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the Intolerable number 276 December 2015
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welcome back everybody to be
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uncomfortable i'm your host Jason smell
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we as we record this we are weak away
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from the release of star wars the force
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awakens and this could be a little
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change of pace this episode little break
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we did a couple holiday episodes and of
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course I imagine that in the next couple
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of weeks are our episodes are going to
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be devoted to the force awakens but i
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wanted to take that this moment in
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between to talk about the anticipation
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and our expectations a little bit and
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what our plans are and and just just set
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the stage a little bit for the Star Wars
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revival that is to come
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so let me introduce the three people who
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i would i would expect you would expect
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to be here wherever we're talking about
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Star Wars the people who have been on I
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believe essentially all our star wars
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episodes first coming to her coming to
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hear from her sickbed just just revive
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temporarily before retreating there and
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and i'm very glad that she could could
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make it serenity Caldwell I hi i just
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came out of a back to thank to come
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podcast for 45 minutes every record out
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Jason couldn't that's girl you got back
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to take come on that's why it's not that
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serious which has to be some liquid
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while it's dr. droid goes if I could
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just have some tea like back to sac did
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you also the back to t they just heat up
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the stuff from the from the tank it's
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not no don't drink that was the idea is
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that it's like Andy 30 John syracuse you
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heard him of course he's here hi hope
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we're not going to talk about the
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trailer i didn't watch know that would
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be crazy to be wrong
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we can talk about why you didn't watch
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it maybe yeah and a moron hi
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this deal is getting worse all the time
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it is it is well how bad is this deal i
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looked it up
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we did our flash podcast about disney
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announcing the new Star Wars trilogy
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three years ago wow it was October
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thirty-first halloween 2012
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remember it it was a Thursday warm day
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up but episode 214 this is 276 that is
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how long it's been it's been a long time
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i require an outrageous and once we've
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seen the movie and talked about it did
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we just shut down the podcast are we
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done that it was probably no more star
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wars that i heard they're gonna make a
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new one of these every year it's a rumor
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service its gonna be like next taking
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over apple from the inside this will
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slowly become a star wars' podcast the
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star the star wars a minute will never
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be able to catch up
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never ever they will never be able to do
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it and then in may of 2014
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we talked about casting and then it
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Thanksgiving of 2014
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we got the teaser trailer and then of
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course this year they released the the
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final trailer and everybody asked us if
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one final except for like additional
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scenes that kept getting added into
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international versions of the trailers
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which is also pretty funny and everybody
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asks what we're going to do a trailer
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analysis episode which sort of you know
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we did it a couple of times why would
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why would we not do it again and the
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answer was no because a Miss Jones
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siracusa has decided to put himself in a
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bubble as much as possible and not be
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spoiled any further about what's going
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on how's that been going John going
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pretty well actually like a set of a
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bunch of filters on Twitter and my
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eyeballs are really good filter so if I
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see like anything related to star wars
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whether it be a picture or word or
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whatever I just scrolled off the screen
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before I can read it
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do you have somebody to vent like if
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your kids come in to talk to you is
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there someone to vent their topics
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before because you know they can go
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off-book sometimes and I think I've come
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and found one of the computers in the
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house showing like you that trailer
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viewed on YouTube you know my son has
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hasn't he knows enough not to talk to me
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about it you may have AG knots
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you should check nasty and say yeah but
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it works out pretty well like the thing
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that Jason just mentioned that they had
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been adding scenes for international I
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didn't know that that's how well my
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filter is working now John you could
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guess that that's like oh the trailer
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has been released in japan and it has an
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extra see me yeah of course it does of
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course it's surprise after we watch the
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movie i will tell you the few things
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it leaked through my filter that i may
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or may not know I don't even say them
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now but my little girl BBS John is
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actually not sure if this movie is
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longer than the two minutes of footage
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that we've seen JJ Abrams pranking us
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that's what's happening we just go in
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the theater industry back guarantee if
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the movie is cancelled somebody tell me
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well i think i think that there's great
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i mean look Ren and i spent a we had a
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long I message thread on the night that
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the full trailer came out so long where
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we were we almost just recorded that
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just like this just do a do a little
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facetime chat and require dramatic
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reading of your im's good we could I
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gotta check the transcript and we have
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theories all that and it was very
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exciting but what I what I liked about
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it was that although I've seen those
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scenes i think i think JJ Abrams is done
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a good job because although with some
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analysis you can probably get a better
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idea of the shape of the film i really
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don't know I i if there's enough there
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and enough that they may have withheld
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that i really have no idea what this
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what this film is is about other than
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the sort of broad strokes that we got
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essentially from the casting and I like
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that I thought I like feeling even
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though I've seen more of it than you
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have John I like that idea that I'm not
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isolated that with doctor who this year
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I didn't go to the gala freebase spoiler
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forum and I stayed away the whole time
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and it was kind of delightful in in its
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way to to not have any spoilers and not
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know what's coming and just let it let
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it happen and I I'm the real question is
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will any of us be able to get other than
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perhaps John who may be sealed in a
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mayonnaise go in his closet are we going
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to be able to avoid the last few days
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when people start to see it in
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screenings and things and are we going
