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00:00:00 ◼   ► Is there where's there a good summary of what the hell happened in the keynote? I'm or in your notes god damn it John

00:00:05 ◼   ► I didn't take good notes. What do you want from me?

00:00:08 ◼   ► You guys are the best

00:00:11 ◼   ► So we are here live

00:00:13 ◼   ► In California almost on vacation. We are in my hotel room. So any weird audio things that might or might not be here

00:00:21 ◼   ► That's a the park 55s fault. Definitely not ours. Yeah, so we just got out of the State of the Union and

00:00:26 ◼   ► So I guess there's a lot to cover here

00:00:28 ◼   ► I don't know how much we're gonna get to today because we have a bit of a time limit.

00:00:31 ◼   ► So let's just try to get started, huh?

00:00:33 ◼   ► Right. So what was the first thing that was covered in the keynote?

00:00:36 ◼   ► Was it... I don't even... It was all a blurt.

00:00:40 ◼   ► WatchOS. WatchOS was the first one.

00:00:41 ◼   ► It was WatchOS. Yes. Yes. Yes. WatchOS.

00:00:43 ◼   ► Holy crap. It turns out that WatchOS 3 is actually the first non-beta version of WatchOS, in my personal opinion.

00:00:51 ◼   ► Man, did it look good.

00:00:53 ◼   ► Well, we haven't used it yet. So we don't know...

00:00:55 ◼   ► I said "look." I said "look good." I didn't say "was good."

00:00:58 ◼   ► - Yeah, but honestly, no, I mean, you know,

00:01:00 ◼   ► I'm kind of a watch skeptic at this point.

00:01:02 ◼   ► - Are you? - A little bit.

00:01:03 ◼   ► But no, I mean, I think it looks great.

00:01:06 ◼   ► And I was really, really hoping that they would,

00:01:10 ◼   ► you know, kind of just rethink the watch,

00:01:13 ◼   ► rethink the app paradigm,

00:01:14 ◼   ► rethink the difference between the glances and the app

00:01:19 ◼   ► and everything else, and I think they did.

00:01:22 ◼   ► And it looks really good.

00:01:23 ◼   ► I'm very tentatively optimistic about it, honestly.

00:01:27 ◼   ► I think it shows that they are,

00:01:29 ◼   ► like you know by getting rid of the glances

00:01:30 ◼   ► and by consolidating the app with the face and everything,

00:01:34 ◼   ► it looks like they are actually willing to reconsider

00:01:37 ◼   ► and rethink fundamental things about how the watch works.

00:01:41 ◼   ► And that is awesome.

00:01:42 ◼   ► And 'cause you know, it kinda needed that.

00:01:44 ◼   ► I think the overall impression

00:01:48 ◼   ► that I think we're getting from Apple

00:01:50 ◼   ► about the watch during this is please use apps.

00:01:54 ◼   ► Like that's a kind of, like you know,

00:01:55 ◼   ► first of all, please make apps for it.

00:01:56 ◼   ► And then secondly, they are being much more forward

00:01:59 ◼   ► with users, including things like the complication

00:02:04 ◼   ► like gallery they showed off at the end

00:02:05 ◼   ► of the State of the Union there.

00:02:07 ◼   ► They're being more forward with users about

00:02:09 ◼   ► how they discover that they can put apps on their watch.

00:02:13 ◼   ► And by making the apps better, hopefully they'll make them

00:02:16 ◼   ► a little more sticky and useful for people.

00:02:19 ◼   ► So overall, it looks great, and I really hope

00:02:22 ◼   ► that it ends up performing and just being as good

00:02:25 ◼   ► as it looks in the keynote.

00:02:27 ◼   ► - Yeah, as the one of the three of us

00:02:28 ◼   ► that I think is most enthusiastic about the watch,

00:02:31 ◼   ► I was overjoyed by what I saw.

00:02:32 ◼   ► It looked unbelievable.

00:02:34 ◼   ► Apple apparently has made tremendous strides

00:02:36 ◼   ► on making app launching considerably quicker.

00:02:39 ◼   ► As far as we know, all of that is software.

00:02:42 ◼   ► It doesn't require any new watch hardware,

00:02:44 ◼   ► which presumably is coming sometime soon,

00:02:46 ◼   ► but no formal mention was made of it.

00:02:48 ◼   ► It looked awesome.

00:02:50 ◼   ► And there were some other features

00:02:51 ◼   ► that I thought were really good.

00:02:53 ◼   ► the emergency thing that they did.

00:02:55 ◼   ► So if you mash down on what was once

00:02:57 ◼   ► the completely useless contacts button,

00:02:59 ◼   ► but is now the, like, what is that,

00:03:02 ◼   ► the glances button or not glances,

00:03:03 ◼   ► but like the app switch.

00:03:04 ◼   ► - It's like the app switch.

00:03:05 ◼   ► - Dock button, right?

00:03:06 ◼   ► - Dock, yes, right, dock.

00:03:07 ◼   ► So anyway, so you mash down on the dock button

00:03:09 ◼   ► and it shows you what today is the three sliders,

00:03:12 ◼   ► which is power off, power reserve, and lock device.

00:03:14 ◼   ► Well, if you hold down on the button long enough,

00:03:17 ◼   ► it will eventually place an emergency call

00:03:20 ◼   ► to the local emergency number in the particular locality

00:03:24 ◼   ► that you're sitting in.

00:03:26 ◼   ► And so if you're in Hong Kong

00:03:27 ◼   ► and you have an American watch,

00:03:29 ◼   ► it will call whatever the appropriate number is in Hong Kong.

00:03:31 ◼   ► If you're in America,

00:03:32 ◼   ► regardless if your watch happens to be British,

00:03:33 ◼   ► it will call 911.

00:03:35 ◼   ► It's very, very cool.

00:03:36 ◼   ► And it will also, I guess,

00:03:37 ◼   ► send a push notification to emergency contacts

00:03:40 ◼   ► with your location and I guess whereabouts or whatever.

00:03:44 ◼   ► It looked really, really cool.

00:03:46 ◼   ► - Yeah, this is, I mean,

00:03:47 ◼   ► I worry a little bit about how easy it is to invoke,

00:03:52 ◼   ► like if you just hold down the button,

00:03:53 ◼   ► because it is fairly, you know,

00:03:55 ◼   ► it's not that uncommon to accidentally hold down

00:03:59 ◼   ► a button on your watch if it's like

00:04:00 ◼   ► pressing against something.

00:04:01 ◼   ► So to have an action that only requires it to be held down

00:04:05 ◼   ► for a long time with no additional confirmation step,

00:04:07 ◼   ► I think there's a bit of a risk of false alarms there.

00:04:10 ◼   ► But overall, the idea of this feature is really nice.

00:04:13 ◼   ► You know, implementation details aside,

00:04:14 ◼   ► the idea of it is great.

00:04:16 ◼   ► and it's yet one more reason why some people

00:04:19 ◼   ► might want the watch, yet one more benefit

00:04:21 ◼   ► some people might get from it.

00:04:22 ◼   ► I don't expect this to be extremely widely used,

00:04:25 ◼   ► but for the people who do use it,

00:04:26 ◼   ► it'll make a really big difference in their life,

00:04:29 ◼   ► and that's nothing to sneeze at.

00:04:32 ◼   ► - I think you can't make it too complicated though,

00:04:34 ◼   ► because if you're in a situation,

00:04:36 ◼   ► you can't really make it be an interaction,

00:04:39 ◼   ► you can't really make it so, okay, well,

00:04:41 ◼   ► to call 911, do this, then look at your watch,

00:04:44 ◼   ► then place your finger precisely to touch this thing,

00:04:46 ◼   ► then do that, then confirm and double confirm

00:04:49 ◼   ► and insert both keys.

00:04:49 ◼   ► It really has to be the all I can do in this injured state

00:04:53 ◼   ► is grow up from my watch, feel a physical button,

00:04:55 ◼   ► and hold it down for a really long time.

00:04:57 ◼   ► And even that may be beyond the physical abilities of someone

00:05:00 ◼   ► who's in a real dire emergency.

00:05:03 ◼   ► I mean, a more clever-- well, I don't know if more clever--

00:05:06 ◼   ► and even more prone to false alarms implementation

00:05:08 ◼   ► would be if it notices your heart rate going down

00:05:12 ◼   ► to unsafe levels or something.

00:05:13 ◼   ► but then again, some people have really low heart rates,

00:05:16 ◼   ► and I don't know, you know, like,

00:05:18 ◼   ► you're trying to make it sort of the,

00:05:20 ◼   ► this watch is actively monitoring

00:05:23 ◼   ► whether this person is alive and healthy,

00:05:24 ◼   ► and when they're not, it sends notifications.

00:05:26 ◼   ► I don't have to call 911, but at least sending

00:05:27 ◼   ► their location out to their emergency contact or whatever.

00:05:32 ◼   ► I mean, overall, for all the Watch 3 things,

00:05:35 ◼   ► I don't wanna be mean to Apple,

00:05:38 ◼   ► but it kinda makes me wonder,

00:05:40 ◼   ► the watch has been in development for a long time,

00:05:42 ◼   ► And they launched it with one of only two physical buttons

00:05:46 ◼   ► on the device being a feature that basically nobody used.

00:05:48 ◼   ► And they fixed that in watchOS 3.

00:05:50 ◼   ► Great.

00:05:50 ◼   ► Good kudos to us.

00:05:51 ◼   ► We're all talking about this.

00:05:52 ◼   ► You know, they've consolidated things.

00:05:53 ◼   ► And I think that was one of the biggest applause lines when

00:05:55 ◼   ► people realized that they repurposed

00:05:57 ◼   ► that huge button on the side to something that people lose.

00:06:00 ◼   ► And I'm like, when you were testing it internally,

00:06:02 ◼   ► did you have testers bias where you were so enamored

00:06:05 ◼   ► with the idea of contacting the other five people on the watchOS

00:06:07 ◼   ► team and sending them scribbles or whatever,

00:06:09 ◼   ► that you convinced yourself that that is actually

00:06:12 ◼   ► such an important feature that it deserved this big button.

00:06:15 ◼   ► I think it reveals a flaw in their testing group

00:06:19 ◼   ► or methodology or some other bias that they missed this.

00:06:23 ◼   ► And it's also a shame because of Apple's release cycles

00:06:25 ◼   ► that they kind of had to wait for an entire year for them

00:06:27 ◼   ► to fix this because it required a big rethink.

00:06:29 ◼   ► I feel like almost all the things

00:06:31 ◼   ► that they're revamping here, with the exception of the tech

00:06:34 ◼   ► stuff of making it launch faster,

00:06:35 ◼   ► but almost all the other revampings,

00:06:37 ◼   ► seem like things they could have discovered with a broader test

00:06:41 ◼   ► group when they were coming up with the first design.

00:06:43 ◼   ► And the rest of the stuff, like making it launch faster--

00:06:46 ◼   ► it's not really making it launch faster.

00:06:47 ◼   ► It's making it be already launched.

00:06:48 ◼   ► I think it'd be already there to keep more stuff in memory

00:06:51 ◼   ► so you don't have to launch it, because you're never

00:06:53 ◼   ► going to be able to launch it fast in this slow hardware.

00:06:55 ◼   ► That seems like a good rethinking.

00:06:57 ◼   ► I've heard some people say that it's actually still not quite

00:07:02 ◼   ► streamlined enough, and that you could streamline it further

00:07:04 ◼   ► so that you could control the entire watch with just

00:07:07 ◼   ► the physical buttons.

00:07:08 ◼   ► For example, when your fingers are sweaty,

00:07:10 ◼   ► the sweaty finger people are very angry.

00:07:11 ◼   ► The idea that trying to use your watch at a certain point,

00:07:16 ◼   ► your finger becomes useless because it's too sweaty.

00:07:19 ◼   ► And so they want to be able to quickly hit physical buttons

00:07:22 ◼   ► to stop and start a timer on their workout and stop

00:07:24 ◼   ► in situations where their finger cannot precisely interact

00:07:27 ◼   ► with the screen in any way.

00:07:28 ◼   ► So I think there's still ways to go in terms of accessibility

00:07:31 ◼   ► for can I use the watch like a regular watch

00:07:34 ◼   ► without touching the screen at all?

00:07:35 ◼   ► I'm not sure that's a use case that Apple

00:07:37 ◼   ► cares about at this point.

00:07:38 ◼   ► but definitely watchOS 3 is a huge step

00:07:40 ◼   ► in the right direction on all fronts,

00:07:43 ◼   ► especially if it performs the way they showed,

00:07:45 ◼   ► and especially if whatever hit there is to battery life

00:07:47 ◼   ► is not noticeable, because one thing I think people

00:07:49 ◼   ► have mostly not been complaining about

00:07:50 ◼   ► is that my watch dies in the middle of the day,

00:07:52 ◼   ► so maybe they have a little bit of battery to spare,

00:07:54 ◼   ► maybe they can squish things down,

00:07:56 ◼   ► and there'll be enough overhead

00:07:57 ◼   ► for all these background updates and stuff like that.

00:07:59 ◼   ► - Yeah, well, I mean, the watch battery

00:08:00 ◼   ► is a bit of a problem for the 38 millimeter users

00:08:03 ◼   ► who use workout mode a lot.

00:08:04 ◼   ► - Yeah, that's true.

00:08:05 ◼   ► - But beyond that, yeah, then generally you're right.

00:08:07 ◼   ► I mean, when I was wearing the watch,

00:08:08 ◼   ► I would finish most days with like 50% battery left,

00:08:11 ◼   ► which is great.

00:08:12 ◼   ► - But you weren't using the apps on the watch.

00:08:13 ◼   ► - That's true, yeah.

00:08:14 ◼   ► - I wanted to see how this works out in practice.

00:08:15 ◼   ► It's like, because the apps were so cumbersome to use,

00:08:19 ◼   ► you wouldn't use it for that.

00:08:20 ◼   ► And so now, if they become better to use,

00:08:22 ◼   ► I don't know, the whole pressure is that

00:08:24 ◼   ► we want people to be in and out of the app quickly,

00:08:26 ◼   ► small, quick interactions,

00:08:27 ◼   ► and your interactions can't be quick

00:08:28 ◼   ► if you can't start them until three, 10 seconds pass.

00:08:33 ◼   ► They also were talking about how the current app

00:08:35 ◼   ► won't go away for a much longer period of time.

00:08:37 ◼   ► So if you're in the store looking at a shopping list,

00:08:40 ◼   ► every time you look at the shopping list,

00:08:42 ◼   ► you somehow navigate to it and you check off the item

00:08:44 ◼   ► you just got.

00:08:45 ◼   ► And then you put your arm down.

00:08:46 ◼   ► You walk 20 feet in the aisle, pick up another item,

00:08:48 ◼   ► pick up your watch again, it's like,

00:08:49 ◼   ► I have no idea what you were just looking at.

00:08:50 ◼   ► Here's the time.

00:08:51 ◼   ► Like, I was just looking at the grocery list.

00:08:53 ◼   ► Find the grocery list again.

00:08:54 ◼   ► Even if it's as simple as like hit the button,

00:08:56 ◼   ► swipe swipe to the dock, go back into the,

00:08:58 ◼   ► it will remember, oh, you were just looking

00:09:00 ◼   ► at your grocery list and stick on that.

00:09:01 ◼   ► And this is kind of like a mind reading thing where

00:09:03 ◼   ► When you want it to be on the last thing you were looking at,

00:09:06 ◼   ► you're frustrated that it's not.

00:09:07 ◼   ► But if you just wanted to show the time,

00:09:08 ◼   ► you're frustrated that it's showing the previous watch.

00:09:10 ◼   ► So this is another delicate balance,

00:09:12 ◼   ► and I hope they sort of user tested this more

00:09:15 ◼   ► in the real world.

00:09:16 ◼   ► Maybe now that the watch is public,

00:09:17 ◼   ► they could have been all wearing it.

00:09:18 ◼   ► Maybe that was the flaw in the methodology.

