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00:00:00   the incomparable podcast number 19 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/0">TS</a>]

00:00:09   january to ntlm if the new year and time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/9">TS</a>]

00:00:15   for a new edition of the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/15">TS</a>]

00:00:16   podcast welcome everybody I'm Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/16">TS</a>]

00:00:19   smell your host with me today i have two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/19">TS</a>]

00:00:21   guests for our exciting incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/21">TS</a>]

00:00:24   book club yes we've managed to kill just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/24">TS</a>]

00:00:26   about everyone else but to remain alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/26">TS</a>]

00:00:29   and they enter our Thunderdome here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/29">TS</a>]

00:00:32   today from the Pacific Northwest Glenn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/32">TS</a>]

00:00:35   fleischmann thank you for reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/35">TS</a>]

00:00:37   book you are very welcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/37">TS</a>]

00:00:40   somebody had to do it and from the east [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/40">TS</a>]

00:00:42   coast from Philadelphia lonely no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/42">TS</a>]

00:00:45   Scott McNulty thank you for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47   literate Scotty you know I think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/47">TS</a>]

00:00:50   what happens to all book clubs isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/50">TS</a>]

00:00:52   slowly people just stopped coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/52">TS</a>]

00:00:54   it's oh you mean the next one will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/54">TS</a>]

00:00:55   Jason talking to himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/55">TS</a>]

00:00:57   yes I either that or it'll be me talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/57">TS</a>]

00:00:59   to my digitized version of dan more'n [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/59">TS</a>]

00:01:02   likely back and debate things with it at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/62">TS</a>]

00:01:06   my leisure so are our topic today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08   primary topic first topic is a the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/68">TS</a>]

00:01:13   book selection which is how to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   safely in a science fictional universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/75">TS</a>]

00:01:18   which is by Charles you believe Charles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/78">TS</a>]

00:01:21   you that that is correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23   alright uh and this is a very peculiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/83">TS</a>]

00:01:26   book blend you want to kind of step us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/86">TS</a>]

00:01:30   through kind of the overview of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/90">TS</a>]

00:01:31   this what this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/91">TS</a>]

00:01:35   I'm going to give it a try it some I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37   think it's you know I think it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   interesting book because it's it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/99">TS</a>]

00:01:42   feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/102">TS</a>]

00:01:43   I'll give me like the big picture as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/103">TS</a>]

00:01:44   feel of some of that new science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/104">TS</a>]

00:01:47   stuff from like the nineteen sixties and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/107">TS</a>]

00:01:48   seventies when everyone was tired of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/108">TS</a>]

00:01:50   Golden Age and then the Silver Age it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/110">TS</a>]

00:01:52   also have exploded into Harlan Ellison [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/112">TS</a>]

00:01:55   and things that were almost unreadable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/115">TS</a>]

00:01:56   but they were different right so there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58   a little bit of a picture of this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00   is not unreadable but it's it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/120">TS</a>]

00:02:03   difficult reading so it's I come to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/123">TS</a>]

00:02:05   plot it's like all right well I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/125">TS</a>]

00:02:06   this is what happened you know it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   that I got a ray gun and charged across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/128">TS</a>]

00:02:11   the universe and killed this blog's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/131">TS</a>]

00:02:13   one girl you know which i have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/133">TS</a>]

00:02:16   reading books like that recently i'm in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/136">TS</a>]

00:02:18   this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/138">TS</a>]

00:02:18   let's say they think almost anything i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/138">TS</a>]

00:02:20   say my trigger the spoiler horn but i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/140">TS</a>]

00:02:22   start slow so it appears to be there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/142">TS</a>]

00:02:24   a gentleman who is a time machine repair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/144">TS</a>]

00:02:29   prepare right i mean i think we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/149">TS</a>]

00:02:31   agree on that we can and his name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/151">TS</a>]

00:02:34   happens to be Charles you who is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/154">TS</a>]

00:02:36   author of the book right and he seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/156">TS</a>]

00:02:39   live in a universe that is a is enter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41   twinkled and entwined with our own in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/161">TS</a>]

00:02:44   the science fictional universe is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/164">TS</a>]

00:02:46   construct within the book and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/166">TS</a>]

00:02:49   something to which he possesses some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/169">TS</a>]

00:02:52   power of movement like ever while you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/172">TS</a>]

00:02:54   think this is thoroughly abstract it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/174">TS</a>]

00:02:56   sounds like he's been in a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/176">TS</a>]

00:02:58   stasis for 10 or more years in which he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/178">TS</a>]

00:03:01   visits different locations in different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/181">TS</a>]

00:03:03   adjacent universes and repairs people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05   problems where they people go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/185">TS</a>]

00:03:08   visit events in the past and they make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/188">TS</a>]

00:03:09   changes that they are outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/189">TS</a>]

00:03:11   operational parameters it's very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13   maytag salesperson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/193">TS</a>]

00:03:14   oh you know you shouldn't put the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16   know the ACI card and you only put the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/196">TS</a>]

00:03:18   ati card in that always causes a blowout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20   we really need that you should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/200">TS</a>]

00:03:21   gotten the upgrade and I can fix it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/201">TS</a>]

00:03:24   it's going to cost $15 so we kind of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/204">TS</a>]

00:03:26   quitting at times you know it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/206">TS</a>]

00:03:28   very much like he's like any repairman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   and then it's then it keeps blasting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/210">TS</a>]

00:03:33   metaphysical aspects and then there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/213">TS</a>]

00:03:35   regular citations from a book that isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/215">TS</a>]

00:03:37   that called how to live safely in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   science fictional universe inside the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   book and over time we come to realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/221">TS</a>]

00:03:43   that his father fictional Charles use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/223">TS</a>]

00:03:47   father has invented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49   time machines sort of and that Charles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/229">TS</a>]

00:03:52   you you has people he visits including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/232">TS</a>]

00:03:54   his mother who is stuck in a time loop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/234">TS</a>]

00:03:57   he created for her but she repeats a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59   pleasant event over and over again i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   don't know if i would say stuck she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/241">TS</a>]

00:04:02   evil Heimlich she's sort of been placed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/242">TS</a>]

00:04:04   in a time loop so that it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/244">TS</a>]

00:04:07   easier on her or something exactly she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/247">TS</a>]

00:04:10   has some awareness of it and he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/250">TS</a>]

00:04:11   dog who doesn't exist the dog was sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/251">TS</a>]

00:04:14   of a fictional construct that was being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/254">TS</a>]

00:04:16   thrown out and he felt bad for us is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/256">TS</a>]

00:04:19   notion of a dog that is not quite a dog [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/259">TS</a>]

00:04:22   and he has a onboard artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   intelligence system that is self-aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   but kind of sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/266">TS</a>]

00:04:27   Tammy she sleeps a lot and his boss is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/267">TS</a>]

00:04:30   computer program it doesn't realize at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/270">TS</a>]

00:04:32   least for a while these computer program [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/272">TS</a>]

00:04:33   yes so it you know some of these are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/273">TS</a>]

00:04:35   very nominal science-fiction elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/275">TS</a>]

00:04:36   these are things that every know a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/276">TS</a>]

00:04:38   of science fiction all these concepts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/278">TS</a>]

00:04:39   come to eat together but keeps breaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/279">TS</a>]

00:04:41   down is it as you read the book you keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/281">TS</a>]

00:04:44   sort of peeling down through allegory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/284">TS</a>]

00:04:46   you're like oh it's the story of a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/286">TS</a>]

00:04:47   who's 30-something his life has been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/287">TS</a>]

00:04:50   mess and he's writing about in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/290">TS</a>]

00:04:53   heavily allegorical way and is troubled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/293">TS</a>]

00:04:55   relations between his parents his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/295">TS</a>]

00:04:56   parents getting divorced and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   childhood in which his father was never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/298">TS</a>]

00:05:00   please and can never achieve what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/300">TS</a>]

00:05:01   want to or is this like Pierre you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/301">TS</a>]

00:05:03   like we talked about with the city in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/303">TS</a>]

00:05:05   the city your perspective keeps changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07   sometimes with every page as to whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09   this is you know a novel of personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/309">TS</a>]

00:05:10   self exploration thinly-veiled with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/310">TS</a>]

00:05:13   science-fiction elements or a science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   fiction novel with oddly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/315">TS</a>]

00:05:16   autobiographical potentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   autobiographical elements inserted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   inside of it so what do you think that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   do okay jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   yeah i think i think so and I think in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/324">TS</a>]

