of the time

00:18:41 ◼   ► the screen is dark and then there's a white ring around it.

00:18:43 ◼   ► It like highlights where your screen space is.

00:18:46 ◼   ► I really don't like it.

00:18:46 ◼   ► I prefer the illusion that when the phone is off,

00:18:49 ◼   ► it's just a perfectly featureless

00:18:52 ◼   ► or almost featureless slab, right?

00:18:54 ◼   ► So that's what they've done with this one.

00:18:56 ◼   ► The back is white and it's pretty.

00:18:59 ◼   ► There's, even though it's glass, like the iPhone 8,

00:19:03 ◼   ► there's an extra layer and they have like eight different

00:19:06 ◼   ► layers of coating on this thing,

00:19:07 ◼   ► including like the oleophobic coating

00:19:09 ◼   ► and it's the reinforced glass.

00:19:11 ◼   ► And it's got a lot of things that are like the 8.

00:19:12 ◼   ► There is one apparently like layer that's different

00:19:15 ◼   ► that makes it a little more kind of like shimmery,

00:19:17 ◼   ► shimmery looking and it's nice looking.

00:19:21 ◼   ► And so you've got the Apple logo is in silver,

00:19:23 ◼   ► the word iPhone is in silver.

00:19:25 ◼   ► And then the rest of it, you know, camera area,

00:19:28 ◼   ► camera oval is black and then the whole rest of it is white,

00:19:33 ◼   ► kind of a nice reflective silvery white.

00:19:35 ◼   ► That's nice and so if you want that white phone back,

00:19:38 ◼   ► you can get it.

00:19:39 ◼   ► But to me, the star of this is the stainless steel

00:19:42 ◼   ► on the silver phone is,

00:19:45 ◼   ► 'cause it's not like a silver phone,

00:19:47 ◼   ► it's a stainless steel phone,

00:19:48 ◼   ► it's a shiny stainless steel ring.

00:19:51 ◼   ► So if you think about like the stainless steel Apple Watch,

00:19:54 ◼   ► it's that kind of thing.

00:19:55 ◼   ► It's a really noticeably bright, shiny, pretty stainless steel around the ring.

00:20:03 ◼   ► Surgical of course.

00:20:05 ◼   ► I don't know how I missed this.

00:20:07 ◼   ► I thought that both phones had the stainless steel, stainless steel.

00:20:12 ◼   ► I somehow missed.

00:20:14 ◼   ► I think it's because the photos show it always looks reflective.

00:20:17 ◼   ► I didn't know that the space grey phone had a kind of grey black treating treatment to

00:20:25 ◼   ► the steel. So I mean I placed my order for the silver one because I think it's the one

00:20:30 ◼   ► that I would like the most and I'm really excited about that because whilst I don't

00:20:35 ◼   ► like the stainless steel Apple watch look for me, all of the pictures that I've seen

00:20:40 ◼   ► of the iPhone with the shiny stainless steel bat around it, I really love it mostly because

00:20:45 ◼   ► because it makes me think of the older iPhones that I love so much.

00:20:49 ◼   ► So I'm really pleased that it's more shiny.

00:20:51 ◼   ► Back of the original iPod, too, is something that struck me about it, right?

00:20:54 ◼   ► It's this super shiny, polished, silvery stainless steel.

00:20:59 ◼   ► It looks great.

00:21:00 ◼   ► And I'm saying that as somebody who never chooses the silver phone, always chooses the

00:21:04 ◼   ► space gray phone, the silver one looks great.

00:21:07 ◼   ► I think the black one looks great, too, but I really like this look as the other look.

00:21:14 ◼   ► So that's the one you have, the one Apple gave you was the silver one?

00:21:18 ◼   ► So yeah, that's my review unit is silver and then my one that I bought that's coming Friday

00:21:23 ◼   ► because that did work at 3am.

00:21:26 ◼   ► I did get one that is supposed to be delivered on Friday.

00:21:30 ◼   ► Well lucky, there's a whole other show that's like the upgrade that never happened basically

00:21:35 ◼   ► that is talking about iPhone orders where we missed it, upgrade 164 and a half.

00:21:41 ◼   ► But the short version of the story is that, as some people have noted, they're not selling

00:21:45 ◼   ► this as a SIM-free, like, unlocked phone right now, as they often do with new Apple iPhones.

00:21:50 ◼   ► They want you to tie it to the carrier, which frustrates me, because if I pay full price,

00:21:53 ◼   ► I just don't want to even bother with the carrier.

00:21:56 ◼   ► So at 3 a.m., they're like, "Put in your phone number and the last four digits of the social

00:22:00 ◼   ► security number associated with your AT&T account."

00:22:03 ◼   ► Oh, my God.

00:22:04 ◼   ► So I look that up, paste it in.

00:22:06 ◼   ► I'm trying to do this all quickly.

00:22:08 ◼   ► And to Apple's credit, somebody at Apple said, "You know, I don't want our customers to get

00:22:15 ◼   ► screwed by things we can't control, like the carrier systems dying. So let's build in a

00:22:21 ◼   ► contingency where if we can't contact the carrier, we're just going to hold that person's

00:22:25 ◼   ► place in the reservation line. We're going to give them a phone as if they've already

00:22:30 ◼   ► reserved it. And then we're going to send them an email saying, and post on the web

00:22:35 ◼   ► form when you try to buy the phone, "We can't talk to your carrier right now. We will contact

00:22:40 ◼   ► you. Your place has been saved." That's what happened to me, is they're like, "Look, essentially,

00:22:44 ◼   ► look, AT&T has gone away. We don't know when they're coming back. Your order is secure.

00:22:51 ◼   ► Go to bed. We'll email you tomorrow." And the next afternoon, I got an email from Apple

00:22:55 ◼   ► saying, "Great. You have 24 hours to click through and complete your order because we

00:23:00 ◼   ► have now reestablished diplomatic relations with AT&T

00:23:05 ◼   ► and it worked.

00:23:06 ◼   ► And then when that was all done, it said,

00:23:08 ◼   ► "Great, you'll get a Friday."

00:23:09 ◼   ► So that was actually pretty great on Apple's part

00:23:11 ◼   ► that they identified the weak link in the chain,

00:23:15 ◼   ► which is the carriers and worked around them.

00:23:18 ◼   ► So in the end, I'll get the black phone on Friday

00:23:21 ◼   ► and that's the real phone that I will keep in my pocket

00:23:24 ◼   ► and this will go back to Apple.

00:23:25 ◼   ► - Lucky you.

00:23:26 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's great.

00:23:29 ◼   ► I do not have a phone for delivery on Friday.

00:23:31 ◼   ► - I'm sorry.

00:23:32 ◼   ► - We'll see. - Come on over.

00:23:33 ◼   ► - I have options.

00:23:34 ◼   ► None of them are from Apple right now.

00:23:36 ◼   ► I have some options.

00:23:37 ◼   ► I'm investigating some areas

00:23:39 ◼   ► into how I'm gonna procure a phone on Friday.

00:23:41 ◼   ► Otherwise-- - Just stop on by.

00:23:42 ◼   ► - Yeah, I'll just pop over.

00:23:44 ◼   ► I'll just pop over.

00:23:44 ◼   ► - Pop over to the house, yeah.

00:23:46 ◼   ► - All right, there's so much more.

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00:25:06 ◼   ► So let's talk about the screen.

00:25:07 ◼   ► Now the iPhone X has an OLED screen, it's the first one we've ever had on an iPhone.

00:25:11 ◼   ► How does this compare to the LCD screen?

00:25:15 ◼   ► Well I spent some time with Wonder Woman, she's great, she says hi by the way.

00:25:21 ◼   ► sounds like a great afternoon. No wonder you're so busy.

00:25:25 ◼   ► - Unfortunately I had to leave

00:25:26 ◼   ► 'cause I had a review to write.

00:25:28 ◼   ► I played Wonder Woman on my iPhone 8 and on the 10

00:25:34 ◼   ► and just sort of in parallel and was watching them

00:25:39 ◼   ► and comparing them and doing direct comparison.

00:25:41 ◼   ► And yeah, I mean, it's what everybody says.

00:25:44 ◼   ► It's what John Syracuse always talks about

00:25:47 ◼   ► when he talks about OLED screens, right?

00:25:49 ◼   ► Like the black levels are amazing.

00:25:53 ◼   ► And I don't wanna get too video nerdy about it,

00:25:57 ◼   ► but like I think anybody would notice the difference

00:26:00 ◼   ► because on a backlit LCD screen, everything is lit.

00:26:05 ◼   ► And so black, if you've ever had something

00:26:12 ◼   ► that was really dark or even like totally black on your TV,

00:26:16 ◼   ► your HDTV, and yet it's still glowed

00:26:18 ◼   ► and you had that moment of like,

00:26:20 ◼   ► how is it that this is supposed to be black?

00:26:21 ◼   ► And yet my whole living room is lit.

00:26:24 ◼   ► It's because even when the screen is black,

00:26:26 ◼   ► the backlight is back there.

00:26:28 ◼   ► And so you end up with this kind of like bright,

00:26:31 ◼   ► let's call it space gray.

00:26:32 ◼   ► Why not?

00:26:33 ◼   ► Let's call it that.

00:26:34 ◼   ► - Anything can be space gray.

00:26:36 ◼   ► - Any, literally anything, except space, Myke,

00:26:39 ◼   ► because space is black, not gray.

00:26:41 ◼   ► But anyway, the OLED screens don't do that.

00:26:44 ◼   ► The OLED screen, that's not how it works.

00:26:46 ◼   ► the it puts out light when there's light to be put out and otherwise it doesn't

00:26:50 ◼   ► and so looking at Wonder Woman I mean not only is it a high resolution screen

00:26:53 ◼   ► this is the highest resolution

00:26:55 ◼   ► screen I think that Apple has ever made in any product

00:26:59 ◼   ► and it's 458 pixels per inch

00:27:04 ◼   ► and that's you know theoretically that's beyond the level at which your

00:27:07 ◼   ► eyes can actually detect the details of the pixels but what it does mean it's a

00:27:11 ◼   ► full

00:27:11 ◼   ► 1080 HD image with the black levels. It supports HDR video, so the

00:27:17 ◼   ► dynamic range that's capable on the display is pretty

00:27:22 ◼   ► impressive, so it can display bright content with detail and dark

00:27:26 ◼   ► content with detail. And it looks really good. I mean, that's the bottom line is

00:27:31 ◼   ► even if you weren't measuring the black levels, it looks really good.

00:27:35 ◼   ► Now, one of the challenges with OLED is color shifting. I'm not great with

00:27:40 ◼   ► color. It does shift a little bit if you look at it from angles but it is super

00:27:47 ◼   ► subtle and not annoying in the way that even earlier LCD screens were

00:27:53 ◼   ► and especially not some of the other smartphone screens that have had some

00:27:58 ◼   ► serious color shifting problems when you watch it off angle. It's a good display

00:28:02 ◼   ► and it also doesn't seem to be aggressively, you know, like what I said in the

00:28:08 ◼   ► is like one of those TVs that set up at the store

00:28:12 ◼   ► to pop all the colors so that your head explodes

00:28:16 ◼   ► with the colors on the screen.

00:28:17 ◼   ► A lot of panels will get cranked up like that

00:28:21 ◼   ► to impress you with the color.

00:28:22 ◼   ► And that's not, Apple wants to be accurate with the color

00:28:25 ◼   ► and they did a pretty good job.

00:28:26 ◼   ► So it looks great.

00:28:27 ◼   ► It is as advertised a really nice looking display.

00:28:32 ◼   ► Really nice.

00:28:33 ◼   ► - And remind me, does this phone have True Tone in it?

00:28:35 ◼   ► - Yeah, oh yeah. - Oh man.

