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00:00:29 ◼   ► welcome back everybody to the [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► uncomfortable i'm your host Jason Steele [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► we're here to kick off the new series of [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► hopefully series it's the first one you [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► never know a series of episodes you know [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► we watched miyazaki movies and we [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► launched pixar movies and other things [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► that we do Star Wars movie starts to [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► talk about Star Trek so back many years [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► ago in the early days the uncomfortable [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► we did an episode about the entire [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► output of joss whedon in in an hour [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► efficient back when you could do it in [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► an hour and that well that was no not [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► even then and down and we thought that [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► you know I i guess that the incomparable [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► would only air for about ten episodes [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► and then we would be done we were [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► covered everything we can move away and [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► instead we as we near episode 300 [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► divided perhaps my favorite TV show of [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► all time deserve more than 10 minutes [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► tucked inside a podcast about all of the [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► work of a particular particular person [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► so we're going to talk about buffy the [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► vampire slayer my favorite TV show of [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► all time and we're going to start by [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► talking about just one season [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► that's right it's a seasonal look at [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► buffy the vampire slayer we're going to [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► talk about season one often maligned is [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► it is it rightfully maligned is it [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► justly mind we'll find out with my three [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► fine compatriots alene sims hello [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► welcome to the Hellmouth oh I'm so happy [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► to be here i think david lure who died i [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► am I am so glad we're going to take a [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► stab at this [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► mmm damn and I Monty Ashley can you go [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► hack into the city computer for me [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► quickly come back Jason alright with [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► everything he's the willow of our group [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► i guess so [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► oh my that means I've got a sexy [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► doppelganger in a few years in a few [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► years a spoilers for all shows that [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► we're done [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► 15-20 years ago so Buffy Season one [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► funny so funny thing i'll give an [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► opening statement of my own here how [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► about that but this this is a show that [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► I think the WB took a flyer on in 1997 [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► or probably they took the flyer in 1996 [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► it aired starting in march 1997 they [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► give it a 12-episode [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► order the entire show was produced [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► before it even aired the first episode [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► it's actually one of these rare shows [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► that has a opening sequence theme music [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► with a a wide range of clips from [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► throughout its first seats and because [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► they had those and in fact I believe [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► they even shot stuff for early episodes [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► late in the run of the season when they [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► knew things we're gonna do you know [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► where the story was going a little bit [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► more clearly because they had that [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► luxury because they didn't have to [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► deliver their episodes until essentially [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► they were done on the WB in this era for [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► those who don't remember was a place [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► that that showed terrible things like a [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► sitcom starring Pauly Shore and was not [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► a place for anything that anyone would [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► probably want to watch so my point is I [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► it was an unexpected thing that that it [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► that this show would it would make it i [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► think i'm not sure anybody really [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► expected that it would be successful at [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► all they did their 12 episodes it has an [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► ending [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► I remember watching the premiere of this [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► show and my wife was taken classes and I [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► had to go pick her up at the at the [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► train station afterward and I was so I [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► was I was killing time essentially as [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► you do when you're when you're in your [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► twenties and I I i started watching this [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► my picture up the transitions you know i [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► watch tonight i watch buffy the vampire [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► slayer' and it was actually kind of good [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► it was a surprise and and when I hear [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► people talk about it now a lot of times [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► i hear people say oh you should just [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► skip the first season of Buffy it's not [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► any good and i have a problem that [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► because i think that that is an unfair [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► treatment of the first season of buffy [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► it was it's it's a funny little season [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► 12 episodes they didn't expect it to go [TS]

00:04:25 ◼   ► anywhere made on the shoes shoe string [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► but I feel like the roots of the strong [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► show that it was to become were already [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► but not present when they made these [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► they're visible here and by the time the [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► first season came to an end i was [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► absolutely in love with the show already [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► so that's my opening statement [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► can I make a quick opening day yes that [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► was what i was going Monty good timing [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► out great i also remember when I watched [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► the first episode of [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► buffy the vampire slayer it was not when [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► it aired I didn't start watching the [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► show until part way through season 6 and [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► i know this because i watched and FX [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► marathon where they started showing two [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► episodes per day on january 1 2002 I [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► said this is when I'm jumping into the [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► show that people he talking about [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► and I kept copious notes and kind of [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► live blog by experience so i was able to [TS]

00:05:22 ◼   ► as weary watched episodes for this [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► compare my notes for what i thought the [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► first time I saw every single thing on [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► the show 14 years ago and i will say i [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► don't think eps I don't think season one [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► is that bad [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► it even contains what might be my [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► favorite scene in the entire series [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► intriguing David do you have any opening [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► statement to make about your you how you [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► discovered this show [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► well I also came to it late not quite [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► that late i came to about midway through [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► the second season because my first [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► impulse was oh I saw the movie the movie [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► was fun but yeah and so I just didn't [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► watch it and the WB you know that was [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► good shows don't happen on the WB polish [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► or in polisher sitcom yeah you know and [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► this was filling in for the primetime [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► soap savannah and you knows i was kind [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► of sad because i couldn't have [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► commercials for Savannah to make fun of [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► for 12 weeks so you know I was like hey [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► and somewhere in the second season an [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► old friend of mine I've had a lot of [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► people tell me oh you need to read or [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► watch or go see blank because it's just [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► like the way you write its you would [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► love this and I've been burned so many [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► times but I do this one friend who I [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► trust implicitly on that she always she [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► knows exactly that wavelength and she's [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► like no you have to watch this trust me [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► and I sent them and watched it and went [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► out and got the they were they were [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► still like on VHS oh yea seeing the VHS [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► is you can have three pack set with you [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► basically the whole first season on I [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► went out and bought that and watch the [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► whole first season on VHS in between the [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► first two episodes i saw of season two [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► and it was like yeah okay and then i was [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► i was in for the long run lean what [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► about you what's your what's your [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► history with the show you know I am [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► trying to remember actually because so [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► it it aired in 97 and we didn't get the [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► WB so I didn't actually start watching [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► it and tell like the early two thousands [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► I couldn't even tell you what season and [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► it was only like really briefly and [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► because then I went away to college and [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► didn't have a TV so i actually haven't [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► seen the last couple of seasons of buffy [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► and my husband and I started a watch / [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► rewatch and a few months ago and I don't [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► know what's coming like I think one of [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► the latest episodes i've seen as and is [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► the musical well just a moment and so [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► you know once more with feeling and so [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► so my history with buffy is actually [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► like I guess more recent dish because I [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► i saw it piecemeal I never saw anything [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► in order i just kinda side as reruns [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► came on TV and I do own the first season [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► on DVD because my intention before [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► netflix one has to to buy them and watch [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► them all and I remember thinking that [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► the first season was weak and what I'm [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► going to say I've been watching it i [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► binge-watched probably talk about this a [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► little bit i haven't watched nine of the [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► 12 episodes of the first season [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► I'm over the last couple of days and I [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► it's pretty good i I don't know what I [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► was thinking when I was like it's it's [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► not that great so and I like it I like [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► there's some pretty quick [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► character development that i think is [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► awesome and so I think you know for a [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► first season especially it's one of the [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► stronger first seasons I've seen even [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► like with modern TV competing against it [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► so you know watch it people it's good [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► it's cheap I mean that that's the thing [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► that struck me about it i mean it's so [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► cheap that when this is actually it was [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► airing when I went to the Babylon 5 set [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► and one of the producers on babble [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► 15 said we were talking about Buffy [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► briefly because although some of the [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► monsters they show them the the big bug [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► monster in the teacher's pet episode of [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► season one looks like it was possibly [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► reused from Babylon 5 and the guy said [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► yeah I don't know what they're doing [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► over there it should probably look [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► better given given you know that they [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► should be able to make it look better [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► than it does I mean you do get the sense [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► like the budget was low and they didn't [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► necessarily really know what they were [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► doing there wasn't a sci-fi industry to [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► the head to the level that there is now [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► a genre TV there was a lot less of it [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► back then [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► believe it or not but uh so we get there [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► are moments where I think it looks cheap [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► but it's got its got characters it's got [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► dialogue it's got it really commits to [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► the the the your your demons that [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► tormented you in high school [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► what if those were actually demons [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► premise of the show and gives you the [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► standalone episodes that are very much [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► like you know drilling down into uh a [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► particular aspect of high school as a [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► horror show and making those you know [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► making those things real and exploring [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► them that way it's got its got a great [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► ensemble that's their from from the [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► start [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► it's got some interesting tasks [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► structures especially since Cordelia's [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► in the opening credits and she's like [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► yeah I a villain for almost the entire [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► season that's really interesting and [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► then I think one of the things about the [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► show that struck me at the time that now [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► seems normal but I think that's because [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► that's how influential this was is the [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► way that this season is structured is [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► they have the big bad witch [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► I'd never heard and i think is a term [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► that was coined by Joss Whedon in Buffy [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► the idea that you have an overarching [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► villain who carries through the season [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► but not every episode is about them but [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► some are and some are surprisingly so [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► and then at the end Buffy resolves its [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► storyline and then you move on to the [TS]