00:09:19 ◼   ► If you try to wear it secretly with a small group of people,

00:09:22 ◼   ► you're not gonna learn.

00:09:24 ◼   ► Because it's so easy to convince yourself

00:09:25 ◼   ► that little wheel of people is super awesome,

00:09:27 ◼   ► and you could send each other digital touches and stuff.

00:09:30 ◼   ► And then once it's out in the wide world,

00:09:32 ◼   ► you were like, you know what, I don't find myself

00:09:34 ◼   ► using the wheel of people that often.

00:09:36 ◼   ► We have this whole big button, let's use it

00:09:37 ◼   ► or something else, but kudos to them

00:09:39 ◼   ► for not being stubborn and saying,

00:09:41 ◼   ► they didn't come up with the right paradigm the first time,

00:09:44 ◼   ► so let's try again, instead of trying to just,

00:09:46 ◼   ► let me just do minor tweaks and maybe we can adjust some,

00:09:48 ◼   ► it's as if they changed the purpose

00:09:49 ◼   ► of the home button on iOS.

00:09:51 ◼   ► Like, used to be when you push the home button,

00:09:53 ◼   ► you went back to the big grid of icons,

00:09:54 ◼   ► but we turned out that's totally wrong

00:09:56 ◼   ► and we're gonna use it for something else.

00:09:57 ◼   ► They got that right the first time on the phone,

00:09:59 ◼   ► they did not get it right on the watch.

00:10:00 ◼   ► - Yeah. - Yeah, we should,

00:10:02 ◼   ► I'll probably move on from the watch pretty soon,

00:10:04 ◼   ► but a couple of other notes.

00:10:05 ◼   ► A lot more support for people who are wheelchair-bound,

00:10:08 ◼   ► which I thought was really, really cool.

00:10:09 ◼   ► - That was great.

00:10:10 ◼   ► - And among other things, the stand notification now says,

00:10:13 ◼   ► "Time to roll, take a break,

00:10:15 ◼   ► "and push around for one minute."

00:10:17 ◼   ► I thought that was really awesome.

00:10:18 ◼   ► I can imagine if I was in a wheelchair,

00:10:20 ◼   ► I would think that's amazing and certainly more inclusive.

00:10:23 ◼   ► They did a lot, well, they sort of did a lot with faces.

00:10:26 ◼   ► So there's different faces, newer faces,

00:10:28 ◼   ► more customizable faces, yet unless I'm missing something,

00:10:30 ◼   ► you can't, as a third party developer, make your own face,

00:10:34 ◼   ► it's just that complications are a little bit more robust

00:10:36 ◼   ► now, is that kind of a fair summary?

00:10:37 ◼   ► - Yeah, that's basically it, I mean, yeah, you have

00:10:40 ◼   ► basically no ability to make faces at all,

00:10:42 ◼   ► but complications suck less.

00:10:44 ◼   ► You know, before, like, one of the reasons why we haven't

00:10:48 ◼   ► seen, you know, incredibly useful complications

00:10:51 ◼   ► from developers is that there's been all sorts of limitations

00:10:54 ◼   ► in place, and honestly, Underscore's way better

00:10:55 ◼   ► to qualify to talk about this than I am,

00:10:57 ◼   ► because basically, from what he told me,

00:10:59 ◼   ► I discovered there was nothing for me to do there really,

00:11:02 ◼   ► before.

00:11:03 ◼   ► You know, just things like, you know,

00:11:04 ◼   ► how often can the complication update its own data

00:11:07 ◼   ► from its app versus just try to guess from like a timeline

00:11:10 ◼   ► what it should be discovering and stuff like that.

00:11:11 ◼   ► So with this release,

00:11:13 ◼   ► some of those limitations have been lifted

00:11:15 ◼   ► and I mean, there haven't been removed.

00:11:17 ◼   ► They've just, you know, maybe like the limits

00:11:18 ◼   ► have been raised or some new things are possible

00:11:21 ◼   ► that were impossible before in a complication,

00:11:23 ◼   ► but it seems like the major advantage

00:11:25 ◼   ► that watch apps have is that kind of

00:11:28 ◼   ► unified glance slash app mode.

00:11:31 ◼   ► And if you're configured as a complication,

00:11:34 ◼   ► you're more frequently kept in memory or something.

00:11:38 ◼   ► I don't know the details, but you have

00:11:39 ◼   ► higher privileges in the system

00:11:41 ◼   ► and you're refreshed more often

00:11:42 ◼   ► and you can respond faster

00:11:45 ◼   ► 'cause you're kept more in memory.

00:11:46 ◼   ► So for people who wanna configure one or two apps

00:11:49 ◼   ► as their complications, those apps will be

00:11:52 ◼   ► substantially faster to respond

00:11:54 ◼   ► than the other ones in the system.

00:11:55 ◼   ► But we will see how that shakes out.

00:11:57 ◼   ► And all the apps will have background refresh.

00:11:59 ◼   ► So the big slam on the other, on the old watch,

00:12:02 ◼   ► was that a lot of the times when you went to anything,

00:12:04 ◼   ► any kind of screen, very often you saw old information.

00:12:07 ◼   ► And by going to the screen, you triggered, OK,

00:12:09 ◼   ► now this application gets to do something

00:12:11 ◼   ► to update its information.

00:12:12 ◼   ► And again, that kills the whole get in, get out,

00:12:14 ◼   ► quick nature of the watch.

00:12:15 ◼   ► The new system is background refresh

00:12:17 ◼   ► are all apps privileged for-- I think it's for all apps--

00:12:20 ◼   ► definitely privileged if it's a complication.

00:12:22 ◼   ► And the little demo they gave was, update all of your UI

00:12:26 ◼   ► so it always matches.

00:12:27 ◼   ► So that you're never in a situation

00:12:28 ◼   ► where the glance shows one thing,

00:12:29 ◼   ► but if you launch the app, it showed something else.

00:12:31 ◼   ► But if you saw in the complication,

00:12:33 ◼   ► it shows a third thing.

00:12:34 ◼   ► Just keep them all in sync, all always up to date.

00:12:37 ◼   ► And in the old regime of watchOS 2,

00:12:39 ◼   ► you couldn't do that because you weren't running

00:12:41 ◼   ► until they activated you.

00:12:43 ◼   ► And by then, it was too late because you were supposed

00:12:44 ◼   ► to already have the information.

00:12:45 ◼   ► So they've learned that lesson.

00:12:47 ◼   ► They've implemented, hopefully in a way that, again,

00:12:49 ◼   ► doesn't kill your battery and sorts out

00:12:51 ◼   ► the limited memory on the watch.

00:12:52 ◼   ► in a way that actually enables the applications you use frequently to be all up to date, all

00:12:57 ◼   ► consistent.

00:12:58 ◼   ► >> Yeah, and it all looked really, really good. It was funny that they actually showed

00:13:02 ◼   ► a demonstration of watchOS 2 and how crappy it is to load an app on watchOS 2. And it

00:13:07 ◼   ► was Kevin Lynch, I believe, who basically said in so many words, "Look at how crappy

00:13:10 ◼   ► this is, you guys. But don't worry, we fixed it, so it's all good."

00:13:13 ◼   ► >> Yeah, well, Apple's willing to critique their own past work once the problems go away

00:13:18 ◼   ► as a new work.

00:13:19 ◼   ► >> Yeah, I was about to say, yeah, once the problem's gone, then we're cool.

00:13:21 ◼   ► It isn't how crappy this is, it's look how crappy this was.

00:13:24 ◼   ► And now we've fixed it.

00:13:25 ◼   ► That's a very good point.

00:13:26 ◼   ► You're right.

00:13:27 ◼   ► A couple of quick other watch highlights.

00:13:29 ◼   ► Scribble, I think they called it, so you can actually do handwriting on the watch and that'll

00:13:33 ◼   ► turn into text.

00:13:34 ◼   ► I don't think that's going to be terribly convenient.

00:13:37 ◼   ► However, I do applaud the fact that it's a possibility that it's something you can do,

00:13:43 ◼   ► because sometimes you maybe don't want to dictate and maybe you only want to write one

00:13:47 ◼   ► word, like the example on the Apple website that goes through all the different stuff

00:13:50 ◼   ► on the watch is the word Starbucks.

00:13:52 ◼   ► Like, you're not gonna wanna,

00:13:53 ◼   ► you may not wanna dictate that necessarily,

00:13:56 ◼   ► but at least you can scribble out S-T-A-R-B

00:13:58 ◼   ► and it would hopefully figure out what to watch.

00:14:00 ◼   ► - I would never wanna be heard saying the word Starbucks.

00:14:04 ◼   ► - Naturally. - I'd be too embarrassed.

00:14:05 ◼   ► - This feels more like an accessibility feature

00:14:07 ◼   ► for people who have difficulty speaking to it

00:14:09 ◼   ► because I can't think of a situation where,

00:14:11 ◼   ► I mean, you can whisper to the watch,

00:14:12 ◼   ► bring it right up to your face and say, "Starbucks."

00:14:14 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:14:16 ◼   ► You whisper it, it's like a prayer.

00:14:17 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:14:19 ◼   ► Because scratching out those letters, graffiti style,

00:14:22 ◼   ► it's not graffiti.

00:14:22 ◼   ► You can actually write actual letters on the little watch

00:14:24 ◼   ► face, especially if you have the small watch.

00:14:26 ◼   ► Oh boy, that does not sound like a good time.

00:14:28 ◼   ► And dictation, for people who haven't tried it,

00:14:31 ◼   ► dictating on the watch, like dictating anywhere,

00:14:33 ◼   ► if you're afraid to be talking to your devices,

00:14:35 ◼   ► just do it a few times until you realize, wow,

00:14:37 ◼   ► this is faster than I could type on a keyboard.

00:14:38 ◼   ► Because it usually is for most people.

00:14:40 ◼   ► It's really efficient.

00:14:41 ◼   ► But yeah, it's nice they added it there as an option.

00:14:43 ◼   ► And that's definitely a watchOS 3 feature.

00:14:45 ◼   ► Hey, we'll throw it in.

00:14:46 ◼   ► We can do it.

00:14:47 ◼   ► Maybe it'll be good.

00:14:47 ◼   ► Maybe it'll be bad.

00:14:48 ◼   ► Maybe a few people use it in certain situations, but why not? Certainly it's not sucking your

00:14:52 ◼   ► battery up, it's an input mode and yeah, it's better than digital doodles to each other.

00:14:57 ◼   ► Oh yeah. And it also supports Chinese, which is really impressive. And actually that's

00:15:04 ◼   ► a great mini-segue. There were a handful of people of color on stage, there were a handful

00:15:10 ◼   ► of women on stage, and I thought every single one of the people of color and women on stage

00:15:15 ◼   ► absolutely killed it. We'll talk a little bit more later about the woman whose name

00:15:20 ◼   ► escapes me that did the music demo who I thought was fantastic, and the woman who did the scribble,

00:15:26 ◼   ► the Chinese scribble demo. I could have practiced that character, a couple of characters, for

00:15:31 ◼   ► six weeks and would have screwed them up.

00:15:32 ◼   ► Yeah, that's difficult. The amount of space, I mean, it looks so big up on the screen.

00:15:35 ◼   ► Oh, it's drawing a Chinese character? But think of, like, some of those strokes were

00:15:39 ◼   ► so small on, like, the finger must have been covering the entire thing. I don't know enough

00:15:43 ◼   ► about Far East text input to know how important it is to be able to do this on the watch.

00:15:49 ◼   ► Like is dictation worse in Chinese or Japanese or other languages like that because, I don't

00:15:55 ◼   ► know, it still seems like it would be faster to dictate. But certainly drawing out characters

00:16:00 ◼   ► or selecting radicals or whatever and combining into characters, like when you have languages

00:16:05 ◼   ► that don't just have 26 letters, it's a big feature.

00:16:08 ◼   ► Well and also when you have a language like that where the density of how many characters

00:16:13 ◼   ► you need to express the message that you're trying to send.

00:16:15 ◼   ► When you have only a handful of characters

00:16:17 ◼   ► versus having us type out five words,

00:16:19 ◼   ► I think it's more compelling,

00:16:20 ◼   ► 'cause it's less time to input this thing

00:16:23 ◼   ► on this device that has very limited input capabilities.

00:16:27 ◼   ► But overall, I think the doodling of characters is,

00:16:30 ◼   ► it's the kind of thing where it's going to be

00:16:31 ◼   ► one of those fine balances where it has to be

00:16:34 ◼   ► a very short thing you're trying to doodle,

00:16:36 ◼   ► and it has to be way faster than doing it,

00:16:39 ◼   ► than taking out your phone and just doing it there.

00:16:41 ◼   ► And like, it's all down to the implementation

00:16:44 ◼   ► and the context in which you're doing these things.

00:16:46 ◼   ► If it's going to be a big pain,

00:16:48 ◼   ► like the first few times you do it,

00:16:50 ◼   ► you're probably just gonna say,

00:16:50 ◼   ► "All right, I'm just gonna take out my phone

00:16:51 ◼   ► "from now on to do this thing."

00:16:53 ◼   ► So it has to be really good.

00:16:54 ◼   ► And it's probably not gonna be that widely used,

00:16:57 ◼   ► but it'll be nice for occasional use, I think.

00:16:59 ◼   ► - Yeah, and getting back to the diversity topic,

00:17:01 ◼   ► like, we've come to this before.

00:17:03 ◼   ► There's only so much Apple can do here

00:17:05 ◼   ► because the high-level, C-level executives,

00:17:08 ◼   ► the people on their important people page

00:17:10 ◼   ► are mostly all white guys, right?

00:17:12 ◼   ► And you have to wait for them to die or retire to be replaced

00:17:15 ◼   ► until you can fix your diversity problem at the top, right?

00:17:20 ◼   ► That's just a problem they face from years and years

00:17:22 ◼   ► of not paying enough attention to this topic.

00:17:25 ◼   ► So they're fixing it in presentations

00:17:27 ◼   ► the best they can.

00:17:27 ◼   ► They still have Craig Federighi and Eddy Cue and everyone else

00:17:32 ◼   ► up there doing it, and Tim Cook and the whole-- people

00:17:35 ◼   ► who are really, really in charge at the very top.

00:17:37 ◼   ► But right below them, the people who do the demos,

00:17:39 ◼   ► There's no reason that those have

00:17:41 ◼   ► to be a bunch of people who look exactly like them.

00:17:43 ◼   ► And so they're doing a good job.

00:17:46 ◼   ► And it's amazing.

00:17:47 ◼   ► They could have done this many years ago,

00:17:50 ◼   ► but it's taken a long time for them to realize--

00:17:52 ◼   ► the first time they did it, they'd be like,

00:17:53 ◼   ► we'll have one woman presenter.

00:17:55 ◼   ► Like, hm, keep trying.

00:17:58 ◼   ► Well, OK, we'll have two women presenters, but both white.

00:18:01 ◼   ► Good?

00:18:01 ◼   ► You're making progress.

00:18:02 ◼   ► It's like they're slowly working their way up to it.

00:18:05 ◼   ► And like you said, all the presenters were great.

00:18:07 ◼   ► And of course, they're gonna be great,

00:18:09 ◼   ► because again, these aren't just random people

00:18:11 ◼   ► they picked out of Apple employees.

00:18:12 ◼   ► If you look at their titles, they're in charge over,

00:18:14 ◼   ► intimately involved with the products they're presenting.

00:18:17 ◼   ► They're not random drop-in people.

00:18:20 ◼   ► They know their stuff, they're enthusiastic about it,

00:18:22 ◼   ► and like everyone else on stage,

00:18:23 ◼   ► they rehearse the hell out of them, so everybody's good.

00:18:27 ◼   ► So that was nice to see.

00:18:29 ◼   ► Like I said, it's still gonna be years and years

00:18:30 ◼   ► before you see that at the very top,

00:18:33 ◼   ► but I hope all presentations are,

00:18:35 ◼   ► this should be the minimum bar now

00:18:37 ◼   ► or below the top level, they should all be like this,

00:18:40 ◼   ► and quality-wise as well, because, yeah.

