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24: My Word as Vorkosigan

 

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00:07:45   problem last but I decided out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/465">TS</a>]

00:07:48   shop because uh the the publisher bein [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/468">TS</a>]

00:07:52   had basically posted like 14 million of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/472">TS</a>]

00:07:55   them for free on the internet right you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   could you can download almost except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   one memory memory left by which i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/479">TS</a>]

00:08:03   already how they get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05   that's right they give away 10 books so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07   you can buy one point four dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/487">TS</a>]

00:08:08   brilliantly where it's hidden it did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/488">TS</a>]

00:08:11   work it did they got my it it didn't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/491">TS</a>]

00:08:14   know that i couldn't buy it from amazon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/494">TS</a>]

00:08:15   as an e-book I had to use their web [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/495">TS</a>]

00:08:18   scription thing but anyway that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/498">TS</a>]

00:08:19   another thing I so I i obviously i liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/499">TS</a>]

00:08:23   it and I continue to like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/503">TS</a>]

00:08:25   yeah I don't know why I didn't think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27   would like it mostly because I guess my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/507">TS</a>]

00:08:30   default is that i will not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/510">TS</a>]

00:08:32   something new it's helping the criminals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/512">TS</a>]

00:08:35   could be poisonous you never know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37   could be invested assets a new kindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39   and black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/519">TS</a>]

00:08:40   that's right then i know i love it oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   but I did enjoy it and I thought I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/522">TS</a>]

00:08:46   it was a nice kind of break from I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/526">TS</a>]

00:08:50   been reading a lot of kind of literary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   science fiction you know where authors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/532">TS</a>]

00:08:55   are trying to do things and like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/535">TS</a>]

00:08:58   dream of perpetual motion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/538">TS</a>]

00:08:59   collected over exactly which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00   perhaps the easiest thing to read and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   the author is clearly trying to play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04   with the genre a lot and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/544">TS</a>]

00:09:07   concepts of fiction and doing a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/547">TS</a>]

00:09:10   flashy writing and not to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/550">TS</a>]

00:09:14   google is a is a bad writer because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/554">TS</a>]

00:09:17   think she's very good writer but she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   like Dan said at the base like at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/559">TS</a>]

00:09:22   bottom of these is just kind of a fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24   adventure story and then she weaves in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/564">TS</a>]

00:09:27   lot of very kind of interesting themes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29   and ruminations on on things so that on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/569">TS</a>]

00:09:34   you know a deeper level you can think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/574">TS</a>]

00:09:35   about larger themes but if you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37   really want to think you can just enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38   miles ruining other people's lives as he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/578">TS</a>]

00:09:42   barrels through the universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   she's never really hitting you over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   head with anything you know just comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   kind of comes naturally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50   yeah i mean the the the the books are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/590">TS</a>]

00:09:55   they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/595">TS</a>]

00:09:56   yeah they're not they're not flashy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/596">TS</a>]

00:09:57   they're not showy but they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   adventurous and to dance point the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/599">TS</a>]

00:10:03   the genre playing with the genres i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/603">TS</a>]

00:10:04   really love the fact that you can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   books that are essentially about some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/606">TS</a>]

00:10:10   variation on human culture that sprung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12   up on some crazy planet somewhere like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/612">TS</a>]

00:10:15   the CD condoms who are our plate as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/615">TS</a>]

00:10:18   bad guys and then at a later point uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20   they you get to know more about them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22   they seem a little bit but they're still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24   bad but they're bad in a very particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26   way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/626">TS</a>]

00:10:27   yeah and I mean they're not black and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/627">TS</a>]

00:10:28   white right exactly and then and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/628">TS</a>]

00:10:31   you've got the political intrigue at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/631">TS</a>]

00:10:32   home which is interesting one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   things about this about this series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   that's fascinating to me is that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/636">TS</a>]

00:10:38   uh you know to put it in the least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/638">TS</a>]

00:10:41   spoilery terms possible that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   essentially two kind of tracks there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45   the track of the homeworld of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   Vorkosigan which is barri are and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/647">TS</a>]

00:10:50   there's an emperor and there's political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52   imaginations and there's power in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54   sort of a backstory there because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/654">TS</a>]

00:10:55   were cut off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/655">TS</a>]

00:10:56   yeah from culture for a while and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/656">TS</a>]

00:10:57   sort of receded into sort of feudalism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/657">TS</a>]

00:11:00   yeah journalism and then and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   were reconnected but then there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/662">TS</a>]

00:11:05   kind of high adventure on the high seas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/665">TS</a>]

00:11:07   part of it which is this interstellar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   like pirates and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   and-and-and boring sporting planets and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/671">TS</a>]

00:11:15   and mercenaries and i think i'm all in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   that stay tuned and I think part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   you know one of the inspirations i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/679">TS</a>]

00:11:21   i recalled undecided are the the horatio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/681">TS</a>]

00:11:24   hornblower novels which are sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26   Napoleonic war stories following this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/686">TS</a>]

00:11:29   one particular guy who works in British [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/689">TS</a>]

00:11:33   naval officer and as he progresses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35   through the ranks and becomes all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/695">TS</a>]

00:11:36   go through all these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/696">TS</a>]

00:11:37   adventures and interesting encounters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/697">TS</a>]

00:11:41   and over the course of the wars and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43   very follow the progression in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   way that the miles books do which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/705">TS</a>]

00:11:46   that they follow his wife except he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48   got the two sides of his life right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50   that that's an interesting Mona's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/710">TS</a>]

00:11:51   an interesting quirk because it like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/711">TS</a>]

00:11:54   allows you like I found myself actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/714">TS</a>]

00:11:55   really liking what goes on in Bari are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/715">TS</a>]

00:11:58   which I thought originally was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/718">TS</a>]

00:11:59   be kind of a crushing bore and and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   turns out that sometimes I'm like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/721">TS</a>]

00:12:03   think possibly because i read the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/723">TS</a>]

00:12:05   chronologically which not everybody does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/725">TS</a>]

00:12:06   she actually wrote them way out of order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/726">TS</a>]

00:12:08   chronologically but having read them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10   chronologically you start with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   parents and you start on Bari are after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/732">TS</a>]

00:12:15   the you know in that second book and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   felt kind of tied to Bari are at that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19   point so when they get the high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/739">TS</a>]

00:12:20   adventure on the universe that's fun but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   I'm almost like you know I come what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   the political intrigue going on back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/744">TS</a>]

00:12:25   home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/745">TS</a>]

