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00:00:28   mar 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/28">TS</a>]

00:00:32   welcome back everybody to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/32">TS</a>]

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00:00:35   and we're going to open up the video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/35">TS</a>]

00:00:38   game Dusty covers of the video game club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/38">TS</a>]

00:00:40   which doesn't get to work out that often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/40">TS</a>]

00:00:42   but they're back to talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/42">TS</a>]

00:00:44   recently released the game probably fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/44">TS</a>]

00:00:47   watch from campo santo and published by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   Panik available for Windows OS 10 linux [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/49">TS</a>]

00:00:53   and if you get a ps4 it will work on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/53">TS</a>]

00:00:55   their to joining me to talk about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/55">TS</a>]

00:00:58   recent release video game which I so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/58">TS</a>]

00:01:01   rarely play but i did this time it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/61">TS</a>]

00:01:03   very exciting are my panelists fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/63">TS</a>]

00:01:05   group all brian hamilton hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07   wait we're not here to play wizards in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09   wyvern's I wait for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/69">TS</a>]

00:01:12   Tiffany arms is back to talk more video [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/72">TS</a>]

00:01:14   games hello hi it's good to have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/74">TS</a>]

00:01:17   serenity Caldwell's out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19   hello hello hello it's the ghost of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/79">TS</a>]

00:01:22   serenity called my flu racked ghost but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/82">TS</a>]

00:01:24   she's and I'm trying to imitate what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/84">TS</a>]

00:01:26   might sound like coming through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/86">TS</a>]

00:01:27   walkie-talkie oh nice Tony sindelar is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/87">TS</a>]

00:01:30   scanning the forest hi Tony high and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/90">TS</a>]

00:01:33   John siracusa of course because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/93">TS</a>]

00:01:35   talking about video games i'm glad i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37   don't see any progress bar counting down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   when i'm asked to reply on the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/99">TS</a>]

00:01:40   wait you don't see that it's there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/100">TS</a>]

00:01:43   in mind it's in my mind the the why is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/103">TS</a>]

00:01:46   my answer will move on i have I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/106">TS</a>]

00:01:49   start this bob so that this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/109">TS</a>]

00:01:51   interesting I guess disclosure here is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/111">TS</a>]

00:01:54   many of us know the people at Panik who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/114">TS</a>]

00:01:56   published this game although i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58   know anybody at campo santo who produced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/118">TS</a>]

00:02:01   it and i really only saw a preview of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/121">TS</a>]

00:02:05   XOXO last fall but uh that's all really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/125">TS</a>]

00:02:08   I knew about it and I played a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/128">TS</a>]

00:02:13   weeks ago I my only other bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   disclosure if this is an opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17   statement so be it is when i was i just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19   graduated from college in 1992 i worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/139">TS</a>]

00:02:25   for the summer at my local newspaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27   back home and one of the stories that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/147">TS</a>]

00:02:30   wrote was about a guy named herb who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/150">TS</a>]

00:02:33   a fire spotter and he lived for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/153">TS</a>]

00:02:36   summer in a single room platform at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/156">TS</a>]

00:02:39   top of a mountain and look for smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/159">TS</a>]

00:02:43   from forest fires and radioed them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/163">TS</a>]

00:02:45   I went out to the to the fire tower and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/165">TS</a>]

00:02:49   interviewed him and so to see a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/169">TS</a>]

00:02:52   based on that premise is sort of tickled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54   me and i can say that it pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/174">TS</a>]

00:02:57   jobs with my my memory of his fire tower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/177">TS</a>]

00:03:01   the setting of the fire tower and fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03   watch so yeah I got I got kind of a kick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05   out of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/185">TS</a>]

00:03:05   it wasn't a two-day hike to get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07   which is part of the plot of a Firewatch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09   so so far watches a it's a it's a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/189">TS</a>]

00:03:13   where you are you're Henry who too is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/193">TS</a>]

00:03:17   working in Wyoming in the National [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/197">TS</a>]

00:03:19   Forest as a fire spotter so he has got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/199">TS</a>]

00:03:22   his he takes a two day hike and goes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/202">TS</a>]

00:03:25   this tower where he can overlook the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/205">TS</a>]

00:03:28   forest and he can see off to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   Ridge where there's another tower in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32   which is Delilah who is another person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/212">TS</a>]

00:03:36   working at sapphire spotter and she sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/216">TS</a>]

00:03:38   of his manager and then we have a sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/218">TS</a>]

00:03:42   of adventure and discussion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44   flashbacks of hit of what has brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46   Henry to this point and that is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/226">TS</a>]

00:03:49   Firewatch is all about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/229">TS</a>]

00:03:52   I so love what would people think i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/232">TS</a>]

00:03:56   gonna start here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/236">TS</a>]

00:03:57   Firewatch opens with an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/237">TS</a>]

00:04:00   structure where you are sort of in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/240">TS</a>]

00:04:04   series of flashbacks about how you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   to the lookout and it's not sort of just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/246">TS</a>]

00:04:11   a prologue that gets you there but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   series of choices you've got to make and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/253">TS</a>]

00:04:16   they're kind of interlaced with arriving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/256">TS</a>]

00:04:19   in the in the forest and i'm curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/259">TS</a>]

00:04:22   what everybody thought about the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   that the story starts it is incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/264">TS</a>]

00:04:27   cinematic especially because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29   completely breaks that the expectation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/269">TS</a>]

00:04:33   that this is going to be you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/273">TS</a>]

00:04:34   kind of cinematic game with those with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/274">TS</a>]

00:04:37   those text adventure bits we get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/277">TS</a>]

00:04:40   choose what you say in the bar and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/280">TS</a>]

00:04:43   say on the balcony and things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45   and then goes back to these beautifully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/285">TS</a>]

00:04:48   faded in faded out moments they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/288">TS</a>]

00:04:49   timed perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/289">TS</a>]

00:04:51   it feels this is the most playable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53   movie-style game ever played that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/293">TS</a>]

00:04:56   different than a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   the games that use the same mechanics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/298">TS</a>]

00:04:59   where they will be text on the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01   and you have a series of choices very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   early on in the intro sequence which by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/303">TS</a>]

00:05:05   the way is not really what the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07   the game is like it yeah we're like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/307">TS</a>]

00:05:08   pre credits type sequence where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10   make your picture is is it becomes clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/310">TS</a>]

00:05:11   if you've played a lot of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/311">TS</a>]

00:05:13   adventures that this is mostly not going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/313">TS</a>]

00:05:16   to be one of those games where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   present you with the series of choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   and based on your choices you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/320">TS</a>]

00:05:21   defining your character very early on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23   they force you to make a series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/323">TS</a>]

00:05:26   choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/326">TS</a>]

00:05:27   none of which certainly some bad choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29   the corner corner code good choices you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/329">TS</a>]

00:05:32   because that's the type of game you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/332">TS</a>]

00:05:33   play a lot of a lot of games that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/333">TS</a>]

00:05:35   like they give you a range of choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/335">TS</a>]

00:05:36   where you can decide what kind of person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/336">TS</a>]

00:05:39   you want to be but this game is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/339">TS</a>]

00:05:40   different this game has an idea of who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42   this character is or needs to be for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/342">TS</a>]

00:05:44   purposes of the story and you are forced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/344">TS</a>]

00:05:46   to essentially choose from several what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/346">TS</a>]

00:05:49   you might consider bad choices which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/349">TS</a>]

00:05:51   isn't necessarily a bad thing but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/351">TS</a>]

00:05:53   definitely frames this game is even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/353">TS</a>]

00:05:54   though it has the trappings of the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/354">TS</a>]

00:05:56   know sort of that the tell-tale style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/356">TS</a>]

00:05:58   games like The Walking Dead or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/358">TS</a>]

00:05:59   where you're expecting someone to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/359">TS</a>]

00:06:00   you know you know Kerry will remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/360">TS</a>]

00:06:03   this or whatever I this is more like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/363">TS</a>]

00:06:06   are the person saying that you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/366">TS</a>]

00:06:07   remember this because although there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   many different choices there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/369">TS</a>]

00:06:12   this is not a role-playing game you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/372">TS</a>]

00:06:13   don't get to define Henry Henry is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15   person you have to sort of inhabit him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17   for the course of the game also in all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19   of my playthroughs none of the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21   choices you make really affect anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/381">TS</a>]

00:06:23   in the long run just how you relate to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   Henry and Delilah and I i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/385">TS</a>]

00:06:26   opening I think Johnny said I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/386">TS</a>]

00:06:28   well in terms of you inhabit him and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   thought the opening did a really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/390">TS</a>]

00:06:31   job of like placing you inside of him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   pretty quickly and pretty efficiently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35   and elegantly thoroughly I have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37   something about that CSI i'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39   curious how serenity you feel about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41   too in that when i started playing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43   game I had a really hard time connecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/403">TS</a>]

00:06:45   to it because it's such a personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47   emotional embodiment of the game and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/407">TS</a>]

00:06:50   guess as like a woman playing this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/410">TS</a>]

00:06:53   I couldn't get into it as much because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/413">TS</a>]

00:06:57   felt already like this game wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   supposed to be made for me a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/419">TS</a>]

00:07:02   because of I'm not Henry know what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/422">TS</a>]

00:07:05   mean like i didn't i didn't feel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07   same way Henry was failing are doing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   same thing Henry was doing because I did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/429">TS</a>]

00:07:10   I just felt like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/430">TS</a>]

00:07:11   I I relate more when I can play as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/431">TS</a>]

00:07:14   female character and I think that a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/434">TS</a>]

00:07:15   specifically like this where it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/435">TS</a>]

00:07:19   personal and it's so emotional and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/439">TS</a>]

00:07:22   so specific to you are as you guys said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/442">TS</a>]

00:07:25   like embodied inside of Henry I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/445">TS</a>]

00:07:28   disconnected from that and so that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/448">TS</a>]

00:07:32   you know that bothered me a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/452">TS</a>]

00:07:33   when i played this videogame the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/453">TS</a>]

00:07:35   time i was able to kind of like let that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   go a little bit more but it's still it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39   you know guys don't have to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41   when you see a game like this you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/461">TS</a>]

00:07:42   have to worry about is this game made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   for me because it is and you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46   to think like that you're gonna feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48   differently about the character because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/468">TS</a>]

00:07:51   it just is made for you so I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   I I had a little bit of a hard time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55   connecting ya know I i definitely agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/475">TS</a>]

00:07:58   with you in the beginning especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00   those sort of initial us as well as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/480">TS</a>]

00:08:03   you're describing very cinematic scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05   to me it it there was a little bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/485">TS</a>]

00:08:08   disconnect from it because yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/488">TS</a>]

00:08:12   it's very hard to be like yes I am a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14   late twenties college dude who drinks a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/494">TS</a>]

00:08:18   lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/498">TS</a>]

00:08:18   and these are my motivations and this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20   whom like it takes it took a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/500">TS</a>]

00:08:23   for me to not only get the character but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/503">TS</a>]

00:08:28   to feel like I could uh huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/508">TS</a>]

00:08:31   actually i'll be honest like there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/511">TS</a>]

00:08:32   parts of me that identify with Henry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/512">TS</a>]

00:08:34   throughout the game but the reports to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/514">TS</a>]

00:08:35   me that we're still like you stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37   idiot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/517">TS</a>]

00:08:38   what are you doing why are you saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/518">TS</a>]

00:08:41   these things why don't you get that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/521">TS</a>]

00:08:43   is a code that your supervisors like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/523">TS</a>]

00:08:46   there's so many so many things in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/526">TS</a>]

00:08:48   game where I'm just like oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   you're just your lug your lovable lug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/530">TS</a>]

00:08:53   but all gosh yeah like when they ask how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55   do you pose you know and you're like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/535">TS</a>]