00:28:37 ◼   ► It's just like the 8, it's got the sensor and it's doing the on the fly True Tone adjustment.

00:28:43 ◼   ► I cannot wait to see how my home screen looks.

00:28:46 ◼   ► That was the big thing for me with the iPads when they went to True Tone.

00:28:50 ◼   ► Everything just looked so much more rich.

00:28:51 ◼   ► There was a vividness to it which I really enjoyed, so I'm very much looking forward

00:28:56 ◼   ► to having that on my iPhone as well.

00:28:59 ◼   ► Now obviously the screen goes all the way to the edges and by going all the way to the

00:29:04 ◼   ► edges we get the notch.

00:29:06 ◼   ► This is the thing that everybody was up in arms about.

00:29:10 ◼   ► How is the notch gonna be?

00:29:11 ◼   ► What's the notch gonna be like?

00:29:12 ◼   ► So Jason, how is the notch?

00:29:14 ◼   ► - Well, I mean, we'll see how it progresses over time.

00:29:18 ◼   ► Different apps handle it in different ways.

00:29:21 ◼   ► Generally, the way that seems to be good to handle it

00:29:24 ◼   ► is that you kind of flow the background of your content

00:29:28 ◼   ► into those areas underneath the status information.

00:29:32 ◼   ► And you don't have any actual usable interface

00:29:36 ◼   ► that's tappable up there, you have it be just sort of like

00:29:38 ◼   ► part of the experience.

00:29:39 ◼   ► But the experience of using it is definitely like,

00:29:43 ◼   ► I don't look at the notch and think there is a thing

00:29:48 ◼   ► chewing into my screen.

00:29:50 ◼   ► I actually think about it more like,

00:29:53 ◼   ► I look at the edges around the notch and think,

00:29:56 ◼   ► the screen is so big that it is,

00:30:01 ◼   ► it's gonna flow all the way until it hits something

00:30:03 ◼   ► that can stop it.

00:30:04 ◼   ► And so it goes around the camera notch area

00:30:07 ◼   ► and otherwise it's like going completely

00:30:09 ◼   ► to the edge up there.

00:30:10 ◼   ► That's sort of how, if that makes any sense,

00:30:12 ◼   ► like that's how it feels to me is that this is not,

00:30:14 ◼   ► hey, we tried to do an all screen phone and stopped.

00:30:17 ◼   ► It's more like every place we could possibly put screen,

00:30:21 ◼   ► we did.

00:30:22 ◼   ► I think that's the message I get from this phone

00:30:24 ◼   ► is that Apple saying, you know,

00:30:25 ◼   ► we couldn't put it everywhere,

00:30:27 ◼   ► but we didn't stop it lower down

00:30:30 ◼   ► just because of the need for a camera housing.

00:30:33 ◼   ► we're gonna flow it all the way to the top.

00:30:35 ◼   ► And it has that effect of sort of like extending

00:30:37 ◼   ► the experience, extending your field of view,

00:30:41 ◼   ► even up where it should probably stop

00:30:45 ◼   ► because there's a camera up there, it just keeps on going.

00:30:48 ◼   ► - With the apps that you've been using,

00:30:50 ◼   ► how is the optimization?

00:30:52 ◼   ► - It's all over the place right now.

00:30:56 ◼   ► I've got some betas, some apps have been updated.

00:30:59 ◼   ► I have apps, let's see, there's a bunch of categories.

00:31:03 ◼   ► They're the apps that have not been updated.

00:31:05 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:31:05 ◼   ► - Where they're basically letterbox top and bottom.

00:31:08 ◼   ► - So it probably looks like a regular iPhone, right?

00:31:11 ◼   ► Like it's just the exact same screen size.

00:31:14 ◼   ► - Yeah, pretty much.

00:31:15 ◼   ► I mean, yeah, it just, all of a sudden

00:31:19 ◼   ► the phone's not as tall.

00:31:21 ◼   ► You've got kind of black areas top and bottom.

00:31:24 ◼   ► So that happens with ones that have not been updated.

00:31:26 ◼   ► - Just out of interest, because it's OLED,

00:31:28 ◼   ► does that look good?

00:31:29 ◼   ► Like, does it look like there isn't a screen there?

00:31:31 ◼   ► Like, does it look like it's just plastic?

00:31:34 ◼   ► Do you know what I mean?

00:31:35 ◼   ► Like, does it look like, or close to like the bezel?

00:31:38 ◼   ► 'Cause like, when I'm on my Apple Watch, right,

00:31:40 ◼   ► when I look at my Apple Watch, and that's, oh, that's green,

00:31:43 ◼   ► where it's not on, it just looks like there's nothing.

00:31:46 ◼   ► - The reason it doesn't is because you have the status bar

00:31:50 ◼   ► at the top, and you have the bright white line

00:31:54 ◼   ► that is your flip up here to go home, that's always there.

00:31:57 ◼   ► - That's a shame.

00:31:58 ◼   ► - Those remain.

00:32:00 ◼   ► So those are still there as cues.

00:32:02 ◼   ► And then the iPhone app screen like floats in the middle.

00:32:06 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:32:07 ◼   ► - So that's what it's doing.

00:32:08 ◼   ► It's trying to keep those things consistent

00:32:10 ◼   ► 'cause the status bar stays at the top

00:32:11 ◼   ► and the little line for the multitasking

00:32:15 ◼   ► and home essentially area stays there.

00:32:19 ◼   ► - Does that have an official name?

00:32:21 ◼   ► - If it does, I don't know what it is.

00:32:24 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:32:26 ◼   ► The what do you call it bar.

00:32:27 ◼   ► - The what you would call it.

00:32:28 ◼   ► That's what we'll just refer to.

00:32:29 ◼   ► - Exactly, that's what it is, the whatever.

00:32:32 ◼   ► Then so the other things I've seen is there are apps

00:32:35 ◼   ► that have been carefully considered and they,

00:32:40 ◼   ► they do the right thing.

00:32:42 ◼   ► Like I was looking at a Fantastical

00:32:45 ◼   ► and it's got the red calendar bar at the top of the screen

00:32:50 ◼   ► and on the iPhone 10, the red color just keeps extending

00:32:53 ◼   ► all the way up to the top through the status bar

00:32:57 ◼   ► and it looks good.

00:32:57 ◼   ► it's really a consistent look.

00:33:01 ◼   ► And then there's some apps and I'm not gonna name any names,

00:33:04 ◼   ► but there are some apps where they still have work to do

00:33:08 ◼   ► where like the color extends all the way to the top,

00:33:10 ◼   ► but then they're like navigational elements

00:33:13 ◼   ► at the bottom of the screen are all the way at the bottom,

00:33:16 ◼   ► which means that they're like going off the edges

00:33:18 ◼   ► of the curved edges and they're beneath

00:33:21 ◼   ► the multitasking area,

00:33:23 ◼   ► which means that you can't actually tap on them,

00:33:25 ◼   ► which is bad because you can't.

00:33:27 ◼   ► And those will be fixed, right?

00:33:29 ◼   ► But that's an example where like, there's a lot of work

00:33:32 ◼   ► and I'll reference, Marco Armentz talked about it on ATP

00:33:35 ◼   ► and he's talked about it on an under the radar,

00:33:37 ◼   ► but this is an update that requires active work

00:33:41 ◼   ► by developers.

00:33:42 ◼   ► Developers can't just phone it in with the iPhone 10.

00:33:45 ◼   ► Huh, phone, they need to put in some work.

00:33:48 ◼   ► This is not one of those things where it's like,

00:33:49 ◼   ► oh yeah, you recompile it, you change a couple of things

00:33:53 ◼   ► and then it all works.

00:33:53 ◼   ► Like, no, you need to think about like,

00:33:54 ◼   ► are you going to do with the top of the screen? What are you going to do with the bottom?"

00:33:59 ◼   ► And that's still going on. So even Apple's apps, I mean, they all support it, but even

00:34:04 ◼   ► there, there are those moments where I think, like, they've got, you know, sometimes they

00:34:10 ◼   ► do it better than other times and they're still figuring it out themselves.

00:34:14 ◼   ► Have you seen any apps that do more than just put color? Like, are there any apps that are

00:34:19 ◼   ► using this for information or anything like that? Or does it really just seem like it's

00:34:24 ◼   ► It's just the color that's on the top of the status bar is just stretched all the way to

00:34:28 ◼   ► the top.

00:34:31 ◼   ► That's basically it right now.

00:34:32 ◼   ► I imagine that that might change.

00:34:34 ◼   ► I'm not quite sure what they have.

00:34:36 ◼   ► The status bar is the status bar, right?

00:34:37 ◼   ► Unless they hide the status bar and put something up there, which some may, but instead it's

00:34:43 ◼   ► sort of like just giving you the sense that the status bar is part of the app interface

00:34:47 ◼   ► and extends to the top of the screen and then just getting out of the way of the bottom.

00:34:51 ◼   ► I think there may be some opportunities down at the bottom of the screen, especially on

00:34:56 ◼   ► the sides.

00:34:58 ◼   ► One of the things that Apple did with the keyboard is they actually, the keyboard sits

00:35:05 ◼   ► up a little bit.

00:35:08 ◼   ► There's like a gray area underneath the keyboard.

00:35:10 ◼   ► The keyboard isn't down at the bottom of the screen like it is on all other iPhones.

00:35:14 ◼   ► If you think about it, you can figure out why, which is all other iPhones have a gap.

00:35:19 ◼   ► the keyboard never sits at the bottom of the phone.

00:35:22 ◼   ► It sits with a gap between it

00:35:24 ◼   ► and the bottom of the phone, right?

00:35:25 ◼   ► And if you tried to hold a phone with two hands

00:35:29 ◼   ► and do thumb typing, you realize very quickly,

00:35:32 ◼   ► like thumb typing, where you have to tap all the way

00:35:35 ◼   ► at the bottom of the phone is kind of awkward.

00:35:38 ◼   ► - I would drop my phone, 100%.

00:35:40 ◼   ► - Yeah, you either drop your phone

00:35:41 ◼   ► or you like bend your thumbs way too far back.

00:35:44 ◼   ► - Like I'm holding it right now

00:35:45 ◼   ► as if I was typing on the bottom

00:35:46 ◼   ► and it's just not secure enough.

00:35:48 ◼   ► Right, so what they did is they put this kind of buffer area and then a keyboard. And that's

00:35:53 ◼   ► a bummer in the sense that the app space above is less than it would be. Like, you're giving

00:35:59 ◼   ► up some space in the app interface when you slide up the keyboard. But what they did do,

00:36:03 ◼   ► which I think is kind of clever, is they put the emoji/international keyboard button and

00:36:10 ◼   ► the microphone, you know, voice dictation button, they put those down in the left and

00:36:13 ◼   ► right corners of the display to the left and right of the multitasking area. And that means

00:36:19 ◼   ► that the like bottom row of the software keyboard has a little more spacious. There's a little

00:36:24 ◼   ► more room because there's two keys that are out of there. And I thought that was a clever

00:36:28 ◼   ► use of that space. And it made me wonder if other apps might, once they're up and running

00:36:35 ◼   ► on iPhone 10, might start to experiment with like, could we do things with these new spaces?

00:36:39 ◼   ► But I think, you know, phase one is literally make it not be in a letterbox, make sure that

00:36:45 ◼   ► their interface elements don't collide with the edges of the screen or slide under the

00:36:51 ◼   ► home area, all of those things, because that's like step one.

00:36:56 ◼   ► What I would like to see with that area is, you know, like on the iPad you have the persistent

00:37:01 ◼   ► buttons on the keyboard, like the copy and paste buttons.

00:37:04 ◼   ► I would like to see something like that there, because from the images that I've seen, it

00:37:08 ◼   ► just looks like you've kind of got the dictation on one side, the smiley face on the other,

00:37:11 ◼   ► and then just the gray area, you know, it would be nice to maybe see some stuff go in

00:37:14 ◼   ► there.