00:05:27   fact it's not even an either/or i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29   that in some ways that's exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31   the book is it's an autobiography with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/331">TS</a>]

00:05:34   sort of a filter run on that to turn it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/334">TS</a>]

00:05:36   into a science fiction novel and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/336">TS</a>]

00:05:39   you know and then everybody has point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/339">TS</a>]

00:05:40   where introduces specific elements that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/340">TS</a>]

00:05:43   are associated with science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/343">TS</a>]

00:05:44   books and also i mean the title [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/344">TS</a>]

00:05:48   science-fictional as opposed to science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/348">TS</a>]

00:05:49   fiction it's you know that is a queue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/349">TS</a>]

00:05:52   there but their element where inserts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54   things like you know he goes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/354">TS</a>]

00:05:56   apparently goes back in time and shoots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/356">TS</a>]

00:05:57   himself or there are paradoxes that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/357">TS</a>]

00:06:00   classic science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   time travel paradoxes that introduces [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/362">TS</a>]

00:06:04   but then dispenses with or incorporate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   sin completely in insane ways that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/366">TS</a>]

00:06:09   again like sometimes i feel like i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11   reading philosophy when I'm reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/371">TS</a>]

00:06:12   sometimes it's like a you know had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/372">TS</a>]

00:06:15   dense novel that's designed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/375">TS</a>]

00:06:19   interpreted by literary critics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/379">TS</a>]

00:06:22   sometimes it's like a rousing good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/382">TS</a>]

00:06:23   sci-fi story it is sort of got two parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/383">TS</a>]

00:06:26   right it's got this introductory part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/386">TS</a>]

00:06:27   where you meet this you meet this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   and he he's a time machine repairman he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31   lives out of time he sort of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/391">TS</a>]

00:06:32   doesn't want to access his actual life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/392">TS</a>]

00:06:34   so he he just doesn't return home and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/394">TS</a>]

00:06:39   and he's fixing the time machines and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41   then there's that scene coursing in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43   middle of the book where he is walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/403">TS</a>]

00:06:46   to his time machine and the door opens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/406">TS</a>]

00:06:48   and he gets out of it and he sees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/408">TS</a>]

00:06:51   himself and shoots himself and then gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/411">TS</a>]

00:06:54   in the time machine and leaves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56   realizes he's just sort of loop himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58   and that's where the book gets seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00   weird and it turns out that he's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/420">TS</a>]

00:07:02   writing he needs to read a book called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/422">TS</a>]

00:07:05   how to live safely of a science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/425">TS</a>]

00:07:06   fictional universe which he himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08   wrote in the time loop so he writes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/428">TS</a>]

00:07:11   as he reads it and then we can get all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/431">TS</a>]

00:07:15   kind of goes crazy and then he ends up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/435">TS</a>]

00:07:18   trying to find his father whose live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/438">TS</a>]

00:07:19   living in a a an imaginary kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/439">TS</a>]

00:07:24   parallel universe that he's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   track him down and as a science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/446">TS</a>]

00:07:30   story that's the point where i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/450">TS</a>]

00:07:31   started to think what the heck am I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/451">TS</a>]

00:07:33   reading here where it got seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/453">TS</a>]

00:07:36   weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/456">TS</a>]

00:07:37   although I you know I understand it kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/457">TS</a>]

00:07:39   of on that allegorical level but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/459">TS</a>]

00:07:41   where that really weird after he shoots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/461">TS</a>]

00:07:42   himself and and then he's playing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/462">TS</a>]

00:07:45   the cards right he's like you you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   a time loop you you know you're not just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/467">TS</a>]

00:07:48   kill your grandfather you're killing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/468">TS</a>]

00:07:49   yourself you've got a book that's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   handed to you that you yourself rat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   wrote so how do you write it which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55   your right as you read it it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   and that's where it goes it's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   right yeah he's an observer his own past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/479">TS</a>]

00:08:02   with an alternate realities where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04   sees like his mother in a place that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06   doesn't know the woman was the whole the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08   woman he never married who is almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10   instantiated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   we'll never fell in love with it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/492">TS</a>]

00:08:13   a real person sort of as a construct it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/493">TS</a>]

00:08:16   anything that's a construct in his book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   being can become a real thing that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20   can interact with on everything that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22   could have been possible is it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/502">TS</a>]

00:08:25   theoretically does exist everywhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27   I think that's part of it too is that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29   you're writing a biography even you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/509">TS</a>]

00:08:32   you wonder what might have been and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/512">TS</a>]

00:08:33   science fictional universe everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/513">TS</a>]

00:08:34   that might have been it did happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/514">TS</a>]

00:08:37   somewhere in a in another universe and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/517">TS</a>]

00:08:40   think that's sort of what he's getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/522">TS</a>]

00:08:42   Scott what did you think of this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/522">TS</a>]

00:08:45   ah I thought it was interesting i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/525">TS</a>]

00:08:51   quite sure at I know everyone i read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/531">TS</a>]

00:08:54   book and I think to myself well often i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/534">TS</a>]

00:08:57   think what i'm reading which is good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   this is the book which i think is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/539">TS</a>]

00:09:02   main character insane so does anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/542">TS</a>]

00:09:05   it is looking actually happened or is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/545">TS</a>]

00:09:08   this all just an insane dream that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/548">TS</a>]

00:09:11   character is having and I don't know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/551">TS</a>]

00:09:14   answer to that after reading the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/554">TS</a>]

00:09:15   whether or not any of these things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/555">TS</a>]

00:09:17   know within the fictional universe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   the book inhabits if these events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/559">TS</a>]

00:09:22   actually happened or if this person is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24   just insane because you know he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/564">TS</a>]

00:09:26   dog that doesn't exist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/566">TS</a>]

00:09:27   he his father apparently invent a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/567">TS</a>]

00:09:30   machine in their garage but there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/570">TS</a>]

00:09:33   real proof that it worked and then we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35   going to show it to someone like a third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37   party it didn't work and then all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/577">TS</a>]

00:09:39   sudden it did work in the the bad some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/579">TS</a>]

00:09:43   other corporations stole his idea so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/583">TS</a>]

00:09:46   don't know maybe I'm crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   oh it's it's a strange it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/588">TS</a>]

00:09:52   strange book and I wouldn't i wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/592">TS</a>]

00:09:55   say that i liked it actually I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/595">TS</a>]

00:09:58   it was I thought it was interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/598">TS</a>]

00:09:59   it was very interesting to see him the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/599">TS</a>]

00:10:02   author make these I just crazy decisions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/602">TS</a>]

00:10:07   to just do i'm going to put it all out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/607">TS</a>]

00:10:08   there i'm going to lay out every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10   science-fictional element you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/610">TS</a>]

00:10:11   think of and I appreciated as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/611">TS</a>]

00:10:14   essentially a an exploration of his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/614">TS</a>]

00:10:17   life of the author's life and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19   relationship with his parents and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/619">TS</a>]

00:10:22   know I thought it was interesting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/622">TS</a>]

00:10:23   that level but i honestly cannot say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/623">TS</a>]

00:10:25   that i enjoyed reading and I I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/625">TS</a>]

00:10:27   it was yeah weird and you know a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/627">TS</a>]

00:10:30   bit off-putting and i'm not quite sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   we ever really get a good grip on who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/632">TS</a>]

00:10:35   the who the narrator is I feel in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/635">TS</a>]

00:10:38   ways that i had a UH you know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/638">TS</a>]

00:10:40   hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/640">TS</a>]

00:10:41   a lot of the characters there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/641">TS</a>]

00:10:42   almost like they're sort of shadow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/642">TS</a>]

00:10:44   figures where you know their present but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/644">TS</a>]

00:10:46   I'm not really quite sure who they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/646">TS</a>]

00:10:47   and that goes for the narrator but also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/647">TS</a>]

00:10:49   goes for the mother and the father too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51   yeah I wouldn't say exactly sort of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/651">TS</a>]

00:10:54   you know that there's a joke and laurie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/654">TS</a>]

00:10:55   anderson album about like welcome to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/655">TS</a>]

00:10:57   distant difficult listening our pleas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/657">TS</a>]

00:11:00   button your top button on your shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   sit back and you know bolt upright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04   uncomfortable chair and prepared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06   listen to some difficult music and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/666">TS</a>]

00:11:09   always like that's that's what it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/669">TS</a>]

00:11:10   about it like this is a hard book to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/672">TS</a>]

00:11:13   is it worth it I'm still not sure after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/673">TS</a>]

00:11:15   you finish that was disappointed by how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/675">TS</a>]

