The Incomparable

00:00:02 ◼   ► the incomparable number 326 November [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► welcome back everybody to the [TS]

00:00:12 ◼   ► uncomfortable i'm your host Jason snail [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► we're here for an edition of I guess you [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► could call this old movie club Steve [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► lesson here to actually say movie club [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► but it is it's moved from 1983 so it's [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► not super old and this came up because [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► the the gentleman who usually brings us [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► the old movies filmed Michaels was on [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► Twitter talking about how he thinks that [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► the right stuff from 1983 was an [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► underappreciated film is that right [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► field that I do that accurately that is [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► that is correct i it's it's not the best [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► film of the 1980s because that's a [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► decade that raging bull came out in [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► depending on how you want to start [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► counting you're nineteen eighties and [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► your Amadeus but I think right stuff is [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► is easily one of the if not top five top [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► 10 movies of the nineteen eighties and [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► you never hear about it you never really [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► hear people uh gasps and on about it and [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► I guess that changes tonight that's [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► that's right now we're gonna we're gonna [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► put it right by talking about this [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► classic based on the book by tom wolfe [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► about test pilots at the beginning of [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► the Space Age so in addition to mr. [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► phillip michael is joining us to have a [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► conversation about this film and Enoch [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► oh hello [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► I don't want to make everybody feel old [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► but i just did a little search and the [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► distance between today and the release [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► date of the right stuff is almost the [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► same as the distance between the right [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► stuff and it's a wonderful life so it is [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► how do i I would consider the movie they [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► don't want anybody who is not our age [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► it's an old movie damn or is also here [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► hi Dan hello I think I'm not the [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► youngest person on this panel which is [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► pretty good for me so I'll take that [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► yeah you are you're definitely not [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► perhaps the oldest person on the panel [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► but we love hey hey hey it's a it's it's [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► doctored ring [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► welcome back well hello I don't want [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► anything to put this podcast in a bad [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► light [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► I'm talking about keeping our pants [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► zipped and our wicks dry [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► yeah well that's good somebody had to [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► somebody had to have that is what story [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► but we'll get to it and yes the youngest [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► member of the podcast because he was a [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► born in the eighties after this movie [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► which makes it gets even hack my co-host [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► from the space pod cast liftoff [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► hi Steven hey yeah this movie came out [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► three years before I was born [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► so you know if you guys need to kick off [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► early and go to bed we can look carry on [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► dan I have discovered route old movie [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► club connected to send a personal [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► message to all the listeners if right [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► now you're sort of pounding the [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► dashboard of your car wonder why nobody [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► introduction said come on Jason let's [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► solve your problems in like this candle [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► I'm just surprised and disappointed as [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► all of you I've I thought that was being [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► the bank NamUs and saying i'm going to [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► i'm only the second person called I'm [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► sure that someone has an index card [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► they've been rehearsing that line so it [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► had to get it we got out of the way [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► we've cleared that bit we can move [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► forward so anyway I we're gonna talk [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► about the right stuff I i want to start [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► with just pointing out Glen Shepherd [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► just two of the names inextricably [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► connected to the American astronauts [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► depicted in the right stuff also quaid [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► harris and Henrickson because there's a [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► guy named Glenn who isn't playing John [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► plan and there's a guy named Shepherd [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► who's not playing alan shepard it's very [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► confusing i kept thinking you know it's [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► it's scott glenn he's not John Glenn [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► he's not he's Gordon Cooper it's totally [TS]

00:03:26 ◼   ► different [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► you also have ed harris not playing who [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► he plays a part of 1300 generation is to [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► guys like what what's what's happening [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► two guys in NASA one space for a lot of [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► characters you get played by multiple [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► people in in other films to like I [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► you're in other I was thinking about how [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► i had seen from the earth to the moon [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► and a lot of these characters obviously [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► exists there too but all played by [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► different actors who I have like linked [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► with those people now I think there may [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► even be a couple actors in common [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► between them playing different parts and [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► that's all so strange and so my wife and [TS]

00:03:58 ◼   ► I were watching this last night and I i [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► finished it today because it's three [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► hours long so we did some very long week [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► we really it's an epic it is an epic and [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► we we need to talk about that but using [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► you know the second half you know what I [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► really remember about that I don't [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► remember a whole lot i remember i [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► remember the Apollo one accident i'm [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► like that was in the front years to the [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► moon that's not in the right to tell [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► anybody even get to that it's like [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► mentioned as an aside at the end I kept [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► waiting for it and when they rescue Matt [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► Damon at the end of this is that's right [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► it is great as well but I I think work [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► for somebody who wants to do a supercut [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► is all space movies just add them all [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► together and that's one big long movie [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► set in space when Alan Shepard destroys [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► the asteroid with the nuclear weapon [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► savers and tawdry Aerosmith song that [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► really brings it home for me though it's [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► alan shepard and Sam Shepard they do it [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► together you see Sam Shepard is played [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► by someone else [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► oh my so one of the funny things so it [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► is an epic it's a three-hour long movie [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► and I think one of the you you find out [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► very quickly when you watch it or if [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► you're rewatch it the the pacing the [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► focus there are a lot of different [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► characters I i could argue that there [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► are two movies here and there just [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► juxtaposed against each other we spend [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► the first 25 minutes [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► this was the other thing my wife [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► remember before we started she was like [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► I just remember a whole lot of Chuck [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► Yeager was like yeah that's the first we [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► stopped when we when we left the chuck [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► yeager story for the first time it was [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► 25 minutes into the movie so when you [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► when you when you go in thinking oh this [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► is going to be about the astronauts like [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► no it's about the test pilots and [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► astronauts and we spend a lot of time [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► with Chuck Yeager and we keep going back [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► to chuck yeager and historians kind of [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► juxtaposed with the story of of the [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► original seven astronauts so I think [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► that's one of the interesting things [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► about it is it takes its time it spends [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► time with characters who you know you [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► could have gotten as down a half hour 45 [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► minutes easily by taking a chuck yeager [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► i'm not saying you should do that but [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► I'm saying oh you should absolutely not [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► i'm saying it to that that that to tell [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► the story in this epic fashion it that's [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► why it's a three-hour movie is because [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► you need to be able to spend 45 minutes [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► of it with one of the guys who's not [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► even one of the astronauts because the [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► story is that big and there's so many [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► characters in it well and s it is a few [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► of the astronauts basically get nothing [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► yeah you know what we sure all is an [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► extra energy movie Lance Henriksen I [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► know what anderson scott Carpenter [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► carpenter and yes and Scott if you read [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► the if you read the books there's a [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► a very large chunk of the book devoted [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► to Scott carpenters mission in the [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► Mercury program and then that is totally [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► cut out [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► yea it's going on because it's hard to [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► it's hard to do guard Gordon Cooper and [TS]