00:37:15 ◼   ► Yeah, the problem is that the gray area is also colliding with multitasking and swipe

00:37:21 ◼   ► up, so you've got to be careful there, but I do wonder about that. I actually, I think

00:37:26 ◼   ► it's ergonomics, I actually was wondering why they didn't put the autocorrect stuff

00:37:31 ◼   ► below, but I think the rationale there is that you want to see it above because you're

00:37:35 ◼   ► looking at your content, and so you want the content and the autocorrect to stay together.

00:37:39 ◼   ► Because you'd be covering the autocorrect options with your hands, most likely, right?

00:37:43 ◼   ► Like you wouldn't see them when you'd be obscured from view.

00:37:46 ◼   ► Right. So there's a lot of these things that obviously Apple has had more than a month

00:37:52 ◼   ► and a half to think about, and app developers have only had a month and a half at most to

00:37:56 ◼   ► think about. So I expect more to be done here, and then always, yeah, everybody's going to

00:38:01 ◼   ► look at how the Apple apps implemented all of this stuff and say, "All right, why did

00:38:05 ◼   ► they do that because there are lessons to be learned there. But, you know, when an app

00:38:10 ◼   ► fully, when I launch an app that's already been, because you don't really know, right?

00:38:14 ◼   ► Like you just, I just restored my phone from my backup and it downloaded apps from the

00:38:18 ◼   ► app store. I don't know which ones have been updated and which ones haven't. There are

00:38:21 ◼   ► a couple of things that I've got in beta on TestFlight, but mostly it's just things in

00:38:24 ◼   ► the app store. And then every now and then I open one and I'm like, "Oh, this one's on

00:38:30 ◼   ► the iPhone 10." Like I said with Fantastic College, like, "Oh, look at that. Isn't that

00:38:33 ◼   ► - That's nice. - Look at you.

00:38:35 ◼   ► - And then others like Slack I opened, I'm like,

00:38:38 ◼   ► (mumbles)

00:38:39 ◼   ► - Black bars.

00:38:41 ◼   ► And actually it's a weird,

00:38:42 ◼   ► I wonder if they've changed something with that,

00:38:44 ◼   ► you know, swipe from the left gesture,

00:38:46 ◼   ► where you swipe from the screen edge to go back.

00:38:50 ◼   ► I wonder if something's changed there,

00:38:51 ◼   ► 'cause what I've actually found is in an app like Slack

00:38:53 ◼   ► that really relies on that swipe from the left gesture,

00:38:56 ◼   ► I have to be way more careful about how I do it,

00:38:59 ◼   ► or it doesn't trigger.

00:39:00 ◼   ► So I think that there may be some,

00:39:01 ◼   ► I think maybe the edge gestures have all been tweaked

00:39:05 ◼   ► a little bit in the iPhone 10,

00:39:06 ◼   ► and that maybe some apps are gonna have to react

00:39:09 ◼   ► to that too, but I don't know any technical reasons why.

00:39:12 ◼   ► All I know is that literally I used to just do

00:39:14 ◼   ► a very sloppy swipe from the left edge of the phone

00:39:17 ◼   ► to the right to bring up, open the channel view in Slack,

00:39:21 ◼   ► and now I kind of need to plant my finger,

00:39:23 ◼   ► plant my thumb on the screen and swipe to the right

00:39:27 ◼   ► to get it to work reliably.

00:39:28 ◼   ► - Okay, so there's some tweaking, right?

00:39:29 ◼   ► there's some tweaking that they need to do for that.

00:39:32 ◼   ► - Yeah, I mean, in other words,

00:39:33 ◼   ► if you're somebody who is really excited

00:39:35 ◼   ► about some of these features on the iPhone 10

00:39:37 ◼   ► and the big screen and expects all of your favorite apps

00:39:40 ◼   ► to support it right away, you may be disappointed

00:39:43 ◼   ► because it is not trivial to do this.

00:39:46 ◼   ► And they had very little time.

00:39:48 ◼   ► Keep in mind, these are also developers

00:39:49 ◼   ► who worked all summer to support iOS 11 stuff.

00:39:52 ◼   ► They finally hit the finish line

00:39:53 ◼   ► and the day they're about to hit the finish line,

00:39:55 ◼   ► a new phone with totally new screen size

00:39:57 ◼   ► that's very different from what's come before is announced.

00:40:00 ◼   ► So, you know, at that point they're like,

00:40:02 ◼   ► kind of exhausted, and now they've got a whole new version

00:40:06 ◼   ► of their app that they basically need to do

00:40:08 ◼   ► in order to address it.

00:40:09 ◼   ► So it may take a little bit of time.

00:40:10 ◼   ► - This has happened before, right?

00:40:11 ◼   ► When we got the 6 and the 6S, the 12.9 and the Sharp Air Pro,

00:40:14 ◼   ► like this is a thing that's happened.

00:40:15 ◼   ► When we got the 5, like as every time screens get bigger,

00:40:19 ◼   ► there has to be some kind of considerations.

00:40:21 ◼   ► And these considerations are different

00:40:23 ◼   ► because the screen is bigger,

00:40:25 ◼   ► but it also has a cut taken out on the top and bottom,

00:40:27 ◼   ► But you know, it's just stuff to consider, right?

00:40:30 ◼   ► Like and developers will find their ways around it.

00:40:33 ◼   ► There will be, I'm sure, many new design conventions

00:40:35 ◼   ► that come out of this over the next couple of months.

00:40:38 ◼   ► You know, like someone has a really smart idea

00:40:40 ◼   ► and then it starts to pollinate across the, you know,

00:40:43 ◼   ► across the ecosystem, like port to refresh

00:40:44 ◼   ► or something like that, you know, or hamburger buttons.

00:40:47 ◼   ► I'm sure there'll be some stuff like that

00:40:48 ◼   ► that starts to pop out as people work, you know,

00:40:50 ◼   ► kind of work through this stuff and work out some things

00:40:52 ◼   ► over the next weeks and months and stuff like that.

00:40:57 ◼   ► the new home button which we'll refer to as the home indicator because that seems to be

00:41:02 ◼   ► how it's being referred to in the HIG, thanks to the chatroom for digging that up.

00:41:05 ◼   ► All righty. So the home indicator, how easy is it to use this? I mean,

00:41:10 ◼   ► is this something that you're struggling to get used to? You're swiping up now rather than

00:41:16 ◼   ► pressing a button. How has this been? I love it. It takes some getting used to,

00:41:21 ◼   ► but it doesn't take a lot of getting used to. It happens pretty fast because – and everybody's

00:41:25 ◼   ► different and everybody's how they hold their phone is different right so

00:41:28 ◼   ► everybody's gonna have an experience for me this is a way less complicated

00:41:32 ◼   ► gesture than the old one because keeping in mind the old one was put thumb flat

00:41:37 ◼   ► on touch ID sensor have it register press the button and now all I have to

00:41:44 ◼   ► do and it's it's basically the same place and in fact when I forget that I'm

00:41:48 ◼   ► using an iPhone 10 and I put my thumb down there and I realize there's no

00:41:51 ◼   ► button, all I do is flip up, like from the place I expected the home button to be, and

00:41:57 ◼   ► it unlocks the phone. So it's like literally for me, the same place. It's just instead

00:42:02 ◼   ► of holding my thumb flat and then pressing, I'm able to just do a swipe. So it's a less

00:42:10 ◼   ► complicated gesture that is pretty much the same in terms of muscle memory, but easier.

00:42:17 ◼   ► So I like it.

00:42:19 ◼   ► It takes a little getting used to, but I really like it.

00:42:22 ◼   ► I think it's totally natural.

00:42:23 ◼   ► I think there are gestures that have been redefined that are going to take more getting

00:42:27 ◼   ► used to and are less discoverable and maybe a little finicky, but the actual swipe up

00:42:34 ◼   ► to unlock or go home, I think it is super easy and natural.

00:42:40 ◼   ► What about the multitasking view?

00:42:42 ◼   ► That one takes a little more getting used to because you've got to swipe and hold and

00:42:46 ◼   ► remember to keep holding until the other kind of cards come out, which is both a little

00:42:52 ◼   ► less discoverable and also more easily accidentally triggered, but it's, you know, once you learn

00:43:01 ◼   ► that it's there, it's pretty easy to bring it up consistently. It's just that one requires

00:43:07 ◼   ► a little more thought at first to get your head around.

00:43:11 ◼   ► - And there's also this one where you kind of swipe

00:43:14 ◼   ► the bar and go backwards and forwards, right?

00:43:16 ◼   ► Like this seems to be a thing.

00:43:17 ◼   ► - Yeah, this is the reason why

00:43:21 ◼   ► I think iOS 11 accidentally, question mark,

00:43:26 ◼   ► did away with the 3D touch from left to right

00:43:30 ◼   ► to go back to the previous app, remember that?

00:43:33 ◼   ► Remember that thing that used to be a feature

00:43:35 ◼   ► and then in iOS 11 it sort of got turned off

00:43:37 ◼   ► and they said, "No, no, no, it'll come back

00:43:38 ◼   ► in a future update." - I think it's back now.

00:43:40 ◼   ► because 11.1 came out today as extra,

00:43:42 ◼   ► actually while we're recording,

00:43:43 ◼   ► bringing with it emoji and the re-installation

00:43:46 ◼   ► of this feature. - Yay!

00:43:48 ◼   ► Yeah, so this is why that went away, right?

00:43:53 ◼   ► It seems, because this is that feature essentially.

00:43:55 ◼   ► So they rebuilt it for the iPhone 10

00:43:57 ◼   ► and then I guess forgot or couldn't get back

00:44:00 ◼   ► to getting it work for the other devices again,

00:44:02 ◼   ► because it's the same premise,

00:44:03 ◼   ► which is if you put your finger or thumb down there

00:44:06 ◼   ► in that multitasking area

00:44:07 ◼   ► and you do a straight on swipe left or right,

00:44:10 ◼   ► it moves you in that stack.

00:44:12 ◼   ► So, you know, from left to right,

00:44:13 ◼   ► it will take you back to the previous app.

00:44:15 ◼   ► And then left to right again,

00:44:17 ◼   ► will take you back another one.

00:44:18 ◼   ► And then if you go right to left,

00:44:19 ◼   ► it will take you back to the one that's to the right

00:44:21 ◼   ► in that kind of,

00:44:22 ◼   ► when you don't do any other multitasking stuff,

00:44:24 ◼   ► it tries for a little while to keep them

00:44:26 ◼   ► in the right sequence.

00:44:27 ◼   ► So if you've got like calendar, email and Safari,

00:44:31 ◼   ► and you go left to right from calendar to email

00:44:33 ◼   ► and left to right from email to Safari,

00:44:35 ◼   ► if you don't, I don't know whether it's time

00:44:38 ◼   ► or more multitasking or whatever,

00:44:40 ◼   ► but for a while at least, if you're like,

00:44:42 ◼   ► oh no, actually I wanna go back to email,

00:44:44 ◼   ► then you go right to left and it will

00:44:46 ◼   ► flip you back to email. - I like that a lot.

00:44:48 ◼   ► I really like that.

00:44:50 ◼   ► - It's basically the four finger swipe

00:44:54 ◼   ► to switch apps from the iPad.

00:44:56 ◼   ► - 'Cause the iPad has that.

00:44:57 ◼   ► It keeps you in place for a period of time.

00:45:01 ◼   ► You go left, right, left, right.

00:45:02 ◼   ► You're not going left, left, left, left, right?

00:45:04 ◼   ► It's kind of keeping some persistence

00:45:06 ◼   ► as to where you've come from and where you're going,

00:45:09 ◼   ► rather than just immediately moving the old apps to the left.

