195: The WWDC Keynote Draft 2018
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From Relay FM, this is Upgrade Episode 195, the third annual WWDC draft.
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Today's show is brought to you by Pingdom, PDF Pen 10 from Smile, ButcherBox, and Skillshare.
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My name is Myke Hurley and I am joined by my draft compatriot, Mr. Jason Snell.
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Hello, Mr. Myke Hurley, how are you?
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I am very well indeed, very well indeed, because we are drafting today, of course.
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It is time because WWDC is next week, so it is draft time this week.
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How is that possible?
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Yeah, we have some things to get through first.
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And we will begin with our #snowtalk question for this week, and that comes from Steve.
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And Jason, Steve wants to know, over the years when you've been going to WWDC keynotes,
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has your seating gotten any better? Like have you moved closer to the stage over the years?
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And also do you seek a particular spot next to a friend or are there people you try and seek out
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to sit with when you're watching the keynotes? So the way it works, so back in the day where
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Macworld Expo was a thing, because that was run by IDG, we got, IDG got some seats that were like
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the- You sit backstage, sit wherever you want! That was the, I couldn't sit backstage because
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'Cause Apple controlled that event.
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Apple in the later days especially,
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Apple controlled that event.
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But because it was IDG, we got,
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there were some IDG badges and I got some of those
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in the last few years of Mac World Expo
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when Apple was there.
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And so that was great because there are a few keynotes
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where I was in the front row, which is the best.
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- So over the time you've actually had a seating downgrade.
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Yeah, well at WWDC it was a constant upgrade at Macworld Expo. At WWDC and other Apple
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media events, WWDC is slightly different because the media group is only a part of the group
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and obviously the developers are the other part of the group. So the audience is a little
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bit different and as a result actually WWDC seating for media is worse because they want
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to have a lot of cheering developers right up front in addition to the Apple VIPs. And
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so we kind of get shunted off to the side. Fair enough. Fair enough. So I would say I
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don't think my seating has gotten better. Generally how it works is we all are milling
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about in a space for the media that's separate as any developer listening will know because
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and you'll see it again next week. These members of the media turn up and you've been waiting
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in line since four in the morning and the members of the media like stumble up at 830
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or nine in the morning and are ushered right in to their separate line and they wait in
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their separate space. It's true. I feel bad about it, but I also don't want to be out
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there at four in the morning. So, we mill about in our area at the McHenry Convention
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Center last year. They actually took us in and took us upstairs to where the entryway
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was pretty well in advance. And then they actually loaded us, they load us before they
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load the attendees in that case because there are so many attendees and it takes them a
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long time to load them in. So we're often, I think we were loaded in like an hour at
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least before the show started last year. So that'll probably happen again. Pro tip, don't
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drink a lot of orange juice and tea and stuff that Apple provides for media members before
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you go in because you're going to be in there a very long time. And where's the bathroom?
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Who knows? Will you be able to get back? Maybe not. Just don't do it. Anyway, so in terms
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of being your friend, you know, you run into people, you know, obviously I see people I
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know I ran into Mark Gurman. I ran into John Gruber. I ran into Renee Richie. I ran into
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Serenity Caldwell at WWC last year. We're all chatting and what happens is you just
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kind of move from person to person. You're chatting and then at some point the stampede
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begins, right? Which is the doors begin to open or somebody comes through and says, can
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you know, can you move toward the doors? We're about to open it up and at that point you
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like you're going down aisles, you're probably not running, although I'm sure somebody runs,
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because that's a little bit silly, and they point you at where you're allowed to sit,
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and this is one of the challenges that you have is like you think, "Okay, we're going
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here, we're in good shape," and then they're like, "Yeah, you can't come down here, you
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got to turn, you got to go down to the left further, and then over, and then you can sit,"
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and then, you know, it's not orderly in that moment. It is literally like people are just
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kind of like going into a row, "Do I want to have a worse seat further up? Oh, that
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seats saved, oh now I've lost that, I need to back up. So that part's chaotic. So in
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the end, I often sit with a friend because it's whoever I was with sort of as we began
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to move into the venue itself in the theater part. And sometimes we will like, somebody
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will get in a row and they know they were with three or four people and they'll sort
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of save those seats and wave them over and then they'll get in there. I've also had it
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where I'm sitting next to nobody I know.
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And it really, but usually near people I know,
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if not right next to them.
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And it just, you know, that's just sort of how it goes.
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Like I was right next to Serenity and Renee in Chicago
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with, there was a group or somebody else was very close,
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but not right next to us.
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So yeah, that's how it works.
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It's a little chaotic.
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It is nice to sit with friends and colleagues.
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if you can and sometimes you can't.
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Thank you so much to Steve for sending in that question, it was a great opener for this
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week's show.
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If you would like to send in a question to open up a future episode of Upgrade, just
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send out a tweet with the hashtag SnellTalk and we collect them up for future use.
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So let's talk about WWDC then as we're recording this right now we are quite literally
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one week away almost exactly to you walking into that room.
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Yeah almost exactly.
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A week from now as we record this, I will be at that convention center, possibly in
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line, possibly in the room right now.
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Here we are.
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And I'll be getting set up in a hotel room with everything set.
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I'll have all of my equipment with me, I'll have my scorecard for the draft, I'll have
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everything all set, I'll be ready and waiting, probably with a coffee in hand, to mark everything
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off and kind of keep my hand on the control center.
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But going into WWDC this year, there have not been any leaks of any specificity or detail
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We don't really know anything.
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That has made the draft a little bit more interesting this year because there isn't
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really anything substantial.
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The most that we've had is kind of just like, "Oh, it's going to be quieter and they're
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going to focus on notifications maybe and they might do parental control stuff maybe.
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That's kind of like all there's been. There haven't been any significant leaks. As we
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record this right now, I mean, we have some, you know, kind of we are in red alert over
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the next couple of days, really?
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And this is what happens is we often do these drafts and then in the intervening week, things
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emerge. But that's also good. Like we're doing it at a point where we're sort of picking
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based on the kind of broad knowledge of what might be there, what has been rumored and
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all that, but without those things that sometimes leak right at the start. I have to admit,
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Myke, looking through our draft list, I started to think of proposing a new rule, which is
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if you make a good faith effort to pick things that you think might be chosen, and literally
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none of them are chosen, you win. Like, to shoot the moon, but I don't think we should
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I think the judgment on that would need multiple adjudicators. That's an additional complication.
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Yeah, I do think that somebody is going to get like the golden turkey or something if
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they get a score of zero. And it's not impossible that we could get a score of zero because
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we are, yeah, we don't know a lot. The doubling down on secrecy perhaps, you know, Apple has
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been, for all of the details that people like Mark Gurman get, they definitely are making
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efforts and we talked about them on this show to show employees that they're
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investigating people and they get people in trouble and they lose their jobs and
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they can be investigated by the police and all these things and it does feel
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like stuff has dried up to a certain extent.
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Also keep in mind that the meat and potatoes of WWDC is not hardware.
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Hardware is complicated because there's a very long supply chain. There are suppliers
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of parts and manufacturing that happens and it is a huge numbers of people are
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involved outside of Cupertino in all of that. And as a result, hardware stuff
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tends to leak, even if they try to keep it a super secret, like the iPhone would
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be a perfect example. If there's any product Apple would like to keep a
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secret until the moment it's released, it's the iPhone. They can't. They just
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can't. There are always going to be leaks about the iPhone because of that supply
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chain. But software is the meat and potatoes of WWDC, and what that means is
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software is a much more constrained group. It's generally just people who
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work at Apple, mostly in Cupertino, and occasionally they'll bring in a third-party app developer
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and have them be under serious NDA, and often they are working on their app in the building
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in Cupertino, not back home. And so it's much more lockdown. And as a result, WWDC is generally
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a little more surprising and a little more secretive than hardware events. But still,
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one feels like the most mysterious agenda that we've had in a while.
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Also you've kind of got two ways of thinking about this, right? If we don't know anything
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at this stage, one of two things is happening. Either A) it's a sleeper year, there's nothing
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happening, or B) they've done a very good job of keeping the leaks under control up
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to this point. So if you were going to put kind of your your money on on something right
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like if you were going to say you know put a stake in the ground do you think that it's
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which one of those are you leaning towards that is that's going to be a real quiet year
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with nothing much announced or that we kind of don't know anything yet which one do you
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think it is? I think it's a I think it's a bit of both really I suspect that if I had
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to put money down I would say it's not nothing but it's going to be a collection of maybe
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smaller items, none of which really rose to the point where they became spread enough
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to generate a rumor, generate a leak or anything like that. So I don't think it's going to
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be one of those that's so quiet that it's just like this is a really boring year and
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Apple didn't do anything at the developer conference and it turns out that they didn't
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need to even bother inviting people other than developers to it, but I don't think it'll
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be that. But I also suspect that maybe it will be a year without some sort of mind-blowing
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marquee like, "Whoa, they're adding this thing," or, "They did this thing." I think maybe that's
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where we'll see what has been sold to us as kind of bug fixes and incremental updates
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and performance tuning and all, you know, improve stability and usability and like all
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those unglamorous things. I don't think it will necessarily be that like Apple have a
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big slide that says, you know, bug fixes, right? I don't think that's necessarily going
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to happen. If you think so, you can pick that in the draft. But I, um, but I do think that
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the, the net result will be a whole bunch of features that they'll say are amazing,
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but that none of which are like the ones that we usually think of as, as the ones that blow
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us away. Like where, you know, WWDC 2017, it was constant blowing away for two hours,
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right? Like they kept surprising us with lots and lots of interesting things and cool things.