00:12:26   see it's funny because i started with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28   warriors apprentice which is the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30   book with miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/750">TS</a>]

00:12:31   it's a Republican mr. exactly which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33   starts kind of interstellar high space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/753">TS</a>]

00:12:35   travel fund debauchery everything and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/755">TS</a>]

00:12:38   when I watch hurry there's a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40   of debauchery here and there I was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42   to say pg-13 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/762">TS</a>]

00:12:44   yeah she 13 debauchery but I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/764">TS</a>]

00:12:47   sighs there's a certain point in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/767">TS</a>]

00:12:48   series where it takes a turn away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/768">TS</a>]

00:12:50   the interstellar space travel and when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/770">TS</a>]

00:12:52   first realized that I'm like oh no but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/772">TS</a>]

00:12:55   bahria reminds me of robert jordan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/775">TS</a>]

00:12:57   novels I don't want to go there and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/777">TS</a>]

00:13:00   was yeah I i often and i've i've made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/780">TS</a>]

00:13:04   number of people beyond just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/784">TS</a>]

00:13:05   incomparable related people read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/785">TS</a>]

00:13:08   series you made them you made them ice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/788">TS</a>]

00:13:10   trailers down i've written long work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/790">TS</a>]

00:13:13   orange he sort of like a personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15   trainer for books exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/795">TS</a>]

00:13:16   no I recommended to many people and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18   often recommend people start with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20   Warriors apprentice because i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22   more indicative of the series as a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/802">TS</a>]

00:13:25   and that's kind of tough because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/805">TS</a>]

00:13:28   you you learn a lot if you start at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30   beginning there's a lot of foundation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/810">TS</a>]

00:13:31   set that becomes important later on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/811">TS</a>]

00:13:34   there are callbacks to you know bar ER [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/814">TS</a>]

00:13:38   and and charge of honor and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/818">TS</a>]

00:13:39   stuff that you learn in there really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/819">TS</a>]

00:13:41   plays very heavily into area and goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/821">TS</a>]

00:13:43   you don't need to know it but it adds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   you a hole deeper level of understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/825">TS</a>]

00:13:46   if you have read those verses i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48   like Cordelia's I don't think it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50   work as well if i just read shards of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/830">TS</a>]

00:13:51   honor which is the first book but as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53   omnibus with both of them together I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   need I really worked for me for going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/835">TS</a>]

00:13:56   read one you have to read both begin I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/836">TS</a>]

00:13:57   think they really they're two halves of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/837">TS</a>]

00:13:59   the same sort of funny since she didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/839">TS</a>]

00:14:01   write them in order she she wrote part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/841">TS</a>]

00:14:03   of the second one and then gave it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/843">TS</a>]

00:14:05   and wrote the Warriors credits instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07   right and then came back to it much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/847">TS</a>]

00:14:09   later but it as an omnibus edition it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/849">TS</a>]

00:14:12   reads a it reads really well yes and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/852">TS</a>]

00:14:15   some ways I feel like shards of honor to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   meet its feels kind of abrupt as an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   ending as they are at least I when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/859">TS</a>]

00:14:20   read it I felt very much like a the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/860">TS</a>]

00:14:23   story is just getting started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/863">TS</a>]

00:14:24   I think I might have actually read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   as a kid because I when I was in high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28   school I subscribe to analog magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30   and I think it may have actually been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/870">TS</a>]

00:14:31   serialized there because it seems sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   of familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/873">TS</a>]

00:14:34   although there are other sci-fi series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/874">TS</a>]

00:14:35   like like that where the you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/875">TS</a>]

00:14:37   earth cultures have spread out and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   aren't really any aliens or there aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/879">TS</a>]

00:14:41   very many errands you know the the john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/881">TS</a>]

00:14:44   barnes has a serious the the thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46   cultures or million open doors i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48   is the name of the first book in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/888">TS</a>]

00:14:50   series and you know there are some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52   others so it seems kind of familiar but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/892">TS</a>]

00:14:53   you know that that that even that early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/893">TS</a>]

00:14:56   book kept me guessing because i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58   i was going to see a story that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/898">TS</a>]

00:14:59   about the two characters kind of walking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01   across the desert and surviving for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03   whole book and that's like four chapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   and there they did their found something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/905">TS</a>]

00:15:08   that I really love about the way lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/908">TS</a>]

00:15:11   metric visual structures her novels is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13   that with a lot of novels that you read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/913">TS</a>]

00:15:16   you know there's a crises of some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/916">TS</a>]

00:15:18   like all the characters get trapped here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20   or there imprisoned or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/920">TS</a>]

00:15:21   that and you expect a normal lovelier I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/921">TS</a>]

00:15:24   alright that's going to be two-thirds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/924">TS</a>]

00:15:25   the novel and then you know that's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27   to lead all the way up to the end she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/927">TS</a>]

00:15:28   loves putting her character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/928">TS</a>]

00:15:30   as in crazy situations and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/930">TS</a>]

00:15:31   immediately resolving the situation and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   dealing with the aftermath and that kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   of carries on over a bunch of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   books I found that really fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39   because you you expect something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   then you get completely thrown off track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/941">TS</a>]

00:15:42   to a different place and it makes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/942">TS</a>]

00:15:44   reading very enjoyable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46   what say you Scott bar ER or high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/946">TS</a>]

00:15:49   universe adventure or do you come down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   on either side of that I i enjoy both i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/951">TS</a>]

00:15:54   think i would come down on Bari are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/954">TS</a>]

00:15:56   little bit more and it just because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/956">TS</a>]

00:16:00   like all those characters more than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/960">TS</a>]

00:16:02   like the the mercenary band a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/962">TS</a>]

00:16:06   more fleshed out there more more good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/966">TS</a>]

00:16:09   characters i think on Bari are where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   mercenary to come out of there are few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13   but they kind of cycle through them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/973">TS</a>]

00:16:14   bar you've got that complex kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/974">TS</a>]

00:16:16   society and you got the Emperor who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/976">TS</a>]

00:16:19   actually a fascinating you know great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/979">TS</a>]

00:16:22   character the internet that you every I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24   mean how many books do you read or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/984">TS</a>]

00:16:27   movies you see where there's an emperor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/987">TS</a>]

00:16:28   and you know that the absolute power is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30   going to corrupt him and he starts out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/990">TS</a>]

00:16:31   as a kid and you know God he's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   be a monster and one of the interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   things about the Emperor Gregor and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/995">TS</a>]

