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2: A Feeling of Vertigo

 

00:00:00   interoperable Titus number two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/0">TS</a>]

00:00:04   august 2010 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/4">TS</a>]

00:00:11   so one of the premises of doing comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/11">TS</a>]

00:00:16   on this podcast is not to talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/16">TS</a>]

00:00:20   minutiae of the continuity happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/20">TS</a>]

00:00:23   with single issues being released this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/23">TS</a>]

00:00:25   week in the comic book stores and to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/25">TS</a>]

00:00:28   have to take it back level talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30   things on the level of stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/30">TS</a>]

00:00:31   largely available and trade paperback or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/31">TS</a>]

00:00:33   hardcover so you can get in your comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/33">TS</a>]

00:00:35   store or your local bookstore or on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/35">TS</a>]

00:00:37   amazon or a readers as you to both have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39   done yes we have iPads here right with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41   our topic here so one of us did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43   legally and the what other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/43">TS</a>]

00:00:45   maybe not as much right yeah it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/45">TS</a>]

00:00:46   shame well i think that that you stole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/46">TS</a>]

00:00:48   that book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/48">TS</a>]

00:00:49   Lisa anyone happy i'm jason l and i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/49">TS</a>]

00:00:53   here with just to make it extra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/53">TS</a>]

00:00:54   confusing jason reitman hello and Lisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/54">TS</a>]

00:00:57   Schmeisser hi there and we're here to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/57">TS</a>]

00:00:59   talk comics it's funny that I'm in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/59">TS</a>]

00:01:01   room with people who probably do visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/61">TS</a>]

00:01:04   comic stores regularly i am a fraud and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/64">TS</a>]

00:01:07   and do not i am a trade paperback kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/67">TS</a>]

00:01:10   of person or a digital download kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12   person but i like the idea of doing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/72">TS</a>]

00:01:14   comic book club and and picking comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/74">TS</a>]

00:01:17   that is available readily in bookstores [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19   and then talking about animal i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/79">TS</a>]

00:01:21   go off on some tangent our topic this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/81">TS</a>]

00:01:24   week is the unwritten which is from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/84">TS</a>]

00:01:25   vertigo by mike perry and peanut grown i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/85">TS</a>]

00:01:28   carry and Peter grass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30   mhm this was lisa selection in the comic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32   book club i believe yes very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34   selection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/94">TS</a>]

00:01:34   thank you Mike carries name sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/94">TS</a>]

00:01:36   vaguely familiar but I know nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38   about this comic and went into it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/98">TS</a>]

00:01:40   no expectations whatsoever beyond the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/100">TS</a>]

00:01:42   sort of one sentence line that you used [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/102">TS</a>]

00:01:45   to describe it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/105">TS</a>]

00:01:46   lisa said you want to explain to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/106">TS</a>]

00:01:48   what what this story is about sure i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50   start with my kerry and Peter groans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/110">TS</a>]

00:01:52   both of whom have been in the vertigo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/112">TS</a>]

00:01:53   stable for quite a while they worked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55   together previously on Lucifer series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   comic books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/117">TS</a>]

00:01:58   Lucifer series was a spinoff from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/118">TS</a>]

00:02:01   Sandman books so these guys have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/121">TS</a>]

00:02:03   lineage that goes back to like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   nineties to be getting vertigo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/125">TS</a>]

00:02:06   yeah exactly so and vertigo is ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/126">TS</a>]

00:02:09   Amir and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/129">TS</a>]

00:02:10   and is that a creator-owned or is that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/130">TS</a>]

00:02:13   that's DC own which is why the Sandman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/133">TS</a>]

00:02:16   was in there buddy it's it's so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/136">TS</a>]

00:02:18   their adult line is that the best way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/138">TS</a>]

00:02:20   describe it over there almost every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/140">TS</a>]

00:02:21   trader fiction they're not in tights and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   flights line for lack of a better word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/143">TS</a>]

00:02:25   their stories tend to focus on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27   supernatural or on Norrish elements or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/147">TS</a>]

00:02:30   on narratives that are not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/150">TS</a>]

00:02:32   something and find in mainstream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/152">TS</a>]

00:02:34   publishers like DC Marvel image to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/154">TS</a>]

00:02:37   examples of their current line the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   Northlanders the author of whom eludes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41   me but is basically writing stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/161">TS</a>]

00:02:43   about Vikings and another is you guys an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/163">TS</a>]

00:02:46   alternate universe somewhere Viking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/166">TS</a>]

00:02:47   comments like a mainstream and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49   superheroes are like insanely readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   can watch me that will come up higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/171">TS</a>]

00:02:54   and water rights but you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/174">TS</a>]

00:02:55   there's get by kings are big there yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/175">TS</a>]

00:02:57   and for is the only crossover hero there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59   yeah but another one of Vertigo's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   more critically beloved at the moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/181">TS</a>]

00:03:02   scalped which is a book about Native [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/182">TS</a>]

00:03:04   American FBI agent who has to go work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/184">TS</a>]

00:03:07   undercover on the deeply corrupt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/187">TS</a>]

00:03:08   reservation on which he was raised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/188">TS</a>]

00:03:10   so again on titan on flight for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/190">TS</a>]

00:03:13   they were really into face supernatural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/193">TS</a>]

00:03:15   stuff and they've moved away from that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/195">TS</a>]

00:03:16   thank God but the unwritten actions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/196">TS</a>]

00:03:20   right back into it more or less because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/200">TS</a>]

00:03:21   the entire book is about the power of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/201">TS</a>]

00:03:24   stories to shape people's perceptions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/204">TS</a>]

00:03:27   reality or even to create reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/207">TS</a>]

00:03:30   depending on who has power over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/210">TS</a>]

00:03:32   story and what kind of authority the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/212">TS</a>]

00:03:33   audience gives them that was I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35   the theme of this whole first book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/215">TS</a>]

00:03:36   pointing out that Tommy Taylor that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/216">TS</a>]

00:03:38   know hate stories can be truth truth can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/218">TS</a>]

00:03:39   be sorry so the concept here is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   this is guy named Tommy Taylor Thomas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43   Taylor and his father was a novelist and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/223">TS</a>]

00:03:47   he wrote a series of books that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/227">TS</a>]

00:03:48   suspiciously similar to harry potter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/228">TS</a>]

00:03:51   books they are impacting to the point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   where it's actually hilarious because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/233">TS</a>]

00:03:54   they're there's instead of having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/234">TS</a>]

00:03:56   lightning scar on his forehead he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/236">TS</a>]

00:03:57   a tattoo on the back of his hand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59   writing style is uncannily rolling like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   with the adverbial explosions right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/241">TS</a>]

00:04:04   harry potter was actually sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   similar to the books of magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/246">TS</a>]

00:04:09   Tim Hunter would you also a vertigo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   title interested in your gross worked on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/251">TS</a>]

00:04:14   the Tim Hunter books of magic all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/254">TS</a>]

00:04:15   way through the run of the series so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17   it's all kind of come back around yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/257">TS</a>]

00:04:18   there's a lot of self-referential things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/258">TS</a>]

00:04:20   how many even mentioned the the books of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/260">TS</a>]

00:04:22   magic in the first issue of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   unwritten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/264">TS</a>]

00:04:24   when they're talking about harry potter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/264">TS</a>]

00:04:25   and the similarities of all three of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27   them i'm amused by the fact that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29   it's tommy taylor and his two sidekicks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31   said the girl and the boy and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/271">TS</a>]

00:04:32   a very round remaining kind of thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/272">TS</a>]

00:04:35   then one of the issues opens amusingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/275">TS</a>]

00:04:37   there's a writer's retreat at the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   where it's not really a fan and and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/279">TS</a>]

00:04:42   of the writers has written this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44   fanfiction we're essentially all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   lovable kid characters disemboweled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/286">TS</a>]

00:04:49   and so at you you think you're watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/289">TS</a>]

00:04:51   another example from the book including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53   the pros passages and everything in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/293">TS</a>]