00:11:18   conventionally the book was brought to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20   conclusion i get close inclusion I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22   not exactly something is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/682">TS</a>]

00:11:24   conventional I just thought it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/684">TS</a>]

00:11:25   didn't fulfill its promise of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27   strange it was by how it ended but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/687">TS</a>]

00:11:31   was it was an attempt to write something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   that was not easy to read and I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/693">TS</a>]

00:11:36   really in before structurally in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/696">TS</a>]

00:11:37   Subway's it is i mean it he like i said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/697">TS</a>]

00:11:41   before he pulled out all the stops all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43   the tricks right so he's got the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   this book is quoting itself it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/705">TS</a>]

00:11:48   but this book is also quoting from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50   book in the universe and then that book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52   is being written in the story and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54   it's being read and written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/714">TS</a>]

00:11:55   simultaneously in the story so it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57   inside a circle within a circle within a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59   circle with a circle which you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   hi it's a high-wire act i I'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04   it really works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/724">TS</a>]

00:12:05   I was thinking actually if I wasn't a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/725">TS</a>]

00:12:08   college literature class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/728">TS</a>]

00:12:12   yeah we got we gotta told go out and buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/732">TS</a>]

00:12:15   any you know book published in the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   five years and write a story to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19   out write an essay analyzing it from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   literature class analysis kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23   perspective let's take it apart and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25   consider what the author is doing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/745">TS</a>]

00:12:26   would pick a book like this because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/746">TS</a>]

00:12:29   does like we've been talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/749">TS</a>]

00:12:30   does have all these like layers of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/750">TS</a>]

00:12:32   does it mean and what's the technique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/752">TS</a>]

00:12:33   and and and on that level it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/753">TS</a>]

00:12:36   interesting is it but that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/756">TS</a>]

00:12:39   a level of you know entertainment value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41   i guess i would say so it's so much as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/761">TS</a>]

00:12:44   it is you know it interesting to defect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/764">TS</a>]

00:12:47   to do as an autopsy really you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/767">TS</a>]

00:12:51   this reminds me most closely of its some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/771">TS</a>]

00:12:52   level as Nicholson Baker's mezzanine if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/772">TS</a>]

00:12:55   either of you have read that book i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   not I have not either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/777">TS</a>]

00:12:58   it is an interesting piece of writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00   with more out of every web Scott no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/780">TS</a>]

00:13:01   bearing on comparables on the Capitals I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/781">TS</a>]

00:13:04   don't think wasn't comfortable on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   mezzanine is Nicholson Baker think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08   one of his first books it's um is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/788">TS</a>]

00:13:10   nonfiction one could argue with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/790">TS</a>]

00:13:13   level it is the entire set of thoughts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/793">TS</a>]

00:13:16   that goes through his head ostensibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18   from the top of an escalator to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20   bottom and occupies a 250 pages and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/800">TS</a>]

00:13:23   is you read it and it is absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/803">TS</a>]

00:13:24   understandable as a stream of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26   consciousness of all the things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28   sort of minut switches and how we you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/808">TS</a>]

00:13:32   know cogitate while we are ostensibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/812">TS</a>]

00:13:33   doing one activity or just even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/813">TS</a>]

00:13:35   daydreaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/815">TS</a>]

00:13:36   it's a beautiful thing and it's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   the greatest things written i actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   already i would argue because it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   it's unique and it is is so beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/822">TS</a>]

00:13:45   its way so there's there are some things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/825">TS</a>]

00:13:46   in common i think between that where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48   this is incredibly intense self-analysis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/828">TS</a>]

00:13:51   that's presented in many many different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53   allegorical and biographical ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/833">TS</a>]

00:13:58   sounds awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/838">TS</a>]

00:13:59   yeah it's not fun for science but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/839">TS</a>]

00:14:02   we're doing you see no this isn't i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   bring a metal argument since we're doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   everything is collapsing and expanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/846">TS</a>]

00:14:07   above us in this book you know she the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/847">TS</a>]

00:14:09   in the this podcast I mean geeky things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/849">TS</a>]

00:14:12   Dukey things can they not be hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/852">TS</a>]

00:14:15   read I'm gonna need to be good but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/855">TS</a>]

00:14:16   cannot be hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/856">TS</a>]

00:14:17   well they can but i think it can be hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   i actually liked this book i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/859">TS</a>]

00:14:21   would recommend it but I also you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/861">TS</a>]

00:14:24   went to I was an English major so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   spent a lot of time thinking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28   stuff and my area of interest when I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/868">TS</a>]

00:14:31   you know have breeding for criticizing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/871">TS</a>]

00:14:34   things was postmodern fiction and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/874">TS</a>]

00:14:37   is all the the quintessential kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   postmodern thing whenever you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/879">TS</a>]

00:14:40   whenever an author is a main character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/880">TS</a>]

00:14:43   of their own book i'm interested i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45   don't--that's haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47   that is an understanding and a book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/887">TS</a>]

00:14:50   written in the book and read and written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52   inside is how many have never met levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54   of Medicaid you get here it's craziness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56   and it reminds me of another author uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/896">TS</a>]

00:14:59   Don Pardo may I don't know if anyone has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/899">TS</a>]

00:15:02   told ya Donnell Barthelemy yes yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/902">TS</a>]

00:15:04   love him short stories a lot of we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/904">TS</a>]

00:15:06   here as well I think he's dead now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/906">TS</a>]

00:15:08   may be alive if he's not dead is between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/908">TS</a>]

00:15:11   these two living brothers also extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/911">TS</a>]

00:15:12   good writers yes I actually don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/912">TS</a>]

00:15:14   his the one brothers are gamblers and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/914">TS</a>]

00:15:16   he's that's about gambling yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/916">TS</a>]

00:15:18   understand i don't really like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/918">TS</a>]

00:15:19   right by the way his his short stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   are very odd and very entertaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/921">TS</a>]

00:15:26   he had one short story about a woman who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/926">TS</a>]

00:15:27   gave birth to a giant Ruby and another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/927">TS</a>]

00:15:31   one about a church built a town that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   only churches so that kind of thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/933">TS</a>]

00:15:36   so it really reminded me of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/936">TS</a>]

00:15:38   that's good that is that weirdness that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/938">TS</a>]

00:15:40   the writer sits down and writes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/940">TS</a>]

00:15:42   something that is challenging an insane [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/942">TS</a>]

00:15:45   and they just go with it they don't back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/945">TS</a>]

00:15:47   off you didn't write this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/947">TS</a>]

00:15:48   Charles you didn't write this up i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/948">TS</a>]

00:15:50   know this little out there maybe I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/950">TS</a>]

00:15:51   should dumb it down and make it feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53   more like conventional stuff because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/953">TS</a>]

00:15:55   I'll some more copies he put something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   really hard and strange and personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/957">TS</a>]

00:16:00   yeah I don't know if it was successful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/960">TS</a>]

00:16:02   but I enjoyed it i don't know I a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04   place and I don't think it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/964">TS</a>]

00:16:05   satisfying hunger but I did like it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/965">TS</a>]

00:16:09   gonna read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/969">TS</a>]

00:16:10   yeah i mean i-i i bring this up on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12   podcast a lot but I sort of think there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/972">TS</a>]

00:16:14   are a couple different ways you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/974">TS</a>]

00:16:15   appreciate something and sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   you'll get one of the other sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/977">TS</a>]

00:16:18   you get both sometimes you'll get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/978">TS</a>]

00:16:19   neither and i got on one level for me I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/979">TS</a>]

00:16:22   appreciate the the the craftsmanship of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/982">TS</a>]

00:16:26   the work and how its put together and on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/986">TS</a>]

00:16:28   that level i really appreciate this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/988">TS</a>]

00:16:29   because i thought was very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/989">TS</a>]

00:16:30   what he chose to do with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   the other level is sort of maybe you'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34   say it's a little more emotional or it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/994">TS</a>]

00:16:35   just you know I am i enjoying it as a as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38   a tale as a an entertainment experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/998">TS</a>]

