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00:00:45   welcome back everybody to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47   uncomfortable i'm your host Jason Snell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   it's finally here after many years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/49">TS</a>]

00:00:52   many podcasts devoted to a film that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/52">TS</a>]

00:00:55   not yet opened and that we had not yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/55">TS</a>]

00:00:57   seen it has opened and we have seen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/57">TS</a>]

00:01:00   and so in the first of our perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/60">TS</a>]

00:01:03   endless series of episodes about star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/63">TS</a>]

00:01:05   wars the force awakens i am joined by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/65">TS</a>]

00:01:08   three people who with who I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10   talking about this film since before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12   had a name or a director but Dad more'n [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/72">TS</a>]

00:01:17   hello doctors doctors you it's hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/77">TS</a>]

00:01:21   tell the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23   also joining me of course serenity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25   Caldwell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/85">TS</a>]

00:01:26   hello droid please people group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/86">TS</a>]

00:01:31   and uh and also here I wouldn't do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/91">TS</a>]

00:01:34   without John siracusa hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/94">TS</a>]

00:01:37   you know we start working always don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/97">TS</a>]

00:01:38   need a director named they just need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/98">TS</a>]

00:01:40   number that's the number for us to hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/100">TS</a>]

00:01:42   our hat on a Roman numeral that's all we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/102">TS</a>]

00:01:45   need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/105">TS</a>]

00:01:45   where the Roman numerals a long time ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/105">TS</a>]

00:01:48   in a galaxy far far away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/108">TS</a>]

00:01:49   let's ponder how they weren't there not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/109">TS</a>]

00:01:51   in the movie they're only in the crawl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   the crawl is written by people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55   the crawlers canonical jason i wanna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   hear another word to crawl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/117">TS</a>]

00:01:58   yeah but it's not from a galaxy far far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00   away it's the cross for us anyway that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/120">TS</a>]

00:02:02   is to existential that will be another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04   episode that will do probably next like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06   thursday so anybody have any opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/126">TS</a>]

00:02:09   statements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/129">TS</a>]

00:02:10   John yeah Ren anybody I I'm with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/130">TS</a>]

00:02:15   opening statements box is open now who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/135">TS</a>]

00:02:18   would like to give a statement i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/138">TS</a>]

00:02:20   give a statement alright so I my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/140">TS</a>]

00:02:24   statement is just it's a Star Wars movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/144">TS</a>]

00:02:27   guys huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29   it is a movie without going into details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/149">TS</a>]

00:02:33   will go and very shortly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/153">TS</a>]

00:02:34   it is a film that feels like it belongs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/154">TS</a>]

00:02:37   in the star wars universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   it made me feel like I was watching star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41   wars the entire time i had the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/161">TS</a>]

00:02:44   stupid grin as i do when i watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   original trilogy it feels it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/166">TS</a>]

00:02:50   a Star Wars movie and that was the that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/170">TS</a>]

00:02:53   was my number one criteria going in is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/173">TS</a>]

00:02:55   that it i wanted it to feel like a star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/175">TS</a>]

00:02:57   wars we didn't have to be beautiful it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59   didn't have to be perfect but i wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   to have that energy and I on that it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/181">TS</a>]

00:03:04   fulfilled i agree i was i was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/184">TS</a>]

00:03:07   this is sort of people like the prequels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09   are gonna hate this but the first Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/189">TS</a>]

00:03:11   Wars movie in 32 years John do you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/191">TS</a>]

00:03:14   an opening statement i do I was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16   dang go first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/196">TS</a>]

00:03:17   alright i can do you have anything skin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/197">TS</a>]

00:03:19   which is a shorter I don't even know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/199">TS</a>]

00:03:21   not i like to make mine up on the spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23   that's that's been the trend lately so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25   now are now i'm doing that's where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   got the last get the last spot know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/207">TS</a>]

00:03:28   is an instigator of you opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   statements you get that you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/210">TS</a>]

00:03:31   coveted findings dieter that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/211">TS</a>]

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00:03:39   podcasting do again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/219">TS</a>]

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00:03:44   dance phone and what would you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46   would you like to say i would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48   say that I i really i really enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/228">TS</a>]

00:03:53   this movie and I agree that you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/233">TS</a>]

00:03:54   the first time in decades it's a did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/234">TS</a>]

00:03:56   feel like I was watching a Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/236">TS</a>]

00:03:57   movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/237">TS</a>]

00:03:58   what I'm most fascinated by is this as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/238">TS</a>]

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00:04:06   franchise saga depending on how you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/246">TS</a>]

00:04:09   to call it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/249">TS</a>]

00:04:09   uh-huh having seen this movie I'm i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/249">TS</a>]

00:04:13   think there's too many choices which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/253">TS</a>]

00:04:14   will go into discussing but i think i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16   i'm actually really kind of jazz to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   what the rest of this trilogy looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/258">TS</a>]

00:04:21   knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/261">TS</a>]

00:04:22   yeah they've raised some very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/262">TS</a>]

00:04:23   interesting things but overall it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25   fun it's a lot i would argue it might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/265">TS</a>]

00:04:28   funnier than any other star wars movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30   intentionally sorry 99 the prequels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32   which are hilarious but i think it might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/272">TS</a>]

00:04:35   be the most intentionally funny of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/275">TS</a>]

00:04:37   star wars movies which I which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   weird feeling and most of all is weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/279">TS</a>]

00:04:42   to go into a brand new Star Wars movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44   that I've only seen once that was good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/284">TS</a>]

00:04:47   don't like that's just a weird feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/287">TS</a>]

00:04:50   you have right now but it's generally a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52   pleasing feeling John take it away huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/292">TS</a>]

00:04:56   yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/296">TS</a>]

00:04:57   alright so this is just we're recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59   this one day after seeing this movie for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/299">TS</a>]

00:05:02   the first time and a very long build-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/302">TS</a>]

00:05:04   i wish i was in the theater 24 hours ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/304">TS</a>]

00:05:07   right now watching it for the first oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/307">TS</a>]

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00:05:09   yep summer so it's kind of hard for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/309">TS</a>]

00:05:11   to get a handle on in terms of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/311">TS</a>]

00:05:12   grandiose opening statements that I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14   like prepared for years here and scamper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/314">TS</a>]

00:05:15   Empire Strikes Back you're never right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/315">TS</a>]

00:05:18   so just to give this couple head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/318">TS</a>]

00:05:19   counselor and and i'll give a longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21   like summary assessment I'm sure we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23   will of the of the movie at the end sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/323">TS</a>]

00:05:25   we've discussed all the spoilers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/325">TS</a>]

00:05:26   everything but if you want like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/326">TS</a>]

00:05:27   spoiler-free capsule review here's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29   I'd say the force awakens is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/329">TS</a>]

00:05:32   movie with many small problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34   none of which over overwhelm it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/334">TS</a>]

00:05:35   essential goodness I thought I keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37   coming back to which doesn't really make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/337">TS</a>]

00:05:39   any sense but it's stuck in my head is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/339">TS</a>]

00:05:40   the world is safe for Star Wars movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42   again huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/342">TS</a>]

00:05:43   the force awakens is just you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/343">TS</a>]

00:05:46   opening move it went in what will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48   steady stream of new movies in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50   universe it's respectful of its origins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52   it's competently made it opens far more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55   doors than it closes and it makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57   excited about Star Wars again and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/357">TS</a>]

00:05:58   could say what more could a star wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   fan a score well I could ask for a hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/360">TS</a>]

00:06:01   of a lot more but what we got is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/361">TS</a>]

00:06:04   good and I will love is my life I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/364">TS</a>]

00:06:07   have an opening statement but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/367">TS</a>]

00:06:08   actually very similar to John's which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10   I think I feel like this film had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/370">TS</a>]

00:06:12   couple of jobs that had to do because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/372">TS</a>]

00:06:13   yes it's a work of art in there acting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15   and current crafts that are involved but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/375">TS</a>]

00:06:18   it's also the first film release from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/378">TS</a>]

00:06:22   disney after buying Lucasfilm for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/382">TS</a>]

00:06:26   billions of dollars so it has to do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/386">TS</a>]

00:06:28   think two jobs one of the jobs is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/388">TS</a>]

00:06:31   needs to feel like Star Wars and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   people like Star Wars movies again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35   make them feel like they did when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37   original Star Wars movies were were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/397">TS</a>]

00:06:40   released it needs to have that star wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   eNOS about it right and job number two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/402">TS</a>]

00:06:45   is it needs to set this thing up as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47   ongoing venture so it needs to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/407">TS</a>]

00:06:49   backward and tie into the past but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51   build up for the future and those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/411">TS</a>]

00:06:55   tricky and you do too much one and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/415">TS</a>]

00:06:57   a nostalgia trip and not much more you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   do too much of the other and you leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/419">TS</a>]

00:07:00   maybe the existing fanbase waiting by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/420">TS</a>]

00:07:03   the door and what I would say about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06   before we blow this boiler horn is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08   did both jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/428">TS</a>]

00:07:09   it did the job that needed to do and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11   result is a movie that was extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/431">TS</a>]

00:07:12   enjoyable I liked it a lot but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14   impressed by the fact that managed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/434">TS</a>]

00:07:15   walk that line between being a fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/435">TS</a>]

00:07:18   service for the people who love Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   Wars know it by heart and leaving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/440">TS</a>]

00:07:23   story at a point where you're thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   more about the future than the past for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/445">TS</a>]

00:07:27   maybe the first time since returned to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   the Jedi came out so that's my opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/449">TS</a>]

00:07:32   statement should we fire off the spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/452">TS</a>]

00:07:33   horn now for the other moms know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   nobody wants to diagnose Oilers let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/455">TS</a>]

00:07:39   just pretend we can talk about education [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41   more let's talk about that they had no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43   let's talk let's analyze that trailer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45   now that we've seen the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/465">TS</a>]

00:07:46   again trailer conducted do you like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48   trailer John not inside that trailer was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50   awesome so glad and watching but boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   that was a good travel trailer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54   yeah it was it was I can't watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   movie again and help us watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/476">TS</a>]

00:07:57   trailer again it's pretty good pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   good trailer pretty good trail right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01   here it goes were firing up the spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/481">TS</a>]

00:08:02   horn if you have not seen don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04   this is possible are you listening this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06   force awakens don't listen any further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08   unless you're a bad person who likes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10   spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/490">TS</a>]

00:08:15   alright Luke Skywalker has vanished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/495">TS</a>]

00:08:19   luton guy Locker has its and a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/499">TS</a>]

00:08:22   excited by the way because that was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24   of those tidbits that had somehow made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   its way into my conscience there was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/506">TS</a>]

00:08:27   this like where's Luke stop mark hamill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29   tweeted a great picture of him reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   USA Today that had like a story where's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33   Luke and it's like him peeking over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/513">TS</a>]

00:08:34   paper I i saw that picture and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/514">TS</a>]

00:08:37   how it managed not to spoil me was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39   because I thought the whole like me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/519">TS</a>]

00:08:41   after I quickly scroll past it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   idea that hey he's not in the poster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45   he's not in the trailer and if you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47   there holding him back as you know JJ's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49   all about like withholding that's what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/529">TS</a>]

00:08:50   thought it was about like oh you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   going to see him to get to see the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/532">TS</a>]

00:08:53   movie haha true that's it it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/533">TS</a>]

00:08:57   little bit of both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/537">TS</a>]

00:08:58   it's not a gets as much teasing as it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/538">TS</a>]

00:09:01   actually yeah i think i had heard rumors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   about the fact that as a character he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05   supposedly missing at this point in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07   or maybe I'd stumbled across the legal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09   action and so no idea about that but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11   love like the the opening of the scroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13   at how else could you better open the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15   scroll because he is the one most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/555">TS</a>]

00:09:16   appease the most important character in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18   the Star Wars right right like yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20   and the first sentences he has vanished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   like well there you got steaks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24   immediately is making and it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26   good from the perspective of feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/566">TS</a>]

00:09:27   like worrying i was going to be spoiled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/567">TS</a>]

00:09:28   to be like oh that's right up front I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30   feel good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/570">TS</a>]

00:09:31   quickly learned that much that's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/571">TS</a>]

00:09:32   okay we're starting their right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   you're already you're already invested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/574">TS</a>]

00:09:35   in that because you care that looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/575">TS</a>]

00:09:36   our has vanished why would you not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   know exactly what is he had three movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/578">TS</a>]

00:09:39   and he's like super important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/579">TS</a>]

00:09:41   yeah yeah it's much better than some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/581">TS</a>]

00:09:44   the other calls and we could talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/584">TS</a>]

00:09:45   know it's great it's the first sensible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/585">TS</a>]

00:09:46   girl guys you know who's there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/586">TS</a>]

00:09:49   trade disputes in the cross no it'sit's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51   I i was struck by that while we're star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/591">TS</a>]

00:09:54   afterward Lauren told me that she she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/594">TS</a>]

00:09:56   had that moment when she was sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58   there and I'm sure we all had this at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/598">TS</a>]

00:09:59   some point in the movie where you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/599">TS</a>]

00:10:00   like for her was I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/600">TS</a>]

00:10:03   next words are going to be like as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/603">TS</a>]

00:10:04   said episode 7 she's like wow I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/604">TS</a>]

00:10:07   know what's in the crawl which is a and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/607">TS</a>]

00:10:09   for me it was I don't know what what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/609">TS</a>]

00:10:12   going to what we're going to see when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/612">TS</a>]

00:10:13   the crawl is over and we pan down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/613">TS</a>]

00:10:16   famously as you doing all the Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/616">TS</a>]

00:10:17   movies anymore anything more about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/617">TS</a>]

00:10:20   crawl i get to see the infinity that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/620">TS</a>]

00:10:23   the first sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25   somewhat problematic issue is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/625">TS</a>]

00:10:29   one thing that I feel like this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/629">TS</a>]

00:10:30   doesn't have a good hand on is the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   sort of galactic politicals didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   situation because like there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   republic not politics for you ate it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/636">TS</a>]

00:10:39   yeah I need some trade negotiations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/639">TS</a>]

00:10:40   please no Senate chamber there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/640">TS</a>]

00:10:42   republic but its backing a resistance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/642">TS</a>]

00:10:45   that is like separately banking areas in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/645">TS</a>]

00:10:48   the area but it see it that's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/648">TS</a>]

00:10:52   up it ends up being kind of weirdly a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/652">TS</a>]

00:10:55   point but also not really a point very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/655">TS</a>]

00:10:59   odd it's a brand-new yeah i mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01   movie did not spend a lot of time on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   i am sure that there were scenes at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05   point that were cut but regardless i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/665">TS</a>]

00:11:08   don't think that it made that much of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10   difference in the plot it just for those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   of us who like lots and lots of little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   world-building tidbits and I cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/674">TS</a>]

00:11:17   believe we're complaining about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/677">TS</a>]

00:11:18   government after complaining for three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/678">TS</a>]

00:11:21   episodes about how the prequel focus too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   much on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/683">TS</a>]

00:11:24   I but i think that the amount of hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/684">TS</a>]

00:11:27   waving there is actually all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29   especially I'm trying to put myself back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/689">TS</a>]

00:11:32   in the mindset of original trilogy right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/692">TS</a>]

00:11:35   where when we didn't have Empire and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/695">TS</a>]

00:11:38   didn't have Jedi as like these are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40   things that come next and we know about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42   this and I'm like does the does the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/702">TS</a>]

00:11:46   political situation makes sense in in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/706">TS</a>]

00:11:49   new hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/709">TS</a>]

00:11:50   yeah i mean they talked a lot about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52   Galactic Senate the Senate not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54   there any more than there are things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/714">TS</a>]

00:11:57   there's a Rebel Alliance despite the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59   fact that there's a Senate like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   there's some stuff there that I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/721">TS</a>]

00:12:03   like is not necessarily equally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/723">TS</a>]

00:12:05   confusing but I don't blame Abrams for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/725">TS</a>]

00:12:09   glossing over it especially because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11   got three movies of trade negotiations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13   like we might hear more about the geo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   political spectrum in the next movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   which would be okay or knowing ryan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/737">TS</a>]

00:12:20   Johnson MHP about characters and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   weird dream sequences and I'd be okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   with that too i think my point was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   than it could have I think it could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28   been simplified further I'm and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30   just adding a third party there with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/750">TS</a>]

00:12:33   Republic the first order and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/753">TS</a>]

00:12:34   resistance was just kind of a decision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36   for me again not enough to hamper any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38   my job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/758">TS</a>]

00:12:39   roll like liking of this movie overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41   it was just one of those things where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43   kind of took me out of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45   yeah my only my only reason for that for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/765">TS</a>]

00:12:50   for saying oh well it sort of makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   sense is there is a point in the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54   spoiler horn where the capital of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/774">TS</a>]

00:12:58   Republic is theoretically blown up yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00   and then that becomes a lot harder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/780">TS</a>]

00:13:03   explain if it's just the Republican the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05   first-order fighting each other because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07   that's like well the capital of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09   Republic was blown up but Prince land [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   and the general and her base was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/791">TS</a>]

00:13:14   blown up and there's other stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/794">TS</a>]

00:13:16   there was the majority of the fleet was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18   blown up but also not this fleet so why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20   why weren't they on that like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22   there there are potential plot holes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/802">TS</a>]

00:13:24   there that i think would also be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/804">TS</a>]

00:13:25   confusing from a different angle the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/805">TS</a>]

00:13:27   long answer I guess the short answer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29   they wanted to reset back to like know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   there's a scary big first order and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33   tiny bit of scrap long as it's like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/813">TS</a>]

00:13:35   said they needed something for the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/815">TS</a>]

00:13:36   weapon to hit the Republicans and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   is a target which is a problem i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   later in the movie the whole Republic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   it's like well you know we don't explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/822">TS</a>]

00:13:43   too much better probably just don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/823">TS</a>]

00:13:44   too attached to their companies because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/824">TS</a>]

00:13:45   yeah just wait about 55 minutes and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/825">TS</a>]

00:13:48   the Republican but but on the other hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50   if there's no Republic what the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/830">TS</a>]

00:13:51   does a superhit they don't even know at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53   that point where the resistance is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/833">TS</a>]

00:13:54   well we know where the Republic planets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   are we could take them out and so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   that structurally little problem but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   think you're right that eventually it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/840">TS</a>]

00:14:01   like we wanted we want to reset to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/841">TS</a>]

00:14:04   scrappy factions because that's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/844">TS</a>]

00:14:07   that's more exciting and that's why it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/847">TS</a>]

00:14:08   kind of doesn't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   um because in the end when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/850">TS</a>]

00:14:13   watching a movie you can revert to star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15   wars terms which is there a storm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   troopers flying those ships and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   bad and then there are the rebels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/859">TS</a>]

00:14:22   essentially flying be ships and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   good and the other details kind of don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/864">TS</a>]

00:14:27   matter even though and perhaps or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/867">TS</a>]

00:14:30   business for ancillary materials but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/870">TS</a>]

00:14:32   agree that if you think about it it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/872">TS</a>]

00:14:33   little distracting and the reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35   it's still in there is exactly what John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/875">TS</a>]

00:14:36   said it's like you you need to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/876">TS</a>]

00:14:37   something to be threatened and the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/877">TS</a>]

00:14:41   know the Alderaan proxy in this story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/881">TS</a>]

00:14:44   the the the home planets of the of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/884">TS</a>]

00:14:47   of this Republic but i think if you look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49   at the insulating material they talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   about a little more the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/891">TS</a>]

00:14:52   it was a you know after Return of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54   Jedi the galaxy kind of got carved into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/894">TS</a>]

00:14:57   where there are places where the Empire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/897">TS</a>]

00:14:58   sort of still held sway and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00   places where the where the Republic kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   of took it back over and then the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/902">TS</a>]

00:15:04   order is sort of a a a movement that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/904">TS</a>]

00:15:06   trying to integrate yeah that's trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/906">TS</a>]

00:15:08   to take over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10   you know it's like a it's almost like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/910">TS</a>]

00:15:12   dark jedi sith like splinter group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/912">TS</a>]

00:15:16   trying to reassert the power of the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/916">TS</a>]

00:15:18   Empire and so it's kind of a four-party [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20   content which is which is super again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22   which is I'm glad that's not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24   talked about a lot in the movie yes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   my politics i feel like i got done with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   a sentence or two here there but again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/928">TS</a>]

00:15:29   fairly minor a pic and I I just think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/929">TS</a>]

00:15:32   back to some of our earlier podcasts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34   like theorizing what's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   please see ancillary materials we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   provided a pending Tom about like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41   well what has happened since like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   because it's so hard to mop up all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/943">TS</a>]

00:15:44   like remaining empire after the death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46   star has gone right like it just give up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48   right and so I i guess i was looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/948">TS</a>]

00:15:50   forward to a little bit of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/950">TS</a>]

00:15:51   explanation of like what what the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53   happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/953">TS</a>]

00:15:54   well this isn't about opening more doors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56   than it closes though because like sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/956">TS</a>]

00:15:58   when you watch this movie but what my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/958">TS</a>]

00:16:00   wife said well I thought it as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/960">TS</a>]

00:16:02   like they can have prequel to these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04   groceries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/964">TS</a>]

00:16:05   yeah and movies are set up for people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/965">TS</a>]

00:16:06   like this happens after Return of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/966">TS</a>]

00:16:08   Jedi it's like yeah but with enough room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/968">TS</a>]

00:16:10   between where you can have prequels to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12   be like oh I want to see the bottle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   the battle of jakku and understand what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   the whole you know like you can a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/976">TS</a>]

00:16:17   standalone you can have standalone such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19   and I think that's where a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   bad books and comics are sorry seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/981">TS</a>]

00:16:24   really in this in this in this open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/984">TS</a>]

00:16:26   space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/986">TS</a>]

00:16:26   yes there's a crawl and it has lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/986">TS</a>]

00:16:29   politics in it that are very much like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   okay politics anyway let's let's move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/991">TS</a>]

00:16:34   to the movie and the movie takes us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/994">TS</a>]

00:16:36   this a shot of jakku which is a planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/996">TS</a>]

00:16:39   where there's a lot of garbage because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   there was a space battle there a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:42   time ago and the opening shot we get is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:45   of a galactic what is it like a Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:49   Destroyer that's a that's a in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51   silhouette and then you see the shit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53   yeah and then you see the ships coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:54   out of it and into the light and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:57   I thought that was a really clever image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1017">TS</a>]

00:17:01   that we haven't seen before in these in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   these star wars it's a very j [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   Abrams image it's similar to the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:08   that's right before the opening credits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:09   in Star Trek actually yeah and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:13   necessarily think that's a bad thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15   it's a it's a very different angle that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:18   we've got none star was open and crawls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20   before and I'd I was a little thrown out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22   of it I'm like wait a second there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24   two planets and we're coming from below [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:25   oh ok it's out it's a nice it's a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:30   way I think of entering this universe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:32   saying like this is a Star Wars film but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:34   also this is very much JJ Abrams is star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:38   wars film this is an honor this is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:40   parent star wars hell yeah we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:43   to we're going to have dimensions guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:44   time for a brief break let me send you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:48   message from our good friends at cards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:49   against humanity it is an honor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:52   privilege for us at cards against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:54   humanity response to this very special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:55   episode of the incomparable at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57   of recording we have not actually seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59   the new Star Wars movie but we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:00   send our congratulations on a wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02   film that is sure to become an instant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:04   classic our condolences on the death of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06   a film franchise that meant so much to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08   us as kids or are middling satisfaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:11   at a safe reboot that met the bare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:12   minimum of our own insane expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:15   we were either impressed the JJ Abrams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   was able to show us inventive new worlds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19   and characters or we were really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   disappointed to see Disney strip-mine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:23   all the remaining your way out of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:24   bunch of tired old tropes at least the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26   visual effects were either incredible or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:28   just okay this movie either made us feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:31   like kids again or ruined our childhoods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33   once and for all but either way we'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35   excited to hear about it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:36   uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:37   thanks to our friends at cards against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:40   humanity gonna say the first of what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:42   a sure to be many controversial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:43   statements of offering the prequels in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45   this podcast but i think that vo the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:50   opening crawl pan down and next like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:53   three to five seconds of film or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55   whatever of the prequels feel more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:58   traditional star wars than this one does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00   after this one is bad but I think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   right that it's like JJ putting his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:03   stamp on it but if you like what feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:06   like clip what feels like classic George [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:07   Lucas traditional star wars the pan down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:10   from the opening crawl in episodes 1 2 & [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   3 100-percent all feel exactly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:15   spike classic traditional rodeo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   trilogy Star Wars me this one did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   feel like that which is not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:20   a bad thing I think is going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22   theme for the entire movie i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:23   like that that what I talk about in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25   passing it has to feel like Star Wars is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   feeling like Star Wars like Ren said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:28   like oh this is a Star Wars movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30   it's feeling like Star Wars as in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32   feels like the original trilogy and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:35   don't think it has to work should feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:36   exactly like the original trilogy but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   really shows like you know it it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   wakes you up and you know the subsequent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   seeing that we will discuss with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:43   about to say this is star wars but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:46   not the star wars that you remember it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48   is not going to be yes so tied down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:51   the original trilogy mindset because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:54   seriously just go pull up episode 123 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:55   and watch the first seven seconds after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:58   the crawl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1198">TS</a>]

00:19:58   they feel so freaking star wars ii those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:01   sounds are such great Star Wars movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:02   if you only watch the first yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04   then stop and you know reject don't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:06   the chrome just that this part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:09   crawl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:09   yeah initial imagery yeah and i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:12   sure but visually speaking that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:13   most the the strongest thing there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15   lot of theaters are dark and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   get a lot of shadow detail and so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:18   not that big a fan of the particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:20   opening shot but that's it's a minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   detail i think the opening the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24   thing it is the opening set piece of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:26   know the stormtroopers and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:27   stuff again seemingly intentional move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:31   away from the way star wars were shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33   the things you normally see the subject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:36   matter we immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:37   Jason you mentioned earlier like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39   whole like there's bad guys and good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:40   guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41   these movies immediately go into gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   areas that none of the original trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:44   touched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:45   well the fact that stormtroopers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47   people with many other people people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:50   with Johnson feelings and who are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:53   to eventually be involved in the plot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:54   this movie in a non-trivial way as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:56   opposed to being you know either closed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58   or cookie cutter things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   yeah yep it's really interesting and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:03   he for me this is where the i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:07   going to call it necessarily a rewriting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   but the Limoges to New Hope start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:12   because UD even even from the from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:15   very beginning you've got the inversion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   of the Star Destroyer type type ship and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:21   then you immediately go into the hangar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:23   with with stormtroopers so instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25   seeing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:26   you know the people preparing for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   stormtrooper attack we actually get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:31   stormtroopers we get a close-up of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33   bunch of stormtroopers in a hangar as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:36   they're speeding down to the planet's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:37   surface which is as you guys are saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:41   it's like it's already such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:42   interesting subversion the idea that oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:45   yeah we're actually going to spend some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:46   time with with the troopers on a are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:50   like what we're going to spend a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52   micro-level interaction with the dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:56   side and the evil empire / first or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1316">TS</a>]

00:22:00   because of their I mean there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   been scenes with the darkside folks but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:07   it's never been it's never been personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   stuff unless it's the empire the emperor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   and Darth Vader it's always been kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:15   like yeah the Empire's this big giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17   glob Oh people and individualizing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:22   very quickly is fascinating especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24   as we get to jakku at an end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:28   individualizing also the infantry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   because I feel like an original trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:31   you spend some time with characters who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:32   had metals on their chests and they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34   you know minor personality traits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:36   you know boardroom squabbles and brushes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:39   with death while talking to Vader and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:40   various other things that they made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   major string but once you got down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44   the rank-and-file those movies were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46   interested in except for maybe did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:49   see the you know those two stormtroopers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:50   talking to each other about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:51   whatever-it-was in your spirits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:53   stuff in new help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:54   yeah but their droids yeah but this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:57   seems much more interested in making you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1377">TS</a>]

00:23:00   recognize that you know that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:03   everybody has their reasons even the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05   rank-and-file stormtroopers like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:06   they're so angry at finn later because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08   he's a traitor and that they have lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   lines they're not there they are go get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12   them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:13   blast them you know I mean like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:14   yeah that they're clearly people with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   feelings inside these suits and exercise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18   by saying we maybe have a clone army [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20   the interesting thing to me this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:22   where I think that the exploration into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:26   the universe in the clone wars animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   series and rebels actually has paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30   dividends in the main in the big star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:33   wars movies because I feel like clone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:36   wars to you know very specific extent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38   got into the lives of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   on infantry and you know all of that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:43   I it may be there are parts of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   movie that actually feel very much like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   animated series scenes to me and in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:50   great way in a like oh hey we've learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:53   from you know we've learned from our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55   past prequel mistakes and we have a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   idea of how to how to shade more gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:00   and how to show more about this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:03   that we have here 24 kind of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05   glossed over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:06   yeah it's kind of a shot across the bow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:07   is in some way to make the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09   have sort of individual personalities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:11   because it is becoming more you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   sort of like let's not worry too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:14   about you know clones even though i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   think i agree that the clone war series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   does do a fantastic job of turning those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20   individuals into characters you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:23   sort of the prequels never really dwell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:26   on that too much and I think also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:29   interestingly from the the stormtroopers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31   perspective you know you think back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33   the original trilogy and even though the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:34   stormtroopers as John mentioned like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36   couple times we catch them having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:37   conversations or what have you and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:38   seem to be distinct people different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:41   with different personalities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:42   it's telling that we never really see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:43   any without their armor on even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:46   like on Luke knock out the stormtroopers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:48   in the four in New Hope and take their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:50   armor we don't see like the trust up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52   around troopers right like we don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   faces you know we we have no idea those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56   are always going to be faceless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58   characters and accept while I mean with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:01   the exception really up in here like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:04   still don't really see much of my faces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:05   but there are different clearly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   different characters under the helmets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:08   there's men and women which is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10   nah not just as much like there's a part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:13   later we're like a stormtrooper who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15   reports to one of the other Imperials is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17   clearly a woman's voice is the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19   different body types as well like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:21   exactly guys you recognize that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:23   I recognize that God before with you at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   the ammo across his chest or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:26   you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:26   yep yeah so I mean that is it is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:29   interesting and it's a good way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:30   distinct like distinguishing itself from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:31   both the prequels and the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33   trilogy is I find this moment that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:35   actually reminded me of of the robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:38   chicken star wars where is the robot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   chicken star wars you know it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:41   about filling in the gaps between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43   scenes but things we assume about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:44   movies we've seen so many times and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:47   and and how normal people would react to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:48   that and there's a moment like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:50   kylo Ren is mad that that Ray has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:54   escaped and he's smashing up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   interrogation room and assume troopers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:58   come around the corner and hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   explosion that like slowly back away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:01   right oh my god because they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:04   they're not dumb they're like oh he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:05   having a tantrum we're gonna go they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:07   not you know they're not faceless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:08   nameless drones they may have only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   letters and numbers for their names but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12   they're you know they are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:13   individuals under there and they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15   be because Finn one of our main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   characters is actually a stormtrooper as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:20   we as we are about to find out it in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:22   notes here like I was trying to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:23   out how to break them up by like I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25   section that was like good decisions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:26   bad decisions and then I just like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:28   realize that just now down to good bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30   whatever any of the first bullet point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:31   in my good section is the general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:34   treatment of all characters as real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:35   people and it doesn't just include the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37   bad guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:38   old people are real people young people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40   men women bad guys good guys there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:43   monitoring distance which all complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   about in a bit but for the most part the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:48   movie is amazingly good at treating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   everybody as a character maybe not an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52   important character but there's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   nobody here who is categorically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   pigeonhole let's talk about jakku at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1616">TS</a>]

00:27:02   night we discover there's a conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:06   with its maximum Saito and oscar isaac [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:10   where maximum saito is handing over some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:13   information this is in in the the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:16   that this plot is sort of a remix of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:18   bunch of existing Star Wars plots this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   is the these are the Death Star plans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:21   this is the map to Luke Skywalker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:24   it's being handed over by Max von Sydow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26   who obviously has this this history with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:29   with Leia and the resistance and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31   got this information and he's passing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   on to Oscar Isaac who is powe Dameron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:36   her the best pilot in the resistance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:39   he's gonna he and his droid bb-8 are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:43   going to take it away and and go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:46   the resistance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:47   except of course the stormtroopers that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49   we just saw taking off they land and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:52   abet a big a big battle ensues we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:55   our first view of kylo Ren here who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:58   stops a a blaster blast in midair for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:02   while and then when you let go at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04   end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:04   it it continues its path he ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:07   taking podium ran back with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:10   we also we also meet a storm trooper who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:13   gets who sees one of his buddies get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15   killed and the blood from his buddy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:18   hand is on his helmet which helps us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20   identify which stormtrooper it is and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:23   he refuses to participate in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   slaughter of the of the village and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:28   obviously very disturbed and and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   participating to the point where we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   color and actually notices on his way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   back to to his shuttle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36   yeah i'm interested by that choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   because I i wondered at the time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   know i think i read very much into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   as some sort of possibly force related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:45   thing would be and and I I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:48   still left kind of unclear as of the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   of this movie whether or not that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52   true but it definitely because they talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:55   a little bit about you know he's thin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   later on in terms of his like how all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   the stormtroopers are conditioned and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01   programmed from a very early age he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:03   mentioned he was taken away from his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:04   family they never knew them and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:08   you're kind of left wondering like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:09   what why did he make this choice if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:12   they're also brainwashing condition like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:13   what triggered that in him was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:16   seeing you know one of his his other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   comrades die or is there something more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   going on is his first battle he says yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:23   it's not as if you know he's being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   exposed to this but it's true what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:26   him different and what is kylo Ren [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:29   noticing there just his lack of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:30   participation or is he noticing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:31   something else that is special about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:33   thin in that moment because he certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35   knows enough to know exactly what his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   his number his serial number is later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:40   when it's revealed that he has helped po [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   escape from the Star Destroyer a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:45   significant number incidentally his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   behavior was noteworthy like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   clear that he wasn't firing and his body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   language that's why we could identify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:52   him when he was too far away for us to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:54   see the red things we could identify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:55   based on its body language don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57   you need to read anything into that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59   just yet and also it sit there seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01   be a precedent in the first order of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:02   like sometimes it doesn't take with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:03   stormtroopers also previously had never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   had he demonstrated any non-compliant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:08   behavior before like it's a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:09   they watch for apparently so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11   it's not out of bounds of this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:12   happen that the training would always be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   a hundred percent so I think everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:15   can be explained in the universe in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17   movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:17   with him just being yet another one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:18   those guys that just happened to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20   guy who had non-compliant problems he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   was when he was sent down for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:23   reeducation like they have an HR policy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25   on it already like you know sending down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:26   with a reconditioning chamber check his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:29   weapon and yeah and it's ending boundary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   condition we can she said he was he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:34   a little more resourceful than the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:35   guys he had a pilot ready for him and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37   you know he got out and ended up being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:38   thorn in the side because he's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   he's different he's more adventurous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   than the other guys that said I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:43   you can also make a strong argument that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   a lot of the events that transpire in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47   this movie happened as things that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   be so this is one of the things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   thought was interesting compared to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:52   you know JJ star trek movie right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:55   first star chick movie i remember having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:56   complaints about how certain things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58   too coincidental Kirk crash land on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   planet that is the same planet old Spock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02   is on and you know in Star Trek that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:06   doesn't always fly because there's such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:08   a heavy influence in like science and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:09   reason and rationality thought and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:12   where's the star wars you do have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14   elements of the four so you i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:15   there is a potentially compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   argument in that these things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:18   happening to these people for reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20   that are being dictated by the forest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:23   the fact that they these characters meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:24   each other or the fact that they find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26   the morning fuckin not to jump too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:27   ahead but like the fact that Morsi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   awakening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:30   yeah exactly i think that is exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32   point of this my website that's not how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:33   the force works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:34   look don't get out of the ship because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:37   everything is because of the force is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39   great plot device because like its way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   later we had like flashbacks and flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:43   forwards like that is explicitly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45   explained exactly how the force works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:46   all you'll see the past and the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   and it's always in motion and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50   all great we can go with that is the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52   ultimate plot device in any kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   movie it's like free foreshadowing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   free backstory but but at some point you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:59   have to just say like you know these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:01   just people like a bit there's no the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03   force is not like fate right so I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05   worry is you know I mean that just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:06   think that's an open discussion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   well Finn is an open question we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:09   know I said I just think in this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:10   they weren't leaning heavily on any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12   hints to defend really like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:13   everyone can't be for sensitive you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   gotta lay off a little bit so we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:16   we'll see where the second movie goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:17   it's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:18   there's a good line here where we're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:22   programmer and says to kylo Ren which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24   one of us talk first who talks to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26   first hear that that was the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:28   break-in them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:29   movie like because it when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:30   starting this movie we got the craw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:31   we've got the little thing we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:33   some serious talk about the map looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   Skywalker we're concerned about where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:36   Luke is and everything like i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   always be royalty right and and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:41   don't know where you're going with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:42   yet right until they track him down in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:44   front of a no-collar endows all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:46   scary things that's cool lots of cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:47   battles and shooting bb-8 go to disco to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:50   that very serious that's the first break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52   in like cutting the tension and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:54   what the first character 22 joke to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:57   snarky do not take a situation seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   to use humor as a defense against a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:00   bad situation which is a tone that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:04   extremely prevalent in the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   trilogy and this huge stretches of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   prequels that are just straightforward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   and dour and serious and everyone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   talking about plot points and super deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   feelings and I was sorry master i forgot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   you didn't like flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:19   yeah it is but there's also it's also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   very modern sensibility as far as humor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   goes like I felt like this was a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   wine that you would see on like a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:26   like a Parks and Recreation speed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   commerce something like that which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:29   which is fine again I think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   lot of stuff in this movie that is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   well you can't make a movie with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   know even if its star wars and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:36   certain amount of time listens to it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:37   can't make a movie necessarily with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   sensibilities of 1977 or 90 80 that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   in 2015 it's just some stuff doesn't fly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:45   some stuff does but likey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   and so I felt like this sense of humor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   in this is snarky and stuff which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51   totally consistent but it even if L to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:54   leave in a little bit more not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:55   like break the fourth wall ridiculous in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   some ways but like and I liked it when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59   enjoyed it I laughed I I'd like I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01   up front this is I think the funniest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03   written star wars movie of all of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:04   and so I thought that was a way i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:07   not expect it i think that's the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   thing is like it was so snarky and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:12   kind of like self-referential in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   ways that it seems surprising and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:16   jarring but it was still hilarious but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:19   release tension to me because I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:20   a like it you know is this going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   like the prequels we're just basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24   in and it's as one is relying on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26   because you can be honest the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:27   moving be awesome like c The Godfather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29   right but you can be honest all movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:32   and just totally blow and so this ad is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:33   like yet source is filled with humor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35   like having just watch the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:36   trilogy leading up to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38   you just reminded of just it'sit's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:40   simpsons level joke per minute but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42   like it is not a scene that goes by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:44   without one good singer too good singer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46   since you can have just an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   opening sequence with nobody saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:51   like an end it humanizes the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   in it lets us know that it's not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55   to be it's not expecting you to be all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   dark and serious and greedy for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:58   whole thing that these are real people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2098">TS</a>]

