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7: Law & Order: Atlantis

 

00:00:00   the incomparable podcast episode 7 / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/0">TS</a>]

00:00:10   2010 we are back on the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/10">TS</a>]

00:00:16   podcast and today we're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/16">TS</a>]

00:00:18   talking about TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/18">TS</a>]

00:00:20   joining me here is serenity Caldwell ren [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/20">TS</a>]

00:00:23   welcome hello thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/23">TS</a>]

00:00:25   and by the magic of the interwebs we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/25">TS</a>]

00:00:28   have from the great state of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/28">TS</a>]

00:00:30   Massachusetts dan more'n hi Jason and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/30">TS</a>]

00:00:34   John siracusa greetings everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36   are you sitting next to each other or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/36">TS</a>]

00:00:38   you in your separate locations if only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/38">TS</a>]

00:00:41   yes you'll never know already sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/41">TS</a>]

00:00:43   next to each other alright I like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/43">TS</a>]

00:00:45   imagine it that way so the the topic is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/45">TS</a>]

00:00:49   TV and I think we we all decided to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/49">TS</a>]

00:00:52   correct me if I'm wrong that we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/52">TS</a>]

00:00:54   going to talk about the fall TV season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/54">TS</a>]

00:00:56   you know I used to be so excited about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/56">TS</a>]

00:01:00   the fall TV season when it when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/60">TS</a>]

00:01:03   happened and the new shows that were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/63">TS</a>]

00:01:05   coming on and I cannot imagine a a fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/65">TS</a>]

00:01:10   season that I have been less interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/70">TS</a>]

00:01:11   in then this one is there anything for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/71">TS</a>]

00:01:15   me to be excited about this fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17   well it's a little weird right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19   that the TV landscape has changed a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/79">TS</a>]

00:01:21   in the last few years and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23   especially now with the cable networks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/83">TS</a>]

00:01:26   we see so many shows that debut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   out-of-season like summer shows shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/88">TS</a>]

00:01:31   the debut debut midseason that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33   really not as concentrated as it used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/93">TS</a>]

00:01:35   write used to be every fall you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37   that's when the new shows came out right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   but this stuff is very sprinkled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41   throughout the year now and so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43   I'm sure that the major a lot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45   stuff aired on the major broadcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/105">TS</a>]

00:01:47   networks still comes out in the fall but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/107">TS</a>]

00:01:48   yeah it's been it's been a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/108">TS</a>]

00:01:51   lackluster I feel like this year i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   a lot of the better shows that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55   coming out are the cable shows really at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/115">TS</a>]

00:01:56   this point the broadcast networks have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58   have kind of put themselves in a strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/118">TS</a>]

00:02:01   position where they have to appeal to so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/121">TS</a>]

00:02:03   many so many people but it really takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   like a mega-hit to make it i find it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07   funny that the the broadcast networks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09   still are trying to do something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/129">TS</a>]

00:02:12   you could consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/132">TS</a>]

00:02:13   sort of fantasy or sci-fi even though it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/133">TS</a>]

00:02:17   that I think that I suspect that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19   fantasy sci fi audience isn't large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/139">TS</a>]

00:02:20   enough to actually satisfy any broadcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/140">TS</a>]

00:02:23   network and yet they still try well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/143">TS</a>]

00:02:26   find their uh I find that desperation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/146">TS</a>]

00:02:28   endearing don't you like this and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30   the networks are just you know we've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/150">TS</a>]

00:02:33   to do something to get people to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/153">TS</a>]

00:02:34   us because we're not capable and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/154">TS</a>]

00:02:36   can't cursor have nudity right but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/156">TS</a>]

00:02:37   isn't even see me crying they'll try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/157">TS</a>]

00:02:40   sorts of crazy ideas and I I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/160">TS</a>]

00:02:42   why they keep going back to fantasy sci [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/162">TS</a>]

00:02:43   fi you're kind of right like even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/163">TS</a>]

00:02:45   have a wildly successful show you won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/165">TS</a>]

00:02:46   get enough viewers but they see things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/166">TS</a>]

00:02:48   like lost inside you know it can be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/168">TS</a>]

00:02:50   right that's the dream you know right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/170">TS</a>]

00:02:52   it's possible and the number of if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/172">TS</a>]

00:02:55   look at the movie industry the number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/175">TS</a>]

00:02:56   successful especially blockbuster movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/176">TS</a>]

00:02:59   that are at least science fiction you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   might argue or a fantasy is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/181">TS</a>]

00:03:04   pretty large I mean things like Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/184">TS</a>]

00:03:05   Trek and Star Wars obviously being you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07   know at the top of that was all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09   blockbusters right all the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/189">TS</a>]

00:03:10   westerns they always on the move like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/190">TS</a>]

00:03:12   sci-fi edge or something right so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/192">TS</a>]

00:03:14   can't argue even though people do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/194">TS</a>]

00:03:17   people don't like the sci-fi or that or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/197">TS</a>]

00:03:20   the genre stuff because those are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/200">TS</a>]

00:03:21   huge hits of the summer but on TV it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/201">TS</a>]

00:03:24   seems like you can't get more than a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26   million people to watch one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/206">TS</a>]

00:03:27   shows while they like it into our chunks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/207">TS</a>]

00:03:29   you know some fantasy thing happens as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/209">TS</a>]

00:03:31   hero to villain a fight in two hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/211">TS</a>]

00:03:33   it's over if you're gonna get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/213">TS</a>]

00:03:34   coming back week after week I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/214">TS</a>]

00:03:36   people have shown what they want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/216">TS</a>]

00:03:37   happen are you know fights between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   mothers and daughters and unwanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   pregnancies indonesia and all the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/221">TS</a>]

00:03:42   you see on like dogs here shows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44   lawyers cops cops that top show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/224">TS</a>]

00:03:47   remanded and murder in just human drama [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/227">TS</a>]

00:03:50   are the longest lasting shows with those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52   ridiculous soap operas the ones that run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/232">TS</a>]

00:03:53   for like 50 years being that the obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   example that you can just keep the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   going forever so I think the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/237">TS</a>]

00:03:58   interesting is that the story is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/238">TS</a>]

00:04:01   smaller doses the public wanted to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   which kind of gets eventually to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/243">TS</a>]

00:04:05   whole lost backlash in anger you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/245">TS</a>]

00:04:07   the funny funny thing is that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/247">TS</a>]

00:04:09   tried to mix them to write we had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/249">TS</a>]

00:04:12   space lawyers and space cops and space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/252">TS</a>]

00:04:16   doctors and those haven't worked either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   so people don't even want their lawyers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/258">TS</a>]

00:04:21   in space which way there was there were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/261">TS</a>]

00:04:22   spaced lawyers don't remember Spacely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   where there's basically I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   that there was a I thought that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/266">TS</a>]

00:04:27   show wasn't it wasn't on ebay stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29   the watcher lawyers right your lawyer I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/269">TS</a>]

00:04:31   was at like century century city that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/273">TS</a>]

00:04:34   God why do I know that future lawyers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/274">TS</a>]

00:04:35   lawyers from the future where their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/275">TS</a>]

00:04:37   argument that means a clever idea right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/277">TS</a>]

00:04:39   it's like they're arguing cases that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/279">TS</a>]

00:04:40   could sort of extrapolate from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/280">TS</a>]

00:04:42   present and the future about like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/282">TS</a>]

00:04:43   if there was a case about clones and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/283">TS</a>]

00:04:46   wanted to be free and not be used as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/286">TS</a>]

00:04:48   organ donors again that's more on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50   subjects and the sci-fi subjects and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52   is the characters I mean you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/292">TS</a>]

00:04:53   old cereals like Flash Gordon and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/293">TS</a>]

00:04:55   like that and I mean that did kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   have a serial of the week kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/297">TS</a>]

00:04:58   that everybody likes so much and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00   like bones and castle and that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/300">TS</a>]

00:05:02   typical cop dramas you have the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/302">TS</a>]

00:05:05   like the the big sort of action ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/305">TS</a>]

00:05:08   that everybody's trying to cram into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/308">TS</a>]

00:05:09   television this season they kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/309">TS</a>]

00:05:11   forget about the human and it tastes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/311">TS</a>]

