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296: The Official Batman

 

00:00:02   the incomparable number 296 April 2016 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2">TS</a>]

00:00:11   welcome back everybody to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/11">TS</a>]

00:00:12   uncomfortable on your host Jason Steele [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/12">TS</a>]

00:00:13   we're here to talk as everybody has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/13">TS</a>]

00:00:16   demanded about Batman and that's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/16">TS</a>]

00:00:19   that's why we're going to be talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/19">TS</a>]

00:00:20   about that man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22   the animated series a bad man that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/22">TS</a>]

00:00:25   people want to watch doing that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/25">TS</a>]

00:00:30   because they do join me to talk about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/30">TS</a>]

00:00:32   classic perhaps the definitive Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34   will see what people have to say about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/36">TS</a>]

00:00:37   we've got a fantastic panel here David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39   jail or is here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/39">TS</a>]

00:00:40   hello hello you use the adjective i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/40">TS</a>]

00:00:42   going to use definitive then thank you i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/42">TS</a>]

00:00:45   have the playwright approves my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/45">TS</a>]

00:00:48   adjective I'd did more and also joins us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/48">TS</a>]

00:00:51   hide and i am the night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/51">TS</a>]

00:00:53   I mean hi hey let's go get some in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/53">TS</a>]

00:00:56   throat there i think i do I sorry i got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/56">TS</a>]

00:00:58   some tea hero but Shannon sudderth also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/58">TS</a>]

00:01:01   joins us hello Lefty easy joining us for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/61">TS</a>]

00:01:04   the very first time but a familiar name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/64">TS</a>]

00:01:08   if you read the old TV website which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/68">TS</a>]

00:01:11   essentially what spawned being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/71">TS</a>]

00:01:12   comfortable but it's his first and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/72">TS</a>]

00:01:14   comfortable podcast you weighed almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16   300 episodes but you finally did its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/76">TS</a>]

00:01:17   Nathan alderman I Nathan howdy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/77">TS</a>]

00:01:20   and finally the cut one of the Cardinals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/80">TS</a>]

00:01:25   of the Church of Batman Tony sindelar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27   hello nerds home so dark so menacing so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/87">TS</a>]

00:01:32   threatening that is the voice of a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34   detective the org chart in the Church of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/94">TS</a>]

00:01:36   Batman is complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38   it's very shadowy not all there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/98">TS</a>]

00:01:40   of dash lines not a lot of straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/100">TS</a>]

00:01:42   lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/102">TS</a>]

00:01:42   no I would imagine it's always Ashline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/102">TS</a>]

00:01:44   'he's and the collar shadows kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/104">TS</a>]

00:01:46   clouds and what's the question marks at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48   the very least I'm a gray eminence maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50   not a dark eminence you ingrate and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/110">TS</a>]

00:01:51   never know we can't working Batman yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/113">TS</a>]

00:01:54   does every sermon in the Church of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/114">TS</a>]

00:01:55   Batman have to be delivered in like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   deep husky girl that 10 your throat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/117">TS</a>]

00:02:01   he's always watching you Batman mom he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/121">TS</a>]

00:02:05   knows if you've been naughty or nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/125">TS</a>]

00:02:06   spoiler it's always naughty Tony tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/126">TS</a>]

00:02:10   why we chose to watch batman the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/130">TS</a>]

00:02:12   animated series and you give us a list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/132">TS</a>]

00:02:14   of episodes to watch how you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/134">TS</a>]

00:02:17   was a lot of talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/137">TS</a>]

00:02:18   Batman vs Superman uh a lot of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/138">TS</a>]

00:02:21   ask me what are my feelings on Batman vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   Superman that is not a question I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/143">TS</a>]

00:02:26   qualified to answer because i have not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/146">TS</a>]

00:02:27   seen Batman or Superman me I'll see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/147">TS</a>]

00:02:30   someday but i am not in any rush like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/150">TS</a>]

00:02:33   it finds me i'm waiting for it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/153">TS</a>]

00:02:35   waiting for batman superman that damn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/155">TS</a>]

00:02:37   well I you Tony Allen tired of that man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/157">TS</a>]

00:02:40   it has remained neutral on Batman vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/160">TS</a>]

00:02:42   Superman up to have not made a statement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   either way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/164">TS</a>]

00:02:45   yeah it right there like either agnostic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/165">TS</a>]

00:02:47   is there a schism here is there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49   that man is different things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   different people and there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/171">TS</a>]

00:02:54   people who you know Batman or Superman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/174">TS</a>]

00:02:55   is the Batman they need i am from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/175">TS</a>]

00:02:59   the tradition that sees batman the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   animated series as the eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/181">TS</a>]

00:03:04   batman batman the animated series uh you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/184">TS</a>]

00:03:07   know if this error in the early nineties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09   i was a a you know medium-sized child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/189">TS</a>]

00:03:11   not quite a teenager yet and i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/191">TS</a>]

00:03:14   come home and I would watch this every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16   day and it was basically the best part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/196">TS</a>]

00:03:17   about my childhood so it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/197">TS</a>]

00:03:20   really great when other people feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/200">TS</a>]

00:03:21   Lester about it looking at you Jason i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/201">TS</a>]

00:03:26   will explain it so so this series began [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/206">TS</a>]

00:03:29   to air why you were your mediums its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/209">TS</a>]

00:03:32   child I was uh I think I was probably I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/212">TS</a>]

00:03:35   was 11 or 12 when I was watching it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37   this was this actually premiered when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   started grad school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/219">TS</a>]

00:03:40   I'm I left College went to grad school I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/220">TS</a>]

00:03:44   was not watching television at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46   point very much because i was doing lots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/226">TS</a>]

00:03:49   of other stuff and I completely missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/229">TS</a>]

00:03:52   it completely missed it so for this you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54   you assigned all of us some episodes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/234">TS</a>]

00:03:57   watch these are the only episodes of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/237">TS</a>]

00:03:58   series that I've ever seen but I watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/238">TS</a>]

00:04:00   all of them so i picked 10 episodes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/240">TS</a>]

00:04:02   can talk a little bit about why I tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04   to pick those but it is hard this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/244">TS</a>]

00:04:05   you know there are many episodes for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/245">TS</a>]

00:04:06   ship the show and I tried to pick 10 and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/246">TS</a>]

00:04:09   some several of those 10 are two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/249">TS</a>]

00:04:10   partners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/250">TS</a>]

00:04:11   yes I because batman the animated series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/251">TS</a>]

00:04:12   has some great two partners but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/252">TS</a>]

00:04:13   limits kind of the number of like little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/253">TS</a>]

00:04:16   stories you get to fit in 10 but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/256">TS</a>]

00:04:17   know I thought ten was like a very nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/257">TS</a>]

00:04:19   package and some of those were like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/259">TS</a>]

00:04:22   things that are my favorite episodes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/262">TS</a>]

00:04:23   some of those were episodes i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25   might appeal to Jason who was seeing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27   the first time and some of them were the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/267">TS</a>]

00:04:28   ones that I thought were like the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/268">TS</a>]

00:04:29   episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/269">TS</a>]

00:04:30   the most important representatives see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/270">TS</a>]

00:04:33   let's check out everybody else first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35   about their experience we now know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36   i didn't watch it and tony was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/276">TS</a>]

00:04:37   medium-sized child who watched it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   the best thing about his childhood so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   let's see how everybody else feels where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/281">TS</a>]

00:04:44   what was your exposure to Batman the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   Animated Series dan I like Tony's house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/286">TS</a>]

00:04:49   a little bit old and holding but not by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/289">TS</a>]

00:04:50   much i remember watching it in junior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52   high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/292">TS</a>]

00:04:53   i specially I have a very distinct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/293">TS</a>]

00:04:55   memory there is one of those days when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   we were in school and there's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/297">TS</a>]

00:04:59   rumor going around i don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01   spawned it but as as happens in schools [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   account today today is going to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/303">TS</a>]

00:05:05   end the end of the world today at like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07   like four o'clock or something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09   you know one of those doomsday cult type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/309">TS</a>]

00:05:11   predictions that 11 and 12 year old so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/311">TS</a>]

00:05:14   you really like and I remember applying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16   I hope not because Batman is on at five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   so i started watching very like Tony I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/318">TS</a>]

00:05:22   would come home and i would i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   watch it in the in the afternoon and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/324">TS</a>]

00:05:28   me I think the most exciting thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/328">TS</a>]

00:05:30   this not that i was in an enormous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32   Batman fan going in but was there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/332">TS</a>]

00:05:35   something about they show that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/335">TS</a>]

00:05:36   clearly set apart from the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38   cartoons that i was watching at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   yeah i enjoyed liked your Animaniacs and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/340">TS</a>]

00:05:43   Tiny Toons your things they're a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/343">TS</a>]

00:05:44   more comedic but the fact that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/344">TS</a>]

00:05:46   wasn't this was a cartoon that was first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48   of all not played for laughs at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/348">TS</a>]

00:05:50   pretty much I mean there's there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/350">TS</a>]

00:05:51   comedy here and there but most of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/351">TS</a>]

00:05:53   episodes tend to veer a little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55   towards the serious side if a lot darker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/355">TS</a>]

00:05:58   than a lot of the the cartoons i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   watching which appealed to me as someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/360">TS</a>]

00:06:01   who was you know preteen right there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/361">TS</a>]

00:06:05   I think I what I like the most about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07   was that especially as the show went on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   you do have these see realized stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/369">TS</a>]

00:06:13   often broken into a couple parts and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/373">TS</a>]

00:06:16   me there is no greater thrill than like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/376">TS</a>]

00:06:17   you know attorney on it like previously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19   on Batman look at that was not a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21   that you saw in cartoons like for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/381">TS</a>]

00:06:23   most part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/383">TS</a>]

00:06:24   occasionally you get some like Japanese [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/384">TS</a>]

00:06:26   import like redub Johnnie Mae and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/386">TS</a>]

00:06:28   would have sort of an ongoing story but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   what this was one of the first American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32   cartoons that I remember watching as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/392">TS</a>]

00:06:33   kid that actually continued from episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/393">TS</a>]

00:06:36   to episode and as someone who loves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/396">TS</a>]

00:06:37   cereal storytelling that really appealed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/397">TS</a>]

00:06:40   to me and not just in the direct you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/402">TS</a>]

00:06:42   have a lot to partners but as the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/402">TS</a>]

00:06:44   went on we added new characters existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/404">TS</a>]

00:06:47   characters got developed you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/407">TS</a>]

00:06:48   villains would recur and and it felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/408">TS</a>]

00:06:52   like there was change happening here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/412">TS</a>]

00:06:53   which is a little silly to say in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/413">TS</a>]

00:06:55   comic book series in some ways because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/415">TS</a>]

00:06:56   like you know the big thing I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/416">TS</a>]

00:06:59   was like that man kind of never really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/419">TS</a>]

00:07:00   changes right like that's that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/420">TS</a>]

00:07:03   his his stick but the especially as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/423">TS</a>]

00:07:07   got back and revisit the voice acting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   you know so many of these characters to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/429">TS</a>]

00:07:10   me have become I think I i use the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/430">TS</a>]

00:07:12   with you earlier Jason definitive in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/432">TS</a>]

00:07:15   head Kevin Conroy is as entertaining to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17   Erica Andy and Batman especially is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/437">TS</a>]

00:07:20   the Batman that I remember mark hamill's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   Joker is of course the sort of to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   definitive Joker and as those characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/444">TS</a>]

00:07:27   have gone if they've betrayed them in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/447">TS</a>]

00:07:28   number of forms including some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/448">TS</a>]

00:07:29   video games later on and and this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/449">TS</a>]

00:07:32   designs of the characters even so I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/452">TS</a>]

00:07:35   think that for me this really set my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/455">TS</a>]

00:07:38   expectations of who Batman wasn't this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40   comes a couple years after the first and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42   and second i think michael keaton movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   but those felt those were kinda too old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46   or too young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/466">TS</a>]

00:07:47   I I was too young i felt in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/467">TS</a>]

00:07:49   for those are at least they were a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/469">TS</a>]

00:07:50   little darker than I was prepared for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   that age so this really i think defined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/472">TS</a>]

00:07:55   you know what Batman was to me I'd seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   like the Adam West series earlier on I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/477">TS</a>]

00:08:00   think I had a pair of Batman pajamas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/480">TS</a>]

00:08:01   they had like a velcro tape that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/481">TS</a>]