00:45:13 ◼   ► - Right, it would be super confusing if you went,

00:45:14 ◼   ► "Oh, to my left is this is app B."

00:45:18 ◼   ► And then you're like, "Now I want to go back to app A.

00:45:20 ◼   ► "I will go to the right."

00:45:21 ◼   ► And it was like, "Oh no, I don't know

00:45:22 ◼   ► "what you're talking about, this is the end."

00:45:23 ◼   ► 'Cause it's like, "No, I just came from there."

00:45:25 ◼   ► - Yeah, A is at the left again now, right?

00:45:27 ◼   ► Like they all just jump over one.

00:45:29 ◼   ► So yeah, I'm pretty pleased about that.

00:45:29 ◼   ► - And that's super confusing.

00:45:31 ◼   ► - That's excellent.

00:45:32 ◼   ► - You could also never get to a third app using that, right?

00:45:34 ◼   ► It would always be those two, and you'd be like,

00:45:35 ◼   ► I'm trapped, I can't get up, right?

00:45:37 ◼   ► So instead they maintain some amount of like

00:45:40 ◼   ► that geography temporarily, that geography persists.

00:45:43 ◼   ► And that, you know, it's a,

00:45:45 ◼   ► I think it's a way more discoverable

00:45:46 ◼   ► and a natural gesture than the 3D touch, you know,

00:45:49 ◼   ► push hard and then swipe with your finger

00:45:51 ◼   ► and then you go to the previous app.

00:45:53 ◼   ► Now it's just swipe in that area left to right.

00:45:56 ◼   ► And it, you know, basically as you're swiping your finger

00:45:58 ◼   ► or thumb, the interface is sliding underneath you

00:46:03 ◼   ► and bringing that other app in.

00:46:05 ◼   ► Cover sheet has seen some changes, right?

00:46:07 ◼   ► There's a flashlight and camera button

00:46:09 ◼   ► now on the notification lock screen thing.

00:46:12 ◼   ► - Yeah, I think this is a reaction to the fact

00:46:16 ◼   ► that control center has been exiled to the top right.

00:46:19 ◼   ► - Okay.

00:46:20 ◼   ► - And it actually makes me a little bit sad

00:46:22 ◼   ► 'cause I know they wanna limit what junk is on that

00:46:26 ◼   ► lock screen because they want you to see your notifications.

00:46:29 ◼   ► But I found myself thinking,

00:46:31 ◼   ► could we not have like optionally

00:46:33 ◼   ► a few more control center items on the screen.

00:46:36 ◼   ► Yeah, I would prefer home to the flashlight for example.

00:46:40 ◼   ► Right right I mean I use a flashlight all the time and I know how to swipe right to

00:46:44 ◼   ► get to the camera so I really don't need a camera button there right.

00:46:47 ◼   ► Does swiping right still go to the camera?

00:46:49 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:46:50 ◼   ► Even though there's this persistent button that's interesting.

00:46:52 ◼   ► Yeah if you just swipe right on the main interface not down in the application thing but the

00:46:56 ◼   ► main interface and the lock screen it does exactly what it used to do which is and left

00:47:01 ◼   ► takes you to the widgets.

00:47:03 ◼   ► But if you 3D touch on the flashlight,

00:47:05 ◼   ► the flashlight comes on, which their thought there is,

00:47:08 ◼   ► if you really need to take a picture

00:47:10 ◼   ► or flash the flashlight, you want quick access to that.

00:47:13 ◼   ► So they put those on the screen with quick access.

00:47:16 ◼   ► - So talking about Control Center,

00:47:20 ◼   ► one thing that I'm a little bit disappointed about

00:47:23 ◼   ► is the fact that it's been moved

00:47:25 ◼   ► to a not so convenient place

00:47:27 ◼   ► when I really wish they would have found a way

00:47:29 ◼   ► to integrate it into the multitasking view

00:47:31 ◼   ► like it is on the iPad.

00:47:32 ◼   ► So you're still swiping up and then it's there.

00:47:35 ◼   ► You're like how on the iPad,

00:47:37 ◼   ► the kind of the multitasking and the control center

00:47:39 ◼   ► is all in the same place.

00:47:41 ◼   ► But with the iPhone 10, if I'm right,

00:47:43 ◼   ► you pull down from one of the ears of the phone,

00:47:47 ◼   ► the little Batman ears,

00:47:48 ◼   ► and you pull down from the right one, if that's correct,

00:47:51 ◼   ► and then left and middle is still

00:47:52 ◼   ► to bring down your notifications,

00:47:54 ◼   ► but the right one brings down control center.

00:47:56 ◼   ► - Yep, that's it.

00:47:58 ◼   ► And it makes me a little bit sad because as I pointed out,

00:48:00 ◼   ► the top of the screen is very far away.

00:48:03 ◼   ► And I got used to flipping up control center, right?

00:48:06 ◼   ► - Yeah. - And now you can't.

00:48:08 ◼   ► Now for me, control center is not a casual flip up

00:48:11 ◼   ► with my thumb.

00:48:12 ◼   ► Now it is a bring over the other hand,

00:48:14 ◼   ► take the index finger and bring it down.

00:48:17 ◼   ► So it's, I know why they did it.

00:48:19 ◼   ► I mean, they had to do it because that

00:48:21 ◼   ► go to the home screen gesture is the most important gesture.

00:48:24 ◼   ► And that is the most natural place to put it,

00:48:27 ◼   ► but it still makes me sad because I like Control Center

00:48:30 ◼   ► and I use it all the time.

00:48:31 ◼   ► And it is kind of in, you know,

00:48:34 ◼   ► exiled into Siberia at this point.

00:48:36 ◼   ► It's way up in the top right.

00:48:38 ◼   ► It is as far away.

00:48:39 ◼   ► 'Cause I hold my, I found one handed in my left hand.

00:48:42 ◼   ► And so the up top right is just, forget it.

00:48:47 ◼   ► Like I'm never gonna casually reach the Control Center now.

00:48:50 ◼   ► It's never gonna happen.

00:48:51 ◼   ► - And there's no way to flip those around?

00:48:54 ◼   ► - No, no.

00:48:55 ◼   ► - That's too core a feature to, I mean, I wouldn't want to,

00:48:59 ◼   ► I wouldn't want to make going back to the home screen

00:49:01 ◼   ► exiled either, right?

00:49:02 ◼   ► - I meant like the left and right, you know,

00:49:04 ◼   ► like can you put control center on the left and...

00:49:07 ◼   ► - Well, yeah, I wondered if there is there another gesture

00:49:09 ◼   ► that you could do to bring up control center?

00:49:11 ◼   ► I'd actually rather have a control center button

00:49:14 ◼   ► on the lock screen, quite honestly.

00:49:16 ◼   ► Like instead of flashlight, I'd rather 3D touch

00:49:19 ◼   ► to bring up control center,

00:49:21 ◼   ► but that's not in the cards either, it seems.

00:49:23 ◼   ► - Can you combine it with the reachability?

00:49:25 ◼   ► if you activate reachability, can you then just swipe down from what would be the previous area?

00:49:28 ◼   ► Because this is something you used to be able to do, and I think has actually come back with

00:49:33 ◼   ► 11.1 or it's coming from 11.2, that if you use reachability, you can just swipe down on the

00:49:37 ◼   ► blank area to bring the notification screen down. Can you do the same for control center? Like if

00:49:42 ◼   ► you use reachability and swipe from the right hand side, does it bring control center down from like

00:49:46 ◼   ► halfway on the screen rather than the top? Yes, it does. So that's how I expect I will be using it.

00:49:52 ◼   ► So it's two gestures rather than one, but I bet I will get used to that pretty quickly,

00:49:57 ◼   ► like swipe swipe.

00:49:58 ◼   ► Right?

00:49:59 ◼   ► Like I feel like I will, that will get embedded for me over time as what I end up doing.

00:50:03 ◼   ► So reachability, if I'm following correctly from your review, you have to enable it as

00:50:08 ◼   ► an accessibility setting, which is fine.

00:50:10 ◼   ► And then you swipe down on the home indicator, right?

00:50:13 ◼   ► Is that how that works?

00:50:14 ◼   ► Yeah, basically.

00:50:15 ◼   ► So it's a little bit more fine a gesture than a lot of these, where you can just sort of

00:50:19 ◼   ► start on the left or the right or the bottom and then flip up.

00:50:22 ◼   ► This one, you have to land your finger or thumb

00:50:25 ◼   ► in that space down there by the home indicator,

00:50:29 ◼   ► high enough up that you can give then a little pull down.

00:50:33 ◼   ► So you basically land near the bottom of the screen

00:50:37 ◼   ► and then pull down and then reachability triggers,

00:50:39 ◼   ► which is logical in the sense that you are literally

00:50:42 ◼   ► kind of pulling the interface downward.

00:50:44 ◼   ► But it just requires a little more finesse

00:50:48 ◼   ► with and precision with where you land your finger

00:50:52 ◼   ► because you don't wanna be too high up

00:50:53 ◼   ► or you're just gonna scroll through the app.

00:50:55 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:50:56 ◼   ► - Right, you've gotta be down there in that area

00:50:58 ◼   ► which is why that area needs to stay clear

00:51:00 ◼   ► because there are like these system wide gestures

00:51:03 ◼   ► that are going on down in that area.

00:51:05 ◼   ► - So Vidit in the chat room just shared a mock-up

00:51:09 ◼   ► that he put together that a while ago

00:51:12 ◼   ► which I actually really like of where maybe control center

00:51:16 ◼   ► could go in the multitasking view

00:51:18 ◼   ► And I hope that that's something that maybe could get added in the future,

00:51:21 ◼   ► like a way to try and combine those two, uh,

00:51:23 ◼   ► to make it a little bit more useful. Um, I would really like that because,

00:51:27 ◼   ► you know, Apple do it on the iPad and this is the same gesture, right?

00:51:30 ◼   ► The swipe up. I think that's kind of where it came from.

00:51:32 ◼   ► And I wouldn't be surprised if that's one of the reasons that you've gotten used

00:51:35 ◼   ► to it and I'll get used to it quickly is I'm very used to now never using the

00:51:40 ◼   ► home button on my iPad. I just do the swipe up gesture to get to everything.

00:51:44 ◼   ► So I expect that will embed with me quite quickly too, for that reason.

00:51:47 ◼   ► - It doesn't solve it on the lock screen though,

00:51:50 ◼   ► which is the other part of this.

00:51:51 ◼   ► But like I said, you could potentially just put

00:51:54 ◼   ► a control center button on the lock screen

00:51:57 ◼   ► so that I could 3D touch that

00:51:58 ◼   ► and then the lock screen becomes the control center.

00:52:01 ◼   ► - I'm gonna assume that iOS 12 brings something

00:52:04 ◼   ► because every single version of iOS changes control center

00:52:06 ◼   ► in some new way.

00:52:08 ◼   ► So we can cross our fingers.

00:52:10 ◼   ► - I love the new control center and I use it all the time.

00:52:14 ◼   ► I use it to adjust screen brightness.

00:52:15 ◼   ► I use it for home kit.

00:52:17 ◼   ► I use it all the time.

00:52:19 ◼   ► I use it for music controls and also to connect my AirPods because there's a quick way to

00:52:23 ◼   ► do that if you click that little chevrony thing in the corner.

00:52:28 ◼   ► I hope that they find some way to make that either A) more useful or B) that after some

00:52:33 ◼   ► use I get used to the new way of activating it.

00:52:37 ◼   ► Last thing I want to talk about in regards to iOS's changes, because that's what this

00:52:40 ◼   ► segment is by the way, this is the changes to iOS, is the many buttons and the way that

00:52:46 ◼   ► that they're all changing. So kind of how do you take a screenshot and how do you turn

00:52:50 ◼   ► off the iPhone?

00:52:52 ◼   ► Uh, oh boy. So taking a screenshot, you use the side button and the volume up button.