00:18:43 ◼   ► - Yeah, I thought it actually added to the quality

00:18:45 ◼   ► of the presentation as a whole, to hear different voices,

00:18:48 ◼   ► and because these people were, like you said,

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00:18:52 ◼   ► I mean, a handful of these people were the first time

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00:18:55 ◼   ► - Right, they did better than Craig's first time.

00:18:57 ◼   ► - Oh, God, yeah.

00:18:58 ◼   ► Now, to be fair, I freaking love Craig now.

00:18:59 ◼   ► - They're better than Eddie Q now.

00:19:01 ◼   ► - Yeah, that's true, that's true.

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00:21:35 ◼   ► - So next, tvOS.

00:21:38 ◼   ► The only thing I really got from that

00:21:39 ◼   ► that I was really excited about,

00:21:40 ◼   ► well there were two things actually.

00:21:41 ◼   ► One, dark mode, which is something

00:21:43 ◼   ► I didn't even know I wanted.

00:21:44 ◼   ► But now that, as soon as I-- - I know I wanted it.

00:21:45 ◼   ► - I know you did.

00:21:46 ◼   ► As soon as I saw it, I was like,

00:21:48 ◼   ► "Oh yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

00:21:48 ◼   ► "That's really good."

00:21:49 ◼   ► And supposedly single sign-on,

00:21:52 ◼   ► which supposedly will fix all those problems.

00:21:54 ◼   ► - That'll be awesome too.

00:21:55 ◼   ► So dark mode, I've noticed recently that some TV OS apps have been implementing their own

00:22:00 ◼   ► dark mode.

00:22:01 ◼   ► Like they've been responding, I guess, I'm assuming user requests for it.

00:22:04 ◼   ► And like, why do people care about dark mode?

00:22:06 ◼   ► It's not just aesthetics, but, you know, aesthetics is one thing.

00:22:09 ◼   ► Just ask Marco.

00:22:10 ◼   ► People sometimes like dark mode for their applications.

00:22:12 ◼   ► Second thing is people watch television in darkened rooms sometimes.

00:22:15 ◼   ► And if your UI has a white background and you come out of any kind of video, which usually

00:22:19 ◼   ► doesn't have a white background, it can be extremely sort of shocking and glaring.

00:22:24 ◼   ► And this is not why they did it.

00:22:26 ◼   ► But for me specifically, I have a plasma TV, and pure white on a plasma TV draws a lot

00:22:31 ◼   ► of extra power and can make your Transformers whine a little bit.

00:22:35 ◼   ► And again, this is not why they did it, but I'm excited by it.

00:22:39 ◼   ► And also because I watch TV in a semi-darkened room at night.

00:22:42 ◼   ► So it kind of boggles my mind that they decided to go with white for their TV UI because they

00:22:47 ◼   ► know people watch TV in kind of darkened rooms.

00:22:51 ◼   ► And you know, when the show is over and you hit the menu button, you don't want your eyeballs

00:22:54 ◼   ► blown out, especially since non-plasma TVs have incredible brightness. Like, LED TVs

00:22:58 ◼   ► can go super, super bright. And sometimes people haven't turned up that bright so they

00:23:01 ◼   ► can see them in bright sunlight. It's just not a good plan. And the single sign-on is

00:23:05 ◼   ► the other major pain point for like, you know, when you install applications, you got to

00:23:10 ◼   ► go through this little dance and go to a website and type in these codes. And I think that

00:23:13 ◼   ► stops the regular people from installing too many apps because it's a pain in the butt.

00:23:16 ◼   ► If there is a single sign-on that you can do once and handles all of that for you and

00:23:19 ◼   ► people implement it, which I'm sure they will because people want you to install their apps,

00:23:23 ◼   ► will be great. So two thumbs up.

00:23:25 ◼   ► >> Yeah, it seems, I mean, the single sign-on, I don't, honestly, you know, because I don't

00:23:28 ◼   ► have cable and, you know, I'm probably never going to see this myself. But the dark mode,

00:23:33 ◼   ► just going back to that for a second, you know, we saw like with the, with WatchOS with

00:23:37 ◼   ► the updates, it seems like WatchOS is getting like a major course correction. And with iOS,

00:23:43 ◼   ► which we'll get to in a little bit, I'm sure, it seems like the design language has been

00:23:47 ◼   ► updated to some degree as somewhat of a course correction, somewhat just, you know, refreshing

00:23:51 ◼   ► things, making things new. You know, things like buttons are now more visible as buttons

00:23:55 ◼   ► and some of the text is a little bit thicker to be more legible and stuff. The TV getting

00:23:59 ◼   ► dark mode, I wonder if that is kind of like a half step in a course correction where like,

00:24:05 ◼   ► you know, the previous Apple TV was all constantly dark background. You know, most other TV boxes

00:24:10 ◼   ► do dark background because, you know, all the reasons that it basically works better

00:24:14 ◼   ► for TVs, the way TVs are actually used and TV hardware and everything. The new Apple

00:24:18 ◼   ► getting this all white theme up front,

00:24:20 ◼   ► honestly I consider that a design misstep.

00:24:24 ◼   ► And I think they should have,

00:24:26 ◼   ► instead of just offering dark mode,

00:24:28 ◼   ► they should just make tvOS 10

00:24:30 ◼   ► or whatever it's gonna be called,

00:24:30 ◼   ► just make it dark.

00:24:32 ◼   ► Just re-theme the whole OS to be dark

00:24:34 ◼   ► because most of the other design elements

00:24:36 ◼   ► don't have to change.

00:24:37 ◼   ► That's one of the reasons they're able to offer a dark mode

00:24:38 ◼   ► without a whole ton of work.

00:24:40 ◼   ► Almost all the rest of the design works

00:24:42 ◼   ► whether it's a light or dark background.

00:24:43 ◼   ► So why not course correct all the way

00:24:47 ◼   ► and just re-theme TVOS to be dark,

00:24:49 ◼   ► and not have this weird setting,

00:24:50 ◼   ► and have everybody dual design their apps.

00:24:53 ◼   ► - Part of the reason they chose light mode

00:24:55 ◼   ► is it was a differentiator,

00:24:56 ◼   ► because like you said, every other TV box

00:24:59 ◼   ► was a blackish background with stuff on it,

00:25:01 ◼   ► and Apple was different.

00:25:03 ◼   ► Different in a bad way in this case,

00:25:04 ◼   ► but it is differentiated in the market.

00:25:06 ◼   ► It seems like they don't want to get that.

00:25:07 ◼   ► Even their dark mode is not black like the old Apple TV.

00:25:09 ◼   ► It looks like it's dark gray.

00:25:10 ◼   ► - Yeah, yeah.

00:25:11 ◼   ► - But anyway, the things that are most wrong with TVOS

00:25:15 ◼   ► are mostly involved inside the application themselves.

00:25:17 ◼   ► How do I navigate?

00:25:18 ◼   ► How is it presented?

00:25:19 ◼   ► And that's not an OS level problem.

00:25:21 ◼   ► That's like a problem of how do you implement your app

00:25:24 ◼   ► for showing TV shows and movies.

00:25:25 ◼   ► And individual apps can fix that.

00:25:27 ◼   ► Apples may still be not particularly convenient to use,

00:25:30 ◼   ► but the Netflix app or whatever can continue

00:25:32 ◼   ► to make a pleasant experience

00:25:34 ◼   ► within the framework that's provided.

00:25:36 ◼   ► - Yeah, the other thing that's worth bringing up

00:25:38 ◼   ► with regard to the TV is the new remote app

00:25:40 ◼   ► that Q promised like three months ago.

00:25:42 ◼   ► - Yeah, when he was on the talk show.

00:25:45 ◼   ► - Yeah, you're right, it was on the talk show, wasn't it?

00:25:47 ◼   ► That's here now, and to be honest,

00:25:50 ◼   ► I don't really see why that's totally remarkable.

00:25:52 ◼   ► - Yeah, for people who play games,

00:25:53 ◼   ► they can have multiple controllers

00:25:54 ◼   ► 'cause you can use any iOS device's controller.

00:25:56 ◼   ► That was the other big announcement in the State of the Union

00:25:58 ◼   ► that TVOS games can finally require a real controller.

00:26:01 ◼   ► Again, a misstep that seems,

00:26:04 ◼   ► remember there was the bouncing back and forth

00:26:05 ◼   ► when the thing was released about the copy,

00:26:07 ◼   ► but this is, I don't know how you can come to that decision

00:26:12 ◼   ► and not realize the implications.

00:26:14 ◼   ► It's not like anything has changed radically in the market since then.

00:26:16 ◼   ► They've just heard the cries of everybody else.

00:26:18 ◼   ► And those same cries, like, if you just got any five developers into the room and said,

00:26:23 ◼   ► you know, you can write games for Apple TV.

00:26:25 ◼   ► Oh, but you have to make them usable on this terrible little remote.

00:26:28 ◼   ► It's like, seriously?

00:26:29 ◼   ► No, you have to.

00:26:30 ◼   ► Why?

00:26:31 ◼   ► Because we want everyone to be able to play them.

00:26:32 ◼   ► Well, then there's certain kinds of games we just can't make.

00:26:35 ◼   ► Well, try harder.

00:26:36 ◼   ► And then, I don't know.

00:26:39 ◼   ► They still seem weird about games.

00:26:41 ◼   ► Apple's always weird about games.

00:26:43 ◼   ► This is a step in the right direction.

00:26:45 ◼   ► Those controllers are still super expensive.

00:26:47 ◼   ► Now we have support for four controllers, a family that buys four controllers plus the

00:26:51 ◼   ► price of an Apple TV.

00:26:52 ◼   ► Four controllers cost twice as much as an Apple TV?

00:26:54 ◼   ► Yeah, because aren't they still like 40 or 50 bucks each?

00:26:57 ◼   ► I thought it was at least 50, but I'm not sure.

00:26:59 ◼   ► Their gaming story is still muddled as compared to the consoles, but time marches on.

00:27:05 ◼   ► Console controllers aren't cheap either, but overall you're definitely getting into console

00:27:10 ◼   ► price territory if you're planning on buying four controllers. But I think if that ends

00:27:15 ◼   ► up working out, like if we get cool multiplayer games, that could be really great. Like that

00:27:20 ◼   ► could be an awesome thing for the platform. If they cared, they'd make a first party controller,

00:27:23 ◼   ► but I dread them doing that based on the design of their first party remote. Yeah, exactly.

00:27:29 ◼   ► But yeah, that was tvOS, and I mean, I think it looks good. We really should have Joe Steele

00:27:34 ◼   ► Elon or something like that to see if he's happy. But to me it looked good. But we'll

00:27:40 ◼   ► see what happens. After tvOS was iOS 10. So when I said iOS I really meant OS 10. Which

00:27:48 ◼   ► isn't OS 10 anymore.

00:27:49 ◼   ► >> Yeah, I like the beginning they had Tim Cook come out and say we have four platforms

00:27:52 ◼   ► and listed them off and they didn't do the rename then. You know, like they, it was a

00:27:57 ◼   ► weird kind of, I don't know how they arranged the presentation if that was an intentional

00:28:00 ◼   ► or they just realized, oh, at this point,

00:28:02 ◼   ► we can't tell them it's Mac OS.

00:28:04 ◼   ► So Craig got to come out and do his renaming slide

00:28:07 ◼   ► that he's done for the past few, like,

00:28:08 ◼   ► picking place names in California.

00:28:10 ◼   ► Only this time it was about changing it to lowercase m

00:28:12 ◼   ► ackos, Casey's favorite name.

00:28:16 ◼   ► Yeah, that was fine.

00:28:17 ◼   ► We expected it.

00:28:18 ◼   ► What did they talk about?

00:28:19 ◼   ► Well, I will say, though, I did kind of expect

00:28:21 ◼   ► them to just go with Mac OS 12.

00:28:23 ◼   ► I didn't expect the California names to continue.

00:28:25 ◼   ► Oh, no, I totally expected that.

00:28:26 ◼   ► Because it's so many places in California.

00:28:28 ◼   ► It's such a great branding.

00:28:29 ◼   ► 'cause they ran out of cats.

00:28:30 ◼   ► Cats were a good branding too, but they ran out,

00:28:32 ◼   ► but they won't run out of place names in California.

00:28:34 ◼   ► And I think the place names are better than years

00:28:37 ◼   ► and they're better than numbers.

00:28:37 ◼   ► By the way, the version is 1012.

00:28:39 ◼   ► So not that it matters anymore, but.

00:28:41 ◼   ► - And also Sierra is a way better name

00:28:44 ◼   ► than freaking El Capitan, which I still hate.

00:28:46 ◼   ► - Well, that time is over now.

00:28:48 ◼   ► - Yep, thank goodness.

00:28:49 ◼   ► - Sierra is a good name.

00:28:50 ◼   ► - So in macOS Sierra, there is Siri,

00:28:55 ◼   ► which looked very powerful.

00:28:58 ◼   ► And toward the end of the Siri demo,

00:29:00 ◼   ► it appeared as though it was doing

00:29:02 ◼   ► a very Google Photos style,

00:29:04 ◼   ► like show me the files that involve,

00:29:08 ◼   ► I don't know, I'm trying to think of a good example,

00:29:09 ◼   ► whatever example they use,

00:29:10 ◼   ► but show me the files about the party I'm throwing.

00:29:13 ◼   ► No, show me the ones I worked on with Aaron,

00:29:15 ◼   ► or something along those lines

00:29:16 ◼   ► where you're refining a search query,

00:29:19 ◼   ► but being fairly abstract,

00:29:21 ◼   ► well, and it's kind of abstract, right?

00:29:22 ◼   ► Show me the files about the party we're planning,

00:29:24 ◼   ► or something along those lines,

00:29:25 ◼   ► and it was able to piece together what that meant.

00:29:27 ◼   ► know the ones that I worked on with Aaron

00:29:29 ◼   ► and then bring down a shorter list.

00:29:31 ◼   ► I didn't like that it was very goofy

00:29:35 ◼   ► in the initial response.

00:29:36 ◼   ► Oh god, I think I-- - Yeah, I was trying

00:29:37 ◼   ► to be funny and be like, here's your files,

00:29:39 ◼   ► you're a master filer, I love the way you work.

00:29:41 ◼   ► - Yeah, the whole Siri being what it thinks

00:29:45 ◼   ► is funny and clever, I think that time is over.

00:29:48 ◼   ► I think we need to drop that.

00:29:49 ◼   ► - Oh, there's a place for that,

00:29:50 ◼   ► but it's not when you're in the middle

00:29:51 ◼   ► of an interaction and narrowing searches.

00:29:53 ◼   ► The fact that everything was in notification center

00:29:55 ◼   ► is weird and they have another mechanism for saved searches. And speaking of the photo

00:29:59 ◼   ► stuff, a lot of the features that we're going to talk about in the context of iOS, I think

00:30:02 ◼   ► it's pretty clear now that they're also available on the Mac. Like the photos and the deep learning

00:30:06 ◼   ► and the blah, blah, blah. A lot of those like, oh, and also on photos on the Mac, which is

00:30:10 ◼   ► great. Like, but they just didn't demo it in the context of the Mac. You know, back

00:30:13 ◼   ► in the days for iOS, all of these features would have been demoed like here's, you know,

00:30:17 ◼   ► face detection, for example, and it was shown in iPhoto. It was shown on the Mac in iPhoto.

00:30:21 ◼   ► All the stuff here with face detection and stuff, I assume is all, it better all be available

00:30:25 ◼   ► on the Mac, but they didn't demo it in that context.

00:30:27 ◼   ► So surely Siri would fit in with that.

00:30:29 ◼   ► But really, it seemed like the new impressive features of Siri

00:30:33 ◼   ► were mostly reserved to be shown in connection with iOS.