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And I will say there were a lot of surprises in that keynote last year, so it is very possible
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that there will be surprises again this year. But I think I'm leaning towards what you said,
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that it's not going to be as big as last year, but there's a lot we don't know yet. And I
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I guess, you know, we're gonna wait and see. I mean, like, look at something like Swift
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in 2016, like, completely out of the field, right?
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So, you know.
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- Right. And that's the kind of thing. I think there will be a surprise or two like that,
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but I just don't think it's gonna be... And part of this is the power of reporting, and
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we'll see, you know, Mark Gurman's sources have been very good. We'll see if they're
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still very good. A few months ago, Mark Gurman said there's a whole bunch of stuff that they're
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not going to do. And his story was basically like, Apple felt like it was biting off more
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than it could chew in terms of OS development. And so it was going to take some stuff that
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it was working really hard to get in this year's release and it was punting it into
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2019 because they just felt like it was too much. And he listed off a whole bunch of things,
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including iPad features and a redesigned home screen and all these things, and he said,
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are not happening. We'll see. But the impression you get from that is that the iOS and macOS
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releases will be a lot less ambitious than maybe they were going to be. It doesn't mean
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that there aren't things in there that are still going to be impressive and that may
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even surprise us. But everything is tempered by that report, I think, because that report
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was saying don't get your hopes up for massive items being announced in the OS part of WWDC
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they're trying to be a little more disciplined about delivering what they promised because
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of course last year they announced some stuff that still hasn't shipped and that's they
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didn't used to do that so it's been a while since Apple completely whiffed on some features
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that they announced were going to be in the OS and then never they're about to be lapped.
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- Yeah which is kind of weird so we're both gonna be in San Jose for WWDC I'm gonna be
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there all week. You're going to be there for the majority of week, I believe, right? You're
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going to be going to be in and around town. Yeah. So there will be obviously be a few
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things that we're going to be attending. Obviously, if you see us around town, please come up
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and say hi. We'd love that kind of thing. If you if you are going to be around. We're
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both going to be taking a part of taking part in, I should say, the Relay FM live show,
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which is on June 6th, Wednesday the 6th, which is all sold out. We hope that we're going
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to see you there. We're looking forward to that. But if you are looking for activities
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to do during the week. I'm going to put a link in the show notes to an article written
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by Serenity Caldwell talking about some of the events and goings on that are occurring
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kind of throughout the week in San Jose. It's always a fun time. I can't wait. I'm very
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excited now. So I'm looking forward to it. Looking forward to hanging out with you, Jason.
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And we'll finally get to, you know, we'll get to score this, this draft, which we're
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now going to move into. This is the third annual upgrade WWDC draft. Let me run through
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the rules. Standard rules apply. 10 rounds, 20 overall picks. 10 picks each. The winner
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of the previous draft gets first pick. Jason picked that up with the education event. Jason
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won that draft so he gets to pick first. For an item to count when we do our scoring, it
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must either clearly be announced on stage or on a slide during the presentation. They
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They are the only two ways that a point can be picked up.
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If something is a net preannounced
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or something is ridiculously obvious, it will not count.
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So the ridiculously obvious stuff,
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we'll know beforehand, right, when we're doing it now.
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But if something is preannounced between now and WWDC
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and doesn't get shown on stage, those points do not count.
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There are no half points.
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The points awarded on the episode are final.
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There's no rescoring afterwards.
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So the points will be awarded on next week's show
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after WWDC is concluded, the keynote is concluded,
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and we will have an adjudicator in Stephen Hackett
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in case of a scoring stalemate between the two of us.
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We love to and always prefer to and do our best
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at scoring ourselves, but where we can't,
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we will use Stephen's results as a guide to help us through.
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So, so far this year, 2018's results,
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you picked up the last draft.
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I won WWDC last year.
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So it's gonna be interesting to see if I can, I need this.
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I need to pull this back because if Jason wins
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this draft here, he's probably gonna take all of 2018.
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Right, 'cause we expect there's probably gonna be
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three keynotes this year in total.
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So this one is very important to me.
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- You would only, at the very best,
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you would only hope to tie me if there were four events,
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which there probably won't be.
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So yes, it's all to play for.
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It's a key mode.
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is against the wall here Myke.
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And there will be in the show notes a scorecard for you to download so you can score along
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with us during the keynote next week.
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So we should probably get ready here, we're going to reset and we're going to go into
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picking our first three items, but before we do let's take our first break of this week's
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Absolutely, we got a box and it was amazing. So yes, packed in dry ice so it stays super
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bunch of stuff with that. I still have some left to make. I was actually going to thaw
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something today. One of the things that I like is, so it comes frozen, and the first
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But in very like less than an hour, I think,
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So I did that.
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And then we've made a bunch of meals
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with the chicken and the beef.
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I think I'm gonna thaw the ground beef
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and make burgers tonight because it's Memorial Day
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and the rest of the United States, I suppose too.
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I was gonna say, I'm in California,
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Anyway, it's the end of a three-day weekend for us.
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Haven't had any complaints, just really good. The chicken thighs especially that we got.
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Alright Snail. The friend, all this friendly nature is over because it's draft time. It's
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draft time. So we're going to start our picks. As mentioned, Jason gets to go first. Jason
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will give his pick, we'll talk about it and then I'll give my pick, we'll talk about it
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and continue.
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So Jason, what is your first pick, your opening pick, the thing that you think is most likely
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to happen for WWDC 2018?
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And I believe, you know, one of the challenges here is, as we said earlier, we don't really
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know what's going on.
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So there's, it's really hard.
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So I had this decision of, I could open with something that I think is really boring, but
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almost certainly, I mean, in fact, I didn't even put in here, neither of us put in here
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game demo on stage, which is like a free point.
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It's a free square. And we didn't do that. I feel like that it's just not even... If
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something you know is going to happen, it should not even count.
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I play to win through faultfulness, not through trickiness, you know?
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So my challenge though was, do I pick something that I think is going to happen and play for
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the win when it would be an embarrassing first pick? Boring first pick? And I decided, you
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know what? I'm not going to do that. There's only one item in one of our categories, because
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we had a little our agreed upon list. We had a bunch of different categories and there
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and even though we always say don't talk about hardware and there's only one item in the
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hardware list that I think might even have a chance of happening but I think I'm going
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to pick it first and just let it sit there and we'll see what happens. So with my first
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pick I'm going to say MacBook Pro update.
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Oh wow, okay. That's a big one. I know, I know. Especially because we just spent the opening of the show talking about the fact that hardware leaks.
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And we don't have any leaks. Well, a MacBook Pro update doesn't necessarily mean a completely redesigned MacBook Pro.
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It doesn't. It could just be, first off, people aren't looking for Mac leaks like they're looking for iOS leaks.
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and something that's not a radical change in the hardware
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might not be noticed.
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So, but I agree with you.
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Like, do I, am I high?
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Is this the thing I'm most confident about on my list?
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It is absolutely not.
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But the good news is, Myke,
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that every pick number one, pick number 10,
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each of them is only worth a point.
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But I wanna go out with a big one to start this draft.
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So there it is, MacBook Pro update.
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I think, here's my rationale for why I think
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despite everything, it might happen.
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The audience is developers. There is no computer developer use. I believe more than the MacBook
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Pro. I know that a lot of developers use iMacs, maybe even using iMac Pros now, but the reality
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is more than two-thirds of the Macs sold, I believe, are laptops. And the MacBook Pro
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for developers, like, they all want MacBook Pros. They all want to travel with them. It
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a hugely important product. I believe that developer audience is going to be the most
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receptive if there is a positive message about Apple hearing the needs of MacBook Pro users.
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And they announced MacBook updates last year at this time. So even if it's not a huge like,
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"Well, we've rethought it and the touch bar is going to do this or it's going to be gone,"
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or whatever like that, just new processors showing our commitment to continue to update
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the MacBook Pro because we know you guys care about the Mac. That's my rationale there,
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is even though we don't have any signal about that, I feel like they have to say something
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and it's been a year. And if they aren't planning a fall complete redesign of the entire
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laptop line, which I think they probably aren't, then this would be the time to get the developers
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pumped about Apple's commitment to the Mac.
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So I had my, I had this on my list but not very high, but I had it in there, I was definitely
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going to pick it in, out of my 10, right?
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Just because I agree with you, it makes sense.
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One of the reasons I didn't put it so high though is, whilst I agree that the MacBook
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Pro's audience, you know, the perfect person is the developer for it, I think if Apple
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don't have something meaningful, it might be a not good audience to show this off in
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Like if all it is right now is just, oh hey, it has the new Intel chips in it.
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I don't know if putting that on stage is a good thing for them, right?
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Well, they did it last year.
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I think it is a good thing for them because it is... one of the big complaints about these
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laptops is whether they changed the keyboard or not, right?
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But that's what I'm thinking of is people want that right now.
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Whether they want it or they think they want it or whatever, like that's considered the
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thing that needs to change.
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I'll tell you though, they're not going to announce that we are once again updating the
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MacBook Pro to have the latest and greatest Intel processors because we know you care
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and you want to stay on the cutting edge with this stuff and so we've done that today. They're
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not going to get booze for that. They're not. People afterward will write angry blog posts
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about them not updating the keyboard if they don't, but in the moment, it's sending a positive
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message to developers.
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- Just the reinforcement thing you're thinking of then.
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- Because how soon we forget,
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there was a period in there where Apple was like so slow
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at updating the MacBook hardware
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and not picking up the latest Intel processors.
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And they have now, they did that last year
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when they in less than a year updated the MacBook Pro.
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So it's now been a year.
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I think they can't wait much longer
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to update those systems with the new processors.
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So I think that's my rationale here.
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But again, it's a little bit of a shot in the dark. I just didn't want to go out with
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something boring for the first pick. So there it is, MacBook Pro update.