00:05:13   like the human atmosphere even lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   I mean the thing that people champion so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17   much about lost a zoo the mysteries are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/317">TS</a>]

00:05:18   pretty but we really theoretically care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   about are the characters and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   that plays into kind of tvs need who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   it's all about the crossover forwards [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/324">TS</a>]

00:05:27   law-and-order Atlantis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/327">TS</a>]

00:05:30   Oh God hmm that's terrifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/330">TS</a>]

00:05:33   it will sell though people watch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/333">TS</a>]

00:05:35   sound effect there isn't like Clint love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37   da ya slow plugging a slogan of death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/337">TS</a>]

00:05:43   that's right is this is there like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/343">TS</a>]

00:05:44   fish whose the the judge murmur man if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/344">TS</a>]

00:05:49   you will I'm well i was thinking like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/349">TS</a>]

00:05:51   normal justice and an alligator bailiff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/351">TS</a>]

00:05:54   I think this is gold i think i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/354">TS</a>]

00:05:57   studio should be lining up at the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59   dick wolf is already on that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/359">TS</a>]

00:06:00   already printing money and we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   nothing because he gets all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   law-and-order money so despite this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   insanity or because of this insanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/366">TS</a>]

00:06:09   there are some genre TV shows this fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/369">TS</a>]

00:06:12   NBC is trying its level best to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/372">TS</a>]

00:06:16   duplicate lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   although it it's fear is that it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   to duplicate flash forward with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/380">TS</a>]

00:06:23   event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/383">TS</a>]

00:06:24   hey Jason what is the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/384">TS</a>]

00:06:26   unfortunately you cannot be told the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/386">TS</a>]

00:06:29   event you know great experience oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31   that's right rule one of the event is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   that nobody talks about the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/393">TS</a>]

00:06:36   I say talk about little I i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/396">TS</a>]

00:06:39   mean the event it do i I saw the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/399">TS</a>]

00:06:42   episode of the event actually and i miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/402">TS</a>]

00:06:45   the pilot and I saw the second episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/405">TS</a>]

00:06:46   although sometimes the second episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48   tells you a lot because if the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/408">TS</a>]

00:06:49   episode pilots can often be good and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/409">TS</a>]

00:06:52   they spend lots of money on them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/412">TS</a>]

00:06:53   and then they do the second episode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/413">TS</a>]

00:06:54   they have a real budget and they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56   are a second episode is very always very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58   illuminating yeah and it's hard i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00   they tend to be bad even good shows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/420">TS</a>]

00:07:01   second episode tends to be bad because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   I've got to find their footing as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/423">TS</a>]

00:07:04   series anyway I saw it and I i just had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/424">TS</a>]

00:07:07   that moment of like about my wife just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/427">TS</a>]

00:07:10   that this is ridiculous i'm not watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/430">TS</a>]

00:07:11   this and and I was like well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/431">TS</a>]

00:07:13   it's kind of vaguely compelling in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/433">TS</a>]

00:07:15   that I felt about flash forward for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17   while and then but it just seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19   it's a smattering of of various plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/439">TS</a>]

00:07:22   points and some wacky I mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   definitely wackiness they they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   downplayed whether it was a sci-fi or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/446">TS</a>]

00:07:27   not and and then of course at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   the of the pilot and airplane disappears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   through a wormhole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/451">TS</a>]

00:07:32   oh I think it is sci-fi ask your eyes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/452">TS</a>]

00:07:35   is definitely science fiction and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/455">TS</a>]

00:07:37   are and there's like a population of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39   people who might be aliens or not and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/459">TS</a>]

00:07:42   then a lot of people jump to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   conclusion of their aliens but they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/464">TS</a>]

00:07:45   got our DNA they're just slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   different so are they from the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/467">TS</a>]

00:07:49   which makes it sort of like the 4400 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/469">TS</a>]

00:07:50   that cable show which was about people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/470">TS</a>]

00:07:52   from the future I think coming back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/472">TS</a>]

00:07:54   something like that so you have you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   seen it have you guys seen you have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58   watching every episode because I'm that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00   desperate for sci-fi and television and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/480">TS</a>]

00:08:03   I don't know why I find myself compelled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05   to watch the shows fringes another one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/485">TS</a>]

00:08:06   then I guess we'll talk about later but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/486">TS</a>]

00:08:07   i just want to see this type of story on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/487">TS</a>]

00:08:10   television and no matter how badly done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   it is for example i watched all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/492">TS</a>]

00:08:13   flash-forward I will watch it on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/493">TS</a>]

00:08:16   event i think is going to be another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/496">TS</a>]

00:08:17   cautionary tale and it's going to be it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/497">TS</a>]

00:08:20   could be like an a prototypical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22   cautionary tale of what not to do when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24   you're trying to duplicate the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   successful of a program like lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/506">TS</a>]

00:08:28   because they are doing all the exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/508">TS</a>]

00:08:30   same things you would do if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/510">TS</a>]

00:08:31   trying to imitate lost but go overboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34   let's get all the ridiculousness of lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36   crashing when you're gonna actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/516">TS</a>]

00:08:37   matched with the realism of 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/517">TS</a>]

00:08:40   yeah and they put it in the trailer the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/520">TS</a>]

00:08:41   second I wish I could remember the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/521">TS</a>]

00:08:42   tagline but they say something to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/522">TS</a>]

00:08:44   effect the subtext of what that said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   that tagline is is unlike that show lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/526">TS</a>]

00:08:49   we won't keep secrets from you forever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/529">TS</a>]

00:08:51   and drive you crazy we're going to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/531">TS</a>]

00:08:52   you everything up front so by the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   episode they revealed more than lost in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   three seasons right and i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/536">TS</a>]

00:08:57   maybe their their eventual undoing to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   certain yeah like you begin to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00   that questions the questions on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   show could potentially be interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/542">TS</a>]

00:09:05   except they are answering them really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/545">TS</a>]

00:09:07   quickly and I think the one thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09   this does seem to lack so far that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11   is Ren said that lost really had going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13   for it was characters and we don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/553">TS</a>]

00:09:16   that on this show yet i think there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18   some good actors but like they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20   necessarily people is not necessarily a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/560">TS</a>]

00:09:22   character I feel like really invested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24   which ones are good actors what magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/564">TS</a>]

00:09:25   and mystical thing happened in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/565">TS</a>]

00:09:28   in a first season of lost what could you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30   point to how many sci-fi elements are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   there in that first season of loss right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/572">TS</a>]

00:09:33   there are things I can always on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35   lawyer there's no way there's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/575">TS</a>]

00:09:36   monster that might or might not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   supernatural and there's walk walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   right and as the polar bear and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42   horse that's not so how do ya thats just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/582">TS</a>]

00:09:45   a great girl and mr. but an exotic is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47   not specifically sci-fi my point being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49   that they took 22 hours to emotionally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/589">TS</a>]

00:09:52   tell character stories with a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/592">TS</a>]

00:09:54   tinge of of you know sci-fi is a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/594">TS</a>]

00:09:58   i'm making hand gestures that ring gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   see and it's disconcerting when the when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   the uncomfortable is not just an audio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/602">TS</a>]

00:10:04   podcast anyway uh you know they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   time with the with the characters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   and i feel like these other shows one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/608">TS</a>]

00:10:09   the problems with thought flash forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/609">TS</a>]

00:10:11   with the event is that they don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/611">TS</a>]

00:10:12   enough confidence in their ability to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/612">TS</a>]

00:10:15   a good show without all the flashing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/615">TS</a>]

00:10:17   bang and so they drop in all the crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/617">TS</a>]

00:10:20   sci-fi elements and are missing what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22   think made lost work at least for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/622">TS</a>]

00:10:25   people for a while because I know John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/625">TS</a>]

00:10:28   feels totally ripped off by lost but um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/628">TS</a>]

00:10:31   but they did at least you got to admit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/631">TS</a>]

00:10:32   that they spend time with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   characters and yeah i think that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/634">TS</a>]

00:10:35   show does not pay off at all if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/635">TS</a>]

00:10:38   not invested in the characters are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/638">TS</a>]

00:10:39   know totally I know that's pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   what but the payoff is if you believe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/641">TS</a>]