00:16:42   and that level i don't i don't think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:43   would say work for me but I'm not on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:46   first level it did and and to your point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:48   Glenn I do think that science fiction or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:52   any other genre it doesn't have to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:53   hard but it it could be hard and if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:56   if a work is difficult to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:58   to parse that can be a it can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:02   engaging it could be interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04   it can be frustrating and sometimes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:06   think those things work and sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:07   they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:08   I'm not quite sure what I feel about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:09   this i mean this this was on one level I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:13   wouldn't say this book is challenging i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15   didn't find it hard to read it right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   mean it is because it's using these kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19   of sci-fi tropes iíve i found it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:22   readable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24   i I just I just I guess found a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   bit off-putting and all i could see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   he was doing in his craftsmanship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30   I wasn't sure at the end of it that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:32   you know I really felt connected enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:35   to it to say I I you know enjoyed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:38   ride I more appreciated the work that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:40   went into it then I enjoyed the ride I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42   guess but it's not it's not very subtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:43   book he isn't trying to hide his ground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:46   it is all right there is like look at me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48   I'm a writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:49   well anyways that's that I mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:52   the whole book is look at me right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:54   mean it's me i'm a writer this is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:55   me or is it i want to i want to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1075">TS</a>]

00:18:00   very short passage that is that stuck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:02   struck me as a writer and you guys will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:03   appreciate this as well and it's clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   as a writer this is the fantasy of every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   writer is this is a section is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   location 1282 in the kindle edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:12   which is not IM 1282 after the card hole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:16   12 babies are very good talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   the tow the textual object analysis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20   device that is interacts with him as he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:23   is writing the book that he is reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:24   and the TM 31 is his time machine model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:27   31 that his father apparently prototypes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:29   he says he's talking about reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:31   book he says in essence my reading is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33   creative act the product of which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35   being captured by the toad i'm typing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:37   even though strictly speaking I'm using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1117">TS</a>]

00:18:39   the TM 30 ones cognitive visual motor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   sound active is activated recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:44   module which operates as you might guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:45   by simultaneously tracking output from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:48   the users neural activity voice finger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   movements retinol movements and facial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:51   muscle contractions part keyboard part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   microphone part optical scan and part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55   brain scan when I want to type i raise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:57   my hands up in front of the palms down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   in a position approximate IP typing in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:02   virtual qwerty layout materializes in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:03   front of me and it goes on in that vein [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:05   that you can see the writer who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:07   probably having horrible problems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:09   writing thinking of all the ways in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   which devices could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:12   he invented that would make the process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   of writing easier by allowing all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16   modalities that you know tap into your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:19   brain your intentions and even your you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   know subconscious basically i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:24   and it comes out over here although i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   not sure exactly what I'm thinking so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   don't know what's going to come out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:29   that reminds me a little of philip k [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:30   dick the man in the high castle which he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:33   wrote i believe that this is to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35   thing is verified is true by cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:37   casting eaching all the decisions he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:40   made worth reaching the novel is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   crazy and viewers all over the place and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44   in the novel in the novel it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:47   understood that the universe doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:49   exist in which the characters live they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:50   discovered this that it's a fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52   parallel universe in which decisions are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54   being made de qing i'm looking at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:58   highlights on my candle actually for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00   this book and and here's here's the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:03   that I i highlighted that I think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   interesting this is from 26 27 and other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:08   excellent location i love 260 uh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:11   inner monologue that running story I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   been telling myself ever since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:14   moment I learned to talk since before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16   that even since I learned to think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:17   story i began to tell while still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   diapers in the crib the babbling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:20   commentary sometimes audible sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   not that accelerated into childhood and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24   then beyond became a tortured and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:25   anguish story in puberty this decade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:28   spanning confabulation that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:29   continued up until today up until this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:31   very moment this monologue of my life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1231">TS</a>]

00:20:33   that will keep running and running and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:34   running until it gets cut off abruptly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:35   at the moment of my death and i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:38   you know that was really interesting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   also again wheels within wheels you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   it's a story about telling the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:44   that it's about which isn't over yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:47   until it until it ends except that he he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:49   ends it and then continues because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   shoots himself and didn't notice that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:56   the end the book ends with a picture of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:57   the book's cover an additional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59   information that appears to be the start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:01   of the book just to make that all you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03   know sure we get there were some i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:07   say it's aight aight this is we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:09   talking about this and it makes it sound [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:10   like this is a really you know kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   downer of a book and it's not there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14   actually a lot of funny stuff in it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:16   talks about playing games as a kid and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:19   how they would play star wars and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:23   there's a hilarious part where he says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:25   first first dibs get on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:26   solo everyone knows that you don't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   to say it if you are first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:29   you are Han Solo period which is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:33   awesome so there's a lot of funny stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   in here to about this guy some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37   hitchhikers guide stuff too i mean not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39   some of it i think is no modulation some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:41   of its just you know intentional but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   like you know instead of having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:44   paranoid android he has a depressed hey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:47   I who is pretty funny and and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   evolves over time and develops more of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:51   personality as a distinct entity you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:54   know not just sort of a plot device by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:56   the end of the book kind of a love story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:57   really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:58   yeah he's in love with his AI know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1318">TS</a>]

00:21:59   typical store typically sci-fi story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:02   love with an artificial construct that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:03   right yeah we meet say I if it's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:06   typical the other yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08   the other item I i highlighted I i quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:11   from location 839 of course like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:14   like a a sermon right like John book 3 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:18   chapter 12 snow its location 839 is but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:22   I love this because just as use of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24   language he says I stand there for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:25   while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:26   shivering stuck trapped free and at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:31   moment where he he he's because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:34   been trapped in this time machine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:37   then all of a sudden he's living in real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   time and he has to walk around and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:41   got like a whole night and he's staying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:42   at his apartment where the guy at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:45   front desk keep seeing him come in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47   day at but that over the last week he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   aged 10 years because we only spend the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:52   night there occasionally and any street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54   and he's he's trapped now because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:57   in time and so even though he's free his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1377">TS</a>]

00:23:00   freedom is a prison to him which is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:03   mean to go back to the point of busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:05   crazy he having there is that aspect of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:08   it which is you know wow this is a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   who does not want to live his life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12   does not want time it in the world to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:16   move he just doesn't even want to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:17   the world and it's unclear whether he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:20   succeeds our door but it's awful it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:24   uplifting story really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26   sorry man transcending himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:28   transcending himself facing suicide if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:31   you shoot yourself in a time loop that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:34   is a good question or is it murder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:37   there's a there's a sci-fi story i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   cannot recall the name of which is my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:40   theme for today I can't call the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   a sci-fi story in which kids are allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:46   to visit the future like they take high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48   school kids on a trip into their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50   future bodies in a way that they may not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:53   remember entirely but they can see where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55   they go and it's a cut it's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   ridiculous but there's a bit where this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:00   very nerdy kid and the high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:02   beauty wind up like they're married and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04   she can't believe this in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:05   they would be possibly be married you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:07   know in their fifties or sixties and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:09   accepts it and they spend their life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:11   together and understand what's going you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:12   know they have this whatever week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:13   together in the future and on the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15   back like she somehow managed to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:17   hold of a gun and she shoots him as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:19   are pulled back into the past and kills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21   him and destroys our own future like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:25   murder-suicide time travel pretty great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27   little plot story not so good that plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:30   element excellent murder she will write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:33   with the you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:36   that reminds me of something my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:38   always says about christmas christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:40   movies and and and TV shows where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:43   they're always trying to save Christmas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:44   because it turns out the christmas is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:46   just this close to being a radically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:49   forever if one thing doesn't happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:52   save it and that Dad strikes me as very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   similar which is you know the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:55   future one little thing and the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:58   future is ruined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   oh I'm sorry I just stepped on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:01   butterfly should be in this part of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:04   podcast never existed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:05   you can't because I can be over it never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:08   began i'll say that's one of the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:10   disturbing thing about the crisis series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:12   of DC Comics many many DC Comics a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:15   of crisis let me tell you quickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:16   Infinite Crisis placing multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:19   multiverse Christ standing Rice's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:21   problem is in crisis if they have many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:23   many crises but one of his a disturbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   most like metaphysically about those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27   books was the sort of retro acting like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29   none of these worlds ever existed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31   despite the complex you might have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:32   take place in them it like the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:34   not only are you dead but you never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:37   existed and such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:38   horrible concept that I think science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   fiction can express an existential like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:43   a double existential dread that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:46   impossible to to present in on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48   speculative fiction because then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:51   cannot speculate that we never existed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:52   in you know a traditional narrative and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:55   what does that say about the people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:57   read science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:58   that's what I want to know where all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1558">TS</a>]