00:34:59   that they're using humor as a defense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   and that things are things are less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   formal like they should be less formal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05   did the most formal is the Republican [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2105">TS</a>]

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00:35:11   chaos and garbage in factions and will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:13   be even more informal like it this pilot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   po of course he would be sarcastic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2115">TS</a>]

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00:35:26   alliance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:27   yes he's a roguish pilot for a for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:30   roguish or gonna sage right and some fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:33   backstory for people who have read some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35   of the tie-in novels and that comics is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2135">TS</a>]

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00:35:40   comic yeah that's right about shortly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2140">TS</a>]

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00:36:00   these characters having really beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2160">TS</a>]

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00:36:05   beings they feel like 3d 3d people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2165">TS</a>]

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00:36:25   become despite the fact that he has very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2185">TS</a>]

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00:36:30   time he doesn't feel like an archetype [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2190">TS</a>]

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00:36:44   making him a shaded person even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46   he doesn't have a ton of screen time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2206">TS</a>]

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00:37:10   strain and then we cut to kylo Ren [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2230">TS</a>]

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00:38:34   characters not archetypes the one the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   one danger you have these movies is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   people trying to do the the mapping oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:40   he's like Han Solo and that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:43   Luke Skywalker and that's a new Princess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:45   Leia and I thought it was a smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:47   decision to intentionally or not resist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:51   that straight mapping because you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   with poets like oh he's like the Han [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   Solo is the sarcastic you know guy who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:58   making quips and do it but he's not he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   so much more like Ernest and bouncy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:03   optimum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:03   stick and good-natured that but he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:06   the looky there because he doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:07   any for stuff and you you know he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:08   good pilot he's his own person like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10   keep trying to do the mapping is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:11   what you see more like looky now he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13   new character his name is powe this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15   what he's like and that comes through in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   his scenes and I felt like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:18   things they did want to emphasize the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20   ways that this is not your new Han Solo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:23   proxy this is not your new luck our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   proxy this is a new person and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   what this person is like this but his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:29   droid is like the street is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:30   like that was some refreshing I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32   that's a really good way of putting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34   because I felt like yeah I definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:35   was trying to do that in my head in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:37   ways it's going along and almost to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39   point of feeling like well it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:40   like a mix and match game but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:41   you you nailed you hit the nail on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:42   head would be you know these really are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2382">TS</a>]

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00:39:47   reminiscent of traits that we've know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:48   from other Star Wars characters or other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:51   characters in general that we have seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:53   in fiction but none of them are cookie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:55   cutters of previous character and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:58   especially especially him i think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2398">TS</a>]

00:39:59   could have been so close but a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:00   scenes that he's in his general like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:03   goofy good-natured optimism is so unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:06   Han Solo's like cynical worldview that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:09   all behind Solis's is just shaken out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:12   him he's just so happy to see that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:13   he's he's an idealist clearly to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2413">TS</a>]

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00:40:17   resistance period signifies that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2417">TS</a>]

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00:40:21   resistance crack cases like you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2421">TS</a>]

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00:40:44   more shots that had to be taken out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2444">TS</a>]

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00:40:53   viewings the entire bottom side of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2453">TS</a>]

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00:41:08   orifices I'm glad they didn't show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2468">TS</a>]

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00:41:21   god his face is completely you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:23   covered in geyser in blood that's oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:26   god this guy this guy doesn't mess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:28   around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2488">TS</a>]

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00:41:32   of them except for maybe a new hope and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34   then there's not there's not much blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2494">TS</a>]

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00:41:37   that they didn't they don't overdo it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2497">TS</a>]

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00:41:58   that is also am basically mechanically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2518">TS</a>]

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00:42:09   once in the movie that will become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   significant thing you have to become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:12   familiar with and also establishes him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14   as a scary president is a force choke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:15   him know you just stand there and stare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17   and now he's got the extended handling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19   and I wonder if like that was the actor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21   who came up with that it was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:22   script like his move is he extends his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   hand and puts us five fingers in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   of his face in a certain way and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:27   physically is like on like pulling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   thoughts out of your head and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:30   that's his thing like I can you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:33   it's kind of like you know an empathetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35   bond where like I can see what's in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:38   head and I could feel what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:39   feeling and is using it to you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41   evil ends to get information out of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:42   and it works it establishes this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   real thing and he's pretty good at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:45   kind of enjoys it in the super creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   that was all really good and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:50   just that one seeing this will this will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:51   become important later and it said just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   good solid storytelling and also to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   point earlier about that how not mapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:56   characters obviously this kylo Ren is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:59   meant to evoke darth vader and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:01   that becomes clearer and clearer as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:02   go along but it's also very clear from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   the beginning that he is not Darth Vader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   right i mean he's a lot of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:07   their scenes where he's like crouching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   down like the way he speaks it is these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:12   you know his speech patterns incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:15   different much as formalized for reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:16   that we will discover ya in on the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18   the the nitrate on jakku at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:21   when he says to take programmer and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:24   them in the shuttle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:25   he's like taking us or something so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:28   totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:28   lost off and I'm like no he's not he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   not speaking as Darth Vader when he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32   not it's not be more with whores voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   right god it's like it's very casual a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:37   lot of points and he has these moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:39   with a lot of the other characters even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:40   interrogation scenes or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:42   working speeches very colonial very fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44   and that's again it resists that define [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:47   because he's not the fader you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:48   India the darth vader fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:50   yeah he's a fanboy the key scene with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:53   with him is there's a scene where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   brought bad news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   bye-bye somebody who's wearing his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2637">TS</a>]

00:44:00   little outfit that's similar to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   outfits that the guys who brought Darth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04   Vader bad news right and the guy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06   totally expecting especially when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   turns his lightsaber on totally expected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10   to be chopped in half by kylo Ren and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:13   we're expecting him to be chopped in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:14   half by kylo Ren and what does he do he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   has a temper tantrum and smashes up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:19   tables and stuff and then he does choke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:22   the guy like 10 asked the well you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:23   any s is there anything else they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   well there was a girl to when he chokes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:26   him a little bit and then you let him he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28   lets him go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:29   so this is not Darth Vader right Darth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31   Vader was just like super cool customer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33   and had it all together when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:35   just gonna char the HR departments have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   this fight against joking their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   employees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:40   yeah first order is i still kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42   employees were they were very valuable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:44   you have a new policy on destroying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:46   equipment like maybe a special tantrum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   room it was like a good shot expensive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   consoles and you know that's the bridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:51   someone's gotta come in there and fix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:52   that no no but he's a bit that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:54   whole point with him and we learn as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56   learn more about him have he has he is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58   well he's a he's a baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00   he said he has he's a big baby and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   has temper tantrums and he's a he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:05   essentially a child with force powers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:08   who is being exploited poorly trained by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:11   by a very bad person is exploited badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:15   trained al indulged to do what sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:19   oil whatever he was he is spoiled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   and you know we learn more about that as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:23   a ghost but it's very clear from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:24   very beginning that he's you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   doesn't have it together he has he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   didn't have a nice little tidy office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:29   that he goes in with it takes his mask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   off yes he has he just freaks the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:34   out and lightsabers up a room from time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:38   to time it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:39   it's really going to New Hope where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   Vader had sort of a corporate competitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   like you know me like really where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   were in the boardroom and having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47   arguments and stuff but you know Vader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:48   had not yet emerged as the clear top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:51   the pyramid in the Imperial organization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:54   until conveniently the rest of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   blowing up and he tumbled away right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:57   really helped his career but this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   same thing kylo Ren you think well he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:01   the guy with 4th power surely he's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   charge but he's got his co-workers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   always in there undermining into his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:06   boss and yeah dirty looks and stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08   it's clear that like you maybe have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:09   force powers but like competency wise i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:12   mean it's a it's a pretty fair fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   here like they're both kind of a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:15   bit young and and fresh and brash but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:18   they have and they both have ambitions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20   his ambitions I want to be like Darth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:21   video guys ambition is maybe I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23   be like Hitler not quite sure what he'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25   do is don't mess with the weasleys yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27   yeah no you know um so before we move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:31   just one a couple quick things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:34   tone and just general set dressing sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:38   on the initial after that anit those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:41   initial few shots in space which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   very jabe rooms we get these beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:46   sets on jakku and this very it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:51   small in a in a way that star wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53   movies haven't felt in a long time where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:56   I mean I think one of the one of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58   downfalls of the prequels and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00   thinking about this the more than that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:01   after seeing the force awakens for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:04   second time and is you get sort of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06   these big giant gaping sets like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:09   huge palaces on Naboo you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:12   Galactic Senate on and even even on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:16   Tatooine was like let's do a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:17   podracing stadium what's not and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:20   with force awakens we're back to these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:21   very sort of small it almost intimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:24   sets that feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26   not not quite real in a in a weird they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:30   feel movie real they feel like they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   they're almost sets in there almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:33   reality and that really works for me for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:37   Star Wars this kind of this this slight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:40   off-putting feeling of this isn't a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:43   town or doesn't quite feel like a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45   town but at the same time it very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:48   sets the scene for what it needs to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50   fact that when bb-8 roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:52   the way you can see all of this action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:54   happening in the background and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   feels so lived in it feels authentic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2876">TS</a>]

00:48:01   the fact the fact that there's a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:02   know there's a revamped x-wing that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04   sitting there and huge and in I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:07   know there's there's tangible wait to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09   the opening few scenes which i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:12   is lovely even when they get to the Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   Destroyer type on type I ship it still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:19   has that sort of weedy lived-in feel on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:23   and the other thing in that in that vein [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:26   is I love i'm not sure ben burtt was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:29   holy and charger if he was in charge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   sound this go around but the modulation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:35   on adam drivers voice for kylo Ren is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37   perfect i love the fact that everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:40   feels compressed they did this wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:44   wonderful thing where they essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:47   just they suck all of the air out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:50   mix so you have this room tone and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:53   anytime he speaks it's almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:54   turning on am almost like turning on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:57   calm where there's this little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:59   fuzz and then all of a sudden all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:01   room tone goes away and then he has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03   slightly muffled short clipped speech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:08   and it instantly it it's it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:11   different as we were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13   earlier it's a very different style than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15   james earl jones it doesn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   booming i'm on a pretty you know i'm on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   a dais I am powerful Darth Vader and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:22   and it fits his temper tantrum kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:25   boy but the the fact that as well he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:29   speaking basically all the air just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:30   disappears and you just hear these quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:33   little short flip sentences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   it's every time he speaks it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:37   almost like a bullet in the scene just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:38   Bam Bam he had to send away to later fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:42   com to get that means it worked hard and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   I'd like because that's that's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:45   the big great payoffs later when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47   takes the helmet off the idea like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49   doesn't need the helmet but his hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:51   Darth Vader had the helmet so he sure as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53   hell want to helmet and he doesn't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55   something to change his voice product [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:56   Bader had one so he's going to check out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:58   better fan common look at the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2998">TS</a>]

00:49:59   modular they have it may be customized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   it to give him that sinister types and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:03   on your right like we had so many recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   movies where the bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:06   it was weird voices whether it's Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:07   with bein or Batman himself or any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:10   movement or someone tries to sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:11   sinister gravely and it's really easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:14   for it to go bad obviously Darth Vader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:16   is like the first the canonical like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:17   that defined his character they did such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19   a good job with essentially just james [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:21   earl jones booming voice and heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:22   breathing in between some little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   fuzz thrown in and that was it and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26   can just repeat that but you get a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   of mileage out of the fact that this it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   in universe in character is someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32   idolizes Darth Vader that of course is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:35   gonna try to do something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:36   everything you what you wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37   understandable and also sinister and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   think it's also important that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   Darth Vader himself that his out of mask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:44   voice differs substantially from his in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:47   mask was like when you get you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:49   helmet comes off in Jedi and and I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:50   talk and you're like oh he sounds so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52   different obviously it's a different guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:53   that picks but even if it's the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:54   accurate and garbage talking through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   fuzz and not talking with fuzz helmet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   off different you know different scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   different different vibe entirely yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:03   and into the point earlier point about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:05   CGI and you know like the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:08   there's actual tangible stuff here i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:09   think that this this takes the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:12   advantage of CGI and uses it in places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   where it is smart to do so and reduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:17   and provides a better product and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:19   doesn't apply in places where it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:21   need it and we're practical sets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:23   practical effects work much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:24   disagree with a few minor points will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:27   get to the bad section i think overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:31   they make good choices on on where to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   deploy that we're not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:34   universally perfect because they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   know i would love to have seen some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   characters that were more based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   puppets but I think unfortunately that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   just not the way that that is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:43   right now but it is nice that they the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:46   problem as we've all admitted the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   problem with a lot of the prequels is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:49   just the overabundance of CGI every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   single thing being fulfilled against a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   blue screen for the most part that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55   not done here it shows the direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   shows the dead that JJ was can talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59   actors too so you know even in his first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:02   10 minutes we're looking at something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   very very different no Emperor said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06   a a large part of the cgi for the non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   you know nan nan did like the onset cgi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:12   stuff was erasing wires and things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:17   they did a lot of practical stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:18   then the cgi was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:19   used to hide the controls for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   practical things i would say about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:24   and we should just talk about jakku more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26   generally because otherwise we'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28   here until morning i would say this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:31   very cool is a very Star Wars II kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:34   place and the i say that because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36   full of garbage and that is that is star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:39   wars to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:40   Star Wars to me like we see raise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42   apartment right where she's living and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:45   it's just bullcrap and she's got her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:48   x-wing doll x-wing pilot doll and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:52   got next wing blast helmet that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:53   wears at one point for fun and and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:57   a and she makes her little kind of bread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59   out of powder and and is grilling her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:02   meat on her about her Bochy or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:03   and you're like she's surrounded by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:06   technology what she does is scavenge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:08   technology and yet she's not living in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:11   shiny future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:12   she's living in the just the pits in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:15   terms of of her her standard of living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:19   she's going day-to-day and finding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:21   garbage and bringing it back for scraps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23   essentially and then we get the reveal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25   that she's literally living inside a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:28   wall of fallen walker that's okay and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:32   that is star wars to me is stuff like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34   the fact and then throughout the jacuzzi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36   scenes right down to the fact that at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   one point when the the two fighters are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:41   chasing the Millennium Falcon and Finn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   hits one of them and it crashes into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:44   into the sand the scavengers immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:47   run over to it to pick it up pick it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49   parts immediately because that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:52   you do on jakku because it is a garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:54   planet and the people who are surviving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:55   there are subsisting on picking through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:58   the wreckage of this space battle that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:00   was there 30 years before that's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:02   Star Wars to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:03   speaking of the scale thing that the non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05   kylo Ren said previously this the scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:08   that I think of like the tote to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:11   describe it is the even though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   different tone is the blue milk scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:15   their scene in which the scale things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:18   that are significant to the scene are at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:20   the level of blue milk and there's tons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   of them here you just mentioned the food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:23   preparation thing or even just hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   out of the stall where you figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:26   where you're going to get for your stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:27   yeah it is it is a ate a small scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:31   like it's still set it's still an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33   outdoor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:33   thing or like you know inside your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   little hot or whatever but that that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   think is a really important part of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:38   movie they spend a lot of time on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:40   their credit establishing ray her life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:45   her routine in giving it room to breathe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:47   giving it room to see her crawling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   around the Star Destroyer like you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:50   to spend a year on doesn't have to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52   subplot where she runs away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:53   something inside the Star Destroyer she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:54   goes into town tries to get the money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:57   should bring the thing back she makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   her meal sheets it she puts on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01   helmet like the give that room to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03   breathe to get you to identify with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05   character yes but to give you even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:08   better picture of her life than you ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:09   gotten even Luke swear he's complaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11   about having to go out to the fields or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:12   whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:13   especially a lifelike as it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15   there's a lot of dialogue I think she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:16   has a pretty lonely life doesn't live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:17   with a bunch of the people she doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:19   have friends she's not talking about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:20   know being jealous of her friends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:21   and bags went off to the rebellion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23   there's no bigs it's just her and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:26   she lives in and started for injunction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   neck and a guy who's really mean to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:29   and weird bread that they probably have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:32   in Japan that comes out of the water and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   so I really love i really love the blue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36   milk scale that entire thing and i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:38   the amount of time a dedicated to what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:40   think it really helped movie yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:41   agree let's uh let's talk about Ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:45   before we get to Finn one of our one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:48   our main characters we meet her she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:50   scavenger she's picking things out of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:51   imperial star destroyer i will say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:54   that is crash i will i'll point out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:55   i believe that's basically a match cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:58   that we see a pole being being taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:01   prisoner and and there on the there on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3361">TS</a>]

00:56:03   the Star Destroyer in the inn in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:06   launch Bay and then she's in the launch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:07   Bay of the destroyed Star Destroyer it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:10   just kind of a nice contrast that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:11   they're on one that's working and cheese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13   and the one that is just a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:15   garbage on the ground super cool that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17   pretty nice but she's so so ray when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:20   meet her she's a scavenger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:21   she's very she's but she's also marking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:24   time on the inside of her a department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:27   waiting for somebody and who has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:31   shown up and then you know she she meets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:34   she meets a droid who doesn't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:37   doesn't want to abandon her and follows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:40   her around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:40   and so we're gonna I guess we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:42   have to talk about bb-8 as well but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:44   you know she's she ends up being this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:47   kind of amazing character I had a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:49   later the movie where I thought well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:51   wait a second now so she's basically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:54   Jedi in training or will be in training [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:56   but she's got force powers and she can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:59   fly the Millennium Falcon and has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:01   bacchus or copilot what can she do we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:04   need anybody else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:04   this is just go she's also a nobody she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:07   has no friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:08   yeah he is she is professionally weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:11   front basically from isolation like she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   is self-sufficient screw myself and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:16   some might say self-sufficient to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18   fault and like it she's such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20   interesting quirky character because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22   didn't like in getting back to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:23   comparing to look who's our closest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:25   analogue he seemed like he like went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:29   school like he went to middle school and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:30   he went to high school and he's working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32   the field he's got friends and hang out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34   or whatever she is a weird she's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:37   weird hermit and training like she's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39   nothing going on and she's clearly like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41   very cerebral and in her in her world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43   and her in her interactions with ensure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:46   she interacts with in the way someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48   who lived alone out in the woods but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50   even though she goes into town every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:51   but none of those people are her friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   like they have the scene where she looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:54   at the old woman scrubbing the parts get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:56   that you know a brief glimpse of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:57   potential future it's like yeah is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:59   is i did i'm going to be coming back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:00   forth with parts and given to the bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   the guide him ripping me off until it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   looks like that woman but she goes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:06   to know I'm waiting I'm waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:07   those people like if if we want to save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:10   time on the on the race section we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:11   going to say is there anything in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:13   K can anyone say anything bad about ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15   this podcast so I i have nothing bad to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   say about right in this podcast by did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   discuss the friend of mine the worry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   that people are going to come away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:22   this especially people who were not big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:25   fans of female characters as leads in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   movies and be like oh well she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29   mary-sue because she's good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:31   everything and to that i say screw you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:34   good I'm know if but she's not she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:37   she's not she's not good at everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:40   the fact that she's she's talented at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:42   number of things yes um what all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:45   these have actual basis and definition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47   her character like she's talented in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:50   electronics and tech because she's grown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:52   up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:53   around electronics in tech and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   done in such a going back to prequel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   comparison here this is done in such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   such more organic way than Anakin's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:02   affinity with tech is done in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:05   prequels where it's like all I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07   really good at fixing things like guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:09   i'm just going to comment about how I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:11   really good at fixing and flying things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:14   yeah where is Ray is just kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16   yeah I can do that I can fix that I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:19   figure that out probably oh that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:21   wrong switch okay well we'll fix it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:24   somewhere else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:25   good timing yeah well like she's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:28   one character what happens at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30   yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:31   yeah run it not even her piloting she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:34   gets a lot of things for someone who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:37   always Mary Sue she's an expert pilot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:38   not not really she really things up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:41   money fucking quite significant figures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:44   it out as my question in fact about her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:45   background is I can understand her being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:48   mechanically savvy because she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:49   crawling around inside of various crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:53   spaceships and salvaging them but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55   she talks about being able to fly unless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:57   she's completely BS in fin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   she's completely BS in fin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   I had a question what drives that should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   she drives the speeders like yeah here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:04   my backstory for like you have a pilot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:06   right Luke is doing the same thing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:08   Tatooine is like oh you know I'm a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:09   pilot was like well where you flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:11   well he's like what you guys are doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:13   and come on you're exactly right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:15   it's not you're going in space so i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17   to think that in various x rays had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:19   opportunity to do the equivalent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21   beggars Canyon you're not flying very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23   high and maybe he received drives around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:24   speeders but part of like salvaging and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:27   getting things like surely she's had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:28   opportunity to various times to repair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:31   and ride every kind of speed and every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:33   kind of like a low-level womp rat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35   bullseye beggars canyons you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37   zooming type of video we just don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   we don't think we don't know her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:40   background but I think that shows when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42   she gets in the big ship which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:44   like what you mean your t16 back home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:47   and has no idea what the hell to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:49   that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:49   yeah and she comes she figures it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:51   but it's very much a trial-and-error its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   carbon that should be garbage that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55   was garbage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57   what I really liked about that just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:01   character in general is how incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:04   naive and vulnerable she is in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:07   regards like that the shot of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:10   sitting at the base of her a department [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:12   with the Rebel Alliance helmet and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:15   looking up at the stars and just has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   this this strange goofy grin on her face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:20   when she's like yeah I'm pretty much in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   the worst place imaginable but i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:25   these tangible links to my potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:27   tangible links to my past and someone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:29   coming from me and I can believe in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:32   a greater power which is and it was done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:35   so much in such a better way than in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:38   that even the Luke origin story where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:40   you know Lou Luke is a Luke suffers from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:44   some some teenage angst lose super whiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:47   and annoying in a way that is looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:49   away his name is it were me come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:53   yeah I think ray is raised character is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:56   fantastic i mean i love that you know as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58   point out that she can be sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00   strange and off-putting but she's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:02   like super self-sufficient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3722">TS</a>]

01:02:04   I think the some of the best scenes with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:06   her are running around with a within why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:09   do you keep taking my hand I can run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:11   like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:12   it's really great that what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   doing for you today that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   another because you're going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:16   he's trying to be a hero and she's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:18   I'm fine I got it together why are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20   taking my hand and asking me if I'm okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22   that was that was kind of beautiful i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:24   think the casting a just doesn't make to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:27   make a note about the casting of days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:28   really who before this is in very little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:31   she's done like a handful TV episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:33   essentially i don't know where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:35   found her but amazing at the yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:37   closest analogue I could think of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:38   she actually really reminded me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:39   hayley atwell like doing anything and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:42   was like how he had this is totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:44   channeling the same thing for me and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:45   the same great way because I i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:47   hayley atwell his portrayal of agent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:49   Carter in that way and so I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:51   the Rays just she's she's a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53   heroin that we don't see enough and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55   again you kind of have to resist the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:57   mapping of her onto Princess Leia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:59   because she is similar in that she is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:01   you know a heroine who's gonna you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3781">TS</a>]

01:03:04   make you fight her own battles and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:06   like that but she's she's spunky and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:08   kind of self sufficient in a way that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:11   get and not and and down-to-earth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:13   not like kind of icy royalty right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15   there's a very different character here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:16   she's as John would say she's different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:18   character name is ray and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:21   it's incredibly well done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:23   I thought the character was well done i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:24   thought the portrayal was the the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   as she and john-boy I feel like your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28   time for my favorite characters here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30   yeah that's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:31   she's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:34   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:43   oh hello confidential investigations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3823">TS</a>]

01:04:01   you're my only hope wait is this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03   come to dish a 209 y know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:07   uncomfortable radio theatre featuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:10   the galaxy Scouts commander jetpack the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:12   fog Marjorie Carter the two-fisted tales [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:15   of Tesla and more visit us at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:18   incomparable radio network for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:20   finest new shows of yesterday today one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:26   of my favorite I interactions with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3866">TS</a>]

01:04:29   is or just the way the way that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:32   really get introduced to her as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:33   fighter i love the fact that John Vegas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:36   character essentially stumbles stumbles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:39   into town and here's you know fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:41   going on and his first thought is oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:43   shit oh crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:44   the first order and he looks up and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:47   this girl and he's like oh no you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:48   trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:49   I'm gonna save you and he takes two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:50   steps and then she precedes to high kick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:53   somebody in the face and then beats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:56   everybody else down for trying to steal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58   her droid and that it it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:01   such a lovely subversion of again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:04   traditional both women in distress and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:07   just I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:09   oh yes I'm a hero i'm gonna save you oye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11   you can save yourself then I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:14   awkwardly staring here okay and now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:17   gotta run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:18   it's not just as a version but like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:22   they typically do in the movies where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24   they want to do this like you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:25   the whole terrible thing I don't has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:27   ever got coin but the whole idea of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:28   strong female character worse where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:30   people hear the word strong and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:32   like muscles and they're not thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:34   it as in like a well-constructed female [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:37   character because they would say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:38   strong that's the word you picked and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:39   that's the word everybody says but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:40   what movies tend to do is overcompensate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:43   so an actual Mary Sue or whatever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:46   that the the woman lead is not only is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:49   she not the typical you know damsel in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:52   distress but in fact the movie takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:55   great pains to show that she is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57   better than all the men in the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:59   which is not what you it's over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:00   compensating it's not what you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:02   do it as in like the only way we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04   pull this off is to essentially you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:06   to make our two times as good as the men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:08   and then she'll be accepted as an equal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:09   to the men whereas in this movie but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:12   they do with with Daisy is just have her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:14   go about her life and the wheels going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:16   about it and then have the men have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:18   men be the ones who act differently than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:21   in other movies so the woman doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:22   have to be too at times as good as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:23   everyone else they have to have the men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:25   come upon and the man is the one who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:27   the instinct that that that has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:28   movie tropes and he has to change his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:31   behavior he has to go oh wait this isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:32   going the way I thought it would go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:35   he's the one who does different things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:36   not seen her seen can play without him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:38   being there straight up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:40   she's assaulted that trying to get BBA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:41   backsheet fend them off that seemed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:43   work fine but but the guy is there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:46   the only thing that is different about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:47   the scene is how how fins section of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:51   scene goes cutting out of the scene the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:52   scene play straight and it's fine put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:54   an interesting and the seams still plays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:55   the same way but he's the one whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:57   expectations observer and the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:59   love about Ray is it's clear that her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:01   isolation has led to her not even being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:05   and her lifestyle has led to her not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:07   even being exposed to the gender roles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:09   that Finn has clearly at least been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:10   exposed to a little bit he's grabbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:12   her hand she doesn't even have a context [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:13   to understand why in the world would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:15   be trying to grab my hand like I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:17   child or something to lead me away right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:19   and like you know they are you okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:21   she has no precedent for like why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:23   man be coming up to me said yeah I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:25   alright let's let's go like you cannot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:27   really like she doesn't have context for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:29   the end makes sense because why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:31   you have the context because she's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:32   self-sufficient she's been she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:33   socially isolated as well as physically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:35   isolated from people so i just love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:37   fact that she's allowed to be herself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:39   and that everybody else's patterns and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:42   expectations are screwed up and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:43   bounce off and it doesn't she doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:45   have to be the one to say I will now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:47   express the reality down on you be by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:51   being 20 times as awesome as every man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:54   and therefore that's why that's why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:56   that all now except that i will accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:58   you as an equal because your 7 17 times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4078">TS</a>]

01:07:59   as good as I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:00   even Han Solo later you know later when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:03   they're when they're in the Millennium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:04   Falcon together you know she's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:06   matter-of-factly is like I'm gonna come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:08   sit in the copilot's seat and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:11   gonna deal with it because you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:12   somebody to prime these fuel pumps also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:15   you know if I hadn't been around you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:16   probably would have exploded in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:17   hyperspace so good you know I'm just I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:19   just gonna be here I'm gonna do my thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21   I i know a little bit about ships it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:23   cool yeah she's a she's also essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:26   she's the chosen one right i mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:28   where we end up with is that she's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:30   she's also really good because she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:31   special like these these kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:33   stories have the chosen one who has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:36   power that you know she's been living on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:38   this off in the middle of nowhere but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:40   she's actually vitally important person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:43   in the galaxy because she's got the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:45   powers at the force and perhaps her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:47   history ties into that but it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:50   really matter because you know she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:53   feeling that Roland so of course she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:54   awesome but she doubts that role much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:56   more than look too by the way because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:58   like Luke is like well I i'm looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:00   you know look off to the horizon and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:02   would like to go out and he wants to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:03   great rebel pilot and he becomes a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05   pilot he seems to fall pretty natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:07   into of course I'm not before some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:08   pretty important guy like a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:09   awesome pilot and I help the rebels with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:11   the whole death star thing and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:13   like adult you know in the trailer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:15   I'm nobody liked it takes her some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:17   convincing for she doesn't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:18   lightsaber like this is my destiny I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:19   must take up the mantle she's like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4159">TS</a>]

01:09:21   like she's still thinking about getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23   back and wait for our family to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:24   back on jakku she's she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4164">TS</a>]

01:09:26   immediately said well of course I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:27   always known my entire life I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:29   the savior of the entire universe she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:30   hasn't known that she just wants her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:32   parents to whoever was that to come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:34   and she is very resistant to the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:36   her being special or a savior in any way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:39   yeah let's talk about where we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:42   hitting all the characters here so let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:44   talk about thin we should get to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:46   John boyega he is the defect he is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:49   storm trooper who effects essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:51   but he's not in the resistance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:53   no no i'm totally on the resistance now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:54   I'm actually I'm not the resistance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56   i really love definitely in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:58   resistance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4198">TS</a>]

01:09:58   um I love the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:01   random Star Wars you know like random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4201">TS</a>]

01:10:03   tidbits obviously like his operating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05   number fn-2187 2187 is layers cell on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:08   the Death Star so like that's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:10   thanks for yet another knotted to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4210">TS</a>]

01:10:13   our previous one but i really ask again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:16   you know I i love this character because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:19   he is well he is a clearly like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:21   character that works in the star wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4221">TS</a>]

01:10:23   universe he's not a character we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:24   never really dealt with before he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:26   kinda wants to do the good thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4226">TS</a>]

01:10:28   he's also really kind of out for himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:29   and he doesn't really want to fight for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4229">TS</a>]

01:10:31   a cause but he's not like cynical and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:33   jaded like he is like kind of attempting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4233">TS</a>]

01:10:35   to be a hero but he also kind of knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4235">TS</a>]

01:10:37   where to draw the lines a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4237">TS</a>]

01:10:39   a coward but he does seem to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:41   through when the chips are down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:43   I just I really enjoy John play goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:45   performance he is enthusiastic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:48   hilarious and number of ways like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:50   you bring me it's the right thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:52   and you need a pilot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:53   I need a pilot and so i I just I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:57   it was such an interesting character to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4257">TS</a>]

01:11:00   watch him develop over the course of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:02   this movie and I think him and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:04   great that he and Daisy really have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:05   fantastic chemistry because i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:09   the two of them in any scene was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:11   like they just the way they bounce off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4271">TS</a>]

01:11:13   each other is perfect i thought he and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:14   oscar isaac also have fantastic the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:16   whole time fighter sequence well they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:18   escaping from the Star Destroyer is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:21   great and the enthusiasm with which they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:23   greet each other when they finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4283">TS</a>]

01:11:25   reconnect is just so welcome and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:28   cool right like it's there is no macho [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:31   male strutting there's no trying to out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:34   man each other there's no competing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:36   they're just genuinely super excited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:40   see each other and that they're not dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:41   and and that's refreshing and it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:45   to see that kind of camaraderie now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4305">TS</a>]

01:11:47   let's it's cut its camaraderie under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:50   fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:51   we're ok we're going to be thrown into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4311">TS</a>]

01:11:53   these crazy situations together and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:57   and something great is gonna come out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:59   it and it's the the same interaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:00   that he has with poe dameron he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:02   almost immediately with with Ray as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:05   where it's okay I'm you know he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:08   originally gets chased after x ray and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:11   bb-8 because BBA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:12   a droid who we should talk about a job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4332">TS</a>]

01:12:15   and I'm seize Finn is like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:18   wearing my Master's check it is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:21   you guys don't know what you're shocked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:22   you what are you don't my gosh which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:25   it was funny so great but it's only so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:28   i really like John boyega I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:30   did a great job Finn is a problematic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4350">TS</a>]

01:12:34   character in some ways and and follow me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:37   here he he does not have a direction in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:41   this area because i'm a role you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:43   his his he does his direction is a ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4363">TS</a>]

01:12:45   away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:46   that's nice about it is that he did he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:48   has bravely a character that wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50   run away and axon that feeling a lot he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:52   does not want hehe at no point really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:55   does he want to join the fray until I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:58   guess the very end he really is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:00   and we see it most it when they're at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:03   the at the the cantina basically and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:05   he's like I want to talk to those guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:07   about going to the outer rim that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4387">TS</a>]

01:13:08   i'm just trying to get out of here it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:09   like it and yes that's a little bit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4389">TS</a>]

01:13:11   Han saying I just want to play not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:15   yeah he was here I get bigger he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:18   PTSD essentially from being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:20   stormtrooper he doesn't he wants out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4400">TS</a>]

01:13:21   this whole thing even at the end he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:22   wants to go back and get raised like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:24   whatever your mission like the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:25   reason he's like come with me ray and go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4405">TS</a>]

01:13:27   to the outer rim like he wants to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:29   away really badly and is never convinced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4409">TS</a>]

01:13:32   that i need to join the resistance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:34   nopee just want to say ray okay well if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4414">TS</a>]

01:13:36   you want to let me finish what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:37   saying is he's like Han in saying I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:39   want to get paid in the sense that his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4419">TS</a>]

01:13:40   goals are not initially what other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:42   people's goals are right and and his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:45   goal is is essentially i just want to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:48   away I will lie and say that I'm part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:50   the resistance it will get me further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:51   away you the first order is gonna win we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:54   need to run away from them come with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:56   and we'll run away and and so it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:59   interesting it's an interesting are can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:00   do he ends up getting kinda hit by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:02   lightsaber in the back and we never hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:04   from him again he's just sort of like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:05   he'll be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:06   kiss him on the forehead see ya later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:08   buddy and then and then that's it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:10   it's he's an interesting character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:12   because he is not though he's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:14   lead raise the lead but he is he is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:19   of our important characters and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4459">TS</a>]

01:14:21   hasn't yet you know by the end perhaps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:24   the first time we see him in the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4464">TS</a>]

01:14:26   movie he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:26   now have a direction but in this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4466">TS</a>]

01:14:28   he is he is not with the program at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:31   point and it's kind of fun but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4471">TS</a>]

01:14:34   it's I don't know it's it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4474">TS</a>]

01:14:36   interesting choice because that means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4476">TS</a>]

01:14:38   that he's you know he ate almost every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:41   scene he's their kind of because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:42   doesn't want to be but while he's here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:44   you might as well do something useful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:45   that sort of his rights is like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:47   like r2d2 c3po they had they they come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4487">TS</a>]

01:14:50   from space on the Star Destroyer down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:52   the planet set the plot in motion but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4492">TS</a>]

01:14:53   essentially there they are essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:55   direction as well it's not as if c-3po [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4495">TS</a>]

01:14:57   has a big stake and and the rebellion in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4497">TS</a>]

01:14:59   the empire but those droids trace you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:02   through the whole plot so thin spinning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4502">TS</a>]

01:15:04   out of his little you know start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:06   stormtrooper thing end up spinning down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4506">TS</a>]

01:15:08   the planet picking up people as he goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4508">TS</a>]

01:15:09   and spinning through and at various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:11   times trying to get away more than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:12   droids but they then again r2 r2 is on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:15   mission so we had something to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:16   c-3po was like yeah you know me from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4516">TS</a>]

01:15:18   windows of these the bars Nostra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:19   recognition yeah all right finish the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:21   c-3po of this movie fine or the floor or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4521">TS</a>]

01:15:23   the forest like yeah i mean like i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:25   think he needs to have any direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4525">TS</a>]

01:15:27   other than a wheel that is that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:29   experience of his character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:30   it'll be interesting when in the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:32   movie if they turn him into a company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4532">TS</a>]

01:15:34   man or whatever but for now like I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:36   enjoy the fact like even even the Rebel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:38   Alliance thing like oh yeah I'm part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4538">TS</a>]

01:15:39   the rebound he was saying that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:40   impress a girl yeah it's only his only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:42   connections are personal like he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:44   friend who cares about the friends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4544">TS</a>]

01:15:46   by the end of this movie is not yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4546">TS</a>]

01:15:48   convinced of anything having to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:49   the geopolitical struggle he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:51   even have a name until very early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:53   that's true here right like he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4553">TS</a>]

01:15:55   trying to overthrow the the first-order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:57   he just wants to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4557">TS</a>]