00:11:22 ◼   ► next season and that was not something [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► that I that a lot of shows were doing at [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► this point because a lot of shows were [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► doing cliff hangers and things like that [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► and instead with Buffy [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► you know the master dies at the end of [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► episode 12 that's how that works and [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► he's been the big bad for the whole [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► season from the very first episode you [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► know you didn't have exactly those [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► self-contained seasons where you had an [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► overarching storyline that didn't [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► necessarily show up all the time but [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► they're be threads you know and and then [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► one thing that's really interesting if [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► if you're paying attention she only [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► meets the master face-to-face in the [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► final episode right so it's not like you [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► know hope we're going to fight the [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► master every week and then we're gonna [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► like beat him but not all the way but [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► like the flash does with zoom your [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► rising up all right right and and you [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► know and so looking back from here you [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► know you wouldn't have all the Berlin t [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► verse DC shows structured the same way I [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► mean that they are all of them are [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► playing off of the buffy playbook I [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► think there's so much here that is fully [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► formed [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► maybe it helps that there was that [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► screenplay for the movie and so he had [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► time to think about it and what he had [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► time to think about what he didn't like [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► about what they did when they filmed it [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► and I and they also shot a pilot we [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► should say there is a weird unaired [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► pilot that you can find on youtube with [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► the wrong i like that it is we're did [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► disquieting it's not as you know it's no [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► good no because I think Alyson Hannigan [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► is the character who best has her [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► character down from her first line [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► mhm and seeing that take it out of the [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► pilot that I don't care for it [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► I explain to my children today at dinner [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► that this is that the guy who made the [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► Avengers movies was actually the guy who [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► made my favorite TV show and in Julian's [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► like joss whedon what did he do some [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► heated Buffy was like I had no idea like [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► yeah what's kid we have that we gotta [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► educate you should I i want to add [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► taught ask about the episodes but i [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► think i actually want to start with the [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► characters because i think i think that [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► that the characters the dialogue are so [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► strong in this and I was thinking about [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► Buffy I was saying about Star Trek and [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► how people talk about like the truck the [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► the the triangle the triumvirate of Kirk [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► Spock and McCoy and how this is really [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► interesting dynamic that really drives a [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► lot of the character interact [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► and-and-and make Star Trek the original [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► series work the way it does is because [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► of that I think about the structure of [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► buffy and I the way the characters [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► interact with each other I think it's [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► kind of brilliant you've got you've got [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► you've got Buffy who is the the core of [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► the show she's your captain kirk [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► essentially she's your lead she's the [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► person with the power [TS]

00:14:03 ◼   ► she's the the you know him every [TS]

00:14:05 ◼   ► generation a slayer is called yada yada [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► so and she's got Xander and Willow who [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► are her peers and they are also as as a [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► willow refers to a one-point there the [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► Slayer etsy there the backup singers 444 [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► them but you've also got Giles who is [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► anthony Stewart head great love Giles he [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► is you know my god how many scenes to [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► see polishes glasses right he is he's [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► mr. English librarian guy right but he [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► provides that gravitas that's actually a [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► lot of what i like about like Tom Cavan [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► on jesse martin in the flash it's that [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► same kind of feeling where he provides [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► that adult perspective on the on the [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► struggles of the young people which is [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► kinda cool well well in and he sells it [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► because he's in the middle taking them [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► all seriously and taking all these [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► fantastic things seriously general [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► provides the valuable service of [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► somebody who doesn't talk like a week in [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► character all the time that you've got [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► the quickness and the what's the sitch [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► and all this going on and then somebody [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► else comes in it doesn't talk like that [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► for once in awhile he does and that's [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► awesome because he's a grown-up [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► yeah so you've got him as an advisor [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► you've got angel as this mysterious [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► romantic figure who's on the side and [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► and not in the opening credits of the [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► first season which is kind of [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► interesting but he is present throughout [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► the season and then and and you have you [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► have Cordelia as i mentioned earlier who [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► is terrible grade she like the best [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► she's the best but she's just awful to [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► them she's an awful person but she's in [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► the credits and you all the whole season [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► you're like why is she in the credits [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► and then the last two episodes the world [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► kind of opens up for her and its really [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► interesting right so I'll I i look at [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► this this ensemble and I think this is a [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► really interesting collection of people [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► and the dynamic and and great casting [TS]