00:10:44   there to be a pale and I think that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46   definitely the event doesn't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48   yet it really has an established a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50   strong case for it going in it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/650">TS</a>]

00:10:53   still have some great story hooks i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55   to say that I think that you know I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/655">TS</a>]

00:10:58   watched all three episodes i guess and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/658">TS</a>]

00:11:00   the though at least the most recent one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/660">TS</a>]

00:11:03   the cliff the sort of my last seen that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/663">TS</a>]

00:11:05   they review on is a great scene it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/665">TS</a>]

00:11:08   is really one of those sort of whoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10   what's going on your scenes and not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/670">TS</a>]

00:11:14   like keep hooking you in for that next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/674">TS</a>]

00:11:15   show but they'll resolve it within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   first scene of the next show right maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   I got even down this was a kid like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   was bottled my mind was bottle when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/681">TS</a>]

00:11:22   were like hitting it there that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/682">TS</a>]

00:11:24   these people infiltrating certain ranks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26   like they dropped the hint at first when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/686">TS</a>]

00:11:27   they drop it verbally they say hey you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29   know they have some guys say on camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/689">TS</a>]

00:11:30   there maybe you know who knows how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32   deeply they've infiltrated the very next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/692">TS</a>]

00:11:34   scene like yep that's kind of what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/694">TS</a>]

00:11:37   spend you know there's like four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/697">TS</a>]

00:11:38   episodes not revealing who Ben was when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40   he was a henry gale or whatever like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/700">TS</a>]

00:11:42   a parabola to that this is not the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/702">TS</a>]

00:11:44   as which seems without giving away the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/704">TS</a>]

00:11:46   answer but don't worry because they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/706">TS</a>]

00:11:47   like 50 more questions to pull out more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   about this okay we answer that board [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/709">TS</a>]

00:11:50   about this okay we answer that you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52   build the show on that you're going down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/712">TS</a>]

00:11:53   a check coughing all the wrong things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/713">TS</a>]

00:11:55   about lost reminded me a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57   heroes actually which was sort of in its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/717">TS</a>]

00:12:00   first season people said see it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/720">TS</a>]

00:12:01   lot it's not it's like lost but better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/721">TS</a>]

00:12:03   because they are answering questions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/723">TS</a>]

00:12:04   since like yeah they're there they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/724">TS</a>]

00:12:06   answering questions that's one thing you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08   get when you many questions nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/728">TS</a>]

00:12:09   nobody watches and we're gonna get any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11   more ice and eventually just becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13   ridiculous like three episodes and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   already kind of ridiculous you have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   can't name a show the event and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19   know you're really gonna find out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   the event is or not and at this rate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/741">TS</a>]

00:12:22   we're going to find out what the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/742">TS</a>]

00:12:23   is in two episodes and then what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/743">TS</a>]

00:12:24   they going to do I guess they'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   cancelled that so and what you got us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28   but talk about the acting you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/748">TS</a>]

00:12:29   Jason Ritter running around basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31   saying where's my girlfriend with my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/751">TS</a>]

00:12:32   girlfriend you've got blair Underwood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34   saying I'm the president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/754">TS</a>]

00:12:35   i'm the president and then you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   laura innes who I think was cast in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/757">TS</a>]

00:12:39   because she sort of talks like an alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/759">TS</a>]

00:12:42   so let her be an alien all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/762">TS</a>]

00:12:45   elko evonik who is my favorite the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/765">TS</a>]

00:12:48   creepy City Security Advisor guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50   yes that's his third party was born to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   play while United States basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54   played that part in in the first season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56   of 24 too i think are roughly about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/776">TS</a>]

00:12:58   some other equally sinister oh yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/778">TS</a>]

00:13:01   was the Magister under blood or it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03   be yeah i think so I it's funny because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/783">TS</a>]

00:13:06   I first saw him in homicide where he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/786">TS</a>]

00:13:07   a good guys everywhere and anybody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09   almost always a bad guy and but he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   introduced to me as a good guy on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/791">TS</a>]

00:13:14   homicide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/794">TS</a>]

00:13:15   and so now it's always am always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/795">TS</a>]

00:13:16   disappointed because I was like he might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18   be a good guy he might not be evil and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/798">TS</a>]

00:13:19   he's always evil and it's too bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21   because you know on homicide he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   good guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/803">TS</a>]

00:13:23   why do you think it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/803">TS</a>]

00:13:24   interesting to be said for the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26   that intern at least for me I've watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28   three episodes i can think of everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30   by their character their character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/810">TS</a>]

00:13:31   archetypes but i cannot in any way think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/811">TS</a>]

00:13:34   of their names i can't think of Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/814">TS</a>]

00:13:35   others named in the like his character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   named justin was writing his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/817">TS</a>]

00:13:38   girlfriend's name is Lila or leila or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   something like that and i can't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/820">TS</a>]

00:13:41   I can't remember his name I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/821">TS</a>]

00:13:43   remember the cops like I can't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   any i can remember the president's name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/825">TS</a>]

00:13:46   although i don't think that president [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/826">TS</a>]

00:13:47   Taylor Underwood's that's the point we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/827">TS</a>]

00:13:51   remember the actors and we remember I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/831">TS</a>]

00:13:52   mean if it's a good character drama it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/832">TS</a>]

00:13:54   you should be able to remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   characters you should not have to resort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   to television without your drama poses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   like a it's like a video game we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/840">TS</a>]

00:14:03   it is is set pieces and cutscenes right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/843">TS</a>]

00:14:04   well I mean it's never intentional I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   gameplay there's a difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   relying on actors and relying on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   characters right like you know there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12   solid actors in that show but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/852">TS</a>]

00:14:14   not playing characters and remanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   wayside internet to say exposition and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18   look out and come here and I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/858">TS</a>]

00:14:19   find my girlfriend and then you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/859">TS</a>]

00:14:21   people who are given any exit that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/861">TS</a>]

00:14:22   dramatic scenes between people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   someone has information that the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/864">TS</a>]

00:14:25   person doesn't want to have and they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/865">TS</a>]

00:14:26   nothing with them like think of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28   scenes with the henry lost where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30   have this big dance with so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/870">TS</a>]

00:14:32   different characters trying to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/872">TS</a>]

00:14:33   out if it's legit or not that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35   writing that's the way you do that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   this show is just by the numbers guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/877">TS</a>]

00:14:40   goes into the room I need to know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/880">TS</a>]

00:14:41   answers now is I'm the president I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/881">TS</a>]

00:14:42   tell you've seen over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/882">TS</a>]

00:14:43   well that's not a show i think i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/883">TS</a>]

00:14:46   was trying to think about how lost would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48   do it but the problem is that i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/888">TS</a>]

00:14:49   there's also just fear involved in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/889">TS</a>]

00:14:51   creative choices being made here because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   they're afraid they're going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/893">TS</a>]

00:14:54   cancelled so quickly so they try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56   trying to make an impression but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58   problem is if you if you run that pace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00   too long like John what you said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/900">TS</a>]

00:15:03   they will run out of things to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   about and and you know I when I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07   about what loss would do with something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/907">TS</a>]

00:15:08   like the event I think okay there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10   really great story in these people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/910">TS</a>]

00:15:13   were being kept in that camp in Alaska [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15   or wherever and and and then discovering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/915">TS</a>]

00:15:19   that they were not actually quite human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   and all of that and yet you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/921">TS</a>]

00:15:24   just tossed off and then they move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/924">TS</a>]

00:15:25   with you no more people running through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27   the desert next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/927">TS</a>]

00:15:28   lotions and car chases and and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/928">TS</a>]

00:15:30   escaping from the police and and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32   that's sort of your bog-standard action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/932">TS</a>]

00:15:34   device which is why I think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   what they're really trying to do is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   is do 24 more than they're trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40   lost which was a completely although not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/940">TS</a>]

00:15:42   really a genre show in the sense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/942">TS</a>]

00:15:44   being you know explicitly fantastic it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/944">TS</a>]

00:15:47   was also something that was completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49   fantasy and could never possibly happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   and was just wall-to-wall action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53   the event is really reminds me of one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/953">TS</a>]