00:16:38   this series is he's a guy you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/998">TS</a>]

00:16:40   he's got his flaws but but you know I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:43   haven't read through you know memory you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:45   know he they could have gone down that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47   route and there's actually a moment in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   one of the earlier books where he gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:50   bad advice and you're like oh geez it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:52   gonna be bad but no it's it's not about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:54   it's not it's not quite down that path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56   it's more complicated than that right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:58   and you have to have our monstrous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:00   royalty character right there earlier on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:03   right and yes to live them down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   you mean I want to speak to you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07   sort of branching off from from greater [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:08   there which the thing that makes these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:12   books so good and so addictive really to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:16   me in terms of like coming back to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18   and you know not being able to put them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:19   down is the characters and I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:23   is too far away old strong suit is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:26   creating characters who are you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:29   real you know who for who are fleshed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:32   out who are three-dimensional even-even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:34   characters who seem like minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:35   characters will see my caricatures turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:39   out to have a lot of depth and reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:43   to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:43   and even if they're not the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:45   on whom the the spotlight shines so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:47   of the attention focuses on miles and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49   is a fascinating and wonderful character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51   but so many of the supporting cast like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:55   Gregor who is not he's not he's gets you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:58   know push the forefront and a couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1078">TS</a>]

00:17:59   the stories but a lot of he only appears [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:01   maybe in a few scenes but he there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:04   something about so many of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:05   characters that when they show up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:06   further down the road you always you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:09   have a kind of us a fond memory of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   and you're glad to see them and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:14   she said at one point something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:15   people always you know we're asking her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   every time you put out book but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:20   about this character and what about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:21   case you know if I put in all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:22   characters that people want to see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:24   book would be like a thousand pages walk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26   right I'm meanwhile at the polar station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:29   on Bari our guy that you had before is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:32   cleaning out of terrain that got my job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:35   was on saying he's gonna favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:39   character they all have such unique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   devilishly fun voices though you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:44   mean as you said even the minor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:45   characters there on pick another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:48   onscreen for maybe a couple pages and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:51   you know exactly who they are that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:52   know exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:53   there's never any dialogue conversation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:54   between like miles and one of the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56   characters that sounds like it's if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:59   close your eyes you couldn't tell which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:01   person was speaking you know that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:04   all have very distinct characteristics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   if you read a line of dialogue from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   book without telling you who it is i bet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10   it would be much easier to figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   which character was speaking than say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:13   from another non for goes again novel it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:17   sure helps that that you have this many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   books to tell the story because you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   get to sort of weave them in and out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23   they do feel sort of like old friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:24   after a while they don't need watching a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   TV show when you're right here in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:27   character comes back here like that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29   like yeah right right drain cleaner yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:31   you don't need six months you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   you know youyou 66 chapters with the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:36   you can you can drop in here and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   there and and and you know whether it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:40   Miles poor cousin eivin I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:45   because i love is wonderful is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47   charming and and does terry has terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:50   things done to him by miles because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52   family and even though he knows he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:53   going to get in trouble and 10 miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:56   parents who you know obviously carry two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:57   books all on their own Gregory the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   Emperor and then in the in the mercenary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01   fleet you've got a couple characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:02   there too or who are who actually some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:05   of whom seemed initially to be not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07   important who this is this is a cannon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09   fodder character who ends up becoming an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11   incredibly important character later on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   so so there's there's lots of there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:16   lots of that although when you talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:19   about really well-defined characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:20   let's talk first about the character of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   miles because miles is the one character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:26   who he died I guess buddy consistent or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:30   is he just kind of outrageous and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:33   like in later books in later books he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35   gets some self-awareness but early on he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   just is always a mess he's all over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39   place well I mean my favorite phrase to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:41   describe him and I can't remember which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:43   which character others it might be Ivan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45   my free you know every you cannot think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:48   of them without the game as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:49   hyperactive little get which to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:52   suggests totally totally sums him up in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:55   that you know we talked about all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   other characters but in many ways the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59   other characters are to a certain extent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:00   defined by their interactions with milas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:03   like you some way dt bangs around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:06   bounces off of them and changes them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:07   ways am and he really is he's them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:10   some ways and this will be you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   maybe perhaps somewhat of an ironic turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14   of phrase he's larger than life and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:17   intentionally so I mean I think and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:19   don't know if anybody has ever read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:21   Dorothy stairs Lord Peter Wimsey novels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:25   but i believe this is a classic 1930s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:28   detective series are about a nobleman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:31   who solves mysteries and it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:33   nineteen-thirties Scott metrics while I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   mean it has a new york [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:36   yes is actually written in the nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38   thirties I'm a great and incidentally a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   great series and and lord peter is I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:43   believe one of the inspirations for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:44   miles and that he's kind of he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:47   nobleman are idle rich character who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   solves mysteries very smart man but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:52   looks deceptively like everyone kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:54   pass him off as a oh he's just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:57   a fluffy guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:58   I was going to mention i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   miles is my least favorite character in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:03   this series just because he annoys me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05   more often than not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07   yeah bye I was gonna say the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:10   I so good so good for you could mistake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:13   it's good to be your you're nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:14   provocative or more or less polite to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16   it's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:17   well there you go i 5 it like especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   the way he treats I've been always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:20   annoys me because I've it is not doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22   anything wrong he always does with miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:23   s him to do but miles is always fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:26   nasty to him in his in inner monologue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:29   which i think is not for a nice he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:32   doesn't run you might just seem to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:33   to grow up I mean you've read it as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:35   as I have an in-memory actually in many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:37   ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:38   dan was pointing out that the synopsis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40   of that book is really miles its 1330 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   hits back i love that is my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:45   long time and and eat there is a sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:49   that that I'm you know he has to grow up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   a little bit and and not be doing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:54   the stupid stuff that he did when he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:55   in his twenties in these other books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:57   right i mean he does he get some depth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1377">TS</a>]

00:22:59   he grows some depth because he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1379">TS</a>]

00:23:02   some complications that make him not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04   a fantastic a person as as he used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:07   and he continues to grow throughout the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   series one of the things i like now you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:11   still didn't like him in memory so now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:12   didn't really like it maybe only come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14   the next 18 books and actually had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:17   baby that maybe you'll find this helpful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:18   I started thinking and and horatio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:21   hornblower is the perfect connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:23   here because Captain Kirk was based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   Horatio Hornblower to and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   scenes especially when miles is with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:28   mercenary fleet where I can't help but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1408">TS</a>]