00:08:57   do you pose like you're frolicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/537">TS</a>]

00:08:58   Victoria's Secret her you're a macho man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/538">TS</a>]

00:09:01   and i looked at Marco because my husband [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   who was you know watching me play while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/543">TS</a>]

00:09:04   I was playing the game and I'm like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06   don't know which one do you want to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/546">TS</a>]

00:09:07   was like I'd like there were a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09   questions in the very beginning to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11   set the tone of the game and I like turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/551">TS</a>]

00:09:12   to him like i don't know i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   was able to pick the dog you know I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   like I'm not a jerk i'm totally picking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18   bucket every time that's what she wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/558">TS</a>]

00:09:19   like of course you can be a jerk here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21   but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/561">TS</a>]

00:09:22   that is the correct answer everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/562">TS</a>]

00:09:25   playing role on Team bucket right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/565">TS</a>]

00:09:26   oh yeah yes you better bust well you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/566">TS</a>]

00:09:29   know the gender angle does make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   easier for guys to relate because at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/571">TS</a>]

00:09:32   least they have a fighting chance so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   maybe you knew somebody was like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36   maybe you can relate to be if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/576">TS</a>]

00:09:37   married you can relate to being married [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/577">TS</a>]

00:09:39   to trying to pick up a woman at a bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/579">TS</a>]

00:09:40   when you're drunk or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/580">TS</a>]

00:09:41   but like i said in the beginning even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/581">TS</a>]

00:09:44   four guys the game forces you to realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/584">TS</a>]

00:09:47   you are not playing as yourself you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49   being asked to inhabit this character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/589">TS</a>]

00:09:50   this character that makes bad choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   and that yeah you're only given the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/592">TS</a>]

00:09:55   choice is your given number the ones you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/595">TS</a>]

00:09:57   feel like these are the choices i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   make sure you have to it's kinda like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/599">TS</a>]

00:10:00   when you're reading a book and the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/600">TS</a>]

00:10:01   character is something like to share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/601">TS</a>]

00:10:03   right what it was like you're really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   just a regular novel in the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/605">TS</a>]

00:10:06   characters nothing like you you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   the good book will say well even those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10   characters nothing like me and does make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/610">TS</a>]

00:10:11   decisions that I would never make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/611">TS</a>]

00:10:12   because the the protagonist and if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/612">TS</a>]

00:10:15   author does a good job you can end up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/615">TS</a>]

00:10:16   relating to them and it's kind of like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/616">TS</a>]

00:10:19   life is strange is it not business a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21   similar game to fire watch your life is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/621">TS</a>]

00:10:22   stranger ask the players as a you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24   young teenage girl a lot of games are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/624">TS</a>]

00:10:27   like that in the day they ask you to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/627">TS</a>]

00:10:29   somebody you're not and it's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/629">TS</a>]

00:10:31   kind of game where you have to accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/631">TS</a>]

00:10:34   that it is not a role-playing game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   you don't get to define the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/636">TS</a>]

00:10:37   you just get to I mean you got home late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39   for example I mean I did I diet you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   I relate to the experiences of a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/641">TS</a>]

00:10:44   know a young lesbian teenager and gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/644">TS</a>]

00:10:45   home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/645">TS</a>]

00:10:46   no but if you you know eventually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48   switch your mindset and say alright this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/648">TS</a>]

00:10:51   is not me this is this character and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/651">TS</a>]

00:10:52   sort of being within I don't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/652">TS</a>]

00:10:55   happening is one more because you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/655">TS</a>]

00:10:56   animating them and you are making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/656">TS</a>]

00:10:57   choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/657">TS</a>]

00:10:59   it's kind of like role playing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01   dnd sense where you are assigned a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   character and you have to be a gruff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/663">TS</a>]

00:11:04   dwarf and even if you're not a gruff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/664">TS</a>]

00:11:05   kind of person you feel like well time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   to pretend I'm a graft war right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   that's this character or whatever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   you can get in that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/671">TS</a>]

00:11:12   yeah but I mean that's but this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   a very personal character you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/674">TS</a>]

00:11:15   a person he's making choices he's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   things like and I think of me to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   that the writing and everything was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/679">TS</a>]

00:11:20   really great that eventually you know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/680">TS</a>]

00:11:21   was able to let that go and be like okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/681">TS</a>]

00:11:23   I'm playing as Harry I will Harry that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/683">TS</a>]

00:11:25   what I thought I always kept thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27   was Harry from haha madman like I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29   making carries choices like that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31   I'm doing well I could have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/691">TS</a>]

00:11:32   I version where you got to pick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   gender of the care oh yeah i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/694">TS</a>]

00:11:35   understand they put so much time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/695">TS</a>]

00:11:37   extra stuff more acid so much time into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/697">TS</a>]

00:11:40   the voice actor yeah you don't get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/700">TS</a>]

00:11:41   change what happens in the game because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43   money because yeah but going back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/703">TS</a>]

00:11:46   what you were saying about character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/706">TS</a>]

00:11:47   John because that was that was what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   invention we sort of made me embrace the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/709">TS</a>]

00:11:52   the game as as uncomfortable as I felt a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54   sort of the initial few minutes I it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/714">TS</a>]

00:11:57   reminds me a lot of what i used to do as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/717">TS</a>]

00:12:00   a kid actually as a kid in the woods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/720">TS</a>]

00:12:02   where I would read books on and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04   know you would you you have the book the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   story that's in the book and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08   occasionally you go and you you take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/728">TS</a>]

00:12:11   character out of the book and you say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13   you know like I wonder what would happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   if Luke's got like it looks guy Walker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   was in the middle of the woods I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/737">TS</a>]

00:12:18   what he was decisions you would make I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   want you know when you start it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   like developing a character for your own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   book in and in each like putting some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/744">TS</a>]

00:12:27   your own voice into a predetermined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   character and playing with them outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31   the constraints of a traditional story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/751">TS</a>]

00:12:34   and it's kind of weird way of describing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36   how i felt about this game but but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/756">TS</a>]

00:12:40   some ways it was very much like okay I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42   taking somebody else's character this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   not a character I would have ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/764">TS</a>]

00:12:45   written but as a writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/765">TS</a>]

00:12:47   it was really interesting to me to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/767">TS</a>]

00:12:50   this game and think about that think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   about his decisions in his choices as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54   like I am painting the future of Henry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/774">TS</a>]

00:12:57   the character of you know I have a Harry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/777">TS</a>]

00:13:00   crane in the nineteen eighties as a is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/780">TS</a>]

00:13:03   slightly level slightly doofus in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05   the middle of the woods and part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/785">TS</a>]

00:13:08   is you know how what how would you react [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/788">TS</a>]

00:13:12   but moreover i felt more and more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/792">TS</a>]

00:13:15   this person is not is never going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/795">TS</a>]

00:13:18   me but i can i can roleplay as this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/798">TS</a>]

00:13:22   character you'd like you were saying i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/802">TS</a>]

00:13:24   can i can inhabit this character and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26   play within them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/806">TS</a>]

00:13:27   what makes this game so incredible is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29   that it tricks you into thinking you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/809">TS</a>]

00:13:30   the one that's driving all the action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   because everything is already written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/812">TS</a>]

00:13:34   all the dialogue is already recorded all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36   you're doing is just pushing wasd to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   move around and make everything moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   forward so the fact that the writing can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/820">TS</a>]

00:13:41   suck you into thinking that you are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/821">TS</a>]

00:13:44   actual one cream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/824">TS</a>]

00:13:45   reading this story like a Firewatch was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/825">TS</a>]

00:13:46   a short story or a movie would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/826">TS</a>]

00:13:49   be pretty good but it would be nowhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/829">TS</a>]

00:13:50   near as effective as if you were the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52   actually wandering through the woods and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/832">TS</a>]

00:13:54   digging things up and putting out fires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   and look Skywalker in the woods angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   the the part that is extra difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/838">TS</a>]

00:14:01   about this is when you play as another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/841">TS</a>]

00:14:03   character even and gone home or life is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/843">TS</a>]

00:14:05   strange or something in general the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/845">TS</a>]

00:14:06   protagonist is admirable or heroic or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/846">TS</a>]

00:14:09   even if they make choices you wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11   make it usually because they're more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/851">TS</a>]

00:14:12   brave than you are or you know like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/852">TS</a>]

00:14:15   that there's a hero to the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   whereas right off the bat in this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/857">TS</a>]

00:14:18   the protagonist in the story which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20   are being asked to play you kind of feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22   like I'm better than this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   I mean she not like you just a force you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/864">TS</a>]

00:14:27   to select among bad choices and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29   turn badly and by the time you end up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/869">TS</a>]

00:14:32   that fire watch station you kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/872">TS</a>]

00:14:34   think of this guy you mean I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36   you're in the place the game want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/876">TS</a>]

00:14:37   be like this guy's life is a mess and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/877">TS</a>]

00:14:38   it's his own fault i think you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40   supposed to be like uncomfortable like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/880">TS</a>]

00:14:42   planned very right likelike it'sit's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44   very intentional like bad things happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46   to him and he didn't handle them well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48   and you for what you didn't handle it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50   well because the only two choices you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/890">TS</a>]

00:14:51   ever given all the choices was like bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   and bad again the dog choice was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55   only easy one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/895">TS</a>]

00:14:56   they're at and and really the dog prices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/896">TS</a>]

00:15:00   only easy for us because we're a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/900">TS</a>]

00:15:01   of softies right but someone else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/901">TS</a>]

00:15:02   somewhere is going like obviously picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/902">TS</a>]

00:15:04   the german shepherd but anyway like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/904">TS</a>]

00:15:06   you end up there trying to put you into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/906">TS</a>]

00:15:09   place you're never going to feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/909">TS</a>]

00:15:10   unless you had something like Henry had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/910">TS</a>]

00:15:11   happened to him worse his wife gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13   everything we do is spoil her already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15   I know but there are things were going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   to fire the spoiler off for but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/917">TS</a>]

00:15:20   essentially the prologue of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22   you shouldn't be listening to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/922">TS</a>]

00:15:23   podcast if you want to go into it cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/923">TS</a>]

00:15:26   so i'm not gonna find a spoiler one-off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   I'm just gonna say we're gonna talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/928">TS</a>]

00:15:29   about the setup of the story and feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/929">TS</a>]

00:15:31   free about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/931">TS</a>]

00:15:32   alright so his wife has dementia and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/932">TS</a>]

00:15:35   actually putting home if my status [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   happened to you can never be in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/937">TS</a>]

00:15:38   headspace the closest the game can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40   is to essentially make you participate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/940">TS</a>]

00:15:44   in a series of bad choices leading up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46   him being away from his wife and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48   should feel bad about it because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/948">TS</a>]

00:15:51   know if it was just you don't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/951">TS</a>]

00:15:52   choices you'd say this guy's away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54   his wife and i feel i look down on him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/954">TS</a>]

00:15:57   for that but because you were forced to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/957">TS</a>]

00:15:58   pick left to ride your be a whole bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/958">TS</a>]

00:16:00   of times you have a little bit of I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/960">TS</a>]

00:16:03   bad because I did that and especially on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/963">TS</a>]

00:16:05   the first playthrough you're like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/965">TS</a>]

00:16:08   one of the other choices I didn't pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/968">TS</a>]

00:16:10   would have led to a better dialogue tree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/970">TS</a>]

00:16:11   I mean and and that would have led to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/971">TS</a>]

00:16:14   situation where I don't feel quite as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/974">TS</a>]

00:16:15   bad but that's what they want you to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   once you get into the station they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/977">TS</a>]

00:16:19   you to be disoriented kind of feeling a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/979">TS</a>]

00:16:22   little bit guilty not sure what's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24   still thinking about that whole prologue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/984">TS</a>]

