22: Stephen Fry (Does Not Appear)
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the incomparable Todd test number 22
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January 2011 recorded live in front of a
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studio audience of one
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it's friday night it's 9pm Pacific do
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you know where your children and you
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know what we're doing because we're
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party animals
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we're all drinking tea like the English
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dreamy me know in comments to do that
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wasn't even an English accent I wished
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it was it just sounds kind of pompous I
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want to talk about you know what Stephen
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Fry ok Mycroft Holmes all right so mark
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gatiss I don't want to talk about any so
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let me explain what's happening here
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this is the uncomfortable podcast i am
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jason l apparently your host because
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I've been declared so by Dan Morris the
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the sort of explain we are here though
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there is a scalar is too much
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don't let me sum up normally when we do
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these podcasts we are scattered across
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the four corners of the earth or at
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least of the United States and we do it
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all with the magic of skype and that's
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why this podcast is so very wrong
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because we're all in a little room where
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they turned off the air conditioning and
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we're all slowly going to suffocate on
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jason's quest recording this together
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why is this night different from all the
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night um maybe they said there are not
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enough people in the room who get that
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so I like I get it yeah I know you do I
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know you do know you do i'm pointing and
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our audience yes we we do have an
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audience of one who's taking up the
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oxygen its gonna be like the cold
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equations actually at some point
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somebody's gonna have to die and we're
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going to shoot them out the door of the
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podcast room just in order to keep
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enough oxygen going this time on the
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uncomfortable we slowly kill off members
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of the cast will survive
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yes that would be a great episode so
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joining me here if it isn't already
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obvious in this room today locked in its
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like a locked-room mystery the mystery
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is what are we talking about some time
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and our suspects are myself jason l also
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known as Professor plum across from me
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is serenity Caldwell miss Scarlett
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uh next to her is Glenn fleischmann
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Colonel Mustard i'm holding a pipe there
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is no pipe there is no pipe that Hisle
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next to me like that to me is dan dan
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moore and mr. green eyed see ok mr.
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green it is and our audience is holding
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a candlestick and
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and wherein is that like you so wait are
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our loan audience member could be mr.
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body he is just the island he's the
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unnamed victim mr. body is here with us
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has a name
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tvs Lex Friedman see and this is great
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because we have laughter but it's not a
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laugh track it's just a guy but he
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laughs every time the same way as me
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maybe it's like the first season as my
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last night
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ok so glad you said you wanted to talk
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about Stephen friday then I'd always
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want to talk about Stephen Fry because
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he is possibly the most interesting
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person the world not just doesn't listen
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to this quietness it's almost over
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alright well we could tweet it to him in
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any case so Stephen Fry has been
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tweeting that he will be playing Mycroft
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Holmes in an upcoming second sherlock
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holmes movie with Robert Downey jr. jr.
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students to hear yet that's the horns
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week already down to do not i just use
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your friends column June June RDG so a
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UH treated the gs4 to your GSI and
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besides so Stephen Fry has my craft Mart
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gallery Morty market money Morty Mark
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Gatiss played sure my craft Sherlock's
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elder brother in the recent BBC
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adaptation that we all talked about
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right the type of muffins and and market
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if I was smart I would look up who
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played a mini Jeremy Brett series it's a
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it's a I don't the underlord it was
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episode something so he was Blofeld in
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diamonds are forever with a terrible
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bond I've seen all the bonds and let me
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tell you diamonds are forever
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that was the movie is that not the movie
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where Sean Connery came back after
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departing no no you think I've never say
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never again
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no no no but he came back he quit and
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then George Lazenby did on her majesty's
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secret service and then they na through
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a lot of money at sean connery to come
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back and do one last bono the heat films
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like five or six up front he left last
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he came in after lesson he was more and
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alone this there's a one-off which is
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not is one of those ones that like the
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broccoli family did not only racing
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royale no no that there's also never say
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never again will that which is wonderful
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that the ball right and he's got great
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it's sean connery and it's like 1980 and
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like kim basinger around
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I don't think that's the you know now at
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a risk of destroying our computer I
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don't think that's the bond timeline
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well sorry what we're talking about
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James blood bond over this is gonna be
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like the eight degrees of parentheses
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one large cast is one more mystery
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science theater 3000 uncovered a movie
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made by sean connery's brother in which
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he plays James Bond's brother a man who
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can control people with his mind and
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they pronounced off and they bring I
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think it's the guy plays Blofeld also is
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in this terrible terrible movie in which
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and it opens with the villain projecting
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a movie on a nude back of a woman
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because that's apparently what villains
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do they use women as a kind of furniture