01:15:58   he just wants to be gone right he just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:00   wants to be out of there and not killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:01   people and and has not said I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4561">TS</a>]

01:16:04   again I'm not a member of the of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:07   resistance that's not who he is yet it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:10   it's and we'll talk about this i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:11   a little bit later one of the delights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:14   of this movie is that it is very clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:17   the first in a in a in a new story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:21   so not everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:23   there's a lot of loose ends there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:24   room and is an orphan start energy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:27   exactly right and there's time he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:28   doesn't need to come all the way around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:30   so at the end he's like I have joined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4590">TS</a>]

01:16:32   the resistance now and now i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:33   learned my important character trait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4593">TS</a>]

01:16:35   that has changed me as a person that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4595">TS</a>]

01:16:37   doesn't really happen he gets knocked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:38   out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:39   bye bye bye Adam driver and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:44   nursed back to health back at the base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:46   at the end of the movie and that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4606">TS</a>]

01:16:47   right but he shows character though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:50   right like that's the thing sure to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:52   up a lightsaber and does a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:53   lightsaber battle which is cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:55   um anybody more to the point it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:57   i mean like a you know I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4617">TS</a>]

01:16:59   turning his friend well yeah exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:00   like everybody and puts the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4620">TS</a>]

01:17:02   resistance at risk to go back and save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4622">TS</a>]

01:17:04   his friend on Starkiller base this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:06   true so so he is a hero of some sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:09   even if a cowardly reluctant hero at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:11   times I mean I think that's where I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:13   collected lying here okay fine I'm okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:16   with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:17   nobody cares nobody cares about other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:19   people he's got he's got his guy he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:20   not careful is not battery more alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4640">TS</a>]

01:17:23   he's just yeah he's he's got his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4643">TS</a>]

01:17:24   agenda and it's fine like it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:26   noble agenda to a certain extent even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4646">TS</a>]

01:17:29   it is more limited in its worldview and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:31   that's what I like about it is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:32   know he does pick up the lightsaber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:33   defendants friend even when it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:35   clear that he's gonna get his ass kicked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:37   yes for me what a-what nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:39   necessarily redeems Finn but what makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:42   finais a exciting character and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4662">TS</a>]

01:17:45   something that I'm really looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:45   forward to seeing them flush out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:47   next feat to movies is that last battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:50   where essentially he's come all this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:52   to rescue ray and she doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:55   need rescuing but you know he's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:57   he's gonna be there for her anyway and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4677">TS</a>]

01:18:01   when she gets flung 30 feet into a tree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:04   and he doesn't know if she's gonna wake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:07   up essentially like I have the last time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:10   that this dude was alone with Ray he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4690">TS</a>]

01:18:13   dragged her off to god-knows-where and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4693">TS</a>]

01:18:15   did god-knows-what to her and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4695">TS</a>]

01:18:17   know but like she's my friend and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:19   somebody I care about and i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:20   take a stand and that I think is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:23   defining moment in this movie and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:25   wasn't as telegraphed as well as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:26   could have been but I like and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4706">TS</a>]

01:18:29   that they're going to be people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:30   super bummed out that Finn is not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4710">TS</a>]

01:18:32   Jedi in this movie and you know maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4712">TS</a>]

01:18:34   movie is for Ferris who knows least you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:36   still got two movies got used to use a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4716">TS</a>]

01:18:38   lightsaber a bit here a while that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4718">TS</a>]

01:18:40   his personal culmination of his story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:42   that he said he's fighting to save for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:44   it's just like there's not that moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4724">TS</a>]

01:18:45   where he where he says all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4725">TS</a>]

01:18:47   everybody i'm going to join up because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:48   that the we'll deal with that later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:49   right it's just another movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:51   their inner demons because it's clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:53   feels bad about himself he feels bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:54   that he was a stormtrooper he also got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4734">TS</a>]

01:18:56   it feels bad that he was a traitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4736">TS</a>]

01:18:57   because people are always yelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4737">TS</a>]

01:18:58   traitor and yeah as bad as bad with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4738">TS</a>]

01:19:01   sculpture Gaius that is to say like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:04   know if you like I'm a traitor because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:06   you guys are bad like like but every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:08   just asking why the trash is he's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:11   right factor like he doesn't get much in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:14   the way of lines to develop his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:15   character like to explain to say out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:17   loud what his character is doing but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:19   does have one which is you know why did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:21   you lie about the the rebel things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:23   because she looked at me away no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:24   else has ever looked at me for no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:26   else has ever looked up he doesn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:27   he's worthy of admiration and when Ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:29   looks admiringly add him when he thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:31   when when she thinks he's part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4771">TS</a>]

01:19:33   resistance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:34   that's why he buys into that line is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:35   resistant to give it up and why he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4775">TS</a>]

01:19:37   attaches on ray so much is like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4777">TS</a>]

01:19:40   someone who looked up to me if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:41   briefly for a reason for like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:43   and that's why he wants this part you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:45   know he is he is neat he's in need of he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:49   needs to believe that he is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4789">TS</a>]

01:19:50   good person when really he isn't most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:52   the things he does are not good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:53   that's why he's so attached array and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:55   fighting the Stormtrooper is trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:57   to fight against his old self like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4797">TS</a>]

01:19:59   not I'm not you guys anymore you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:00   are bad and I don't like what you do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4800">TS</a>]

01:20:02   then fighting to try to defend Rafe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:04   usually because he's really bad at it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:06   is him defending this one person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:09   briefly looked up to him so I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:11   don't know where he goes from here but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:12   think it's tough self-esteem was his big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:15   problem in this migraine that and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4815">TS</a>]

01:20:17   having a lot of badlock yeah that never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:19   having a blaster winning needs one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:21   yeah okay bb-8 let's see the alevi be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:25   what a what a what a fun droid this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4825">TS</a>]

01:20:27   this little but I'll just before I no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4827">TS</a>]

01:20:30   rain is going to talk about great bb-8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:32   it is here i'll just say i love that Han [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:36   Solo calls in ball move ball so i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:44   i didn't think it was possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:46   actually enjoy bb-8 as much as i did in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:49   that I i went into it basically being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:51   like of course is he's a little droid on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:54   e I'm gonna love him by default i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:56   holding a tiny bb-8 in my hand I bought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4856">TS</a>]

01:20:59   one long before I saw the movie so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4859">TS</a>]

01:21:00   clearly already had like a pro droid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:02   bias going into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:04   but i think the moment that he endeared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:07   himself the most to me is that initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:10   meeting with ray I where he you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:14   she's just like town's that way go deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:16   with your secret mission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:17   I don't want to deal with you I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:18   have friends grumble and BB just looks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:22   tray and then starts purring and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4882">TS</a>]

01:21:25   know what it was about vba as tiny cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:28   which totally sold it for me and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4888">TS</a>]

01:21:30   like yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:30   ok i'm on board this train I but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:34   thing that I really love about bb-8 is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:37   he's he's his own lovable self without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4897">TS</a>]

01:21:41   having to play on our two strips in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4901">TS</a>]

01:21:44   he's despite being an astromech and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4904">TS</a>]

01:21:46   having our to like mechanisms on I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:50   feel like I feel like he and r2 are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4910">TS</a>]

01:21:53   completely different droids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:55   I don't you don't have vb it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57   feel like one of the endless remixes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4917">TS</a>]

01:22:01   droids that we saw in the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:02   trilogy right this is a it's around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:05   droid it is this is a different kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:07   creature and when sounds different too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4927">TS</a>]

01:22:09   good good sound design on bb-8 being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4929">TS</a>]

01:22:12   seen it distinct from r2d2 yes yet at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4932">TS</a>]

01:22:15   the heez I think much more whereas our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4935">TS</a>]

01:22:20   tues Artoo's curious but naaa na like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4940">TS</a>]

01:22:23   almost selfless way i want to say or to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4943">TS</a>]

01:22:26   just kind of barrels into things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4946">TS</a>]

01:22:28   bb-8 i think is much more like Oh are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:32   going into this now okay but I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:35   see where the bad guys are going to peek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:36   out between your legs but uh I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:39   stay back here and you know I don't heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:42   he just has such this except except when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:45   he like chest bumps r2d2 try to wake him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4965">TS</a>]

01:22:48   up at all sad to me that was so sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4968">TS</a>]

01:22:52   which it literally felt BB is a kitten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:55   of this Lincoln baby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4975">TS</a>]

01:22:56   it is a tiny is a tiny droid kitten with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:59   boundless energy and the ability to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:01   crazy things but then he comes up to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:04   know he comes up to the veteran droids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:06   he comes up to r2 and it's just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:08   like knock knock mr. cat wake up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4988">TS</a>]

01:23:12   Ruby obviously bb-8 like all droids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:14   broadcast like a wireless signal about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4994">TS</a>]

01:23:16   who they are and what's going on with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:17   them because because I c-3po in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:21   the scene where we see that c-3po and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:22   explains that you might not understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5002">TS</a>]

01:23:24   who he is because he's got a red arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:25   which is a good joke he immediately says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5005">TS</a>]

01:23:28   come on bb-8 let's get out of here my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5008">TS</a>]

01:23:30   god they knew each other yeah really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:32   funny video is is fluent in over six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5012">TS</a>]

01:23:35   million forms of communication human you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:37   always assume that all droids know each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:39   other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:40   sure I is my personal favorite BBA teens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5020">TS</a>]

01:23:43   were still wouldn't be missed the falken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5023">TS</a>]

01:23:45   fighting working just a flip the ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:48   over and it just fall every time the boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5028">TS</a>]

01:23:50   was like wait and he finally looks on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:52   enough that it is your little things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:54   that comes into play love that he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5034">TS</a>]

01:23:57   told cables and not only that we see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5037">TS</a>]

01:24:00   use told cables just to sustain himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:03   midair but also he's like alright i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5043">TS</a>]

01:24:05   use tok apples to like get myself out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5045">TS</a>]

01:24:07   out of holes or climb stairs things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5047">TS</a>]

01:24:12   you know don't really make sense for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:13   your average astromech droid bb-8 is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:16   is as pedestrian says one-of-a-kind my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5056">TS</a>]

01:24:19   am 18 he just he's a droid full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:22   personality and all of the little things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:25   that he pulls out of course like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5065">TS</a>]

01:24:26   shocks finn he's very you know he's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:30   impetuous as as droids go but he just he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5070">TS</a>]

01:24:35   has all of these little personality to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:36   works and works and little little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5076">TS</a>]

01:24:39   pockets of useful things here and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:43   and and then you get really ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:46   things like oh he has a lighter that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:48   happens to look like a thumbs-up side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:50   when he turns it upside down and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5090">TS</a>]

01:24:53   know in the prequel that that motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5093">TS</a>]

01:24:56   would have bombed that would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5096">TS</a>]

01:24:58   like a oh god why are you making a droid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5098">TS</a>]

01:25:01   do that my and I have a little here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5101">TS</a>]

01:25:05   yeah that guy like that scene that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:08   seemed with the little thumb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:09   I've seen the movie twice now is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:12   was the biggest last of the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5112">TS</a>]

01:25:13   theater yeah times B and i think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5113">TS</a>]

01:25:16   all entire like so much of comedy about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5116">TS</a>]

01:25:18   timing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:19   it's not so much about the concept it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:20   about the timing like he has exited that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5120">TS</a>]

01:25:23   it comes quickly that they don't dwell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:25   on it that it's not like it get ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5125">TS</a>]

01:25:27   he's gonna do a funny thing they it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5127">TS</a>]

01:25:29   that's why i kept that's why the laugh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5129">TS</a>]

01:25:31   comes it's so fast and it's gone because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5131">TS</a>]

01:25:32   guys like yeah right on he goes pop boom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5132">TS</a>]

01:25:35   and then they cut away that's it i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:36   say i love i absolutely adore that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5136">TS</a>]

01:25:39   entire scene where John boyega is trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5139">TS</a>]

01:25:43   to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:44   bb-8 into not reading amount and it only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5144">TS</a>]

01:25:47   weighs looking back and forth he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:49   know it's like I but he's anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:52   outright the droid has to decide what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:53   right instead of following orders and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5153">TS</a>]

01:25:55   saying BBA go that way Ba do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5155">TS</a>]

01:25:58   bb-8 help me with that the droid has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5158">TS</a>]

01:26:00   make a call here like a judgment call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5160">TS</a>]

01:26:02   and his little head goes back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:03   yeah all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5163">TS</a>]

01:26:05   mmm yeah I guess we'll do this now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:08   it's uh and seeing him roll right all i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:10   was going to be skeptical about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:12   seeing him roll around in the desert [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:14   like is it doesn't really feel like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5174">TS</a>]

01:26:16   droid could actually roll around in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5176">TS</a>]

01:26:18   desert and the fact is it does it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5178">TS</a>]

01:26:20   it feels perfectly natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5180">TS</a>]

01:26:21   there are a couple really nice moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:23   not just when he's bouncing around in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5183">TS</a>]

01:26:24   the Millennium Falcon but there's a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:26   moment where he gets kind of blasted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5186">TS</a>]

01:26:27   across the room in something where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5187">TS</a>]

01:26:31   there's an explosion and and you see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5191">TS</a>]

01:26:32   ball and he's like behind the head the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5192">TS</a>]

01:26:34   head is behind and you see him land and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:37   the head pops up which I thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:38   really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:39   there's a oh I'll also say when he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5199">TS</a>]

01:26:41   bouncing around inside the Millennium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5201">TS</a>]

01:26:43   Falcon I there is literally the sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5203">TS</a>]

01:26:46   effect of a bouncing basketball in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:50   the I heard that there's a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:51   Clank in there to know but there's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:53   but there's one of the sound elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:55   terry's is somebody like recorded a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5215">TS</a>]

01:26:57   basketball bouncing on the on the floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5217">TS</a>]

01:26:59   so that's pretty funny that kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5219">TS</a>]

01:27:00   clanging sound of the other of a fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5220">TS</a>]

01:27:02   inflated kind of basketball bouncing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5222">TS</a>]

01:27:04   on concrete or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:05   so that's in there i love that and I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5225">TS</a>]

01:27:08   when he moves the only moment was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5228">TS</a>]

01:27:10   when he's in the forest and Ray turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5230">TS</a>]

01:27:12   around he's like oh you shouldn't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5232">TS</a>]

01:27:13   here and I'm like how did he get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5233">TS</a>]

01:27:15   that was like that's why I know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5235">TS</a>]

01:27:17   good but he's that good at this but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5237">TS</a>]

01:27:20   it is it is the movement seems very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:22   natural and I Oh what it's a great idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5242">TS</a>]

01:27:26   to have the ball droid and it all it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5246">TS</a>]

01:27:29   really work so all of my kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5249">TS</a>]

01:27:31   trepidation of like are they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:32   going to be able to pull off this droid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5252">TS</a>]

01:27:34   he's the best just think of our to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5254">TS</a>]

01:27:37   end or r2 is way harder to explain our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39   to get to places like all right there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:41   no way with your grandparents you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5261">TS</a>]

01:27:42   have gotten there maybe if you have your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5262">TS</a>]

01:27:43   jets from the prequels and we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5263">TS</a>]

01:27:45   didn't see you use them all actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5265">TS</a>]

01:27:46   pretty good for God's always skeptical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:48   about the stairs even but like they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5268">TS</a>]

01:27:50   that nice to me today I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5270">TS</a>]

01:27:51   downstairs chairs as long as you got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:54   better than are too frankly sorry yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5274">TS</a>]

01:27:55   well so i'm honestly the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5275">TS</a>]

01:27:57   movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5277">TS</a>]

01:27:58   all I was there is it a shot where rake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5278">TS</a>]

01:28:00   lines of a bunch of stairs and bb-8 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5280">TS</a>]

01:28:03   not a knot on that journey ba is elected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5283">TS</a>]

01:28:05   to stay home with no Cameron but are too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5285">TS</a>]

01:28:07   and Chewie are there and you just get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:09   this mournful reply from chewy and r2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:12   just kind of rocking back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5292">TS</a>]

01:28:14   being like I don't like stairs I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5294">TS</a>]

01:28:16   storming the castle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5296">TS</a>]

01:28:17   yeah I essentially and all I could think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5297">TS</a>]

01:28:19   of was man I wish maybe it was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5299">TS</a>]

01:28:21   because i would i would really enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5301">TS</a>]

01:28:23   little bit below ball droid climbing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5303">TS</a>]

01:28:26   the stairs with Ray but the the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5306">TS</a>]

01:28:29   thing that I think sold bb-8 for me was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5309">TS</a>]

01:28:32   the the heart that they have destroyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5312">TS</a>]

01:28:34   admit I mean when he finds out that pose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5314">TS</a>]

01:28:37   when he thinks that PO has been murdered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5317">TS</a>]

01:28:39   he has this beautiful little like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5319">TS</a>]

01:28:42   goes from being an attack attack dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5322">TS</a>]

01:28:44   mode to almost completely shutting down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5324">TS</a>]

01:28:46   and being so mournful and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5326">TS</a>]

01:28:49   translates to when we find out later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5329">TS</a>]

01:28:51   that are too has gone into low power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5331">TS</a>]

01:28:53   mode is basically shut himself down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5333">TS</a>]

01:28:55   because Luke has left without him which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5335">TS</a>]

01:28:58   ye i'm i'm still halfway convinced is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5338">TS</a>]

01:29:01   intentional that Luke actually gave our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:03   two yes I directive on but but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5343">TS</a>]

01:29:07   still but you totally believe it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5347">TS</a>]

01:29:09   moment when threepio's like r2 shut down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5349">TS</a>]

01:29:12   because he misses his master and be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:14   can see be a tree-like sympathetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5354">TS</a>]

01:29:17   reaction being like I know it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5357">TS</a>]

01:29:19   who's a master and finally bb-8 is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5359">TS</a>]

01:29:24   only droid that can make our to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5364">TS</a>]

01:29:26   like an older unit like can make our to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5366">TS</a>]

01:29:29   not feel like the start like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5369">TS</a>]

01:29:31   scruffy yeah the scruffy little Astro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5371">TS</a>]

01:29:34   mac that could end it i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5374">TS</a>]

01:29:37   giving giving him some gravitas like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5377">TS</a>]

01:29:39   giving our to some are two is an older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5379">TS</a>]

01:29:42   joint around for a lot of movies yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5382">TS</a>]

01:29:43   yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5383">TS</a>]

01:29:44   r2 r2 has the you know may still be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5384">TS</a>]

01:29:48   little bit enough start roy but has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5388">TS</a>]

01:29:50   has the elderly spirit now because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5390">TS</a>]

01:29:53   torch has been passed on to be 82 to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5393">TS</a>]

01:29:56   fly the Astro Mac battles and to go all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5396">TS</a>]

01:29:57   do that do all that fun stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5397">TS</a>]

01:29:59   yeah I'm surprised you didn't mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5399">TS</a>]

01:30:00   him racing out to meet his master like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5400">TS</a>]

01:30:02   that he just got borrowing so beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5402">TS</a>]

01:30:04   yeah cash max into trend is really a hug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5404">TS</a>]

01:30:07   side yeah I said little kitten little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5407">TS</a>]

01:30:09   kitten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5409">TS</a>]

01:30:10   yeah there they wisely cut away when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5410">TS</a>]

01:30:12   posed bending down to greet the oncoming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5412">TS</a>]

01:30:13   bb-8 there's nothing really came good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5413">TS</a>]

01:30:15   they can come and take it away and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5415">TS</a>]

01:30:18   they cut back and they're just hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5418">TS</a>]

01:30:19   out and talking some good good editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5419">TS</a>]

01:30:21   their avoid the awkwardness of what does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5421">TS</a>]

01:30:23   happen when the speeding right meets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5423">TS</a>]

01:30:25   them and they don't really hugs got no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5425">TS</a>]

01:30:26   arms it would be weird i would totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5426">TS</a>]

01:30:29   hug the BB unit just pick him up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5429">TS</a>]

01:30:32   yeah he's not that heavy unless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5432">TS</a>]

01:30:34   john-boy a guy and apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5434">TS</a>]

01:30:35   stormtroopers have never lifted anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5435">TS</a>]

01:30:37   uh ok so we talked about that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5437">TS</a>]

01:30:40   talked about most the characters ran you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5440">TS</a>]

01:30:42   want to talk about how around a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5442">TS</a>]

01:30:44   bit let's talk about color and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5444">TS</a>]

01:30:46   can go first turn okay well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5446">TS</a>]

01:30:48   kylo Ren so this is absolutely so he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5448">TS</a>]

01:30:52   been solo Ben Ben Organa Solo know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5452">TS</a>]

01:30:56   the son of land on which I admit I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5456">TS</a>]

01:31:00   good enough about spoilers that I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5460">TS</a>]

01:31:02   not see this coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5462">TS</a>]

01:31:04   I I as soon as it was said I'm like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5464">TS</a>]

01:31:07   yeah of course it's perfect sense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5467">TS</a>]

01:31:09   one thing I don't know if we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5469">TS</a>]

01:31:12   talk about or not is the there are a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5472">TS</a>]

01:31:14   of parallels between this movie and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5474">TS</a>]

01:31:17   choices made in this movie that parallel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5477">TS</a>]

01:31:19   some now-defunct and discontinued it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5479">TS</a>]

01:31:22   expanded universe stories as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5482">TS</a>]

01:31:25   earlier movies yeah I was the force I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5485">TS</a>]

01:31:27   was thinking the most notable thing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5487">TS</a>]

01:31:28   is not the temptation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5488">TS</a>]

01:31:31   of a of Anakin Skywalker and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5491">TS</a>]

01:31:33   prequels although I suppose that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5493">TS</a>]

01:31:35   too but i was thinking very specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5495">TS</a>]

01:31:36   what we hear in dialogue from kylo Ren [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5496">TS</a>]

01:31:40   is very much the flip side of what Luke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5500">TS</a>]

01:31:42   talks about in the original trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5502">TS</a>]

01:31:43   which is to the temptation of the dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5503">TS</a>]

01:31:46   side and here we interestingly has him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5506">TS</a>]

01:31:48   tempted by the light side and in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5508">TS</a>]

01:31:52   scene where he confronts Han Solo out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5512">TS</a>]

01:31:55   the on the bridge there which is also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5515">TS</a>]

01:31:57   Luke I am your father kind of parallel a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5517">TS</a>]

01:32:00   little bit he talks about how you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5520">TS</a>]

01:32:02   he's he's struggling and it's difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5522">TS</a>]

01:32:04   and the way to read that is that you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5524">TS</a>]

01:32:07   think he's saying it's difficult because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5527">TS</a>]

01:32:08   the dark side is tempting me but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5528">TS</a>]

01:32:10   actually saying the reverse which is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5530">TS</a>]

01:32:12   one's thinking about is paying attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5532">TS</a>]

01:32:13   well yeah i know you pick because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5533">TS</a>]

01:32:15   have seen so much of the movie we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5535">TS</a>]

01:32:17   that but we know hon doesn't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5537">TS</a>]

01:32:18   because hot it's it works because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5538">TS</a>]

01:32:20   audience knows the audience knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5540">TS</a>]

01:32:21   he really means exactly thanks ru what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5541">TS</a>]

01:32:23   you want me to uneven might you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5543">TS</a>]

01:32:26   you could argue the heart that hun knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5546">TS</a>]

01:32:28   that that's a possibility on it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5548">TS</a>]

01:32:30   doesn't matter as far as I was concerned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5550">TS</a>]

01:32:31   gotta do it is you can anybody yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5551">TS</a>]

01:32:33   that's not white if you're not white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5553">TS</a>]

01:32:35   knuckle in the armrest at that point I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5555">TS</a>]

01:32:36   mean I don't know what's wrong with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5556">TS</a>]

01:32:38   yes so kylo Ren is a fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5558">TS</a>]

01:32:41   character i am so excited to see where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5561">TS</a>]

01:32:45   his character goes in the next two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5565">TS</a>]

01:32:46   movies because he's been set up so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5566">TS</a>]

01:32:49   here we are impetuous we've talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5569">TS</a>]

01:32:52   we talked a little bit about how he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5572">TS</a>]

01:32:54   reacts you know too bad news and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5574">TS</a>]

01:32:56   he's he's out of control he's not he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5576">TS</a>]

01:32:59   he's the opposite of what we think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5579">TS</a>]

01:33:01   when we think about Jedi even six Jedi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5581">TS</a>]

01:33:03   he's exactly you know we don't know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5583">TS</a>]

01:33:06   who smoke like his his master and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5586">TS</a>]

01:33:09   darkness really is exactly don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5589">TS</a>]

01:33:12   they're if they're six related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5592">TS</a>]

01:33:14   all we know is that Ben Morgana solo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5594">TS</a>]

01:33:16   there was an incident when he was young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5596">TS</a>]

01:33:19   when he was being trained where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5599">TS</a>]

01:33:21   inadvertently slaughtered all of Luke's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5601">TS</a>]

01:33:24   young disciples III think he was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5604">TS</a>]

01:33:27   leader of the Knights of the the Knights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5607">TS</a>]

01:33:29   of Ren they were saying like that i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5609">TS</a>]

01:33:32   in the flashback scene where ray touches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5612">TS</a>]

01:33:34   the lightsaber and show a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5614">TS</a>]

01:33:36   stuff from both the past and the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5616">TS</a>]

01:33:37   is some crazy asian asks yeah they show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5617">TS</a>]

01:33:40   like kylo Ren in front of a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5620">TS</a>]

01:33:42   other dudes what I have the read i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5622">TS</a>]

01:33:44   from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:44   again knowing nothing about expanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5624">TS</a>]

01:33:46   universe or any of the rumors i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5626">TS</a>]

01:33:47   haven't read most of the backstory is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5627">TS</a>]

01:33:48   that like looks Janet training the new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5628">TS</a>]

01:33:51   jedi and one of his students get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5631">TS</a>]

01:33:53   weird dark ideas in his head whether by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5633">TS</a>]

01:33:54   himself or whether it was influenced by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5634">TS</a>]

01:33:56   somewhere outside and he sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5636">TS</a>]

01:33:57   organizes you know like darkness sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5637">TS</a>]

01:34:00   seeps into the class like 11 bad kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5640">TS</a>]

01:34:02   makes all the other bad kids act up but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5642">TS</a>]

01:34:04   much worse and so the dark side to sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5644">TS</a>]

01:34:06   then and that they showed him like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5646">TS</a>]

01:34:08   killing somebody like maybe they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5648">TS</a>]

01:34:09   they went through and tried to kill a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5649">TS</a>]

01:34:11   bunch of people you know these are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5651">TS</a>]

01:34:13   still untrained eye this point but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5653">TS</a>]

01:34:15   basically had a band of followers and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5655">TS</a>]

01:34:17   don't know where they are now always has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5657">TS</a>]

01:34:20   it that that that uh that cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5660">TS</a>]

01:34:23   disruption in the classroom we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5663">TS</a>]

01:34:24   to come that you know and then Luke goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5664">TS</a>]

01:34:26   off as like the theory i I've seen and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5666">TS</a>]

01:34:29   kind of subscribe to now based on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5669">TS</a>]

01:34:30   little I know is that Luke goes off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5670">TS</a>]

01:34:33   bases say it's better for me to bail and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5673">TS</a>]

01:34:35   think about what is screwed up before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5675">TS</a>]

01:34:36   these guys are full train Jedi's rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5676">TS</a>]

01:34:39   than to try to like this fixing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5679">TS</a>]

01:34:40   would be this 1i have to kill all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5680">TS</a>]

01:34:42   guys so he just goes off leaving them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5682">TS</a>]

01:34:44   essentially uncreated crappy Jedi with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5684">TS</a>]

01:34:46   their lightsabers don't even work that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5686">TS</a>]

01:34:47   will sparks coming out of and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5687">TS</a>]

01:34:49   like that and they think they're big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5689">TS</a>]

01:34:50   band at tufts but as we see he's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5690">TS</a>]

01:34:52   just a messed up scared kid who's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5692">TS</a>]

01:34:55   the wrong heroes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5695">TS</a>]

01:34:56   yeah yeah could be could be could be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5696">TS</a>]

01:34:59   regardless he's the one of the notable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5699">TS</a>]

01:35:02   things that happens in the very last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5702">TS</a>]

01:35:04   thing that Snoke says is get kylo Ren it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5704">TS</a>]

01:35:08   is time to compete his complete his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5708">TS</a>]

01:35:10   training because this thing is we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5710">TS</a>]

01:35:11   seen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5711">TS</a>]

01:35:12   this is he's not Darth Vader all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5712">TS</a>]

01:35:14   water is interesting about him is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5714">TS</a>]

01:35:16   he is in some ways imagine Darth Vader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5716">TS</a>]

01:35:18   with the possibility of playing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5718">TS</a>]

01:35:20   legitimate possibility to be redeemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5720">TS</a>]

01:35:22   like Darth Vader so far gone that his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5722">TS</a>]

01:35:25   Redemption comes at the end of his life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5725">TS</a>]

01:35:26   but I think we all have to hold out hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5726">TS</a>]

01:35:29   as a part of the storyline that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5729">TS</a>]

01:35:32   get through to him and that he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5732">TS</a>]

01:35:34   possibility of redeeming himself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5734">TS</a>]

01:35:36   that's I think that's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5736">TS</a>]

01:35:37   because Darth Vader is beyond redemption [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5737">TS</a>]

01:35:38   but perhaps the kylo Ren is not well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5738">TS</a>]

01:35:42   they push they push them far away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5742">TS</a>]

01:35:43   on the bridge that like his whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5743">TS</a>]

01:35:45   is he wants he wants this pain to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5745">TS</a>]

01:35:47   gone and he thinks he can get rid of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5747">TS</a>]

01:35:49   by like going fully already successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5749">TS</a>]

01:35:51   matter not we'll see in the next movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5751">TS</a>]

01:35:52   even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5752">TS</a>]

01:35:53   tortured or has he broken through to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5753">TS</a>]

01:35:55   something else but he's moving farther [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5755">TS</a>]

01:35:57   away not closer that was my question to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5757">TS</a>]

01:35:59   me I mean I feel the way John does which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5759">TS</a>]

01:36:01   is I felt like watching that scene is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5761">TS</a>]

01:36:03   like wow that's like AI mean that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5763">TS</a>]

01:36:04   pretty much the worst thing you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5764">TS</a>]

01:36:06   right there and you did it strikes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5766">TS</a>]

01:36:08   struck me as likewise so he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5768">TS</a>]

01:36:10   getting married anytime soon if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5770">TS</a>]

01:36:12   true me because it's so bad you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5772">TS</a>]

01:36:15   just about facing the next movie and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5775">TS</a>]

01:36:16   like now you know okay he's done some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5776">TS</a>]

01:36:18   bad stuff they're a little easier down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5778">TS</a>]

01:36:20   general Organa going to welcome him back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5780">TS</a>]

01:36:23   you know like it's it it he he really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5783">TS</a>]

01:36:26   seems hell-bent on getting past this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5786">TS</a>]

01:36:28   whole having a conscience light side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5788">TS</a>]

01:36:30   temptation here he wants to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5790">TS</a>]

01:36:32   darkside his hero is darth vader and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5792">TS</a>]

01:36:35   know the thing is like didn't didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5795">TS</a>]

01:36:37   look tell his students that like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5797">TS</a>]

01:36:38   end Darth Vader turned it around he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5798">TS</a>]

01:36:41   not necessarily it could be maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5801">TS</a>]

01:36:43   have been murdered a dropout bloggers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5803">TS</a>]

01:36:45   that that we did that lesson maybe maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5805">TS</a>]

01:36:47   they're like all that's end-of-semester [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5807">TS</a>]

01:36:48   stuff we're gonna work up to that I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5808">TS</a>]

01:36:51   i think the other problem your is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5811">TS</a>]

01:36:53   of interesting issue here with kylo Ren [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5813">TS</a>]

01:36:57   as a character is that this whole like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5817">TS</a>]

01:37:00   yeah the whole light side darkside thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5820">TS</a>]

01:37:02   for him is a very it is interesting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5822">TS</a>]

01:37:04   a flip this on its head and that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5824">TS</a>]

01:37:07   have this sort of temptation there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5827">TS</a>]

01:37:08   that you do have that scene that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5828">TS</a>]

01:37:10   read both ways while he's talking to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5830">TS</a>]

01:37:12   on the bridge but I yeah I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5832">TS</a>]

01:37:15   why it's interesting character he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5835">TS</a>]

01:37:17   very much like he's like a rebellious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5837">TS</a>]

01:37:18   teenager right like that's kind of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5838">TS</a>]

01:37:20   the read on him is like I don't like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5840">TS</a>]

01:37:22   parents im gonna go my grandfather's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5842">TS</a>]

01:37:24   cool i'm gonna go like you know totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5844">TS</a>]

01:37:26   do the thing that my parents would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5846">TS</a>]

01:37:27   really important that I did you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5847">TS</a>]

01:37:30   and it's hard to tell like I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5850">TS</a>]

01:37:32   having seen Adam driver and a few other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5852">TS</a>]

01:37:34   things I kind of expected him to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5854">TS</a>]

01:37:35   off the mask and have like the weasley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5855">TS</a>]

01:37:37   moustachy as a lot of other places and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5857">TS</a>]

01:37:39   so when he's clean-shaven it's a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5859">TS</a>]

01:37:41   like it just in me it it makes such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5861">TS</a>]

01:37:43   big impression of how young he looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5863">TS</a>]

01:37:45   there and it's not clear to me exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5865">TS</a>]

01:37:48   how young he is supposed to be i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5868">TS</a>]

01:37:51   say probably or around 220 may be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5871">TS</a>]

01:37:54   but like maybe a little bit older than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5874">TS</a>]

01:37:56   that but he said what I think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5876">TS</a>]

01:37:58   cover your swing and yeah that direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5878">TS</a>]

01:38:00   but like either way like you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5880">TS</a>]

01:38:02   does read as sort of the rebellious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5882">TS</a>]

01:38:04   teenager who is you know for taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5884">TS</a>]

01:38:06   everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5886">TS</a>]

01:38:06   met his parents were into and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5886">TS</a>]

01:38:09   just determined to kind of control but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5889">TS</a>]

01:38:12   with a little conflict in there because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5892">TS</a>]

01:38:13   somewhere you know inside him he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5893">TS</a>]

01:38:15   realize that maybe there is that isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5895">TS</a>]

01:38:17   the best solution so it's an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5897">TS</a>]

01:38:19   character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5899">TS</a>]

01:38:20   I i think that it's it's tough to redeem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5900">TS</a>]

01:38:23   him easily after what we saw him do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5903">TS</a>]

01:38:26   that's going to be a very I like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5906">TS</a>]

01:38:29   know we talk a little bit about where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5909">TS</a>]

01:38:30   you start with this being the launchpad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5910">TS</a>]

01:38:32   of the new trilogy and what's to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5912">TS</a>]

01:38:34   next and I think that is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5914">TS</a>]

01:38:36   exceptionally interesting question given [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5916">TS</a>]

01:38:38   how much stuff that has been mirrored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5918">TS</a>]

01:38:40   from the original trilogy but the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5920">TS</a>]

01:38:42   very start different directions they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5922">TS</a>]

01:38:43   chosen have you guys seen him and girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5923">TS</a>]

01:38:46   yeah it so I I've watched all the girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5926">TS</a>]

01:38:50   and that's the main place I know him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5930">TS</a>]

01:38:51   from and I think a lot of people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5931">TS</a>]

01:38:54   like if you've seen him on girls it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5934">TS</a>]

01:38:55   kind of weird like oh it's that guy from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5935">TS</a>]

01:38:57   girls and you get taken out of it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5937">TS</a>]

01:38:59   terms in terms of the shirt is on here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5939">TS</a>]

01:39:00   so let's pick if it's but in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5940">TS</a>]

01:39:02   the casting like it can take you out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5942">TS</a>]

01:39:03   it for a second because like oh he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5943">TS</a>]

01:39:05   like my girls but the thing is i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5945">TS</a>]

01:39:06   it's brilliant casting because whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5946">TS</a>]

01:39:09   it's because he's one of those actors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5949">TS</a>]

01:39:10   who lets a lot of his own personality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5950">TS</a>]

01:39:12   show through it all of his characters i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5952">TS</a>]

01:39:13   haven't seen enough to know this or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5953">TS</a>]

01:39:15   because they cast him because of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5955">TS</a>]

01:39:17   role and girls the way his character and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5957">TS</a>]

01:39:19   girls deals with emotions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5959">TS</a>]

01:39:21   emotionally difficult situations in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5961">TS</a>]

01:39:23   very unhealthy way it's very similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5963">TS</a>]

01:39:25   than the very unhealthy way the kylo Ren [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5965">TS</a>]

01:39:27   deals with his emotions and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5967">TS</a>]

01:39:29   what's-his-name that everyone's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5969">TS</a>]

01:39:31   Cumberbatch like Cumberbatch both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5971">TS</a>]

01:39:34   them look a little bit alien yeah a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5974">TS</a>]

01:39:36   little bit ly arranged located they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5976">TS</a>]

01:39:38   a little bit alien like both of them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5978">TS</a>]

01:39:40   white Sherlock is a person who doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5980">TS</a>]

01:39:41   process emotions or the same century and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5981">TS</a>]

01:39:43   was everyone else same way everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5983">TS</a>]

01:39:45   else's needs kylo Ren he looked easy he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5985">TS</a>]

01:39:48   acts messed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5988">TS</a>]

01:39:49   he's weird like he's not entirely stable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5989">TS</a>]

01:39:52   as they would say the home the whole his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5992">TS</a>]

01:39:54   whole life I've felt both the actor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5994">TS</a>]

01:39:57   the character have that vibe so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5997">TS</a>]

01:39:59   good casting i love his big crazy hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/5999">TS</a>]

01:40:02   yeah just you know i love is weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6002">TS</a>]

01:40:03   looking face and I just love his whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6003">TS</a>]

01:40:05   vibe and yes all those things are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6005">TS</a>]

01:40:08   adam from girls like but it's the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6008">TS</a>]

01:40:10   wake up with this character like it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6010">TS</a>]