00:04:54   and it turns out that it's this horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   kind of what if we killed them all kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/296">TS</a>]

00:04:59   of thing which which place with yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/299">TS</a>]

00:05:00   another theme of this comic which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02   it's all about creation and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/302">TS</a>]

00:05:04   creativity and creation of fictional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/304">TS</a>]

00:05:06   ideas and how in the in the premise of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/306">TS</a>]

00:05:09   the comic they clash with reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/309">TS</a>]

00:05:11   because this is Tom Taylor isn't Tommy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/311">TS</a>]

00:05:13   Taylor but everybody assumes he is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   then there's this spin on it which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/315">TS</a>]

00:05:16   that you start to wonder if perhaps he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/316">TS</a>]

00:05:19   is and that this might have been based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/319">TS</a>]

00:05:21   or unreality or the book created the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23   reality more created him or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/323">TS</a>]

00:05:26   fascinating and with the only the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/326">TS</a>]

00:05:28   trade which is five issues there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/328">TS</a>]

00:05:31   answer and if you'd read the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/331">TS</a>]

00:05:32   trailer I guess you've got an answer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34   I haven't the second trade can not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/334">TS</a>]

00:05:35   this wednesday so our time we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/335">TS</a>]

00:05:38   vary time yeah not available digitally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/338">TS</a>]

00:05:39   yes you're downloading something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/339">TS</a>]

00:05:42   pirated because it's almost like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/342">TS</a>]

00:05:43   detective story in that you have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/343">TS</a>]

00:05:45   first four episodes which introduced you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47   to Tommy and the dilemma and the themes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/347">TS</a>]

00:05:50   that will reverberate throughout the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/350">TS</a>]

00:05:51   entire series and then you've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/351">TS</a>]

00:05:53   story of record kipling and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55   encounter with the same people and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/355">TS</a>]

00:05:57   it turned out for him in that last one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/357">TS</a>]

00:05:58   with Kipling it kind of restated the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   themes but not much more obvious in case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/360">TS</a>]

00:06:03   you didn't get it from the first four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/363">TS</a>]

00:06:04   issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/364">TS</a>]

00:06:04   here's what we're really talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/364">TS</a>]

00:06:05   it was like a fill-in issue because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/365">TS</a>]

00:06:08   a standalone thing but yet it was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/368">TS</a>]

00:06:09   that lets minded back now that you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11   been dropped in the middle of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/371">TS</a>]

00:06:13   and wanted back and show you that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/373">TS</a>]

00:06:14   has been going on for some time because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16   even read kipling and Mark Twain once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   wrote by these demonic evil strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   people who get it from this power felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/380">TS</a>]

00:06:23   very classic vertigo in that way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/383">TS</a>]

00:06:26   very much to like those earlier stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/386">TS</a>]

00:06:28   in The Sandman and things where every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/388">TS</a>]

00:06:29   now and then there would be an issue or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31   a chapter that sort of stepped back from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   the ongoing narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35   kind of reiterate themes of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37   narrative because they worked with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/397">TS</a>]

00:06:38   Shakespeare into the original Sandman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/398">TS</a>]

00:06:39   series as one of the fictional people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41   what I was going to say is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/401">TS</a>]

00:06:44   things I found interesting was how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/404">TS</a>]

00:06:45   had the British writer who made his deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47   with the devil is that were and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/407">TS</a>]

00:06:49   American writer who saw right through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/409">TS</a>]

00:06:50   shortly before the sinister overload [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52   stable you know America's what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54   on and I was actually wondering if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56   was kind of these American writers way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58   of thumbing their nose at vertigo or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00   thumbing their nose that their forebears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/420">TS</a>]

00:07:01   because vertigo had that long tradition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   of they've got a lot of British writers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05   in their stable and these British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/425">TS</a>]

00:07:06   writers have been great about plundering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08   classic literature classic comics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/428">TS</a>]

00:07:11   these are American writers saying you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/431">TS</a>]

00:07:12   know what we can do the same thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/432">TS</a>]

00:07:13   we're gonna do it on our terms and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/433">TS</a>]

00:07:14   would like to take you along for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16   ride and see how it turns out my carries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/436">TS</a>]

00:07:17   American it was I just assumed he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/437">TS</a>]

00:07:20   british she's working for vertigo now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   actually i just read his bio this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/442">TS</a>]

00:07:23   morning and I believe he and Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/443">TS</a>]

00:07:25   grocer both American one of them was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/445">TS</a>]

00:07:27   from response and I think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/447">TS</a>]

00:07:30   which is never know game in this now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/450">TS</a>]

00:07:32   though you didn't Minnesota high kick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34   some horrible and Midwestern a British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/454">TS</a>]

00:07:38   pipeline back and forth where they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40   keep importing this right Ellen full but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42   i think i've had made notes early on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   the series how my carrier was born in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46   Liverpool England there goes my re or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/466">TS</a>]

00:07:50   just read exercises vertical lives in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   London yeah is all about those on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54   goes my theory because I honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/474">TS</a>]

00:07:55   thought they're making a statement about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   the way Americans tend to see their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   stories as opposed to the British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/479">TS</a>]

00:08:00   tradition of of storytelling legend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/480">TS</a>]

00:08:03   where when you think about the British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/483">TS</a>]

00:08:04   have this tradition of King Arthur that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06   goes back thousands of years and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08   been polished and and modified through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10   different historic cycles it certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   is fascinating because this story set in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/492">TS</a>]

00:08:13   London initially and then and then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15   moved to the mainland Europe bi and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/495">TS</a>]

00:08:19   characters are and references are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/499">TS</a>]

00:08:20   largely for british authors and then so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22   in this fifth issue the the last part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/502">TS</a>]

00:08:25   the trade paperback vol.1 when Mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/505">TS</a>]

00:08:28   Twain appears and there's this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/508">TS</a>]

00:08:30   seen in the US where Kipling comes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/510">TS</a>]

00:08:32   meet Mark Twain it is kind of in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/512">TS</a>]

00:08:34   interesting question of what it what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/514">TS</a>]

00:08:37   you trying to say here and because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/517">TS</a>]

00:08:38   did sort of see through it and was able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   to create this work and so one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   questions in this series is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/522">TS</a>]

00:08:44   it is the series saying that creativity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   is essentially a magical power that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/526">TS</a>]

00:08:49   enabled by this in in the series case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/529">TS</a>]

00:08:52   this this source or is it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   and is it is it subvert it in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/534">TS</a>]

00:08:57   but it does exist otherwise because Mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   Twain and told them to to hit the bricks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/539">TS</a>]

00:09:02   yeah and Mark Twain is Mark Twain right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/542">TS</a>]

00:09:05   well i don't think your theory is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/545">TS</a>]

00:09:06   actually wrong even though it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/546">TS</a>]

00:09:10   just maybe we just move my carrier rise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12   to see but it actually was nothing more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   to a sort of classic British perception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/554">TS</a>]

00:09:17   of not just American writers but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   American person you know sort of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21   like wisdom in the simple people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23   approaching well of course mark twain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   wouldn't fall for this because he's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/565">TS</a>]

00:09:26   of the earth and folksy that he would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/566">TS</a>]

00:09:29   see right through all of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/569">TS</a>]

00:09:30   manipulation and of the shadowy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   organization and where the Brits of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/572">TS</a>]

00:09:35   course would fall right into it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/575">TS</a>]

00:09:36   they're all about there might also be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   some this might also be above the theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   that later ties into the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42   fictitious geography because at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/582">TS</a>]

00:09:45   of the trade they they do have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/585">TS</a>]

00:09:46   excerpt from Wilson Taylor's map where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   he puts in pins right so Tommy Tommy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50   father the one thing that Tommy ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   really did the bond with his father the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/592">TS</a>]

00:09:54   writer was that his father taught him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/594">TS</a>]

00:09:56   the geographic locations where things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/596">TS</a>]

00:09:59   that were fictional happened yes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/599">TS</a>]

00:10:02   which seemed to be important not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/602">TS</a>]

00:10:03   important at the time but seems to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   very important to becoming more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/605">TS</a>]