00:30:36 ◼   ► I'm assuming some of them are on the Mac.

00:30:38 ◼   ► But the fact that Siri exists on the Mac is good.

00:30:40 ◼   ► The UI and having stuff in Notification Center,

00:30:43 ◼   ► maybe not so good.

00:30:44 ◼   ► And my hope unification of Spotlight and Siri

00:30:46 ◼   ► doesn't seem to be in the cards.

00:30:48 ◼   ► They still seem to be separate things, which seems silly to me.

00:30:51 ◼   ► - Yeah, and I do kind of, it kind of bothers me

00:30:54 ◼   ► how Notification Center is kind of like the junk drawer

00:30:57 ◼   ► on OS X of where they shove new features

00:31:00 ◼   ► that most of which come from iOS.

00:31:03 ◼   ► And the way they do that is just by having this

00:31:06 ◼   ► iOS-like drawer on the side.

00:31:09 ◼   ► - It's like an iOS simulator that's hiding off

00:31:11 ◼   ► the right end of your screen in this all-skinny mode.

00:31:13 ◼   ► - Like, I do wish there was a little bit,

00:31:15 ◼   ► maybe more native-seeming or more integrated

00:31:20 ◼   ► integration of these features, but I guess that'll work itself out over time as they

00:31:26 ◼   ► work through these designs and as they see how these features are used. But yeah, overall

00:31:30 ◼   ► it looks pretty cool. I do think though, I will go back and say, I think the room for

00:31:36 ◼   ► Siri to have any kind of personality or wit, I think that's over because that gets old.

00:31:42 ◼   ► First of all, it doesn't translate well to a lot of different cultures and people.

00:31:44 ◼   ► You want to have that wit when you're conversing with it in a funny way. Not when you've started

00:31:50 ◼   ► doing a task. I think it gets old after like five seconds and then once you're past that

00:31:55 ◼   ► point like you don't want to hear, you don't want your computer to be witty like when you

00:31:59 ◼   ► type in commands in the command line do you get witty responses from Bash? No. Sometimes.

00:32:05 ◼   ► I think I like it occasionally but the problem is there's no way to tell when I'm going to

00:32:11 ◼   ► receive it and think oh that's really cute and when I'm going to see your filing is styling

00:32:16 ◼   ► Like, come on, really?

00:32:18 ◼   ► - They don't have the personalization stuff down.

00:32:20 ◼   ► Like, the whole thing we were talking about with Google

00:32:22 ◼   ► is like, it should learn my preferences.

00:32:24 ◼   ► If you love the thing to be funny,

00:32:25 ◼   ► for those people, it should be funny.

00:32:27 ◼   ► For the people who don't like it to be funny,

00:32:28 ◼   ► it should learn that it doesn't love them.

00:32:30 ◼   ► You know, that is not even in the cards

00:32:31 ◼   ► in terms of personalized interaction with Syria,

00:32:35 ◼   ► that it will learn from what you do

00:32:37 ◼   ► and how you interact with it,

00:32:38 ◼   ► what it is you like and don't like.

00:32:39 ◼   ► And they need to get on that.

00:32:41 ◼   ► - It also, like, it's kind of no good if it's being funny

00:32:43 ◼   ► and also not doing what you wanted.

00:32:45 ◼   ► - Yeah, that's the worst.

00:32:46 ◼   ► then you really hate it, you're like,

00:32:47 ◼   ► why are you being funny?

00:32:48 ◼   ► You just failed at what I asked you to do.

00:32:50 ◼   ► So it doesn't, in practice--

00:32:53 ◼   ► - Here are some websites I found for why are you being funny.

00:32:55 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:32:56 ◼   ► - Exactly, I can search the web for that if you'd like.

00:32:58 ◼   ► - Yeah, seriously.

00:32:59 ◼   ► - Yeah, it has to, I just think the chances of that

00:33:02 ◼   ► not being annoying are so low

00:33:06 ◼   ► that they should just not do it.

00:33:07 ◼   ► - That's fair.

00:33:08 ◼   ► - We've got the tabs in Windows, or Windows in Tabs.

00:33:10 ◼   ► - Oh no, we forgot a bunch of things, actually.

00:33:12 ◼   ► So going back, the unlocking the Mac

00:33:15 ◼   ► with watch proximity, really dig it in principle.

00:33:18 ◼   ► - Or touch ID on the keyboard of your Mac, just saying.

00:33:20 ◼   ► - Yeah, maybe, you never know.

00:33:21 ◼   ► I really dig the proximity thing.

00:33:23 ◼   ► What I wanna see though is how is corporate IT

00:33:25 ◼   ► gonna like that sort of thing.

00:33:27 ◼   ► I suspect that anyone who has a job

00:33:29 ◼   ► that has more than just a few people at it

00:33:32 ◼   ► will probably have the kibosh put on that immediately,

00:33:34 ◼   ► or kibosh, however you pronounce it, skateboard.

00:33:37 ◼   ► Yeah, I got a lot of flack about that.

00:33:38 ◼   ► - Honest question, do companies that have

00:33:40 ◼   ► that kind of strict security requirement often use Macs?

00:33:43 ◼   ► - Oh yeah, I mean, so my company issued me

00:33:45 ◼   ► a 15-inch MacBook Pro and issues a lot of developers

00:33:48 ◼   ► 15-inch MacBook Pros, and the VPN software we use,

00:33:51 ◼   ► which is Check Point VPN, also includes

00:33:54 ◼   ► an on-device firewall that prevents all sorts of crap,

00:33:58 ◼   ► like AirDrop.

00:33:59 ◼   ► Why is AirDrop filtered by my on-device VPN?

00:34:04 ◼   ► - It doesn't even have to be a secure company.

00:34:05 ◼   ► As soon as you have an IT department,

00:34:06 ◼   ► they wanna lock all that stuff down.

00:34:08 ◼   ► - Exactly, exactly. - It's annoying.

00:34:09 ◼   ► - So I don't run the VPN on this computer

00:34:12 ◼   ► unless I actually, like it's not even installed,

00:34:14 ◼   ► unless I need to do something for work involving the VPN

00:34:17 ◼   ► when I will, and then I will install it,

00:34:18 ◼   ► do my work and uninstall the VPN

00:34:20 ◼   ► because it's that much of a nightmare.

00:34:21 ◼   ► But anyway, I really like the idea of unlocking the watch

00:34:24 ◼   ► by proximity, really dig it.

00:34:25 ◼   ► Universal clipboard.

00:34:27 ◼   ► - I love this.

00:34:28 ◼   ► - This looks amazing.

00:34:30 ◼   ► - Universal clipboard looks like a good idea,

00:34:32 ◼   ► but as someone who uses the clipboard

00:34:35 ◼   ► to store lots of crap,

00:34:36 ◼   ► I saw it as a potential for data loss,

00:34:38 ◼   ► where until I get into the right mindset,

00:34:41 ◼   ► I don't have the idea that copying something on my phone will squish what's on my Mac.

00:34:46 ◼   ► Now I use a clipboard history thing so it won't really squish, it'll just push it down,

00:34:50 ◼   ► but it's still a little bit weird.

00:34:51 ◼   ► For regular people I think it'll be fine.

00:34:52 ◼   ► If it works well, historically continuity has been weird and flaky, and if this is built

00:34:56 ◼   ► on top of continuity I don't know, but many third party applications have proven that

00:35:00 ◼   ► this is something people want.

00:35:01 ◼   ► They want to be able to copy on their iOS device and paste on their Mac.

00:35:03 ◼   ► I find myself about to try to do it before I realize that I don't have any of those apps

00:35:08 ◼   ► installed and it won't work.

00:35:11 ◼   ► Like continuity, if this works, I will come to rely on it.

00:35:15 ◼   ► But if it's at all flaky, I will just

00:35:17 ◼   ► go back to pretending it doesn't exist.

00:35:20 ◼   ► Yeah, I completely agree with you.

00:35:21 ◼   ► I'm really looking forward to it, though.

00:35:23 ◼   ► It looked super impressive to me.

00:35:24 ◼   ► I still miss Payspot from way back in the day.

00:35:27 ◼   ► I'm hopeful that it works well.

00:35:29 ◼   ► A few things that Apple has done today

00:35:31 ◼   ► make me think they're really, really going all in on iCloud,

00:35:35 ◼   ► which is bold.

00:35:36 ◼   ► I mean, some things that are server side with Apple,

00:35:39 ◼   ► messages seem to work pretty well, generally speaking,

00:35:43 ◼   ► and the CloudKit-based things that Apple's done,

00:35:46 ◼   ► like Notes, for example, seem to be working well,

00:35:49 ◼   ► generally speaking, but I am very scared

00:35:53 ◼   ► about having this all rely on some sort of server-side,

00:35:56 ◼   ► I'm assuming, maybe not, maybe it's only local,

00:35:58 ◼   ► but I'm assuming some server-side thing on Apple's part.

00:36:01 ◼   ► - Well, now the one I'm thinking of,

00:36:02 ◼   ► and the one I tweeted about when I said I'm scared,

00:36:04 ◼   ► hold me, was the disk optimization.

00:36:07 ◼   ► Like, the idea is good that people run out

00:36:09 ◼   ► of disk space in their Mac.

00:36:10 ◼   ► They have no idea what the hell to do about it.

00:36:12 ◼   ► And Apple can sell you more space in their iCloud Drive

00:36:15 ◼   ► thing if they-- you know, they'll transparently take

00:36:17 ◼   ► your files and take the ones you haven't used in a while,

00:36:20 ◼   ► push them up to the cloud, and free up the space.

00:36:21 ◼   ► And it will all be transparent to you.

00:36:22 ◼   ► And you'll save a lot of room on your Mac.

00:36:24 ◼   ► And like, this is basically automated cleaning

00:36:26 ◼   ► that people don't do manually, which is all great.

00:36:29 ◼   ► Like, I'm all for this feature concept-wise

00:36:31 ◼   ► and implementation-wise, especially

00:36:32 ◼   ► if it's entirely transparent.

00:36:34 ◼   ► Or-- well, not entirely transparent.

00:36:35 ◼   ► You would still want some way for people to know,

00:36:38 ◼   ► did this file get pushed up to the cloud?

00:36:39 ◼   ► Lots of people have expressed the idea.

00:36:41 ◼   ► I want to be able to tell that it shouldn't push these files up

00:36:44 ◼   ► to the cloud.

00:36:46 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:36:46 ◼   ► There are lots of pitfalls in terms

00:36:48 ◼   ► of the implementation of this.

00:36:49 ◼   ► But the real one is, if it doesn't work reliably

00:36:53 ◼   ► all the time, or at least as reliably as Dropbox,

00:36:56 ◼   ► then it's just like a giant potential data loss button,

00:37:00 ◼   ► where you can turn this on, and Apple will selectively

00:37:03 ◼   ► hose certain ones of your files transparently in the background

00:37:06 ◼   ► without you knowing and with no way for you to fix it.

00:37:08 ◼   ► So this is a feature that I look at and say,

00:37:12 ◼   ► I'm never turning that on.

00:37:13 ◼   ► I'm terrified of this feature based

00:37:15 ◼   ► on my past history of using iCloud Drive

00:37:18 ◼   ► and the complete undebuggability of it

00:37:21 ◼   ► and the non-flexibility of it.

00:37:23 ◼   ► Whereas something like Dropbox is focused.

00:37:25 ◼   ► It's a single folder.

00:37:26 ◼   ► You can have selective sync.

00:37:27 ◼   ► There are badges on all the icons through an official API

00:37:30 ◼   ► that they support.

00:37:31 ◼   ► I know when things are synced.

00:37:32 ◼   ► when they're not, I can, I can, you know, I have a web interface to see like its version

00:37:36 ◼   ► of truth, like all the tools available to Dropbox, even though they're, you know, fidgety

00:37:41 ◼   ► or whatever, don't seem to be available in this and historically speaking, Apple has

00:37:45 ◼   ► not been as good and reliable as Dropbox and so things about this. So this feature really

00:37:49 ◼   ► scares me, especially since it looks so attractive to people who are novices and just like, oh,

00:37:53 ◼   ► yes, please take care of my storage for me. Yeah. If they turn that on and it just hoses

00:37:58 ◼   ► everything, that's going to be a bad experience.

00:38:00 ◼   ► How are you even going to recover someone from that?

00:38:02 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:38:04 ◼   ► Maybe I shouldn't be so pessimistic about this.

00:38:05 ◼   ► Implementation-wise, it seems like it's a good idea,

00:38:08 ◼   ► but there are so many places from user interface

00:38:11 ◼   ► to reliability to performance where it just

00:38:15 ◼   ► seems terrifying to me.

00:38:16 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:38:16 ◼   ► I mean, an interesting thought experiment, I think,

00:38:18 ◼   ► would be if Dropbox offered this exact same feature,

00:38:22 ◼   ► would you enable it?

00:38:23 ◼   ► Like OS wide, not just in its Dropbox folder.

00:38:25 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:38:26 ◼   ► Would you enable it?

00:38:26 ◼   ► I don't think I would enable it for Dropbox.

00:38:28 ◼   ► I don't think I would either.

00:38:29 ◼   ► And Dropbox, I trust way more than things

00:38:31 ◼   ► like iCloud Drive.

00:38:32 ◼   ► It seems like a good idea, but I think

00:38:34 ◼   ► there are better solutions to this problem, which

00:38:36 ◼   ► we'll get to in a little bit.

00:38:38 ◼   ► Yeah, the tabs and windows thing,

00:38:40 ◼   ► that seems like they're just scraping

00:38:41 ◼   ► the bottom of the barrel.

00:38:42 ◼   ► Like, oh, we added tabs to most things.

00:38:44 ◼   ► You know what?

00:38:44 ◼   ► We should just make this an official API

00:38:46 ◼   ► that you get for free if you use NS Document.

00:38:47 ◼   ► It's easy to implement, and you can just mix windows together

00:38:50 ◼   ► with tabs.

00:38:50 ◼   ► Lots of applications have tabs.

00:38:51 ◼   ► It's nice to have a unified interface.

00:38:53 ◼   ► It's a recognition that tabs are as common as buttons and sheets

00:38:58 ◼   ► and text input fields and combo boxes and all

00:39:00 ◼   ► the other controls they have.

00:39:02 ◼   ► Instead of having to roll your own tabs,

00:39:03 ◼   ► here's a standard control for not tabs,

00:39:07 ◼   ► as in the old style one where you'd switch your different--

00:39:10 ◼   ► what is it called, like the segmented control now?

00:39:12 ◼   ► It doesn't even look like tabs anymore.

00:39:13 ◼   ► But those used to actually look like tabs back in the day.

00:39:15 ◼   ► But web browsers have the, no, each tab

00:39:17 ◼   ► is actually the entire window.

00:39:18 ◼   ► And you can tear them out and combine them.

00:39:19 ◼   ► It's nice to see that be a system level feature.

00:39:22 ◼   ► They're kind of boring.

00:39:23 ◼   ► They look like Safari tabs.

00:39:24 ◼   ► And I'm not sure Safari tabs is the best implementation

00:39:26 ◼   ► of tabs.

00:39:26 ◼   ► but it's a nice idea.

00:39:28 ◼   ► - And I think you get it for free

00:39:29 ◼   ► if you're an NS document subclass,

00:39:32 ◼   ► something like that. - Yeah, I don't know

00:39:32 ◼   ► the details, but I think so.

00:39:33 ◼   ► I mean, I think that's great.

00:39:34 ◼   ► You know, as a user of OS X, I mean,

00:39:37 ◼   ► I'm not really a Mac developer,

00:39:38 ◼   ► but as a user of OS X, I think that's gonna be awesome.

00:39:41 ◼   ► - Yep, picture in picture,

00:39:43 ◼   ► not a problem I feel needs solving,

00:39:45 ◼   ► but not a bad thing. - Oh, no, I disagree.

00:39:46 ◼   ► I mean-- - Yeah?