01:40:12   so happens that this character in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6012">TS</a>]

01:40:14   ways is like adam from girls but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6014">TS</a>]

01:40:17   know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6017">TS</a>]

01:40:18   got off on a darker path so I i love his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6018">TS</a>]

01:40:21   weirdness I look in the same way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6021">TS</a>]

01:40:23   kind of like you know the action movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6023">TS</a>]

01:40:24   trope really good action movies have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6024">TS</a>]

01:40:26   like any a bad guy who is a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6026">TS</a>]

01:40:29   mentally unstable and you don't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6029">TS</a>]

01:40:30   know what he's going to do and he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6030">TS</a>]

01:40:32   little bit weird and that adds something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6032">TS</a>]

01:40:33   to him with collar and I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6033">TS</a>]

01:40:35   there's not like especially if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6035">TS</a>]

01:40:38   totally hit his goal is like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6038">TS</a>]

01:40:39   disassociate he wants to disassociate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6039">TS</a>]

01:40:40   from his feelings from his past from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6040">TS</a>]

01:40:42   everything from his parents and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6042">TS</a>]

01:40:45   killing his father is gonna help him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6045">TS</a>]

01:40:46   disassociate but like is he even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6046">TS</a>]

01:40:48   controllable is smoke gonna turn hits no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6048">TS</a>]

01:40:51   it's not going to turn him into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6051">TS</a>]

01:40:52   beating a lap dog like he's gonna be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6052">TS</a>]

01:40:55   as they would say an agent of chaos in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6055">TS</a>]

01:40:57   the next two movies on I imagine that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6057">TS</a>]

01:40:59   that when we see him again he is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6059">TS</a>]

01:41:01   to be either in training to be or will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6061">TS</a>]

01:41:04   be a Sith Lord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6064">TS</a>]

01:41:06   I think that's where we're going is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6066">TS</a>]

01:41:08   he's going to be Darth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6068">TS</a>]

01:41:08   something-or-other because he wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6068">TS</a>]

01:41:11   continue down this path and then his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6071">TS</a>]

01:41:14   training will be complete and Inhofe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6074">TS</a>]

01:41:16   solo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6076">TS</a>]

01:41:17   yeah well it'll be talking about a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6077">TS</a>]

01:41:19   so that would not be good so good that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6079">TS</a>]

01:41:21   already know better but that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6081">TS</a>]

01:41:23   right by one of the things we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6083">TS</a>]

01:41:25   talk about is is 0 is the loose ends and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6085">TS</a>]

01:41:28   where we go from here because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6088">TS</a>]

01:41:29   that's one of the beautiful things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6089">TS</a>]

01:41:30   this story is there are lots of loose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6090">TS</a>]

01:41:32   ends i read an interview with JJ Abrams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6092">TS</a>]

01:41:34   where he said specifically and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6094">TS</a>]

01:41:36   he's dead on one of the great things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6096">TS</a>]

01:41:37   about the original Star Wars is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6097">TS</a>]

01:41:40   are all these statements that are made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6100">TS</a>]

01:41:41   in it that hint at just giant backstory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6101">TS</a>]

01:41:44   or wide swathes of universe that are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6104">TS</a>]

01:41:48   addressed or explained in anyway it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6108">TS</a>]

01:41:49   just like oh well there's this thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6109">TS</a>]

01:41:51   then you find the clone wars whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6111">TS</a>]

01:41:53   and it's just kinda like they move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6113">TS</a>]

01:41:54   and you have to fill in the gaps with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6114">TS</a>]

01:41:56   your imagination and there is a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6116">TS</a>]

01:41:58   that in this film and I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6118">TS</a>]

01:42:00   because i feel like in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6120">TS</a>]

01:42:01   blockbusters modern blockbusters there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6121">TS</a>]

01:42:03   is this economy of scope where the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6123">TS</a>]

01:42:07   things that get mentioned are the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6127">TS</a>]

01:42:08   that we need to resolve the story later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6128">TS</a>]

01:42:10   and otherwise we take it all out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6130">TS</a>]

01:42:13   otherwise it's just mopped up and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6133">TS</a>]

01:42:15   perfectly tidy and Star Wars has never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6135">TS</a>]

01:42:17   really been that and this movie is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6137">TS</a>]

01:42:20   like that there are lots of things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6140">TS</a>]

01:42:21   are tossed off that you never get any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6141">TS</a>]

01:42:24   more information about so there's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6144">TS</a>]

01:42:26   aspect of it and then there's the aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6146">TS</a>]

01:42:28   of it that this is very clearly a film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6148">TS</a>]

01:42:30   that when you get to the end you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6150">TS</a>]

01:42:31   excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6151">TS</a>]

01:42:32   find out what happens next because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6152">TS</a>]

01:42:34   is not the completion of a journey it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6154">TS</a>]

01:42:36   step one on a new journey and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6156">TS</a>]

01:42:39   really exciting but it does mean that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6159">TS</a>]

01:42:41   are left at the end of this film with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6161">TS</a>]

01:42:43   all these questions about like hey Finn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6163">TS</a>]

01:42:46   has the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6166">TS</a>]

01:42:48   you doing okay and bl bb-8 oh right he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6168">TS</a>]

01:42:51   belongs to PO he can't go with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6171">TS</a>]

01:42:53   fitted with ray what's gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6173">TS</a>]

01:42:55   there and Luke Skywalker say something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6175">TS</a>]

01:43:00   all of these things are to come but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6180">TS</a>]

01:43:03   so I think it's exciting that we're at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6183">TS</a>]

01:43:05   that point where we've got not only kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6185">TS</a>]

01:43:06   of things that may never be a a dress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6186">TS</a>]

01:43:08   like that where Luke's lightsaber was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6188">TS</a>]

01:43:12   found in the yeah I i really wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6192">TS</a>]

01:43:15   know and I were another time you want I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6195">TS</a>]

01:43:17   so badly wanted to know that because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6197">TS</a>]

01:43:18   was like wow that's been it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6198">TS</a>]

01:43:20   they fell down the word best been like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6200">TS</a>]

01:43:22   like 30 years ago was in the garbage the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6202">TS</a>]

01:43:25   same junk collectors are just waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6205">TS</a>]

01:43:26   for lightsabers to fall from the sky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6206">TS</a>]

01:43:27   scavengers don't don't let a lightsaber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6207">TS</a>]

01:43:30   fall from the sky in your head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6210">TS</a>]

01:43:31   pro tip slowly turn off they had like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6211">TS</a>]

01:43:33   like a little switch that when you pass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6213">TS</a>]

01:43:35   out that just turn off we saw that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6215">TS</a>]

01:43:37   fact but you know it is exciting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6217">TS</a>]

01:43:38   we're that we have to think about where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6218">TS</a>]

01:43:40   we're going next year right what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6220">TS</a>]

01:43:42   next movie about because you mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6222">TS</a>]

01:43:43   what where where does kyle ringo and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6223">TS</a>]

01:43:46   thought about that that's the beauty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6226">TS</a>]

01:43:47   it is that where is Rako we know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6227">TS</a>]

01:43:49   film ends with her on the top of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6229">TS</a>]

01:43:52   the mountain which she clearly has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6232">TS</a>]

01:43:54   in mental contact with Luke Skywalker in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6234">TS</a>]

01:43:55   her dreams because she says I imagine an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6235">TS</a>]

01:43:57   ocean I see the island [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6237">TS</a>]

01:43:59   yeah I like they didn't hammer that home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6239">TS</a>]

01:44:00   that is known for you to figure out yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6240">TS</a>]

01:44:02   but it's it but then we go and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6242">TS</a>]

01:44:04   the ocean and there's the island it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6244">TS</a>]

01:44:06   like okay she's been seeing either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6246">TS</a>]

01:44:08   mental contact or being seeing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6248">TS</a>]

01:44:09   future whatever but you don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6249">TS</a>]

01:44:11   like that that's the beauty of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6251">TS</a>]

01:44:13   forest she's been seeing her past and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6253">TS</a>]

01:44:15   her few that's how the fortune when she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6255">TS</a>]

01:44:16   sees kylo Ren betraying his classes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6256">TS</a>]

01:44:20   Jedi Academy she see a course she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6260">TS</a>]

01:44:21   agreement about that island that's her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6261">TS</a>]

01:44:23   future she just didn't know should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6263">TS</a>]

01:44:24   a context for understanding this was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6264">TS</a>]

01:44:26   one like you never explained her you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6266">TS</a>]

01:44:28   know you're gonna see the future in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6268">TS</a>]

01:44:29   past in the force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6269">TS</a>]

01:44:30   no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6270">TS</a>]

01:44:31   strange dreams yeah yeah yeah I know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6271">TS</a>]

01:44:35   but it's a presumably she's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6275">TS</a>]

01:44:37   trained and and Luke's there looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6277">TS</a>]

01:44:39   like a like obi-wan Kenobi and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6279">TS</a>]

01:44:42   gonna presumably train her in the ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6282">TS</a>]

01:44:45   of the force while smoke or somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6285">TS</a>]

01:44:48   whoever Snoke is other than like a giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6288">TS</a>]

01:44:50   holographic column is is gonna do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6290">TS</a>]

01:44:53   same for color n so you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6293">TS</a>]

01:44:55   that's the you know we can see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6295">TS</a>]

01:44:58   pieces are being moved here and then of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6298">TS</a>]

01:44:59   course there's been the attack on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6299">TS</a>]

01:45:00   republic so who knows what the backdrop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6300">TS</a>]

01:45:03   is in terms of the kind of the Galactic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6303">TS</a>]

01:45:05   story there's a lot there's a lot here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6305">TS</a>]

01:45:06   to two questions is are they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6306">TS</a>]

01:45:09   standing on the top of that mountain for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6309">TS</a>]

01:45:11   like a really long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6311">TS</a>]

01:45:12   III just like staring each other down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6312">TS</a>]

01:45:14   that's all that's on my bad list now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6314">TS</a>]

01:45:17   he's first his first task yeah well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6317">TS</a>]

01:45:19   like I get her extending her hand but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6319">TS</a>]

01:45:21   it's like they had the shot where she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6321">TS</a>]

01:45:22   extends her arm with the lightsaber and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6322">TS</a>]

01:45:24   they have the helicopter shot helicopter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6324">TS</a>]

01:45:26   is usm boat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6326">TS</a>]

01:45:28   no I know how I got a helicopter shot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6328">TS</a>]

01:45:30   so wrong so lord of the rings that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6330">TS</a>]

01:45:33   made me sad i have a lot of the rings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6333">TS</a>]

01:45:35   and survivor as my reference points that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6335">TS</a>]

01:45:37   first of all being a Jedi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6337">TS</a>]

01:45:38   how long can you hold the lightsaber up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6338">TS</a>]

01:45:40   yeah well so here like this this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6340">TS</a>]

01:45:42   actually the longest section in my bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6342">TS</a>]

01:45:43   section is correct about the helicopter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6343">TS</a>]

01:45:45   shot because it is such an obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6345">TS</a>]

01:45:47   misstep it is so unnecessary is so short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6347">TS</a>]

01:45:49   here's what's wrong ago and already said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6349">TS</a>]

01:45:50   Lord of the Rings has that visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6350">TS</a>]

01:45:52   language staked out in modern we so does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6352">TS</a>]

01:45:54   survive or another reality programs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6354">TS</a>]

01:45:56   there's no precedent for that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6356">TS</a>]

01:45:57   shot and the rest of this movie or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6357">TS</a>]

01:45:59   rest of Star Wars and there are certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6359">TS</a>]

01:46:00   problems inherent in helicopter shots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6360">TS</a>]

01:46:02   the background is the fastest moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6362">TS</a>]

01:46:04   thing in the background shot and it's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6364">TS</a>]

01:46:06   focus because of the huge focal depth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6366">TS</a>]

01:46:07   because of the zoom on the thing so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6367">TS</a>]

01:46:09   are mostly distracted by the dazzling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6369">TS</a>]

01:46:11   background of moving behind them instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6371">TS</a>]

01:46:13   of looking at the characters that draws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6373">TS</a>]

01:46:15   your eye and because the helicopter shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6375">TS</a>]

01:46:17   your actors have to hold the same pose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6377">TS</a>]

01:46:18   for a long time and inevitably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6378">TS</a>]

01:46:21   emphatic outstretched hand that you saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6381">TS</a>]

01:46:23   in the actual you know medium shot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6383">TS</a>]

01:46:25   gone in the helicopter shopping she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6385">TS</a>]

01:46:27   been holding her arm out like for an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6387">TS</a>]

01:46:28   hour while the helicopter the drone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6388">TS</a>]

01:46:30   circles may keep holding your arm out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6390">TS</a>]

01:46:32   the upholding your aren't you just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6392">TS</a>]

01:46:33   get as good performances all my god i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6393">TS</a>]

01:46:35   just want to remove that shot so badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6395">TS</a>]

01:46:37   the movie really could working with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6397">TS</a>]

01:46:39   Luke just pulling his head back and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6399">TS</a>]

01:46:40   scary like any card that like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6400">TS</a>]

01:46:43   wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6403">TS</a>]

01:46:44   didn't have the courage of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6404">TS</a>]

01:46:44   convictions you didn't have the courage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6404">TS</a>]

01:46:46   to end with the sharp cut you can with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6406">TS</a>]

01:46:48   sharp cut after she extends her arm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6408">TS</a>]

01:46:50   could end after Luke takes his hood off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6410">TS</a>]

01:46:51   you can end with just a look at on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6411">TS</a>]

01:46:53   Luke's face because the whole idea is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6413">TS</a>]

01:46:55   that's the deciding moment what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6415">TS</a>]

01:46:57   to happen is Luke going to accept the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6417">TS</a>]

01:46:59   call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6419">TS</a>]

01:46:59   I mean he's a hermit for a reason you it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6419">TS</a>]

01:47:01   was here has he been expecting her so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6421">TS</a>]

01:47:03   it's all in his facial expression but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6423">TS</a>]

01:47:04   this just so many ways you could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6424">TS</a>]

01:47:06   cut that and ended it dramatically if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6426">TS</a>]

01:47:08   you had the courage to do so all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6428">TS</a>]

01:47:10   helicopter shot all JJ why i didn't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6430">TS</a>]

01:47:13   didn't hate the helicopter shot i hated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6433">TS</a>]

01:47:15   the length of it because it seemed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6435">TS</a>]

01:47:16   completely ridiculous that she would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6436">TS</a>]

01:47:18   have her arm extended for that matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6438">TS</a>]

01:47:20   that yeah that was thing we all walked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6440">TS</a>]

01:47:22   out of it being like are they still just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6442">TS</a>]

01:47:23   yeah I'm here for like three million [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6443">TS</a>]

01:47:25   that its artistic license and that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6445">TS</a>]

01:47:28   think that it's just she hands the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6448">TS</a>]

01:47:29   lightsaber and then they decided it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6449">TS</a>]

01:47:31   freeze frame but it looks off but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6451">TS</a>]

01:47:34   does she handle like that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6454">TS</a>]

01:47:35   detention of the moment is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6455">TS</a>]

01:47:37   lightsabers offered we don't know if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6457">TS</a>]

01:47:39   light there was accepted because again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6459">TS</a>]

01:47:40   Luke has his peace out on this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6460">TS</a>]

01:47:43   thing like he is contemplating he is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6463">TS</a>]

01:47:45   way we don't know if he's been calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6465">TS</a>]

01:47:47   to her with the dream where she's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6467">TS</a>]

01:47:48   been dreaming about it because it's her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6468">TS</a>]

01:47:49   potential future but Luke is not signing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6469">TS</a>]

01:47:51   up to be like he's not there helping the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6471">TS</a>]

01:47:53   resistance out he's he's away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6473">TS</a>]

01:47:55   yeah reason so the whole thing and uh he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6475">TS</a>]

01:47:58   said he's away for a reason but our to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6478">TS</a>]

01:48:00   activated for a reason I just like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6480">TS</a>]

01:48:02   say episode 8 should start with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6482">TS</a>]

01:48:04   still staying there is dark out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6484">TS</a>]

01:48:06   that's just be the first shot when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6486">TS</a>]

01:48:07   look at all right we're good I are done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6487">TS</a>]

01:48:09   great episode 8 will gloss over that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6489">TS</a>]

01:48:11   because really I was most interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6491">TS</a>]

01:48:13   this thing is what the setup is like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6493">TS</a>]

01:48:16   do you convince Luke to come back he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6496">TS</a>]

01:48:18   got reasons for thinking like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6498">TS</a>]

01:48:20   he's doing more harm than good and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6500">TS</a>]

01:48:22   needs to to go away or maybe he's on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6502">TS</a>]

01:48:23   research mission like you don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6503">TS</a>]

01:48:25   what the whole deal is but I just don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6505">TS</a>]

01:48:26   like that his best friend got killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6506">TS</a>]

01:48:29   come on by his former student / nephew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6509">TS</a>]

01:48:31   like that's a pretty good reason to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6511">TS</a>]

01:48:32   back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6512">TS</a>]

01:48:33   i don't like losing is you don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6513">TS</a>]

01:48:35   if he is not if he's a way for a reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6515">TS</a>]

01:48:41   that is that is convincing him that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6521">TS</a>]

01:48:43   will need to be convinced you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6523">TS</a>]

01:48:44   that like that the arguments to be made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6524">TS</a>]

01:48:46   if they just cut for words like oh now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6526">TS</a>]

01:48:48   raise trained and Luke was a trainer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6528">TS</a>]

01:48:49   wait how do i get recalled why you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6529">TS</a>]

01:48:51   decided to come back we're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6531">TS</a>]

01:48:53   good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6533">TS</a>]

01:48:53   but also i mean i think there's were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6533">TS</a>]

01:48:56   overlooking a major or not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6536">TS</a>]

01:48:58   overlooking but not talking about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6538">TS</a>]

01:48:59   major aspect of this which in part is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6539">TS</a>]

01:49:01   raised parentage and in part is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6541">TS</a>]

01:49:04   if it was just about convincing Luke to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6544">TS</a>]

01:49:06   come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6546">TS</a>]

01:49:07   Leia would have been on that on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6547">TS</a>]

01:49:10   train like a layout and finally oh no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6550">TS</a>]

01:49:13   I'm saying that when they when they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6553">TS</a>]

01:49:15   to leave its ray chewy and r2 if it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6555">TS</a>]

01:49:20   just about her if it was just about Luke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6560">TS</a>]

01:49:23   need to come back and help us you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6563">TS</a>]

01:49:25   defeat ray and defeat rent and defeat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6565">TS</a>]

01:49:27   all of this problem this first order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6567">TS</a>]

01:49:30   nonsense she would have come but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6570">TS</a>]

01:49:33   not it's not just Luke me to come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6573">TS</a>]

01:49:35   its Luke here is this super powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6575">TS</a>]

01:49:39   Jedi that just had a run-in with your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6579">TS</a>]

01:49:41   failed apprentice let's maybe you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6581">TS</a>]

01:49:45   consider training her and also maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6585">TS</a>]

01:49:47   she's your daughter maybe she's real is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6587">TS</a>]

01:49:49   related to you either way she's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6589">TS</a>]

01:49:50   powerful Jedi TVD I go igo strongly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6590">TS</a>]

01:49:54   against the like I'm really hoping she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6594">TS</a>]

01:49:56   not in any way related to them i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6596">TS</a>]

01:49:58   the the explanation in some way like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6598">TS</a>]

01:50:01   don't know i came out of the sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6601">TS</a>]

01:50:02   like over the more metatextual analysis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6602">TS</a>]

01:50:04   of like of course she is a person who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6604">TS</a>]

01:50:06   like from a desert planet who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6606">TS</a>]

01:50:08   untrained who come goes off to join the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6608">TS</a>]

01:50:11   rebellion and get sucked into events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6611">TS</a>]

01:50:13   beyond her control and I feel like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6613">TS</a>]

01:50:14   there's there's yeah he again yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6614">TS</a>]

01:50:17   Johnson me annoyed with me for talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6617">TS</a>]

01:50:18   about the force again but I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6618">TS</a>]

01:50:20   there's a pattern right like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6620">TS</a>]

01:50:22   certain amount of patterns that keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6622">TS</a>]

01:50:23   that arise in in these kinds of movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6623">TS</a>]

01:50:26   and you mean you can you can take sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6626">TS</a>]

01:50:28   of adjust of campbell approach it if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6628">TS</a>]

01:50:29   want and say like the hero's journey and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6629">TS</a>]

01:50:31   how these things work but I think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6631">TS</a>]

01:50:32   some ways it had to be that the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6632">TS</a>]

01:50:34   who was going to be able to defeat the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6634">TS</a>]

01:50:35   person defeat a villain who is related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6635">TS</a>]

01:50:37   to him like the most powerful Jedi blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6637">TS</a>]

01:50:40   is gonna have to sort of come from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6640">TS</a>]

01:50:42   same humble origins and follow a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6642">TS</a>]

01:50:44   path of the patterns i was seeing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6644">TS</a>]

01:50:47   getting more cynical take like look this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6647">TS</a>]

01:50:48   program whereby you take children that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6648">TS</a>]

01:50:51   you may want to hide that maybe force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6651">TS</a>]

01:50:53   powerful and put them on a desert planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6653">TS</a>]

01:50:54   this program is not working now this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6654">TS</a>]

01:50:56   this this relocation and adoption foster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6656">TS</a>]

01:50:59   family desert planet first child it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6659">TS</a>]

01:51:01   totally that they need to stop that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6661">TS</a>]

01:51:03   because it just you know what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6663">TS</a>]

01:51:05   like I have their life on the planet but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6665">TS</a>]

01:51:07   then they come out from the planet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6667">TS</a>]

01:51:08   they're just a problem for everybody so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6668">TS</a>]

01:51:10   if you think you're hiding in there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6670">TS</a>]

01:51:11   not going to work you can make your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6671">TS</a>]

01:51:12   getting them out of the game there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6672">TS</a>]

01:51:13   not going to work stop putting these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6673">TS</a>]

01:51:14   kids on desert plants like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6674">TS</a>]

01:51:16   dennis assuming that she was put there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6676">TS</a>]

01:51:17   intentionally hard part of raised part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6677">TS</a>]

01:51:20   of rays story in the next film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6680">TS</a>]

01:51:21   definitely has to be you know why was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6681">TS</a>]

01:51:24   she left on jakku who is she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6684">TS</a>]

01:51:27   you know what lets her what's her story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6687">TS</a>]

01:51:28   and how she deals with that because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6688">TS</a>]

01:51:30   she if she was you know i'm not sure my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6690">TS</a>]

01:51:34   gut feeling is that she was left there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6694">TS</a>]

01:51:36   temporarily and then something happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6696">TS</a>]

01:51:41   perhaps even a a terrible thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6701">TS</a>]

01:51:45   involving Luke Skywalker's of people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6705">TS</a>]

01:51:48   or something but something something bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6708">TS</a>]

01:51:50   happened and then and and she's now sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6710">TS</a>]

01:51:53   of stuck there but I don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6713">TS</a>]

01:51:54   would you put her there temporarily in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6714">TS</a>]

01:51:56   the care of that evil gruff guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6716">TS</a>]

01:51:58   doesn't give her another that's what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6718">TS</a>]

01:51:59   hand or two like when it is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6719">TS</a>]

01:52:01   girl screaming personal drafts of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6721">TS</a>]

01:52:03   script had her with maximum so those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6723">TS</a>]

01:52:06   character and that's I it's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6726">TS</a>]

01:52:10   clarified in this version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6730">TS</a>]

01:52:12   who exactly who she's staying with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6732">TS</a>]

01:52:14   lead to hear the gruff guy in that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6734">TS</a>]

01:52:16   flashback be like come on girl stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6736">TS</a>]

01:52:18   crying yeah it's it's a it's a mystery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6738">TS</a>]

01:52:20   but obviously that's that's a key part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6740">TS</a>]

01:52:21   of her story that we would have to deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6741">TS</a>]

01:52:23   with him and still I mean I think she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6743">TS</a>]

01:52:25   related to the resistance in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6745">TS</a>]

01:52:27   because she has a tiny x-wing doll and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6747">TS</a>]

01:52:30   it's not like unless unless someone was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6750">TS</a>]

01:52:33   carrying around a tiny x-wing doll in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6753">TS</a>]

01:52:35   that Salvage which I highly doubt i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6755">TS</a>]

01:52:37   guessing the tiny x-wing y'all is her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6757">TS</a>]

01:52:39   excuse is made in making her sighs yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6759">TS</a>]

01:52:43   the battle of jakku is all around her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6763">TS</a>]

01:52:45   but she's not idolizing x-wing pilot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6765">TS</a>]

01:52:46   right so there's something you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6766">TS</a>]

01:52:47   know about the origin of skywalker she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6767">TS</a>]

01:52:49   knows about the morning on solo all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6769">TS</a>]

01:52:52   the items you Jedi mind-trick sheet it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6772">TS</a>]

01:52:54   not like that comes out of thin air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6774">TS</a>]

01:52:55   she knows the Jedi mind-trick exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6775">TS</a>]

01:52:56   because it's part of the myth of Luke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6776">TS</a>]

01:52:58   Skywalker in the midst of the force that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6778">TS</a>]

01:52:59   she is you know come in contact with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6779">TS</a>]

01:53:01   through the the tales of the war she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6781">TS</a>]

01:53:03   knows Han Solo's and you know that war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6783">TS</a>]

01:53:06   like she knows all the stories I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6786">TS</a>]

01:53:08   and they just may sound fantastical but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6788">TS</a>]

01:53:10   she's play-acting them by putting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6790">TS</a>]

01:53:11   helmet on everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6791">TS</a>]

01:53:12   not ever like she's not like looking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6792">TS</a>]

01:53:14   the sky longing to join the rebellion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6794">TS</a>]

01:53:16   she's more like you know putting it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6796">TS</a>]

01:53:18   her head like the same way could put on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6798">TS</a>]

01:53:20   like a fireman's helmet only some only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6800">TS</a>]

01:53:22   few kids actually have the ambition to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6802">TS</a>]

01:53:24   become fireman but everyone was on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6804">TS</a>]

01:53:25   fireman helmet so she's putting on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6805">TS</a>]

01:53:26   pilot helmet like that would be fun but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6806">TS</a>]

01:53:28   that's not my life so we should talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6808">TS</a>]

01:53:30   about we've been talking for a while but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6810">TS</a>]

01:53:32   we've got some stuff to cover yet a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6812">TS</a>]

01:53:34   classic series classic trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6814">TS</a>]

01:53:37   characters you know we mentioned yet han [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6817">TS</a>]

01:53:39   Solo getting killed by his son but han [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6819">TS</a>]

01:53:42   and Leia and you know Luke appears at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6822">TS</a>]

01:53:44   the end but but if you've got thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6824">TS</a>]

01:53:46   about he doesn't even get a line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6826">TS</a>]

01:53:48   he's like second bill the poster i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6828">TS</a>]

01:53:50   a second building the credits that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6830">TS</a>]

01:53:52   what blew me and Harrison Ford seconds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6832">TS</a>]

01:53:54   mark hamill really hit his agent isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6834">TS</a>]

01:53:56   me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6836">TS</a>]

01:53:56   it is pretty good well you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6836">TS</a>]

01:53:58   obviously going to appear again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6838">TS</a>]

01:54:00   whereas Han Solo is is the one who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6840">TS</a>]

01:54:02   the strongest presence in this film at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6842">TS</a>]

01:54:05   which is one of the reasons that i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6845">TS</a>]

01:54:06   sitting halfway through going well he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6846">TS</a>]

01:54:08   in this movie a lot I've yes is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6848">TS</a>]

01:54:10   well where we call that three years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6850">TS</a>]

01:54:12   yeah me yeah you remember that episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6852">TS</a>]

01:54:13   where like who do we think is gonna die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6853">TS</a>]

01:54:15   in the the first episode of Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6855">TS</a>]

01:54:17   and I think we all agreed on it was nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6857">TS</a>]

01:54:20   to know that they be like they clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6860">TS</a>]

01:54:22   were like alright wearing one movie is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6862">TS</a>]

01:54:24   informal we're gonna we're gonna we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6864">TS</a>]

01:54:25   gonna we're gonna use in a ringing every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6865">TS</a>]

01:54:27   in bounced out of him and he gets a I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6867">TS</a>]

01:54:29   really i thought it was I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6869">TS</a>]

01:54:31   great i really think he looks like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6871">TS</a>]

01:54:33   having fun he looks like Han Solo he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6873">TS</a>]

01:54:35   talks like on solo I you know not to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6875">TS</a>]

01:54:38   I a liked all of the decisions that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6878">TS</a>]

01:54:41   made about his character but I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6881">TS</a>]

01:54:43   can't fault him it all for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6883">TS</a>]

01:54:45   performance in this movie it's just is i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6885">TS</a>]

01:54:47   r8 John is grumbling but i'm gonna say i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6887">TS</a>]

01:54:50   delight in his performance in this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6890">TS</a>]

01:54:52   whether it be borrowing cheese Bokassa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6892">TS</a>]

01:54:55   really like this or just you know any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6895">TS</a>]

01:54:59   the other talking to John boyega and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6899">TS</a>]

01:55:01   Daisy Ridley I just I think it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6901">TS</a>]

01:55:03   it's yes he's a heavy he's a bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6903">TS</a>]

01:55:05   deus ex machina at a lot of these points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6905">TS</a>]

01:55:06   but that makes it that much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6906">TS</a>]

01:55:08   meaningful when he gets killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6908">TS</a>]

01:55:10   you know it's it is sort of like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6910">TS</a>]

01:55:12   gonna we're gonna anchor you in from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6912">TS</a>]

01:55:14   this character that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6914">TS</a>]

01:55:15   so in love we're going to have him be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6915">TS</a>]

01:55:16   around to sort of explain what's what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6916">TS</a>]

01:55:18   going on but we're also not gonna let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6918">TS</a>]

01:55:20   you rely on him forever because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6920">TS</a>]

01:55:22   he's he's gotta roll to serve and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6922">TS</a>]

01:55:24   sort of you know ends up being this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6924">TS</a>]

01:55:26   film's obi-wan Kenobi you like up hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6926">TS</a>]

01:55:28   I'm the experience characters here for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6928">TS</a>]

01:55:30   you now you're on your own so I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6930">TS</a>]

01:55:33   thought he was deployed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6933">TS</a>]

01:55:35   well i know not everybody thinks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6935">TS</a>]

01:55:37   same thing but they're wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6937">TS</a>]

01:55:39   I think you hit the nail on the head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6939">TS</a>]

01:55:40   when you said he looks like Han Solo he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6940">TS</a>]

01:55:43   talks like console-like and that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6943">TS</a>]

01:55:45   is the the root of the problem areas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6945">TS</a>]

01:55:48   it's always going to be problematic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6948">TS</a>]

01:55:49   these things for a lot of reasons first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6949">TS</a>]

01:55:50   of all I mentioned before that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6950">TS</a>]

01:55:53   movie is nominated make it tries to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6953">TS</a>]

01:55:55   everybody into actual characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6955">TS</a>]

01:55:56   including groups that are traditionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6956">TS</a>]

01:55:58   not allowed to be actual characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6958">TS</a>]

01:56:00   which includes women sadly but also old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6960">TS</a>]

01:56:02   people most of the time when there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6962">TS</a>]

01:56:04   character the age of these actors in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6964">TS</a>]

01:56:06   movies they're defining characteristic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6966">TS</a>]

01:56:07   is that they're old they're old and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6967">TS</a>]

01:56:09   their wives or their old and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6969">TS</a>]

01:56:10   character that I and so they they fill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6970">TS</a>]

01:56:12   the role of the old person Harrison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6972">TS</a>]

01:56:14   forward and and and Carrie Fisher are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6974">TS</a>]

01:56:16   not in this movie primarily as old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6976">TS</a>]

01:56:18   people they are playing characters with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6978">TS</a>]

01:56:20   with particular roles which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6980">TS</a>]

01:56:21   refreshing and great and it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6981">TS</a>]

01:56:23   bit weird because I said when do old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6983">TS</a>]

01:56:25   people get roles that this old in movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6985">TS</a>]

01:56:27   that aren't defined by their like I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6987">TS</a>]

01:56:29   grandfather i am the elder said max area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6989">TS</a>]

01:56:32   reg I'm the wise older first yeah max is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6992">TS</a>]

01:56:35   one of the other few examples where that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6995">TS</a>]

01:56:37   old person and in the the band of biker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/6997">TS</a>]

01:56:40   women is not defined by her being old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7000">TS</a>]

01:56:41   she just happens to be old but she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7001">TS</a>]

01:56:43   character anyway so that is all good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7003">TS</a>]

01:56:45   refreshing but when you have characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7005">TS</a>]

01:56:47   this old when people aged what they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7007">TS</a>]

01:56:50   how what they do with their life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7010">TS</a>]

01:56:53   necessarily has to change because aging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7013">TS</a>]

01:56:55   is a real thing and they asked Harrison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7015">TS</a>]

01:56:58   Ford in this movie to do pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7018">TS</a>]

01:57:00   every single thing in the same way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7020">TS</a>]

01:57:02   Han Solo did when he was 35 years old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7022">TS</a>]

01:57:05   wherever he was in the original trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7025">TS</a>]

01:57:06   and that I mean it's just it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7026">TS</a>]

01:57:09   difficult to pull off its heart it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7029">TS</a>]

01:57:11   plausibility wise you would imagine sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7031">TS</a>]

01:57:13   console is still around but he's older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7033">TS</a>]

01:57:15   now and has to go about his hunt soloing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7035">TS</a>]

01:57:17   in a different way rather than going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7037">TS</a>]

01:57:19   about Han soloing in essentially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7039">TS</a>]

01:57:21   same way he's always gone about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7041">TS</a>]

01:57:22   because he's clever with the blaster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7042">TS</a>]

01:57:24   he's good with talking like he did all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7044">TS</a>]

01:57:26   the things that he's down the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7046">TS</a>]

01:57:27   movies but try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7047">TS</a>]

01:57:28   to make a 73 year old like what it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7048">TS</a>]

01:57:30   down to is i'm not entirely sure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7050">TS</a>]

01:57:31   the actor was up for it and i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7051">TS</a>]

01:57:34   makes sense of the Act would be up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7054">TS</a>]

01:57:35   it because the actor is really old to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7055">TS</a>]

01:57:37   just like the character and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7057">TS</a>]

01:57:38   character would not be up to it either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7058">TS</a>]

01:57:41   and I think lake a much better one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7061">TS</a>]

01:57:43   because she's not in the movie that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7063">TS</a>]

01:57:44   and second because everything they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7064">TS</a>]

01:57:46   her doing was in a way that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7066">TS</a>]

01:57:48   totally appropriate for a person her age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7068">TS</a>]

01:57:49   she wasn't running through the death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7069">TS</a>]

01:57:51   star saying you know you came in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7071">TS</a>]

01:57:53   thing you're braver than I thought in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7073">TS</a>]

01:57:54   blasting you know she's not doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7074">TS</a>]

01:57:56   anymore because she's-she's to hold for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7076">TS</a>]

01:57:58   that you can't that's not her think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7078">TS</a>]

01:58:00   she's not swing across Kane's she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7080">TS</a>]

01:58:02   shooting people on you know endure but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7082">TS</a>]

01:58:05   it's it was not a good fit between his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7085">TS</a>]

01:58:09   character and what they asked him to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7089">TS</a>]

01:58:11   based on age now that said because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7091">TS</a>]

01:58:13   Harrison Ford and he's an amazing human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7093">TS</a>]

01:58:15   being he pulled off almost everything he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7095">TS</a>]

01:58:17   was asked to do pretty convincingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7097">TS</a>]

01:58:20   almost convincingly because he's he's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7100">TS</a>]

01:58:23   amazing person he's a good actor he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7103">TS</a>]

01:58:25   knows how solar really well he pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7105">TS</a>]

01:58:28   off a lot of funny lines that would only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7108">TS</a>]

01:58:29   be funny coming from Han Solo some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7109">TS</a>]

01:58:32   them would only be funny coming from an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7112">TS</a>]

01:58:34   older han Solo and added give it credit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7114">TS</a>]

01:58:37   for but I think the general sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7117">TS</a>]

01:58:38   cognitive dissonance has two parts one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7118">TS</a>]

01:58:40   is that we're just like I said I used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7120">TS</a>]

01:58:42   sing old people be at get to be actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7122">TS</a>]

01:58:43   characters aren't defined by the agents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7123">TS</a>]

01:58:45   the good happen and the bad half is Han [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7125">TS</a>]

01:58:48   Solo at this age though he may still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7128">TS</a>]

01:58:50   have the same attitude and be young at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7130">TS</a>]

01:58:51   heart would necessarily have to change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7131">TS</a>]

01:58:54   the way he Han Solo's and I felt like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7134">TS</a>]

01:58:55   had sold in this one too much like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7135">TS</a>]

01:58:57   old I'm gonna I'm gonna disagree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7137">TS</a>]

01:58:58   you because of the way that the script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7138">TS</a>]

01:59:01   is set up and and it's set up this way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7141">TS</a>]

01:59:04   for this reason i think which is Han [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7144">TS</a>]

01:59:06   Solo is regressing at he has gone into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7146">TS</a>]

01:59:08   spiral after losing his son and he saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7148">TS</a>]

01:59:12   and he's gone back to what he was doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7152">TS</a>]

01:59:14   his to any and he's not as good at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7154">TS</a>]

01:59:16   and he's getting in trouble and he's at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7156">TS</a>]

01:59:18   it and he's kinda down-on-his-luck and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7158">TS</a>]

01:59:20   he's run out of people to to swindle in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7160">TS</a>]

01:59:23   the galaxy and so I feel like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7163">TS</a>]

01:59:25   that's the script saying you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7165">TS</a>]

01:59:28   is what happens when you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7168">TS</a>]

01:59:29   regressed to his old ways and it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7169">TS</a>]

01:59:31   going so well and it's actually kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7171">TS</a>]

01:59:33   sad a little bit i mean it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7173">TS</a>]

01:59:34   great that it's on solo but although I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7174">TS</a>]

