Upgrade

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00:00:08 ◼   ► From Relay FM, this is Upgrade, episode 373. Today's show is brought to you by TextExpander from Smile, Amazon Music, and Details Pro.

00:00:18 ◼   ► My name is Myke Hurley and I'm joined by Jason Snow. Hi, Jason Snow.

00:00:22 ◼   ► I'm Myke Hurley.

00:00:22 ◼   ► Big episode today.

00:00:24 ◼   ► So much going on. Huge! Two product reviews! Two! In one show!

00:00:29 ◼   ► You know, the September/October high season for Apple stuff.

00:00:33 ◼   ► It's great, but it's also very busy and there's lots and we have to pack stuff in and you know, it can't all even fit.

00:00:38 ◼   ► We were talking about this, I think last night, and we said, "Oh, we've got a big show tomorrow."

00:00:43 ◼   ► And I realized like what we would also usually have around this time is the Apple Watch, which we don't yet.

00:00:49 ◼   ► And I will say, just this, I have been getting more excited about replacing my Apple Watch.

00:00:54 ◼   ► Hmm.

00:00:55 ◼   ► I think actually WatchOS 8 has been one of these things. I really like that the buttons are bigger.

00:01:01 ◼   ► Just everywhere. Like touch targets are larger in WatchOS 8, which I like.

00:01:05 ◼   ► But that also makes me think, "Oh, a slightly bigger screen would probably be good too."

00:01:09 ◼   ► Mm-hmm.

00:01:10 ◼   ► That's how I get you.

00:01:11 ◼   ► That is.

00:01:12 ◼   ► Wave hashtag's not a whole question. It comes from Marlies who asks,

00:01:15 ◼   ► "Do you enable low power mode when your phone warns you that it's at 20% or do you like to live dangerously?"

00:01:22 ◼   ► Well, I need to stipulate that I don't actually go places and do things anymore.

00:01:30 ◼   ► And so I remember, "Oh, low power mode. I remember low power mode."

00:01:34 ◼   ► Oh, that's when you're out somewhere for a long time.

00:01:39 ◼   ► I would absolutely turn it on at 20% unless I knew I was literally just being lazy and not walking over and plugging my phone in,

00:01:47 ◼   ► which sometimes is the case, right?

00:01:48 ◼   ► It's like, "No, I'm going to run it all the way down because I'll just plug it in when I'm done doing what I'm doing."

00:01:53 ◼   ► But if you're out and about and you get that warning, I absolutely turn it on.

00:01:56 ◼   ► And in fact, I have, over the course of the existence of low power mode,

00:02:00 ◼   ► a bunch of times I've looked at my phone and seen it at like 50% and thought,

00:02:06 ◼   ► "Oh boy, I'm in trouble and I will enable low power mode preemptively before I hit 20%."

00:02:15 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:02:15 ◼   ► Because I realize I'm going to be out for a while and this is going to be a marathon and I'm in trouble.

00:02:19 ◼   ► If I was traveling somewhere, I will always put low power mode on as I leave it.

00:02:25 ◼   ► It's like it goes on, you know?

00:02:27 ◼   ► Which is actually thinking about that focus mode stuff.

00:02:30 ◼   ► I'd probably, because I've started working on my travel focus mode,

00:02:33 ◼   ► just getting it ready for when that happens.

00:02:35 ◼   ► And maybe I could set up a shortcuts automation that whenever that one is enabled,

00:02:40 ◼   ► low power mode gets turned on immediately.

00:02:43 ◼   ► You know, it could be kind of cool.

00:02:45 ◼   ► I like that.

00:02:46 ◼   ► But I pretty much always turn it on when a device warns me, including my iPad now.

00:02:51 ◼   ► My iPad now will say, "Hey, low power mode."

00:02:53 ◼   ► Which is nice. I'm happy they added that finally.

00:02:56 ◼   ► If you'd like to send in a question to help us answer to open an episode of the show,

00:03:03 ◼   ► just send out a tweet with the hashtag #snowtalk or use question mark snow talk in the Relay FM members discord.

00:03:08 ◼   ► For the final time this year, we would like to tell you about the work of

00:03:11 ◼   ► St. Jude Children's Research Hospital.

00:03:13 ◼   ► We, believe it or not, Jason, this is the final episode of September.

00:03:16 ◼   ► Yeah, well that's okay because it keeps going.

00:03:21 ◼   ► I'm glad, like I don't need more weeks.

00:03:23 ◼   ► Can you imagine if September was longer?

00:03:25 ◼   ► It's fine the way it is.

00:03:26 ◼   ► 38 days is plenty.

00:03:27 ◼   ► This is enough September.

00:03:29 ◼   ► September is Childhood Cancer Awareness Month,

00:03:32 ◼   ► and so we are supporting the life-saving mission of

00:03:34 ◼   ► St. Jude Children's Research Hospital,

00:03:36 ◼   ► which is finding cures and saving children.

00:03:39 ◼   ► Because for almost 60 years,

00:03:41 ◼   ► St. Jude Children's Research Hospital has been on the frontlines of research, care, and treatment of childhood cancer.

00:03:46 ◼   ► Treatments invented at St. Jude have helped push the overall childhood cancer survival rate from 20% to more than 80% since they opened.

00:03:54 ◼   ► But with one in five children not surviving,

00:03:56 ◼   ► St. Jude will not stop until no child dies from cancer,

00:04:00 ◼   ► but they need our support.

00:04:02 ◼   ► This September, the Relay FM community has come together to raise over half a million dollars for the kids of St. Jude.

00:04:07 ◼   ► We're currently at $564,000 while we're recording this,

00:04:11 ◼   ► which is a truly unbelievable astronomical number.

00:04:15 ◼   ► You can be a part of our best year ever by making a donation at stjude.org/relay.

00:04:20 ◼   ► And if you donate a single gift of $100 or more,

00:04:22 ◼   ► you'll receive an exclusive Relay FM sticker thanks pack at the end of the campaign.

00:04:26 ◼   ► Don't forget, if your company matches donations,

00:04:28 ◼   ► please send us an email at stephen@relay.fm,

00:04:31 ◼   ► and we can double your donation in some cases.

00:04:34 ◼   ► So go to stjude.org/relay, and you can give today and support the work of St. Jude,

00:04:40 ◼   ► and let's cure childhood cancer together.

00:04:42 ◼   ► It's been an incredible month.

00:04:44 ◼   ► As we're recording, what's the current number, $564,000?

00:04:48 ◼   ► Is that it?

00:04:49 ◼   ► All right, well, I'm setting a new goal.

00:04:52 ◼   ► By the end of this month, Relay needs to reach a million dollars.

00:04:56 ◼   ► Why would you do that, Jason?

00:04:57 ◼   ► So everybody go out there and donate.

00:04:59 ◼   ► This is the Snell goal.

00:05:01 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah.

00:05:02 ◼   ► Only four days left to go or whatever.

00:05:04 ◼   ► Three days left to go?

00:05:05 ◼   ► It's totally doable.

00:05:07 ◼   ► People just need to go donate before.

00:05:09 ◼   ► Let's get that number as high as we can.

00:05:11 ◼   ► How about that by the end of the month?

00:05:12 ◼   ► Because remember, the higher we set the bar this month,

00:05:16 ◼   ► if you haven't donated yet, if you decide to wait till the end,

00:05:18 ◼   ► the higher we set that bar this month,

00:05:20 ◼   ► the higher the bar will be next year for Myke and Steven.

00:05:23 ◼   ► Only if we meet it, Jason.

00:05:24 ◼   ► The more ridiculous things.

00:05:25 ◼   ► No, it doesn't matter.

00:05:26 ◼   ► It doesn't matter.

00:05:27 ◼   ► No?

00:05:28 ◼   ► If you finish at $560,

00:05:29 ◼   ► everybody's going to remember $560,

00:05:31 ◼   ► and you're going to have to go above $560.

00:05:32 ◼   ► No, I'm just talking about your million that you've decided to set.

00:05:34 ◼   ► Oh, my million goal.

00:05:35 ◼   ► Well, I was just trying to be aspirational there.

00:05:38 ◼   ► But my point is if we get them to $600,000,

00:05:41 ◼   ► it's going to be like, "Oh, man, we've got to beat."

00:05:42 ◼   ► Whatever number it is, they're going to have to beat it next year.

00:05:46 ◼   ► And that means that I don't know what strange things they're going to do,

00:05:51 ◼   ► Myke and Steven are going to do to each other,

00:05:53 ◼   ► what stickers are going to have to go wear,

00:05:55 ◼   ► what clothing they're going to have to wear,

00:05:57 ◼   ► what devices they're going to have to use,

00:05:58 ◼   ► but it's only going to get better or worse depending on whether you're them or not.

00:06:02 ◼   ► So just keep lifting up that number.

00:06:04 ◼   ► I have hundreds of more stickers arriving this week because I ran out,

00:06:10 ◼   ► and then I have to go back to finding somewhere to stick them on this desk.

00:06:14 ◼   ► I think I'm going to start with the legs.

00:06:16 ◼   ► So that's still got that going for me.

00:06:18 ◼   ► Yeah, how long do they have to stay on?

00:06:20 ◼   ► Oh, I'm keeping them on.

00:06:21 ◼   ► They're not coming off.

00:06:23 ◼   ► Okay.

00:06:24 ◼   ► That's terrible.

00:06:25 ◼   ► It's staying on.

00:06:26 ◼   ► Everything, this whole desk, I'm keeping it.

00:06:30 ◼   ► I'm actually going to -- I'm planning on clear coating the desk.

00:06:33 ◼   ► Oh, well, that would be better at least.

00:06:36 ◼   ► But the stickers, the Steven face stickers, they're staying on this desk forever.

00:06:41 ◼   ► That's kind of like part of the pain of it all really.

00:06:43 ◼   ► So thank you, StJude.org/relay.

00:06:47 ◼   ► Follow up that probably nobody cares about but me, but I'm doing it anyway.

00:06:51 ◼   ► I have decided to give the shared with you for photos another try.

00:06:55 ◼   ► Because something's broken about this feature.

00:07:00 ◼   ► Jason tells me this, that what I'm having,

00:07:03 ◼   ► which is I get these images that show up in my photos library

00:07:08 ◼   ► that are sent to me mostly, I think it's pretty much just stuff that Adina sends me,

00:07:14 ◼   ► while we're not together.

00:07:16 ◼   ► So like she's at home, I'm maybe at the studio or somewhere else,

00:07:19 ◼   ► she sends me an image of something at home,

00:07:21 ◼   ► and then it shows up in my photos library.

00:07:23 ◼   ► And Jason tells me this should not be happening.

00:07:25 ◼   ► So I am going to keep this feature on to see if it gets fixed.

00:07:31 ◼   ► Yeah, we're going to monitor this.

00:07:32 ◼   ► I do wonder if it knows where your home is,

00:07:34 ◼   ► and since those photos are from your home, it is fudging it.

00:07:39 ◼   ► It's like, well, Myke lives there and Myke was there recently,

00:07:42 ◼   ► and so he probably was there now, right?

00:07:44 ◼   ► I wonder if it's a little too fuzzy and it's encompassing your home.

00:07:48 ◼   ► Maybe.

00:07:49 ◼   ► Even though you weren't there.

00:07:50 ◼   ► The other thing that I thought is maybe

00:07:51 ◼   ► because I would typically have a device at home, but...

00:07:55 ◼   ► Yeah, also the photos you sent involved, it was Adina and a friend and a dog.

00:08:01 ◼   ► Yes.

00:08:02 ◼   ► And I said that the other thing could possibly be that Apple Photos thinks that you're the dog.

00:08:06 ◼   ► Maybe that I'm the dog.

00:08:07 ◼   ► I did check, and it did do...

00:08:09 ◼   ► You know that feature you were talking about last week with like,

00:08:11 ◼   ► where it's like, hey, this is a dog, let's tell you what breed it is or whatever.

00:08:15 ◼   ► I have not seen that on any of my images, like nothing.

00:08:19 ◼   ► I do not... For me, this feature is nonexistent.

00:08:22 ◼   ► You're not missing anything.

00:08:23 ◼   ► It's not great.

00:08:25 ◼   ► The dog breed part of it is real dumb.

00:08:29 ◼   ► And the cats are even worse.

00:08:31 ◼   ► The cat, if you have a picture of a cat and the tail is not visible,

00:08:36 ◼   ► like as often happens, a cat has curled its tail around itself or is sitting on its tail,

00:08:40 ◼   ► it'll say, oh, this is one of the rare...

00:08:42 ◼   ► This is a manx, it's a tailless cat.

00:08:44 ◼   ► Like, no, it's just a cat.

00:08:47 ◼   ► Like, what are you doing?

00:08:48 ◼   ► Machine learning is so stupid sometimes.

00:08:50 ◼   ► Oh, man.

00:08:52 ◼   ► I can't see a tail, so there must not be one.

00:08:54 ◼   ► There's no other way to identify this breed of cat.

00:08:57 ◼   ► It's a very rare tailless cat that you've got here,

00:09:00 ◼   ► or it's literally you just can't see the tail dumb computer.

00:09:03 ◼   ► That's incredible.

00:09:04 ◼   ► If you have... Yes, if you have a purebred-ish dog,

00:09:08 ◼   ► it will probably recognize the breed properly.

00:09:12 ◼   ► If you have a mutt, it will make hilarious guesses about the breed.

00:09:16 ◼   ► And the answer is it's a mutt.

00:09:18 ◼   ► So it's a little bit silly.

00:09:20 ◼   ► But yes, if I search for boxer, I will find my dog

00:09:23 ◼   ► and all the other boxers that I've taken pictures of.

00:09:26 ◼   ► And Muhammad Ali.

00:09:27 ◼   ► But yes, exactly right.

00:09:29 ◼   ► Sugar Ray Leonard will appear in my photo library.

00:09:32 ◼   ► My extensive Sugar Ray Leonard photo collection.

00:09:35 ◼   ► Yeah, you don't know.

00:09:36 ◼   ► I don't know. That's very true.

00:09:38 ◼   ► And whenever I see a billboard or an ESPN documentary about Sugar Ray Leonard,

00:09:43 ◼   ► I'm like, "Oh, Sugar Ray Leonard," and I take a picture of it

00:09:46 ◼   ► and add it to my album, my Leonard Spinks album,

00:09:50 ◼   ► because also there are pictures of Leon Spinks in there.

00:09:53 ◼   ► You do not know about my catalog of boxers.

00:09:56 ◼   ► Is this including underwear?

00:09:58 ◼   ► All right, so we have another...

00:09:59 ◼   ► And dogs.

00:10:00 ◼   ► All in the same... It's a very confusing album.

00:10:04 ◼   ► I want to read a great headline,

00:10:07 ◼   ► mostly just because I want to read the headline

00:10:09 ◼   ► because the headline is so good.

00:10:10 ◼   ► "Tim Cook says employees who leak memos do not belong at Apple

00:10:13 ◼   ► according to a leaked memo."

00:10:15 ◼   ► I just find it very fun.

00:10:17 ◼   ► This is Zoe Schiffer from The Verge wrote this.

00:10:20 ◼   ► Schiffer's been one of the lead reporters

00:10:23 ◼   ► on all of the worker unrest at Apple over the last few months,

00:10:30 ◼   ► mostly in regarding to the work at home stuff.

00:10:32 ◼   ► Basically, Apple had an all-hands meeting,

00:10:34 ◼   ► and information from the all-hands meeting got out,

00:10:37 ◼   ► and then they put out this memo, and then that got out.

00:10:40 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:10:41 ◼   ► But with this memo, though,

00:10:42 ◼   ► I think this is a little bit of an issue

00:10:45 ◼   ► where I do see both sides of it.

00:10:47 ◼   ► So one of the things that Tim talks about is

00:10:51 ◼   ► he mentions product leaks

00:10:53 ◼   ► and then also leaks of internal communication.