00:06:41 ◼   ► scott Carpenter and tell the story of [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► well they kind of either effed up or the [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► system did not put in a position where [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► they could possibly succeed you have to [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► put them either in extreme danger and [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► then they pull their way out of it [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► showing the steely-eyed determination or [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► you find out that the white foot and her [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► husband were really about to just break [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► everything pretty target of marriage [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► apart if not for the fact they wanted to [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► keep their their health insurance funded [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► by NASA just since you mentioned the the [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► chuck yeager part III think it's very [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► interesting because I think the best [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► thing about this movie is what it has to [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► say about myth-making and the theme that [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► the the movie goes back to UM and this [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► is very much the the organ that Philip [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► Kaufman the directory keeps grinding in [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► the movie is that they everyone was [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► saying no they said that the seven [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► greatest pilot ever and really there was [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► this other great pilot who didn't fit [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► the mold arm didn't have the the college [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► education or the the the stable family [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► life background and in this kind of a [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► wiseass who they they keep out of the [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► program in the movie and i i i i find it [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► really interesting the way that they may [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► use the press in the movie to portray [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► the astronauts one way when we the [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► audience see that something completely [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► different is going on [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► and yeah I i really think that the the [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► chuck yeager character is as much as you [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► can have an integral character in a in [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► an ensemble piece like this he is that [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► he is the main focus of the movie and I [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► think it's much the movies what makes [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► the movies so interesting and that it [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► might be the reason that of all the [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► performances in the movie i believe Sam [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► Shepard's was the only that only one [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► that was graced with an Oscar nomination [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► of that's an indicator of quality but [TS]

00:08:31 ◼   ► i'll tell absolutely right it's [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► interesting that you point out that [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► where we have this this movie about the [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► space program and we spend the first [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► half hour [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► i'm talking about the space program but [TS]

00:08:41 ◼   ► rather guys find jets and one of the [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► most terrible parts of California you [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► can actually do and I that's a very [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► deliberate choice up by the director and [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► it wasn't a popular one because William [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► Goldman I think wrote the first draft of [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► the of the right stuff screenplay and he [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► hated this movie and he hated working [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► with Philip Kaufman and and and and quit [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► the quit the movie outright so and one [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► of the reasons that he decided he didn't [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► like the fact that it it held up Chuck [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► Yeager is this this paragon while making [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► the other guys look like lucky steps you [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► just sort of stumbled into it [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► I don't know about that i have always [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► thought I don't necessarily disagree [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► agree with that criticism but it's it's [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► the criticism you made but anyhow I I'm [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► done talking up i was just gonna say [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► that I i like that i like the way that [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► you name a book in the movie The Right [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► Stuff it's obviously something that is [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► so vague but tries to explain something [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► that you understand so as soon as it's [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► put in front of you and I think that the [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► two most powerful parts of the movie to [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► come during that during the first half [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► hour when you're talking about these [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► people who are fighting really really [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► hard to get into this place where you're [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► doing this job where you will watch [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► people die and your wives will basically [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► always know what here's one here's one [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► of the siren means it doesn't mean that [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► some of that police officers going to [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► turn off a fire alarm at a store it [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► means that's one of your one of your for [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► either your husband or one of your [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► friends husbands has just died and this [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► is something that a job that very few [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► people are mentally capable of doing and [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► although the course it was a lot of [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► discussion between the difference [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► between Chuck Yeager someone who was [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► wasn't really known of course to history [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► before before Tom Wolfe featured in the [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► book obviously obviously he he was a [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► first break the sound barrier but he's [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► in that book of aviation records that [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► was the cultural figure you also have [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► these other astronauts were doing just [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► as much work to get into the space per [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► ticket into the space program to fly in [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► these absolutely [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► untested there was no book whatsoever [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► for any of these spacecraft [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► I mean we've been talking about that is [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► the reason why you need a test pilot is [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► because they are used to having there's [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► nobody who can tell you anything about [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► what how this thing handles this is the [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► first time we've set we've built and [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► flint and put one of these into flight [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► so we have no idea if we've built it [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► right or wrong so you have to be at as [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► the quote from i think was a big [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► Slayton's autobiography is like the [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► difference between a test pilot a [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► regular pile is that a test pilot gets [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► into a bad situation and says I got [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► third I got 30 so i'm going to crash in [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► 30 seconds i got to reject a test pilot [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► says I got 30 seconds i've been i can [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► still save this so it's all in all of [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► them in the end when they do that that [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► collective mutiny against NASA saying [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► that no no you're not going to try to [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► bully us into doing what you want [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► bye-bye pulling our flight assignments [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► you either you're gonna get you got so [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► you got all of your PR invested in these [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► us as seven heroes if you want to find [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► seven other heroes you're welcome to it [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► but we're sticking together and fighting [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► to run this that this thing the way that [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► we want to run it so it really again [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► they're the right stuff [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► what is it that makes you push past all [TS]

00:12:04 ◼   ► that BS to to focus on the other task of [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► getting killed at at an altitude of 60 [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► miles so the movie starts after a [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► montage of four by three grainy film [TS]

00:12:19 ◼   ► footage we end up with the first shot [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► and this goes to what what who these [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► people are what their job is what Andy [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► was saying be it is a shock wake up of a [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► woman who is basically going to be told [TS]

00:12:33 ◼   ► that her husband just died in a fiery [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► plane crash [TS]

00:12:36 ◼   ► that's where this is that's where this [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► movie starts and narrated by the band's [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► levon Helm you should point out okay [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► yeah he's the ease the realizes that [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► really just record yeah okay [TS]

00:12:50 ◼   ► they say there's a demon in the scatter [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► that's right him [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► about their past Mach 2 and then we see [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► a man on a horse in the desert very [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► Western accept this man is Chuck Yeager [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► just the horse have named it duh we can [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► ask Chuck Yeager he Twitter he's in that [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► he's in the desert and you were out in [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► as Phil said kind of a really unpleasant [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► part of California this is the future [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► Edwards Air Force Base you may know that [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► is where the space shuttle landed before [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► it started landing back and in florida [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► and there's not a lot out there was a [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► test pilot range there's a there's a bar [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► that that people go to and there are a [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► bunch of pictures up behind the bar and [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► this is one of the lessons we learned [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► very quickly what do you have to do to [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► get your picture up there [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► the answer is die if you died will put [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► your pad is that is the graveyard that [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► is the memorial to all of the Dead [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► pilots at the at the test facility so [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► that that's how we start this movie and [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► I and and I'm interested in what people [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► have to say about this whole whole part [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► of the movie I i wanted to know one [TS]

00:13:58 ◼   ► thing which is appreciated the direction [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► in this movie you know movie bars [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► oftentimes feel like I don't know fake [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► and on places where people have been [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► drinking a lot and this this movie bar [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► even in the daytime the people who are [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► in that bar it the ice they feel drunk [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► to me and I i have appreciated that it's [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► like they're drunk they're drinking and [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► there they feel that way as a man whose [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► home had a drink or two in a bar in [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► California's high desert accurate is it [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► feels it feels like the sort of bar that [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► in modern times would have no windows [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► and a lot of contractor trucks parked [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► outside a 2pm yeah it's a it's there [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► they're really drinking there so this is [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► this the Bleak landscape of the test [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► pilot it's not just that they're they're [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► Cowboys I mean I i think that that's an [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► intentional parallel here these are [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► these are special kinds of people who [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► are pushing the limits and have a [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► certain attitude about life that allows [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► them to be capable of flying these [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► untested aircraft and and putting their [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► lives in their own hand I like also that [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► we're drawing a distinction here between [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► some of the pilots obviously our [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► military pallets and some of them are [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► civilian pilots [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► toilets because in the opening we get [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► this one pilot who is you know where [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► they want him to go up and breaks and he [TS]