00:10:06   important now especially since it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   he breaks into the safe it's remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/608">TS</a>]

00:10:09   what I taught you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/609">TS</a>]

00:10:10   right right so so so it's very much this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/610">TS</a>]

00:10:13   question of like what it what is how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/613">TS</a>]

00:10:15   does fiction and meet reality and does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17   it does it is there a sense of place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19   rightly yeah and it's actually one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/619">TS</a>]

00:10:22   the parts of the book i liked the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24   as I've always been somewhat interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26   in where fictional things happen in real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/626">TS</a>]

00:10:29   life in growing up in New England and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/629">TS</a>]

00:10:31   going to the Hawthorne is House of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/631">TS</a>]

00:10:34   Seven Gables and in New York City always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/634">TS</a>]

00:10:37   be in some random bar and be a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/637">TS</a>]

00:10:38   plaque that the gift of the magi was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/638">TS</a>]

00:10:41   written here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/641">TS</a>]

00:10:41   yeah I always wanted to go down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   Greenwich Village and see where dr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/643">TS</a>]

00:10:44   Strange's house isn't right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46   yeah because it's a real address and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48   there's nothing there and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/648">TS</a>]

00:10:49   that's part of the joke is that people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/649">TS</a>]

00:10:50   who don't know him he's hidden his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/650">TS</a>]

00:10:53   sanctum sanctorum behind 7-eleven or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/653">TS</a>]

00:10:56   whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/656">TS</a>]

00:10:57   is that right there it in the the soil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/657">TS</a>]

00:10:59   literary gps so I think they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/659">TS</a>]

00:11:02   haven't but it is also interesting in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04   that the book is talking about where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06   fiction and reality meet and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/666">TS</a>]

00:11:09   locations are at last sort of physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/669">TS</a>]

00:11:12   place of where these things eat this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   real and the unreal so who is this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   who is this antagonist this bearded guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   with a scythe who kills everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/678">TS</a>]

00:11:21   sorry to spoil alert because everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/681">TS</a>]

00:11:24   and everybody in this house except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26   Tommy Taylor you know do what we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/686">TS</a>]

00:11:28   about this guy is he he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/688">TS</a>]

00:11:30   representative of some force that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32   been around and that is steering writers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   to write about certain families why he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/694">TS</a>]

00:11:36   killed Kipling's daughter spoiler rayon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/696">TS</a>]

00:11:39   we also know that he lost his hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41   courtesy of wilson because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/701">TS</a>]

00:11:42   mentioned that let's take his other hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44   yeah they mentioned that in the book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/704">TS</a>]

00:11:46   the hand is imbued with some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48   magical power because when Tommy goes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50   visit Wilson's former mistress after she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/710">TS</a>]

00:11:53   delivers the message that this literary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/713">TS</a>]

00:11:55   cabal tells her to it turns out that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/715">TS</a>]

00:11:58   also tried to slip in a little something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/718">TS</a>]

00:11:59   for Tommy and he threatened her with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   hands you've seen this hand you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/721">TS</a>]

00:12:03   what it can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/723">TS</a>]

00:12:03   right right and he does suggest at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/723">TS</a>]

00:12:05   point that he's the devil although it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/725">TS</a>]

00:12:07   was actually discussed this with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/727">TS</a>]

00:12:08   line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/728">TS</a>]

00:12:09   great I'm Lucifer the bringer of light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11   says the siam whose lighting his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/731">TS</a>]

00:12:12   cigarette and he says you might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/732">TS</a>]

00:12:13   been off by a few feet on that one right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   also interesting in the metal thing from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/735">TS</a>]

00:12:18   the fact that might carry the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   popular vertigo book was Lucifer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   Lightbringer yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/742">TS</a>]

00:12:23   see I all of these references completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/743">TS</a>]

00:12:26   lost on me did this is why I rely on you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28   guys but there's also there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30   about this book that is I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/750">TS</a>]

00:12:32   self-referential the right term it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34   a really rich family background is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36   way I thought of it where I just you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38   really tell that its forebears are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40   Tim Hunter because I got to be honest I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42   was thinking of Tim Hunter a lot more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/762">TS</a>]

00:12:43   reading this book especially through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45   London sequences and that 200 is Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/765">TS</a>]

00:12:48   Hunter is a boy wizard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50   oh this is in his various harry potter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   before harry potter was around yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54   that was part of another it's another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56   version another version ok and the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/776">TS</a>]

00:12:58   he was originally introduced neil gaiman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00   wrote the original I think four-part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/780">TS</a>]

00:13:02   miniseries with him right with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/782">TS</a>]

00:13:03   different artist was a painting prestige [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05   thing is beautiful one of my first I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07   looks like that i read and really got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09   into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/789">TS</a>]

00:13:09   and over the course of that book tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   runs into John Constantine and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/791">TS</a>]

00:13:14   dr. strange at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/794">TS</a>]

00:13:16   What's Wrong universal on you Adam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18   street and you know he wasn't ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/798">TS</a>]

00:13:19   all the DC mystical characters it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21   swamp thing you know that something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   wasn't it was a mr. e Phantom Stranger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/803">TS</a>]

00:13:26   very classic 16 so DC literally i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/806">TS</a>]

00:13:31   call it John Constantine the hellblazer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/811">TS</a>]

00:13:33   and this was just before the vertical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/813">TS</a>]

00:13:35   launch or maybe soon before the vertical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   launch we're talking like 1991 so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39   sort of the equivalent of what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/819">TS</a>]

00:13:41   have been vertigo if it had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/821">TS</a>]

00:13:42   invented yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/822">TS</a>]

00:13:43   yeah alright the same way that Eleanor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   swamp thing is widely considered to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/825">TS</a>]

00:13:46   vertical before alright was invented yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48   that's a good rule of thumb and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/828">TS</a>]

00:13:49   what they did with Tim Hunter is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/829">TS</a>]

00:13:51   did books of magic which was 75 issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/831">TS</a>]

00:13:55   serious which actually have the flimsies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/835">TS</a>]

00:13:57   and then after that they did names of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59   magic which was a 25 issue series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01   because people were not buying it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/841">TS</a>]

00:14:04   one of the themes and names of magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   comes down to the power of words to set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/846">TS</a>]

00:14:09   the foundation for reality and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/849">TS</a>]

00:14:12   the villainous forces they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/852">TS</a>]

00:14:13   defeat is this this want to converse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/853">TS</a>]

00:14:16   creature that brings out of the book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/856">TS</a>]

00:14:17   the only way it is stated and ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   defeated is when somebody says the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/859">TS</a>]

00:14:21   word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/861">TS</a>]

00:14:22   so so Tim Hunter has always been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   little bit about that what is real what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/864">TS</a>]

00:14:25   is not real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/865">TS</a>]

00:14:26   what words have the power to shape not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28   to shape and these guys work on Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30   Hunter and they went to Lucifer which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/870">TS</a>]

00:14:31   also this really heavy metal article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   background what you just said about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/873">TS</a>]

00:14:34   writing this stuff is what's shaping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36   reality in the fourth issue that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38   exactly what happened when you had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40   bad literary gathering of more writers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/880">TS</a>]

00:14:43   yeah you know in the the house that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45   Frankenstein was written in discussing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47   horror and then the book becomes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/887">TS</a>]

00:14:49   horror genre command yeah dad Joshua or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/889">TS</a>]

00:14:53   oh yeah kill our one-at-a-time a dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/893">TS</a>]

00:14:56   house in the middle of a storm yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/896">TS</a>]

00:14:57   that reminded me of the movie adaptation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/897">TS</a>]

00:15:00   yeah which had that same sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   movie is talking about we don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/902">TS</a>]

00:15:04   become this thing that's going to be all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/904">TS</a>]

00:15:05   shoot-'em-up are chasing and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/905">TS</a>]

00:15:08   movie becomes yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/908">TS</a>]

00:15:09   not that it's not my favorite movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/909">TS</a>]