00:25:59   depressed again I'm not every science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:03   because it makes me happy smiley it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:07   happy happy thing I I yeah it's a it's i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:12   don't know i don't even know what I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:13   saying now i will stand more over here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15   he would agree with you he'd make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:18   alright good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:21   he would know it's it's you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:24   whole idea of the you've never even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:27   existed in and all that man that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   I love about science fiction is that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   can add to talk about Charles use book I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:34   mean he's using the science fictional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   concepts to talk about his own life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38   that's one of the things I love about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40   science fiction is that you can tell a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:41   story and make it interesting and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:45   and make an argument even in a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:48   you wouldn't necessarily do in something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:51   that was mainstream by by changing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53   parameters you are able to explore the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:57   concept more than you would if you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:58   burdened by today's reality and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00   goes back to you know Star Trek telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   you know that parables were Frank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   Gorshin is you know half black and half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   white and can't we all just get along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   and whom that might have some bearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   and modern sixties culture but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:14   it's true that one of the things I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:15   about size that you can explore these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:18   concepts that might be much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:19   difficult to explore if you are grounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:22   in reality by taking it out of reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   and making it completely ridiculous but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26   and sci-fi is the best sci-fi i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:29   often not about the future but about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:30   president's right so frightened think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:33   about that right why you could argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35   that yeah that that any good size is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   really about when it was written and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:40   perceptions of the future and where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:41   things are going at the time it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:43   written i'm going to write a kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45   science fiction looks backwards so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:46   it's it's the year 2010 and mainframe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:49   computers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:50   with giant vacuum tubes are still in use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52   and that's always been your guests are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   all things that ya know steampunk that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   steampunk positive we're still living in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   1800 we have the technology is there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:01   retro retro steampunk in which it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03   21st century but we're using steampunk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   technology i have wow I've outstripped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:08   you I've stripped from here you blow my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:11   you blew my vacuum too so so let's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:15   the in the in the future podcast will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17   radio program thousand that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:21   awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:22   let's talk about time travel a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:23   bit that wewe with Charles you obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:26   we have a story that's all about time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:29   I'm wondering though this is such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:32   common concept in sci-fi writing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:36   there's so many things to choose from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   i'm wondering if you guys have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   particular instances of of time-travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   novels that you've particularly liked or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:45   disliked Scott yes I think I uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:51   that is as though I knew this question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53   was going to be asked because I have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:54   answer I i would point to probably the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:58   first and this may in fact be the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   science-fiction novel I ever read so and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:04   i haven't read it since I was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06   in elementary school I imagine a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:11   and again by Jack Finney which is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:14   about time travel and jack but he also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:18   wrote invasion of the Body Snatchers if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   anyone cares about that and so the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:24   thing about this book is it set in New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:27   York which I always liked reading books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29   that are set in New York City and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:30   main character travels back in time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:33   eighteen hundreds New York which is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35   something that I had shohei in fact this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:38   may have this book may have started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40   mother at all starting your obsession [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   with eighteen hundreds of new york [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:45   and so the idea is that the government [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:49   its 1970 and the government starts this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   program to figure out if they can time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   travel and the way they think that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   can time travel is if you live so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:58   in 1970 so they after this warehouse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   with a you know period rooms and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:04   have people live as though they were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:06   you know 1880 and using only the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:09   of your mind you are transported to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:12   time period so that the main character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:15   does in fact transport himself to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:18   time period and a variety of hijinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:22   ensue and including where he's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:25   government wants him to change the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27   so that you know certain things don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29   happen and people don't meet that need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   to meet and he you know so it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:35   interesting book and kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:36   prototypical to me at least a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:37   time-travel science fiction novel and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:41   has illustrations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:42   oh nice when what about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:46   I'm gonna reach into the past to I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:48   appropriate for talking about time for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1848">TS</a>]

00:30:49   coupling say grace upon a time was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:52   probably one of my are James P Hogan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:55   yeah now he did he pass away he recently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   passed away and he actually lived for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59   several years in my hometown and I met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   him when I was kid and Delta and yes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:04   very nice fellow and it's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:05   passed away recently and in 2010 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:08   I think I dedicate this podcast today we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:10   do to James P hogan who wrote great by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:13   the way great novel love inherit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15   stars which was written on a band glow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   familiar i don't recall that the it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:22   written on a bad we're all that he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:24   working at digital equipment in Ireland [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26   i think at the time and and he said he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:28   had this idea of astronauts go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:31   moon and they find a dead body of an of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:34   a guy in a spacesuit that is completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:36   unrecognizable that's been there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1896">TS</a>]

00:31:40   thousands of years and it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:41   supplement up and and one of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:43   co-workers said I i bet you can't write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:46   that story and he did and he got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:49   published and that was his first novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:50   you know it has like has a fantastic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52   cover because i just googled it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   it doesn't it lets the two it's the two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   astronauts and you can get I think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:57   mentioned on a podcast before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:58   actually available for free download on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   pub download I believe still from band [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:04   like it's got that great cover with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06   two astronauts who are looking over a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:07   rock and there's the guy the dead the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   skeleton any orange space yeah it kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:12   of looks like a rebel fighter from Star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:15   Wars yeah and it's and that's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:16   the start of a series there are sequels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:18   although it doesn't read like to also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   mention things that we mentioned in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   previous podcast it doesn't it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:23   like there were he wrote one book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:24   chopped into three to make you buy three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26   books and it stands alone but then some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:29   of the concepts that come out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:31   kind of you know fascinating and semi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:33   scientifically inaccurate but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   fascinating resolution to this plot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   how this guy could be their leadoff to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:39   the sequel books which are actually also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:40   pretty good anyway the three upon a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   is more hard sci-fi about how would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:45   send a message back in time right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   that's that's right and I i wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49   point out that some of the best fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:50   ever written was written because of bar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:52   bets and then that's so what does a best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1972">TS</a>]

00:32:56   buy CS lewis wrote his perelandra series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58   because he and I and J are talking were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:01   great buddies sort of challenge each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   other to wright sci fi books and oddly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:05   talking never wrote his I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   been curious to see ants in the space it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:11   would have been boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13   yeah we've been terribly boy but wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   until tom bombadil appears at the space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:18   books to sing his space song in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:21   strange language for saving our april [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:24   edition comfortable being developed as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26   we speak we working on the script for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   that race upon a time for a spot of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:30   one so this is guest book about nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32   eighty and i think i read it right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:33   around that time so I was one-year-old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   know i was about was a 12 at the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:38   perfect time to i was already exposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40   sci-fi but I read this book and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42   remember i read it again several years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44   ago and I remember it so distinctly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46   because it's a very sweet book it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48   great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:49   hard-science elements in it it's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:51   very innocent love story in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:53   it's got tales of loyalty it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   kittens or a kitten i should say a sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:58   of quantum kitten in its the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:01   dangerous kind any instead of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:04   butterfly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:05   there's a ball of paper bomb bomb bomb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:08   bomb that plays a key role in it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:11   but i think the book part of it is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:12   his just such a sweet book that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:15   basic plot is that this fellow is uncle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:18   like an oversized uncle or a distant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   relative goes to work with his uncle in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:21   somewhere in the UK and Scotland write a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:24   lot about the plot i should i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26   come prepared with a lot but this fellow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   has developed a machine this older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   fellows developed a device that allows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:33   you to send a message back in time but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:36   only two previous versions of the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:39   machine right which is a brilliant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:40   concept in on a different basis in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:43   reality yeah there's some stereo exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:45   you could build conceivably have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   theories check out and you might have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:48   you know who knows what the machines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50   nature be or the size of it or the power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52   requirements but it is conceivable you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:53   could build a machine that if the theory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55   were consistent future iterations of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:58   machine or other devices could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2098">TS</a>]

00:34:59   correspond so kind of he was a way ahead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   of his time it right the movie primer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   very similar which I love by the way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05   i highly recommend and in that movie you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   have to build the time machine flip it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09   on and then wait and then in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:13   you can get in it and come back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   point where you flipped it on right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   I sorta like sort of like that ties in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:18   with Hawkins theories and so forth so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20   will you know what we want to the math [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:22   here of course will be working on their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:23   own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:24   that's right home but your whiteboard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   but yeah yeah it's all I'm so you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   where I found the detail it is Murdock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   Ross and his friend visit marks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   grandfather in Scotland I didn't over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34   some details [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:35   he's figured this out in what happens is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37   this is a seminal year in which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39   supposed to be oh it's supposed to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41   december 2009 even I didn't realize this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43   was set more in the future that is on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:45   our far the future and want to the earth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:48   be like the photograph for the drawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   on the covers marvelous is using a pet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52   computer clearly a pet with three minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   modifications awesome but anyway that so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:57   the novel is just a bunch of events [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2157">TS</a>]

