00:00:41 ◼ ► Maybe our chat will give us additional information because we do stream the show live as we go
00:00:53 ◼ ► And so I will ask you this one from Snape, who asks, "How many windows did you have open
00:01:01 ◼ ► This time what I did was I sat on my couch, had it on the TV via Apple TV, and I brought
00:01:07 ◼ ► So I had a Slack open, I had a note open in BB Edit to take notes, and I had a web browser
00:01:43 ◼ ► I get overwhelmed by it and I'm more focused on -- I mean, sometimes I will tweet during
00:01:52 ◼ ► event channel in the six colors Slack this time instead, which I think was a better use
00:02:03 ◼ ► I mean, really the most that I did was fill up my document with my own notes about what
00:02:09 ◼ ► Yeah, if I didn't need to take notes like I do, like because we start recording immediately,
00:02:33 ◼ ► I did have a window open in my living room, a window open in the dining area and a couple
00:03:11 ◼ ► I got the higher frame rate display and you, and I missed on the LIDAR sensor and the always
00:03:22 ◼ ► You got that there are iPhone 13, that there is a camera feature that other phones do not
00:03:28 ◼ ► We were arguing a little bit while the event was going on about whether the macro photography
00:03:43 ◼ ► The notch being called out as smaller, which was a great pick because I thought they might
00:03:54 ◼ ► Like they said, cause we were like, Oh, maybe they weren't mentioned in a notch gets smaller,
00:04:06 ◼ ► So ultimately it came down to, and this was one of the deciding factors in the whole thing.
00:04:26 ◼ ► I'm still convinced there's going to be that jiggery pokery that we spoke about, right?
00:04:56 ◼ ► They, they, which is not like the last few years, they've been very slowly cranking those
00:05:08 ◼ ► I put my trust in Ming Chi Kuo who had that report last week that said, no, no, the Apple
00:05:24 ◼ ► And we'll talk about, I mean, I guess we won't talk about it later because we only are going
00:05:38 ◼ ► Comment to the design of the Apple watch, whatever the design of the Apple watch changes
00:06:07 ◼ ► The stage of the Steve jobs theater is seeing, you know, that tweet with showing the Joshua
00:06:31 ◼ ► We just need to see Jason Sudekis as Ted Lasso, his face, not just the name, not just mentioned,
00:07:02 ◼ ► I think the draft would have been very different if we would have had another round for iPads,
00:07:08 ◼ ► I'm starting to wonder if we should just force ourselves to pick in a category so that if
00:07:12 ◼ ► it basically comes out, if the product doesn't get introduced, then we just miss all of those
00:07:39 ◼ ► I was hesitant to pick this because you know, I've been burned in this category before,
00:07:56 ◼ ► And then that brings us to your last choice here, because as we've described it so far,
00:08:35 ◼ ► I just want to point out it is a shot of Apple Park at sunset that where the ring is, is
00:10:00 ◼ ► come down ultimately to the price points because at the price point, whoever was going to get
00:10:39 ◼ ► So we were going to come into today to talk about how close you were getting to the $333,333.33
00:11:00 ◼ ► We hit the amount of money that took us to $1 million raised over the last three years.
00:11:55 ◼ ► Make sure that you're there twitch.tv/relayfm on Friday September 17th from 12 to 8 p.m.
00:12:20 ◼ ► I mean, we can probably talk about this later, but I don't know now what I think about the
00:12:31 ◼ ► And given it's interesting the Apple watch they don't have now and they still announced
00:12:56 ◼ ► So the iPad is in San Francisco basically at the Exploratorium on the water by the Ferry
00:13:07 ◼ ► We'll have to mention those when we get there, but that's that's where the iPad was and we
00:13:12 ◼ ► We got the the iPad the adjective lists just next generation of iPad and the much rumored
00:13:20 ◼ ► and wanted I think iPad mini in iPad Air style so that which you know, I I'm by far more
00:13:34 ◼ ► Yeah, I know all of you nerds are bored by the 329 iPad with the A13 chip and the still
00:14:16 ◼ ► that there were all these cheap tablets and then Apple's tablets were just not competitive
00:14:51 ◼ ► So you know it's not a product that's exciting technologically for most of us who follow
00:15:04 ◼ ► It's always going to be trailing several years behind the other iPads but you know that they're
00:15:17 ◼ ► It needs to be faster than a Chromebook and of a reasonable price where they can try to
00:15:32 ◼ ► Hitting the slot it's what they did was they get they doubled the storage to 64 from 32
00:15:39 ◼ ► I mean the biggest feature on this iPad is the center stage with the ultra wide camera.
00:15:45 ◼ ► That's the I think that's the biggest feature on this honestly like everything else is like
00:15:55 ◼ ► think you're right the the 12 megapixel ultra wide with center stage which is this you know
00:16:06 ◼ ► out on the iPad Pro so it was a pro feature but like it's immediately rolled down to the
00:16:11 ◼ ► lowest end of the iPad line because of course it has this is just a I think it's a no brainer
00:16:18 ◼ ► I think center stage ultimately is going to be on every product Apple can possibly make
00:16:50 ◼ ► Yeah I was really glad that they this presentation checks a lot of boxes that you and I always
00:16:56 ◼ ► want them to check and that they frequently don't check and it gets frustrating like this
00:17:19 ◼ ► of people holding it in one hand with their fingers wrapped around it which is like the
00:17:23 ◼ ► most effective message to send about why iPad mini exists right is you can hold it in one
00:17:39 ◼ ► So later on what you know I'm going to talk about something that disappointed me greatly
00:17:57 ◼ ► a while now along with many people like this thing looks absolutely fantastic like so we've
00:18:04 ◼ ► got the great design you know the flat side design small bezels comes in a bunch of colors
00:18:12 ◼ ► Alright Apple, Apple we need to talk about your colors again because it's more confusing
00:18:18 ◼ ► now why do some colors have names and some colors are just the name of the color we have
00:18:40 ◼ ► options the Apple watch comes in starlight as well so my question for people look color
00:18:45 ◼ ► is not my best thing it's not my best thing I like colors right but I can't see them very
00:18:49 ◼ ► well certain ones and all that what I'm really asking here is is starlight just silver?