00:15:13 ◼   ► says he'll do it 450,000 diets and [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► William William Ross who I will always [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► think of as the dad on boy meets world [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► but um yeah also here to different [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► stripes too because you have people who [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► are sort of here [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► there you know here and trying to make [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► some money off it and then as they point [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► out when Jaeger says he'll do it [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► they're paying him like less than 300 [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► bucks monthly so yeah you're already [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► paying me write the air force is already [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► paying me so all right he just wants to [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► fly just right laughs yeah before we [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► leave the happy bottom riding club [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► there's an important character that [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► comes in early are at the funeral and [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► it's the man in black the Grim Reaper [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► the Angel of Death who shows up [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► repeatedly throughout the movie and you [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► know sings the song at the funeral and [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► always ends up after the funeral [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► back at the bar has a beer and then and [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► then leaves and i love that I love that [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► character throughout the movie well that [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► is the great royal dano and I had a note [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► in here about him being the specter of [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► death too so I because he's a busy hook [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► up with a bunch of the explosion the [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► rocket explosions to life [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► I that there's that there's a structure [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► to all this where there are so many [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► characters that they don't really have [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► names and they don't really have been if [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► there's never a line where they explain [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► this person is with the chaplains office [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► he is a captain his job is this and he [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► is he's more like almost like an [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► imaginary character and references like [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► a the the one that one member of the [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► press corps that's allowed to talk and [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► not be part of the chorus right fills [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► the role of all the press jeff goldblum [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► Harry and Harry Shearer the one of the [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► best comedy teams I and ending with [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► island known as the green for them [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► no no no no actually they don't they [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► don't forget they don't they don't even [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► have any back to look at the IMDB page [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► there heck they're actually making the [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► credits airless recruiter and recruiter [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► not even recruiter one or recruiters [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► because they're they're completely are [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► compressed together from like 18 [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► different people who had 40 different [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► roles in panda and putting this thing [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► together but you don't all you have to [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► do is simply present a really iconic [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► lastic new character and we know exactly [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► where they fit in [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► to the machinery of the stories for such [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► a brilliant way you got three hours with [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► thought sounds like a lot of time until [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► you realize that you've got 12 hours [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► worth of story you need to tell [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► effectively before you get to the cool [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► shots of rockets going off my favorite [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► thing about that Minister character the [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► train dragon mentioned is at one point [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► in the movie they've jumped ahead and [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► alan shepard's going up in the rocket [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► and he's there and Cape Canaveral and [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► what is this is he the only minister and [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► how to appear rocket launch well it's [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► also wrong because he's Air Force [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► Shepherd was Navy he doesn't belong [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► no but he shows up because they're the [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► angel of death yeah [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► also if it might if my job we're going [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► to come up and tell i'm sorry your [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► husband's dead i might not dress in all [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► black [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► I might consider a tie that's maybe even [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► like go out dark red or something you [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► know the thing that jumps out of me in [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► the these early bar scenes is sort of [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► how low key [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► all of it is so we have the slick you'd [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► like Dan said demands the money and [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► checks as well the efforts already pays [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► me like so they just assigned him this [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► job doesn't like an open bar like people [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► can hear him and you can imagine the [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► scene being set today right this would [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► be like an underground security [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► clearance bunker and said there's a bar [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► drinking beer saying yeah we're gonna go [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► break the sound barrier tomorrow like [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► the it's very informal and casual and [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► think that reinforces like the cowboy [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► picture the movie tries to paint right [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► over with the rules on the frontier [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► right there on the edge of is pushing [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► the exactly they keep saying so there is [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► definitely like a non undiscovered [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► country uncharted frontier there's and [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► Chuck Yeager such a cowboy that on the [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► ride home from the bar he is knocked he [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► like it's a tree and it and falls off [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► his horse and breaks his ribs his wife [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► there's a you know his wife comes racing [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► racing his client on horseback across [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► the desert oh my god do you want to be [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► Chuck Yeager you wanted to [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► yeah well I mean there and there's a [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► whole thing without with his wife in the [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► bar and they banter and then the then [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► there's a girl in the bar who tries to [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► chat with him and they point out that [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► lady that he's going after his wife and [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► and and we've done as part of their [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► elaborate foreplay yeah exactly right [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► but he breaks his ribs [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► re cracked his ribs and it's very bad so [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► know what's going to do he tries to hide [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► it because he really really wants the [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► opportunity to to do that to be the guy [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► to break the sound barrier and and so [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► you know he ends up to pull the guy [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► aside and they cut just the guy just [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► takes the broom from a janitor and saws [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► the end off of it and puts it in his [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► jacket and hands it to ya it does [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► measure it first he does with his [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► forearm [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► yeah but it's pretty funny that he's [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► just like I'm just gonna lay this down [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► and just there it is i got there i got [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► reaction shot of the janitor is [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► priceless know it's in fact the [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► bereavement it's all okay i guess with [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► this little short broom now [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► yeah that's that's pretty funny but and [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► then charged so do you know what happens [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► check your goes up there and you know [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► the the we've been set up with all these [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► failures that that there is that demon [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► that's out there at the sound barrier [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► but we hear the first sonic boom which [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► everybody down on the ground or first [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► sonic boom that wasn't like you know [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► crack of the whip or something from an [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► aircraft and everybody looks like well [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► he's dead on the ground but he's not [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► he's flying around and you know that [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► that's our 25 minutes with with Chuck [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► Yeager he breaks the sound barrier and [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► of course but i think there might be [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► something wrong with this year mark [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► meters start going crazy up its bob [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► fitts above the three right now yeah you [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► don't know that if you break the sound [TS]

00:20:51 ◼   ► barrier you have bought the sound very [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► same really well that and the best part [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► of that scene because that that this [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► again is is a sign of the the [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► scriptwriting where they don't do really [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► a lot of explaining they just started [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► drop you in they have the the publicity [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► man is is going to call the papers and [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► and and the air force man says houghton [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► no can't do that because the Russians my [TS]