00:15:11   I I actually think it's it i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13   clever thing was that that was what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/913">TS</a>]

00:15:14   were trying to do and in the end they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/914">TS</a>]

00:15:15   succeeded in making a bad movie about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   making a bad movie right because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   wasn't it didn't seem ironic enough it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   just seemed bad i like it on a metal of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/921">TS</a>]

00:15:24   but I like well that and that's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   the things that really struck me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/926">TS</a>]

00:15:27   the unwritten is it for me it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/927">TS</a>]

00:15:28   actually very hard to get into the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/928">TS</a>]

00:15:31   of the actual events of the unwritten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   because i was so pulled out and viewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/933">TS</a>]

00:15:36   it on that metal level of this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   story about telling stories and about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41   the effect of storytelling i love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   stuff that is some of my favorite kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45   of work in general i love love analyzing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/945">TS</a>]

00:15:48   works of fiction and discovering that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/948">TS</a>]

00:15:50   they're talking about themselves that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/950">TS</a>]

00:15:51   this is my topic for another podcast but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/951">TS</a>]

00:15:54   my favorite thing about the finale of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/954">TS</a>]

00:15:57   lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/957">TS</a>]

00:15:58   no spoilers here other than to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/958">TS</a>]

00:15:59   I felt like it was I liked it many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/959">TS</a>]

00:16:02   people hated it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/962">TS</a>]

00:16:03   that's one of things I like best about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/963">TS</a>]

00:16:04   it was I felt like it was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/964">TS</a>]

00:16:05   talking about itself was talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   what happens when you're at the end of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09   story and the last episode of a TV show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   and you want to say goodbye to everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13   because you know you're not going to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/973">TS</a>]

00:16:14   them ever again and that it was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   self-aware and I know that doesn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/976">TS</a>]

00:16:18   for some people but I i got that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/978">TS</a>]

00:16:19   kind of vibe from the unwritten that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   without to the point where i was almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/981">TS</a>]

00:16:22   lost on some of those people are getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24   murdered in the house where where Mary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/984">TS</a>]

00:16:26   Shelley read frankenstein because i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/986">TS</a>]

00:16:28   kinda more engaged in in the mystery of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/988">TS</a>]

00:16:31   this intertextual ality of like is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   real and how does it affect it and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   does it all mean and and I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37   don't know if that that happen for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/997">TS</a>]

00:16:38   guys but I didn't I was I was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   focused on that I was on the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:41   their characters and who are they and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43   that they're being murdered horribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:44   because they're just fictional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:45   characters and then boom which of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47   they all are right and that's the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   interesting thing in that I sort of look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:52   at that the whole slasher part is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54   of a backdrop like uslike against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:55   bigger issues after the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   establishes the villain right now he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   actually really bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:00   I'm engines also really cathartic for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:02   people who really hates genre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:03   classification because they make a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:06   in earlier issue of having his people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   identified by the genres that they write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10   and there's that one really annoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:11   person who's got oh I read a sexy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:12   vampire detective and another guy's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:15   'oh i take care of HP Lovecraft and one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   guys like I do torture porn and they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:20   unabashedly embraced their market niches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:24   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:24   her and then all of them just get killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   brutally right and I wonder if it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:29   down to the creator's saying something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:32   along the lines of look you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:33   genre can make you but it can also kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35   you or look we don't think that John was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:36   a good idea this is so cathartic being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38   able to kill them and I think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:40   something there about following your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42   creative Muse vs selling out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44   that's part of the story because in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46   ways you could view those people as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:47   being sell out there they're writing for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:50   an audience in a market and they become [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52   successful at it and then if you flip to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:55   the the last chapter 15 issue with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:58   kipling and Twain I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00   basically what the story is there is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:03   Kipling sort of sold-out and it made him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   famous by selling out so it's like are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:08   is it like a deal with the devil where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:09   you become famous because you sold out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   or is that just unusual cost effect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:14   sellouts the ones who become famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:15   because that's why they become famous as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   they've sold out and Twain is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19   sellout and just sent them away that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:21   it's it's really interesting it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:22   that two levels are these writers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:23   selling out and is that what this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:25   about is not being true to yourself are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   all the right ourselves and how does the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:28   wild fit into that because we're the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:31   mysterious character whose name is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:32   escaping me at the moment the blond guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   with the beard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:35   hi when Kipling is worried about Wilder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:38   that's wild that's why i asked a wild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:41   and he says while doesn't actually have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   you know staying power it's a piece of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45   the moment but my friends and I we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:48   like him at all right which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   interesting because what is that what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:51   does he want his trigger is true to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   himself or he's true to himself and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:54   writing things that they specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56   don't want cause Kipling says point2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58   wild was that he was granted a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:01   his lines are very facile and flip but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:03   his whole body of work is devoted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05   pointing out hypocrisy and and telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:08   people that they need to learn to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:09   things as they truly are not as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   polite social delusions that are easier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:13   for everybody else to swallow and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   is definitely a sense of this in a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   that this isn't just about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:18   getting writers on the payroll it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:20   about steering but the reality or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:23   theories reception of the time yeah in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25   certain direction whatever that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:26   direction might be that's interesting so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   the idea of stories set the culture is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:32   very interesting and very true if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:35   look at all the early science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37   work in jewels for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:38   turned in all these that the writers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:41   envisioned all these things before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:42   scientists when I can make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:45   yeah wired once did this futures issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47   is back in 1995 the reason I remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:50   this is because i actually ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:51   writing a paper on in grad school where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1191">TS</a>]

00:19:53   they were interviewing futurologists or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:56   whatever and the one thing that came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58   of all the interviews was if you want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1198">TS</a>]

00:19:59   find out where technology is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01   in 25 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:02   read the science fiction it's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:03   now because the kids who grew up reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:06   this stuff are then going to take into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:07   their working lives right that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09   story about the motorola startac phone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11   which is not only named specifically to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   reference star track but was designed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:16   a bunch of people who grew up with Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:17   Trek and wanted to flip out communicator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:20   like Captain Kirk at and so they built [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   it to go back to the idea that story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:25   shape the narrative of the time or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:26   reflect them there's the page where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:28   see the news portal with the the google [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:31   search interface and the amplified news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:34   network and the internet people talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:37   at once there's a forum thread is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39   first time i think i've seen a forum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:40   thread and a comic book one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:41   people's names his bunk Moreland who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   a character on the wire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45   haha and the reason that stood out for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:48   me is because I have totally missed that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   I've been lucky enough to sit on another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:52   academic panels were people have talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:54   about how the wire is essentially one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:56   the first examples of long-form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:57   fictional reportage where as a TV series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1257">TS</a>]

