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286: No One in a Powdered Wig is Scrappy

 

00:00:04   the entire article number 286 februari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4">TS</a>]

00:00:13   welcome back everybody to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/13">TS</a>]

00:00:15   uncomfortable i'm your host Jason L we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/15">TS</a>]

00:00:17   are going to talk about something a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/17">TS</a>]

00:00:18   little different for us this is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/18">TS</a>]

00:00:20   realm of musical theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22   I know I know who would have thought but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/22">TS</a>]

00:00:25   it's at least it's science fiction music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/25">TS</a>]

00:00:26   nope it's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/26">TS</a>]

00:00:28   and it's also a musical theater that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30   none of us have actually seen so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32   essentially we're talking about an album [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34   basically which is the two hours and 23 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/34">TS</a>]

00:00:37   minutes and 46 tracks of the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/37">TS</a>]

00:00:40   broadway cast recording of a musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/40">TS</a>]

00:00:42   called Hamilton by lin-manuel Miranda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/42">TS</a>]

00:00:44   which is taking many parts of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/44">TS</a>]

00:00:47   culture by storm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   it is a wild success it is hard to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/49">TS</a>]

00:00:51   ticket i believe our own Lex Friedman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/51">TS</a>]

00:00:54   for his birthday in november i think got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/54">TS</a>]

00:00:58   a ticket for September of the following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/58">TS</a>]

00:01:01   year to see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/61">TS</a>]

00:01:02   yeah yeah it's hard it's a it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/62">TS</a>]

00:01:05   tough ticket and the reason is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/65">TS</a>]

00:01:06   it is spectacularly good and fun to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/66">TS</a>]

00:01:11   listen to and once you start you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13   stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/73">TS</a>]

00:01:14   and it's much better than you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16   expect that a musical that is largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/76">TS</a>]

00:01:18   inspired by a biography of america's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/78">TS</a>]

00:01:21   first secretary of the Treasury might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23   talking about this with me are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/83">TS</a>]

00:01:27   following wonderful guests chipset earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/87">TS</a>]

00:01:30   hello it was my understanding that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/90">TS</a>]

00:01:33   was actually a historical doctor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/93">TS</a>]

00:01:34   episode it could be just wait for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/94">TS</a>]

00:01:37   um monte actually you can be my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   right-hand man if Y is my favorite line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/99">TS</a>]

00:01:45   says device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/105">TS</a>]

00:01:48   ok David lower is here straight from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/108">TS</a>]

00:01:51   theater in our dad later Jason yeah mhm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/111">TS</a>]

00:01:55   and serenity caldwell who's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   Hamilton a pretty pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59   consistently for the last two months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/119">TS</a>]

00:02:00   I'm over 19 and my mind is older alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/120">TS</a>]

00:02:04   well that works and story checks out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06   yeah seems seems to be rice yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/126">TS</a>]

00:02:10   Hamilton any opening statements i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/130">TS</a>]

00:02:13   in Siracusa here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/133">TS</a>]

00:02:14   oh my god it's gonna be a three hour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/134">TS</a>]

00:02:17   podcast and I have nobody to help us two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19   and a half hours go ahead I'll catch up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21   this should not be this thing should not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/141">TS</a>]

00:02:25   exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27   this is impossible this is a simpsons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/147">TS</a>]

00:02:29   gag this is wrought me dr. Zaius stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/149">TS</a>]

00:02:32   and the piano anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/152">TS</a>]

00:02:35   of course you can well I didn't before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/155">TS</a>]

00:02:37   not to say stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/157">TS</a>]

00:02:41   dr. Zaius doctor is dr. Zaius doctors is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/161">TS</a>]

00:02:44   his previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/164">TS</a>]

00:02:50   I love legitimate v8 I don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/170">TS</a>]

00:02:54   how this wonderful thing can exist and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/174">TS</a>]

00:02:57   more to the point can be so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59   there are few places in this musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   where I do get of a little bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03   simpsons parody music vibe there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05   few lines that i think are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07   clunkers where it's it's so on-the-nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09   I'm like yeah okay i would laugh at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/189">TS</a>]

00:03:12   added if it were not surrounded by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/192">TS</a>]

00:03:14   brilliance but it is it is ninety-nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16   percent brilliance and one percent kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/196">TS</a>]

00:03:19   of cringe that just as Hamilton it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/199">TS</a>]

00:03:21   rap musical oh yes right yeah really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/201">TS</a>]

00:03:25   as somebody who is a huge musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   theater fanatic but not a big rap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/207">TS</a>]

00:03:31   hip-hop fan like i enjoy it casually but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/211">TS</a>]

00:03:34   I'm not the person who's like I know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/214">TS</a>]

00:03:37   of these artists and i can i can rap for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/217">TS</a>]

00:03:40   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/220">TS</a>]

00:03:41   I'm not a I'm not a female white rapper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43   surprised this show completely bowled me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/223">TS</a>]

00:03:47   over in such a weird way where I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/227">TS</a>]

00:03:50   hearing little bits of it i had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52   hearing rumors and talk and like little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/232">TS</a>]

00:03:55   like Oh Hamilton Hamilton Hamilton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   Hamilton and just kept on popping up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/237">TS</a>]

00:04:00   why do you keep saying that will do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/240">TS</a>]

00:04:02   answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/242">TS</a>]

00:04:03   well and i was saying before before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06   started you know I actually walked past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/246">TS</a>]

00:04:08   Hamilton started off broadway at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/248">TS</a>]

00:04:09   public theater and I was in New York out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/249">TS</a>]

00:04:12   the second or third night that it began [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/252">TS</a>]

00:04:14   running at the public and I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/254">TS</a>]

00:04:18   walking past the public and seeing these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20   big basically neon yellow of posters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/260">TS</a>]

00:04:24   that are like who lives who dies who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/264">TS</a>]

00:04:25   tells your story and then an outline of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/265">TS</a>]

00:04:28   hamilton and with Hamilton written in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30   big block letters at the bottom and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32   remember looking at that being like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34   Hamilton maybe I don't maybe this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/274">TS</a>]

00:04:37   like some artists that i don't know i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/277">TS</a>]

00:04:40   completely missing this this is weird i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/280">TS</a>]

00:04:42   saw people queuing I'm like well I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44   find out what it is now I'm just gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   keep on walking and that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/286">TS</a>]

00:04:47   experience with Hamilton for six months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/287">TS</a>]

00:04:50   where I was just like I kept on seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52   little bits to it alright see someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54   mentioned oh I'm you know I tough an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   friend of mine from high school is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   the cast of hamilton and I was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00   that's really cool maybe i'll go get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02   get some time and then I then there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/302">TS</a>]

00:05:05   the Ben Brantley is new york times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/305">TS</a>]

00:05:06   review was like mortgage your children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/306">TS</a>]

00:05:09   to see their food orders your house and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/309">TS</a>]

00:05:11   and that's not so Morgan wait for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/311">TS</a>]

00:05:13   children yea it is was totally mortgage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   my children to see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17   yeah but that's a bit but so I was saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/317">TS</a>]

00:05:18   that and I'm like what is the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   because i actually don't know and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   started reading I'm like oh that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   interesting a musical about Alexander [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/324">TS</a>]

00:05:25   Hamilton and my mother came to visit me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/325">TS</a>]

00:05:29   in early September right after the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31   had basically come to Broadway and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33   like oh well maybe we'll maybe we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/333">TS</a>]

00:05:36   stand by for this musical and we'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/336">TS</a>]

00:05:39   tickets for we got tickets for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41   gentleman's guide to love and murder and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/341">TS</a>]

00:05:44   I'm like well maybe we'll also since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/344">TS</a>]

00:05:45   matinee maybe we'll stand by for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47   evening show and we walked by just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/347">TS</a>]

00:05:50   see if they were doing a ham for ham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52   like do we walk by the richard rodgers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55   there are 700 people there and my just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/355">TS</a>]

00:05:59   drops because you know i'm an old school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/359">TS</a>]

00:06:02   musical theatre which is to say well not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   old school like old-school for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/364">TS</a>]

00:06:05   meaning i slept overnight to get tickets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/365">TS</a>]

00:06:08   for rent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/368">TS</a>]

00:06:08   like I remember the early rent lotteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/368">TS</a>]

00:06:11   before Broadway had lotteries when run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/371">TS</a>]