00:21:17 ◼   ► period the Russians there are allies [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► well yeah and this is the explanation [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► for why nobody knows Chuck Yeager exist [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► on its very compact it's very economical [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► and that's the reason why he's not know [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► he's not a hero because there was no [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► publicity that it's it's a weird thing [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► to say about a movie that's three hours [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► but there is some really compact story [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► to exactly on in this movie [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► six years later and we see Gordon Cooper [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► who is a who [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► is it was heading to heading to edwards [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► air force base which is now I think [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► changed its name by the by this time [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► later played by a fresh out of the womb [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► dennis quaid very so young dennis quaid [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► so young [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► if you if you ever want to just pay the [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► majesty of young dennis quaid watch this [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► movie and Breaking Away back-to-back [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► because it is just up dennis quaid [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► you're young and beautiful than a Greek [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► god what happened to you what happens to [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► all of us fill the margins and I'm yes I [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► mean if you're better off than Randy so [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► we what we get some more there's a smoke [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► on the horizon there's another funeral [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► there's a missing man formation flyover [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► a picture is put on the wall at the bar [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► but these these new pilots have have [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► arrived and it's not just it's not just [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► Gordo Cooper it's gus grissom to and [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► there's a major Barre faux pas [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► where where Gordo says I tell you how [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► does a guy get up on that wall say maybe [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► maybe one day you'll be putting my [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► picture on there and everybody's simply [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► turns and says oh you stupid and a word [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► that we can't use maybe we will be [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► putting your p.m. i I've no doubt that [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► that's likely that [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► yeah you are exactly that much of a rube [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► it's amazing [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► Dennis quite is fantastic and this this [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► is the ultimate dennis quaid yeah well [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► that that sort of taps into his likable [TS]

00:23:13 ◼   ► jerk ability [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► yeah where I am just I am fantastic and [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► i know it and I'm gonna let you know [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► you're not that fantastic i know but i'm [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► pretty good and imagine Gus Grissom's [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► you can't have a face that that's that's [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► that line and whether an experienced [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► saying those kind of cocky lines but you [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► can have Dennis you have does quit [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► saying it and you know that okay well [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► hopefully he will learn better than this [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► we will find this charming someone who [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► is old but its own you don't get old and [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► say lines like that and get one year [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► older than that so that's actually [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► really good selection of of casting so [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► this is you know Yeager is the King here [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► but there are these new people that are [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► coming in [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► and we know we know if you know anything [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► about history that these are the these [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► are going to be the the future [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► astronauts Veronica Cartwright who [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► graced us with her presence in alien [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► which we covered not too long ago is is [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► one of the wives here she's Betty [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► Grissom yeah i should mention barbara [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► hershey who is a Chuck Yeager's wife my [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► note there is literally just Barbara [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► Hershey wow thats it thats this is your [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► this is your barbara hershey golden era [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► yeah listen hoo hoo hoosiers she had a [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► Marion Ravenwood quality about her [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► absolutely ah so yes the demon lives out [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► further past Mach 2 and chuck is going [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► to chase the demon and then the world [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► changes we cut to a room in Washington i [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► guess and a door opens and a kid runs in [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► and says it's called Sputnik and they [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► say you know sit out [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► I i enjoyed this bit I enjoyed it yep [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► that that is a good bit um can we talk [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► about the the recruit additional let's [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► get together let's talk about it now [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► we're because this is our recruiting how [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► do we find who will be an astronaut [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► section so this is this is going to be [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► me as the lonely man in the room I like [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► Harry Shearer and jeff goldblum in many [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► things I don't really like them in this [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► movie I really think totally it's it's [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► just it's all over the yard and four for [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► a movie that has a great deal of humor [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► hear it he that they're a little bit out [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► of place and out of time to me and part [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► of the reason might be if that a few [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► years ago wired a oral history of the [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► right stuff which is still online and [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► reading it will actually take you longer [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► than watching the movie and apparently [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► if thats to be believed a Goldblum and [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► sheer had no lines and if the direction [TS]

00:25:49 ◼   ► was just and say some stuff hopefully [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► it'll be funny and I and and some of it [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► is and some of it I I feel sort of [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► breaks the the mood of the picture just [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► that's my feeling about those two [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► it's a bit bra brought that's my [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► criticism but let's recall that there [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► job isn't to carry any of the drama of [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► this movie their job is they got two [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► important jobs that are really really [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► tough jobs to do one there their land [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► pipe here they are basically here to [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► deliver a whole bunch of backfilled [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► information that the audience was gonna [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► need as we go through the movie and i [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► also need to serve as some of the [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► connective tissue through a section of [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► the movie where there go the story's [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► going all over the place and if you [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► don't have if we don't have we don't [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► recognize these two guys who are going [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► from hotel room to place to to an [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► aircraft carrier [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► we're kind of lost in a driftwood their [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► souls just sort of following these two [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► guys around and so to make them anything [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► more than a bunch of stuffed shirts that [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► are there to here read this card make [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► sure you say that we're at NSF air force [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► base now and that this person had that [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► this person has just set a speed record [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► you have to level it with some comedy [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► and they contribute her so well it's [TS]