00:15:53 ◼   ► and all that so I that's my [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► you-know-what [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► what if you've got observations i can [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► walk through the characters if you want [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► but if you've got observations about [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► these characters please share because i [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► think i think the structure and the [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► individual characters are great i was [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► going to say with Cordelia its high [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► school so you have to have a mean girl [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► right yeah you have a mean girl who was [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► 27 years old well yes well and also to [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► put stuff in opposition to Cordelia [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► because you get the sense throughout and [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► and if you see them seen buffy movie [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► it's absolutely clear that Cordelia is [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► what Buffy was and Buffy now because you [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► asked the Slayer and because she's been [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► outcast from LA and has to live in you [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► know terrible Sunnydale it's not la at [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► all [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► she is she is no longer popular like [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► Cordelia and she's gotta run around and [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► she she loves and Willow but the fact is [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► she is now her statuses cast her out and [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► so Cordelia represents everything that [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► buffy is lost from her life by being the [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► Slayer and then Cordelia get to do cool [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► things once towards the end of the first [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► season like roaring up in the car saying [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► getting if it's awesome because it's the [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► last thing you expect that point [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► Cordelia's character growth is something [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► I really like about the series that's [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► why I reacted with horror [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► I've heard people say they watched angel [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► but not Buffy I don't understand how you [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► can do that you don't understand and [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► that's that's like coming in at the [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► beginning of Act three in a character's [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► life [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► yeah I think she's excellent I she's one [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► of those people i really love to hate [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► because you get these glimpses of her [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► like especially at the the not prom [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► what is whatever that dances this is [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► larry flynt yeah whatever made with a [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► mainstream here [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► yeah and you know she's she's like [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► campaigning and such a rotten person and [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► then we get these Lake glimpses where [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► it's like oh she's super insecure like [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► she is extremely insecure and she's [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► hiding that behind like all of this BS [TS]

00:17:55 ◼   ► rate and and and it's just like glimpses [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► that are played so so well and we see [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► more and more of that as you know those [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► things go on and then kind of an angel [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► too [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► and i love i love the Xander willow [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► Buffy and dynamic especially as you know [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► in seasons two and three because and [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► they just they really work together well [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► it never felt to me like they were [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► trying to get their feet under them they [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► just seem to have a report kinda right [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► away and I think that's hard i think [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► it's extremely hard it's not something [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► that I see very often [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► willow I love ok so i love we have main [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► characters we have Cordelia we have [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► puffy we have willow we have Xander and [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► I guess you've got like basically three [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► men and three women don't forget jesse [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► jesse is there buddy Jesse's gonna be [TS]

00:18:51 ◼   ► with remember just dead for general [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► nobody believe that for one second jesse [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► is so boring I said in 2002 that Darla [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► has more character in the first syllable [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► of her introduction and Jesse does in [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► every second of screentime put together [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► i just like to imagine that jesse jesse [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► is the one who's the lifelong friend [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► Xander and Willow and then like he's [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► gone and you gonna do you ever talk [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► about Jesse again later when we don't [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► lament him at all it's just like okay [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► well but you're right you got you got [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► you got Buffy and Willow and Cordelia [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► you've also got jenny calendar who's [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► kicking around for a few episodes in [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► here too [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► she's honest she's stayed longer so i [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► wanted i wanted to say something we were [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► talking about this before we got started [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► thing that struck me about the dynamic [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► here that I totally have suppressed and [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► I think it's because it once it get to [TS]

00:19:42 ◼   ► get out of season 1 this is never an [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► issue again is I have forgotten how much [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► Sanders pining after Buffy throughout [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► and there's so many painful scenes of [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► him trying to ask her out and failing [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► and then he has a pity party for himself [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► at the end of the season where he [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► finally asked her out and she says I you [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► know I don't I just don't see you that I [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► don't see that way because how could I [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► your sander your zippo he blames angel [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► immediately which is so diluted right [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► but I'd and I think intentionally like [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► the the joss whedon knows that he's [TS]

00:20:16 ◼   ► deluded but it doesn't matter it's very [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► true to life [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► and-and-and so here's the thing is it's [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► painful and Xander Xander gets a lot [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► better later and the individual scenes [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► really bug me at the same time I [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► remember watching this at on first watch [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► and thinking well Buffy's kind of great [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► it sort of makes you know who if you're [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► Xander would you not have a crush on [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► Buffy and try to do something about it [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► but in hindsight it goes on so long yet [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► and thatthat's just I feel like and and [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► willow is no help because she's also [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► strangely unfortunately passive because [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► she's playing that she's she's in love [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► with Xander and it's unrequited and and [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► all of these things but she won't say [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► anything or do anything about it and she [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► you know in the the closer she comes is [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► in the episode where we're sander says [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► that she's one of the guys and later [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► Xander is told that he's one of the [TS]

00:21:13 ◼   ► girls and that's a nice turn about ten [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► she has greatly in that but you know [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► that whole dynamic that's what struck me [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► as being not as good as I remembered it [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► because it just goes on for ya and in [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► fact I am i rewatch I only watched nine [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► of the 12 as I said and two of the 12 a [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► did not watch or two of the three I did [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► not watch where at [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► featuring zamberlan pubescent boy yeah [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► I'm I I just they're not good episodes [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► and I was just like I you know if I want [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► to be exposed to this i can look at [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► twitter and she no see see you know men [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► or boys like being behaving badly hurt [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► here and and I just I don't wanna watch [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► that so I just skipped them and because [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► yeah he's he's excessive in gross and [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► also kind of puppy dog like it's like [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► this weird companies super needy [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► yeah yeah what I what I still love about [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► him is that a lot of the funny lines [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► that he is the joss whedon surrogate for [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► a lot of funny lines again so so needy [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► and over it's just too much [TS]

00:22:28 ◼   ► I think united side I think he may get [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► too many of the [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► any lines especially in the first [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► episode nicholas brendon kind of [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► struggles with his pure quipped density [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► I like sander better when he's a little [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► more [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► yeah yeah yeah and even even later [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► yeah I mean I i really liked him by the [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► end obviously but even even as far as [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► the episode the Zeppo you know as that [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► plot the first time I watched it you [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► know I'm kind of going oh it's a Xander [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► episode okay i love Xander but but but i [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► think that's the reason I love Xander [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► because I know his I know where he ends [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► up i know that in the the story arc for [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► him but uh but here yeah it's it's so so [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► much pining over Buffy where there's [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► clearly nothing there there's clearly [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► nothing there right [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► and yet he never did he he he there's a [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► lot of talk and there's a lot of sitcom [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► e attempts to talk to her that just made [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► me roam I like in the witch especially [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► there's a bunch but it really plays all [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► the way out to prophesy girl at the end [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► of the season and that didn't that i [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► didn't i didn't love that I didn't like [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► the pining play did like once he shut [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► down and as wide a little more the scene [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► where he puts his own feelings aside to [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► go to angel and say we have to do [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► something that could have been done [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► without as much run up though yeah his [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► story arc is that he hits bottom [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► essentially he pines overheard the whole [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► season and then he hit and then she [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► finally asked her out and she says no [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► and he pouts like a baby and then he [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► grew and then he grows up and says I [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► what what matters here is that the world [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► might end and Buffy not die i'm gonna go [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► to angel and swallow my pride and then [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► he gets to be the hero right because [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► she's dead facedown in the water [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► she's been killed by the master angel [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► can bring her back to life and he's the [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► one who brings her back to life and [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► that's his Redemption right that he's [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► finally kinda come could come around at [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► the end but it all happens in the course [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► of like 20 minutes [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► can I just say that angel says I can't [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► bring her back [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► I have no breath two seconds after [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► painting heavily because he ran out [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► there [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► that's because he's out of breath that's [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► what he meant and not a vampire thing [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► he's just really really tired [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► it's not human breath it clearly breathe [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► that's how he talked to campus for cpr [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► it's like the magic thing [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► Monty just you wouldn't understand [TS]