00:23:30   thinking of him as Captain Kirk from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:32   original star trek from then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:33   dynamic I've got a I've got a crazy idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:36   but it just might work and he's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38   everybody else is looking around like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:39   what do you mean corbomite that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41   made-up thing are you telling the alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43   captain that we have a corporate my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:44   device that's going to destroy a ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:45   and curse like I got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:48   nobody worried and my and miles that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:52   think maybe more than any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:53   character in any other book I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:54   read reminded me of that classic which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:57   my favorite TV show is a kid Captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59   Kirk that classic kind of roguish but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:02   smart but in a weird kind of way and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:05   men and a loose cannon he's kind of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:08   kind of the doctor to write like to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   certain extent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12   I don't know I don't know about that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14   really i think i think there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:15   similarities between those two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:16   characters in terms of they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   extremely smart he's Harry Potter the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20   doctor and Captain Kirk well what he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:23   he's really smart he's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:24   hyperactive you know he's always got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26   plan got an idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:28   I mean you know and everybody else is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:31   sort of caught up in his whirlwind right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33   there there's an element of that too it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35   to him that really it depends on point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:37   of view I think because i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   really interesting in the first couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:40   novels were basically entirely centered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:43   around miles and no one else really gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:44   any chance to speak point of view and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:47   get to hear his inner monologue all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   damn time whereas in the later books we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   start getting other characters as they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:54   see miles and as they see the situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:55   there's a couple like mike wynn yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:59   right the the captain of the of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   fleet and his his one-time girlfriend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03   got a minor minor spoilers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:06   oh no she she she has a very particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:09   view and she's got a lot of respect and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   love for him but boy when you see him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   through her icy easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15   he's a he's a mess and he's a problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17   and yeah you know he ruins things right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:20   well I think it really depends the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:21   characterization depending on whose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:24   point of view you're paying attention to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:25   because I mean you get to the later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:27   books and one of one of the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:28   causes miles to continue say unpack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:31   ok I have to unpack because all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33   sudden were not hearing miles you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:36   for your conscience and steps that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   exactly right which will hear in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   earlier books because we get to see all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   of his stream of consciousness but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:43   the later books were not following him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   what are you talking exactly where is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   confused as he is what did you not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49   my captain kirk language you not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:51   Captain Kirk either is he kind of a jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:52   too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:53   well I really think about a captain kirk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   is kind of a jerk but i do like Captain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:57   Kirk I don't know why I just miles just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:00   rubs me the wrong way and maybe in later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:03   novels he will rub me the right way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:05   which doesn't sound nice but I see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:07   you're saying know that that it anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09   okay it is not yeah a destructive force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11   yes and he certainly is a perfect plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:15   device to drive forward a story because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:18   he just doesn't stop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:19   and it would he is a very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   character and I I don't hate him but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:24   just think that he isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:25   if he were real I would not want to know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   why and I think i agree with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:30   certainly don't know if Miles Vorkosigan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   pull this starship into my space station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   I'd be like I got the thing i'm taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   my leave now I'm going into the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38   side of the galaxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:39   I'll be back if you're still alive I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:41   be back in a few years but goodbye good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   luck with with this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:44   what well the interesting thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:46   miles is that that combination of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:50   fact that he is brilliant and he is a UH [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:53   a loose cannon but he's also got Dan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:57   alluded to it two at a physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59   disability he he is short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:03   he's like five feet tall in a in a in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:06   UH culture back on Bari are that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   basically a aborted or killed all of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:13   children or babies that showed any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15   physical deformity when they were in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:16   their feudal period so he is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:19   he's alive because his mother basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21   said what we're going to save him but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:24   is he is unlike everybody else in his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26   culture and they all look down on him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28   and then he's also taken for granted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   really even out in the wider world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32   because he is he's kind of a hunchback [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:35   and he's short and although his he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   medical procedures that make him you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39   know slightly taller overtime but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:40   also he's also extremely fragile right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:43   he can't always got a little brown this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:44   weekend is a giant head and also have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:48   fight anybody is not physically imposing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   person that has become the first book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52   starts with him basically getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:53   drummed out of the military military [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:56   which is his you know he's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   live up to his father who is this great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   soldier like the ideal soldier so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   possibly going so he goes over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:03   obstacle course knowing that when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   jumps down the other side is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:06   shatter both the bones and all the bones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   in his legs and and he does thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:09   for mentioning his grandfather who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:11   yet another great minor character that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:13   is somewhat questionable economic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:16   forecast yes do you like him do you not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18   like him but he is fascinating character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20   I don't I really quite he is and any is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22   consistent right i mean you've actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24   later find out more things about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:25   terrible he terrible things he did at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:27   one point when miles was young yes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:30   he's at some point also not I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   hehe has depth to him after on iPod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:35   miles how to ride a horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:36   yeah I find it fascinating i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:37   how much he's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:38   first two books pre miles because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:41   still haven't read those too but even I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:42   mean he's barely in the first book is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44   barrier yeah he's barely in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   book but you still get a tremendous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:47   sense of the characters one how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:50   important yet is that where this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52   two miles and has whole like heritage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54   and everything like he is often held up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:57   as that ideal like both his father and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   his grandfather is that ideal that miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:00   has do like basically the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:03   entire like series is to a certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:04   extent miles trying to live up to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06   is your grandfather both of them to both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08   his father and his grandfather and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   yet he can't in the way that they you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:13   know he can't follow their footsteps but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1753">TS</a>]

00:29:16   he tried he does try to make his mark in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   his own way again just rides too long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:20   yeah cool went Wow and his grandfather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:24   was on a horse so that makes it hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26   follow double stride nobody he learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:29   how to how to how to ride a horse and no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31   the grandfather is a very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:32   character and there's that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:33   feudalism thing to worry the count goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35   again I'm using side note that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:37   counts on Barry are were named for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   because they were accounts at one point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   that I that kills me that they would I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:43   thought that was for their part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:44   bureaucracy and the account so no not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:47   like counts back on earth where there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:48   was just the accountants and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50   there's Lord for code again and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:51   when his grandfather dies his father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   becomes Lordan or becomes count and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:55   becomes Lord for clothes again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1795">TS</a>]