00:53:04 ◼   ► But this is the story is, okay, every single gesture that's on the home button has to move.

00:53:09 ◼   ► How do we move them all? So that's how you do the screenshot. To do Siri, you hold down

00:53:13 ◼   ► on the side button, like you used to hold down

00:53:14 ◼   ► the home button.

00:53:15 ◼   ► To do Apple Pay, you double tap the side button,

00:53:17 ◼   ► like you used to double tap the home button.

00:53:19 ◼   ► To do a reboot, you hold down the right, the side button

00:53:24 ◼   ► and the, I wanna say the volume up button

00:53:31 ◼   ► and you hold them down, I think is what it is,

00:53:35 ◼   ► for a while and you'll get that, you know,

00:53:37 ◼   ► the prompt to turn it off.

00:53:38 ◼   ► - That's to turn it off, right?

00:53:39 ◼   ► That's to turn off.

00:53:40 ◼   ► - Yeah, and then the reboot, and this is amazing.

00:53:43 ◼   ► - This is the forced restart you're talking about now.

00:53:45 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's like, remember where you,

00:53:47 ◼   ► where it used to be home and the side button

00:53:50 ◼   ► or the, it used to be the top button,

00:53:52 ◼   ► but you know, the sleep wake button

00:53:53 ◼   ► and you hold them both down and it's like die.

00:53:56 ◼   ► - And then it changed to on the seven with like.

00:53:59 ◼   ► - Seven because there's no physical,

00:54:01 ◼   ► it's a software home button basically.

00:54:02 ◼   ► - And it's like volume down and.

00:54:05 ◼   ► - So on the eight, it is volume up, volume down

00:54:09 ◼   ► and then hold the side button.

00:54:11 ◼   ► - So wait. - In that order.

00:54:12 ◼   ► It's like control alt delete.

00:54:13 ◼   ► - You press up, down, it's like a cheat code.

00:54:16 ◼   ► - It's like a cheat code.

00:54:17 ◼   ► - That's incredible.

00:54:18 ◼   ► - For rebooting your iPhone.

00:54:18 ◼   ► - It's the Konami code for iPhone.

00:54:20 ◼   ► - Yeah.

00:54:21 ◼   ► - I love that, that's hilarious.

00:54:23 ◼   ► I mean, okay, like I see why they're doing it.

00:54:25 ◼   ► It's, and also I reckon most people very rarely need that.

00:54:29 ◼   ► What they most of the time need is just the way

00:54:31 ◼   ► to bring up the turn off, right?

00:54:32 ◼   ► Like I feel like in most situations

00:54:34 ◼   ► that will probably solve what people are looking for.

00:54:37 ◼   ► But yeah, it's funny that, I mean,

00:54:39 ◼   ► I would have thought that just holding all three buttons

00:54:41 ◼   ► would work fine. That feels to me more like a bailout situation.

00:54:46 ◼   ► I think they don't want to make it easy, because you don't normally want to force reboot an

00:54:52 ◼   ► iPhone. So they want to make it for people in the know or who are looking up an emergency

00:54:58 ◼   ► thing online, but not everywhere.

00:55:01 ◼   ► So that's that part. There are more button uses that I'm going to talk about, but we're

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00:57:46 ◼   ► Okay so Face ID, maybe the main event, you know, like I know that the screen is like

00:57:51 ◼   ► a big thing but I think Face ID, this is the thing that like, what is this going to be

00:57:56 ◼   ► be? What fundamental change is this going to be to the iPhone? Because the screen is

00:58:00 ◼   ► the screen. We know Apple can make a good screen, right? No matter what it is they've

00:58:04 ◼   ► done, they're so good at this now, the screen's going to be great. And you can decide whether

00:58:08 ◼   ► you like or don't like the notch, but that's your own personal taste. But Face ID, facial

00:58:12 ◼   ► recognition, it's never really been done very well before, especially on phones. So I'm

00:58:17 ◼   ► going to go through all of this with you, Jason. How was the setup process?

00:58:21 ◼   ► Shockingly easy, easier than Touch ID, I would argue.

00:58:26 ◼   ► Psst, I hate the Touch ID setup.

00:58:28 ◼   ► - I hate it.

00:58:29 ◼   ► - Right? - I hate it.

00:58:30 ◼   ► - Okay, so Touch ID where it's like,

00:58:32 ◼   ► hey, we scanned your finger.

00:58:34 ◼   ► Now change your grip and keep repeatedly

00:58:38 ◼   ► touching your finger awkwardly on the thing

00:58:40 ◼   ► until we tell you not to, as we show you an animation

00:58:43 ◼   ► that may or may not be tied to what's actually happening.

00:58:46 ◼   ► - And then I have to go into settings

00:58:47 ◼   ► and add every single other one of my fingers, right?

00:58:50 ◼   ► like you do this like five times or something.

00:58:53 ◼   ► - Well, good news, you only have one face

00:58:56 ◼   ► and it'll only accept one face.

00:58:58 ◼   ► - This is frustrating for me,

00:59:00 ◼   ► but it's not the end of the world.

00:59:01 ◼   ► Like, you know, I would like, like me and Adina,

00:59:03 ◼   ► we share fingerprints on our devices and it would,

00:59:06 ◼   ► you know, she's just gonna, she knows my code,

00:59:08 ◼   ► she's gonna have to use the code, right?

00:59:10 ◼   ► - Yeah, that is, I wish it would support more faces

00:59:14 ◼   ► and maybe it will in the future

00:59:15 ◼   ► and maybe there's some hardware constraints there,

00:59:16 ◼   ► but it will only do it, but yeah, training is easy.

00:59:20 ◼   ► like shockingly easy so uh... when you set it up it'll train you but you can

00:59:24 ◼   ► also at any time

00:59:25 ◼   ► uh... just going to settings into the uh... face i_d_ settings of the settings

00:59:29 ◼   ► app

00:59:30 ◼   ► and say enable face i_d_ and what happens and there's a video in my review

00:59:35 ◼   ► on six colors

00:59:36 ◼   ► i did a minute and a half video of like the top features

00:59:40 ◼   ► of it it's hosted by a monkey and emoji with my voice. By the way, I just want to say about

00:59:44 ◼   ► this as a quick aside i have no idea how you did this

00:59:47 ◼   ► I have no idea how you wrote the review and made a video.

00:59:50 ◼   ► You are superhuman, Jason Snow.

00:59:52 ◼   ► - Don't tell anybody or they'll come

00:59:55 ◼   ► and take me to Area 51.

00:59:56 ◼   ► - Shh, don't tell anybody.

00:59:58 ◼   ► Now you've gotta be the alien emoji now.

01:00:00 ◼   ► - So my entire enrollment in Face ID is in that video.

01:00:04 ◼   ► And that's like, I think I shortened the pause

01:00:08 ◼   ► between the two scans by a half a second or something

01:00:12 ◼   ► to get it to match my voiceover.

01:00:14 ◼   ► But basically it's all there.

01:00:15 ◼   ► And all you do is you say, train, okay, so train face ID.

01:00:19 ◼   ► And it shows you a selfie,

01:00:23 ◼   ► the selfie camera with a kind of like a target box.

01:00:26 ◼   ► And you're supposed to put your face in there.

01:00:27 ◼   ► And then when it does that,

01:00:28 ◼   ► then suddenly you get like a circle.

01:00:31 ◼   ► And it's very much sort of like guiding you to like,

01:00:33 ◼   ► look at the thing and see your face in the circle.

01:00:37 ◼   ► And once that happens, then you get this,

01:00:40 ◼   ► it's like a little, like a clock almost around your face.

01:00:44 ◼   ► and it says, and like sound effect begins to play

01:00:48 ◼   ► of like it's seriously like,

01:00:50 ◼   ► like it's scanning you, but it's just a sound effect.

01:00:53 ◼   ► It's just silly.

01:00:54 ◼   ► And they did it to make you feel like your face

01:00:56 ◼   ► is being scanned 'cause it is,

01:00:58 ◼   ► but it's being done silently.

01:00:59 ◼   ► So they make a sound effect.

01:01:01 ◼   ► And the text basically says, move your head around

01:01:04 ◼   ► sort of in a circle until the circle fills in.

01:01:08 ◼   ► And so basically at that point,

01:01:10 ◼   ► there's this like clock ring around you.

01:01:13 ◼   ► And as you basically want to kind of like lift your head up and kind of pivot your neck

01:01:18 ◼   ► and just sort of like let your phone see different angles of your face. And as you do that, it's

01:01:22 ◼   ► giving you the feedback as the little circle moves around. So essentially, you do one little

01:01:29 ◼   ► neck stretch from 9 o'clock to midnight down to 6 o'clock and back to 9 o'clock, like just

01:01:36 ◼   ► around the dial. And it goes, "Great, do that one more time." And you do it one more time

01:01:41 ◼   ► and it says "Done!" and that's it. It takes no time, it's completely painless. I do have

01:01:47 ◼   ► a trivia tidbit and this came out of my briefing, which is Face ID is entirely based on infrared.

01:01:53 ◼   ► The only time that the selfie camera gets used is in the setup process to give you feedback

01:01:59 ◼   ► where you see yourself as you would see you in visible light. That's the only time that

01:02:04 ◼   ► camera is used, the RGB camera. In terms of the actual training and actual sensing and

01:02:09 ◼   ► actual detecting, all of that is infrared. They've got the dot.

01:02:15 ◼   ► It's not the camera, they're just showing you it's working.

01:02:18 ◼   ► That's for humans. That's so smart.

01:02:20 ◼   ► That's to make you feel good about what you're doing.

01:02:22 ◼   ► It's not needed. It's like in the same way that you don't see a picture of your thumb

01:02:25 ◼   ► when you're using Touch ID. It's not required.

01:02:30 ◼   ► So they show that to you and they play the weird sound effect of scanning and they put

01:02:34 ◼   ► this little computer scanning effect over your face to make you feel like, "Yes, now

01:02:38 ◼   ► it's tracking my face and it knows me, but that's all for show. In the background, it's

01:02:43 ◼   ► got an infrared blaster basically that's bathing your face in infrared, which you can't see,

01:02:48 ◼   ► and it's got the dot projector which is putting those dots on your face.

01:02:51 ◼   ► That's Apple whimsy, what that is right there. That really is great.

01:02:55 ◼   ► Oh yeah. Well also, I mean, it's whimsy, well it's Apple whimsy in the sense that it's whimsy

01:03:00 ◼   ► with a user purpose, which is to make you feel, it's delighting you in the fact that

01:03:06 ◼   ► your face is being scanned, but it's also giving you feedback that yes, this is a futuristic

01:03:12 ◼   ► device that is scanning your face with its magical process.

01:03:14 ◼   ► - Oh, that's so great. I love that.

01:03:16 ◼   ► - To make you feel like it's actually happening, right down to the fact that it's got these

01:03:21 ◼   ► sound effects going on in the background. But it's super fast. I mean, you really, you

01:03:24 ◼   ► do a couple of neck stretches and you're done.

01:03:28 ◼   ► - How fast is it to unlock, Jason? Let's be real.

01:03:31 ◼   ► Okay, let's be real. Face ID makes unlocking your phone irrelevant. It's a, I saw, I think

01:03:41 ◼   ► it was Ben Baharan? Somebody said, or no, Horace Deju said, "It's not a feature."

01:03:49 ◼   ► From a user perspective, it's basically not a feature. Once you get used to it, which

01:03:53 ◼   ► takes no time, like I'm already doing it, so it took me hours. Once you are used to

01:04:00 ◼   ► the fact that when you pick up your phone

01:04:03 ◼   ► and flip up from the bottom, it just opens.

01:04:05 ◼   ► You stop thinking about Face ID.

01:04:07 ◼   ► It just, it disappears.