00:16:26   sequence and then being thrust into you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/986">TS</a>]

00:16:29   know Delilah squawking at you over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   radio to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/991">TS</a>]

00:16:32   what's this all about what is also doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/992">TS</a>]

00:16:33   fire right now I i think if it is and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/993">TS</a>]

00:16:37   i assume it is a creative decision to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/997">TS</a>]

00:16:39   make you it uncomfortable and give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/999">TS</a>]

00:16:43   actually some sort of remove from Henry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:46   over you know you're like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   operating him but you're almost like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:49   dissenter while your hot friend you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51   like all right well I'll play this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53   but only under protest because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:55   definitely how I felt and I didn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   a problem with that I felt like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   certainly would have been more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:00   comfortable being shown a prologue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:03   says this guy's messed up and now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:07   get to steer him as opposed to what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:10   Firewatch does which is makes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:11   complicit in his screw-ups that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:13   can't it makes you very uncomfortable at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15   least it made me very uncomfortable to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   have to make all of those bad decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:20   and to not have any choice but to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:23   one bad decision or another I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25   how many people played alone versus with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27   someone nearby when I have someone was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:28   watching me play and they're like whoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:29   this gets heavy fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31   yeah i guess like I mean I kind of knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:34   what the concept of the game was but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:35   was not perhaps emotionally prepared for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:38   what that little prologue was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:39   be like an undergraduate the magic trick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41   is that if you're in the right headspace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:44   once you get there you start to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:47   sort of cognitive dissonance texting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49   like well yeah things are in a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:52   situation but you know I really didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:54   have much of a choice and for people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:56   that situation and then time you've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:57   something about your life very often you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59   say yeah things ended up this way but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:01   it's not like I had that much of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:02   choice like that that if you are in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:04   bad situation like very often it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06   as if at the time you all you had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:09   choice of is a series of bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:10   prices and whichever one you were to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12   pick there was no alternate dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:13   tree you would have always led to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15   situation sort of like to explain your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   own life to yourself that that even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:20   though if you look at my life you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22   feel like you obviously made some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:24   choices you can make better ones for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26   experiencing that time all I ever saw in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:28   front of me were two choices both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:29   which are bad and I tried to pick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:31   least bad one and stone up in a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:32   place um and if you can get into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:35   mindset you can kind of start to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:37   identify because he literally isn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:39   game where you don't you can't you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   get to a situation where you are better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   to your wife and you know the whole nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45   yards right you can't do that but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:48   he's in that fire watch station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   not that he has a chip on his shoulder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:51   but you can kind of tell that he's has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:55   justified somebody's running away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57   it all and like it you know if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   to talk to him if you would have liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:00   free dialogue with Henry and say so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   what's the deal with all that stuff with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:03   your wife and everything would be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05   you know in hindsight I you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:09   seemed like at the time there was no way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:10   out like that any nothing I did was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   right thing to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:13   I think the listening to tiffin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:16   certainly talk about the the the issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:20   with this the another lot of games that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:21   will put women in the been male [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:24   characters with no choice but i wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   because I felt this way to has a man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   playing a male character i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30   intimacy of this story the emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32   connection and what's happening here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:33   inside this person's life makes it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35   harder to to connect then it then just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:41   saying well you know you got a gun in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1181">TS</a>]

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00:19:49   exactly this is this is you you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1189">TS</a>]

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00:19:56   problems in the relationship and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58   this horrendous kind of end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00   relationship them all of that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1200">TS</a>]

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00:20:05   that intimacy i think is the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1205">TS</a>]

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00:21:40   smell to check out their courses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1300">TS</a>]

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00:21:44   get thirty percent off not just for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:45   little while but for the lifetime of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   your account with IT pro TV that's less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   than forty dollars a month for 399 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   the entire year that's IT pro dot TV / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:54   smell and use code smell to try it free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:56   for seven days and save 30-percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58   forever thank you to IT pro TV for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:01   sponsoring the incomparable we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:03   talk a little bit about uh the forest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:07   I think hmm the that is that is a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:11   character in this game as the forest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   your job as the fire watch person is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:17   watch for fires and then you get down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:20   off of the the tower and you run around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22   in the forest and that is most of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:23   game this game is like a forest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   simulator on one level and i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   was what was thinking to myself or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:29   questions and two points I want to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:30   and I'm interested in your thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:31   about and one of them is I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:34   enjoyed running around in the forest and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:36   I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:37   admissions to accomplish in this game so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   it was more than just running around but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:40   honestly I had a moment where I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   you know I could probably just wander [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:43   around in this forest and it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:44   great game for nerds who always think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46   about going hiking but would rather just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:48   sit in front of the computer you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:49   hike in the forest on your computer so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:52   so I don't lose any toes yeah but it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54   I thought that was beautiful and well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56   realized and then the only other thing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:57   want to mention in this in this section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59   I'm curious about is for a game called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01   Firewatch there is literally zero fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:04   watching I kept expecting that it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:06   start with you wandering around on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:09   tower looking out in the forest waiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:12   to see a puff of smoke somewhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14   then radioing it in and you're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   given that opportunity and I'm sure they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:19   have a good reason they want to kick off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:20   the storyline and not bore people but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:22   kind of wanted it to say here's your job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:26   stand here here are some binoculars look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:29   around and do that for a little while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   before something happened or maybe even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33   during the story have it just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:35   totally slow down back to well just go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:38   back to doing your job but I and bug me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   a little bit that at no point does Henry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   do his job like the job of a person in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:46   Firewatch station instead the times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48   presumably when he's doing that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:49   got sort of fade in and out and we never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:51   see them and I kind of wanted that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:52   kind of wanted that boredom and quiet of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:55   staring out of the forest there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   time of that there was a on day three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59   they gave you like a free time where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01   they're like all right well when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:03   ready you talk to me but you know go do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05   what you need to do and you can kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:06   like not engage the story at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:09   and just kind of do what you want i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:11   instantly said ok I'm ready and didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   spend any time wandering around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15   yeah you can totally like way too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:17   time early on the enolate as long as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:19   want and there there little bit too in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:22   the in the middle day is I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   like Dave 30-year day 40 something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:27   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:28   whenever right after you see we do see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:31   the fire in midnight on the June fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:34   there are a couple of a couple of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:37   that the forest exploration aspect is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:40   really eerie to me in some ways so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:45   mean I grew up in the Sierras [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47   in the summers we have a cabin up north [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:50   of Lake Tahoe and granted this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:53   this is not even remotely designed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55   look like the Sierras but it still has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:58   and there's a familiarity up to being in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:01   the absolute wilderness and wandering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03   around and feeling like even with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:06   the the later slightly terrifying things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:09   that happen in this story all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   that will happen behind horn behind this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   from the app behind together and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:17   forest does not feel menacing it we it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:20   first even even in the potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:23   spoiler horny stuff the forest it its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:26   it's this weird like you can be out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:28   the middle of nowhere even in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30   of nowhere game-wise and not be worried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:33   that someone is going to jump out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:34   scream at you I'm not worried that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:37   you're going to stumble and then fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:38   down a ravine I it's all of the all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:41   the things that I remember loving about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43   exploring the forest is a child being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:46   able to run up trails and no like nose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:49   through Brock bushes and hear this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:52   that's very like the the soundscapes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:55   this in this game are so good I I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58   moment where I was running through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1558">TS</a>]

00:25:59   meadow and thinking this is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:01   because at no point is this game going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:03   to make me look down my shoelaces and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:05   hang out all the stickers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:06   yeah or deal with that deal with all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:09   mosquitoes flying or just even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11   another video games and in red dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:13   redemption has all these wonderful like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15   soaring vistas and you'll be looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   around and then like it will be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   like taking in the atmosphere and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:20   you get mauled by a bear or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:22   did you guys find a raccoon yes I heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:25   there was a raccoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:26   yeah it's really cute it's super cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:28   and a picture of him on my camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30   oh well you got a picture i guess so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   earlier before I had the camera i got i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:35   saw him right after i got the camera and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37   I was like well if if nothing else was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   camera moment this is the camera want no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   did anybody get a turtle no well I see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   it on the screen shot page on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   website but i did not get him and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:46   get back get back to what you guys were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48   talking about before and that I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   felt because i'm a gamer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52   a game player compelled to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   next objective for two reasons one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:57   like you know you want to see how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:58   story's gonna go to every time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1618">TS</a>]

00:26:59   realize the story beat you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01   always go what's the next story be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:02   what's the next story beat that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   and the second thing is that like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:07   again being a gamer i had in my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:10   that the day-night cycle was dynamic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:13   scaled as in like you know one hour of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15   game time equals 24 hours of whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17   you know whatever scale was that dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:18   like the clock was running at all times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   when in reality was probably check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   pointed and the like this scene happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   during dusk and you have basically you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26   know like I was afraid I was always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:27   afraid that the Sun would go down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:28   completely and not there would be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   loose condition but that I would that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:33   would miss out on some part of the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35   by being bad at navigation essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   like getting from point A to point B so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:38   at every point in the game I was like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:41   page-turner a novel I was compelled to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:42   go to the next point to the next point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:45   to the next point and I'm with Jason and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:46   that not that I think it would've been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:48   better game with this but just that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   i was looking for in some areas was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:53   like in a longer game there would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55   been more like this like a time when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57   are just sort of hanging out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1677">TS</a>]

00:28:00   woods and sort of taking ownership of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   and i think one of the main reasons they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:03   couldn't do that in this game aside from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   trying to make it tight and make it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:06   know all fit together nicely as again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   budget because the woods although they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   look like woods have to be constructed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:13   as a series of funnels to herd cattle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15   into a certain number of places that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17   lot of it is open but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19   essentially invisible walls made of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:20   brushed some brush you can clear a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:23   of brush you can't some rocks with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   carefully painted white ledges you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:26   go up other boulders are just an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   invisible wall for you and they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:31   do that to corral people through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:32   story of the game whereas if it was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   open-world game like like they had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:37   strike the balance between we want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:38   to feel like this is an entire woods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   that is completely open to you but on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:41   the other hand we do have story beats to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43   head and we do want people to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45   successful to navigate from point A to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:46   point B so we do kind of wanna corral [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:49   you in the right direction again I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:52   it all just comes down to budget and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:53   development time you can't make this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   magical game it's like oh it's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:56   fantasy open-world you can spend as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:58   time as you want to go into your but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1738">TS</a>]