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I don't know if my first pick is a boring one or not. I don't necessarily think it is,
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but it really does feel like to me, if I'm putting—this is again without really any
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significant information, but just where I would kind of say like, this is something
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I think Apple's going to focus on a lot. And it's whatever they end up calling what Google
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called Digital Wellbeing. I think this is going to be a big part of WWDC this year.
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Some focus on the way people use their devices or the responsibility that Apple has for the
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way that people use their devices. Some kind of thing along those lines which will wrap
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up into it some other features that are also in our draft picks which we can get into later
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Iran because I obviously have picked a bunch of those.
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And I reckon you may have too, but just some focus around.
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And I actually picked this for the education event as well.
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This is one of my things for the education event,
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because I thought it would might maybe pop up there because that was when the
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stories had started to surface around Apple needs better parental controls.
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They're ruining our children.
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This was like a thing that started to occur, right?
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And I believe that WWDC this year for the iOS side
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will focus on tools and functions and a rethinking around Apple's responsibility for the way
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that people use their devices.
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Yeah, I think I saw this in the list and I think it's an interesting idea. Obviously,
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Google just did this at Google I/O. That's one thing that makes me think, you know, makes
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me ask like, will they lean that hard into it since Google did that? Will they go along?
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So I want to clarify your pick here. The way I read this is you're saying that there will
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be some kind of discussion, whether it's a bullet point or just in them talking, about
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how one of the things we wanted to do was look at how we use our devices, look at how
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they fit into our lives and can we make that better. Can we, you know, something about
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improving your life through changing the ways that you use technology. That seems to me
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to be what you're picking.
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either you or your family. That they're selling that concept and it might be like a bullet point,
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like here are the three things we wanted to do and one of them is, you know, digital well-being
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or something like that or it might just be discussing it on stage but what you're saying
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is they're going to put up like an umbrella of here are some things we're doing to help your
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personal integration. Okay, there'll be a judgment call but that's what I think too. I think this one
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is going to be me and you are going to need to discuss it to see if we feel that it counts but
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I think at this point, we believe that the way that we're looking at it is Apple will
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have some kind of discussion or concept.
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My imagination is they put up this slide of people using their devices and they talk about
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the way we use our stuff and, "Oh, we have these new features that reinforce this," or
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et cetera, et cetera.
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And I'm trying to think of something in the past that they've done this way and I'm drawing
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a blank right now, but I think that there's going to be some kind of focus on it when
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it comes to iOS.
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iOS. You know, like it may be, you know, the way that they've, with the Apple
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watch, really kind of leaned into health. And then they have a bunch of features
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that are just about all the exercise and workouts and all that kind of stuff, you
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know, and then they talk about things that they're doing for people with
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disabilities and, you know, like it all leads into this, like making you
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healthier thing. And then, because then they also have, right, like they come out
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and talk about those studies and the apps that you can download for heart
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studies, you know, that, that kind of idea, right? You following kind of, kind
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of what I'm putting down?
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- Okay, so that's my first pick.
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So Jason, what is your second pick?
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- I'm gonna pick something that I think is a safe pick
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and it piggybacks on what you just picked,
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which is I think very specifically,
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they're gonna talk about new parental controls in iOS.
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Like better control for parents
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and maybe for people in general
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for access to various things in the system of iOS.
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Now they've said before
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that they were going to do some of that.
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They've said that publicly
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because there were complaints and various stories
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and government officials and things like that. So I feel like this is something
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that's probably a safer kind of pick, but it's an area, you know, the fact is
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there's a lot of stuff in iOS that Apple took a first crack at it and then let it
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sit for a bunch of years.
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Yeah, and I feel like we're at the point in iOS now where for the next few years
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a lot of what we're going to see is based on new hardware and new ways of
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thinking and evolution of the market that Apple takes a second crack
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at some of that stuff and says, well, all right,
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that, you know, we're going to do it differently now.
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Like that was then, this is now, we're going to change this.
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I think this is one of those areas.
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So I think new kind of parental controls
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and other usage controls that they're getting pressure
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from the EU and especially about
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will be something they address.
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- So I want to talk about what you just mentioned there,
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but I'll just throw in my second pick
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because it's the exact same reasoning,
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which is an overhaul of notifications.
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So I believe that they're gonna do some work
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in changing and enhancing and focusing
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on push notifications to our devices.
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And it's the same idea as stuff like parental controls.
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They implemented it years ago and never really touched it.
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And they've made some slight tweaks,
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but really they're just kind of,
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oh, now the banner can either stay or it can go away,
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or now you can reply to things from the banner.
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But the idea of like the banner and all that kind of stuff and notification center, none
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of it's ever really changed.
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They've just kind of -- they've just moved the deck chairs around a bunch, right?
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They've not actually gone and fixed any of the problems, right?
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Using the Titanic as a metaphor for notifications.
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And it's kind of -- I think these two things are the same, right?
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That they have implemented them a long time ago.
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They've made some slight changes, but they haven't really gone in and fixed them.
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and now iOS is at a stage where now they have to go in and start fixing some of the larger
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underpinnings of things. Going back and redoing things that have lasted for a long time that
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have just been iterated on over the years and I think that notifications is a big one.
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There are so many things that Apple could do here, you only need to look at Google.
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Google have over the last maybe two or three iterations of Android, whether you like what
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what they do or not, they have actually spent a lot of time trying to change notifications
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where Apple has mostly been like, "Oh, we put this button so you can clear everything."
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If you're on an iPhone, if you're on an iPad, you can.
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Exactly. We've removed one of the ordering functions for you and that's where like Google
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is doing stuff where they're allowing you to group notifications and hide notifications
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and all that kind of stuff. So I would like to see something here because I believe that,
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you know, from my first pick and then the two second round picks we both made, I think
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all then like all goes together. Parental controls and notifications all lead into
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this the way we use our devices thing which I think is gonna be one of the
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maybe two or three biggest features, biggest like overarching ideas which is
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focused on for iOS 12. Yeah I wrote a couple articles that have mentioned
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notification overhaul because I think it's something that has to happen and I
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hope that that happens this year. One of the things that that struck me that I
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think as a Google, as an Android feature that I would like on iOS, is the ability
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to directly alter your preferences for a notification when you get it. Basically I
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want a gesture or a little box, little gear box maybe, that I can tap something
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somewhere when I get a notification that says I don't want to see this
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again. You know, unsubscribe. You said yes to some company like three years ago and then
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they start sending you all these like spammy messages, right, because their company's failing.
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And instead of you needing to be like, "Oh no, I gotta go into Sentence and I gotta go
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to notifications and scroll to that comp--" like you just get a little button on the notification
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and you just like stop. No more. Like, we're done. Yeah, I agree with that. And if there's
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more granularity there, that's great. Like if I want to say, "Don't make noise anymore,"
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or only show this on the lock screen. Or, depending on how they do this, lower the priority
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of this. Just lower the priority. What does that mean? I don't know. Show it to me less
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frequently, only show it to me in certain places. There are lots of ways they could
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do this. And if an app has some granular notification settings, take me to that app. That's one
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of the things I realized in some of the news apps I've got. You get the news app and it
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says, "We'll send you breaking news notifications." You're like, "Yes." And then it turns out
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they'll say things like, "Hey, there's a new crossword puzzle. And did you know that there's
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a recipe and you're like, "This is not breaking news. Why are you doing this?" And there is
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a screen somewhere in that app that lets you say, "Oh, turn off all of those and just show
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me the breaking news." Again, that would be a nice thing if app developers could have
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you tap on that thing. And one of the options is, you know, to take me to the settings and
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choose what I'm going to see. All of these things would improve our lives when it comes
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to phone notifications. So yeah, thumbs up.
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So should we go to pick three?
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What do you got?
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- I am going to take, hopefully take a point off the board,
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although I think this is slightly risky and say AirPower,
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AirPower, a previously announced product
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that does not yet, has not yet shipped.
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I'm gonna say it will be mentioned and some sort,
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it will either be released or a release date will be set.
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I think this is a gamble in the sense that this could slide
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all the way to the iPhone announcement,
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but I'm gonna say it now only because it's announced product
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that's floating out there that has not shipped yet. And therefore, it might get shipped,
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or at least be told that it'll be shipping at some point in the next month.
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So I believe that when the store comes back next Monday, AirPower will be available for
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purchase. I am not convinced they will show it on stage.
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Right. That's part of the gamble, right? Is they may not even mention it and it may just
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be released or there'll be a press release that goes out that says, "Oh, an AirPower
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is available next week." It's possible.
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Because my feeling is they would show it on stage if they had something that they were
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also introducing that used it, and I don't think this WWDC is going to bring that.
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No, I agree with that. There could be some products, but I don't
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think that they're going to show off, like, maybe I'm tipping my hand here, but I don't
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think they're going to show off an iPhone SE with inductive charging at this one. I
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I don't think that's happening.
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- It's possible, but I think that it's most likely
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that they would mention this in passing in an iOS slide
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or in a watchOS slide saying that we've got,
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oh, and AirPower will charge your watch too,
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as well as your phone, and that's coming out today,
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or that's coming out later this week.
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So I think it's a risk.
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I didn't want to pick, again, game demo on stage.
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But so I think there's an element of risk here,
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but I think it's worth taking,
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I think it's just it's floating out there, right? It's a product that has been mentioned
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that hasn't shipped and anytime that happens, you've got to think maybe this is the opportunity
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they do to check the box and and get it out the door.
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I'm going to take another big theme off the board that there will be a focus on bug fixes
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and performance improvements to iOS. That one of the things that Apple is going to focus
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on is stability. They will focus on talking about making iOS run better and be more stable,
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that kind of thing. One of the big features of iOS 12 is a focus on stability. The wording
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on this one is tricky, right? Because I don't know how you market this as a feature, but
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I think we'll know it when we see it, right? This will be something that however they refer
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it would be like, "Oh, they're talking about making iOS run better." Would you agree with
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that? Like, it's difficult to get the wording of this one, I think.