00:08:02   pretty sweet but yeah this to me is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/482">TS</a>]

00:08:06   kevin conroy i will always remain my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08   Batman and the show is still fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/488">TS</a>]

00:08:12   right David what was your experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/492">TS</a>]

00:08:14   with batman the animated series i had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/494">TS</a>]

00:08:17   seen several you know I grown up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/497">TS</a>]

00:08:19   several iterations of Batman and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   Adam West one was on all the certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23   was usually both yes so you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/503">TS</a>]

00:08:26   was that was my main thing i saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/506">TS</a>]

00:08:27   Filmation cartoon versions in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29   seventies were okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   they were great they were better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/511">TS</a>]

00:08:32   Superfriends and so you know when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/512">TS</a>]

00:08:35   michael keaton the first one hit i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/515">TS</a>]

00:08:38   really excited like okay we're gonna see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   at a good Batman this is great and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/520">TS</a>]

00:08:43   the animated series hit just about when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/523">TS</a>]

00:08:45   batman returns came out which explains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/525">TS</a>]

00:08:49   it you how Catwoman's relationship in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/529">TS</a>]

00:08:51   the in the cartoon series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53   developed its it's like spun off of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/533">TS</a>]

00:08:56   and so yeah I was ready for it when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/536">TS</a>]

00:09:00   premiered it premiered on fox on sunday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/540">TS</a>]

00:09:03   night at seven with with the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/543">TS</a>]

00:09:05   episode with man-bat and I was sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07   there with a couple of my friends from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09   high school who were just starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11   graduate school and I was like I I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/551">TS</a>]

00:09:15   care what else we do tonight we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/555">TS</a>]

00:09:17   going to watch batman right now and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   they said that they were hooked and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/559">TS</a>]

00:09:22   when the actual series started my mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/562">TS</a>]

00:09:25   got hooked just walking through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27   seeing it going hey that's actually good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/567">TS</a>]

00:09:30   because I mean I I'd grown up again on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/570">TS</a>]

00:09:33   the shadow and zoro and you know all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35   things that influence Batman and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/575">TS</a>]

00:09:38   really harkens back to that style both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41   visually a little bit but just in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43   of storytelling but with more maturity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45   it's it's much better written than most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47   of the old influences on it so yeah I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/587">TS</a>]

00:09:51   made what time to watch it even though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/591">TS</a>]

00:09:54   was in my twenties by that point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/594">TS</a>]

00:09:56   every iteration of the show that came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58   out after that you know the new Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   adventures the Batman and Robin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   adventures and and then Superman I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04   even a big Superman fan i watched their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   version of superman that went along with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/606">TS</a>]

00:10:09   this and then of course the Justice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/609">TS</a>]

00:10:12   League series is and all the animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/612">TS</a>]

00:10:15   films that have come since then and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17   yeah that's that's why i say this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19   definitive I i'm really not all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/619">TS</a>]

00:10:22   interest I I like this better than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24   Christopher Nolan films even the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/624">TS</a>]

00:10:27   that i like you know this is Batman to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/627">TS</a>]

00:10:30   me because this is a plausible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/630">TS</a>]

00:10:31   continuing life of a superhero the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/631">TS</a>]

00:10:36   big-budget movies are big explodey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/636">TS</a>]

00:10:38   things I mean what we get one Joker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/638">TS</a>]

00:10:41   story and then he dies until they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   rebooted and we get one Joker story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45   he dies it's like no no this is how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/645">TS</a>]

00:10:49   works this is a comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51   Nathan what's your idea what's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/651">TS</a>]

00:10:53   relationship with the animated series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/653">TS</a>]

00:10:54   III I get the sense that you liked it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/654">TS</a>]

00:10:57   lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/657">TS</a>]

00:10:57   oh ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/657">TS</a>]

00:10:58   actually I remember watching it the day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/658">TS</a>]

00:11:03   it premiered which is actually on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/663">TS</a>]

00:11:04   Saturday before the man bad episode on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06   the sunday they shared the very first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/666">TS</a>]

00:11:09   episode on a saturday morning i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   sitting down with my brother I'd read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/671">TS</a>]

00:11:13   about it i read about it a few years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   before it came out in some promotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   magazine that Warner Brothers sent out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   that somehow wound it's found its way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   into my middle school journalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/681">TS</a>]

00:11:22   classroom but i still remember my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/682">TS</a>]

00:11:25   brother and I parked on the couch we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27   got a tape in the VCR to record it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29   the anticipation and then seeing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31   amazing show unfold with these opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   credits that have no text no titles no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/693">TS</a>]

00:11:36   words just music and images I watched my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/696">TS</a>]

00:11:40   brother and I watched that first episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42   i think four times that weekend alone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/702">TS</a>]

00:11:45   just rewatching because we had never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   seen anything like this in animation we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/707">TS</a>]

00:11:50   both been reading Batman comics for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/710">TS</a>]

00:11:51   few years you know I like recordings of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/711">TS</a>]

00:11:54   the shadow I was about 13 years old at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   that point and I love like old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58   recordings the shadow with Orson Welles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/718">TS</a>]

00:12:00   and and I knew about Frank Miller even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/720">TS</a>]

00:12:02   though I haven't really read his work so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04   yeah it is i think what makes it great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/724">TS</a>]

00:12:07   is that it's a synthesis of every good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/727">TS</a>]

00:12:09   aspect of Batman that had come before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11   the series throughout every iteration of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/731">TS</a>]

00:12:14   the character you've got like the bright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/734">TS</a>]

00:12:16   primary colors of the very first comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/736">TS</a>]

00:12:19   you've got some of the the fun Silver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   Age goofiness and like that a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/741">TS</a>]

00:12:24   of the camp from the Batman 66 series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   like in the Riddler's costume design [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/746">TS</a>]

00:12:27   you've got the darkness of the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/747">TS</a>]

00:12:30   you've got a little Frank Miller in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/750">TS</a>]

00:12:32   in the squareness of the the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/752">TS</a>]

00:12:33   designs all these they had all this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/753">TS</a>]

00:12:36   great stuff to pick and choose from and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38   then when they didn't have great stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/758">TS</a>]

00:12:39   to pick and choose from like with mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/759">TS</a>]

00:12:40   freeze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/760">TS</a>]

00:12:41   they created stuff that went on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43   become you know as good as any of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45   stuff that they picked and chose from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/765">TS</a>]

00:12:47   it's I mean when you think about it this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/767">TS</a>]

00:12:49   is the first animated series that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51   way that is still totally appropriate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/771">TS</a>]

00:12:52   for kids shows a married couple sharing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/772">TS</a>]

00:12:55   a bed shows an abusive relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   which is genuinely terrifying and still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/777">TS</a>]

00:13:01   manages to make it all k kid friendly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/781">TS</a>]

00:13:04   and in a way that kids can understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   and relate to its it is my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/786">TS</a>]

00:13:09   animated series it's one of my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/789">TS</a>]

00:13:10   TV series so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12   the you might notice i'm slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   excited to be here and talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/794">TS</a>]

00:13:15   it's good good uh Shannon what about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/795">TS</a>]

00:13:19   so i would be part of the group that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21   started watching this in grad school I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/801">TS</a>]

00:13:25   grew up on the Batman reruns from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/805">TS</a>]

00:13:28   old Adam West Show and I was a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/808">TS</a>]

00:13:31   Batgirl phonetic is sort of was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/811">TS</a>]

00:13:34   gateway into it when I was very young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36   and gettin older was excited for the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/816">TS</a>]

00:13:41   first batman movie at this point I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/821">TS</a>]

00:13:43   in grad school I'd found my tribe and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   was in a science-fiction club and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/825">TS</a>]

00:13:48   is one of the things that everybody was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/828">TS</a>]

00:13:49   interested in and talked about loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/829">TS</a>]

00:13:52   loved the tim burton movies really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/832">TS</a>]

00:13:55   enjoyed that they elevated the comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/835">TS</a>]

00:13:59   books to this grand big-scale much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01   better than any of the TV shows might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/841">TS</a>]

00:14:03   have and then this animated series is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/843">TS</a>]

00:14:06   coming out and I watched anime i watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/846">TS</a>]

00:14:09   cartoons still I like various cartoons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11   and I if I remember correctly there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/851">TS</a>]

00:14:16   a viewing party with are some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18   people that are science fiction club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/858">TS</a>]

00:14:19   that you everybody got together and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/859">TS</a>]

00:14:20   somebody's apartment just to watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/860">TS</a>]

00:14:23   first episodes and we were like and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/863">TS</a>]

00:14:28   is smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/868">TS</a>]

00:14:29   that was one of the things that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/869">TS</a>]

00:14:30   thought not just not not just good not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/870">TS</a>]

00:14:31   just artistic this cohesive universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/871">TS</a>]

00:14:35   that they created with the style of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/875">TS</a>]

00:14:38   the animation of the world creating this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40   sort of forties fifties vibe and yet all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/880">TS</a>]

00:14:44   of the computers appliances everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46   completely modern all of this mix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/886">TS</a>]

00:14:49   together just and the use of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   characters that people have mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/891">TS</a>]

00:14:52   creating or reinventing a classic Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/892">TS</a>]

00:14:57   villains creating new interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/897">TS</a>]

00:14:58   possibilities and always with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/898">TS</a>]

00:15:01   balanced sense it's like very few of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/901">TS</a>]

00:15:05   these characters are 100-percent evil so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/905">TS</a>]

00:15:09   many of the origins they create come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/909">TS</a>]

00:15:12   from somebody who you know mr. freeze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/912">TS</a>]

00:15:14   that will be talking about in a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/914">TS</a>]

00:15:16   minutes when we get to the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/916">TS</a>]

00:15:16   episodes it that the animated series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/916">TS</a>]

00:15:19   take is this was just a guy trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/919">TS</a>]

00:15:22   save his wife and this evil corporate do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/922">TS</a>]

00:15:25   good prevents it and apparently kills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27   the wife and turns him into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/927">TS</a>]

00:15:30   supervillain that he became on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/930">TS</a>]

00:15:33   emotional beats were there in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/933">TS</a>]

00:15:36   I had not seen with um with what any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/936">TS</a>]

00:15:39   other animated cartoon series certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   you know with Frank Miller's Dark Knight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/941">TS</a>]

00:15:44   other comics were getting into deeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/944">TS</a>]

00:15:47   more emotional storytelling about TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49   haven't caught up yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/949">TS</a>]

00:15:50   and then of course like the others I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/950">TS</a>]

00:15:53   kept watching the first team universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/953">TS</a>]

00:15:55   all hail of Superman justice leave don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/955">TS</a>]

00:15:58   be in Titans I've been paying attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/958">TS</a>]

00:15:59   and continuing to watch just like a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/959">TS</a>]

00:16:02   of you guys and I love rewatching the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/962">TS</a>]

00:16:05   show I've loved introducing it to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/965">TS</a>]

00:16:06   teenager when he was younger he got into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/966">TS</a>]

00:16:09   it with 19 10 years old somewhere in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/969">TS</a>]

00:16:12   there that all of a sudden he wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/972">TS</a>]

00:16:13   start watching it more like yeah here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/973">TS</a>]

00:16:15   here's the first set of dvds go for it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   so we've always been really appreciative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/977">TS</a>]

00:16:20   of just how well they captured a vision [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/980">TS</a>]

00:16:25   of the Batman that took bits for all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   best bits from all of these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   sources and made it into something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   definitive no other word for it and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/991">TS</a>]

00:16:35   tying into something both of you sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38   hit on the real thing that comes out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/998">TS</a>]

00:16:41   this there's a difference between mature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:44   and adult there is a maturing into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:47   characters and the writing in this show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   that none of the movies even approach as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:53   adults in serious and violent yo ho look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:56   at us we're deep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:57   no yeah your bombastic this has real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1017">TS</a>]

00:17:01   emotional maturity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:02   yeah and i think that there's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:03   stresses the character of Batman you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:06   know way I think part of what makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:07   definitive for me is that the Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:10   here is an interesting multi-dimensional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:13   character who is not I don't know I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:16   like today's Batman is so did yall angst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18   all the time right he says she's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20   anyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:21   one key yeah yeah he's jingoistic and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:24   many of the movies right where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   I'm good and like I the improve our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   playoff the brutality of it which it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30   get you know as sort of a dimension that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:32   you can explore Batman but you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:34   that's one note whereas here I I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:37   for me there is no better summation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   the Batman from this and therefore the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:41   Batman that i consider sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:42   official Batman then the you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:45   Nathan mentioned the title sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:46   itself there's no dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48   there's no words there's no titles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:51   yet the story of the title sequences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53   itself self-contained I mean it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   little pilot for it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:57   exactly it's sarah and but like I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1077">TS</a>]