00:06:14   was doing his touring cast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/374">TS</a>]

00:06:15   everything else and and those lotteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/375">TS</a>]

00:06:18   were you know they were verb like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   inspiring and exciting but it was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/380">TS</a>]

00:06:23   hundred and fifty people and to see 700 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   people crowding as close as possible to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/385">TS</a>]

00:06:28   this little theatre and then later to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/388">TS</a>]

00:06:32   see all the him for hams as soon as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/392">TS</a>]

00:06:35   got in the car after going to see a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37   gentleman's guide to love and murder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/397">TS</a>]

00:06:38   which was a fabulous show i immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/398">TS</a>]

00:06:40   bought the Hamilton soundtrack and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   like all right I'm just gonna listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   it because someone says it's sung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/404">TS</a>]

00:06:45   through so it's kind of like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47   you can enjoy it like you might leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/407">TS</a>]

00:06:48   mrs. so I'm just gonna do it and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/408">TS</a>]

00:06:51   started the Hamilton soundtrack at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53   start of the new york drive and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/413">TS</a>]

00:06:56   finished it at 1i am at the at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58   of my driveway literally i finished two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00   lives who dies who tells your story as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/420">TS</a>]

00:07:03   was pulling up into into our driveway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06   and opportunity to solve every minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/426">TS</a>]

00:07:09   yeah exactly because i was just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11   what the first what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/431">TS</a>]

00:07:14   this what is this entire that has made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16   me feel so emotions so many emotions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/436">TS</a>]

00:07:20   I'm so confused on why why why is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/440">TS</a>]

00:07:23   suddenly become all i can think of about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   for the next you know week and that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/445">TS</a>]

00:07:29   that was this that was the impetus for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   me like getting obsessed about Hamilton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/451">TS</a>]

00:07:32   is I just listen to this thing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/452">TS</a>]

00:07:35   immediately want to listen to it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   and then every time someone brought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39   up for the next three four and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41   anytime someone talks about Hamilton I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43   like I need to listen to the song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/463">TS</a>]

00:07:45   soundtrack again which is crazy when a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/465">TS</a>]

00:07:48   friend of mine asked me on social media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50   you know why why are people into this i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/470">TS</a>]

00:07:53   don't understand this and i said it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55   fantastic it's only yeah it's andy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   not cause fault that I'm into this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   because he tweeted about the the sale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/479">TS</a>]

00:08:02   that Google Music add that was they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04   selling it for two dollars to stinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06   dollars yeah we're afraid that he used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08   so I get in I go nuts and this friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10   asked me why is everybody talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   Hamilton it's just that good here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/492">TS</a>]

00:08:15   show and she's response wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/495">TS</a>]

00:08:17   people are getting this crazy over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/497">TS</a>]

00:08:20   cast album people haven't been able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22   see it yet it's just the castle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24   yes you're just that good some very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/504">TS</a>]

00:08:27   cast album Hamilton the quality of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/507">TS</a>]

00:08:31   Hamilton cast our has been really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/511">TS</a>]

00:08:32   inconvenient for me because a few months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/512">TS</a>]

00:08:35   ago i said i am out of touch with what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/515">TS</a>]

00:08:38   going on Broadway because i live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   Seattle and broadway lives in New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   like a jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/522">TS</a>]

00:08:43   apologies to anybody who lives in New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45   York is not a jerk so I started a blog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47   Broadway away dot com on the grounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/527">TS</a>]

00:08:50   that i live away from broadway and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   said what I'm going to do is I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   to catch up on broadway and we learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   everything about Broadway I'm gonna know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/536">TS</a>]

00:08:57   what's happening and there's all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   cast albums on spotify which is great it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/539">TS</a>]

00:09:02   was gonna say alright what have I missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/542">TS</a>]

00:09:03   I don't really know what happens in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/543">TS</a>]

00:09:06   passions i dunno what happens in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   passions but that's that sort of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10   so I'm just gonna listen to a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/550">TS</a>]

00:09:11   bunch of cast albums read books and know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13   what's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/553">TS</a>]

00:09:14   the problem is i just listened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/554">TS</a>]

00:09:17   Hamilton over and over and over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   again and I have to stop messaging know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/559">TS</a>]

00:09:23   you need to give Sunset Boulevard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   another truck is a song of Sunset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/565">TS</a>]

00:09:28   Boulevard and you know right back into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/568">TS</a>]

00:09:29   Hamilton over and over and over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   again it's tough it's tough at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/571">TS</a>]

00:09:34   fascination to I mean we we we've said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/574">TS</a>]

00:09:37   it is about a guy that a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/577">TS</a>]

00:09:39   have never even heard of when we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/579">TS</a>]

00:09:41   mentioned Hamilton on Twitter are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43   regards to this show and some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/583">TS</a>]

00:09:44   stuff that we've been working on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/584">TS</a>]

00:09:45   I've heard from a bunch of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47   outside of the united states who have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49   idea not only what the show is but who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/589">TS</a>]

00:09:51   this person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53   Americans would probably know hamilton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   from him being on the ten-dollar bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57   and from that got milk ad probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/597">TS</a>]

00:10:02   who shot Alexander Hamilton in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04   famous duel board and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/604">TS</a>]

00:10:09   lin-manuel Miranda while on vacation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11   with his honeymoon you might have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13   trying since anyone he he read the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/613">TS</a>]

00:10:16   Alexander Hamilton by ron chernow which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/616">TS</a>]

00:10:19   is a a long but good book about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/619">TS</a>]

00:10:23   biography of Alexander Hamilton they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/623">TS</a>]

00:10:24   have now put a Hamilton logo on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26   because you know marketing like putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/626">TS</a>]

00:10:29   tom cruise on the cover of of the firm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/629">TS</a>]

00:10:32   War of the Worlds sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   ok now major of broadway cast recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/634">TS</a>]

00:10:37   and the point of Miranda was he wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/637">TS</a>]

00:10:40   to tell the story of this a lesser-known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/640">TS</a>]

00:10:42   character from the American Revolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/642">TS</a>]

00:10:44   and also i think really appreciated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/644">TS</a>]

00:10:47   the source of Hamilton which is that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/647">TS</a>]

00:10:51   was an immigrant famously as the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/651">TS</a>]

00:10:54   starts you know he is his father left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56   his mother died he ended up at a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/656">TS</a>]

00:11:00   young age sea first I've seen awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/660">TS</a>]

00:11:01   conditions and squalor in the Caribbean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/661">TS</a>]

00:11:04   and then eventually proving his worth as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/664">TS</a>]

00:11:07   a as a brilliant young worker and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   pulled their money and sent him to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   an education on the mainland and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/671">TS</a>]

00:11:13   that's how that's how he starts and in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   very short amount of time because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   in the right place at the right time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/677">TS</a>]

00:11:18   with his incredible gifts he becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/678">TS</a>]

00:11:21   key figure in the American Revolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/681">TS</a>]

00:11:22   and the aftermath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/682">TS</a>]

00:11:24   it's a great story and I think met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26   Miranda's thought was I can't believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/686">TS</a>]

00:11:28   nobody's really told this story so so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/688">TS</a>]

00:11:31   took it upon himself to to do it and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/691">TS</a>]

00:11:34   does it in a whole bunch of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/694">TS</a>]

00:11:35   musical styles it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/695">TS</a>]

00:11:36   kind of unfair to say that this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38   hip-hop musical it's a lot of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/698">TS</a>]

00:11:39   styles including a lot of hip-hop you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/699">TS</a>]

00:11:42   know that but there's there's other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/702">TS</a>]

00:11:43   styles too i think you you don't give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   him enough credit he's he's playing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   thought with all the parts are absent a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   Swedish british pop and classic musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/709">TS</a>]

00:11:52   theater style and even you know touches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/712">TS</a>]

00:11:55   of gilbert and sullivan so much so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/715">TS</a>]

00:11:58   its yeah I have so many friends who work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/718">TS</a>]

00:12:01   in New York theater and and even at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04   public theater that this has been on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/724">TS</a>]

00:12:05   unlike the edges of my radar for like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/725">TS</a>]

00:12:08   two or three gears now and so when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/728">TS</a>]

00:12:11   first started the the workshop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13   performances and the first run at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/733">TS</a>]

00:12:16   public theater before Broadway back when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/736">TS</a>]

