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Nobody cares about that, Jason Snell, because we're going to go into #SnellTalk, and our Snell Talk question comes from Steve this week.
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And Steve wants to know, when you two haven't seen each other for a while, and you come together to do some kind of live show, or you're just hanging out, do you greet with a hearty handshake or a friendly hug?
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That's an interesting question. Thank you, listener Steve.
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I would say we are, I'm from California, and so I think hearty hug is the way to go.
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Because we are going to be doing our draft today, but for the first, because we're doing a live episode, before we do something slightly different,
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I am of the understanding that drafts are a sports thing, that's what Jason tells me.
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So Alex and Stephen will be saying that all of my picks are terrible as we go on throughout the entire draft today.
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We're going to be throwing to them every couple of rounds and asking them for their analysis of how me and Jason are performing in the draft.
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Those, like the Chicago event that happened right here in the spring, the intro stuff, the package that everybody got,
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was tied to the art that was up at the event, to the slides, to the promo video that they did at the beginning.
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It was all kind of up a kind. So it'll be interesting to see if there's more to the story about these hundreds of Apple logos that were drawn with something.
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For an item to count as being able to have points awarded in the draft, it must either clearly be announced on stage or be presented clearly on a slide during the presentation.
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We choose from a list of items that we've generated together. Today, again, for the first time, we generated that list while sitting together at a breakfast bar.
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Nothing that is blatantly obvious within reason is on our list because every pick should have at least some risk to it.
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Completely ridiculous things are on the list.
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No half points are awarded. There are no points for any preannounced items that may occur between now and the draft, and the points will be awarded on next week's episode, and they are final.
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There will be a PDF scorecard in the show notes for you to follow along, and there will be also a link to Zach Knox's interactive scorecard as well, once that's live.
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I believe, as of right now, Zach is doing that, so thank you, Zach, for updating that for us.
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That's our favorite thing, is when a competition ends in a tie.
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Everyone loves a braggart, too, Jason.
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We have discussed the potential of, if we do come to a tie, there will be some kind of tie break at the end of the year, maybe in our holiday special, but we haven't decided that yet.
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I mean, unless we will, we probably won't need it.
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Because Jason's probably going to win.
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You're setting me up now. I don't like this.
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I think you started that a long time ago.
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So we should get started with the draft picks, but before we do, let's go to our first break for this episode.
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Thank you. So we're going to go into pick two.
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After we've gone to pick two, we will be throwing to our draft casters for their opinions and thoughts about the two picks that we've both made so far.
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Scott, we'll call him Scott. Adobe Scott.
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Anyway, last week Adobe announced Photoshop on the iPad, and they got Phil Schiller to come down to LA to the Adobe Max conference and appear on stage and say how great it is that Adobe is bringing Photoshop to the iPad.
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And he even got a jacket with a pun on it.
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Sure. So I'm going to say, and this is one of our little showbiz picks where it's sort of like what is happening on stage.
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I'm going to say that in the rollout of the iPad next week, they will mention or demo, not necessarily demo, but at least it will be mentioned,
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Photoshop running on the iPad will come up in Apple's presentation as kind of a reciprocal agreement.
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Scott Belsky. I looked it up. His name is Scott Belsky.
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Okay. They may bring Scott out or someone else out from Adobe. They may not. They may just say it in passing. They may do a full demo.
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But I feel like if you're rolling out a new iPad Pro and Adobe is bringing Photoshop to the iPad and you are perhaps introducing a new Apple Pencil, that this has to be a big part of the story.
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Even though the product is not going to be out until 2019, I feel like it has to be a part of the storytelling that Apple does here.
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I think that this relationship is a lot more than we know.
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I think that Apple are working very closely with Adobe. I think that this is a very strong relationship.
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This is something that they both need of each other.
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They both need things from each other for this.
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So I expect for some time to come, there's going to be a lot of Adobe on stage at different points.
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And I think that this, either somebody comes out and does some kind of demo or it's like, you know, oh, this, you know, we're so happy about our new partnership with Adobe, which means that in 2019, when you have your new iPad and your new Apple Pencil, you'll be able to do things like these invites that we sent to everyone, which were all made in the new photo.
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So like, I think there's going to be something. This seems like a, if they're going to do any app demos, this feels like a pretty good one that they would do.