00:18:00   that he tell you like here's a guy he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02   shows up he beats the thugs but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:04   doesn't like he doesn't like beat them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06   right like he defeats them but without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:09   like brutalizing them leaves them tied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   up for the police that's his job and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13   then he goes off and he stands so elated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:15   by lightning but like there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   about it to me that encapsulate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:18   whole idea of this Batman he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20   vigilante yes but he's a detective and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:23   crime solver and there's no there's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:26   so much more to him as a character here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:28   than I think in in pretty much any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:31   the other on-screen representations that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:32   we see the detective element is is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   of the things I really like about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   version of batman because I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:37   the you know Batman is theoretically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:39   world's greatest detective but there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   lot of iterations of Batman where he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   he does not do any detecting work he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45   the world's greatest punter of ninjas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:46   basically I don't I further i prefer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:49   world's greatest detective and and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51   does a lot more and some of that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:52   may be a factor of like this was a kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:55   show that was going to play on weekday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:56   afternoons it so it can't be brutal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:59   violence and so there's more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:00   solving puzzles and especially even like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:03   the first set of episodes it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:04   like more wackier villains and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:07   like that this careful shows up multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:08   times to make people like scared of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10   things but like I like that he is he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:13   he has an actual detective he does a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   across the episodes with like solving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   mysteries and figuring out riddles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   and solving puzzles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:20   he does a lot with that disguises and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22   has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:23   it's more like personas that he takes on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25   him and you know that happens in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   versions of the comics but there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:28   of the modern version of Batman that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30   kind of like they they they kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:32   dropped that or the detective angle is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34   not so much the Batman is detective so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   much as like he's got all these gadgets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   right you know so I mean a recent Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:41   comic i was reading he has like a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43   in his club so that he can literally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:44   like touch something and his glove like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46   analyzes the DNA and stuff in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48   computer tells them where to go next and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:49   it's like I mean technically he's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:52   detective work there but it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:53   just he has the fancy as nice as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:54   computer that money can buy do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56   detective work for him yet in this vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58   Batman is a detective rich in strategic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:01   and many of them like he's shown as sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03   of a tactician and strategist almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   more like a soldier in many of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07   movies and TV shows you know he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09   like smoothie smart about how he engages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11   and fights but we never see him being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   particularly clever you know or or smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:17   in the sense of like I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   unravel all these things I agree totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   Tony that that's that is played up here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23   so much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:23   not only you know several the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25   mentioned him as a detective including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27   mr. freeze and of course Rachel will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   always calls him detective which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   detail I like that a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:32   yeah and I think that that to me is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:36   agree totally like this is the Batman I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   want to see because it's the Batman who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   is not solely reliant on his gadgets or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   his ability to beat the crap out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:44   other people right like he uses his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:46   brains and and that's that sets him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:49   apart in some ways for especially if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   put them up against someone like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:52   Superman who is never considered I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:54   like to be particularly smart hero right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:56   you know and so if you can't beat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:58   Superman by beating him you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   beaten by outsmarting him and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02   the the famous Justice League bit where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:04   you know all of the other members of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06   Justice League you're stuck somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:07   they have to like go undercover and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   they're like worried about developing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:10   their secret identities and Batman's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   just like you know I remember you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14   you are you yeah let's move on I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:17   a file on all of you like come on people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19   and and while I would watch the hell out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   of the show called ninja puncher this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:24   actually a an aspirational hero to his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:27   heroic he's just good and he's held up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:30   as an example by characters in the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32   even which you again you can't say about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:35   the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:35   yep agreed and he's also he's fallible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:39   and and mortal which is interesting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:41   the comics you know grant morrison kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   of started the trend of you know the bat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45   God he's he's never wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   he's always got a contingency for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   everything in this series we've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:50   Batman who catches a cold and sneezing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52   and sniffling I met issues we've got one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:55   where you know in arguably the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   Batman thing ever the episode opens with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59   him brooding on a stone thrown in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01   cave not you know because he has doubts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:04   that what he's doing is making a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:05   difference and i love that i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07   adds a a wonderful nuanced and humanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   to the character that you don't see you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   in the comics anymore really and in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   lot definitely a lot of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:14   adaptations so if somebody who I was in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:17   college when the Michael Keaton Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   came out i was struck that obviously the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   theme music here is the danny elfman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23   Batman theme which I love I loved that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   whole score album from the the the tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:28   burton original batman with Michael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   Keaton and I feel like that that movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:32   because it lifted so much from so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:35   different areas that had like old cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:38   and you know the design of the Batmobile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:41   that it it in some ways I I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:45   the backstory here but it struck me that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:46   maybe it gave this series the freedom to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:50   have some interesting art direction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:53   have this be this kind of retro feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:55   it is the show in terms of style it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:59   isn't shiny and new and modern it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:02   kind of throwback and in that in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:05   period I mean that was what the temper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07   and Batman was to it was it was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   something that looked modern it looked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   like some kind of indeterminate time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13   where there was modern things but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15   was always also like old cars and old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:18   technology and a really fun combination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1398">TS</a>]

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00:24:04   that far off from the animated series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1444">TS</a>]

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00:24:10   know it's not it's not quite the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:11   but you can see how that was kind of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1451">TS</a>]

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00:24:16   stay sort of on brand with the franchise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   before totally spun out of control with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20   the the later the later movies so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1460">TS</a>]

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00:24:26   who's seen that Bert tim burton's batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1466">TS</a>]

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00:24:32   connection to do that here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1472">TS</a>]

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00:24:55   the animated series is how Bruce Wayne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1495">TS</a>]

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00:25:22   human too often Bruce Wayne is as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1522">TS</a>]

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00:25:40   negotiating deals he's got yeah he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   like an actual character nerds like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:43   argue about like which which version is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   is real like this is Batman Batman or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   his batman bruce wayne and which one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49   which one is the like the persona verse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1549">TS</a>]

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00:26:27   where sometimes depending on who who was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   writing and who's performing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   sometimes lot Cranston is fully capable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1591">TS</a>]

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00:26:44   episodes that center around Bruce Wayne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1604">TS</a>]

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00:26:58   like you can always tell when is Bruce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1618">TS</a>]

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00:28:57   gets tricky in terms of when you whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   you look at like production numbers or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:00   airing order but I've got it labeled as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   episode 14 hard advice you'll notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:05   that we did we we skipped a bunch right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07   we didn't didn't make you watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:08   first one or the second one anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   like that because batman the animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:11   series get something right that a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:14   seemed to be struggling with many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:15   decades later in that there is no origin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   story episode of batman the animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19   series we get little bits and flavors of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:22   his origin and that fits into things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:23   especially with there are characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:25   that persuade interacts with the new him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   before he was Batman and there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:28   some backstory episodes and things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30   that but there is no origin episode so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   just I just jumped many episodes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1772">TS</a>]

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00:29:38   mr. freeze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1778">TS</a>]

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00:29:42   villains and this was kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   reinvention of the Mr Freeze character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   he was always kind of a wacky kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:49   mischievous kind of character before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1789">TS</a>]

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00:30:04   are actually mile / be played by Mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:07   Hamill are who doesn't of writing voices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   was notably the Joker I had trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11   noticing him in this episode because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13   uses actual voice instead of the Joker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:14   voice I was like why is that voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   sounds so familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:17   so this is probably not the strongest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   one but i did want i want to kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   range of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:22   Batman villains to appear on the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24   because there's a lot of I mean I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1824">TS</a>]

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00:30:33   versions of many of the classic villains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   and reinventions last introductions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:38   villains I mean especially mr. freeze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   kind of tragic in that this is like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:41   great reinvention of him and then like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:43   five years later we get the arnold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   schwarzenegger crowd which is ideal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:48   based on this they just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:50   yeah they left a message on that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   that you know he's out his noodle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   scientists and kapalit i believe ya but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:58   ya su this is actually it i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   unfairly if not strong episode it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:03   really representative of what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   animated series winds up doing in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:08   opinion because we as we've got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:11   reimagining of the villain with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13   depth and some layers to what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:16   original scientist was trying to do and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:19   what happens you know when his wife dies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   and you know the chemicals condemn him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23   to living in the sub-zero environment so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   he's going after revenge on the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   person not the world uh and Batman even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:32   though he stops mr. freeze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   he also arranged for him to get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:37   revenge because he gives the story of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39   what the capitalist did over to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   reporter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42   yeah that's a touch that is so often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   there that little extra poke into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   maturity as we said our people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:50   consciousness is making people think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:51   that's consistent through so much of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:54   series and this is one that really shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   it and met that man makes a point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:57   saying it's not vengeance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:59   it's justice Yeah right right yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:02   it's not a matter of redeeming the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:05   villain or making him you know all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:06   friendly by the end but it's okay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   him to be a sympathetic villain for us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10   to to feel for him and to say alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:13   maybe you're making the wrong choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   this is not the way to go about this but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17   I get it I get why you're doing this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:20   michael ansara just sells every version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:23   of this character both in the flashback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:24   as as Victor fries and then in you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:28   progressively yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30   being you know full-on evil and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32   dealing with Batman who you know he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:34   doesn't really want Batman to get in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:36   way but you don't take him out if he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:39   and at the end it's just heartbreaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:42   when he's in his cell and you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:46   and that this was again one of the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48   of the first ones I saw that just sold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50   me on the show and and you get him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:54   coming back in in lovely ways the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:57   later movie that they did Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   sub-zero yeah wonderful wonderful yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:03   hurry and so they evolved his story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:06   the story of his wife and and just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:09   know again where are you going to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:10   that in any version of Batman and also I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:13   believe that my clients are based his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   vocal performance in part on the poet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   Robert Frost if you look online you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   find recording of frost reading his poem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   fire and ice and you hear some say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:25   world will end in fire some a nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:28   it's just like oh ok that clicks that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:31   i'm brian almost certain that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   intention which which is genius not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   afraid to be able to easy by having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   villain named freeze go after a CEO name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   Boyle yeah there's a lot of that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:43   yeah yeah well I believe they want a i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:47   believe they want a Daytime Emmy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:48   lighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:49   yes it for this episode 2 so note this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:52   is one of many just on Tony's list that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:55   are written by Paul Dini yes as one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:59   the best Batman writers going and good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:02   enough that you know things like mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:05   freezes origins that he reinvented or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:08   even characters like Harley Quinn who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:10   will meet in just a minute made their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:13   way into the other Batman media even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:16   into the comic book so this is harley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   was like the first character to appear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   in the animated series first and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:23   make our way into the comics and now the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   summer we'll see even more of her a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:28   literally and figuratively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:29   yeah that's not quite so so Tony I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:35   didn't like this one location [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:38   Jason yeah I'll be right there okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:41   yours Batman best episode VII but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:46   good i didn't love the sudden love this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   1i maybe it was because it was the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:49   1i watched I I like all of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:52   ones better than this one mom thanks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   you were entitled to your opinion yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:56   I don't know I it just seemed this one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:59   was expecting everything we've set up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   now like a well this is you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   different it's a darker and more complex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:04   storyline and all that and I thought wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:07   this is very it felt very saturday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:08   morning TV to me it is this one did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   feel so complex if you felt really broad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:13   abroad and kind of ridiculous and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   although i appreciated aspects of the of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:18   the writing and i really like Michael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:19   and sorrows performance which I was able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21   to pick out as a Star Trek fan I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23   immediately knew that it was him which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:24   was pretty cool so many great voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   actors in all of these episodes this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   my least favorite of them as you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   and that's fair i would say this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   maybe the weakest Mr Freeze episode you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:35   know it's again it's very early on it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37   it's just sort of setting the template [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39   right they're still finding their feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41   origin stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43   yeah I feel like part of it is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:44   recognizing what the series is up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:47   this point and how it differed from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:48   lot of other series in some ways so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:51   mean i agree with all the things have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53   been said I i also do not love this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55   episode i think i appreciate what's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:57   about it but I think some of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2157">TS</a>]