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not very good for movies free screen as
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well its kind of furniture not like
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mackerel is just to be clear here and to
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show that Dan Morgan is wrong again
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online Majesty's Secret Service was
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start star George Lazenby has released
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in 1969 it didn't go so well and they
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said please please Sean Connery come
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back to be James Bond which is why he
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appeared in diamonds are forever in 1971
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with the guy who is mycroft and sherlock
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holmes terrible movie and that was his
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last movie until he did the never say
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never again kind of contractual
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obligation think and then Roger Moore
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came in so what do you know you know did
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it was not something so actually it was
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economies products in the over Connery
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then more i have it on good authority
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from person who interviewed Sean Connery
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and multiplication that he is a not very
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gentlemen even in his prime as you need
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to borrow additional glad that we have a
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great day ahead of us comrade I'm a rush
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so terrible that Sean Connery did is our
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nose and eyes like with one of our God
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is a good i learned with highlander
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through when i was thinking is our God
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Zardoz Zardo money and activity there's
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lots of disease there's also highlander
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to the money collecting yes well the
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interval that's for sure
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yes it's that is that was highlighted to
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we're bringing back from the dead so he
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can make some more money a terrible
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highlander 33 highlander film i like i
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like that in the first Lander movie he
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is the only actual Scottish person in
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the movie and he plays an Egyptian and
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you have heard you have heard Mr
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Christopher Lambert has a terrible
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terrible scotch and you have heard who's
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the late-night host who is mr. wick on
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craig ferguson Ferguson's a whole rant
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about the fact that they get a Scots
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when he goes to Scotland in the movie
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Highlander and then does a spanish fake
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Egyptian accent the only movie that Sean
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Connery was ever in which he should have
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actually use outside so it doesn't use a
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different accent he still sounds like
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one from Egypt value thousand years old
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that's that's his voice how is it
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possible that i have more control over
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this podcast when you're on skype then
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when you're in the room with me how
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would you got your muscle because we
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can't even like we can't let go over
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each other its former when we're outside
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the beauty very then i can cut you out
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here I can't do anything
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no just talking you're all at our mercy
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so Stephen Fry leaving fri wonderful
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where were you going with stout as
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opposed to Tolland I was just thinking
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about my just like Mycroft Holmes smart
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game is like bikes the word bird girl
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I'm just time I'm just talking about
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Mycroft ladies watch your man that
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Mycroft is one badjojo matter i like
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talking a little brother I can I like
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corporate detectives who sitting
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comfortable chairs is there and that is
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a someone like Scott not be liking
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historical like fiction that begins with
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the letter W I don't know that in New
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York it is you know anyone there are
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there are many many detectives in this
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category and I will defend that I'll
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defend the indefensible
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alright so see them so what so so a
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proposed you have a list of two so far
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stephen fry is Mycroft Holmes vegas is
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is Mycroft Holmes in this be interesting
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because because Sherlock Holmes is in
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the public domain we have these two
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franchises of Sherlock Holmes
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on simultaneously you don't want to
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start me down that path sherlock holmes
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is not in the public domain precisely
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and it is the most boring story i could
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possibly tell you I'm really review some
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of it in the public domain sort of this
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issue about oh don't get me started
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there's a new york times article that
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smells and marvelously if it if
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listeners can use the google tell us
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about wireless standards it's you i'm
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not going there the I Triple E in 140
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characters or less go well you see no
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actually it's there's an interesting
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story there is interesting story i will
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get interesting story of this god damn
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it I store now we have to use the
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explicit rating you market is so the
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interesting story is your lesson what
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happens is there is a literary figures
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such as I know Agatha Christie or Arthur
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Conan Doyle or someone who writes a
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series of interesting novels and TV
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shows whatever and then they die and
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their spouse remarries and the person to
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marry is often a lawyer who is very good
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at exploiting the rights of dead people
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literary properties that minutes in and
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of itself could be a TV show that would
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be a great TV show don't have a kindle
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here is everybody okay with her keel I
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go without a light Murder She Wrote and
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then he died and then she wrote murder
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and murder murder she posthumously
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cashed in the pond
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wow that's the title of the pot you know
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Angela Lansbury been needing some more
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clearly
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yes well ever since you live right ever
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since she married george orwell she that
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was a match maiden George or one
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direction it works this is the worst
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room in the world right now isn't it
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it's really isn't it really warm and
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this wasn't drinking tea
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are we in the I feel like we're in the
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apologize to everybody all ready for
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actually directed they produced it and
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second grader James McTeague yeah and