01:04:10 ◼   ► And it's fast enough that most of the time,

01:04:13 ◼   ► when I flip up, it's already unlocked.

01:04:16 ◼   ► And the way Apple has done it,

01:04:20 ◼   ► if you flip up and it's not unlocked,

01:04:23 ◼   ► it completes the unlocking procedure

01:04:25 ◼   ► and then proceeds with the flip up gesture.

01:04:29 ◼   ► So you don't have to wait to see that the lock is now unlocked and then flip.

01:04:34 ◼   ► There's no like pause for unlock.

01:04:36 ◼   ► Now I'll go.

01:04:37 ◼   ► You just pick up your phone and flip and it all happens.

01:04:41 ◼   ► And I have not had a, I have not had a failure.

01:04:44 ◼   ► The only failures I've had are when I have like been showing it to somebody.

01:04:49 ◼   ► And so there's like multiple faces or it's pointed out out of the fit or I'm

01:04:52 ◼   ► holding it kind of in an unusual way, but in terms of just literally just picking

01:04:56 ◼   ► it up and flipping that works every time.

01:04:59 ◼   ► And yes, occasionally there is a delay where I flip

01:05:03 ◼   ► and I see the words face ID for a moment

01:05:05 ◼   ► and then they go away, but it is momentary.

01:05:08 ◼   ► It is a fraction of a second.

01:05:10 ◼   ► So I'm very impressed.

01:05:12 ◼   ► Like again, your face may vary.

01:05:15 ◼   ► In fact, it probably will.

01:05:16 ◼   ► Otherwise you could unlock my phone, but it just worked.

01:05:20 ◼   ► I mean, I hate to say it just works, right?

01:05:22 ◼   ► We all joke about, oh, it just works.

01:05:24 ◼   ► It just works.

01:05:25 ◼   ► Like for me, it has just worked

01:05:28 ◼   ► And it shows you why,

01:05:30 ◼   ► we talked about this on the show before,

01:05:32 ◼   ► the goal here is not what if we made face scanning,

01:05:35 ◼   ► if you're Apple, right?

01:05:36 ◼   ► The goal is what if we made it so that

01:05:39 ◼   ► when you use your phone, it knows it's you

01:05:41 ◼   ► and it just unlocks it and you don't have to change

01:05:43 ◼   ► anything about your behavior.

01:05:45 ◼   ► And that's the goal.

01:05:46 ◼   ► And I think they met it.

01:05:47 ◼   ► Like, I don't, it's just not an issue.

01:05:50 ◼   ► And on top of that,

01:05:52 ◼   ► on apps that do biometric authentication,

01:05:55 ◼   ► you can, you see where it's like, you know,

01:05:57 ◼   ► it brings up a little Face ID thing and then it opens.

01:05:59 ◼   ► But like, I don't have to like,

01:06:01 ◼   ► oh yeah, right, I need to enable Touch ID

01:06:04 ◼   ► and move my thumb down and have it read my thumbprint

01:06:06 ◼   ► and now I can use the thing.

01:06:08 ◼   ► Instead it goes like, boop, Face ID unlocked

01:06:11 ◼   ► and that's it for apps too.

01:06:12 ◼   ► It's pretty great, pretty great.

01:06:15 ◼   ► - If you try like angles,

01:06:16 ◼   ► like do you have to have the phone right in front

01:06:17 ◼   ► of your face?

01:06:18 ◼   ► What is that like?

01:06:19 ◼   ► - I mean, it just seems to work

01:06:22 ◼   ► unless you get it kind of like at an unreasonable angle.

01:06:24 ◼   ► Like if it's laying down on a table,

01:06:26 ◼   ► I kind of have to lean over like, hello.

01:06:28 ◼   ► And then it unlocks.

01:06:29 ◼   ► - Okay. - Right?

01:06:31 ◼   ► So you can't, yeah.

01:06:32 ◼   ► So if you want to unlock it,

01:06:33 ◼   ► like when it's in your pocket

01:06:34 ◼   ► or when it's laying on the table,

01:06:36 ◼   ► you know, six inches away from you into the table.

01:06:41 ◼   ► Yeah, it's not gonna unlock 'cause it can't see you.

01:06:44 ◼   ► But you know, the use case

01:06:46 ◼   ► that's by far the most common is you pick up your phone

01:06:49 ◼   ► and with the raise to wake,

01:06:53 ◼   ► you literally like lift up your phone

01:06:54 ◼   ► and your thumb is moving to the bottom of the screen

01:06:57 ◼   ► and you flip it open and your phone's open

01:06:58 ◼   ► and you just don't even think about it.

01:07:00 ◼   ► And that happens, for me, that happened very quickly.

01:07:03 ◼   ► Like this morning in the car, my wife is driving,

01:07:05 ◼   ► we're coming back from the doctor

01:07:07 ◼   ► and I was like, oh yeah, I wanna see what's going on.

01:07:10 ◼   ► And I took the phone out and I went flip and was looking

01:07:13 ◼   ► and then I thought, oh yeah, I just unlocked that phone

01:07:16 ◼   ► without even thinking about it.

01:07:17 ◼   ► I didn't think about where my face was, was I looking?

01:07:21 ◼   ► I was just behaving like a person using their phone

01:07:23 ◼   ► and it all just happened.

01:07:25 ◼   ► - And you can do like, I mean, you know,

01:07:27 ◼   ► this is my hope is that like, you know,

01:07:29 ◼   ► you just take your phone out your pocket,

01:07:30 ◼   ► you just swipe up and look at it like it's just a motion.

01:07:33 ◼   ► Like, you know, the swipe up is done

01:07:34 ◼   ► before it's in front of your face kind of thing.

01:07:36 ◼   ► - Yeah, and that works, right?

01:07:38 ◼   ► Like if you pick it up and you're swiping

01:07:41 ◼   ► and it's not open yet,

01:07:43 ◼   ► by the time you get it up to your face,

01:07:45 ◼   ► then it Face ID unlocks and it opens

01:07:47 ◼   ► and it holds that gesture.

01:07:49 ◼   ► It knows you're trying to open the phone

01:07:51 ◼   ► and it holds that gesture

01:07:52 ◼   ► and it puts up a translucent sheet that says face ID,

01:07:55 ◼   ► and then the thing, little thing spins

01:07:57 ◼   ► for a fraction of a second and it unlocks.

01:07:58 ◼   ► So you, even though there's two steps,

01:08:02 ◼   ► you can do them out of sequence and it's fine.

01:08:05 ◼   ► - And because of the face ID stuff,

01:08:07 ◼   ► it's also hiding notifications now, right?

01:08:09 ◼   ► - Yeah, by default, that was already a setting

01:08:11 ◼   ► that you could do, but now it's by default.

01:08:12 ◼   ► So like, I got a Slack message from Stephen Hackett

01:08:15 ◼   ► while we were doing this, and it just shows up,

01:08:18 ◼   ► if I tapped to wake, it just shows up as a Slack message

01:08:20 ◼   ► and it says Slack message from Stephen Hackett,

01:08:23 ◼   ► but it doesn't show me the message.

01:08:24 ◼   ► And then I picked up the phone to look at it

01:08:26 ◼   ► and it Face ID unlocked still at the lock screen

01:08:30 ◼   ► and revealed the content of the message on unlock,

01:08:35 ◼   ► which is pretty cool.

01:08:40 ◼   ► The other place that I've noticed face detection

01:08:43 ◼   ► outside of Animoji is in the screen lock setting,

01:08:48 ◼   ► like 30 seconds of inactivity to do screen locking.

01:08:52 ◼   ► It uses attention detection on that.

01:08:56 ◼   ► So if you're sitting on your phone and after 30 seconds,

01:09:00 ◼   ► it's gonna dim because you're not actually looking,

01:09:03 ◼   ► you're not actually interacting with it.

01:09:06 ◼   ► If you're still looking at it, it won't dim the phone

01:09:10 ◼   ► 'cause it knows you're looking at the phone.

01:09:13 ◼   ► Why would you turn off the screen

01:09:15 ◼   ► when you're looking at content on an unlocked iPhone.

01:09:18 ◼   ► And so it won't, it just won't do that,

01:09:21 ◼   ► which is something you can do when you're,

01:09:24 ◼   ► literally the phone is aware of whether it's being watched.

01:09:27 ◼   ► - And how do purchases in the App Store work?

01:09:29 ◼   ► 'Cause you know, you usually, you'd press buy

01:09:31 ◼   ► and then scan your thumbprint.

01:09:33 ◼   ► Like how is it doing that?

01:09:35 ◼   ► 'Cause I'm always looking at it,

01:09:36 ◼   ► so how is it authorizing the purchase?

01:09:38 ◼   ► - It basically is the same workflow

01:09:40 ◼   ► as on the previous ones,

01:09:41 ◼   ► where you know, you've got that Apple Pay-like thing.

01:09:45 ◼   ► That's not actually Apple Pay because Apple,

01:09:47 ◼   ► the App Store doesn't take Apple Pay because reasons.

01:09:52 ◼   ► Anyway, so you basically double tap the side,

01:09:55 ◼   ► which is the Apple Pay gesture.

01:09:57 ◼   ► And then it does a face ID scan.

01:09:59 ◼   ► So that's how you confirm,

01:10:02 ◼   ► 'cause you don't wanna just say,

01:10:03 ◼   ► "Oh, I see your face, I'll just charge your account."

01:10:05 ◼   ► - Yeah, 'cause yeah, that doesn't work.

01:10:07 ◼   ► That's not how it works. - That's not good.

01:10:09 ◼   ► So it has you do the little double tap Apple Pay gesture,

01:10:13 ◼   ► even though it's not Apple Pay.

01:10:14 ◼   ► and then it checks that it's you and it's a done deal.

01:10:18 ◼   ► - So we spoke about Animoji a little bit at the top

01:10:20 ◼   ► and kind of pip it through and you know, you say,

01:10:23 ◼   ► right, so like this seems like a really impressive feature

01:10:25 ◼   ► technologically and from an animation perspective.

01:10:28 ◼   ► Is this something you think that you'll use?

01:10:30 ◼   ► Like can you see yourself using Animoji?

01:10:32 ◼   ► - Well, yeah.

01:10:36 ◼   ► I think it's more likely gonna be stickers

01:10:40 ◼   ► than anything else with funny expressions.

01:10:42 ◼   ► - Yeah, 'cause you can, you can what?

01:10:44 ◼   ► you can make a face and then turn it into a sticker, right?

01:10:46 ◼   ► - 'Cause I'm not sure I just wanna send people movies

01:10:49 ◼   ► of like me talking with an animal face, right?

01:10:53 ◼   ► I like, I'm not sure I wanna do that,

01:10:55 ◼   ► but I like the idea of making a,

01:10:57 ◼   ► sort of like making my own expression

01:10:59 ◼   ► that the face is a mask that I wear

01:11:01 ◼   ► and then I make an expression.

01:11:02 ◼   ► It doesn't necessarily even need to match

01:11:04 ◼   ► the existing emoji expressions.

01:11:07 ◼   ► And then I can send that off.

01:11:08 ◼   ► I think that's probably more likely gonna be the case

01:11:11 ◼   ► then that I'm going to be sending those Animoji messages. I'm not convinced in the long term

01:11:16 ◼   ► if this isn't more like, you know, like other iMessage apps and stickers and things where

01:11:20 ◼   ► it's a fun thing for people to do and it'll be novel and then some people will keep using

01:11:24 ◼   ► it and everybody else will stop using it, but it's very cool technology. I, you know,

01:11:29 ◼   ► I didn't lead with it in my review because while it is adorable and I think the animations

01:11:34 ◼   ► are really great and I think everybody's going to be sending Animoji messages for the first

01:11:39 ◼   ► few weeks that they have an iPhone 10. In the long run, I don't know. I mean, I was

01:11:44 ◼   ► actually thinking I would rather, um, uh, what about things like an emoji picker where

01:11:51 ◼   ► you pick, where you say, I want the smiley face and you know, the, the, the, the circular

01:11:55 ◼   ► circle yellow face, and then you give a, a facial expression and it picks the emoji that's

01:12:00 ◼   ► closest to that and just sends that like an actual emoji. I think someone could build

01:12:03 ◼   ► that. I think probably someone will build that. I hope that they do. Cause that sounds

01:12:07 ◼   ► like a fun demo, right? Like even if you don't use it, like that sounds like a fun little

01:12:10 ◼   ► keyboard to have. I think that's something somebody could build.