00:29:57   yes and there's a whole honor system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59   there which is interesting and then when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01   he goes out in the wider wider galaxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   they don't really get the whole honor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   system which is fascinating to and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07   because I word is 4 ko's again what huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:10   right i mean he's kind of almost a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:11   fantasy character to ascertain exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13   talking science fiction units that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   great way to look at absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17   well that's why like I was initially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:18   wary of the whole bar ER section because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:21   it's kind of like I don't know about fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23   only got a nineteenth-century that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25   really good yeah but it's a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27   book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:28   no but all the thing is the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:29   though well yeah I haven't read i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   haven't read those books but I it's on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:33   my list after i created the end but no I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:36   mean once once we get back to yes i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:38   once we get back to our ER with miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:43   I like it took me about two chapters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:46   then I was completely sold where you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:49   you get this you get the greater sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:50   like initially you have the weariness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   ok you don't like feudal worlds with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:55   high technology this is going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   strange but there's a there's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59   short stories about the mountains of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:00   mourning i think is better the first the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:03   first short story and that one you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   again I went into it really kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   skeptical or it's like okay this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:08   completely different this is very back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1868">TS</a>]

00:31:11   world as opposed to the hijinks that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:13   have been reading in in four game and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15   stuff like that right beside in space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   and it's not in the big city with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   spaceport it's like out in the mountains [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:20   there are no checks with healthy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:22   which is in his little Eiffel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:24   there's no battery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:25   yes there is no debashree whatsoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   night but maybe a murderer but not even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   running water basically this yeah caves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:32   well it gives it gives you a very kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   of Little House on the Prairie type feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:35   which but again you know you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:38   yourself being completely in trapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:40   with these characters where even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42   I mean this short story can't be more I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   don't read it on on ibooks so I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   imagine it's that long a story but even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:50   with the limited page count these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52   characters are wildly vivid and have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   great story to tell and you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   completely enraptured in them and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   get the the sense to about what miles is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   up against because then that is a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02   about and infanticide in it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:05   about that barrier and culture that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:07   know by all rights should have as his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:10   grandfather would have advocated should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12   have killed miles when he was born so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:15   that he couldn't pass on his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17   mutation which he actually doesn't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   as i'd like to point out is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:20   genetically find it was just an injured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:22   utero complication commonality x-rite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:27   yep that's true attempted assassination [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:29   not not a mutant it okay I'm gonna fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:31   off the spoiler warning now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:34   not the spoiler spoiler flag on fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:37   laughter spoiler horn because i wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:39   to mention one of the interesting things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:41   that happens midway through the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:42   mom which is the fact that there's a so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:47   miles is live living a double life he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:50   Admiral Naismith and he is Lord for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:55   coach again right i think it starts off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   by accident people and yeah but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   becomes useful and so that the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   Secret Service says yeah we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:02   find you sort of and you're gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   this so he's leading a double life it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   seems a little implausible and then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   get to mirror dance right we're all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:11   sudden he he's he's in the same place at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:14   the same time everybody's gonna start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:15   putting it together and you think well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   miles how are you going to get out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:18   this one it's finally going to collapse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:19   on you accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   oh he does have a double bond o has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:24   raised by komaram terrorists to replace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:27   them in some crazy scheme to depose the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:30   Emperor and what I love about all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:33   that is that it was your standard TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:36   response to that would be that you kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:38   the twin right right at the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:40   story right and instead there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:43   whole books with the twin immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   following right Martin becomes a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:48   important character and I fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50   character as well so how great how great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:53   is that that they that she went down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   this kind of crazy premier dance I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   that book because it is so crazy that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:58   it's like ok they're gonna deal with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00   opened his buddies got a real double and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   now the double is being him and now his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   double is being his double and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:05   don't realize for a while that it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2045">TS</a>]

00:34:07   same guy and it's been how it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:10   I couldn't believe it because it is such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:13   a vivid departure stylistically because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15   that's like a footrace farcical well and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:18   it becomes all moved to the certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:19   point maintaining that double identity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21   you know despite the fact that it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   like oh by the skin of their teeth right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   they managed to maintain it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   almost immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29   that's undone in the beginning of memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31   when you know basically miles that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:35   scene that is horrific and yet kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37   funny at the same time miles basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:40   eat i want to exactly shoot himself in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:42   the foot but maybe shoot someone else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:45   chop somebody's late I mean what kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:48   accident or who hasn't done that whoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:51   does not mean and all the sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   everything that you've worked so hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55   maintain this one's a life is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   pull the rug out basically pulled out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:59   from under it but it's it's only pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   out from under him because he lies about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:04   well yes and again because he's a jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:05   like yes it is entirely flawed character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:08   so here it is mirrored dance the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:11   where we meet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:12   no brothers-in-arms brothers-in-arms the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:13   book where we meet him and that's in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   england right that's on earth router [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   yeah mirror dance is the book where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19   miles is killed in action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21   yes it on ice lost yes and against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:25   because my demonstration against mirror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:28   dance and memory are kind of tight FRA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   memory and a silly campaign which most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   of you have not read i love this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34   campaign that brothers-in-arms mirror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36   dance memory that those three are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38   great because because you you Haley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:41   miles off the stage and bringing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:42   clone there's the crazy clone kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   driving gets locked in a closet yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:46   making hostage Yeah Yeah right and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   when they don't kill me don't kill mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:51   his clone and in fact mark becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53   vitally important because the only miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:56   that's active at that moment because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58   other miles has been killed frozen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:01   lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:01   yes that's the first time you really get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03   more sleep Cordelia and in in Bari are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:08   not in the first two books like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   really get a chance to see miles as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   parents learned how important her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   his parents were offering you get to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   what happens if miles was brought up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:17   without his parents i'm here like he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:20   bad thing I i admit i'm actually one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22   the things that disappoints me about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:23   series is that after the first two books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:24   there isn't more of his parents because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:27   his parents are fascinating characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:29   on their own right and they and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:31   carried a couple of books over you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33   but but miles is such a larger-than-life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35   kind of characters not really room in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:37   some ways right meds as major characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:39   but they do play very important parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:40   there they play very important parts in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:42   a couple at least one of the other books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44   she can always go back home and write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:47   something that inserts in between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:48   she's talked about it yeah but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:52   that hole that's the point where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:55   shifts and again it's appropriate sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:56   of that that's my leading 30 it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:57   major turning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:58   point and it the mirror dance sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:01   inform and and memory which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:02   aftermath is Wren was saying before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:04   know of this terrible sort of a huge the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:07   sort of our comes to end with memory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   and in starting in memory the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11   identity miles is hold identity gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:14   shifted you know with the the wood the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:16   Admiral Naismith persona basically you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18   know consigned to the dustbin in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:20   ways and that's sort of carried forward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:24   from there as he and his new role you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:27   know sort of adapts to well-being doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:30   back on Bari or in part of the barrio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:31   culture in many ways i gotta say again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:34   with the transition to bear when I first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:36   found out what memory was about because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:38   i couldn't get it because it was only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:39   one with this group is always like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   sure yeah it's like there's ok i'll read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:44   that I'll read the paragraph on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:45   wikipedia and then go to the next book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47   and i start i get a chapter into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:50   next book I'm kind of horrified and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   like wait no no names with what's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:55   on I can't handle it can you can you put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   no I see you guys get the book i was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59   and that's what happens when you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:01   pay for right now it's just a lesson and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:05   it was and it was and I went immediately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07   after reading about a chapter I was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09   okay I can't do this so I went and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11   found it on web scription or rather i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13   had Dan find it for me on web scription [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:15   and then downloaded it and read it all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:17   will tell you a funny story my cousin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19   recommended to this to me had read all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21   of them and somehow had missed memory i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   guess and then later found it oh my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:26   for causing a book i haven't read and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:27   went in and she's like now it's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29   favorite is i love it but it's like at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:30   the time it was like yeah i know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   missed something but I couldn't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   figure out things different memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:37   memory and you know nice kind of a that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:40   title right because miles has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42   serious kind of aftermath of his because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:46   happy somebody's legs having died and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48   been frozen and then misplaced in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:49   FedEx interstellar fedex system happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:53   it does you know you don't fill out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   bill right and it goes to some crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:56   planet some crazy crazy planet so some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2336">TS</a>]