00:28:59   also this type a story that clicks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01   people that they're able to play and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:03   that's that's just something inherent in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05   sort of small independent non big-budget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:08   games and I don't think the game is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   lesser for it because I kind of see all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   the reasons that they chose to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:13   that way but the game just look so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   beautiful that I do wish there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   like a game with 700 times the budget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:20   that was like this but fully realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:23   with no invisible walls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:24   yeah I showed this games my brother i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:25   was watching him play over his shoulder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   and he's a much more quote unquote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29   traditional gamer you know the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31   person shooters and things like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:32   he is the kind of person I realized just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:35   then watching him play this where he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   the person who will play the game based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:40   on where they don't want you to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:41   whereas I'm the kind of game that plays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:43   based on where it be game obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   wants you to go and that makes a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   sense for the story games because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   know there's paths there's a story beats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   that you need to hit there's no dynamic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   lighting that shows ok when you're at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:54   this point you're at dusk at this point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   you're doing this seen things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:57   and he was going all the way over to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59   edge and trying to figure out okay go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01   over this like in Skyrim no okay and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:04   if there is a game with no 700 times the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:07   budget where you could have everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   look at just this beautiful grand theft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11   auto 5 really does not look as beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13   as this but everything is interactable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   that's not a word everything is able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17   be interacted with everything is able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:20   be you can drive around everywhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:21   it doesn't look nearly as good as fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23   watch and when it comes to bang for your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25   buck and most game for your time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:26   Firewatch is a much better game despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:29   you know at what you were saying John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:30   all those invisible walls and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32   things that they need to get in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:33   for the sake of budget but also for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:36   sake of story so but they didn't ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:37   to navigate that's the tricky thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   journey is another example of a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41   small game with not a lot of place and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:43   and journey is definitely following you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:44   the same way with the story beats but no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46   part of journey is it like and navigate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   however you want from point A to point B [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:50   you never on a first playthrough journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:53   ideally you'd never hit invisible wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   and I feel like almost anybody on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:56   first play through fire watches at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58   point could did an invisible wall even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   if it's only just a series of boulders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:01   and trees preventing you from funny a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03   path that's what the forest is like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   was actually impressed that i could go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:06   as many places I could given how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:08   impassable so much i mean it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:10   the invisible walls are visible walls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:13   because it and they treat in the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15   levels in trees and boulders [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:16   about the brush her like a a boulder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   this as high as your shin you could step [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20   over but they make you walk around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:22   you know like it because like you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:23   don't have the budget to try to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   completely passable terrain river you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:26   have to essentially make it passable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:29   area versus non passable all 22 final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   people around but because they give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:32   the freedom it's almost open world like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   they say get back to the tower however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36   you want there's a whole bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:37   alternate paths you don't have to follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:38   the palace that but if you take one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:41   the alternate paths that seems like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42   entirely plausible that all there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   just a little bitch with a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:45   amount of dirt in it and some shin-hye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:47   boulders and trees you can clearly walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:50   between easily it's like no you can't go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:53   that way but sometimes you go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:54   depression it says you know L to clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   brush or whatever it's all I can clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   this brush but i can't clear the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1918">TS</a>]

00:31:59   brush so it it's it's very difficult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:03   I mean it's a challenging thing if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:04   decide to make a game for this budget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:05   for this amount of gameplay and say all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:06   is going to be an overall forest looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   gorgeous from every direction that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10   really hard to do they mean by it looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:11   gorgeous from every direction but it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:13   not quite open world it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   ninety-nine percent open i have one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17   those moments that totally pulled a bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   out of me when I was going to the scout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21   camp and lazily if I approached it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:24   one side there was an invisible wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:25   that just like we just consider when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:28   yeah I couldn't get there and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:29   okay I guess I'll navigate around but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:31   it's like why I'm guessing that one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:34   a bug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:35   yeah I get it done everything the cabins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   from that one side instead of it so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:39   experience that to like how ya doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:41   I like I tried it for a really long like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43   stupid amount of time to really get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:44   know that while i'm like no i know i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:46   get into this is the second time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:47   played i know i'm allowed here for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:50   that moment was towards the end there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52   a really wonderful music moment whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:55   you're supposed to be walking somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:56   the music kicks in and dramatic and bump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58   bump bump and I got a horrific lost and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:02   the music kept playing four maybe five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   or ten minutes while I was trying to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   back to the path is a yeah they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:10   lost all of its momentum after a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:11   like okay yeah this is just background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13   noise now I need to get back on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:14   freaking path I mean journey does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   same thing to die i have experienced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:18   that to brian it was like stop stressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:19   me out music you maybe you made me freak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   out now I don't know where I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   that's the delicate dance between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:24   developer and the player they you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26   to be in harmony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:27   and when you're in harmony everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:28   works but boy if things go off the rails [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:31   and i said i think it is a harder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:32   challenge to get that in this type of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:35   game where it's the woods and it is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   impressively large area a beautiful area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   places you want to go to you like a look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   at that all the way over there oh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:42   know even if you're not compelled to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44   that I could objective you do want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:45   explore I think that leads to more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   people getting hung up on geometry or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   getting disoriented and feeling unfairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:52   they can't get back to the path you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:53   really can totally see it right through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:54   that brush sprite or whatever there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56   one point where they wanted you to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:57   down to the lake to and they even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59   shortened one of the the belaying ropes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:03   so that you couldn't get back up one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:05   the shell slides because they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:06   really wanted you to go to the lake and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:08   it was just like just little tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:10   shortened up and then the next time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12   go see it's long again and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:13   totally climate i'm going to just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15   what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:16   yeah my god i was a little trick but oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   well I make it wouldn't have been that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   big of a deal if you went exploring but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   yeah it's it's interesting to me because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24   i think by and large I actually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26   figured out sort of the the good places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   to go and not good places to go by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   looking at map terrain that map is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32   beautiful and I was trying my hardest to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:35   work on the map without the without why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:38   little GPS dot yeah isn't that nice you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:41   got a paper map that has a that has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43   track around it was a mechanic come over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45   there other people complaining about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:46   hard it like that getting lost and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:49   at us like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:50   I i did not experience well so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52   if you're bad at directions which I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:55   not I'm pretty good with a compass in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   real life but apparently and fire watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:59   all of that goes out the window because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:00   I definitely went someplace being like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:02   I'm going south [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:03   wait no now i'm hitting an impenetrable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:04   wall where to go but when i combine it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:07   with the map it's very easy to see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:10   areas are basically explorable and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:13   areas are just mountain and it was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:16   nice because it gave me clues on sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:19   where to look for the hidden manna still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21   be hidden mickeys butt but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23   some there are some interesting things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25   in the game that i don't know i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:26   necessarily think directly play to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:29   the primary story but you can find by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:32   kind of wondering often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34   and going into little did anybody maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:37   this requires spoilery but anybody find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:40   the burned-out cabin on the outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42   yeah i did not know that yeah so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:46   so that I won't tell you where I won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   tell you where but there is a super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:51   super creepy burned-out cabin and when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53   your radio Delilah about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55   Delilah's silence and you can explore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:58   said cabin but I i ran into that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:01   early on when the game was still very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03   much in its happy-go-lucky phase and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:05   was like oh let's go okay now i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:08   getting a serious missed five what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   going on so but but I didn't I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:13   have found that if i hadn't been paying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:15   such close attention to the map where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:17   they like the darker shades in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:19   lighter shades were for exploring so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21   highly encourage people if you not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:23   finish the game if you're going back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:25   a second playthrough that's a really fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   way of kind of looking through stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:30   they also just released the maps for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2190">TS</a>]

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00:36:36   you can actually print it out and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2196">TS</a>]

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00:37:15   that great thing on his arm with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:16   like the stabby stabby knife at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:19   which is super awesome i've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:20   governor here he's got his eye patch and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22   a gun so straight out of what is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2242">TS</a>]

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00:37:36   scale that's about three and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:38   three-quarters inches tall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:39   they're casting especially formulated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   metallic resin painted by hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2261">TS</a>]

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00:37:51   him now it is very much the risk that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2271">TS</a>]

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00:38:19   being comfortable i really enjoyed how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21   do they didn't just use that as we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:22   talking about the invisible walls to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   guide you but they use the dialogue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26   a lot of times the Lila would say things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:28   to you that kind of would funnel you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:30   around to get you back on track with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   game and I thought that was kind of neat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   that sometimes when you like radio in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   about like a random meadow or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   and she's like why are you over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:39   she's like you're not supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:40   over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:41   you're supposed to be doing your job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:42   like stop fooling around and focus you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   know you really reading about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   utility poles like all these utility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48   poles they used to community and if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:49   can see them you're way off course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51   yeah there's one you could even go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:52   to the what is that called the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:56   trolley that you can only handle islands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:59   Charlie if you go up there really early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:00   she's like oh yeah it's totally closed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:03   unless it's an emergency and they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:04   jokes and they say like it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:06   emergency let me over and always try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:09   throw it it kind of its fun that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   they the dialogue directs you but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:15   kind of build your relationship in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:16   different way if you hadn't found that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18   kind of stuff and you get like more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:19   jokes that they have between each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21   and the guy i think it changes their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:24   relationship a little bit like later on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26   because then they get more their voices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:27   even sound more casual with each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:29   know that the flip side of that is if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:31   you don't communicate with their like my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33   son was playing through this even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:34   it's got lots of curses and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:35   you know yes she gets she has been so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:38   get mad like she because he's you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:41   barbarian preteen boy I was trying i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:44   saying you should use the thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   answer on the radio and he's like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48   would it like that's the game you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   to you know because if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:51   communicate with her if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:53   encourage a series of bad puns if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:55   don't if you when she's going to admit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   that she was drunk when she called you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:59   if you don't engage in a conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:00   she never admits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:01   and that too that you just missed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03   entirely like you you you fail to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05   a relationship so in some ways there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:08   little bit of the game player that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:10   person was playing the game including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12   how the story goes that if only and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:13   much gets revealed i'm assuming by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:15   end of the game she gets all casual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:16   familiar anyway but it's weird to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:19   someone playing the game who isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:21   compelled or this doesn't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23   they're being asked to it is isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:26   trying to exhaust at least one branch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   all the dialogue breeze which i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:29   most game players are you know it's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:32   of like reading a book and getting i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:33   gonna skip this page of dialogues I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:34   you gotta read you gotta play out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36   story you know whichever way it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   go i'm pretty certain it stays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   consistent throughout the game they like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:41   how your relationship bills because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43   don't know did you guys listen to the up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45   up down down with the game developers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:47   haven't yet it's it's very good it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:50   super insightful when it comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52   understanding how the how dynamic the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:54   dialogue really is and how many I audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:57   clips that they recorded in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59   really even pinpoint like okay so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:02   makes this choice and then this choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:03   and that choice and then it then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05   changes with it it changes the outcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:08   of this conversation because if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10   don't tell her something you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:12   she will never know it so she can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:13   bring it up later so and then that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   that changes every single kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:18   the the i guess the the tree that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20   forms with the dialogue and it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:23   change the course of the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:24   it's very very interesting i highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:26   suggest that people who are interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:28   in this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:29   listen to that episode because they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:30   really highlight that a lot and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:33   made me after my first playthrough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:34   really appreciate the depth of dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:37   and the voice acting and what that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:40   this game is really highlighting so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:42   more that's really difficult to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:43   though because many situations even my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45   first playthrough I got the dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   thing a little bit confused about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   timing of like oh she would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   realized she just told me that and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   she's telling me the same thing in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:54   different context you know like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   that it's been so very difficult to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   it all seem naturalistic and again when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   everything is working and when I went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:01   person playing the game makes some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   semblance of the obvious choices and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05   times things in the appropriate ways but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   it's very easy for it's very easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09   break the game by doing with you no they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:11   want to do even if you're not that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:12   of player I mean I like this game a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:15   but they're all these places where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:16   can kind of see the seams and that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:18   don't like that and and i think i'm part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   of my eye I don't know if i will replay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   this because in some ways I feel like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   I replay it i will just see more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   those and that will just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:27   diminish my my enjoyment and especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   yeah i mean because I mean I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:32   without having played it without having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   gone and sought out the answer it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:35   because I don't totally want to know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:37   I mean I assume there's lots of choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:39   you make that or you know almost all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41   choices you make really don't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:43   well I played I to to counter that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   a second like I played it differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   each time i played it twice and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   first time I made one set of decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51   in the second time I made a second set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   and I feel like I it followed me through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   the game in a similar way but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   relationship with Delilah was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:59   bit different and I think that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:02   what is is highlighted here you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   what I mean it's not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:05   drastically change the outcome of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   game or anything but your relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   with this person and I guess feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:11   how you feel about the character that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:13   your body yeah would change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:16   I'm just I i played uh other games by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:19   the same writing team and there are lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   of places where it's like you realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   after the fact that they're kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:24   they're false choices and like they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:27   feel powerful and motivating at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:30   but then when you kind of see later that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32   like it didn't matter that kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   the magic trick is undone and your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:35   robbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:36   that's kind of the gamers mindset though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38   greater like well it doesn't change the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   ending like the only thing that matters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:41   is like at the end of the game what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   happens to the aliens winter they lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45   to do the world ball operators I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47   lapa cheers and ire does your son live i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49   didn't get the part of fire watch where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:50   there were aliens John right now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:52   that's what people mean when they talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:53   about the taste like whether they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   like oh it doesn't matter what you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:56   the ending is always the same but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58   if says is true in a game like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:01   the plot points of like who did what and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:04   what turns out to be the mystery is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06   entirely what this game is about and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:09   you go to the game with it with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:10   different series of choices and you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:11   at the end of it that you have a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13   different relationship with the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:14   the other certain non-player character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   in the game that is at least fifty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   percent of the game but every review of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:19   it everyone who plays it will always say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21   oh well it doesn't really matter it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   the same ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:24   it really the same ending like no you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   know it mean plot-wise it is but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28   again with it i think it's a mindset of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   when reviewing games that that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32   always think about it in her because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34   games can do this thing where like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:35   have drastically different endings you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   can have those type of games which again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:38   for watching us from the very beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40   we are not that type of game there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42   a series of choices you're gonna make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:43   they're gonna make this person live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   this person died or whatever like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:46   well not gonna pick on that specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   example this the the writers for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   worked on the walking dead games right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52   and they're all these places where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:53   like someone's in mortal danger and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55   have basically a choice of like try and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57   help them or leave them to die and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:00   what's kind of rough is that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   lot of times with like you try to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:03   them and you were unsuccessful and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:05   die vs you leave them and you see them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07   die and you know you can feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09   differently about it into the end like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11   well he's not trying to save them versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:12   i was i I mean you feel differently and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:15   about the person you are but it's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:16   like you then see when you realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:19   choice didn't you know you you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   didn't have any control that's what now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:23   you know that's where you see the seam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:25   and you're like a it's advisor how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:27   control do I have the world that I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29   oh how much control do I have this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   versus is the story just being told to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   be I guess I'm gonna be late for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:34   meeting room time travel movies you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36   that if you actually have a legitimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38   choices it does not take long until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   are essentially creating an entire world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:42   of possibilities within your tiny little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:43   game it's like that you know that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   the you know unescapable math of tree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:48   branching means there and there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:50   games that do that which is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   impressive money you have to do it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54   you have to do it is in the big points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   because you can make it so all you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:57   is definitely feel satisfied like wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   there are you up or didn't that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:00   two branches right but people will think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02   all it's a significant change these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04   series of of you know but it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06   it's a tree that comes back in on itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08   and ends up with two or three different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:09   endings whereas you related to play out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:11   naturally you start out with in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   position and then up with like 700,000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:16   endings and that is untenable but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:18   is the natural consequences of real life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20   in a game that has a branching structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   yeah you branch out but you have to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   back into have five possible ending 25 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:27   minutes but not a million endings not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29   the power of 65 and things right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:30   know me and that's what that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   realistically would be like I like when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34   the game gave you one choice at certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:36   points and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:37   had to click that one choice you have on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   and I mean like I feel like that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   forcing you to own that choice and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   become that choice in that character you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   know and I I thought that was a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:48   touch that that even though it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:51   you know your choice and it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:52   making the trainee broader and it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:54   like making a dynamic are giving you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:55   better option [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:56   it was still making you click that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:59   by clicking it you're like okay as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:01   this character i'm making this choice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03   say this or not say this or do this or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05   not do this but you're doing it you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:07   to click it so that anyways you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09   complicit now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:10   yeah well think about games like journey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:13   and gone home where there is no choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:14   where everything that happens you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16   controlling it but there is a single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:18   linear path and I don't think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   any diminishing returns between having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   several different options are several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   different endings or tree branches or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26   whatever versus just having one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28   narrative experience that is fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   even the first time and then you go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   and even if you can see the seams as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34   go back as you make the same decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   are different decisions and no decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   because there's only one narrative path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   I feel like there's no like I I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:43   not call this a better game because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45   there's extra options [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:46   regardless of whether or not those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48   options really affect anything in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50   of plots isn't a whole psychological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:52   thing that if you have more choices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:53   you're less happy with your outcome i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:57   think in the character driven game like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59   this that what you really want is I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:01   like the idea that the plot is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:03   gonna go as it's going to go but your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:04   relationship is going to be impacted by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   the choices you make your relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/2886">TS</a>]