00:35:58   happen that you're including again from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:01   the future Large Hadron Collider style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:04   micro black holes being created after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:07   the device is switched on not because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09   the device so they're able through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11   device to continuously change history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:13   and very small ways but only within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:15   confines of the narrative structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:17   which is one thing is beautiful and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:18   fellow falls in love doesn't fall in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20   love falls and his friend is dying is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22   not dying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:23   he kidding basketball one-way wallpaper1 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:26   the other and the book ends with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:27   sort of cliffhanger everything I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   believe that a sequel was ever written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:30   but it was sort of you know sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:32   throwaway as the developers machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:36   wakes up one morning it starts the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   time you turn it on it spews out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   hundreds or thousands of pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:42   information including a note from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:43   Queen explaining how the entire planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:48   will be destroyed that his mom it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:52   funny the the well james hogan road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:56   another time travel book called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:59   Proteas operation which is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:01   interesting it but it's mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   historical stories about world war two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:04   and the premises that it's the seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:08   and I the United States is the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:12   country to have not fallen to Nazi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:17   domination and they build a time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:21   and send a small team of people back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23   the beginning of world war two to see if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   they can change the course of history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27   and what's delightful about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   everything that does they do in back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   time of course is setting this alternate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:34   timeline right into our history so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:37   they're making our history from this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:40   alternate timeline which is i love i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:42   love the time travel story in Reverse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:44   where you're not trying to not change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:45   the future they're actively trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47   change the future and what they changed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:49   it to is our present our our history [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:52   that's good i think it's a good one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   it's similar in some ways to the book I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:58   was going to mention one of the books I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2278">TS</a>]

00:37:59   was going to mention which is Timescape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:00   by Gregory Benford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:01   oh yes which from 1981 are nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:04   eighty somewhere in there which I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06   partially because it's at UCSD where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08   went to college it's it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:11   downer i have to say because it said in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13   a future time that uh there's been I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:16   think ecological disasters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   catastrophes and essentially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:21   messages to be you can send messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   back in time but sadly it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:26   actually save the people who are sending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:28   them because you create your branch off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:31   what happens at one point in the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:32   is that they they make so many changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   the information they're sending back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   I'm again trying to base this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:37   scientific reality the information [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39   they're sending back in time is so great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   at one point that it can't reconcile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:44   itself with the with the future and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:48   it sheared off into a parallel universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50   soho so the these guys don't succeed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:53   saving themselves they succeed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   creating a parallel universe that can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   hopefully avoid the mistakes that led to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59   this point so it's really kind of dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   but it's also a very cool very cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:05   story so I I'm out that was a hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07   winner 24 or nebula winner it's what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:12   want a couple of those big awards and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:13   it's good and that Benford who wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:16   that Gregory Benford and Greg bear and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2356">TS</a>]

00:39:18   david brin I think all were at UCSD [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:21   around the killer period yeah i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   they're all at UCSD which I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:24   realize when I went there you know ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26   years later to the model seattle-based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   interesting well that's where you go you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   go from one end of the i-5 to the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32   end to bring in there are local killer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:35   bees and what else i want to mention i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:38   want to mention connie willis who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:39   written a bunch of great time around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41   looks the best my favorite of which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43   would say i'm not going to go for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   doomsday book which is also it down or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47   I'm gonna go for to say nothing of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:48   dog which we mentioned i know in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   podcast hilarious sort of book of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   Victorian manners [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54   except it's about time travel just very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:58   funny funny book for for somebody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2398">TS</a>]

00:40:00   written these sort of serious books are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:02   current pair of books about the Blitz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:05   and that book about doomsday book which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07   is about the plague are really dark and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:10   yet to say nothing of a dog is it is one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:13   of the funniest things I've ever read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:14   it's a very funny book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:17   speaking of funny books that have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:18   mentioned on the podcast before Jasper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:21   Ford's thursday next series includes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:23   character Thursday Next father Colonel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:26   next was a member of the spec up 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:31   which is an organization that a does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2431">TS</a>]

00:40:34   time travel and in the in that universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:38   they're able to time travel because at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   some point in the future time travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:42   will be invented so that they can time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44   travel and he's gone rogue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:47   so the the spec op 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   sent agents to interrupt his conception [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   so he was never existed he never exists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:54   but he does through some kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:55   manipulation through time he's able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:58   exist and he pops up and helps Thursday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:00   Next through her adventures every once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02   in a while I would also mention outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:05   no go ahead i would also mention the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:07   evolutionary void which I wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:09   mention in passing i will mention again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11   we talked about what we are reading but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:12   it has is very it's a trilogy has a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:14   odd conception of time travel in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16   which is that rather than travel through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:19   time you store the a pocket universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:22   inside our universe powered by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   destroying stars outside this pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:27   universe stores a backup copy of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:30   everything that's happened it's time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32   machine for a time machine at the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:35   product for science fiction so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:38   something goes wrong you can consciously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:39   cause the entire universe you're into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:42   rewind at great great expense to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:44   star fields outside and then just do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:47   over and the story of the the source of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:50   trilogy and the story centers on a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:53   of Brazilian characters and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55   2,000 pages long but it's a unique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57   anything unique conception of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:59   travel as a capability of resetting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:02   reality as opposed to traveling through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   the outside reality continues to flow at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   normal time while this pocket universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:07   is entirely different reality in which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:10   the changed events can be seen as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12   as other the old events can be seen as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14   part of a narrative in which the change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:16   occurs within it isn't that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:18   resolution of the latest season of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   doctor who basically that they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:22   backup for the end of her it's only have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:24   a reboot it's on a backup it's more like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   open Amy Amy remembers things and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:29   she's the backup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:30   it's like an install disk alright okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:33   the TARDIS is the back by air installer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:37   no no it's now ask but the great thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:40   about time travel is that you can get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   to do anything anything you want because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:45   it's just kind of crazy and ridiculous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   as long as you put the word tacky and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   front of enough thing sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51   Bergeron you can do anything you want so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   the other book i want to mention and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   exchanged email about this so i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   what's coming that I that I love love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:59   love love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:00   uh-huh uh-huh is the Time Traveler's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:03   Wife yea big land may have transformed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:07   into an angry gorilla holic smash i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:12   the time traveler's wife and i and maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14   that makes me a girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:15   well my husband say my wife loves the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   time traveler's wife so all so they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:21   they're gonna know she has great taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   there are no she married me oh yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:28   all make sound effects on the show I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   provide some of them i well i will i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32   admit i did not read the entire time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   travelers wife i stopped at a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:36   which irritated me so great that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:39   thought I might explode and so I had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41   put it down now save the planet wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   your wasn't your argument that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45   didn't like the time travelers wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:46   because it was so obvious what was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:47   to happen and so what's the point of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49   whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:50   well it was no was the heavy-handedness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:52   of the foreshadowing which i think is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:55   which may be exactly what you just said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   stated more pretentious indie but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:58   don't know i think my feet I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:01   is im Michael any human reactionary as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:05   somebody who had a glint off and Wilson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:06   will make a point which is I usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:08   quite right that somebody post something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:12   online and Glynis a little let me guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   you're an engineer right because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   this application of a very specific way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:18   of thinking and I have to admit I add [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20   that response when Glenn told me that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22   hated the time traveler's wife because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   he's like but it's it's so obvious and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   it's heavy-handed and this is what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:27   going to happen in my response was of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29   course it's going to happen that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:30   that's the whole point the the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32   traveler's wife is is just a story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34   a married couple who meet and fall in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:37   love and have a kid and live their life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   and then they die and one of them dies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:42   and the other one is left without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:43   other one and it that's the story of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   every marriage with the exception being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:47   that they put one of them in a blender [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:50   and his time stream get split up like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:53   you know Billy Pilgrim style which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:55   what gives it its it's spin but what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57   liked about it is in the end you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:59   yes it's this question of what happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01   to him and it's very clear i think early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:04   on what's going to happen to him Glen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:06   your point yes haha they they never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:08   really wanted to talk about where her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:09   father showed up with his shotgun and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:12   seemed to stir [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:13   but for some reason there was blood I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:15   wonder if that will be important later I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2715">TS</a>]

00:45:17   may not course it will be important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:19   later but I i still love it because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:21   know in the end it is to me that book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:25   about the inevitability of of a married [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:29   couple couple loves each other as much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   as you could possibly love one another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:32   being separated by death and that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:36   know the perspective is different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:37   because after he dies they still see him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:40   because he's in this kaleidoscope of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:43   time travel and you know I I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   was really cool to take a ride through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:48   couple's relationship from that outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:50   you know I outside twisted perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:53   of a viewing it out of order which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:56   know Steven Moffat is actually done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:57   basically lift lifted that premise and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2757">TS</a>]