00:24:50 ◼   ► alright maybe he just said that to let [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► Xander do it make you feel bad [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► see is a good he is a good guy [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► I don't like this angel I hope somebody [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► stabs him so let's see who else who also [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► we talk about Giles i wanted to mention [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► again i did laugh but seriously he [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► cleans his glasses so often it is a it [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► is the it is such a great Tweedy like I [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► feel for it for a British Buffy fans I [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► mean this is yes this is what we think [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► you all are right this is the stereotype [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► oh my god but but it's a great [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► performance and I love his exasperation [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► there's a there's a nice moment and i [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► think the witch where should be declared [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► she's gonna go out for the cheerleading [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► squad and he says I forbid it [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► she says what are you gonna do and he's [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► like appeal to your own good judgment so [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► it's so great like he's there is the [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► advisor he she turns to him because she [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► needs to but he can order around me and [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► they built a really legitimately great [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► relationship [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► he is such a great adult a parental [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► figure but he also essentially doesn't [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► have a father but as a so he's not just [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► the gravitas right but he's such a UH a [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► true like friend and mentor to all of [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► them and i'm not sure that's a [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► relationship we see a lot on TV and and [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► and that's not so great about Giles now [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► and I mean you you and I are both [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► married to librarians and I don't know [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► true but mine and loves the fact that [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► here is a genre thing about a kick-ass [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► librarian who helped save the world over [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► and over again I'm not sure he's a very [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► good librarian I don't know you know I [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► didn't say that no one ever uses the [TS]

00:26:33 ◼   ► lights up front it's always a watcher [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► he's not actually a library is a [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► research librarian actually how about [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► that that's right the season one school [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► only has like two rooms and one hallway [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► and no one ever goes in the big room [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► it's true libraries are bad and was [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► gonna say he Giles is [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► the parents like Buffy's mass is kinda [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► awful she's totally scattered in this [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► again Joyce asshole gets better in [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► future seasons but here she's just [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► unpacking boxes and not listening to her [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► daughter and thanksgiving drive by a [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► drive-by parenting where she like give [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► restaurant talking to women she's gone [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► again and kind of telling her hey Buffy [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► you kind of suck like hey look at all [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► this awfully stuff you've done it's the [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► superhero thing to which adjust witness [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► said that this is essentially like [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► spider-man this is this is a that was [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► one of the models for for Buffy and the [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► problem if you're the superhero with a [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► secret identity and your parents don't [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► know then you get in trouble with your [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► parents so he can't have like the home [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► she can't have the home home parent but [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► she can have the work parent who knows [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► and that's child [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► yeah so Jael of jails i would like to [TS]

00:27:39 ◼   ► have a Giles in my life we all the other [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► Giles really i think you look at the [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► structure of of how the show is built [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► how the arcs are built how the [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► characters are designed the interactions [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► designed and it's no wonder the dress [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► had I mean clearly he read a lot of [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► comic books and it's no surprise that he [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► went into comic books actual comic books [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► and then you know graduated to directing [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► comic book movies because this is [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► ready-made for that kind of world angel [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► so angel appears from the very beginning [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► he's it's a mystery about what his uh [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► what is a story is but over time we [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► learned his history that Darla who we [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► see in the very first scene which is a [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► fantastic scene [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► Darla made him a vampire long ago and [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► when he was when he was a young Irish [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► boy with a very terrible Irish accent [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► sorry David for yeah that's good for you [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► and it's got a lot better as an actor [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► after 20 years by the way but angel [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► there it becomes a prominent character [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► on Buffy obviously ends up with his own [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► TV show that was also quite good [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► actually but i'm wondering what people [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► think of him here he's going to be [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► mysterious stranger for a very very long [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► time dream is everything ready here [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► you can see he's improved from being a [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► block of wood to a block of wood that [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► has facial expressions [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► yep to try to sell me on a TV series [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► starring angel and be like really but [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► they kinda pulled it off it was kind of [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► amazing but here here he's you know he's [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► he's mr. tall dark and handsome he turns [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► out he's a vampire so we get the whole [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► great star-crossed lovers thing I am not [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► convinced at all that he was meant to be [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► a vampire at the beginning i'm not [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► either its heat they didn't I think they [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► hadn't decided right it's there's no [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► like telltale hint we don't really get [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► any of that for a little while i don't [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► know i think you know what's what's the [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► one person a slayer shouldn't fall in [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► love with a vampire I think that was the [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► Romeo and Juliet hurt ya could be [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► because what else would he be could be [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► and a good the idea of a good vampire is [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► also interesting you're in this struggle [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► with with vampires and with the master [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► who is trying to escape [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► oh hey what do people think about the [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► master i was always sad that we didn't [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► get more flashbacks and master in future [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► seasons because he has a lot to do he [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► really is just down in this little cave [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► pushing it is little a special effect [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► bubble butt doesn't want to get out but [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► don't know he was a weird and creepy and [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► not i don't know I and I every time I [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► revisit season one like all the master i [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► think we seem like one more time and I [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► love his sense of humor I kept wondering [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► why why none of his acolytes didn't like [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► when nobody staked him like he's stuck [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► in this bubble he can't do anything he [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► needs them to feed him he needs a home [TS]

00:30:27 ◼   ► he is completely helpless and these [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► these like evil vampires are like like [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► hot dogs like yeah which is central [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► leader he said he's a little vampire [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► cult leader [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► oh I was gonna say it's assisted living [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► for elderly vampire all [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► no he's older than all of them maybe he [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► turned all of them i don't know [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► yeah I think yeah it's like 200 years [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► older than flat the impaler's supposedly [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► yeah he's like he's like he's like [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► Dracula only worse it's the master but [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► but he he only walks outside in the last [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► episode of the season when they finally [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► free him with prophecy finally frees him [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► from from but i enjoy i enjoy the master [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► is a big bad though because he's [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► learning the whole time he's scheming [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► the whole time but as David said earlier [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► we don't get that confrontation to the [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► end instead she since Luke after it her [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► and he says Darla after her he's got the [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► gets the anointed one he did hes doing [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► all the copies but they're a bunch of [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► episodes behind the scenes where he's [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► working on things but you know he's just [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► in the background making trouble until [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► the end when he finally escapes [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

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00:32:14 ◼   ► if you think about how mattress shopping [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► happens in showrooms you're often laying [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► down on the mattress for a minute or two [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► minutes it gets really awkward it's [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► daytime people are all around you and [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► you're laying on a mattress trying to [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► imagine what it would be like to lay on [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► it for eight hours and you can't do that [TS]