00:15:55   my favorite sort of apocryphal stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   about about the Olive Garden of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59   places which is to say is that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01   this this law is sort of you know urban [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/961">TS</a>]

00:16:04   legend type story i don't know if this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/964">TS</a>]

00:16:05   is true enough but i love the idea of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/965">TS</a>]

00:16:07   this story which is that they spent you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/967">TS</a>]

00:16:09   know they spent a million dollars trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/969">TS</a>]

00:16:12   to make their sauce [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/972">TS</a>]

00:16:15   they're like red pasta sauce as bland as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/975">TS</a>]

00:16:18   possible so that there's many people as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/978">TS</a>]

00:16:20   possible with like it which i just i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   mean i think that's that's such a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24   microcosm of all these issues of we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/984">TS</a>]

00:16:26   going to try to make this program as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/986">TS</a>]

00:16:29   kind of inoffensive as possible in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   of not like riling up anybody or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/991">TS</a>]

00:16:34   doing anything particularly innovative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/994">TS</a>]

00:16:35   so that people will watch it like so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38   that it's not necessarily bad but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/998">TS</a>]

00:16:41   just kind of bland they don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43   challenge the audience that's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:44   I lost lost would challenge the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46   are not one good example of that is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   see that are lost always did flashbacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:50   let's do flashbacks my first of all they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52   don't they forgot the reason loss was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:53   doing the flashbacks was for character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:54   development they never do them for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56   character development on the event and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:57   seconds every time they have a flashback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:58   a title comes flying at you in 3d [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:01   I'll tell you exactly tell you look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   how long ago I wasn't it's comical like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   10 minutes ago it seemed minutes ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07   22 minutes ago that is the funny hopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09   about that show it is it makes me laugh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   at you can do a drinking game based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:12   that is seriously like 10 minutes before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   three minutes later eight days earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:17   for years earlier wait don't tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19   what's the city we can figure it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:21   from context if you write it while lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23   never did that lost change scenes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:24   you had no idea and I wasn't totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   started to talk that's the point though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   is like in a show like lost they treated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30   the audience is smart enough as if we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:32   flashing to 1944 you're going to be able [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:34   to tell by the clothing you the costume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36   choices and you're going to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:37   tell because someone's gonna drop it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   dialogue you don't need to tell somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:40   by three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:41   when the words at them or are by what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43   they seem to know they seem to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45   this person is still alive this seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:46   not know about exit must be before why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48   like you know just it's the event is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:51   dumb down that there's nothing left to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:54   do except to just watch events unfolded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:56   i feel like i could get a synopsis of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:57   the event and I'm the one they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59   have just called it events that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:01   a good name through a series of events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:04   that are happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:05   um ok so let's move on and talk to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   what you wanna talk about dumb shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   because i don't want to follow that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:10   oh ok go ahead I i have a list here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:13   you can you can drive your color go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:14   ahead is no is no ordinary family and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:17   fact it's funny that you should mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:18   again because i was about to say so no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:19   no ordinary family is another show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:22   sort of a bizarre fusion actively dump [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:25   the incredibles and well really the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:28   incredibles is is the is the mode it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30   live-action version of The Incredibles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:31   which itself was sort of a watch men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:34   happy Fantastic Four kind of thing again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:39   it was in fun right it had good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   characters it was funny it had something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:44   to go for it where is no ordinary family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:45   like forget subtext barely has text so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:50   guess what I'm fast as you know I out so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:54   I watched the pilot and i kinda liked it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56   i mean let me let me say that back it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1136">TS</a>]

00:19:00   and their credit they don't come on i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   can take it but bring it on it has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   of the worst dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   yes some of the most like terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   character development again no subtext [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:12   no response [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:13   I admit there are couple things in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   show where I thought usually sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   twist part oh yeah oh ok that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:20   interesting there were some references [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22   in there that I thought were good there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:23   was some like comic book and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:24   pop-culture references that were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   yelling graph that were just like oh i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:27   see what they did there which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:30   migrate all that what happened yes there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:31   was all there were playing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   micronauts and in fact the only show i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:34   can that's made reference to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   Micronauts actually as freaks and geeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:37   and for that I will always love it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:39   there's like a watchman reference at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:41   point that you could you but you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:42   know the ride kicks are so much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:43   interested in the actual and Levy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:46   the dial your right is dialogue is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:47   the nose like that the whole point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:48   obviously was we're going to write this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   and the family is going to have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52   just like the incredibles actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:53   there's going to be some problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:54   between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:55   wife and husband and accept that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57   sort of like I am happy i am not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   entirely satisfied in my marriage wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01   well husband you have issues with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03   being so such a successful business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:06   person you know where it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:08   guys come on i mean it's very obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:10   what the situation is in that household [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   and yet you end up with all this dialog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   where Julie Benz has to explain that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:17   she's a very successful businesswoman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   you know I got that eight scenes ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:20   when you were putting on your suit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:23   and going to the make a corporation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25   having the meeting with the bosses have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27   you had better get into the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:28   episode there they literally have like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30   they introduce you know a couple server [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:32   side characters like neighbors who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34   literally have lines like oh I leave my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:36   phone on so my children can reach me if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   they need me or wow must be like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   have a another husband's basically yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   well someone's gotta earn the money for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:44   your family or whatever like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:45   literally like just sailing out they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:48   live this is set in an alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:49   universe where there is no subtext [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   pretty much it's just people just say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   things that they're thinking you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:57   i agree with all that and yet I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59   much more inclined to watch another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:01   episode III when i finished the pilot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03   no ordinary family i recorded the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:05   episode as opposed to the event where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:07   finished the second episode of the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:08   and said yeah I don't think I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10   come back here maybe on netflix or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:12   so whatever it was about it i mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14   the twist in the enough pilot the twist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:17   is that this guy you think that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19   watching I are our newly RR commish our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:24   shield micra checklists we talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:28   that but we talked about having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:29   barbarous Michael check but we've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:31   shovel the objects gerald [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33   yes I'm suddenly going to show that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   a bit lighter and only not that not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:38   that I mean like I have trouble with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:39   associations with both of those actors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:41   just because Michael chick was yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   watched all the shield the shield's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:44   great show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:45   it is really hard to see him in a role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   that is 180 degrees from that role and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:51   of course julie benz also playing she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53   was also on Buffy to ashes Darla ate a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:56   vampire and so and whistling twice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58   of course i like both of those actors i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:01   think there again their characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:02   really have little to do and have kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   of no chemistry though I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   hesitate to blame the after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08   actors as I think they have so little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:09   work within that script but um I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:12   know it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   but i like to try again i do i did like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16   the sort of the twist at the end so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:17   sort of the guy that he's fighting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   have a guy that he's finding that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:20   think it's just some sort of bog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:21   standard Robert turns out that he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:22   like teleport in a puff of black smoke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24   so he sort of the night crawler analog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26   in this except he doesn't look like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:28   devil and and Stephen colonize Stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:32   lawman's s.korea in fact I shouted at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:35   the TV when that happened I said no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:36   Stephen Collins no no you're no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:40   one of every chapter is a bad guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   oh come on Stephen Collins yes but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:46   kind of fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:48   I know if the thing about an ordinary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:49   family is like it's it's so cheesy it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:52   unbelievably cheated and like it grates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54   against my skin in my eyeballs and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:55   everything but it's sometimes a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:57   cheese grater oh it is it don't but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59   the same time like well I could put this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:01   on while i was doing laundry it's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:02   like it'sit's the first cut the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04   couple of at Castle episodes were for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:06   which is like this is cute but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08   nothing special and I mean castrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   become something more interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12   I'm kind of hoping but I mean the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14   the writing is right now which makes me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:15   so sad because it's it's great plenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17   right who's Kosho running this yes did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19   ever would in general Bobby and well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:22   the hope and and I haven't seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:23   second episode which will probably crash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   my crush my hopes but that my hope was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   iffy if you get the balance right you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   got something that isn't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   like Buffy level but you've got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:32   ability to explore kind of you got ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:35   like friday night lights you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   plot with with a marriage that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   interesting and they've got adult issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41   and you've got the kids and you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43   their high school issues and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:44   growing up issues and any and you throw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:46   this layer of of of fantasy on top of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:50   that sort of heightens everything and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52   could be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:53   that butters there's potential there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55   moments of brilliance and especially I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:56   know you said you haven't seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:57   second episode yet but there's a there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59   a similar sort of like all twist but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:02   there's something that happens at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:03   end of the second episode that surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:04   me because it was really dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06   well there's darkness in this and I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08   I when the plane crashes in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   pilot and a and a pilot Lee well pilot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:13   is dead because that's a good sign of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:14   any company so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   anytime toilet that uh is in a pilot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:19   will die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:19   that's the rule it's it's the title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21   character from the pilot and co-pilot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:22   always dies but they have the blob I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:26   will say I'm getting tired of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:28   conspiracy thing I thought that was cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:29   that they go to Brazil and there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31   stuff in the Amazon that gives them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:32   powers but it was so obvious by the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:35   of the first episode that so well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:37   company has a thing in the Amazon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:40   they they they know about the powers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:43   it's obviously a conspiracy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45   something's going on my that really a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47   conspiracy whatever happened to cause [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   we're a on this wiki right well yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   mean I'd rather it be a fantastic thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:52   that maybe you maybe plays out over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   long period of time I was thinking well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56   this is cool over over an entire year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58   they could end up having to go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1498">TS</a>]