00:12:19   they didn't they weren't I mean they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/739">TS</a>]

00:12:20   were hoping to go to Broadway but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   you know there was no concrete plan at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/742">TS</a>]

00:12:25   that point and even at that point the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27   the people I knew who worked there the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   people who went to see it said oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31   this is the next thing and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/751">TS</a>]

00:12:35   and by the time I had a chance to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   there was no way in hell I was gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/757">TS</a>]

00:12:40   a ticket for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/760">TS</a>]

00:12:41   even with all these friends because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/761">TS</a>]

00:12:42   demand was so great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   Hamilton gets in the news now pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/764">TS</a>]

00:12:46   much every two weeks or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/766">TS</a>]

00:12:49   it's great was on a leash yeah exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/769">TS</a>]

00:12:52   it's been on the all the late night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/772">TS</a>]

00:12:53   shows lin-manuel Miranda has gotten to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/773">TS</a>]

00:12:56   show off how ridiculously good he is at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/776">TS</a>]

00:12:58   freestyle rapping you don't pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00   every show Chris Christopher Jackson was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/780">TS</a>]

00:13:04   on The Today Show like three days ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   just talking about his uh his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/786">TS</a>]

00:13:09   experiences I don't know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   something it's it's a confluence of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/791">TS</a>]

00:13:14   factors right it's that the music is I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/794">TS</a>]

00:13:17   amazing blend of so many different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/797">TS</a>]

00:13:20   styles and types of of musical theater & [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/800">TS</a>]

00:13:23   hip-hop of rap rock you know of all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/803">TS</a>]

00:13:27   basically a hundred years of music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/807">TS</a>]

00:13:30   smushed into this beautiful thing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   all the talk about how it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/812">TS</a>]

00:13:34   revolutionary show and I think in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36   ways it is if it's also very much in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/816">TS</a>]

00:13:39   traditional musical theater I mean rap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/819">TS</a>]

00:13:41   has been on Broadway for decades Stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/821">TS</a>]

00:13:44   Sondheim head wrapping into the woods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/824">TS</a>]

00:13:46   and I mean Gilbert and Sullivan was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/826">TS</a>]

00:13:49   prototype wrap on in musical theater if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/829">TS</a>]

00:13:52   you think about it yeah i am the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/832">TS</a>]

00:13:53   model of a modern major-general is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   totally rap it's just wrap done very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/835">TS</a>]

00:13:58   fast and very much you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   monosyllabic to a tune rather than just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/840">TS</a>]

00:14:01   monosyllabic freeform like lin-manuel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/841">TS</a>]

00:14:04   Miranda has had worked with some time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   and you can tell from him from ham how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/846">TS</a>]

00:14:09   big a musical theater nerd this guy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11   what i think is really special about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/851">TS</a>]

00:14:14   Hamilton aside from the music and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/854">TS</a>]

00:14:17   orchestration by the way if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   want a new way to listen to Hamilton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/859">TS</a>]

00:14:20   listen with an ear guided towards the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/860">TS</a>]

00:14:23   orchestrations because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/863">TS</a>]

00:14:24   orchestrations are brilliant and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   wonderful kala like they're callbacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/866">TS</a>]

00:14:29   and callbacks when callbacks and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31   smart things and banjos and weird weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/871">TS</a>]

00:14:34   a little bits on a synthesizer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/874">TS</a>]

00:14:37   banjos yes banjos but besides the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/877">TS</a>]

00:14:42   which is wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/882">TS</a>]

00:14:43   besides the fact that lemon wall miranda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/883">TS</a>]

00:14:46   is a very very talented composer and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/886">TS</a>]

00:14:50   actor I the entire cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/890">TS</a>]

00:14:54   there's such an energy from the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56   from the people who are promoting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/896">TS</a>]

00:14:57   which are really the on that you know on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/897">TS</a>]

00:15:00   the line cast members in some ways it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   feels very high school theater in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/902">TS</a>]

00:15:04   strain it's the most high school theater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/904">TS</a>]

00:15:06   show on Broadway there is a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/906">TS</a>]

00:15:09   take everybody so delighted to be part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/909">TS</a>]

00:15:12   of it like these these actors are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/912">TS</a>]

00:15:13   getting paid for it but their happiness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15   that's one of the things that's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   fascinating to me about it that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   now as we're speaking this weekend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/919">TS</a>]

00:15:22   there's the new Broadway con it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24   they're trying to do a comic con for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   Broadway and the first thing then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/926">TS</a>]

00:15:29   everyone is talking about Hamilton and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   and someone online brought up you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   the great thing about Hamilton is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/933">TS</a>]

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00:15:38   immediately went it's not colorblind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41   that was intentional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/941">TS</a>]

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00:15:45   beauty of the ham for him shows is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47   it is showing that it's not just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/947">TS</a>]

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00:16:13   Casper calm / smell my last name and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/973">TS</a>]

00:16:16   using code smell at checkout we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/976">TS</a>]

00:16:18   spend a third of our life sleeping i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/978">TS</a>]

00:16:20   feel like this last week I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/980">TS</a>]

00:16:21   spending a little bit less than a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23   of my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/983">TS</a>]

00:16:24   you think I need to get some more sleep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/984">TS</a>]

00:16:25   but I've been staying up late I had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   stuff to do you know when I lay down on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   my Casper mattress which I have I get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/989">TS</a>]

00:16:32   very nice night's sleep and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/992">TS</a>]

00:16:35   because Casper is unlike most other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37   mattresses it's got two amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/997">TS</a>]