00:46:01   is using it for the river song plot in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   Doctor Who where they're also having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   their relationship happen out of order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07   that's right we've already seen in yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:08   well let me tell you two things one is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:11   will confess this is a live on the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   convection actually thought the book was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   quite beautiful and what hit me was as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:18   got to the point at which i suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20   realized that it was going to be a total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   heart tearing tearjerker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   I found I couldn't take it I hit I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   like somewhere I don't know was made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28   third of the way windows meet her in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   library the first time she has met him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:33   as when she's an adult and he's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:34   met her before or yeah that's about yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:37   yeah there's the scene where he hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:40   she meets him as a child right he in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:44   library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:45   he needs her for the first time and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   course she knows him very well and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49   has no idea who she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51   he's perfectly pleased because they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:52   back and you know well she's hot and jen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:55   and she loves him and he's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:56   know who the hell she is so he's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58   alright have desirable intercourse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:01   yeah so the I think I hit that point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:04   the book and there were a few elements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06   that were revealed clearly and i was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:08   i just i found it didn't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:09   stomach to at that point to read further [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:13   and I could play the personal card i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:14   think it may have been after my mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16   died [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:17   see now i'm getting all weepy he'll make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:18   it all very personal know it but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   that was the thing is like I hit a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:21   where I just I so i will actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:25   recanting my position is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27   it's not that I didn't like it i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:28   that i thought the foreshadowing was too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   heavy-handed but I also because the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:33   was so well-constructed I could see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:34   Machine returning was gonna make me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   miserable and I thought I don't this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   like the UH the Doctor Who statements [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   like you know sometimes nobody dies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42   right this is episode of doctor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   wears a few of them like the doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   dances and it the silence and libraries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:49   as part 2 which is technically people do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:52   die but whatever am a back to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:55   backup so it's ok it's it's that notion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57   that in this universe which everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:58   is this in the doctors university [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   there's always massive amounts of death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:02   and destruction whatever sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:03   nobody dies so I have that reaction was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:04   like you know I am NOT ready to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   this sink is an evil guy castro my fate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:09   be killed and what is clearly going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:11   be a horrible method and all the loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:14   that goes with it so I I my back off on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   my previous statement it is a sad it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:18   a sad book but at the same time I i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:21   think it's a very sweet and beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23   and you don't hurt Saturday was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   movie bahaha yeah i heard really was not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:28   good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2908">TS</a>]

00:48:29   it's true no but the book the book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   beautiful and i love how the book ends I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:32   mean the book ends with hit with because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   he you know he dies from their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   perspective but he's still traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:39   throughout his life and it ends with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:42   last time the oldest he sees her right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:47   so from his respective it's the oldest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:48   she sees her from her perspective it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:50   the last time she sees him before she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52   dies and she's extremely old and it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:55   it's so sad but it is beautiful at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57   same time that that it's this tragic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2937">TS</a>]

00:49:00   story and yet at the same time you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:03   it's it's beautiful that he hit you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:06   his his gift is also allowed them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:09   keep seeing him after he's died so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   is a river song thing river song has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13   book of all those times she's seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15   doctor and keeps flipping backwards in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   silence the library she finally finds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   wait a minute we haven't she finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   realized they haven't met yet this be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:22   right where the start of her jewellery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24   and she has the character in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:27   travelers like she has a list that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29   gave her which I was talking about here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   now isn't that is until they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   figure out they figure out how to sync [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   it up its yeah it's interesting so Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:39   your wife liked it did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:40   yet I did not read it because it sounded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:43   a little too girly for my taste you but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:47   I i I'm narrow-minded so that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:50   the it's great i really i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:53   reenacted so i love the fact that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55   the camry the character the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:58   I'm sorry I spoiled it all for you now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2998">TS</a>]

00:49:59   Scott but now I don't need to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   because the depressive apparently but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:02   it's no it's great because you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:05   says a lot of things about relationships [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:06   so again i apologize for being a girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   but it's a lot of things about the upper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:11   relationships that are so true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   especially as you get older that I'm you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   know we we meet him you know it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:19   funny because you meet him as an adult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:20   as a full-fledged adult who knows what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   going on and then the first time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   really meet him he's you know in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26   twenties and is is still going out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:29   punk rock concerts and has is Paris kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:31   of funny and his closer kind of funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   and it and it's hilarious because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:35   like oh this guy doesn't have it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:37   together at all he he gets it together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   later and you got it you got a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   studying in which he as a teenager [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   appears naked in the room his own room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:46   with himself and the father walks in ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:49   ya little hilarious it'sit's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:52   some good stuff in it anyway so I bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54   up the time traveler's wife as well so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:55   those of you out there who are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:56   afraid of your of your standing in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:59   of all you men out there who are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:00   afraid of your masculinity and all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:02   you women out there who bless you for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:03   listening to this podcast which is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:07   men today you know it's a great i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:11   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:11   we have shaved during this podcast love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13   that book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:14   uh speaking of women who listen to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:16   podcast my my my wife does not listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:19   the podcast because we were at powell's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:21   when we visited portland and she said oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:24   the windup girl I want to read that book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   and I said didn't you listen to the game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:29   the the podcast where we talked about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   just like you're on a podcast that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   yeah well she can listen to it after she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:35   reads the one my wife has a negative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:37   interest in science fiction or interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:38   in science fiction is so low it makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:41   other people not read it wow that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:44   impressive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:44   it's like a two-hour it shine wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46   science fiction my wife like science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   fiction but I she basically waits for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:51   to recommend something to her and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:53   like if it's good enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:54   for me to be like oh you got to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:55   this then she'll read it but she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   going to pick it up by the way she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:58   figures i can be her screener which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:00   fair enough my life like science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   she just doesn't like listening to me so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   oh well I i can understand that I in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:09   July however I enjoy listening to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:12   but she gets to listen to you all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:13   time it's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:14   non-stop I don't know if she has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:17   listen to canned can scott when she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   away from you so i could listen to Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   talking some more you did for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:23   travel more and then the podcast will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   grow fonder uh-huh that's true i should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:28   leave my wife and then jobs this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:30   a so what makes the mp3 grow fonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:33   before we before we wrap up this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:35   i want to go around the room which it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:38   will be not take very much time since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:40   we're the only ones who read that book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:41   if you attack ask your it yes in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:45   triangle of the book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:46   the musical question what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:49   reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:50   Scott what are you reading I am really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:53   something that is not science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:56   ok I i will admit is the third book in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3176">TS</a>]

00:53:00   series of books called mr. slaughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:04   it's by Robert mccammon and it is about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:08   a character by the name of Matthew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:11   Corbett who is well starts off as a law [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:14   clerk in 1699 so it's cool it's set in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:20   the colonial America and he is in New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:23   York it he actually does live in New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25   your heart so it is colonial New York [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:29   I'm going even further back and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:30   specific with my mysteries that i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:33   and so in this book he is looking for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:37   bad guy named mr. slaughter not to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:40   confused with sergeant slaughter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:43   wow it's very good all right Glenn what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:46   about you i just recently finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:49   reading a couple big things one is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   mentioned earlier is the evolutionary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   void part of a insanely long series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:57   three books by Peter F Hamilton whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3237">TS</a>]

00:54:00   work I really quite like Hamilton's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:01   writing but he mostly over rights but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:05   man he's got a lot of detail he really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:06   feels the need to express it in 700-page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:09   books so i think the void trilogy is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:12   like I want to say it's like 2,000 pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14   long i'm not sure i'm exaggerating again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   I don't think you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:17   he only wrote he also wrote his earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19   books he wrote a detective side my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:22   detective thing and those are much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:23   shorter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:24   oh I didn't I well I think over time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:26   people get less constrained if they sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:29   stuff it necessarily it's the neal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31   stephenson syndrome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33   yeah but there's also on pandora star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:34   and Judas Unchained or earlier books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   like white I think our little more zippy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:37   and stories and those that I detail but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   so the void books i mean the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41   evolutionary void just came out and read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43   it on the kindle because the book weigh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:45   700 pounds and i use the kindle app to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:48   avoid hurting my arms while reading this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:49   behemoth it's definitely entertaining I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:52   again I think too many words across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54   three books but the story is basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:56   there's a religious movement that spread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:58   across the you know a alliance of many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00   planets occupied by human beings that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:03   this primary character the dreamer first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:08   dreamer can see dreams of this pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   universe that show a different kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   life and people eventually want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:13   migrate into this pocket universe but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15   another race of beings has fought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   back for thousands of years many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:19   millions or something and the end if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3319">TS</a>]