00:18:58 ◼ ► I think so because it's not pink because it's got a kind of a pinkish yellowy hue is it
00:19:11 ◼ ► starlight because most stars are well I mean stars are like there are lots of stars and
00:19:15 ◼ ► starlight can be lots of frequencies so that is from a science perspective it's very confusing
00:19:19 ◼ ► but I laughed when they said it because they said starlight and space gray and I thought
00:19:25 ◼ ► have we just gone all in on the like if you're facing this way it's space and it's gray and
00:19:29 ◼ ► if you're facing that way it's you're in space but it's starlight I don't I don't know also
00:19:34 ◼ ► space isn't gray it's really black but starlight really isn't this whatever color this is I
00:19:39 ◼ ► don't know what starlight is and I guess we'll find out is it is it just a rebranded silver
00:20:03 ◼ ► like whatever but there's the colors I mean there's a purple one I think it looks fantastic
00:20:13 ◼ ► now has an 8.3 inch display because it's right you know shrunk the borders down 500 nits
00:20:18 ◼ ► of brightness which seems really great on this kind of device yep touch ID power button
00:20:23 ◼ ► 5g it's basically an iPad air a little iPad air which is what it should be USB C it has
00:20:34 ◼ ► has better cameras it has center stage Apple seems super pumped about this in general landscape
00:20:41 ◼ ► stereo speakers starting at $499 order today available next next week you mentioned the
00:20:48 ◼ ► smart connector and I I had a moment where I tried to envision an iPad mini sized smart
00:20:56 ◼ ► keyboard or magic keyboard and my hands immediately cramped and I had to stop imagining it but
00:21:02 ◼ ► it is like you know you can always attach a keyboard to it Bluetooth keyboard or whatever
00:21:08 ◼ ► and use it that way too but it's a very small device is what I'm saying but it is otherwise
00:21:14 ◼ ► it feels like it's basically an iPad air which is great because that's a great iPad and now
00:21:19 ◼ ► the iPad mini is that way and also just the flat sides and all of that that whole styling
00:21:24 ◼ ► I feel like that's gonna be a better feel in terms of holding this thing it looked really
00:21:34 ◼ ► I think it makes the iPad mini much more appealing I'm super excited about this product I think
00:21:39 ◼ ► it looks really really nice like I'm intrigued to see where it will fit in my life like I
00:21:57 ◼ ► is probably the better product for those things but we'll find out I mean this also feels
00:22:13 ◼ ► the iPad for a bunch of things this one I'm sure you would never even notice it in your
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00:25:03 ◼ ► Apple watch time watch yes oh man by the way Jeff Williams I think in Big Sur he's on the
00:25:11 ◼ ► California coast regardless looks like Big Sur lots of people wearing vests and jackets
00:25:16 ◼ ► if they're presenting in this venue because it's uh it's foggy out there I mean I'm gonna
00:25:22 ◼ ► buy one I'm actually kind of excited by it but let's let's let's get to your you're booing
00:25:31 ◼ ► it was time for Apple watch to get a new look and although they made some tweaks that I
00:25:53 ◼ ► should yeah I think nicer is still maybe you know we're not sure because it's bigger right
00:25:58 ◼ ► and it I am intrigued to see what that's actually gonna feel like one of the things that I was
00:26:04 ◼ ► intrigued about would get the watch getting bigger with the potential of having a design
00:26:08 ◼ ► refresh is it may have felt a little bit more sleek on the wrist now I think it's potentially
00:26:15 ◼ ► gonna feel just a bit bit bit clunky but John I mean we we really don't know I I'll as somebody
00:26:22 ◼ ► who's had one on my wrist for almost every day since it shipped I think seeing them say
00:26:29 ◼ ► you know softer more rounded corners with a subtle wraparound effect and seamless integration
00:26:33 ◼ ► with the curve of the case like trying to get it to be a little bit less like a hamburger
00:26:44 ◼ ► of the thing instead having it be kind of a little bit more kind of smoothly integrated
00:26:49 ◼ ► that's gonna be nice I would like that crease to go right that crease being removed or the
00:26:54 ◼ ► little ridge that is on the current Apple watches from the screen to the case it's gonna
00:26:58 ◼ ► be really great and pulling out the the border right and having it be even 40% less of a
00:27:04 ◼ ► border than on the series 6 right again picking up that real estate I had to laugh at the
00:27:09 ◼ ► one stat which is it's 50% more pixels than the series 3 now the series 3 should not even
00:27:14 ◼ ► be something that we talked about except we're gonna have to talk about it because they're
00:27:16 ◼ ► still selling it but it is remarkable that the that the new one has 50% more pixels than
00:27:22 ◼ ► the essentially the original Apple watch pixel count that's that's good so what we're getting
00:27:30 ◼ ► here is what could very well be a really really nice evolution of the standard Apple watch
00:27:42 ◼ ► would be the year where they might take a little bit more of a leap yeah it was something
00:28:13 ◼ ► to be fashionable I think this one design style has reached its I think logical conclusion
00:28:30 ◼ ► and two they don't have the case that I want I'm a ceramic Apple watch where and I would
00:28:38 ◼ ► kind of case I would go for honestly because again they do a lot of colors starlight is
00:28:43 ◼ ► here as well I don't like the color aluminium watches myself they've got midnight starlight
00:28:50 ◼ ► red yes blue green in the aluminium which I don't know I don't know so I'm disappointed
00:28:57 ◼ ► silver graphite and gold stainless and a natural and a space black of the titanium and then
00:29:02 ◼ ► there's a gold one but I don't know what material that is but stainless steel in the stainless
00:29:07 ◼ ► steel the gold one yeah yeah so the the big top line stuff here also new watch OS features
00:29:21 ◼ ► features including auto pause and resume when you stop and start your bike the like outdoor
00:29:28 ◼ ► a bike workout it uses different algorithms to detect if you fall them off your bike they
00:29:32 ◼ ► say they better support e-bike so if you're riding a bike with a power assist it's it's
00:29:37 ◼ ► gonna do a better job of calculating out how much you're actually working everyone with
00:29:42 ◼ ► a power bike is like oh no right like they'll lose their rings so yeah that's right you
00:29:52 ◼ ► more pixels shrunk the borders tighten up the design of the of the watch and especially
00:29:59 ◼ ► the glass and the watch kind of contour 70% brighter display when in its dim display mode