00:16:38   technologies that are brought together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   latex foam memory foam latex foam gives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:43   you a really nice feel on top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:44   memory foam has got a lot of support and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:47   in the end it is the most comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   mattress that i have ever slept on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:52   i'm not kidding and they are not paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54   you say that part that is actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56   truth there is a risk-free trial and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:59   return policy so if you're afraid of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:00   buying a mattress sight unseen not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:02   knowing about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:03   putting out a lot of money and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   getting it being disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:06   don't worry about it they delivered to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   you you can try 400 days so it's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:11   three months sleeping on it and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:12   you're not happy they will pick it back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   up take it away and give you your money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:15   back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:16   the story you might lay down for five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:17   minutes and it's not gonna tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19   anything about how comfortable the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:20   mattresses with Casper you can sleep on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22   it literally they'll let you sleep on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:25   for months five hundred dollars for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:28   twin up to 9 50 for a king if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:31   compare that to the mattress industry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:32   prices that's a pretty great price point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:35   and of course you're going to get fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37   dollars toward any purchase by going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   Casper calm / smell and using code smell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:42   terms and conditions apply thank you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:45   much to Casper for sponsoring the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:47   incomparable well there are a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49   other reasons that I think that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:52   that this is struck such a court in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:53   addition to what y'all have said up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:56   lin-manuel Miranda makes a big deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:58   about how the whole point of the casting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:01   and the music choices and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:02   that is to just utterly remove the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:05   distance between us in 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:08   and the time of Hamilton 1776 and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:12   that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:13   it's using its it's doing an incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15   job of translating history into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:18   something that we can just this really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:21   enjoy there's some it's not quite call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:24   and response but there's a level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:25   audience participation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   I understand in the theater during this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29   show they had to add extra bars the to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:34   the to the song on what to win or your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:38   world turned upside down when lafayette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:42   and Hamilton say immigrants we get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:44   job done and give each other a high-five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   add more bars because the audience is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   too busy laughing nobody will hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   next the next bit so i think that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:54   accessibility is really important to why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56   this thing's taken off and also you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:59   talk about viral use of social media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:02   everything from lin-manuel Miranda at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:05   the White House on youtube to his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:08   constant tweets and the and the ham for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:11   him phenomenon all this other stuff they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:14   are doing everything right to just sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:18   of i rly get into your head to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:21   that i worry about a backlash someday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23   that it just gets so big that people get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:26   just sick and tired of it and maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:29   doesn't have a long shelf life is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31   might because of just saturation well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:34   is it is the most pre-sold show in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   Broadway so it's going to run for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   while at least it's sold out through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   october like to state the obvious if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   look at the guys who were actually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:45   know the actual Washington the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:46   Madison the actual Jefferson the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48   hamilton from where we are now in 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:53   they all look pretty much identical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:54   they're all white guys and powdered wigs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:58   and buckling shoes and you can tell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:01   between them and the guys in England the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03   hated upper-class who's keeping them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   down so casting people that look and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:09   talk more like America does i think is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:13   really good way of letting you identify [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15   with the scrappy underdog because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:19   saw the actual Hamilton saying I'm young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   scrappy and hung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:22   re you go no one in a powdered wig is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:25   scrappy yeah well and it also breaks you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:29   out of that assumption of you know oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   well as Thomas Jefferson or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:32   like you look at 1776 everybody looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:35   very stereotypically like the picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   books and you know and the music is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39   formal it was kind of dated even when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:42   was new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:43   you know and william davis has a British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45   accent still and and this you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:49   its vibrant its alive it jolts you out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:53   of that sort of um nothing against Ken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:56   Burns but it would that sort of Ken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58   Burns look at history right where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   not still photographs and it's not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02   preconceived notions and now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04   actually listen to Thomas Jefferson this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06   was not a thomas jefferson i knew now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:09   listen to it it's not that I've avoided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:11   reading history but you know you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:14   think of Thomas Jefferson as being an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:16   unsympathetic character or being wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:19   sometimes right easy spencey animal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   jefferson and more of the geography of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:24   the American Revolution and so right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26   everybody's great and they'll get along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:27   and it's all I mean that the line about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:29   the it's very nice in the in the rap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:32   battle was a real nice declaration the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:36   president running or would you like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:39   join us a stinging nettle to reply but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:41   the heavens you're doing monticello it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:44   yet there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46   um embedded in that because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:49   talking not only about Sally Hemings but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:53   it's talking about his love of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:56   marijuana which is a fact about Thomas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:59   Jefferson he smoked him all the time so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:02   some really nice bits that the thrown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:05   into the two humanizing yeah you've also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07   got these characters are pitted against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:08   each other you need to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:09   differences it's important to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:10   differences Hamilton story is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   his differences with everybody around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:15   yeah i like the way lin-manuel Miranda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:18   although his is really making history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:21   come alive he's also not afraid to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:24   shamelessly cut corners it will improve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26   the narrative because um yeah his most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:29   important goal is to tell the story that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:31   works so for instance you have Hamilton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:34   blasting Jefferson for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:35   a slaver and then turning to his best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:38   friend George Washington yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:41   yep of you will be familiar to me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:44   you know the order in which the sisters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46   met Hamilton it was not at all real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:49   how about my father has no son and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   sisters had no sons is not accurate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:54   the fact is that they are at the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56   in the play when Hamilton you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58   is one of the other notable things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   Hamilton is that he was the first kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:01   of american politician to be bitten by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:04   sex scandal and that's detailed in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:07   in this play but he the way it works in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:11   the narrative is at that point his wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:12   basically walked away from him and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:16   a very modern take on that relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18   but in fact during that whole period [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:21   where they are seen as being basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23   it's implied that their part in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   musical they were still having kids so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:28   you know that's not particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30   accurate either but it's all in service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32   of the of the big story here and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:35   criticism of of missing some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   details sort of mrs. the big picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   one of the nice things about it too is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:40   and we sort of touched on it the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:43   time we talked about it is the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   you know this is all a flashback that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:48   bird starts out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50   introducing us to and so I went back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:53   listened to it with that in mind and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:56   so it is there is a concentration not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58   just on who lives who dies who tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:00   your story but specifically on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:03   unreliable narrators getting details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:06   wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:07   Eliza taking herself out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09   narrative from hibernating all her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:10   letters which they be no that's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:13   made-up we don't know what she did we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:16   don't know why those letters don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:17   survive but that is a gorgeous moment in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:20   the show and then i have seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:22   staging for that and it is amazing so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:26   it kind of it makes it okay to have cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:30   corners it sort of gives itself a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:32   license to do that it's the intelligence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34   officers I energy what i know and i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:37   but but it just sort of baked in it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   not it's not just oh they did it let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   just say some of the people i put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43   this way some of the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:44   criticize the fact that characters who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46   aren't white or playing white characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:47   also criticized the musical because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   it's not entirely accurate because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   they're looking for things to complain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:52   about in this in this story because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:55   know the fact that this is a political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57   this this story is political it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:59   political in many ways not just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   the politics of the past but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:02   politics of the present some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:03   don't really like that there are a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05   of people have made a lot of money and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   careers out of talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   intentions of the founding fathers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   Miranda like cherno at wants to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:15   people to know a founding father who had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17   some different ideas and that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:18   complexity there and you can't just talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   about founders intent like certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:23   members of our Supreme Court do and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:26   it can be simplified quite a bit from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:28   the reality of it so that that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:29   part of the argument that's going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:30   here i think that lovely line that an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:32   ensemble member tosses off when aaron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:35   burr is campaigning for president and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   says I i could I feel like I could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39   a beer with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:40   yeah what I appreciate is that it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:43   like miranda is first priority is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   putting out a really entertaining show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   with accurate history in it and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:50   that's the correct order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   yeah my great and it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54   enough i mean i was not dying to read or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:58   unsure knows book and and I picked it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:01   in the bookstore and with this is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:02   heavy book it is it's got tiny prints so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:06   many pages and i can say from experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   more than once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:09   it hurts when it falls on your nose when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:12   you fall asleep reading is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   reflection on the book it's really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   but it's heavy and and yet it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:19   interesting enough that i wanted to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   the rest of the details and I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23   know what was that excited him about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25   so much I mean he says by the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   second chapter he was already figuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   out how to make it a musical you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:32   how did how did that happen so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   why I picked it up and it is a good book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:37   yeah it is it's a lots of interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:40   details and the best part of it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:41   you're not just hearing a story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   history when you read that book but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:44   also a story about you get the sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:47   that it's a story that hasn't been told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:48   before that that cherno is in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:52   a character in that book because at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   several points he points out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:55   there's information that is essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57   not been collected and collated and made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1617">TS</a>]

00:27:00   part of the overall narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   until him essentially which is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:05   interesting yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:06   Hamilton's initial thoughts were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   there was some sort of like the his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:11   contemporaries who wanted to throw him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   down even after he died and then there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15   were his family members who wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17   build this other narrative about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:18   then they were all the these documents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   including things from the Caribbean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   nobody even nobody even found this for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:25   ya and ensure no kind of put it together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:26   and says look this guy's way more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28   interesting than anyone is giving him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:29   credit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:30   well no one I think honestly no one no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32   one ever looked I mean you get this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   line in the opening song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:39   his his enemies destroyed his rep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:41   America forgot him and it's true and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:44   think Alexander Hamilton we think money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46   and dollars brown and father well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:48   exactly what I don't think money we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:49   think you on because it's the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:52   you know I saw the big short recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   which was a just a fantastic fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   book and a fantastic movie but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:59   basically say flat out and that feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:00   like yeah this stuff sounds really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:03   boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:04   are you ready to go to sleep yet ok no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   here's a model in a bubble bath to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   distract you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:09   it's the same thing it's like Alexander [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:10   Hamilton he deals with money he set up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:12   you know banks and financial systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:15   beyond okay why is that interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17   let's let's talk about atoms because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19   know Adams would really interest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:22   adams was at least a president which we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24   have here if you weren't a president and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   you're not Ben Franklin who's the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   fascinating guy in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:29   we don't care take that Jon Jay when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:32   was in school you know basically you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:36   he was the first secretary of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   Treasury he got shot us in a duel with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   aaron burr he's on the ten-dollar bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   next and I mean the way the way history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:45   was doled out to us and in high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:48   was pretty much you know okay the Civil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:49   War you memorize the general for each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:52   battle that's it right there was no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54   context there was no interest was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:56   like you know memorize this stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:57   take the test and you know I all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:00   stuff I learned on my own because I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   interested and now i'm watching my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   fourteen-year-old going through the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:05   thing he doesn't like musicals he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07   interested in reading history books he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   wants to know more because he fell in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   love with the musical he wants he wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:13   his teacher to play it like maybe you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:14   need to listen to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:15   so let me ask what what do you think all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   of you are what is the what is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:20   that causes Hamilton to have the appeal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   that it does to all of us we haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   even seen the show to all the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:25   are trying to see the show that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:26   who see the show and they love it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:29   know what what is what is the source of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:30   of the appeal home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:33   well three things i'm gonna claim 1 it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:37   super super catchy they say you need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   show that you can hum and I hum stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:42   from this musical always all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   yeah like if I'm in a line i am waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:47   for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:48   it's an entire can of your worms it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:49   too can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:50   it's not the entire first act song after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:53   song after song about how ya the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:56   act is it is staggering ya next it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:59   genuinely interesting story about an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01   interesting guy who you'd heard of but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:05   didn't know a lot about so as soon as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:08   you've heard the album once you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:11   like you know so much more about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13   American Revolution which if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   American is a very important event so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:18   you can immediately be telling people oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20   well George Washington's right-hand man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:23   was Alexander Hamilton he had to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25   his leverage for Washington because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:26   Washington was so overwhelmed even wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:29   washington famous farewell speech and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   then they kind of start edging away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:33   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:34   they do with me I know dates now because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:37   they're in Kachin times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:38   yeah I only had two I was bluffing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:41   alright time for a sponsor here on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:44   accountable you know I've got a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:45   feedback about the sponsor from our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:46   previous episode it is unusual a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   bit for us it is a sponsor related to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:50   panties and people are like really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:51   panties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:52   well you know did you not hear the ads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:53   for underpants and for socks there maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:56   who knows what other garments might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58   coming next but this in particular it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   Valentine's season and this is a service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02   it is designed for people with women who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1862">TS</a>]