00:10:57 ◼   ► Now, the internal communication stuff,

00:11:00 ◼   ► I have no issue with that stuff leaking out there, right?

00:11:04 ◼   ► Because I think I actually encourage people

00:11:06 ◼   ► to speak out if they think the company's doing wrong, right?

00:11:10 ◼   ► We spoke about it on the show in the past.

00:11:12 ◼   ► But I do personally wish there were less product leaks.

00:11:15 ◼   ► I think it's too much now.

00:11:17 ◼   ► We know too much.

00:11:18 ◼   ► I don't mind there being a little bit of stuff,

00:11:20 ◼   ► but I would like to know less than we currently know.

00:11:24 ◼   ► I think it's really funny that Tim Cook said

00:11:27 ◼   ► that he would double down on product secrecy,

00:11:29 ◼   ► and in fact, the leaks are worse than they've ever been.

00:11:32 ◼   ► That's a good point.

00:11:33 ◼   ► Right?

00:11:34 ◼   ► Because they're leaking from all over the place.

00:11:35 ◼   ► This is different from the kind of management memos

00:11:38 ◼   ► and things, which should,

00:11:39 ◼   ► I mean, that's journalism 101, by the way,

00:11:41 ◼   ► is if you get a memo leaked to you

00:11:43 ◼   ► about stopping memos from leaking, you publish that.

00:11:47 ◼   ► That's, I mean, you got to do it.

00:11:49 ◼   ► But yeah, I agree on the other side of it.

00:11:52 ◼   ► But the thing is, I don't think it is primarily

00:11:58 ◼   ► people at Apple who are leaking.

00:12:01 ◼   ► There are leaks coming from Apple in Cupertino.

00:12:04 ◼   ► But I really do believe that the bulk of the leaks we get

00:12:07 ◼   ► are sourced from the supply chain,

00:12:09 ◼   ► because Apple is using contractors

00:12:12 ◼   ► and has less control over the supply chain,

00:12:15 ◼   ► and we see so many things that leak from the supply chain.

00:12:18 ◼   ► That said, I think Mark Gurman gets people from Cupertino,

00:12:23 ◼   ► and I don't know who those people are.

00:12:25 ◼   ► Yeah, because it comes so early.

00:12:26 ◼   ► Like, people that, you know,

00:12:27 ◼   ► when he was talking about the potential new Mac Pro, right,

00:12:30 ◼   ► which we may see, are so early in the--

00:12:33 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah. - In the process.

00:12:35 ◼   ► Or that 16-inch MacBook Pro when that came out or whatever.

00:12:38 ◼   ► It's much further along.

00:12:39 ◼   ► - I just, I don't know if Tim Cook

00:12:42 ◼   ► is conflating these issues or not,

00:12:47 ◼   ► and if it's effective or not,

00:12:49 ◼   ► because I don't think the message saying,

00:12:51 ◼   ► "Look, don't say anything," is as effective, right?

00:12:55 ◼   ► Like, 'cause some of these leaks matter

00:12:57 ◼   ► more than others in a way.

00:12:59 ◼   ► And I would think that the product leaks

00:13:02 ◼   ► should be what concerns him.

00:13:04 ◼   ► There has been some theory, by the way,

00:13:06 ◼   ► you and I didn't really talk about it,

00:13:08 ◼   ► that some of the things that were wrong last week

00:13:12 ◼   ► might have been an indication of Apple

00:13:15 ◼   ► trying to determine who is leaking.

00:13:18 ◼   ► And I don't think Apple necessarily

00:13:20 ◼   ► was leaking false information,

00:13:22 ◼   ► but I do sometimes get suspicious

00:13:24 ◼   ► when things that sound like they should be,

00:13:27 ◼   ► you know, legitimate reports and then are completely wrong

00:13:31 ◼   ► it does make you wonder sometimes.

00:13:33 ◼   ► More likely it's something that got delayed or changed

00:13:36 ◼   ► and was true at the time,

00:13:38 ◼   ► but I do wonder sometimes if that's part of Apple's strategy.

00:13:41 ◼   ► - That would give them still, though,

00:13:43 ◼   ► the roundabout way of that solution.

00:13:46 ◼   ► So if something was true but didn't get released,

00:13:50 ◼   ► then there could only have been a even smaller team

00:13:54 ◼   ► that would know about it because of the way

00:13:55 ◼   ► that Apple disclosed things internally.

00:13:57 ◼   ► - The counterargument would be that maybe

00:14:00 ◼   ► some of the reasons Apple has the issues it has

00:14:04 ◼   ► with product releases where there are bugs

00:14:06 ◼   ► or where there are things that don't seem

00:14:08 ◼   ► to make a lot of sense is because Apple silos

00:14:11 ◼   ► too many parts of Apple off and means that other parts

00:14:15 ◼   ► of Apple don't know what's going on

00:14:17 ◼   ► until announcement or release,

00:14:19 ◼   ► and they aren't prepared for it.

00:14:22 ◼   ► - I think both of the products we're gonna talk about today

00:14:25 ◼   ► have these exact issues.

00:14:26 ◼   ► - Yeah, where the left hand doesn't seem to know

00:14:28 ◼   ► what the right hand is doing,

00:14:29 ◼   ► and I think literally the left hand was in a silo

00:14:32 ◼   ► and was unable to communicate to the right hand

00:14:36 ◼   ► about what it was doing, I don't know.

00:14:37 ◼   ► - How does that new MagSafe wallet work, Jason?

00:14:41 ◼   ► - Oh yeah, I wrote about this really quickly.

00:14:43 ◼   ► It's something that's easy to misunderstand,

00:14:46 ◼   ► and so I thought I'd at least mention it.

00:14:48 ◼   ► So there's a second, the way I wrote about it

00:14:51 ◼   ► is iPhone leather wallet, second generation.

00:14:53 ◼   ► It's like, how could that be?

00:14:54 ◼   ► But it is, it's actually a different piece of hardware

00:14:57 ◼   ► because it has an NFC chip,

00:14:59 ◼   ► and I think the old Apple wallet, MagSafe wallet,

00:15:02 ◼   ► had an NFC chip, but I think that it just was there

00:15:05 ◼   ► to identify the color, essentially.

00:15:07 ◼   ► - It's the same as all the cases, right?

00:15:09 ◼   ► All the cases have something in them

00:15:11 ◼   ► where they can communicate the color.

00:15:13 ◼   ► And I remember at the time Apple said,

00:15:15 ◼   ► like, and other pieces of information,

00:15:18 ◼   ► but nothing else did anything?

00:15:20 ◼   ► - Right, so what's new in the second generation

00:15:24 ◼   ► MagSafe leather wallet is that it has an NFC chip

00:15:28 ◼   ► with a unique identifier per wallet.

00:15:31 ◼   ► And that's important because that's how

00:15:35 ◼   ► this new feature works.

00:15:37 ◼   ► The idea is your wallet becomes detached from your phone

00:15:42 ◼   ► and Find My basically logs where the detachment happened.

00:15:46 ◼   ► Now that they could have done before,

00:15:48 ◼   ► and I'm a little bit baffled about why

00:15:51 ◼   ► they didn't do this before,

00:15:53 ◼   ► because the phone knows when the MagSafe item

00:15:55 ◼   ► has been detached.

00:15:57 ◼   ► So I don't entirely understand,

00:16:00 ◼   ► my best guess is that they may have even wanted

00:16:03 ◼   ► to do this feature last year,

00:16:05 ◼   ► and it didn't work well enough,

00:16:06 ◼   ► and so they just didn't do it.

00:16:08 ◼   ► And they re-engineered the wallet,

00:16:09 ◼   ► and they did a new version of the wallet.

00:16:11 ◼   ► So this new one, when it detaches,

00:16:14 ◼   ► it's like AirPods, right?

00:16:15 ◼   ► AirPods don't have a Find My transmitter in them,

00:16:19 ◼   ► like an AirTag,

00:16:20 ◼   ► but what they do is the phone logs the last time

00:16:24 ◼   ► it saw your AirPods and where that was.

00:16:27 ◼   ► - But at least they have Bluetooth,

00:16:29 ◼   ► so you can get some way of finding them when you're close.

00:16:33 ◼   ► - Right, so the wallet doesn't have any of that.

00:16:35 ◼   ► All it has is a little NFC tag.

00:16:36 ◼   ► The NFC tag cannot be used for Find My ranging.

00:16:40 ◼   ► It doesn't work.

00:16:41 ◼   ► It's gotta be right next to it to do that.

00:16:43 ◼   ► But what it does,

00:16:44 ◼   ► so what it's doing is it's logging

00:16:45 ◼   ► when the wallet detaches.

00:16:46 ◼   ► So if you take your wallet off and leave it somewhere

00:16:49 ◼   ► and then are like, "Where did I put my wallet?"

00:16:51 ◼   ► Your phone knows at least where you took it off.

00:16:54 ◼   ► And if the wallet hasn't been moved from that location--

00:16:56 ◼   ► - So it logs the location?

00:16:57 ◼   ► - Yes, where it detaches.

00:16:58 ◼   ► - Right, 'cause I was gonna say,

00:16:59 ◼   ► if all it does is like,

00:17:00 ◼   ► "Hey, the wallet's not here anymore."

00:17:01 ◼   ► It's like, "Yeah, the phone tells me."

00:17:03 ◼   ► (laughs)

00:17:04 ◼   ► - Find My logs the location.

00:17:07 ◼   ► Optionally, it will actually,

00:17:09 ◼   ► when you detach, it can optionally send you an alert

00:17:13 ◼   ► that says, "Your wallet detached."

00:17:15 ◼   ► If you find that useful, you can turn that on.

00:17:18 ◼   ► And then the reason the NFC chip

00:17:20 ◼   ► with the unique number is relevant

00:17:23 ◼   ► is that optionally, again, you can choose this.

00:17:27 ◼   ► Optionally, you can choose to have your phone number

00:17:29 ◼   ► that's associated with your Apple ID

00:17:32 ◼   ► appear on someone else's phone

00:17:35 ◼   ► if they find your wallet and attach it.

00:17:38 ◼   ► So this is like,

00:17:39 ◼   ► "Well, what if my wallet falls off in public?

00:17:41 ◼   ► "How do people know that it's mine?"

00:17:43 ◼   ► And the answer is if somebody finds it

00:17:45 ◼   ► who's got an iPhone with MagSafe,

00:17:47 ◼   ► they could actually put it on their phone

00:17:49 ◼   ► and it'll say, "This is the phone number

00:17:50 ◼   ► "of the person who owns this wallet."

00:17:53 ◼   ► Which is a very, it's kinda esoteric,

00:17:54 ◼   ► but that's very Apple thinking of like,

00:17:56 ◼   ► "Well, of course everybody's gonna have an iPhone

00:17:57 ◼   ► "with MagSafe and they're gonna be able to do this."

00:18:00 ◼   ► So anyway, but it is a feature you can turn on

00:18:03 ◼   ► essentially to share your phone number

00:18:06 ◼   ► with whoever finds that MagSafe wallet

00:18:10 ◼   ► with that particular ID.

00:18:12 ◼   ► It's like a disclosure thing.

00:18:13 ◼   ► It's using iCloud to do that.

00:18:15 ◼   ► You're allowing some random person

00:18:17 ◼   ► to see your phone number if you choose to show it

00:18:21 ◼   ► and they've got your wallet

00:18:23 ◼   ► and they can call you and say,

00:18:25 ◼   ► "I've got your wallet.

00:18:26 ◼   ► "Give me $50,000 and I'll give it back to you."

00:18:28 ◼   ► Or they could just give it back to you.

00:18:30 ◼   ► One of those.

00:18:31 ◼   ► - Only one of those.

00:18:32 ◼   ► - Also it works with all the MagSafe iPhones.

00:18:35 ◼   ► It's not a iPhone 13 feature.

00:18:36 ◼   ► It works with all of them.

00:18:37 ◼   ► I put it on my iPhone 12 mini,

00:18:39 ◼   ► worked just fine, it pairs.

00:18:41 ◼   ► You choose what you want to share

00:18:44 ◼   ► and how you want it to alert you and that's it.

00:18:48 ◼   ► What it's not is an AirTag

00:18:50 ◼   ► because Apple has not miniaturized AirTag technology.

00:18:56 ◼   ► This wallet only fits three cards in it.

00:18:58 ◼   ► It's too small for actual AirTag technology to be in it.

00:19:03 ◼   ► Maybe one day.

00:19:04 ◼   ► But what they are doing is trying to get it

00:19:06 ◼   ► to be kind of like smart enough.

00:19:08 ◼   ► Now I've seen people on Twitter respond

00:19:10 ◼   ► and say, "This is useless."

00:19:12 ◼   ► And I don't really understand that

00:19:14 ◼   ► because it's useless if somebody picks up your wallet

00:19:17 ◼   ► and runs away with it.

00:19:18 ◼   ► That's true.

00:19:19 ◼   ► It's not an AirTag.

00:19:20 ◼   ► But it's not useless for what I would think

00:19:22 ◼   ► is the most common way anybody loses anything,

00:19:25 ◼   ► which is they don't remember where they had it last,

00:19:27 ◼   ► whether it fell off or whether they took it off.

00:19:29 ◼   ► And that's what this is for.

00:19:30 ◼   ► This is literally the, "I lost it.

00:19:33 ◼   ► Well, where did you last see it?"

00:19:35 ◼   ► And now you can ask your iPhone,

00:19:37 ◼   ► "Where did you last see the wallet?"

00:19:39 ◼   ► And they're like, "Oh, over there."

00:19:41 ◼   ► And you're like, "Oh, that's where it is."

00:19:43 ◼   ► Right? That's what this feature is for.

00:19:45 ◼   ► -Matt Van Ormo, who's one of the very awesome moderators

00:19:49 ◼   ► of our members Discord, made a good point.

00:19:52 ◼   ► He wrote about the wallet, too.

00:19:55 ◼   ► That the Find My has a thing for Item Left Behind,

00:19:59 ◼   ► which is a new feature.

00:20:01 ◼   ► So if you, like, leave your iPad somewhere,

00:20:04 ◼   ► it can notify you if you leave it.

00:20:06 ◼   ► And he was saying, basically, he would like some of that

00:20:09 ◼   ► to be extended to this so that the wallet didn't notify him

00:20:13 ◼   ► about being disconnected when he's at home,

00:20:15 ◼   ► which I think is a very good point.

00:20:17 ◼   ► -Yeah, right now, you literally disconnect the wallet,

00:20:19 ◼   ► and then, like, a minute later, it says,

00:20:21 ◼   ► "Wallet was disconnected,"

00:20:22 ◼   ► when what you really want is to look at location,

00:20:24 ◼   ► and then I leave the place where the wallet is

00:20:27 ◼   ► and have the option of being warned then.

00:20:29 ◼   ► You know you're leaving without your wallet.

00:20:31 ◼   ► But that's not in there right now.

00:20:33 ◼   ► -Or even just don't alert me when I'm here,

00:20:35 ◼   ► which is something that you can do with the devices stuff.

00:20:37 ◼   ► So you can say, like, you can list some locations.

00:20:40 ◼   ► So I have for mine, like, my home and my studio,

00:20:43 ◼   ► because, like, for example,

00:20:44 ◼   ► if I left my studio to go get a coffee,

00:20:48 ◼   ► I would get, like, four notifications

00:20:50 ◼   ► of all of the things that are mine

00:20:52 ◼   ► that I have walked away from.

00:20:53 ◼   ► So I like that -- I'm very happy

00:20:55 ◼   ► you can have multiple locations in that thing,

00:20:56 ◼   ► but if you take the wallet off, then it alerts you.

00:20:59 ◼   ► I don't -- I really don't know why they needed --

00:21:03 ◼   ► why this wouldn't work with the first one.