00:36:00   ones I i prefer but i think it's it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   still do you know exemplary of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:05   where this Batman is going and shows off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07   so many of the good elements we talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:08   about like where Nathan mentioned his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   mortality and the fact that he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   cold through this whole thing which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:13   detail that I love ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:15   so yeah there there's a lot of good in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:17   here and it may not be the best exemplar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:20   of the whole series but yeah nice job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:23   Tony that's the thing i love about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:26   show even when it's bad it's good even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:29   in a terrible episode there will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:30   things you can pick out that are still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:32   really strong and I didn't think I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   terrible but I was like what am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:35   getting serious i watch this one like Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:37   what am i getting about myself I'm glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:40   you kept going then I watched episode 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:42   Joker's favor and I said oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:45   yes much ice see what tony is doing here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:50   so episode 22 chokers favor you had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:54   have a joker episode on the on the list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:57   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:57   yes where is that man's greatest villain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2217">TS</a>]

00:37:00   a great performance by Mark Hamill and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:03   think this is probably my favorite one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:06   of my favorite Joker episodes is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:07   the first this is the introduction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   harley quinn like this is where that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:12   character came from i think not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:13   everybody knows that the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15   starting position and contractors we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:16   call this the first appearance because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18   she's not really introduced she's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:21   present and we don't learn until I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23   believe there's a later episode that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:24   explains our origin but here she just is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:27   present there as if she's always been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:29   well and a lot of the episodes are kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   of like that right like tony mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33   that there's no origins or if you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:34   Batman but there's also no origin story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:36   or initial meeting for the Joker right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:39   the first episode The Joker appears in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   which i think is way back episode two or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:42   three but it's not like he already knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:45   who the Joker is right it's not like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:46   this guy wandering around calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   himself the Joker looks like a clown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:49   guess I should go figure out what his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:51   deal is now he's already established as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:53   you know the Batman and Joker are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:54   already more than mortal enemies if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56   with this fate i think that was by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:59   design a lot of the other gowns get get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:01   backstories but i think by design they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:04   don't humanize the Joker and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06   episode shows you why he's terrifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08   yeah he is one of the scariest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10   characters ever in a children's cartoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12   so for people who don't work if you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   can't recall this and shot-for-shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   detail like I can promise that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   episode is there's basically unfortunate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   road rage incident between the Joker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   just a guy who lives in Gotham makeover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:25   yep and then the Joker basically like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:28   meet him on the side of the road in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:30   woods and says like I'm gonna come for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   you in two years or and he takes his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   driver's license and the guy moves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   changes his name and the Joker finds him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   and demands that he show up at a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:40   place to open a door so Harley Quinn can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42   wheel a bomb into basically you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   look like a policeman's ball type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   situation and and again an episode with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:50   there's a lot of a lot of we have a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   through the eyes of that character and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   the Joker and then Batman is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56   present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:56   indeed there's not a lot of bad man but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:59   he's he's there when he's needed i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   that the guy just curses out the Joker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:02   right and they get super be like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:05   know without knowing it's the Joker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:06   then we get that simmer it just keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:07   following them around and just like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09   whole like the whole thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:11   essentially like this I'm gonna come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13   you and ask for a favor someday like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:14   know very much feel like right now yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:16   but what I love about this episode is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:19   also that in the in the last act as our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:23   random guy decides you know I'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:26   sort of i've had enough of the Joker's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   terrorizing me the Joker freaks out at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:32   the end right and he's calling for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:33   Batman to protect him which is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:36   the best moments ever use like well this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   guy is actually crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40   these guys are going to give me like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   it's just such a great turnabout moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   of the Joker realizing it and then to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:47   show it like you know he threatened with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:48   a bomb basically of course then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   bombings at being a dud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:51   yep and Batman cracks up right like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:55   master good one yeah I mean it's just so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:58   much of that is just delightful and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00   well constructed as a joker story so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02   much more interesting than so many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:04   the Joker stories I feel like we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06   gotten more modern where he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:07   psychopath we need to show you how crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09   and like brutal and bloody he is right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:12   like he's crazy and brutal in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   episode but he's not like he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:18   reduced to just some sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:20   psychotic killer he's got weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22   dimensions like that's a sympathetic but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   like he's afraid at times to write which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:27   is a dynamic we don't often see with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:28   villains and i love that relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:31   between him the the Batman and the Joker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:33   here because it really feels it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35   captures the Joker's madness has just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:37   how random he can be like a volcano [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:39   stream rich faster on this poor guy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:42   not only does he not hurt or kill him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44   but he's like nope just you're gonna owe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   me a favor I'm gonna show up and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:49   know what my favorite yet but oh I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   see carrier right and makes his hobby [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:53   you know has a whole little diary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   keeping track of this guy's moves as he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   tries to get away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59   it just yeah and Mark Hamill just sells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:02   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:03   oh my god my loss motivation so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05   trillion bits the laugh-out-loud moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:06   for me in this episode is in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   opening scene on the freeway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:10   I where you see you at one point there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:12   a moment when you realize the Joker is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:14   driving the other car and I just started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:17   to laugh it's like boy if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:18   anybody to to get into you know get into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:21   a problem on the freeway with it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:24   have to be the Joker right and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:25   he's driving somewhere who knows where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:28   who knows why who cares to his station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:30   wagon he's just driving his hat you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32   off i love that everything's great use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34   of great use of music to I can still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:37   hear the Joker theme song in my duty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:40   do-do-do-do order dinner yeah it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:43   playful but kind of menacing about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45   about the Joker's the Joker's demeanor i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:48   would just say I think the Joker doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:51   have it together that's the impression I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   get here as he's nuts right and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55   doesn't have it together and you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:56   that in several episodes that we watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   he doesn't have together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2518">TS</a>]

00:41:59   I like that I like that more than and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:02   also the Jack Nicholson's Joker in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   in Batman 99 is similarly just nuts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:10   is actually his it's actually his great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12   flaw it's not only that he's crazy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:15   and does these crazy things but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:17   also he's crazy and that's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19   his downfall and you could argue that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21   like the heath ledger performances as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:24   the joker that that guy is much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:27   together and and then and and just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:31   it's like he's got a stick but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:35   really just a a murderer who's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:38   stick and I don't feel that way with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   this joker this joker is you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:43   Looney he just wants to have it like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   Riddler right he just kinda wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:46   play and that's good I like that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:50   that I think that's a good a fun Joker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:53   and also makes it more palatable but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   keeps coming back because of course he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   gonna keep coming back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2577">TS</a>]

00:43:00   I actually think that the fact that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   for children and that they have to imply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   things rather than showing them makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   the children even scarier I mean you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08   know it would be scary the Joker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:09   outright killed Charlie but when he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   like oh I'm gonna keep track of you I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:14   never gonna let you go you're gonna owe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16   me a favor your imagination starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18   wondering you know what's what's he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20   gonna ask for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:22   yeah it makes it more powerful because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:24   it's left up to your imagination it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26   that occurs I think throughout the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:27   series and it's one of the things I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   about it that they they use they let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:32   your imagination fill in the gaps and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   makes it even better than if they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:35   been able to show it outright war greed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2615">TS</a>]

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00:45:01   these are this is a kind of terrifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:04   to partner where there's basically an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:07   evil computer that is turning out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:08   replicants of people dependence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:11   duplicates are genetically distinct from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:14   replicants i will tell you I probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   saw i saw this show as a twelve-year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:19   was totally creeped out by it i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   think i saw blade runner and problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:22   till probably like nine or ten years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24   later in college was like oh yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:27   was like you have either the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29   creates a computer is is what William [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   Sanderson who is in his Sebastian and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:34   Blade Runner you also may know him as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:35   Larry from new heart but yeah that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:38   reference sure sure Jason they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   actually it says it's a double reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:42   because he named Karl Rossum yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:45   apec wrote Rossum's Universal robots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47   which was the first ever play that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   the first ever use the word robot so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51   it's really a triple reference random to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:53   Wayne's license plate reads are you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55   yeah the name of the place oh yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:58   i was going to add that uh actually the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00   aesthetic of this particular two-parter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:02   when i started watching at this time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04   you know older age I realized this it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:08   basically like there's a lot here that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10   basically like a Hitchcock movie like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12   needs invasion of the Body Snatchers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   again this is an episode that feat that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:16   features heavily and works heavily on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:17   Bruce Wayne on Batman right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:20   they're all trying to be like oh let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:21   see if Bruce Wayne's involve stuff gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23   stolen from him i have to also say my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25   favorite one of my favorite moments [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:26   involves Bruce Wayne you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28   security guards being like you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   stay in the Security office yeah wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:32   it's too dangerous and you all good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:33   have happened to install a secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   elevator in this corner of the security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37   of just in case I ever got like every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   corner of that building as that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:42   elevators are load-bearing elevators [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:45   I think this might be the first time in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   the series that anybody else figures out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49   that Bruce Wayne is Batman and what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:52   don't count on is that Bruce Wayne is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:54   formidable an opponent is bad right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:56   exactly that's the cliffhanger at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58   end of the first episode is yeah Bruce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00   Wayne is Batman i sent his computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:03   start he gets taken over by the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05   computer which has been taken over by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:07   hardac the supercomputer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:10   super-intelligent AI computer created by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:13   william Sanderson's a kind of how like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:15   about Girardi is very how like very how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:17   like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:18   visually I mean the whole series takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:21   the the max and dave fleischer superman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   cartoons from the fifties a big visual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   influence so ya q really comes out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:28   this which yeah this is it so fly sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:31   Superman throughout I thought but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:34   special yeah that's through the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   series yes but there's this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:37   especially the robots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:39   I like hardened steel I thought it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:40   thought it was fun i thought the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:41   a two-parter that you essentially get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:43   you get an hour-long TV show basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:46   by break by breaking it into the you got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:49   killer robot duplicates and stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:51   maligned and let's not forget to mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:54   the first appearance in the series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   barbar Gordon I was going to say yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   played here by melissa gilbert yeah as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:01   12 as a twelve-year-old boy such a crush [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:04   on Barbara hard to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   yeah yeah she's she was suspicious when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:09   her father was replaced in acceleration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:11   Rome I don't know why she's hurtin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:15   she's active and she has agency and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   like yeah well i mean granted my dad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19   came back in and like smacked my am far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:21   better clue and i loved it i love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:26   detail with a teddy bear that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:27   checkups teddy bear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29   yeah it's it's introduced you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   her person and I was worried that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33   this would infantile eyes the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35   but then she mentions that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:36   something her dad brought along and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:39   picks up the bear and blushes it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   only makes her a stronger character it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:42   makes Gordon a sweeter and a deeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:45   character and Jim Gordon is great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:47   the steps in this whole series i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:48   this vision of Jim cord [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50   yeah having watched outside of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:53   assigned reading I had to watch the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:55   row origin episodes will be reached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:56   returns in the back row origin episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:59   briefly so yeah the the consistency the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:01   attention to detail that they maintain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03   is great and I noticed that this was one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   of the rare episodes of the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07   written by a woman which is probably one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09   of the reasons why Barbara Gordon is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:10   portrayed so intelligently and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:12   competently which is awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   this episode and kind of leaves me cold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:18   which is weird because there's a ton of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:19   great stuff about it the weird crab-like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   motions the robots the whole elevator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:23   sequence Barbara Gordon the the miyazaki [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:26   like designs but for some reason this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:29   this was my least favorite of the ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   we watched yeah the weird to breathe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   it's a robot who is also a briefcase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   oh yeah that was pretty great I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:38   what Jason like Jason likes robots yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:39   the season where Ernestine where where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:42   you get the guys who are the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   duplicates who try to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:45   assimilate Bruce Wayne and do the like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:48   spider crawl thing with the rotating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50   head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:50   yeah that is still sleepy though yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:53   that was to my freaky as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55   twelve-year-old oh man i just want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   see the episode about the Wayne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:58   industries janitor who accidentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00   discovers the secret elevator in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:01   security [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:02   yeah yeah my I just touched the file [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:06   cabinet if you don't have the bat ring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:09   or whatever it just doesn't open so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   would never know unless you got bruises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:12   special bat you to the point about being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:15   mature earlier and about things you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:17   show and can't show its kind of no no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:20   pun intended shocking when they kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   Bullock right and you're like whoa like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   oh my god they threw him into this thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:27   and and obviously Barbara especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29   who's you know helps in basically does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31   that is is a gas at what she's done when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:34   she think she's killed you know Harvey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:36   Bullock and of course it turns out to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37   a robot that means a little cavalier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   about that guys like was it like its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   Clayface in disguise or something but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   has no qualms about tossing Harvey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45   Bullock into a giant spotlight well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:47   mean you have you met Harvey Bullock I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3047">TS</a>]