00:21:00   it's deeply rooted in observation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:03   reporting and then all of that this fax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05   got mashed into a fictional outline and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   spit back out to people where once they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   saw that they could then begin to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:10   how this is playing out in real life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   there's already that fiction vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14   nonfiction loop in the wire and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:16   there's a slight little reference to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:17   riot read in the forum thing because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19   got a to anyone standing man yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:22   bunk Moreland and how Punk having you be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:26   getting drunk with delta delta yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:29   yeah and I just you know again again you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:33   could argue that the wire actually does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:34   blur that line as well because i'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:36   there are people in Baltimore who would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:37   love to tell you that look you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:38   may have seen five seasons of this TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   show but this is what our it really is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   like and I'm sure there are people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   across the country who have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:45   impression of Baltimore based entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   on five seasons of the wire right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   maybe some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:50   some homicide in the corner but it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52   based on David Simon basically writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:53   about Baltimore David Simon's created a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   fictitious Baltimore basically which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   based on real-life reporting see where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59   it gets all right right that's well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01   that's interesting because there and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:02   is it is fiction based on reality yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   and that is one of the core questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   and the unwritten is is Tommy Taylor a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:09   fraud who was adopted for stolen from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:12   Eastern European parents or any real and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:15   is he the real Tommy Taylor or is he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17   just a kid who had not none of that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   wasn't created by the story of existence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   can be seen as right name with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:24   unwritten and what and what does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:25   what does the name of this comic mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:28   with all those people who get unwritten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:30   who there are dissolved into words in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:33   the book which I sort of like very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   visually was it was really compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:37   because we're talking a lot about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   on the sort of the meta-level and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:41   don't think you can actually talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43   it or not it isn't a successful story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:44   like this something that you can enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:46   on the meta-level and get all those sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:48   of references but also on it on just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:51   that reading it as a simple story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:54   does this work as a simple story i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56   going to say i would love to find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:57   the impression of somebody who wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59   familiar with vertigo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01   well that's me or fantasy and so Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:03   yes what is your profession [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05   well as I alluded to earlier I i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:08   have a difficult time really getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   into it on that simple story level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12   because i kept thinking about wow this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14   is this is playing on a lot of levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   here because it's a it's a story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18   stories and you know and it wants you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20   view it that way because every issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:22   begins in a story and then pulls you out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:26   of the story into reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   so it was obviously i don't i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30   going to get any other references to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32   other not only other works but also just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34   I don't know that the history of of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   the kind of things that vertigo produces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:39   where you look at a vertigo thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:40   say oh it's a vertical thing I got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   i think i've read i'm up to like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:45   fifth issue of The Sandman I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:46   completely a litter about that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48   thing here that neil gaiman is good dump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50   he's gonna go place is he's coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52   yeah that's right i wonder what novel by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54   him would be like for a screenplay for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:56   at episode of Doctor Who anyway we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:57   find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:58   that kid is going places so so that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:01   my challenges like the characters are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:03   our i'm not entirely sure what they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:06   and if they're kind of blanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:07   I mean Tommy Taylor is in many ways in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09   this first set of stories he's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:11   been frustrating character he's he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   he's a kind of grumpy guy who made who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:16   is unsure about his past and he's trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   to repel against it and say no no I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:19   not that kid but I think there's also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21   this great question there that has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:23   there for the story but as a result of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:24   little off-putting and there's the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26   one other character who's the woman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:28   whose name escapes me hexham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:30   yeah-hoo-hoo comes in and seems to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:32   what's going on and is trying to to help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34   him along the way she herself her name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:37   is like character from a fictitious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:38   right work right and there's a clear and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:41   it seems it seems like she may actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:42   be a fictional creation come to life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:45   although again we've seen there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47   couple characters early on where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   a guy who supposedly as the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   Voldemort essentially of of the of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   Tommy Taylor books come to life and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:55   turns out that you have Jeff keen on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:57   first page but it turns out that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1497">TS</a>]

00:25:00   voltage or whatever his name my mouth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02   something out Earl folio the vampire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:05   ambrosio camp at contemporary oh he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:08   he's a he's a drifter who just risky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:12   they said at least so they say right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   which gets us back to that but again so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:17   much going on and rich in that level but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19   i would have to if if I'm answering your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:20   question truthfully i have to say that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22   was i was actually maybe two engaged too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:25   soon on that upper level and not able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:29   invest enough and the characters and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:30   I'd almost rather have seen hard to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:33   this especially if you're coming out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:34   with sequential issues you know 22 pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:37   at a time really hard to do this but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39   almost like to see think i was reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41   the story of a guy who's burdened by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:44   his father's work for longer and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:48   feel like you know I've connected with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:51   that guy before you pull the rug out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:54   from under me and I felt like the rug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:55   was never under me I i fell in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58   issue I did feel some of that connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   but i wonder if it was them using some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   shorthand in the sense that it it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:05   in a comic book convention which I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:07   intimately familiar with comic books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09   entrants into one of those now and as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11   past month this one yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:14   comic-con 2010 is the first comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   convention that she went big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18   yeah well we go big or go home exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:21   then I went home the fact that it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:22   at a comic convention with a guy who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:25   been he is there to make money off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:29   not even something he did years ago but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   something his father did and named after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   years ago and named after him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35   mhm you know being kind of embittered by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37   it being you know that he's defined by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:38   this character but the same time they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40   exploiting at making money because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:42   has no other way to do it if you go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:43   any moderately sized comic convention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   you'll see those people from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   seventies sci-fi TV shows i took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:50   picture of guilt girardin Erin gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:51   signing things culture our hair and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53   wearing a pair of shorts signing Buck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:55   Rogers memorabilia on the first page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:57   they have them sitting next to somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:58   who's name is Jareth calendar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:01   calendar basically calls out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:04   creator's intense with always thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:05   your Christopher Robin and Tommy replies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:08   back looks like you've stopped the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:09   circle of your immediate family and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   pretty obvious that it's meant to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:12   slam on Family Circle and Bill and Jeff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:15   quinoa I did I didn't see a an article [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:18   somewhere where I think my kerry said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:22   that the model for this story was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   Christopher Robin and that the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:27   a million wrote these wildly successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:29   winnie-the-pooh books with Christopher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31   Robin at the center and that was his son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:34   and yeah but in his attempt to director [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   eclipsed the Sun to the point where all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   the people wanted to talk about was oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40   you're Christopher Robin from the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:41   and the answer is No [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:43   yeah I'm the one from the real world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45   it's it's a really interesting idea and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47   you're right you know they spend a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49   of the first issue I guess maybe what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51   did it for me is that by dropping you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53   into the Tommy Taylor books immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:54   I I like immediately I'm like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   we're going to juxtapose the books with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   the reality of this guy i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   it's an interesting story but I guess I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   was more engaged on that the meta-level [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04   then I was on the actual level i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   love to know if the villain pull [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   Minister supposed to be named after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:09   Philip Pullman in any way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:10   wow that's a nice reference to get all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:13   these different things and in pullman is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:16   is such a distinct fantasy writer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19   many of his conventions are both i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:21   say what he did in the golden compass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:22   so different from any fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24   conventions we're all good news will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   around you BTW guys can save the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   universe but a horrible personal cost to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   you and it's exactly the opposite of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:33   way a lot of fiction works that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:34   somehow magically works everybody so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36   before we move on from talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   unwritten night I want to ask a similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   question here which is did you like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:43   and would you keep reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:45   yes and yes wow that's like no I do have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:49   elaborate theories that I do have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51   trepidation and this may be more my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:54   experiences as a longtime comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:56   reader and less a reflection on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:57   book but unless they have a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   resolve this and then find a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01   continue the underlying bedrock themes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:03   worry that this book will turn into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:05   something else after about 50 issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07   because you can really only drag out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:08   central mystery who are these people why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   are they trying to shape reality where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   did Wilson go once you once you answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:13   those questions you have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:15   invented a new set of questions into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   first quest that's a lot of quests into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:20   the first quest or you have to kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:22   hit a reboot button and summary boots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   are are are good and others [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:27   wait what about us yes that's true with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:30   any and kind of comic series especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   or any long-running series we're at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34   point you you either need to shut it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:35   down or that's actually the things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   like best about salmon as they shut it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:38   down after 75 issues there was a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40   he told it he was done but vertigo is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   actually pretty good as an imprint about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   doing that with the exception of swamp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   thing and help laser you allow stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:50   to sort of run their course and then end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:53   yeah so and I think you're actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:54   seeing that in comics a lot more often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   and x mac is ending with issue 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:59   planetary ended issue whatever 27-1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:03   right only took like five years to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   know if he started planting like 1999 oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:08   my god it was fantastic we should talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   about planetary sometime that Alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   yeah that haven't realized some serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   you've got it would be a bit you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   skipping skipping ahead now because I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:17   gonna ask you what you're reading now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   and what should you read because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:20   going to be one of the recurring themes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   on this yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:23   excellently named podcast whatever it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:24   named just i saya i was surprised that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:28   like this it's been a long time since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:29   i've read a vertigo book for many years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   and so I i did enjoy this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:34   I'm intrigued enough about some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:36   mystery that will keep reading it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:37   think they set up a lot of questions the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   way to sort of cliffhanger it ends on is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:42   the flying cat it's quite painful that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44   they end on a cliffhanger and do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:46   thing that I like the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:47   although again intentionally frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   in comics which is you end on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   cliffhanger and then you do a standalone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:52   issue that's not related to anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   with the company for gotta build that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:55   tension guy finally it's here it so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:58   doesn't answer any of those questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1858">TS</a>]