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00:33:38 ◼   ► should we talk about the episodes a [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► little bit just do a little survey sure [TS]

00:33:43 ◼   ► there's episodes I like I want to talk [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► about them [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► yeah so welcome to help harvest I think [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► this is a pretty good pilot [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► even though it's not a pilot because I [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► just there on YouTube don't watch it but [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► they nice two-part episode aired [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► together even though they've got [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► different directors it was it was [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► premiered as a two-part episode even [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► though it was obviously produced as two [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► separate episodes and this is your you [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► know hey we have Jesse and Buffy meets [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► her new watcher and they go down in the [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► sewers and the the master has got his [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► pitch his plot i think it's a good pilot [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► we set up all the characters we get the [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► new girl at school there's I did [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► actually liked that line [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► hey did you hear new girl what do you [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► tell me about what can you tell me about [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► her new girl i kinda like I kind of like [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► that the kids are idiots which is why at [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► the end the Giants as last line is the [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► world is doomed because the teenagers [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► are the ones who are gonna have to save [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► the world and i really like the opening [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► scene that's like the that's adjust just [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► wheeling down his car like this is what [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► this show is which is it's a pretty [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► blonde girl and a big strapping guy and [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► they're sneaking into a place to make [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► out or something and then there's a [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► noise and she's scared he goes to see [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► what it is and she turns into a vampire [TS]

00:34:58 ◼   ► and she kills him [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► it's like yeah i think the bed that the [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► that horror trope of the helpless woman [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► alone with a guy in a horror movie that [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► the that's like message one in this is [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► the little blonde is not going to be the [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► victim and that's the show everything [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► about the show flipping tropes is just [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► like yeah I think it's a great pilot [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► because by the end of the first episode [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► there's a shot of Giles Xander willow [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► and Buffy in the library and even the [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► first time I saw is like oh this is [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► right this is the team yeah we're gonna [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► follow these guys for years [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► yep it is another layer of the [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► enterprise yep that's exactly exactly [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► another scene that I really loving this [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► is at the bronze strange business model [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► the prize anyway and the promise [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► there is that scene where Buffy proves [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► her power to Giles he's going to lecture [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► her about going out when she should be I [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► don't know what studying about vampires [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► are patrolling or something and she [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► picks out a vampire because not because [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► she has some amazing sense but because [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► his closer out of date he's been around [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► for 30 such a great moment right certain [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► that was the odd don't you think so yeah [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► it's a great it's a great back-and-forth [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► between them and it's just so much about [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► how you need to take her seriously even [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► though you might not think that you [TS]

00:36:23 ◼   ► should you absolutely should she she's [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► she's already very good at what she does [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► it's really setting up that relationship [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► between the two of them how lake Giles [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► is very you know that the English you [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► know this is how it's done and Buffy's [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► like f that i'm gonna do things my way [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► to and you're gonna have to deal with it [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► and like we get that right from the [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► beginning and it doesn't take Giles too [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► long to like be like okay because [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► because Lee I'm not going to convince [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► her that she needs to do things [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► differently and so he adapts to her [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► which is something I i really love to [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► yeah [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► mm that's true yeah but he sees he sees [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► here in this seem right that he you know [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► he can he can run her down about like [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► not taking your job seriously but she's [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► got the goods [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► she you know she spots the vampires and [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► she takes care of the situation and the [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► bronze and now yeah I think it's a [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► really good pilot it introduces all the [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► characters it introduces all the [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► tensions that are gonna happen in the [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► first season we get Cordelia who was [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► initially warm Duffy and then of course [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► turns on her because but he's got you [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► know stakes in her backpack and is weird [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► and hangs around with losers and buffy [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► is like these are my friends you're a [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► jerk and that and tells her off and then [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► becomes unpopular because of it like we [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► get everything and we and we do like [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► Monty said and on the bridge of the [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► enterprise [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► this is where there this is where [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► they're going to be this is the there's [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► your show [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► that's what the show was i I was [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► rewatching the pilot with I shouldn't [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► say pilot the first episode with the [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► kids and the fourteen-year-old is [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► watching and he goes everywhere they go [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► is really dark [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► oh yeah you know I said well ok it's you [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► know it's [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► vampire show for one thing so it does [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► kind of have to be dark but but the more [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► the more you're watching it was thinking [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► like this is great you know you've got a [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► nightclub that's badly lit you've got [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► tunnels and crypts they're badly lit [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► they must have saved so much money on [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► manages this is someone running in [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► filmmaking and once they can afford [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► stunt men in the second season will be [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► able to hide them better because it's [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► badly lit they don't have stuntman in [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► the first season and you know and I [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► thought yeah perfunctory fight and now [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► it's a little bit and I have one thing [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► to say about these the bronze well two [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► things 1i think the acoustics the bronze [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► are crazy because there's a live band [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► and people 20 feet away can have [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► conversations [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► yeah but also i think the two scenes in [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► the bronze were Buffy and Willow talk [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► about dating philosophy and then Buffy [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► and Giles talk about him scolding her [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► and her showing off her powers those [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► really feel to me like the scenes that [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► the actors had to audition with to see [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► if they had chemistry and they do have [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► chemistry [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► yeah there's just so much about those [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► things that established who the [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► characters are and how they think and [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► how their philosophies clash against [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► each other that it feels like they had [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► to work through those things first [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► so in which there is a this this is the [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► cheerleading episode and had to happen [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► what you get is this this really [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► interesting episode that it's got a [TS]

00:39:22 ◼   ► Cordelia dynamic because she really [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► wants to be a cheerleader and there's [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► the competition angle here there's the [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► pit there's some painful stuff with [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► Xander that made me not want to watch [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► that part but at its core this is also [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► about Amy who is this really weird [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► character that we meet who is super [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► obsessed with her mother and her [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► mother's greatness and you think that [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► this is an episode about living up to [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► your parents and it turns out it's it's [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► worse than that because she's literally [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► had her youth and her body stolen by her [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► mother so this is the manifestation of [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► parents trying to relive their glory [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► days through their children in this case [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► Amy's mom does literally does that to [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► her and then yeah they're spells and [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► they steal the spell book and there's a [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► creepy scene where they go visit the mom [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► and find out that it's amy and she she [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► doesn't she's not allowed out and she [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► just sits on the couch needs brownies [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► all day [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► yeah but I i liked this episode because [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► it is it is that archetype of of we're [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► gonna take an issue of of being a [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► growing up and turn it into a [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► manifestation of an actual like I'm a [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► monster in this case it's like a magic [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► adversary like a lot of episodes the [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► concept for this one is ok but what if [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► that happened literally jump which i [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► think is great guy great taking a [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► metaphor and saying because i have a [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► supernatural so i can make that actually [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► happen and then watching how that plays [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► out [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► I think really what gives the show a lot [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► of its legs and the thing i love about [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► this is is it actually takes something [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► that I really love about Star Trek and [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► establishes that right away so in Star [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► Trek if especially the next generation [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► if you know there's the episode where [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► Deanna Troi is having like some [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► hallucinations when she's sleeping and [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► she goes to captain picard and she's [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► like hey this thing is happening and [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► instead of Picard being like okay we [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► need to get you a psych eval it's like [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► okay so what external influences are [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► exerting themselves on you and it's the [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► same in Buffy how they can go to Giles [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► and they can be like look this weird [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► thing is happening he's like okay let's [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► figure out which what's going on you [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► know which is something that teenagers [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► don't get a lot of is the benefit of the [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► doubt and adults believing that that the [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► things that they observe a real and i [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► really really love that and it's [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► established right away [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► meanwhile choices to Buffy Buffy is like [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► I haven't gotten in trouble she says [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► well not yet right [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► it's not a lot of not a lot of belief in [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► her at home but one of those gold star [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► parenting moments yeah but Giles is like [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► oh this is Magic it could be a witch [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► right like he's on it [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► he's he's seen things yeah and also a [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► cheerleader catches on fire so that also [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► happens in this also i have to say this [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► episode must have under run because [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► there is so much cheerleading [TS]