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to try to avoid damn you're gonna try to
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avoid yeah okay I almost didn't watch
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the last trailer and eventually broke
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down and did it's because you're weak i
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am it's true i fell to the dark side i
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think the the tricky thing you know part
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of the reason for not watching this is
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part of it is just not wanting to be
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spoiled on the movie itself but there's
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also sort of that larger meta picture of
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now the idea that you might go in and
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see a new star wars movie for the first
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time and have it not suck its kind of
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you know novel for the last
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30 odd years so I think you know there's
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also a bit of that hesitancy like a half
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i see anything else I might start
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doubting whether or not you know may
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prejudice myself so I'm gonna try my
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darnedest to not find out anything and
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already I've I'm sure I've seen more
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than i would like to though nothing like
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you just and I don't think there's
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anything that we like particularly
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compromise it's just that every
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additional little seed gets you thinking
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yeah and that's the for me that's always
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the danger is you know being someone who
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watches a lot of movies reads a lot of
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books and sort of writes books works and
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you know look at narrative structures
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things like that
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I I start feeling like a helmet can I
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put these puzzle pieces together and go
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away brain go away brain to go do
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something about you take the settings in
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the trailer right and you could try to
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make an order out of them and that's
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that moment where you're like I kind of
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don't want to do that exact you want to
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leave that alone you don't you don't
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want to explore into that dark crevices
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i mean i think the the majority the vast
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majority of the trailer scenes i think
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are more character building then they
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are necessarily story building which I
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really appreciate because I don't really
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have an idea of how the Ark of the movie
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is going to go i know that there's you
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know planet a-and planet be because they
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look different and God forbid star wars
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as a planet that looks the same or that
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doesn't look the same the entire planet
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over it has different seasons so I know
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they're probably multiple planets in the
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movie but ultimately I think what
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they've done with the what they've done
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with the trailers very much is showcased
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the characters that are going to be
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involved in this and really humanize the
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characters and I think above all else
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like I could piece together i could try
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and piece together stories and I could
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put my own hopes and dreams for certain
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characters prey on my in in my my brain
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but i think that the biggest sort of
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success that in my opinion that JayJay's
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had with the with the trailers has been
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like hey remember those those three
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movies that sort of looked like Star
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Wars but there was no characterization
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at all and the characters were
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essentially cardboard cutouts we're
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going to give you like seven or eight
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trailers including the International
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spots and the and the television
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colors that that show hey this movie is
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essentially nothing but characters and
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their good characters and they have
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depth and personality and wisecracks
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entertainment weekly to the story that
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had something that I thought was
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interesting which are i think is the
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corporate explanation of what they're
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doing which is I think it was JJ Abrams
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said when we thought about what we
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wanted to do that we want what we want
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to do is go back to the original trilogy
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and recapture how people felt about that
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and I thought that was the kindest way
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possible to say forget about them
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student the the prequels son forget
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about them
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we're not going to deny that they exist
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but our goal is to not do them but
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that's basically what they were saying
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and i think that i think that the a lot
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of the sands labor materials like hey
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remember the things you liked about Star
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Wars that's what this movie is it's the
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things you like about the one star wars
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thing I've been doing lately is a mostly
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watching my son play star wars
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battlefront which is the rare in modern
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day star wars game that absolutely
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pretends the prequels do not exist
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I mean basically after the prequels
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every game with a star wars property had
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to at least if not have right frequent
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based game had to like include
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characters or ships or settings or you
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game acknowledge those movies exist you
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sort of the corporate line but i think
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bent on not replicating that experience
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driving when you look like what Lucas
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got his billions of dollars and he
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talk about Star Wars anymore but yet
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every now and then he in the last month
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he said these things that has just yeah
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that just could just continue with the
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very it's very clear that George Lucas
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does not think Star Wars is what
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everybody who loves it thinks it is
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which explains a lot about the prequels
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and and I think the clincher is when
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now that he's seen the force awakens
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which he hadn't seen until the last week
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when asked about it he said I think the
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fans are going to love it it's very much
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the kind of movie they've been looking
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for and I i love that quote because it
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puts him at opposition with the fans
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which is exactly the right place for him
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to be and and you're right JJ Abrams is
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a star wars fan and the people really
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the people making this movie r star wars
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fans and and we've seen with some other
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some other stuff like that like the JJ
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abrams star track who's writers were
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who read relaunch that that's what i was
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going to bring up the dangers of this
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entrance to think like the doctor who
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that the relaunch of doctor who with
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Russell T Davies has a big goof and
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doing doctor who
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it had good aspects of it but I think if
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there was also it also had bad aspects
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where like it not gonna say it's like
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fan fiction but where it says you know i
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haven't like a rap battle that was
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pretty much fanfiction like you can you
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can be in too deep and I here here i am
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in my little bubble of trying to not
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speaking of the dark side toward towards
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like a I'm like going to the cave on
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Dagobah like solid thinking we would you
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bring with you I'm
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having trouble holding onto the
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possibility that I could like this movie