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00:52:53   strands we've got the we see a figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3173">TS</a>]

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00:52:58   into the to the to the the tower we find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:03   the backpack full of ropes that's from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05   the kid we learn about Brian and and Ned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3185">TS</a>]

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00:53:17   down her firing off fireworks and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3197">TS</a>]

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00:53:28   radios and there's a whole fenced-off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3208">TS</a>]

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00:54:51   looking at me and then he's gone is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53   creepy or is that just how life is out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55   in the woods and then the other one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57   the is is that people who are out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3297">TS</a>]

00:55:00   civilization sometimes behave strangely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02   because they get to do whatever they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:05   want because they're outside of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:06   civilization and that's what the girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08   at the girls at the at the lake are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:11   doing and so I like those two elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:13   happen right away because you know those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:17   it's a good introduction to the plot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:20   have have those two things and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:22   also said you wanted because you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:23   you're an authority figure 11 on the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:26   hand but on the other hand maybe they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:27   creepy things going on and when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:30   cabin gets broken into you've got two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:31   suspects [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:32   so you're already kind of like not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   about what's happening and that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36   that's what propels the story I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:37   it's an interesting choice for me there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:39   were two things going on about like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41   plot and the way that the game unrolled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43   it one there were so many red herrings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:45   oh my god the entire kill many red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47   herring central and I feel like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:50   impact berries at the end of the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:51   when you realize how relatively tame the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:54   actual events are I mean there's no like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:57   big grand conspiracy is just a Ned being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3357">TS</a>]

00:56:00   a creep and being lonely and regretting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:03   his son's death and the fact that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05   is all that there is at the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07   game really i mean not all like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:11   that's not a super impactful moment but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:13   there's still something there where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:14   like we spend the entire game freaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:17   out about government agencies and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:20   two girls that we don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:21   understand in some creepy person with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23   light like it ends up being something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:24   that's much more down-to-earth that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:26   the word I'm looking for down to earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   than any of the other crazy things are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:30   you thinking about during the game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:32   second i feel like the whole game i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:34   trying to figure out what the rules of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:35   the game were whether or not we would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37   see other people whether or not no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39   Delilah was even real they to spell that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41   but there is a moment i was thinking are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   we going to see any other creatures are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45   going to see anything move and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:47   trying to extrapolate where the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:48   would go based on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50   and at the end we don't meet Delilah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:53   only ever see one other actual human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:56   person at the very end he brings you in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:57   to the chopper and we see what a deer at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:00   the very beginning but that's it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02   terms of other playable characters and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:04   thought is it that's budget for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:06   everything you just described costs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:07   money you're gonna animate the Lyle I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:08   knew you'd never seen a lot of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:10   because that would take this time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:12   money you barely even see yourself you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:13   see a very few animals like its I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:16   is the harsh reality of game development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18   is that all those things you described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20   you essentially have to design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:21   especially game like this that looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:22   just amazing like this clear all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   money went right that's what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26   wilderness is like you can you can ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:27   for a day and see nothing except that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:30   why I good premise you have to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:31   like we have a limited budget for a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:32   and we have this ambition to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34   beautiful forest that means lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:37   interaction with people no lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:39   animals running around know like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41   right so can we design a story where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:43   those become assets and I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   heart of the story in the central part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:46   is kind of like not gaslighting entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:49   but what they want you to do is realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   that you're messed up and they want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   to doubt yourself and Delilah encourages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   you in this of like thinking that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57   know they want you to think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:59   unreliable narrator did I break these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:01   girls camps in a sequence that I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:02   able to control during the plane did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:05   set that fire like because people doubt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07   you and you try to defend yourself with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09   them is playing the game like well maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:11   that wasn't me or maybe is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:13   conspiracy might just going nuts out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:14   here in the woods because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:15   something that happens right when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:16   on the woods to start going a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:17   stir-crazy you start assuming things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   that are happening which is the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   core of the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:22   yeah and people come out here and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24   you know they're not able to handle it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26   and it you know this is a type of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:27   to drive to play and type game like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29   can go and one of the directors you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:30   go whole hog you can do like a eternal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:33   darkness type thing where that becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:34   game mechanic and you know the fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:38   off the trying to maintain your sanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   or doubting what you see are not being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:42   able to trust what actually happens in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:44   the game and it just gets you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:46   just it starts off like oh you're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:47   fire watching by the end of the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:48   like there could be aliens falling out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:50   of the sky and everything can't fire you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:52   wake up and you know or making all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:54   direction this game did which is try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:56   lead you in that direction and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3536">TS</a>]

00:58:57   it might only because I was like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   care what they say about Henry I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:00   to control i'm gonna say Henry keep it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:02   you are not going nuts you probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   didn't kill those girls I'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06   hoping that's not what you did because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:07   feel like that's not the kind of guy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:08   are Henry and just keep it together in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:11   the end yet in the end it turns out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   be a prosaic explanation and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:16   that is exactly what they wanted from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:17   this game and that he goes this place to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:19   escape and in some ways the fantasy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:22   I've come to this place and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:25   government conspiracy and people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:27   watching me and who knows what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:28   on in this also seekers these woods that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:31   would be quite an escape from your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:32   real-life situation but in the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:34   wherever you go there you are there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3574">TS</a>]

00:59:35   not a government conspiracies just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:36   person you connected with over long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38   distance from your watchtower and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:40   end you got to get back on a chopper and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:42   go back to civilization a place in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:44   same expectations has gone home where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:45   you're expecting you're playing a game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:47   it there should be something there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:48   that's no really really weird how the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:50   ordinary look at government conspiracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:52   and no it's just this where the occult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54   or something yeah it's just like nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:56   it's simpler than that but the theme of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:58   the theme of our watches that you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   the theme of our watches that you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   growing those words to escape your life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   the whole idea like that it takes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:04   escape away from here to say you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:07   that this character has come here to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:08   away from all these things that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:10   doesn't want to think about and wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12   it be nice if there was this amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:13   adventure conspiracy to make him forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:15   about all that become the hero of a new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:16   story but that's not the way it works in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:19   real life whereas and gone home you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21   start thinking like oh is it you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23   that they're going to be ghosts in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:24   kitchen am I gonna you know like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:26   bathtub with the red hair dye and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:28   everything and that is what goes beyond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30   home is mostly subverting your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:31   expectations of game player this I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:33   like is subverting the expectations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35   the character within the game because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:36   the character within the game took this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:38   job to get away and the character within [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:41   the game would be entirely susceptible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:44   to getting all wrapped up into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:46   thing like who wouldn't and most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3646">TS</a>]

01:00:48   would because it's an exciting adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:49   but him even more so you know getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:51   wrapped up with Delilah and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   things that are going on the mysteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:55   of the woods and I think the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:56   in the game we'd be just as disappointed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:58   as a lot of game players are the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:00   you realize though it was all just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:01   normal stuff and I got to get on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03   chopper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:03   well did everyone get on the chopper oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:05   yeah you can ya do not know you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:07   decide to go on tumblr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:09   that's a bad choice and presently that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:11   the whole thing right the the weirdo in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:13   the root woods is like oh here you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15   have my bunker enjoy it right so you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   like decided not to go under and ya go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:20   live in his creepy bunker or burn for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:23   burn them yeah which is yeah equality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25   mukhtar Lucius yeah yeah I do not burn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:29   to death so somebody so explain this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:31   because of the war my problems with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   with this guy i like the idea that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:36   you get caught up in all of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:37   but it turns out the the that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:39   as big story as you think i like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:42   but there is a moment or a short series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:45   of moments late in this game where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:48   get the radio thing this is oh they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:49   found the girls they're fine which takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:52   up this whole like what happened to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:54   girls did they did they leave they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3714">TS</a>]