00:21:05 ◼   ► If the phone knows that a wallet's connected,

00:21:09 ◼   ► it will also know when the wallet has been disconnected.

00:21:12 ◼   ► -Yes.

00:21:13 ◼   ► -I feel like this is one of those things

00:21:14 ◼   ► where Apple may have overthought it and, like,

00:21:17 ◼   ► "Oh, there has to be an individual, like, connection

00:21:20 ◼   ► of a number between --" You know what I mean?

00:21:22 ◼   ► -Like I said, it may be simpler than that.

00:21:25 ◼   ► It may be that they fancied this as a feature

00:21:29 ◼   ► for the wallet last year,

00:21:32 ◼   ► and it didn't work reliably.

00:21:34 ◼   ► And they're like, "Well, just ship it,

00:21:35 ◼   ► and we won't worry about it."

00:21:36 ◼   ► Because you're right.

00:21:37 ◼   ► I don't understand why the old wallet couldn't do this

00:21:41 ◼   ► because it does know when you connect it

00:21:46 ◼   ► and presumably then when you disconnect it,

00:21:48 ◼   ► and yet that old wallet doesn't have this functionality.

00:21:52 ◼   ► And I don't think it's because Apple got so precious

00:21:54 ◼   ► that they're like, "Well, no, it needs a unique ID

00:21:56 ◼   ► because we need to have a finding strategy here

00:21:58 ◼   ► that involves somebody else."

00:22:00 ◼   ► It's like, "Okay. I mean, that's nice,

00:22:02 ◼   ► but I spent the last year with the first-gen wallet,

00:22:06 ◼   ► and it would have been nice to have this feature

00:22:08 ◼   ► for the last year."

00:22:10 ◼   ► And I don't understand --

00:22:11 ◼   ► Like, even if it didn't have this extra feature

00:22:13 ◼   ► of having a unique ID, but I don't know.

00:22:16 ◼   ► I don't know.

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00:24:10 ◼   ► Let's start by talking about the iPad Mini.

00:24:14 ◼   ► You wrote a great review on "Six Colors."

00:24:17 ◼   ► You had the iPad Mini in advance, right?

00:24:19 ◼   ► So how long have you had yours for?

00:24:21 ◼   ► -I got it the Wednesday, maybe, of an ounce a week,

00:24:26 ◼   ► so I've had it for more than a week now.

00:24:30 ◼   ► -Okay, and I got mine on Friday,

00:24:32 ◼   ► so I've had mine for, like, four days or whatever.

00:24:36 ◼   ► I love it, man. I love it.

00:24:39 ◼   ► It's just what I wanted. I love it.

00:24:41 ◼   ► It's such a great little device.

00:24:44 ◼   ► It's super --

00:24:46 ◼   ► What do you think about the size and weight?

00:24:48 ◼   ► How do you feel about it?

00:24:50 ◼   ► -I think it -- Yeah, I think it's really great.

00:24:53 ◼   ► I think it is about as small as an iPad could probably be.

00:24:59 ◼   ► -Yes, it's on the edge, right? Like, it really is.

00:25:03 ◼   ► -Yeah, but having the new modern design

00:25:07 ◼   ► where it doesn't have the space for the home button

00:25:10 ◼   ► opens it up and makes it that much more kind of pleasing,

00:25:14 ◼   ► and you can hold it in one hand, although you know --

00:25:18 ◼   ► You can hold it in one hand, but you won't want to,

00:25:21 ◼   ► and it's not one-hand use.

00:25:23 ◼   ► You can, like, hold it in one hand

00:25:25 ◼   ► and then use your other hand to control it.

00:25:27 ◼   ► You can't really, you know, just hold it in one hand

00:25:30 ◼   ► and use it like a phone. It's not a phone.

00:25:32 ◼   ► It's not a phone. You can thumb-type on it,

00:25:34 ◼   ► which is kind of nice because it's so small.

00:25:37 ◼   ► Yeah, it's just -- It's a really good size.

00:25:39 ◼   ► It is -- I think for people who are looking --

00:25:42 ◼   ► Obviously, look, my review basically says,

00:25:44 ◼   ► "What doesn't it do?"

00:25:46 ◼   ► The whole purpose of it, like with the Mac Mini,

00:25:48 ◼   ► honestly, is to fill all sorts of little niches

00:25:51 ◼   ► that other devices don't fill, and so it is for kids.

00:25:56 ◼   ► It is for people in cramped spaces,

00:25:58 ◼   ► but it is also for, like, readers,

00:26:01 ◼   ► for people who want an iPad as a content-consumption device,

00:26:05 ◼   ► as a thing to read, and the great thing about it as a reader

00:26:09 ◼   ► is that it will run all your e-book apps.

00:26:12 ◼   ► It will run Twitter. It will run your newspaper apps.

00:26:17 ◼   ► It will run an RSS reader, like, whatever -- and Safari.

00:26:20 ◼   ► So whatever you want to read on it, you can read on it

00:26:23 ◼   ► and in this kind of compact size.

00:26:27 ◼   ► So, like, it's good at a lot of different things,

00:26:31 ◼   ► but I think the reader thing is the one that jumped out at me

00:26:36 ◼   ► because I've been hearing people talk about it,

00:26:38 ◼   ► and I used the last iPad Mini as a reader

00:26:40 ◼   ► for a little while just as a trial,

00:26:42 ◼   ► and I was really kind of unhappy with it,

00:26:44 ◼   ► but this one, I think, is a much more pleasant experience

00:26:46 ◼   ► than that one.

00:26:47 ◼   ► I think something about this design

00:26:49 ◼   ► and the feel of it and the size of it,

00:26:51 ◼   ► like, I think they got it right this time.

00:26:53 ◼   ► -Yeah, it's -- For me, it is perfect

00:26:56 ◼   ► for what I want this type of iPad to be,

00:27:01 ◼   ► which is, like, reading stuff, social-media stuff,

00:27:04 ◼   ► watching video at home,

00:27:07 ◼   ► very kind of like light --

00:27:09 ◼   ► very light-work stuff like communication, right?

00:27:11 ◼   ► Maybe sending the occasional e-mail,

00:27:13 ◼   ► answering a Slack message, that kind of thing,

00:27:15 ◼   ► because it's really nice to type on.

00:27:17 ◼   ► You say you hold it in portrait, you can thumb-type on it,

00:27:19 ◼   ► and so it's basically like --

00:27:21 ◼   ► It's basically like typing on a big phone, which really works.

00:27:24 ◼   ► There isn't another iPad

00:27:26 ◼   ► that is as comfortable to thumb-type on as this one

00:27:29 ◼   ► because even the 11-inch,

00:27:31 ◼   ► it's not comfortable to really type on that in portrait mode

00:27:34 ◼   ► like it is on this iPad,

00:27:37 ◼   ► and it does feel like a little book,

00:27:39 ◼   ► especially if you get one of the smart covers.

00:27:41 ◼   ► Like, it just feels like a little book,

00:27:43 ◼   ► and I hold it, you know, like I would hold a phone, you know,

00:27:46 ◼   ► like, Pinky's supporting it, and you just hold it like a book

00:27:49 ◼   ► and read on it like it's a book, and it's great.

00:27:51 ◼   ► -I love those smart covers. -Yeah, me too.

00:27:54 ◼   ► -I ended up with an orange smart cover for it

00:27:56 ◼   ► that's the same as the one that I got from my 12.9-inch iPad Pro,

00:27:59 ◼   ► and that's a hilarious contrast.

00:28:01 ◼   ► It's like a big, big buddy and little buddy.

00:28:04 ◼   ► -Big little. That's funny. -Yeah.

00:28:06 ◼   ► 'Cause they're the same thing, but the smart cover,

00:28:08 ◼   ► I really like the smart cover.

00:28:10 ◼   ► I think it's a good accessory,

00:28:12 ◼   ► and I think the smart cover is a good one for the iPad Mini.

00:28:15 ◼   ► Now, having that, it's nice.

00:28:17 ◼   ► I'd kind of forgotten about the smart cover,

00:28:20 ◼   ► like, the smart folio cover thing,

00:28:22 ◼   ► 'cause I hadn't had one for a while, right,

00:28:24 ◼   ► because I'd just been purely in iPad Pro land

00:28:28 ◼   ► and always used keyboards, whatever the keyboard version was,

00:28:31 ◼   ► and I'd forgotten that the smart cover folio thing

00:28:34 ◼   ► has the little fold it back into a triangle, prop it up, you know?

00:28:38 ◼   ► -Yep. -And I was like, "Ah!"

00:28:40 ◼   ► I was super excited about it, 'cause, I mean, like, for watching videos.

00:28:43 ◼   ► So, like, a good use of this device for me is I'm doing the dishes,

00:28:47 ◼   ► and I want to watch a video of some kind.

00:28:49 ◼   ► So I could just put it on top of the bread bin.

00:28:52 ◼   ► It sits perfectly there. It is really great.

00:28:54 ◼   ► Like, this is, like, I've been using my 11-inch iPad at home

00:28:57 ◼   ► for the last little while, like, for ages,

00:29:00 ◼   ► and doing these kinds of things on it,

00:29:02 ◼   ► and this is so much better than that at this job,

00:29:04 ◼   ► all of the things that I want it for,

00:29:06 ◼   ► which is this mostly, like, consumption and the occasional thing.

00:29:10 ◼   ► You know, you mentioned about size a minute ago,

00:29:13 ◼   ► about, like, it being on this kind of the smallest that an iPad could be.

00:29:17 ◼   ► I think iOS 15 does show that in a bunch of places.

00:29:20 ◼   ► Like, it feels like it barely fits in places, right?

00:29:24 ◼   ► Like, the dock is incredibly small.

00:29:27 ◼   ► So I migrated my iCloud backup from my iPad Pro to it just for fun.

00:29:32 ◼   ► Oh, no! That's not a good idea.

00:29:34 ◼   ► And then I turned it into vertical orientation,

00:29:37 ◼   ► and the dock was, like, a series of very tiny dots that you could tap on,

00:29:42 ◼   ► and maybe you would get the right--

00:29:44 ◼   ► I ended up pulling a bunch of things out of the dock

00:29:46 ◼   ► because it's like, "Oh, no, no, no, no. That's hilariously too small."

00:29:49 ◼   ► Also, the layout is weird.

00:29:51 ◼   ► Like, I railed about the iPadOS home screen last week

00:29:55 ◼   ► about how it's not really good enough

00:29:57 ◼   ► and the changes they made are just kind of patching an existing thing

00:30:01 ◼   ► that's not that good and hasn't been that good ever since the start.

00:30:04 ◼   ► But it's even worse on the iPad Mini,

00:30:07 ◼   ► where there are these enormous margins on the left and the right

00:30:11 ◼   ► when you're looking at it horizontally.

00:30:13 ◼   ► Enormous!

00:30:14 ◼   ► Like, the margins are there on the other iPads.

00:30:17 ◼   ► They are.

00:30:18 ◼   ► But they're not as egregious.

00:30:19 ◼   ► It looks like you're only using, like, I don't know,

00:30:22 ◼   ► two-thirds of the home screen?

00:30:24 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah. It's-- I don't get it.

00:30:27 ◼   ► I don't get it.

00:30:28 ◼   ► I don't understand how, in iOS 15,

00:30:31 ◼   ► especially knowing that this product is coming

00:30:34 ◼   ► and not rethinking how the home screen on an iPad works--

00:30:39 ◼   ► Well, it's like they did, didn't they?

00:30:41 ◼   ► But they did it wrong for this device.

00:30:43 ◼   ► I felt it with the iPad Pro, but I really feel it with the Mini.

00:30:46 ◼   ► And, you know, it just exacerbates all the feelings I already had

00:30:50 ◼   ► about how the widget placement is weird and all of that,

00:30:53 ◼   ► because now on this you've just got just space to the left and the right

00:30:57 ◼   ► where there's nothing there.

00:31:00 ◼   ► And it is small.

00:31:01 ◼   ► I mean, bottom line is you've got to have pretty good near vision

00:31:05 ◼   ► to use this thing, because you can crank up the text size on it,

00:31:09 ◼   ► but, like, it's-- everything is tiny,

00:31:13 ◼   ► because it is a higher resolution screen,

00:31:15 ◼   ► so everything is very small, which is, again,

00:31:18 ◼   ► why it's probably a device more for the young.

00:31:20 ◼   ► But, yeah, you can crank up the text size,

00:31:22 ◼   ► and you will-- if you are over the age of 40,

00:31:24 ◼   ► you probably will need to crank up the text size on it,

00:31:27 ◼   ► because it's too small.

00:31:30 ◼   ► I-- on all my devices, I actually have dynamic text set to the smallest.

00:31:35 ◼   ► I had to bump it up on the iPad Mini.

00:31:37 ◼   ► Is it too small?

00:31:39 ◼   ► Even Myke Hurley, small text Hurley.

00:31:41 ◼   ► Even me, even big small text boy over here.

00:31:44 ◼   ► Like, you know, we were saying earlier about,

00:31:46 ◼   ► like, we have referenced in the episode,

00:31:48 ◼   ► places where it feels like maybe Apple's teams

00:31:50 ◼   ► aren't talking to each other.

00:31:52 ◼   ► This does feel like one of those,

00:31:54 ◼   ► because it does feel like that home-- the home screen,

00:31:56 ◼   ► it's, like, wrong in a way that it doesn't feel wrong

00:32:01 ◼   ► on the other iPads in the same way.

00:32:03 ◼   ► Like, we have said that could be better.

00:32:05 ◼   ► Yeah, but, like, we all agree it could be better,

00:32:09 ◼   ► but on the iPad Mini, it does feel like something's broken.

00:32:12 ◼   ► It feels like it got shrunk in a way.

00:32:14 ◼   ► My first reaction when I started it up was,

00:32:17 ◼   ► "Whoa, what is happening on the home screen?"

00:32:20 ◼   ► And, yeah, it's--

00:32:22 ◼   ► There's something odd going on there.

00:32:25 ◼   ► On that, about the text size, I want to talk about the display.

00:32:28 ◼   ► I feel like the display isn't as good as my 11-inch iPad

00:32:33 ◼   ► in a way that I can't put my finger on,

00:32:36 ◼   ► but it doesn't feel as good.

00:32:38 ◼   ► Do you-- have you come to that?

00:32:40 ◼   ► I don't know if I've compared it to that,

00:32:44 ◼   ► but, I mean, I've accepted that it's not--

00:32:46 ◼   ► it's not the state-of-the-art screen anymore, right,

00:32:48 ◼   ► because the iPad Pro is the state-of-the-art screen that's got that.

00:32:51 ◼   ► But, like, my 11-inch iPad hasn't got the Mini LED, right?

00:32:55 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:32:57 ◼   ► Maybe-- oh, you know what?

00:32:58 ◼   ► Davis said maybe ProMotion is one thing.

00:33:00 ◼   ► That could be, but I feel like when I'm looking at it,

00:33:03 ◼   ► the colors don't look as good to me in a way,

00:33:06 ◼   ► but I don't know if this is, like--

00:33:08 ◼   ► it's like a trick in my mind or something,

00:33:10 ◼   ► but, like, I feel like it's not as high quality

00:33:14 ◼   ► as the 11-inch iPad Pro,

00:33:16 ◼   ► but when I look at the tech spec pages,

00:33:19 ◼   ► it seems to suggest it's the same stuff.

00:33:22 ◼   ► Yeah, I don't know.

00:33:23 ◼   ► But I feel like that the Air and the Mini

00:33:26 ◼   ► probably don't get the best screens, but, you know?

00:33:29 ◼   ► I think that's probably true.

00:33:31 ◼   ► And so it might be a case of just, like,

00:33:33 ◼   ► this isn't as high quality as the Pro one,

00:33:36 ◼   ► even though they seem to suggest they have all the same features.

00:33:39 ◼   ► Mm-hmm.

