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We're gonna talk about the weather in Snell Talk this week because Jason's been dealing with quite a situation,
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which is why we're recording a day later than usual. People usually think that we have something exciting to talk about, right?
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That like there's some embargo, but no, we were embargoed by power outages.
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Yes, yes, we were personally, I was personally embargoed. My house has been embargoed for a while now.
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What's going on in California, Jason Snell?
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Oh, there's so much going on in California, Myke Hurley. Really, so yeah, there, this is the, this is like a season that we have that doesn't exist in most parts of the world, but exists in California.
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And it's a season where there are high winds that blow, they blow offshore, so they're blowing toward the ocean from out in the deserts that are over the mountains in like Nevada and Arizona and places like that.
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And the, so this time of year, this happens and there are these immense pressure gradients between, you know, out in Nevada in the desert and on the coast and as a result, the air moves toward the coast and you end up getting these incredibly high winds.
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They're dry, they're warm, and what ends up happening is this is, and another thing about our climate is that it doesn't rain between like April or May and November generally, which I know is mind boggling for a lot of people, but it just, we are a dry summer climate.
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It doesn't rain in the summer, it only rains in the winter. And so everything's dry and the hot winds are blowing and there are fires. And a lot of those fires get started because electrical towers are in, forests are in tree areas that are very dry and the wind blows really hard and there's a spark or something falls or fails and explodes.
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And once the trees are on fire, the wind whips the flames and we've had some pretty major fire catastrophes in California the last few years and it always happens around now.
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So our local power company, or regional power company, decided that rather than being sued into oblivion by all of the people whose houses burned down the last few years, it would try to save people from that fate by turning off the power in regions where the winds were happening.
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That turns out to have not entirely worked because a couple fires still got started and they were still the fault apparently of the electric company, but what it has meant is that several million people in California have had their power shut off in the last week.
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Our power went out Saturday evening. We got plenty of warning. We did all our laundry, we charged all our batteries, but our power went off Saturday evening.
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And as of this recording, which I'm doing in an undisclosed location that does have power in the Bay Area, we don't have power.
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It's Tuesday as we record this. We may not get power back until Thursday or Friday. It's entirely possible.
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And at one point, I think this is not true at the moment, but at one point over the weekend, essentially our entire county had no power.
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So everybody in Marin County was shut down, as well as other parts of the Bay Area, and this has also happened a little bit in Southern California.
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So it's a mess and I have no power and I just, you know, I'm at a friend's place now where there's power.
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I honestly cannot fathom this. Like I will say that like, okay, this is obviously a very terrible thing and it is hopefully protecting you against something horrific.
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And these wildfires have been devastating over the last couple of years in California.
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Out of interest, Jason, do you have any suggestion of where like, if the people wanted to donate money to relief funds, like is there...
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I don't. I don't. If they exist, I'm not aware of them. But there's a lot. This is going to be a great episode, Myke, because this is going to be the episode where you and I talk and you tell me what's happened.
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Because I haven't mentioned the best part. So we prepared, we charged all our batteries, we did all our laundry, we did all those things.
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You know, the one thing though that I really hadn't anticipated is most of the cell towers went out and lost their connections to the internet.
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And so we have had no internet or cell phone service.
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Now our local Whole Foods that I famously bought, you know, peanut butter and...
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Manchago with Apple Pay, they have a gigantic generator that they had installed last week and they have internet and they have Wi-Fi and they're open.
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And it's been a zoo over there, but we have several times a day gone over and gotten on the Wi-Fi and checked in, you know, very briefly, but it's really not a solution to this.
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I'm aware that there's been some news and I'm looking forward to talking about it and you may be able to tell me more about it.
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But before we did that, I actually wanted to give a tech angle to this story, which is how we have, you know, the positive and negative about how we've weathered this extended power outage.
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And one of them is I am very happy that we have some large, large batteries, the kind of which you take on a plane with you.
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It's actually the two largest batteries we have are the ones from our Away suitcases.
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Away is sometimes a sponsor here, but you know, it's a really big battery.
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And so we have those and I have a couple other little batteries and that's been really helpful in sort of keeping our phones topped up.
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Yes, if it came down to it, we could just go, we could like go into the car and turn on the car and do it that way.
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But we haven't had to resort to anything like that.