00:27:01 ◼   ► such a simple ways just just the I [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► imagine these two guys just come up with [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► the idea like as they're waiting for to [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► be told ok the cameras are so we're [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► about to do it take Harry shares like [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► quick switch coats with me we get out [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► i'll be i'll be putting on her come [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► because i got my code and it's just that [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► and how many times have I seen it at the [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► last time I saw was just like years ago [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► but it's always one of the machines i [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► always think about the idea and the [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► other 1i have to have to say that every [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► time I think that if they're going [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► they're good they're showing films of [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► different people who they think might be [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► a sort of people who want to go after [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► and Harry shares have now trying to [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► think of a some sort of a stunt driver [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► I don't know I'm sorry as a demolition [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► derby people and acrobats shit okay [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► they're saying they're saying they said [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► that the line and the line he says also [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► he already he already owns his own the [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► own element I I don't know if X Factor [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► are already oh listen I thought that's [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► one of those jokes I thought about every [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► month for the my entire life until I die [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► and honestly one of the worst portrayals [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► of dwight eisenhower on-screen if i may [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► just say outside of Tom Selleck plane [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► and a very bad Eisenhower who apparently [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► if IMDb trivia is to be believed was [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► dubbed by kevin Pollak you [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► his first things first miracle i think [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► no no I want test pilot I went test [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► pilots I don't sound like that at all [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► says Eisenhower imagine if he hadn't had [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► that inside to be a very different movie [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► yeah it was the demolition derby people [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► who have the right stuff [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► imagine I would watch that movie or the [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► surface or the surfers and demolition of [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► the acrobats that's that your bicycle [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► across the tightrope i want i want the [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► the part process where they bring in a [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► invite demolition derby people acrobat [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► surfers and test pilots and they all mix [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► together and then from that they picked [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► they have to be and have to be wearing [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► their stage costumes while they're [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► trying out like that are milling about [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► any idea what I want some banditos I [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► want some people are dressed up as the [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► as world war one aces and then they pick [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► seven astronauts and it's all the test [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► pilots sorry surfers it's not gonna it's [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► it's not gonna happen [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► odds are stacked against you we we get [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► you know Harry Shearer and jeff goldblum [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► I think they're fine they're dead [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► they're scenes with that there in that i [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► really like where I think the tone is [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► right but i sorta sighs get your point [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► filled with some sometimes I feel like [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► it's coming out of a entirely different [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► movie i like the scene we're throwing up [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► on the ship I think that's really that's [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► really fun scene and yeah the code the [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► code thing is funny but but there you go [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► getting across that there are this what [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► I like about them and some of these [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► other scenes is how clueless the [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► government is in these early days they [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► know they want to beat the Russians but [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► you know all the things we take for [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► granted about how space program works [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► and how you pick astronauts are that it [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► gets across that they have no idea like [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► this is they they literally they have no [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► idea what they're doing they're still [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► trying to figure this out [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► they have all these crazy things like [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► like using acrobats as as astronauts [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► because they're good at going upside [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► down or something like that [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► hey that's what you're in gold blue [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► martini is they're the kind of [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► incompetent and they represent the whole [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► government bureaucracy you know Phil's [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► right there is a there's a total [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► difference when they're on i like it and [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► i also think it's okay [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► probably because this movie is three and [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► a quarter hours long and more shorter [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► movie it would really be disturbing but [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► in the overall scheme of things that [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► really you remember them speaking [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► indistinctly and they don't take up [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► surprisingly they don't really take up [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► that much of the movie I mean once the [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► astronauts get recruited they're out [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► there is also it's also kinda cool when [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► you compare how the we see everything [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► that's going on at NASA and we course [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► know that Barnett whatever the weather [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► whether the agency was at that point [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► that of course they they have no idea [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► what's gonna happen to a human body when [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► they try to put in space they have no [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► idea what's good what's possible they [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► have no idea what skills are going to be [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► useful and so they are like chickens [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► with their heads been good let's cut off [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► but meanwhile all they all the [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► government knows about the Russians is [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► that they have puts they've put a [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► satellite into space we didn't know that [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► that was that was going on and we will [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► we only get reports that there is this [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► mysterious black leather black just [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► cheska transcoded figure walking in the [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► distance with a good heat waves above [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► him call the chief designer no one knows [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► his name they only know he's bald and [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► really Russian looking and that and let [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► me maybe they're ready they're getting [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► ready to do a space platforms gonna bomb [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► us we're gonna try to seize control of [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► space and they might be so far ahead of [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► us we can't possibly we can't possibly [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► keep up and so on that basis it's really [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► cool that we show that these are we've [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► got people who essentially are like well [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► what if we were to just like make a [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► something like a giant tetherball and [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► put men in it and keep swinging and [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► swinging it and then like sort of cut [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► the cord and it will fly up in the air [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► and maybe that's how we'll get people [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► into space that's how that's how big [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► they want us to think that this is the [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► challenge was at this point in its in [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► the time we got the rocket scientist got [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► the German rocket scientists are Germans [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► are way better than they're Germans but [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► uh huh but the you know the people and [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► Emma capsule all that so then the next [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► section of the movie is all about the [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► test testing of the testing of the [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► astronaut candidate so this is you get [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► the you know you don't want our best [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► pilots but there's the whole thing about [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► like they wanted military and they [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► wanted college-educated they're like all [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► these different things that which [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► basically rules out Yeager we see Gus [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► Grissom we see they they watch John [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► Glenn on TV playing like a name that [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► tune [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► right they got uh and and so we we we [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► meet uh we meet all of them here [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► Simpson not Sam Shepard got Alan Shepard [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► see i did it i do it [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► scotland not John when and he's playing [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► alan shepard they do a lot of like [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► physical test there's the there they're [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► sizing each other up [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► they have to blow they have to keep a [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► ping-pong ball and a to blowing bubbles [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► which is a fun scene where they're kind [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► of you know falling out in them and then [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► is it it's dennis quaid like who gets to [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► he just wants to get break the record so [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► like he waits a second after he breaks [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► the record he's like yeah he looks down [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► the table and and and two other people [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► including every letter to the app sorry [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► that going carpenters like patiently oh [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► I just checking and checking their [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► watches ya make me wet nurse merch and [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► her mole who I think that separate [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► credit card like watching everything [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► just passionately i just i enjoy the and [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► also of course the the inter-service [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► rivalry between the Marines and the Air [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► Force the Navy and we should probably [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► discuss briefly alan shepard's [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► impressions [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► josé Jimenez well so he's doing it's [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► bill Dana on the on the outsole didn't [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► show doing his Jose Jimenez character [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► which we can question that but then they [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► put a link they hang a lantern on it [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► because they have the Latino orderly or [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► whatever [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► whoo yeah does the disapproving of the [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► plane x pro football great Anthony Music [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► Hall of Famer Anthony Munoz not his [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► actual voice yes voice was dubbed in by [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► somebody who with a very very rapid [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► strange deep voice that has nothing to [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► do with Anthony Munoz is actual voice [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► yeah so they do hang a lantern on that [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► that he that that I mean because it's [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► like again the Jose Jimenez stuff is [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► kinda questionable and then and then [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► Shepherd kind of pushes it even further [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► but they do that all of the all of the [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► Hispanic people again are in the [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► elevator with him while they're growing [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► up in the elevator with tubes coming out [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► of their butts in another scene that is [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► fascinating and and they you know they [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► asked like your impressions very good [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► but what you say is very bad [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► the ad so he gets the message there and [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► then he he also does some Gordon Cooper [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► does some sweet talking to the nurse who [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► immediately demands to see his wife [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► yes that's which shows the pressure that [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► their underwriting like he's like oh [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► geez they want to show that i have a [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► stable home life if I'm gonna get this [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► job so he has to say we need to pretend [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► that we have a stable home light up and [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► she you know he she comes out and says I [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► you know I told i told them that I that [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► we were great i lied [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► yeah there's a lot of real truth a lot [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► of things that they were talking about [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► Abby obliquely and yet their marriage [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► was kind of over with at that point and [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► they were staying together only because [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► at that point nobody knew what would [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► happen to your career if you are we were [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► in an ascendant in that in that role as [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► pilot and you get a divorce and so [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► that's why there's a lot of we can fool [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► around but we can't fool around with [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► such a point that our wives will [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► actually divorce us it's it's it was a [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► tough tough road [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► yeah because they don't know if they [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► there everybody wants these jobs so if [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► you're if you're getting a divorce to [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► you just or or have been divorced you [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► get thrown out they don't know what the [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► issue is going to be so he's like let's [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► just not rock the boat and we'll just do [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► it will just keep doing this I don't [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► know how you guys feel but in looking at [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► the runtime and looking at you know my [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► notes being broken down by sort of seen [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► the whole testing segment of this movie [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► feels really long and I guess they're [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► trying to get the point across it [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► we don't know what's gonna happen like [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► we have to put you through all sorts of [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► stress because your eyeballs make it [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► sucks when your sockets but we're gonna [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► shot your arms or a while until it's [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► until it's completely numb why I don't [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► know what we'll see what that does [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► you're gonna love it [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► we're gonna put on a shaking chair with [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► two fried eggs on your eyes yeah yeah [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► well because that you might run into [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► that situation and its base [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► anything could happen in space some of [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► it is also the building not only the [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► rivalry but the camaraderie right well [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► yeah I'm important later on very much [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► like that they have to band together [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► yeah that is that's and something that [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► keeps coming back to me is that they are [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► competitors and they are also a unit and [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► that's fascinating to me but i think [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► that i think they're there may be [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► somebody with no military background I [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► feel like that maybe as a millet [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► everything to write is like you are [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► going to snipe with your your your your [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► compatriots and you may want to end up [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► doing better than them but in the end [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► you're all on the same side and you're [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► all gonna take care of each other and we [TS]