01:01:56   this they get killed what happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58   them you you get the end it's like up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00   forgetting are we gonna get in trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:01   for not exactly bit of it there was some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   panic about the girls and in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05   of the game and yeah I kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:06   wrapped it up for you but then it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08   literally it's just like oh they found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10   the girls are fine right all right is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12   not home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   what happens if that's the way we like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:14   you're doing delilah or inventing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:16   this possible drama in the ways it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:18   lot of like you know summer summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20   vacation where you go off and have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:21   summer adventure to seem so important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:23   but in hindsight like nothing really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:24   happened it's just you and allow you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3744">TS</a>]

01:02:26   have no outside input other than what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:27   she said she's communicating like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:29   really is no voltage from the outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3749">TS</a>]

01:02:31   world so you can spend days going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:32   and forth like where are those girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   sure you didn't do anything do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:36   believe me I know you believe but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:37   nothing is happening there's no new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:38   information available here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:40   you're just spinning out this tale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:42   amongst yourself because you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:43   nothing else to do in the woods yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:44   you're both like the dialogue get your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46   like both kind of camping each other up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:47   about what's going on like there's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:49   point that she's panicking and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:50   like calm down it's okay like we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3770">TS</a>]

01:02:52   gonna figure this out and then there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:53   another point that you're like are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:54   even real who are you what's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56   am I talking to myself and then I can i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58   peek of that they're they're suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00   afraid to talk about anything because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:02   they're being listened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:03   right and and I'm not that work nicely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:05   and and that's that that's the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:06   mean that that's a it's just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:07   funny that it that it's just punctured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09   so quickly but that the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:12   I've never even heard of this place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:14   there's a killer to clipboard you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:15   being listened to there's a government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:17   thing with a chain-link fence we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:19   know what it is we've never seen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:20   before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:21   I'm gonna go break into it they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:24   you no records of our conversations oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   and now it's on fire somebody explain to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:29   me what the story is with you without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:33   just know it's it's it's just a research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:35   station except Ned has planted things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:37   there to confuse you so he he's made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:39   seem like they're spying on you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:41   with everything he's got his little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:43   typewriter and he's he's making fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:45   virus was found a little that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:47   little weak but he didn't make it even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:49   if you look at their he didn't make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51   many reports like if not report this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:52   one-page like he's not he's not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:54   very good faking it because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:56   caught up in the game you're like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3836">TS</a>]

01:03:57   this is stationed in this weird stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   and his BP things looks like city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:00   17-year I'm respecting it don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:02   come out and attack me two seconds but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3842">TS</a>]

01:04:04   and presumably he starts the fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:06   yeah but you realize if you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:08   what's there it's like it's like three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:10   typewritten sheets of paper with radio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:12   interceptor always in relation with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:14   boring science stuff that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:15   understand right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:17   and generally found like that put that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:18   point of os just some crazy guy in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:20   woods he's listening to in writing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:22   fake reports like I found that a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:23   strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:25   and weak have a I don't know a guiding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:28   force through the game it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:29   building up all this like interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:31   stuff the tapping and you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:33   around exploring after get the ax you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:34   have to do this you have to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:36   you're walking all over the place and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:37   then all of a sudden it's like oh we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:39   found it was just like this crazy guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:40   making like making stuff up like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:43   like why would he do with the crazy guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:45   do that i would much rather the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:46   government research have had like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:48   break into it and you go down there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:50   as you're leaving like a government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:51   scientists is like dude what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53   doing you know and but punctures your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:57   your paranoia about it mom that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3897">TS</a>]

01:05:00   have felt more reasonable to me this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02   so such a kind of arcane collection of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:04   things that have been all constructed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:06   together and it's all in the mind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:08   crazy you know dad if the dead kid who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:11   lives in his Shack or in his cave and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:14   don't know it seemed it seemed a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:15   a little too much to me too i I'd almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:17   rather have had it just being been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19   revealed that the government research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:20   station is a yeah a government research [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:23   station yeah they're just like had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:24   taking soil samples were just doing our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:25   job here did you feel down here guy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:28   you're totally a weirdo thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3928">TS</a>]

01:05:30   breaking our lock i guess i got a spare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:31   i can put on it but come on I am so when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:34   you say with you you would not happen at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:36   all though you wanted that pressure let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:38   out of that little part there instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:39   kept hanging for too long it would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:41   been nice if Ned didn't like plant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:43   evidence you know I mean like sure if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:45   you some creepy guy lift listening in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:47   the radio conversations and like kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:49   you know scaring you here and there by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51   like coughing or whatever you find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:53   but and planting it in the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3953">TS</a>]

01:05:55   section it's like a little crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3955">TS</a>]

01:05:57   mastermind ploy to tour and yet so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3957">TS</a>]

01:06:00   like that why would you know I i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:03   accept a certain amount of the crazy guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:05   out in the woods but that seemed awfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:08   detailed of a plot to I don't know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:13   just seems like it I it took me out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:15   the game because it seemed to like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:17   little bit too much coincidence trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:20   to tie those things together i'd almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:21   rather they had remained they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3981">TS</a>]

01:06:23   untied and it just had been our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:25   imagination completely separate from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:27   this crazy guy who was in the woods send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3987">TS</a>]

01:06:30   us down we got so paranoid that we went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:31   down this other path I don't think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:33   needed to be involved I don't think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:34   needs to have a fire and be destroyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:37   and all of those things that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:38   seemed the idea that I was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:40   disappointed in like his final message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:42   that he leads leaves you because it kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:44   of like it didn't feel like it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46   consistent with this person right like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:49   mean are they grieving or they totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:51   crazy but they're trying to manipulate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:52   you but they're gonna leave you a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:54   goodbye message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:55   yeah I guess you found the body now I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:56   gonna go deeper into the woods but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:58   can have my cave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:00   yeah and i think the starry overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:02   would have worked might work better if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:03   there was instead of being adults if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4023">TS</a>]

01:07:05   was young kids because again the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:07   thing kind of reminds me of like this x [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:08   like summer camp where you will spin out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:11   this old world of what's going on at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:12   summer camp in the creepy cabin in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:13   reality nothing is going on anywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:15   just a cabin is not currently being used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:16   because they didn't get enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:18   registrations for camp this year but as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:19   a kid especially a preteen can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:22   spin it out into this whole yeah sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24   adventure that's going on and in the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:27   in the end they will be a boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:28   explanation may be that you won't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:30   founder maybe when you find it you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4050">TS</a>]

01:07:31   rejected and always remember that as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:33   summer of the Haunted camp and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4053">TS</a>]

01:07:35   midnight XD escapades or whatever I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:37   what if it had been instead of crazy old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4057">TS</a>]

01:07:38   guy being there for three years what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:40   it had been the Sun was living out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:42   for a couple months because he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44   know what to do because his dad died but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:45   I'm saying like if the player characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:47   in the game like it Delilah and you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:48   you know we're young children instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:50   because young kids get caught up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:51   these types of stories all the time as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:52   an adult what you would hope is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:54   adults would see what's going on is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:56   prosaic and then like Jason saying is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4076">TS</a>]

01:07:59   basically to get wrapped up and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:01   think the game is leading up to become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:02   grants some grand conspiracy and then to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:04   find out it's just like you said one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:05   maniac too far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:07   that seems like something that as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:10   adult you feel like you wouldn't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:12   wouldn't fall for either you either it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:13   gonna be unreliable narrator and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:15   turns out that the nothing you've done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:17   and seen can be trusted because this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4097">TS</a>]

01:08:18   is really damaged and that could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:20   entirely different game but if it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4100">TS</a>]

01:08:21   this game is essentially reliable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:23   narrator everything you see exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:24   happens exactly the way it does and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:26   can argue with I'll about it but in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4106">TS</a>]

01:08:27   end it's just a series of normal events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:29   it does seem kind of anti climactic to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:32   to have a turn out to be as simple and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4112">TS</a>]

01:08:36   straightforward as as the the story is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:38   disagree because i feel like in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:41   moment as you're playing the game you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:43   been there for three hours you discover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:44   the government facility they're set on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:46   fire things are going crazy and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:48   wondering what the heck is going on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:50   then you figure out that it's entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:51   Ned and when you figure that out that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:54   Ned the force is burning up around you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4134">TS</a>]

01:08:56   you found a whole cavern you're freaked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:58   out because you're led to another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:00   tracking area it says for Henry go up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:03   and you're freaking out and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4143">TS</a>]

01:09:04   thinking about what you need to do next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:06   and you need to get through to delilahs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:09   lookouts and get in the chopper for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:11   when I went to his cabin for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:12   time I barely looked around I looked at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4152">TS</a>]

01:09:15   a few things and sprint it out because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:16   was terrified of the fire and to me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4156">TS</a>]

01:09:20   made everything else in the game take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:21   backseat to your relationship with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23   Delilah and that was just the last nail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:25   in the coffin for like this game is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:28   about you and Delilah and nothing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:30   any of the red herrings because you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4170">TS</a>]

01:09:32   right everything else that happens with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4172">TS</a>]

01:09:33   Ned and brian is relatively tame so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:36   feel like instead of saying it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:38   anticlimactic for that one magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:40   perfect playthrough you have at the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:41   beginning it works perfectly because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:44   discover that you run over and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:47   last moments of the game are when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:49   talk to the lila on the headset in her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:51   lookout and that is where the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:53   signature of the game leaves its mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4193">TS</a>]

01:09:55   and says hey this is your emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4195">TS</a>]

01:09:57   wreck right now because of everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:59   else now here we are sitting and talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:02   about how how not problematic how tame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4202">TS</a>]

01:10:05   it was and i agree i feel like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:07   could be much more done to paint Ned as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:09   this crazy guy maybe a more sinister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:12   last thing instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:13   yeah I ran out books but there could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4213">TS</a>]

01:10:15   have been more there but I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4215">TS</a>]

01:10:16   instead of going in the direction of tie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:18   everything together more if there could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:20   be more in the direction of let's make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:22   net a crazier character and let the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:24   chips fall where they may because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:25   know what that's like maybe someone in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:27   the woods is actually doing something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:28   screw with you and make your summer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4228">TS</a>]

01:10:31   miserable i don't know but either way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4231">TS</a>]

01:10:32   that's life and for me that makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4232">TS</a>]

01:10:34   Delilah's relationship all the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:36   important in the game because we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:38   going from the game is that they want it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:40   to be that they want you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4240">TS</a>]

01:10:42   the game is about going to escape and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4242">TS</a>]

01:10:44   realizing there is no escape that from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:46   yourself and from you your issues and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4246">TS</a>]

01:10:47   problems that like allowed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:48   relationship allows a similar way like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:50   they're not particularly subtle subtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:51   about it and they realize that most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:53   people playing the game trying as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:56   as they can to try to make Henry make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:58   better choices are going to as i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4258">TS</a>]

01:11:00   when i play resist the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:02   suddenly there's going two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:03   anything romantic between you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4263">TS</a>]

01:11:04   Delilah because you're still married and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4264">TS</a>]

01:11:06   you should still care about your wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4266">TS</a>]

01:11:08   and like when they have you leaving the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:09   cabin they have your wedding ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:10   strategically place but the door and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:12   choose to put on or not like it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:14   hits you over the head but it's clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4274">TS</a>]

01:11:15   they want you two to think about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:17   issues and and make choices and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4277">TS</a>]

01:11:21   like I don't you know I you and I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4281">TS</a>]

01:11:22   say that that is the the overall it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24   it's a strange is a strange game to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:27   that kind of message the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:28   people have problems in their life and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:33   lot of times it seems like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:34   escape with them through some other kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4294">TS</a>]