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more than I like to be the recent Star
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Trek movies not Star Wars like I'm not
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even like oh you see I'm saying am I
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even gonna like this movie as much as I
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like to read i'm not even a big star
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trek fan and I didn't like you know that
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movies are fun and like i like is i had
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the best I can help for this that I'm
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gonna go to Star Wars movie and best
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case scenario i'll come out gone
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that was a fun movie which is exactly
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what I thought after the day's rooms the
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to start movies they were funny movie
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every time I see them again on TV and
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like these are fun these are nice but
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then i say is that is that all i can
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expect out of a Star Wars movie so I
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don't know I'm a little bit fearful of a
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Star Wars movie by a plan and i'm trying
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to think back to like the other aspect
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was like is there any piece of media
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that is it going to feel the way started
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obviously not cuz resource moves me
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younger and their formative and so on
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and so forth what is the most profound
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media experience that I've had in the
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past several years as an adult and I
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have trouble thinking of what those
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might be I mean most recent memory i
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guess i like the best thing i've seen in
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moving pictures like this past year is
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probably something like mr. robot which
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really surprised me and i found really
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intriguing and interesting but it's also
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very weird not like Star Wars at all so
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like whatever your answers that like
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what have you seen your brother movie or
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TV in your adult life that has come
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close to being as important to you as
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you know things that you've seen your
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formative your road was pretty
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impressive to me it's still sticking
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with me which is impressive given that
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it's been almost a year i would agree
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with mr. robot better that was the one
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that sort of came to me off the top of
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my head
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moviesmovies you went into expecting or
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media you went into expecting something
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completely different than what you
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actually came out with our time together
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movies that are sort of in that same
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vein I mean I could think of like you i
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can make movies that i went into and
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came out thinking hey that was a really
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fun movie and I can think of movies that
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i went in and went into and came out
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thinking hey that was a really good
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movie and you know the latter case would
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be something like I saw spotlight
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recently which is about the Boston Globe
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uncovering the the Catholic Church
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scandal here in Boston great movie
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not exactly kind of the star wars vain i
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actually think this thing that's closest
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in my mind is reading the expanse books
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i actually I really love this one
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I mean for books that are you know 500
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600 pages I just devoured those and they
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to me they read is very cinematic so I'm
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looking forward to that being translated
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the screen but again that's it feels a
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little too close in some ways because
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it's like it's almost like riding on
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Star Wars coattails to a certain extent
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you know space adventure and and i don't
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know i think you're right John that the
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problem being that not only is this
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where these formative and things that we
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saw you know as a as young as young
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people but also they were you know kind
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of the revolutionary in their own way
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right like in the context of the cinema
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that was going on there so it's it's a
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lot of lot of boxes to check to to find
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something that appeals to you at that
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age that also causes such a big seismic
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shift in the way that things are done i
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think actually the closest thing is sort
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of a media experience in some ways the
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the marvel cinematic universe and the
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fact that they've created this huge like
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just like huge Hydra like technical
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property that crosses all these
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different genres and different types of
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media is just utterly unlike anything
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that i have seen before in any way as
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star star wars certainly gets the
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closest in that way but even it was
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fairly limited compared to the MCU which
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seems to have all these different
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properties everywhere on TV you know in
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movies on netflix direct TV series some
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comic books all of that it's just it's a
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its enormous undertaking and i don't
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think i would have been possible without
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star wars of success but that's where
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the closest i can think of something
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that is just kind of taken on a life of
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its own criticized one movie to take
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their place
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haha MCU is definitely a feat and that
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definitely I think right off of the
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previous and prior success of Star Wars
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I don't know it's and it's it's an
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interesting question to think about i
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think for a fury road was a good example
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because you wrote is not new like oh if
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you're going to do something no movie
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has ever done before because they're
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been mad max moves before and I think
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nothing in fury road was particularly
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groundbreaking terms of the boundary it
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was just done really well and distilled
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down to it
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essence and the reason it stood out so
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much is because modern movies feel like
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they have to have all these particular
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elements and sort of a feeling and the
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paces ferry road is like cut out all
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that distill it down to this very
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concentrated form of a particular thing
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that had existed in the past that were
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all kind of like had our help
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blonde back in the theater because like
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oh yeah that I remember that and this is
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a really good example of that and I
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haven't seen a movie like this in a long
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time and it you know and thatthat's what
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stood out to me that like I think that
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probably road did was maybe the most
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affecting theater experience I've had in
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awhile but because it was so pure and
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you know so primal it doesn't quite fall
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that just like really stick with sticks
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with being because I I you know I'm
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gonna watch that movie for years and
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years i'm going to keep it in my
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collection i'm going to treasure it
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doesn't feel like that to me it doesn't
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stick in your mind the same way but it
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does it's funny to me because fury road
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kind of feels like the Orson Welles of
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sci-fi movies where it's just it's it's
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such a great its impeccably built
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science fiction film um and it just it
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hits all of the buttons but it doesn't
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you know i'm i'm picturing you know the
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thing that that star wars really did for
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me is a kid is it gave me something to