01:12:14 ◼   ► And I can't, I also like, uh, you know, will there be more Animoji characters down the

01:12:18 ◼   ► road? Maybe so, because obviously it's, it's hard to do it because you've got to do a lot

01:12:22 ◼   ► of character animation, but that would be fun too. So, you know, maybe I also, you know,

01:12:27 ◼   ► they've only got it down as this sort of like 10 seconds with sound kind of thing. And I

01:12:31 ◼   ► wonder if there's some variation that can be done in terms of like, could you turn that

01:12:36 ◼   ► into like an animation that has no sound that you can just do a really quick like three

01:12:42 ◼   ► second animation and send that instead because I feel like that would be less intrusive than

01:12:49 ◼   ► a video with audio to send like an animation.

01:12:53 ◼   ► So the stickers then adjust static, they're not moving stickers?

01:12:58 ◼   ► Yeah I think they're just static.

01:12:59 ◼   ► I think you basically pose and then drag it out or tap to send it as a stick.

01:13:05 ◼   ► I mean you can have moving stickers so I hope that they find a way to make that happen for an emoji

01:13:09 ◼   ► That'd be nice almost like live

01:13:11 ◼   ► Animoji yeah kind of thing where you you do a little thing and then it turns it into an animated sticker

01:13:16 ◼   ► Yeah, I don't think that is something that exists right now

01:13:18 ◼   ► So I have a couple of little things left to round this out first off the camera. Is this what you'd expect?

01:13:24 ◼   ► What what is different with this camera to the iPhone 8 camera the big things are?

01:13:30 ◼   ► it's a

01:13:32 ◼   ► optical image stabilization on both

01:13:34 ◼   ► which the plus does not have.

01:13:38 ◼   ► - So this is both back lenses, right?

01:13:40 ◼   ► - Both of the back lenses.

01:13:41 ◼   ► So it's got OIS on the telephoto

01:13:44 ◼   ► as well as on the wide angle,

01:13:46 ◼   ► which the eight plus does not.

01:13:48 ◼   ► - Okay.

01:13:50 ◼   ► - And then what else?

01:13:52 ◼   ► It's got a wider aperture,

01:13:56 ◼   ► the telephoto does on the 10 than the eight.

01:13:58 ◼   ► Otherwise it's pretty much the same.

01:14:01 ◼   ► There are a lot of things that are shared, right?

01:14:03 ◼   ► glass back, although it's not exactly the same, it's pretty close. The selfie camera

01:14:09 ◼   ► itself is the same. The rear-facing wide angle is basically the same. The telephoto is a

01:14:15 ◼   ► little bit better. So the chip is the same. This is not using a faster A11 bionic, right?

01:14:23 ◼   ► It is the same chip. It uses the machine learning part of it more because of the Face ID stuff,

01:14:30 ◼   ► it's the same chip, the same speed. I ran Geekbench on both the 8 and the 10, and they're

01:14:36 ◼   ► the same. So it has a lot of things in common. Of course, nobody's upgrading from the 8--well,

01:14:41 ◼   ► there was somebody out there who was upgrading from the 8 to the 10, and they bought an 8,

01:14:44 ◼   ► and then three weeks later they're going to get a 10. Okay, fair. But 99% of people will

01:14:48 ◼   ► be upgrading from a previous model. That's true, although that's the review unit on my

01:14:52 ◼   ► real one, but it is most of what is in the 8 plus some things that are unique to the 10.

01:15:03 ◼   ► So it shares a lot of the advances that the 8 had. The wireless charging, the inductive charging,

01:15:09 ◼   ► is another example of that. The processor is the same. The camera, the zoom camera,

01:15:17 ◼   ► the telephoto camera is subtly better, but not dramatically, just subtly better,

01:15:23 ◼   ► lets in a little more light. It has the OIS, which actually means that in low-light settings,

01:15:28 ◼   ► where sometimes on the plus models, when you're zooming in in a low-light setting,

01:15:34 ◼   ► even though you're zoomed in, the software will actually keep that zoom, but it'll actually flip

01:15:41 ◼   ► over to the other camera. I don't know if you knew this, but this is something that happens

01:15:45 ◼   ► sometimes is you're zoomed in with a, what you think is an optical zoom, but it's kind of dark.

01:15:50 ◼   ► - Yeah. - And it'll be like,

01:15:51 ◼   ► I'm gonna use a digital zoom instead on the other camera because it's got image stabilization. And

01:15:59 ◼   ► so it's gonna be a better image, even though it's a digital zoom because of the image stabilization.

01:16:06 ◼   ► On this camera, they both have image stabilization. So that'll be, you'll get better kind of low light

01:16:11 ◼   ► stuff going on. - So it's not doing the swapping.

01:16:13 ◼   ► - I think, I mean, it may, but it has less reason to.

01:16:18 ◼   ► And then let's not forget, the biggest thing here is,

01:16:21 ◼   ► if you're somebody like me, who has never bought a Plus phone

01:16:24 ◼   ► because they're too big for them,

01:16:26 ◼   ► this is the first small sized-ish iPhone

01:16:31 ◼   ► to have the two cameras set up.

01:16:33 ◼   ► So I'm gonna have the two cameras set up in my pocket

01:16:35 ◼   ► every day for the first time, which is very exciting.

01:16:38 ◼   ► - Yeah, it's a great life, I'll tell you that.

01:16:40 ◼   ► (laughing)

01:16:42 ◼   ► last thing now I'm only asking this because people want me to ask it and I'm

01:16:46 ◼   ► sure you don't have a good enough answer for it yet but I'm gonna ask it anyway

01:16:50 ◼   ► that's a great reason that's a great reason people want to know is a great

01:16:53 ◼   ► reason to ask a question battery life

01:16:57 ◼   ► well Myke I'm happy to report that I've had the phone for less than 24 hours and

01:17:01 ◼   ► I haven't run out of battery because I've kept it charged I have nothing to

01:17:05 ◼   ► report I wanted to ask it because people will wonder why we didn't but I know you

01:17:10 ◼   ► you haven't had enough time and also the first set up of a phone kills the battery like it's

01:17:15 ◼   ► not a good test. We'll report back on that next week.

01:17:18 ◼   ► Because it's doing spotlight indexing and it's downloading apps and the whole thing

01:17:21 ◼   ► it got it was definitely when it was doing the restore it was chewing through battery

01:17:25 ◼   ► life so that's going to be a long term thing to watch given that Apple is confident enough

01:17:30 ◼   ► to quote two extra hours of battery life and Matthew Panzarino who had the phone for a

01:17:35 ◼   ► while he had it for a week at TechCrunch. Panzer says that it lasted longer for sure.

01:17:42 ◼   ► And I read I think the BuzzFeed review Nicole said that it was interesting the way she phrased

01:17:50 ◼   ► it which is like you can't get through two days with it but you can get through more

01:17:53 ◼   ► than one day was her takeaway which is awesome if that's if that's the case. It sounds like

01:17:58 ◼   ► there's more that there's more you know this is not a two-day phone battery but we may

01:18:03 ◼   ► be getting to the point where with the X, it really truly is an all-day battery.

01:18:07 ◼   ► All right, so I mean this is kind of it for the review. Is there anything you wanted to

01:18:12 ◼   ► add? I don't know. I mean you read my review while

01:18:15 ◼   ► I was sleeping. Sure did.

01:18:18 ◼   ► More app updates will help. That's some of what's going on here.

01:18:22 ◼   ► And we're going to know more about that over the next few days, right? Some of those apps

01:18:25 ◼   ► are going to start to come out over the next few days. Obviously, we'll have more to say

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01:18:34 ◼   ► and we'll have had a long weekend with it so there will be more about this next week.

01:18:39 ◼   ► Now of course we did have our listeners send us in Ask Upgrade Questions and I have a selection

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01:20:58 ◼   ► Infrared dots.

01:20:59 ◼   ► Yeah, that's what it is now. Lee wants to know, Jason, have you had any accidental touches

01:21:06 ◼   ► with the palm of your hand as you hold the device? Because, you know, maybe your hand

01:21:09 ◼   ► is like stretching over to the screen more than it would normally. Have you noticed anything

01:21:14 ◼   ► like this?

01:21:15 ◼   ► Nope.

01:21:16 ◼   ► Okay, great.

01:21:17 ◼   ► Nothing.

01:21:18 ◼   ► They've learned how to do this with the iPad over time.

01:21:22 ◼   ► James wants to know, "Do screenshots of the iPhone X

01:21:25 ◼   ► black out the notch in the rounded corners,

01:21:26 ◼   ► or are they just rectangle squares with everything there?"

01:21:30 ◼   ► - They are complete rectangles,

01:21:32 ◼   ► which means the notch is not there,

01:21:34 ◼   ► nor are the rounded corners,

01:21:36 ◼   ► 'cause if I didn't mention it earlier,

01:21:38 ◼   ► the other thing about this is that there are lots

01:21:40 ◼   ► of rounded edges to this phone.

01:21:43 ◼   ► It is not perfectly square.

01:21:44 ◼   ► The screen ends in these rounded edges

01:21:47 ◼   ► that match the rounded edges of the device.

01:21:50 ◼   ► But when you take a screenshot, it's a rectangle,

01:21:53 ◼   ► which is why, like, if you look at my video,

01:21:54 ◼   ► what I ended up doing was taking a photo of the iPhone,

01:21:57 ◼   ► emptying out, basically, erasing the screen portion

01:22:03 ◼   ► and making that transparent

01:22:05 ◼   ► so that I could put my screen recordings behind it

01:22:09 ◼   ► and have it look like it looks on the phone,

01:22:11 ◼   ► because the raw screen recording or screenshot

01:22:16 ◼   ► will be rectangular and you'll miss the notch and you'll miss the curves in the corners.

01:22:20 ◼   ► Kyle wants to know how does the steel feel in the hand compared to the aluminium? How do those two

01:22:28 ◼   ► materials kind of stack up when you're holding them? Well the the the aluminium is um is like the

01:22:38 ◼   ► I don't know it's it's less shiny right it's this it's less shiny and less tacky because it's um

01:22:45 ◼   ► because it's that aluminum feel that Apple does so well, the stainless steel doesn't feel like that.

01:22:51 ◼   ► It's like going from an aluminum Apple Watch to a stainless steel Apple Watch, basically.

01:22:57 ◼   ► It is much smoother, and it's a little more grippy because it's so smooth that your fingers

01:23:04 ◼   ► just kind of like stick on it a little bit more. - The stainless steel is more grippy, you're saying?

01:23:08 ◼   ► - Yes, you're right, whereas the aluminum's got that kind of soft feel because it's been blasted by

01:23:13 ◼   ► whatever they blasted with little beads or whatever to give it that feel so it's it's a different

01:23:18 ◼   ► um it's it's a shiny instead of matte basically i think i would say in in terms of the feel but

01:23:25 ◼   ► looks great how grippy is the glass back versus the jet black aluminium asks me here

01:23:30 ◼   ► i'd say that they're comparable okay um i think i think this is any eight right i mean i think

01:23:35 ◼   ► i think they're all pretty pretty comparable um the aluminum frames may be a little less grippy

01:23:42 ◼   ► because they are that blasted aluminum,

01:23:45 ◼   ► and so they're a little bit less tacky,

01:23:50 ◼   ► whereas this thing is the stainless,

01:23:53 ◼   ► is more like the grippiness of the glass.