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00:32:44   who don't like musical theater don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:45   like rap don't like anything and I i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   think it's the don't like America don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49   like to know those don't don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1969">TS</a>]

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00:32:57   connection there's something in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   story pretty much for everybody and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   songs you know the the album is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1981">TS</a>]

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00:33:05   complete narrative which so few musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1985">TS</a>]

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00:33:10   there's always like big leaps that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   have to make being like does that make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   sense but this is a show this is a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/1994">TS</a>]

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00:33:25   on hurricane is one of those great you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:28   know examples of an act to sign that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:30   actually didn't initially like and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:33   the more I listened to it the more i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:36   really really identified with oh this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38   actually you know everybody everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2018">TS</a>]

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00:33:42   have this one talent that can get me out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:45   of situations and for some people is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   writing for some people it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   entirely different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2029">TS</a>]

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00:34:03   to make a name for themselves wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:05   do something important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:06   fresh off the boat yeah I literally yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2046">TS</a>]

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00:34:14   listening to it it it reminded me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:18   a lot of like oh that's the the energy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:21   that i missed that from being like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   not I'm not 22 anymore you know i'm 19 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   i'm not like young scrappy and hungry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:28   I've kind of settled a little bit and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   have sort of a step and a stagnant life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:33   but I have a settled a good life but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35   feel like Hamilton is the kind of show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37   you listen to to get you excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39   your life and what you could be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:41   and other possibilities and living in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43   the greatest city in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45   I don't know it just there there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   parts of the show that put just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:48   biggest smile on my face and make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50   remember like there's there's a world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52   full of possibilities just you wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:55   granted most of those possibilities turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   horrible in act two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2097">TS</a>]

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00:35:11   arabia which again historical figure and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2111">TS</a>]

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00:35:16   intermission and act 1 the first the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2116">TS</a>]

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00:35:40   continues and it it gets complicated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:43   kind of sad after that but that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45   that's all part of the arc of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2145">TS</a>]

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00:35:49   of the appeal of Hamilton two parts one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52   is one is that very ark this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:55   Hamilton's rockstar Hamilton's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2155">TS</a>]

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00:36:00   Hamilton he's a hero all the way through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   the end kind of story is he's almost all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04   I apologize for dragging Babylon 5 into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:07   this business almost rolando he's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09   a Londo malaria character when we talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11   about one broadway show without someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:13   bragging Babylon 5 into the guy i know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:15   know every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2175">TS</a>]

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00:36:19   absolutely me he can't stop himself he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:22   can't shut up and he destroys himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:26   the fuel the fuel that makes him great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:28   also destroys him that he liked is class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:31   Greek tragedy structure exactly yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:34   it's like and you know birds birds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   advice to talk less smile more is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:39   cynical but it's also not bad advice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41   sometimes yeah it's not bad when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:43   comes to self-preservation and Hamilton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:46   has no interest in self-preservation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:48   that's what makes that character so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50   fascinating to watch you know you're up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   there cheering with him at the Battle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:55   Yorktown and he just looks unstoppable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   and you're just so full of energy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2217">TS</a>]