00:30:59   and this is why trades i think of more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   satisfying sometimes is because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:04   published so far after flimsies that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   you really want to find out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:07   happened to you you can go and then do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:09   so so does there's probably an entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:12   podcast here but just the short version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14   of trade paperback versus the little you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:17   know flimsies as we as we seem to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   have started calling them you know where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   do you where do you come down on on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23   leaving digital aside for a minute just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   the trade trades versus the flames I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:28   obviously I i attempted to reconnect to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30   the flimsy you know individual issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32   and fail then went back to two trades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:35   and hardcovers just because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:36   individual tracking and I was trained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:39   not to throw them out or recycle them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:40   which means you gotta save them away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42   unlike every other periodicals yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   higher garage is now taken over with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   flimsies collection which is why switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:47   to trade so you you switched and aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:50   buying individual issues anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:51   the only exception might be ex machina [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   because I've been following that since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   issue 1 and you want to ride it to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:56   end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:57   yeah because that's what I do with what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:58   that's what i do y the last man or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   it's a limited brunch series that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02   suspect won't make it into trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:04   all right i'll do that for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06   vertigo had a series called the witching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:07   that I enjoyed that you'll never see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   internet was a tennis shoe run it didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:10   do well at all and disappeared i'm glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12   i have this because I can pull those out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:13   there's one or two series i'll still buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   flimsies mainly just to support the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:18   series because i don't think it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   popular or big but then I had switch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   entirely trades and now I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:24   dropping trades in favor of more omnibus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:28   collections in the Attic offers as Biggs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:33   hundred-dollar tire collection and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   because now it you're reading a floppy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   takes like two minutes and it sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:40   very disposable but now even a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:41   trades there are five issues of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43   two minutes floppies so in trade is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45   15 minutes of reading a lot of times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:48   which that's not enough for me anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:49   it takes me longer to bagged and boarded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:50   flames and it does to actually be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52   absolute collections tend to be 24 plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:55   issues and to me that's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   experience and you're getting more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:58   complete story it as a part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00   experience are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:01   yeah I have some in some things I picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   up and trade because i have made sure i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:05   wanted to commit to them and then i end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:06   up with them in trading I'm like I wish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   I just like invincible actually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   bought me the first two traits of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:11   invincible and they're great and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:12   actually wish that I had a big hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:13   cover on the buses of those and i may go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   back and do that because i am that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   another topic for another show i suppose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   but I love love love Robert Kirkman's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   invincible to the point where i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   have you know just committed to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:25   hardcovers like i did with ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:26   spider-man right I just have a hard for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   planetary i bought the I first absolute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:31   collection and then I had to wait three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   four years for the second look like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:36   little swing out yeah and to finish the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:39   story but now I have to go back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:40   reread the first absolute so i can read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42   the whole thing at once but yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44   the problem with the bigger you get in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46   the collections the longer you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:47   wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:48   writing collections right even on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50   when I was doing the Marvel heart cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52   our soft covers of ultimate spider-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54   and waiting for the hardcover you to its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56   to trade weights so it's like a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:58   yeah yeah so to a yearly hardcover the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:01   drops on your desk and like all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:02   which is not that different from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:05   know that the Harry Potter series or any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   other kind of a novel series where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:10   wait a year or two kids like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:12   difference between when television shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   get broadcast on the air for the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:15   time versus the dvds right there shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:18   we're back to the wire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   well I actually watch the wire as it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   on HBO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:23   i'm watching about DVD and I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   think that there's a substantial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:26   difference between when you watch a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   and it airs every weekend have a week to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:29   let it percolate your brain you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31   about you invested his expectations into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33   it i just have to do that with a wire I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:34   can't watch the wire like like now Andy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:37   because now it can be but um okay here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39   another example television what might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:41   one of my favorite junk series is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43   tutors I just I just find that series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45   delightful it's hysterically funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:46   jonathan rhys-meyers place Henry the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   answers and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:48   hinge lunatic rock god the history has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:51   been tied up and left in a closet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:52   somewhere i think if i had watched an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   episode by episode on showtime I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:56   have been very frustrated because Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:57   they've dropped this storyline and oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:59   this person was on this episode there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:00   and you never see them again i download [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:03   entire seasons from itunes and just run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05   them when I'm working on something or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:06   I feel like watching two or three in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   row and it's a much different experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   and I feel sometimes that reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   single-issue comics compared to reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14   the entire story arc through trade it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:16   the same thing where you can be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18   disappointed by single issue where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:19   can be really late to buy a single issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21   but when you see it in context in trades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23   it's it's a it's a different experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:24   in a different reaction when watch men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   came out i read watchmen as it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:29   coming out and and actually stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:32   reading comics after the last issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34   because I felt like I I all it is put it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36   made everything else pale incompatible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38   done it this will never happen again two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:39   years but what that experience was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:42   really you know you would read issue 1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   and then a month later you would read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46   issue 1 an issue 2 and then a month [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:47   later you would read one two and three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49   and then you had enough time to read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:51   text in the back where there were these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53   detailed excerpts that would take you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55   longer to read the comic just these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:57   three or four text pages and then by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:59   end you know there were two months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01   between issue 11 an issue 12 it had been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03   monthly up till that boy that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:05   painful and delayed a month and and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:08   a cliffhanger and again you know it then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   it's read 1 through 11 so that when 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:13   hits and that's a very different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:14   experience to have all that time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17   ponder vs vs not i think that's why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:20   was so disappointed with how J michael [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:21   Straczynski is rising stars ended its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:24   because i had to wait a billion years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:26   for for the final issue and then once it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:28   was done I was this is at so i waited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30   for this I felt that way about the Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:32   Wars trilogy the second one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   oh my god that's right i want to have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   life for three more star wars movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   this is what I get haha yeah yeah you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   right i mean rising stars what I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:42   if you'd read all all of those as I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:45   unit and is angry my heart away with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:46   disappointing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:47   yeah yeah cuz i read i read vol.3 in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:50   after reading vol.12 much earlier in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   trade paperback I I like vol.3 came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54   my reaction was ok i see what he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:57   doing there I wasn't quite as enraged as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59   you but I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:00   think that it's about expectations about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:02   waiting and he held up and if it's build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:04   up for nothing then I did feel in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:07   unwritten that the issues were pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   dense yes yes yes going like it's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:13   22 pages I know which i haven't had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15   experience in a comic in a long time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17   since they're so decompressed now and if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19   you read them digitally it's just like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:20   conversation on the previous podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22   about reading in the end an e-reader you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24   don't even know how far into it you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26   yeah and and you realize what this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   page 15 you know you tap and see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30   it's page fifteen to twenty i almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:31   think that our meeting this week's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:32   reading this comic monthly would work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:36   yeah but it's so it's a good so you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:38   so much to chillin right and you have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:39   good a good enough experience in reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:42   the single issue that you don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:44   like you're wasting your money or that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:45   you need the second one right away your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47   own you're not getting necessarily a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:49   complete story but you're getting enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:50   of a story that satisfied she wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   yeah it feels is actually really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   satisfying an issue by issue basis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56   because even after you finish the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:57   you go back and you take a look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:58   side panel artwork and the themes that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:01   they've introduced and you get what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:02   they're doing visually on top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:03   narrative Lee it's it's it's delightful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:05   that by ok let's move on to what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:09   reading right now i thought i would ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11   each of you you don't have to go into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:12   lot of detail if you don't want to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   even in the realm of comics you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   what's got your attention these days [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   well the I don't need to stump you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   rather than going on written it's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:21   we've been reading yet on the trade side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:24   everything i'm getting his old material [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:27   and really enjoy that out Sandman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:28   mystery theater which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:31   nineteen-thirties New York City Sandman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:34   in the gas mask pulp stories written by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:37   matt wagner mostly illustrated by guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:40   davis beautiful work there we could do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:43   podcast about that and maybe we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:45   send a series of trades that i've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:47   reading issue wise i enjoy agents of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:51   atlas from marvel comics which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   crazy sort of the brat pack of superhero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:57   books it's it's taken from a what-if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:00   story from like for the rat past six not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   Brad pack the red right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04   pat was not it was gonna be so washy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:07   right mom and dad back ere I thanks the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:10   best friend Sammy Andy and itself is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:13   essentially this a talking gorilla Man U [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:16   Iranian spaceman a Venus goddess a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:20   murderer woman and a nineteen fifties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:25   FBI agent jimmy wu yep guys forming a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:29   team it's pretty fantastic written by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:32   Jeff Parker yeah really good i read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:35   miniseries of that on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:35   recommendation and really really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:37   and funny and and is you know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:40   actually an interesting because that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   one of those rare cases where you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   a publisher owned scenario that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:47   feels a lot more like it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:48   creator-owned book because there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   much creativity that goes into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   building of that from from some old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:53   characters that would they found laying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:54   around in the Marvel and intellectual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56   property in right yeah characters that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:58   were in like an eight-page backup story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00   in a from a comic in the sixties ya and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:03   bring them into the modern-day quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05   literally bring them into the modern day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:06   followed him out and put them down in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08   today and put them in charge of a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:12   organization but syndicate yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   exit guys in charge of criminal criminal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:15   syndicate understand Francisco yes nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:18   could be right here right now I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:20   reading comics in San Francisco just for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22   that reason because i love seeing how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:23   what landmarks they get or what ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25   they create I keep meaning to read those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:27   x-men issues we have moved to San I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:30   yes in the Tana lived in San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   for a while so it was someone when she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:35   was doing that because in seven soldiers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:38   they explicitly referenced living in San [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   Francisco attending a superhero support [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:42   group in the east bay i was just telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:43   you about seven soldiers yeah we should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45   I've got all those if you want to bart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:46   well you'll download the many ways going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   to have got no no no I can't believe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:50   could borrow all the flames on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52   wonderful NZ now i'm all the way if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:53   got to get back to you and a hardcover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   so so what about you and Lisa what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:56   you reading right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:57   scalped real mention scale really love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2457">TS</a>]