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identify with and something to strive
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towards in a strange way and it's like I
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would you know I built God knows how
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many cardboard spaceships from age 72
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age 15 and I can't imagine building
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cardboard war rigs to this to the same
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extent yeah I mean I think about it and
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like if if we're talking about films in
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particular that affect me is like I I
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would categorize some certain pixar
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films in that category
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I know you know Wally is not the most
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not the not the best pixar film but
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definitely would is very affecting and
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it's something that I go back to a lot
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and now I feel like I saw when I was old
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enough to both appreciate it as a as a
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film as well as you know it I wouldn't
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consider that a formative because it
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came out past college I don't know it's
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that like obviously like oh it's better
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than the prequels right like I mean we
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of you know genius level stuff and we've
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seen the other end where it's just
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garbage and so chances are it probably
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you are we okay with that
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I think I'm okay with that I mean there
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that i have certainly enough stars
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properties that I've read that were
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terrible and i read it because hey more
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star worse I've you know Chewbacca dying
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i can i'm glad that's not canon anymore
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easily erase that from my memory but I'm
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you know I mean I stuck with the clone
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early episodes are rough going and you
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get a lot of really you know you you you
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moments in clone wars in Star Wars
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think i would have given that a chance
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anything even remove
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Lee in that vein where it's like yet if
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has to be brand-new nostalgia like
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instant nostalgia it doesn't have to be
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a groundbreaking phone and it doesn't
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have to at least for me be you know the
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end-all-be-all Star Wars movies if I saw
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Star Wars movie it was better than
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Empire i think i would have to question
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my entire life so I I feel like I'm okay
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settling into the pantheon as this is a
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really good piece of Star Wars lore that
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original trilogy this is what you should
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see next because this you know carries
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on the story and really interesting
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things happen I would be okay with that
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and as a side note it looks like we're
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going to get a female protagonist you
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know just guessing here hypothetically
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but it looks like we're gonna get a
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female protagonist in Star Wars which is
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pretty darn exciting regardless and I'm
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just like I'm i'm really looking forward
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disney doing here because you Disney
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several billion dollars and you know
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Star Wars and yeah there were some
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ancillary stuff but it was early and now
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for Star Wars to be what you know to
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make back
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disney's investment it needs to be
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franchise it needs to be a movie series
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that with a new movie every year and be
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you know what a modern and TV spin-offs
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and all these things that that star wars
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needs to be so it's never gonna be the
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wars to be for everybody and and so even
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if we don't even know what we get is
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movies and it's more like you know a
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little bit it just us being happy that
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we're playing in that world and people
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are ripping off of the things that we
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know by heart from those other movies
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like watching a band that we loved
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from 20 years ago or for some of us on
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this conversation 10 years ago you know
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along to when we were kids
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um and that that will be good for us but
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disney and I think that's the other part
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of what's being crafted here is they
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want this to be something that I a
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teenager would really like and that a
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ten-year-old would would really like and
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buy the toys for and all of those things
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and become a lifelong star wars fan too
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it may be unreasonable and the net
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you're like yeah that was a fine piece
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of of entertainment but not not life
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out liking it
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feeling better about the franchise as a
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whole getting you know that warm glow of
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things that we recognized and loved
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part of this gets fulfilled which is
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that you know the kids want to buy the
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toys & and play and and no more about
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because of what star wars didn't because
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of all the other media that we've
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different expectations for movies now so
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we want to sell to everybody into like a
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concrete little package that's like it's
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got everything it's got action it's got
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format that point and so moviemaking has
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everything sort of tends towards that
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kids some seven-year-olds gonna walk out
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of this movie and you know not having
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their eyes are going to be opened in
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this is going to have the effect on them
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that it had on offs back then but yeah
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it's it's hard to tell because you can't
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sort of really can't run the experiment
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again right now the franchise that
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toward yes they are in fact doing this
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say but like their first their first
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exposure to it was the prequels which
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child but the children really don't
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realize what's good or not like when
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you're really little kids have bad taste
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nephew is is completely obsessed with
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Star Wars and all is he all he seen as
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the prequels but he he loves the idea
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he's like I would you know I want to
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pilot a fighter and I can't wait for the
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force awakens and I think that Jedi are
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so cool like he didn't get the you know
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the small picture details that we
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focused on his adults big
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like oh my god this is awful he focused
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on the big picture stuff the stuff that
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makes star wars star wars and I'm
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praying that you know force awakens is
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heads and shoulders a better than than
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the prequels but still it gives you know
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it gives me hope that no matter what a
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generation of children will come away
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being like Star Wars is part of our life
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four stars as part of our blood will
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pick it up you know from from the new
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generation so to speak
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you're right about when we can be done
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John mentioned that there is definitely
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an aspect of the of the fanfiction thing
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and we want though the Doctor Who
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rebooted but at the same time it was
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fans who understood why they were fans
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and when they when they perhaps even
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though they were also world-class TV
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writers when they would slip and put in
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things that work basically fanservice
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you know uh no giving fans what fans
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want is not always the worst thing in
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the world especially if you're trying to
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revive a fandom that has been on hard