00:30:08 ◼ ► indoors that's really good they talked about what fits on that screen that they redesigned
00:30:14 ◼ ► like the UI so it's easier to hit the buttons they can fit okay both there's a full keyboard
00:30:27 ◼ ► compared to again compared to the series six there's some new faces they talked about that
00:30:33 ◼ ► this the glass is more durable and crack resistant because it has more robust geometry I think
00:30:38 ◼ ► that's a really interesting example of materials engineering right where it's the shape of
00:30:43 ◼ ► the glass or the you know the shape of that surface that's making it more resistant it's
00:30:48 ◼ ► it's like they've probably reduced some stress points or whatever when it takes yeah exactly
00:30:53 ◼ ► it added ip6x certification which is for dust resistance so you know it's still swim proof
00:30:59 ◼ ► it's still fine but like they added this dust resistance qualification I guess there are
00:31:07 ◼ ► the dust and they're like oh no it's okay the dust ingress is it's gone faster charging
00:31:13 ◼ ► they have a fast charging with a USB-C cable unclear whether that's included in the box
00:31:21 ◼ ► version of the cable you gotta buy that separately but updating the charging and so they're they're
00:31:26 ◼ ► virtues here that they're extolling one is in 45 minutes you can go from zero to 80 percent
00:31:31 ◼ ► but I think perhaps more importantly eight minutes will get you enough for sleep tracking
00:31:41 ◼ ► minutes while you're brushing your teeth and getting ready for bed and then it'll be ready
00:31:53 ◼ ► me it was gonna look different because otherwise I wouldn't feel as frustrated as I do somebody
00:31:58 ◼ ► in the chat I will get their name in a moment Gwen suggested that I get the gold one to
00:32:03 ◼ ► match my phone and that's probably what I'm gonna do those I was thinking about gold anyway
00:32:08 ◼ ► because that's an actual watch color you know and and right you know as I said before like
00:32:18 ◼ ► I already know they've the one they were showing off a lot where like the numbers are kind
00:32:22 ◼ ► of leaking around the edge that's my favorite visually but I can't put any complications
00:32:26 ◼ ► on that I would assume which is a bit of a bummer so yeah look I what I'm gonna look basically
00:32:31 ◼ ► can you imagine like the the complications kind of oozing out of the side too like weird
00:32:38 ◼ ► so usable I'm just a little frustrated right I want it I wanted more here this is a this
00:32:44 ◼ ► is a good update but it's not enough for me I will be moving to this though because there
00:32:50 ◼ ► was some stuff that I do want to pick up like I want the bright or always on display because
00:32:54 ◼ ► you know that that got brighter in the series six and then bright still in the series seven
00:32:58 ◼ ► and I'm still on the series five and so that's something that I know that I would like and
00:33:03 ◼ ► we'll see you know and I'll move forward from there but bit of a shame I'll say for me it
00:33:09 ◼ ► was a bit of a shame the biggest shame though is the series three still around one hundred
00:33:18 ◼ ► at three ninety nine I think well your comment I think from last time about how it's just
00:33:27 ◼ ► all have to live with a series three for another year and and they're gonna keep the SC around
00:33:40 ◼ ► this fall for shipment so all those rumors about them having trouble getting production
00:33:46 ◼ ► ramped seem to be true in that they are not giving any time frame other than later this
00:33:52 ◼ ► fall for Apple watch sales which bumps me up because I am ready to buy a new Apple watch
00:33:57 ◼ ► and I would have already done it if they had let me but I am gonna definitely get one I
00:34:06 ◼ ► I'm using a series five this looks great bigger screen brighter I'm really looking forward
00:34:10 ◼ ► to it color wise yeah I have had a black watch the whole time and I presume you know I assume
00:34:18 ◼ ► that's where I will go I don't I guess that's midnight yeah it's kind of a bit blueish looking
00:34:25 ◼ ► on the website don't know or I may I may Myke I may treat myself Oh treat yourself Jason
00:34:34 ◼ ► and and go with space black titanium now you do you will be dealing of a weight difference
00:34:43 ◼ ► yes yeah I know if I if I leave the the light embrace of aluminum I'm gonna have to deal
00:34:49 ◼ ► with a different weight with titanium or stainless although titanium is pretty light I imagine
00:35:01 ◼ ► then there's and then there's a good old midnight midnight good old friend midnight you know
00:35:07 ◼ ► midnight starlight's best friend I guess there was some fitness plus stuff that they focused
00:35:11 ◼ ► they spent quite a lot of time with fitness plus I know new workout types does more countries
00:35:24 ◼ ► read the subtitles I don't know why they wouldn't do dubbing dubbing feels like the right move
00:35:35 ◼ ► is what they have in this phase and then they will go beyond that because you what you'd
00:35:55 ◼ ► they're exercising yes it's a peculiar choice I think and Myke group workouts powered by
00:36:12 ◼ ► kind of mentioned it in passing I guess it's sort of like a make your own peloton I don't
00:36:17 ◼ ► know I don't know what is going on there but yeah they spent some time with fitness plus
00:36:22 ◼ ► right just to remind everybody that fitness plus is part of the Apple watch equation as
00:36:28 ◼ ► well as the services equation it's where Apple watching services meet in the Venn diagram
00:36:37 ◼ ► off that they've got all their trainers and that they're there I think it serves a purpose
00:36:41 ◼ ► just to remind people that that is a service that exists and that Apple continues to grow
00:36:49 ◼ ► that time they've added so many new workouts new different types of workouts as well as
00:36:52 ◼ ► just like the weekly additions that they have you know the share play thing is like just
00:36:57 ◼ ► like as a reminder you've got to have an active FaceTime call I don't want to be FaceTime
00:37:01 ◼ ► calling my friends and having them look at me while I'm working out no that's not nobody
00:37:06 ◼ ► wants that but I do like the idea of them having some kind of group feature for fitness
00:37:11 ◼ ► plus but it being powered by share play I don't know man I don't know I just can't imagine
00:37:32 ◼ ► since we're in the Apple watch segment that we should mention that this is of course there
00:37:42 ◼ ► the store for a long time flick type was removed from the store by Apple because it was a keyboard
00:37:48 ◼ ► for Apple watch and then of course they announced a keyboard for Apple watch today yeah so you