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And so having those batteries has been great.
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I bought a few months ago in anticipation of this, actually, I bought a solar charger, which we can put a link in the show notes.
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It's basically I think it's mostly for camping, but it's this little thing that you unfold and it's got three big solar panels and it's got USB ports and you hang it on.
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I hang I was hanging it on my my fence yesterday afternoon and charging one of the batteries.
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And I'd say, you know, in a day it will charge one of those away batteries.
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I've been redoing stuff in my office and moving furniture around.
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I painted and it's the whole you know, I got a new desk and the whole thing is like setting up my office after five years in it as a temporary office space to embrace the fact that it's mine and make it nicer.
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So I've been doing a lot of those tasks involved, like rewiring and moving things around.
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And you'd have to unplug everything anyway.
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I will, we're going to talk about it in a little bit, but I will be not doing my usual coverage for probably a few reasons,
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including the fact that I have no power at my house.
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But we will, you know, we'll look at the numbers and we can talk about it next week about what's going on.
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As always, with Apple's business, we get this little peek into it. It's Wednesday that they're doing that.
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So there's something to look out for. It's been an interesting week so far and there's still a lot to go this week.
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Your updated photos book is now out. So take control of photos version 2?
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Yep, second edition of this because it was, it had a different title before it was the tech control crash course and now it's just take control of photos.
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Big update. It covers Mac and iPhone and iPad. And if you already bought it, I think there's a cheap upgrade price. I think it's $5.
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It's also, there's a bundle that they have for $20. You can get that book and Jeff Carlson's book about digital photography.
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And yes, this is how I spent my summer going through every feature of both photos apps for the iOS photos app and the Mac photos app.
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And a bunch of changes, a bunch of new editing tools on the iPhone and iPad this year.
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And there's actually a, the book making tool that came out last year for the Mac is actually, one of them is on iOS now too.
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So you can actually use iPad to build photo books if you want to.
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So that's all in the book and you should go check it out if you want to know more about photos.
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And last piece of follow up, many upgrade ients, including Glenn, who was first to tell me this, wrote in to say that the disappearing photos bug that I was talking about, how I was watching photos, deleting from my library and didn't know why, is actually a bug with VSCO, the editing app that I use.
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If you add photos to VSCO from their photos extension, this happens. But if you import directly into the app, it doesn't.
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I don't know why. I don't know why it hasn't been fixed. Maybe it's one of those things that they can't fix it. I don't know.
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But that's what's going on there. So it isn't an iOS 13 thing. It was a VSCO problem.
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Upstream, Jason Snell. This is a big week because the end of this week on Friday is when Apple TV+ launches.
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So there's a lot of content going around about TV+ right now. And we'll hopefully next week we'll be able to give our opinions on the first kind of crop of Apple TV shows.
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But the reviews are out. Yeah, we'll see. I might be able to. Well, I will be able to. Who knows if Jason will have power. Fingers crossed.
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But there's been, I'm going to put a link in the show notes to an article on MaxLerys where Ryan Christoffel has done a bit of a roundup with some quotes of the reviews from media outlets that have been publishing, who have watched the Apple TV+ shows.
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Apparently there is some confusion and head scratching about the fact that Apple have only provided the first three episodes of their shows.
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Apparently this is a peculiar thing to do. Well, critics like more episodes. And critics have gotten used to getting, like for HBO's Watchmen they got the first six episodes out of nine.
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They like, because there's this problem of saying, you know, is the show any good? And it's like, well, I only saw the first one or I saw the first three.
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So you can't necessarily judge the whole thing. But, you know, there's lots of weird things that Apple has done with the screening of these shows.
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And of course, with any type of media criticism, the views on all of the shows are mixed and across the entire spectrum of whether people like it or don't like it.
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But there are some general trends. And overall, it seems that For All Mankind and Dickinson are the most well praised shows.
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For All Mankind is the show about what if the Cold War and Space Race never ended and Dickinson is the kind of modern/classic retelling of Emily Dickinson's life.
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I can't really explain that show. I feel like I haven't got my head around it about what it actually is. But it's getting very well praised.
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The majority of the criticism, the negative criticism, is aimed towards The Morning Show and See, which are arguably the most hyped shows.