01:11:36   of adventure but in the end you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:38   come back and face them and no matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:40   what you do you're gonna find yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:41   in an empty cabin talking to Delilah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:44   over her own headset and she's gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:46   right and he and you know you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:49   what you have to do is go back to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:50   wife and that i think was the game is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:53   trying to get so if if there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4313">TS</a>]

01:11:55   something exciting and consequential [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:56   like you busted this big conspiracy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:58   found out the earth is hollow and filled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:00   with more locks like that whoa that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:02   the knot the game they were making at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4322">TS</a>]

01:12:04   all like that would be like this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:06   great in the beginning I was sad because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:08   my wife was i but I set my wife back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:10   Australia or whatever but now this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:11   great i'm saving the world's reserves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:13   conspiracy is a lot of games you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:15   murder Morlocks we don't need any more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4335">TS</a>]

01:12:16   of those right there are discovered them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:18   or any kind of you like it has to be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4338">TS</a>]

01:12:20   has to be a story that like that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4340">TS</a>]

01:12:24   you know that there isn't some big grand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:26   thing that you are doing we got to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:27   particularly heroic or save the day or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4347">TS</a>]

01:12:29   anything like that it has to lead you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:31   back to yourself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:32   no I like the the thing that I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:35   is really the culmination of this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:37   is when you have to go down in the cave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:38   and you find the dead body and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4358">TS</a>]

01:12:41   reveals that is what unravels the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:44   and so that's that's your crowning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:45   moment is this really sad thing where is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4365">TS</a>]

01:12:49   this kid fell and died and did he fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4369">TS</a>]

01:12:53   well yes yes he fell John that I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:56   think the game mostly leave that open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:58   yeah I suppose but there's ways we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:00   use on we he fell how he fell remains to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:03   be seen but he fell a long way I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4383">TS</a>]

01:13:05   it's a little too well stage for it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:08   be a fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:08   I don't like the rocks are covering his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:10   header but I do leave it open i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:11   because you know medical crazy from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:13   loss of his son or like I mean that his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:16   son also said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4396">TS</a>]

01:13:17   and like climbing so maybe his dad was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:19   forcing them to climb over like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:20   doesn't really matter in the end that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4400">TS</a>]

01:13:22   not a key plot point in the game but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4402">TS</a>]

01:13:24   do i do feel like that is a court moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:26   because you know I when I going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:27   the cave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4407">TS</a>]

01:13:28   I realized that the Sun was probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:30   dead down there just because I played a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:32   lot of games right a lot of stories but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:33   even saying you even saying there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:35   there you see that she was a shoot you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:37   again as a lot again heavily Telegraph [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:40   but even even knowing that and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:41   having accepted that from early on i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:43   still found it affecting when I on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:44   bottom music cue starts up then and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4424">TS</a>]

01:13:47   a it's a very it and you do feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4427">TS</a>]

01:13:49   you discovered even though obviously you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4429">TS</a>]

01:13:51   can led to this point through a series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4431">TS</a>]

01:13:53   of things that you basically have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4433">TS</a>]

01:13:54   choice in a felt very very nervous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4434">TS</a>]

01:13:56   stepping over the body like that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:58   only option down there and I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4438">TS</a>]

01:14:00   three I felt really weird and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:02   uncomfortable and that way like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:05   at that point like I wanted to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:06   conversation with Delilah and you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4446">TS</a>]

01:14:08   to get out of the cave before you can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4448">TS</a>]

01:14:10   that yeah that yeah you could also be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:12   real bastard to her like after that if i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4452">TS</a>]

01:14:16   accidentally was and that changes your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:18   relationship with her a time you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:20   be like well it's totally your fault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:22   because you didn't radio this in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:25   she's like what how dare you say that to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:27   me like she gets pissed and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:28   everything's kind of ruined after that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4468">TS</a>]

01:14:30   little bit but i did that by accident it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4470">TS</a>]

01:14:32   wasn't my fault but yeah it totally did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:35   anyone everyone was probably really nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:38   we're not monsters yes I'm obviously a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:40   monster it was an accident i was playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4480">TS</a>]

01:14:42   on the on the playstation and the button [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:45   it was dark i don't know you want two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4485">TS</a>]

01:14:46   people want to talk about the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:48   my understanding is that if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:49   playing on the computer you get to take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4489">TS</a>]

01:14:51   pictures and have the whole help to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:53   end in that you can have them print them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:56   out and send them to you later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4496">TS</a>]

01:14:58   yeah i thought that was a really fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:00   touch i kept having these moments where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:01   I thought oh I gotta take a picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:03   this which I just thought was all a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:05   of fun to to have that as a mechanic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:07   in the game that is pointless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:09   it has nothing to do with anything it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:11   just you're taking pictures of your stay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4511">TS</a>]

01:15:15   in the wilderness on this camera i used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:17   it to document what i considered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:19   evidence so I went into pictures of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:22   side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:23   I just I took a photo of his crazy wall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:26   before we left the lookout station for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:28   the last time yeah me too but may I took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4528">TS</a>]

01:15:30   photos of you know I I knew it was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4530">TS</a>]

01:15:33   to be saving my photos so i took [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4533">TS</a>]

01:15:34   beautiful nature photography and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:36   got to the end of the game and realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4536">TS</a>]

01:15:37   that if you play it on the PlayStation 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:39   you don't get to get prints of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:41   photos oh I really hope they add that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:43   because i took some awesome pictures can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:45   you share them on the way you're getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:47   that you can't even see it on about man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4547">TS</a>]

01:15:49   that's too bad it's like when you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:51   John when you get the credit they show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:52   you the pictures that you tip yep that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:54   all I know they came out good yeah they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4554">TS</a>]

01:15:55   should they do show your pictures but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4555">TS</a>]

01:15:56   you don't get the web the URL you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4556">TS</a>]

01:15:58   to and you don't get to order prints i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:00   always did it the first time I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:01   get to do that so I played it again on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4561">TS</a>]

01:16:03   steam and it was iight i started playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4563">TS</a>]

01:16:05   my second place endurance team to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:06   I can make up for that i found the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:08   gameplay even better on steam actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4568">TS</a>]

01:16:10   then with the controller on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:11   PlayStation of course the I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:13   the nice touch in the disposable camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:16   is that it belonged to brian and brian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:20   and and so as you go back you see all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:23   the pictures that you took and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:24   see the pictures that he took yep yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:26   it's a nice thats that's that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4586">TS</a>]

01:16:29   your last little punch that you get as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4589">TS</a>]

01:16:31   you forgot that too is also internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4591">TS</a>]

01:16:32   using the Sun yeah I want to ask anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:36   else in the very very beginning when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4596">TS</a>]

01:16:37   first get into the woods like after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:39   you've kind of established our base and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:41   you're walking around there's a spot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:43   where you can hear wind chimes and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:45   drove me crazy i couldn't find them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4605">TS</a>]

01:16:48   anywhere and then at the very end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4608">TS</a>]

01:16:50   game you hear the wind chimes in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4610">TS</a>]

01:16:52   know the crazy guys hang out Ned right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:54   that's his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:55   whose banana guys know that created you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:58   hear the wind chimes where he has like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4618">TS</a>]

01:16:59   that lawn chair on his little like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:01   know vista terrace that he made and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:04   figured out that the wind chimes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4624">TS</a>]

01:17:07   hear when you're in the woods have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4627">TS</a>]

01:17:08   those right yeah it'sit's uh according [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:10   to the reddit post about it whenever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4630">TS</a>]

01:17:13   go below his window in the game you hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:17   this faint chime and then you don't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:19   to it until the end I thought that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:21   really nice touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:22   I know because its overall fall out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:24   where they make it like it's just if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:26   happen to find that I out on day one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4646">TS</a>]

01:17:28   the game is over because that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:30   the title again a different type of game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:31   that can be fun for starting out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:33   people but it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:34   requires a bigger budget and some people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:35   find not fun so uh let's listen in while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:38   wrapping up here i would like to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4658">TS</a>]

01:17:40   your final sort of final judgments final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:43   verdict on fire watch as a whole and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4663">TS</a>]

01:17:46   you how you how you view it overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4666">TS</a>]

01:17:49   everybody's been pretty positive but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4669">TS</a>]

01:17:51   want to check in with everybody and get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:52   a get a closing remark Tony what's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:55   thought about Firewatch overall I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:57   generally positive i enjoyed it i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4677">TS</a>]

01:17:59   recommend it to people especially if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:01   they liked other story games like gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:03   home for the walking dead games or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:06   things like that i mean i think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4686">TS</a>]

01:18:07   are a lot of gamers out there who seemed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:09   to really hate those games and be angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:11   that they exist which is a not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:16   I don't know it's sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:17   there are so many existence of this key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:20   does not hurt you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:21   there are a thousand games where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:23   be a space marine the existence of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4703">TS</a>]

01:18:25   same does not mean one less space marine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:27   game there's still more space brain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:29   games and you can never play so yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:32   enjoyed it i'm always looking for more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4712">TS</a>]

01:18:34   good story games out there Brian what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:37   are your final thoughts any more games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:40   just like Tony said where I can have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:42   non-gamer friend over and like get a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:45   beers and play through a game like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4725">TS</a>]

01:18:47   would play or watch a movie with them i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:49   am 100-percent sold this game to me at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:51   least is worth getting a ps4 or making [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:54   sure you have a good mac to play cuz my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4734">TS</a>]

01:18:57   2012 mac pro macbook pro did not i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4737">TS</a>]

01:19:02   this very well at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4742">TS</a>]

01:19:04   yeah my 5k imac did just fine so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:07   having my 2011 macbook pro had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:10   exciting framerate issues but it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:12   made it through that was its good friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4752">TS</a>]

01:19:14   what are your final thoughts on fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:16   watch I thought it was incredibly moving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4756">TS</a>]

01:19:20   despite its in like little flaws I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:23   have the same sort of overwhelming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:25   missed feels that I've had with other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4765">TS</a>]

01:19:27   games like this with games like got home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4767">TS</a>]

01:19:29   I did I will admit I had to spoil myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4769">TS</a>]

01:19:32   somewhat as soon as I as soon as i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:36   knocked out i had to spoil myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:38   because I was so terrified that this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:41   going to go in a direction that i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:42   not want that i was going to be like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4782">TS</a>]

01:19:44   can't play this game it's going to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:45   me unhappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:46   i spelled myself just enough to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:48   that they were gonna be there were going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:50   to be any guns in the game and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:51   continues I was like okay I can I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:54   enjoy myself but I i thought the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4794">TS</a>]

01:19:58   was wildly affecting primarily because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4798">TS</a>]

01:20:01   of the way that the story interact with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:03   nature and plays off your sort of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4803">TS</a>]

01:20:07   feelings about Izzy how how everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:11   can get heightened in the woods how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:12   everything can get twisted and turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:14   out of proportion and you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:16   sounds and music and freaky wind chimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4816">TS</a>]

01:20:19   and random abandoned houses in the in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:23   the middle of the woods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:24   even if they don't have anything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:26   know any regard to the primary plot they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:28   still they still capture you they still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4828">TS</a>]

01:20:31   they still make you excited and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:32   terrified to know what's going on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4832">TS</a>]

01:20:35   disembodied voices so great I i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:39   enjoyed playing it I want to play it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:41   through again exhale only played it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:43   through once i want to play it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:45   again and make some slightly different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4845">TS</a>]

01:20:47   choices because I i think the voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4847">TS</a>]

01:20:49   acting in this game was magnificent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:52   I really I kind of just want to hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:54   more of more of the various dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:56   that they had that the actors record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4856">TS</a>]

01:20:58   because i really enjoy I enjoy listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4858">TS</a>]