00:50:49   mean is that the Harvey Harvey is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:51   another great character and i love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:53   because he's a total jerk but he's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:54   basically a good guy you know he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:57   good motives he wants to do good things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:58   he just disagrees with that man and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   personally obnoxious but that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:02   mean he's a bad cop right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:04   headcanon Batman can tell the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   between our people look in the horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:07   and replicate by smell alone soap opera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:11   Barbara rescues Batman right she goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13   down to the building's gonna blow up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:15   she helps him help them out which shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:17   her her mettle as a future here are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:19   right right here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:20   not that she's made of metal she's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   robot they'll a great groundwork here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24   for her as bad Carol and and its really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   it makes sense then later on when she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   decides to do that right because right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   now you're always going to put down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:31   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:32   yeah yeah I i love that touches the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   where it's like you know that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:35   little dangerous yeah I can't have fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:38   yeah we we need to move through the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   of these because we have a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:41   still to talk about the next one is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:44   regular episode if your social so smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46   why are you rich which is said in green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:49   speckles yep another evil CEO creates a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:52   supervillain is awesome it's like open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:55   chemical baths and CEOs who are just too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   greedy leading causes of built village [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59   creators this is funny because Bruce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01   Wayne is thinking of buying this company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:03   and and he apparently a while doing his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:05   due diligence he discovers that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:07   cheated the Riddler out of his royalties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:11   and the Riddler's really mad and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:13   love the riddles Riddler is my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:15   Batman villain up because he attempts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:18   thwart or challenge Batman with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   puzzles and mysteries and those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   things that I personally enjoy and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:25   like I mean I think I like the quality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:26   of the puzzles that he presents Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:28   within this I think there are pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30   consistently amusing or clever or both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   so I around a big fan of the road i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34   think the Riddler only appears and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:37   three episodes and the entire animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   series and is that it yeah yeah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:41   those episodes really stand out they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:44   far more interesting villains to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:45   with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:46   I mean what's the Riddler but just sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:47   of like a cut-rate Joker I mean I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:50   to love them so rob him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:52   no no but i'm saying compared to say mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:54   freeze or racial ghoul or poison ivy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:58   I mean you can't go through the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3178">TS</a>]

00:52:59   list is child but John Glover john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   galvers screen Riddler's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03   yeah and I don't know it's it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05   he at least in this series I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07   that the Riddler and the Joker all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   comfortable the Joker yes he creates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:12   some puzzles and some mysteries but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   rivers on this whole other level I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:17   yes this this episode shows just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:20   this man is brilliant and even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22   he's brilliant he is not world wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:25   enough to take care of himself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27   therefore is denied of the money he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29   should have a node and therefore goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31   over the edge and turns himself into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33   into the Riddler I'll liked this episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:37   quite a bit not only because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39   river [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:39   but also because of Robin because i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:42   i'm a bit of a Robin fan you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:44   guys crushed on Batgirl when you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:45   kids i crush them right but he's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:48   bad at video games though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:49   Yeah Yeah right arm atari games but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:52   smart enough to know he's able to solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:55   some of the riddles that Batman you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57   doesn't realize yeah he it shows a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3237">TS</a>]

00:54:00   team going on in this episode once they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:03   get going and I like that I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05   the Robin thing is well and he solves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07   some of the puzzles and that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:09   again Batman uses smarts to basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:11   break the rules of the game and win [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   yeah Jack's they have floating hand of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:15   fate and flies it like a sort of flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:17   surfboard kind of thing and go sheets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:20   goes to the center of the maze so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   safety violations in this in my hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   part it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:25   yeah Gotham Gotham City citizens are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:29   incredibly blasé about personal danger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:32   I mean that they go to amusement parks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34   that are wildly dangerous and the harley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:35   and ivy episode later they openly could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   at harley quinn and poison ivy both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   them they should you by sight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41   yeah I also liked in this episode how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:45   dumb at the end you get similar to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:47   device you get that bit at the end this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   time the revenge is not as obvious or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:54   judiciary I guess as it was but yet the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3294">TS</a>]

00:55:00   the Riddler is terrifying this man who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:03   robbed him and is going to be terrifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:04   for the rest of his life and that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:07   fairly powerful ending I think oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09   really dark and creepy that's that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:12   the thing that stuck with me for years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   after seeing this episode I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:15   I'm the economics of Batman which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:18   that Wayne Enterprises buys competitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:20   on this company and it brings jobs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:22   Gotham City [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:23   so apparently this is Bruce Wayne's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25   business model is he he buys companies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:26   in other cities fires all the people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   move the intellectual property that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30   Gotham and then hires people from Gotham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32   to run them I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   ok whatever Bruce have whatever we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36   a rich guy you can do what you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:37   anything forgot them yeah I guess bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:40   jobs to the city it's important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:42   ok almost got him number 46 this is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:47   favorite episode my face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:49   it's almost got him is the the premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:52   of the episode there's a twist but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   premise is that a bunch of Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56   villains are just hanging out in a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:58   sketchy pool hall playing poker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00   talking about the times they almost got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   Batman so it's great because it's almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04   like three many episodes in one so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:08   that's a great framing device and we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:10   these little stories from the point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12   view of poison ivy the Joker the penguin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:16   and kind of a story from Killer Croc and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   to face to face to face yeah so i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:21   never forget as I told to anyone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:23   watched this episode emblazoned in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25   memory is the delivery of I throw a rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   at everything you do is a big rock rock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:31   but then the twist and is a bad man and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:34   he did that was not to that was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36   Killer Croc Batman pretending to because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   I know which is a kind of mean of Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:41   you think better to pick even better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   well he figured out when boat when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45   was poker night apparently was the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:46   way to save Catwoman when it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:48   because if you watch the other episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50   with killer croc he's actually not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:52   stupid so clearly Batman is playing his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:55   stupid because he assumes that all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:56   rest of these guys think he's stupid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:58   yeah and some of the little stories they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:00   tell are just i think particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02   over-the-top the penguin has the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:04   bird tastic 148 of june is a very of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:09   doom he's got a cassowary he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:11   humming birds that are poisonous it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:14   is the most penguin that Batman uses a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:17   hummingbird to stab another yeah i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:21   to face steals of two million dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:23   into dollar bills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:24   yeah what benefit one and that one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26   one is sorry that the comics is down the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:29   giant penny the giant penny says okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:31   it's even it's even more plausible than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33   the comic book version is very this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:36   of two episodes we watched I think all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:39   right sorry i watch the second one in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:41   which is also trapped beneath the dry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:42   quite yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:44   it's not a penny it is the only way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3464">TS</a>]

00:57:46   stop toupees yeah that's right i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:49   the attention to detail in this episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   all the little things that how they open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   on the characters hands and you can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   so much about which one is the Joker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:56   twoface just by their hands you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:59   Joker pulling up an ace from his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:01   we have you see to face pouring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03   half-and-half into his coffee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:05   I love holding onto to the the new faces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:08   always got here Suze yeah yeah yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:11   love the Joker taking a look at two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:13   phases cards as he prepares pretends to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15   wipe a tear from his eye and i love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:18   this episode shows why the Joker's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:20   different from all the other villains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:21   when the Joker mentions what his plan is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23   to do with Catwoman namely grinder up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25   turn into cat food all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   villains these dangerous criminals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29   psychopaths are shocked and horrified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:30   disgusting mind and I i love that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:34   the only human thing about the Joker in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:35   the series is that his commitment to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:37   being a total jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:39   that's the one real thing that humanizes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41   him is that no matter what no matter who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   he's with he's going to be a jerk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:44   them i also love the the episode in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:47   when he saves Catwoman eventually in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49   Harley's like you can only save you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51   only save your classic you can only save [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53   them or catch me and it's like I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   two hands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:56   yep and I drink wine from Harley you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3536">TS</a>]

00:59:00   know I had a cat once they don't always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   land on their feet and you think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:03   it for a moment you realize oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:05   harley quinn killed her cat also poker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:11   at like the animation this episode much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   better and my personal favorite shot is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15   when the could be killer croc is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17   revealed to be Batman and it's the lamps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:19   swinging yes so wet are so good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:23   yep such a good and again without like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   you know you don't have to state it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:27   outright right like there's this is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29   subtle it's nice i like it you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:31   episode is perfect I've seen whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33   seasons of television that aren't as up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:35   entertaining as this one episode agreed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3575">TS</a>]

00:59:38   and it has the nice tag at the end where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:39   Catwoman is rescued and kind of makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:42   her pitch to Batman about how they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:44   do wonderful things together and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:47   disappears and she goes to how much got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:49   him yeah so I put that i put the watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:52   list in just in basically chronological [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3592">TS</a>]

00:59:54   order but i would probably like I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:56   trying to get somebody into batman the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:58   animated series this is the episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3598">TS</a>]

00:59:58   animated series this is the episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3598">TS</a>]

01:00:00   let's start with that because i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   think there's any reason you can't just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:03   start with this one and it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:04   delightful it is i remember watching it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:06   for the first time thinking oh they ran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:07   out of money they're doing a clip show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:09   and then thinking wait a minute i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:10   haven't seen any of these grounds oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:12   gosh so next is i am the night Tony so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:18   am the night is an extremely dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   episode of batman the animated series i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:23   think it's like the it's the the this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:26   happens in a couple episodes where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:27   there's some you know it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3627">TS</a>]

01:00:28   anniversary of his parents definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:29   has to go to crime alley and place the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:31   the roses and basically Batman is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:34   dealing with that at the same time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:35   there is a shootout between a gangster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:38   and the police and Commissioner Gordon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:41   gets severely wounded by the jazzman it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:45   was just a gangster with a lot of guns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:47   but Batman it does basically have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:50   like do this like soul-searching like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:51   what is the point of all this like do I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   want to keep being Batman kind of kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:54   of question which is a pretty dark and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:56   heavy for a kids show right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:57   I i thought this was great this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59   first 1i watched when we did the rewatch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01   and I was just like man this is a kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03   show like yeah it has you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:05   there's fairly complex not just ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:08   and thoughts in here where Batman's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:09   considering you know giving stuff up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:11   I'm really making a difference but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:13   some of the dialogue in here too I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:15   like they're like I mean they're quoting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:18   like philosophers and stuff to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20   him and Leslie to each other and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   it's it's kind of a samsung i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:24   remember the like you know how deep and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:27   and thoughtful so much of this was i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:30   really i love this episode it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:31   like a polar opposite of almost got him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   but i think it may be one of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35   really best episodes of the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:37   absolutely except for the Batman helps a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:39   troubled teen storyline which feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:41   something the network shoved and leaves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:43   leaves a Korean alone do you know best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45   michael j fox yeah totally during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:48   michael j fox a lot of things that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3708">TS</a>]

01:01:50   in series does a little and big ways is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:53   setting up that you think one thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:56   it turns out that the opposite happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:57   so they set up the seth green character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59   to be a bit of a problem a small-time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:03   a small-time petty thief and Batman's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:06   responses to dump him at the mission [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:09   that Leslie works out or if i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:11   remembering that correctly and then so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:14   the next time Batman season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:16   Batman makes the mistake and assumes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:18   kid is still trouble did only to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20   discover that guess what he has made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:22   difference or by his actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:25   they've made a difference in this kid's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:26   life so I actually like that I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:30   a lot that you know you big and small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:31   the ways you know Batman can save an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:34   entire city he can save the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:35   planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:36   you can also make a difference in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:37   one kid's life and not even realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3757">TS</a>]

01:02:39   he did it and the value is that at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3759">TS</a>]

01:02:41   end what you get is you get this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:43   thing that turns Batman around and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45   think that's kinda kinda nice that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:46   punching people is not the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48   that gives bad man his kind of renewed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:51   purpose it's like this is a very human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53   things like a look at you know I I do i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:56   do make a difference and I can change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58   people slices and it's a little sappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3778">TS</a>]

01:02:59   but I I get why they did it that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:02   it's not what you expect where he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:03   you know again I punched you in the face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:05   now I feel much better about myself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3785">TS</a>]

01:03:07   my job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:08   yeah i mean i think some of the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:09   that you know the doubting you he always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:11   talking to Robin and saying like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:14   sell t-shirts of me like I've become a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3794">TS</a>]