00:37:12 ◼   ► see in several instances where they turn [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► on a dime to join up and exert their own [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► authority when they can we see that back [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► in California with jager and [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► what's-his-name the that's got filled to [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► its Mach 2 right there's there's rivalry [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► you know he's he's upset that he didn't [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► get there first but then there's a [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► congratulatory commented kind of at the [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► same time right easy like eyeballs wife [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► to that was a little weird [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► he's going up you're going up tomorrow [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► aren't you yeah I'm going up tomorrow so [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► now they get introduced and we don't we [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► get this other aspect of it which is the [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► public relations part of being an [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► astronaut and there's a there's a line [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► later in the movie where dennis quaid [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► basically says that they're gonna have [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► it right at the end he's like they're [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► gonna build me a house and I get paid by [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► life magazine i get all this money and i [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► haven't even been in space yet and we [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► noticed that did you [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► ok but this is it so so the amazing [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► thing about this press conference that [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► they have is that everybody's doing the [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► like mumbly one word answers and then [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► John Glenn basically like takes a [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► microphone and stands up and begins to [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► hold court and everybody else is looking [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► like oh jeez and but it also kind of [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► gets them all going and they all start [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► doing you know saying more things about [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► it and this leads to so there's that and [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► then is the meeting with my life [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► magazine where Virgil Grissom wants to [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► be called gusts and it's like that's no [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► good with your middle name is Ivan okay [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► Gus the astronaut all right we're gonna [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► do that that the the press conference [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► thing also i think shed light on you [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► know obviously Glenn goes on to become [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► you have a career in politics and it's [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► pretty clear why between the you know p [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► astronaut he's incredibly personable and [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► well-spoken here and so you can kind of [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► see like he's got that angle played out [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► i also really my favorite line from the [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► entire press conference [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► Tina Sheperd saying i attend church [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► regularly and the force green that [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► Scott plan does scotty with respect [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► 100-meter regularly i will after that to [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► dan that was so so transparently fake it [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► was fantastic [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► yeah it kinda is who juggling as though [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► they've literally around again [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► throughout the testing part of the [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► reason is the reason for the testing was [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► to show everybody hurts with these two [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► people are and of course it's good for [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► that that that the breathing tests it [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► comes down between scart scott Carpenter [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► and John Glenn and then finally [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► carpenter like no good is out of air [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► like a half a second before John Glenn [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► well I'll that boy John you really gave [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► me a run for my money there [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► well i was i was like Don bye-bye use [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► God and of course that the toughened [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► more veteran guys are like my God look [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► it's Archie and Jughead yeah that's [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► right so you know that those are the [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► people who would not even not even like [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► I'm not playing an angle I I just feel [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► like I'm the Yankee duelist I've ever [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► felt by golly here here representing [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► America to the space race all the press [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► conference just has my favorite obvious [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► joke of the movie which the Hallelujah [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► Chorus playing at the end of it is [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► they're all doing the lifting hands to [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► the sky and whatnot when you talk about [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► how John Glenn's portrayed I think it [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► actually pivots into a really i thought [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► this was a really well-done moment which [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► is we [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► ok he's the guy who was on TV playing [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► name that tune he's the guy who holds [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► court in the conference in a press [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► conference he's Archie and Jughead right [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► hehe is an outsider to some of these [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► other guys who are wilder and then when [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► they have when they all are meeting and [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► all of that and John Glenn's wife like [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► doesn't talk to them and the to the [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► other wives and and there this is a [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► moment where it like totally plays into [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► like who does she think she is very [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► standoffish John Glenn his wife are [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► obviously you know data they think [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► they're better than the rest of them [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► they don't want to be seen with him you [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► can see where that story is going and [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► then you cut to them and in the hotel [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► room afterward and she has a terrible [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► stutter and she can't shoot enemies end [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► is shy and she wasn't being standoffish [TS]

00:41:00 ◼   ► at all it's a completely different story [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► than the one that you're led to think is [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► going on I just I thought that was [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► really a really nice double back on the [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► story there i was amused to find out [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► that actress is zoe and emily deschanel [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► his mother [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► Wow [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► all yes and the wife of the [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► cinematographer yeah-yeah-yeah-yeah-yeah [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► national yeah the other thing about that [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► scene is that it it shows and we see [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► this later on as well that John Glenn is [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► not playing the super good guy he really [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► is he really in the sky [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► yeah when he's unguarded when he's just [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► with his wife he is just like he is when [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► he's with the other guys yeah and just [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► like he was in the press conference [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► hey Stephen and I talked about space a [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► lot and on our podcast and I was [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► thinking of SpaceX in the next section [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► of scenes because there's a really nice [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► montage of lots of rockets exploding [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► spent literally uh hey [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► and it's this is a reminder hey you guys [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► are supposed to be writing this and it's [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► just I mean it looks like it'sit's [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► archival footage which they were able to [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► do of every rocket just blowing up and [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► occasionally a you know in the [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► scientists pressing the buttons to [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► launch things and then watching and then [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► one the one first off there's the ones [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► that just light and then just go down [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► which are so sad and then the ones that [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► could do is the one that goes off and [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► start veering off course they have to [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► blow it up and then there's the one that [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► gets up there and they're like yeah I [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► got oh now it is exploded in the air [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► it's just an amusing set of like for her [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► or for the one where the only thing that [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► happens is like nothing happens then [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► they cut to the very very top and just [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► like the present the periscope is bad [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► news dad what Dad a lot of trouble with [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► those early rockets and you know they [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► moved from suborbital gangway had [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► suborbital to actual orbital flights and [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► that they increase the size of the [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► rocket and those were even more [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► failure-prone that's what they said to [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► John Glenn right is what is like where [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► you know those Rockets they're not we [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► have good luck buddy [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► I like that they use how they use it in [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► the movie [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► I mean they're continue to drive home [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► that these guys do crazy dangerous [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► things for a living but it's it's also [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► an opportunity for them to to band [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► together and and say you know there's [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► there's that scene on a little while [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► where they confront some of the [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► engineers and you can kind of see some [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► of that brewing is are saying they're [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► watching the rockets explode they sort [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► of steroid disbelief and that you can [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► see frustration growing in the group and [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► I think that's a nice [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► it's a nice picture i just really like [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► the one guy who has to press the launch [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► button everything everytime jittery [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► German man's access it yeah every day [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► that's all done by computers like no [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► human touches anything but then it's [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► like the guy with the guys sneezes and [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► then hit like a second later something [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► something bad happened [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► no one knows yeah that's how they [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► screwed up all those earlier that you [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► have allergies get out and press the [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► yellow but not that's the explosion five [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► years but lunch not long i read an [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► article in there in space that looking [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► to deepen dorado that was really [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► interesting it's a positive that one of [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► the reasons why the Russians had such a [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► headstart was because their atomic [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► weapons were really really bad and ours [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► were really really good [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► so as a result because ours were really [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► really good [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► they were small and like and reliable [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► which meant that they developed really [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► were really small not terribly powerful [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► rockets in order to deliver them rest [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► the Russians there's were big huge heavy [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► and clumsy so they needed big heavy [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► rockets which were already able to [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► launch an actual human into space that's [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► how big paper and because they were so [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► that such unreliable weapons they knew [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► that if we want one of these to take up [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► new york we're going to have to fire [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► like 80 of them so we're gonna have like [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► maybe learn how to manufacture [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► manufacturer manufacturer mins as many [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► copies as possible and so it was that [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► was why they were able to do Sputnik [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► first that's why they're able to do the [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► parents flight first because they were [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► already building it turns out that if [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► you build a rocket for a crappy nuclear [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► warhead your building 14 really good man [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► space program the there's a bunch of [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► thumb that we get some beach scenes [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► which is it's just fun that I haven't [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► been to Kennedy Space Center a couple of [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► times and I stayed i'm on Cocoa Beach at [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► one point which Harris talks about a [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► little bit it's just to give you a [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► little flavor of especially in this like [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► the sixties in in florida and those [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► sleepy beach towns that suddenly were in [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► the center of the space thing is pretty [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► cool and there's this set piece that we [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► go to a couple of times there's a bar [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► with a with a swimming-pool window [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► behind the bar and and that's where we [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► go next where you know Alan Shepards [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► justly just loves it Sullivan is [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► laughing and laughing but that the point [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► of the scene is largely the groupie [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► is there or the other referred to as the [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► cookies at one point the woman who says [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► four down three to go [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► suggesting she slept with four of the [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► seven mercury astronauts which leads [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► into John Glenn kind of kind of [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► lecturing everybody else all of the [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► other ones about the plane around that's [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► going on and uh and and the response is [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► strange because so he's basically saying [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► look we we are this is PR and if it gets [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► around that we're awful tomcatting guys [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► then it's going to reflect badly on the [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► program and on the on the country the [TS]