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times and Doctor Who fandom certainly
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was and when I look at the when I go to
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that doctor convention in LA every year
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good lord it is young now in a way that
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it was not even five years ago and um
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rebooted fandom where it's not just the
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die hard to remember it from the
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eighties it is brand-new people who love
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it because of 2005 through 2015 and that
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is a that that's something that star
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wars strives for and you know aside from
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the marketing blitz which is there and
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the TV shows which are there in the end
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you know if if they do their job right
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then this movie will capture the
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imagination of kids in a similar way at
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least then it captured our imaginations
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as kids I would think you're getting
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back to what Dan said about sort of
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modern moviemaking sensibilities and
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definitely see that in the Star Trek
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like well there have been Star Trek
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movies but here stark movies with the
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new twist and they were made more like
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modern movies right and I think Star
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well if they just make a movie in the
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star wars universe in the style of
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modern moviemaking and it's a good movie
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and it's a good story and it's fun to
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watch and it is respectful of the
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the the setting a lot of hands John the
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characters and all that stuff now but
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like you come out and think it's fun but
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i think it's still possible especially
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now where john williams is still alive
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the all the all the original actors are
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still alive
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JJ did this one himself I think it's
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still possible to do kind of miyazaki's
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done because over so many years you know
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if you look at Miyazaki's early movies
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and you look like a spirited away versus
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like castle in the sky
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those movies are separated by many years
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that nothing to do with each other
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really they just made by the same studio
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one of them does look older than the
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other one but throughout all of the
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studio ghibli movies of miyazaki's
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movies there is something there is that
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something that intangible quality of the
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movie that makes you think this is a
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miyazaki movie that is just as magical
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now as it was then and I think there is
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an equivalent of that for Star Wars
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there is there is a certain star wars
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magic that's a combination of you know
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sort of adventure good-natured optimism
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excitement I maybe a little bit of
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novelty but like I don't even think you
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need like oh these amazing special
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effects like miyazaki again and again
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made a movie that you're like there
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there's just something magical about
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this movie and even though it has no
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relation to those other movies and those
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other movies could not exist at all and
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I would watch this one in isolation and
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say there's something about this movie I
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feel like there's something about Star
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Wars the prequels didn't have it all and
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I think it's possible to recapture that
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and have the movie Rigby raised above
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the level of all those just a fun movie
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set in the star wars universe i give
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like I think I feel better about this
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movie when more of them come out which
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is a weird thing to say but like when
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they do the movie where there were
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whatever the one they were doing what
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that's like off of the trilogy not like
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this movie and ecology films Yeah right
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there whatever they're doing the getting
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this thats our plans or whatever other
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stories they want to tell the universe
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those movies and they'll do their thing
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and I think I'll be more comfortable
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those but there is a certain weight of
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expectation oh this is a new trilogy
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with its gonna be you know seven eight
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and nine and seven eight nine can follow
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four five and six
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there's a lot of pressure there and i
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feel like these movies i will feel
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better about said
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Ben probably after it comes out maybe
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after nine different I mean because then
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I'll be like oh yeah it's not all hang
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on this one thing but I just really hope
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like if you're going to recapture that
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star wars magic it's not because the
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original people are doing in the same
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way then you have the miyazaki the magic
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is he was doing all the movies and he
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got better with age and and you know he
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put himself in those movies you can see
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he was still there
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I just want I just want a little bit of
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that magic in this movie before before
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it becomes impossible to get that magic
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and the movies have to become modern
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movies I don't think this has to be a
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modern we can make this can discovery
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recapture the magic kind of in the same
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way that you could say that last crusade
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even though it's a pale shadow raters
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Last Crusade captured some of that
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energy magic because a lot of the same
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people were involved and you can see ya
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couple moments that movie like all this
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is this is indeed this is Indiana Jones
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is this is the guy I know from Raiders I
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just want that in this but I think
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that's possible
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honestly I really do and and going back
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to clone wars i mean i-i think there are
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there moments of that of s star wars
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magic and clone wars and there are
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moments in in rebels that are that REM
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that make me reminisce Star Wars even
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without the original people and in a
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completely different medium i wanted the
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biggest sort of most telling factors and
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sort of this pre anticipation faces I've
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been going in mostly spoiler-free I've
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watched the trailers but I haven't
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really been seeking out spoilers or
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wanted to confirm any potential theories
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i have but i'll watch semi like mostly
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spoiler-free conversations with work
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with with Harrison Ford and with Carrie
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Fisher there if there are a couple
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interviews that they have done that are
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pretty much entirely spoiler-free and
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all they all they're doing the entire
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interview is grinning and being like
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it's really good it's really fun and
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that's not that not like I've seen I've
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seen Harrison have two drunks like her
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support have to drug seller movie where
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it's just like yes it's really good and
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you don't see his eyes light up it's
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just the this my like the fake fake sad
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smile that actors have to do when
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they're not passionately involved in a
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project but watching I think Harrison
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Ford in a dog suit on Jimmy Fallon a
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while a couple a couple month or two
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back and Carrie Fisher last week with
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her dog on I think good morning america