01:03:16   cliche like that just that idea is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3796">TS</a>]

01:03:19   eight you know and it talks to the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3799">TS</a>]

01:03:20   Batman mythos over all right like is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:23   a cliché as far as hero you know comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:26   book characters and all that and I to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28   certain extent maybe but like it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30   interesting for you know a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:32   within the show to think about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3812">TS</a>]

01:03:34   hey anytime I an animated series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3814">TS</a>]

01:03:36   theoretically for kids quotes Nietzsche [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:39   it's a an interesting episode that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:41   what i say i love Kevin Conroy delivery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:44   of you are a hero gym [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:46   oh yeah so get your right there one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:49   this this again speaks to the maturity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51   of the writing in that you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53   isn't just saying outlook superhero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55   beats a bad guys right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:57   he it's asking the kids who are watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3837">TS</a>]

01:04:01   to think about their this hero on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:04   multiple levels in multiple dimensions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3844">TS</a>]

01:04:06   to say okay is a cliche or to even be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:10   evened out the idea that he's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:12   idea right that you know that's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:15   and then to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:16   you know you're a hero to gym right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:19   say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:20   yeah perfectly normal mortal human being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:23   over here is just as much of a hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:25   which she got that speaks to me as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:28   viewer goes again going to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:30   aspirational part it's like it's okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:33   and it's okay to have doubts and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35   okay to work through them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:36   well plus there's the element of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3876">TS</a>]

01:04:38   know and this goes back around to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:39   idea of a mortal Batman and I add that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3879">TS</a>]

01:04:41   another line that I remember just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:43   verbatim you know from watching this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:45   episode 20 20 years ago was the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:48   sooner or later I'll go down and might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:50   be the Joker twoface or just some punk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:52   who gets lucky and you have the ideal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:55   like yeah I mean sooner or later he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:56   gonna slip up and make a mistake because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58   he's only human and that to me is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00   of fascinating you to look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02   mortality of our superheroes and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:05   know especially in a character is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:07   predicated on a loss and grief I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:10   it's fascinating to really think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:12   that because so often are you know our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:14   comic book heroes are treated as either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:16   immortal I can't be hurt or treated as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:19   well they doesn't matter if they're hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:22   or killed its comic books will just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:23   bring them back to life and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3923">TS</a>]

01:05:25   Batman who is Prue you know preoccupied [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3925">TS</a>]

01:05:27   with the idea of sooner or later I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:29   fail did I make a difference in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:31   overall the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   yeah i was going to say for out to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35   them really quick to Nathan's point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:36   there's a Robert Frost quote in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:37   episode because he does love Leslie he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:40   has promises to keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:41   see kids you don't even you don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:42   need to go to school to study kids from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:44   that man what a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:47   yep this is the the Common Core provided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:50   by the church of Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:51   oh you know it's good Batman left behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:54   alright moving on to harley and ivy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:57   Tony alright well this is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:59   episode that is a not as much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:01   Batman as people in the Batman world you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:05   know kind of one of the big questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:06   about harley quinn is why did she put up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:09   with all that crap from the Joker who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:10   seems to be not the greatest romantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3970">TS</a>]

01:06:13   partner and so the premises episodes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3973">TS</a>]

01:06:16   know basically what happens if she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:17   finally has done with his crap and walks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:20   out on him after a fight and the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:22   is she falls in with poison ivy and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3982">TS</a>]

01:06:25   paint the town red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:26   and it's just i think it's it's a fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:30   exploration of that character I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:32   that that's a relationship then gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3992">TS</a>]

01:06:33   kind of ported over into the comics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:37   it's fun to see I mean I think there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:39   other episodes later where we got even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:40   little bit more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4000">TS</a>]

01:06:41   hardly i think it's later we get her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:43   backstory for real but I i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4003">TS</a>]

01:06:46   episodes you know I like Batman a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:48   but i like the episodes that are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:50   know Batman is a little bit more in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4010">TS</a>]

01:06:51   background that others this is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:52   Paul Dini episode and i think it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:55   fun to explore you know what would it be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:56   like for two women supervillains to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4016">TS</a>]

01:06:58   like you know Cara Gosselin apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4018">TS</a>]

01:07:00   because which you know is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4020">TS</a>]

01:07:02   frustrating both to Batman and the Joker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:05   hilariously yes seriously headline after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:08   headline of july seventh and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:09   things the players is totally getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:12   away with because they are super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4032">TS</a>]

01:07:13   competent team i like it when there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:15   people that are that are good at their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4035">TS</a>]

01:07:16   jobs and they like it and that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:18   Harley Quinn and poison ivy riviera so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:21   having not been exposed to a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4041">TS</a>]

01:07:22   Harley Quinn what I found amusing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24   this character is that she's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:26   like a an old-time movies dame like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:29   she's she's she's got the she's got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:32   kind of new yorky accent and she's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:34   separate patois yeah and she's got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36   like she's very credulous about things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:38   that she should not be credulous about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:40   you just like to go yeah like she called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4060">TS</a>]

01:07:42   like the Joker she's like well I gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44   go you know she's like he's got he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:46   he's plotting and she's just having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:48   phone call with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:49   it's kind of adorable that she's just uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4069">TS</a>]

01:07:51   you know she only had seems to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4071">TS</a>]

01:07:53   one level but I do also like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:57   fact that poison ivy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4077">TS</a>]

01:08:00   you know she poison ivy have this good a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:02   good time but they can kind of clicks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:04   a way where is the Joker's just so mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4084">TS</a>]

01:08:06   to her so I i liked this episode to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:09   poison ivy says at one point almost got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:11   him she's immune to the pain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:12   suffering of others but she really cares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4092">TS</a>]

01:08:15   about Harley which makes her a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:16   character and she's actually comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:19   and calls hardly a victim which you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:22   is pretty huge when you think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4102">TS</a>]

01:08:24   very delicately the balance is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:25   incredible but yes it's pointing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:28   domestic abuse domestic violence and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4108">TS</a>]

01:08:31   and yet you know Eva well there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:33   subtext all over the places i remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:36   as a teenager wondering where Harley and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4116">TS</a>]

01:08:38   I these pants had gone when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4118">TS</a>]

01:08:39   hang around the house commitment but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4119">TS</a>]

01:08:41   never having seen anything like that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4121">TS</a>]

01:08:43   the cartoon before and yet when I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4123">TS</a>]

01:08:45   back and watch it now it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4125">TS</a>]

01:08:46   grotesquely exploitative they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4126">TS</a>]

01:08:48   hanging out there just being pounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4128">TS</a>]

01:08:50   that's what girls when they're hanging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4130">TS</a>]

01:08:52   out by themselves yeah haha i was gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:56   say i like to particularly ending where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:58   they're trying to get away and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4138">TS</a>]

01:09:00   proclaimed loudly no man can take us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4140">TS</a>]

01:09:02   prisoner and then I believe me Montoya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:04   shows following monday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:06   yeah and it's great like to have and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4146">TS</a>]

01:09:09   will say I just to say like about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:11   and I think overall I feel like a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4151">TS</a>]

01:09:13   the portrayal of both women and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:15   minorities in this show is kind of ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:18   of its time and I think especially in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:20   the current environment where we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:21   very hyper aware of that should be hyper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4161">TS</a>]

01:09:23   aware of that i think this show is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:26   subtle and effective in the way it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4166">TS</a>]

01:09:27   that I was noticing him watching other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:29   episodes as i went back how often the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4169">TS</a>]

01:09:31   background characters are multicolored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:34   of both genders even just like the cops [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:36   driving by in some episodes you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4176">TS</a>]

01:09:38   got a lot of female cops got a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4178">TS</a>]

01:09:40   you know persons of color in in variety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4180">TS</a>]

01:09:43   of roles across this series and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4183">TS</a>]

01:09:46   that's fantastic it really feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4186">TS</a>]

01:09:47   represented as a as a kid watching this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:50   certainly I feel like I internalize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4190">TS</a>]

01:09:52   and so you know in some ways looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:54   the media that we see it today and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:57   looking back in 20 years I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4197">TS</a>]

01:09:59   sometimes we were out of ourselves 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4199">TS</a>]

01:10:00   years ago when I i love Renee Montoya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4200">TS</a>]

01:10:03   and especially later in the comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:06   seeing her as in central figure in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:07   Gotham central that was that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4207">TS</a>]

01:10:09   wonderful i'm still waiting for the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4209">TS</a>]

01:10:12   animated version of her is the question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:14   someday yep oh yeah I'm all for it ok so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4214">TS</a>]

01:10:17   that brings us to the demons quest parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4217">TS</a>]

01:10:19   1 & 2 viewers of arrow may may be amused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4219">TS</a>]

01:10:23   by this and some characters that got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4223">TS</a>]

01:10:25   ported over to arrow but hand-raised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4225">TS</a>]

01:10:27   appropriately and plotting created it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:30   a rate racial google mixed so tell us no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:34   demons quest part 1 into so this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:36   the first appearance of racial but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4236">TS</a>]

01:10:39   the kind of like the big two-part uh its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4239">TS</a>]

01:10:41   arc that he gets in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:43   Batman the Animated Series the League of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4243">TS</a>]

01:10:45   Shadows I believe that's what they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4245">TS</a>]

01:10:47   called because maybe calling the League [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4247">TS</a>]

01:10:48   of Assassins is too scary for 11 year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4248">TS</a>]

01:10:50   olds so they had previously appeared in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4250">TS</a>]

01:10:52   an episode there's a count vertigo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4252">TS</a>]

01:10:54   steals about a gun on there's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4254">TS</a>]

01:10:57   Hitchcock ass ex episode where Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4257">TS</a>]

01:11:00   has to like like closes eyes and fight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4260">TS</a>]

01:11:02   people's to avoid being losing his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:05   powers due to vertigo but anyway in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:07   episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:08   this is another episode that i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4268">TS</a>]

01:11:10   like because the show has very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:13   tones at times like I like that heart of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:15   steel is this like science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4275">TS</a>]

01:11:16   horror episode and this is almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:18   you're kind of like Indiana Jones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4278">TS</a>]

01:11:20   globe-trotting episode / James Bond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:23   slashing well that's why I kept thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4283">TS</a>]

01:11:25   where / Richard Kipling adventure yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4285">TS</a>]

01:11:28   where Batman is theoretically looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4288">TS</a>]

01:11:32   for he ends up kind of globe-trotting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4292">TS</a>]

01:11:36   because robin has been abducted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4296">TS</a>]

01:11:38   Rachel shows up and says my daughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:40   Talia who you met before has also been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:41   abducted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4301">TS</a>]

01:11:42   let's team up' included trot around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4302">TS</a>]

01:11:44   globe and see what we can find out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:46   you'll know if people who are in any way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:48   from the right Batman or arrow will not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4308">TS</a>]

01:11:50   be surprised to find out that rachel is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:52   the actual villain he is not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:54   someone looking to try to find his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:55   daughter and he's in fact he's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4315">TS</a>]

01:11:57   testing batman because he believes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4317">TS</a>]

01:11:59   Batman is capable of being his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4319">TS</a>]

01:12:01   replacement so we get a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:04   globe-trotting we get appearances of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:05   Lazarus Pit and we get this kind of epic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4325">TS</a>]

01:12:08   showdown where they they're fighting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4328">TS</a>]

01:12:10   next to this Lazarus Pit and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4330">TS</a>]

01:12:11   there's an evil satellite that's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:13   to destroy the world so this is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:14   the the Joker is kind of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:17   classic Batman rifle butt in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4337">TS</a>]

01:12:19   animated series ratio goal is like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:21   biggest villain I think that Batman feet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4341">TS</a>]

01:12:23   death has to encounter in terms of he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4343">TS</a>]

01:12:25   basically like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:26   eco-terrorists that's almost successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4346">TS</a>]

01:12:29   yeah yeah so this is I like this I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4349">TS</a>]

01:12:32   this episode feels like like an action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4352">TS</a>]

01:12:34   movie that happens to be 2 22 minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4354">TS</a>]

01:12:37   animated this one struck me is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:39   comic book of all the episodes we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:41   watched partly because this was the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4361">TS</a>]

01:12:44   instance at least in our episodes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:46   possibly in the whole series where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:48   Batman saves the entire world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50   there's no justice league around yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:52   helping him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4372">TS</a>]

01:12:53   well that's that's in part because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:54   based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4374">TS</a>]