00:39:47 ◼   ► - For people who use full screen,

00:39:48 ◼   ► it's totally a problem that needs solving,

00:39:50 ◼   ► 'cause full screen is like, I would like to be full screen,

00:39:51 ◼   ► that's how I work, I swipe on my pad from side to side,

00:39:54 ◼   ► but sometimes I also wanna keep my eye on the game.

00:39:56 ◼   ► I wish they had more than one picture in picture

00:39:57 ◼   ► so you could stack them up.

00:39:59 ◼   ► - Of course you would want more windows.

00:40:00 ◼   ► No, I mean like--

00:40:01 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:40:02 ◼   ► - That's right, you got a 5K iMac,

00:40:04 ◼   ► you can have four games,

00:40:05 ◼   ► like they should be able to like tile them,

00:40:06 ◼   ► the four football games from the ESPN app.

00:40:09 ◼   ► Yeah, yeah, right?

00:40:10 ◼   ► - I mean like I think it would be,

00:40:12 ◼   ► it'll be nice because like so often

00:40:14 ◼   ► I want to have like a video going from,

00:40:17 ◼   ► usually it's YouTube, or you know,

00:40:19 ◼   ► occasionally it's Vimeo, but usually it's YouTube.

00:40:21 ◼   ► So I'll have this video going and like I'll want to

00:40:23 ◼   ► move it to the side of the screen

00:40:25 ◼   ► so I can do something else at the same time

00:40:26 ◼   ► or so I can watch from another window.

00:40:28 ◼   ► And you have to have the, you know,

00:40:30 ◼   ► if you wanna do that now with before Picture-in-Picture

00:40:32 ◼   ► on the Mac, you have to have the entire browser Chrome

00:40:35 ◼   ► around that showing somewhere and kind of move the window

00:40:38 ◼   ► in such a way that you like, you know,

00:40:40 ◼   ► you move half of it off screen.

00:40:41 ◼   ► It's kind of clunky now, so this will be nice for that too.

00:40:45 ◼   ► - Yeah, I didn't think about the full screen stuff.

00:40:47 ◼   ► That's a very good point.

00:40:48 ◼   ► Well, let's see, what else did they do?

00:40:52 ◼   ► The messages improvements, which we'll talk about

00:40:53 ◼   ► minute comes to the Mac as well. I don't know, that's most--oh, Apple Pay for the web, which

00:41:00 ◼   ► is kind of exciting. And I don't know, I think that was most everything. The big, like, flagship

00:41:06 ◼   ► feature seemed to be Siri, which is similarly solving a problem I don't think I have. But

00:41:10 ◼   ► that really deep contextual search does sound pretty interesting, and I am curious to try

00:41:15 ◼   ► that.

00:41:16 ◼   ► >> So even though they didn't announce it at this segment, this is the part where we

00:41:19 ◼   ► we should talk about the new file system.

00:41:21 ◼   ► Because it is only available on the Mac right now.

00:41:26 ◼   ► It was not announced in the keynote.

00:41:27 ◼   ► I found out about it after walking outside of the keynote

00:41:30 ◼   ► when everybody else found the updated W2E sessions to show

00:41:33 ◼   ► the secret ones, and session 701 was the one about the new file

00:41:36 ◼   ► system, and then everyone found the developer documentation

00:41:39 ◼   ► online.

00:41:40 ◼   ► Didn't even get, as far as I'm aware,

00:41:42 ◼   ► a note in one of the little word clouds.

00:41:44 ◼   ► And that's mostly because even though there's

00:41:47 ◼   ► going to be sessions on this, and there's

00:41:48 ◼   ► technical documentation, and it was announced

00:41:50 ◼   ► in the State of the Union, this is not

00:41:52 ◼   ► a feature of any of the operating systems betas

00:41:55 ◼   ► that they shipped, and it's not going

00:41:56 ◼   ► to be a feature of any of the operating systems

00:41:58 ◼   ► that they ship in final, except in experimental form.

00:42:01 ◼   ► The new file system will be for 2017, because as we all know,

00:42:05 ◼   ► 2017 is the year of the file system.

00:42:07 ◼   ► But they announced it now, and they're

00:42:10 ◼   ► getting people working on it now.

00:42:11 ◼   ► What the hell is the name of it?

00:42:13 ◼   ► It's got a terrible name.

00:42:14 ◼   ► APFS, right?

00:42:14 ◼   ► It's called APFS.

00:42:16 ◼   ► The A stands for Apple, the P stands for Poll?

00:42:19 ◼   ► - I guess. - I don't know.

00:42:21 ◼   ► - P-U-L-L? - I don't know.

00:42:22 ◼   ► - No, it's like Apple, like A.

00:42:24 ◼   ► - It's Apple. - It's your Apple file system

00:42:26 ◼   ► and it should be AFS, but AFS is Andrew File System,

00:42:28 ◼   ► and IFS is probably also, anyway, it's got a name.

00:42:31 ◼   ► It's called APFS.

00:42:33 ◼   ► It is only available on the Mac,

00:42:35 ◼   ► and you can do a limited number of things with it now.

00:42:37 ◼   ► - Well, so far.

00:42:38 ◼   ► It will be on all the platforms eventually.

00:42:40 ◼   ► - You can't boot off of it now.

00:42:42 ◼   ► It has all sorts of limitations,

00:42:43 ◼   ► all of which I assume are because it's not done yet, right?

00:42:45 ◼   ► And so this is how they're sort of testing the waters with it

00:42:48 ◼   ► and letting people play with it.

00:42:50 ◼   ► I mean, they're also kind of like saving people

00:42:52 ◼   ► from themselves here.

00:42:53 ◼   ► Like, it's not bootable, and you can't time machine with it

00:42:55 ◼   ► and stuff, because they really don't want you to be installing

00:42:58 ◼   ► a beta file system on your main drive

00:43:00 ◼   ► and with your only copy of your data.

00:43:02 ◼   ► And you know people would do that if they

00:43:04 ◼   ► didn't have these restrictions.

00:43:06 ◼   ► And it has a lot of interesting features, almost all the ones

00:43:10 ◼   ► I would expect it to have, more than I had hoped,

00:43:13 ◼   ► because I had heard things that made me think it wasn't

00:43:15 ◼   ► have too much. First it's flash only. >> Yeah.

00:43:17 ◼   ► >> Which we expected. And that's great because it means they can optimize it for that case.

00:43:22 ◼   ► It has cloning of files, which is, you would think it's just not just like hard links to

00:43:28 ◼   ► files but it's not because they're copy on writes. You can basically duplicate a file

00:43:31 ◼   ► more or less instantaneously and they will diverge slowly. Part of that is the same underlying

00:43:36 ◼   ► technology I'm assuming they're using for snapshots, which means you can take a point

00:43:39 ◼   ► in time snapshot of the entire file system. You can, I think you can clone an entire file

00:43:43 ◼   ► system, I would assume. You can revert to a snapshot, which they said is great for classrooms,

00:43:48 ◼   ► where they can just have the initial state and let the kids use it and revert. It's also

00:43:52 ◼   ► great for Apple stores. I'm sure they're all loving it, where they can, at the end of the

00:43:55 ◼   ► day, revert all the demo devices to their previous state. If you are a backup program,

00:44:00 ◼   ► having a point-in-time snapshot to work out, which is great, and the fact that it doesn't

00:44:03 ◼   ► work with Time Machine, it's because the new version of Time Machine is going to take advantage

00:44:06 ◼   ► of all these features and be a million times better than it used to be. It supports extended

00:44:10 ◼   ► attributes because it has to. And this--this Apple documentation, we'll put a link in the

00:44:14 ◼   ► show notes. It basically goes through like, here's why HFS+ sucks and not so many words.

00:44:18 ◼   ► And it goes through all the things like, oh, HFS+ could do things where your thing was

00:44:22 ◼   ► inconsistent on disk and has no atomic operations and things wouldn't be committed. So if something

00:44:27 ◼   ► happened at this point, you think it could get corrupted. They tried to be nice about

00:44:30 ◼   ► it but, yeah. And the session description for 7.01 is, we're going to tell you why this

00:44:34 ◼   ► file system is better than HFS+, which is shooting fish in a barrel but it's better.

00:44:39 ◼   ► directory sizing. You ever try to get the size of a big folder and it says calculating

00:44:43 ◼   ► and calculating? Like they have a way to do that? You know, atomic operations, limited

00:44:47 ◼   ► atomic operations. This is all great stuff. Being able to make containers and put multiple

00:44:52 ◼   ► volumes on the same container and having them all see that size. So like instead of partitioning,

00:44:56 ◼   ► say you have 100 gigs, you can put three volumes on 100 gigs and they all look like they're

00:45:00 ◼   ► 100 gigs. They're not. There's only 100 gigs of space and they're going to fight for it.

00:45:03 ◼   ► But there's no like, let me divide the 100 gig partition up into, you know, 50/50 or

00:45:07 ◼   ► 33, 33, 33, it's just that's not how this file system works.

00:45:12 ◼   ► They could all share the space,

00:45:13 ◼   ► and then they will slowly accumulate into the space.

00:45:15 ◼   ► It supports RAID 1.0 and just concatenated volumes,

00:45:19 ◼   ► and JBOD, where you just take a bunch of disks

00:45:22 ◼   ► and make one larger volume out of it.

00:45:25 ◼   ► The only real thing it's missing,

00:45:27 ◼   ► and I don't think it's something they can't add later,

00:45:29 ◼   ► I hope, is any facility for data integrity

00:45:32 ◼   ► at the file level to account for bit rot.

00:45:34 ◼   ► So say you have a bunch of important files

00:45:35 ◼   ► like your family photos, and you keep them around,

00:45:39 ◼   ► and you keep copying them from disk to disk,

00:45:40 ◼   ► how do you know that bit flip errors

00:45:42 ◼   ► aren't slowly corrupting your files?

00:45:43 ◼   ► The answer is, for now, at the file system level,

00:45:45 ◼   ► you still don't, but this seems like

00:45:47 ◼   ► a thoroughly modern file system,

00:45:49 ◼   ► and the fact that that feature doesn't exist now,

00:45:52 ◼   ► I don't mind too much, because all the other things

00:45:54 ◼   ► are doing it, it's like, they're saying all the right things.

00:45:58 ◼   ► Everything in this documentation says,

00:46:00 ◼   ► modern, sleek file system that's going to enable

00:46:02 ◼   ► UI features that are better, it'll make time machine better,

00:46:05 ◼   ► We'll make backup apps better.

00:46:06 ◼   ► We'll make it easier to roll back to known good states.

00:46:09 ◼   ► So many nice, friendly features can be built

00:46:11 ◼   ► on top of this file system.

00:46:12 ◼   ► This is what the world has been waiting

00:46:14 ◼   ► for for a really long time.

00:46:16 ◼   ► Still upset there's no data integrity,

00:46:18 ◼   ► but because it's so modern, I see no reason

00:46:21 ◼   ► they can't add that later for systems that can support

00:46:23 ◼   ► the CPU overhead that that's going to add.

00:46:25 ◼   ► - So, as far as you can tell, so far so good.

00:46:28 ◼   ► Two thumbs up?

00:46:28 ◼   ► - Yes, no, I like it, I'm happy.

00:46:30 ◼   ► The name is stupid.

00:46:32 ◼   ► But you know.

00:46:32 ◼   ► (laughing)

00:46:33 ◼   ► The name is stupid and no data integrity, which is, again, it's not a small thing.

00:46:37 ◼   ► Like when I talk about it in the past, data integrity is like one of the biggest reasons

00:46:39 ◼   ► I want a new file system.

00:46:40 ◼   ► But all the other reasons are still super important and it's just so great to see Apple

00:46:46 ◼   ► finally moving on.

00:46:47 ◼   ► And like Bargo said, this is all platforms, from the watch all the way up to the Mac Pro

00:46:51 ◼   ► that they never update.

00:46:53 ◼   ► It's the whole line.

00:46:54 ◼   ► They made a file system for the future that spans their entire product line, which is

00:46:59 ◼   ► exactly what you could hope for.

00:47:00 ◼   ► And like this is just the first version.

00:47:02 ◼   ► Look at all the crap they added to HFS Plus.

00:47:04 ◼   ► And in their documentation, like, we don't have,

00:47:07 ◼   ► on HFS Plus, extended attributes were tacked on.

00:47:09 ◼   ► Wasn't that crappy?

00:47:10 ◼   ► Well, here it's not tacked on.

00:47:11 ◼   ► We thought of it from the beginning.

00:47:12 ◼   ► It's a super important feature.

00:47:13 ◼   ► Good job, guys.

00:47:14 ◼   ► So I am excited, I am happy, I am optimistic.

00:47:18 ◼   ► I am ready for 2017.

00:47:20 ◼   ► - Real time follow up, by the way.

00:47:21 ◼   ► APFS is optimized for Flash/SSD storage

00:47:24 ◼   ► and can be used with traditional hard disk drives.

00:47:27 ◼   ► - Oh, that's interesting.

00:47:29 ◼   ► I'm kind of surprised that they can even do that.

00:47:31 ◼   ► - Yeah, they just did that because you can make,

00:47:32 ◼   ► like, in the current command line tools,

00:47:34 ◼   ► you can make, like, an image, like a volume container image,

00:47:38 ◼   ► like a disk image of it.

00:47:39 ◼   ► I'm assuming people will screw with it.

00:47:41 ◼   ► Oh, and one thing we didn't touch on is,

00:47:42 ◼   ► one of the current limitations is case sensitive only.

00:47:45 ◼   ► I'm not quite sure what they'll do there,

00:47:46 ◼   ► because a lot of the Unicode normalization

00:47:48 ◼   ► and case folding comparison crap in HFS+

00:47:51 ◼   ► is a reason a lot of people hate it,

00:47:53 ◼   ► because it's complicated and doesn't do what people expect,

00:47:58 ◼   ► and it's kind of, it's not non-deterministic,

00:47:59 ◼   ► but it's complicated to know what exactly it's gonna do

00:48:02 ◼   ► in terms of, this is like when you name files.

00:48:04 ◼   ► What is the file name?

00:48:06 ◼   ► And HFS+ has really complicated rules

00:48:08 ◼   ► about what a file name is, case sensitive or insensitive.

00:48:11 ◼   ► This is case sensitive only for now.

00:48:13 ◼   ► I'm assuming they will implement case insensitivity,

00:48:16 ◼   ► but it's still, I think, an open question.

00:48:17 ◼   ► Will they implement case insensitivity

00:48:19 ◼   ► in the same weird way that it's implemented in HFS+?

00:48:21 ◼   ► And by the way, HFS+ on iOS has always been case sensitive?

00:48:25 ◼   ► - I think so, probably for performance

00:48:27 ◼   ► and simplicity reasons.

00:48:29 ◼   ► Yeah, like, I mean, no one sees the file system on the phone,

00:48:31 ◼   ► so it's fine.

00:48:32 ◼   ► But case sensitive is simpler to implement.

00:48:34 ◼   ► And if they do away with the file name normalization stuff--

00:48:37 ◼   ► we'll put some show note links for Unicode normalization,

00:48:39 ◼   ► because we don't have time to explain it now.

00:48:41 ◼   ► But if they either do away with that

00:48:42 ◼   ► and just make it a giant bag of bytes

00:48:44 ◼   ► and leave it up to the OS, that would

00:48:45 ◼   ► be one easy enough solution.

00:48:47 ◼   ► Or if they come up with a more streamlined, modern way

00:48:51 ◼   ► to do their case folding for the case insensitive things

00:48:53 ◼   ► and handle that.

00:48:54 ◼   ► I don't know.

00:48:55 ◼   ► I'm not quite sure what they'll do.

00:48:56 ◼   ► But a lot of the scary limitations

00:48:57 ◼   ► just because this isn't done yet, and this is only sort of a toy for people to play with

00:49:02 ◼   ► on the Mac, but it will be rolling out everywhere next year.