01:59:37   unclear whether he was ever really that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7177">TS</a>]

01:59:39   great at his job of being a being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7179">TS</a>]

01:59:41   scoundrel and a swindler cuz he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7181">TS</a>]

01:59:42   you know we have the death Marky he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7182">TS</a>]

01:59:44   always kind of been in trouble but but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7184">TS</a>]

01:59:46   think that you're meant to feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7186">TS</a>]

01:59:48   really a little bit of like really hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7188">TS</a>]

01:59:50   it's great to see that you're a swindler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7190">TS</a>]

01:59:52   again but it's also kind of sad because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7192">TS</a>]

01:59:53   when you're running away from a roll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7193">TS</a>]

01:59:55   right like that's right you are hero of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7195">TS</a>]

01:59:57   the rebellion you were a general how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7197">TS</a>]

01:59:59   hell'd it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7199">TS</a>]

01:59:59   hell'd it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7199">TS</a>]

02:00:00   you end up picking up trash it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7200">TS</a>]

02:00:01   it's like a marriage breaking up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7201">TS</a>]

02:00:02   the death of a child it is the envy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7202">TS</a>]

02:00:04   disappearance of their of their son and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7204">TS</a>]

02:00:06   the to him turning evil you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7206">TS</a>]

02:00:09   hit his relationship with layout fell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7209">TS</a>]

02:00:11   apart at that point he was kind of off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7211">TS</a>]

02:00:13   with his freighter and his crew most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7213">TS</a>]

02:00:16   whom got eaten by the by the freight and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7216">TS</a>]

02:00:19   it's just I mean I i buy it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7219">TS</a>]

02:00:22   that's what his story arc is sort of put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7222">TS</a>]

02:00:24   out to be and and so that makes me kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7224">TS</a>]

02:00:26   of except where Han is so I accept all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7226">TS</a>]

02:00:29   that that's good for the backstory my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7229">TS</a>]

02:00:31   product problematic part is not all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7231">TS</a>]

02:00:33   because like you said it works is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7233">TS</a>]

02:00:34   after the death of a child the break-up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7234">TS</a>]

02:00:35   him on the garbage ship which is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7235">TS</a>]

02:00:37   crappy him looking for the Millennium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7237">TS</a>]

02:00:38   Falcon to read to regain his lost youth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7238">TS</a>]

02:00:40   or whatever that all fits a spin and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7240">TS</a>]

02:00:43   general and competence on the ship and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7243">TS</a>]

02:00:45   his crew getting stuff from the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7245">TS</a>]

02:00:47   is his hands holding through the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7247">TS</a>]

02:00:49   the movie with Rey and Finn like running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7249">TS</a>]

02:00:52   around shooting at people exactly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7252">TS</a>]

02:00:54   is the han Solo and he is in there in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7254">TS</a>]

02:00:56   the mixture we could be in the mix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7256">TS</a>]

02:00:57   because I you know the different cookies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7257">TS</a>]

02:00:59   is still in this primer whatever he it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7259">TS</a>]

02:01:01   the actions in the plot of the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7261">TS</a>]

02:01:03   when he is essentially the mover and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7263">TS</a>]

02:01:04   shaker of console for abortions leading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7264">TS</a>]

02:01:08   the assault i can get them into the base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7268">TS</a>]

02:01:09   i can run around i can run down hallways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7269">TS</a>]

02:01:11   I can punch people i can shoot and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7271">TS</a>]

02:01:13   is old style hot so loving and it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7273">TS</a>]

02:01:15   be okay if you wanted to try to do those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7275">TS</a>]

02:01:16   things but he should be way worse at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7276">TS</a>]

02:01:18   and like it's not a big deal it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7278">TS</a>]

02:01:19   like it took me out of the movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7279">TS</a>]

02:01:20   like i said if anyone can pull it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7280">TS</a>]

02:01:22   it's him and if I and if anyone's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7282">TS</a>]

02:01:24   buy into it it's going to be us who have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7284">TS</a>]

02:01:26   this incredible affection for the Han [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7286">TS</a>]

02:01:27   Solo character but it's it's borderline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7287">TS</a>]

02:01:30   like I really feel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7290">TS</a>]

02:01:31   what do you want you want him to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7291">TS</a>]

02:01:33   pants and say I'm too old for this crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7293">TS</a>]

02:01:36   get fast that he has like I said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7296">TS</a>]

02:01:38   have to as it as actual people get older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7298">TS</a>]

02:01:41   you have to find a way to go about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7301">TS</a>]

02:01:43   whatever it is you're trying to do in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7303">TS</a>]

02:01:44   different way like you have to become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7304">TS</a>]

02:01:46   more treacherous and Wiley and rely on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7306">TS</a>]

02:01:48   base he does that in any interpersonal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7308">TS</a>]

02:01:50   skills interpersonal seems he leans on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7310">TS</a>]

02:01:51   the fact that he's been around the block [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7311">TS</a>]

02:01:52   and he's not as stupid he was when in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7312">TS</a>]

02:01:54   the original they always figure out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7314">TS</a>]

02:01:56   papers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7316">TS</a>]

02:01:56   yes he's knows a thing or two he looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7316">TS</a>]

02:01:59   he looks at Ben and knows for a fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7319">TS</a>]

02:02:00   instantly this guy's not with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7320">TS</a>]

02:02:02   resistance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7322">TS</a>]

02:02:03   all right he is that is showing his age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7323">TS</a>]

02:02:05   and his wisdom and you could have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7325">TS</a>]

02:02:07   him in the movie in the same way does he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7327">TS</a>]

02:02:10   have to be with them running around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7330">TS</a>]

02:02:12   blasting setting charges and he's got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7332">TS</a>]

02:02:14   have the conversation at some point but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7334">TS</a>]

02:02:16   I feel like you could have you got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7336">TS</a>]

02:02:18   give him way to do is Han soloing in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7338">TS</a>]

02:02:20   way like it like sort of like a blue an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7340">TS</a>]

02:02:22   animal like you know hide its injury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7342">TS</a>]

02:02:24   when it has like a limp or something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7344">TS</a>]

02:02:26   not appear weak you have to have a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7346">TS</a>]

02:02:27   for him to hide all his frailties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7347">TS</a>]

02:02:29   instead of saying no he's at 70 whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7349">TS</a>]

02:02:31   he's still able to run down the hallways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7351">TS</a>]

02:02:33   of Death Star like things and black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7353">TS</a>]

02:02:35   people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7355">TS</a>]

02:02:35   what about it it's a fantasy movie he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7355">TS</a>]

02:02:38   can be he can be old and spry and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7358">TS</a>]

02:02:40   opens fri people do plenty of that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7360">TS</a>]

02:02:42   so I mean not necessarily run around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7362">TS</a>]

02:02:43   punching people with doing things but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7363">TS</a>]

02:02:45   like there are there are exceptions to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7365">TS</a>]

02:02:47   every rule and I don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7367">TS</a>]

02:02:48   necessarily you have to say it follows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7368">TS</a>]

02:02:49   is really really it is actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7369">TS</a>]

02:02:51   annual with the in-universe thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7371">TS</a>]

02:02:53   don't know you can explain that away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7373">TS</a>]

02:02:54   right but I I feel like just the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7374">TS</a>]

02:02:56   real problem with it is that the actor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7376">TS</a>]

02:02:57   the actor himself if you don't know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7377">TS</a>]

02:03:00   he was holding not my thing for me is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7380">TS</a>]

02:03:01   like he sold everything he did he know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7381">TS</a>]

02:03:03   he don't try to sell it but I just feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7383">TS</a>]

02:03:05   like he's not I don't know like I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7385">TS</a>]

02:03:08   love the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7388">TS</a>]

02:03:09   yeah I i if he the actor is the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7389">TS</a>]

02:03:12   is if the actor was more young feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7392">TS</a>]

02:03:14   then we wouldn't even care about his age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7394">TS</a>]

02:03:15   if he looked like he was 65 and ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7395">TS</a>]

02:03:18   around like a thirty-year-old would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7398">TS</a>]

02:03:19   fine but he looks like he is his actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7399">TS</a>]

02:03:21   age and i don't mean it in a really vary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7401">TS</a>]

02:03:25   from scene to scene some scenes I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7405">TS</a>]

02:03:26   like he's doing his console in the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7406">TS</a>]

02:03:28   way and I completely by the other scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7408">TS</a>]

02:03:30   he seems the actor seemed like it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7410">TS</a>]

02:03:31   little bit time when he did break his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7411">TS</a>]

02:03:33   legs yeah i mean he actually yeah it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7413">TS</a>]

02:03:35   it did actually cause physical trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7415">TS</a>]

02:03:37   wanted it more about Han Solo little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7417">TS</a>]

02:03:39   about about Leia to she she has fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7419">TS</a>]

02:03:43   scenes more than more than Luke fewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7423">TS</a>]

02:03:45   than hon I thought Carrie Fisher I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7425">TS</a>]

02:03:48   it did a good job i went when they said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7428">TS</a>]

02:03:50   they were going to be in this movie I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7430">TS</a>]

02:03:51   thought is Carrie Fisher going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7431">TS</a>]

02:03:53   going to be up to it and how is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7433">TS</a>]

02:03:54   going to work she it in the other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7434">TS</a>]

02:03:58   I've seen her in recently she's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7438">TS</a>]

02:04:00   physically different than like like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7440">TS</a>]

02:04:03   totally different person than she was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7443">TS</a>]

02:04:04   the early eighties but I I thought she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7444">TS</a>]

02:04:09   did a great job as being recognizably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7449">TS</a>]

02:04:12   Leia and that she's got her job as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7452">TS</a>]

02:04:14   general and the resistance and she's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7454">TS</a>]

02:04:16   a map and she's got admiral ackbar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7456">TS</a>]

02:04:18   she's got Greg Grunberg and they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7458">TS</a>]

02:04:20   figure it all out can like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7460">TS</a>]

02:04:22   children along an old lady and she tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7462">TS</a>]

02:04:25   other people what to do maybe she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7465">TS</a>]

02:04:26   mattress yeah she's the Mon Mothma of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7466">TS</a>]

02:04:29   the new trilogy i really wanted her to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7469">TS</a>]

02:04:30   call Hansel flyboy just once just once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7470">TS</a>]

02:04:33   huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7473">TS</a>]

02:04:33   I'm just said that well there's always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7473">TS</a>]

02:04:36   one thing you still drive me crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7476">TS</a>]

02:04:38   wasn't you're still a scoundrel that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7478">TS</a>]

02:04:41   that line seems like it should have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7481">TS</a>]

02:04:43   no I think that hurt she fit in very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7483">TS</a>]

02:04:46   nicely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7486">TS</a>]

02:04:47   the thing that kept coming back to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7487">TS</a>]

02:04:48   was watching at the second time was her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7488">TS</a>]

02:04:51   eyes they they do a very very nice job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7491">TS</a>]

02:04:55   of centering her in the frame and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7495">TS</a>]

02:04:57   framing her in such a way that you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7497">TS</a>]

02:04:59   basically the way that she communicates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7499">TS</a>]

02:05:02   with her eyes and you know people change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7502">TS</a>]

02:05:04   throughout their lifetime and get older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7504">TS</a>]

02:05:08   however electroshock therapy like think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7508">TS</a>]

02:05:10   things happen beyond our control to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7510">TS</a>]

02:05:12   change our body type and change the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7512">TS</a>]

02:05:14   we look but through and through like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7514">TS</a>]

02:05:18   the eyes of Princess Leia are the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7518">TS</a>]

02:05:20   it's the same person behind the and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7520">TS</a>]

02:05:23   the same looks and the same same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7523">TS</a>]

02:05:26   interactions i think they did a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7526">TS</a>]

02:05:27   is a really smart choice basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7527">TS</a>]

02:05:30   having her do the stuff that she she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7530">TS</a>]

02:05:33   doing I think they they maintain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7533">TS</a>]

02:05:36   they highlight just how much of a badass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7536">TS</a>]

02:05:38   Leia is in her own right without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7538">TS</a>]

02:05:41   necessarily being to run down corridor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7541">TS</a>]

02:05:44   she was never she was never really the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7544">TS</a>]

02:05:46   person who wanted to run down corridor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7546">TS</a>]

02:05:47   she just ended up there and she's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7547">TS</a>]

02:05:49   of like all right you know I can handle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7549">TS</a>]

02:05:50   this but i prefer to be you know running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7550">TS</a>]

02:05:53   a battlefield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7553">TS</a>]

02:05:54   I think she's not even model in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7554">TS</a>]

02:05:56   ways she's more like the the general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7556">TS</a>]

02:05:57   Dodonna from New Hope or participating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7557">TS</a>]

02:06:00   from Return of the Jedi like she's she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7560">TS</a>]

02:06:02   not just like Martha was a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7562">TS</a>]

02:06:04   political figure in his state she's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7564">TS</a>]

02:06:06   the ground she's running like ops she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7566">TS</a>]

02:06:08   in charge of she's on she's on the graph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7568">TS</a>]

02:06:10   that lands well that's true rewriting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7570">TS</a>]

02:06:12   thanks she's on she's a military [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7572">TS</a>]

02:06:14   personnel not a political that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7574">TS</a>]

02:06:16   dramatic personnel and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7576">TS</a>]

02:06:17   awesome yeah i think the best use of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7577">TS</a>]

02:06:19   in this and the best part of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7579">TS</a>]

02:06:21   relationship with Han is surrounding the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7581">TS</a>]

02:06:24   essentially like jason said I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7584">TS</a>]

02:06:26   the death of the child thing where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7586">TS</a>]

02:06:27   child isn't actually dead she sends her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7587">TS</a>]

02:06:30   onto his death because like there twice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7590">TS</a>]

02:06:33   yeah there was that one over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7593">TS</a>]

02:06:35   they're meeting and love their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7595">TS</a>]

02:06:36   long-awaited meeting like the way they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7596">TS</a>]

02:06:38   come to reconciliation and like her last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7598">TS</a>]

02:06:40   hug with him or whatever so basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7600">TS</a>]

02:06:41   the points but she says and he's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7601">TS</a>]

02:06:43   as if she was had been resisting saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7603">TS</a>]

02:06:44   it up to that point says when you come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7604">TS</a>]

02:06:46   back bring our son with you which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7606">TS</a>]

02:06:47   basically saying don't come back without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7607">TS</a>]

02:06:49   our son and and really it's like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7609">TS</a>]

02:06:52   really what it's saying is if it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7612">TS</a>]

02:06:54   out that our son can't be brought back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7614">TS</a>]

02:06:57   then I don't I don't want to live on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7617">TS</a>]

02:07:00   anymore and neither just hon like so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7620">TS</a>]

02:07:02   goes there saying that because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7622">TS</a>]

02:07:03   they they showed haunted ample [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7623">TS</a>]

02:07:05   opportunity to leave or shoot anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7625">TS</a>]

02:07:07   ever had made the decision said I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7627">TS</a>]

02:07:09   want to continue to live in a world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7629">TS</a>]

02:07:11   where my son is like this so I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7631">TS</a>]

02:07:13   they're coming back with them or he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7633">TS</a>]

02:07:14   gonna kill me and I'm I'm bringing it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7634">TS</a>]

02:07:16   a head like that on purpose and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7636">TS</a>]

02:07:17   because I'm gonna come back as a force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7637">TS</a>]

02:07:19   ghost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7639">TS</a>]

02:07:19   yeah she doesn't she doesn't she has two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7639">TS</a>]

02:07:22   conversations with him which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7642">TS</a>]

02:07:23   basically just go get him and if you die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7643">TS</a>]

02:07:26   then you know well which is afternoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7646">TS</a>]

02:07:29   it's just well if you don't know i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7649">TS</a>]

02:07:32   want to do something that's anymore yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7652">TS</a>]

02:07:34   yeah and i think i think they did a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7654">TS</a>]

02:07:35   job of showing that even though these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7655">TS</a>]

02:07:37   two people have been separated by time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7657">TS</a>]

02:07:39   and by you know this gulf but like of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7659">TS</a>]

02:07:42   losing a child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7662">TS</a>]

02:07:43   they're still I think they still love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7663">TS</a>]

02:07:46   each other yes it's clear and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7666">TS</a>]

02:07:47   still you know they're not like at each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7667">TS</a>]

02:07:50   other's throats or like I and there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7670">TS</a>]

02:07:53   animosity between them now there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7673">TS</a>]

02:07:55   a ver there's grief in their sadness but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7675">TS</a>]

02:07:57   like it's great they're like I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7677">TS</a>]

02:07:59   people some people who were going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7679">TS</a>]

02:08:01   this worried about like that how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7681">TS</a>]

02:08:02   that relationship survive and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7682">TS</a>]

02:08:04   want to see them you know like angry at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7684">TS</a>]

02:08:07   each other you know and and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7687">TS</a>]

02:08:09   here I think it's much its much it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7689">TS</a>]

02:08:11   sweet is bittersweet right like it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7691">TS</a>]

02:08:14   that edge to it and I and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7694">TS</a>]

02:08:15   that's i really appreciated that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7695">TS</a>]

02:08:17   could maintain some of the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7697">TS</a>]

02:08:18   relationship while also acknowledging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7698">TS</a>]

02:08:20   that there is this tremendous sadness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7700">TS</a>]

02:08:22   between them so it was I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7702">TS</a>]

02:08:25   it was pretty definitely handle okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7705">TS</a>]

02:08:26   we've got one other classic charger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7706">TS</a>]

02:08:28   character that i didn't mention who we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7708">TS</a>]

02:08:30   have to talk about a window seat review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7710">TS</a>]

02:08:31   on r2d2 but they don't do a lot but we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7711">TS</a>]

02:08:33   have talked about you basha we because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7713">TS</a>]

02:08:35   this is like Chewbacca maybe I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7715">TS</a>]

02:08:38   loved you back so much and so worried he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7718">TS</a>]

02:08:39   was gonna die when they split up when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7719">TS</a>]

02:08:41   when he and Hans yes put up a quick one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7721">TS</a>]

02:08:44   of them is going to die please don't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7724">TS</a>]

02:08:45   too hard on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7725">TS</a>]

02:08:46   don't please don't kill your pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7726">TS</a>]

02:08:47   because you already killed once the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7727">TS</a>]

02:08:49   Expanded Universe I'm still angry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7729">TS</a>]

02:08:50   that that's when I stopped reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7730">TS</a>]

02:08:52   books those moments are always like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7732">TS</a>]

02:08:54   moment when they split up like in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7734">TS</a>]

02:08:56   respects use whatever comes over for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7736">TS</a>]

02:08:58   people to be able to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7738">TS</a>]

02:08:59   something ominous gonna happen but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7739">TS</a>]

02:09:01   other respects that was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7741">TS</a>]

02:09:02   completely I feel like everybody knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7742">TS</a>]

02:09:04   like take the detonator everybody and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7744">TS</a>]

02:09:06   hope you can say it's like oh you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7746">TS</a>]

02:09:08   that's a better idea let's do the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7748">TS</a>]

02:09:09   it just stood out so much you know now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7749">TS</a>]

02:09:11   is the time when something but and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7751">TS</a>]

02:09:13   that point I was like 50 50 which one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7753">TS</a>]

02:09:15   was gonna I kept teasing to Pakistan but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7755">TS</a>]

02:09:17   when I thought again getting back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7757">TS</a>]

02:09:18   actress which I couldn't help thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7758">TS</a>]

02:09:19   about a little bit is the way it's peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7759">TS</a>]

02:09:22   mayhew right yeah the way he the way he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7762">TS</a>]

02:09:24   runs he's in this that invisible blow my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7764">TS</a>]

02:09:27   theories and he's in that suit no I my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7767">TS</a>]

02:09:29   understanding is when it when I went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7769">TS</a>]

02:09:31   school when its walking he it's not him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7771">TS</a>]

02:09:34   because he's so then so then it's up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7774">TS</a>]

02:09:36   thing that has already come to pass like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7776">TS</a>]

02:09:38   basically the way Peter Mayhew and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7778">TS</a>]

02:09:40   original trilogy runs around this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7780">TS</a>]

02:09:42   jewbacca and handles his weapon is weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7782">TS</a>]

02:09:45   are very kind of hunched shoulders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7785">TS</a>]

02:09:47   elbows tucked in web intelligence is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7787">TS</a>]

02:09:50   defined as long as it's here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7790">TS</a>]

02:09:51   yeah right and so any future Chewbacca [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7791">TS</a>]

02:09:54   whether it's the one in this movie that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7794">TS</a>]

02:09:56   apparently wasn't Peter Mayhew or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7796">TS</a>]

02:09:57   future pocket was a really really long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7797">TS</a>]

02:09:59   time has to now imitate peter mayhew his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7799">TS</a>]

02:10:01   body type granddaughter like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7801">TS</a>]

02:10:03   actor inhabited these things actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7803">TS</a>]

02:10:04   makes a difference you know that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7804">TS</a>]

02:10:06   because we all accept that is that's how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7806">TS</a>]

02:10:09   to behave so whoever was in the big suit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7809">TS</a>]

02:10:11   running around here did an admirable job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7811">TS</a>]

02:10:13   of imitating the weird body language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7813">TS</a>]

02:10:15   appear that that not every tall person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7815">TS</a>]

02:10:17   would happen if you put a big tall NBA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7817">TS</a>]

02:10:19   player in there they have a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7819">TS</a>]

02:10:21   body language different sort of carriage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7821">TS</a>]

02:10:22   a different gate a different way of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7822">TS</a>]

02:10:23   holding their their gun and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7823">TS</a>]

02:10:25   like that and this jewbacca was although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7825">TS</a>]

02:10:28   he had a very minor role was just some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7828">TS</a>]

02:10:30   you know he wasn't a big actor our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7830">TS</a>]

02:10:32   player in this thing he was Chewbacca [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7832">TS</a>]

02:10:34   through and through and i was i was glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7834">TS</a>]

02:10:36   to see that he's the character that age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7836">TS</a>]

02:10:38   the best don't you think yeah absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7838">TS</a>]

02:10:39   absolutely also the you know we get will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7839">TS</a>]

02:10:41   be there very very many humorous moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7841">TS</a>]

02:10:44   when when they're on the Millennium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7844">TS</a>]

02:10:47   Falcon when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7847">TS</a>]

02:10:49   rephrase interacting with him and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7849">TS</a>]

02:10:51   and nobody gets patched up at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7851">TS</a>]

02:10:53   well well first mothers daughters 1st [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7853">TS</a>]

02:10:55   John boyega is taking is taking care of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7855">TS</a>]

02:10:56   him and says he's almost killed me six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7856">TS</a>]

02:10:59   times nothing i have a problem with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7859">TS</a>]

02:11:00   and then later at the end where he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7860">TS</a>]

02:11:02   angrier route that you must have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7862">TS</a>]

02:11:04   very brave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7864">TS</a>]

02:11:05   yeah it's kind of like Julius enjoys a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7865">TS</a>]

02:11:08   big baby is a little cold in here a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7868">TS</a>]

02:11:11   trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7871">TS</a>]

02:11:11   yeah what do you mean you're cold yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7871">TS</a>]

02:11:14   what do you mean you're cold yeah let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7874">TS</a>]

02:11:16   the wookie well he isn't here with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7876">TS</a>]

02:11:18   smell so yeah it was great you know hon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7878">TS</a>]

02:11:22   as great as the Han Han and Chewie are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7882">TS</a>]

02:11:25   always kind of a unit right like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7885">TS</a>]

02:11:27   know and i think you couldn't have had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7887">TS</a>]

02:11:29   one without the other in it was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7889">TS</a>]

02:11:31   painful to see Chewbacca i think at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7891">TS</a>]

02:11:33   end of they don't give them quite enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7893">TS</a>]

02:11:34   time to like quite enough time to grieve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7894">TS</a>]

02:11:36   before our tools like oh yeah and sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7896">TS</a>]

02:11:38   that guy was great but like hey remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7898">TS</a>]

02:11:40   Luke Skywalker we're going to find him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7900">TS</a>]

02:11:41   now but like it is kind of painful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7901">TS</a>]

02:11:43   see like in some ways chewy flying the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7903">TS</a>]

02:11:45   falken knowing that his you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7905">TS</a>]

02:11:47   not flying the coop know he flies it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7907">TS</a>]

02:11:49   way to rescue them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7909">TS</a>]

02:11:50   he finally went there when they dragged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7910">TS</a>]

02:11:51   him out and look at that point is its is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7911">TS</a>]

02:11:53   kind of a bit like you know it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7913">TS</a>]

02:11:56   it's sad to know that those two will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7916">TS</a>]

02:11:58   never be together again in the same way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7918">TS</a>]

02:11:59   that i actually think you know i was i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7919">TS</a>]

02:12:01   was thinking to myself that sad that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7921">TS</a>]

02:12:03   will never get see Honolulu kerosene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7923">TS</a>]

02:12:05   yeah like that's kind of a bummer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7925">TS</a>]

02:12:07   because like I was like looking forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7927">TS</a>]

02:12:08   to that Lake you know that that slice of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7928">TS</a>]

02:12:11   nostalgia but there's there's plenty of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7931">TS</a>]

02:12:12   other well I have they had hon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7932">TS</a>]

02:12:14   reminiscing about Luke yeah I know Luke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7934">TS</a>]

02:12:16   he was real the force is real and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7936">TS</a>]

02:12:17   that's all you know he gets to play that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7937">TS</a>]

02:12:19   same without look there but at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7939">TS</a>]

02:12:20   it's clear it's a it's a call back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7940">TS</a>]

02:12:23   their relationship shortly i know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7943">TS</a>]

02:12:25   didn't he didn't forget about him Hans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7945">TS</a>]

02:12:26   draw job offer to ray is essentially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7946">TS</a>]

02:12:29   passing of the torch that makes it feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7949">TS</a>]

02:12:32   okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7952">TS</a>]

02:12:33   besides she likes you that that she ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7953">TS</a>]

02:12:35   up going off in the falken right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7955">TS</a>]

02:12:37   it's like the blessing of Han and Chewie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7957">TS</a>]

02:12:39   at least she didn't rate his closet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7959">TS</a>]

02:12:41   Lando style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7961">TS</a>]

02:12:42   yeah that's right hate is this is cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7962">TS</a>]

02:12:44   vests in here it's like cheering on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7964">TS</a>]

02:12:47   sheet goes up to me look at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7967">TS</a>]

02:12:49   she's got the hatzolah restaurant looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7969">TS</a>]

02:12:51   like one are you doing put it back that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7971">TS</a>]

02:12:55   we could go on for 90 hours and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7975">TS</a>]

02:12:56   not gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7976">TS</a>]

02:12:57   if there's anything else that you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7977">TS</a>]

02:12:59   like to talk about I've got a whole list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7979">TS</a>]

02:13:01   here but you know it's good i I'll say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7981">TS</a>]

02:13:03   also one thing which is lupita nyong'o [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7983">TS</a>]

02:13:07   as the voice of ma's the pirate who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7987">TS</a>]

02:13:11   the little orange lady with goggles who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7991">TS</a>]

02:13:14   is a in the in her little watering hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7994">TS</a>]

02:13:17   her little Cantina gets blown to hell by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/7997">TS</a>]

02:13:20   the first order i really enjoyed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8000">TS</a>]

02:13:23   character quite a bit i thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8003">TS</a>]

02:13:25   not she was fantastic that was a not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8005">TS</a>]

02:13:28   was dubious of that character sushi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8008">TS</a>]

02:13:30   high-character yeah and she really just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8010">TS</a>]

02:13:33   not like I for one thing I even though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8013">TS</a>]

02:13:36   knew it was her you you know it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8016">TS</a>]

02:13:39   like I she was just such a good job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8019">TS</a>]

02:13:42   doing that character as that character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8022">TS</a>]

02:13:43   rather than me getting distracted by who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8023">TS</a>]

02:13:45   the who the actor was and just yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8025">TS</a>]

02:13:48   was you know it's not maybe Yoda level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8028">TS</a>]

02:13:51   but like there was definitely a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8031">TS</a>]

02:13:52   this is probably the best each character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8032">TS</a>]

02:13:54   i feel like i've seen the Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8034">TS</a>]

02:13:56   movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8036">TS</a>]

02:13:57   well it's well-written that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8037">TS</a>]

02:13:58   biggest thing about cgi carry not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8038">TS</a>]

02:14:00   reductions and any any character that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8040">TS</a>]

02:14:02   not you know traditionally human is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8042">TS</a>]

02:14:04   they have to be well written and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8044">TS</a>]

02:14:06   have to be identifiable and mozz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8046">TS</a>]

02:14:09   character I mean serves a very important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8049">TS</a>]

02:14:11   plot point in this movie um she really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8051">TS</a>]

02:14:13   you know she she unites ray with Luke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8053">TS</a>]

02:14:16   Skywalker's a original light saber a que [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8056">TS</a>]

02:14:19   Anakin Skywalker's lightsaber know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8059">TS</a>]

02:14:21   thought was lost to the ages and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8061">TS</a>]

02:14:23   does so in a way while also speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8063">TS</a>]

02:14:27   about the force in a way that I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8067">TS</a>]

02:14:29   think we've really heard the4 spoken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8069">TS</a>]

02:14:30   about in quite a long time were were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8070">TS</a>]

02:14:34   finally away from medical Orion battles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8074">TS</a>]

02:14:36   and it's just like the force lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8076">TS</a>]

02:14:38   through go through all living things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8078">TS</a>]

02:14:40   the forces alive and don't be afraid to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8080">TS</a>]

02:14:43   let it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8083">TS</a>]

02:14:44   hint hint you're probably repressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8084">TS</a>]

02:14:45   something and closing your eyes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8085">TS</a>]

02:14:47   climactic battle might actually do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8087">TS</a>]

02:14:49   some good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8089">TS</a>]

02:14:50   oh yeah lets a can we talk about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8090">TS</a>]

02:14:54   class said climactic battle sure because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8094">TS</a>]

02:14:57   so we talked a little bit about Finn's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8097">TS</a>]

02:14:59   role in that infant protecting ray while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8099">TS</a>]

02:15:03   she's out cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8103">TS</a>]

02:15:05   my one of my favorite moments from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8105">TS</a>]

02:15:08   film is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8108">TS</a>]

02:15:10   raised force grab of Anakin's lightsaber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8110">TS</a>]

02:15:12   where I knew it was coming but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8112">TS</a>]

02:15:15   didn't end is the special the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8115">TS</a>]

02:15:17   time around I especially knew it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8117">TS</a>]

02:15:18   coming but every time I get chills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8118">TS</a>]

02:15:22   well the way it's set up I i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8122">TS</a>]

02:15:23   expecting it to be like he tries to pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8123">TS</a>]

02:15:25   it toward him and it goes toward her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8125">TS</a>]

02:15:26   instead but instead they're i guess in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8126">TS</a>]

02:15:29   line so if he it pulls toward him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8129">TS</a>]

02:15:31   he's like I'll catch it and flies right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8131">TS</a>]

02:15:33   on past him and go stir it boomerangs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8133">TS</a>]

02:15:35   around like it takes a little a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8135">TS</a>]

02:15:36   bend and beautiful the direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8136">TS</a>]

02:15:38   yeah that's a very nice moment and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8138">TS</a>]

02:15:41   aight to me it feels earned especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8141">TS</a>]

02:15:44   after everything that's happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8144">TS</a>]

02:15:45   throughout the entire film it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8145">TS</a>]

02:15:48   those it's a shot that could have gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8148">TS</a>]

02:15:50   terribly wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8150">TS</a>]

02:15:51   where people could have been like oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8151">TS</a>]

02:15:53   know the girl has the lightsaber and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8153">TS</a>]

02:15:56   what the hell and how does she know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8156">TS</a>]

02:15:57   to use the Force all of a sudden Luke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8157">TS</a>]

02:15:59   could do that for like two movies and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8159">TS</a>]

02:16:03   i really think that the way that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8163">TS</a>]

02:16:06   built ray up and the way that they sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8166">TS</a>]

02:16:08   of tested and played with her powers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8168">TS</a>]

02:16:09   while she's captive on and and all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8169">TS</a>]

02:16:13   the growth that she's had throughout the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8173">TS</a>]

02:16:14   movie it's just it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8174">TS</a>]

02:16:16   there was a well-balanced final battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8176">TS</a>]

02:16:18   because Rho Rilo is injured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8178">TS</a>]

02:16:22   first of all Kyle he's not very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8182">TS</a>]

02:16:24   she's a second of all land and I'd like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8184">TS</a>]

02:16:27   you know so and she has demonstrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8187">TS</a>]

02:16:29   fighting skills with her stick so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8189">TS</a>]

02:16:32   not as if she's like I've never fought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8192">TS</a>]

02:16:33   anyone before and maybe she hasn't used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8193">TS</a>]

02:16:35   a blaster but she's good with a stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8195">TS</a>]

02:16:37   and so the combination of her getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8197">TS</a>]

02:16:39   her feet under her having a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8199">TS</a>]

02:16:41   of horsepower is going on and him being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8201">TS</a>]

02:16:44   injured and angry and just generally a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8204">TS</a>]

02:16:46   mess and not good at his job and it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8206">TS</a>]

02:16:49   having like the you know it like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8209">TS</a>]

02:16:51   it's believe I heard some people say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8211">TS</a>]

02:16:53   it's I'm implausible he could defeat her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8213">TS</a>]

02:16:55   why didn't he like you know he could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8215">TS</a>]

02:16:56   stop the last blaster bolts and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8216">TS</a>]

02:16:58   do that he was a mess by the time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8218">TS</a>]

02:17:00   we add that battle took place and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8220">TS</a>]

02:17:02   generally is about you know right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8222">TS</a>]

02:17:04   don't takes a toll on you he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8224">TS</a>]

02:17:07   message mentally was a message like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8227">TS</a>]

02:17:08   hitting himself when he was injured he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8228">TS</a>]

02:17:09   had been shot he had already bought thin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8229">TS</a>]

02:17:12   and you know it defeated him but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8232">TS</a>]

02:17:14   taking a couple of swipes during that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8234">TS</a>]

02:17:16   time and Ray was essentially unharmed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8236">TS</a>]

02:17:18   that point and just pull the lightsaber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8238">TS</a>]

02:17:21   underhand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8241">TS</a>]

02:17:22   no she would you know is on her second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8242">TS</a>]

02:17:24   win there so what I really like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8244">TS</a>]

02:17:26   battle and I'll I've got this was on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8246">TS</a>]

02:17:29   good decision section a lot of good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8249">TS</a>]

02:17:30   decisions one speaking of the mask and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8250">TS</a>]

02:17:34   everything taking off i'm so glad i took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8254">TS</a>]

02:17:35   the mask off because I didn't want them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8255">TS</a>]

02:17:37   i didn't want them to hide his parentage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8257">TS</a>]

02:17:39   for really long on I didn't want him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8259">TS</a>]

02:17:40   be in the masks for the whole movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8260">TS</a>]

02:17:42   I so did not want him to die in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8262">TS</a>]

02:17:44   climactic battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8264">TS</a>]

02:17:45   well I'm so glad me and so nose and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8265">TS</a>]

02:17:47   and how do you have them not die they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8267">TS</a>]

02:17:49   separated them with an earthquake like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8269">TS</a>]

02:17:50   find funny and the reason to get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8270">TS</a>]

02:17:52   shit such a jl brooms story move but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8272">TS</a>]

02:17:56   also love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8276">TS</a>]

02:17:57   yeah yeah because I just didn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8277">TS</a>]

02:17:58   because if he died like this don't Darth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8278">TS</a>]

02:18:00   Maul him plz like he's such a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8280">TS</a>]

02:18:02   character i'm used to live right kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8282">TS</a>]

02:18:04   a nap know it's funny you mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8284">TS</a>]

02:18:05   raise power tonight i did want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8285">TS</a>]

02:18:07   mention the Jedi mind-trick seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8287">TS</a>]

02:18:08   especially notable because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8288">TS</a>]

02:18:09   Stormtrooper she mind tricks is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8289">TS</a>]

02:18:10   apparently Daniel Craig yeah which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8290">TS</a>]

02:18:12   excellent and also just a hilarious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8292">TS</a>]

02:18:15   scene where it doesn't work at first and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8295">TS</a>]

02:18:18   then of course those words will tighten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8298">TS</a>]

02:18:19   these are strengths she's learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8299">TS</a>]

02:18:21   everything where she yeah she goes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8301">TS</a>]

02:18:23   realize it turns out you didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8303">TS</a>]

02:18:25   need that much of their help like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8305">TS</a>]

02:18:27   scene where finn like I'm gonna find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8307">TS</a>]

02:18:28   we're gonna find her and consoles keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8308">TS</a>]

02:18:30   like nodding behind him look look look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8310">TS</a>]

02:18:33   and it's like wow she's coming around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8313">TS</a>]

02:18:35   she's fine she doesn't need us an open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8315">TS</a>]

02:18:37   on the other server version of like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8317">TS</a>]

02:18:39   they're gonna go and rescue her because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8319">TS</a>]

02:18:40   she's trapped but their rescue is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8320">TS</a>]

02:18:42   i'll meet you after you've already used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8322">TS</a>]

02:18:44   to jump right exactly which is melon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8324">TS</a>]

02:18:46   and it gives them time to to set some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8326">TS</a>]

02:18:49   more charges and potential and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8329">TS</a>]

02:18:50   inevitably help the resistance not die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8330">TS</a>]

02:18:53   which is awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8333">TS</a>]

02:18:54   one other thing about that lightsaber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8334">TS</a>]

02:18:56   battle that i really enjoyed was raised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8336">TS</a>]

02:18:59   fighting technique i don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8339">TS</a>]

02:19:01   people noticed this but the way that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8341">TS</a>]

02:19:03   swings the lightsaber is absolutely cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8343">TS</a>]

02:19:06   from her times you hurt i'm using the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8346">TS</a>]

02:19:08   corner staff where she is passionate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8348">TS</a>]

02:19:09   about down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8349">TS</a>]

02:19:10   yeah she taps top down and she tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8350">TS</a>]

02:19:13   stew to hit with its establishment can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8353">TS</a>]

02:19:16   do you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8356">TS</a>]