00:37:57 ◼ ► know that's going to be apparently it is already another lawsuit so there you go yeah Costa
00:38:02 ◼ ► Ilethair you like yeah they posted a an image on Twitter I'll put it in the show notes of
00:38:07 ◼ ► their review saying that it was rejected because it was a keyboard for the Apple watch which
00:38:13 ◼ ► is against the iOS human interface guidelines but not for not for Apple unfortunately you
00:38:30 ◼ ► branch out with the Apple watch and that could be some new designs it could be some specialty
00:38:37 ◼ ► versions which don't necessarily even need to be they could be mid-generation right they
00:38:52 ◼ ► ruggedized version and also taking that original thing and refining it a little bit more I
00:38:57 ◼ ► do think that they need to to get there and and I appreciate your feedback on that it's
00:39:07 ◼ ► getting at and it has been a long time since Apple introduced the Apple watch and it hasn't
00:39:14 ◼ ► changed a lot so I do believe at some point that I am in a minority of Apple watch users
00:39:25 ◼ ► last few years every five or six days changing out my watch for one of the like five watches
00:39:48 ◼ ► fitness that I am willing to not wear my other watches for the time being because I really
00:39:59 ◼ ► to do a little bit more every day like all of that stuff is amazing and I feel in better
00:40:03 ◼ ► control of my health because of it in a way that it hasn't before like just its features
00:40:30 ◼ ► me for sure there are other features of this which I'm I'm kind of into and maybe it'll
00:40:35 ◼ ► be one of those things that like I get a new nice case color like I get a nice shiny gold
00:40:39 ◼ ► one and I'll be really happy I don't mean to like because I know people get like they're
00:40:45 ◼ ► going to be excited about it and I don't want to like harsh anybody's buzz on it like if
00:40:49 ◼ ► you're into this like Jason is awesome like I'm happy for you because it means that you
00:40:53 ◼ ► got what you wanted right like like you put me maybe somebody out there doesn't care about
00:40:57 ◼ ► the iPad mini but I really do and I'm excited for it right it's like different strokes for
00:41:05 ◼ ► the coming years yeah I think I think that's about right this episode of upgrade is brought
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00:44:33 ◼ ► the iphone 13 and iphone 13 mini of course comes in five colors pink blue midnight starlight
00:44:39 ◼ ► and red midnight starlight first star i see tonight it's that darth pung song right star
00:44:50 ◼ ► notch is smaller smaller sensor bar okay is what they said 800 nits of brightness at 1200
00:44:57 ◼ ► peak nits of brightness there's a much brighter screen for that phone which is fantastic uh
00:45:02 ◼ ► it features an a15 bionic chip which is still five nanome it's a six core cpu two performance
00:45:08 ◼ ► four high efficiency cores and four core gpu of a 16 core neural engine so interestingly
00:45:15 ◼ ► apple is binning the a15 for the iphone 13 yeah the pro has five gpu cores and the third
00:45:23 ◼ ► and the regular 13 has four so they are right out of the gate doing some processor binning
00:45:34 ◼ ► and some of them don't because they didn't qualify or whatever uh and and they're using
00:45:42 ◼ ► than in the in the non-pro model also i've been told starlight by muse not by daft punk
00:45:48 ◼ ► don't email mike no i'm thinking of a starlight by the superman lovers which is a french house
00:45:54 ◼ ► musician but not daft punk oh yeah it's the superman lovers that's the song i'm thinking
00:45:58 ◼ ► of so there you go now i've got that muse song in my head thanks the camera's a diagonal
00:46:04 ◼ ► now yeah this is the domino domino configuration so for those people who have opinions seems
00:46:09 ◼ ► like this is because of the uh they've put the sensor shift uh optical image stabilization
00:46:18 ◼ ► spread them apart a little bit more than they did before uh 47 more light and new ultra
00:46:26 ◼ ► wide of less noise and they got the cinematic mode video what do you think of that i i need
00:46:32 ◼ ► to see more i mean they did do a whole kind of funny uh who done it um mystery thing as
00:46:39 ◼ ► a demo knives out parody i mean let's just call it what it was yeah i i'm i i'm i don't
00:46:44 ◼ ► know exactly what's going on there is it all using portrait mode tech to do that it sounds
00:47:05 ◼ ► the way it works is you can do what looks like deep focus photography except it's video
00:47:09 ◼ ► and it is using some machine learning stuff they've analyzed how actual cinematographers
00:47:16 ◼ ► do rack focuses and things like that and then they built an engine that does it and it's
00:47:20 ◼ ► looking at the composition of the frame and where people are looking and all of that to
00:47:29 ◼ ► to focus to that face or tap and hold to follow focus on that there's a there's a bunch of
00:47:41 ◼ ► and i immediately thought i bet it's way more complicated and uh maybe not as effective
00:47:53 ◼ ► like ah ha ha we've eliminated the need for cinematographers and all of that which i know
00:47:58 ◼ ► they're jokes but i looked at the demo which is apple at its best right that demo is apple
00:48:09 ◼ ► like i don't i don't think it looked that natural you know i think the problem was with
00:48:34 ◼ ► because it's synthetic you can change it later like i think that like you you could maybe
00:48:40 ◼ ► be in a situation where you're like all right i'm gonna shoot this important family video
00:48:47 ◼ ► cinematic mode and i'll handle the focus part later on like that seems really cool or like
00:48:52 ◼ ► that you just don't need to think about it because for me like i'm not going to be able
00:48:56 ◼ ► to work this stuff out as i'm shooting because there's stuff that you can choose like you
00:49:00 ◼ ► can fix the focus onto a certain person and not necessarily rely on the machine learning
00:49:23 ◼ ► we consumed it and now we are it but anyway my point is that um it looked you know they
00:49:31 ◼ ► made it look simpler than it probably is and i thought that their demo was not as impressive
00:49:36 ◼ ► as a baked demo by apple should be it's cool and it looks fun and i think people will use
00:49:45 ◼ ► it and i like that they're doing some of this stuff but like even their demo i was not super
00:49:52 ◼ ► impressed with some of the the the focus moves they felt able to explain a little bit more
00:50:34 ◼ ► this is a cool feature and i like a lot of things about it and i like the whimsy of the
00:50:42 ◼ ► think it's that great and this is it at its best in an apple demo so we're gonna all have