00:42:08 ◼   ► oh my goodness that they they all either [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► that or they were really proud that they [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► hired a professional dancer to be the [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► one cheerleader who catches on fire and [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► so they show her doing a whole like [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► dance routine my herself and it goes on [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► for f yeah really does if you like [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► cheerleading maybe like [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► better but I i was shocked at how long [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► that went next episode is teacher's pet [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► this is the first episode about david [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► greenwalt who would go on to become [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► executive producer and run angel i [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► didn't really watch this episode because [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► you know it's the one where Xander falls [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► in love with the substitute teacher and [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► she turns out to be a bug lady [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► yeah I didn't watch this one either I [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► don't love it what is something boring [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► happened literally haha yeah is one [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► notable thing and it's it's in the [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► beginning which is a teacher actually [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► showing an interest in Buffy and showing [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► some faith in her abilities and I think [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► that is something that is noteworthy [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► about this that she is the Slayer right [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► like and everybody's looking to her to [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► save the day and guide them and and make [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► everything okay and she's a teenager and [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► she needs reassurance and she needs you [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► know people encouraging her and she gets [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► that from this teacher and then he's [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► eaten by a giant praying mantis but [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► that's like an important bit of a [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► character not not necessarily [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► development but something to note about [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► her is that she 16 while character [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► understanding [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► yeah in never kill a boy on the first [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► date we get some dating stress while the [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► master is also scheming but she she [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► takes out as she takes on a boy but then [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► you know bad things happen and he ends [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► up being really excited that that she's [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► involved in all this adventure and she [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► drops him because she doesn't want she's [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► trying to look for normalcy in her life [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► and and the boy [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► oh and cannot give that to her because [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► he's sort of like oh it's really cool I [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► could [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► she's got enough friends helping her in [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► this part of her life I think this is [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► not a particularly notable episode [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► although the master is scheming and the [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► anointed one is discovered [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► isn't this the first time since the [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► pilot that the master shows up again [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► that's telling us that he's actually [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► going to be a recurring deal [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► I think something think so yeah I think [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► so yeah I learned to not trust teenage [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► boys who are obsessed with Emily [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► Dickinson and love her because she's so [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► morbid [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► I don't think Emily Dickinson was the [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► right pic i think Byron or something [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► maybe so here black poet even although [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► that's a little on the nose but more [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► believable in dickinson ah ok the pack [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► skipped it skipped it once didn't need [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► to see it again this is this is this is [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► about like being run with a pack around [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► with it with a group and group projects [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► with a girl female with group dynamic [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► problems with group dynamics and all of [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► that and it's definitely you know making [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► an issue of it i don't really love the [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► the hyenas and all of that [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► however it is notable because the [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► principal gets eaten in this episode [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► mmm yeah and that's okay like what I [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► description of this show from 2002 yeah [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► on a field trip to the zoo is entered [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► joins up with the bad crowd because of [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► some magical hyenas then the bad crowd [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► starts killing things until the [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► zookeeper gets eaten it may sound silly [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► but when you watch it it's actually [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► Ludacris I have entertained myself from [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► the past this episode had something that [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► bothered me throughout the series where [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► something starts going wrong like you're [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► one of your characters becomes a hyena [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► or find a magical Letterman's jacket or [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► gets hypnotized or whatever and somebody [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► always doesn't believe it like in this [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► case Giles who doesn't believe that [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► something weird is going on and I really [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► felt like in the world of this show you [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► can't ever poopoo someone who says I [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► think there's a supernatural thing [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► happening out there is always a [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► supernatural thing happening Giles yeah [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► well but I mean if we're gonna go with [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► that why does anyone live in Sunnydale [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► you know like it's nice [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► realtor now good look social living at [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► real estate scam because there's so many [TS]

00:46:38 ◼   ► empty houses a lot of churn happening my [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► turn to be uh the the angel episode is [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► is next to this is here you know Hale [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► get to know angel see his story [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► he was turned into a vampire by Darla [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► Darla threatens choice [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► Buffy's mom you know any thoughts about [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► the the angel episode this is this is [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► where it's very much like at last we [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► know he's a vampire [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► she's a mean it is the Twilight episode [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► right except this predates Twilight I [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► feel like Buffy just missed the window [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► by just a little bit because this is [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► super angsty young beautiful girl is in [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► love with beautiful guy who turns out to [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► be a vampire oh how could their love [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► possibly be allowed to continue using [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► the lies that is good one [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► I know I know tumblr would have loved [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► this show never been around always [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► something social media has been a thing [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► in 1997 oh my god and even even so I [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► mean you were on livejournal and and I [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► was on livejournal renews groups and you [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► know it wasn't that didn't have the same [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► penetrating that we didn't have the [TS]

00:47:47 ◼   ► bandwidth to post pictures of David [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► Boreanaz brooding face [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► no I would go to work and there were [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► people at work who loved Buffy and we [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► would talk about it like that works [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► right was right that was what we did [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► that was what we had to do [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► David Boreanaz he's ok I think this is a [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► good i think this is a good episode i [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► think this is not just setting the [TS]