02:19:17   yeah exactly it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8357">TS</a>]

02:19:18   traditional saber fighting and likewise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8358">TS</a>]

02:19:22   when thin handles the saber it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8362">TS</a>]

02:19:25   different technique as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8365">TS</a>]

02:19:27   oh yeah yeah no I mean I I I picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8367">TS</a>]

02:19:31   that he probably had training in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8371">TS</a>]

02:19:33   vibro acts that we see you earlier in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8373">TS</a>]

02:19:35   exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8375">TS</a>]

02:19:35   another storm trooper but i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8375">TS</a>]

02:19:38   appreciate that they there there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8378">TS</a>]

02:19:40   multiple ways of handling lightsabers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8380">TS</a>]

02:19:42   that are shown very clearly and none of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8382">TS</a>]

02:19:45   them look over the top like oh I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8385">TS</a>]

02:19:47   skilled with a lightsaber i've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8387">TS</a>]

02:19:48   using it my whole like even one ray taps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8388">TS</a>]

02:19:51   into the forest and basically goes all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8391">TS</a>]

02:19:52   avatar State on on read on Ren she still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8392">TS</a>]

02:19:57   herself she's still fighting like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8397">TS</a>]

02:19:59   herself she has she may have additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8399">TS</a>]

02:20:01   spirit additional fire behind her but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8401">TS</a>]

02:20:03   she's not suddenly a light saber genius [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8403">TS</a>]

02:20:06   none of them fight like Jedi not well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8406">TS</a>]

02:20:08   and Wren has got the he's got the twirly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8408">TS</a>]

02:20:10   stuff it's like he's like he learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8410">TS</a>]

02:20:12   enough to like learn like it's like been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8412">TS</a>]

02:20:14   flipping you learn off the extra that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8414">TS</a>]

02:20:16   exactly what i thought it was kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8416">TS</a>]

02:20:17   gotta move but it's not gonna spin he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8417">TS</a>]

02:20:19   not very good tho cuz yeah but you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8419">TS</a>]

02:20:21   some hits he get like that he shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8421">TS</a>]

02:20:23   from a person like thin who is trained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8423">TS</a>]

02:20:25   as a storm trooper but not like doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8425">TS</a>]

02:20:28   shouldn't know how to use a light saber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8428">TS</a>]

02:20:29   and he's he doesn't know yeah he's he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8429">TS</a>]

02:20:31   learned a little bit like enough to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8431">TS</a>]

02:20:33   off and when you're fighting probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8433">TS</a>]

02:20:34   bunch of other people who don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8434">TS</a>]

02:20:36   lightsabers you're probably pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8436">TS</a>]

02:20:37   awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8437">TS</a>]

02:20:38   before we get to to the end here on i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8438">TS</a>]

02:20:41   had 10 died and i do want to hear John's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8441">TS</a>]

02:20:43   lists because that's very exciting but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8443">TS</a>]

02:20:45   I'm before we get there I andy serkis is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8445">TS</a>]

02:20:49   performing snow because the CGI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8449">TS</a>]

02:20:50   character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8450">TS</a>]

02:20:51   ok he's in a question he's in am like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8451">TS</a>]

02:20:54   giant hologram is he giant or is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8454">TS</a>]

02:20:57   hologram giant a hologram is Jack I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8457">TS</a>]

02:20:59   think I was my friend ego hologram [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8459">TS</a>]

02:21:01   yeah i guess the competition examination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8461">TS</a>]

02:21:03   however this the Emperor shinehead right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8463">TS</a>]

02:21:06   yeah the Emperor's head was not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8466">TS</a>]

02:21:08   that big an import it was weird because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8468">TS</a>]

02:21:09   he walks in the room at first because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8469">TS</a>]

02:21:11   you don't know it's a hologram it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8471">TS</a>]

02:21:12   yeah like there are challenges no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8472">TS</a>]

02:21:14   question exactly it's like a potential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8474">TS</a>]

02:21:16   most happens you're angry and agree yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8476">TS</a>]

02:21:19   it was my major question so this deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8479">TS</a>]

02:21:21   though somewhat Cecilia yes no cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8481">TS</a>]

02:21:23   interesting i smoke is the person who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8483">TS</a>]

02:21:26   landed least for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8486">TS</a>]

02:21:28   integrated characters but i also have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8488">TS</a>]

02:21:31   remember that in episode 4 Palpatine is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8491">TS</a>]

02:21:35   really you know non-existent yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8495">TS</a>]

02:21:38   I'm i am having faith especially because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8498">TS</a>]

02:21:42   the rest of the movie was so good i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8502">TS</a>]

02:21:44   choosing to have faith that all of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8504">TS</a>]

02:21:47   of smokes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8507">TS</a>]

02:21:48   problems in this movie will be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8508">TS</a>]

02:21:50   smoothed out with episode 8 when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8510">TS</a>]

02:21:52   actually yeah well actually it started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8512">TS</a>]

02:21:54   again and not just as a random cgi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8514">TS</a>]

02:21:57   floating head that was the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8517">TS</a>]

02:21:59   is just I alright I understand doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8519">TS</a>]

02:22:01   giant hologram 24 intent intimidation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8521">TS</a>]

02:22:05   factor and also if you notice i noticed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8525">TS</a>]

02:22:07   the second time around especially seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8527">TS</a>]

02:22:09   it in 2d that's a giant conference room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8529">TS</a>]

02:22:12   that they're standing in there it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8532">TS</a>]

02:22:14   almost like the old uh the senate room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8534">TS</a>]

02:22:17   yeah exactly but there are no there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8537">TS</a>]

02:22:19   you know there are no Empire people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8539">TS</a>]

02:22:22   are sitting in those uh sitting in those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8542">TS</a>]

02:22:24   chairs leaning back being like hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8544">TS</a>]

02:22:26   hello Supreme Leader Snoke also supreme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8546">TS</a>]

02:22:29   leader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8549">TS</a>]

02:22:30   oh boy i guess the first order is North [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8550">TS</a>]

02:22:32   Korea yeah yeah i think there's much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8552">TS</a>]

02:22:35   more i would like to believe anyway that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8555">TS</a>]

02:22:37   there's much more to this story but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8557">TS</a>]

02:22:39   know I think it's problematic that he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8559">TS</a>]

02:22:40   is a golem ask character it's like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8560">TS</a>]

02:22:42   goes pretty far as always you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8562">TS</a>]

02:22:45   get andy serkis he does and i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8565">TS</a>]

02:22:48   i would almost rather just had to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8568">TS</a>]

02:22:50   disembodied voice of the Supreme Leader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8570">TS</a>]

02:22:52   yeah I don't think you need to see him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8572">TS</a>]

02:22:53   as many times as we did ya like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8573">TS</a>]

02:22:55   need to constantly go back to me like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8575">TS</a>]

02:22:57   god damn we screwed that one up what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8577">TS</a>]

02:22:59   gotta do now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8579">TS</a>]

02:23:00   hey John what's on that list years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8580">TS</a>]

02:23:01   actually before we get to my list that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8581">TS</a>]

02:23:04   think my good things I've list of bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8584">TS</a>]

02:23:06   things but one more actual topic that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8586">TS</a>]

02:23:08   think we can touch on Gracie because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8588">TS</a>]

02:23:09   all you all disagree with me again maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8589">TS</a>]

02:23:11   I is and it's one of my another couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8591">TS</a>]

02:23:13   more controversial things the music in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8593">TS</a>]

02:23:16   this movie I haven't downloaded the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8596">TS</a>]

02:23:17   soundtrack but i have seen the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8597">TS</a>]

02:23:19   twice and at my impression of the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8599">TS</a>]

02:23:22   my overwhelming impression summary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8602">TS</a>]

02:23:24   getting to the bottom line is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8604">TS</a>]

02:23:26   Phantom Menace had a stronger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8606">TS</a>]

02:23:27   soundtracked movies girls angry and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8607">TS</a>]

02:23:30   would probably more iconic themes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8610">TS</a>]

02:23:32   duel of fates is yeah and and better and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8612">TS</a>]

02:23:34   dreams right and so in this movie they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8614">TS</a>]

02:23:37   leaned a lot of old character seems yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8617">TS</a>]

02:23:39   surprised his old characters and it's of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8619">TS</a>]

02:23:41   course there's not a ton of even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8621">TS</a>]

02:23:42   I mean that horse team kind of run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8622">TS</a>]

02:23:44   through everything which is in Berlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8624">TS</a>]

02:23:45   and layers laying my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8625">TS</a>]

02:23:47   millions hundreds in there a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8627">TS</a>]

02:23:48   missing ya rais crazy all day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8628">TS</a>]

02:23:51   ray seems very good although it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8631">TS</a>]

02:23:53   interesting so i was i was comparing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8633">TS</a>]

02:23:56   contrasting the force awakens score [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8636">TS</a>]

02:23:58   which is available on Apple music by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8638">TS</a>]

02:24:00   way with with some of the older scores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8640">TS</a>]

02:24:03   and there's a distinct lack of horn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8643">TS</a>]

02:24:05   section in the force awakens which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8645">TS</a>]

02:24:08   think is up to the trailers trailers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8648">TS</a>]

02:24:09   about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8649">TS</a>]

02:24:10   well let's just do but but the but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8650">TS</a>]

02:24:12   actual score has very little horn and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8652">TS</a>]

02:24:16   the places where you would normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8656">TS</a>]

02:24:17   associate you know i was comparing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8657">TS</a>]

02:24:20   contrasting raise theme with all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8660">TS</a>]

02:24:22   other major characters because I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8662">TS</a>]

02:24:24   maybe parentage I'm but race team feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8664">TS</a>]

02:24:28   very much like it was lifted from Harry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8668">TS</a>]

02:24:30   Potter in a way because it has the it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8670">TS</a>]

02:24:33   has the bells and it has i forget what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8673">TS</a>]

02:24:35   what instrument is being used in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8675">TS</a>]

02:24:37   but the tun tun tun tun tun it's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8677">TS</a>]

02:24:42   theme is memorable but it's not it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8682">TS</a>]

02:24:45   doesn't feel quite like a star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8685">TS</a>]

02:24:48   wars-themed it's a little timid that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8688">TS</a>]

02:24:50   the one of my nose timid timid is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8690">TS</a>]

02:24:52   and it also it starts very big something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8692">TS</a>]

02:24:56   that I was noticing this evening is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8696">TS</a>]

02:24:58   a lot of the other main character themes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8698">TS</a>]

02:25:01   and layers in particular starts start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8701">TS</a>]

02:25:04   very small start with one two three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8704">TS</a>]

02:25:06   instruments and then they build out from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8706">TS</a>]

02:25:08   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8708">TS</a>]

02:25:09   so you've got this you've got this key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8709">TS</a>]

02:25:11   core signature theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8711">TS</a>]

02:25:12   no no no no and then and then you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8712">TS</a>]

02:25:16   the entire Orchestra then you bring it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8716">TS</a>]

02:25:17   in then you and engage the swell and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8717">TS</a>]

02:25:20   raise them kind of begins on a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8720">TS</a>]

02:25:23   scale so it doesn't feel like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8723">TS</a>]

02:25:25   anywhere really to build you added more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8725">TS</a>]

02:25:27   instruments but it's not i don't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8727">TS</a>]

02:25:29   doesn't have the same kind of Arc they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8729">TS</a>]

02:25:31   score for me was largely I'm still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8731">TS</a>]

02:25:34   listening to it it's a good score but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8734">TS</a>]

02:25:36   it's not it is definitely not memorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8736">TS</a>]

02:25:39   the way that I any of the other scores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8739">TS</a>]

02:25:43   are really I although i will say a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8743">TS</a>]

02:25:45   scherzo for four x-wings is excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8745">TS</a>]

02:25:49   that's that's one of the few like High [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8749">TS</a>]

02:25:51   Point tracks for me but I'm but a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8751">TS</a>]

02:25:54   this is very strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8754">TS</a>]

02:25:56   I i haven't listened to enough to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8756">TS</a>]

02:25:58   like internalized yet but it felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8758">TS</a>]

02:26:00   it was less cohesion somewhat less use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8760">TS</a>]

02:26:03   of the leitmotif that we you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8763">TS</a>]

02:26:06   is such a major part of all the earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8766">TS</a>]

02:26:08   scores and yeah I don't know it's i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8768">TS</a>]

02:26:13   curious listen to a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8773">TS</a>]

02:26:14   obviously listen to like the results [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8774">TS</a>]

02:26:16   contracts more times than I can count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8776">TS</a>]

02:26:17   and their weak points in some of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8777">TS</a>]

02:26:19   there's there's electric guitar portion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8779">TS</a>]

02:26:21   in the attack of the clones soundtrack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8781">TS</a>]

02:26:23   that is god awful and i really wish i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8783">TS</a>]

02:26:24   wasn't there but yeah I mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8784">TS</a>]

02:26:27   some good stuff in here but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8787">TS</a>]

02:26:29   something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8789">TS</a>]

02:26:29   iri maybe John you were in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8789">TS</a>]

02:26:31   showing as me I felt like the music mix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8791">TS</a>]

02:26:34   was a little off in my showing just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8794">TS</a>]

02:26:36   because I someone I want to be a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8796">TS</a>]

02:26:37   louder a little more but yeah I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8797">TS</a>]

02:26:38   that the volume of that theater is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8798">TS</a>]

02:26:40   not a lot but I think it's also in it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8800">TS</a>]

02:26:42   just has to do i think the mixes okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8802">TS</a>]

02:26:45   like I just feel like they didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8805">TS</a>]

02:26:47   the reason i compared to Phantom Menace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8807">TS</a>]

02:26:48   I'm trying to compare to one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8808">TS</a>]

02:26:50   weaker movies you know people don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8810">TS</a>]

02:26:51   the preclinical fantastic score done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8811">TS</a>]

02:26:54   right everybody liked but what I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8814">TS</a>]

02:26:56   like the high bar would be like old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8816">TS</a>]

02:26:58   there's no Imperial March as we circle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8818">TS</a>]

02:27:00   come on like there's no I'm pyramid-like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8820">TS</a>]

02:27:01   how many Imperial March a new home a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8821">TS</a>]

02:27:03   hole doesn't have an imperial march in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8823">TS</a>]

02:27:04   your life and you know I know right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8824">TS</a>]

02:27:06   New York New Hope head like was looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8826">TS</a>]

02:27:08   for is a stronger statement from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8828">TS</a>]

02:27:10   music is one of the defining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8830">TS</a>]

02:27:11   characteristics of Star Wars is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8831">TS</a>]

02:27:13   scored like you know but behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8833">TS</a>]

02:27:15   everything with this very music is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8835">TS</a>]

02:27:19   dominant like the music doesn't like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8839">TS</a>]

02:27:20   take a back seat to the action and says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8840">TS</a>]

02:27:22   the music is going to tell you how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8842">TS</a>]

02:27:23   should feel about the action and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8843">TS</a>]

02:27:25   fine but like raised him being like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8845">TS</a>]

02:27:27   small and timid because sheet this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8847">TS</a>]

02:27:29   using our beginnings here but a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8849">TS</a>]

02:27:31   the the big a bombastic things that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8851">TS</a>]

02:27:33   in the trailer weren't even in the agony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8853">TS</a>]

02:27:35   is this and there was no like mr. so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8855">TS</a>]

02:27:38   good just the ones in the trailer so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8858">TS</a>]

02:27:40   good that the sort of building with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8860">TS</a>]

02:27:42   different repeated don't know where to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8862">TS</a>]

02:27:43   go over the different repeated notes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8863">TS</a>]

02:27:45   like building to something there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8865">TS</a>]

02:27:46   moments in the movie that could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8866">TS</a>]

02:27:47   gone with that and so no defining theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8867">TS</a>]

02:27:50   leaning on the old themes and having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8870">TS</a>]

02:27:52   new character steam be kind of laid-back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8872">TS</a>]

02:27:54   it's like it's not that it was a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8874">TS</a>]

02:27:56   soundtrack but it's pulled back farther [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8876">TS</a>]

02:27:58   than i thought it's not as memorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8878">TS</a>]

02:27:59   here and it's a weird I mean John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8879">TS</a>]

02:28:01   Williams obviously is done every star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8881">TS</a>]

02:28:03   wars movie so you know obviously he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8883">TS</a>]

02:28:05   knows what he's doing but this is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8885">TS</a>]

02:28:07   first collaboration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8887">TS</a>]

02:28:09   is JJ Abrams i believe and so you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8889">TS</a>]

02:28:12   i don't know i find myself wondering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8892">TS</a>]

02:28:14   like who had the leeway here who had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8894">TS</a>]

02:28:16   ball you know ultimate say in some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8896">TS</a>]

02:28:18   these things is this a ultimately AJ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8898">TS</a>]

02:28:20   rooms decision or is it just that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8900">TS</a>]

02:28:22   know John Williams also getting on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8902">TS</a>]

02:28:23   things written a bunch of these floors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8903">TS</a>]

02:28:25   so other than as well he's great he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8905">TS</a>]

02:28:28   great composer there's there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8908">TS</a>]

02:28:29   arguing about that but he's gonna be 32 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8909">TS</a>]

02:28:31   to John's point about Han Solo running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8911">TS</a>]

02:28:33   around well maybe you can make the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8913">TS</a>]

02:28:35   scores that you could when you were 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8915">TS</a>]

02:28:37   years younger so it will be interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8917">TS</a>]

02:28:39   to see how that develops but my i agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8919">TS</a>]

02:28:42   with the initial inclination that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8922">TS</a>]

02:28:43   music here is not as strong as even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8923">TS</a>]

02:28:45   some of the prequels now right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8925">TS</a>]

02:28:48   ok John all right my bad list players [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8928">TS</a>]

02:28:51   point the end on a low note [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8931">TS</a>]

02:28:53   yeah I will not have this will end with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8933">TS</a>]

02:28:55   summer i gotta-i gotta closes okay good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8935">TS</a>]

02:28:57   good I'm glad we've got the rules of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8937">TS</a>]

02:29:00   order V of the Imperial Senate worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8940">TS</a>]

02:29:04   out here we're good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8944">TS</a>]

02:29:05   yeah so I have three of the bullet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8945">TS</a>]

02:29:08   points my bad section begin with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8948">TS</a>]

02:29:09   letter C and G I for the characters like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8949">TS</a>]

02:29:13   maz and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8953">TS</a>]

02:29:14   I liked her character i found myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8954">TS</a>]

02:29:17   asking is there is there a reason for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8957">TS</a>]

02:29:19   this to be a CGI character because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8959">TS</a>]

02:29:21   movie doesn't have a lot of pure CG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8961">TS</a>]

02:29:24   character even I think the big guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8964">TS</a>]

02:29:25   behind the counter who doesn't give her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8965">TS</a>]

02:29:27   fair rations for her as well as veteran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8967">TS</a>]

02:29:29   I believe that Simon Pegg in a suit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8969">TS</a>]

02:29:31   right like even that I think that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8971">TS</a>]

02:29:33   see on the face and everything but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8973">TS</a>]

02:29:34   like it wasn't enough practicality to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8974">TS</a>]

02:29:36   and it's ok for like the ships are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8976">TS</a>]

02:29:37   completed everything up but to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8977">TS</a>]

02:29:39   full CG character is going to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8979">TS</a>]

02:29:41   close-ups and be involved in things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8981">TS</a>]

02:29:43   why not just have the the actress who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8983">TS</a>]

02:29:45   did that voice there is a human if she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8985">TS</a>]

02:29:48   was human in the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8988">TS</a>]

02:29:49   what would that have taken away i guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8989">TS</a>]

02:29:51   you could have crawled on the table and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8991">TS</a>]

02:29:52   how maybe she could like that so her cat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8992">TS</a>]

02:29:55   her character's minor so i give up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8995">TS</a>]

02:29:57   specialist in a cantina typing with lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8997">TS</a>]

02:29:59   of aliens below the other aliens that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/8999">TS</a>]

02:30:00   look more convincing cg big bad i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9000">TS</a>]

02:30:03   know how they're gonna do this smoke is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9003">TS</a>]

02:30:04   CG and can you can you have a full CG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9004">TS</a>]

02:30:08   big bad in the movie filled with people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9008">TS</a>]

02:30:10   and real stuff i don't like in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9010">TS</a>]

02:30:12   week's spine is the hologram whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9012">TS</a>]

02:30:13   it's not a big deal like it's not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9013">TS</a>]

02:30:15   know how baboon eyes tacked onto an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9015">TS</a>]

02:30:17   actor space like it was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9017">TS</a>]

02:30:19   an empire right but i but i'm thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9019">TS</a>]

02:30:21   for the future movie having a seedbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9021">TS</a>]

02:30:23   might be a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9023">TS</a>]

02:30:24   the cg monsters on hardship that I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9024">TS</a>]

02:30:26   remember the name of actually kinda like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9026">TS</a>]

02:30:28   that senior people complain about it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9028">TS</a>]

02:30:30   like well I was like fun monsters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9030">TS</a>]

02:30:32   running around and look like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9032">TS</a>]

02:30:34   yeah it's not quite as bad as Scotty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9034">TS</a>]

02:30:37   going through the tubes in the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9037">TS</a>]

02:30:38   yeah it did remind me of a J start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9038">TS</a>]

02:30:40   relaxing right now but but but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9040">TS</a>]

02:30:42   character design for that and the cg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9042">TS</a>]

02:30:44   monsters like they didn't really fit in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9044">TS</a>]

02:30:46   with that well that's it that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9046">TS</a>]

02:30:48   underappreciated rayline by the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9048">TS</a>]

02:30:49   where where where Finn says that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9049">TS</a>]

02:30:52   know I told me through and then the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9052">TS</a>]

02:30:54   closed she says that's lucky lucky you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9054">TS</a>]

02:30:56   know that that's a character moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9056">TS</a>]

02:30:58   bigger shows that she's not so it she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9058">TS</a>]

02:30:59   doesn't want to like drag she's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9059">TS</a>]

02:31:01   gonna do just want to hurt his ego to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9061">TS</a>]

02:31:03   say like I say again idiot at our end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9063">TS</a>]

02:31:07   and then the final like these aren't bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9067">TS</a>]

02:31:08   this is this now I'm getting to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9068">TS</a>]

02:31:10   silliness thing like because i'm a nerd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9070">TS</a>]

02:31:12   I and like I don't know why I know why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9072">TS</a>]

02:31:15   this is being triggered in me in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9075">TS</a>]

02:31:17   movie and not every other thing there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9077">TS</a>]

02:31:19   something about Star Wars where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9079">TS</a>]

02:31:22   doesn't make you question stuff like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9082">TS</a>]

02:31:23   is the gravity and the mind-boggling who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9083">TS</a>]

02:31:25   freakin cares like it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9085">TS</a>]

02:31:26   partying in your first thing and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9086">TS</a>]

02:31:29   when this when this giant planet killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9089">TS</a>]

02:31:31   weapon was pulling its energy from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9091">TS</a>]

02:31:32   Sun and here's the part of my brand said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9092">TS</a>]

02:31:34   wait a second wait a second gravity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9094">TS</a>]

02:31:37   orbital dynamics like this is not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9097">TS</a>]

02:31:39   this is not like it doesn't make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9099">TS</a>]

02:31:40   sense i know and i had the planet turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9100">TS</a>]

02:31:42   into like a little sun at the end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9102">TS</a>]

02:31:43   the Sun the Sun when the Sun Goes dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9103">TS</a>]

02:31:46   if the planet is full but does that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9106">TS</a>]

02:31:49   the planet like moves two other sons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9109">TS</a>]

02:31:51   yeah I see movement like this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9111">TS</a>]

02:31:53   mechanics why is it doesn't make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9113">TS</a>]

02:31:55   sense and i just want but it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9115">TS</a>]

02:31:56   like it would have been happy I said did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9116">TS</a>]

02:31:58   alright this shoots out big stuff it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9118">TS</a>]

02:31:59   doesn't have to come from something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9119">TS</a>]

02:32:00   that what is something the desktop i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9120">TS</a>]

02:32:02   don't care that there's an economic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9122">TS</a>]

02:32:03   problem here where it's like the they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9123">TS</a>]

02:32:05   keep deciding to build giant like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9125">TS</a>]

02:32:07   spherical west- never handled things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9127">TS</a>]

02:32:10   which they just will intervention this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9130">TS</a>]

02:32:12   you know like that is because i'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9132">TS</a>]

02:32:14   close up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9134">TS</a>]

02:32:15   how does the first-order build something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9135">TS</a>]

02:32:16   that also space space doesn't work this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9136">TS</a>]

02:32:19   way jay is the note that i had written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9139">TS</a>]

02:32:20   down which is it is in a sin star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9140">TS</a>]

02:32:23   and enforce awakens you have destruction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9143">TS</a>]

02:32:26   on other planets presumably in other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9146">TS</a>]

02:32:28   solar systems that are just from one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9148">TS</a>]

02:32:30   in from by looking up in the sky ok it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9150">TS</a>]

02:32:33   doesn't work like that as in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9153">TS</a>]

02:32:34   Republic are all the plants in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9154">TS</a>]

02:32:35   republic with individuals like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9155">TS</a>]

02:32:37   see that all the size of marbles next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9157">TS</a>]

02:32:39   year like how big is the Republicans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9159">TS</a>]

02:32:40   this all-in-one soul because your shock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9160">TS</a>]

02:32:42   watches the destruction of Vulcan from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9162">TS</a>]

02:32:44   planet in another solar system here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9164">TS</a>]

02:32:46   what's he like in the sky and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9166">TS</a>]

02:32:48   no no no that's not a little tiny dot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9168">TS</a>]

02:32:51   you see nothing and again so it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9171">TS</a>]

02:32:54   matter it's fantasy I guess that's okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9174">TS</a>]

02:32:56   but I don't drink much but the trick is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9176">TS</a>]

02:32:58   to get you to not question anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9178">TS</a>]

02:33:00   it wasn't our power and what is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9180">TS</a>]

02:33:02   reactor in the death star how why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9182">TS</a>]

02:33:04   everyone said we don't care but at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9184">TS</a>]

02:33:05   certain point you you you bring it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9185">TS</a>]

02:33:07   the attention of the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9187">TS</a>]

02:33:09   Oh actually we're so clever we thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9189">TS</a>]

02:33:11   of this thing where it takes energy from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9191">TS</a>]

02:33:12   the Sun it's like it does what now how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9192">TS</a>]

02:33:14   do you think the solar systems work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9194">TS</a>]

02:33:15   what is the planet orbiting like you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9195">TS</a>]

02:33:18   you could pull any amount of mass from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9198">TS</a>]

02:33:20   the Sun you can throw yourself out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9200">TS</a>]

02:33:22   orbit and like your stupid weapon you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9202">TS</a>]

02:33:24   built and everyone is gonna die and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9204">TS</a>]

02:33:25   freeze to death as you spin out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9205">TS</a>]

02:33:27   solar system it's like this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9207">TS</a>]

02:33:28   terrible plan and doesn't make any sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9208">TS</a>]

02:33:30   and then it's a son at the end like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9210">TS</a>]

02:33:32   implodes and becomes a son but it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9212">TS</a>]

02:33:35   I don't you know I don't want to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9215">TS</a>]

02:33:36   about those things and I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9216">TS</a>]

02:33:37   bringing them into the equation only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9217">TS</a>]

02:33:39   hurts you better to just say it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9219">TS</a>]

02:33:41   planet with a big gun on it and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9221">TS</a>]

02:33:43   have accepted the impossibility of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9223">TS</a>]

02:33:45   first order ever doing like terraforming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9225">TS</a>]

02:33:47   on that scale because if you do like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9227">TS</a>]

02:33:48   little diagram of like how big are these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9228">TS</a>]

02:33:50   features on this thing and how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9230">TS</a>]

02:33:52   where's all the material that you remove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9232">TS</a>]

02:33:53   that no I don't want to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9233">TS</a>]

02:33:55   yeah just so it's it's your exaggerated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9235">TS</a>]

02:33:58   that magic trick of don't think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9238">TS</a>]

02:34:00   yeah right so so I don't need to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9240">TS</a>]

02:34:02   about it and then you think about you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9242">TS</a>]

02:34:03   go yeah it start with whatever but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9243">TS</a>]

02:34:06   if you if you're sitting there going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9246">TS</a>]

02:34:07   this doesn't make any sense to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9247">TS</a>]

02:34:09   yeah its star wars it's fine i'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9249">TS</a>]

02:34:11   let it i'm gonna let x but but yeah you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9251">TS</a>]

02:34:13   you feel like maybe there was a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9253">TS</a>]

02:34:16   way to explain it away that would not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9256">TS</a>]

02:34:18   around or not to not to explain it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9258">TS</a>]

02:34:20   and like insurance that thing is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9260">TS</a>]

02:34:21   really liked the i really like the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9261">TS</a>]

02:34:24   that instead of a bunch of green lasers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9264">TS</a>]

02:34:27   and then a central green laser blowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9267">TS</a>]

02:34:28   up plan i really like the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9268">TS</a>]

02:34:30   shooting out before i knew it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9270">TS</a>]

02:34:31   something in the movie like the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9271">TS</a>]

02:34:32   time you see you don't know that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9272">TS</a>]

02:34:33   coming from the Sun it's just a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9273">TS</a>]

02:34:35   red hot fire that streaks across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9275">TS</a>]

02:34:38   galaxy and it can be seen by other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9278">TS</a>]

02:34:39   planets streaking across the sky and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9279">TS</a>]

02:34:42   hitting the planets and blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9282">TS</a>]

02:34:43   them up I thought that was interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9283">TS</a>]

02:34:46   intimidating are plausibly visible from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9286">TS</a>]

02:34:50   other planets considering the size and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9290">TS</a>]

02:34:52   scope of the thing and the fact that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9292">TS</a>]

02:34:53   splits into like multiple warheads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9293">TS</a>]

02:34:55   they you know can destroy all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9295">TS</a>]

02:34:57   different planets and everything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9297">TS</a>]

02:34:57   that and I really really love the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9297">TS</a>]

02:34:59   of what's-his-name staring out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9299">TS</a>]

02:35:02   window as the weapon fires kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9302">TS</a>]

02:35:04   about the lens flare it's one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9304">TS</a>]

02:35:05   favorite good job deej my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9305">TS</a>]

02:35:07   scenes in the movie has lines flare and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9307">TS</a>]

02:35:08   that one like it really looks like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9308">TS</a>]

02:35:10   scary weapon everything a moment had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9310">TS</a>]

02:35:13   moment of logical miss to it where I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9313">TS</a>]

02:35:14   like how they made a laser that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9314">TS</a>]

02:35:16   basically goes through hyperspace or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9316">TS</a>]

02:35:17   something yeah I can buy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9317">TS</a>]

02:35:19   yeah that seems like it yeah they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9319">TS</a>]

02:35:20   explain it your head canon would be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9320">TS</a>]

02:35:22   you have to be going well with like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9322">TS</a>]

02:35:23   don't know it's sucking from the son of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9323">TS</a>]

02:35:24   it like that hole sucking from the Sun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9324">TS</a>]

02:35:26   thing read to me as both visually and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9326">TS</a>]

02:35:28   conceptually as something from aj star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9328">TS</a>]

02:35:30   trek movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9330">TS</a>]

02:35:31   yeah I needed a reason we needed a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9331">TS</a>]

02:35:33   visual timer for you to know when things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9333">TS</a>]

02:35:35   were going to want to add dark all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9335">TS</a>]

02:35:37   way do you think the I do get that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9337">TS</a>]

02:35:39   think that the fight in the darkened for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9339">TS</a>]

02:35:41   that out that was really cool looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9341">TS</a>]

02:35:43   really awesome and even like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9343">TS</a>]

02:35:45   twilight as it gets darker like it's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9345">TS</a>]

02:35:47   bad they couldn't come up with more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9347">TS</a>]

02:35:48   plausible story reason because the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9348">TS</a>]

02:35:49   idea of like a battle as it gets darker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9349">TS</a>]

02:35:51   and darker is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9351">TS</a>]

02:35:52   visually speaking for that balance like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9352">TS</a>]

02:35:54   they started the daytime and then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9354">TS</a>]

02:35:56   you know their their timers like when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9356">TS</a>]

02:35:57   gets dark we're kind of screwed by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9357">TS</a>]

02:35:59   end he's flying through the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9359">TS</a>]

02:36:01   surrogate trench in the dark and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9361">TS</a>]

02:36:03   everything like that was great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9363">TS</a>]

02:36:05   well there's also that that terrible but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9365">TS</a>]

02:36:07   great moment where that the final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9367">TS</a>]

02:36:11   showdown between ren and solo where ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9371">TS</a>]

02:36:14   and then have just opened the door so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9374">TS</a>]

02:36:17   they've let on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9377">TS</a>]

02:36:18   they've let the remaining sunlight kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9378">TS</a>]

02:36:19   of hit them and as that they give the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9379">TS</a>]

02:36:23   pivotal moment in that scene all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9383">TS</a>]

02:36:26   light goes out and the Sun is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9386">TS</a>]

02:36:27   extinguished and I'm like well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9387">TS</a>]

02:36:29   heavy-handed but in true star wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9389">TS</a>]

02:36:31   tradition it works yeah so and the red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9391">TS</a>]

02:36:34   light goes on his face when he you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9394">TS</a>]

02:36:36   when he changes when he makes it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9396">TS</a>]

02:36:38   it's clear the audience that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9398">TS</a>]

02:36:39   gripping tightly on lightsaber not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9399">TS</a>]

02:36:40   actually handing in office and this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9400">TS</a>]

02:36:42   Setting Sun outside comes through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9402">TS</a>]

02:36:43   window and bassist face and red light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9403">TS</a>]

02:36:45   and maybe will be ended but working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9405">TS</a>]

02:36:47   that's fine for Star Wars movie is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9407">TS</a>]

02:36:49   supposed to be a little over here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9409">TS</a>]

02:36:50   yeah exactly right yeah I i agree i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9410">TS</a>]

02:36:55   think that this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9415">TS</a>]

02:36:56   it's the stuff you don't it's the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9416">TS</a>]

02:36:58   you don't watch the stuff you don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9418">TS</a>]

02:37:00   don't think about you let it go by and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9420">TS</a>]

02:37:02   then you just sort of except the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9422">TS</a>]

02:37:04   picture of it in and that's fine that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9424">TS</a>]

02:37:06   fine i just again it's not to movies now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9426">TS</a>]

02:37:08   where I think JJ from thinks things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9428">TS</a>]

02:37:10   much closer together in space that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9430">TS</a>]

02:37:11   actually possible but it's this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9431">TS</a>]

02:37:13   is JJ's midi-chlorians yeah apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9433">TS</a>]

02:37:15   I'm not nearly as bad as medical area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9435">TS</a>]

02:37:17   yeah uh okay uh are we are we had are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9437">TS</a>]

02:37:22   a we could talk about this forever there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9442">TS</a>]

02:37:23   will be other incomparable episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9443">TS</a>]

02:37:24   about this movie but we have to stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9444">TS</a>]

02:37:27   some time and where we're headed up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9447">TS</a>]

02:37:29   three hours now so we should probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9449">TS</a>]

02:37:30   stop soon so let's let's go to some some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9450">TS</a>]

02:37:34   final some final thoughts from all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9454">TS</a>]

02:37:35   you dance you have some final thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9455">TS</a>]

02:37:37   about the overall picture of this film I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9457">TS</a>]

02:37:39   do and I was thinking about this today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9459">TS</a>]

02:37:41   i've only seen once i'm like you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9461">TS</a>]

02:37:43   have any chance to go again yet but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9463">TS</a>]

02:37:46   was spent a lot of today so drive around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9466">TS</a>]

02:37:48   and I was thinking about during that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9468">TS</a>]

02:37:49   period now and something--well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9469">TS</a>]

02:37:51   we talked a little bit in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9471">TS</a>]

02:37:52   anticipation podcast about how we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9472">TS</a>]

02:37:54   going to feel this is just a good movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9474">TS</a>]

02:37:56   a fun movie and but not necessarily at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9476">TS</a>]

02:37:58   the level of like the Star Wars movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9478">TS</a>]

02:38:00   that we grew up with and so I found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9480">TS</a>]

02:38:02   myself wondering like well if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9482">TS</a>]

02:38:04   someone of an age that we were when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9484">TS</a>]

02:38:07   saw the original Star Wars movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9487">TS</a>]

02:38:09   you walked out this today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9489">TS</a>]

02:38:11   what kind of impact which you would that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9491">TS</a>]

02:38:12   make your life how would that how would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9492">TS</a>]

02:38:14   this movie make you feel and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9494">TS</a>]

02:38:17   sort of the top thing that came up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9497">TS</a>]

02:38:18   me in terms of feeling about that and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9498">TS</a>]

02:38:20   talked about this a little bit in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9500">TS</a>]

02:38:22   of the trailer dissection episodes was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9502">TS</a>]

02:38:25   kid today you know walking out the star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9505">TS</a>]

02:38:27   wars movie i think the biggest deal in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9507">TS</a>]

02:38:28   it for me are that the fact that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9508">TS</a>]

02:38:31   main characters a woman and that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9511">TS</a>]

02:38:33   other two main characters are people of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9513">TS</a>]

02:38:35   color are men of color and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9515">TS</a>]

02:38:37   that's amazing like that's to me that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9517">TS</a>]

02:38:39   the biggest sort of legacy that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9519">TS</a>]

02:38:42   movie can can bring for me is the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9522">TS</a>]

02:38:45   like we have heroes here who are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9525">TS</a>]

02:38:47   look like you know all from there from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9527">TS</a>]

02:38:50   all walks of life there from all genders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9530">TS</a>]

02:38:52   are races you know and that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9532">TS</a>]

02:38:54   inclusive in a way that I think Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9534">TS</a>]

02:38:56   Wars always meant to be in its spirit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9536">TS</a>]

02:38:58   even if it wasn't in its execution and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9538">TS</a>]

02:39:01   you know that idea to me sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9541">TS</a>]

02:39:03   encapsulates what star wars means and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9543">TS</a>]

02:39:07   why it could be as impactful for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9547">TS</a>]