00:33:40 ◼   ► You were very excited to order a purple one.

00:33:43 ◼   ► I got Starlight, so it--

00:33:45 ◼   ► And Starlight, like, literally,

00:33:47 ◼   ► I had to put it next to a silver iPad

00:33:49 ◼   ► and then take my glasses off

00:33:51 ◼   ► and put my face down at the level of the two iPads

00:33:54 ◼   ► in order to barely detect the extra yellow cast

00:33:59 ◼   ► that makes it Starlight instead of silver.

00:34:01 ◼   ► But then I saw pictures online of everybody

00:34:04 ◼   ► who got that purple one, like you,

00:34:07 ◼   ► and who were very excited to have a purple iPad,

00:34:10 ◼   ► and I got to say, everybody had the same reaction.

00:34:14 ◼   ► The same reaction, which is, this is purple.

00:34:17 ◼   ► It's gray.

00:34:18 ◼   ► Okay, in some light, it has a purple hue to it,

00:34:25 ◼   ► but it's not purple like what I thought I was gonna get.

00:34:29 ◼   ► It was gonna be purple like that iPhone is purple.

00:34:32 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:34:33 ◼   ► But the difference is, and I know why,

00:34:35 ◼   ► the difference is that's glass with a color underneath.

00:34:39 ◼   ► Right.

00:34:40 ◼   ► This is aluminum.

00:34:41 ◼   ► And for some reason, Apple aren't or can't

00:34:44 ◼   ► put the same level of color.

00:34:45 ◼   ► But I feel like they do a good job with the iMac.

00:34:48 ◼   ► My iMac is really yellow.

00:34:50 ◼   ► I don't understand quite what they did with the iPad Mini,

00:34:54 ◼   ► which feels to me like a fun product,

00:34:57 ◼   ► and yet they have made it in boring colors.

00:35:01 ◼   ► Like, that purple should be far more vibrant,

00:35:04 ◼   ► and we know they can make brighter purples

00:35:07 ◼   ► because the backs of the iMacs have brighter purples.

00:35:10 ◼   ► And the iPad Mini strikes me as the device

00:35:12 ◼   ► that you'd want to do that with,

00:35:13 ◼   ► and instead it seems really conservative.

00:35:16 ◼   ► And, you know, I don't want to say boring

00:35:19 ◼   ► because some people want something more muted,

00:35:22 ◼   ► and muted doesn't necessarily have to be boring,

00:35:24 ◼   ► but, like, I feel like--

00:35:25 ◼   ► Yeah, but you wouldn't buy the purple one, would you, right?

00:35:27 ◼   ► Like, if you wanted a muted color.

00:35:29 ◼   ► Yeah, when your color choices are imperceptible

00:35:32 ◼   ► unless you really work at it,

00:35:33 ◼   ► they're not really good color choices, are they?

00:35:37 ◼   ► No. You know, you mentioned starlight,

00:35:39 ◼   ► and I want to give a bit of follow-out.

00:35:41 ◼   ► I do another show here on Relay FM called "The Test Drivers"

00:35:43 ◼   ► with tech YouTuber Austin Evans.

00:35:45 ◼   ► We interviewed Steve and Tana and Tom Boger,

00:35:48 ◼   ► friend of the show, from Apple about the new iPad Mini,

00:35:51 ◼   ► and I asked them to tell me what starlight was.

00:35:53 ◼   ► So if you want to hear what they said,

00:35:56 ◼   ► you can go check the episode out.

00:35:57 ◼   ► It's episode 40 of "The Test Drivers."

00:35:59 ◼   ► I said, "What is it? What color is it?"

00:36:02 ◼   ► The best answer I got from somebody at Apple

00:36:06 ◼   ► was just what we've said before,

00:36:08 ◼   ► which is it's silver but with a more yellow undertone,

00:36:17 ◼   ► which is accurate, but, boy, it's so --

00:36:20 ◼   ► Like, they could have called it silver,

00:36:23 ◼   ► and everybody would have been like,

00:36:25 ◼   ► "Hey, did you notice that Apple silver

00:36:27 ◼   ► is slightly yellower than it was?"

00:36:29 ◼   ► And people would be like, "Yeah, I did notice that."

00:36:31 ◼   ► Still silver, though.

00:36:32 ◼   ► And that would be the end of it.

00:36:35 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:36:37 ◼   ► Look, the folio I'm happy with.

00:36:39 ◼   ► My cherry folio, which is actually purple.

00:36:42 ◼   ► I'm very happy with this.

00:36:44 ◼   ► But the -- I mean, now, really, the only part that I see

00:36:49 ◼   ► is the rail around the outside,

00:36:50 ◼   ► which is a little bit more purple than the back.

00:36:53 ◼   ► So I guess I got that going for me.

00:36:56 ◼   ► About Apple, come on.

00:36:58 ◼   ► Like, you did such a good job with the iMac.

00:37:01 ◼   ► Like, those colors are all so big and vibrant and bold.

00:37:05 ◼   ► I wonder whether Apple's kind of weird approach

00:37:11 ◼   ► to colors in these products is actually an effect of --

00:37:16 ◼   ► We can't blame everything on the pandemic,

00:37:18 ◼   ► but I don't even want to choose the reason why.

00:37:20 ◼   ► I just want to say I wonder if it is an effect

00:37:23 ◼   ► of these products all being kind of out of sequence

00:37:27 ◼   ► from one another in the development process,

00:37:29 ◼   ► because there should be a head of color at Apple,

00:37:33 ◼   ► of materials who's in charge of the colors,

00:37:36 ◼   ► who is your color czar at Apple, right?

00:37:41 ◼   ► And they should have formulated a philosophy

00:37:44 ◼   ► of what the colors are and how Apple's going to move.

00:37:47 ◼   ► And you see it in some categories, right?

00:37:48 ◼   ► Watch bands, smart folio cases.

00:37:51 ◼   ► Like, there are places where Apple's color philosophy,

00:37:53 ◼   ► they come out with new colors, and you're like,

00:37:55 ◼   ► "Oh, great. This is great."

00:37:57 ◼   ► But with the iPad being so muted

00:38:00 ◼   ► and the iMac being so forward,

00:38:03 ◼   ► like, I don't know what's going on here.

00:38:06 ◼   ► Like, and with the iPhone 13,

00:38:10 ◼   ► they dropped the number of colors.

00:38:13 ◼   ► Like, they made that big deal about that purple phone,

00:38:16 ◼   ► and, like, purple phone's gone. Purple phone's gone.

00:38:18 ◼   ► -What about purple phone? -So what is happening?

00:38:22 ◼   ► And why?

00:38:23 ◼   ► We know you can anodize aluminum to be bright and cheery,

00:38:26 ◼   ► and this is an iPad mini, and it's not bright and cheery.

00:38:29 ◼   ► Why? Why is it that way?

00:38:32 ◼   ► But I do wonder if maybe the reason why

00:38:34 ◼   ► is because this was a plan that was done a while ago,

00:38:38 ◼   ► and they -- since then, they did the iMac plan,

00:38:42 ◼   ► and this one had to kind of proceed the way it was.

00:38:44 ◼   ► I don't know. I don't understand it.

00:38:46 ◼   ► I feel like their color story is all jumbled up.

00:38:49 ◼   ► Well, these colors are close --

00:38:52 ◼   ► like, on the iPad, are close to the iPad Air,

00:38:54 ◼   ► which they have colors, but they're also gray, right?

00:38:57 ◼   ► Like, federal got, like, a blue one, but it's a gray one.

00:39:00 ◼   ► The same as purple is actually gray with a little bit of purple on it.

00:39:03 ◼   ► So you might be -- like, and then the iMacs are much more vivid.

00:39:06 ◼   ► So maybe -- I don't know, maybe the next ones --

00:39:09 ◼   ► Why wouldn't iPad not be vivid?

00:39:11 ◼   ► That's the part that gets me.

00:39:12 ◼   ► And, again, maybe it's just because they're out of sync,

00:39:14 ◼   ► but I don't understand why.

00:39:15 ◼   ► I can maybe understand -- look, I don't want the iPad Air

00:39:18 ◼   ► or iPad Pro, which I like, to be boring,

00:39:20 ◼   ► but I think we've all accepted the fact

00:39:22 ◼   ► that Apple thinks "pro" means "boring."

00:39:24 ◼   ► So, okay, but the iPad Air and the iPad Mini are not pro products.

00:39:30 ◼   ► They should be fun, and the colors are like, "We heard you,

00:39:34 ◼   ► and while we're not willing to be fun, we will give you color."

00:39:39 ◼   ► But it'll be not fun.

00:39:41 ◼   ► You can buy a purple iPad if you want.

00:39:43 ◼   ► It'll say "purple" on the receipt.

00:39:45 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:39:46 ◼   ► And there's purple on the box, which is the color you really want.

00:39:48 ◼   ► I don't understand Apple's reluctance to make their products fun.

00:39:53 ◼   ► I really just don't understand it,

00:39:54 ◼   ► especially now that we've seen the iMac, because the iMac is fun.

00:39:57 ◼   ► I mean, we could argue, well, the back of the iMac is fun.

00:40:00 ◼   ► The front of the iMac is muted, but the back of the iMac is fun.

00:40:03 ◼   ► The front of my iMac is very yellow.

00:40:05 ◼   ► Like, this isn't any other color other than yellow.

00:40:08 ◼   ► Yeah. Oh, yeah.

00:40:09 ◼   ► I'm looking at this orange iMac right now, and it's --

00:40:12 ◼   ► It's undeniable what color it is.

00:40:14 ◼   ► It is, and yet, on other parts of their product line,

00:40:19 ◼   ► that should be more fun.

00:40:21 ◼   ► So, now, this actually gives me concern about the new MacBook Air,

00:40:25 ◼   ► because I've been hoping that the new MacBook Air would be in iMac colors.

00:40:29 ◼   ► No, I think it will be.

00:40:30 ◼   ► And I'm worried now that it's going to be in Starlight,

00:40:32 ◼   ► and it's going to be in purple that's not purple.

00:40:35 ◼   ► No, I'm confident that it's going to be in full-on color.

00:40:38 ◼   ► I think something's different, I don't know why,

00:40:40 ◼   ► between the Mac team and the iOS or iPad or iPhone team.

00:40:44 ◼   ► I have faith.

00:40:45 ◼   ► I don't know what's going on.

00:40:46 ◼   ► I have faith.

00:40:47 ◼   ► Colorzar, help us.

00:40:48 ◼   ► Help us, Colorzar.

00:40:49 ◼   ► Please.

00:40:50 ◼   ► This iPad mini has buttons on it.

00:40:53 ◼   ► One of the buttons is a Touch ID button.

00:40:55 ◼   ► This is my first experience with the Touch ID button.

00:40:58 ◼   ► Ah, yes.

00:40:59 ◼   ► I haven't tried out the iPad Air.

00:41:01 ◼   ► It's fine.

00:41:03 ◼   ► I wish it was faster, and I miss Face ID.

00:41:08 ◼   ► I -- Yeah, I think --

00:41:10 ◼   ► I think the problem with Touch ID on the -- on the power button is,

00:41:17 ◼   ► if you're used to Face ID on your phone,

00:41:20 ◼   ► and you're used to Face ID on an iPad Pro,

00:41:24 ◼   ► then it's just a different way of using it,

00:41:28 ◼   ► and you have to get used to it.

00:41:29 ◼   ► I think if you don't have --

00:41:30 ◼   ► Everything feels like more work.

00:41:32 ◼   ► I think if you don't have an iPad Pro,

00:41:34 ◼   ► it's probably much, much easier to adapt to it.

00:41:37 ◼   ► But, yeah, I am reminded when I use one of these devices,

00:41:42 ◼   ► whether it's a mini or an Air,

00:41:44 ◼   ► I'm constantly reminded of all of the ways that I've just assumed Face ID

00:41:50 ◼   ► and just skipped authentication as a thing I even think about on my iPad Pro.

00:41:56 ◼   ► And now suddenly it's like, "Oh, right.

00:41:58 ◼   ► I got to lay my finger down on that.

00:42:00 ◼   ► Where's the button? It's over here. Okay.

00:42:02 ◼   ► Yeah, and there it is.

00:42:03 ◼   ► Oh, I pressed the button.

00:42:04 ◼   ► Now it went to sleep.

00:42:05 ◼   ► I can't do that.

00:42:06 ◼   ► I got to just lay it there and hold, and then it will open."

00:42:09 ◼   ► You know, it's just -- It's very clever,

00:42:12 ◼   ► but if you're used to Face ID, it's not the same, and it's --

00:42:17 ◼   ► Yeah, it's fine.

00:42:19 ◼   ► It is what it is.

00:42:20 ◼   ► They didn't want to put the Face ID stack in these lower-cost devices.

00:42:24 ◼   ► I get it.

00:42:25 ◼   ► I do like that they put the rest to open thing in there.

00:42:29 ◼   ► So, like, if I tap the screen, I can then just put my finger on it.

00:42:32 ◼   ► It will open up.

00:42:33 ◼   ► I don't then have to, like, swipe up to open the thing.

00:42:36 ◼   ► Yes, that is very clever.

00:42:37 ◼   ► You don't have to make that additional gesture, the laying of your --

00:42:40 ◼   ► Right, because your face is always there, right?

00:42:42 ◼   ► So you need to do an affirmative thing to say,

00:42:44 ◼   ► "Yes, my face is here, and I want to unlock,"

00:42:46 ◼   ► whereas laying your finger on the button is the affirmative gesture,

00:42:50 ◼   ► so that's all you should have to do.

00:42:51 ◼   ► They moved the volume buttons to the top edge

00:42:54 ◼   ► because the pencil takes up the whole side,

00:42:56 ◼   ► and they introduced a feature here,

00:42:58 ◼   ► which I don't know why it's only on the iPad mini

00:43:01 ◼   ► because it could be on every iPad.

00:43:03 ◼   ► They're all the same, where the volume buttons

00:43:06 ◼   ► are contextually aware of rotation,

00:43:09 ◼   ► so up is up and down is down depending on which is facing up

00:43:15 ◼   ► and which is facing down for volume

00:43:17 ◼   ► rather than it being the up and down volume buttons

00:43:20 ◼   ► are always the same buttons

00:43:21 ◼   ► no matter what orientation you have the iPad in.

00:43:23 ◼   ► It's very clever.

00:43:24 ◼   ► That said, this is the most --

00:43:25 ◼   ► I like it.

00:43:26 ◼   ► I know Apple always has thought that iPads were vertical

00:43:29 ◼   ► and that horizontal was lesser, which is weird

00:43:33 ◼   ► because I always use my iPad in horizontal orientation.

00:43:36 ◼   ► This is a very vertical iPad.

00:43:38 ◼   ► I feel like this is, like, the most vertical iPad ever.

00:43:41 ◼   ► The most.

00:43:42 ◼   ► I mean, they made it more vertical

00:43:43 ◼   ► than the one that came before it, right?

00:43:45 ◼   ► Like, it actually became a little bit taller.

00:43:47 ◼   ► This is the most vertical.

00:43:49 ◼   ► This is the most portrait iPad.

00:43:51 ◼   ► But, yeah, I actually like this.

00:43:53 ◼   ► I think they should bring this to every iPad.

00:43:55 ◼   ► I think it's smart because I never think about

00:43:58 ◼   ► what's up and down for volume on this one.

00:44:01 ◼   ► It just is always correct, which I kind of like.

00:44:04 ◼   ► Talking about the portraiteness of it,

00:44:07 ◼   ► very easy to type there.

00:44:10 ◼   ► In landscape, if you bring up the software keyboard,

00:44:13 ◼   ► you lose basically the whole display,

00:44:16 ◼   ► which is interesting because this is the only one

00:44:19 ◼   ► that Apple doesn't sell with a keyboard,

00:44:21 ◼   ► which I understand why they don't,

00:44:22 ◼   ► but it's funny for that reason.