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And that could be why people are looking at these more critically. There is definitely a possibility for that.
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It seems that there is a belief that The Morning Show gets off to a slow start, but things pick up in the third episode.
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And See, a lot of the criticism is around the pacing of the show and that maybe they just spent too much money on it for the sake of it.
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It's kind of like the criticism towards See right now. And it seems that some reviewers don't really feel like they get it.
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So we'll see. But apparently there is, as we thought, a lot of gore and violence in See. And also just other types of adult-oriented content in the show.
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And the criticism I saw in one of my times huddled near the Wi-Fi at Whole Foods was that The Morning Show, I saw one review that said they spent a lot of money on a show that looks like it just could have been on NBC ten years ago.
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And again, I don't know how much of that is playing into the narrative where this is Apple, they're new, the knives are new to entertainment, the knives may be out for them a little bit.
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There was that story about the expensive NBC kind of thing. And I will point out that saying it could have been on NBC ten years ago, it seems really like a burn and really damning.
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But if the review was it's like the West Wing, people would be like, "Wow, that's great!" And that was, guess what, a show that was on NBC like fifteen years ago.
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So, you know, I think in the end this was inevitable because it's TV, they're not all liked by, right?
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Like this is, Apple's gonna take its lumps and they're gonna have failures and they're gonna have successes.
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They're gonna have critical failures and then what will be interesting is what the viewers think too.
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Because there are also shows that critics love that fail and shows that critics hate that succeed.
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And Apple's gonna have to go through all of that. But I, for one, after talking about this for two years, am looking forward to actually seeing the shows.
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Because as my pal Tim Goodman likes to say, "In the end, you just gotta watch the show."
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That's the only real way to judge it. You can't judge the trailers, you can't judge the hype, you can't judge the deals, you can't judge the marketing.
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It is the show. So I'm looking forward to finally crossing that line where they're gonna launch this thing and we can actually see this stuff.
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Yeah, and I'm personally, like, I've read summaries and stuff. I'm not reading reviews and details because I don't want to have my judgement skewed.
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Because I want to reserve my own judgement for these shows. Like, I'm not surprised that they are not a universal home run because this kind of content is always to somebody's personal taste.
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I have no interest in anything I've seen in Game of Thrones I didn't like. Now, Game of Thrones is considered to be one of the greatest TV shows ever by a lot of people. Or at least most of it.
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Certainly one of the most successful TV shows ever.
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Yeah, right, but it's just like people's tastes are different and I want to make my own judgement about Apple's content.
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But hey, you know what though? And I think this is why they've done this. It's free right now. So it doesn't matter.
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The more I'm seeing it's like, ah, clever. I feel like that's why they did this. They only have a smaller selection of shows. I saw some reports today that they're going to be launching new shows every week, every month for the entire year.
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They've just got content just pumping in. I mean, we know what's there, maybe six or seven shows at launch. We already know a bunch, right?
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That we've seen amazing stories. There's the Kamal Nanjiani show. There's so much content that's not here yet and it will roll out.
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But if it's free because you bought an iPhone, or it's free because you bought an iPad or a Mac in the last year or whatever, what difference does it make?
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It doesn't matter how good it is. It's free. And maybe you find a few things you like. That's the point, right? They hedge their bets against the content maybe not being a home run for everybody.
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Still more news though, Lee Pace and Jared Harris have been cast to star in Apple's Foundation series. So it's a couple of great actors there.
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Lee Pace you may know from, what did he play? Ronan in Guardians of the Galaxy?
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Yeah, you may know him from Pushing Daisies. He was the lead in that TV show. Jared Harris. He was in Chernobyl.
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So a couple of great TV/movie actors there. They've signed up for what could be a very big show for Apple. This is the Isaac Asimov adaptation of Foundation.
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And if you haven't read Asimov's Foundation, which was a bunch of short stories turned into a book written in the, I want to say '50s, I will just say that it basically doesn't even have characters.
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It's not by a modern standards. We did an incomparable episode about it. It's a weird series of books. But I would say that gives huge latitude to the producers.
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I think we talked about this when they announced they were picking this up. Huge latitude because you could do whatever. Like you're putting your own take on this idea as outline sketched by Asimov.
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But there's so much room to maneuver in there. So I'm looking forward to it. It could be very interesting.