00:37:00   then you watch him repeatedly screw up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:02   it's not just a tragedy of things bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:04   things happening to him but he gives bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06   advice to his son he goes nuts on John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:10   Adams the fatalism I i think is a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:13   good point that in my shot he says I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:16   imagine that so what's it feels more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:17   like a memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:18   when's it gonna get in my sleep seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:21   feet ahead of me because he had come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23   into a run to let it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:24   is it like a beat without a melody never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:27   thought I'd live past 20 where I come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   from as many ask anybody in the fast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:34   we laugh reach from a blast we have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:36   make this moment last you have like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:38   a match that from from Hamilton that his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:42   life has started out so badly and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:44   been surrounded by death that he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46   really expect to live and and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   Washington tells him eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:50   all rights you want to fight got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   hunger was just like you when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   younger it full of that disease and die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:57   like a martyr yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:58   dying is easy young men living is hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:01   this is a moment of change but that mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:03   this is Hamilton's worldview and you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:05   it it he's not he's not living to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:08   survive rewrite he's living to go out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:11   a in a burst of glory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13   yeah he wants he thinks up until that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:14   moment he thinks the way to make his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   legacy is to get there do something go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:19   out in a blaze of glory and it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:20   morning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:21   get it get put in the fight so he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   die a hero instead of being back at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25   bank general Mercer got a street name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:26   for ah mr. secretary mr. Byrd did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:30   hear the news about good old general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   Mercer now you know come on street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   yeah they renamed it after him the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   Mersenne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:37   legacy is secure sure you only had to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:40   is die that's a lot less work we ought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42   to give it a try just that would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   been easy wouldn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:45   the other thing that really makes this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:48   musical just hum is sometimes Hamilton's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:52   not the most interesting character in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   the show Aaron Burr oh yeah you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:58   these are two hugely flawed people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:02   they attacked life in completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:05   different ways but aaron burr is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:10   know the things that he wants you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:11   understand why he wants them and as he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:14   falls further and further behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:16   hamilton and and becomes almost unhinged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:22   by the end you feel for him you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:24   that that man is not going to make an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26   orphan of my daughter you know that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   lines just sort of like desperately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   screamed out you watch the intersection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:33   between those two characters and that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:37   that may be the most propulsive force in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:40   the in the whole thing maybe even beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:43   the catchy songs think it's well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   humanist right i mean there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47   these these are real people they leap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:50   off of the page and out of the song I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   really great interview with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54   descendants of Hamilton and burr hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:57   yes a descendant of hamilton and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:58   ascended tuber are both friends and in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:01   boating club in New York which i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03   is fascinating it by itself descended a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:06   burr said she really didn't like Ron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08   charnos book because aaron burr is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:11   a villain in it but she loves Hamilton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:13   because Burke comes off as more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:16   rounded character like he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18   motivations in the musical that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:21   are explored in the book I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23   fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:24   well in and lemon well Miranda mentions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26   that he had a couple of different books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   to get first side and one of them i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   on a perennial bookmark list to to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:33   eventually this is that the heartbreak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:34   of Aaron Burr which goes down that round [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36   of the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   wait for it is such a fantastic song on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   the album because it really does detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:42   like this is this is trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44   inside the head of someone who will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   later become the villain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:47   and like what what he what he cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   about and it comes down to death doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:52   discriminate in this insane to teach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:58   break live with everyone guide coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:08   I'm willing to wait for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:11   that's supposed to be 20 25 year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   bursting that but we also we look down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:16   we have the privilege of knowing future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:17   history and knowing that Theodosia dice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:20   unspeakable young of stomach cancer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:23   knowing that his daughter dies lost at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:24   sea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:25   well I you could argue that this is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   I mean he's an audience proxy so berber [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:29   in many ways has access to the knowledge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   of where of where this is all going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:32   that's part of the story because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34   the damn fool who shot him right from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36   the start so this is he's telling that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   story and so and so that makes it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:41   more at the whole conceit of having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:44   aaron berger tell the story of Alexander [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:45   Hamilton is a great move and it leads to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:49   a lot of interesting shading but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   funny that you mention wait for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:52   because i would actually argue that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:55   one of those songs that if you take it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:56   out of the context of the musical that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   is a legitimately great song that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:01   just a great song and then in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   context of who's singing it and why he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05   singing it and you could even argue in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:08   some ways he's singing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:09   I mean describing everyone who has loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   him has died that's the Hamilton story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:14   to when he comes to America is everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:17   has died and he there's nobody left but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19   him these two men are both in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21   position where they know you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23   they've got nobody until they make their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:25   own way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:26   bern hamilton have the same story or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:29   same backstory in many ways and yet they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:32   interact with the world and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   they're they're they're shaped by those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36   stories in such different ways up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:39   lin-manuel Miranda you know graduation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:42   speeches you know grin when well Miranda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   set for life on that circuit uh mom and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:47   he did a great one where he told the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:50   crop of college graduates you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:53   wait for it and I'm going to take my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   shot not going to throw not throwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:58   away my shot art like the the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00   different ways to deal with life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:03   sometimes you have to do one sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:05   you have to do the other and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:06   fascinating in this musical watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:09   when those strategies work for Hamilton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:12   and burr and when they fail utterly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14   absolutely and not to nothing Darrell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16   too much but i would highly recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18   if after you've listened to the show if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:21   people want to go see there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   alternate version of wait for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   that was performed on Broadway does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   thing every year where they basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   get focus on stage and they did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   basically a very close to acoustic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:34   version of wait for it based around all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:38   of the recent murders that have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:39   going like the the black lives matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:42   movement and some of the other the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:45   recent mass shooting in San Bernardino [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:46   and it's it's chilling how you can take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:49   a song that you know is very much in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:52   context in the musical but this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:54   is why i think that this musical is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   just like pop pop culture explosion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:59   will die in six months that it actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:00   has lasting meaning that you can take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   you know you remove the first verse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04   you take the rest of the dish the song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:07   out of context you put it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   completely different situation reminds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:12   me a little bit of rents like will I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   lose my dignity will someone care was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:17   just these sort of haunting haunting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:19   phrases that just stick in your head and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21   are useful for so many different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   situations it's kind of interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   contrast with rent and that rent has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:28   character who's obsessed with writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:31   one song before he dies that he might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33   remembered a little whereas everyone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:36   Hamilton is doing these huge things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   are going to be in history books for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40   ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42   no it's yeah I it's funny because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:44   don't think that you know I i went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:46   actually after listening to Hamilton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   about a gazillion times I'm like I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   to listen to you know things older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:53   musical so I went back and listened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55   blame is which is obviously a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:56   inspiration for Hamilton in many ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58   and also really like the French cousin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00   of Hamilton but i also went back in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   listened to rent and it was funny in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:06   some ways where is like things that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:07   thought were endlessly clever as a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:10   know fourteen-year-old just discovering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:11   rent i think are less clever now I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:15   run but let's let's cut rent a break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:17   because of this it's essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:18   unfinished I mean it was recently our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20   second it's brilliant for what it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22   what it is an unfinished work but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24   exactly and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:25   yeah I know I'm not downplaying don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:27   know i just i want to point out that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:28   mean i think that i think you're right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   I think brilliant but yet it has it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:33   the it but the energy is the same i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   think that's what I was coming back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37   is like the the energy and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:39   excitement and the love that the care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   that the cast felts and just that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   the the buzz it was something different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   it was something special there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47   clunkers and rent probably would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   gotten smooth that probably so yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51   there are a few clunkers in in there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:53   this one too it's not a perfect musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55   but that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:56   perfect mother musical always always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:59   enough something more to shoot for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:00   I like a couple points what one is I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02   talking about that there's this idea in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:05   this about these people in this place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07   you talk about you know all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:09   place things are going to be remembered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:10   throughout history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12   Cherno makes the point in his book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:15   he there's a whole interesting section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:18   where he says that you may be asking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:19   yourself what how how fortunate are we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:21   that these people who had these ideals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23   and these approaches were in this place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:26   at this time right the greatest city in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:27   the world which is totally just sucking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29   up to the people who are we here in New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:30   York City but I they the how how could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:35   it be well you know it's so it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:36   lucky and what your noses look at those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:38   people are always around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:39   it's only they're only useful during a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:42   revolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:43   they're always around but during a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   revolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:46   those are the people who end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:47   gravitating toward these things because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49   they're the right people for that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:50   of moment other in another time they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:53   might be a horribly frustrated person or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:54   simply somebody that you never heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56   who lived a life where they didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58   to put those ideals into action but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00   they're they're always with us and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02   those moments when the this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   thing happens they're the ones who we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06   end up remembering so I thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:07   an interesting point that and that of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09   course happened like during the lives of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   something like Thomas Paine was hugely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:14   important and great when we need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16   revolution is the revolution is over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:17   Thomas Paine is a really annoying guy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:20   have stopped listening don't hear much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   about thomas & Hamilton's youth is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   actually really important to this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26   because being late to the party in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:30   ways uh you know his story becomes more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:33   about the nation-building about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:34   revolution the revolution is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:35   dramatic and it's part of his coming of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37   age and they're all of that in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:38   but you know Hamilton makes his stamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:41   after the Revolution when they're when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:43   they're building the country and another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:44   thing that's internos book is that gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   glossed over in American history class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48   when your kid is it was a real tenuous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:51   thing that there was going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:52   federal government with a strong central [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:55   government after the Revolution it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57   very very hard for that to be coming to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2877">TS</a>]

00:48:00   being in hamilton was a big part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:02   and that that's his story his story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04   the is the after the Revolution part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   more really than the end of revolution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   partying so that that's a that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   an interesting spin on it i love stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   like that chip a little like Babylon 5 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   where you know when the war is over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:17   story doesn't get isn't over in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19   what you do after the war when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:21   trying to put things back together can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23   be way more interesting and complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:24   than fighting the war and Hamilton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:27   definitely deals with that Wally while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:30   he also is you know his plight his life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:32   is in pieces too but he's trying to put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   the simultaneously his life is in pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   and he's trying to put the country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:37   together and unlike Babylon 5 the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:40   post-war peace really does hold up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:42   yeah well you know that's because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   didn't try to they didn't have to finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46   the war early for fear that the country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   would be cancelled point I i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:51   shift gears a little bit i want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53   about the women of Hamilton that's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:55   of the things that's really notable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:56   about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:57   this play is that special is that limit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2937">TS</a>]

00:49:00   while Miranda and I should say also how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02   amazing is that mean he is the star and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:05   he is the writer of the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07   that's pretty amazing it's pretty great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09   but he has chosen to take this narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:12   that could very easily about the men in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   power me but it's not and it in and make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:19   sure that women's voices are heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:20   throughout but one one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:23   that really jumped out at me on like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:27   third or fourth lesson was that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:30   a thread of helplessness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:33   satisfaction throughout the whole story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:37   and the songs you know at first you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   think well they're all kind of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:40   songs right they're not necessarily all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:43   connected but there's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:44   recurring theme of that would be enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:47   oh he will never be satisfied i would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:50   satisfied if you survived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   don't die that's that would be enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54   right and the men are never quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:56   satisfied and the women are the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:58   ones the women are the ones are like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00   I talk to Jefferson at all you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:03   we'll we'll see about getting women into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   the sequel in in the declaration of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   independence and common sense and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09   those things and and the women are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   eminently sensible in this show and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:15   the men are idiots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:17   it also extends to the ensemble the US [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:20   soldiers the cabinet members men and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:24   women it's you know yet that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26   come across in the cast album but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:29   it's an ensemble yeah you can tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31   can tell from the from the choral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   arrangements if you have an ear for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:34   those things but yeah I mean in if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:36   look at any of the any of the shots and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:39   I of the cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   it's incredible actually just how many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:42   of the ensemble members are ladies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:45   if you listen to the background voices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47   on the on the cast album for all of sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:50   of the little bit parts you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:53   oh I wish i'm so glad we're here with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:55   him and oh no you didn't during the rap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:58   battles it's a lot of the call-outs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3058">TS</a>]