00:44:24 ◼   ► It's maybe the one that most needs a keyboard.

00:44:27 ◼   ► So I have been using the split and floating keyboards a lot.

00:44:31 ◼   ► Right, which are in there.

00:44:33 ◼   ► Yeah, and, again, the split keyboard works great on this one

00:44:36 ◼   ► because then you have back-to-thumb typing again.

00:44:38 ◼   ► Mm-hmm, and I definitely recommend,

00:44:40 ◼   ► and I put a picture in my review about this,

00:44:43 ◼   ► but either get a keyboard that's got a little case

00:44:46 ◼   ► that is a place where you can set it

00:44:48 ◼   ► or use the Smart Folio to do it or get a little stand.

00:44:52 ◼   ► It doesn't even need to be an iPad stand.

00:44:54 ◼   ► It could be any little art stand.

00:44:57 ◼   ► I got a thing that came with my desk set,

00:45:00 ◼   ► like my pen holder.

00:45:02 ◼   ► It came with my desk when I bought my desk.

00:45:04 ◼   ► It was a throw-in.

00:45:05 ◼   ► And one of the items in this six-piece bamboo office desk stuff

00:45:10 ◼   ► was a phone holder, which I always thought was so weird.

00:45:16 ◼   ► Like, why do you need a phone?

00:45:17 ◼   ► But it fits that iPad mini,

00:45:19 ◼   ► and I just used that and a random Bluetooth keyboard.

00:45:23 ◼   ► And I put it in vertical mode,

00:45:24 ◼   ► and I wrote my entire iPadOS 15 story for six colors on it.

00:45:30 ◼   ► So the point is, I don't think,

00:45:34 ◼   ► and somebody will probably make something that's like a case

00:45:36 ◼   ► that also is a keyboard for the iPad mini.

00:45:39 ◼   ► Don't buy it.

00:45:41 ◼   ► The iPad mini is too small to have a decent-sized keyboard on it.

00:45:44 ◼   ► So get a keyboard that you can --

00:45:47 ◼   ► or if you already have a keyboard,

00:45:49 ◼   ► just get a Bluetooth keyboard that you can take with you

00:45:52 ◼   ► and either a case that lets you put it up, prop it up,

00:45:55 ◼   ► or like a little stand,

00:45:57 ◼   ► and that's how you write on the iPad mini.

00:45:59 ◼   ► And you bring that stuff with you,

00:46:01 ◼   ► and you can get a tiny, thin, light keyboard

00:46:05 ◼   ► and throw it in a bag and have it at the ready.

00:46:07 ◼   ► So that's what I would recommend.

00:46:09 ◼   ► -And also, like, Bluetooth will work,

00:46:11 ◼   ► and because it has USB-C on it,

00:46:13 ◼   ► you can plug in any keyboard with a USB-C cable.

00:46:15 ◼   ► -Yeah, also true.

00:46:16 ◼   ► You can literally just plug in any USB-C keyboard.

00:46:19 ◼   ► I really enjoyed writing in vertical orientation

00:46:23 ◼   ► just because the screen's so small,

00:46:25 ◼   ► and that was a better --

00:46:26 ◼   ► I mean, I like writing in vertical anyway,

00:46:27 ◼   ► but on the iPad mini, I felt like it was a really good fit.

00:46:30 ◼   ► And if you use a USB keyboard,

00:46:32 ◼   ► then you have to have the port on top,

00:46:36 ◼   ► and then you have to stare at the cord

00:46:37 ◼   ► coming out the top of the iPad,

00:46:39 ◼   ► which is, like, a little thing, but it's weird.

00:46:41 ◼   ► So, yeah, anyway, that's my --

00:46:43 ◼   ► I think this is actually

00:46:44 ◼   ► a pretty great little portable writing tool,

00:46:47 ◼   ► but, you know, it's not something

00:46:51 ◼   ► where you can turn it into a little teeny-tiny laptop

00:46:53 ◼   ► without a keyboard that's bad.

00:46:55 ◼   ► So find a -- you know, like, something --

00:46:58 ◼   ► I was using -- I actually tried the Studio Neat Canvas with it,

00:47:01 ◼   ► which is like an Apple Magic keyboard...

00:47:03 ◼   ► -Canopy.

00:47:04 ◼   ► -...in a little protective case. Canopy, that's right.

00:47:06 ◼   ► And you snap it back, and you put the iPad in it,

00:47:08 ◼   ► and then you've got a thing that's kind of like a laptop

00:47:10 ◼   ► but kind of not.

00:47:11 ◼   ► You use it on a tabletop.

00:47:13 ◼   ► Like, lots of options out there.

00:47:15 ◼   ► Choose your favorite.

00:47:16 ◼   ► Or just find a keyboard you got laying around.

00:47:18 ◼   ► That's all you really need.

00:47:19 ◼   ► -Mm-hmm.

00:47:20 ◼   ► So this thing has a version of the A15 in it.

00:47:23 ◼   ► We spoke about that last time, that it is a binned version.

00:47:25 ◼   ► So it has less GPU cores and a slower CPU than the phone.

00:47:32 ◼   ► But you really put that thing through the ringer

00:47:34 ◼   ► for your review, didn't you?

00:47:35 ◼   ► -Yeah, so the A15 on the iPad Mini is a lower clock speed.

00:47:39 ◼   ► So its score is essentially the same as the iPad Air,

00:47:42 ◼   ► which is an A14, other than the GPUs a little bit better

00:47:45 ◼   ► 'cause it's got the five GPUs that the iPhone 13 doesn't have

00:47:49 ◼   ► but the 13 Pro has.

00:47:50 ◼   ► -Oh, it has the five. Sorry.

00:47:52 ◼   ► It has more than the regular phone.

00:47:54 ◼   ► -Yeah, they lower the clock speed

00:47:56 ◼   ► but didn't throw out a GPU core, essentially.

00:48:00 ◼   ► Bottom line is, whether it's A14 or A15 performance,

00:48:03 ◼   ► iPad Air, iPad Mini, the point I wanted to make --

00:48:06 ◼   ► and I did, I edited a podcast on it with the Apple Pencil.

00:48:09 ◼   ► I needed to do it in vertical orientation

00:48:11 ◼   ► 'cause, again, it's a very small screen

00:48:13 ◼   ► and I needed to see all my tracks.

00:48:15 ◼   ► But I did that.

00:48:16 ◼   ► I did the "Relay FM" balderdash bonus episode

00:48:20 ◼   ► that's in the departures feed on relay.fm.

00:48:23 ◼   ► I did that entirely on the iPad Mini

00:48:28 ◼   ► with the Apple Pencil in Fairlight Recording Studio.

00:48:31 ◼   ► It worked great.

00:48:32 ◼   ► I wrote an article.

00:48:34 ◼   ► Like, I did all the things that I would do on my iPad Pro,

00:48:38 ◼   ► and all I can report is that it did them all fine.

00:48:41 ◼   ► Like, literally, the Air and the Mini are full-featured,

00:48:46 ◼   ► and the iPad line has been so overpowered

00:48:49 ◼   ► for the last few years

00:48:51 ◼   ► that, while it doesn't have M1 power,

00:48:54 ◼   ► it has all the power it needs, essentially,

00:48:57 ◼   ► to do whatever you want.

00:48:58 ◼   ► So the screen may be small,

00:49:00 ◼   ► but the capability is not limited.

00:49:03 ◼   ► It pretty much will do whatever you throw at it.

00:49:06 ◼   ► -This is it, right?

00:49:07 ◼   ► Like, this thing will handle mightily

00:49:12 ◼   ► more than you would probably want to do on it in most cases.

00:49:16 ◼   ► Because, like... -Yes.

00:49:18 ◼   ► Editing a podcast in portrait mode on an iPad Mini

00:49:23 ◼   ► is the worst and best way to do that, right?

00:49:28 ◼   ► Because you want to have it in landscape

00:49:32 ◼   ► so you can see what's coming in the audio,

00:49:35 ◼   ► but if you put it in landscape,

00:49:37 ◼   ► you then can't see all the tracks, right?

00:49:39 ◼   ► So it's like, "Ah!"

00:49:40 ◼   ► This kind of isn't a great way to do this.

00:49:42 ◼   ► But if you want to do anything, the A15 will run on it.

00:49:45 ◼   ► But hey-ho. -Yeah.

00:49:47 ◼   ► -And it's much faster than the iPad Mini from 2019.

00:49:50 ◼   ► That much is certain.

00:49:52 ◼   ► -Definitely.

00:49:53 ◼   ► It has 5G, too, which is...

00:49:55 ◼   ► -Yeah, if you buy the cellular model, which, again,

00:49:57 ◼   ► you're going to pay extra for that,

00:49:58 ◼   ► and you're probably going to get the one

00:49:59 ◼   ► that's not the base model, and at that point,

00:50:01 ◼   ► it's a much more expensive product.

00:50:03 ◼   ► But it does have 5G support.

00:50:05 ◼   ► It does not support millimeter-wave, though.

00:50:07 ◼   ► So the version of 5G that's kind of like a hotspot

00:50:11 ◼   ► where you can get two gigs of Internet

00:50:14 ◼   ► and it's mind-bogglingly fast,

00:50:16 ◼   ► that version is not supported.

00:50:18 ◼   ► It won't do that.

00:50:19 ◼   ► It's just the regular old kind of like 5G connectivity thing.

00:50:22 ◼   ► -Yep, which is all you can get here anyway.

00:50:25 ◼   ► So we don't have millimeter-wave.

00:50:27 ◼   ► -Yep.

00:50:29 ◼   ► -Charger in the box. I was surprised about it.

00:50:31 ◼   ► There's a charger in the box.

00:50:33 ◼   ► Wasn't expecting that.

00:50:35 ◼   ► Speakers sound good. They're pretty loud.

00:50:37 ◼   ► I don't know if you had much time.

00:50:39 ◼   ► Were you editing with headphones on,

00:50:40 ◼   ► or were you using the speaker?

00:50:42 ◼   ► -I was using the speakers, and they were fine,

00:50:44 ◼   ► except that I discovered that in vertical orientation,

00:50:47 ◼   ► I was editing with the bottom speaker pressed against my body,

00:50:51 ◼   ► and that didn't work,

00:50:52 ◼   ► but the top speaker was making the noise, so it was fine.

00:50:55 ◼   ► And I readjusted a little bit

00:50:56 ◼   ► so I could get both speakers to play.

00:50:58 ◼   ► -Just once again, just because we're big fans here

00:51:02 ◼   ► in the upgrade program, yay for center stage.

00:51:04 ◼   ► Just happy that it's there.

00:51:06 ◼   ► -Got to be everywhere. Glad it's there.

00:51:08 ◼   ► Works great. Should be everywhere.

00:51:10 ◼   ► Glad they put it on this pro--

00:51:12 ◼   ► So to temper my disappointment with the color story,

00:51:15 ◼   ► at least they got the center stage story right.

00:51:17 ◼   ► That's the right thing to do. That should just be everywhere.

00:51:20 ◼   ► Put that thing everywhere.

00:51:21 ◼   ► -USBC, of course, just because -- even just for charging,

00:51:24 ◼   ► I would prefer it, because I have more USB charges --

00:51:27 ◼   ► USB-C charges in my house than Lightning at this point

00:51:29 ◼   ► because I have so many devices that charge via USB-C, so...

00:51:33 ◼   ► To round this part out, who is the iPad Mini for?

00:51:37 ◼   ► Who is this iPad Mini for?

00:51:39 ◼   ► -What I said at the beginning is what I mean here,

00:51:41 ◼   ► which is it fills a whole bunch of different needs.

00:51:46 ◼   ► And that means that it's not going to be

00:51:49 ◼   ► Apple's highest-profile product.

00:51:51 ◼   ► They're not going to prioritize it, right?

00:51:53 ◼   ► None of that is going to be true, but they keep it around.

00:51:55 ◼   ► So when Apple says, "Oh, well, you know,

00:51:57 ◼   ► pilots like it because it's small,"

00:51:59 ◼   ► like, that's the story of every use case for the iPad Mini,

00:52:04 ◼   ► like the Mac Mini.

00:52:06 ◼   ► It fits in a small space, or it's for kids,

00:52:09 ◼   ► or it's for somebody who wants the smallest thing possible.

00:52:14 ◼   ► It's for people who want, you know, say,

00:52:16 ◼   ► "Oh, I don't really want an e-book reader,

00:52:19 ◼   ► but an iPad could make a good reader for e-books

00:52:22 ◼   ► and other stuff, but I don't want to do

00:52:25 ◼   ► complicated stuff with it. I just want to do this."

00:52:28 ◼   ► I mean, that's literally what the base model iPad Mini is for.

00:52:30 ◼   ► It doesn't have a lot of storage.

00:52:31 ◼   ► It doesn't need a lot of storage.

00:52:32 ◼   ► It's going to do what you want, which is that pretty basic stuff,

00:52:36 ◼   ► other than the fact that, I mean, really,

00:52:37 ◼   ► it's essentially an iPad Air with a small screen.

00:52:39 ◼   ► And so the screen, you're trading screen size

00:52:43 ◼   ► for a small physical device, and it is, you know,

00:52:48 ◼   ► that screen is small, so you're going to have to crank up,

00:52:50 ◼   ► you're either going to need good eyes,

00:52:52 ◼   ► or you're going to need to crank up the text size on it.

00:52:54 ◼   ► But other than that, like, it's for anybody who wants

00:52:57 ◼   ► a small iPad, and I think especially, it'll do anything.

00:53:03 ◼   ► So it really is, like, no compromises, just tiny.

00:53:07 ◼   ► So is this the one that fits in your life?

00:53:10 ◼   ► Because it fits where other iPads don't, by definition.

00:53:15 ◼   ► - I think for right now, like, this would be my top pick

00:53:18 ◼   ► for somebody who wants an iPad for all of the things

00:53:22 ◼   ► an iPad can do that aren't work.

00:53:24 ◼   ► Because it's, like, so small,

00:53:26 ◼   ► but it still does everything really great.

00:53:28 ◼   ► Like, it's a great size for video, great for reading.

00:53:31 ◼   ► I think probably the best one for reading,

00:53:33 ◼   ► because it's so thin and light.

00:53:35 ◼   ► - Yeah, for sure.

00:53:36 ◼   ► - But my only caveat with this is it's great right now

00:53:42 ◼   ► because of its specs and design right now.

00:53:46 ◼   ► I don't know how long this iPad Mini

00:53:49 ◼   ► is going to be this exact iPad Mini.

00:53:53 ◼   ► The iPad Mini has had such a strange life, you know,

00:53:56 ◼   ► where it's gone from being, like, the darling

00:53:59 ◼   ► to, like, swept under a rug for a long time.

00:54:02 ◼   ► And I don't think it's possible to guess at this point

00:54:07 ◼   ► what Apple's plans are for the iPad Mini

00:54:10 ◼   ► for the next five years.

00:54:12 ◼   ► - If I had to put money on it,

00:54:14 ◼   ► I would be that they will update this iPad Mini

00:54:17 ◼   ► in two and a half years

00:54:18 ◼   ► and do nothing but put a new processor in it

00:54:20 ◼   ► and that this is going to be the same for five years.

00:54:22 ◼   ► And at the end of five years, everybody's going to be like,

00:54:24 ◼   ► "Oh, that iPad Mini still looks like it did in 2021.

00:54:27 ◼   ► What are they doing?"

00:54:28 ◼   ► And that's just the nature of it.

00:54:29 ◼   ► But if you buy one of these, you know,

00:54:31 ◼   ► Apple's not going to come and take it away from you.

00:54:33 ◼   ► So it's yours to do.

00:54:34 ◼   ► And it is so powerful.

00:54:35 ◼   ► Again, because the iPad has been so overpowered for so long,

00:54:39 ◼   ► it is going to do anything you want to do with it for years.