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Yeah, so I agree with you. I think we'll know it when we see it. I didn't even have this
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on my list because the way I interpreted this is it's really a yes or no question. In a
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year when Apple is probably focusing on bug fixes and performance improvements, will they
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admit that on stage? Will they talk about, like they did with, what, Mountain Lion and
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Snow Leopard that this is, that's our focus. Or will they just show you what's new and
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not talk about it at all? Not talk about it as a selling point that we're slowing down
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and we're doing a lot of bug fixes and we've changed our focus. And so we'll know when
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we see it, right? They will either say as a selling point, or as a mea culpa, but probably
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as a selling point, that that's what they're doing. And if they just don't, we'll know.
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And I don't think they will, but there's a chance that they will. So that's what you're
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picking. And I think that it's entirely possible. But I will tell you, I didn't want to pick
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it because I never bet on Apple. It seems mean, but I think it's true. I'm never going
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to bet on Apple swallowing its pride and admitting its flaws on stage. I just, I have a hard
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time seeing it.
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That is the risk that I know I'm taking with this one. But that's why I don't think they're
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going to stand there and be like, "Oh man, iOS 11 was buggy, right? Woo!" But what I
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do imagine is them saying that we've really taken time to focus on how fast and stable
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iOS 12 will be on your devices, right? And I think when we see something like that, you'll
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be like, "Oh, I know what you're doing." And so we'll wait and see. We'll wait and see.
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But I agree with you. This one I think is as risky as it is a point, right? Because
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I think we can both agree, they're probably doing this. Will they talk about it? Who knows.
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four round four.
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Okay I'm gonna go with something that's a little bit I think more likely to happen none
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of these are 100% but I feel like Apple has had enough buzz around Animoji that they're
00:42:19
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going to have new Animoji in the next version of iOS. There will be new Animoji characters.
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There's an argument to be made that Animoji is over and it's time to move on to whatever
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the next thing is. And I don't think that's true and there's another item on our board
00:42:36
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that is actually another, is the expansion of Animoji into other areas, but that's a
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separate thing to pick. But I'm going to say, I'm going to place a bet that there will be
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new Animoji characters of some sort in the next version of iOS.
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It's a great demo, became a viral hit, perfect for marketing. I agree with you 100%. You've
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taken one that was like basically next on my list. I 100% agree with you that we're
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gonna see a new Animoji like I think that's gonna happen. Oh now I'm wondering
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what I'm gonna go with next. We're saying easy pick Jason that was an easy pick
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and my response is hey you got to score play to win folks got a play to win. So
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I'm really struggling because I have two that I think are in this realm and I'm
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not sure what to go with I'm gonna do it Animoji integration in FaceTime I'm
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I'm gonna go with it. - Here we go,
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as was foretold, as was just previewed by me.
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Animoji FaceTime.
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- So I keep my, we have this whole list of picks
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that we take from and I take my own and build my own list
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that only I see so I can just kind of keep things
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in order for myself.
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As soon as you said that about Animoji,
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I think I moved four things around.
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Like there was like a house of cards
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of me moving everything around.
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But I think that what goes along with this is,
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hey, look at these new Animoji we've got,
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or what I reckon might happen is FaceTime now includes Animoji.
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And whilst I'm showing you this, how about these new three or four characters that we've got coming in iOS 12?
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Animoji integration in FaceTime would finally give something new to FaceTime after all of these years, right?
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Like, I know, right?
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That now you can do something in it.
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You know, there are other features you could add to FaceTime, but this one feels like something you could more easily do.
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Now there are of course problems with this, like if you're doing a 20 minute Animoji call
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you could probably destroy your battery, but we don't have to worry about things like that.
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I think that this would be a fun feature to add, it would be a logical extension of Animoji
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in a way that makes sense. I think what I would like to see is an app, an Animoji app,
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so I could use them in all different manner of places, but I think the more Apple thing
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to do would be to further extend an emoji into their own applications. So you get it in messages,
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now you get it in FaceTime, you know, maybe you'll get it in clips next, who knows, but
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this feels like a good thing that they can do that that maybe other people don't have right now,
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and it lends into like the past of like the things like iChat effects, right? Like they have a history
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of doing this kind of stuff, but now instead of changing the background you change what's on your
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your face. I agree I think it's a I think it's a logical step. This is the iMessage
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stickers of this of this. I agree and it and it helps promote FaceTime as well so
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I think it's an entirely possible thing. I don't know whether it will happen or
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not that's your shot in the dark part of it but I think it is completely logical
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that they do that. Right but this is also a that the thing of both of these the
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new Animoji and the Animoji and FaceTime these are also really good iPhone
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demo things. You could hold this all the way to September, but it comes out in iOS 12.
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Because this doesn't need testing. Nobody needs to test this because it's an Apple-only
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thing. I think we could both say these are going to be in iOS 12, but whether we see
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them next Monday or in September, who knows?
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Yeah, that's possible. That's possible.
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You see both of these picks go in this exact order again in September's draft. We just
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copy and paste, drop them right in. Jason, pick five.
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I'm going to go with, again, I think there's some risk here because they've done it the
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last two years. But it's such an area of interest for Apple that I think they can't go past
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the developer conference without once again flogging ARKit and giving ARKit. Did I snipe
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you there? You made a pirate noise, so that probably means so. It's super important. It's
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an area of extreme interest that Tim Cook says so. ARKit is one of those areas where
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there is a lot of growth happening. The AR and machine learning are the two areas. I
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imagine that that's out there on the... Did we put a machine learning item in our list?
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'cause that's probably another good guess.
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But ARKit, yeah, we might not have done that.
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They did a bunch of machine learning stuff last time.
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So I think there will be updates to ARKit.
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I think they will, beyond a game demo, right?
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I think they will say,
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"Here are some amazing new things
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"that you can do with ARKit.
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"We're evolving this platform even more."
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It's possible that they will start talking about AR or VR
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attached to the Mac with the iMac Pro,
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because remember the iMac Pro only shipped in December.
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So there might be even a Mac angle to it,
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but I'm just thinking there will be updates to ARKit
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to show that Apple is still on it
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and advancing what people can do
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with augmented reality stuff on their platforms.
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So that's my, I think that's a pretty safe pick.
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You never know with Apple,
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but I feel like that's an area they're gonna hammer home.
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- So even though that this has come out in round five,
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I actually think ARKit might be
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the most surefire of anything.
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- I had to have a little pride and not pick it right away.
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It is the more exciting game demo, right?
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If you're gonna have a demo, at least be exciting.
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And also ARKit, this is Tim Cook's baby right now.
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He talks about it everywhere.
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And-- - It's a shiny object, yeah.
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- They've probably got some really good stuff to show off
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because 1.3 to 1.5 was huge and they put that out already.
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So maybe we're just gonna see ARKit 2.0
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and maybe they'll show off some more stuff in VR, right?
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Like we haven't really seen any VR support, right?
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So maybe they could like tie these two things together.
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You know, basically if Apple are working on AR glasses,
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they need people to be making AR apps and experiences now
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and getting good at them.
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So when the AR glasses launch,
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we don't have a watchOS problem again,
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where, or an Apple TV problem again,
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where the apps suck and just drain the market
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out of that platform.
00:49:03
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- Right, so they're building a market
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for their future products by having it be better,
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get better and better while it's still kind of a curiosity
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on the iPhone. - Yep.
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Because, and this is, they are in a unique position
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where they can actually do this in the open
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where typically they can't, right?
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You can't have watch apps running on the iPhone
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for two years, it doesn't make any sense, right?
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But you can do this with ARKit because our phones,
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I mean, and honestly as well, you know,
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we've spoken about this, our phones will probably be
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powering the device anyway in some way, you know?
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that seems like a thing that could be happening,
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that the ARKit may end up getting split
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and there's like the processing side and the visual side
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and the processing may be occurring on our phones
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while we have our glasses on our faces.
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And so having people know ARKit now
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could be really helpful for the future of this product
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and the future of this idea.
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So them pushing and like them showing developers
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now the opportunities available in ARKit,
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like this is the crowd,
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Like this is the crowd they need to get to.
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You know, when you've got people like James Thompson
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putting ARKit into his calculator,
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you know, like that's because he liked it
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and he saw it and he thought it looked fun.
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But there is now a possibility that down the line,
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James may make a game, like, you know,
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who knows what he may do,
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but he now understands how to use ARKit.
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And so like, I think the idea of trying to show developers,
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here are some fun ways to put ARKit in your apps.
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You know, like you have Carrotweather
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playing around with an ARKit mode.
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So then when we move down this line
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and there is a whole platform
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that developers already understand how to use it
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so their ideas are more fully formed
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by the time the glasses come on the scene,
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which is something they don't typically get to do.
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We always say this, right?
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Every time Apple introduces something,
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we're like, "Oh, look how good this is now."
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But imagine what people could do with this
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in two or three years time.
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I'm really excited to see what developers could do with this
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in a couple of years time, right?
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This is the time when they actually get to do that.
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By the time the AR glasses come out,
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developers have had multiple years
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of playing with ARKit first.
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And that is a unique thing,
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which could be the success of these AR glasses.
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I've been thinking about this a lot.
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So I think that ARKit being on stage is,
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that feels like a real strong pick to me.
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- Well, thanks.
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Thank you for endorsing my choice.
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What do you choose?
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significant overhaul of app development APIs for watchOS. Now, all right, I don't
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know what this looks like, but I feel like if Apple are going to spend any
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time talking about watchOS for a developer during this keynote, they have
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to show something changing in watchOS that means now you'll want to make apps
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apps for this again.