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I think that's a pretty, pretty strong pick from you, Jason.
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I really don't want this to happen because I use over-ear headphones when I'm traveling and I use my iPad when I'm traveling and I use it to watch Netflix.
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I'm watching Making a Murderer season 2 right now, which is crazy.
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I, you know, just as a quick aside, no spoilers.
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I didn't think it was going to be that good. I was like, they did such a great job with the last one. What more could there be? There's a lot more.
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But I think that Apple like to plug all the holes in all of the devices.
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And with the introductions of AirPods, I think that they're going to be able to use the excuse that the Google guy used when talking about the Pixelbook.
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Like, oh everyone uses Bluetooth headphones now because phones don't have headphone jacks.
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So we just took the headphone jack off our tablet, which is like the worst thing.
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But it will be really courageous for Apple to get rid of another headphone jack.
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And I think that like they will include some other headphones in the box, right?
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Whether they're USB-C headphones or Lightning headphones and they'll just call it a day.
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And then probably some, maybe at this event or maybe at another event next year, it has been heavily rumored that Apple's going to have some kind of over ear headphones that they're going to make based on the W chip technology.
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So I don't want this to happen, but I think it will.
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Yeah, I don't want it to happen either.
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I edit podcasts on my iPad and it's an iPad Pro, right?
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So theoretically we're talking about professional use here.
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And there'll be a dongle in the box, I'm sure.
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AirPods are not good on planes for a couple of reasons.
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One, they don't get very loud, which is mostly fine.
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But the other, so I was listening to an audiobook on the flight and about every hour I'd have to take one of them out to charge it for like 30 seconds and then put it in.
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And then I'd have to take the other one out, charge that, which was just, and then you drop them.
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I always see, you know, Myke as he seems to typically pick with his heart, whereas Jason's kind of like the Brady and like the Tom, John, I don't know sports. One of the Brady's.
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Yes, John Brady. Tom John Brady. John Brady who hits all the home runs for the Philadelphia Raiders.
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I don't know. I don't know why that's funny. Really?
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Real? Okay, cool. Then it makes sense. But I think he's kind of selling out at this point. Like, plugging the holes? Really? I think he just wants to go for the win.
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It's early yet, Steven. It's early yet. There's time. There's still time.
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Yeah, I will say that no Max and Max not mentioned on stage. Like, they are in our overall pick list. So I can still go crazy in the end.
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I agree with you. I think Myke's just a lover and he leads with his heart. That's what makes him a great person. But what makes him a really bad draftsman.
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Jason, would you like to go with pick number three, please?
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Yes, I'm going to pick something that I don't understand and I don't know why it would exist.
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And I don't understand the rumors and that's why it must be true and I can't wait to find out why Apple is doing it.
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Which is changing the smart connector on the iPad Pro to some other weird thing in a different weird place that I don't understand.
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I don't know why. I don't know what they've got up their sleeve. I'm actually, seriously, this is one of these things that I'm interested in.
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All of the renders that are, I guess, from leaks from people who want to make cases or something like that.
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All of the renders of this thing have an accessory port that's in a totally different location on the back.
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And I can't figure out why it's where it is. I don't know whether they're going to do...
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We have some theories about, which I'm not entirely sure aren't just wish casting by us, about them really embracing keyboards and having a keyboard shell with a real keyboard that you can use on your lap and not just on a table and is more laptop-like.
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But if they're moving the smart connector off of the edge and putting it somewhere else that's not convenient for a smart keyboard as we know it today,
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I'm not quite sure what that rationale is going to be. I kind of believe, because I'm picking it, I kind of believe those rumors are true,
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but it's a moment where I can't see the other side of it. I can't wait to hear the explanation and if there's some totally wacky accessory that we've never anticipated that they're going to come out with.
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And I kind of like that feeling, so that's why I'm picking it.
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So my thinking on this is, it's sometimes hard to remember that the smart connector is not just an Apple connector that only Apple can use.
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It's like a third-party connector but nobody makes anything for it.
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Yeah. We could probably list, we won't, we could probably list all the smart connector devices.
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So I have a smart switch, literally anywhere in the world if my server dies I can just go in and go "boop" and it comes back to life.
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That's a really 2018 solution to a 2018 problem.