02:39:09   you know for this generation for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9549">TS</a>]

02:39:11   chapter of it as the originals were even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9551">TS</a>]

02:39:14   if they're not that you know as central [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9554">TS</a>]

02:39:16   to to us you know we are all grown up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9556">TS</a>]

02:39:19   now we are not people we are not kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9559">TS</a>]

02:39:21   seeing this for the first time it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9561">TS</a>]

02:39:23   never going to impact us for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9563">TS</a>]

02:39:24   our lives the way the original did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9564">TS</a>]

02:39:27   simply because it wasn't there in our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9567">TS</a>]

02:39:29   formative years as I think we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9569">TS</a>]

02:39:31   about on the anticipation podcast but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9571">TS</a>]

02:39:33   i got to think that the kids going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9573">TS</a>]

02:39:35   use today who you know have role models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9575">TS</a>]

02:39:37   and characters who look like them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9577">TS</a>]

02:39:40   you no answer those questions of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9580">TS</a>]

02:39:43   you know I was talking to my girlfriend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9583">TS</a>]

02:39:44   about this is like you know I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9584">TS</a>]

02:39:46   wanted a a force using like lightsaber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9586">TS</a>]

02:39:49   wielding woman who I could like use a as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9589">TS</a>]

02:39:52   sort of like a role model and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9592">TS</a>]

02:39:54   know it's nice to have that as an option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9594">TS</a>]

02:39:57   for four kids growing up today but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9597">TS</a>]

02:40:00   like it doesn't matter which you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9600">TS</a>]

02:40:02   doesn't nothing another's matters like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9602">TS</a>]

02:40:04   you can be ok you can be an awesome dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9604">TS</a>]

02:40:06   I you can be a hero it and and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9606">TS</a>]

02:40:08   look like anybody and so I i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9608">TS</a>]

02:40:12   story is good and it was a fun movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9612">TS</a>]

02:40:14   I enjoyed it but i think that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9614">TS</a>]

02:40:16   biggest lasting legacy of it is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9616">TS</a>]

02:40:19   be that diversity of caste and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9619">TS</a>]

02:40:22   having seen now this movie in and sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9622">TS</a>]

02:40:24   of equating it to be this is the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9624">TS</a>]

02:40:26   a new hope and certainly remix a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9626">TS</a>]

02:40:28   the plot elements from New Hope i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9628">TS</a>]

02:40:30   fascinated to see what happens in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9630">TS</a>]

02:40:32   episode 8 because that is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9632">TS</a>]

02:40:34   generation empire strikes back but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9634">TS</a>]

02:40:36   can't do Empire Strikes Back right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9636">TS</a>]

02:40:38   it can't it doesn't it's just different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9638">TS</a>]

02:40:41   enough we we've set off this chain of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9641">TS</a>]

02:40:43   motion this chain of events in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9643">TS</a>]

02:40:45   that is just different enough that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9645">TS</a>]

02:40:47   can just simply rehash empire strikes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9647">TS</a>]

02:40:49   back at Empire Strikes Back doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9649">TS</a>]

02:40:51   necessarily fit all the neat patterns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9651">TS</a>]

02:40:52   and and sort of tropes and in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9652">TS</a>]

02:40:56   I feel like this movie does in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9656">TS</a>]

02:40:57   so I'm fascinated to see go off in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9657">TS</a>]

02:40:59   different direction and to build on what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9659">TS</a>]

02:41:01   we've seen here and turn this into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9661">TS</a>]

02:41:03   entirely different story and with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9663">TS</a>]

02:41:06   with elements of the familiar to be sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9666">TS</a>]

02:41:07   but i think they've really done a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9667">TS</a>]

02:41:10   job of setting up a brand new chapter in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9670">TS</a>]

02:41:14   this in this story that is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9674">TS</a>]

02:41:16   hopefully a great thing in its own right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9676">TS</a>]

02:41:19   serenity kylo serenity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9679">TS</a>]

02:41:23   the Knights of Ren they're yours they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9683">TS</a>]

02:41:25   your guys so take care of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9685">TS</a>]

02:41:27   wait what do you think we have to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9687">TS</a>]

02:41:29   talk about the way that they intimidate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9689">TS</a>]

02:41:32   students [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9692">TS</a>]

02:41:33   yeah they need some work anyway we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9693">TS</a>]

02:41:34   hear what you're wearing but overall my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9694">TS</a>]

02:41:36   closing thoughts I i will return to what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9696">TS</a>]

02:41:40   I said at the beginning of this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9700">TS</a>]

02:41:41   this is a Star Wars film its blood a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9701">TS</a>]

02:41:45   hundred percent thoroughly and i love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9705">TS</a>]

02:41:48   for that i love the fact that it opens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9708">TS</a>]

02:41:50   up doors to where we can potentially go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9710">TS</a>]

02:41:54   in future installments to where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9714">TS</a>]

02:41:55   extended cannon can go on the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9715">TS</a>]

02:41:59   we have officially a woman who can who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9719">TS</a>]

02:42:03   can wield the force who has in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9723">TS</a>]

02:42:06   right just as much a place in the Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9726">TS</a>]

02:42:08   Wars Canon as Luke Skywalker is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9728">TS</a>]

02:42:10   incredible and something that I never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9730">TS</a>]

02:42:13   thought would have happened outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9733">TS</a>]

02:42:14   you know Mara JD u when i was growing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9734">TS</a>]

02:42:17   you know Mara Mara Jade was was the was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9737">TS</a>]

02:42:20   the girl to sort of empathize with if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9740">TS</a>]

02:42:23   you were a star wars fan in the nineties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9743">TS</a>]

02:42:25   into thousands because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9745">TS</a>]

02:42:27   padmé was wasted and leia was awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9747">TS</a>]

02:42:30   but Leigh did not have you know leah was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9750">TS</a>]

02:42:33   not really actively interested in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9753">TS</a>]

02:42:35   harnessing the force so we you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9755">TS</a>]

02:42:37   dabbled in EU characters the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9757">TS</a>]

02:42:39   there's now I can and character on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9759">TS</a>]

02:42:42   the age of you know women who more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9762">TS</a>]

02:42:45   powerful women in Hollywood is is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9765">TS</a>]

02:42:47   awesome and just the entire the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9767">TS</a>]

02:42:51   new cast you know you've cut you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9771">TS</a>]

02:42:54   a lady who was incredibly competent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9774">TS</a>]

02:42:57   you've got an awesome african-american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9777">TS</a>]

02:43:00   character in the shape but of John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9780">TS</a>]

02:43:03   boyega and and even oscar isaac is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9783">TS</a>]

02:43:07   Hispanic i believe so you've got these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9787">TS</a>]

02:43:10   very very multicultural cast we made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9790">TS</a>]

02:43:13   this mistaken in the casting story so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9793">TS</a>]

02:43:15   I'm going to correct you right now add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9795">TS</a>]

02:43:17   all that jumping is English so he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9797">TS</a>]

02:43:19   african-american he's not married him do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9799">TS</a>]

02:43:21   an American accent right yeah I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9801">TS</a>]

02:43:24   know I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9804">TS</a>]

02:43:25   and yes you ready to blaze after African [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9805">TS</a>]

02:43:28   english i don't know how you would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9808">TS</a>]

02:43:29   don't know what the politically correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9809">TS</a>]

02:43:31   term is there but yes I mean Daisy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9811">TS</a>]

02:43:34   literally were born in the same area of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9814">TS</a>]

02:43:36   London which is kind of awesome yep and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9816">TS</a>]

02:43:38   the same age so yeah bringing bringing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9818">TS</a>]

02:43:41   small Wednesday Oscar Isaacs from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9821">TS</a>]

02:43:43   Guatemala is Guatemala in there again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9823">TS</a>]

02:43:45   and and a very good actor who's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9825">TS</a>]

02:43:47   good in a bunch of other things too but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9827">TS</a>]

02:43:48   he said yeah he's pretty greatness and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9828">TS</a>]

02:43:50   oscar isaac is wonderful and just as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9830">TS</a>]

02:43:54   side a side note if people haven't seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9834">TS</a>]

02:43:56   he and Daisy Ridley doing a very quick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9836">TS</a>]

02:44:00   duet of baby it's cold outside it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9840">TS</a>]

02:44:02   probably one of the few redeeming aspect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9842">TS</a>]

02:44:04   of that song yeah yeah it's very it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9844">TS</a>]

02:44:07   very cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9847">TS</a>]

02:44:08   ah the but no i mean i i'm i'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9848">TS</a>]

02:44:11   excited where the next generation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9851">TS</a>]

02:44:14   Star Wars is going i think that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9854">TS</a>]

02:44:17   have made a lot of very good steps and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9857">TS</a>]

02:44:20   inroads into making this making this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9860">TS</a>]

02:44:23   franchise something that somebody that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9863">TS</a>]

02:44:25   people can be excited about in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9865">TS</a>]

02:44:26   modern age as well as oh these were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9866">TS</a>]

02:44:28   these movies that came out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9868">TS</a>]

02:44:29   seventies and eighties that were awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9869">TS</a>]

02:44:31   and then had some really terrible you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9871">TS</a>]

02:44:33   there they're really building the cannon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9873">TS</a>]

02:44:35   back up again there's a lot 44 new fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9875">TS</a>]

02:44:38   and old fans like to be excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9878">TS</a>]

02:44:39   and moreover i'm excited for episode 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9879">TS</a>]

02:44:44   because right you know from brian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9884">TS</a>]

02:44:46   johnson who directed brothers bloom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9886">TS</a>]

02:44:49   brick and looper and who's just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9889">TS</a>]

02:44:52   awesome all-around person is making what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9892">TS</a>]

02:44:56   Larry Kasdan called the weirdest star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9896">TS</a>]

02:44:58   wars movie the weirdest little movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9898">TS</a>]

02:45:02   anything like that excites me the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9902">TS</a>]

02:45:05   that ok we have the template we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9905">TS</a>]

02:45:07   this you know rehash of the of New Hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9907">TS</a>]

02:45:09   template which works so well to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9909">TS</a>]

02:45:10   reintroduce us into this world now let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9910">TS</a>]

02:45:13   go off on the beaten path and let's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9913">TS</a>]

02:45:14   make up let's see some weird stuff I are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9914">TS</a>]

02:45:19   our good friend voices to yawn in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9919">TS</a>]

02:45:20   he's lurking in the chatroom and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9920">TS</a>]

02:45:22   never to be nefertum to miss an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9922">TS</a>]

02:45:25   opportunity to point out that Oscar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9925">TS</a>]

02:45:27   Isaacs father is cuban and he grew up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9927">TS</a>]

02:45:30   Miami his mother's from Guatemala he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9930">TS</a>]

02:45:32   born in Guatemala so Cuban Guatemalan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9932">TS</a>]

02:45:35   floridian oscar isaac really good actor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9935">TS</a>]

02:45:39   check them out an ex machina of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9939">TS</a>]

02:45:41   and he was just in a though the david [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9941">TS</a>]

02:45:44   simon show me a hero David Simon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9944">TS</a>]

02:45:48   miniseries and is actually quite good in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9948">TS</a>]

02:45:50   that too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9950">TS</a>]

02:45:50   so for more oscar isaac John what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9950">TS</a>]

02:45:55   your thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9955">TS</a>]

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02:45:59   before on the anticipation most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9959">TS</a>]

02:46:00   anticipation episode I was fretting over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9960">TS</a>]

02:46:03   with these movies with views be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9963">TS</a>]

02:46:08   recapture the magic of the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9968">TS</a>]

02:46:09   trilogy and feel like Star Wars movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9969">TS</a>]

02:46:11   in that way and in that way or what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9971">TS</a>]

02:46:14   would be okay if they were just good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9974">TS</a>]

02:46:15   movies like they were like the Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9975">TS</a>]

02:46:17   movies they're good movies and Star Trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9977">TS</a>]

02:46:18   universe but they didn't didn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9978">TS</a>]

02:46:20   like the original trilogy of prequels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9980">TS</a>]

02:46:23   obviously did not recapture the magic of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9983">TS</a>]

02:46:25   the original trilogy uh and i think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9985">TS</a>]

02:46:29   movie did not feel like the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9989">TS</a>]

02:46:31   trilogy for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9991">TS</a>]

02:46:33   the difference is that this was not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9993">TS</a>]

02:46:35   terrible movie and I think why I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9995">TS</a>]

02:46:38   basically what I went and looked very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/9998">TS</a>]

02:46:40   scared about my expectations like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10000">TS</a>]

02:46:42   that it was that I would be unfair to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10002">TS</a>]

02:46:44   movie that was a decent movie because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10004">TS</a>]

02:46:46   was in the original trilogy or that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10006">TS</a>]

02:46:48   would be disappointed or that my hopes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10008">TS</a>]

02:46:50   have gotten up too high and i mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10010">TS</a>]

02:46:52   the anticipation episode like how I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10012">TS</a>]

02:46:54   mentally I had this other compartment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10014">TS</a>]

02:46:56   for the standalone movies like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10016">TS</a>]

02:46:57   getting a Death Star plans or like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10017">TS</a>]

02:46:59   know Carrie like the the other thread on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10019">TS</a>]

02:47:01   Disney star wars movies that is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10021">TS</a>]

02:47:03   be interleaved with this one that those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10023">TS</a>]

02:47:05   movies I felt so much safer about that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10025">TS</a>]

02:47:07   didn't have I wasn't reading about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10027">TS</a>]

02:47:09   like oh well those just gonna be fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10029">TS</a>]

02:47:10   movies and Star Wars universe and form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10030">TS</a>]

02:47:12   is bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10032">TS</a>]

02:47:13   who cares and i like that i didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10033">TS</a>]

02:47:15   this weight of expectation and even at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10035">TS</a>]

02:47:18   the end of the first viewing this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10038">TS</a>]

02:47:19   even during the first viewing the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10039">TS</a>]

02:47:21   because it was so different because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10041">TS</a>]

02:47:22   was an original trilogy like I started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10042">TS</a>]

02:47:25   to you this movie with the same sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10045">TS</a>]

02:47:27   lack of unfair expectations about it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10047">TS</a>]

02:47:32   started to view this movie is like but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10052">TS</a>]

02:47:33   let's just pretend that this is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10053">TS</a>]

02:47:35   those standalone movies is this a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10055">TS</a>]

02:47:37   would you be happy with this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10057">TS</a>]

02:47:38   standalone movie and the answer is yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10058">TS</a>]

02:47:40   like stop using the original trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10060">TS</a>]

02:47:43   yardstick because this is a modernized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10063">TS</a>]

02:47:45   movie it's modernized in the when I talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10065">TS</a>]

02:47:47   about this like yeah yeah I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10067">TS</a>]

02:47:49   wanted to be like a modern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10069">TS</a>]

02:47:49   reinterpretation if it's not one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10069">TS</a>]

02:47:51   standalone I want to be like the old one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10071">TS</a>]

02:47:52   and I talked about in the beginning with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10072">TS</a>]

02:47:54   the opening shots not being you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10074">TS</a>]

02:47:55   they weren't Star Wars is the opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10075">TS</a>]

02:47:58   shots in the prequels but this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10078">TS</a>]

02:48:00   modernized in a bunch of different ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10080">TS</a>]

02:48:02   it's it's modernizing the film sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10082">TS</a>]

02:48:04   sensibility but it as you guys already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10084">TS</a>]

02:48:08   mentioned is modernized in the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10088">TS</a>]

02:48:10   rejection of like gender and racial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10090">TS</a>]

02:48:12   roles of the rejection of the the sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10092">TS</a>]

02:48:15   of class and race hierarchy and holly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10095">TS</a>]

02:48:17   hollywood movies it's modernized in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10097">TS</a>]

02:48:19   the good ways and and that monetization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10099">TS</a>]

02:48:24   is the really and the important part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10104">TS</a>]

02:48:26   my you know my my big takeaway this talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10106">TS</a>]

02:48:29   about this on past podcast about like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10109">TS</a>]

02:48:30   Pixar movies and everything at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10110">TS</a>]

02:48:32   point in my life it's fairly impossible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10112">TS</a>]

02:48:34   for me to look at any movie like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10114">TS</a>]

02:48:36   without taking into account and viewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10116">TS</a>]

02:48:38   it through the lens of my children as in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10118">TS</a>]

02:48:40   how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10120">TS</a>]

02:48:42   what are my kids going to take away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10122">TS</a>]

02:48:43   this is a movie I want to show to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10123">TS</a>]

02:48:45   children and that changing my opinion of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10125">TS</a>]

02:48:47   of things because if there's a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10127">TS</a>]

02:48:50   that i really enjoyed but wouldn't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10130">TS</a>]

02:48:51   to show to my children it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10131">TS</a>]

02:48:53   because the movie is like reinforcing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10133">TS</a>]

02:48:55   bad notions i have about the world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10135">TS</a>]

02:48:58   this movie that I'm going to take my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10138">TS</a>]

02:49:00   kids to tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10140">TS</a>]

02:49:02   it's like it's just so refreshing to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10142">TS</a>]

02:49:06   a movie that drops so much of the crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10146">TS</a>]

02:49:08   baggage we have that we don't have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10148">TS</a>]

02:49:10   things like books i think you know books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10150">TS</a>]

02:49:12   of and for that matter television shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10152">TS</a>]

02:49:14   a lot of common law passed that but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10154">TS</a>]

02:49:15   it's taking out the territory that used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10155">TS</a>]

02:49:17   to be the exclusive realm of starcrack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10157">TS</a>]

02:49:19   imagining a world where either there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10159">TS</a>]

02:49:22   societies or the very least characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10162">TS</a>]

02:49:24   who aren't constrained by you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10164">TS</a>]

02:49:27   the-the-the did the world that with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10167">TS</a>]

02:49:33   viewers are in like our world and our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10173">TS</a>]

02:49:35   troops and our Hollywood movies things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10175">TS</a>]

02:49:36   and having to have a princess and having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10176">TS</a>]

02:49:38   to be rescued and like i said earlier in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10178">TS</a>]

02:49:40   this podcast not falling into the trap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10180">TS</a>]

02:49:42   of having to make having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10182">TS</a>]

02:49:44   overcompensate like the just letting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10184">TS</a>]

02:49:45   people be people and allowing that did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10185">TS</a>]

02:49:48   to be sufficient and not shoving it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10188">TS</a>]

02:49:51   people's faces i mean in some ways Mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10191">TS</a>]

02:49:52   Max kinda did this to like and when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10192">TS</a>]

02:49:55   see that i think this is the movie was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10195">TS</a>]

02:49:57   gonna ask me this on Twitter on Twitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10197">TS</a>]

02:49:58   that like people keep asking what do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10198">TS</a>]

02:49:59   think what do you think I was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10199">TS</a>]

02:50:00   yeah wake up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10200">TS</a>]

02:50:01   podcast one person asked me what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10201">TS</a>]

02:50:03   thought was the most salient question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10203">TS</a>]

02:50:04   which was is this a movie you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10204">TS</a>]

02:50:06   show your kids like that was what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10206">TS</a>]

02:50:08   need to know to get my opinion on it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10208">TS</a>]

02:50:10   I could give a one-word answer and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10210">TS</a>]

02:50:11   answer is yes this is a movie I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10211">TS</a>]

02:50:13   show to my kids both because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10213">TS</a>]

02:50:15   it's a good exciting movie and because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10215">TS</a>]

02:50:18   think it is a break from the modern Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10218">TS</a>]

02:50:21   Trek movies it benefit you know based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10221">TS</a>]

02:50:23   beyond huh to go into darkness with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10223">TS</a>]

02:50:26   whole blonde racing and wasted of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10226">TS</a>]

02:50:29   characters are and yeah and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10229">TS</a>]

02:50:32   diversity represented here the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10232">TS</a>]

02:50:34   they don't like that it's not a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10234">TS</a>]

02:50:35   that there are aliens flying ships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10235">TS</a>]

02:50:37   there's a man flying next week as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10237">TS</a>]

02:50:39   woman flying x-wing this that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10239">TS</a>]

02:50:41   like it's equal opportunity in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10241">TS</a>]

02:50:43   that Star Trek always do you know in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10243">TS</a>]

02:50:44   best of Star Trek was like yeah we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10244">TS</a>]

02:50:46   have money and everyone is equal or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10246">TS</a>]

02:50:47   whatever and now start seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10247">TS</a>]

02:50:49   regressing and Star Wars is progressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10249">TS</a>]

02:50:52   so basically i come away with is there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10252">TS</a>]

02:50:54   never going to be another trilogy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10254">TS</a>]

02:50:56   the original trilogy there's never going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10256">TS</a>]

02:50:58   to be a set of movies that look and feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10258">TS</a>]

02:51:00   and act that way and I'm okay with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10260">TS</a>]

02:51:02   now and before these movies I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10262">TS</a>]

02:51:05   judging them all by the yardstick of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10265">TS</a>]

02:51:07   standalone like that what I talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10267">TS</a>]

02:51:09   like a 789 have to be different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10269">TS</a>]

02:51:11   I've had not that I've given up on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10271">TS</a>]

02:51:13   I think I moved beyond that because this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10273">TS</a>]

02:51:14   is this is so much better in so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10274">TS</a>]

02:51:16   ways than a lot of the things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10276">TS</a>]

02:51:18   in the really original trilogy and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10278">TS</a>]

02:51:20   said in the beginning it opens more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10280">TS</a>]

02:51:22   doors and it closes and that that gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10282">TS</a>]

02:51:24   me excited about the future of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10284">TS</a>]

02:51:26   franchise and I think this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10286">TS</a>]

02:51:27   franchise is headed in positive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10287">TS</a>]

02:51:29   directions which is such a refreshing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10289">TS</a>]

02:51:31   change from the past so when I and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10291">TS</a>]

02:51:35   will be my closing scene when I when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10295">TS</a>]

02:51:36   opened the this I said that this film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10296">TS</a>]

02:51:41   had two jobs and one was too tired to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10301">TS</a>]

02:51:43   the past and one was to lead the way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10303">TS</a>]

02:51:46   the future and I feel that it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10306">TS</a>]

02:51:49   succeed both of those and that the types [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10309">TS</a>]

02:51:51   of the past and I've seen some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10311">TS</a>]

02:51:53   say well you know they're really mixing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10313">TS</a>]

02:51:54   the plot like I'm okay that there remix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10314">TS</a>]

02:51:56   in the plot of star wars with a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10316">TS</a>]

02:51:57   bit of empire strikes back' thrown in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10317">TS</a>]

02:51:58   because we needed to be recognizably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10318">TS</a>]

02:52:02   start wars and I i think that the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10322">TS</a>]

02:52:07   movie needs to not do that right the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10327">TS</a>]

02:52:09   next movie needs to move ahead but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10329">TS</a>]

02:52:11   movie calling back reminding us why we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10331">TS</a>]

02:52:14   love the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10334">TS</a>]

02:52:15   general trilogy reminding us all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10335">TS</a>]

02:52:17   things we love about Star Wars replaying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10337">TS</a>]

02:52:19   some of that I think it's perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10339">TS</a>]

02:52:20   valid and ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10340">TS</a>]

02:52:21   it made that it it it reminded us why we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10341">TS</a>]

02:52:25   loved it and also got us really excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10345">TS</a>]

02:52:29   about where this story was going in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10349">TS</a>]

02:52:30   future I think those are the jobs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10350">TS</a>]

02:52:32   did those jobs and then the other job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10352">TS</a>]

02:52:34   that it did is you know we can all talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10354">TS</a>]

02:52:36   about being kids who grew up loving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10356">TS</a>]

02:52:39   original trilogy and what I will say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10359">TS</a>]

02:52:44   that my fourteen-year-old was sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10364">TS</a>]

02:52:46   next to me in the theater a jaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10366">TS</a>]

02:52:48   freshman in high school and she kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10368">TS</a>]

02:52:51   leaning over to me and telling me how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10371">TS</a>]

02:52:54   awesome the movie was and how great this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10374">TS</a>]

02:52:56   thing was and other the park as we saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10376">TS</a>]

02:52:58   3d screening where the the Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10378">TS</a>]

02:53:00   Destroyer is coming out of the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10380">TS</a>]

02:53:01   and she tried to kick it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10381">TS</a>]

02:53:03   that's because it was like it was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10383">TS</a>]

02:53:05   rated Blake rating above associate able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10385">TS</a>]

02:53:07   work it didn't work and went right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10387">TS</a>]

02:53:09   through but and then I and my son was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10389">TS</a>]

02:53:12   really excited about it and I that also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10392">TS</a>]

02:53:13   makes me feel happy about this film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10393">TS</a>]

02:53:15   because it's one thing for us old hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10395">TS</a>]

02:53:18   to judge this movie that's full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10398">TS</a>]

02:53:19   fanservice and references and say yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10399">TS</a>]

02:53:21   yes finally you're on the right path but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10401">TS</a>]

02:53:23   it's another thing to say it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10403">TS</a>]

02:53:25   that the fourteen-year-old an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10405">TS</a>]

02:53:26   eleven-year-old sitting next to me had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10406">TS</a>]

02:53:28   fantastic time at the movies maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10408">TS</a>]

02:53:30   best time that I've ever seen my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10410">TS</a>]

02:53:32   daughter having a movie and that it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10412">TS</a>]

02:53:34   makes me feel good about Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10414">TS</a>]

02:53:36   future because as we said on episodes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10416">TS</a>]

02:53:39   the uncomfortable about star wars in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10419">TS</a>]

02:53:40   past you know you could make a movie for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10420">TS</a>]

02:53:42   the fans but what you really need to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10422">TS</a>]

02:53:45   is make a movie for the next generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10425">TS</a>]

02:53:46   of fans and if the current generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10426">TS</a>]

02:53:48   who are their parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10428">TS</a>]

02:53:50   it also gets to enjoy that movie then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10430">TS</a>]

02:53:53   then you've really done it and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10433">TS</a>]

02:53:55   like this movie did that so I'm I I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10435">TS</a>]

02:53:57   know big big thumbs up going in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10437">TS</a>]

02:53:59   right direction can't wait to see what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10439">TS</a>]

02:54:01   next and can't wait to see what's coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10441">TS</a>]

02:54:03   out of that movie theater wanting to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10443">TS</a>]

02:54:05   the next movie as a and lamenting how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10445">TS</a>]

02:54:08   far away the next movie is that's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10448">TS</a>]

02:54:10   yellow seen it so soon a year from now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10450">TS</a>]

02:54:12   will be this dissecting the trail sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10452">TS</a>]

02:54:14   we sure we sure will but uh but you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10454">TS</a>]

02:54:17   I I didn't feel so much of that with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10457">TS</a>]

02:54:20   prequels but I yeah I definitely filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10460">TS</a>]

02:54:23   out there one of the it was the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10463">TS</a>]

02:54:25   trilogy is I need some time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10465">TS</a>]

02:54:27   I need some time to forget before we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10467">TS</a>]

02:54:29   it do this again and note that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10469">TS</a>]

02:54:31   happen we all came out of the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10471">TS</a>]

02:54:32   talking about what happened where we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10472">TS</a>]

02:54:34   gonna go next and boy that's a good sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10474">TS</a>]

02:54:36   that's it that's a great time for any to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10476">TS</a>]

02:54:37   have that level of excitement coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10477">TS</a>]

02:54:39   of the movies you did as you did going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10479">TS</a>]

02:54:40   in all right I think we've done enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10480">TS</a>]

02:54:43   for now they'll be much more on this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10483">TS</a>]

02:54:46   future episodes of incomparable there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10486">TS</a>]

02:54:48   no doubt but i want to thank my my core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10488">TS</a>]

02:54:50   team my the the members of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10490">TS</a>]

02:54:53   resistance who have been talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10493">TS</a>]

02:54:55   this movie 43 years and i believe we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10495">TS</a>]

02:54:58   been on basically all of the star wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10498">TS</a>]

02:55:00   episodes that the incomparable is done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10500">TS</a>]

02:55:02   back to the original film so thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10502">TS</a>]

02:55:05   to you thanks to all dan more'n thanks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10505">TS</a>]

02:55:07   lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10507">TS</a>]

02:55:08   a pleasure to be here and the force is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10508">TS</a>]

02:55:11   strong with all of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10511">TS</a>]

02:55:13   serenity call well it's time to complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10513">TS</a>]

02:55:15   your training people pull the plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10515">TS</a>]

02:55:22   siracusa please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10522">TS</a>]

02:55:23   yeah thinking about this as like phases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10523">TS</a>]

02:55:26   in life where the Star Wars movies been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10526">TS</a>]

02:55:27   a long wait for the prequels and we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10527">TS</a>]

02:55:29   just thought there would be never be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10529">TS</a>]

02:55:31   another phase this seems like the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10531">TS</a>]

02:55:33   and final phase for our lifetimes anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10533">TS</a>]

02:55:34   yeah I whoa whoa whoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10534">TS</a>]

02:55:36   Star Wars forever star wars it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10536">TS</a>]

02:55:38   horse's back exactly like Star Wars was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10538">TS</a>]

02:55:40   there then it was gone then we had the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10540">TS</a>]

02:55:43   prequels and it was kind of embarrassing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10543">TS</a>]

02:55:44   right and then it was gone again it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10544">TS</a>]

02:55:47   blessedly gone now it's back and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10547">TS</a>]

02:55:50   it's just gonna be back for the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10550">TS</a>]

02:55:52   our lives i think so basically this I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10552">TS</a>]

02:55:54   but I'm getting at is i'm happy that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10554">TS</a>]

02:55:56   live to see this movie couldn't think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10556">TS</a>]

02:55:57   a better way to end than that thanks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10557">TS</a>]

02:55:59   everybody out there for listening to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10559">TS</a>]

02:56:00   this mammoth super-sized amazing three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10560">TS</a>]

02:56:02   years in the making episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10562">TS</a>]

02:56:03   income but we will see you next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10563">TS</a>]

02:56:30   you're gonna have an after show because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10590">TS</a>]

02:56:31   i have so much more to see me John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10591">TS</a>]

02:56:34   yeah i just miss one bad thing about bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10594">TS</a>]

02:56:36   section 2 i'm surprised you guys didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10596">TS</a>]

02:56:38   bring up like also here at this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10598">TS</a>]

02:56:40   ties into my spoiler-free experiment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10600">TS</a>]

02:56:42   like you know like called and said he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10602">TS</a>]

02:56:44   was trying to avoid yeah I was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10604">TS</a>]

02:56:46   trying to avoid spoilers and I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10606">TS</a>]

02:56:48   think i was just massively successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10608">TS</a>]

02:56:50   beyond my wildest dreams like not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10610">TS</a>]

02:56:53   thinking you're spoiled didn't know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10613">TS</a>]

02:56:54   were spoiled like where's the where's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10614">TS</a>]

02:56:55   Luke right i totally thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10615">TS</a>]

02:56:57   about his absence in the marketing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10617">TS</a>]

02:56:58   materials those this was a smashing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10618">TS</a>]

02:57:00   success now here's here's the level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10620">TS</a>]

02:57:02   success to my spoiler avoidance has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10622">TS</a>]

02:57:04   to mention like I think that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10624">TS</a>]

02:57:05   that actually help setting that aside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10625">TS</a>]

02:57:07   just how could I wore them not only did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10627">TS</a>]

02:57:09   I not know anything about this movie i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10629">TS</a>]

02:57:11   forgot things that I used to know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10631">TS</a>]

02:57:13   movie i forgot who is in this movie we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10633">TS</a>]

02:57:16   had anticipated episodes where we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10636">TS</a>]

02:57:17   about the casting yes when when kylo Ren [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10637">TS</a>]

02:57:20   takes off his helmet I was like I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10640">TS</a>]

02:57:22   what wonder what that guy's gonna look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10642">TS</a>]

02:57:24   at it i forgot Adam Drake that's on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10644">TS</a>]

02:57:26   really isn't as my forgot he was in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10646">TS</a>]

02:57:28   movie at all John boyega I totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10648">TS</a>]

02:57:31   forgot about cruising I didn't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10651">TS</a>]

02:57:34   about any of the characters sounded in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10654">TS</a>]

02:57:35   this movie who I haven't seen in other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10655">TS</a>]

02:57:37   movies I didn't know Daisy really had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10657">TS</a>]

02:57:40   british accent i didn't even know she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10660">TS</a>]

02:57:41   was British John boyega I had no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10661">TS</a>]

02:57:45   was British until he missed some of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10665">TS</a>]

02:57:47   lines one he had wanted two lines i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10667">TS</a>]

02:57:49   like oh you're one of the rare actors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10669">TS</a>]

02:57:52   whose British I can tell that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10672">TS</a>]

02:57:54   British I mean he did a really good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10674">TS</a>]

02:57:56   because if you take swear they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10676">TS</a>]

02:57:57   really should have had him you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10677">TS</a>]

02:57:58   redub that because he had a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10678">TS</a>]

02:58:01   British isms and accidents in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10681">TS</a>]

02:58:03   whatever like it was just everything had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10683">TS</a>]

02:58:06   no idea obviously made it before you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10686">TS</a>]

02:58:08   into the stuff like that you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10688">TS</a>]

02:58:09   installed I of course not like other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10689">TS</a>]

02:58:11   than like three years ago I kind of knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10691">TS</a>]

02:58:12   he was gonna die but like sure nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10692">TS</a>]

02:58:14   was spoiled for this me and algae I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10694">TS</a>]

02:58:17   literally unlike oh there's a Greg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10697">TS</a>]

02:58:19   Grunberg again had a man I knew he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10699">TS</a>]

02:58:22   in this movie three years ago right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10702">TS</a>]

02:58:23   I had no idea what we I think we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10703">TS</a>]

02:58:25   knew I mean Greg Grunberg is literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10705">TS</a>]

02:58:28   and everything just announced does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10708">TS</a>]

02:58:29   understand the system that's right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10709">TS</a>]

02:58:32   you gotta know JJ and then you're in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10712">TS</a>]

02:58:34   his movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10714">TS</a>]

02:58:35   I wasn't but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10715">TS</a>]

02:58:36   he seems just like survived so I I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10716">TS</a>]

02:58:39   like he's going to be a new the new was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10719">TS</a>]

02:58:41   it was a wedge shoes in all the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10721">TS</a>]

02:58:43   yea yea be yea like that was the magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10723">TS</a>]

02:58:47   of being old like me the idea that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10727">TS</a>]

02:58:49   seriously on first viewing us like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10729">TS</a>]

02:58:51   wonder what color would look like under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10731">TS</a>]

02:58:53   I wonder what voices actor's voice the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10733">TS</a>]

02:58:54   issues is that the same actor is going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10734">TS</a>]

02:58:56   to be inside the masculine and he takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10736">TS</a>]

02:58:58   it off like oh that's right he's in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10738">TS</a>]

02:59:00   movie so I have some combination of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10740">TS</a>]

02:59:02   memory suppression and isolation I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10742">TS</a>]

02:59:05   will say I totally nailed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10745">TS</a>]

02:59:08   the the spoiler thing i did watch that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10748">TS</a>]

02:59:10   trip that trailer a few times and I that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10750">TS</a>]

02:59:13   was the level that i was i was able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10753">TS</a>]

02:59:15   go to but I otherwise insulated myself I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10755">TS</a>]

02:59:17   i read you know I read very little and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10757">TS</a>]

02:59:20   for the last few weeks I've kind of kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10760">TS</a>]

02:59:22   completely like out of it and then this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10762">TS</a>]

02:59:24   week since the screening I basically was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10764">TS</a>]

02:59:27   only looking at replies on Twitter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10767">TS</a>]

02:59:29   not anything else I and I had I had mute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10769">TS</a>]

02:59:32   filters and all those things going and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10772">TS</a>]

02:59:34   it was great because i went in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10774">TS</a>]

02:59:36   having absolutely no idea other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10776">TS</a>]

02:59:38   like what we had talked about on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10778">TS</a>]

02:59:39   podcast about how you know that the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10779">TS</a>]

02:59:43   know this is daisy ridley and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10783">TS</a>]

02:59:44   john boyega and he's a stormtrooper cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10784">TS</a>]

02:59:46   he's got the costume on and I mean it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10786">TS</a>]

02:59:47   like and we know that the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10787">TS</a>]

02:59:48   actors actors are in it but that is it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10788">TS</a>]

02:59:51   i had no it was great it was great like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10791">TS</a>]

02:59:54   I said lauren said I don't know what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10794">TS</a>]

02:59:57   crawl is going to say like those that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10797">TS</a>]

02:59:57   crawl is going to say like those that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10797">TS</a>]

03:00:00   kind of a fun thing and I saw in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10800">TS</a>]

03:00:02   same theater so I episode 1 so I'd that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10802">TS</a>]

03:00:04   moment of like I remembered how exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10804">TS</a>]

03:00:07   it was we didn't even talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10807">TS</a>]

03:00:08   fact they didn't even doing no fanfare I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10808">TS</a>]

03:00:10   disney fanfare there was no fanfare was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10810">TS</a>]

03:00:12   just Lucasfilm which is good because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10812">TS</a>]

03:00:13   was like 20 minutes of trailers before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10813">TS</a>]

03:00:16   yeah i would say what if they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10816">TS</a>]

03:00:17   just paid Fox we just use your thang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10817">TS</a>]

03:00:19   seriously just let us use it would just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10819">TS</a>]

03:00:21   use the pan for your local see there i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10821">TS</a>]

03:00:22   figured the dead John Williams should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10822">TS</a>]

03:00:24   orchestrate a version of the of the when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10824">TS</a>]

03:00:26   you wish upon a star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10826">TS</a>]

03:00:28   disney fanfare in the style of the 20th [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10828">TS</a>]

03:00:31   Century Fox fanfare but instead i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10831">TS</a>]

03:00:33   you made a good choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10833">TS</a>]

03:00:34   yep just nothing Star Wars means that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10834">TS</a>]

03:00:38   a good let's do the star wars music yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10838">TS</a>]

03:00:40   for future reference for like my spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10840">TS</a>]

03:00:42   avoidance like because it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10842">TS</a>]

03:00:44   difficult that really what I should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10844">TS</a>]

03:00:45   done is what many people said they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10845">TS</a>]

03:00:46   which is like in the weeks or so leading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10846">TS</a>]