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all goes back up from would never let me
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wanted the most basic on it's enjoyable
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totalitarian see I think there's
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something for everyone in there right I
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beautiful and and yeah that is so
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went 'damn is the whole hey natalie
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picks her that's a good 1984 call back
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around in that movie is that is a freaky
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wonderful underrated film and it's very
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effective to the book and there's a ton
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envy for the net as a call back to
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already set up so its interests it's
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interesting example of a book that is
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considered great literature and kids
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literature that is you know technically
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science fiction but it's very often
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represent under the guise well i'm
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book that i love but i think it is an
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interesting book it's not my favorite
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Bradbury work I think he's done
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for work elsewhere but it's the one that
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recently about that because I mean it's
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very similar to 1984 in some themes but
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one of my friends like oh right
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of people coming in memorizing books and
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get a remake for years off the ground
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actual book until much later there are
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architecture and things like that and
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seen it i have not either i read the
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breadline high school yeah i reread it a
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writer and if there's a one-book i would
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recommend it's something wicked this way
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look bill is about childhood Spence
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mattress on the floor reading this book
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prose is honestly lyrical really when it
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a forget how could the movie is 90
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adaptation 1981 of the TV movie with
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like jonathan pryce i knows jason
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robards now they're the the thickets
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father worried about losing his son the
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son want to grow faster than he could
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he always fought and fights the
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science-fiction label because he thinks
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of himself as you know writing the Great
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bill murray makes a cameo appearance and
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yeah I don't have time for that yeah
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well reading the russell davies book
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how do i wait the subtitle is how to
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worth of rendering time so that's why
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sometimes doctor who you're watching it
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and they're too long it's like we must
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make it across this gap and blow up that
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ship and whatever haha where they are
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time-honored rite like I mean you know
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stages and they don't look suspicious or
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know like what that's a scarce right
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yeah yeah which is I great the best
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proof ever of that or the best reference
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star trek reboot where they where they
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went back there to make it Vulcan was a
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in here it's a star trek it's got
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there i want to go there sometime just
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episode where she has her dream
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obviously live and see
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actually watching it now we're going to
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do a buffy retrospective win with that
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night when you actually I think she's in
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three it's um yeah that's right spoiler
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spoiler alert for the show that was off
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the air in 2003 but I think that's ok
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it's my fault it's okay it's okay it is
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my favorite TV show all she was young I
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was Amish between the two so classic
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show ever but it is that it was on upn I
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slot for most of it or then if i make no
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no it was an ATM someone because angel
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like the swerve easiest podcast ever
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issued work we'd only been drinking
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locked in a room
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glory he has done your house and someone
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drink what should we order for the drink
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fifth season of doctor who and there's
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them render the bad stuff and then to in
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just forcibly rendered and don't pay
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films i think that's how the BBC works
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alright so Stephen Fry brave new world
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Ray Bradbury I think we've had names
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bond all the glorious solaris Sean
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garnish with buffy the vampire slayer
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all lemons which is what's what's your
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you have won a television show of all
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time could God actually okay yeah you
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them actually a great show that is in
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sports night is a close second sports
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nice and space mountain but it's again a
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second so so we taking my top to do you
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because I don't honor it season of
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sports know there's only 20 to start
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season 2i thought it seemed like three
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the second season in terms of plot lines
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rating in the characters are still like
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really miss of sports night really
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misused the women characters and made
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them more kind of broad and chriqui and
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i would agree to a certain extent but i
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think i was so glad to have the laugh
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track on from sports night / levels also
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there are fantastic
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joke references in that film as well I
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that's a good thought of my favorite TV
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of it is going to be the happy little
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original reality right that's awesome i
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love that show that was that was on your
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way to make it to be swinging your ID be
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swinging oh my god sorry time between
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what smack the city really jeopardy show
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incredibly funny british sketch coca
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show you have to say it like I see it
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was like a the female heir to my python
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it was extremely absurd as they were
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skits with no connecting material is
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very talented honor
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three main actions whose names i could
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not tell you they show up all over the
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place one was in clatter for this great
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short-run british TV series created by
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the woman behind absolutely fabulous
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jennifer saunders Jennifer Saunders who
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if you start talking to jennifer
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saunders she connects to all other
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is a all connected they all contribute
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she's like she's a lot that's my wife
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you like watch the young ones you see
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all these British actors who grew up and
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do other things and they're all in there