00:24:59   the Amazon and try to figure out what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:00   is and what's causing it like note they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02   again they they went right to it in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:05   the pilot which was I was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   disappointed by that so do we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:08   need to start eating our own premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10   while we're setting the premise I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   know but I i recorded the second episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:16   so it obviously did something maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18   need to just fold my laundry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:19   well I mean the thing about this i watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:21   the second episode and the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:22   episode again the writing just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24   terrible the cheesiness probably there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26   there's if there's one point where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:28   husband and wife are in bed and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:29   tell me your three favorite word's or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:32   something like that or my three favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:33   word's and the husband's like you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:35   right and then they do the I love you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:37   and it's just like it's so painful but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:39   I'm i mean the cheesiness aside there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:41   are moments of brilliance you know Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43   by minutes of tedium and I mean it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:46   works out and i feel like i can still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:49   watch it especially with like the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:50   10 minutes of the second episode which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   is dan brought up it's like ok they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54   compelling things you're not afraid to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   put characters in danger like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:59   I'm like alright as long as you can stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:02   stating everything of like no subtext [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:06   would say it has the glee problem maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   i can maybe I can forgive the lack of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:11   good dialogue and I because it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:14   attempt to kind of explore characters in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:17   a way that I couldn't forgive the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:20   for taking its characters and basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:22   making them little plate little pieces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:23   on a game board that they slide around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25   maybe I'm maybe that says something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   about me that I was actually more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:28   willing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:28   to forgive the show with a bad dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1588">TS</a>]

00:26:30   even know what I recognize that it's bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   dialogue and I don't like bad dialogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:33   because i like what they were trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35   do and could see some potential and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37   where the event was just sort of noisy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:38   and and full of little kind of puppet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:42   characters at least they're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:44   make some kind of character as opposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   and I would and I i like the scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48   where that you know especially in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   second episode there's some really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:51   scenes were where Michael Chiklis his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:52   character whose name I can't remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:54   Jim something I mr. incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   no yeah choice to pick so it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:59   how his powers work there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01   interesting like that in the pilot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:02   listicle talking about the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   references I mean I I felt like there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   was a watchman reference in the pilot I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   thought that there was a tick reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:09   in the pilot I thought that there was an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   invincible invincible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:12   yeah no not invincible unbreakable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:15   reference in the pilot too so I did feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:18   and maybe and because i love i love and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   braker leading into that if I just it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   may be well because they're all they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:23   all superhero stories right so maybe i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   just reading into it but but my larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:27   point here is that as somebody who loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:29   the movie unbreakable and loved the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:31   incredibles I do have a soft spot in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:34   heart for us a show that seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   essentially be viewing those kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   stories as the model here i mean in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:40   ways this is and heroes had a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42   moments of that in its first season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44   right before when I'm an idea there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46   there's a great scene where where Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:48   milo ventimiglia character tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   figure out if he can he can fly by like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52   trying to jump off like a right monkey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:55   that's in the playground oh yeah right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:56   which is to any just Falls or gonna say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   anything like that I just I i love those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   maybe it was gonna sucker for practicals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   but I just I think it's the end this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04   a couple of really great ones in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:05   second episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:06   yeah so you know I don't know what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:09   says John I mean I think you might want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11   to give it a try just because you are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:12   hungry for this stuff I i setup to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:15   record just because i saw the ads and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:16   incredible my favorite Pixar movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:19   unbreakable is my favorite and night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:20   movie I'm with you there on both of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:23   I'm all set to to like this but I have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:26   500 tolerance for schlock and shows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   there are very few shows that he could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   make that transition from like hockey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   stealing this to drama like Buffy would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   be one example where kind of start silly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:35   but then they start cranking right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37   drama later on that's why I still have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:39   some hope for no ordinary family as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41   they can make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:41   turn ya transmission and really hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:44   make like a hero's was always dour from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   the beginning that was the problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:47   heroes like that one good season up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49   the end but they were just always take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:50   themselves so seriously superhero right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52   great hero was the only good in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54   first season like heroes story was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:56   hilarious and light and funny and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:58   self-aware and the rest of it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   same term irrationally get them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   yeah but so hows I think your family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:05   badly needs new writers maybe they'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:08   get some new blood as it progresses if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:09   they survive long right and if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   figure out what this let's first the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:12   event are no ordinary family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:15   I think no ordinary family gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:16   cancelled first on that i would agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   it's more likely mostly because of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:21   no ordinary family is on ABC and ABC is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:24   doing better and NBC is so desperate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:25   that they any event ratings aren't so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:29   bad that I think NBC has shown that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:32   they'll let something right for a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:33   year whereas if no ordinary family I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35   think it's too early to tell but if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:36   ratings keep dropping they'll replace it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:37   with something else I mean their ratings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   haven't been bad especially going up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:40   against Glee which is a big thing right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   well we'll see so we'll see we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   but I i think just playing the odds i'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   say that the show on NBC has a greater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48   likelihood of staying around just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50   because they're hoping that it'll it'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52   catch fire and they've got nothing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:53   replace it with NBC is a bit content [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:56   laughs at the moment yes the the sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1796">TS</a>]

00:30:00   little peacock and they're going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02   there also we also going through an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04   executive transition right now so so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:08   yes there's a merger and Jeff sucker is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   leaving and they've got the new guy in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:11   charge of programming and so that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13   may make it unsettled as well so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:17   let's move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:18   I actually wanted to talk about fringe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20   little bit which came up earlier fringe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:23   which is not new but is back for its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25   third season on Fox and I'm just going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27   to go out and say it i think fringe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29   the best sci-fi show on TV right now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:33   think I think every season has improved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:36   I'm shocked at how much better it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:37   gotten in fact all the end is starting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   at the end of the first season where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41   they released you know start doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:42   mythology stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:43   yeah and then they you know they had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:46   couple one-offs in the second season but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   also some really great episodes in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:50   second season including the the retro [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:53   yeah it's just that was fans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:55   ask they didn't I mean not only just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:56   whatever special effects they used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:58   make john noble look 20 years younger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1858">TS</a>]

00:30:59   but they just did a great job and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:03   show that's managed I think finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:04   managed to find its footing and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   a show that that cloaked it's super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:08   science fictional premise inside a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:11   comfortable premise that the comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13   promise was like the x-files right it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:14   was like weird things are happening and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:15   they investigate them but in the end it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   turned out know this is a show about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:18   parallel universes clashing with each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:21   other and they took a year to get there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:24   that's what I would like the show to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26   about the end of the first season I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:27   almost stopped watching and they said no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   yet that show that they had at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   of the first season that's the show I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:32   want to watch yes I want but the season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   two is that going to be the show or that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:35   we're going to go back to Monster of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:36   Week and like they're always on the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:39   between iron I have to be honest I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   going to make me stop watching but have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42   you seen yes i have seen this seasoning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   for the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:45   yeah i was seems pretty much a clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:48   I mean it's a parallel around to show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50   everyone but you don't know if they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52   gonna resolve that three-episode to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:53   back to Monster of the Week but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   all agree with this analogy tho friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:57   txt files as the event is too lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1917">TS</a>]