03:00:48   up to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10848">TS</a>]

03:00:48   stop reading Twitter stop reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10848">TS</a>]

03:00:51   internet stopped doing the stunt rally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10851">TS</a>]

03:00:52   but instead like you because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10852">TS</a>]

03:00:54   dictate Twitter whatever and study took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10854">TS</a>]

03:00:56   the filter approached by like Anna and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10856">TS</a>]

03:00:59   like I had a set of filters they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10859">TS</a>]

03:01:00   have growing and growing by the days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10860">TS</a>]

03:01:02   before I want to see this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10862">TS</a>]

03:01:04   my my Twitter mute filters had words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10864">TS</a>]

03:01:06   like line and movie and including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10866">TS</a>]

03:01:09   including misspellings like ticket tix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10869">TS</a>]

03:01:12   like I was like anything that could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10872">TS</a>]

03:01:14   remotely because I was always thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10874">TS</a>]

03:01:16   about what is that one tweet that is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10876">TS</a>]

03:01:18   going to have any Star Wars related [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10878">TS</a>]

03:01:19   words in it but it's going to manage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10879">TS</a>]

03:01:21   there was like a game like is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10881">TS</a>]

03:01:22   possible to spoil this without putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10882">TS</a>]

03:01:23   thing and like any like when the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10883">TS</a>]

03:01:26   line and who knows how many tweets i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10886">TS</a>]

03:01:27   missed of these past few days and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10887">TS</a>]

03:01:28   that's so stupid i should just stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10888">TS</a>]

03:01:30   reading Twitter entirely but instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10890">TS</a>]

03:01:32   just keep adding filters every time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10892">TS</a>]

03:01:33   thought of a conceivable tweet and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10893">TS</a>]

03:01:35   I'm so glad that I didn't watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10895">TS</a>]

03:01:37   trailer cause i had my brain had nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10897">TS</a>]

03:01:39   to work on other than you know is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10899">TS</a>]

03:01:41   three years ago seems like Hans going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10901">TS</a>]

03:01:42   die because he doesn't want to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10902">TS</a>]

03:01:44   these movies anything like other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10904">TS</a>]

03:01:45   that like in jamba i get i didn't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10905">TS</a>]

03:01:47   like always in a stormtrooper outfit i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10907">TS</a>]

03:01:49   remember us discussing well so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10909">TS</a>]

03:01:50   looking hotter and storm two rabbits in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10910">TS</a>]

03:01:52   new hope they weren't actually started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10912">TS</a>]

03:01:54   maybe he was in disguise and just trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10914">TS</a>]

03:01:55   to escape over like nothing i knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10915">TS</a>]

03:01:57   nothing about it was so awesome like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10917">TS</a>]

03:02:00   don't think I maybe we'll make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10920">TS</a>]

03:02:01   difference because once you see it once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10921">TS</a>]

03:02:02   then you know anyway and who cares like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10922">TS</a>]

03:02:03   it like as I tweeted i retweeted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10923">TS</a>]

03:02:05   something that someone said like movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10925">TS</a>]

03:02:07   are not plot their delivery services the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10927">TS</a>]

03:02:09   point is not that the events that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10929">TS</a>]

03:02:10   happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10930">TS</a>]

03:02:11   how the story is told and I totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10931">TS</a>]

03:02:13   believe that but there's something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10933">TS</a>]

03:02:15   refreshing an old-fashioned about just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10935">TS</a>]

03:02:17   like going in like my kids are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10937">TS</a>]

03:02:19   again and get you know they're gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10939">TS</a>]

03:02:20   to see this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10940">TS</a>]

03:02:21   my daughter hasn't seen any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10941">TS</a>]

03:02:23   trailer she's been wearing rape ujamaa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10943">TS</a>]

03:02:25   is for like the past three months like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10945">TS</a>]

03:02:27   it's got you know ray with her staff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10947">TS</a>]

03:02:28   forever she wears it all the time she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10948">TS</a>]

03:02:30   has no idea who that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10950">TS</a>]

03:02:31   she's not interested in my son has seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10951">TS</a>]

03:02:33   the trailers that he's seen them sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10953">TS</a>]

03:02:35   secretly on his own as I see them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10955">TS</a>]

03:02:37   at the end you to writing is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10957">TS</a>]

03:02:39   just finished watching it I'm so he may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10959">TS</a>]

03:02:41   be a little more excited but they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10961">TS</a>]

03:02:43   no idea what this what's in this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10963">TS</a>]

03:02:44   so there I like the idea that i went in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10964">TS</a>]

03:02:47   the same kind of mindset that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10967">TS</a>]

03:02:49   going to go in not knowing what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10969">TS</a>]

03:02:51   in for the same way that I had no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10971">TS</a>]

03:02:52   other than 4 10 and in 2 star wars so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10972">TS</a>]

03:02:54   this was a a smashing success and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10974">TS</a>]

03:02:58   know would recommend would do again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10978">TS</a>]

03:03:01   Despoiler of ordnance yeah I'm with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10981">TS</a>]

03:03:04   I i did that i said this on the Doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10984">TS</a>]

03:03:06   Who flash cast this year that in past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10986">TS</a>]

03:03:09   years I I gone to gaol freebase and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10989">TS</a>]

03:03:12   read the spoiler threads and it was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10992">TS</a>]

03:03:13   of fun and this year I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10993">TS</a>]

03:03:15   because i don't have a I don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10995">TS</a>]

03:03:17   desk job anymore and I i used to mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10997">TS</a>]

03:03:19   have a desk job here but i have like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/10999">TS</a>]

03:03:20   commute job where i used to like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11000">TS</a>]

03:03:22   lunch break was reading the spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11002">TS</a>]

03:03:24   forums it's like I would get my sandwich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11004">TS</a>]

03:03:25   and I would sit at my desk and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11005">TS</a>]

03:03:27   would be my break from the actual work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11007">TS</a>]

03:03:29   work and I kind of don't do that anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11009">TS</a>]

03:03:31   because I'm gonna go in the house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11011">TS</a>]

03:03:32   make a sandwich I come back and work or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11012">TS</a>]

03:03:34   i watch TV on your wife is a break it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11014">TS</a>]

03:03:37   exactly right it's all I can just do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11017">TS</a>]

03:03:38   whatever right at but it regardless the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11018">TS</a>]

03:03:42   the end product was that I had no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11022">TS</a>]

03:03:44   what happened and it was fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11024">TS</a>]

03:03:46   it's like oh this is how people live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11026">TS</a>]

03:03:47   they don't know what's happening and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11027">TS</a>]

03:03:49   then somebody tells the story and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11029">TS</a>]

03:03:50   don't have any expectations that's nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11030">TS</a>]

03:03:53   it's a good thing that I'm not as big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11033">TS</a>]

03:03:54   eye doctor who fan because the trail the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11034">TS</a>]

03:03:56   n-terminal trailers before the force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11036">TS</a>]

03:03:58   awakens included spoilers for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11038">TS</a>]

03:04:00   Christmas special and I'm not been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11040">TS</a>]

03:04:01   released yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11041">TS</a>]

03:04:02   yes I'm not done with the season yet oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11042">TS</a>]

03:04:04   so I don't know if if i had finished the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11044">TS</a>]

03:04:07   season this is wouldn't have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11047">TS</a>]

03:04:08   spoiler lots of twists there's lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11048">TS</a>]

03:04:10   twists and turns though in that season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11050">TS</a>]

03:04:11   so you may not end up feeling a spoil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11051">TS</a>]

03:04:14   this you thought but yeah butBut I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11054">TS</a>]

03:04:16   but I am now but the whole point is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11056">TS</a>]

03:04:17   I'm not done with the season and yet the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11057">TS</a>]

03:04:19   Christmas special thing came up and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11059">TS</a>]

03:04:21   showed things they revealed things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11061">TS</a>]

03:04:23   no they were excitedly revealing things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11063">TS</a>]

03:04:25   in the christmas special the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11065">TS</a>]

03:04:26   knew was like you didn't know this would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11066">TS</a>]

03:04:28   happen is like seriously I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11068">TS</a>]

03:04:30   that much about yeah i'm not a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11070">TS</a>]

03:04:31   but I felt like and importantly so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11071">TS</a>]

03:04:34   they're like well you've managed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11074">TS</a>]

03:04:35   avoid Star Wars spoils but we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11075">TS</a>]

03:04:37   to spoil a damn Christmas special spoil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11077">TS</a>]

03:04:38   everything else but not too caught up by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11078">TS</a>]

03:04:41   Christmas probably that's the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11081">TS</a>]

03:04:42   oh yeah like tivo Christmas special and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11082">TS</a>]

03:04:44   watch it like a month from not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11084">TS</a>]

03:04:45   that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11085">TS</a>]

03:04:46   its nose and Massachusetts just little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11086">TS</a>]

03:04:49   seam snowy at a later time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11089">TS</a>]

03:04:52   that's fine we had a spoiler thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11092">TS</a>]

03:04:54   it's it's kind of nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11094">TS</a>]

03:04:55   yeah it can't can't always do it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11095">TS</a>]

03:04:56   everything but living in an unspoiled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11096">TS</a>]

03:04:58   life was was coming pretty pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11098">TS</a>]

03:05:00   too much more so so the the trailer you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11100">TS</a>]

03:05:04   you're glad you didn't watch it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11104">TS</a>]

03:05:07   yes very glad so was like i said i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11107">TS</a>]

03:05:10   didn't i didn't even know what their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11110">TS</a>]

03:05:11   voices sound like and they speak in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11111">TS</a>]

03:05:13   second yeah that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11113">TS</a>]

03:05:14   like it was just totally like at how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11114">TS</a>]

03:05:17   didn't know what happened look like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11117">TS</a>]

03:05:18   know because not all of them are even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11118">TS</a>]

03:05:20   the first trailer and that point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11120">TS</a>]

03:05:21   trailer was good that trailer is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11121">TS</a>]

03:05:23   than the movie vibro said that in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11123">TS</a>]

03:05:24   podcasting in addition to all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11124">TS</a>]

03:05:26   things like that second trailer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11126">TS</a>]

03:05:28   better that it's not it's easy to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11128">TS</a>]

03:05:29   that most trailer better than they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11129">TS</a>]

03:05:31   should be that's their job and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11131">TS</a>]

03:05:32   the trailers better than we but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11132">TS</a>]

03:05:34   trailer is better than the movie was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11134">TS</a>]

03:05:36   in the old days wasn't every trailer for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11136">TS</a>]

03:05:38   the original star was crap and yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11138">TS</a>]

03:05:39   really good back before they know how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11139">TS</a>]

03:05:41   make trailers but nowadays they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11141">TS</a>]

03:05:43   like like they have with junk food that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11143">TS</a>]

03:05:45   is you know made to be its engineer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11145">TS</a>]

03:05:47   addicting you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11147">TS</a>]

03:05:48   yeah engineered to like trailers are and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11148">TS</a>]

03:05:50   that second trailer just boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11150">TS</a>]

03:05:52   yeah i just watched over our oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11152">TS</a>]

03:05:55   that's good good trailer right to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11155">TS</a>]

03:06:00   next one now so the next what's next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11160">TS</a>]

03:06:01   movie it's going to be the the Death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11161">TS</a>]

03:06:03   Star plans well yeah it's the Rogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11163">TS</a>]

03:06:06   Squadron or whatever it is it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11166">TS</a>]

03:06:08   Death Star plans standalone a year after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11168">TS</a>]

03:06:11   that is eight ya sign broken want robe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11171">TS</a>]

03:06:15   one is the name of it and that's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11175">TS</a>]

03:06:18   that the John Knoll had the idea for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11178">TS</a>]

03:06:21   story which is basically why don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11181">TS</a>]

03:06:23   tell the story of the ceiling of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11183">TS</a>]

03:06:24   Death Star plans and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11184">TS</a>]

03:06:27   that's got another another woman in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11187">TS</a>]

03:06:30   lead role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11190">TS</a>]

03:06:31   felicity jones that's just so like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11191">TS</a>]

03:06:34   don't know why I care so much about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11194">TS</a>]

03:06:36   but i think it's just like boredom with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11196">TS</a>]

03:06:37   the same story in the same meathead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11197">TS</a>]

03:06:39   characters and the same roles for it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11199">TS</a>]

03:06:42   just like something is nice that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11202">TS</a>]

03:06:43   comparison is two books where you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11203">TS</a>]

03:06:45   have that same as much love so much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11205">TS</a>]

03:06:47   variety of books cool I guess it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11207">TS</a>]

03:06:48   more diversity of things that are able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11208">TS</a>]

03:06:50   to be sold but you get books but all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11210">TS</a>]

03:06:51   sorts of things and movies just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11211">TS</a>]

03:06:53   right down and it's great that this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11213">TS</a>]

03:06:56   know that did this sort of changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11216">TS</a>]

03:06:58   happening within the realm of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11218">TS</a>]

03:07:00   most wrote thing that Hollywood does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11220">TS</a>]

03:07:02   which is like giant franchises and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11222">TS</a>]

03:07:04   sequels and using that as a vehicle to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11224">TS</a>]

03:07:06   tell different kinds of stories is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11226">TS</a>]

03:07:08   really interesting hack of the system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11228">TS</a>]

03:07:11   cross a firefly cross over there to alan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11231">TS</a>]

03:07:15   tudyk ass and is in rogue one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11235">TS</a>]

03:07:18   yeah so you get your kids while you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11238">TS</a>]

03:07:20   your wash in Maya in my store in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11240">TS</a>]

03:07:23   bottom spies who knows what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11243">TS</a>]

03:07:25   wrote like some of the characters that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11245">TS</a>]

03:07:26   saw in the force awakens like all i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11246">TS</a>]

03:07:28   remember when i read they were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11248">TS</a>]

03:07:29   casting but they're likely have one line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11249">TS</a>]

03:07:30   or another in the background right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11250">TS</a>]

03:07:32   before or its lupita nyong'o she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11252">TS</a>]

03:07:34   voice in an orange CJ million yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11254">TS</a>]

03:07:37   was one of the things that might help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11257">TS</a>]

03:07:39   setting it was like one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11259">TS</a>]

03:07:41   weaknesses of the force awakens is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11261">TS</a>]

03:07:43   are a lot of moving parts kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11263">TS</a>]

03:07:45   the Avengers is a lot of moving parts a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11265">TS</a>]

03:07:47   lot of characters and a lot of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11267">TS</a>]

03:07:49   beats don't quite work getaway they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11269">TS</a>]

03:07:52   should like for example the the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11272">TS</a>]

03:07:54   example is the blowing up of the star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11274">TS</a>]

03:07:56   killer thing that's not really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11276">TS</a>]

03:07:59   triumphant moment it's not intended to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11279">TS</a>]

03:08:01   be a triumphant moment it echoes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11281">TS</a>]

03:08:03   triumphant moments of other movies where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11283">TS</a>]

03:08:05   they both desktop but but at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11285">TS</a>]

03:08:07   it becomes very clear to us that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11287">TS</a>]

03:08:09   don't really care about the conflict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11289">TS</a>]

03:08:11   that much between the resistance and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11291">TS</a>]

03:08:13   first-order what we care about is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11293">TS</a>]

03:08:16   state of our characters and we just seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11296">TS</a>]

03:08:17   on dice / sad and we'll all we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11297">TS</a>]

03:08:20   like we're like thin we care about are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11300">TS</a>]

03:08:22   you rescuing ray because we care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11302">TS</a>]

03:08:24   ready at this point we care less about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11304">TS</a>]

03:08:26   and the thing that the hack of of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11306">TS</a>]

03:08:28   original trilogy is the Luke Vader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11308">TS</a>]

03:08:30   diameters by the way that why it can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11310">TS</a>]

03:08:32   be like a like empires because Luke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11312">TS</a>]

03:08:34   greater dynamic in the father-son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11314">TS</a>]

03:08:35   dynamic that's the good bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11315">TS</a>]

03:08:37   just there that is our proxy for we care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11317">TS</a>]

03:08:39   about the larger good battle because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11319">TS</a>]

03:08:41   care about the smaller Luke Vader battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11321">TS</a>]

03:08:44   because that's our thing to hang onto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11324">TS</a>]

03:08:46   here and here i care about Daisy I care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11326">TS</a>]

03:08:48   about her safety and her her growth in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11328">TS</a>]

03:08:51   her success in her friends that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11331">TS</a>]

03:08:52   getting off that stupid planet right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11332">TS</a>]

03:08:54   getting enough food to eat that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11334">TS</a>]

03:08:56   care about that's what Finn cares about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11336">TS</a>]

03:08:57   and that's why the thread the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11337">TS</a>]

03:09:01   thread like it i think the thread that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11341">TS</a>]

03:09:02   feels the most kind of like off to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11342">TS</a>]

03:09:03   side is the PO threat like he's cool and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11343">TS</a>]

03:09:06   I like him and it's good that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11346">TS</a>]

03:09:07   fighting the resistance but he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11347">TS</a>]

03:09:08   he doesn't have a close connection with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11348">TS</a>]

03:09:10   the other people he's not kind of part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11350">TS</a>]

03:09:11   of that content in the dark matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11351">TS</a>]

03:09:14   particles video is about side a guy i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11354">TS</a>]

03:09:16   got that reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11356">TS</a>]

03:09:18   um he uh I think the thai there is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11358">TS</a>]

03:09:22   he started to bb-8 and they're tied to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11362">TS</a>]

03:09:24   bb-8 and then he's tied 2-2 thin in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11364">TS</a>]

03:09:27   they've had they had that finally moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11367">TS</a>]

03:09:29   in the TIE fighter right so there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11369">TS</a>]

03:09:31   connection but it's not super super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11371">TS</a>]

03:09:33   tighten that that's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11373">TS</a>]

03:09:34   questions like well what were they gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11374">TS</a>]

03:09:36   go with this how do these characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11376">TS</a>]

03:09:37   move forward because they're not all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11377">TS</a>]

03:09:39   together right yeah and I feel like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11379">TS</a>]

03:09:41   can they can move leave some behind or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11381">TS</a>]

03:09:43   have them be minor and have them come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11383">TS</a>]

03:09:45   back they don't have to keep them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11385">TS</a>]

03:09:46   together but just for an individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11386">TS</a>]

03:09:47   story structure like it suffers from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11387">TS</a>]

03:09:49   same problems the vendors or any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11389">TS</a>]

03:09:50   movie that has a lot of characters all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11390">TS</a>]

03:09:52   which are like well these are all i care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11392">TS</a>]

03:09:55   about all these characters all kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11395">TS</a>]

03:09:56   part that it's like well now we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11396">TS</a>]

03:09:57   have enough minutes to establish you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11397">TS</a>]

03:10:00   know you have to spend your minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11400">TS</a>]

03:10:01   somewhere and they I think they wisely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11401">TS</a>]

03:10:02   spent a lot of them on ray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11402">TS</a>]

03:10:04   but then it's like it's almost as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11404">TS</a>]

03:10:05   this would have been a better movie you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11405">TS</a>]

03:10:06   cut out some threads and simplified but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11406">TS</a>]

03:10:08   that's not the movie there now because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11408">TS</a>]

03:10:09   they had to set up a lot of yeah I is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11409">TS</a>]

03:10:11   agreed more like a middle movie than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11411">TS</a>]

03:10:13   first move well you shoulda Hara said in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11413">TS</a>]

03:10:15   the chat room and I agree with this too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11415">TS</a>]

03:10:16   is the the end of this movie is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11416">TS</a>]

03:10:18   feels a little more like empire that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11418">TS</a>]

03:10:20   doesn't host a whole movie does because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11420">TS</a>]

03:10:22   then they come to a story in progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11422">TS</a>]

03:10:23   with stuff you don't know and like in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11423">TS</a>]

03:10:26   end son that's why the second movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11426">TS</a>]

03:10:27   candy Empire was it you can't be a hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11427">TS</a>]

03:10:29   because it's not like these it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11429">TS</a>]

03:10:30   like we separate the two girls like now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11430">TS</a>]

03:10:32   on the next episode ray and and kyle are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11432">TS</a>]

03:10:35   going to have their epic battle little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11435">TS</a>]

03:10:36   bit hard much of a connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11436">TS</a>]

03:10:38   it'll be part of like Empire though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11438">TS</a>]

03:10:39   because of the training thing I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11439">TS</a>]

03:10:41   that one you know there's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11441">TS</a>]

03:10:42   yoda-esque-type of like people you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11442">TS</a>]

03:10:44   delighted our training unless they skip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11444">TS</a>]

03:10:46   ahead right and around trained yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11446">TS</a>]

03:10:49   see the thing with their already trained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11449">TS</a>]

03:10:50   like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11450">TS</a>]

03:10:50   there's no as far as we know right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11450">TS</a>]

03:10:52   there is no actual connection between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11452">TS</a>]

03:10:54   them like they want each other only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11454">TS</a>]

03:10:56   because they were they were at odds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11456">TS</a>]

03:10:57   the place where they were but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11457">TS</a>]

03:10:58   like there's a father-son connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11458">TS</a>]

03:11:00   like there was a connection between red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11460">TS</a>]

03:11:01   and solo might have that conversation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11461">TS</a>]

03:11:03   this movie other than the I think maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11463">TS</a>]

03:11:05   it's just the poles of dark and light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11465">TS</a>]

03:11:07   that they're there these are the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11467">TS</a>]

03:11:10   like powers lurking under the surface of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11470">TS</a>]

03:11:12   whatever political things are going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11472">TS</a>]

03:11:14   that it's like the part that we care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11474">TS</a>]

03:11:16   about but to be interesting it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11476">TS</a>]

03:11:18   a lot sooner because they shifted this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11478">TS</a>]

03:11:20   movie got pushed back to December and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11480">TS</a>]

03:11:22   episode 8 is in may of 17 so it is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11482">TS</a>]

03:11:27   a year and a half away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11487">TS</a>]

03:11:28   it's pretty funny it and raised like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11488">TS</a>]

03:11:31   was coming there were some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11491">TS</a>]

03:11:32   theories like oh she's a twin sister to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11492">TS</a>]

03:11:35   bend is it doesn't doesn't really make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11495">TS</a>]

03:11:37   any sense in the context of the movie i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11497">TS</a>]

03:11:39   think if she's any if she's anything the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11499">TS</a>]

03:11:41   related to people we know which i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11501">TS</a>]

03:11:43   is the strong implication everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11503">TS</a>]

03:11:45   assumes that she's Luke's daughter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11505">TS</a>]

03:11:47   that there may be things that dead maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11507">TS</a>]

03:11:49   Leia nose and Han new or maybe not maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11509">TS</a>]

03:11:53   this is like doesn't seem like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11513">TS</a>]

03:11:54   like a private thing about like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11514">TS</a>]

03:11:56   Luke's deal was as a Jedi and this was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11516">TS</a>]

03:12:00   thing that was out there and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11520">TS</a>]

03:12:02   kind of like not not address but it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11522">TS</a>]

03:12:04   be interesting to see because they did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11524">TS</a>]

03:12:05   is not addressed it's just there's lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11525">TS</a>]

03:12:07   of implications and like the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11527">TS</a>]

03:12:10   right where it's like I don't know we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11530">TS</a>]

03:12:12   see you know that there's no there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11532">TS</a>]

03:12:14   mentioning of this there's no ambiguity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11534">TS</a>]

03:12:16   about Luke's parentage in New Hope right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11536">TS</a>]

03:12:19   it's not even a question like that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11539">TS</a>]

03:12:21   just when we know everything you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11541">TS</a>]

03:12:23   there and then you're surprised later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11543">TS</a>]

03:12:24   here we have the questions are primed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11544">TS</a>]

03:12:25   for but like you know again the obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11545">TS</a>]

03:12:27   ray things like that she's Luke's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11547">TS</a>]

03:12:29   daughter and I always imagined like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11549">TS</a>]

03:12:30   probably aren't the Jedi not supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11550">TS</a>]

03:12:33   you know have attachments and wives and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11553">TS</a>]

03:12:35   children whose imagine like the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11555">TS</a>]

03:12:37   thing Luke does after blowing up the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11557">TS</a>]

03:12:39   Death Star in Jedi sort of a chorus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11559">TS</a>]

03:12:41   three is like the equivalent of Vatican [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11561">TS</a>]

03:12:43   to where he rejiggered the gyro books as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11563">TS</a>]

03:12:44   you know what you're like to get married [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11564">TS</a>]

03:12:46   have kids and women can be like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11566">TS</a>]

03:12:48   going to be jealous but you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11568">TS</a>]

03:12:49   the equivalent of Vatican to where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11569">TS</a>]

03:12:51   like I can i can make the rules and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11571">TS</a>]

03:12:53   who says I can't have a child I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11573">TS</a>]

03:12:55   that much better than the like Oh Luke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11575">TS</a>]

03:12:57   had an illicit child and had to hide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11577">TS</a>]

03:12:59   which is so terrible because it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11579">TS</a>]

03:13:00   who's stupid religious order rules are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11580">TS</a>]

03:13:02   your father are you following when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11582">TS</a>]

03:13:04   ask Jedi the other spoiler thing that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11584">TS</a>]

03:13:08   didn't hear anywhere but my brain having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11588">TS</a>]

03:13:10   so little to work on had to work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11590">TS</a>]

03:13:12   something and one of its pet things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11592">TS</a>]

03:13:14   was working i think maybe based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11594">TS</a>]

03:13:15   something someone created at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11595">TS</a>]

03:13:17   like someone tweeted something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11597">TS</a>]

03:13:18   well the signs were always there i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11598">TS</a>]

03:13:20   that's the only thing i read that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11600">TS</a>]

03:13:22   be considered a spoiler and my brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11602">TS</a>]

03:13:23   work on that is in episode 7 Luke has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11603">TS</a>]

03:13:26   gone to the dark side and he's turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11606">TS</a>]

03:13:28   evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11608">TS</a>]

03:13:28   yeah he is the big he's the big bad in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11608">TS</a>]

03:13:30   the new series of movies and I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11610">TS</a>]

03:13:32   basically come to terms with that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11612">TS</a>]

03:13:33   said that is a plausible thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11613">TS</a>]

03:13:35   could happen because he came really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11615">TS</a>]

03:13:37   close to hurting the dark side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11617">TS</a>]

03:13:38   he essentially did fall in with sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11618">TS</a>]

03:13:41   redeemed by sin the end he came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11621">TS</a>]

03:13:42   ahead but he's susceptible to it and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11622">TS</a>]

03:13:44   you're the only Jedi left and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11624">TS</a>]

03:13:46   you're asked to do very difficult things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11626">TS</a>]

03:13:47   that you could become the big bad i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11627">TS</a>]

03:13:49   glad though that they didn't go in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11629">TS</a>]

03:13:51   direction and is it took a lot of work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11631">TS</a>]

03:13:52   for me to become okay with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11632">TS</a>]

03:13:54   yeah i agree it'll be interesting to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11634">TS</a>]

03:13:57   I assume that I'm very surprised that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11637">TS</a>]

03:14:00   has no snow dialogue that was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11640">TS</a>]

03:14:03   kind of does the ultimate troll i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11643">TS</a>]

03:14:05   it kind of tickles me in the end I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11645">TS</a>]

03:14:07   like there's nobody ever does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11647">TS</a>]

03:14:08   you never even said a word and he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11648">TS</a>]

03:14:10   good MacGuffin for the movie is luke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11650">TS</a>]

03:14:12   skywalker Spanish the MacGuffin for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11652">TS</a>]

03:14:14   whole movie and like they could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11654">TS</a>]

03:14:16   like here's the thing either but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11656">TS</a>]

03:14:17   watching a movie like so I I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11657">TS</a>]

03:14:19   knew from from the timing looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11659">TS</a>]

03:14:21   your watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11661">TS</a>]

03:14:21   are they gonna end with like I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11661">TS</a>]

03:14:25   out the final look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11665">TS</a>]

03:14:26   are they actually going to go finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11666">TS</a>]

03:14:27   found I'm glad they did because the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11667">TS</a>]

03:14:28   payoff which I love the fact that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11668">TS</a>]

03:14:30   didn't hammer home and a half the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11670">TS</a>]

03:14:31   aren't going to get it is like pan up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11671">TS</a>]

03:14:33   an ocean with an island and then that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11673">TS</a>]

03:14:36   you you're supposed to get that if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11676">TS</a>]

03:14:37   lands it's like Oh Cassie that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11677">TS</a>]

03:14:40   perfect sense and so they did go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11680">TS</a>]

03:14:42   then get there i mean obviously the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11682">TS</a>]

03:14:44   for there to be anything but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11684">TS</a>]

03:14:45   question is do they get does the online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11685">TS</a>]

03:14:48   a dog to get to instead they put that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11688">TS</a>]

03:14:49   fucking helicopter shot and I gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11689">TS</a>]

03:14:50   smack him i'll cut that out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11690">TS</a>]

03:14:52   special edition right don't make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11692">TS</a>]

03:14:56   special edition of these george lucas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11696">TS</a>]

03:14:57   mexico auditions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11697">TS</a>]

03:14:58   now let's hope not yeah that's the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11698">TS</a>]

03:15:01   refreshing thing it's nice to think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11701">TS</a>]

03:15:03   I won't have to endure special editions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11703">TS</a>]

03:15:05   of these like that just the movie I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11705">TS</a>]

03:15:07   the movie and the movie now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11707">TS</a>]

03:15:09   that's totally the movie now put some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11709">TS</a>]

03:15:11   bonus stuff on the on the DVD or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11711">TS</a>]

03:15:14   something but no it's a good movie you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11714">TS</a>]

03:15:16   know it's a good movie using end-users [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11716">TS</a>]

03:15:18   Star Wars stuff and it uses it mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11718">TS</a>]

03:15:20   right and it the stuff that it adds or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11720">TS</a>]

03:15:23   modernizes it does in ways that seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11723">TS</a>]

03:15:25   like you know it's kinda like dividing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11725">TS</a>]

03:15:27   the original intent of the framers of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11727">TS</a>]

03:15:29   the Constitution it's like yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11729">TS</a>]

03:15:30   sort of like how I tie fighter would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11730">TS</a>]

03:15:32   work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11732">TS</a>]

03:15:32   yeah but I'm gonna but what kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11732">TS</a>]

03:15:34   slavery part because seriously yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11734">TS</a>]

03:15:36   yeah well they had slaves but we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11736">TS</a>]

03:15:39   the modern version is not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11739">TS</a>]

03:15:41   like oh it's okay to have slaves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11741">TS</a>]

03:15:42   yeah you know but they just follow the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11742">TS</a>]

03:15:45   line follow the things along and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11745">TS</a>]

03:15:47   that's good that's good smell their kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11747">TS</a>]

03:15:50   of kind of wasted brand of Tarth I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11750">TS</a>]

03:15:52   bad hope she's yeah well I I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11752">TS</a>]

03:15:54   that's anything that's a boba fett kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11754">TS</a>]

03:15:56   of thing where they put her in there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11756">TS</a>]

03:15:58   then they bring her back and give her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11758">TS</a>]

03:15:59   more to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11759">TS</a>]

03:15:59   I don't know she was there as a foil for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11759">TS</a>]

03:16:01   finding i do a funny scene i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11761">TS</a>]

03:16:04   enjoy that scene where he's really mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11764">TS</a>]

03:16:05   at her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11765">TS</a>]

03:16:06   it's like wouldn't think now has MA it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11766">TS</a>]

03:16:08   looks like it took bring it down kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11768">TS</a>]

03:16:11   look out and that was that the console [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11771">TS</a>]

03:16:14   voice of reason but uh you know and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11774">TS</a>]

03:16:18   and you also get the payoff of him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11778">TS</a>]

03:16:19   working in sanitation is like there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11779">TS</a>]

03:16:21   attraction yeah just like if I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11781">TS</a>]

03:16:23   where that is we do like that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11783">TS</a>]

03:16:26   another thing I forgot to mention think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11786">TS</a>]

03:16:27   so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11787">TS</a>]

03:16:28   a key element i think of Star Wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11788">TS</a>]

03:16:29   especially the original trilogy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11789">TS</a>]

03:16:31   some of the writing is not all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11791">TS</a>]

03:16:33   great and the difference is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11793">TS</a>]

03:16:35   actors are able are able to sell lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11795">TS</a>]

03:16:38   that on the page don't have much to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11798">TS</a>]

03:16:40   just for their performances in a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11800">TS</a>]

03:16:42   bunch of those in the force awakens like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11802">TS</a>]

03:16:44   you just said one like you know he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11804">TS</a>]

03:16:47   sanitation that's established earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11807">TS</a>]

03:16:49   it's like does this place have trash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11809">TS</a>]

03:16:50   compactors like in a lesser movie that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11810">TS</a>]

03:16:52   would be the punchline hours in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11812">TS</a>]

03:16:54   funnies making a reference because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11814">TS</a>]

03:16:55   once went down a garbage chute into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11815">TS</a>]

03:16:57   trash compactor and the the the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11817">TS</a>]

03:17:00   from thin is like either is just we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11820">TS</a>]

03:17:02   or you know what we do or like whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11822">TS</a>]

03:17:04   it is it's just it's just a confirmation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11824">TS</a>]

03:17:06   line it shouldn't be a subsequent punch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11826">TS</a>]

03:17:07   line on the page is just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11827">TS</a>]

03:17:09   confirmation oh we do but the way he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11829">TS</a>]

03:17:11   says it is he is acknowledging the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11831">TS</a>]

03:17:16   back reference that he knows that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11836">TS</a>]

03:17:17   have trash compactors because he was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11837">TS</a>]

03:17:19   trash guy all delivered in him just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11839">TS</a>]

03:17:21   saying we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11841">TS</a>]

03:17:23   yeah that's what it takes to elevate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11843">TS</a>]

03:17:25   dialogue that would otherwise kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11845">TS</a>]

03:17:26   lay there on the page has a few good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11846">TS</a>]

03:17:28   ones to wear his actual line is like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11848">TS</a>]

03:17:30   I had to redo a radio show go nowhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11850">TS</a>]

03:17:32   because I'm not an actor and he manages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11852">TS</a>]

03:17:34   to sell the most simple line in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11854">TS</a>]

03:17:37   that adds meaning to a meeting coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11857">TS</a>]

03:17:39   from maybe it's coming from the director [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11859">TS</a>]

03:17:41   maybe someones they're telling him what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11861">TS</a>]

03:17:43   he's supposed to feel about it but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11863">TS</a>]

03:17:46   they're able to elevate the script [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11866">TS</a>]

03:17:49   script is already pretty good I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11869">TS</a>]

03:17:50   like this script is pretty good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11870">TS</a>]

03:17:51   reading parts here and there is a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11871">TS</a>]

03:17:53   scenes that that don't quite work our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11873">TS</a>]

03:17:55   shirt founders you gotta explain 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11875">TS</a>]

03:17:57   years of of semi broken relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11877">TS</a>]

03:18:01   with with died in dialogue in one scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11881">TS</a>]

03:18:04   right now and people I've seen people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11884">TS</a>]

03:18:05   complain about the han and Leia dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11885">TS</a>]

03:18:07   it's like yeah I thought it was fine for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11887">TS</a>]

03:18:09   what it had to do which is a lot that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11889">TS</a>]

03:18:11   had to I mean they had to expose that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11891">TS</a>]

03:18:14   whole backstory in that dialogue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11894">TS</a>]

03:18:16   stuff yeah and again both actors being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11896">TS</a>]

03:18:18   older now like it's difficult to walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11898">TS</a>]

03:18:21   the line of how would people this age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11901">TS</a>]

03:18:23   I'm kind of glad they didn't have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11903">TS</a>]

03:18:24   do a big smoochy romantic kiss just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11904">TS</a>]

03:18:26   because I feel like people have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11906">TS</a>]

03:18:28   apart that far they're basically a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11908">TS</a>]

03:18:30   strange it's not it's not appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11910">TS</a>]

03:18:32   and the same thing with it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11912">TS</a>]

03:18:34   other leads like whatever you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11914">TS</a>]

03:18:36   crash Finn has on ray she's not sending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11916">TS</a>]

03:18:38   that back his ways God they didn't kiss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11918">TS</a>]

03:18:40   at any point this movie because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11920">TS</a>]

03:18:41   supposed to or because that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11921">TS</a>]

03:18:43   they're the male and female leads like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11923">TS</a>]

03:18:45   lots of pitfalls were avoided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11925">TS</a>]

03:18:48   yeah i agree but so your kids are going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11928">TS</a>]

03:18:51   to see it tomorrow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11931">TS</a>]

03:18:52   yeah my ball my daughter has been anti [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11932">TS</a>]

03:18:55   Star Wars lately because my son watches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11935">TS</a>]

03:18:58   Star Wars on the downstairs TV and kicks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11938">TS</a>]

03:19:00   are often it's like he's watching stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11940">TS</a>]

03:19:01   star but like I said she's been wearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11941">TS</a>]

03:19:02   the rapist jamas I don't think she knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11942">TS</a>]

03:19:04   that star wars or who that person is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11944">TS</a>]

03:19:07   asked her about it the other day like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11947">TS</a>]

03:19:08   was that on your pajamas she didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11948">TS</a>]

03:19:10   well but i like the idea like she's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11950">TS</a>]

03:19:14   very fidgety movie so half the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11954">TS</a>]

03:19:15   with her is like can you sit still for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11955">TS</a>]

03:19:17   the length of a movie but i hope you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11957">TS</a>]

03:19:20   will connect with it and the way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11960">TS</a>]

03:19:22   know like when I hope is that I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11962">TS</a>]

03:19:24   bringing her up in any media environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11964">TS</a>]

03:19:26   so far where there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11966">TS</a>]

03:19:27   extraordinary about this movie in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11967">TS</a>]

03:19:29   of representation like that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11969">TS</a>]

03:19:31   hope this will help from like having her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11971">TS</a>]

03:19:33   watch miyazaki movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11973">TS</a>]

03:19:34   over and over and over over again such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11974">TS</a>]

03:19:36   as far as she was concerned every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11976">TS</a>]

03:19:38   movie as a female lead who is competent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11978">TS</a>]

03:19:40   sure and the other ones are an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYKWnRI/11980">TS</a>]

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