00:50:47 ◼ ► to see how this actually works in practice i appreciate that they're trying to do stuff
00:50:58 ◼ ► more cinematic that is the end goal it's not to put any cinematographers out of work which
00:51:02 ◼ ► is nice because they had that one very nice cinematographer who was in the the pro video
00:51:11 ◼ ► from things that aren't movies with catherine bigelow so um you know he he still is going
00:51:21 ◼ ► people's home videos then uh that's fun that's great for me i think it was just i saw it
00:51:35 ◼ ► like and i don't really feel like i can judge it from a technical level or an artistic level
00:51:40 ◼ ► really i know that there was a bunch of stuff going on i'm intrigued to see it because like
00:51:44 ◼ ► there was a part of me it's like oh wait can i already do this like but i guess it's the
00:51:58 ◼ ► is choosing focus afterwards like that seems like a like a cool thing and i'm really surprised
00:52:09 ◼ ► is not as good as i hope maybe because i feel like that's the whole feature like in my mind
00:52:19 ◼ ► so i don't know we'll see we'll see i don't know and and keep in mind it's it's probably
00:52:29 ◼ ► bit interesting right yeah and it all like maybe it just doesn't look as crisp in points
00:52:34 ◼ ► i don't know we'll find out i'm sure i'm really intrigued to see what this feature is all
00:52:48 ◼ ► and so they think that it's important enough right now and into the future that it's worth
00:52:52 ◼ ► adding that into which is that is prime real estate right they don't add a lot of things
00:53:11 ◼ ► have been added in there over time so adding another one in there that's that feels like
00:53:15 ◼ ► a big deal so they said it's all dolby vision hdr graded and that kind of stuff i'm intrigued
00:53:23 ◼ ► right like i think uh i'm just intrigued i want to see how this works uh 5g there's 200
00:53:30 ◼ ► carriers now uh as said it's taking over 5g is taking over sure so that's good uh battery
00:53:40 ◼ ► about the iphone 12 and the 12 pro 2 but um it's it's the fact that they managed to improve
00:54:12 ◼ ► saying a bigger battery that they have managed to get you know they're rating it as an hour
00:54:24 ◼ ► phones also are rated as having longer battery life like that's really good especially for
00:54:28 ◼ ► the mini which the battery life wasn't fantastic on it so if you manage to eke out an hour
00:54:33 ◼ ► and a half more and two and a half on that mainstream phone the 12 that's that's really
00:54:39 ◼ ► good like that and i think that is a testimonial to the both the new processor but also the
00:54:46 ◼ ► uh a little more mature 5g radio find my support is coming to a new magsafe wallet i just found
00:54:57 ◼ ► like essentially when your wallet disconnects from magsafe it logs where you are yes which
00:55:06 ◼ ► is similar to the way that air pods work right now yeah so it's not what it's not doing is
00:55:12 ◼ ► it doesn't have like a little secret detector in there right but it is going to let you
00:55:25 ◼ ► that's really it's literally i lost it well where did you last see it the phone will say
00:55:50 ◼ ► think about this honestly the most important thing is that for these phones is that they're
00:56:01 ◼ ► there are lots of rumors out there that apple is going to be really messing around with
00:56:38 ◼ ► who are already using a one-year-old phone the primary market is for people who are using
00:56:44 ◼ ► a two three four-year-old phone the fact that they are able to hold their price points from
00:56:48 ◼ ► last year though and keep it at 699 799 the fact that it starts at 128 i actually think
00:57:03 ◼ ► like what do people want and the cameras are better i mean you roll it all together and
00:57:06 ◼ ► it's like for especially for the non-pro model like that's what you want you want it to be
00:57:17 ◼ ► nuanced but on one level i feel like like we can overthink it like that's what the iphone
00:57:23 ◼ ► 13 needs to be it needs to kind of keep going keep getting better don't ratchet the price
00:57:34 ◼ ► as well less but that's i'm not saying that in a bad way like but i think apple is just
00:57:38 ◼ ► off the s naming now they're just incrementing every year which i i prefer if they're going
00:57:42 ◼ ► to continue to increment every year yeah the iphone 12 was an absolutely fantastic iphone
00:57:53 ◼ ► awesome longer battery life like who doesn't want that and my understanding is especially
00:58:02 ◼ ► hour and a half right because i think it needs a lot more is the understanding i have from
00:58:16 ◼ ► you want these are all the features that you're looking for no uh no ultra wide on the selfie
00:58:26 ◼ ► the iphone 14 will have center stage support i think that they seem to be pretty pretty
00:58:35 ◼ ► an ultra wide lens in a in a selfie anyway because you could you can get better selfies
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01:01:03 ◼ ► because we did our tour of california that the iphone 13 was in san diego okay so shout
01:01:15 ◼ ► iphone 13 pro was jaws standing outside apple park at night at night because it's a pro
01:01:29 ◼ ► cupartino you gotta embrace the dark rainbow the yeah that was weird i thought like well
01:01:40 ◼ ► or something jaws is just outside apple park and i'll just a little bit of um stagecraft
01:02:11 ◼ ► those screens were real are are fake all the time right especially when they were doing
01:02:15 ◼ ► presentations in public places they can't have those screens just showing off the features
01:02:25 ◼ ► at least there's a screen there but it's replacement um but there's something about the jaws screen
01:02:30 ◼ ► that i think because of the darkness it just seemed extra fake the whole thing seemed really
01:02:33 ◼ ► kind of weird and artificial to me just from a pure stagecraft perspective and i wonder
01:02:45 ◼ ► of california we're gonna take you to all these places and now we're back at apple park
01:02:55 ◼ ► that's where we are yeah it's a big old camera bump hold on hold on sierra blue sierra blue
01:03:03 ◼ ► okay yeah color they have a real bright color so we've got graphite gold silver and sierra
01:03:10 ◼ ► blue this is different to blue and it's not like i don't know sea sea blue or like i don't
01:03:21 ◼ ► blue and green can be pro colors it went clearly run through them they just go back so next
01:03:26 ◼ ► time we'll get like forest green or something like that nevada green graphite so it's not
01:03:33 ◼ ► space gray still the graphite still kind of looks green to me or brownie uh i mean look
01:03:38 ◼ ► there was no obviously i was getting the gold again i absolutely adore my gold phone i'm