00:48:06 ◼   ► anthology but you're getting all the [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► premise of like he's trying to help now [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► we know why he's trying to help but also [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► he's got this whole problem and he's he [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► is a good vampire we get to learn that [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► but he's still a vampire and he has all [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► these other issues you know there's [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► there's no Giles is talk to Joyce so we [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► get the the surrogates meeting mr. Giles [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► there's just there's a lot there's a lot [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► in here so i think this is I think this [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► is one of the important episodes of the [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► first season for sure I find every [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► episode with Joyce is more meaningful [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► once you watch the whole series yeah i [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► agree like every time I see her and [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► thinking oh yeah I know [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► ok we were talking about this in the [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► incomparable slack today I robot you [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► Jane and not a particularly notable [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► episode but it does it does feature the [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► title [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► yeah a good title and there's a scan a [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► evil book into a computer which people [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► it's a deal [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► maybe in the computer it's in the [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► computer in the computer watching this [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► with two kids of today [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► you know I have to have to keep saying [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► this is a 1997 so they're like what is [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► that that's a computer [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► what yeah that's phone phone with for [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► that that wasn't thing you know [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► oh and it's not that made the watch old [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► movies it's not but there's just [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► something about all the focus on [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► technology and this one that every step [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► of the way it's like what is that that's [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► something that's a monitor [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► that'sthat's they're not flat it's you [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► know yeah I feel souls [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► I mean tell me it's not a terrible idea [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► it's terribly executed yeah they have [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► the money for a good demon robot yeah [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► yeah Jenny calendars and this that's [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► nice i I've never liked it throughout [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► the season we get and we get into the [TS]

00:49:56 ◼   ► future [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► the whole idea to the willow is I'm just [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► going to hack into this thing in [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► Sunnydale and and she does that all the [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► time and they make jokes about wanted to [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► give her a hook [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► yeah they did that was her character [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► hook it's because of willow that we have [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► all the security things now this is a [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► whole episode of that kind of like pop [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► plots uncomplicated by computer mumbo [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► jumbo and here it's they've got a [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► there's a demon in the computer this is [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► yeah this is this is like a bad x miles [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► of myself but yeah yeah well and as [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► somebody or a great 24 episodes your [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► point as someone who's a contemporary [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► with these so my freshman year of high [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► school started in 1997 so like it's it's [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► right on right and I was very careful [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► about my online identity when then like [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► I'm a much more like I use my real name [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► on twitter i would not have used my real [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► name on twitter if it existed in 1987 [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► your real name didn't exist to make it [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► didn't know that the recent thing a real [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► and so so I found it really unbelievable [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► that someone as quote plugged in is [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► Willow was just be like well Malcolm [TS]

00:51:08 ◼   ► lives 80 miles away and Malcolm's my age [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► and Malcolm says blahdy blahdy blah and [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► I'm like I was really careful into [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► people you know other teams I knew who [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► are using you know dial-up internet with [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► our fancy modems you know we were really [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► careful about and what we believed in [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► what we didn't believe and I know that [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► wasn't universally true but it just felt [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► like the nerdy people like willow were [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► more aware than willow tends to be in [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► this episode [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► well let's let's move on we will kick it [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► into the end game of this season the [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► puppet show [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► I i love the puppet show [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► I know that Ali didn't even watch it [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► because of the creepy puppet is so I [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► watched I was like the last 10 minutes [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► of it because like all right I like now [TS]

00:51:57 ◼   ► watch him die again i'm at he's just so [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► he's he's too creepy [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► well just it's i love that it's II you [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► know it takes the trope of like the [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► movie magic from the seventies twilight [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► zone 2 22 episodes about creamers museum [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► and it takes that trope and then it [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► turns out wait a minute [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► he's not the evil no he is alive but [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► he's not the evil one right and and you [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► know again the kids are watching this [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► we're going oh my god creepy I'll creepy [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► to halt its gonna kill people to my god [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► oh my god oh wow that's awesome and you [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► know once then twist happened he was [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► hooked like oh this is a cool idea [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► because they set it up right they set it [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► up that is that it's not you who have [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► they're gonna think it's the kid but [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► it's really the doll and then it's not [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► the doll either i love that moment when [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► Buffy and sit or are like literally at [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► each other's throats like about you know [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► about like in the middle of going out [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► and and Buffy's like you know basically [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► you're the one doing all this and he's [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► like you're the one doing all of this [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► and they're like wait what [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► just look at each other and I think that [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► that really is a great moment but I just [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► he's eat yeah hehe it's so gross [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► yeah he is but thatthat's I i could i [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► love i love it i love that he's he's [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► yeah he's gross annoying and he's cursed [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► and he was you know he wasn't always a [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► dummy but he's been cursed miss and if [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► you can kill this last creature there's [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► a whole seven of them and whatever and [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► he's killed six and this is less fun [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► than he can then [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► he's free of this curse which means he's [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► gonna die [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► I think there's a really funny episode [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► and this is a point I wanted to make [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► about this whole season in this whole [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► series so many shows these days are so [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► serious we talked about like even like [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► some of this so the Marvel shows or [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► series rob this hotel and Dean Batali [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► here at this episode road another [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► episode this season that wasn't that [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► wasn't as good that was that was the [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► never kill a boy on the first date but [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► these guys are are comedy writers [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► I think they were for that 70 show Joss [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► Whedon's scripts are funny of the all I [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► i get the sense that there is a comedy [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► sensibility and the writing here where [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► they are looking for jokes to tell and i [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► love it and it was such a change of pace [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► from the shows that even when they're [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► good are so serious and never take a [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► moment to lighten the mood or say [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► something memorable and funny like [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► there's a in in the out of mind out of [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► sight episode we're going to talk about [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► in a minute [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► um there's a stupid one liner we're [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► talking about the the kid getting beaten [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► up by a bat that was floating in mid-air [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► and Sandra says maybe it's a vampire bat [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► and they all give him a deathless it's a [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► stupid joke but it's like they made a [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► joke [TS]

00:54:41 ◼   ► look they made a joke in the show and [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► and this episode is full of them and i [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► love that it just it it although it is [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► in its own little internal consistency [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► of its world it is not afraid to just be [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► funny and and the show in general I [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► think this season in particular is very [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► clear that they had that sensibility and [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► social so few shows seem to have that i [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► will say that it's a sad commentary that [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► one of the most serious shows up in the [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► superhero genre in marvel's agents of [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► shield was in fact created by Joss [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► Whedon yeah yeah yeahs the the other [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► thing that I really like about this [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► episode is that it is constructed I mean [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► it's not a murder mystery but it's [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► constructed in a similar way where you [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► have the the setup it's beautifully laid [TS]

00:55:28 ◼   ► out to have the least likely suspect [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► turn out to be the demon that needs to [TS]

00:55:34 ◼   ► be killed but it's so beautifully set up [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► that you don't necessarily see it coming [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► and i love that kind of plotting i also [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► really like the end [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► it's showing Xander willow and Buffy [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► doing there [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► the talent show thing when I think the [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► only time they did something over the [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► end credits that wasn't just playing [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► music / black that they did this this [TS]

00:55:55 ◼   ► there they're awkward stage performance [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► we also get Cordelia's terrible terrible [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► performance of the greatest love of all [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► and she's convinced it's great we have [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► and we get armin shimerman throughout as [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► the ass new principle is that presents [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► warning from deep space nine he's grant [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► ave but especially I free my favorite [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► moment of his is where he's absolutely [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► silent at the end of the show watching [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► the Oedipus thing with with Giles next [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► time and it's sort of that combination [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► of well this is intelligent and they [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► picked something classic and they are [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► awful [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► what if I dialogue that I did doesn't he [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► say I don't get it [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► he's like I don't get it well that's [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► something at the very end of the show [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► before that there with a guy his partner [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► any cities just sees the tableau and let [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► such a great joke right baby that [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► there's the there's the guy who's got it [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► who's been who's been killed by the [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► guillotine and there's the the they're [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► holding the they've got the Vatican II [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► or the DNA that the ventriloquist dummy [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► and there's and and Giles is there and [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► all that and then the curtain why but [TS]