01:23:56 ◼   ► So it's got more in common with that.

01:24:00 ◼   ► So that's, yeah, that's my take on it.

01:24:02 ◼   ► - Paul has asked, "Is there a setting

01:24:04 ◼   ► to allow the iPhone to unlock

01:24:05 ◼   ► and go straight to the home screen

01:24:07 ◼   ► rather than having to swipe up on the lock screen?"

01:24:10 ◼   ► - So I asked about this,

01:24:11 ◼   ► And I think the answer is no,

01:24:13 ◼   ► although I was kind of hoping that there was a,

01:24:19 ◼   ► that there was a-

01:24:20 ◼   ► - An accessibility setting?

01:24:21 ◼   ► - An accessibility feature, but I don't think there is.

01:24:25 ◼   ► - Okay.

01:24:26 ◼   ► - And you know, the reason Apple doesn't wanna do that

01:24:29 ◼   ► is that Apple wants you to be able

01:24:32 ◼   ► to look at your notifications.

01:24:34 ◼   ► - Sure.

01:24:35 ◼   ► - And use that interface,

01:24:35 ◼   ► 'cause that's a useful interface too.

01:24:37 ◼   ► Like app picking isn't the only thing you do

01:24:40 ◼   ► when you pick up your phone.

01:24:43 ◼   ► Sometimes you look at what your notifications are,

01:24:45 ◼   ► and they built that notification interface

01:24:47 ◼   ► to be pretty robust.

01:24:49 ◼   ► So, and it's got widgets and all that stuff.

01:24:52 ◼   ► And those widgets now, when you look at them,

01:24:54 ◼   ► are unlocked, right?

01:24:56 ◼   ► They, if you tap them, they will just,

01:24:58 ◼   ► like notifications too,

01:24:59 ◼   ► they'll just take you where you need to go,

01:25:00 ◼   ► 'cause you're looking at the phone,

01:25:01 ◼   ► face ID's already unlocked the phone.

01:25:03 ◼   ► So you look at a notification and tap it,

01:25:05 ◼   ► and you don't get one of those,

01:25:06 ◼   ► oh yeah, you need to put your fingerprint on the glass

01:25:08 ◼   ► before we continue.

01:25:09 ◼   ► Instead it just opens and moves along its way.

01:25:11 ◼   ► So I haven't seen a place where you can get it to

01:25:15 ◼   ► just jump to the home screen.

01:25:18 ◼   ► I'm a little surprised by that, but there it is.

01:25:23 ◼   ► - Andrew wants to know, in your experience,

01:25:26 ◼   ► does Face ID work well outside and in bright rooms?

01:25:29 ◼   ► Neil I. Patel at The Verge had issues with this himself.

01:25:32 ◼   ► - I have used it more inside and in dark rooms

01:25:35 ◼   ► than outside and bright rooms.

01:25:36 ◼   ► I need to spend more time.

01:25:37 ◼   ► I gotta go walk the dog.

01:25:38 ◼   ► So I will try it and report back and we will see.

01:25:43 ◼   ► Yeah, I would imagine that if you're backlit brightly

01:25:46 ◼   ► by the sun or something like that,

01:25:48 ◼   ► it might have a challenge even with the infrared

01:25:50 ◼   ► of having you be kind of swamped.

01:25:52 ◼   ► But I haven't experienced a touch or a face ID failure yet,

01:25:57 ◼   ► but I have not.

01:25:59 ◼   ► I've been doing a lot of stuff here at my desk

01:26:03 ◼   ► and not out in the world,

01:26:04 ◼   ► which I will be doing hopefully soon.

01:26:07 ◼   ► Mr. Espresso asks, "Which screen is better for just reading text in something like Instapaper

01:26:11 ◼   ► or iBooks?

01:26:12 ◼   ► Is the OLED of the X or the LCD of the 8 Plus what's more comfortable?"

01:26:16 ◼   ► - Mr. Espresso.

01:26:17 ◼   ► Is this Federico?

01:26:18 ◼   ► - No, actually.

01:26:20 ◼   ► This is the best I could get from their Twitter account.

01:26:22 ◼   ► - I like contrast, and the nice thing about the OLED is that the blacks are really black

01:26:26 ◼   ► and the whites are really white, so you should be able to get a very contrasty thing.

01:26:29 ◼   ► It's also much higher resolution, which means that the text should be clearer.

01:26:33 ◼   ► It is OLED and not LCD and those are not exactly the same but my guess is they're both fine.

01:26:39 ◼   ► They're both great.

01:26:40 ◼   ► I'm not sure one is going to be better than the other.

01:26:42 ◼   ► The OLED might be better but it might not matter.

01:26:46 ◼   ► I've read things on both of them.

01:26:48 ◼   ► They both seem great.

01:26:51 ◼   ► And finally Matt asked "I have a 5S so any upgrade is going to be a big for me.

01:26:55 ◼   ► What features should push me towards the 10 instead of the 8+?"

01:27:03 ◼   ► 8 Plus, okay, that makes a difference

01:27:06 ◼   ► 'cause I was gonna say dual camera, but that's not it.

01:27:08 ◼   ► So what features should push you toward the 10?

01:27:10 ◼   ► The screen being bigger, big high resolution screen,

01:27:16 ◼   ► the 8 Plus has a nice big screen too,

01:27:19 ◼   ► but this is a nicer screen.

01:27:21 ◼   ► And Face ID, sort of like going,

01:27:26 ◼   ► not having to worry about it at all

01:27:28 ◼   ► and just it locks when it sees you.

01:27:30 ◼   ► but you know as we wrap this episode up it's worth saying this is a $999 US

01:27:36 ◼   ► dollar phone. This is a pricey phone. My review is that you know

01:27:41 ◼   ► tomorrow's iPhone today. This is what they're doing. We theorized about it when

01:27:45 ◼   ► the rumors about this phone were out there earlier this year and this is the

01:27:49 ◼   ► case. You're buying the cutting-edge first generation of a whole new

01:27:53 ◼   ► way of thinking about the iPhone and you're going to pay a premium for it. And

01:27:57 ◼   ► And if things like Face ID and having the smaller device but still has the dual cameras

01:28:04 ◼   ► and the OLED display, which is very, very nice, if those are like, "Well, those are

01:28:09 ◼   ► nice but is it worth another $150?" if you start to have those questions, or I guess

01:28:14 ◼   ► it's the A+ right? So it's not quite... There's still a gap there, right? Is it $150? I don't

01:28:22 ◼   ► know what it is. But everybody's going to have to decide for themselves. The iPhone

01:28:28 ◼   ► X is not a phone every person who has an iPhone should by default buy, right? I mean, like,

01:28:33 ◼   ► you need to look at what it offers versus what the 8 and 8 Plus offer and make a decision

01:28:38 ◼   ► about whether it's worth the extra money. And I will also say, as I said when I reviewed

01:28:42 ◼   ► the iPhone 8, which I also—we didn't even talk about that—I wrote a review of the

01:28:46 ◼   ► iPhone 8 last week, after all this time, because I spent time with it and I was thinking about

01:28:51 ◼   ► it. And the short version of that review is, for a lot of people, like, the 8 is

01:28:56 ◼   ► going to be a great update from the 6 or the 6s. It's going to be a great update

01:28:59 ◼   ► and it's going to be really familiar. It's going to be the same shape, it's going to

01:29:02 ◼   ► be the same iPhone. My wife has the has the 8 now and it's like, it's really

01:29:07 ◼   ► great, it's fast, it's the size and shape and behavior that she expects

01:29:11 ◼   ► from an iPhone. The iPhone X is not that, right? It's not quite the right size, it's

01:29:16 ◼   ► not the right behavior, it's got a lot of new stuff in it. And so it's not for

01:29:20 ◼   ► everyone. For our audience it's probably for a lot more than you'd expect and

01:29:25 ◼   ► then you gotta look at the price because it's expensive and those features may

01:29:28 ◼   ► not be worth it and over time those features will probably come down to the

01:29:32 ◼   ► rest of the product line but that's the future. Today it's the high-end

01:29:37 ◼   ► cutting-edge iPhone and so you have to decide yourself whether you want to

01:29:41 ◼   ► be a part of that or if you want to save some money and get something that's got

01:29:45 ◼   ► a lot of the same features, not all, but a lot of them, and is in a much more

01:29:51 ◼   ► familiar package.

01:29:54 ◼   ► Alright, that's it for us. Upgrade today. I wanted, just before we go, to have a little bit of follow-up.

01:29:59 ◼   ► Just one quick thing on iPhone X bumper cases. So I mentioned that that's what

01:30:03 ◼   ► I'm looking for. I want a bumper case for my iPhone X. And three

01:30:08 ◼   ► listeners sent in three different cases to me. So, Rapscallion sent in a case by

01:30:12 ◼   ► Incase called the frame, Will sent in the Rhino Shield crash guard and Kai sent in the

01:30:19 ◼   ► dbrand grip. These are all bumper like cases that are coming for a couple of phones including

01:30:25 ◼   ► the iPhone 10. The one that I want out of all of these is the Incase frame so I'm keeping

01:30:30 ◼   ► my eye out for when that's going to be available for me here in the UK. That's the case that

01:30:34 ◼   ► I want I think. It looks really nice. I know that Incase do good stuff and it's a bumper

01:30:38 ◼   ► case which is exactly what I want. So it would be a shame to not see the stainless steel

01:30:41 ◼   ► but that's probably what I'm gonna go with if I go for a case. I honestly hope

01:30:45 ◼   ► that I won't want to have any case on it like I'm gonna feel comfortable in

01:30:49 ◼   ► holding it. I am going to buy AppleCare+ because the screen replacements are so expensive.

01:30:53 ◼   ► I was gonna mention that the the replacements for the screen and the

01:30:56 ◼   ► glass and all of that on this are much more than on other iPhones. Much more to

01:31:03 ◼   ► the point where even even me, even the guy who never buys AppleCare, I'm

01:31:07 ◼   ► thinking I'll probably buy AppleCare for my for my X. Like because it's like

01:31:11 ◼   ► - It's too much.

01:31:12 ◼   ► - It's $279 for the screen, $549 for the back,

01:31:17 ◼   ► out of warranty.

01:31:19 ◼   ► I think this is because of the charging stuff.

01:31:22 ◼   ► I think that's why it's so expensive.

01:31:23 ◼   ► So yeah, Stephen Hackett did a good kind of,

01:31:26 ◼   ► he put some charts together on Fido.

01:31:27 ◼   ► - Scary.

01:31:28 ◼   ► - So I'm gonna get it.

01:31:29 ◼   ► - He sold a lot of Apple Cares with that story.

01:31:31 ◼   ► - I bet he did, he should have gotten affiliate for that.

01:31:34 ◼   ► That's why I'm buying it, 'cause of those charts.

01:31:36 ◼   ► All right, so thank you so much for listening

01:31:38 ◼   ► to this week's episode of Upgrade.

01:31:40 ◼   ► we hope that you've enjoyed it. We're going to be continuing our iPhone X coverage next

01:31:44 ◼   ► week as we will both have had time to spend with the devices hopefully knock on wood that

01:31:49 ◼   ► I will get one we'll see we'll see who knows nobody knows and if you want to get involved

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01:32:21 ◼   ► can go and read his review, which you should, and I'm sure Jason you're going to have more

01:32:25 ◼   ► coverage of the iPhone X over the next couple of days I would expect.

01:32:29 ◼   ► I guess. Your guess is a good mind. It's unknown what you're going to say, right, because you've

01:32:33 ◼   ► written the review but I'm sure there'll be things that you all want to talk about

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