PodSearch

The Incomparable

29: Magic Fridge

 

00:00:00   controllable contest after sold 29-20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/0">TS</a>]

00:00:09   LMAO welcome back to the uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/9">TS</a>]

00:00:11   podcast i am your host Daniel one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/11">TS</a>]

00:00:14   sitting in for Jason's now who for once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/14">TS</a>]

00:00:17   has not read the book that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/17">TS</a>]

00:00:18   subject of our talk tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/18">TS</a>]

00:00:20   now who is illiterate anyways i'm joined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/20">TS</a>]

00:00:25   by a gallery of rogues as you might say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/25">TS</a>]

00:00:27   we have Scott McNulty I Scott hello and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/27">TS</a>]

00:00:32   John siracusa hi John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34   hello everybody and the three of us are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/34">TS</a>]

00:00:37   here convening this sort of ad hoc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39   meeting at the book club to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41   Patrick Rothfuss 'as debut fantasy novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/41">TS</a>]

00:00:45   from 2007 so you know where we're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/45">TS</a>]

00:00:47   little bit behind time I guess it's hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   off the presses the name of the wind and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/49">TS</a>]

00:00:54   part of the reason we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/54">TS</a>]

00:00:54   it now is that the books sequel The Wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/54">TS</a>]

00:00:57   Man's Fear just came out what two weeks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/57">TS</a>]

00:00:59   ago or so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/59">TS</a>]

00:01:01   alright so we're we're here to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/61">TS</a>]

00:01:02   wet your appetite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/62">TS</a>]

00:01:05   if you have not read this series well be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/65">TS</a>]

00:01:09   aware that we are going to have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11   spoilers from the first book we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/71">TS</a>]

00:01:12   to try to avoid spoilers from the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/72">TS</a>]

00:01:14   book we haven't all finished reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/74">TS</a>]

00:01:15   I think Scott's finish it i'm about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17   halfway through John however you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/77">TS</a>]

00:01:19   ten percent i'm a celeb rater it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/79">TS</a>]

00:01:21   it's a long book to it is a half diva [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/81">TS</a>]

00:01:23   it's a lot of its a lot of kindle dots I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25   don't know what that means but well the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/85">TS</a>]

00:01:28   first one was no was no short one either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30   so let's let's just dive right I'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/90">TS</a>]

00:01:32   gonna have a heads fire off the spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/92">TS</a>]

00:01:34   harm right now for anybody who has not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/94">TS</a>]

00:01:36   read the name of the way this podcast is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/96">TS</a>]

00:01:38   going to be one probably fairly large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/98">TS</a>]

00:01:40   boiler for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/100">TS</a>]

00:01:42   we will at the end reveal the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/102">TS</a>]

00:01:46   the wind it's it's bob bob bob is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/106">TS</a>]

00:01:49   name of the wind up with how hard was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/109">TS</a>]

00:01:51   that I could have been a lot shorter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/111">TS</a>]

00:01:52   book very short book two pages so too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/112">TS</a>]

00:01:57   let's get a little low overview of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/117">TS</a>]

00:01:59   plot of the name of the wind now this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/119">TS</a>]

00:02:01   a fantasy book in some ways I think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/121">TS</a>]

00:02:04   would interested me about it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/124">TS</a>]

00:02:06   well it has some of the tropes of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   traditional fantasy book it also feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/128">TS</a>]

00:02:10   not entirely like you know your standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/130">TS</a>]

00:02:14   fantasy book I think he plays with some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/134">TS</a>]

00:02:17   of the conventions which is nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/137">TS</a>]

00:02:18   it's the story of a man named clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/138">TS</a>]

00:02:22   job on that could yeah thanks y'all I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/142">TS</a>]

00:02:25   mean he does a good job of pointing out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/145">TS</a>]

00:02:27   in somewhere in the book I think what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/147">TS</a>]

00:02:28   the pronunciation is at some point the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/148">TS</a>]

00:02:30   air corrects somebody a man named for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/150">TS</a>]

00:02:34   both who is kind of a legendary hero and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/154">TS</a>]

00:02:39   the other thing I really love about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41   book is that the layering of the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/161">TS</a>]

00:02:43   in that we get the bulk of it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/163">TS</a>]

00:02:46   coat size like he's relating this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/166">TS</a>]

00:02:49   and it's being written down by another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/169">TS</a>]

00:02:52   man who subscribe and so you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/172">TS</a>]

00:02:55   have it it's all sort of tinged with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/175">TS</a>]

00:02:57   memory of how he came to be this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59   legendary hero but in that ad that adds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/179">TS</a>]

00:03:03   this interesting this interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05   dynamic because we also have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/185">TS</a>]

00:03:06   framing story in which he's doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/186">TS</a>]

00:03:07   relating and it's also there's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09   other stuff going on with you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/189">TS</a>]

00:03:12   way that the the world is this fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/192">TS</a>]

00:03:14   world is going which is to say not very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/194">TS</a>]

00:03:16   not very well I don't know if there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/196">TS</a>]

00:03:19   good way of summing up sort of what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/199">TS</a>]

00:03:21   what the plot of name of the wind is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/201">TS</a>]