00:54:43 ◼   ► It really is.

00:54:44 ◼   ► Because it does more.

00:54:45 ◼   ► Even if you push it, like, you're like,

00:54:47 ◼   ► "I'm going to buy this and do video editing."

00:54:49 ◼   ► I'm like, "All right, well, you're pushing it then."

00:54:51 ◼   ► That's a little bit more.

00:54:52 ◼   ► But, like, for most people,

00:54:54 ◼   ► it's going to have enough power to serve them

00:54:57 ◼   ► for many years, really many, many years.

00:55:01 ◼   ► - Because even the one that was before it,

00:55:03 ◼   ► you could still get stuff done on it.

00:55:05 ◼   ► And you would still do most of the things you wanted it to do.

00:55:08 ◼   ► It was just old.

00:55:10 ◼   ► - I will give a piece of advice to people

00:55:12 ◼   ► who are going to plan on using this as a reader,

00:55:14 ◼   ► which is embrace focus mode,

00:55:15 ◼   ► because I think the biggest virtue of something --

00:55:19 ◼   ► Well, I love the E Ink screen on a Kindle or a Kobo.

00:55:22 ◼   ► I love E Ink screens.

00:55:24 ◼   ► Problem is that the E Ink readers are not multitaskers,

00:55:27 ◼   ► the unitaskers.

00:55:28 ◼   ► They're really only good at reading books.

00:55:31 ◼   ► And I'm testing, actually, an Android tablet

00:55:34 ◼   ► that's an E Ink tablet that will run apps and stuff.

00:55:37 ◼   ► And honestly, all it's done is reinforce the fact

00:55:40 ◼   ► that purpose-built unitaskers are better,

00:55:44 ◼   ► because, you know, an E Ink screen is not an LCD screen,

00:55:49 ◼   ► and it does not have --

00:55:51 ◼   ► Anyway, it's complicated.

00:55:53 ◼   ► There are things about that device

00:55:54 ◼   ► that are fascinating to me,

00:55:56 ◼   ► but, like, what it really makes me want, again,

00:55:58 ◼   ► is that a Kindle or a Kobo just have apps on them

00:56:01 ◼   ► that are designed for them,

00:56:03 ◼   ► because apps for phones are for phones.

00:56:05 ◼   ► My point here is, if you get an iPad Mini to be your reader,

00:56:08 ◼   ► that's great.

00:56:10 ◼   ► Use focus modes, because I think the best --

00:56:13 ◼   ► Other than the screen,

00:56:14 ◼   ► the best thing about a Kindle or a Kobo

00:56:16 ◼   ► is that you aren't being interrupted by a text message.

00:56:21 ◼   ► You aren't being interrupted by a push notification

00:56:23 ◼   ► from a news app.

00:56:24 ◼   ► You aren't being interrupted by a mention on Twitter

00:56:27 ◼   ► or anything like that.

00:56:28 ◼   ► They don't have any concept of that.

00:56:30 ◼   ► They really make you focus on what you're reading.

00:56:34 ◼   ► And now with iOS 15, you have focus mode.

00:56:38 ◼   ► And so I would just recommend,

00:56:40 ◼   ► like, the reading experience is vastly improved

00:56:44 ◼   ► by not having --

00:56:45 ◼   ► Or leave it in just "do not disturb all the time"

00:56:46 ◼   ► if you really want to, but, like, don't be interrupted,

00:56:49 ◼   ► because I think that it really degrades

00:56:51 ◼   ► the whole reading experience to be constantly interrupted,

00:56:54 ◼   ► which I am on my iPad, and I am on my iPhone.

00:56:57 ◼   ► So now that we have focus mode,

00:56:59 ◼   ► you could set that up and use it,

00:57:01 ◼   ► and I think that would make this a much better reader.

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00:58:55 ◼   ► It's time to talk about the iPhone 13.

00:58:58 ◼   ► So, I have just an iPhone 13 Pro Max.

00:59:03 ◼   ► You have all of them?

00:59:05 ◼   ► -I do. I have all of them.

00:59:06 ◼   ► -Big money Jason over here.

00:59:08 ◼   ► -Well, no.

00:59:10 ◼   ► [ Laughs ]

00:59:11 ◼   ► -A very nice company, so... -Robbed an Apple store.

00:59:14 ◼   ► -Sends me iPhones every year.

00:59:16 ◼   ► -Can you give me a rundown of the models and colors

00:59:19 ◼   ► that you have?

00:59:20 ◼   ► -I have a -- I guess they're calling it, midnight,

00:59:24 ◼   ► a black iPhone 12 mini.

00:59:26 ◼   ► -It's got a little bit of blue in it, right?

00:59:28 ◼   ► I actually do think that that --

00:59:30 ◼   ► the midnight on the regular phone looks really nice.

00:59:34 ◼   ► I actually do like that color.

00:59:35 ◼   ► -So, I have a black iPhone 12 mini

00:59:39 ◼   ► and a midnight iPhone 13 mini.

00:59:42 ◼   ► They look exactly the same.

00:59:45 ◼   ► -Oh, okay. Fair enough.

00:59:47 ◼   ► Maybe I just like the black then. Who knows?

00:59:49 ◼   ► -I have a --

00:59:51 ◼   ► Is it silver or starlight on the 12?

00:59:54 ◼   ► -I think it's starlight.

00:59:55 ◼   ► Silver is -- Silver is on the Pro.

00:59:58 ◼   ► The only thing they added to the Pro was Sierra Blue.

01:00:01 ◼   ► The rest of the colors are the same names as before --

01:00:03 ◼   ► graphite, silver, and gold.

01:00:05 ◼   ► -It's a professional starlight. Professional starlight.

01:00:08 ◼   ► -Wait. Are you saying 12 or 13?

01:00:10 ◼   ► The Discord's saying a lot of things.

01:00:12 ◼   ► What are we talking about? -13.

01:00:13 ◼   ► -On the 13? -We're talking about 13.

01:00:14 ◼   ► I was just comparing the iPhone 12 mini

01:00:16 ◼   ► to the iPhone 13 mini.

01:00:18 ◼   ► And their blacks are the same, and I can't tell the difference.

01:00:21 ◼   ► And that's just how it is, and get used to it.

01:00:25 ◼   ► So, okay. Starlight, I guess, is what this 13 is.

01:00:31 ◼   ► I have a gold iPhone 13 Pro,

01:00:36 ◼   ► and I have a Sierra Blue iPhone 13 Pro Max.

01:00:40 ◼   ► -Okay, so at least you got one right color,

01:00:42 ◼   ► which is the gold one, because the gold one's the best one.

01:00:45 ◼   ► I think, obviously, my personal opinion.

01:00:48 ◼   ► -Pop that right in the case.

01:00:49 ◼   ► -I have seen the Sierra, because Adina got a Sierra.

01:00:53 ◼   ► It's fine. Like, it's a blue.

01:00:56 ◼   ► It's a blue. It's me, Chris Pratt, over here.

01:00:59 ◼   ► I don't know. It's like --

01:01:01 ◼   ► -I am -- I love -- I love blue.

01:01:05 ◼   ► Blue is one of my favorite colors.

01:01:07 ◼   ► In my life, it's been my favorite color.

01:01:09 ◼   ► Orange is coming on strong, but blue, always there.

01:01:11 ◼   ► Love blue.

01:01:13 ◼   ► I'm super disappointed with Sierra Blue.

01:01:15 ◼   ► It's not blue enough.

01:01:17 ◼   ► I feel like it is once again gray with a little blue in it.

01:01:21 ◼   ► -Okay. Mm-hmm.

01:01:23 ◼   ► -It is blue. You can't deny it.

01:01:25 ◼   ► -And that's not even an anodization thing, right?

01:01:28 ◼   ► -And yet in certain light, it's blue, and in other light --

01:01:32 ◼   ► like, in lower light, it's just a very gray --

01:01:37 ◼   ► I don't know. I was disappointed,

01:01:39 ◼   ► 'cause I was like, "Yeah, blue phone,"

01:01:41 ◼   ► and it's not midnight blue, where it's so black,

01:01:43 ◼   ► you can't even tell that it's blue.

01:01:45 ◼   ► It's a real -- No, I was disappointed by it.

01:01:48 ◼   ► It is -- Once again, it is Apple's color conservatism

01:01:52 ◼   ► coming out, where not every phone has to be muted, right?

01:01:57 ◼   ► Like, you can make some that are not,

01:01:59 ◼   ► but this Sierra Blue is only stunning

01:02:05 ◼   ► if you consider the grand sweep of the color palette

01:02:09 ◼   ► of Apple's conservative color choices.

01:02:12 ◼   ► And, in fact, I would agree with you.

01:02:15 ◼   ► If you want a phone that is stunning,

01:02:18 ◼   ► that, like, shouts out, "Look at me,"

01:02:21 ◼   ► you get the gold one, because the sides of the gold one

01:02:24 ◼   ► are super shiny and gold and beautiful,

01:02:26 ◼   ► although, even then, the back of the gold one's kind of muted.

01:02:30 ◼   ► It is, but I like it enough, you know, 'cause, really, for me,

01:02:36 ◼   ► the only thing I like about the gold is all the gold,

01:02:39 ◼   ► so the gold on the camera, the gold on the sides, right?

01:02:42 ◼   ► And then the back of it,

01:02:43 ◼   ► they could do whatever they want with it.

01:02:45 ◼   ► I actually don't want the back to look gold, honestly,

01:02:48 ◼   ► 'cause that would be too much, right?

01:02:50 ◼   ► -Well, great. It doesn't.

01:02:51 ◼   ► -So, for me, it's kind of like it is a very, like, yellowy hue, right,

01:02:57 ◼   ► which works for me, 'cause I actually find that, honestly,

01:03:01 ◼   ► like, one of the things that I think is different about the gold

01:03:04 ◼   ► is that it gives you just the right amount of gold,

01:03:07 ◼   ► I think, before it being too much,

01:03:09 ◼   ► and then the back color is much more of a good, like,

01:03:13 ◼   ► companion to the gold part, where all of the other colors,

01:03:17 ◼   ► it feels like they're trying to match it,

01:03:19 ◼   ► and I don't think it works.

01:03:21 ◼   ► -So, I mean, this continues my disappointment

01:03:24 ◼   ► with the iPhone 12 Pro, which is I don't like the design

01:03:28 ◼   ► as much as I like the base model 12,

01:03:30 ◼   ► and I don't like the 13 Pro

01:03:32 ◼   ► as much as I like the base model 13 in terms of the design.

01:03:35 ◼   ► I prefer the shiny back to the matte back.

01:03:37 ◼   ► I think that I prefer the aluminum sides,

01:03:40 ◼   ► the shiny stainless steel sides.

01:03:42 ◼   ► I feel like they chose these two phones

01:03:44 ◼   ► to be kind of mirror, you know, like, opposites of each other,

01:03:47 ◼   ► and I think the other way is better.

01:03:50 ◼   ► The low-end choice actually looks better.

01:03:53 ◼   ► By the way, I have to say,

01:03:55 ◼   ► I take it all back about my iPhone 13.

01:03:58 ◼   ► Apple trolled me on my iPhone 13.

01:04:00 ◼   ► -Okay. -It's pink.

01:04:02 ◼   ► -Oh. -It's pink, and I can't see it.

01:04:05 ◼   ► -So, you thought you had starlight, but you have pink.

01:04:08 ◼   ► -No, I -- Well, I couldn't remember,

01:04:10 ◼   ► and now I'm looking at it and thinking, "Oh, right, it's pink."

01:04:12 ◼   ► The back looks completely white to me because I'm colorblind.

01:04:16 ◼   ► And the aluminum sides really pretty much look silver to me,

01:04:20 ◼   ► but I have confirmed with independent experts

01:04:22 ◼   ► within my house that it is a pink phone.

01:04:24 ◼   ► -Okay. -I wouldn't know.

01:04:26 ◼   ► So, thanks, Apple.

01:04:28 ◼   ► Fortunately, they sent along a silicone case

01:04:30 ◼   ► that makes it, like, extra pink.

01:04:32 ◼   ► -I mean, on their website, the pink one looks very pink,

01:04:35 ◼   ► but to be honest, on Apple's website,

01:04:38 ◼   ► all of the colors look more than they are.

01:04:40 ◼   ► -I can't judge how very pink it is,

01:04:42 ◼   ► but I will say that I can see some pink,

01:04:44 ◼   ► but it needs to be very pink.

01:04:46 ◼   ► If I can't tell that it's pink, it's not very pink.

01:04:48 ◼   ► It's subtly pink, and I can't see it.

01:04:50 ◼   ► It looks white to me, so it is subtle.

01:04:52 ◼   ► It doesn't even look gray. It looks white.

01:04:54 ◼   ► So it is very subtle, which is the story.

01:04:57 ◼   ► I mean, we talked about colors with the iPad Mini.

01:05:00 ◼   ► I'm gonna say it here, too. I'm really disappointed.

01:05:02 ◼   ► Apple feels -- It feels to me like they took a step back

01:05:04 ◼   ► with the colors of the iPhones.

01:05:05 ◼   ► There are fewer options on the 13s.

01:05:08 ◼   ► The blue one is still kind of a bold color,

01:05:10 ◼   ► but, like, where are the bolder colors for the fun 13s?

01:05:13 ◼   ► There's the red and the blue.

01:05:15 ◼   ► -The red doesn't count.

01:05:17 ◼   ► I feel like product red doesn't count

01:05:19 ◼   ► because, like, it's not really that red.

01:05:21 ◼   ► -It looks good.

01:05:22 ◼   ► -You know, I feel like it's --

01:05:24 ◼   ► When it comes to, like, being a color,

01:05:26 ◼   ► it's kind of like a cop-out

01:05:27 ◼   ► that Apple didn't actually really choose the color.

01:05:29 ◼   ► They just support the charity,

01:05:30 ◼   ► which is cool that they continue to do it.

01:05:32 ◼   ► -We established, I think, last time

01:05:34 ◼   ► that there's more than one color that's allowed for product red,

01:05:37 ◼   ► and they chose this color, but it's a bright --

01:05:39 ◼   ► At least it's a bright, bold color,

01:05:41 ◼   ► and the blue is a pretty good color.

01:05:44 ◼   ► But, like, I don't know.

01:05:45 ◼   ► Again, it's an incredible piece of technology,

01:05:48 ◼   ► and I'm complaining about the colors,

01:05:50 ◼   ► but, like, I still am a little bit baffled

01:05:52 ◼   ► because our iPhones are kind of a place to --

01:05:54 ◼   ► Yes, a place to express our personality,

01:05:56 ◼   ► and while I absolutely endorse, as we did with the iMac,

01:06:00 ◼   ► you need to have silver.

01:06:01 ◼   ► You need to endorse --

01:06:02 ◼   ► You need to not force somebody

01:06:04 ◼   ► to have, like, a bright, shiny color thing.

01:06:06 ◼   ► You need to give them options.

01:06:08 ◼   ► But I wish there were also options that were more fun,

01:06:12 ◼   ► and I'm disappointed in the limitations of these phones.

01:06:16 ◼   ► That said, you know, there are some options,

01:06:19 ◼   ► but I just -- Like, they made the big deal

01:06:21 ◼   ► about how fun the purple phone was,

01:06:22 ◼   ► and there's no purple phone.

01:06:23 ◼   ► I don't get it. I don't get it.

01:06:25 ◼   ► -So, by and large, the design of this phone --

01:06:28 ◼   ► The industrial design is the same as last year,

01:06:30 ◼   ► which was expected.

01:06:31 ◼   ► -It's the same.

01:06:32 ◼   ► The camera bump is different and bigger,

01:06:36 ◼   ► but otherwise, the industrial design choices of last time

01:06:40 ◼   ► are the same other than the color choices being limited,

01:06:43 ◼   ► and, you know, I like the design of the 13 more than the 13 Pro,

01:06:47 ◼   ► just like I did with the 12 and the 12 Pro.