01:03:41 ◼ ► getting another gold phone um so i'm into that yep i'm assuming for you the sierra blue
01:03:47 ◼ ► might be enough to tempt you away but maybe we'll get to that in a minute because i know
01:03:51 ◼ ► we were talking about whether you would move away from the mini or not so again smaller
01:03:56 ◼ ► notch as the a15 chip it has the more powerful version of the a5 core gpu so the binning
01:04:03 ◼ ► here you know again more graphics power if you get the pro i think that you know i think
01:04:12 ◼ ► is by you know from the beginning saying that their chip you know chip features the best
01:04:25 ◼ ► gpu performance will be that much faster because it's literally it scales so instead of it
01:04:30 ◼ ► being four it'll be five and so it'll be that much faster it'll you know that's it won't
01:04:38 ◼ ► be that interesting i think in terms of the benchmarks there will be graphics based benchmarks
01:04:41 ◼ ► where it's faster it's probably not going to be something that affects everybody i will
01:04:45 ◼ ► also say that that gpu is probably necessary because they did finally do something with
01:04:55 ◼ ► it that is going to need more graphics power which is driving that new display up to 120
01:05:03 ◼ ► hertz so the display is probably where the biggest i think user feature will be but again
01:05:09 ◼ ► yeah you know as you said to me and it's the same that every youtuber has had for a long
01:05:14 ◼ ► time you can't demo 120 hertz in non-120 hertz content it's just not possible to give the
01:05:25 ◼ ► had to do something of showing like oh it's responsive and all of that but you know we're
01:05:29 ◼ ► all watching at presumably 30 frames per second or maybe 60 frames per second we are not seeing
01:05:34 ◼ ► 120 frames and you can't show you can't show hdr on a non-hdr you cannot show 120 frames
01:05:55 ◼ ► quite what that looks like and how impressive and smooth and nice that can be or in the
01:06:00 ◼ ► case of somebody like steven hackett how creepy and weird it can be and you turn it off but
01:06:04 ◼ ► like it's a you have to kind of experience it and they couldn't show it we're not saying
01:06:13 ◼ ► i mean when he's looking at 120 hertz refresh display he does get a little bit creepy and
01:06:17 ◼ ► weird that's why he has to turn it off to go back to normal it's like a kind of a werewolf
01:06:21 ◼ ► type thing looks at the moon yeah oh man that's he's like a screen wolf bigger brighter screen
01:06:26 ◼ ► ios of course has been optimized throughout to go with the 120 hertz i wonder what it's
01:06:38 ◼ ► make as a developer i don't know and if you're on an ipad you've already done it presumably
01:06:43 ◼ ► right like because this is the ipad already has this feature this is a feature that that's
01:06:53 ◼ ► but but it's a really nice feature that that's the thing about it is like we when promotion
01:07:02 ◼ ► think unless you're steven you think oh right like oh oh i see yes right and then you go
01:07:13 ◼ ► is really nice it's just really nice and the fact that they can um that they can do this
01:07:17 ◼ ► and that they can dynamically change the display rate it's all the things that we already talked
01:07:27 ◼ ► where you get that promotion feature and they're using the promotion designation for it which
01:07:31 ◼ ► i think is also interesting uh all the developers in the live discord chat are saying that it's
01:07:47 ◼ ► you'll be hearing us talk about how good it looks or whatever right and then you'll still
01:07:50 ◼ ► not really get anything about it this is just one of those things it's hard to to demo but
01:07:55 ◼ ► i do think it's going to make a real big usability difference um i think it's going to make our
01:08:04 ◼ ► wanted for a long time and i'm really excited about it they did not take that extra step
01:08:13 ◼ ► feature next year maybe because in theory they can do this now you know maybe they will
01:08:18 ◼ ► want to wait until the iphone 14 might get this feature then um and then maybe they can
01:08:24 ◼ ► attack it then they could announce a developer tool you know when they announce ios whatever
01:08:39 ◼ ► as being for the iphone 13 pro and everybody can work on that and then you know the new
01:08:53 ◼ ► i i don't know so um yeah we it's hard for us to get this across because this um podcast
01:08:59 ◼ ► is very cinematic and is shot in 24 frames a second so we can't there is there is a rumor
01:09:10 ◼ ► now that they've got the the um the xdr with the the mini led there's rumors still saying
01:09:17 ◼ ► they go into oled i don't know man i don't know there's lots of there's rumors that say
01:09:26 ◼ ► are true some of the rumors are fake oled's better than mini led anyway right all right
01:09:35 ◼ ► know we'll find out all right cameras cameras biggest camera advancement ever okay i feel
01:09:42 ◼ ► like they stayed they they bring out like they said most pro iphone ever biggest camera
01:09:51 ◼ ► pro everything because it's the newest best everything yeah it's always the best iphone
01:10:01 ◼ ► you you are you making your products worse over time of course it's the best thing you've
01:10:05 ◼ ► ever made but what exactly you know did they do and the answer is that they you know they
01:10:10 ◼ ► increased the sensor on the wide and they added an autofocus on the ultra wide and they
01:10:20 ◼ ► was a lot of refinement here of sorting adding adding features to some of the cameras that
01:10:40 ◼ ► which i thought was really funny because what they're trying to do because because you know
01:10:49 ◼ ► fires off and apple does all this stuff with it and if you shoot in raw you don't get that
01:10:54 ◼ ► i believe is kind of what happens there and the what they're trying to do here is create
01:10:59 ◼ ► sort of like some styles that are variables in how the pipeline works on photos that create
01:11:07 ◼ ► different looks they try to sell this to pros and there's this moment where i i was thinking
01:11:29 ◼ ► and make it and this is on the 13 and the 13 pro and make it look sort of like how you'd
01:11:34 ◼ ► like so is that a pro feature i'm interested to hear how pro photographers react to that
01:11:59 ◼ ► be able to tweak essentially apple's presets into a better preset and use that and that
01:12:05 ◼ ► seems to be what's going on with the photographic styles so i have i have some skepticism because
01:12:20 ◼ ► people with pro aspirations but they really need more help and apple is letting you dip
01:12:26 ◼ ► down into their pipeline and change a couple of the of the the settings which is cool i
01:12:37 ◼ ► kind of feature to make better automatic pictures right rather than what a pro might want from