00:03:23   though I don't you guys either of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25   have sort of like a like a pity one word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/205">TS</a>]

00:03:28   sentence summary or something because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/208">TS</a>]

00:03:30   would have trouble wrapping up in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/210">TS</a>]

00:03:31   what the plot is if you take out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/211">TS</a>]

00:03:34   whole device of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/214">TS</a>]

00:03:35   the kind of suddenly a bookend but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/215">TS</a>]

00:03:38   know the kind of flashback story it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40   fairly straightforward right at the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/220">TS</a>]

00:03:42   otha is that a psychopath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44   he is born have a gypsy right and so is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/224">TS</a>]

00:03:48   peace his parents are traveling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50   entertainers and he's in this troop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/230">TS</a>]

00:03:53   threw he has some adventures and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   loves his parents and he meets some guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   who can name things and does went to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/237">TS</a>]

00:04:01   University which is this the one school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/241">TS</a>]

00:04:04   in this world I guess where people find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/244">TS</a>]

00:04:07   out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/247">TS</a>]

00:04:07   arcane things and by the way that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/247">TS</a>]

00:04:10   they're having a lot of spoilers in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/250">TS</a>]

00:04:12   one sentence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/252">TS</a>]

00:04:13   huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/253">TS</a>]

00:04:13   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/253">TS</a>]

00:04:21   and then just passed get killed by these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/261">TS</a>]

00:04:24   with a whole troop gets killed by these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/264">TS</a>]

00:04:27   mysterious yeah kind of fairytale beings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/267">TS</a>]

00:04:31   that comical everyone except for Devon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/271">TS</a>]

00:04:34   third whatever the hell his name is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36   because he's out in the forest or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/276">TS</a>]

00:04:39   something and so he comes back you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/279">TS</a>]

00:04:40   everyone dead he's very sad he goes to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/280">TS</a>]

00:04:43   city he lives as a street urchin for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/283">TS</a>]

00:04:46   couple of years and then he meets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/286">TS</a>]

00:04:48   somebody who inspires him to go to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/288">TS</a>]

00:04:51   University himself he's accepted to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/291">TS</a>]

00:04:53   University he's a shockingly he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/293">TS</a>]

00:04:56   stellar student at the University he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/296">TS</a>]

00:04:58   great aptitude he meets a rich guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/298">TS</a>]

00:05:02   is doesn't like him because he's poor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/302">TS</a>]

00:05:03   and he knows a lot more than rich guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/303">TS</a>]

00:05:05   and there you go that's a bit more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/305">TS</a>]

00:05:09   one sentence but but it is a reason on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/309">TS</a>]

00:05:12   said it was it with yeah that's a bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14   a comma splice yeah but I think you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16   did a good job of telling you know sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   of hitting the high notes there I but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   you know it's not necessarily because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   this is the first book in a series you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/322">TS</a>]

00:05:25   know obviously we don't get like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/325">TS</a>]

00:05:26   everything you know this is only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/326">TS</a>]

00:05:28   first a part of the art like we service [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/328">TS</a>]

00:05:31   were sort of in the name of the when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/331">TS</a>]

00:05:32   you're getting his rise but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/332">TS</a>]

00:05:34   necessarily you know the middle or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/334">TS</a>]

00:05:38   end of the story although you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/338">TS</a>]

00:05:39   impression from the framing story where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/339">TS</a>]

00:05:41   we having both relate this to his his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/341">TS</a>]

00:05:45   scribe that he's sort of come down in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/345">TS</a>]

00:05:49   the world instead since the frame store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/349">TS</a>]

00:05:50   he's an innkeeper and there is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/350">TS</a>]

00:05:53   suggestion later on at least towards the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/353">TS</a>]

00:05:56   end of the book that he'd these powers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/356">TS</a>]

00:05:58   these amazing powers which made him this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   legendary hero are no longer available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   to him but it was like I said one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/362">TS</a>]

00:06:07   things I really like about it is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/367">TS</a>]

00:06:08   sort of the layering of the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/368">TS</a>]

00:06:10   there i don't know if there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/370">TS</a>]

00:06:11   something in particular they cut you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/371">TS</a>]

00:06:12   guys in terms of why you find this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/372">TS</a>]

00:06:15   assuming you you you like to the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17   what about it caught your attention and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19   sort of set it apart for you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21   well I I have a confession to make i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/381">TS</a>]

00:06:23   a very enthusiastic about doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   show this book on the podcast most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/385">TS</a>]

00:06:28   people just want to be on a book podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   and you guys read books way too fast for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32   me and I already read this one side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/392">TS</a>]

00:06:33   it was a great opportunity so you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35   think I'd be a all set to say lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37   wonderful things about this book but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39   fact i come here not to praise this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41   but area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/401">TS</a>]

00:06:42   oh but it and yet you are reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/402">TS</a>]

00:06:45   second one though so that's an injured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/405">TS</a>]

00:06:47   if you didn't like the first one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/407">TS</a>]

00:06:49   yeah so I heard about this book I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/409">TS</a>]

00:06:52   remember her through the internet and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54   hadn't read a fantasy book in a long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/414">TS</a>]