01:06:49 ◼   ► -I can't help but laugh about --

01:06:52 ◼   ► Laugh with regards to iPhone 13 Pro cases,

01:06:57 ◼   ► and, like, case users now have a bump, too,

01:07:00 ◼   ► which I think is hilarious. -Yeah.

01:07:02 ◼   ► -Because I'm not a case user anymore.

01:07:05 ◼   ► I moved away from case life,

01:07:07 ◼   ► and I deal with the bump on my phone, right?

01:07:09 ◼   ► It's like, "Oh, you just put a case on your phone,

01:07:10 ◼   ► it gets rid of the bump."

01:07:12 ◼   ► "Not anymore. He's got a bigger bump."

01:07:14 ◼   ► -Not anymore.

01:07:15 ◼   ► -Yeah, it's almost like a protective bump now,

01:07:18 ◼   ► I think, that they're doing there.

01:07:19 ◼   ► -Which makes sense, because otherwise,

01:07:22 ◼   ► the lenses would just be protruding from the case,

01:07:24 ◼   ► but it is just funny.

01:07:26 ◼   ► The camera bump is big, but, like, I'm immediately used to it.

01:07:30 ◼   ► It's just like, whatever.

01:07:31 ◼   ► But I do think, like, I can't --

01:07:33 ◼   ► I mean, you could say this now --

01:07:34 ◼   ► I just can't imagine it getting bigger.

01:07:36 ◼   ► -I don't know. I mean, don't say that.

01:07:37 ◼   ► -Well, see? Yeah, 'cause it's gonna.

01:07:39 ◼   ► I mean, it will. I know it will, but I can't imagine it.

01:07:42 ◼   ► Can you feel any weight difference?

01:07:44 ◼   ► -It's hard for me because I have the two --

01:07:48 ◼   ► I've been using a Mini.

01:07:49 ◼   ► -I mean, I immediately felt -- I took it out of the box,

01:07:52 ◼   ► and I was like, "Oh, I know. I can tell."

01:07:54 ◼   ► Like, immediately, I can tell. -They all seem huge

01:07:55 ◼   ► and heavy to me, but, yes, it feels --

01:07:58 ◼   ► Yeah, they all seem huge and heavy to me.

01:08:01 ◼   ► -I did the device-to-device transfer thing this time.

01:08:05 ◼   ► -How'd that go? -Took a few hours.

01:08:07 ◼   ► Took, like, 2 1/2 hours, which is fine,

01:08:09 ◼   ► 'cause I was setting up my iPad Mini, so that was all good.

01:08:12 ◼   ► And it went mostly okay.

01:08:14 ◼   ► So the main benefit of doing this is that

01:08:17 ◼   ► I didn't have to download all my photos again, right?

01:08:20 ◼   ► And I have, like, 100-and-something gigabytes

01:08:22 ◼   ► of photos on my device.

01:08:23 ◼   ► And most of my applications were already logged in for me.

01:08:27 ◼   ► There were a few that I still had to log back into,

01:08:30 ◼   ► but, by and large, most applications,

01:08:32 ◼   ► I was already logged into.

01:08:34 ◼   ► And that's, like, big thumbs up.

01:08:36 ◼   ► That's why I would do it. It was great.

01:08:38 ◼   ► I did get no notifications for 12 hours,

01:08:40 ◼   ► which was very strange.

01:08:41 ◼   ► I have no idea if this was related

01:08:43 ◼   ► to the device-to-device transfer,

01:08:45 ◼   ► but my old phone was getting notifications,

01:08:47 ◼   ► and the new one wasn't until the next morning.

01:08:50 ◼   ► And the only other thing that went wrong for me

01:08:52 ◼   ► is I had to manually transfer my watch.

01:08:54 ◼   ► It didn't do that automatically, and it should with this.

01:08:58 ◼   ► And I am also one of the people --

01:09:00 ◼   ► I don't think this is related,

01:09:01 ◼   ► but I am one of the people that is affected by a bug

01:09:05 ◼   ► that Apple has addressed and will apparently fix,

01:09:07 ◼   ► is that face unlock with the watch

01:09:09 ◼   ► isn't working for me right now.

01:09:11 ◼   ► So I try and turn it on, and it just fails.

01:09:14 ◼   ► -Yeah, that's a known thing that apparently happened.

01:09:16 ◼   ► -This is a known issue, yeah, which is a shame,

01:09:18 ◼   ► but I don't know what it is that causes it.

01:09:20 ◼   ► It feels like it's actually pretty inconsistent.

01:09:23 ◼   ► Like, I know people that did the device-to-device transfer,

01:09:26 ◼   ► and it was fine.

01:09:27 ◼   ► And I know -- It feels like this is a pretty random thing,

01:09:30 ◼   ► but, like, there's some set of circumstances

01:09:33 ◼   ► which makes it feel like it's random.

01:09:35 ◼   ► But I would say, overall,

01:09:36 ◼   ► like, I actually kind of liked this way of doing it.

01:09:39 ◼   ► It's nice and clear.

01:09:41 ◼   ► You get a bit of customization to it, as well.

01:09:43 ◼   ► You can choose some things you do want to transfer over

01:09:46 ◼   ► and some not.

01:09:48 ◼   ► And really, all it is, you have to just wait a little bit,

01:09:50 ◼   ► but by and large, it worked fine.

01:09:52 ◼   ► And Dina's was a little bit different.

01:09:54 ◼   ► Like, hers worked, and her phone was working,

01:09:56 ◼   ► but then the old one still said it was transferring

01:09:58 ◼   ► for a long time, but it was done.

01:10:00 ◼   ► So the old phone kind of got stuck.

01:10:02 ◼   ► But if the old phone stuck, whatever,

01:10:04 ◼   ► you want to play with a new one.

01:10:05 ◼   ► But I think I'll do this.

01:10:08 ◼   ► Because, you know, iCloud -- The iCloud backup,

01:10:10 ◼   ► you get into the phone faster,

01:10:13 ◼   ► but then you're dealing with everything downloading.

01:10:15 ◼   ► And depending on the time of the day when you are doing that,

01:10:18 ◼   ► you can be in a real bad mess

01:10:21 ◼   ► because stuff's downloading, you know?

01:10:23 ◼   ► And I still had a bunch of apps

01:10:25 ◼   ► that were downloading from the store, but it wasn't as many,

01:10:27 ◼   ► and I didn't have to sync a bunch of data,

01:10:29 ◼   ► which is the thing that takes the time, right?

01:10:32 ◼   ► Most of the large chunks of data, that was already done.

01:10:36 ◼   ► So, you know, the only thing it didn't transfer over for me at all

01:10:40 ◼   ► were test flight apps, which I hoped it would do.

01:10:43 ◼   ► I had to redownload and sign into all of those.

01:10:45 ◼   ► So I had to sign into Slack and stuff again.

01:10:47 ◼   ► -I did an iCloud backup restore,

01:10:49 ◼   ► which now it offers --

01:10:51 ◼   ► It basically looks at your iPhone that's there

01:10:54 ◼   ► that is the iPhone backup and says, "Let me do a backup right now

01:10:58 ◼   ► so that I can be completely exactly where this phone is right now,"

01:11:01 ◼   ► which I think it didn't used to do.

01:11:03 ◼   ► Maybe it did that last year, but it used to be like,

01:11:06 ◼   ► "Is this a recent backup or not?"

01:11:08 ◼   ► And now, like, the iPhone just says, "Let me back up.

01:11:11 ◼   ► Let me run a backup run right now

01:11:14 ◼   ► so that it's completely exactly what this phone is."

01:11:17 ◼   ► And then I did a restore.

01:11:19 ◼   ► And the nice thing about the restore is that it comes back to life fairly quickly,

01:11:23 ◼   ► but then it's sitting there in the background

01:11:25 ◼   ► restoring a bunch of stuff.

01:11:27 ◼   ► And the difference is, yes, there's different stuff

01:11:30 ◼   ► that remains logged in with one process versus another.

01:11:35 ◼   ► Like, I think I got all my test flight apps back,

01:11:38 ◼   ► but I needed to relog into -- Oh, let's see.

01:11:42 ◼   ► Did I need to relog into Slack? I think I did.

01:11:44 ◼   ► -I mean, I had to because Slack wasn't installed.

01:11:47 ◼   ► But if I would have had Slack installed from the App Store,

01:11:52 ◼   ► it probably would have worked.

01:11:53 ◼   ► So I think what I would do next time is,

01:11:55 ◼   ► I would just install the App Store versions of a bunch of apps,

01:11:58 ◼   ► do the device-to-device transfer, then go back to Test Flight.

01:12:03 ◼   ► And then I would probably get what I needed

01:12:06 ◼   ► because then everything stays installed if you switch between one or the other.

01:12:09 ◼   ► But it was fine.

01:12:11 ◼   ► What I'll say is, it was fine.

01:12:14 ◼   ► It worked as I wanted it to.

01:12:16 ◼   ► And as we've noted many times on the show, that isn't always the case.

01:12:20 ◼   ► I had issues, but I expected to have some.

01:12:22 ◼   ► And the issues that I had weren't that bad.

01:12:26 ◼   ► Because, you know, manually transferring the watch

01:12:28 ◼   ► doesn't really do anything. I don't lose anything.

01:12:30 ◼   ► Like, the watch transfer thing is actually very simple

01:12:35 ◼   ► because it does this weird thing.

01:12:37 ◼   ► I don't know what it's doing, but it moves from one to the other.

01:12:39 ◼   ► It does, like, a backup and moves it over to the other device,

01:12:41 ◼   ► and it works fine.

01:12:42 ◼   ► And now it's paired to the other watch -- other phone. No issue.

01:12:46 ◼   ► So, really, I didn't expect it to be perfect.

01:12:49 ◼   ► And it did most of the job right.

01:12:51 ◼   ► And I had, in some ways, a better experience than I usually do

01:12:55 ◼   ► because I don't have to spend the next two hours with one password open.

01:12:59 ◼   ► Yep, it makes sense.

01:13:00 ◼   ► Again, go back to what we said many years ago about the iPhone upgrade process.

01:13:05 ◼   ► It's a lot less painful than it used to be.

01:13:08 ◼   ► They've done a lot of work here, and I migrated four phones last week, right?

01:13:13 ◼   ► So, it's better. It's a lot better than it used to be.

01:13:18 ◼   ► So, I feel pretty vindicated in my prediction about ProMotion.

01:13:22 ◼   ► I've been saying ProMotion was going to be the thing for me.

01:13:25 ◼   ► Like, I was very confident it was going to be the best feature of this new phone.

01:13:29 ◼   ► And for me, it is the best feature on this new phone.

01:13:32 ◼   ► It looks so good.

01:13:33 ◼   ► What do you think of ProMotion before I wax lyrical about it for a bit?

01:13:39 ◼   ► I fear that I am going to be a dissenter about ProMotion.

01:13:45 ◼   ► Okay.

01:13:46 ◼   ► I've been using ProMotion since it came out on the iPad Pro, right?

01:13:51 ◼   ► Like, I absolutely understand it, and I like it.

01:13:59 ◼   ► And I look at it on the iPhone 13 Pro, and I can tell that it's there.

01:14:05 ◼   ► There's no doubt about it.

01:14:08 ◼   ► It's smooth.

01:14:11 ◼   ► All the animations are smoother.

01:14:13 ◼   ► The scrolling is smoother.

01:14:16 ◼   ► I think the biggest point to it is that the text is still readable while you're scrolling, right?

01:14:25 ◼   ► In a way that it was maybe less readable while you were busily scrolling.

01:14:29 ◼   ► Animations, you definitely can see it when you flick from the bottom to go back to the home screen.

01:14:35 ◼   ► Like, that's all just much smoother.

01:14:38 ◼   ► It's nice.

01:14:40 ◼   ► That said, I don't pick up an iPhone 13 or 12 and go, "Ick, this is only 60 frames a second.

01:14:51 ◼   ► I wish I had ProMotion."

01:14:53 ◼   ► And so for me, what I have to say is it's a nice thing, and I look forward to it coming to all phones.

01:15:05 ◼   ► I would not buy a phone just because it had ProMotion.

01:15:09 ◼   ► I don't think it's that important.

01:15:11 ◼   ► Cool. We feel opposite.

01:15:13 ◼   ► I think it's friggin' amazing, and I am completely sold, and I would never go back.

01:15:18 ◼   ► I absolutely adore it.

01:15:20 ◼   ► Let me bring in the clincher. Myke, I bought an iPhone 13 mini.

01:15:24 ◼   ► We need to get to that in a minute.

01:15:26 ◼   ► Okay, we've got to get through all of this, and then we can come back to the mini part.

01:15:31 ◼   ► Well, the point is I have been tempted by ProMotion and the other features of the Pro phones,

01:15:39 ◼   ► and I've decided that I like my life pretty much the way it is, so I bought a 13 mini.

01:15:44 ◼   ► We will come back to that at the end, because we've got a lot of other stuff to talk about,

01:15:49 ◼   ► and we can come back to it.

01:15:50 ◼   ► But anyway, the display I think is amazing.

01:15:53 ◼   ► It feels so much more noticeable to me than on the iPad, like in apps, in the OS.

01:15:57 ◼   ► I think everything feels faster and more responsive and just overall more nice to look at.

01:16:03 ◼   ► This is for me the reason to upgrade.

01:16:07 ◼   ► If somebody said to me, "Hey, why would I upgrade to this?"

01:16:10 ◼   ► I would say to them, "For the ProMotion display," because I love it.

01:16:13 ◼   ► And there's a scale. Stephen can't stand it, turns it off, right?

01:16:17 ◼   ► He's never liked ProMotion.

01:16:18 ◼   ► And then Jason's kind of like, "Yeah, take it or leave it," and I'm like, "It's the reason to buy the phone."

01:16:23 ◼   ► And I think that it is going to be a personal taste thing.

01:16:26 ◼   ► I don't think it's going to be the same as Retina in that way.

01:16:30 ◼   ► Like, Retina was just like, you try it and you can't go back.

01:16:33 ◼   ► But I do think it has a similar thing as Retina, you have to experience it to know what is different.

01:16:40 ◼   ► I agree, and it is superior.

01:16:42 ◼   ► I guess my point is, and I feel this way more on the iPhone than I did on the iPad,

01:16:48 ◼   ► I will say you see it more on the Pro Max because it's just more,

01:16:52 ◼   ► and you see it more on the iPad because there's more pixels that are moving.

01:16:55 ◼   ► And I wonder if that's part of it too.

01:16:57 ◼   ► But what I'm saying is not that it isn't a thing, because it is a thing and it is really nice.

01:17:03 ◼   ► I guess what I'm saying is when I use a non, because I've done this for the last week,

01:17:08 ◼   ► I've gone back and forth between all these various models.

01:17:10 ◼   ► And the difference for me is that I am not, it's not like Retina,

01:17:15 ◼   ► where you go to a non-Retina Mac and you think, "Oh no, this is terrible."

01:17:20 ◼   ► It's not like that.

01:17:22 ◼   ► And honestly, when I was using the iPad mini, I didn't even think, "Oh no, no ProMotion."

01:17:26 ◼   ► I didn't think that. It's fine.

01:17:29 ◼   ► And then you see the ProMotion and you're like, "Oh, that is nice. That is nice."

01:17:33 ◼   ► It is definitely nice.

01:17:35 ◼   ► I guess what I'm saying is when I use a non-ProMotion phone, I don't miss it.

01:17:40 ◼   ► I just don't miss it.

01:17:42 ◼   ► It's nicer when it's there, but I don't miss it when it's not there.

01:17:46 ◼   ► And I feel like you, I mean, if you care about it, that's great.