00:57:05 ◼   ► the curtain rises and everybody is [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► confused and he says I don't get it it's [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► just a really great joke like we've all [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► been in the moment of them trying to not [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► have Giles get guillotine right and [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► different and then and we pull back and [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► it's like oh there are people out there [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► this is ridiculous and it's very funny [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► so nightmares is an episode that is not [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► very interesting i think it's an [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► important sorry david greenwalt [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► showrunner of agrium now but this is [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► like one of those episodes that I don't [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► even remember it's more with the [TS]

00:57:40 ◼   ► annoyance Anointed One anybody watch [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► this one it's based on a story by joss [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► so joss whedon is given story credit on [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► a bunch of episodes toward the end of [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► the season where I get the sense that he [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► had a lot of ideas four episodes that he [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► could be [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► he could write them all and so he was [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► like oh yeah [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► Invisible Girl sure person who's in your [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► nightmares yeah you did you write that [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► one and one but it is also building to [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► that finale that he is writing [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► yes that's trained so the little details [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► where it's like here you do this and put [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► this in there it's an interesting idea [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► and I like the graveyard scene so I like [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► you know where suddenly Buffy's like it [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► was day and now it's night and she's in [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► a graveyard and what's going on and this [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► is her first encounter with the master i [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► mean it's a dream encounter a nightmare [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► encounter but it's still her first [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► encounter with the master and and it [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► really shows you know more more [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► character development for Buffy rate [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► like what is she really afraid of and I [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► thought it was really well done i [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► thought it was an interesting concept [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► like they could look across the street [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► and all the sudden there's there's a [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► graveyard there and it's weirdly night [TS]

00:58:52 ◼   ► somehow and the special effects are bad [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► so I liked those things and and I also [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► kind of like that they don't know what's [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► going on right away like it felt like [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► meet I don't know maybe it's just the [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► episode I don't know it felt like it [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► took them a little bit longer to get [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► what was actually going on and maybe a [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► quicker resolution than normal but I [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► kind of like that they had more of a [TS]

00:59:17 ◼   ► struggle because more abstract i guess [TS]

00:59:19 ◼   ► to try to figure out what was causing [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► all of this to happen [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► okay i don't mind out of sight this is [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► the Invisible Girl episode i really [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► liked this episode [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► although in watching it again I'm shot [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► sort of shocked by the pacing of it [TS]

00:59:31 ◼   ► because it goes on a long time there are [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► and there there is there there should be [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► more is incident in here I feel like and [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► instead what we get is sort of repeating [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► menace of invisible girl for a long time [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► and then they figure out that she's [TS]

00:59:47 ◼   ► invisible and then it takes a long time [TS]

00:59:49 ◼   ► for their to figure out that maybe they [TS]

00:59:51 ◼   ► could throw a curtain honor and beer up [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► yeah but that said I really I really [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► love the fact that uh [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► love the fact that uh [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► the this idea and there's a stupid line [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► with Giles is like of course this is [TS]

01:00:04 ◼   ► about physics and all that stuff no it's [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► not it's crazy [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► yeah but said no this is about physics [TS]

01:00:09 ◼   ► but it is the core thing about metaphors [TS]

01:00:11 ◼   ► coming true in high school on Buffy that [TS]

01:00:15 ◼   ► I love this is a girl who nobody pays [TS]

01:00:17 ◼   ► attention to until she disappears and i [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► just love that almost fable aspect of it [TS]

01:00:22 ◼   ► it's like this is what happens when [TS]

01:00:24 ◼   ► somebody is ignored is that they become [TS]

01:00:27 ◼   ► they become invisible and then they then [TS]

01:00:30 ◼   ► they act out it's about people being [TS]

01:00:33 ◼   ► cruel this is a monster that you all [TS]

01:00:34 ◼   ► created by being awful people to this [TS]

01:00:37 ◼   ► person i think it's interesting that [TS]

01:00:39 ◼   ► also we get the guys in the suits and in [TS]

01:00:43 ◼   ► something that has never really followed [TS]

01:00:45 ◼   ► up on ya again there's almost this X [TS]

01:00:48 ◼   ► Files aspect of the government although [TS]

01:00:50 ◼   ► it leads to a great little last scene [TS]

01:00:53 ◼   ► where the government knows that people [TS]

01:00:54 ◼   ► turn invisible and they take them and [TS]

01:00:56 ◼   ► train them to be a SATs ok alright so [TS]

01:01:01 ◼   ► the other thing that happens in this [TS]

01:01:02 ◼   ► episode is Cordelia really is kind of [TS]

01:01:03 ◼   ► brought into the into the circle right [TS]

01:01:06 ◼   ► she is she is she is being attacked by [TS]

01:01:08 ◼   ► marcy because Marcy hates Cordelia [TS]

01:01:11 ◼   ► because Cordelia's the worst right and [TS]

01:01:15 ◼   ► and she's gonna and she ties Cordelia up [TS]

01:01:18 ◼   ► and then she's going to attack Cordelia [TS]

01:01:20 ◼   ► and she's gonna cut out and she can hear [TS]

01:01:22 ◼   ► her talking but she knows she's [TS]

01:01:23 ◼   ► invisible she's gonna disfigure her face [TS]

01:01:25 ◼   ► and make her look ugly and and and learn [TS]

01:01:29 ◼   ► to live with not being pretty like she [TS]

01:01:32 ◼   ► is and so Cordelia like gets what Buffy [TS]

01:01:36 ◼   ► and her gang are actually all about in [TS]

01:01:38 ◼   ► this and she she you know she thanks [TS]

01:01:40 ◼   ► them at the end but also just she like [TS]

01:01:42 ◼   ► is no longer oblivious to what's going [TS]

01:01:44 ◼   ► on which right man [TS]

01:01:46 ◼   ► it takes another trope of you know the [TS]

01:01:48 ◼   ► mean girl was just always going to be [TS]

01:01:50 ◼   ► the mean girl and she's never going to [TS]

01:01:52 ◼   ► mature and she's never gonna grow up and [TS]

01:01:54 ◼   ► in this she becomes the damsel in [TS]

01:01:56 ◼   ► distress and she become saved and even [TS]

01:01:59 ◼   ► though she doesn't you know a hundred [TS]

01:02:00 ◼   ► percent reform at this point she's on [TS]

01:02:03 ◼   ► the path and and she I mean through the [TS]

01:02:05 ◼   ► rest of the series of angel she does [TS]

01:02:06 ◼   ► evolve which is lovely to watch so this [TS]

01:02:09 ◼   ► is it again that's you know taking a [TS]