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Watch app. There are loads of developers just pulling their Watch apps from the store, so
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they even need to show 1) why those should come back or 2) why here you can finally make
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that thing you've wanted to make but the WatchOS APIs haven't been robust enough. Whether that
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means someone like Marco can make the WatchOS app he's always wanted or whatever it's going
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to be, but I think we're going to see something to show some significant change, some like
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you can now do this stuff you've never been able to do before on watchOS to hopefully
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try and reinvigorate that platform a little bit because it really feels stagnant, but
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stagnant on an important product.
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The Apple TV App Store is not important in the grand scheme of things.
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As long as we can all get our Netflix app and our Amazon Prime app and whatever, like
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Does anyone really care about there being loads of games and fun apps on the Apple TV?
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I don't think so
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And I think that there is no like if you look at what Apple's future business is
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All of their content stuff playing on the Apple TV sells the Apple TV, whatever
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But the Apple watch which should continue to be an important product
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It needs to have apps on it to continue to make it useful
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and they I think they need to do something there to give that kind of a
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shot in the arm that needs
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- Yeah, it's one of those things, I was having this,
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and if people know of one, please write in,
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but one of the things I was doing when I was running
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last year is I was doing a training app,
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like a couch to 5K app, which I do,
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'cause then I stopped running and I do other stuff,
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and then I'm like, oh, I should start running again,
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and I wanna do this.
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It's very good, 'cause every run sort of increases
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in difficulty, and they're all kind of intervals
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of you walk and then you run.
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It tells you, now walk, now run, so you put on your phone.
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Well, one of the things that I have done
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the last sort of year is looked for apps that do that same thing, training apps
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that run just on the watch. And I can't find one. All the watch apps I can find...
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also I'll say finding a watch app that is clearly a watch app and not just
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tethered to a phone is also very hard. That's part of the problem with the
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watchOS apps now is even though watchOS apps are more
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capable of being separated, the original conception of them was they were
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completely tied to the to the phone. And so significantly overhauling the apps
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and trying to push them further away from the iPhone, I feel like you know
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some of that Apple's tried to do before and the developers seem to be resistant,
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but part of it is that maybe the developers are frustrated with the
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platform. So I hope it gets better because as an Apple Watch user and
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somebody who likes my Apple Watch,
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let me tell you there was nothing more frustrating than finding an app that I
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I thought, keeping in mind too, that they have to have an iOS equivalent to even get
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on your watch. But to have that and then be like, "Alright, I'm going to go for a run.
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I'm going to do this," and have it say, "Please start this workout on your iPhone." It's like,
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"No, I don't want to bring my iPhone. I have a cellular Apple watch. I want to run and
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listen to music. Ideally, I'd like to listen to podcasts, stream to my AirPods, and have
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it also tell me when to run and when to walk." And you know what? You can't do it. You can't,
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far as I know it can't be done right now it needs to change and that means that
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the apps need to be richer. You know I feel like the the LTE Apple Watch was
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was debuted and we all said oh imagine what it would be like when you can just
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leave your home with just your watch that has not happened like I do not feel
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at all like the LTE Apple Watch is taking advantage of what it could do
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can always be connected to the internet now. So it should be able to do basic stuff like
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that and it doesn't. So for them to realize this product, there needs to be some significant
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change, I think. I hope that we see that and I think that if they're going to do anything,
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then that's what they'll do.
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So since we're in the watch section of the draft, apparently, I'm going to pick a watch
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item which is now that the series 3 watches are already out there and again this could
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wait until they announce new watches but I think that the series 3 watches make this
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possible now which is why I think we're going to see a watch OS and feature announcement
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which is sleep tracking it adds to the medical focus of watch OS your health focus that they
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have and I think the battery life on the new watches is long enough that they can actually
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say we will do sleep tracking. Also, as we know and as David Smith has proved, if you
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wear your watch while you're sleeping and then charge it while you take a shower, you
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can do this and it's not a problem while you're getting ready in the morning. So I feel like
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maybe this is the year that Apple embraces sleep as another dimension of the health features
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That's not what I thought you were going to say. I thought you were building up to
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something else that I think I'm now going to pick.
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All right, it's a run on watch items, here we go.
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I wasn't expecting this to occur, but…
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It's going to be like a two minute long watchOS thing where they're like, "Yeah,
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watchOS is great." Anyway, moving on.
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But we have like a third of the picks we're putting on this thing now. Okay, so again,
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like, same idea, right? We have these more powerful watches with better battery life,
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again you could make this part of the next watch but I think that the next watch is going
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to be on the design of the watch, that's what they're going to show off. So I think, but
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I think they will want to make sure they have people ready to take advantage of this new
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feature which will be an always on OLED screen as part of watchOS, is this 5? watchOS 5 isn't
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>> JEAN-MICHELLE: Yeah this is, I wrestled with this one for the reasons you just outlined
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which is, one of the problems with tracking Apple is that there are things they can do
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in software that they reserve for hardware, right? And sometimes they reserve it for the
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new hardware only. Other times they roll it out and say, "Oh yeah, and also the previous
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generation will get this." And this is the challenge with the always-on OLED screen,
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the idea that there will be a simplified, probably, screen on the Apple Watch that stays
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on because with the OLED screen and more battery, you don't use a lot of power and then you
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have something. It may not be the watch face that you prefer. It may flip to that when
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you move your wrist. It may also be that they, this would be a very Apple thing to do, that
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you have to choose a watch face that has support for Always On, and it's a more boring watch
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face, but that's the one that they're going to use. It doesn't have a second hand that
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sweeps or something like that. That's possible too. But I would love to see them do this.
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I'm shocked that it's 2018 and we're talking about the Apple Watch, which was announced
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in 2014, and they still aren't using that OLED screen to show you the time all the time,
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but it does feel like it's inevitable. And the only question is, will they do it now?
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Will they do it with a new round of hardware that's got even better battery life?
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Yeah, the only reason I would say they would do this now is that there might be some work
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that developers need to do for their complications and stuff, right? The way that they pull data,
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the way that they display data, because you know, I'm imagining you maybe have this colourful
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watch face or whatever, and then it goes into just black and white, and the second hand
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disappears and stuff like that, and then when you look at it again, like the second hand
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reappears and the colour comes back. That's kind of like how I imagine this thing looking,
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So there probably would need to be some work there to get your complications like always
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on ready, but we'll see.
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All right, what are you picking for pick number seven?
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Well I feel like I'm just going to segue into this pick.
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I wasn't sure if I wanted to pick it for all the stated reasons.
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It may be a new iPhone feature, but since you picked always on OLED screen for the watch,
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I'm going to pick it for the iPhone.
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I think that there is an iOS feature to be had and the question is, yes, will it be now
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or will it be in the fall where they say, "You know what? If you're using the iPhone 10,
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you can choose to have the screen on showing you the time and the date." And maybe things that are
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kind of like complications, that's possible. And maybe either notifications or a notification
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summary related to notification overhauls, see another location. But it's the same story, right?
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The iPhone X has a lot of battery life and it's got an OLED screen.
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You know, raise to wake is great, tap to wake is great.
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You know what's even greater? Looking down at my phone on the table and seeing the time and date without having to touch it.
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That's better. Let's do that. They can do that now. Why haven't they done it yet?
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So, it's time. And they already have an OLED device, so they can talk about it now because the iPhone X exists and say, "Here's a great iPhone X feature."
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Yes, they could also wait until the fall, but it seems like, especially if they roll
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in other notification kind of items, like something that's more like a complication
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or some other kind of notification reform that they might be doing, this would seem
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to be a good time to roll that all together.
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It feels like it would, I agree with you, would completely go together, which is why
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I'm also going to make my seventh pick something that I think is tied into all of this, again,
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of the stuff that I've been picking, an overhaul of Do Not Disturb.
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So additional functions and features for Do Not Disturb preferences, whether this be ways
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that you turn it on and off, different applications you can allow through, more automation of
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it, whatever it ends up being, but a focus on Do Not Disturb is a thing.
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And I do think somehow the OLED, you know, always on OLED could help lead into this,
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things won't light up anymore on your phone.
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Right. They just change. So just collect and change.
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It's less likely to bring, to like draw your peripheral vision
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because it might just be a little icon when you're in Do Not Disturb
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maybe the number just ticks up as opposed to showing you the entire text
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of the notification or whatever.
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So I think that these things could be tied together somehow but
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I think if they're gonna do something to notifications, Do Not Disturb should go
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along with it.
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I'm gonna write a column about this,
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but I'll give you the short version now,
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which is it was the prom over the weekend,
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which is, you know, big formal in the US.
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It means something totally different in the UK,
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but big formal dance for juniors and seniors in high school.
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And my daughter's a junior in high school
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and she went to the prom with a bunch of friends.
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It was great.
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And afterward they went back to a friend's house
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where they had,
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that was like their designated post-prom location.
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The parents were there.
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They, you know, they spent the night there,
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but they couldn't leave the, you know,
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It's basically a safe prom night kind of thing.
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So, and you know, they're teenagers,
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they're hanging out and having a great time
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and it's prom night, it's very special.
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And Jamie says she got like an hour of sleep
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and she wanted to go home and sleep at 6.30 in the morning.
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Well, guess what?
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We have Do Not Disturb on our phones,
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but we have her set in our favorites group.
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So all her texts and phone calls to us
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should have broken through, except guess what?
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Our phones were on silent because they're always on silent
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'cause I generally don't want my phone making noise.
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and my volume was down all the way.
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And so I actually had, I had mute off on my iPad,
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which I usually don't.
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And so she finally called me and my iPad rang.
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And that's how I knew that she wanted to be picked up
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and we went and picked her up.
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But she first was texting Lauren and calling her
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and no sound was made anywhere.