00:49:05 ◼   ► So I have one other important question. So I do not have a ticket to WVDC. I'm going

00:49:10 ◼   ► to layers. I was sitting in my hotel room streaming both the keynote and the State of

00:49:14 ◼   ► the Union with a handful of other people, and for the State of the Union it happened

00:49:17 ◼   ► that almost everyone in the room was a developer. And for the State of the Union they said,

00:49:22 ◼   ► "Okay, it's time to talk about the new file system." And literally everyone in the room,

00:49:26 ◼   ► which there were like six of us, all of them verbally at the same moment said, "Ding!"

00:49:31 ◼   ► As I'm sitting there watching the talk, people are on Twitter saying, "Oh my God, there was

00:49:36 ◼   ► a ding." And I thought, "No, that's funny."

00:49:38 ◼   ► They heard you in your room.

00:49:40 ◼   ► Right, and I thought, "That's funny, haha." And then I realized, "No, no, no, these people

00:49:43 ◼   ► are not being funny. There was a ding." Is that true? Was there a ding in the room?

00:49:50 ◼   ► There was a ding in the room.

00:49:52 ◼   ► Did it come from the PA?

00:49:53 ◼   ► No.

00:49:54 ◼   ► interesting but there was a ding there was a ding in the room

00:49:59 ◼   ► next up let's talk about file systems

00:50:03 ◼   ► all right

00:50:05 ◼   ► that's magnificent and i am very impressed

00:50:09 ◼   ► so i just want to put that out there that someone had

00:50:12 ◼   ► the wherewithal to either simulate or bring an actual bell with which to ding

00:50:19 ◼   ► when when it was time to talk about the file systems did the person on stage

00:50:22 ◼   ► here could you tell that that's gonna be cut out of the video first of all and

00:50:26 ◼   ► second of all it's a big place I think the only people who heard it were the

00:50:29 ◼   ► people who were in the proximity of the day I don't know some people on Twitter

00:50:32 ◼   ► were saying they were like second row or something like well let's put it this

00:50:36 ◼   ► way the reaction in the room shows that some people knew what the thing was

00:50:39 ◼   ► about other people didn't know and didn't care well but that's fair but did

00:50:43 ◼   ► you notice to the person the person speaking at the time did they even

00:50:46 ◼   ► notice that I don't think so anyway I just want to say for the record I did

00:50:51 ◼   ► not make the ding. Well, God knows I didn't because I was in the room. Alright, well somebody

00:50:55 ◼   ► spent $8 very well to make that ding. Approximately. Yeah, we assumed. I'm just saying I would

00:51:00 ◼   ► never interrupt or disrupt a live presentation by Apple in that way. No, of course not, you

00:51:05 ◼   ► wouldn't. I would not do that. Fair enough. Anything else on macOS? Oh, we forgot, one

00:51:12 ◼   ► more on macOS. It doesn't support my Mac? Yeah! That's right, I completely forgot! John

00:51:16 ◼   ► has to get a new Mac Pro to run the new file system. It's amazing. So they stopped supporting

00:51:20 ◼   ► my Mac and I wondered why and asked Marco and he came up with what I think is the actual

00:51:24 ◼   ► answer pretty much on the spot. Why won't they support the 2008 Mac Pro which is my

00:51:28 ◼   ► model? They support the 2009 Mac Pro. They're 64-bit x86 machines. They're plenty fast.

00:51:32 ◼   ► It's not like my machine is too slow to run Mac OS Sierra. What's the deal? Why is my

00:51:36 ◼   ► Mac not supported? And the answer Marco came up with and then until I hear someone say

00:51:41 ◼   ► otherwise sounds like the answer is my CPU doesn't have the Intel like decryption focused

00:51:47 ◼   ► instructions, I forget what they're called,

00:51:49 ◼   ► you said AVX or something?

00:51:50 ◼   ► - I forgot, it's like the hardware AES acceleration

00:51:55 ◼   ► and stuff like that, like the Intel added instructions

00:51:56 ◼   ► to the CPUs somewhere around that time,

00:51:59 ◼   ► and I think you fall on the wrong side of that boundary.

00:52:01 ◼   ► - Right, and so a lot of the ARM system on the chips

00:52:03 ◼   ► have these instructions, the modern x86 CPUs

00:52:07 ◼   ► have these instructions.

00:52:09 ◼   ► Encryption, by the way, we didn't mention this

00:52:10 ◼   ► for the new Apple file system, encryption is built in,

00:52:13 ◼   ► both full volume encryption and also profile encryption,

00:52:17 ◼   ► like iOS users, but this is built into the file system

00:52:19 ◼   ► instead of built on top of it.

00:52:20 ◼   ► You can totally tell this is a file system made

00:52:22 ◼   ► for Apple's devices, because these are exactly

00:52:23 ◼   ► the features they need that they previously had to implement

00:52:25 ◼   ► on top of the file system.

00:52:26 ◼   ► Now they're built into it.

00:52:27 ◼   ► You can run it without encryption.

00:52:29 ◼   ► It's not like it requires encryption,

00:52:30 ◼   ► but for the sake of simplicity of implementation,

00:52:32 ◼   ► they basically said, we're not going

00:52:35 ◼   ► to put conditional code and have a code path that doesn't use--

00:52:40 ◼   ► we're not going to disable encryption on the 2008 Macs,

00:52:42 ◼   ► and we're not going to say, if you do the encryption,

00:52:44 ◼   ► we'll do a second code path that doesn't use those instructions.

00:52:46 ◼   ► They said fine, just not support it.

00:52:47 ◼   ► I mean, it's an eight-year-old computer at this point.

00:52:49 ◼   ► It's totally understandable.

00:52:50 ◼   ► Luckily, I have a 2009 Mac Pro at work.

00:52:53 ◼   ► So I'll be OK there, and I'll be able to use it.

00:52:54 ◼   ► But yeah, they stopped supporting my Mac

00:52:57 ◼   ► with the current version of the Mac operating system.

00:52:59 ◼   ► So my 2008 Mac Pro was able to run every version of Mac OS X

00:53:05 ◼   ► and OS X, more or less.

00:53:07 ◼   ► But not-- well, I guess not every version, because 10.0

00:53:09 ◼   ► didn't have an x86 version.

00:53:10 ◼   ► Yeah, I don't think you could run any of them until, what,

00:53:12 ◼   ► 10.4?

00:53:12 ◼   ► Yeah, until the x86 transition.

00:53:15 ◼   ► Anyway, whole point is my Mac is not supported,

00:53:17 ◼   ► and they did not release a new Mac for me to buy,

00:53:19 ◼   ► so we'll keep watching on that front.

00:53:22 ◼   ► - Oh, God, I don't even want to think about that.

00:53:24 ◼   ► - So what are you gonna do, like, you know,

00:53:26 ◼   ► this fall when this becomes the new version,

00:53:28 ◼   ► are you just never gonna have the new version of OS X?

00:53:30 ◼   ► - I'm gonna install it at work,

00:53:31 ◼   ► and I'm not gonna install it at home,

00:53:33 ◼   ► and we'll see how long that remains tenable.

00:53:35 ◼   ► - Wow.

00:53:36 ◼   ► - I mean, by that point, they could've announced

00:53:37 ◼   ► New Mac Pro that I'd order, I don't know,

00:53:39 ◼   ► but it's not an issue that I have to deal with

00:53:42 ◼   ► for a couple months yet.

00:53:43 ◼   ► - I love that this is like the roller coaster

00:53:47 ◼   ► of Syracuse keynotes.

00:53:49 ◼   ► It's like you have amazing file system news.

00:53:53 ◼   ► No one expected a new file system to ever happen.

00:53:56 ◼   ► Just like when Swift came out,

00:53:57 ◼   ► it's like Swift was like-- - I did.

00:53:59 ◼   ► - Okay, yeah, but no one else.

00:54:00 ◼   ► So you've been waiting for this for forever.

00:54:02 ◼   ► It finally happened, but also--

00:54:05 ◼   ► - I'm gonna stop supporting my Mac.

00:54:06 ◼   ► - Also they're going to force you

00:54:07 ◼   ► to finally upgrade your Mac Pro.

00:54:09 ◼   ► - But that's not bad news.

00:54:11 ◼   ► That's good news.

00:54:12 ◼   ► All they gotta do is make a new Mac.

00:54:13 ◼   ► Like that's fine.

00:54:14 ◼   ► Like there, again, I don't think there's, it's a perfectly valid decision to not support

00:54:17 ◼   ► an eight year old computer.

00:54:19 ◼   ► Like, oh totally.

00:54:20 ◼   ► Like it's fine.

00:54:21 ◼   ► I'm, I'm, I'm not upset about that at all.

00:54:24 ◼   ► It will be handled.

00:54:25 ◼   ► No, I mean it's kind of, it's kind of amazing it made it this far.

00:54:28 ◼   ► Yeah.

00:54:29 ◼   ► So leaving aside hardware gripes, what's the next bit of low hanging fruit?

00:54:35 ◼   ► The file system has been conquered, Copeland's been conquered, or preventing Copeland 2010

00:54:39 ◼   ► with Swift has been conquered.

00:54:41 ◼   ► the next bit of low hanging fruit that you're really, really waiting for?

00:54:44 ◼   ► >> I could fix the finder. I mean.

00:54:45 ◼   ► >> Then I could fix the finder.

00:54:47 ◼   ► >> Oh, no. Don't get him started.

00:54:49 ◼   ► >> Come on.

00:54:50 ◼   ► >> You don't know what you're saying.

00:54:51 ◼   ► >> The finder is the one I kind of gave up on because it becomes less and less irrelevant

00:54:55 ◼   ► to fix it. And, you know, so if they can make it irrelevant, it's fine. There are still

00:55:00 ◼   ► many things that I wish they could fix about it. That's a whole other show. We can talk

00:55:03 ◼   ► about it some other time. That's, I mean, that's the big one from way back when. But

00:55:07 ◼   ► I'm forced to come up with an entirely new list.

00:55:10 ◼   ► Like I could still complain about services forever.

00:55:14 ◼   ► Like don't worry, I will not run out of things to complain about.

00:55:16 ◼   ► It'll be fine.

00:55:17 ◼   ► Never.

00:55:18 ◼   ► I know you won't run out of things to complain about, but I am curious to hear what your

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00:57:14 ◼   ► iOS 10.

00:57:17 ◼   ► It's a thing.

00:57:19 ◼   ► It's iOSX, Casey.

00:57:20 ◼   ► Oh my bad.

00:57:21 ◼   ► iOSX.

00:57:22 ◼   ► That's right.

00:57:23 ◼   ► it looks good, it actually looks different.

00:57:27 ◼   ► You talked about this earlier.

00:57:29 ◼   ► - Yeah, they've refreshed the design like a half step.

00:57:33 ◼   ► - Yeah, that's well put.

00:57:33 ◼   ► - It's not like a total redesign of the system,

00:57:35 ◼   ► but it's like a .5 of the iOS 7 style design, which I like.

00:57:40 ◼   ► They have made many of the fonts

00:57:43 ◼   ► a little bit heavier weight.

00:57:44 ◼   ► They've introduced a new super heavy bold for San Francisco

00:57:48 ◼   ► that's in use in the News app and in Music

00:57:51 ◼   ► to really massively draw attention to headlines,

00:57:53 ◼   ► which I don't think I like, but we'll see in use.

00:57:56 ◼   ► But overall, all around the system,

00:57:59 ◼   ► there's little improvements to the text

00:58:01 ◼   ► to make it a little bit thicker, a little bit heavier,

00:58:02 ◼   ► a little bit more bold, which makes it easier to read

00:58:04 ◼   ► for a lot of people.

00:58:05 ◼   ► Moving on from text, though, the big change

00:58:07 ◼   ► is they've introduced buttons that look like buttons,

00:58:10 ◼   ► which is awesome.

00:58:11 ◼   ► - And windows that look like windows,

00:58:13 ◼   ► like the little widgets.

00:58:14 ◼   ► - Yeah, everything's now like these little rounded

00:58:15 ◼   ► window-like things, which I like this new style a lot.

00:58:20 ◼   ► I like this design, I like that Apple's moving it forward.

00:58:23 ◼   ► I think this will prove to be more usable

00:58:25 ◼   ► than like the pure iOS 7 looks,

00:58:27 ◼   ► just because things are starting to have shapes again,

00:58:30 ◼   ► and text is starting to become more legible,

00:58:32 ◼   ► and this is all good stuff.

00:58:33 ◼   ► So I think, you know, having not actually used the beta yet,

00:58:37 ◼   ► you know, we'll see how this is in practice,

00:58:39 ◼   ► but tentatively, I give the design improvements

00:58:42 ◼   ► whatever thumbs up that I can give.

00:58:44 ◼   ► - Yeah, the lock screen changes in particular,

00:58:46 ◼   ► like it's Apple finally, not giving up on,

00:58:49 ◼   ► but thinking better of, like their attempt,

00:58:51 ◼   ► they always wanted to say,

00:58:52 ◼   ► can have an arbitrary image and we will display text on top of it in a minimal way that remains

00:58:56 ◼   ► readable. And it's really hard to do that without deciding, having an algorithm kind

00:59:00 ◼   ► of like their iTunes album or thing, like should we darken the background and use light

00:59:03 ◼   ► text? Should we lighten the background and use dark text? And what about, they love stuff

00:59:07 ◼   ► showing through and like if it was all about usability you would say, use an opaque light

00:59:11 ◼   ► background with dark text on top of it that's easy to read. Like, but they don't want to

00:59:14 ◼   ► do that. So they're creeping up on it. So they said, no, we won't, we're not even trying

00:59:17 ◼   ► to mess with your background anymore. We're going to put these white essentially windows

00:59:19 ◼   ► on top of it. And they're not opaque white. You can still see stuff through them with

00:59:23 ◼   ► the whole vibrancy, but it's just more readable. It's clear what the units are. It's clear

00:59:30 ◼   ► where they begin and end. The text on them is easier to read because it is dark text

00:59:33 ◼   ► on a light background always. It doesn't depend on the thing that's behind it. And those are

00:59:38 ◼   ► all good decisions, especially if they're going to add functionality to that screen,

00:59:41 ◼   ► which they are, to make it a more straightforward UI and to give up on the dream of it being

00:59:47 ◼   ► like this beautiful text that is laced onto your image, like minimally as if it's just

00:59:52 ◼   ► been sprinkled there with stardust. And in practice, what that translates to is hard

00:59:57 ◼   ► to read, can't tell what the hell is going on.

00:59:59 ◼   ► >> Yeah. And the lock screen now has widgets on it, and they actually literally use the

01:00:02 ◼   ► word widgets, which I thought was a little surprising.

01:00:05 ◼   ► >> Yeah, it's interesting. What they basically did was they took what used to be your TodayView

01:00:11 ◼   ► widget or your Notification Center widget, you know, whatever you call those things,

01:00:14 ◼   ► and they're now kind of sticking those in more places,

01:00:16 ◼   ► which like, you know, I never thought it was worth Overcast

01:00:18 ◼   ► having a Today View widget because--

01:00:21 ◼   ► - 'Cause no one's going into their Today View

01:00:22 ◼   ► to find out what's up with Overcast today.

01:00:24 ◼   ► - Right, exactly, like it's not, it doesn't seem

01:00:25 ◼   ► like it was that kind of app, and I personally never

01:00:28 ◼   ► use Today Widgets 'cause I don't look at my Today View.

01:00:32 ◼   ► So, you know, but now they're putting those now

01:00:34 ◼   ► on the lock screen, they're putting those on 3D Touch

01:00:37 ◼   ► when you preview an app, so now this is going to give

01:00:39 ◼   ► way more apps a big reason to have notification center

01:00:43 ◼   ► or to have these widgets.

01:00:44 ◼   ► Now it's no longer a notification center widget.

01:00:46 ◼   ► It's no longer a today view.

01:00:47 ◼   ► Now it's just your app's widget.

01:00:49 ◼   ► And they can put those in more places.