00:32:00   I mean I was never an X file span so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:04   can't speak to that you want i want the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06   podcast I trust it is you just might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   guess it's over it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:09   I i I'll of the x-files although I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:12   grew to hate it actually toward the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:15   because I felt like they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:16   squandered I I thought they were much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:17   better at the standalone episodes then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   the mythology and that the mythology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:20   murdered that show which is too bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   because I like it already did eventually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:23   kill it but they had I think they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25   six good seasons of exiles mythology and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:27   or was that went off the rails i'd say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:29   about five-and-a-half more but but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:31   but they're similar upside French [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:34   trenches the x-files with the serial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:35   numbers filed off although i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   was a faint right i think that was they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:38   were trying to make you think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:39   just the x-files it was something a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:41   little different but yes it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:42   spiritual successor to the x-files but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:46   no I think determine it has a week your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48   characters in The X Files exhales had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:49   character who know where they stood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51   changed over time writing those little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:54   people never helps with a cardboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:55   cutout infringed it seems like everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   is kind of semi carpet like for example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   i do not buy the romance plot lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   anywhere like completely but I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   that's a disaster i think they should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:04   never have made that mistake and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   they're one of the reasons they did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:07   because they felt like they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:08   switch the Olivia's they knew they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   going to switch the Olivia's from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   different universes and they wanted not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   work and they wanted to have that sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:15   of like who he doesn't know who he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:18   sleeping with kind of thing but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:19   because they were much better as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:20   brother and sister kind of yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22   like watching brother and sister kiss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24   when they're like my know it's crazy vs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26   The X Files where you totally bought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   tension between the two of them right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:29   and obviously stretched out too long and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   did the lying thing with in everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:32   but still you bought my attention from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:34   episode number one right but i'm not i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:36   gonna i'm gonna say that that I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38   like the French cast of characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40   better not necessarily first off i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42   that what we've seen with olivia is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:45   she was put in the position of having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:47   play the serious FBI agent for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:49   and her character was pretty boring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51   I feel like this season especially we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:53   seen that the actress is quite capable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   of all because having her play two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   characters really does showed that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59   Ali you know she's got some talent and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01   that it's just more a function s in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:03   ways of that carrot write the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:05   had a role to the angle to be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:06   functionalist reading Olivia that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:08   monotone kind of way though and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:09   that was kind of like I don't know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   they directed her to do that or that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:12   her choice for the character but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:13   like jeez convinced this this person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15   pretty because she act well but she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17   feeling that our Olivia she does fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:18   but then the old olivia is still boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   i don't know others i think she's less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   boring than she was but i but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24   the writers realized that she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:25   fulfilling that Fox Mulder kind of role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   and she was supposed to be serious and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29   skeptical and I think that's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:30   reasons they added her sister and her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32   sister's daughter was to try and give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34   her more thing with your side give her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   more things to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:37   she gets emotional distress and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39   think like Scully had emotional distress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:40   from her cancer and from like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42   just worrying about if things are real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:44   or not an ipad or maybe chilling images [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46   a better actress but I just need more I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   been doing the same thing I think she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50   but I i think that that Olivia it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52   know is works a lot better but but my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:55   broader point was that now I'm i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:58   going to call Joshua Jackson but really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2098">TS</a>]

00:34:59   at home he's Pacey I think I think Pacey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:03   peter is I think that's a fun character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:06   I think he's really good and I think I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   like that and john noble I think as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   walter johnson dr into without without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:13   Walter that show does not work i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:14   don't--there's practically a separate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:16   show like he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:17   I i would put him at any jo-ann its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:20   second that he's just about Walter like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22   bleep my Walter says I don't know Lance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24   Reddick is doing his thing and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:27   you've got now i can't remember name and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:29   Royals Broyles is kind of wasted there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:32   especially after seeing him in the wire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:33   well doesn't it yeah he's doing the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:34   thing right they don't give him anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36   to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:36   no no he's he's he's he's I i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:39   watching him when he's in it but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41   sorted doesn't have anything to do its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:42   trees the skin wire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   I mean he was so good in the wire right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:45   and we all know that I can although i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47   don't know I i would compare him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:48   favorably with Skinner on The X Files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:51   well they're feeling the same role [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:52   really come into the scene say something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:53   gruff and leave but right now it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:54   finally found something to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56   Skinner eventually they're always gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:57   be conflicted character and broil so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2157">TS</a>]

00:36:00   will the evil Broyles is not conflicted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   yeah they're all lieutenant Castillo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04   from Miami Vice under the skin little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06   James energy zone out there for you keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08   me informed others and Crockett keep me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   full it's nice that it's nice to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:11   honey I think they've had a pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:14   luck in guest stars and and and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   you know sort of guest actors I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   leonard nimoy especially I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20   just really enjoyed learning one is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22   state were seen with him and maybe but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   the suit was john noble the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:26   season him and john hope will have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:28   awesome chemist yet like the scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:29   weather in the parallel universe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   they're kind of like talking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:32   bickering I thought work to atty like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   quickly established the dynamic between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   these two characters who of course you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   know i always thought was funny that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   know it lately have the same initials in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:42   are clearly sort of the two sides of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44   same coin character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:47   yeah yeah I i agree i I've been very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:50   happy with it though I was saying this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:51   to my wife after the we watch the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:53   episode i think of the of the the season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2213">TS</a>]

00:36:55   of fringe i said this show has gotten so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:58   much better and and you don't usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00   see a show I think go from being kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:03   you know watchable I can watch the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   first season I never really I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07   yeah okay I it's kinda interesting just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   barely enough to keep it going and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:12   then the second season I thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:13   better and this third season i have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:16   last two episodes are the first two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:17   episodes of the season just I'm so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19   impressed i love the fact that they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:21   tell stories on both sides of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23   universe with the same actors more or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   less so you've got a couple playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27   different aspects of themselves with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:28   storylines that sort of intersect but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30   don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:31   necessarily have to and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:32   great i hope that they keep that going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:34   for I watched an interview with some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:37   the cast and and creative people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   sometime over the summer or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   and they said you know basically their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:42   goal is to if they said something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:45   if we can get you to care as much about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47   the people in the alternate universe as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:49   you do about you know the people in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:51   universe that we start with that is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:53   of what we're shooting like you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:54   want to get to the point where it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:56   just all these are the bad guys you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:57   from the other universe we want to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59   to the point where it's like well we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:00   kind of see the perspective solutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   well I mean from their perspective right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04   there universe had like a hole blown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06   into it and and our characters that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08   we've been told are our friends that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10   like to follow every week are at fault [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12   and so that you know they view this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   being there you know they're striking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   back against against the suppressor now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:19   their their their their actions are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:22   sometimes questionable but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   that's an interesting point about at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:26   what point do you you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:29   justified as a reaction to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:31   that has blown up buildings and killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:33   lots of people i mean it are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:34   justified is is the alternate Olivia who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:37   you can call fo Olivia or Bolivia or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:40   whatever else you want to call her you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42   know she she takes that guy and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   kills him because he she's got erase all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   the all the you know information about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:49   who's getting that box in the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:50   episode right well that's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   cold-blooded murder to shut somebody up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   and of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:55   presumably the alternate is just done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   some horrible things on his side and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:00   send all these people over to our side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:01   and yet the justification is that not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:04   only does he have this personal vendetta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:06   which is that his son was stolen but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:08   that they stuff is like blown up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10   people have been killed so I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12   fascinating to think that maybe our guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:13   are universe more or less is the is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:16   villain in this from their space also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18   making a doomsday machine and it's kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20   hard to paper over that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:21   oh yeah no he's the best guy you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:24   right hardware told it's a doomsday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26   machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:26   well whatever it is he's clearly they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   clearly painting him as evil is gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   tough to redeem a million i don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32   it'll be ready next year and even ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:34   with those to Olivia's because they act [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:35   in ways that are understandable and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:37   rest of the French team I think too but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39   not what not the alternate know he's bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:40   in fact it wouldn't surprise me and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   find out that all these terrible things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:43   that happened in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:44   the alternate universe are the result of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   alternate trying to get his son back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48   not because of the original breach but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   we'll see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:51   it's interesting I mean I i kinda hope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:53   that you know it reminds me it is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:56   of the beginning of this third season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:58   reminds me of one of my favorite parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00   from sci-fi television in recent years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02   on a show that otherwise kind of went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:06   off the rails which is the third season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:07   occupation Arctic battlestar galactica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:10   right is a fantastic art but I see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:13   John's point about the will they stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:16   with this plotline or will they go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:17   to sort of the formulaic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:18   monster-of-the-week I mean battlestar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:20   galactica 20 out on a limb and tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:23   totally sort of reinvent itself and had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25   did a fantastic bit of work in creating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:28   of you know a great sort of parable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   basically for are you know but the war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   in iraq essentially at that point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34   then basically solved the entire problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36   in like six episodes like right back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   the spaceship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:39   let's do this and that for me is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41   that show right totally lost the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43   difference here is that what they've set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:44   up with the parallel universes is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   premise twice instead of what battlestar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:49   galactica was which was a totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:50   different show and I did love it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52   thought it was really interesting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:53   they did it but this is a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   more comfortable i think of a resting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   place to have sort of yeah I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59   can experience a solid argument to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01   idea that it's a Trojan horse right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03   this is you know that they started out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05   with the monster of the week stuff to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:06   build it into a mythology show and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   glad they're actually doing that it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:09   know I i think this is why I stick with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:12   so many shows as long as I do because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:14   keep thinking well okay there's some you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16   know there are kids that there's more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:17   going on here that there's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:19   stories to be told here but we just have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:21   to wait to till the show's establish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:23   enough because it's hard to like delve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2483">TS</a>]