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And this was one of those moments where I thought, okay,
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This is a problem that Apple has the situation where
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some people want noises some of the time,
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some people want noises none of the time.
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Sometimes you wanna let noises through,
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but like if I'm at the theater and my daughter texts me,
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I don't want it to make noise.
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But when I'm at home and it's two in the morning
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and my daughter is somewhere and is like,
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"I need you to pick me up right now,"
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I have to get that message, right?
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How do you handle all of those situations?
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Right now, the best that I've come up with is
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at the end of the day,
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I need to turn on Do Not Disturb and turn on the sound on my iPhone in order to receive
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emergency messages.
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Like that's too much.
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That's too much work.
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Well you see how, right, this is the problem you created with the way that your notifications
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are so bad, right?
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Well that's true, right?
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I have just turned every sound off on my phone because I just, I never, because in most cases,
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also I should say, a lot of sensors here, phones should be able to tell if it's in your
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pocket and it can vibrate when it's in your pocket and when it's been laying somewhere
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flat and not moved at all for a period of time, it's not in your pocket, right? It's
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been abandoned and maybe it needs to get your attention in a different way at that point.
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Like there are things, I'm not saying it's an easy problem, but I'm saying it's a problem.
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And so I would roll all that in. I'm going to heap all of that on to do not disturb overhaul
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to know and in these situations I don't.
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Alright, so that was pick number seven. We have three more picks to go and then we're
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going to do, we're going to talk about the things that didn't quite make the cut but
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we think are likely but won't be scored. But before we do, let me take our next break and
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Round 8 now. Are you ready Jason? What have you got?
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I am ready and it is time to make a Mac pick.
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Hooray! Finally! Is this the first? Well there was hardware right?
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Should I say Mac OS mentioned on stage?
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Nobody knows! I think that was an actual thing we were debating a lot last time.
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was whether they would mention the Mac at all on stage. I'm going to say HomeKit on
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Mac OS. I don't know what form this will take, but if you didn't know, HomeKit, very important
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to Apple, not supported on the Mac at all, not even a little, not even a tiny bit. So
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I'm going to say, and I think I'm actually, this is a super risky pick because I think
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they may just not care or it may just be part of something larger because there are some
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thoughts that one of the things that they do this much debated strategy of making it
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easier for iOS developers to develop Mac apps, which is another thing we could
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pick in this draft, although the feeling is that that's probably far away. One of
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the things that they would do in terms of eating their own dog food would be to
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take the Home app and convert it to run on the Mac. But regardless, I don't care
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whether it's Home app on Mac OS, whether there's a new Notification Center
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Today widget on Mac OS that shows you your HomeKit status, whether it's Siri on
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the Mac that is doing HomeKit. I don't care. What I want to do is to be able to
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sit at my desk and change the lighting in my room via HomeKit without realizing
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"Oh, all of my iOS devices are elsewhere in the house, so I have to leave the room,
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bring back an iOS device, and then do it." That's stupid. The Mac should do HomeKit.
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So I'm going to say, mostly out of my being irate that it doesn't already, I'm
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I'm gonna say that Apple's finally gonna get
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with the program and allow the Mac
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to control HomeKit devices.
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- Yeah, I mean, I see why this could never happen, right?
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Because it's like, well, you probably have an iOS device,
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probably, and/or you should be speaking
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to your iOS devices, you know?
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- But this goes to a lot of the misconceptions
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of how people use their computers,
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and I hope that Apple is changing its tune here,
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'cause yes, it's true, we all have iOS devices, right,
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more or less, many, many, most Apple used to.
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sometimes think to myself, oh, let me just turn on the light and go to notification center on the Mac.
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Right? So even I as an iOS first person do this. I'm just wondering if like what the strategy is
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going to be. When I'm using my computer, I'm using my computer. I'm not using my iOS devices. And in
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my case, I will grant you a lot of people, they're doing that and their phone is in their pocket.
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I get that. But my phone is not in my pocket a lot of the time. It is charging and it's charging in
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another room because I've got all of this great Apple technology that lets me
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know if I get a text message or if my phone rings. It happens on my Mac, but if
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I need to turn on a light or adjust to the thermostat, I can't. It just
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seems dumb. It is a huge hole in the Mac where I think it would be something
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that they should address. So I'm gonna wish cast a little bit and also
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feel like if there's ever low-hanging fruit for a macOS update, supporting HomeKit is
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it. So there it is.
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Alright, so my next pick we might need to do some discussion over as to how exactly
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we're going to score this or what we're going to let through. I want to pick movement of
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Control Center. Now, the thing is about this, I believe Control Center's going to move,
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I just don't know which device they're going to relocate it somewhere else on.
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So they're either going to change the iPhone to be like the iPad or they're going to change
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the iPad to be like the iPhone.
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And I don't know which one they're going to do.
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Or both, right?
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To a new location.
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They move them both to somewhere completely different.
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Turns out they're now bringing out a control center device, which is this whole extra thing.
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No, do you know what I mean?
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What you do?
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It's like AirPods.
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You tap the back of your device and it pops up.
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throw it across the sky and it goes into airplane mode. I'm not sure what they're gonna do here
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and I want to see if you are okay with that. It changes on one iOS device to a different
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No, I like that. I think we had in our list, I put in Control Center moves on the iPhone
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10, but I think this is a perfectly good pick and I like how it's broader because you're
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calling out something that we've talked about before that I think is important, which is
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Apple made some changes to the UI for the iPhone 10 and for iPads last year,
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and they did it differently on those devices.
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So they started to diverge and it's a little bit weird.
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It doesn't mean divergence isn't okay, but it's a little bit weird.
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And then on top of that, I personally am still frustrated all of these months
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later about where control center is on my iPhone 10, because I use,
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I hold my iPhone in my left hand.
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And a lot of what my iPhone interaction is, is swiping with my thumb.
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And guess what?
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Guess what I can't do with my thumb, Myke.
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I can't bring up Control Center because my thumb is not six inches long and does not
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reach the far corner of the screen. And I used to flip up Control Center all the time,
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so I would love to see it move on the iPhone X, but I think I like your broader point,
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which is, somebody's gonna see Control Center moved somewhere.
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Pick number nine. Pick number nine, oh boy. The penultimate pick here. Oh, yes, yeah,
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Let's do some more pressure, Myke. That is very helpful.
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We have a lot of things. There's probably like 40 more things to pick from, from our
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shared list. Because that is what we do. I think we mentioned it, but to make it clear
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again, we don't... I think it's fairer this way for the draft that we agree upon a list
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that we choose from and then pick them, rather than me and Jason just surprising each other
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with our big ideas. I think it works better for the draft, right? That we have a list
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and we pick from that list. So there's a lot left on the list.
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There is a lot left on the list.
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I am going to go with a pick
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that I think is probably not gonna happen,
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but it would be amazing if we saw it
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and I'm gonna broaden it enough to make it possible
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that we'll see it.
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And that is development environment on iPad
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at the developer conference.
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Now we had this in the list as Xcode for iPad.
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Yeah, that is probably a stretch.
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- Yeah, you know.
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- But what I'm sort of saying is,
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something more than what we have now in Swift Playgrounds,
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I would love a demo where they say that,
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basically you could write an app in Swift on an iPad
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and submit it to the App Store.
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But it might not be Xcode, right?
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It might, or it might be called Xcode
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and not be Xcode as we know it.
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- Yeah, like I imagine that you could say like,
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oh, hey, that project you've been working on,
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you can take it on the road on your iPad
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and do this and do this and do this,
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and then throw it on your Mac to submit, right?
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- Right, right, that would be a possibility, right,
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where it's a buddy to your Mac's Xcode,
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but it's not all of Xcode, but it's enough to get you,
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it's advancing the ball toward the ideal
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that the iPad could be used as a development environment.
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- I wanna throw something else out there, right,
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as a potential thing here,
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is just somehow tethering your devices
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to make them run differently,
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like to maybe have it run on the device.
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Do you think that's the thing that we count here?
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are we talking about purely like a tool for iOS
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that will allow you to advance the work
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that you're currently doing on your application?
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Is that kind of what we're going for here?
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- I think it's that.
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I think it's definitely that.
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- The creation of some--
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- Either you're building your app on your iPad
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or you're able to sort of take some of the work you're doing
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but I think Swift is probably the key here.
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That's when I imagine a development environment on iPad,
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that's what I'm imagining
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is it's a swift app development environment.
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And the dream is that you could do enough theoretically,
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and then everybody will complain and be like,
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oh, but I can't do that because of this, because of this,
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and that probably will be true.
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But that at some level,
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they will be able to demo app development
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that involves you doing it on an iPad Pro.
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- I like that.
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I would like to see that just because it's a statement.
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That's why I would like to see it.
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Obviously I wouldn't use it,
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but I would love to see it.
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I think it would say a lot about iPad and iOS.
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Which makes me think that I'm gonna shuffle things around
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a little bit and I'm gonna throw out,
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the only thing that I feel any kind of confidence
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about hardware-wise, purely on gut feeling,
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is new iPad Pros announced at WWDC.
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- Yeah, I know.
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I've got this one into my head.
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There is no indication that this is gonna happen.
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I just think it's gonna happen.
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- I wanna live in your world.
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I want new iPad Pros.
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I totally want new iPad Pros.
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I wanna live in that world.
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I don't think it's gonna happen till fall,
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but I want it to happen, Myke.
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I'm with you there. - Honestly,
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this is one of the things I'm picking just purely based upon
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I wanna put that energy out into the universe, you know?
01:16:24
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- If you win the draft because iPad Pros
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are surprise announcements at WWDC,
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I'm just gonna tip my cap.
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That's like, great, I'm glad you won the draft.
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- It's like, I'll take that off.