01:12:55   the comics and it's written by dennis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4375">TS</a>]

01:12:56   o'neil the guy who wrote the comics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:58   created ratio goal on the apparent this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4378">TS</a>]

01:13:00   was actually my least favorite of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4380">TS</a>]

01:13:02   selection it for whatever reason this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4382">TS</a>]

01:13:04   one particularly felt like it was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:06   of padded kind of drawn out that if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4386">TS</a>]

01:13:10   weren't trying to feel like to entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4390">TS</a>]

01:13:12   episodes that it didn't need to be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4392">TS</a>]

01:13:15   long as it was you know poor Robin is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4395">TS</a>]

01:13:18   just you know it gets abducted then he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4398">TS</a>]

01:13:19   pretty much baggage the rest of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4399">TS</a>]

01:13:21   so this one didn't keep my attention the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:24   way the others did for some reason I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4404">TS</a>]

01:13:26   on the other side from Jana and this 1i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:28   really Rachel google is one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:30   favorites and I really like him here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4410">TS</a>]

01:13:32   especially David Warner from yes a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4412">TS</a>]

01:13:35   long time after I love his delivery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4415">TS</a>]

01:13:38   I love the testing the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4418">TS</a>]

01:13:40   immediately he's like oh yeah I totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4420">TS</a>]

01:13:42   figured out you're Bruce Wayne by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4422">TS</a>]

01:13:43   way because it's really not that hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:45   yeah i went to basically who can afford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4425">TS</a>]

01:13:48   all the crap that man has it and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:50   a description of you and basically I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:52   just ran some cross-referencing I yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4432">TS</a>]

01:13:55   the plan is comic book being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:56   over-the-top and I think that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4436">TS</a>]

01:13:58   definitely feels James Bondish to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4438">TS</a>]

01:14:00   especially at the end with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:01   satellites during the world i agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4441">TS</a>]

01:14:03   about that the stakes are a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4443">TS</a>]

01:14:04   heightened than a lot of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4444">TS</a>]

01:14:07   episodes but it does feel to me it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:09   off feeling epic and a lot of places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4449">TS</a>]

01:14:11   especially when they sort of there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4451">TS</a>]

01:14:14   both this go back into this like battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4454">TS</a>]

01:14:16   of the wits going on between between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4456">TS</a>]

01:14:18   Batman and Rachel goal as batman's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4458">TS</a>]

01:14:21   one think this guy's not on the level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4461">TS</a>]

01:14:23   but I don't want to let him into that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:25   and Rachel goals testing him and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4465">TS</a>]

01:14:27   that back and forth and I really enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:29   that I enjoy evil Rachel go after get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:32   certain to Lazarus Pit just jumps out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:35   all buff laughing maniacally it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:38   great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4478">TS</a>]

01:14:39   it's not an episode without problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:42   there's definitely uh you know tutored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:44   not retract put a dent in my previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:46   statement about the representations of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4486">TS</a>]

01:14:48   minorities and people of color this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:51   gets a little little cliche there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:53   yeah possibly kind of offensive but for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4493">TS</a>]

01:14:58   Helen Slater doesn't get to do a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4498">TS</a>]

01:15:00   lot is Talia know she's sister does get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4500">TS</a>]

01:15:03   to snap ratio go out of his kids crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:05   coma which I thought was a nice little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4505">TS</a>]

01:15:07   moment of agency real character but yea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:09   mostly she's just hey I'm standing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:12   around looking hot and slinky and doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4512">TS</a>]

01:15:13   nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4513">TS</a>]

01:15:14   yeah the the boob window unfortunate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4514">TS</a>]

01:15:17   they will be worse the window this side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:19   of power girl i guess and also there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4519">TS</a>]

01:15:22   a painful moments sisters you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:24   painful moment when a when he's trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4524">TS</a>]

01:15:26   to get Rick supposedly recruit Batman to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4526">TS</a>]

01:15:29   be the new you know his replacement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:31   because he's dying accepted because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:32   Lazarus Pit he's not dying and he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4532">TS</a>]

01:15:35   no I must have a new man to replace me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:37   and it's like I'm yeah you had to say a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:39   new man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:40   your daughter is standing right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4540">TS</a>]

01:15:42   she seemed she's got a lot going on but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:44   it's like nope not gonna do that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4544">TS</a>]

01:15:46   she's got is her yeah she's just there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4546">TS</a>]

01:15:49   to to reference Batman and to have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:52   look pretty and it's it's unfortunate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4552">TS</a>]

01:15:54   gap in keeping the one of the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4554">TS</a>]

01:15:56   places i think that the arrow version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4556">TS</a>]

01:15:58   the story did which was actually have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4558">TS</a>]

01:16:00   the daughter be like why not me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:02   yeah and there's no good answer why not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:04   write that means like yeah you are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4564">TS</a>]

01:16:06   competent you should probably do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:07   not not the hero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4567">TS</a>]

01:16:09   yeah at least at least this version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4569">TS</a>]

01:16:11   racial goal seems to actually have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4571">TS</a>]

01:16:13   like an interest in an agenda other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4573">TS</a>]

01:16:16   just the perpetuation of his own secret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4576">TS</a>]

01:16:18   societies yeah no he's just interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4578">TS</a>]

01:16:20   in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:21   David Warner super charismatic it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4581">TS</a>]

01:16:23   really well on that on that score I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4583">TS</a>]

01:16:24   liked it when he's dying dying except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:27   you know the date that you put them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:28   the Lazarus Pit he's got a moment that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:30   very reminded me very much of a scene in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4590">TS</a>]

01:16:32   Star Trek six when he's done he was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:34   don't let it in this way Batman but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:37   but he's really good and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4597">TS</a>]

01:16:39   yeah the v his some of his henchmen are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4599">TS</a>]

01:16:42   super stereotypy but i do like the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4602">TS</a>]

01:16:44   that he is so sharp and and charismatic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4604">TS</a>]

01:16:47   and such a really interesting villain in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:49   a way that the over-the-top you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:52   lot of the old-timey villains and DC's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4612">TS</a>]

01:16:54   got more of those and Marvel just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4614">TS</a>]

01:16:56   because if it was it is older where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4616">TS</a>]

01:16:59   there's like a super simple concept that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:01   is the entire concept for that villain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:03   you see this in a flash a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:05   one of the things I like about racial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4625">TS</a>]

01:17:06   cool is that he's not that he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:08   he's a mastermind is this thing he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4628">TS</a>]

01:17:11   like telling jokes or turning things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4631">TS</a>]

01:17:13   into ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4633">TS</a>]

01:17:14   he's just super smart and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4634">TS</a>]

01:17:17   deranged an evil and i like that i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4637">TS</a>]

01:17:19   his depth of character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:21   yeah he's not going to try and kill you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4641">TS</a>]

01:17:22   with a giant penny right before he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4642">TS</a>]

01:17:25   trying to save the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4645">TS</a>]

01:17:26   yeah poor or ask you a series of riddles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4646">TS</a>]

01:17:28   or or right play a practical joke on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4648">TS</a>]

01:17:31   he's that's not what he's done is he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4651">TS</a>]

01:17:32   gonna he's gonna reset the world to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4652">TS</a>]

01:17:34   better state where the human population [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:35   is you know only ten percent of what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4655">TS</a>]

01:17:37   is now that's right i'm with dan on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:40   one is even with the problems with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4660">TS</a>]

01:17:44   of the characters i I just I love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4664">TS</a>]

01:17:47   scale of it and the scope of it and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:50   if this were every episode I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4670">TS</a>]

01:17:52   like it as much but it's the only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4672">TS</a>]

01:17:55   it's it's like this one little you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:56   it's like see we can do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:57   globe-trotting adventure and we can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4677">TS</a>]

01:18:00   the immortal villain who's insane in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4680">TS</a>]

01:18:04   different way and it at the time when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:07   first thought I had never heard of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4687">TS</a>]

01:18:09   racial ma'am either and I went out and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:12   bought the tales of the demon trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4692">TS</a>]

01:18:15   paperback and just poured through all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4695">TS</a>]

01:18:17   the stuff and went oh my god Danny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4697">TS</a>]

01:18:19   O'Neil and then and that sort of led me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4699">TS</a>]

01:18:21   through the 70 0 because I really hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4701">TS</a>]

01:18:25   followed the comic books at all and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:29   so I i described got to discover this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4709">TS</a>]

01:18:31   whole new realm of Batman stories in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:33   this whole new depth of that pan that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4713">TS</a>]

01:18:35   had no idea about so i will always liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:39   this episode just for introducing me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4719">TS</a>]

01:18:41   that and and the denny o'neil and Neal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4721">TS</a>]

01:18:43   Adams version of Batman alright so what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4723">TS</a>]

01:18:46   did we learn about batman the animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:47   series we walked we walked through um I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4727">TS</a>]

01:18:51   if I'm curious well let me give you my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:54   report is a new viewer and then maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4734">TS</a>]

01:18:55   we'll go around and everybody could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:57   some last thing they love but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4737">TS</a>]

01:18:59   episode we didn't watch that you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:00   recommend i like I said I didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4740">TS</a>]

01:19:04   the first one but i liked the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:06   them I thought it was really smart i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:07   love had the look of it i love that old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4747">TS</a>]

01:19:09   style you know Fleischer Superman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4749">TS</a>]

01:19:11   cartoon kind of influence great voice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4751">TS</a>]

01:19:17   casting some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4757">TS</a>]

01:19:18   using voice casting in hindsight you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:20   really tell you know you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4760">TS</a>]

01:19:22   cast list like wow this is just amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4762">TS</a>]

01:19:24   collection of people so yeah I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4764">TS</a>]

01:19:28   it was really smart and fun and working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:30   in a format that kind of unforgiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:32   right i mean to tell a complete story in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4772">TS</a>]

01:19:33   22 minutes i can see why they do the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:35   partners because that is really tough if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4775">TS</a>]

01:19:38   you're gonna tackle this stuff to tell a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4778">TS</a>]

01:19:40   story this fast and they pack a lot in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4780">TS</a>]

01:19:42   its they're there they're very dense and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4782">TS</a>]

01:19:44   during fun is the economics of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4784">TS</a>]

01:19:46   storytelling in it are impressed you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4786">TS</a>]

01:19:48   I like that I like that at times it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:50   a sense of humor to like that moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:51   that we mentioned where Batman Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:53   laughs uh the he I the batman animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4793">TS</a>]

01:19:59   series that i watch the most is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:01   batman the brave and the bold because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4801">TS</a>]

01:20:02   was coming out at exactly the right age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:04   for my son to become obsessed with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4804">TS</a>]

01:20:06   and so I watched a lot of those and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4806">TS</a>]

01:20:08   thing I liked about that now is a much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4808">TS</a>]

01:20:09   lighter lighter tone but the thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4809">TS</a>]

01:20:11   loved about that series was Batman it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4811">TS</a>]

01:20:14   can be very funny and not not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:17   necessarily in the campy Adam West way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:19   but in the very superdry Batman way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:24   where he seen it all he's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4824">TS</a>]

01:20:26   weary and he can comment on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:29   goings-on around him in a way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:31   know he's got he's so serious and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:33   villains are also wild that he it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4833">TS</a>]

01:20:36   room for a lot of really dry hilarious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4836">TS</a>]

01:20:38   commentary and I love that about batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4838">TS</a>]

01:20:40   the brave and the bold but there is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4840">TS</a>]

01:20:41   of that here and every time I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:44   something like that I just loved it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:46   because I feel like that's like we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:47   we don't we don't see that enough of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4847">TS</a>]

01:20:49   Batman's ride commentary about all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:51   stupid things that are going on around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:52   him and I enjoy it when when it happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4852">TS</a>]

01:20:54   so yeah I liked it as a return viewer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4854">TS</a>]

01:20:58   RSA is a new viewer I who missed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4858">TS</a>]

01:21:01   first time around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4861">TS</a>]

01:21:02   so that's my that's my take ok let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:03   around and if you've got any last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4863">TS</a>]

01:21:05   thoughts and an episode that you love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4865">TS</a>]

01:21:07   maybe that wasn't on Tony's Tony's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:09   excellent top 10 list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4869">TS</a>]

01:21:11   David what do you think well I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4871">TS</a>]

01:21:14   love so many episodes but everyone David [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4874">TS</a>]

01:21:17   one well yeah I i will i will pick the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:20   two feature films because that man Mr [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4880">TS</a>]