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Please get me a new Mac Mini, I will buy it. I would love that to be.
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I'm trying though, again what gives me pause here is on stage in Brooklyn at the Opera House and they've got a brand new iPad Pro and it's really exciting.
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And I'm trying to picture Tim Cook saying "We got a lot of..." This is Tim.
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We got a lot of good stuff. He always introduces himself. He doesn't need to, we know who you are.
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Not on the keynotes, he comes on stage and...
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Imagine it, picture it. This is Tim, we got a lot of great stuff about the iPad to show you, but first...
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Jason, nobody, no one is predicting this is first.
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Wait, wait, okay, well let's think about this then.
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Well, now you've seen all of our great stuff we've shown you, there's a new iPad Pro, a new Apple Pencil, amazing things here today, but we do have one more thing.
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Or last, I think that it could be "Here is this Mac thing, by the way, we have another Mac thing and it's this little one" and then they just move on.
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I don't think they're gonna spend a ton of time on it if they do introduce it, but I think if they do something to the Mac Mini, it's gotta be newsworthy because they've done something?
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In how many days, Steven? Over a thousand?
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Well, I don't want to be lost in the shuffle of Mac picks and I want to make Steven happy, so I'm gonna pick a Mac thing too.
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I do think there will be a Mac thing there.
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Perhaps they'll say, "Well, we're very excited about the Mac Mini, but we also have a sub thousand dollar laptop that we're introducing that is new."
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Now this is a rumor that's been around a very long time in a lot of different forms.
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We heard that the MacBook Air was going to get updated, which is in our list, so we could pick that.
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Always seemed like a super bizarre rumor and we've seen some other reports that say, "No, that's not quite it.
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It will actually be a new model that they're engineering specifically to get back to that price point so they can finally kill the MacBook Air."
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Which I love dearly, but is rapidly becoming like the monster in a horror movie.
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That you think it's dead and then you open the door and it's still there!
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And it's so ugly, like a monster in a horror movie.
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I love it, but it's time to say goodbye. And so I want to believe there will be a sub thousand dollar laptop that Apple will provide us that is not just the MacBook Air with a slightly less old processor.
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So let's go through this for the sake of understanding the draft.
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You are saying a new laptop, brand new, that costs less than a thousand dollars.
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Yes, didn't we, one of us picked this last time.
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Yeah, this is the funny thing, we've never really had this before.
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Like about 90% of the things that we picked from were just lifted straight out of the September options.
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Because there was no iPad, there was no Mac.
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Anyway, so we're assuming that this will replace a bunch of stuff and is going to be a consumer focused laptop then, right?
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Yeah, absolutely. This is the, because the MacBook and the MacBook escape, neither of them have managed to get down to what this $999 MacBook Air can do.
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And the fact that Apple still sells the MacBook Air implies that Apple really, really, really needs a computer at that price.
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And what everything we've heard is that they still sell, to this day in 2018, people buy MacBook Airs with technology that's many years old at this point.
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Not as old as the Mac Mini, but still pretty old.
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And they got, the only reason they're selling it is because they don't have a product that they feel they can sell for that price because the MacBook and the MacBook escape are both what, $1299?
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We had an audience, I expected instant fact checking from the audience.
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But, so, which is not, they're at a price that is not $999, so I feel like they're going to shoot for $999 with this thing.
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Whatever it is. Engineered to be a new product. I think that's, amid all the conflicting rumors, that's the one I'm going to hang on to.
00:34:28
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And without necessarily giving stuff away for later, we'll come back to it if necessary, do you think that the MacBook Air would go away if something like this existed?
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Yeah, I think if there's, the moment that there's a brand new computer from Apple and brand new laptop that's under $1000, it's the end of the MacBook Air unless they've got like stock that they need to move.
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But probably it'll just be an X product at that point, it'll be gone.
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Yeah, it will go to education for a while probably, right? The MacBook Air will probably stick around and then it will go away and then it's gone.
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Alright, going back to the iPad. This feels risky. Like, I believe the rumors, but it still feels risky to me because there's a lot of questions.
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My pick number 4 will be that the new iPads will have USB-C ports.
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This seems weird. Now it makes a lot of sense for all the reasons that we've spoken about, but it still seems weird.