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This is good for all of us.
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Like the reason is they did it last year.
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They could do it again.
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They're not gonna have any significant software advancements
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in my opinion in iOS 12 for the iPad.
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So a way to show continued,
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some kind of continued love to the iPad line
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is to show off new hardware
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that might not even ship for like a month
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or whatever, right?
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But I think, I hope really
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that we're gonna get new iPad Pros.
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I may have burned the pick here,
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but this is just the gut feeling that I have
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and I hope that it comes true.
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So I'm gonna go with that for pick number nine.
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- Now remember we did in a previous draft as the idea,
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like I picked the Mac being mentioned on stage.
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and I don't did it. I think maybe it didn't. I don't know. I'm going to do something similar here,
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which is, and I think this is a risky pick, I think because at the last quarterly phone call
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with analysts, Apple had very little to say about this product, but I'm just going to pick the Home
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Pod will be mentioned on stage. Maybe there'll be an update. Maybe they'll talk about stereo pairing.
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Maybe they'll talk about new Siri features that will work on the HomePod as well as other places,
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but I'm just going to put it there on the ground. I'm going to lay it there, which is
01:18:04
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very simple. Is the HomePod's existence acknowledged in some way?
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Okay. I think you're going rogue. I don't think that was in our list,
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but I'm happy to allow this. I don't think so. I don't think it was in our list.
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Maybe I added it and didn't. That was not one of the ones I told you. You can veto it if you want.
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No, I don't want to, because again, I think this was the same as the Mac. I think you
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did this for the Mac too. I like it. I like this as a pick because it is a tantalizing
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thing, right? An omission completely of the HomePod this year would say a lot.
01:18:47
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They announced it last year at this event. How could they not mention it? If they don't
01:18:50
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mention it, especially in a Siri context, plus it's got features that they promised
01:18:54
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that they haven't delivered yet. Like, when would they do it other than now? And if they
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don't, wow, that will be something, right? So I think they will, but yeah.
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Jared: I will note as well that we are in our final round and neither of us has mentioned
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the word "Siri" yet.
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Tim: No, that's one of the reasons I wanted to get a Siri pic in there and I thought about
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picking a slightly different Siri thing and I decided it would be a little safer. Remember
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last year when we were convinced that Siri was going to be the through line of the entire
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event and it totally wasn't?
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Jared and Tim >> Yup.
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Maybe it'll flip the other way. Maybe this year we'll totally discount their Siri stuff and then
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it will all be about Siri now that they've got Siri on all these different devices.
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We'll see. What's your last pick, Myke? That's the last one.
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- Similar idea, right? You know, your HomePod thing is a canary in the coal mine, right? That
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mention. So I'm gonna pick for my final pick, a mention of user automation improvements or workflow
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on stage. Apple bought workflow over a year ago. I want to see what the point was.
01:19:58
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- Right, wouldn't that be nice? - Why did you do this?
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- I have some theories. - I have many theories.
01:20:03
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- I have some theories. You mentioned notification overhaul. Like, one of my thoughts was,
01:20:08
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wouldn't it be great if you could tie workflow to notifications? So when a notification is sent,
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like instead of the apps having to do a URL callback or something, it's like,
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when a notification is sent from this app that contains these things, do something.
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or when an event is sent,
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like that would be one way to do it.
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Siri is another way where you could train Siri
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to do things on voice
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that were actually just kicking off workflows.
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There are so many different ways they could do it.
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They could also say,
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we are a believer in a variant of Swift
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as a scripting language,
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and now you can use that to automate apps,
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our apps and other apps can follow,
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or we're gonna embrace the things the Omni group
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are doing with JavaScript and we'll go that route.
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There's lots of different paths this could take,
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But yes, wouldn't it not be nice
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if after they bought Workflow,
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they said anything about it or user automation as a concept?
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Wouldn't that be great?
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- It'd be great.
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And this might be one of those things
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where we have to adjudicate together
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to what counts towards this.
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You know, one thing that I thought was,
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what about Workflow on the Mac?
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I think we'll know, and I'll give you that one.
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Yeah, I think we'll know it when we see it.
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I think it's one of those.
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I think we'll know.
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Boy, that would be, for me, that's the dream feature.
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I think I wrote about that on Macworld last week.
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In my geeky iOS dreams was
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a new unified user automation story from Apple,
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where they say on iOS and Mac,
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here's how we're gonna do it moving forward.
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And I've yet to see much evidence
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that Apple cares about user automation at all.
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But maybe we live in hope.
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- One big thing was they bought a company that does it.
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I mean, this is what I'm saying.
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It's like they've not done anything.
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It looked like they didn't care about it, right?
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Automated, nothing's happened to it in years.
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They did nothing with this on iOS.
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They always made it hard for the workflow team
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to get features through it seemed, right?
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Including the app even originally debuting
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in the first place.
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It seemed like it was always a fight of app review,
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understandably, because it was such a strange
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and application that did things that typically seemed
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like they wouldn't have been allowed.
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Then they fired Salzogoyen,
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but then they bought workflow.
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Right, so it's like it seemed like that they had,
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they were doing everything they could
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to make this difficult or make it an edge case or whatever,
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but then they bought the team and they didn't kill the app.
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The app became an Apple app,
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which they've still updated since, right?
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So like that shows something.
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I want to see what the point of this was.
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I want to see why did you acquire
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that group of incredibly talented young developers?
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Why did you do this?
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I want to see that.
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So we'll wait and see.
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So that's it, that's our 10 picks.
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You can find in our show notes the scorecard
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so you can score along with us.
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That is the 10 picks that me and Jason have chosen each.
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- But we're not done.
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I have a small list. - Oh no.
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- I have a handful of things that I wanted to mention too
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as well as I'm sure you do of things that we think
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on our official draft list.
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Alright, give me a couple, give me two things from your list of items that you think could
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happen but didn't make it into your official top 10. I want two items from you, Jason.
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We can do more, but just to start off, I want two.
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Yeah, I've got about 10 that made my list of possible picks, but I didn't pick. So,
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first two. Dark mode on iOS. Again, it goes back to that whole OLED screen discussion,
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like a real valid dark mode. I would say dark mode on the Mac too could be thrown in there
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they have come close but they just can't go over the edge. Like an official dark mode,
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the system knows, all the apps can change their appearance based on it. And then one of those
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old saws that I'm kind of just tired of bringing it out and having it be rejected, which is
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improved family sharing features on photos. Presumably there'll be new app, new features
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and photos. There always are. I write a book about photos to update it every summer. I imagine I'll
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have to do that again. But the one that keeps coming back and that Google has tried to address
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and Apple hasn't is the fact that if you've got two adults with Apple IDs and their partners,
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and they want to share their photo libraries and pour into a shared photo library, you can't do it.
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You can't do it. There's family sharing. It's a lower resolution version of the photo. And even
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if you copy it over, you have to do it manually. It's not good enough. So I'm kind of beaten down
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about that one because it should have been there years ago when they
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announced families in Apple IDs and they haven't done it yet but maybe this
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year. Yeah I was thinking about the dark one too and that kind of led me also down
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the path of some iOS design refresh in that it feels like right now there are
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multiple different, even in Apple's own apps, like styles and ways of showing
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certain elements and I think maybe it's time to just unify some of that stuff a
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little bit maybe yeah just just being a little bit more consistency that would
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be high on my list if not for that Mark Gurman report that that was one of the
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things they kicked to next year but I would I would love to see that and then
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also some form of easier Mac app development for iOS developers not even
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necessarily my list right this idea of like straight up you put your iOS to
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iOS app on the Mac or whatever but just some kind of beginning of this you know
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whether it is that, what is it called? UX kit, like what photos is made out of, you know?
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Just something that seems to like, crack open that door a little bit, you know, something to kind of
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bleed a little bit of life maybe into the Mac App Store through this or something which is like,
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"Hey, iOS developers, we're trying to make it easier for you."
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- Yeah, that would be great. And it doesn't have to be Marzipan. In fact, it could be
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a step toward that, but not the whole step.
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Just ways of saying, all iOS developers use Macs,
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but it's hard to write Mac apps as an iOS developer.
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So let's make it easier and start down that path.
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It doesn't always have to go all at once.
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Two others that I wanted to mention that both of what,
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so refinements made to multitasking on iOS,
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which again, I'm gonna kind of assume
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based on the reports from Mark Gurman,
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that has been kicked major iPad improvements have been kicked to 2019.
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However, you could make refinements today and I'm thinking specifically of things like
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better support for keyboard and changing focus between apps in split view and maybe even
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using the keyboard to control split view and and slide over and things like that some things
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that are not a complete overhaul but are refinements I would like it now this did not happen.
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last time, right? They announced the multitasking features and they did not change them one
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bit for two years. It may be that that's what we're looking at again, but I'm going to still
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have a little bit of hope that they could do some little refinements to make the stuff
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that they introduced last time better and that we might see those in the next iOS version.
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And then my other one is something that I constantly hope for. It has not happened yet.
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I feel like it would be super easy for them to do because they already have a text insertion
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cursor on iOS, which is to just let you pair pointing devices with iOS devices.
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And all they all they may do is move that cursor. That's fine. That's fine. If
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somebody edits text on iOS, I'd love to have a trackpad for text editing. Only at
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this point it would be enough for me. And I don't anticipate that happening, but if
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it does happen, you know what it's going to be? It's going to be one of those 50
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features that's on that slide that says there are 50 plus more features that we
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didn't even talk about here. It'll be one of those, if it's anything. But they could
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do it. They don't need to completely rethink iOS in order to just let you pair a Bluetooth
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mouse or a dragpad and move that little iBeam cursor around.
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I'd love that. I have two more Apple Watch ones.
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Oh boy. I know. Third-party watch faces.