00:50:59   all the the ladies all sonically usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:02   have to find a way to shove women in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:04   somehow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:04   uh-huh that's why Gilbert and Sullivan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   Iraq were constantly saying and here he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:09   is with his eight daughters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   yeah exactly all right we need coral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:14   harmonies but no i mean what i found was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:18   really fascinating about the staging of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:21   this and just the use of the coral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:24   members you know quite the chorus often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   plays a lot of different roles like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   they're expected to kind of quick change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:29   and and sort of be scenery and be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   ensemble members wherever the ensemble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:34   is necessary but Hamilton seems to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   it a step further and also a step back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:39   in the sort of the tradition of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:40   Greek chorus where you know the chorus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:43   and most of the pictures are very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:46   simply dressed in white beauty like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   beautiful white inspired colonial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:52   outfits but not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:53   colonial outfits and they're all white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55   and off-white and then they get these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   various things but you combine this with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00   just an ever presence of like these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   almost the ghosts walking through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   Hamilton versus life and you have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:07   proscenium stage that has an upper an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:10   upper balcony where characters are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   constantly standing on and looking down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:15   at the action and judging the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:18   for what's going on and what what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   about to happen there was a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   interview vulture did this huge this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24   whole series about Hamilton Alexander [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:27   Hamilton's birthday so they did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:28   week-long about the show Hamilton and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30   they did am an interview with a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   of the cast members of the the auxiliary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:35   cast members and including Renee lows at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:39   least goals i butchered her name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:40   um who plays Angelica Skyler on and DVD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:44   digs who plays jefferson and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:47   mentioned her like yeah there's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:49   there's one of the songs and I'm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:52   know I look up because i have a free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:54   moment and i see that Chris Jackson who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:56   plays George Washington is just standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:59   up in the winter you know standing up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   this upper balcony just judging me just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03   looking at me one and its influence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05   every single performance i've done since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07   then because I just feel his eyes on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   back of my neck while I'm singing and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:12   don't know I there's there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   omnipresent about it that I really loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   and well it can makes no bones about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:19   being a story told to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:22   oh yeah that whole framework of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24   staging it's not it's you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:27   obvious or blatant about it's not like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:30   look at what we're doing but exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   it's like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:33   it's just they're leveling call he adds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:37   i love when feeder can do that history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39   has its eyes on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:40   yeah who tells your story that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:43   difficult to tell stories uh from these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45   periods involving women when all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:48   action is happening with the men in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51   terms of what we know as the history and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   so with with angelica especially I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:58   was satisfied you get some very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:01   interesting moments we have we have put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03   Alexander Hamilton up on a pedestal this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:06   is his show we have heard 11 songs you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:09   know that are all about Hamilton in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:12   way or another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:13   and when we get to Angelica song her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:16   reaction to Hamilton is finally there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:19   somebody who can match me which is we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21   will undermine left right yeah it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   he's not he's he's just it's a relief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   that he's at her level and it's a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28   relief it's kind of amazing this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30   it feels like to match with one of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   level with the feeling of freedom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:35   light you see it right conversation with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:38   two minutes maybe three minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:39   everything we can in total agreement is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41   the dream dance in the monster with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:44   bit of a blur but i'm giving a chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:47   family you can see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   and envisioning you understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:51   anyways he's flying by the seat of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:52   pants and so will and that song is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54   may be my favorite song the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:56   although I you know every song in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:57   first actor Michael that's my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   no no this wasn't her but she's got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:02   she's got the line and that that is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:10   think very important because this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:13   this is the show saying look this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15   what this is our lot in life is we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:18   to work with stuff like this and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:20   not that she is any less capable than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:23   hamilton and in real life Angelica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:26   scholar with a formidable person reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:29   common sense but Thomas Paine yeah when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31   I meet Thomas Jefferson and I did and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:33   I'm have had an affair with me boo knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:36   yeah she's apparently real pals with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:39   Jefferson oh yeah but when it's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41   they're both overseas she moves i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:44   heading off to London I have found a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:45   wealthy husband who always pays no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47   actually I wanted to say something about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:49   the one-two punch of helpless and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:52   satisfied and I think our is very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:55   important to the core of this musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:56   it's my boy also modern in a narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:59   way where we see the courtship play out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:02   and helpless and then in satisfied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:05   immediately we rewind and see the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07   courtship again and planning played out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09   through the other sisters perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   it's so it's brilliant brilliant young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:14   and some 21 fun fun side note i'm went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:18   once I saw Hamilton i went back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   watched or listened to all of Miranda's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:21   other stuff and there's a small rewind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:25   bit and bring it on the musical which he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   worked on together and as soon as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29   heard that that the whole musical is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:32   like oh my god I see the seeds of all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:33   these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:34   yeah but going back to to satisfied into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:37   helpless i think it is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:38   fascinating to me that we we don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:41   it through Peggy's I before we don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   a Peggy Peggy vision but i love that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45   don't have a contrast between we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:49   Eliza just being completely struck head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:51   over heels with this with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:53   magnificent thinker who just always says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:56   the right thing and has the right words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:57   and then you've got Angelica who is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:00   yeah you're pretty smooth I appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:01   that you can be on my level and both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:04   these women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:05   the second act get called better they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07   get called back to the end of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:08   act to do you know Eliza basically being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:10   like you know all I wanna be is around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:12   you know I want to be around your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:14   brilliance i wanna you know I know who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:15   married I know what I signed up for and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:18   I'm okay with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:19   Angelica's like well you know I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:22   what I had to sign up for and i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   going to live you know i'm going to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26   vicariously through my letters to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:27   and I'm gonna still time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   perhaps dr. Thomas Jefferson and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:33   enact to each of these ladies get say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:36   you know Eliza gets her own song but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:39   I'll but I evangelica gets a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41   where they get to read like go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:45   their original their first act selves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:47   and just basically be like no you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:50   what I'm revising my I'm revising my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:52   place in the narrative where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:54   Angelica you know Angelica of course is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:56   singing the melody from satisfied when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58   she goes into him after he's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   ruined everything and you publish the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:01   Reynolds pamphlets happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:10   what we had died i'm standing at a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:13   you gonna be my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:16   she just walks off she's like BAM she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:19   not just saying i love Eliza more than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   love myself she's telling it Alexander [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23   you know it's fun being pen pals with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25   you but I'm here for allies it not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:28   yeah actually yeah my the most important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:31   thing to me in my life is my family and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:34   you have basically just ruined my family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36   its mind over yourself you in so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:39   exactly and then Eliza has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41   blockbuster moment and burn which used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:44   to be one of my least favorite songs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:46   is now very much grown on me but burns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:49   is basically the entire like burn for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51   one thing it's the inverse chord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53   structure of helpless which is beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   and for another she's basically tearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:58   down everything that she said and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3538">TS</a>]

00:58:59   helpless when she's like I see myself as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01   this naive kid you know I saved every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03   letter you wrote me and and I love all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:07   of these things and and then I and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:09   she gets to see she has to see it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:12   an outsider's perspective she wrote to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:17   you you told the whole world how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:20   brought this girl into our bed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:23   clearing your name have ruined on ma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:30   angelica what she read what you've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:38   everything it comes to close to the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:42   it's very much the the concept of oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:47   well this one was actually very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:48   uneducated this woman that he had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:50   affair with and this woman was complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:52   complete you know buffoon not be food in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54   some ways but very under the education [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:57   level of any of the Skyler sisters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:57   level of any of the Skyler sisters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   and.and she manages to paint this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   such a way that like it's such a biting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:04   way of I was this stupid I was this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:07   was this lovesick girl I was the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:10   who did this and I'm taking i'm taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12   my narrative back she said she may say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14   i'm removing myself from the narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:16   from your narrative but in in essence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:18   she's also saying like I'm taking my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   narrative back and I'm not going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22   you know i'm not going to be the help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24   sick love you know the lovesick girl who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:26   can't who can't be on her own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:28   you can't do anything who requires a man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:32   to survive to quit the last five years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3632">TS</a>]

01:00:34   because it seems the matically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:35   appropriate it i don't know it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:40   there arc over the over the course of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:42   the musical is fascinating to me when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:44   Angelica and satisfied and she's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:48   first one who really points out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:50   darkness within Hamilton that's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:53   come out of item and that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55   something i wanted to point out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57   she's just you know she reads him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3657">TS</a>]