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Now the full pick that I'm making here is that it will have USB-C and that's the connector. That lightning goes away and is replaced by USB-C, that's the pick.
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I don't know how I feel about it. I think it would be great. I bought a Pixel 3 this week and it was really nice to be able to charge that device using the same charger that I use for my MacBook Pro,
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the same charger that was plugged in because Steven was charging his MacBook Pro, and the same charger that I would bring with me to charge my Nintendo Switch.
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This is what USB-C is for, right? Like, this is what it's for. And there are other potential benefits, other potential reasons.
00:36:06
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The iPad charges very slowly over lightning and this might be a way to help that, right? Because USB-C charges, especially the ones that Apple already sells, the ones that a lot of Apple customers already have are more powerful.
00:36:19
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There are lots of really good reasons. There are lots of questions. But I feel like if it's, again, as I said earlier with the removal of the headphone jack, like if it's ever gonna happen, like a huge hardware form factor change, which we're assuming is gonna occur here,
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feels like a good time to bundle some of this stuff up and it's a really good way to advance the rhetoric of how this is a computer and not just a big iPhone, right? Like it has the same charger as the laptop and not the phone anymore.
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Yeah, I think one of the reasons that I believe this is gonna happen, when this, the moment I heard this rumor and everybody was like, "Well, that seems really weird. First iOS device without lightning and with USB-C."
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My immediate thought was, "Well, it's a statement." This is Apple making a statement. I'm not sure how practical it is, but it's Apple making a statement that goes with a lot of their statements about the iPad Pro lately, which is that think of it more like a computer.
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Think of it more like what you think of when you think of a laptop. It's not a laptop, but it is, I mean, I know what's a computer. Everybody, every time I mention the word computer now, everybody says, "What's a computer?"
00:37:23
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But Apple does want to make that claim. Like, think of it as a computer. It does all the things that a computer does. What better way to just lay that down than to say it even has the same port as the computers.
00:37:36
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The iPhone doesn't, the iPad doesn't, but the iPad Pro does because that's what it is.
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And I have to say, even though that's not necessarily the most practical thing for Apple to do, because you are, as we've detailed, just trading one part of Donkletown for a different part, you're just going to--
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Yeah, you get your lightning adapters go away, now you've got USB-C adapters, hooray! But it does enable some things.
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But, you know, today, Apple doing something like that to make a statement, even if it's not entirely practical, I believe they would do that. I think today's Apple is the kind of company that would make that choice to sort of push you in that direction.
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Because it's very similar, it's not quite the same, but it feels a little similar to the USB-C thing, which is just like, we're going to drag you into the future.
00:38:22
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And so to say, you know, honestly, iPad Pro users don't have nearly as much investment in external stuff, right, because the iPad Pro doesn't work with that many external things.
00:38:33
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But if you do have a video adapter, and I mean, I was looking at my desk the other day and I still have like a dock connector to video adapter thing in there, like why is this--
00:38:42
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That's where I keep desk drawers. Mine's right on top.
00:38:45
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Yeah, but I wouldn't question you though.
00:38:46
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Yeah, yeah. No, I had that moment where I thought I need to make a little Ziploc bag full of things that have the dock connector on it and then hide it away somewhere far away.
00:39:11
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I think it makes sense. We've been so long where like the low end of the laptop line is just really messy. Like I've said on Connected, if you have $1,300 in your pocket and you walk in an Apple store, it's kind of hard to know what to buy.
00:39:26
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I had a friend text me today with that, like, "I want to buy a laptop. What shall I buy?" I was like, "Nothing."
00:39:42
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That makes a ton of sense to me that they've got to straighten that stuff out. So I'm on board with that.
00:39:47
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The pick, I think the craziest pick so far tonight, maybe you agree, is this smart connector business. Like I don't think Apple changes things that they forget about. And I don't think they remember there's a smart connector.
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It's like, "What are these pens?" I don't know. What would it be for?
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Maybe somebody has like a niece at Logitech and they just really need to make them happy.
00:40:34
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Well, I reviewed one and said, "I don't know why this exists," and now it's taking up space in a drawer. Yeah. It's next to the dock connector.
00:40:42
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The Logitech base. That's the product.
00:40:44
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I'm curious, Steven. Do you think Myke has become like a self-hating iPad user? Because he thinks the hole's going to be plugged, but he also thinks that USB-C is coming to the iPad.