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Yeah, I feel like that's never going to happen now, but it would be nice.
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But to me, I try and apply the third party keyboard to this idea, right?
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It seemed like that was never ever going to happen and then one year it just happened.
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And I think that that could be the same, you know, we just have to wait it out.
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And enough of which has surprised me that it hasn't been included yet, which is yoga
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as a fitness tracking type.
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Just feel like, you know, these developers in California, I figured they might have put
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yoga in, like how they have swimming and all those kinds of things. That's always surprised
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me. So yeah, I think that that's one that I would like to see. I have one more after
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this. You can pick out any more you want.
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All right. I'll give you two. You give one and then I'll empty the rest of my list. Some
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alteration to the business split in the App Store, the 70/30. And it's already altered,
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because if you have a subscription that goes longer than a year it turns to 75/25
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I think or is it 80/20? I don't know. It's better after the first year. So the idea that they're
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kind of charging you for content for customer acquisition. 85/15? Oh yeah, even better. So
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there's a good one. I don't have a subscription in the App Store. But yeah, so the idea there is
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you acquire them and you pay Apple and then you pay them at a lower rate. Maybe some change there.
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I don't know what that would be. I don't think it's going to be a global sort of like,
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it's all 80/20 now,
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although it's possible they could do that.
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Somebody was asking about services revenue, by the way,
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my understanding is that all the App Store revenue
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is Apple services revenue.
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And then part of their expense in that line
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is the payouts to developers.
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So I think if you change the split,
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it doesn't change the,
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I don't think it changes the revenue
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because I think the revenue is all of it.
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Now, if I could be wrong, correct me if I'm wrong,
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but I think that's the case,
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that it's all revenue, right?
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And then the 70 is expense that they pay that back out
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to developers.
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I think that's how that works.
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- Right, 'cause they don't report services profit.
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- Right, it's services revenue.
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I mean, they are profitable,
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and that's their margin, right?
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That's a business with quite honestly,
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a pretty good margin, a 30% margin,
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the App Store business is.
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So they're essentially bringing in all the money,
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they're paying out 70% to their suppliers
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and they keep 30%, that's pretty good deal.
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- 'Cause I thought that that wasn't gonna happen
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because of that.
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But yeah, you've just kind of opened my mind up to that a little bit, which is that it's
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not necessarily profit.
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So you can still report the same numbers.
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Maybe the changes won't be global.
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Maybe they'll be in very specific areas where they're like, "We're going to change what
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certain kinds of apps do."
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You make a watch app and an iPad app as part of your whole universal thing, you now get
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an extra 10% of the revenue.
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You know, something like that as an incentivization tactic.
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It could be, but just a change.
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So anyway, I had that in there because I think that, again, we don't have to specify what
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the changes but a change some change somewhere and I'm gonna I'm gonna say
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again I had on my list and again my heart's been broken too many times I
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couldn't pick it the the expansion of that free iCloud storage space figure
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because it should be bigger than it is I'm not saying they get they they still
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offer a 99 cent subscription 99 cents a month and that is the most in my mind
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that is the most embarrassing product in Apple's product line is the 99 cents per
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month iCloud storage space just make that free make that the free tier make
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that the free tier. People are going to love iCloud. They're going to want to use more
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iCloud space. A whole bunch of people giving you 99 cents a month so that you don't completely
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degrade their experience is not worth it on any level. Make iCloud better. Expand the
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free tier. It's not something for nothing because you're already giving away something
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for free. Do I think it's going to happen? No, I don't. I think they're just going to
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keep dragging their feet. I'm tired of getting my heart broken so I didn't pick it.
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All right, the last one I want to throw out there is Siri to get new assistant focused
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features. I don't really know what this looks like, but just Siri gets some features where
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they're like, this makes it more like your personal assistant or your digital assistant,
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right? Where like they somehow give it some features that are meant to be like, oh, hey,
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and now it's a better assistant than ever before, you know?
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- Yeah, no, that's making it feel a little bit more personal. It could be things like Siri, type to Siri, it could be Siri in an iMessage.
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There's lots of things it could be to make it feel more assistant-y. Well, we'll see. We don't have to score that one, so that's good.
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I had basically three more. Enhancements to SiriKit. Again, this is a case where I feel like I picked it so many times that I didn't want to bother picking it where it's, yeah, it's more for developers.
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like let me take my podcast player and tell it to play a podcast, which you can't do now.
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Let me tell a different music playing app that I want to play music.
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Let me do more.
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This could be how they show HomePod, right?
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That they announce new Siri kit intents and that they show it off in the demo of HomePod.
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I mean, my dream last time was that they were going to show cloud services with Siri too,
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because that's one of the places where they're way behind Amazon, is the ability to build
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cloud apps, basically.
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There are like Siri apps that you can talk to on any device because you add them via
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an app store and then they're just in your Siri.
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And Alexa does that now.
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And Siri doesn't.
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But I don't think they're going to do that either.
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I put MacBook and MacBook Air updates too.
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I think there is a distinct possibility that Apple will just unload a slew of apps.
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minor updates to the laptop line in at once I picked the one I wasn't going to
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pick any more than that one's the most relevant to this audience and the most
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obvious that they could use the latest generation of Intel processors but I
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think there's a chance that the whole laptop line could get revved and that
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they could do it on stage so we'll see everyone likes hardware where it's
01:35:54
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applicable or not right right right and if they've got it ready to go in there
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and they're going to just churn through their laptop line that's two-thirds of
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of their Mac sales, like why not do it on stage
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in front of an audience of Mac developers,
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or of Mac users who are iOS developers, like it's important.
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My last item, and I didn't pick this
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because we sort of like, you got your FaceTime pick.
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I didn't want to do two FaceTime picks,
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but every year we think
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maybe they'll do multi-person FaceTime.
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Imagine the demos if you can have like two grandchildren
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in different states talking to grandma at the same time
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and each other and stuff like that.
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- And all of them using Animoji.
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- Yeah, right?
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And the technology exists to do this.
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Everybody, that's, people are like,
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"Oh, what about FaceTime?"
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People assume FaceTime will let you talk to multiple people.
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And it won't.
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- My only assumption with this, Jason,
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is that there is just something
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in the underlying foundation of FaceTime.
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- That makes it too hard.
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- Yeah, because why would you not have done this by now?
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- I know, I don't know.
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It's a real mystery to me,
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because so many other services do offer this sort of thing.
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And that's why I didn't pick it,
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is like it's gone on so long that they haven't done it
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that now I feel like I'm just a fool if I keep picking it.
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Fool me once, shame on me.
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Fool me five years in a row.
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Or fool me once, shame on you.
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Fool me five years in a row, shame on me.
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I should just get the message that it's never gonna happen.
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And then you know what happens, then they do it.
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So maybe this year.
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- You've at least said it. - We live in hope.
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you've at least said it, you know, you've got that.
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- I got that. - So that is the draft.
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Of course, all of those that we've mentioned in this segment
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they are non-scorable items.
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It's merely for, I don't know, bragging rights, I guess.
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These were the things that we thought
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and they end up happening.
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And also I guess to commiserate and be like,
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"Oh, why did I put my new iPad Pro in there?
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"We kind of just should have kept the yoga fitness type in."
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You know, that's the kind of idea.
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So on our next episode next week, which we will be,
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We're recording as soon as we can after the keynote ends.
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So you can look for that.
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I mean, I'm hoping in all honesty
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that we will be able to publish, upgrade,
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probably before or just after the State of the Union.
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It's kind of, it's my hope
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that we will have the episode out as quick as we can.
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- There is a tight window between the keynote
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and the State of the Union,
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which is a too Pacific, I wanna say,
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that is the window that we're hoping to do.
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I'm going to run out the doors of the keynote.
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and across to the hotel and then we're going to do that episode immediately.
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I think we're already we're going to like make sure lunch is already there so that we don't have to wait like
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get lunch and then none of that we're just going to do it so it'll be hopefully as quickly as possible after the event is over.
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So Jason will be he's going to be there and so he'll be coming from the convention center to meet me
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and then we'll be recording the show and we're going to be doing two things we're going to be
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scoring the draft and then we're going to be talking about some of the big themes, some
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of the big ideas, what was announced, what was not announced at WWDC so you can catch
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that next week so look out for that. And again I'll mention it last time in our show notes
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this week which are at relay.fm/upgrades/195 you will be able to find a link to a PDF which
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you can download so you can score along with us and please tweet at us with the way you
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you've scored. I love to see when people are scoring, I love to see what people, I always
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find it funny to see how vastly different everybody scores the drafts, that's always,
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it always makes me smile to see that. So that's always a lot of fun, so we look forward to
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enjoying that along with you. And if you want to find Jason online, he's over at SixColors.com.
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Jason how, what are you going to be doing? You're going to be live blogging, live tweeting
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the event, what's your plan?
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I haven't come up with my plan yet. I will do some coverage from there. I figure everybody's
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going to be watching the video, so I hope to do a little bit lighter commentary maybe
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on Twitter while also taking notes and thinking and planning what I'm going to say, of course.
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I am going to link to the @sixcolorsevent Twitter account, because sometimes you will
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put things on there too, so if you want to follow along there you can, but of course
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if you go to sixcolors.com you'll be able to see whatever Jason's doing, if he's doing
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anything at that time but follow Jason on Twitter he's @JSnell and I am @imike I am
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Y K E. I want to thank our sponsors one more time the wonderful folk over at Skillshare
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and ButcherBox and Smile with PDF Pen 10 and also Pingdom as well for helping make this
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episode happen. We hope that you have enjoyed the third annual draft 2018 WWDC draft and
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We'll be back next week in person from San Jose, California.
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Until then, say goodbye, Jason Snow.
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- See you next week, Myke.
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