00:41:00   scalped think Jason Aaron is a fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02   writer it shows you characters that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04   don't see a lot of the other stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06   period so I'm enjoy an implicit snore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:09   and I have a soft spot for nor I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11   catching up on invincible I just got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   last two trades i am thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:14   revisiting walking dead because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16   love walking dead i read through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18   series run on my brother is an avid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:21   collector and so I read through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:22   series run when I was visiting him last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   Thanksgiving and I had horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:24   nightmares for like three days straight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:26   after finishing a cute little do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:28   for and so I there's part of me that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:30   like I don't want to do it again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:31   there's part of me that really wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   go back and see what I missed when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:34   busy cringing my way through the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:35   time because when i was really the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   time I just kept flipping the page to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39   see what happened and I would be like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:40   this is horrible oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:42   but you like writing specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:44   thinking obviously the first to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:45   first two hard covers are in my amazon I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:48   i have read it and now the works too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50   hard covers are in my amazon shopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:52   cart i read both in the big hardcovers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54   so I sort of read walking dead every two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   years when the new big hardcover comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   out but now we won't have to we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2518">TS</a>]

00:41:59   watch it on AMC starting in november [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01   kind of curious that's another reason I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   want to reduce I want to be grounded and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05   as we're in the Canon before it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   out on TV so i can be all pedantic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09   picking not like it at all and i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:12   waiting for is turning over in his grave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:15   right now I'm saying let me out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:18   I'm Marvel from way back but i did get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   into Gail Simone's running birds of prey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   when she was that doing that in DC and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:23   they recently revived the title and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:25   actually waiting for the trade to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   the first revived trade to come out a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:28   few months when that happens on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:31   right around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:31   no it's galley brought it back at is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33   that just the recent recent reboot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35   reboot of like jun 2010 yeah that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:38   has the guys in it to the yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:41   yeahs be a jerk which i thought would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:42   make an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:43   yeah salary could have a jerk in having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:46   the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:47   sure well DC's always been really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:48   about that i mean they had garden and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:50   the Green Lantern Corps booster gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52   goes back mr. gold yeah i mean they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:54   always got somebody where you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:55   like okay and and and Jason what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:58   reading when I when I actually am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00   reading right now is I just finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   scott pilgrim vol 1 which did with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:06   movie coming out and I thought well okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:07   they would invest millions of dollars in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:10   making a movie maybe I should read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12   comic and so I i didn't i'm not sure i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14   liked it quite frankly here i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16   read it again i'm not a big fan of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18   cart super cartoony black-and-white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:21   comic genre and that's what that is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:24   and i would say that this story for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:27   that's not you know being married [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:30   with children Ryan sure it's making two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32   different i can remember around being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   married although i can't remember you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36   know my gay roommate or anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38   that but it won't turn out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   it is a you know I role model that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:42   young adult you know but but it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:45   a different kind of vibe and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:46   interesting and yeah it's probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:50   for me but I curiosity ever read The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:52   Runaways the Marvel well because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:55   also again that's breaking up on right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   Frank avon International Union and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59   gonna ask what your reaction to that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:00   when you read that i really like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   runaways actually am i I'm i enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:05   both both volumes of the runaways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:07   I i like that like the premise you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:10   it's it's a it's a lot of players are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:12   evil like these premises keep it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   floating around is invincible the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:15   ideas is dat superman except it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17   out that he's evil and he goes away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:19   i have been reading your redeemable by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:20   Mark weight which is about student and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22   going evil and killing everybody I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   to get into that she's very good very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:26   the The Runaways or bryan cave on just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28   in general his stories are always he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   got such great concepts that you can sum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32   up in the one sentence yeah kids find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:35   out their parents are evil they run away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:36   or mayor gets infected with the alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:37   technology right in New York City runs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:40   new right all the best-looking guy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42   a monkey yeah exactly just great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:43   concepts of the runways I felt started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:46   off really strong and then after reboot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:49   after reboot can be entered out a bit as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51   much as a joss whedon fans i am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53   actually felt like they made a mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:54   by trying to keep it as an ongoing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56   not say you know again we've done 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58   issues in the story is over and we might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00   do another volume at some other point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   and instead sort of said let's make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   like any other Marvel comic and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:06   keep on producing those issues take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:08   page from british television limited-run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:10   yeah just make the run and then come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:12   back if you want to come back with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:13   another story of something to marvel I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15   think did fairly well with the ultimate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:16   swear they did volume on its volume to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18   really hone and if I at least put itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20   contains the blast radius of jeph loeb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22   writing ultimate vol.3 is you can or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24   because you just don't read it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   they're okay we should do a pot entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   podcast and Ultimate Universe sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   i would love I would have strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32   opinions about that see the good thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34   about this starting this podcast is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36   we seem to emerge from the episodes with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:39   more concepts for future episodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:41   not entered with righteous onto the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   comic book club because I'm never gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   go to a regular book club I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:46   to read Eat Pray Love and talk about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:48   out and talk about combat is that is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:50   yes that is why somebody somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   suggested on Twitter today that a zombie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54   version of Eat Pray Love would be great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   grimsby brains love right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58   um I'm sure someone is working on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00   right now is I'm sure Neal game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:03   maybe working on that in fact that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:04   have the marble on the universe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06   went on so my question not just for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08   but for for all of us to share is a is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:11   what should I read which should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:12   reading do you have a suggestion for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:13   something that we should read next or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   you want based on if you like if you if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:18   you like let's read on written or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:19   think just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:21   well you could you can do whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:22   like there are no rules here but I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   just you know him but what should we be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   what we should be reading in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28   whether this is not a guarantee that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:29   we'll talk about it here but the wiimote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31   books i think we should talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33   future are the one out there x makina I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:37   alright next Mac michael bloomberg gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:40   magical powers my lord of its pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42   much it you know because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:43   conservative i'm going to lobby for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:44   preacher if you've never read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   mm not having an affair well that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48   be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:49   yeah well I yeah I i started reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:53   back when it first then I tried the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55   trades every now and then yeah I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:57   never successfully been able to finish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:58   it could be my yeah yeah well we can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:01   into a few my casa very exciting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:04   planetary yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:05   oh let me out various planetary for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:07   geologists of the unknown you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09   because that also gives us an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:10   opportunity to talk about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:11   university created which ties into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:13   authority and storm watch as well notice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:16   right yeah i recently read the authority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:17   and I thought that was actually pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:18   pretty good haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   have you heard of the 20th century yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   consideration it's really good they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   rebooted a few times it's gotten really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:25   if you just read the market a large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27   stuff or the warren ellis right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:29   just those two are awesome in all it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:32   actually more impressive if you consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34   when it was written in which was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   late nineties there's actually as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:39   everything is like that authority got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2859">TS</a>]