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That just doesn't make sense, because it's pro... Like, sure, there's all these professional accessories you can use, but then you can't edit and you can't listen to music? I don't understand.
00:41:05
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Well, let me share something. The audience here knows this, but Myke is not sitting in front of an iPad. He's sitting in front of a 2017 two-port MacBook, which he told me today he loves dearly.
00:41:19
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That's not true. He's actually lying about that part.
00:41:21
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I do have a MacBook Prime in front of me. The reason is I need lots of Chrome tabs for the draft.
00:41:30
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He's here to win. He's playing to win. He's got lots of tabs open.
00:41:32
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Yeah. So, yeah, I just don't know about the smart connector. I know it was in the leak, so I buy it, but I have not convinced myself of a story Apple could tell, so that makes me jealous.
00:41:43
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Because that could just be literally anything. It could be a magnet. It might not be a smart connector. There might not be any smart connector on this thing, or it might have stayed. We don't really know.
00:41:54
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And your pick is a new smart connector. So to be clear, if it is something else...
00:42:08
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If it's something, yeah, if it attaches to a keyboard accessory or something like that...
00:42:13
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Yeah, that totally counts. If it fills the role that the smart connector had, which is three accessories, a logical access, something like that.
00:42:18
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But if it's a magnet or a humidifier or some crazy thing...
00:42:22
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Or a weird charging place where you can lay the new Apple Pencil or something like that, right?
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So Jason, it is round five. Pick five for you. What have you got?
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I think we've talked about Macs, we've talked about iPads. I think there's a product that Apple's been selling for a couple of years that's due for an update.
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And it's the AirPods. I feel like it is time for an AirPods update. We've had that rumor floating around for a while now. I feel like we're going to get something beyond just that case that they said would work with AirPower.
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Wouldn't it be amazing if they shipped a case that works with AirPower and they didn't ship AirPower?
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They're like, "Cheat, John." We love that, right?
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And so I think I'm going to choose that they will use this event also to launch the second generation of AirPods, which as far as we can tell are probably not going to be that different.
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The AirPods are pretty great, but there is a rumor out there that they're going to do a little bit of an update that will let you do the activation of a voice-activated assistant person.
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Hello lady in my ear, without having to actually press anything. You'll be able to just talk to her and she will answer and do your bidding. Or him, if you choose the British butler as the voice, which I do.
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Fine. The AirPods, it feels that it could be the right time for an update, but at the same time it feels like a product that there is no rush.
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There's no rush. They could just keep selling this for a while and for a while making more and more money from them as they're getting better at making them.
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Having Ahoy telephone support in it would be great, but I honestly would be surprised...
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So, okay, one of the reasons I think they haven't done this is because this next revision of AirPods was just going to come with a Qi charging enabled case.
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Right? Because they said when AirPower was shown off that there would be an update to the AirPods, which was just a case.
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It was a new case and you could buy the case extra and you'd just get the case and no AirPods if you wanted to, right?
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And the existing AirPods would get sort of slipstreamed in, they would get the new case.
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Obviously they didn't ship that, maybe because it was actually not Qi charging.
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Because it's unknown exactly what was going to be in AirPower, if it was going to be maybe a mix of Qi charging and something proprietary.
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And I've heard some people say that apparently it would be very difficult to get a Qi charging coil into the surface area of the AirPods case anyway.
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So there may have been some stuff Apple was doing, which probably all caught on fire, which is why there's no AirPower.
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It is an iPhone, well except for the fact that they're saying "Oh, we're getting rid of the headphones on your iPad, right, at your AirPods."
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Well, and I think about that this is going into the holiday season and that having refreshed their hardware and putting the lady, putting the Hoy telephone in more places, that that kind of goes along with it.
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And also that it's already a very popular product, but maybe they have a revision ready to go.
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And at some point you just want to start selling the revision.
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And I would imagine that they'll probably just update it, keep the price, the old one will go away.
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It'll still be kind of a slipstream sort of thing.
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I think they'll probably be exactly the same shape and the case will be exactly the same.
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Like literally it will just be the AirPods we know with slightly better feature, this always on listing kind of thing, and that may be it.
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I just can't imagine Apple introducing a new laptop that would be in the kind of the lower end of cost and it had USB-A ports on it.