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And in advance of Friday, the Apple TV app has launched on Amazon's Fire TV. So that is now available now if you are a Fire TV customer.
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So I think at this point, it's everywhere they said it would be. We haven't seen it on the web yet, but I guess that will come Friday.
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Yeah, I took this opportunity to install the Roku app on my TV because my TV is a Roku TV. And it is weird, right? When you open one of these apps, suddenly it's like you're using an Apple TV in that one app.
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It's very strange. It's because it is like the TV app on the Apple TV and it's all the Apple TV interface conventions except in a different device. It's very strange.
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I'm pretty excited, right? Because I feel like we spent the last two years focusing on this when maybe, well, definitely other tech podcasts have not been.
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At this point, it is both a joke and a serious thing that we focus on this on this show. It's like something that we have devoted time every single week to for like two years now.
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Great run. And this is the end of Upstream. Goodbye, everybody.
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There'll never be any more news about streaming media and Apple.
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I don't know how we're actually going to structure the reviews. It might be that next week we just spend some time giving some overall feelings on them.
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We're going to work it out, right? Depending on how much we have to say and also depending on how the next week goes. Maybe we want to stretch it out a little bit. I don't know.
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But we'll work it out. But next week we will be giving our hopefully Jason Wilbur, at least I will be giving my kind of first impressions on Apple's big, big shows.
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So see the morning show and for all mankind. There you go. It's a man on fire.
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I don't know what I was going to do that make any sense. And Dickinson, they're kind of the big shows.
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Maybe I'll check in. I think you got some kids stuff launching as well. I'm going to poke around and watch some of that over the weekend, which I'm very excited about.
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So Jason, yesterday as we record this, out of the blue, out of nowhere, AirPods Pro appeared.
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Yeah, well, I mean, the rumors, it's not quite out of nowhere, right? The rumors were out there for a long time.
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In the sense of, you know, we spoke about this last week. Is there going to be an event, right? Like, they put out a press release.
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They put out a press release. So when I say out of nowhere, I purely mean there was no event. There was, uh, there wasn't an embargo at that time.
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Yeah, there are no, so there haven't been any reviews of it either.
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There have been today, uh, there have been some YouTubers that have posted first impressions videos and unboxings, um, that seem to be embargoed.
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So I'd assume they got their AirPods Pro in the last 24 hours. They made their videos. They all went up at the same time this morning.
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So I'm going to put a video from MKBHD and from iJustine, both in the show notes.
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MKBHD is mostly kind of first impressions and unboxing and iJustine also goes through the whole setup process so you can see how that all looks.
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There's some interesting features in there. So they'll both be in the show notes if you haven't seen them.
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But they feature a lot of things that we're expecting. Some stuff that we're expecting isn't there.
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But by and large, this is the product that we have been expecting Apple to be making for kind of about a year, I think, since the first time we heard about what this product could have been.
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It was in a Mark Gorman report quite some time ago, talking about AirPods of active noise cancellation and kind of water resistance.
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And they're kind of two of the big things that this product has.
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So the active noise cancellation also comes with something called transparency mode.
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These are two different settings for how you can have additional sound or reduced sound with the AirPods.
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You effectively have three states that the AirPods Pro can be in.
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It can be everything off. So it's effectively just like a regular AirPod as we have them now, even though they go in the ears.
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But it's not doing anything special. You can have noise cancellation, right?
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It's using a bunch of microphones to measure the outside sound. And also this is wild.
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There's a microphone inside so it can hear what your ear is hearing to try and listen to your ear more, like to try and reduce it even more.
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Right. So that's the noise cancellation. Then there is transparency mode, which is something you can toggle on and off or leave on completely, which is effectively bringing in more sound from the outside.
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So, you know, transparency mode could be really useful if you were, say, on a bicycle, right, in the street.
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So you were having actual sound coming in as well as your podcast, maybe to balance that out.
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I'm keen to see what that's like, the transparency mode just on all the time.
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But another great usage of something like this is if you're using noise cancellation, you're on a plane, you want to hear the announcement, you quickly toggle transparency mode on.
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So you get that coming in and then you go back to noise cancellation.
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Yeah, I have used this because other, you know, headphones have all this.
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This is not like my Sony noise canceling headphones have an active noise canceling mode, a not noise canceling mode and a transparency mode.