00:46:17 ◼   ► response is is interesting rhetorically [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► because he kind of doesn't address that [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► issue at all he just got pivots and as [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► it is it Shepherd just pivots into a [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► completely other issue which is the fact [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► that that the their job is so simple [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► that a monkey could do it yet including [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► the line and get ready for the bleeping [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► out part because I'll bleep is out the [TS]

00:46:40 ◼   ► the classic line that made me laugh so [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► hard which is the issue hearing the [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► issue here is monkey and yes well I [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► can't argue with that logic the issue [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► here is monkey [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► of course it is of course it is which is [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► not wrong because this is a famous [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► true-to-life complained that the [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► astronauts had that although they were [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► trained test pilots who were brought in [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► to do this the job did not require any [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► of their skill at all it was a capsule [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► essentially made for a monkey [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► it's automatic and that leads to the the [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► real unification after this kind of ugly [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► scene with John plan which is the [TS]

00:47:18 ◼   ► astronaut rebellion where they basically [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► tell the designers you're going to give [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► us a window and you're going to give us [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► an escape hatch and you're going to give [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► us some controls because we are pilots [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► not monkeys for chimps chimps are [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► monkeys but forgive them they're just [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► pilots the IC contempt with which the [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► engineers just address it is not kitsch [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► still there is nobody will call it a [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► spacecraft not a capsule the spacecraft [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► spacecraft cas haha before that [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► confrontation and Jason I'm surprised [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► that you did not [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► this up given that this is an eighties [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► movie there's a montage [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► oh yeah and it's the montage of the [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► astronauts going through their clicking [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► buttons and flipping things around is [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► there going I am centrifugal flipping up [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► and down and then of course the the [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► parallel montage of the monkeys doing [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► exactly this yes that's true that's true [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► very very well done baby the soundtrack [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► by the way the score here won the [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► Academy Award and it is very eighties it [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► is and it's all over the place in the [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► writers there there's a bunch of stuff [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► up top that's very very synthesizer [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► heavy as it goes on I felt like it got a [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► little more orchestral and then later on [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► I had this in my notes when I think when [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► goes up they are using Gustav Holst's [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► the planets [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► yeah and so like it kind of jumps around [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► but yeah they're definitely when the [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► acre scenes in the beginning almost [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► sound like Top Gun like that that's the [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► level of since we've got we're one step [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► from the danger zone there's an [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► interesting thing about eighties movies [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► because a couple weeks back i was [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► watching chariots of fire which for my [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► money [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► another another under-rated eighties [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► movie but that is again likely be [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► jealous [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► yeah it is it is 70 20-something years [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► been jealous honest casio keyboard going [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► for booty [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► yep it's strangely works and it works in [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► this movie I mentioned Hoosiers earlier [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► that is a movie where the the [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► synthesized keyboard score does not work [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► but uh get back to the content [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► yeah don't count yeah and he was not the [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► original choice i believe it [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► this is in the wire dumb oral history or [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► it might be in IMDb trivia i don't know [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► i have two sources of information on [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► Papa the original a guy who was [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► commissioned to do the soundtrack left [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► the movie and a half after talking to [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► Philip Kaufman this is a theme with many [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► of Philip Kaufman movies but Philip [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► Kaufman said I want the music to sound [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► like you're in a desert and you step in [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► a cactus only the cactus grows around us [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► you step in it [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► the guy said yeah we're done here and [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► now that's out bill conti came and and [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► oh man I love that soundtrack so much we [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► have some training montages [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► and other interesting things throughout [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► the trip isn't anything eighties movie [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► you need a montage and the whole thing [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► here is the issue is monkey are they men [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► or are they just monkeys ride the highly [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► trained monkeys riding in an automated [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► space capsule but again this is the fam [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► this is one of those good moments where [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► they turn there's another one later [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► where they basically it they were [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► desperate to get in to the program and [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► they would do anything it like including [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► drive to San Diego and get their [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► estranged wife and have them come back [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► and pretend to be together to get in the [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► program but now with all that PR their [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► stars and they feel like if they band [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► together they can make changes and it's [TS]

00:50:46 ◼   ► fun it's fun to see that happen where [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► the balance of power has now shifted to [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► the mercury seven and that happened that [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► actually really happened [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► the chimp is shot into space Jim came [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► first American ship in space ham we see [TS]