00:41:25   right into a mythology show right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:26   know unless you're the adventurous music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:28   go for it but planes will respect that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:31   gotta respect fringe for that first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   season because i was on the edge of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35   what are just being totally disgusted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   with it until that final thing and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:38   like you know the plan that right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40   it's not like they just thought of it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:41   the end of the thing like they spend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   on oir sees an entire season of a show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45   building up to essentially their promise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   they didn't give you the premise until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   the end of the first season and and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:50   hit you with the big hammer of like not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:52   only do we have a really awesome premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54   but here we have this horrible horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:55   event of like stealing your soul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57   and for another place in the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:58   character been with isn't even from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2518">TS</a>]

00:41:59   universe and stuff like that and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01   feels terrible bad it's not played for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   laughs it's serious like that was a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05   payoff after it like a long lead up it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   like and I think they did they did drop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09   just enough like every time they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   tell you a little story observers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:13   stuff in it like I was for me that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:15   i kept watch yes but it there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:16   something interesting still could have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:18   been lame is still coming like yes a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:19   pattern observers ball guys whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21   like you didn't care until the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23   on the game until you realize his son [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:25   died and he stole his son is not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   he's sitting him sitting by the grave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:28   that's the best thing in the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:29   frizzy and like that just like nails you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31   right it's not in the first season was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33   not miss yet this is the first season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35   Allen calling upset to Peter's greywacke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:37   I mean they dropped it pretty heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:39   before that like there are definitely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41   one-out they like her season firm that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:43   they seal the deal here yeah and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   best thing was seeing Walter this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:46   character who is either crazy or zany [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48   just totally break down this it's a wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:50   wait you're not used to seeing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:51   character that you've come to care about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:52   and realizing that that he kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:55   deserves a lot of the insanity that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   got maybe you know I mean like that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:58   a big payoff when X Files used to do was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:01   do the ark episodes at the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03   season and the beginning of the next and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:04   they would just do for bookends 22 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   episodes in two episodes then back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08   Monster the weekend that the theory or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:09   everything thats the Star Trek next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   generation bright red kimono so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:13   just saying it's interesting because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:14   I've seen I've seen one of the monster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16   of the week episodes of fringe and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18   it's very first season I haven't seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:19   anything else and now you guys talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   about it just made me kind of curious to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   go back and never come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   yeah and now I'm everything started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:26   their season guys are with the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28   season is there no you I think you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:31   to i don't know i'm a complete I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:32   completionist usually i would say start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   at the beginning angle yeah because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:35   you know why is going to be some paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:37   all right they're easy to digest to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:40   it's another thing where ya the monster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:42   of the week episode you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:43   gonna like that they go by the numbers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:44   like this is a strange thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   happens like just like long are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   find a dead body in the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:49   somebody's head to the same interaction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51   like every comment about halfway through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53   the first season is one of my friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   who who watches the show maybe tweet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   about something like so i guess i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:58   stop getting attached to all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00   characters IC infringed before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   before this happened yeah and with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04   way my wife put that is don't they watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06   the show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:06   don't they don't go in there don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:07   know that they're on fringe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:10   they're gonna die if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:11   they go in there if you if the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:12   watch the show they would know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   well we've got a little bit more time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:17   o.o before he goes up and watch by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:19   way alternate universe in fridge has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21   this one it's allowing Zeppelin's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   how you know three years of that left 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   probably Cybermen in there too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:26   probably because alternate universes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28   with Zeppelin's there's actually another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   good show at least I i am not a badass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32   battlestar galactica watcher and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34   to preface it with that and I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:35   seen either battlestar galactica which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:37   may make me a horrible syfy without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   original and really awesome we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:41   anything on x-files watcher and a non [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:44   new battlestar galactica watch her on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:45   the syfy television now it is shining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:48   it's really scary time we take all kinds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:49   here John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:50   we're a big family by Errol I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:53   come on the comics com podcast and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:54   have no standards but in any case i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:57   started watching caprica when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:59   premiered in January which is I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:02   watching out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:03   yeah sorry i fell asleep there when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:06   mention Caprica [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:07   ah that's terrible no I mean I i watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:10   it but I do I knew it was a prequel go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:15   ahead and I'll go ahead no no no I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:18   I I knew it was a prequel to battlestar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:19   galactica but i had no idea what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   were two other than I know there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:23   things called silence and that's all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:25   knew going into this and actually first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:27   couple episodes of caprica are slow they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:30   are very very slow but at the same time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:33   oddly intriguing i mean it's very it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   very political show its its political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37   sci fi and it's about robots and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:40   the creation of robots and I Jason's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:43   looking like no no ID but hell no I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   watched the first 45 episode yeah and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:47   i found it kind of fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   intellectually and yet the fairies just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:52   very slow-paced and you know i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54   asking for planes to go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:55   wormholes in the end of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   episode I just I I wasn't quite sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   where they were going or or what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:01   were doing and I'm not sure they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   either and they are so many different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:04   moving pieces I i will say i think them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:08   coming back to it which is is this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:09   episode 10 but theoretically it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:12   supposed to be the second the start of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:13   the second season or seasonally now I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:16   yeah exactly yeah they've named it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:18   mean it was very very slow i watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20   maybe the first six or seven episodes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   one chunk when I was sick one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   like one point but at the side say at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:27   episode like eight or nine it starts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29   pick up and you start kind of getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:30   all of these plots kind of intertwining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:33   and now like with the opening of the set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   this the entire the entire show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:38   really based around the concept of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40   know what if we can bring sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42   soul of a person into the digital world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:44   and work with that like what if that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   be a pseudo afterlife and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:47   whole like religious aspect and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49   religious aspect is starting to take out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51   more of more of a main focus in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:54   second half of the season I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:55   it really piqued my curiosity and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:58   not necessarily my favorite sci-fi show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00   on television because they're still it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:01   has problems but I definitely like I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:04   have it on my list and i'm watching it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:07   regularly and I'm i'm intrigued to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09   where we'll go assuming it lasts longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:10   than the season [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12   yeah I'm not sure I mean it's been on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:14   for a long time already i'm surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:15   that it wasn't canceled already have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:17   bike shop is 20 episodes right they shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:20   the 20 episodes and and I was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   say yeah that they didn't like a fringe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   went through an entire first season but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:26   paid off at the end and it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:27   Africa came and went on break without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:30   paying off anything so I was like well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:31   that's it for that show i guess it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:32   been cancelled i'll never see it again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:33   and they didn't even have time to pay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35   off but now it's back so maybe at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37   end of the 20 it will still pay off on I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:40   I suspect so i think that the ratings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42   have been so lackluster that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:45   decided stretch out the time and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:47   that would give them more time to decide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:48   that they want to bring it back I'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:49   surprised if it comes back just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:51   it seems like it's not really catching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53   on but you never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55   i I just couldn't why I mean I felt so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:58   so angry and badly burned by the end by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:02   the last season about hot glass like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04   just I'm just gonna yeah I'm just yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:07   i'm just depressed super angry and sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09   there's a whole podcast would be done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:10   about that I don't hold grudges though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:11   because i like that the first few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:14   seasons about our collective I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:15   install fond memories of the program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   together just because they screwed up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:18   the end doesn't make me I I the more I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   looked it's one of those shows that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22   looked back and it really ruined a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:23   of the earlier episodes there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:24   romantic episodes and just pretend those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26   are really don't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:27   no but even the second season there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29   still some terrible terrible episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   well everybody's I wanted two bad ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33   it's like the Star Wars prequels just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:34   pretending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:35   Kristen you have a much happier life hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37   I heard the other day that run more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   maybe rebooting wild wild west so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:41   willing to give that a shot because I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:42   like Ron Moore and if you're watching a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   good Ron Moore Show albeit one that also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46   doesn't have an ending curveball and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:47   yeah I intentionally didn't start that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:50   because i heard that it died before it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:51   ended well speaking of of shows that uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:55   that I think are are encouraging yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2935">TS</a>]