01:21:01   to Henry and Delilah targets at this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:03   really really good banter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:04   it's a good great audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4864">TS</a>]

01:21:06   choose-your-own-adventure overall I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4866">TS</a>]

01:21:09   thought it was was really nice it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:12   reminded me a lot of gone home and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4872">TS</a>]

01:21:16   hit me the same way that braid did in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4876">TS</a>]

01:21:18   strange way i'm just kinda with the with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4878">TS</a>]

01:21:21   the uncomfortable feels the i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4881">TS</a>]

01:21:25   really sure if I like you you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:27   embarrassed you also feel like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:29   learned something and and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:33   sense of wistfulness and longing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4893">TS</a>]

01:21:34   more most of all it made me want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:38   off of the computer and go to Lake Tahoe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:40   and spend a weekend in the woods today I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:42   definitely had that like yeah let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4902">TS</a>]

01:21:45   take a hike now I can watch out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4905">TS</a>]

01:21:47   crazy people at the f10 with your final [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4907">TS</a>]

01:21:49   verdict done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4909">TS</a>]

01:21:50   Firewatch i did like it I I came around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4910">TS</a>]

01:21:53   to it but i love the little details that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4913">TS</a>]

01:21:55   that build character in addition to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:58   tremendously great voice acting and dial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4918">TS</a>]

01:22:00   like when you can find a hat in the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4920">TS</a>]

01:22:02   beginning and then like the hats there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4922">TS</a>]

01:22:03   with you and if you don't find the hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4923">TS</a>]

01:22:05   then you don't have a hat and the every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:08   time he left the watchtower he'd grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4928">TS</a>]

01:22:11   the ledge to like swing down stairs like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4931">TS</a>]

01:22:13   that's it's so human and like you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:16   really drawn in with moments like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4936">TS</a>]

01:22:18   or you know with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:20   Delilah's final drawing of you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4940">TS</a>]

01:22:23   however you answered how you look that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4943">TS</a>]

01:22:25   how the drawing was on her desk and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:27   little inside jokes that you made or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4947">TS</a>]

01:22:29   didn't make throughout the game are are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4949">TS</a>]

01:22:32   all there or they're not there and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:34   really enjoyed all of those attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4954">TS</a>]

01:22:37   detail that's you know most people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:39   wouldn't find but the people that do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:41   find it have that little bit of delight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:43   when they when they play but I'm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4963">TS</a>]

01:22:46   know I would have liked it to be you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:47   know a strong lady going through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4967">TS</a>]

01:22:49   woods who fell in love with the wire I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4969">TS</a>]

01:22:51   thought that might have been a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4971">TS</a>]

01:22:52   different that would have been cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:53   twist on it but I think as it as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4973">TS</a>]

01:22:56   played out it was a really great game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4976">TS</a>]

01:22:57   and they did a really great job with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4977">TS</a>]

01:22:59   budget they had John what's your verdict [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4979">TS</a>]

01:23:01   so I tend to like story games like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4981">TS</a>]

01:23:03   for myself like I like to play them but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4983">TS</a>]

01:23:05   i also like to recommend them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4985">TS</a>]

01:23:07   Firewatch unlike so many games these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4987">TS</a>]

01:23:10   days for the most part does not ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4990">TS</a>]

01:23:12   to do something dexterity wise with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4992">TS</a>]

01:23:16   time limit with a purpose that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4996">TS</a>]

01:23:18   ask you to memorize the move set to jump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:21   on moving platforms to shoot things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:24   general no matter how clumsy you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:27   from moment to moment with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:29   controller or the mouse and the keyboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:30   you can you you will be successful in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5010">TS</a>]

01:23:34   the game is a lot of games that don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:35   have any states where you can die so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5015">TS</a>]

01:23:37   easily or they're not asking you to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5017">TS</a>]

01:23:39   mechanic they're not a virtual athletic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:42   competition and that lets more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5022">TS</a>]

01:23:44   enjoy the things that the games you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5024">TS</a>]

01:23:47   uniquely positioned to do so I i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5027">TS</a>]

01:23:50   the type of game for myself is just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:51   of a break-in to enjoy different types [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:52   of games it lets games look beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:55   like this game looks because those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:56   people because the Gamemakers can put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:58   their money and their effort into other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5038">TS</a>]

01:23:59   places like the scenery or the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5039">TS</a>]

01:24:02   dialogue or the voice acting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5042">TS</a>]

01:24:04   whereas if you spend the entire game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:05   hunting game development process holding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5045">TS</a>]

01:24:07   a game engine for some you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5047">TS</a>]

01:24:08   shooter a platformer you don't have time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5048">TS</a>]

01:24:10   for that the stuff so that's one respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5050">TS</a>]

01:24:12   that I really really love this game of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5052">TS</a>]

01:24:14   the other thing is the more unique to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5054">TS</a>]

01:24:16   this game than the other games is I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5056">TS</a>]

01:24:19   the fact that this game was even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5059">TS</a>]

01:24:20   structurally so similar to the games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:22   we've all mentioned that are generally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:24   not hand-eye coordination games have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:26   dialogue trees have a story have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5066">TS</a>]

01:24:28   branching plots of varying degrees that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5068">TS</a>]

01:24:31   this game was different than those in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:33   that it was a different kind of story in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:35   a different kind of setting with things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:38   that we didn't expect we spend most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5078">TS</a>]

01:24:39   this podcast talking about how this game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:43   subverted your expectations of having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:45   protagonist who was include the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:46   admirable of having to forcing you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5086">TS</a>]

01:24:48   inhabit this character has bad things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:49   happen to them of having a plot that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5089">TS</a>]

01:24:51   doesn't follow the traditional structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5091">TS</a>]

01:24:53   culminating in some grand conspiracy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5093">TS</a>]

01:24:55   having time a melancholy bummer kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5095">TS</a>]

01:24:58   climax and resolution of the story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5098">TS</a>]

01:25:02   there's a lot of sameness and games even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5102">TS</a>]

01:25:04   within the games are doing now isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5104">TS</a>]

01:25:05   gone home totally different than you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:07   know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5107">TS</a>]

01:25:08   call of duty you're not going home is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:09   different call of duty but there's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5109">TS</a>]

01:25:11   so much greater range of the games can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:14   take even if you think like the range of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5114">TS</a>]

01:25:16   novels and movies are still much broader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5116">TS</a>]

01:25:18   than the envelope of things that games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:19   feel like they're allowed to do if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5119">TS</a>]

01:25:21   was a movie no my bad not like oh this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:23   is really breaking new ground for motors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5123">TS</a>]

01:25:24   plenty of movies about people in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:26   woods who are sad weird things happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:28   you and you don't think anything of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:29   but four games to do that I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5129">TS</a>]

01:25:32   one of the most important things this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5132">TS</a>]

01:25:33   game does it shows you don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:35   tell the same kind of stories in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5135">TS</a>]

01:25:36   same kind of way in the same kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5136">TS</a>]

01:25:38   settings all the time and granted yet is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5138">TS</a>]

01:25:41   big you know the w white dude who is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5141">TS</a>]

01:25:43   main character I can't break ground on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5143">TS</a>]

01:25:45   all fronts but I just like I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:47   the idea that it is that is definitely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5147">TS</a>]

01:25:50   different weird kind of game even if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:52   doesn't appeal to people and you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5152">TS</a>]

01:25:53   you know what I would like a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5153">TS</a>]

01:25:55   kind of game this game and it's weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5155">TS</a>]

01:25:57   and didn't didn't quite work for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5157">TS</a>]

01:25:59   want there to be more games like this so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5159">TS</a>]

01:26:02   even though i think something like gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:05   home was like a tighter and better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:08   realized in the end fire watches its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:10   unique snowflake that I'm just glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5170">TS</a>]

01:26:12   exist and i want to see I'm glad he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5172">TS</a>]

01:26:15   doing well financially it seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5175">TS</a>]

01:26:17   anyway because i want to see more people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:18   say I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5178">TS</a>]

01:26:19   a weird idea for a game to like and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5179">TS</a>]

01:26:21   know anything summer-like text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:23   adventures and much more adventurous how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5183">TS</a>]

01:26:24   you can type whatever you want i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:25   text adventures about anything I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5185">TS</a>]

01:26:28   more games like Firewatch time I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5188">TS</a>]

01:26:30   enjoy playing it now I i agree fifteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5190">TS</a>]

01:26:32   or twenty dollars and three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5192">TS</a>]

01:26:34   hours i wish there were more games that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5194">TS</a>]

01:26:37   this is the kind of game I want to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:39   I don't want to invest in a game that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5199">TS</a>]

01:26:43   good i'm going to put 200 hours in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5203">TS</a>]

01:26:44   because I'm never gonna put 200 or 100 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:46   or 50 or 20 hours in a game i'm just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:49   going to do it but something like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5209">TS</a>]

01:26:51   which is substantial to me it's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5211">TS</a>]

01:26:55   than a movie but it's also not a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5215">TS</a>]

01:26:58   that i have to you know just become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5218">TS</a>]

01:27:00   lifestyle either i really like these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5220">TS</a>]

01:27:02   kinds of games i would love to play more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5222">TS</a>]

01:27:03   of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5223">TS</a>]

01:27:04   I I i think it's interesting that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:06   character is kind of off-putting but I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:10   found him I found him off putting to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5230">TS</a>]

01:27:12   I guess that's part of the point is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5232">TS</a>]

01:27:14   your you know you're trying to be put in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5234">TS</a>]

01:27:16   a position like we were saying where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5236">TS</a>]

01:27:18   know wherever you go there you are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5238">TS</a>]

01:27:20   know we're not happy he's not happy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5240">TS</a>]

01:27:22   himself and we're not happy with him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5242">TS</a>]

01:27:23   we're him too so I like that about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5243">TS</a>]

01:27:26   and I'm what I will take away from it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5246">TS</a>]

01:27:27   the beauty as much as like kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:29   quibble with the red herrings and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5249">TS</a>]

01:27:31   ultimate resolution of this mystery and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5251">TS</a>]

01:27:35   I wish it was a little more puncturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5255">TS</a>]

01:27:37   of just like oh there are no mysteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5257">TS</a>]

01:27:39   that was all in your head there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5259">TS</a>]

01:27:40   there's just these different things i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:42   would have liked that I think better i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5262">TS</a>]

01:27:44   will walk away with the memory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5264">TS</a>]

01:27:46   wandering around in the woods and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:49   was really great and it was beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:51   and it was fun and I I you know I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:53   believe that I did it but I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5273">TS</a>]

01:27:55   advocated for more boring wandering and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5275">TS</a>]

01:27:59   looking at the woods because i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5279">TS</a>]

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01:28:12   memories of being in this space even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5292">TS</a>]

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01:28:40   anywhere to take a hike in the woods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5320">TS</a>]

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01:28:52   some point in the near future that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5332">TS</a>]

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01:28:58   one like fire watch I'd like to thank my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5338">TS</a>]

01:29:01   panel for joining me to talk about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5341">TS</a>]

01:29:02   video game Tony sindelar thank you Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5342">TS</a>]

01:29:06   was fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5346">TS</a>]

01:29:07   Tiffany are meant thank you thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5347">TS</a>]

01:29:09   already called well thanks feel better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5349">TS</a>]

01:29:12   Thank You president Hamilton thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5352">TS</a>]

01:29:14   being here very happy to be here thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5354">TS</a>]

01:29:16   you so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5356">TS</a>]

01:29:17   and of course John siracusa thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5357">TS</a>]

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01:29:23   podcast we have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5363">TS</a>]

01:29:25   ok already did that so noted thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5365">TS</a>]

01:29:28   everybody out there for listening we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5368">TS</a>]

01:29:29   will see you next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5369">TS</a>]

01:29:32   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY18Dw8/5372">TS</a>]

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