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I think Apple really wants everyone to move to USB-C.
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I think they really would like that to happen because they made some interesting decisions about how their products have been going.
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Including if they put USB-C on the iPad Pro.
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That like, okay, like they're making some, that would be a very interesting thing.
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It would super surprise me if they were like, "Oh, we've taken the iPad Pro and put USB-C on it and the new laptop has USB-A ports on it as well."
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Because I also expect that this laptop will be super thin, super light, you know, and will not have any, like what's it going to charge with?
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I, what gives me pause is the idea that a product line that obviously still sells into education to a certain degree is if you don't put a USB-A port on it you are saying that it may be $9.99.
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But the effective price is greater because you will have to buy adapters for it.
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I will say, do you think that they would change that product, like they would add USB-A to that product for that reason?
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Like I know that that is a good reason but do you think that Apple would make that decision?
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No, I was about to say that I think Apple selling, today's Apple selling a product for $9.99 that essentially requires an investment in several dongles that cost a lot of money to raise the price to buy $100 or so.
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Is very much in line with their strategy.
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So yeah, I think that it will be USB-C only.
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I think that's kind of where they are going to go with it.
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I don't think they are going to introduce any other type of charging connector.
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I think that it's going to be that all that way.
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So I didn't have this on my list only because I am a little, I am torn between Apple being forcefully in favor of sticking USB-C on everything and Apple realizing that some people have USB-A devices and they don't want to buy dongles.
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Because part of me wants to say that Apple is just fully committed here and they just, you know, look, we are here for the future and you can adapt your old devices if you want but we are not going to worry about it.
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But then again, the brand new iMac Pro shipped with a bunch of USB-A ports on the back.
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Yeah, like 17. I do, can I tell a quick story?
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And people used it for various things. The big reason, the reason I think it was there, I think Jason you and I agree on this, is that there was a lot of software that required like a hardware.
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And so like this is a time where like the past doesn't really give us a lot of insight I don't think.
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Except that Apple is willing to break these boundaries sometimes.
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And I won't share what I think about your pick yet, but I do think that you know Apple has blurred the lines between the old and new when it feels like there's a good enough use case.
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So with my next pick, I'm going to go with another product that we haven't really talked about yet in terms of our picks.
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But I again, partly I want to spread it around a little bit here.
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And partly I feel like this is Apple's last shot to do their product updates before the holidays.
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And the holiday quarter is the big quarter for Apple.
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It you know not all the products you think of is something you find under the tree.
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But the fact is they want them out there, they know a lot of people come into Apple stores, they buy a lot of stuff.
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Having the new stuff in the Apple stores is a good thing for them.
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And so even though there are no rumors that this will be particularly exciting, it's good timing for Apple to update the iMacs with new iMac models.
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I don't expect that they'll be particularly radical.
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I expect there'll maybe just be some new processors.
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But I do think it's time to do new iMacs. Just a refresh.
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It's super boring, but it's important to Apple's business.
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But now with the idea of like yes, we need a narrative for this and it's not just we're pulling people into the future with USB-C kicking and screaming.
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We're going to continue to be like you can do real things on an iPad.
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I'm predicting literally -- I think there may be -- if I had to predict, I predict there will literally be a moment where if Myke and I were together we would high five where it will be like we announced USB-C on the iPad Pro and look it does 4K video.
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And it's like okay, we each get a point there and that's fine.
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These other things -- I actually don't have a problem with your first one, Jason, about art being included.
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Apple has become much more artistic in their events the last several years.
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The Chicago event was entirely hand written and beautiful and it started in the invitations and extended all the way through the presentation.
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But even at WBC the banners that are on the outside of the building, that stuff is just kind of filtered out to everything during these events.
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I expect to see that stuff even if it's just like the Apple logos are flipping around before Tim comes on like a screensaver on the projector or something.
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Autodesk said that they're pulling their stuff off of the iPad, right?
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It could be something like that where they're like, actually this new iPad Pro is so amazing and the new pencil is so amazing that we're going to bring back 3D modeling support.
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The letter of the pick and like the intention of the pick.
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Look, we got so many great choices here that we didn't pick because they would be entertaining, but they would threaten the sanctity of the draft.
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Well, thankfully, we have one last section.