00:39:00   so there's that and then there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:03   whole this this other minor character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   who's Simon ilion excitement and he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:08   a malfunctioning memory chip of his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:11   and chip students not inside my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13   side and I always takes with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15   yeah and and that has huge ramifications [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   for everything that's happening barrier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   and what miles is good for any more and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21   and yeah 30 hits back but it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   great because at that point you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:24   invested so much in the series that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2364">TS</a>]

00:39:26   scene changes in like the format of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:29   series is exciting and it's such an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:32   orthogonal change in some ways right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:33   because you kind of feel like alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:35   Myles got sidetracked he didn't get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:36   go into the military so we sort of goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   off on his arm and informs his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40   mercenary group and then it's also sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   of working his way up through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   security forces at the same time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   think oh well you know so it's natural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:47   progression might be someday he'll end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   up in charge of the security forces or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:50   whatever and then all the sudden that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:52   takes like a left turn gets kicked out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54   right any kind of you know being miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:57   figures out a loophole and ona and an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:00   opening somewhere for handwriting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:01   then gets offered the job and doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03   take it right but anyways to she sings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:07   she zigs when you think right you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09   brush heads AG which is great again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11   excited that he is he is find something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:13   he finds his calling in life I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:15   finally despite all these sort of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17   know great opportunities he's taken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:18   along the way these jobs i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:20   ultimately he finds the position that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:23   that he is perfectly suited for which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25   the sort of official troublemaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:28   that's true and i did like memory but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   thought that it was a like within you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:33   know three chapters of reading it I knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35   who did it and I knew what was gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:38   happen at the end so i was little i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:41   it's definitely more straightforward a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43   mystery than some of the other things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45   like especially something off mirrored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:46   and there was a red herring you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   there was it was sort of an A or B or C [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:50   I guess there may be a couple red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52   herrings right at the same time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:55   thought it was so obvious that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:56   couldn't have been the answer and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:57   actually was the ah that's that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59   she was going to be out so and then i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:02   guess i guess to me the plot was not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04   central part that interact much out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06   character it's about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:07   introducing himself back to barrio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:09   that's my guess is Scott Scott McNulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:14   the last Judge Scott McNulty has ruled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:17   all right i'll be going out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:19   ok here's what I'm gonna do I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2479">TS</a>]

00:41:21   I'm gonna fire off the all clear because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:24   we have a little bit more time but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:27   wanted to I wanted to bring back a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:30   things for people who are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:31   necessarily indoctrinated with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:32   entire for cosine series 11 order of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:36   business is the reading order which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:37   wanted to ask everybody about and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:40   especially Dan who's so well-versed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:41   this and ran who did it who did it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   different order any idea about how would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:47   you advise people read this series where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   do you start if you haven't read any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   these books and you're intrigued by what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:52   we've said where do you start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:54   if you're already intrigued and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   i think i said i recommend the wordpress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   a lot of people that's because sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2518">TS</a>]

00:41:59   I have you know it's difficult to sell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01   people on it and definitely more of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   adventure ebook and I think it a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05   people get into it faster that way but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:06   you know if you're already kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:08   intrigued and looking at try it out I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:09   say start at the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:10   Cordelia's honor de correos on art of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12   honor whatever you can find them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14   start and go through chronologically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:15   because i think you get much more out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:18   it reading everything in order and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:19   includes there are three or four short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:22   stories that are sort of sprinkled in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:23   between but comet specific places and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:26   it's important I think to read them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   those specific places because they play [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   very heavily into what some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   subsequent stories are about and when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   read it unfortunately i tried to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36   do that because the short stories have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   been collected into a volume called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   borders of infinity which is also the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   name of one of the short stories in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   volume which is confusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46   I'm gonna need a shirt yes and in fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48   to make it more confusing that short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:50   story collection has a framing story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52   that that connects those three short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:53   stories which is of miles in a hospital [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:56   bed sort of relating these stories to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   Simon alien and but the problem same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:01   time solving a mystery there is a plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03   to the framing story however it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:06   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:06   I think it's very hard to find that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:07   short story collection as it is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   the short stories have now been folded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   into the omnibuses in the correct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:13   chronological ride just do that you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   miss out on that famous story but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:16   honestly it's not so important that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:17   will play on top of that the framing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19   story actually come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:20   after brothers-in-arms I mean yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:23   serious it's very to hear so I tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   read them jumping back and forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:26   literally like I would put down one book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:27   alright let me read this starts right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   ok let me go to this other book alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:30   let me go back to the short wait but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:31   had start being the shortest here this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33   is why the Omnibus collection is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:35   probably the best idea I was highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:36   recommend the emphasis on a because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38   they're easy to find because they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:41   things in the correct order and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   because i don't think you can get a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:44   of other than the ebook format i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   think you can get a lot of the single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   volumes in print and and ran you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:52   you've read them and in i skipped over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:54   the initial i skipped over the initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:55   to but apart from that I've read them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   chronological order as best as I could I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2637">TS</a>]