01:17:52 ◼   ► It's another little brick in the wall, another reason to get a ProPhone,

01:17:57 ◼   ► but I feel like the camera is a much better reason to get the ProPhone than ProMotion.

01:18:03 ◼   ► But it's a good feature.

01:18:05 ◼   ► It's undeniably a beautiful thing to see that stuff scrolling by at 120 frames per second.

01:18:10 ◼   ► But I don't miss it when it's not there.

01:18:14 ◼   ► There are some bugs with ProMotion on the iPhone 13.

01:18:20 ◼   ► Apple have addressed them.

01:18:22 ◼   ► One is going to be fixed and another is kind of like--

01:18:25 ◼   ► I think it's a bug, it's like an unexpected thing

01:18:28 ◼   ► where developers sometimes have to make a P-list, amend their P-list.

01:18:34 ◼   ► I don't know how to say the right phrase.

01:18:36 ◼   ► P-list entry to say that they want to be able to take advantage of 120 hertz at all times

01:18:43 ◼   ► rather than just when the device is saying, "Hey, do it."

01:18:47 ◼   ► So I did also note that low power mode locks the ProMotion to 60 hertz maximum.

01:18:54 ◼   ► That makes sense.

01:18:55 ◼   ► I will say, there's a use case thing here too.

01:18:58 ◼   ► If you're somebody who is a scroller, which I mean,

01:19:04 ◼   ► like you are reading content as it scrolls,

01:19:08 ◼   ► and you scroll slowly and read the content as it scrolls by,

01:19:13 ◼   ► you want ProMotion because it makes the readability of scrolling text so much better.

01:19:22 ◼   ► If you're somebody who doesn't do that, who reads a page,

01:19:24 ◼   ► if you're a pager and not a scroller, it doesn't really matter to you.

01:19:28 ◼   ► That may be a simple use case difference.

01:19:31 ◼   ► It's like if you're trying to get content while you're kind of slowly scrolling along in Twitter or whatever,

01:19:36 ◼   ► this is going to be a way superior experience.

01:19:39 ◼   ► Let's talk about the camera.

01:19:40 ◼   ► What do you think of cinematic mode?

01:19:42 ◼   ► This is the mode that Apple, I guess,

01:19:44 ◼   ► this is the thing in the cameras Apple seems to care about the most.

01:19:46 ◼   ► Do you?

01:19:47 ◼   ► I think it's a lot of fun.

01:19:49 ◼   ► I feel about it a little bit like I feel about portrait mode.

01:19:54 ◼   ► They are cousins.

01:19:56 ◼   ► I think it's fun.

01:19:58 ◼   ► I think it looks fun.

01:19:59 ◼   ► I think you take videos in it and they look different,

01:20:03 ◼   ► and you show them to people and they're like,

01:20:05 ◼   ► "Oh, look at that. That looks so different.

01:20:08 ◼   ► Look at the..."

01:20:09 ◼   ► I shot a video of my dog on a path out in the woods,

01:20:13 ◼   ► and I showed it to my wife after we got home,

01:20:16 ◼   ► and she was there, but I showed her the video,

01:20:18 ◼   ► and she's like, "Oh, look, the background's all blurry.

01:20:20 ◼   ► That's really nice."

01:20:21 ◼   ► That's what cinematic mode is.

01:20:23 ◼   ► It is a mode for regular people to shoot videos that feel more cinematic,

01:20:29 ◼   ► and you couple it with the amazing, amazing stability stuff that Apple does

01:20:35 ◼   ► that they've been improving over the last few years.

01:20:38 ◼   ► I'm walking along on a trail with my dog,

01:20:42 ◼   ► and it looks like I got a steady cam.

01:20:44 ◼   ► It's bananas how good the stability stuff is.

01:20:47 ◼   ► Then you throw in the soft focus background kind of stuff,

01:20:51 ◼   ► and it's like, "Wow, this is so movie-like."

01:20:53 ◼   ► It's just a huge fun feature for regular people.

01:20:58 ◼   ► I'm frustrated that Apple talks about professionals

01:21:02 ◼   ► because it's not like portrait mode.

01:21:06 ◼   ► It's not good enough for professionals.

01:21:08 ◼   ► I saw, like, yeah, everything gets fuzzy.

01:21:12 ◼   ► The glasses on the top of somebody's head are fuzzed out.

01:21:15 ◼   ► The sides of the dog's face are fuzzed out weirdly.

01:21:19 ◼   ► There are places that are in focus,

01:21:21 ◼   ► and then other places that are the same distance that are not in focus,

01:21:24 ◼   ► and it's confusing.

01:21:25 ◼   ► If you're going to break it down and care about the level of professional quality,

01:21:31 ◼   ► whatever, it falls apart.

01:21:33 ◼   ► I wish Apple would stop making it about,

01:21:35 ◼   ► "We talked to a professional cinematographer,

01:21:37 ◼   ► and here's a movie we shot,"

01:21:39 ◼   ► and made it much more about, "Here are home movies that look cool,"

01:21:43 ◼   ► because that's what it's for.

01:21:45 ◼   ► I think Apple's mis-messaging this, and I don't know why,

01:21:48 ◼   ► other than putting it in a pro context because it's a pro phone.

01:21:51 ◼   ► I don't think this is a pro feature.

01:21:53 ◼   ► It's a fun feature for regular people, and it's really fun.

01:21:56 ◼   ► It looks amazing, and it's fun,

01:21:59 ◼   ► and you can overlook all of the limitations of it because it doesn't matter.

01:22:03 ◼   ► The only question is, is it fun?

01:22:05 ◼   ► And it passes that test. It is fun. They look great.

01:22:08 ◼   ► I think it's, like, a very fun feature, right?

01:22:12 ◼   ► This is the thing I keep coming back to, too.

01:22:14 ◼   ► It's like, this is very fun.

01:22:16 ◼   ► I have enjoyed playing around with it.

01:22:18 ◼   ► I feel like it will only get better like Portrait Mode did, right?

01:22:20 ◼   ► This is the Portrait Mode of video.

01:22:23 ◼   ► It's the same kind of technology.

01:22:26 ◼   ► For me, the killer feature is that you can edit it after the fact.

01:22:29 ◼   ► Sure, and that's fascinating because they actually have to put, like,

01:22:32 ◼   ► little key frames in and have you adjust,

01:22:34 ◼   ► and, like, there's a whole interface there that they've built in

01:22:37 ◼   ► that I have to add to my book about the Photos app

01:22:40 ◼   ► because it's a new feature,

01:22:42 ◼   ► but they are giving you that kind of control over it,

01:22:44 ◼   ► which also means that if you have part of it that you don't like,

01:22:48 ◼   ► you can change it.

01:22:49 ◼   ► I think that's important because if you're using this feature

01:22:52 ◼   ► for a precious moment in your life and the feature screws it up,

01:22:56 ◼   ► you can fix it.

01:22:58 ◼   ► I think that's why it's the most important.

01:23:00 ◼   ► I don't think this is the kind of feature where regular people

01:23:04 ◼   ► just shoot it and use it, and then the pros will come in

01:23:07 ◼   ► and tweak it and make it perfect because I don't think, again,

01:23:10 ◼   ► it can't really be made perfect,

01:23:12 ◼   ► but I do like that you can fall back.

01:23:15 ◼   ► If it did something that's not quite right, you can fix it

01:23:18 ◼   ► because you don't want to have a feature like this

01:23:21 ◼   ► and then shoot your kid's birthday party and have it get messed up

01:23:24 ◼   ► and be like, "Oh, I can never use that video

01:23:27 ◼   ► because the experimental cinematic mode feature focused on the wrong thing."

01:23:32 ◼   ► So I like that it's there so you can rescue stuff

01:23:35 ◼   ► that doesn't look right.

01:23:37 ◼   ► And it just makes it as well that I don't have to--

01:23:41 ◼   ► So here's the thing that I would say makes me feel like a professional using it.

01:23:46 ◼   ► I don't have to be smart enough to catch everything

01:23:51 ◼   ► when I'm immediately shooting, but I can fix it in the edit bay,

01:23:55 ◼   ► and that feels like a professional thing to me from where I come from, right,

01:23:59 ◼   ► of like, "We can do what we're doing here.

01:24:01 ◼   ► Something can go wrong. I can fix it later."

01:24:04 ◼   ► -Yeah, sure. -So that comes from my world

01:24:06 ◼   ► of being a professional.

01:24:08 ◼   ► I mean, this is probably not--

01:24:09 ◼   ► I mean, it's definitely not how professional video works, right?

01:24:12 ◼   ► Like, you can't change the focus afterwards.

01:24:14 ◼   ► That's why it's a prosumer feature to use that buzzword is.

01:24:17 ◼   ► It's giving you a pro kind of vibe for something that a pro would never use

01:24:21 ◼   ► but you are using.

01:24:23 ◼   ► And then I get to look like, "Oh, look at this cool thing that I did."

01:24:26 ◼   ► And it looks cool, right?

01:24:28 ◼   ► I mean, it really does.

01:24:30 ◼   ► Like, that's the bottom line is that it's a super fun feature,

01:24:34 ◼   ► and it is only going to get better.

01:24:36 ◼   ► And I feel-- This 1.0, I feel more positive towards than portrait mode.

01:24:41 ◼   ► Like, I like portrait mode, but it took a while, really, to get good.

01:24:47 ◼   ► Or even--

01:24:49 ◼   ► It feels similar. It's got problems, but it's fun.

01:24:53 ◼   ► Like, it's got problems, but it's fun.

01:24:55 ◼   ► Like, I take portrait mode pictures all the time because they're fun,

01:24:58 ◼   ► and I'm aware of the failures, and I know that I could turn it off

01:25:01 ◼   ► if I don't like it, right?

01:25:03 ◼   ► But it is fun, and this is--

01:25:05 ◼   ► I'd say this is more dramatic because we are all so well-versed

01:25:09 ◼   ► as 21st century people in visual--

01:25:12 ◼   ► reading visual media, reading what a movie frame composition is.

01:25:18 ◼   ► And that's what this feature is playing on,

01:25:20 ◼   ► and it just gives you that extra little vibe of it

01:25:23 ◼   ► while you're watching it.

01:25:24 ◼   ► Like, "Oh, it's like-- Oh, it's--"

01:25:27 ◼   ► Literally, I just took a video of my dog out on a trail,

01:25:32 ◼   ► but now the background is blurred out, and she stays in focus,

01:25:35 ◼   ► and it's like, "Oh, my God!"

01:25:37 ◼   ► It shouldn't be that cool, but it is because of cinematic mode.

01:25:41 ◼   ► That's the whole point of it.

01:25:43 ◼   ► Tyler Stormont had a great video on YouTube

01:25:46 ◼   ► because he is a professional, and he talks about it,

01:25:49 ◼   ► and he's pretty excited about it too.

01:25:51 ◼   ► And because he's a professional,

01:25:53 ◼   ► what he shoots with it is very beautiful, plus he's shot it in Hawaii.

01:25:56 ◼   ► So I'm going to put a link in the show notes to this.

01:25:58 ◼   ► He explains it and goes through it and has some really great examples

01:26:01 ◼   ► of what you can do with this mode.

01:26:03 ◼   ► So if people want to see it, they can.

01:26:05 ◼   ► It's better than me just shooting things on my desk, right,

01:26:08 ◼   ► which I could also do, but it's not as exciting.

01:26:11 ◼   ► I love the macro mode.

01:26:13 ◼   ► I wanted this for ages, and I'm really happy that they put it in there.

01:26:17 ◼   ► This is also something that Apple said they're going to improve

01:26:21 ◼   ► because currently right now it automatically switches,

01:26:24 ◼   ► and they're going to add the ability for you to manually turn it on and off,

01:26:28 ◼   ► I believe, so I think that'd be good.

01:26:31 ◼   ► I think that's the right call there.

01:26:33 ◼   ► Yeah, the macro mode is really fun, and you can get --

01:26:37 ◼   ► you're going to take a lot of pictures of keyboards with it, right?

01:26:39 ◼   ► I've already taken pictures of keycaps and all that kind of stuff,

01:26:43 ◼   ► which is one of the things I would want.

01:26:45 ◼   ► I have these really cool Pokémon artisan keycaps,

01:26:48 ◼   ► and I've wanted to be able to take pictures of them,

01:26:50 ◼   ► but I can't get it to look the way that I want,

01:26:52 ◼   ► and I already did it with the macro mode

01:26:55 ◼   ► because you can get really close up to stuff

01:26:57 ◼   ► and take really good-looking photos. I think it's awesome.

01:26:59 ◼   ► I'm very pleased with it.

01:27:01 ◼   ► And the photo styles thing --

01:27:03 ◼   ► so this is something that we've been talking about,

01:27:05 ◼   ► I think, quite a bit last time because I'm pretty pumped about it.

01:27:09 ◼   ► But the thing that I wanted to just mention --

01:27:11 ◼   ► because I've only tinkered with it a little bit right now.

01:27:13 ◼   ► I feel like this is something I'm going to need more time with

01:27:16 ◼   ► because Ian in the Discord reminded me,

01:27:19 ◼   ► obviously you do macro video, too, which is even better for keyboard stuff,

01:27:22 ◼   ► so I'll be doing a lot of that.

01:27:23 ◼   ► I've forgotten about macro video.

01:27:25 ◼   ► It didn't even cross my mind I could do that.

01:27:27 ◼   ► But the photographic styles thing where you can --

01:27:32 ◼   ► it makes me sound like it's a person.

01:27:34 ◼   ► Photo styles sounds like a person to me.

01:27:37 ◼   ► Terry Styles' brother.

01:27:38 ◼   ► Exactly. It's like, "Hey, this is photo styles."

01:27:40 ◼   ► Mm-hmm. Like and subscribe.

01:27:42 ◼   ► Because I feel like I need to spend a bit more time with it

01:27:45 ◼   ► and take a lot of photos of it and tweak it and stuff,

01:27:47 ◼   ► which I'm excited to do.

01:27:49 ◼   ► But the thing I was surprised about is when you open the camera app for the first time,

01:27:52 ◼   ► it prompts you to try it out,

01:27:54 ◼   ► and I would not have expected them to do that.

01:27:57 ◼   ► I know, right?

01:27:58 ◼   ► All right, check this thing out.

01:28:00 ◼   ► It's everything we already said about it, which is,

01:28:03 ◼   ► is this a pro feature?

01:28:05 ◼   ► Well, probably the pros are going to use RAW,

01:28:07 ◼   ► but it's a feature that gives you more kind of control

01:28:11 ◼   ► over the look of your photos in default mode, non-RAW, burned in.

01:28:16 ◼   ► Apple's pipeline is doing magic things, taking multiple shots,

01:28:20 ◼   ► putting them all together, making some artistic decisions,

01:28:22 ◼   ► and then you can choose a bunch of different artistic decisions

01:28:26 ◼   ► about the pipeline and get the photos that you want out.

01:28:30 ◼   ► So if every photo you want, you want to be kind of like cool,

01:28:33 ◼   ► you can do that.

01:28:35 ◼   ► I am somebody who loves, in the terms of photographic styles,

01:28:40 ◼   ► warm, rich photography.

01:28:43 ◼   ► Mm.

01:28:44 ◼   ► That's what I like, warm rich.

01:28:46 ◼   ► Is he related? Is he a friend of photo styles?

01:28:48 ◼   ► Warm rich?

01:28:50 ◼   ► Warm rich is photo styles' best friend.

01:28:52 ◼   ► Oh.

01:28:54 ◼   ► Warm rich, I don't know what his last name is.

01:28:56 ◼   ► They never say it. They just call him Warm Rich.

01:28:58 ◼   ► He's always taking off his shirt and stuff because, you know, he's too warm.

01:29:01 ◼   ► Because they do this thing where if you tweak it,

01:29:03 ◼   ► because you can tweak them, right, it gives it a new name for you.