01:00:51 ◼   ► And as both a developer and a user,

01:00:53 ◼   ► I'm looking forward to this.

01:00:55 ◼   ► This sounds great.

01:00:55 ◼   ► They did a lot of stuff with the lock screen

01:00:57 ◼   ► to make it so that you don't accidentally

01:00:58 ◼   ► dismiss it with the touch thing.

01:00:59 ◼   ► I thought I saw someone tweet that-- maybe

01:01:01 ◼   ► this is just the beta-- but instead of just placing

01:01:05 ◼   ► your thumb over the touch ID to unlock it,

01:01:08 ◼   ► that you actually have to press the button in.

01:01:10 ◼   ► You can't just tap the touch ID to get through that screen.

01:01:13 ◼   ► - Yeah, I believe that was Ryan Jones who said that.

01:01:16 ◼   ► I believe that's correct from whatever one else.

01:01:18 ◼   ► It's kind of unclear as to what sequence of buttons

01:01:20 ◼   ► you have to hit or not hit to do that,

01:01:21 ◼   ► but that's roughly correct.

01:01:22 ◼   ► - Right, and the whole thing where you don't touch any button

01:01:24 ◼   ► just raise it up at the table

01:01:25 ◼   ► and it will show you the lock screen

01:01:26 ◼   ► because they want you to do more on the lock screen.

01:01:28 ◼   ► There's gonna be more information there hopefully

01:01:29 ◼   ► and you can customize it more

01:01:31 ◼   ► and so they want a way to get to that

01:01:33 ◼   ► without you accidentally unlocking it.

01:01:35 ◼   ► It's kind of weird that they have designed out

01:01:37 ◼   ► all the delays which are basically bad,

01:01:39 ◼   ► but that people had,

01:01:41 ◼   ► those delays had become part of the UI for people who

01:01:43 ◼   ► would be dealing with their phones.

01:01:45 ◼   ► And they don't want to put the delays back in,

01:01:47 ◼   ► because unlocking your phone real fast when

01:01:48 ◼   ► you want to pick it up and actually use it

01:01:49 ◼   ► is a great feature.

01:01:51 ◼   ► But they still wanted to find a way

01:01:52 ◼   ► to let you use your lock screen.

01:01:54 ◼   ► So hopefully we'll be able to develop new habits.

01:01:56 ◼   ► And hopefully this sort of raise feature and pressing the button

01:01:59 ◼   ► will work itself out into a situation

01:02:01 ◼   ► where you can get into your phone as fast as possible,

01:02:04 ◼   ► but are never frustrated by accidentally getting

01:02:06 ◼   ► into your phone when really you wanted to work

01:02:07 ◼   ► with your new fancy lock screen.

01:02:09 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:02:10 ◼   ► And this solves this raise to view or raise to wake,

01:02:14 ◼   ► I think they called it.

01:02:15 ◼   ► It solves a problem that I actually don't have

01:02:16 ◼   ► 'cause I am really good at hitting the side button

01:02:19 ◼   ► in order to see my notifications,

01:02:20 ◼   ► but I am the only person or one of the only people I know

01:02:23 ◼   ► that doesn't get annoyed by the way the new Touch ID works.

01:02:27 ◼   ► And so this is clearly solving a problem

01:02:30 ◼   ► for the overwhelming majority of people where,

01:02:32 ◼   ► like you said, they mash down on the home button,

01:02:34 ◼   ► suddenly they're right through the lock screen

01:02:36 ◼   ► and they didn't get to see any of the notifications

01:02:38 ◼   ► that they wanted to see.

01:02:39 ◼   ► And I do that occasionally, but generally speaking, I'm pretty good at avoiding it.

01:02:42 ◼   ► What was interesting though, and as a potential security issue, is you could interact with

01:02:47 ◼   ► these widgets on the lock screen pretty interestingly.

01:02:51 ◼   ► Like you could respond to a text message, for example, right on the lock screen.

01:02:53 ◼   ► So you're letting someone take your locked phone and respond as if they're you?

01:02:56 ◼   ► Right.

01:02:57 ◼   ► I'm not quite sure how this all works out in practice.

01:02:59 ◼   ► And it did not, this, what I'm about to describe was clearly not shown during the demo.

01:03:04 ◼   ► But what I would suspect is if you ever have your phone and it's locked and you swipe up

01:03:10 ◼   ► and go to the camera, take a picture, and then you want to go to your old pictures that

01:03:13 ◼   ► you had taken previously, in order to do or to send one, in order to do that, it has like

01:03:18 ◼   ► an interstitial, if you will, saying, "Okay, enter your passcode or touch ID or what have

01:03:21 ◼   ► you in order to perform an action like that."

01:03:24 ◼   ► Anything that's destructive or that involves something leaving the phone.

01:03:28 ◼   ► I would guess that the same sort of thing would happen here, but without question, that

01:03:33 ◼   ► is not what they showed during the demo.

01:03:34 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:03:35 ◼   ► And the same thing, speaking of the widgets,

01:03:36 ◼   ► like of doing more stuff from the lock screen,

01:03:39 ◼   ► the same kind of situation problem presents itself there

01:03:41 ◼   ► is like to make the lock screen more useful,

01:03:44 ◼   ► you want people to be able to do more things,

01:03:46 ◼   ► but to do more things or show more information that

01:03:49 ◼   ► shouldn't be on the lock screen.

01:03:51 ◼   ► Imagine you had these rich widgets that

01:03:53 ◼   ► could show you all sorts of contextual information

01:03:55 ◼   ► about your day and things that have happened

01:03:56 ◼   ► to different applications.

01:03:57 ◼   ► Do you want anyone to be able to see that when they raise

01:03:59 ◼   ► your phone?

01:03:59 ◼   ► That's why on the Mac, a lot of the sort of notification center

01:04:02 ◼   ► stuff says, hey, should this show on the lock screen

01:04:04 ◼   ► or should it not?

01:04:05 ◼   ► I'm sure the same things will be on iOS,

01:04:07 ◼   ► but it's a type of granularity.

01:04:09 ◼   ► Even I have trouble deciding, like going

01:04:10 ◼   ► through each individual app and saying,

01:04:11 ◼   ► do I want this show on the lock screen?

01:04:12 ◼   ► It's kind of useful, but then what if someone comes by my Mac

01:04:14 ◼   ► and sees a message from my wife that's

01:04:16 ◼   ► like floating in a corner in a box

01:04:17 ◼   ► that I don't want them to see?

01:04:19 ◼   ► I don't know.

01:04:20 ◼   ► It's difficult privacy-wise.

01:04:22 ◼   ► I think what Apple is creeping up on slowly, slowly, slowly

01:04:25 ◼   ► is a screen on your phone that is not springboard, that is not

01:04:29 ◼   ► a big grid of icons that has a bunch of information that you can customize that third party apps

01:04:35 ◼   ► can contribute to. I don't think the lock screen is that screen. I think that's another

01:04:38 ◼   ► screen. Android users are telling me exactly what screen it is. Like, why don't you have

01:04:41 ◼   ► real widgets that don't have to be the full width of the thing that you can customize

01:04:44 ◼   ► and have sort of like a dashboard, if you will, for the phone that you customize to

01:04:50 ◼   ► contain all this information, and that's not really the lock screen. So I think they'll

01:04:54 ◼   ► arrive at that eventually, but they're not there yet. And right now they're just making

01:04:57 ◼   ► the lock screen better than it was, which I think is good.

01:04:59 ◼   ► - Yeah, a couple other quick hits,

01:05:01 ◼   ► and then there's some other big ones.

01:05:04 ◼   ► Maps looks improved.

01:05:05 ◼   ► The turn-by-turn looked a lot nicer to me.

01:05:09 ◼   ► The traffic, instead of doing little dots,

01:05:11 ◼   ► it's an actual highlight which looked better.

01:05:13 ◼   ► - And you can zoom out without fighting

01:05:15 ◼   ► with your goddamn phone, just like squeezing.

01:05:17 ◼   ► How many times I fought with the phone

01:05:18 ◼   ► with like seven fingers on the screen,

01:05:20 ◼   ► stay zoomed out so I can see where the, oh no.

01:05:22 ◼   ► - It's the worst, I completely agree with you.

01:05:25 ◼   ► They also did a very cool thing,

01:05:27 ◼   ► I think Waze has already done for years, but if you're about to make a turn, they'll zoom

01:05:32 ◼   ► way, way, way in, and if you're not going to make a turn for a while, it'll zoom way

01:05:36 ◼   ► out, which I really, really liked.

01:05:37 ◼   ► Yeah, that's nice.

01:05:39 ◼   ► They also had some contextual stuff.

01:05:41 ◼   ► A lot of this, a lot of today's announcements were about trying to infer context for many

01:05:47 ◼   ► of the operations you're doing, and that's not just limited to maps.

01:05:50 ◼   ► And that actually brings me nicely to Siri improvements.

01:05:53 ◼   ► They touted a lot of different Siri improvements, including a Siri API.

01:05:58 ◼   ► And one of the things that I thought was most interesting about the Siri API was that they

01:06:02 ◼   ► said without saying that this is all natural language and kind of implied that unlike Alexa,

01:06:09 ◼   ► which I've not used to be completely fair, but I've understood to be, and I think one

01:06:13 ◼   ► of you guys actually said it, to be very much like a command line.

01:06:16 ◼   ► Yeah, I said that.

01:06:17 ◼   ► Yeah, exactly.

01:06:18 ◼   ► So it's not, what Siri is, is not a command line.

01:06:21 ◼   ► series, not just a command line where you have to do, you know, subject, verb, action

01:06:25 ◼   ► or whatever the case may be.

01:06:26 ◼   ► >> Yeah, yeah. It's more flexible and like the syntax that it accepts.

01:06:28 ◼   ► >> Right. And actually in the State of the Union when they go--when they went through

01:06:31 ◼   ► the nuts and bolts about how that works from a developer perspective, one of the things

01:06:35 ◼   ► they said in so many words was, "Hey, listen, this could happen--this same command that

01:06:42 ◼   ► you're trying to perform could be verbalized in one of six different ways and that's on

01:06:46 ◼   ► us to figure out and to extract what the actual, they had the different components of a Siri

01:06:53 ◼   ► command, I forget what they are offhand, but whatever those components are, it's on us,

01:06:56 ◼   ► on Apple, to extract what those, particularly the verb, the subject, the action, whatever,

01:07:01 ◼   ► are and we will give that to you developers. So that means it's on Apple to parse out how

01:07:07 ◼   ► exactly it is the user structures that sentence, which assuming it works is how I think it

01:07:13 ◼   ► should work, but that's a big assumption.

01:07:16 ◼   ► >> Well, that's what the intent system is about, and that's why it's limited to certain

01:07:18 ◼   ► kinds of applications, I would imagine, is because Siri determines the intent of, like,

01:07:24 ◼   ► what is this person trying to do? And then it creates a structured message for that intended

01:07:29 ◼   ► action. So if the intended action is some kind of messaging, that's the one they showed,

01:07:33 ◼   ► like, it's like, there's a recipient, there's the content of the message, and maybe a few

01:07:36 ◼   ► other bits, and it gives the application that structured information. The application has

01:07:41 ◼   ► no idea what you said. I don't even know if you can get at that information from the application.

01:07:44 ◼   ► because it's an application that says I handle, you know, if someone, if the intent is to

01:07:48 ◼   ► message somebody, that's a thing that I can do. So Siri will figure out, you're trying

01:07:52 ◼   ► to send a message, you're trying to send it to this person, you're trying to send it with

01:07:55 ◼   ► this app, and then we'll hand off to the app, here is the information, here is the user's

01:07:59 ◼   ► intent, they wanted to talk to you, WeChat or whatever, they wanted to send it to this

01:08:03 ◼   ► person, and here's the message. And that's why you have to have structured, like, what

01:08:07 ◼   ► can't be for all apps, like, oh, I just want to make an app, and if someone says this,

01:08:10 ◼   ► I want my app to do that. No, it has to be one of the intents that they support. I don't

01:08:14 ◼   ► know how many different intents they support, but it's a limited set of like, five or six.

01:08:18 ◼   ► Yeah, so it's right here. So they announced that the following are supported in SiriKit.

01:08:23 ◼   ► Messaging apps, VoIP calling, payments, ride booking, photo search, and workouts. And that's

01:08:28 ◼   ► it. Only those six. And each one of those things has a structure of the message that

01:08:32 ◼   ► the application has to be ready to handle. And Siri handles the "I'll figure out what

01:08:36 ◼   ► they said a bunch of crap, and what they mean is I want you, application, to do this thing,

01:08:40 ◼   ► It's one of the short lists of supported things, which

01:08:43 ◼   ► is it's limiting because you can't say, oh, I had a game

01:08:46 ◼   ► and I want people to say, I want, you know,

01:08:49 ◼   ► please foodle the blah blah blah.

01:08:50 ◼   ► No, challenge John at a game.

01:08:53 ◼   ► But even something within the world of your app,

01:08:55 ◼   ► like change armor, put on the good armor on character,

01:08:59 ◼   ► whatever.

01:09:00 ◼   ► Just make some Destiny.

01:09:01 ◼   ► We wouldn't understand that.

01:09:02 ◼   ► Yeah, if you wanted to do that.

01:09:04 ◼   ► That's not going to have integration with Destiny.

01:09:05 ◼   ► But yeah, imagine something that only made sense

01:09:07 ◼   ► in the realm of your game.

01:09:09 ◼   ► you can't support that because you have, in the Siri API, you have no facility to say

01:09:15 ◼   ► what you want, you know, I want people to say this and I want this to happen. That's

01:09:18 ◼   ► not how it works at all. So this system is much more flexible but also more limited.

01:09:22 ◼   ► And it allows people to add Siri support without knowing anything about how Siri works or caring

01:09:27 ◼   ► how it works or even caring that they use Siri because an intent can be expressed by

01:09:31 ◼   ► anything. An intent can be expressed by hand signal, by sending an email to yourself, by

01:09:36 ◼   ► by putting text messages in, by waving your arm.

01:09:38 ◼   ► Like, your application has no idea

01:09:40 ◼   ► how the intent was expressed by the user.

01:09:41 ◼   ► It is totally divorced from it, which I think is super smart,

01:09:44 ◼   ► but it's also going to mean that the roll out of Siri

01:09:46 ◼   ► is going to be limited.

01:09:47 ◼   ► And I think it's fine for it to be limited,

01:09:49 ◼   ► especially since the classes they chose are good,

01:09:51 ◼   ► common classes of applications.

01:09:53 ◼   ► I'm sure this will expand outward,

01:09:55 ◼   ► just like extension points have expanded outward for the places

01:09:58 ◼   ► you can extend on iOS and on the Mac.

01:10:02 ◼   ► But I think it's a very clever API,

01:10:05 ◼   ► and it is better than let's just do the simplest thing,

01:10:07 ◼   ► which you say a bunch of stuff,

01:10:08 ◼   ► and you identify an application,

01:10:10 ◼   ► and then we translate it to text

01:10:11 ◼   ► and hand it off to your app,

01:10:12 ◼   ► because that would have been a disaster.

01:10:13 ◼   ► - Yep, couldn't agree more.

01:10:14 ◼   ► - Yeah, I mean, like the system as it stands now,

01:10:16 ◼   ► like I have kind of mixed feelings about it,

01:10:17 ◼   ► because they didn't basically give me anything

01:10:20 ◼   ► I could use for Overcast,

01:10:20 ◼   ► because they didn't create or release

01:10:23 ◼   ► one of these like intent structures,

01:10:24 ◼   ► that is play media item,

01:10:26 ◼   ► or control control media playback in this app.

01:10:28 ◼   ► - A media intent is a gimme though,

01:10:30 ◼   ► like that's something they will,

01:10:31 ◼   ► I feel like they will do.

01:10:32 ◼   ► - Well, it depends on why it's not there now.

01:10:34 ◼   ► If it's not there now because they just didn't get to it,

01:10:36 ◼   ► sure.