00:47:41   under the skin of some writer so badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:42   just Superman issue devoted to debunking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   it which is like I'm not gay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:47   fuck you know this basically it was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:50   because you know one of the bedrock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:51   premises of the authorities look we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53   gonna we're gonna take responsibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:54   and do things that you people will shy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   away from doing and there is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   authority like cabal that runs while the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   DC Universe for a couple of episodes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:02   Superman take some medicine and it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:03   no way we have an obligation to high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05   standards not that rebooted the rebooted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07   Justice League Justice William unlimited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:10   or grin explores and where the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   aliens come from another planet and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   basically say we're superheroes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   we're going to take over and make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:17   world a better place in the JLA is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19   what the hell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:21   there's like a Justice League extreme or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:22   justice league dark I can't remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24   name of the title i have it i'll have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:25   check my archive Scott that sounds so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27   pretentious have to check but yes it had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29   like the Ark of Noah had flashlights to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   different rooms like a black uniform who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:32   were working with this team and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   regular uniform have the regular Justice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:35   League and it was just insane i know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:38   can t really good i don't think i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:40   even give you guys any recommendations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:41   for something you should read that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:42   haven't already read or that you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   been recommended to me because I could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:45   say that the authority and I know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2925">TS</a>]

00:48:47   you recommended that Jamie and agreed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:49   Tom strong or top 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51   have you got a result by snot naga lat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53   long long time there's a nice big on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:55   bus have thought yeah there's heat i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:56   ended up i had to have surgery at ucsf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58   last year and they delayed it by a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   couple of hours and somebody had left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:01   his omnibus in the waiting room and I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03   read the entire thing while waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:04   it and good way to pass the time it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:06   a great way to pass the time and because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:08   MacLeod is is the guy who wrote how did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:11   you know understand comics exactly it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:12   was fascinating to see what he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:14   putting into practice in his own book as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:16   well so i think i just to be obscure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:18   although you probably have read this i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20   going to say what you should read is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:21   micronauts 1 through 12 by Bill man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:23   alone Michael golden from the late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25   seventies the most delightful example of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   how you can take a star wars ripoff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29   based on a toy and make it something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:32   that actually is among my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2972">TS</a>]

00:49:33   things in the entire medium so he might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   that's my hand on my pile to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:38   yeah it is it isn't available in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:40   trade what I have two morrow 10 because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42   the rights have been completely messed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   up it's available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:45   it's available on on computers & ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47   that's k & and I actually i have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:51   but the Marvel reprinted a fine issue on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:54   high-quality paper recolored watercolor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:56   recolor of the first 12 issues a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:59   edition and I have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2999">TS</a>]

00:49:59   actually on my bookshelf and I will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   bring it in and Lexi because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:03   licensing issues there currently is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   legitimate way to buy a collection right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   of the Micronauts right and in fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09   is why i downloaded i'm also that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   i downloaded the migrants bit torn i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:12   have all the flimsy issues but quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:14   frankly they're in a box under a box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:16   under the rocks and micro i'm reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18   rom right last night also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:20   that's my girl that's built low and sal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   buscema didn't want to know those were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   those great to kind of toy tions that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:27   think far surpass her and outlived their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:29   toy antecedence yeah there's a rom was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:32   75 issues and a bunch of annuals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:35   people still talk about Rob yeah message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   board and it's not available because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   the rice and always Harker brothers i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   think is that one and then the Abrams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   Gentile entertainment that have tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:44   relicense micronauts a million times and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46   Marvel actually did to issues of microns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:49   reboot before the writer and artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:50   discovered that the talks have broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52   down and that they weren't able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:53   publish them and so yeah but anyway that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:56   first run of the the first 12 issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   that's a huge fun and you can see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:01   star wars influences and you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03   them trying to find ways to get these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:05   toys in but not happen be toys just and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:08   as a seven-year-old basically right that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:10   was the thing that was my know if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12   don't like to star wars comic books for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   those are classic seventies Marvel style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:17   storing yeah which and Michael golden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:20   doesn't get enough credit Jim medow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:21   detection for Marvel from the seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:23   were all the rage that right yeah grew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:25   up reading it in the late 70s early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:26   nineties half icy hot but I don't didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:30   happen for me because watchman was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   published and then I went away right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:33   then you missed it you missed the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:35   rob liefeld era i had a friend who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37   should be a better man I mean I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:39   let's not make our own guy he's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:41   popular and I looked at the Todd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:42   McFarlane's spider-man I was like yes so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:44   glad i'm not buying comics anymore right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:47   having lived through the nineties comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   but there was so many at three years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   where I would go to the comic store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:54   every wednesday and get walk out with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:57   nothing very sad it was a depressing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59   dark time and then I picked up on a whim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:02   in this comic store in in boerum hill in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:05   Brooklyn a chris where acne novelty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:08   library number three and that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   opened the entire world of like indie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:13   me would sort of saved the 1980 comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:15   used to be lame i'm with it again yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17   with people who can do make sure about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:18   this and and spend for another time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:21   it used to be a used to be lame I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:22   ever i bought John sable freelance by my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24   grill and it was pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:25   red star was jim Starlin owned it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:28   that was pretty cool but that was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30   and you know there was your health [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:31   quests and you're you know you you make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33   fun of the elf question in HealthQuest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35   got me through 10th grade well I believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:37   it you know I by tenth grade English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:38   class was so boring that my friends I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40   would pass around our issues of health [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:41   quest and and go back to it and it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:44   tyrone we bad i'll admit that i'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   it's like don bluth put to paper home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48   and get sauced Erica long way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:51   yeah and it actually you know I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53   nice dream well yeah at the time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   know what you would you would never get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   any an indie comic like invincible which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:00   is essentially a marvel comic except in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02   its own universe and that's so great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   because it's freed from all of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:05   stuff but it's still that kind of tone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:08   which I grew up with and I love you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10   but before we go I will say following on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:12   my recommendation of micro not something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:14   that you can get when you talk about us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:15   being children of the seventies of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   comics so are many of the creators out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:20   there now which is why you start to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:21   those echoes and I i have the hardcover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23   of Planet Hulk which is by a guy named [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:26   Greg Pak planet hulk is so rife with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:29   references and ama jizz to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31   Micronauts especially those first 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33   issues that when i first read it I I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:36   was so excited I was like pacing around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   my house because it's like oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:40   somebody else remembers the microphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:41   and they're gonna come and he's inviting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   residents and it's hilarious good it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:49   it's true every night and every actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:50   characters that are that are are clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:53   analogues of itself my that would be my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:56   secondary recommendation that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:57   available widely and is a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59   self-contained story and I didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   related to the rest of the Hulk mythos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03   it's just kind of a what if there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05   big strong guy dropped down on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:06   planet and then things happen all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08   well then I guess until next time i'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10   like to thank jason reitman thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:12   and.and please miser thank you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14   having me I'm Jason snow please join us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:17   knows what the topic will be but we hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19   you enjoyed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:23   for more information about this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:26   www.example.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZq_Jd4/3266">TS</a>]