00:44:00   short stories I will reiterate are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:03   really important and there are two books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:05   I think either ethan of athos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:07   calling free which are not miles centric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:12   and of the latter one falling free is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:15   not even characters we know centric [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17   because it's set 200 years in the past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:18   and those two initially seemed like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:21   those are easy ones to skip over because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   they don't directly relate to the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   but falling free really focuses on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27   something that's going to happen in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29   brunette what because that is a simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31   diplomatic diplomatic immunity and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33   that's I feel like that's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:34   important for diplomatic i have not read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:37   forward yes I know why I'm shred I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:41   40 second book that Dan Morgan has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43   which I really hilarious did it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:46   well so i'll say this i wish i hadn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   read ethan of athos because it's crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   it's it's a little weird but I but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:53   the same time I argue that boy it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:56   backstory to to him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58   yeah a little bit of Quinn Quinn which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:01   think well I think it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:02   because up until then we only know her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:05   as kind of a nameless face you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:07   literally that's what I was trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:11   vague since we don't have to spoil her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:13   on but no I mean yes that's right those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:17   who have been reading will get matchup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:19   anyway um yeah I i read it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:22   chronological order which I highly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:23   highly recommend because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:25   everything makes sense to me she built a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:28   following for these books and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:29   decided she would dive back into parts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   of the storyline and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:32   and so in the major points and 10 miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:35   is life seemed to appear sort of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:36   order but there are other pieces that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38   she went kind of went back with but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   you're just discovering it now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:41   you know it makes more sense to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:44   in that in the order of miles as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46   timeline and not in the order that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:48   wrote them there are some quirks and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:50   were talking about this the other day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:51   that that the sea gardens or this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:53   of mystery a group of humans and who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:56   have their their empire and they're kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:58   of scary under the baddies and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:00   there's a book called see ganda where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:01   they go to see God and miles hasn't been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   yet adventures as he does and one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:07   funny things about it is I read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:08   meant that they appear again in one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:11   the short stories and the view of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   is very different in that because it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   obviously written well before she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17   decided to write a novel about who they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19   are and what their culture is so it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:21   little bit that's one the one seam where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23   I really noticed it but otherwise i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25   i'm really happy to have been able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:27   follow miles in his life and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29   progression instead of hopping around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:32   which i think would be confusion cryo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:37   burn the new book in the series comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:42   with a CD and one of the funny things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:46   about the publisher is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:47   publisher is declared that as long as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49   you don't sell it you are free to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51   distribute the CD any way you see fit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53   so of course people have posted on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55   internet and it's legal and as a result [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:58   essentially they have given away every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:01   book in the series except for memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03   which we all just raped about so you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:06   going to buy that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:07   so this is this is the good news here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:10   right is that if if what we've said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:11   interests you you actually can go out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:14   and get these books in epub or prc2 you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:19   can get you whatever too much every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:20   format or ml yeah and put it on whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:25   device you one if you want to do the eep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:26   the e-reader thing the Scott McNulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:29   thing i should say i think that election [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31   even includes a the Vorkosigan companion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:35   it just does which I actually own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:37   hardcover copy of which includes much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2857">TS</a>]

00:47:38   essays and interesting i am in total [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   total nerd i actually printed them all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:43   out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:44   because you're well known to taste for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:47   e-books yes exactly you do lose lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2867">TS</a>]

00:47:50   track of the fact of how long they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:52   you just you know criminals they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:54   different perspective changes the stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   that's right that's kinda like yeah why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:59   it's scott said that he read a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:01   monroe I actually read all of them up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:04   memory in a row with no other books that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:07   i read and then I paused and said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09   know i got i gotta read the dream of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:10   perpetual motion i gotta rehabbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   safely in a science fictional universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   which we covered in a previous podcast i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:15   gotta read some other stuff going to mix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   it up take a little break for miles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:18   before I'm going on a trip i'll probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:20   jump back in but it was kind of nice to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22   take a little break but it was so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:23   fun to read whatever that is eight books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:25   all in a row with that kind of sprawling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27   saga of the end i love long series and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:31   think that's part of what got me really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:32   into it was I just enjoy seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2912">TS</a>]

00:48:34   characters develop over a long period of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   time ya in that sort of epic scale same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:39   reason I like TV shows i think that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:40   you get a kind of depth that you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:42   necessarily get in a movie or in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   one-shot and so that's that's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:47   fun and it's it's nice to feel rewarded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:49   as a reader when there are references to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:52   things occasionally an oblique ones to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:55   things that have happened before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:56   think ah I get that I get that that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:59   joke but it's nice it's a nice feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:02   yeah yeah and I was intimidated when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:06   saw those things on Hugo list and kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:08   of series and all that but it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10   good it's a lot of fun and so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:11   people shouldn't be should be terrified [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13   by the fact that it's a series and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:14   can you know if you read that first on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:17   bus and then maybe the you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   that first book with Myles I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   you're going to find that it's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:22   fun and and they are self-contained in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24   the sense that you know it's not as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:25   they're it's not like those george RR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   martin books the the game of thrones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29   which I love but they have no ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   they just continued interest cap really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:34   just started like I have no idea who it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   was characters are I'm going on i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:38   two or three of those in a row and again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2978">TS</a>]

00:49:39   you could not even really to other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:40   the fact that there's kind of a climax [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:42   in a series of cliffhangers you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:43   really tell it's one long story as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45   opposed to being episodes in this yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47   one and that's what this that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:49   these are which means that you shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:50   feel to get back to another topic of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   many of our podcast that the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54   what you're you get you got ripped off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:56   you get to the end and you gotta buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:57   next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:58   to find out what happens there are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2998">TS</a>]

00:49:59   the case at all with the Vorkosigan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:01   novels and that's nice because i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:03   it means that you can try them out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:04   without fear that you're going to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:05   the shaft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:06   well she even said I mean she wrote a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   lot of these so that they could be easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10   jumping in points for people who had no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:13   prior knowledge of what throwing on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   any order I think you could probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:16   appreciate some of them not necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:19   all of them but some of them you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:21   probably definitely excel when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:23   presented a logical order of Athos haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3023">TS</a>]