01:21:23   Freeze of 0 is brilliant part of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:26   didn't you understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4886">TS</a>]

01:21:27   i love the fact that mask of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:29   phantasm gave my father nightmares I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:32   just like when we asked you to pick one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:34   episode and you can be moved to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:35   sub-zero myself because David picks up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4895">TS</a>]

01:21:40   the first 20 minutes of sub-zero Nathan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:42   what about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4902">TS</a>]

01:21:43   beware the Gray Ghost Batman has with an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4903">TS</a>]

01:21:46   out-of-work actor who played his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4906">TS</a>]

01:21:48   childhood superhero I know plate played [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4908">TS</a>]

01:21:50   by adding side west [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4910">TS</a>]

01:21:52   yes it's a beautiful performance it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4912">TS</a>]

01:21:54   moving it's funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4914">TS</a>]

01:21:55   it works on multiple levels it's maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4915">TS</a>]

01:21:57   his best batman performance ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4917">TS</a>]

01:21:59   it's maybe Adam was best performance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4919">TS</a>]

01:22:01   ever period Shannon um there's still so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4921">TS</a>]

01:22:05   many ok I'm going weird with sideshow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4925">TS</a>]

01:22:10   which is someone that features Killer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4930">TS</a>]

01:22:13   Croc who in trying to escape Batman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4933">TS</a>]

01:22:15   falls in with this group of circus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4935">TS</a>]

01:22:18   freaks that you know are no longer with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4938">TS</a>]

01:22:21   the circus and just trying to survive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4941">TS</a>]

01:22:22   together and you know for a short brief [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:25   moment of time killer croc has found his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4945">TS</a>]

01:22:28   tribe and people that you know accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4948">TS</a>]

01:22:30   him for who he is don't judge him don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4950">TS</a>]

01:22:32   think he's horrifying you know and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4952">TS</a>]

01:22:35   of course you know Batman has to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4955">TS</a>]

01:22:37   and take him back because he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4957">TS</a>]

01:22:39   committing crimes when Batman was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4959">TS</a>]

01:22:40   chasing him just do the way they explore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4960">TS</a>]

01:22:44   from the side so many of these classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:47   characters or introduce characters in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4967">TS</a>]

01:22:50   such a way that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4970">TS</a>]

01:22:52   multi-dimensional that there's more to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4972">TS</a>]

01:22:54   them than just our than just being bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4974">TS</a>]

01:22:57   that some one of the things i love about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4977">TS</a>]

01:22:58   this series damn about you how the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4978">TS</a>]

01:23:02   thing I friend forgot to mention overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4982">TS</a>]

01:23:04   that I really want to mention a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4984">TS</a>]

01:23:06   things one I love the title cards not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4986">TS</a>]

01:23:09   something you see done in a lot of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4989">TS</a>]

01:23:11   shows of this ilk they're beautifully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4991">TS</a>]

01:23:13   animated and you get the writer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4993">TS</a>]

01:23:15   director like really upfront which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4995">TS</a>]

01:23:17   feel like it's something that was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4997">TS</a>]

01:23:18   also acknowledged and a lot of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4998">TS</a>]

01:23:19   animated shows of this era to just to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/4999">TS</a>]

01:23:23   take away like sort of your talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5003">TS</a>]

01:23:24   the character of Batman upfront and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5004">TS</a>]

01:23:27   think for me again i internalized a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5007">TS</a>]

01:23:29   of what was shown here this version of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5009">TS</a>]

01:23:31   Batman in terms of like beyond the code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5011">TS</a>]

01:23:34   of honor I think I think informed a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5014">TS</a>]

01:23:36   of you know just personally like things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5016">TS</a>]

01:23:38   that I think about like well there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5018">TS</a>]

01:23:39   justice and fair play like those are all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5019">TS</a>]

01:23:41   really important qualities here in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5021">TS</a>]

01:23:42   Batman is not someone who has spent like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5022">TS</a>]

01:23:45   constantly watching them to the edge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5025">TS</a>]

01:23:46   this is someone who is has a strong code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5026">TS</a>]

01:23:49   and it here's to it pretty much the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5029">TS</a>]

01:23:51   whole way through with occasion you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5031">TS</a>]

01:23:52   couple minor doubts here and there but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5032">TS</a>]

01:23:54   think you know essentially always tries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5034">TS</a>]

01:23:56   to do the right thing and that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5036">TS</a>]

01:23:58   is what we look for in our heroes and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5038">TS</a>]

01:24:00   particular that's what informed you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5040">TS</a>]

01:24:02   my understanding of superheroes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5042">TS</a>]

01:24:04   heroes and generals well so i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5044">TS</a>]

01:24:06   appreciate that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5046">TS</a>]

01:24:07   as for favorite episodes i already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5047">TS</a>]

01:24:09   mentioned I'm a big bat girl fan so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5049">TS</a>]

01:24:11   actually watched shadow the bad parts 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5051">TS</a>]

01:24:13   for this and I will say that those are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5053">TS</a>]

01:24:15   personally I think one of my other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5055">TS</a>]

01:24:18   favorite episode so love those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5058">TS</a>]

01:24:20   yes yeah they're they're great they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5060">TS</a>]

01:24:22   there one there one episode intense ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5062">TS</a>]

01:24:24   and Tony did you do you have a favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5064">TS</a>]

01:24:27   episode that's not among the 10 that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5067">TS</a>]

01:24:29   yourself picked out my list i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5069">TS</a>]

01:24:33   heavily sedated toward episodes that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:34   my favorite on the one that didn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5074">TS</a>]

01:24:36   my list i would put a shadow the bat as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5076">TS</a>]

01:24:39   that was the next on the list of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5079">TS</a>]

01:24:42   Damned picked it which is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5082">TS</a>]

01:24:43   the next one I probably would add to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5083">TS</a>]

01:24:45   list is more of a personal favorite for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5085">TS</a>]

01:24:47   me i don't know if it has much broader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5087">TS</a>]

01:24:48   appeal the man who killed Batman values [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5088">TS</a>]

01:24:52   yes Sid the squid who's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5092">TS</a>]

01:24:54   nebbish incompetent get wannabe gangster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5094">TS</a>]

01:24:57   appears to have inadvertently killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5097">TS</a>]

01:24:59   Batman and basically uh wins the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5099">TS</a>]

01:25:03   adoration of all the other like hoods in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5103">TS</a>]

01:25:05   Gotham but then gets like interrogated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5105">TS</a>]

01:25:08   by Rupert thorne and then later abducted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5108">TS</a>]

01:25:10   by the Joker who and who brings them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5110">TS</a>]

01:25:11   like a funeral for Batman who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5111">TS</a>]

01:25:14   outraged that not only is Batman dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5114">TS</a>]

01:25:16   but that's it the squid killed him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5116">TS</a>]

01:25:18   spoiling this pedestal and not a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5118">TS</a>]

01:25:21   of the Joker in the whole series yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5121">TS</a>]

01:25:22   broken it's beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5122">TS</a>]

01:25:24   yeah it is and it yeah and that is matt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5124">TS</a>]

01:25:26   frewer the man behind max & erma's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5126">TS</a>]

01:25:28   voices of the squid and and let us not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5128">TS</a>]

01:25:30   forget I've got that man in my base that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5130">TS</a>]

01:25:33   would let Tony hates me so much for even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5133">TS</a>]

01:25:37   mentioning it like that was not high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5137">TS</a>]

01:25:39   it's ridiculous them that it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5139">TS</a>]

01:25:41   the unfortunate ones where it's like can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5141">TS</a>]

01:25:44   you have something that appeals to kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5144">TS</a>]

01:25:45   that doesn't have kids in it so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5145">TS</a>]

01:25:46   like a kid has to rescue Batman um it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5146">TS</a>]

01:25:49   and there's like a home alone sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5149">TS</a>]

01:25:50   it I I the Church of Batman recognize it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5150">TS</a>]

01:25:53   as a batman the animated series episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5153">TS</a>]

01:25:55   and we leave it at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5155">TS</a>]

01:25:56   it's Apocrypha alright well Tony how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5156">TS</a>]

01:25:58   you think we did have we do thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5158">TS</a>]

01:26:00   for putting together rrr list here did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5160">TS</a>]

01:26:02   we sufficiently praise Batman I think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5162">TS</a>]

01:26:05   thank you for sticking with you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5165">TS</a>]

01:26:06   thought ten episodes was reasonable but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5166">TS</a>]

01:26:08   I realized that was a significant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5168">TS</a>]

01:26:09   understand undertaking so I appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5169">TS</a>]

01:26:11   that everybody did that I like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5171">TS</a>]

01:26:13   people had different favorite and least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5173">TS</a>]

01:26:15   favorite on a list i feel like i did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5175">TS</a>]

01:26:17   good job at making a list that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5177">TS</a>]

01:26:20   there were once that people have very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5180">TS</a>]

01:26:21   strong feelings about so that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5181">TS</a>]

01:26:22   good i'm sure we're going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5182">TS</a>]

01:26:24   listener mail from people who are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5184">TS</a>]

01:26:25   why didn't you include XYZ nerds you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5185">TS</a>]

01:26:29   wrong haha that's what's really good I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5189">TS</a>]

01:26:33   don't know a case can be made for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5193">TS</a>]

01:26:35   tooth for the two-faced episode the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5195">TS</a>]

01:26:37   days episode is net i have a list that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5197">TS</a>]

01:26:38   goes I the original list was 20 episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5198">TS</a>]

01:26:41   long was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5201">TS</a>]

01:26:42   yeah I would've added like Robins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5202">TS</a>]

01:26:44   reckoning yeah that's ever happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5204">TS</a>]

01:26:46   me but you guys literally made when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5206">TS</a>]

01:26:48   next level is so and that all i can say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5208">TS</a>]

01:26:50   is only 20 i look forward to our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5210">TS</a>]

01:26:53   forthcoming podcast random Batman you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5213">TS</a>]

01:26:56   ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5216">TS</a>]

01:26:57   I can imagine with every episode of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5217">TS</a>]

01:27:00   Batman series animated and live-action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5220">TS</a>]

01:27:01   plus the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5221">TS</a>]

01:27:03   it's gonna be great look for look for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5223">TS</a>]

01:27:04   Tony single are stirring around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5224">TS</a>]

01:27:06   bring a bad man i'm already doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5226">TS</a>]

01:27:07   podcast I just don't record or releasing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5227">TS</a>]

01:27:09   all right here in my house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5229">TS</a>]

01:27:12   yeah probably so alright well that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5232">TS</a>]

01:27:15   has been a lot of fun and I enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5235">TS</a>]

01:27:17   finally seeing this show that I've heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5237">TS</a>]

01:27:19   so much about but never really actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5239">TS</a>]

01:27:21   sat down and watched so thank you to my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5241">TS</a>]

01:27:23   my guests for talking about it with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5243">TS</a>]

01:27:25   on this episode of the uncomfortable dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5245">TS</a>]

01:27:27   more'n thank you as always we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5247">TS</a>]

01:27:29   Batman Jason ok Batman David Laura Thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5249">TS</a>]

01:27:33   You Batman I hi i am i'm also robin i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5253">TS</a>]

01:27:36   think sometimes make maybe a Nightwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5256">TS</a>]

01:27:38   anyway sounds like a person general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5258">TS</a>]

01:27:40   Nathan alderman great to have you on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5260">TS</a>]

01:27:42   after many years of service in other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5262">TS</a>]

01:27:44   media to come to the uncomfortable this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5264">TS</a>]

01:27:46   time thanks for being here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5266">TS</a>]

01:27:47   thanks for letting me be your sidekick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5267">TS</a>]

01:27:49   are you can get you can get in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5269">TS</a>]

01:27:51   sidecar anytime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5271">TS</a>]

01:27:52   Shannon southern thank you for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5272">TS</a>]

01:27:55   here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5275">TS</a>]

01:27:56   you're welcome back girl already know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5276">TS</a>]

01:27:58   yeah and Tony sindelar thank you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5278">TS</a>]

01:28:01   putting this together made Batman always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5281">TS</a>]

01:28:04   be with you tonight hurts and I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5284">TS</a>]

01:28:07   top that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5287">TS</a>]

01:28:08   thanks everybody for listening to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5288">TS</a>]

01:28:09   episode of the incomparable we will see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5289">TS</a>]

01:28:11   you next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5291">TS</a>]

01:28:23   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYjtGY8/5303">TS</a>]