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So, you know, it's all in the user interface. This may actually be a lot easier to control with this weird control scheme that they've got.
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You're no longer, Myke, I think you'll be happy about this, right?
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You're apparently no longer having to just punch a hole into your ear drum in order to play.
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This is, without a shadow of a doubt, my favorite thing about this.
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I've spoken time and time again how I hate the physical tapping of AirPods to try and get them to do something.
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This has all been replaced now by something called the Force sensor, which is hilarious to me.
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It's like that finally moved away from Force touch and now they've just brought it back again to the Force sensor.
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It's like a little indentation in the stalk of the AirPod, which is now smaller by the way.
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So the stalks are way smaller, like the AirPods themselves are overall physically much smaller than the previous AirPods, the regular AirPods.
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But you squeeze it so you can tap it to pause, you can double tap it to skip, triple tap to go back.
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It is, I can't find out right now how customizable they are.
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I'm not sure about like if you can trigger one for the Ahoy! telephone.
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I haven't got complete confirmation of that because it doesn't have like those double tapping or anything like that to trigger that anymore.
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And the Apple website doesn't say that there is a pre-built one to do that.
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You just use the Ahoy! telephone, you know, like the actual audible trigger word.
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But you can also press and hold the Force sensor to toggle transparency mode on at any time.
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So if you want to be able to bring noise in.
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And you may even if you have active noise cancellation off, you still may want to do that because these, they go in the ears, right?
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They have the silicone tips. So there's three sizes of silicone tips included and you can find the one that fits for you.
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Apple actually have something called the Ear Fit Tip Test, where you put them in and you run it in the Settings app.
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And it's using those microphones, right, the inside and outside microphones to make sure you have a good seal,
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that there isn't too much sound leakage or whatever, which is a very Apple feature, right?
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Like this little, this little extra little thing that they're doing to make the experience nice.
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And the way the case is built, it looks like, you know, basically they leave enough space in the case for the largest ear tips.
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Yes. Case is very different. It's now kind of more wide.
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It's kind of like if you turn the current one on its side and just like stretched out a little bit, shrunk it down a little bit.
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It's a very, very different shape. And as you say, they're doing that because they want kind of to be able to spread the, the, the kind of the AirPods further away from each other.
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So you can allow room for different tips. This will definitely mean that you will see third party ones as well, um, because it would be easier to store them.
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Yeah, but it won't fit, you know, that's the thing is like if you wanted to do custom ear tips, you could do it,
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but you have to take them off every time you put them in the case because the case will only fit those sizes.
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Or you could do them in like foam rather than silicon. Right. So there would still be similar sizes.
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Yeah. So I think we'll see some of that, but we'll have to wait and see.
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Because I personally would have preferred foam to silicon. I've never, this is the thing, I'm very, I'm very conflicted about this, this product.
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I have ordered them. They're arriving tomorrow. I previously have not enjoyed using noise cancellation at all, but Apple have said like they're doing some, uh,
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they say I have an innovative vent system to equalize pressure, minimizing the discomfort common in other in-ear designs.
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So I'm keen to see what that feels like because that is the problem I've had. Like the pressure makes me feel nauseous.
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Like I don't like it. Um, it's like that vacuum feeling. Um, and the, the kind of the MKBHD saying that like it's more comfortable for him than other headphones like that.
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The vacuum feeling isn't there as much. So I'm keen to see if that makes it better for me.
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The other is that in-ear headphones have never really worked for me. They fall out. And, but I'm wondering, these are so light, right?
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That maybe it won't be a problem for me. We'll wait and see. So I'm keen to see what that's going to be like.
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Uh, they're IPX4 water resistant. I looked this up, Jason, cause I didn't know what that meant.
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Um, and apparently IPX4 means resistant to water splashes from any direction.
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These are not waterproof like an iPhone, right? Like you can't dunk these, right? Like you would an iPhone.
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The idea is that sweat or rain or something isn't going to ruin them.
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Yeah. And it's probably rain resistance is the, is the best thing here, uh, than anything else.
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But don't like, I don't know, you can't swim in them anyway, but don't swim with them.
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Uh, you get up to four and a half hours of listening time of a single charge, up to five hours of active noise cancellation and transparency off.