00:55:22   everyone were to go into that universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:23   they would create such an energy suck on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:26   the you-know-what real universe that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   universe would cease to exist in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30   be this kind of weird resettable pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32   universe so it's I think it's always a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   rousing the tail but it is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:35   interesting some good metaphysics a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37   of them great explosions and fights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:39   really well depicted huge amounts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41   destruction and sadistic evil people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:45   it's it's kind of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:46   I don't have finished all right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:49   because now it's good to read it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:50   it's all done so because the bond I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:52   with his books is whenever he you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   he has to write them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:55   you read one and you have to wait a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57   or year and a half to read the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:59   and then i have read no idea what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:00   happened so you have read the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   thats not realizing was a trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:03   planned trilogy make five years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:06   the other thing I just finished reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:07   as I got the collected versions of DC [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09   Comics blackest day brightest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:11   black-and-white rather like write a nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:15   day blackest night series where it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17   across you know 400 different comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:18   series in there whatever I got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   collective versions of the library to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   read as I found is a great way to catch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:23   up on a lot of comics because they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:25   everything together in one place and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:26   don't have piles of strewn confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   things and I found the story's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:30   sort of in comprehensible and messianic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:32   and bizarre but not too bad not too bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:34   is no it's again library collections of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:36   comics a great way to actually catch up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   on some of the interesting stuff that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   going on in comics without getting a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:41   message to the inn you know buying 500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   copies than trying to collate the order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:44   in which things happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:45   that's a Green Lantern thing is nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:48   yeah it's I mean it's interesting it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:49   all of a sudden it turns out it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:51   out the Guardians of the Universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:52   they're hiding something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54   providing is there are other colors in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:57   the spectrum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:58   well sort of the plot I'm shocked go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:01   that also sounds lame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3421">TS</a>]

00:57:03   so I read a lot of books on my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:06   Christmas vacation i read a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:08   nonfiction so now again Scott yes these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:10   are not science fiction either but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:12   think people might like them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3432">TS</a>]

00:57:13   there's a science book the only place in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:15   19th century or if if you like if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3435">TS</a>]

00:57:17   like science i read a very entertaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:20   book about astronomy and about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:24   process of discovering things in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:27   professional astronomers go to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   through called love the titles by Mike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:32   Brown who discovered the the plant the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:35   not planet- Minor Planet eros it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:38   discovered a lot of these these distant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:41   solar system objects including one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:42   is bigger than Pluto which led to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:45   whole existential crisis about is Pluto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:48   a planet or not and it has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:49   delightful title how I killed Pluto and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:52   why it had it coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:54   yeah he was guest blogging on-going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:56   going for a while and stuff your very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58   eyes he's a funny guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   it's a good book and it really does talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   about it talk about his personal life in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:05   an interesting way and his life as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07   professional astronomer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09   what they went through and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3489">TS</a>]

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00:58:26   of one of the objects that they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3506">TS</a>]

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00:58:31   version of this of a kind of conference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3511">TS</a>]

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00:58:35   for it turned out that they have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3515">TS</a>]

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00:58:39   they then use that data to pre discover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3519">TS</a>]

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00:58:45   already discovered just it's it's a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3525">TS</a>]

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00:58:55   as good but a good book if you've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   wondered why the large hadron collider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   exists and what they're really trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3539">TS</a>]

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00:59:04   sample who works at I think the Guardian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:06   in London called massive the missing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3546">TS</a>]

00:59:10   particle that sparked the greatest hunt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:11   in science which explains a lot about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   the arms race that led to the large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:16   hadron collider and the failure of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:19   u.s. to create the superconducting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:20   supercollider and sort of the politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3560">TS</a>]

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00:59:57   license on the CDC says that you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3597">TS</a>]

01:00:00   can redistribute it on the internet if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3600">TS</a>]

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01:00:05   they're giving away most of the books in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:08   the series in e-reader format if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3608">TS</a>]

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01:00:14   with child why my kindle has seven of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3614">TS</a>]

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01:00:18   all these but it's brilliant because if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   she writes another one that I have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:21   buy in fact one of the missing on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:22   there's a book called memory that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:24   omitted because it's not in one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3624">TS</a>]

01:00:25   omnibus edition and and I i got to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:28   book and I said what I don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3628">TS</a>]

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01:00:38   so we'll just we'll do a whole miles for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3638">TS</a>]

01:00:41   coach again podcast at some point but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3641">TS</a>]

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01:00:45   and nebula nominee list over the years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3645">TS</a>]

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01:01:00   e-reader is you can just ignore the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:02   cover art on the kindle especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3662">TS</a>]

01:01:04   there's no coverage imagine no covered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3664">TS</a>]

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01:01:11   something new on the incomparable book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:12   club which is we are going to declare [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:15   this is required us to actually do some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   work in advance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:18   we're going to declare the book that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:19   are going to cover in our next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:21   installment which will hopefully this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23   madness people and if not it'll just be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:25   me and Scott yes then we'll have dropped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:29   out by that game Auryn will have have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3689">TS</a>]

01:01:32   resigned from the podcast altogether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3692">TS</a>]

01:01:33   this sort of test is over this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:36   is over it'll be the last thing we post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:38   anyway so so this is the book that we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3698">TS</a>]

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01:01:41   not be deterred by the spoiler horn go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3701">TS</a>]

01:01:44   out and read this book the book we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:46   going to read we mentioned it actually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3706">TS</a>]

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01:01:49   think i think it was because it has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:52   Zeppelin on to hover on the cover and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:56   figures in prominently into this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:57   gotten some great reviews on a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3717">TS</a>]

01:02:00   list of the best sci-fi you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:03   Chandra in general novels of 2011 for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05   2010 so we're going to read it it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:09   dream of perpetual motion by dexter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:12   Palmer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   and it's available in paperback it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   available for kindle so check it out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:19   then we will discuss that back here in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:22   few weeks but we're giving you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3742">TS</a>]

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01:02:25   caught up with us rather than loading up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3745">TS</a>]

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01:02:30   i haven't read that book and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:33   pausing it as being like Scott's wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3753">TS</a>]

01:02:34   and saying I can't listen to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:36   podcast and I can't and I would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:38   point out that i read this book before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3758">TS</a>]

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01:02:43   know you you get a lot of credibility we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45   look to you Scott to find out what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:47   up-and-coming i am a trendsetter you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3767">TS</a>]

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01:02:52   an e-book from google books among other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3772">TS</a>]

01:02:54   places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3774">TS</a>]

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01:02:59   that's Robbie booksellers and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3779">TS</a>]

01:03:02   paperback so it's affordable even if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:04   choose to read it on dead trees was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:07   probably in a library near use it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3787">TS</a>]

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01:03:15   a bachelor copy that would be at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3795">TS</a>]

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01:03:28   reading the book and you realize that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:29   you in fact wrote the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3809">TS</a>]

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01:03:36   else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:37   yes haha and i liked it so it's two out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:40   of three one out of three people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3820">TS</a>]

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01:03:44   recommend reading it but I wouldn't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:45   that I like this is not funny i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3825">TS</a>]

01:03:48   parts of it didn't hold together as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3828">TS</a>]

01:03:49   whole but i would recommend reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51   was very interesting challenging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:52   thought-provoking and Scott you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3832">TS</a>]

01:03:55   recommend reading it i would recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3835">TS</a>]

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01:04:00   would recommend writing it I that yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3840">TS</a>]

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01:04:08   future and shoot him take it and read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3848">TS</a>]

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01:04:16   alright well until next time i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:19   like to thank my guests Glenn freshman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:20   at Scott McNulty thanks guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3860">TS</a>]

01:04:22   thank you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:23   thank you and that's it for this edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:25   of the book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:27   thanks for listening to be uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:29   we'll catch you next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:32   this has been the incomparable podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3872">TS</a>]

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01:04:57   mention it because he's almost on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3897">TS</a>]

01:04:59   difference like every function isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3899">TS</a>]

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01:05:05   today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3905">TS</a>]

01:05:06   well I use that as the excuse also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:08   hasn't read the book but is it happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3908">TS</a>]

01:05:10   to be could be reading it right now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:12   the dog is homework [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaGx_Dk/3912">TS</a>]