01:12:43 ◼ ► it so i think like maybe maybe i could maybe make a use case for this so like i was interested
01:12:49 ◼ ► in pro raw because i like to take i like to take and fiddle around with photos right like
01:12:53 ◼ ► i'm not i don't consider myself to be a professional by any means but i like to take photos on
01:12:57 ◼ ► my iphone and i like to play around with them in um like visco and stuff like that and edit
01:13:12 ◼ ► maybe too much of a jump for me i've never used raw photography before and so maybe this
01:13:36 ◼ ► this but i think the point is not necessarily that it's for professional photographers it's
01:13:43 ◼ ► for people who care more about photography and want to do a little bit more with it but
01:13:49 ◼ ► are not going to go to just shooting everything raw and working on it that you know it gives
01:13:58 ◼ ► have questions about like exactly who's going to use this feature but the idea that apple
01:14:30 ◼ ► like if you adjust the color or the saturation in this way you're going to get a little bit
01:14:35 ◼ ► like i think i think this could be a feature i could really enjoy and the end result is
01:14:39 ◼ ► by the way and i think this is very cool um and again it's not for everybody but the end
01:14:43 ◼ ► result is that you can kind of create a look for all the photos you shoot with your iphone
01:14:52 ◼ ► so like you can make you can make a look that that is you know mike's pictures look like
01:14:57 ◼ ► this these are mike's preferences of how he shoots on his iphone and they're down in the
01:15:02 ◼ ► details of apple's image pipeline and so all the photos you shoot then are going to have
01:15:07 ◼ ► that sort of your preference applied to them whereas up to now the apple imaging pipeline
01:15:13 ◼ ► there is one preference it's what they were how they capture honestly i'm really excited
01:15:17 ◼ ► about this now i did not understand it when they were talking about it i don't know why
01:15:20 ◼ ► it just it missed i think hearing you explain it and looking at the website and like seeing
01:15:29 ◼ ► so like maybe they showed out and i didn't see it but yeah i i would say i'm i'm pretty
01:15:34 ◼ ► into this idea i think this could definitely be something just for me it's not a lot of
01:15:38 ◼ ► sliders i think that they showed two so it's like you get you get looks and then you've
01:15:46 ◼ ► time able to sort of set up a preference of how apple's image pipeline works to make images
01:16:05 ◼ ► fun idea pro res video was one of the things that they did add this is for the pro which
01:16:10 ◼ ► is again it's like adding pro roll last time maybe they'll add something next time which
01:16:25 ◼ ► for ultra wide which i'm really into because the low light performance on the ultra wide
01:16:34 ◼ ► a bunch of ways that people who like photography will probably like like loads of statistics
01:16:39 ◼ ► that i don't get right yeah we're going to a three times optical zoom which is interesting
01:16:49 ◼ ► times optical zoom i think it might be a little too much so i'm intrigued to see what i think
01:16:54 ◼ ► about that from the iphone what i am personally really excited about is macro photography
01:16:59 ◼ ► they're using the new autofocus mode on the ultra wide and you can get up to a two centimeter
01:17:05 ◼ ► distance and it really has like a very different look i've wanted macro on an iphone for a
01:17:10 ◼ ► long time because sometimes it's like a little picture that i want to take i want to zoom
01:17:13 ◼ ► in a lot and i kind of can't get it or i can't get the details the way that i want and so
01:17:27 ◼ ► about macro like some of the shots that they show look really good because one of the things
01:17:31 ◼ ► on a lot of phones with macro lenses is they put a specific macro lens on it which is low
01:17:35 ◼ ► quality but the images that apple is showing it also does macro video as well looks really
01:17:46 ◼ ► stuff to be honest i'm actually pretty excited about it more than i was i feel like more
01:17:52 ◼ ► practically excited this time than last time because the iphone 12 pro max there was like
01:18:03 ◼ ► it made a massive difference right like year over year from pro to pro with the pro max
01:18:08 ◼ ► um it was a better camera but we i think we're all thinking like oh my god have they finally
01:18:13 ◼ ► done this massive jump and i don't know how much of a big jump that it was like the sensor
01:18:17 ◼ ► shift stuff so but for me these features like the optical zoom i'm intrigued about but it
01:18:29 ◼ ► the the photo uh styles is that what it's called uh yeah i think so styles photographic
01:18:41 ◼ ► do with my phone's camera so i'm excited about those nice 1.5 hours longer battery on the
01:18:47 ◼ ► pro two and a half hours longer on the pro max jason this phone is going to last longer
01:18:59 ◼ ► like i've noticed that you know as i've been leaving my house more and we went traveling
01:19:08 ◼ ► just how how powerful the battery was um and now it's like just it's just gonna go forever
01:19:19 ◼ ► expected this year uh a battery jump let alone one of that kind two and a half hours is amazing
01:19:25 ◼ ► i'm curious how much of the battery gain they mentioned that the battery is bigger in all
01:19:31 ◼ ► of them so obviously they're saving size in some way in the internals they've found more
01:19:35 ◼ ► room for battery what's that about but i've got to think that the the 5g like it's a year
01:19:49 ◼ ► apple was there at the 5g rollout you know last year it's still a pretty young technology
01:19:54 ◼ ► they've got a new 5g radio this year i assume that is we're in such early days for 5g that
01:20:13 ◼ ► qualcomm modem but it's the idea that you can if you're only getting lte speeds it drops
01:20:17 ◼ ► you down to lte and so that's a battery saver too so i i wonder how much of their battery
01:20:32 ◼ ► know what i think i might be able to answer that for you jason so oh yeah this is iphone
01:20:36 ◼ ► 12 pro max to iphone 13 pro max on apple's power and battery page so video playback goes
01:20:42 ◼ ► from 20 hours to 28 hours audio playback goes from 80 hours to 95 hours video playback streamed
01:20:50 ◼ ► from 12 hours to 25 hours uh-huh that difference in the streamed is nearly is over double yeah
01:20:58 ◼ ► and it's not that big a difference for the other for the other areas so maybe it is your
01:21:03 ◼ ► modem about the 5g right like there's something going on there that's that's a huge difference
01:21:07 ◼ ► because video playback without streaming is an eight hour difference is that a streaming