00:49:00   I'm gonna throw out stargate universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:01   which I'm so woefully behind on now i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03   like 10 episodes behind on it but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   it's I think it actually gets hampered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:08   by the fact that it's a Stargate show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10   because it's so unlike it really is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:12   the weird stepchild or offspring I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   of Battlestar Galactica and stargate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   because it's much darker Stargate was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   this bright and shiny first five seasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   of stargate i love because they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:23   they're from they're happy friendly go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25   through this and explore new worlds kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   of stuff and then they kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:28   disappeared up there anything I Anderson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:29   that's all we have made anderson i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   ya those first five years and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   kind of like goes in the background in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:34   their government conspiracies and became [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:35   the x-files and it was a disaster so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:38   this this new show is saddled with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:41   history and yet I thought was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:42   good in trying to be different in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:45   the pilot doesn't end up with a sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47   reset where everybody's happy and ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49   to go on adventures that the problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:50   put out the pilot take you know episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:53   after episode i think they finish the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55   pilot not having air or water or food [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:58   and then the first episode they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2998">TS</a>]

00:49:59   to try to find a way to get air and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   next one is trying to find a way to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:02   water and try to get food and a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04   circle and yeah well in in in and uh I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:08   embracing unlikable characters the lead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10   character and stargate universe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:13   robert carlyle character and he's a DJ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   jerk so I i think that show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:18   interesting although some for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:22   reason not gripping enough for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   actually have kept current with it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26   the point where I'm like a half a dozen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   episodes behind now and I like Johnson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   is john scalzi is the is the the science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:33   consultant fight through it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   well your story story controlling yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   and I can sort of feel that too because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   it's its outsized it's not you know kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   of hard sci-fi realism but there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   some character realism and there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45   resistance to sort of the standard kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:49   sci-fi show plot device where you hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:51   the big reset button at the end of every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:53   episode where you get the sense that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:54   this is kind of a meandering story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:57   there's characters who aren't like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3057">TS</a>]

00:50:58   ball and ones who are and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3058">TS</a>]

00:50:59   changing over time and you know I it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:02   not a anything I'd say it's like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:04   grade-a kind of show but I I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   encouraged by because it I I fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:09   expected to hate the pilot and i ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   up watching whatever eight or ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:12   episodes of it and not not feeling bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:15   about it because I thought that was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:17   of drinking you know it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:19   because I think that's what it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:20   comes down to is not so much that we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:23   necessarily get invested in genre shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:26   so much as I think I'll you know for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   most part I think the people who like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:31   sonra chose a tend to cross over pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   well with people who like shows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:34   have those non resetting plots that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:37   a longer build that have characters that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:40   develop and change over time I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   wouldn't like that would make it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:43   standard shows don't write and one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45   the things about genre shows is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:46   because they are not setting a real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:47   universe there's like chance for things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   you haven't seen before that you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:52   don't need to see another cop show or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:53   another even space cops quite honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:56   or space lawyers but of you know i-i-i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:59   wanna see something they're not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:00   that like that you can have a good cop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   shit like the wire for sure can have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   good cop shortly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:05   that's about people develop over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:07   about challenging questions that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:08   you know tries to build something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:11   rather than showing you all 45 minute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:14   movie every week shows you a like rich [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17   story you know series that builds over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:20   time that really uses TV as its medium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:23   and i think that's that's really what a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   lot of people you know I know we're sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   of focused on geek stuff here but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29   think I like that idea of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31   really good television being something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:32   that uses that this medium this serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:35   cereal episodic stories helping to its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:38   fullest and like the wire is interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:41   because it is such a you know cop shell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:43   that's that's pretty well-trod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:45   convention there and by simply being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:47   more true to what real human beings are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:50   like it defies the genre conventions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:53   the cop show right so sci-fi has you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   know even more conventions i find is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   this like a road convention for house is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59   done and when you get a sci-fi show it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   can repel against the combined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:02   she's a regular TV it can also repel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   against the conventions of sci-fi and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:05   sometimes just the the sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07   conventions repel against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:08   conventions of regular TV so when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10   have something with people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:11   acting what you think like real people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:13   would act like and define multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:15   conventions at the same time it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:16   incredibly interesting and will enable I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18   think that appeals to get the most they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:20   want to see something they haven't seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:21   before and that's a great tool to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23   sometimes the sci-fi conventions go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25   right they leave the convention center [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27   and they attack the Renaissance Faire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:28   that's on the other side of the street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:29   to that's a lady's in 20 states as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:34   heroes of futurama I it's it's it's time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:37   yeah alright uh I'm sorry sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:40   conventions like I i was picturing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   something else there for a second but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:43   think you're right i and and i like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45   when I CSI show like I said with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:48   stargate universe thing please me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:49   most was that they didn't take the easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   way out with this predicament yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   thought it would be Gilligan's Island [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:54   right you know you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:56   well we've got the shipwreck episode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3236">TS</a>]

00:53:57   then we will place them in a state where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3237">TS</a>]

00:54:00   I know what you're trying to do there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:02   and then we place them in a state where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:04   it'll just be repeatable and we'll go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:05   that way forever and that's not what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:06   they did not like a hot this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08   interesting i will watch more of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:09   now because it's absurd my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:12   expectations of what otherwise it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:15   becomes lost in space or starting writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:17   or manipulation thank you yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19   yeah exactly starter voice is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21   example which I know this is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:22   different and yet at the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:23   episode everybody had their the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   the ship was fine and everybody had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:26   their clean uniforms and all the rebels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:29   had joined up with the crew and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:32   stayed like that essentially for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:33   entire run of the show which and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   why i stopped watching very out exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:38   alright well I think we've done enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:41   damage for one podcast i hope that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:44   given you some ideas of things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46   could watch out there dear list or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:47   we're not watch as the case may be I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   think we've done that done that here on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:52   the podcast to hopefully serenity will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54   go and and watch some fringe now i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:56   add it to my ever-growing list of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:58   television that I need to catch up on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3298">TS</a>]

00:54:59   all right that's fair enough that's fair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01   enough those dvds are available for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:04   many of these alright so that's it for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:07   now thanks to everybody out there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09   listening to the incomparable podcast on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:11   Jason snail and i would like to thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3311">TS</a>]

00:55:13   the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:13   my fellow members of the podcast ren [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:16   serenity called well thank you very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:17   hanky Jason dan more'n textures and John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:21   siracusa thank you again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:24   alright until next time thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26   listening goodbye law-and-order Atlantis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:30   coming this spring to NBC visit us at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:35   www.piofl.com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:38   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYHMvMY/3338">TS</a>]