01:01:00   instantly and she's kicking herself for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:02   it but as it turns out she read him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:05   exactly right and when it comes home to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:07   roost it at in the second act with god I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:10   hope you're satisfied the one of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:13   that the way the story ends this is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15   is and this is tied to history right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   this is Eliza ends up telling his story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:20   this is the moment that everybody so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   was driving to the airport to pick up my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24   mom and it was raining and it took me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:26   way too long to get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:28   the traffic was really slow and I made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30   the mistake of starting sort of the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:32   of Act one of hamilton and so by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:34   time i'm sitting on the 880 freeway and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3694">TS</a>]

01:01:36   it's pouring down rain i mentioned ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:37   five miles an hour and it's getting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:39   the end of hamilton and I am just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:41   sobbing in the car at that last at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:44   last song but also knowing the history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46   of it now that makes it even more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3706">TS</a>]

01:01:48   heartbreaking because this is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   Eliza is one of the reasons that we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:54   what we do she's the one who set their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:56   son as well on the case of making sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3716">TS</a>]

01:02:00   that people remember to Alexander [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:01   Hamilton was and saving his papers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   she creates the orphanage which of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:06   course Hamilton was an orphan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:07   essentially uh you know she raises funds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:10   for the Washington Monument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:11   these are all these are all historical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:14   fact but the beauty of it is even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:17   we start with burr you know it is Eliza [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:20   hotels Alexander Hamilton story so so in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:24   the end i mean this this is the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:26   where we get we have the narrative and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:27   she takes herself out and put yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:28   back in all that happens so so it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:32   she's the one who is who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   who is finishing the story at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:36   and so she is vitally important to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:39   all happening and historically she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:40   vitally important to Hamilton story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42   being told so in in the end you know she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:45   without the women of this story the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:47   story doesn't it can't be told she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:49   rescues the narrative to your documents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:52   she basically you know we start with / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:54   when we the world was wide enough could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:57   be an ending song now I'm the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3777">TS</a>]

01:03:02   I was too young and lie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:07   to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:11   No [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:13   I should have known world was wide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:17   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:19   the world was wide enough for both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:29   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:31   and then just sprinkle sadness and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:36   but that's not that but exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:38   but she picks up the hell is she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:40   outlived both of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:42   no one one of the things that I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:45   really pulling people into this too is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:50   we can see ourselves and in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:52   these characters right there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:54   thread of youthful exuberance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:57   confidence and intelligence and Hamilton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   there's this thread of fear and envy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:02   and worry tuber you know he's afraid to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:06   make a choice he's afraid to do it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:08   he really wants to be in the room where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:10   it happens is is and you by that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:13   and and yet it's the the groundedness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3853">TS</a>]

01:04:17   the the focus of Eliza by the end that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:22   what carries through at the end and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:24   kind of want to be that to their you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:27   know i mean i can i can look back at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:28   own life and see moments where I was any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:31   one of the three of them and hopefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:33   hopefully I more like Eliza than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35   others but you know I'm human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:38   but i but i love the balance between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:40   those characters because because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:43   would say that's exactly right it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:44   a traditional hero villain kind of story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:47   and it's it's more interesting that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:50   we should talk about some of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:52   other I mean how I don't let your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:54   characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:55   oh my god there's so many characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:56   that are you doing laughter that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58   major part that are major parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00   history even but in hamilton the musical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:03   they are smaller parts get Washington [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3903">TS</a>]

01:05:06   well so I was gonna start with George [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:08   Washington interesting of you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:09   want to mention some of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:10   characters to just say Washington [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:12   Washington you know he gets a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:14   press if you're an American you grow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:16   you know about the father of our country [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:17   and and and all these things and use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19   general and the revolutionary war that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   shot down a cherry tree that he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:23   actually do which he didn't do the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:25   I Washington we get here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:27   ar-ar-ar-ar really great and and boiled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:33   down i think some interesting historical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:36   facts about Washington and how he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:38   relates to Hamilton both as a general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40   and as the as the president that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42   really appreciate I i really enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:45   I really enjoy Washington of course when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:48   when he visits with Hamilton and we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:53   a whole right-hand man thing it is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:55   of spectacular we get you know quoting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57   actual lines of of Washington than by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3957">TS</a>]

01:06:00   the chance to defend America that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:02   exactly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:03   you get that sense of disc desperation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:05   which comes back and stay alive as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:07   that again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:08   history we think of history as a favor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:10   to complete when you get taught in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:12   school and then seeing it here you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:14   realize how how it could have gone any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:16   number of bad ways and that these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:19   were kind of remarkable to have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:20   what they did and and the portrayal of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:22   washington in hamilton actually i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:24   i really love it yet Christopher Jackson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:26   does a great job it is a it is a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28   cool kind of performance to get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:30   sense of this guy being so formidable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:32   and so respected by the other characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:36   because he's I mean who else could it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:38   who else could be the president who else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:40   could give legitimate legitimacy to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:43   federal government there's only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:44   person could have possibly been and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46   was Washington we look back at this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:48   retrospect now and and all these years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:50   we've known this we've known this is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:52   it all filters out but what if Luke had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:55   missed the shot in the Death Star trench [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:57   right yeah it's the same kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4017">TS</a>]

01:07:00   it's just taken is given now but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:03   moment maybe it doesn't work maybe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:05   fails we got a star wars references to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:08   work yeah we're doing are we doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:10   check by Frank that tricky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:12   anyway you want to talk about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:13   we got we got duh obviously Jefferson we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:16   got a Lorentz and lafayette and Hercules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:18   Mulligan mad and Samuel seabury and King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:21   George George when he says that he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:25   through like the first two chapters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:26   suddenly wanted to write the book on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:28   1st earth would the show on the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:31   page of chapter 3 in the book is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:33   name Hercules mulligan and i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:36   think he had to have read that far just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:37   to go i wanna rhyme that name i'll bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:40   that I name my name is really as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:45   again I mean come on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:46   sounds like a rapper named yeah I i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:49   sit I will say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:50   daveed digs in the two great roles of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:53   lafayette Jefferson is incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:56   yeah if that man does not get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:58   supporting Tony I will cry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:01   yeah I hope he finds something else to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:04   do on Broadway cuz i don't want him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:06   go back to just being a rapper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:08   I don't know what else they can do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:10   him I he'd be a great uh Harold Hill & [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:14   Music Man but that's kind of obvious i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4094">TS</a>]

01:08:17   wanted to stick around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:18   yeah he's um I mean again reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:22   interviews with him is very funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:23   because of course he's relatively new to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:25   the Broadway thing and it was lemon well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:27   Miranda being like oh my god I know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:29   perfect person from this and just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:32   for it and it was true it's true it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:34   absolutely true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:35   the dual casting is something to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:37   about to the fact that you know I'm devi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:41   digs and i can't pronounce his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:43   properly so i'm not going to oak who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:46   plays Hercules Mulligan and James [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:48   Madison and and Anthony Ramos who plays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:50   phillip hamilton and john lawrence I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:53   don't want to swap their because really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4133">TS</a>]

01:08:55   it's yeah but uh it's it is crazy to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:59   the fact that they have such wildly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:01   different parts you know you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:03   what defeat has to play in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:05   half of the show vs. the second half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4145">TS</a>]

01:09:08   the show the styles of like lafayette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4148">TS</a>]

01:09:10   and Jefferson are two very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4150">TS</a>]

01:09:12   people they may have both spent a decent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:15   amount of time in France come but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:17   merit not at all no no and it's such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:21   cool challenge for the actors to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23   and they have different singing styles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:25   defeat has to wrap in French essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:28   like wrapping a French accent with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:31   little bit of French toston i'm anthony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:33   around us has to die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:35   well suppose died twice huh i get enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4175">TS</a>]

01:09:39   history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:39   I don't know John had been a while ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:41   yeah I'm Lawrence doesn't really make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:43   through the revolution spoilers for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:45   American Revolution y-yeah I guess yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:48   and and ochre a date and help them send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4188">TS</a>]

01:09:53   that right who plays Hercules Mulligan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:55   and James Madison I mean Hercules [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:57   mulligan is like the again is the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4197">TS</a>]

01:10:00   rap name of hot girls elegant and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:03   he goes to play Madison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05   and it's like Mulligan wraps pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07   the entire first step and is just acting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:09   it's just kind of like yeah I'm the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaO4GSc/4209">TS</a>]

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