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and both of them seem to have such
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exuberant joy for the film in a way that
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I I feel like you don't see actors with
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this kind of passion for projects that
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they don't actually think are something
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special and and to have the original
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actors and especially Harrison Ford who
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is notoriously grumpy like he's the
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man's in his early seventies he doesn't
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have to he doesn't really have to show
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for movies he doesn't like anymore
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um to see both of them so excited about
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the release of this film and so excited
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about the screenings that they've seen
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that that fills me with that fills me
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with so much new hope
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aho of john i would say on there are
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some interesting opportunities here to
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recapture the magic in different ways
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i'm thinking of again to i'm going to
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bring up a doctor who think that the
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season finale of Doctor Who features
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i'll say asset that is a recreation of a
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unoriginal more or less doctor who set
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from the sixties and/or i'm reminded of
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life when Star Trek The Next Generation
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did that episode that we're Scotty we
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use a holodeck to make the original
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enterprise bridge like they're the road
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one movie next year which is about the
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ceiling of the Death Star plans that
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leads into into episode 4 into the
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original star wars film that's going to
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be interesting because art direction
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wise it can actually have to measure it
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it it will feel like and look like the
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original star wars in a way that this
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film doesn't need to and that's that's
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an interesting opportunity to tell a
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different kind of story too i mean it
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that that's a bit of artistic freedom
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that having these films that are not
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part of the main saga can can provide so
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i'm actually kinda interested in that
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I'm also interested in that what they're
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not doing at least at this point is
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making the whole film series and
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interconnected story like the Marvel
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stories and realizing that their star
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wars advantage here is that they've got
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this this long set of years to play with
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detective story make make one of them a
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make make a romantic comedy star wars
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them doesn't have to you know it doesn't
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new characters it's not really about you
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characters just like there's a certain
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magic of star wars in the same way I
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variation and yet through it all you
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there's something about it that it did
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regard you know even though you know the
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settings are the same and they're not
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the same time period there's no
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characters in common whatsoever you can
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feel it and that's what I want out of
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should lean on those things for for the
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feeling I wonder who ever is you know my
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surrogate in this movie I want to care
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about as much as I care about like Luke
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you know a character that i can connect
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with as much as Yoda or a villain as
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good as darth vader i mean this
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tolerance i know i obviously not going
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to get it all if it's just it's just
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nearly as good as the star trek movies
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will walk out and probably call it a win
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and then just look forward to for
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further movies in the universe but if
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they're going to capture recapture
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anything original star wars now is the
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time to do it please
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probably already seen the workers that
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having like AKA brain trust of of people
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rather than having it be this creator
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who can do whatever he wants would make
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disastrous as the prequels but you never
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never seen everything yet you have the
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this what's the plan right now and when
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you're thinking about do you when you
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seeing it
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do you plan to see it again have you
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already built in other times you're
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going to see it what is your what is
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your your plan for watching this movie
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ran what's what's your plan
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all right well here's the plan to see it
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thursday night with friends but I
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couldn't get into that screen so I'm
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going thursday night slightly before so
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i get to see it before all my friends
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which kind of is responsible for
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spoilers
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yeah I can shout i can go into the next
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theater as i finish that probably be
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like 30 minutes from the end be like
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that God ours
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yeah but I'm but yeah and I'm going
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again friday morning i think that's
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that's what I've heard is then we've
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bought a second round of tickets and
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chances are knowing me will probably go
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again and like monday because i need the
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weekend to like actually digest I see
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all of the ne ne pivotal movies and this
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is a bad habit from when I was a kid but
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like I'll see them three or four times
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mostly partially because i want to get
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sick of them even with super expensive
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movie tickets but part honestly a lot of
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its just enjoying the world building and
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enjoying the scenery and and everything
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that I didn't catch the first time
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because I'm you know your game in the oh
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my god new stuff in this franchise and I
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feel like Star Wars Star Wars is for me
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a special franchise in the way that like
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the MCU just simply isn't i'm not going
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to go see MCU movie 5 times but I will
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definitely see a Pixar movie two or
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three times and i will see a Star Wars
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movie two or three times even if it's
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terrible one
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John what's your plan something about
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will be seated so i think i think
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there's literally sitting behind me away
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from you guys from the from the 30
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minutes early if showing your joke but
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this is legit fear that I have for my
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mother most dangerous time is why i'm in
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the theater familiar but sauron to go
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into your clutter and other people are
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coming out and I don't want to see their
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faces or anything or anything they have
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to say i don't want to see hand motions
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I mean I'm glad I'm seeing Thursday
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because I really just need to see it so
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i can safely use the internet again
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right so yeah so thursday and you know
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just gonna go to work nor the internet
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theater watching and then I'll feel safe
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wife taking friday off work and we're
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just gonna go see it together and then
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on Saturday the whole family is going
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well that's the full so that's the full
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siracusa three-day extravaganza keep
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adding family members and these are all
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2d screenings by the way I want maybe on
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if I really like it on sunday i'll try
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and imax one or maybe the next weekend
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i'll stop trying imax one because I
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kind of interested to see it in and all