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an entire podcast is talking about my
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favorite TV shows including pretty sure
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smack the pony rock the fuck rockford
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files in my dad's favorite TV show and
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it is and we're going back and watching
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it it is a great show and they try to
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remake it and it had a pilot with Dermot
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Mulroney i think yeah and it was a total
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flop and they didn't pick it up but
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there's a rumor that they're trying to
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reread it that and and what everybody
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wants to do is cast josh holloway who
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oh and you know what watching him on
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lost especially when he did his like
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Dharma Initiative jumpsuit kind of
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persona he's going to flare Jim Leffler
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yeah he is the right guy to be Jim
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Rockford he is cool and he's kind of
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laid-back and and that what you want
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that was what was great about James
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Rockford Files
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what's playing is it a movie was what
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plays the theme song wasn't already
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nose right yeah Mike post-its but the
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man who run us all of those things
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posted brothers yeah everything's yeah
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glad you like I saved myself redeem
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myself at the end that's right we won't
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kill you now it'll just will just slowly
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suffocate the shower games tonight Red
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you have a you have a my point is they
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go back and forth between sports night
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fault me speaking last fortnight sports
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favorite just because
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yes the as a television show it had its
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flaws but i love the characters and the
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beautiful thing about sports night is
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there's a quote for every occasion
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writer in I mean there's not very many
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television shows that I mean who only
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run for two seasons but for by large x
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large for any situation that I've been
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in my life to date there's a sports
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night quote and it's always funny and
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you know there's the characters are just
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fantastic
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of separation Josh Malina have been in
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the same room with him you or was it a
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set a room i'm like a stream that was
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looking to get it yet but had I would
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have you met you before i was hanging on
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i have already met Rick Moranis it's
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time to transplant but cannot ride by
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actually making a list of my favorite
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television shows and television shows i
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need to watch a couple games ago yeah
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well no because I had a huge I had a
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huge Luke I keep trying a man top five
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list in my calendar whatever fine that's
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your friend of mine was asking me what
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my top five television shows were and i
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went i was like sports night spaced west
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wing and i stopped at three and aaron
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sorkin yeah well I've only a little bit
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like girls but no I mean anti Josh
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overall series is terrible but
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specifically can make an entire list
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that's just top like top 10
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and TV shows that were cancelled before
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your ID Castile say there's there's a
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great book called what happened to the
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Hall of Fame i think i'm going to
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mention this before i'm not sure why I'm
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by Bill James the man who invented for
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baseball statistical analysis ne ne ne
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historical baseball abstract and he has
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this concept of theirs theirs career
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value and peak value and it's true when
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you're judging a baseball player
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hall-of-famer are the Hall of Famer not
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overall like career that's like well
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over 20 years he was really good or do
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sometimes like that to wear yeah you
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all time but the fact is if they had
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made the last two years I'd be okay with
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my wife and we're huge fans of that 70
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show is very very funny it was you know
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man in the room but today I the but it's
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always great show for the first few
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seasons we turn on whatever the last
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season of myself that study shows on
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they kill all the writers would you know
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staff changes land and also just because
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jumped the shark because you you get
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scenario someone more community when
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morgandy got promoted Jonathan winters
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always this horrific i mean there's
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always the the annoying neighbor next
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door problem which in what's funny is
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you can tell by the this there's always
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an annoying neighbor next door and some
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point but sometimes you know there's
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some shows you've watched where the
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annoying neighbor next door is on the
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first episode it's a great sign of doom
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sitcom for instance one where he's a
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cartoonist annoying neighbor i think it
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was a neighborhood the annoying
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character was in the first episode I
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don't like the last did not television
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shows where the annoying character so
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podcast or know his identity matrix
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sequels in public anyway my smile my
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point is that is that I I really agree
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with you that you have to balance the
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list of like the ones that really when
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they hit it were at the end I don't I if
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you make one list you just have to
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figure out how to balance those things
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so dear listeners hot plural all both of
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you count yourself lucky you weren't
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here while we recorded that we apply on
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this wall yes a dead fly flies didn't
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even make it out this is what it's like
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when you get us all together boy was
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this a good idea until next time for Dan
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more'n thanks to say something died
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sorry you're welcome our guest is no
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Glenn fleischmann Stephen serenity
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Caldwell's sports night forever for our
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audience our audience Thank You audience
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thank you have any pieces waving their
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works great on apply SS until next time
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this is jason snow thanking stephen fry
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good night Stephen Fry wherever you are
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