00:50:26   yes if you ever asked yourself what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   would happen if men invented a device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:32   that would allow them to have children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:34   without the participation of women and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:37   create an all-male society if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   ever wondered if there could be a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   science-fiction novel that accepted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:43   these gender roles ethan of athos is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:45   sadly not that novel because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:48   very good i will say that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:49   technology which plays a major part in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:51   much of the red miles three-story only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:54   is it ended and in much of barrios [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   development you know that's a big deal i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   think that is one of her intriguing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   like we were talking about earlier i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:01   think scott was saying it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03   that kind of floats underneath the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:04   surface there she doesn't necessarily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   draw a lot of attention to think how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08   important it would be if we invented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:10   this thing all right but it plays a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12   of important parts and gets you to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:13   about how what would the impact of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:16   particular technology if he if women [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   didn't need to carry fetuses to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   terminate you could just stick them in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   in a metal box and debate okay yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:25   nothing but trouble nothing but trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:28   LT and we i was thinking what else have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   we have we not talked about that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:32   should make sure to get on my thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:34   I I thought it was a we didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   talk about the difference between the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   cultures of again one of things i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   about the John Barnes thousand cultures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:41   those are actually sore earth cultures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:44   transplanted to other planets hear what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46   you've got is these cultures that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:47   evolved over time on these different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   planets based on the that the politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:52   and the the movement of the two of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:53   technology which i really like the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55   that there are back waters and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:56   there's bits of territory that can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:59   you know that that you know the politics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:02   are of the universe not just a bar but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   of the universe and the galaxies are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:05   very interesting and because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:07   structure of the you've got jump points [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:09   and some places are back waters in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:10   places are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:11   our transfer points but the culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:14   especially of the baton my beta colony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:18   which is where miles is mom is from and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   a bar ER where his dad is from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   fascinating is the bait the bait ins are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24   on one level you think well they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:27   kinda more like us and then you realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:28   they're really matter where they are the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:31   day and the bar ends are both polar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:34   opposites of kind of each other and are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36   headed in different directions from our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:38   kind of culture modern culture which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:41   fascinating so you've got this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3161">TS</a>]

00:52:42   regression and this strange progression [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:45   and I I think that's kind of fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:47   look at any kind of as a liberal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:49   conservative kind of you but it goes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51   goes wildly more on tonight's not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:54   that simple yeah no not not at all well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:56   this book is not about black and white [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:58   right there there you know the buttons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:00   are kind of hedonistic and they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:01   have it all their babies are carried in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03   these in these metal boxes and and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:06   are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:06   yeah they're wild and crazy and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:08   got a third gender is walking around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10   and then the bar yarns are are these you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:13   know sort of Russian serious slovak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:17   Russian kind of people in there in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:19   there feudalism in the background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:21   they've got their kind of low slung [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:22   buildings and there's hardscrabble and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24   you know cities and and they've lived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:27   for a couple hundred years to completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:30   cut off and and they're kind of grumpy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   about this new technology which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34   really interesting well you also look at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:35   the kind of the anarchists Jackson's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37   hole which i think is a nice kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39   third-party to the right right where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   have you know this series of releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   satellites its plant materials [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45   yeah its most yeah it's berenis the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:48   Baron different forbear yeah and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:52   something they're all ya around charges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:54   you know black market weapons and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:57   eat illegal genetic trades the where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59   can get anything to them yes the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   isolated for this universe and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:02   you've got the seat again there who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:04   this you know strange there the genetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:06   engineers and it's this incredibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08   complicated culture that i would imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:09   it reminded me of a lot of stories about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:12   sort of the mystery of the Orient when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:14   people when Western explorers went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   China or Japan and never like what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18   hell is going on I don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:19   anything that these people doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:20   it's like that it's almost like hard to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:23   complexity of the culture from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:24   outside and gradually kind of figuring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:26   out but it's it's you know and the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:28   that they're all genetically engineered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30   to meet higher culture is about genetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:31   engineering in a way that is in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:34   ways completely outrageous to the extent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   they take it and then again there's sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:37   of not necessarily judgments about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:40   the the culture is good or bad there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   lot of shades of grey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:43   well and then you throw in you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:45   know you guys most of you have not read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:46   kumar but like either you get you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48   hints of the commands early in some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50   the earlier brace right and who they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52   which is basically a culture that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54   know in so many ways was oppressed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:55   and conquer they conquered by today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:57   because they are there like Poland there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   like in the way of everybody's but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:00   get a little more this goal you get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02   lot of a little more interest in them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:05   starting tomorrow and more background on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07   what the whole planet and what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:08   whole culture is like which is also very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   interesting in its own way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   given the miles his father as is known [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:13   as the butcher of kumar and then and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15   marco was raised by tomorrow and let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   tell you didn't go to I gonna get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:22   nickname yeah that's a bad sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   yes anything else we should talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26   about the Vorkosigan saga that something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:29   that we haven't mentioned in the time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31   would like to connect with Embry plug [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:32   for one of her other books were just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:35   a John McNulty's again candy i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:38   allow it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:38   alright I think she has written another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:42   I another's fantasy series at least the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:46   first two books which are quite good the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48   cursor Challon and if you're interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:52   in fantasy and sort of an interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   take and again i think was kind of cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56   is that she takes these these books are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:58   from my an interesting perspective the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:00   characters are very interesting so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   would i would recommend the cursor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:03   Chilean and its follow-up the paladin of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:05   souls both of which are more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07   fantasy kind of fantasy is that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:08   like a system like magic or swords or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:11   dragons yeah there's a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:12   magic but I think again what's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14   interesting is the culture America's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16   this one is pinned largely on there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   universe of with five gods and she sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   of said that her idea was to write five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:24   books each of which represents one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:26   these five gods or is told the point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   view of a character who's in some way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:29   somatically linked to one of the gods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:32   and she has finished three of them I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:34   thought the first you were quite good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3394">TS</a>]

00:56:35   the third one lightbulb it for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:36   and she said well I keep thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   the fourth and fifth but she hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:39   quite nailed down with what they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:41   about yet but i think she will she will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:42   get them at some point Scott ren you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:44   have any any other thoughts about for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:47   coast again looks great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:49   they're good yeah there they are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:51   even though i don't like the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:52   character enjoy the books now that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54   endorsement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:55   yes it is a lot of fun and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:57   there's something to be said for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:58   that's the same reason i read a I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:00   read a bunch of the jack mcdevitt sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02   which is you know net not gonna win any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:04   awards for pros styling but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:07   interstellar spaceship mystery kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaehdO0/3427">TS</a>]

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