01:21:19 ◼ ► victory you know there are lots of different ways that battery life gets extended but i
01:21:24 ◼ ► i've got to think that 5g modems being better is a big part of it plus the battery is bigger
01:21:31 ◼ ► plus the a15 is probably more efficient plus they've probably found other places that they
01:21:42 ◼ ► sometimes the battery life is the most important feature in your phone if you you know if you
01:21:47 ◼ ► have to if you lose your phone because it's died or you have to bring a battery pack around
01:21:58 ◼ ► way in the last few years with battery life but to continue making those kinds of improvements
01:22:03 ◼ ► is a big deal and i'm honestly surprised that they have increased it with the promotion
01:22:11 ◼ ► because most phones that go to high refresh rate or adaptive refresh rate displays they
01:22:17 ◼ ► see a battery life hit like this is something samsung has seen oneplus has seen they see
01:22:22 ◼ ► a battery life hit i think this must be apple being really aggressive in terms of how they
01:22:26 ◼ ► handle video and cranking down the frame rate when you're not using it that they had that
01:22:35 ◼ ► all the other companies are building on android they've built their own controller and they've
01:22:38 ◼ ► got right like apple's done a whole custom job and and i'm not surprised that they would
01:22:42 ◼ ► be eking out better battery life because of that and these phones can go up to one terabyte
01:23:05 ◼ ► what the gold one will cost let me make a difference one thousand five hundred and ninety
01:23:45 ◼ ► you have a feeling about what you will be going for with your iphone uh i'm still thinking
01:23:53 ◼ ► about it i'm inclined to go with the the mini just because i have loved um the mini for
01:23:59 ◼ ► the last year and i think that that is you know i just i i like the size and then i hold
01:24:04 ◼ ► a larger phone in my hand and i think oh no like this is this is too much that that said
01:24:25 ◼ ► it seems like they haven't changed a lot in terms of the look and i i liked the look of
01:24:31 ◼ ► the 12 better than the 12 pro and if that's still the case which it seems like it is um
01:24:37 ◼ ► that's going to factor in too that i just like how it looks but them having a blue model
01:24:42 ◼ ► even though it's kind of a boring blue they have a blue pro uh i'm intrigued by that like
01:24:47 ◼ ► i'm i'm on i'm i'm not mike you were saying i was on the fence last time i'm not on the
01:25:03 ◼ ► of these sooner than other people it's happened in the past maybe it will this time or at
01:25:10 ◼ ► you'll help other mini i hope so just make their decision because if i think really it's
01:25:24 ◼ ► i don't know but i already know where i sit in that camp and for me it is a like it will
01:25:40 ◼ ► need anything else personally this it's got what i want it's got better cameras i always
01:26:00 ◼ ► bigger battery life as well take it i'll have it and it's and they've also re-upped that
01:26:33 ◼ ► that the pro max has that differentiates it from the pro phone because obviously we have
01:26:39 ◼ ► to because all of them have the sensor shift now um i don't think there's i'm looking at
01:26:46 ◼ ► their website real quick it got like what bigger screen uh there's no other like dividing
01:26:58 ◼ ► um of the phone yeah so overall uh how you feeling about this event i think it was fine
01:27:05 ◼ ► i think it was a it was exactly what it needed to be other than the ipad stuff which was
01:27:38 ◼ ► faint praise i want to say it is exactly what apple needs to do this was not an event that
01:27:50 ◼ ► doing its best because every year it's going to come out with new iphones and they're going
01:27:53 ◼ ► to be incrementally better and every now and then they do something that's more you know
01:28:10 ◼ ► was fine um it was all all okay i know you're disappointed about the apple watch i'm excited
01:28:28 ◼ ► people always are for the next big revolutionary thing no of course it wasn't that it was this
01:28:47 ◼ ► disappointed in one thing but i got something i didn't think i was going to get out of this
01:28:56 ◼ ► shipped is exactly what i wanted them to do and kind of expected them to do and they've
01:29:04 ◼ ► fine with that pre-orders for iphones begin this friday also shipping on the 24th um so
01:29:11 ◼ ► uh luckily i just checked the pre-order opens at 1 p.m here for me because i really didn't
01:29:21 ◼ ► from my time zone the podcastathon starts at five o'clock so i will have my opportunity
01:29:26 ◼ ► to try and get my iphone pre-order in in time so i could pick it up the week after along
01:29:34 ◼ ► same time so yeah that was it that was the september event that's it that's one one for
01:29:52 ◼ ► you can go to getupgradeplus.com and you can sign up there i would like to thank instabug,
01:29:57 ◼ ► uni and fitbod for their support of this episode um i will also like to remind you of two things
01:30:05 ◼ ► stgeo.org/relay this is where you can go to donate to help us in supporting stgeo children's
01:30:11 ◼ ► research hospital who are defeating childhood cancer that's their entire thing which it's
01:30:24 ◼ ► do super important twitch.tv/relayfm be there on september the 17th from 12 to 8 pm eastern
01:30:32 ◼ ► time for the third annual relay fm podcastathon for st. jude's children's research hospital
01:30:38 ◼ ► i'll be there jason's gonna be there jason's gonna be there in a big way we're just gonna
01:30:42 ◼ ► be all snail all the time not all oh i'm feeling well no i'm feeling a lot of the time a one
01:30:47 ◼ ► eighth of the time more than one eighth of the time yeah more than we say that more than
01:30:51 ◼ ► jason's jason's got a bunch of exciting things 15 of the podcastathon i'll be pressing on
01:30:57 ◼ ► how about that jason might be on it more than me who knows i hope not i'm getting really
01:31:01 ◼ ► prepared over here i am oh boy jason i'm just my studio is being destroyed right now i'm
01:31:07 ◼ ► not kidding every piece of equipment that i own for video and audio is being dismantled
01:31:14 ◼ ► and put to use in different places it is but i'm very excited like i've been working really
01:31:19 ◼ ► hard like me and adino my wife i've been working really hard over the last couple of days and
01:31:23 ◼ ► continue to be working all the way up until friday afternoon and from my side things are
01:31:33 ◼ ► i really hope that you'll join us even for some of that time we'd really really appreciate
01:31:41 ◼ ► there's going to be tons of great uh writing about this event over at six colors and you
01:31:46 ◼ ► can follow follow jason he's @jasonel j s n e double l on twitter i am i mike i m y k e we'll