00:51:01 ◼   ► but this is another great scene with the [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► Greek chorus of the press we're all you [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► see are these arms and legs and cameras [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► flailing around one leg in one big dog [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► like but that's right basically probably [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► 500 and you have the one spokesperson we [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► get slides but you never see them except [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► for their this one big knot of this [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► grasping grasping hands that the guys [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► you play the press corps were a San [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► Francisco improv troupe on and their [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► other big credit that a lot of them are [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► in his Howard the Duck and that is got [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► that is the steepest decline in movies [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► I don't know that that is like a [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► straight line down that is not even hate [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► you can even measure the slope there [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► just ripped straight down [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► mhm cheap shot into space meanwhile [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► Chuck Yeager's have it maybe have some [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► regrets about not being part of all the [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► excitement we got Chuck Yeager cut away [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► but we have to move on because they [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► gotta man up there it's gerrin we know [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► sit down [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► yeah more news from from Russia and so [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► they and they try to spin it which is [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► funny and like oh well you know be [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► forthright gracious you know all those [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► things and then the one guy the [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► government guys like well who's gonna be [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► the first free man in space huh [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► it's like not doesn't really work at [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► Glenn says I'm tired [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► and forthright gracious we need to get [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► we need to get going and i laughed a [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► little bit because basically the [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► response here is oh okay yeah let's do [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► it like okay where was a pep talk by the [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► astronauts all that was required to move [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► ahead then goes like that yeah [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► hey Bella that then John Glenn could now [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► there's no that's not the mercury seven [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► like really really tight as a group [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► John Glenn was a joke yeah but but we [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► can't say the word the blanking yes [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► absolutely yes [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► and so it's cut to all right we're gonna [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► do it and and an astronaut is going to [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► be they've been keeping a close to the [TS]

00:52:57 ◼   ► best but who's it gonna be [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► and it's a talent shepherd and we get [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► another one of those nice little moments [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► where even though they these astronauts [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► are are pitted against each other they [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► also have some respect for each other [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► because Shepherds god there's a sign [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► that joke sign that Glenn leaves in the [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► in in the in the capsule and he says [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► it's not funny but I you know but I [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► appreciate it and Glenn says to him by a [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► con Dios jose as pair loading them in [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► the capsule which is a it's pretty great [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► and then Alan Shepard blasted space no [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► actually and then Alan Shepard sits in [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► the capsule for hours baking somebody at [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► back begging a Mission Control to let [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► him pee that's what happens next glamour [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► in the space burger glamour slice [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► cutting to another montage looks like [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► coffee being poured out that my god that [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► is totally insulated trillion bits of [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► anything right is it brilliant eerie i [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► think it kills the wedding a little [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► tight on the same movie as the to [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► recruiters yai chai the hoses down of [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► the launchpad the thing that I really [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► like here is the cut away to where we're [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► talking to all the wives are together [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► and that therefore media frenzy outside [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► the house and all of that and and alan [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► shepard's wife says he must have four [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► cups of coffee before you went to work [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► that morning that killed me that was [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► great line that was really great we I i [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► neglected to mention early on the the [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► conversation with the wives sitting [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► around the line that I like which again [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► probably has to be believed to sometimes [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► men can be such [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► yeah well I didn't even mention since [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► we're bleeping things I really love that [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► over an open channel the first thing [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► that Alan Shepard says in the in the [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► capsule is dear lord please don't let me [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► pick up what was that what was that I [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► mean I everything is a-ok and I didn't [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► quite hear you there [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► their fruit repeat that everything is [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► a-okay [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► yeah they finally let him pee in this [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► space suit though so that's good and he [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► and he is the most it makes the most [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► relieved sounds you will ever hear [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► unfortunate racist jerk as well [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► yeah well yes well this is true again [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► consistent with his behavior up to this [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► point actually true voice I've always [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► wanted to know if in the control room [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► they really did have like a light bulb [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► studded diagram of the astronaut in his [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► chair so they could trace where the [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► urine was going up and throw it up and [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► down his legs and his back if so I want [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► a copy of that schematic so i can have [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► that thing I want to make a version for [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► myself I was a little disappointed when [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► he after he comes on board the ship [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► after they go pull plug him out of the [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► capsule when they draw the outlines on [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► his feet i really want him to walk away [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► and leave like soggy but Prince to drip [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► all over tonight I I was definitely [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► expecting that everybody just to back [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► off after opening the yeah well yeah [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► yeah [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► the smell so this is one of those [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► moments like earlier where was like hey [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► let's let's let's launch yeah let's do [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► it where it's almost the enthusiasm of [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► the astronauts that cause things to [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► happen in the space program because it [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► like let's light this candle [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► yes let's do it okay all ten nine eight [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► seven with Ricky immediately count down [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► from ten press the button I'm a lot [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► calmer than you people [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► why do you solve your little problem [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► like this kinda boom [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► so that is right all right like the [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► candidate so they do and he he launches [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► and and in reentry there's a lot of [TS]

00:56:26 ◼   ► shaking and I had that moment of like Oh [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► see you've been through the high Jesus [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► shaking because you were you made all [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► those ridiculous training tests so [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► that's what that's all good and he gets [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► to he gets to listen to a band play and [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► go to the White House and cut meat cut [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► immediately from like [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► you look it's possible he's about to die [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► because no American has ever done this [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► before and then to book [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► ok as soon as you survive return to [TS]

00:56:51 ◼   ► Earth you are now unto a god and [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► marching and printer tape parade go to [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► the White House to be as it's going to [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► be commemorated your spliced into [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► archival footage and instead the German [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► sing some songs that i like that cut [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► away that meanwhile German rocket [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► scientists are very happy to sing a song [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► yeah you know you when you will go into [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► space the everything that you brought [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► space with you has value which is why [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► Gus Grissom has a whole merchandising [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► plan to bring a bunch of little objects [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► into space and then sell them upon his [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► return to Earth but gus grissom's [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► mission doesn't go so well [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► no screws the pooch does in the movie [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► heat in the movie does i think i think [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► the historical record would suggest [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► designer here at controversy [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► yeah but the book was very hard on him [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► as well right now the movie was [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► consistent with the book and I think [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► time I think you know knowledge has sort [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► of shifted since the late seventies when [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► the book was written at the time nobody [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► inside NASA seriously believe that he [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► had full pull the hatch himself [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► yeah nobody a matter of fact that the [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► very very next flight Wally schirra did [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► something that I'm not sure if it was [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► even part of the flight plan but he [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► intended after the after everything was [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► secure everything was safe after [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► splashdown he intentionally manually a [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► blue the hatch just to show that ok here [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► are the bruises here is that if the [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► damage that will be on your arm if you [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► actually push that button and so given [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► that given the complexity of this thing [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► were relays for tripping just on their [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► own because of balls of solder that were [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► just rattling around making contact out [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► that it should be on the fifth anybody's [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► getting some of their history from this [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► nobody inside NASA seriously believe [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► that it was anything other than [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► technical malfunction and when they [TS]

00:58:32 ◼   ► finally pulled the pull the the capsule [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► Liberty Bell 7 from the bottom of the [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► ocean now there's a theory that maybe [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► the housing around the hatch is what [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► failed not not explosive bolts so just [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► dissed this way yourself of any idea [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► that he might have actually screw [TS]

00:58:50 ◼   ► you can also see it in his career which [TS]