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The case gives 24 hours more battery. This is pretty much exactly the same as the current AirPods, which is great.
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I would not have expected that they're smaller and you have the active noise cancellation, you still get four and a half hours.
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It's pretty impressive. They obviously feature the H1 chip, the newest chip that's in AirPods and the new Beats Solo.
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Um, the case is wireless charging, lightning charging. It comes with a lightning to USB-C cable.
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Um, when I originally saw that, I thought it meant it charged by USB-C, but no, that's not how that works.
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And, uh, that's kind of where we are. Like, have you, do you have interest in ordering this product? Like, have you?
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I am interested in it. Well, no, I haven't because I haven't had the internet.
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Um, I, my, uh, I should get a pair. I, I, I'm not going to go into great details, but yeah, I think I'm going to get a review pair of this this week.
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Would you like to come down and see us and the new AirPods, uh, Pro? So great. I, I will, uh, I'll do that later this week so we can talk about it next week.
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And I am excited. I, I use custom, uh, I have been using custom, but also like the silicone, uh, silicone ear tips for a long time now.
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Um, I, the AirPods actually fit my ears okay, but I prefer this. I prefer having a little more noise isolation. I treat the AirPods as sort of, um, the, you know, I can listen to them in certain circumstances, but like I can't take them.
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I can't use them with a lawnmower, for example, because it's too loud. And, um, after spending so much time with custom fit ear, earphones, um, in my ears, people, people are like, oh, you know, are you comfortable walking around with AirPods?
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Because you can't hear anything. It's like, are you kidding? I can hear everything because there's no seal. So how are these feel? I, I'm, I'm very interested in that.
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I'm keen to see if they pass lawnmower test.
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Yeah, well that's okay. Uh, it's a deal. We'll find out.
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No colors. We were expecting colors. Those are the rumors and it made sense that they would do colors, but they're all white.
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I feel bad about that only because I mean, I get it. White, white headphones is an Apple thing going back 20 years now or 18 years now. But, um, and I, I, and I get that at the same time, giving people other options is nice.
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And I think people would like other colors even. Yeah. Even if it was just a couple other colors, I think this is just a running thing for us on this show, which is, Hey, Apple people love, uh, personalizing their tech.
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And one way they do it is by choosing a color and it works for the iPhone. Let's do it everywhere.
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Um, there was a, so this was part of what we were wondering if, uh, Apple would have press releases and we were thinking back to when did they do all those product announcements day after day?
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It was like much earlier in the year, right? Yeah. I don't remember, but yeah, I think the initial initial rumors of this were earlier this year.
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So it's clearly something that they really, um, maybe they had trouble with, but they wanted it out by the holidays obviously, cause this is a great product to have for the holidays.
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But we were wondering if they would reduce release these products, these products along with other products this week, you know, maybe there's, there's, there's still things we want to see.
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The Apple tag tag as it's now called, um, get me Rambo found in 13.2 because that came out as well. We'll talk about that in a bit. Uh, air tag is something that is referenced in 13.2.
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So this is Apple's, uh, Bluetooth tracking device. So there's more smoke around that fire. We're expecting that maybe new MacBook pros and the kind of the wonder was, Oh, are they going to do this thing again?
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Where they have like multiple product releases coming on at different times. Um, and, uh, that was in March, uh, according to David in the chat room that Apple did this before where they had, uh, shots over the shoulder of Tim being posted to Twitter. Right.
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It'd have like different products and stuff that just kept happening. He had like an iPad, then he was drawing things on the iPad and, uh, Tim Cook's Twitter avatar changed yesterday to him wearing AirPods Pro.
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That just did that silently. So I was like, Oh, is this going to be a trend? But we're here on Tuesday. There have been nothing else announced tomorrow. We have earnings. So it seems unlikely Friday is Apple TV plus. So maybe Thursday for other stuff.
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Uh, there is a new version of Catalina, which has just come out today. 10.15.1 as it stands right now, there isn't a, any, uh, I haven't seen anything before we recorded about any more smoke around the MacBook profile, but we have AirPods Pro now.
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So there, as Jason knows, they're going to be out before the holidays. We can follow up next week, uh, about what we think about those, but there was also a bunch of software that came out this week. It'll also point revisions to Apple software.
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