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the formats that it's going to be out in
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assuming it's any good like if I the
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third time i see it like you don't
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you'll know by then
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yeah Shirley Shirley says the man who
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saw phantom menace five times the
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theater surely you'll know about their
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time it's good i only saw episodes two
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and three one time in the house same
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same here
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dan what's your plan yes I too am going
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on Thursday later in the evening at
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sitting behind me which should be fun
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just get the commentary is really what
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I'm looking forward to I don't have any
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subsequent showing plans yet but I would
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not bet against seeing it again at some
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point that weekend and I was just
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discussing with some family members
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possibly going over the christmas break
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think that it will it will definitely be
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cynical times I like John if it is the
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end up being it's good i will probably
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consider an imax showing just because
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I'm curious to see how it looks on a
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giant screen for me it's a it is
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thursday evening with the family were
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all we're all going jamie has a we're
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going to the seven o'clock showing on
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the next day I'm it's too bad she's
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going to see Star Wars she said that for
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study after there is no study during
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Star Wars we're gonna go see Star Wars
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and i have no plans beyond that it's
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great how the movies open on the day
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before they actually open now I don't
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even get this midnight showing started
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like seven the previous day is like
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Christmas creep you know it's so here
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eventually like the really stable me
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nothing in the midnight showing of three
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days before I've seen Tuesday Tuesday
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showings for friday movie before in Los
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Angeles it does happen but you know in
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at night and then go home at three in
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the morning
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anybody remember dark knight the first
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the second Dark Knight movie the second
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Dark Knight movie where it was like what
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two and a half hours long and i didn't
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get home until four in the morning it
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showing and then went out to like ihop
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and dissected you type of movie until
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about 5am
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went back to my friends house slept for
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two hours woke up picked up Tony sent
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away from school if it's cool still
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because we were seniors I think or we
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were in freshman in college and then
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went and saw it again
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yeah that was um speaking of dark times
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sleep deprivation explains all they
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realized midnight showings is so much
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fun you can make even more money if you
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showed at 10pm and then I realized well
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we're going to 10pm you can also show at
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why not what its gonna be like JJ Abrams
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is a market for people to go out and see
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him a big movie on thursday and then why
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would you hold it for friday at that
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point why not why not extend the weekend
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another day and make money on thursday
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evening at least buy you know I think
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hey if the customers are there then take
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advantage of it so I know so many people
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who are seeing this on thursday that was
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pretty funny i think i was just 3d which
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I'm not thrilled about but you know
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whatever where were we're going to see
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it and hope Jamie gets a good score on
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her finals
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Jason what I'm what theater are you
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seeing it in i'm seeing it as the
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century corte madera which is a single
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screen movie theater which they're
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probably going to close the next
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surprisingly playing star wars are only
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movie for that the screen
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ya welcome that that that is the thing
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that they do is they tend to put the big
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the big you know blockbuster film on
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that one screen with the big with the
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big screen and legend has it this is the
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George Lucas's preferred movie theater
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so i hope it doesn't ruin it by like I
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don't know what he stands up in the
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middle of a movie about how my mommy
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tell you what my outline said it was
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going to get pictures of the circular so
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the next question is well how we gonna
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how are we gonna find time to talk about
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this on the podcast next weekend we're
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going to find the time we're going to
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find some time we're gonna do it we're
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going to do it somehow
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all right i mean i-i literally in the
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incomparable schedule it just says OMG
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star wars on that next weekend and that
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the following weekend it literally says
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OMG more star wars because I figure
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we'll probably have more than one
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episode worth between all of us and
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everybody else in the incomparable
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panelist calendar who is also
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going to see it so you know i do think
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that we're gonna we're gonna have a lot
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of opportunity to break it down a great
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time to announce our new star wars
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sub-caste yeah well there is a feed full
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of everything that the network posts
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about Star Wars so I'm sure climb and
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I'm sure Joe and dan will be doing a
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defocused about it since they've been
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covering all the Star Wars movies on d
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focus lately too but yeah this is yeah
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we we don't need a sub caste dan it's
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all star wars now the resident December
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practically incomparable has just become
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the incomparable Star Wars channel it
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did you realize that I'm Star Wars
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awakens comes out essentially a week
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before christmas day we are literally
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getting Christmas early actually I it
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kind of bugs me that it's so close to
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Christmas I'd hoped you know and some of
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that is just podcast scheduling like
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okay I wish we had more easy AJ more
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weeks you get re ballon d'or Christmas
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but instead it's just like it's right
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before Christmas
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it's right there although you know what
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if they done the previous week then it
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would have been on my birthday and I
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can't handle the star wars movie
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potentially being bad on my birthday
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would just be awful
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this is going to be interesting we've
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invested a lot I mean all the given that
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we were talking about this three years
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ago in you know zero information terms
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at that point just that Lucasfilm had
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bought or I had been bought by disney
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and that there was going to be a new
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trilogy which blew our minds but it you
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know it's come to this which is there is
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a movie we have plans we have tickets
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bought way in advance which is also kind
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of hilarious and it's a it's gonna be a
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real thing that's uh so I'll just sounds
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harken back to one of my cousin's
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telling me that she remembered being in