01:10:37 ◼   ► If it isn't there now because maybe they wanted to

01:10:39 ◼   ► protect Apple Music, I hope that's not the reason.

01:10:43 ◼   ► It is possible that's the reason, I hope that isn't it.

01:10:45 ◼   ► And knowing Apple, that probably isn't it.

01:10:48 ◼   ► - No, I mean, they would want to control,

01:10:49 ◼   ► like if that was the case, you'd be able to have,

01:10:52 ◼   ► to talk to Siri to control all media playing

01:10:55 ◼   ► in any of the native media controllers, right?

01:10:58 ◼   ► - Yeah, I guess.

01:11:00 ◼   ► But, yeah, I don't know.

01:11:01 ◼   ► - We'll see, we'll see.

01:11:02 ◼   ► - Yeah, 'cause like right now you can say, you know,

01:11:04 ◼   ► play this artist's name and it just plays it in Apple Music.

01:11:06 ◼   ► And that's one of the big reasons why people

01:11:08 ◼   ► choose Apple Music over its competitors.

01:11:10 ◼   ► - I'm thinking like video services.

01:11:11 ◼   ► Like they're not competing with YouTube at this point.

01:11:13 ◼   ► But there's still no, you know, show me the latest

01:11:16 ◼   ► whatever video on the whatever channel on YouTube.

01:11:18 ◼   ► - Well and they have that on Apple TV.

01:11:20 ◼   ► Like they did add that to Apple TV's theory

01:11:22 ◼   ► where now you can, you know, YouTube is part of

01:11:24 ◼   ► Apple TV's universal search.

01:11:26 ◼   ► - But not on iOS and YouTube is on there as well.

01:11:27 ◼   ► Anyway, hopefully it's not a political reason.

01:11:30 ◼   ► But technologically speaking, a media playback intent,

01:11:34 ◼   ► or even like something, I don't know,

01:11:35 ◼   ► do they have like an email?

01:11:37 ◼   ► I guess maybe that falls into the category of messaging.

01:11:38 ◼   ► - I think it's, I mean, email's only for old people like us.

01:11:40 ◼   ► It's not like the little young kids are doing.

01:11:43 ◼   ► - Anyway, like this is promising.

01:11:44 ◼   ► Siri finally has an API.

01:11:45 ◼   ► It seems like a reasonable good API

01:11:47 ◼   ► that they expand out to new intents.

01:11:49 ◼   ► And by adding new intents,

01:11:50 ◼   ► I don't think there's any particular complexity they add.

01:11:52 ◼   ► It's just like, intents address categories,

01:11:54 ◼   ► not individual apps.

01:11:55 ◼   ► So they didn't pick select partners.

01:11:57 ◼   ► Any intent that they add,

01:11:58 ◼   ► if they make a media playback intent,

01:11:59 ◼   ► They're not making like an overcast intent or a YouTube

01:12:02 ◼   ► intent.

01:12:02 ◼   ► They're going to make one that encompasses

01:12:04 ◼   ► huge numbers of applications, just like they have with like

01:12:07 ◼   ► the intents they have on out.

01:12:08 ◼   ► So I think that the possible number

01:12:10 ◼   ► of useful intents in the world is like low hundreds,

01:12:13 ◼   ► you know, right?

01:12:14 ◼   ► And that will cover thousands upon thousands

01:12:17 ◼   ► upon thousands of apps.

01:12:18 ◼   ► Yeah.

01:12:18 ◼   ► I mean, overall, I'm very happy with how

01:12:20 ◼   ► they implemented this API.

01:12:22 ◼   ► It seems like a very smart way to do it.

01:12:24 ◼   ► It is, as you mentioned earlier, because it kind of abstracts

01:12:27 ◼   ► dealing with the language and some of the details

01:12:31 ◼   ► of how the person structures their statement.

01:12:33 ◼   ► It abstracts all that away for the developers,

01:12:35 ◼   ► so it's really easy to do things like implement

01:12:37 ◼   ► messaging app, because you don't need to,

01:12:38 ◼   ► if you say, "Send a message to John that I will be late."

01:12:43 ◼   ► Does the app need to know that I said that

01:12:47 ◼   ► before I will be late, or does it just get I will be late?

01:12:51 ◼   ► It abstracts all that away, it deals with all that for you.

01:12:52 ◼   ► That's awesome.

01:12:53 ◼   ► - I know you can blame all the stupid bugs on,

01:12:55 ◼   ► "Well, I don't have any choice.

01:12:55 ◼   ► "This is the intent, send me this,

01:12:57 ◼   ► "it thinks the message is this,

01:12:58 ◼   ► "and if it includes that,

01:12:59 ◼   ► "we all just complain about Siri some more."

01:13:00 ◼   ► - Yeah, 'cause that abstracts away

01:13:02 ◼   ► dealing with so many language issues

01:13:04 ◼   ► and different languages and different constructs.

01:13:07 ◼   ► So it's great for the developers that it supports,

01:13:10 ◼   ► and I hope in the future it supports more developers.

01:13:13 ◼   ► - Yeah, I completely agree with everything you just said.

01:13:14 ◼   ► And I wanna double down on what you said a second ago,

01:13:17 ◼   ► which is it supports like 30-some languages

01:13:19 ◼   ► or something like that? - Yeah, something like that, yeah.

01:13:20 ◼   ► - Which is quite a bit different

01:13:21 ◼   ► than most of the voice-enabled stuff,

01:13:24 ◼   ► or certainly Amazon's if not Google's.

01:13:27 ◼   ► There were a couple of other things that were mentioned

01:13:29 ◼   ► that I'd like to try to breeze through pretty quickly

01:13:31 ◼   ► 'cause there was another big section in the iOS stuff.

01:13:33 ◼   ► The quick stuff I'd like to breeze through

01:13:34 ◼   ► is Apple Music got a refresh.

01:13:36 ◼   ► This was when Bozeman St. John came up.

01:13:39 ◼   ► I may have pronounced that wrong, but she was awesome.

01:13:42 ◼   ► - She was great.

01:13:43 ◼   ► - There was one small part where she was trying to get

01:13:44 ◼   ► a bunch of like completely nerdy developers

01:13:47 ◼   ► to try to sing or rap rapper's delight with her.

01:13:50 ◼   ► - That was part of the joke though in the end

01:13:52 ◼   ► 'Cause it was a long setup for realizing

01:13:54 ◼   ► this is not happening and you guys need to practice.

01:13:57 ◼   ► - But it was, other than that,

01:13:59 ◼   ► which got a little bit cringe-worthy,

01:14:01 ◼   ► I thought she did an unbelievable job.

01:14:03 ◼   ► And to my recollection, the best first-time performance

01:14:06 ◼   ► of anyone I've ever seen on an Apple stage.

01:14:09 ◼   ► - Yeah, maybe.

01:14:10 ◼   ► - One of my few tweets during the thing was like,

01:14:11 ◼   ► being cooler than Eddy Cue is admittedly a low bar.

01:14:14 ◼   ► But she achieved it handily.

01:14:16 ◼   ► - Oh, very much so.

01:14:17 ◼   ► - 'Cause really, I mean, it's a tough call.

01:14:20 ◼   ► You want someone to be up there to show enthusiasm for music.

01:14:23 ◼   ► And it's hard to do that demo all the time.

01:14:26 ◼   ► As someone snarkily tweeted, once again,

01:14:27 ◼   ► Apple shows us how to enjoy music.

01:14:29 ◼   ► We all understand how to enjoy it.

01:14:30 ◼   ► But really, if you're going to do an Apple Music demo,

01:14:33 ◼   ► you can't really demo it as a series of screens and stuff.

01:14:36 ◼   ► The whole point of the thing is the music.

01:14:38 ◼   ► And even though the message of this one was like,

01:14:39 ◼   ► you can find your stuff more easily or whatever,

01:14:41 ◼   ► there's always going to be a part where they

01:14:42 ◼   ► show enthusiasm for music.

01:14:43 ◼   ► And you need a presenter up there who is clearly

01:14:46 ◼   ► enthusiastic about it.

01:14:47 ◼   ► And bottom line is you have to have someone who is relatable.

01:14:50 ◼   ► And even though a lot of us are old in the audience,

01:14:53 ◼   ► we can't relate to Eddy Cue getting down.

01:14:56 ◼   ► And I don't blame, it's not his fault.

01:14:58 ◼   ► - No, a little bit.

01:14:59 ◼   ► - Everyone gets old, man.

01:15:01 ◼   ► Everyone becomes uncool or uncooler than they were before.

01:15:05 ◼   ► And it was just a silly choice

01:15:07 ◼   ► to have him up there doing that.

01:15:08 ◼   ► Bring someone else who is better at this than you

01:15:12 ◼   ► and who is more relatable.

01:15:12 ◼   ► And they did, hallelujah, and it was better.

01:15:15 ◼   ► - Yeah, I mean, it's still a really tough gig

01:15:17 ◼   ► because that audience and that setting

01:15:21 ◼   ► is really not conducive to like,

01:15:23 ◼   ► we're gonna talk cool about music,

01:15:25 ◼   ► and we're gonna get everyone all excited

01:15:27 ◼   ► about our cool music.

01:15:28 ◼   ► You can't do that in that room,

01:15:30 ◼   ► no matter how cool you are.

01:15:31 ◼   ► - But you can do it by being funny.

01:15:32 ◼   ► Craig killed it once again, right?

01:15:34 ◼   ► You have to be relatable to that audience,

01:15:37 ◼   ► but you can do it through humor.

01:15:40 ◼   ► You can do it through self-deprecating humor.

01:15:41 ◼   ► - But I actually think that she was

01:15:44 ◼   ► a different kind of funny.

01:15:46 ◼   ► again, that one cringe-worthy part aside,

01:15:48 ◼   ► I thought she was a different kind of funny

01:15:50 ◼   ► and arguably more funny than anyone else on stage.

01:15:53 ◼   ► And the thing that was so striking to me

01:15:55 ◼   ► was that she was a different kind of funny.

01:15:57 ◼   ► Instead of the dad jokes that have been on Apple--

01:15:59 ◼   ► - That's all you can do if you're a dad.

01:16:01 ◼   ► - Agreed, agreed.

01:16:02 ◼   ► That is the entirety of your repertoire.

01:16:04 ◼   ► But in a way that I've never seen an Apple keynote be funny,

01:16:09 ◼   ► her portion of the keynote was a different kind of funny.

01:16:13 ◼   ► And even as not a, or even as a fellow white man,

01:16:18 ◼   ► like most of the people that were always

01:16:21 ◼   ► on the Apple keynote stages,

01:16:23 ◼   ► I really enjoyed this different kind of funny.

01:16:26 ◼   ► I thought it made for a better keynote,

01:16:28 ◼   ► having this different kind of voice.

01:16:30 ◼   ► And I really thought she did an unbelievably good job.

01:16:33 ◼   ► - Yeah, and that was always the trick

01:16:35 ◼   ► to being a good presenter.

01:16:35 ◼   ► You have to be comfortable with yourself, and she was.

01:16:38 ◼   ► And it makes you, like even if your presentation

01:16:40 ◼   ► doesn't go that well, if you're comfortable with yourself

01:16:41 ◼   ► and you roll with it, that makes the audience more comfortable.

01:16:44 ◼   ► And if you can express genuine enthusiasm for the new thing

01:16:47 ◼   ► that you're showing.

01:16:49 ◼   ► As for Apple Music itself, they're

01:16:51 ◼   ► trying to make it nicer to use by making it easier

01:16:54 ◼   ► to find the stuff that you actually care about

01:16:56 ◼   ► and addressing the idea of, hey, I get on a plane

01:16:58 ◼   ► and I have no idea what the heck is on my phone.

01:17:00 ◼   ► So they addressed that directly and said, oh, now

01:17:02 ◼   ► we have a special view.

01:17:04 ◼   ► I feel like they're addressing-- once again, addressing user

01:17:06 ◼   ► needs that I feel like they should have known a year ago

01:17:09 ◼   ► but didn't.

01:17:10 ◼   ► Now they've discovered them, they've

01:17:12 ◼   ► rearranged things a little bit, they've

01:17:13 ◼   ► added a limited amount of features.

01:17:16 ◼   ► Is that enough to make Apple Music better?

01:17:18 ◼   ► Is it still going to fight with people's metadata

01:17:21 ◼   ► and give you bad versions of stuff and do all that?

01:17:24 ◼   ► I don't know.

01:17:25 ◼   ► I hope not.

01:17:25 ◼   ► But I still feel like that's the albatross around Apple Music's

01:17:28 ◼   ► neck.

01:17:30 ◼   ► For the people who should be the biggest fans of Apple Music,

01:17:33 ◼   ► music lovers who have huge music collections,

01:17:35 ◼   ► Apple Music I still think feels like the enemy

01:17:37 ◼   ► because it's going to screw with your music in ways

01:17:39 ◼   ► that you don't understand, and it's like a giant beast

01:17:42 ◼   ► to wrangle and you say no thanks.

01:17:44 ◼   ► As opposed to say iTunes match, which had the potential

01:17:46 ◼   ► to be just as bad, but was not just as bad.

01:17:48 ◼   ► That it would mess with your music in fairly predictable

01:17:51 ◼   ► ways and the upside was pretty big.

01:17:54 ◼   ► - Yep, I still use iTunes match and still love it.

01:17:56 ◼   ► - Yeah, if they cancel iTunes match, that would be terrible

01:17:58 ◼   ► because I don't want to use, you know, like we want,

01:18:01 ◼   ► like photos, we want the photo style refresh.

01:18:04 ◼   ► We're still waiting for the photo styles

01:18:05 ◼   ► to refresh our music.

01:18:06 ◼   ► I don't think it's supposed to be it, but it's a bad job.

01:18:08 ◼   ► We want all our music everywhere and we want to control it and we don't want Apple screwing

01:18:11 ◼   ► with it and messing it up.

01:18:12 ◼   ► So that's a perfect segue to the other thing I wanted to very briefly touch on, which is

01:18:16 ◼   ► photos.

01:18:17 ◼   ► And basically it was, "Hey, we're doing Google Photos, but we're doing it on device."

01:18:22 ◼   ► With no mention of Google anywhere, but that's expected.

01:18:26 ◼   ► And I mean that's basically what I saw.

01:18:28 ◼   ► And what I saw looked to me like it was taking all of the best bits of Google Photos, like

01:18:33 ◼   ► arbitrarily searching for Handbrake or Controller.

01:18:36 ◼   ► So they didn't do that demo.

01:18:38 ◼   ► They didn't do the-- like they said, hey,

01:18:40 ◼   ► we'll notice that there's water and there's animal.

01:18:42 ◼   ► They didn't pull up a search screen and say horses.

01:18:45 ◼   ► Like I continue to think that Google will do this better.

01:18:48 ◼   ► Obviously I'm going to do the controller custom.

01:18:50 ◼   ► By the way, update on-- we didn't

01:18:51 ◼   ► have any follow up in this episode,

01:18:52 ◼   ► but a small amount of follow up.

01:18:54 ◼   ► Once I uploaded all of my photos to Google Photo

01:18:59 ◼   ► and I typed controller, guess what it found?

01:19:01 ◼   ► Exactly the controller pictures that it had found before,

01:19:04 ◼   ► and also the ones that they just hadn't been uploaded yet.

01:19:06 ◼   ► So Google Photos totally aced the controller test,

01:19:09 ◼   ► took down all my controller pictures.

01:19:11 ◼   ► And so that's going to be my first test,

01:19:13 ◼   ► because all my photos are already uploaded to Apple's

01:19:15 ◼   ► photos in the cloud thing.

01:19:17 ◼   ► And when this feature rolls out, as I assume it will on the Mac

01:19:20 ◼   ► as well, I'm going to type controller,

01:19:21 ◼   ► and I almost guarantee that it will not find it.

01:19:24 ◼   ► So it's just a question of how much better is

01:19:26 ◼   ► Google with this than Apple.