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school and worrying that you know after
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watching empire that she would die
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before the Jedi came out so everybody
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stay safe out there this because all I'm
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saying that's the same topic came up on
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a recent podcast i was on tonight
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the same thought yeah take no chances
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this week people if you're gonna go
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skydiving put it off just a week
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well I hope I don't break my neck and
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roller derby this weekend that would be
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well wheel you into the theater don't
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worry I mean yeah the the roller derby
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tournament is called state wars and its
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star wars-themed so you know maybe maybe
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you'll be okay maybe the star wars God's
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will be looking over but yeah i'm
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probably doing too many dangerous things
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this week
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oh well it'll be okay don't know yeah
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yeah don't yeah I'm sure I'm sure we'll
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be fine
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I've got BBA to protect me 20 yeah we
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put a lot of we put a lot of effort into
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this movie so we need to see it now
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yeah but I've decided not to go
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well i should i should say speaking of
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pretty anticipation
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um if you end up it disneyland or disney
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world before you see the movie
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do not go on Star Tours this is this is
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something i discovered and it doesn't
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spoil a whole lot but it definitely is
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like oh this is a new thing this is a
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new and interesting thing that probably
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I shouldn't be seeing right now oh well
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so yeah John I don't think you have any
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plans to go to start to to disneyland
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before seeing the force awakens but you
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know just in case you were thinking of
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like a quick trip down to Florida or
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California just don't do it probably
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about yeah probably just apparently and
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by the only reason I went on Star Tours
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was because you raved about it so much
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and so i figured i'm going to try to
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brave the motion sickness but I could
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end up closing my eyes for a lot of oh
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yeah just as that's a rough ride for me
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but I didn't want to i will probably
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never do it again I'm am looking forward
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to eventually going back to disney after
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they do the whole crazy Star Wars land
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whatever yeah and that's that that's a
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great dick there already
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I think they're already constructing
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they're tearing down the but they were
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tearing animal at Disneyland
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yeah am they took down a bunch of
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disneyland everything's space mountain
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to hyperspace mountain in disneyland
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proper and disney world they they
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basically cordon off a whole section of
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hollywood studios they actually we were
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one day off from seeing the star wars
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launch Bay experience we just timed our
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tickets and properly but on the day that
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I was leaving
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something on Twitter actually messaged
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me and was like you know i would say
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that you guys just missed this being
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here but i'm just in line and I've
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already seen three major spoilers so
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perhaps it was good that you you know
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narrowly missed it was like okay yeah
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they think
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thank you and i miss Twitter person for
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a plotting our are good decisions
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yeah but I the idea of a whole star
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wars-themed part of disneyland that's a
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good idea i think people need to get
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such a good i guess people get such a
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kick out of like the stormtroopers in
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near near the star tours section of of
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disneyland that that will be on the that
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will be a lot of fun but because the
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thing that makes me really excited about
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that is like a few years ago I guess few
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more than a few years ago wanted Wally
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come out 2007-8 something like that they
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had a Wally rolling around in 2008 wet
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disneyland and I'm like the the wally
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was in like a small area and didn't
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really go very far but I'm like you have
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a Wally you have a tiny proof-of-concept
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bb-8 I've seen the real life version
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proof-of-concept bb-8 the concept of
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droids autonomously rolling around
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disney world and disneyland is not out
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of the question and that thrills me
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especially given disney's history with
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really really good
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automatic design like one of the reasons
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why i want to go to someplace like harry
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potter land is the thematics like I
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don't even care about the rights I just
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care about
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oh I'm gonna walk into a section of the
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park and all of a sudden it feels like
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i'm in i'm in harry potter story or all
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of a sudden it feels like I'm on a rebel
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base or you know I'm in the jungle on
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ready to join a Jedi Temple like all of
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these that the potential of that is so
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exciting to me so exciting
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see there's always more to anticipate
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isn't there always always more spoilers
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to avoid yeah that's right so many
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spoilers there are always new spoilers
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being always in motion the spoilers are
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see I can occasionally reference every
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now and then I do it all right well uh
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everybody get your
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you know get ready get ready get your
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get your starter shoes on I don't know
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what those would be put on your on your
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Jedi hat i'll go by those
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three-hundred-dollar boots that Ray is
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wearing in the trailer
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alright well everybody out there i hope
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you to stay safe in this week of
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anticipation don't do anything foolish
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because you need we need you to be there
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at the at the Star Wars premieres two
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and then we will we'll be back here at
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some point next weekend with some cast
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of characters hopefully this one and
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we'll break down at least our initial
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impressions about it i feel like you
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know what will i will have some
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impressions about it and that and and
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that that will be exciting and then
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we'll have another week maybe that to
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put thoughts together in a simple of
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some other panels and talk about it too
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so much more star wars to come in for
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the rest of the month but uh until then
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i would like to thank my stars pals have
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been on this episode 7 journey with me
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the last three-plus years now good Lord
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and more'n thank you i guess the force
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is still with us at least for now
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John siracusa thanks very much no
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spoilers Jason no spoilers and certainly
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called well thank you thank you and may
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the force be with you all
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beep boop that's droid for something
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that won't even know thanks everyone for
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listening
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that's what it's for pp-put poop and
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we'll see you next week
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