00:06:55   time and people are making a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/415">TS</a>]

00:06:56   noise about the you know this new guides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/416">TS</a>]

00:06:58   his first book it's a great facebook you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/418">TS</a>]

00:07:00   should read it so I said fine I'll give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/420">TS</a>]

00:07:01   it a try and i started reading it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/421">TS</a>]

00:07:04   the reason i'm reading the sequel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06   the reason I'm part of the reason things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/426">TS</a>]

00:07:08   anyways there were a lot of things to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/428">TS</a>]

00:07:09   recommend this book I guess I'll start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/429">TS</a>]

00:07:11   before i start shredding at the bits [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/431">TS</a>]

00:07:12   with my favorite parts of the book my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/432">TS</a>]

00:07:15   favorite parts about you guys touching a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/435">TS</a>]

00:07:17   lot of them already won i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19   the the whole magic system in the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/439">TS</a>]

00:07:23   that the idea of sympathy and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/443">TS</a>]

00:07:26   kind of like the the lame magic where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/446">TS</a>]

00:07:29   you can't really do anything too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/449">TS</a>]

00:07:30   exciting and everything is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/450">TS</a>]

00:07:31   balance by semi physical forces and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/451">TS</a>]

00:07:34   there's like the real magic where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/454">TS</a>]

00:07:35   have that where you're naming things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/455">TS</a>]

00:07:38   that's much more mysterious and not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40   commonplace that whole mechanism and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42   takes up a lot of the beginning part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   the book that that stuff I like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46   thought it was interesting and original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/466">TS</a>]

00:07:48   and a dry like books that do something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/468">TS</a>]

00:07:50   interesting with the magic system and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/470">TS</a>]

00:07:54   that pulled me into it but as i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/474">TS</a>]

00:07:56   reading the book you know said that God [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/476">TS</a>]

00:07:58   gave a good summary of like gypsy dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/478">TS</a>]

00:08:01   big bad thing happens to the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03   of the book everybody killed then his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05   you know down period where he's living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07   in the streets and stuff like that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09   then sort of his rise up through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/489">TS</a>]

00:08:10   university but as I was going through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   the book in in ebook form i was looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/492">TS</a>]

00:08:15   at the little progress meter to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/495">TS</a>]

00:08:16   certain point I realized wait a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/496">TS</a>]

00:08:17   there's no way they can wrap this up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/497">TS</a>]

00:08:20   like this is just gonna end I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/500">TS</a>]

00:08:23   rapidly approaching the end of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/503">TS</a>]

00:08:24   and almost nothing has happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   how ya gonna get it is the first book in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/506">TS</a>]

00:08:29   the series so if that's not that big of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   a deal but it kind of bothered me a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34   little bit and I was like well you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/514">TS</a>]

00:08:35   just keep going to apply the rest of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37   throat by the time i was done i had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/517">TS</a>]

00:08:40   lot a lot of complaints about this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   and I couldn't believe people were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/522">TS</a>]

00:08:43   raving about it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/523">TS</a>]

00:08:44   because this great fantasy novel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/524">TS</a>]

00:08:45   maybe that is hadn't read fast and I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47   in a long time this is actually an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/527">TS</a>]

00:08:50   excellent example of the genre and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   just remember the other ones family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/532">TS</a>]

00:08:53   because I was a younger person when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/533">TS</a>]

00:08:54   read them I don't know but before I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   through my list of things can you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/536">TS</a>]

00:08:58   think of anything about the book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/538">TS</a>]

00:08:59   you didn't like what do you think I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00   gonna complain about besides that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/540">TS</a>]

00:09:02   plot stuff that I just did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04   well I for one hit this is another so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06   what's included both is a I can't say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/546">TS</a>]

00:09:10   his name so i don't like that be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12   ah he's another one of these main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   characters that is incredibly good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   everything right which I find a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18   annoying everything he tried she like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20   the best flute player in the world that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/560">TS</a>]

00:09:23   he writes all these songs that everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   knows and he's the best in this class at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/565">TS</a>]

00:09:27   everything and it gets to be a bit much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29   because he has all these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   challenges that are set before him right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/571">TS</a>]

00:09:33   but you know he's going to successfully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/573">TS</a>]

00:09:35   overcome them because he's the smartest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37   person in the book he's the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38   talented freshmen in the book he has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41   best voice in the book maybe a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43   flaw here in there wasn't a lot i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/583">TS</a>]

00:09:45   think i think baby at least i'll counter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47   that by saying that I think that any is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/587">TS</a>]

00:09:49   definitely true you know he's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/589">TS</a>]

00:09:50   plays pictured as this character is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   incredibly clever i like the times when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/592">TS</a>]

00:09:55   his cleverness doesn't do it for him and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/595">TS</a>]

00:09:58   he's like he's shown it like getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   ahead of himself I think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/600">TS</a>]

00:10:02   couple of good examples one of which in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/602">TS</a>]

00:10:03   his sort of read his report a with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/603">TS</a>]

00:10:06   he really wants to study under the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/606">TS</a>]

00:10:08   who who is the master of the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/608">TS</a>]

00:10:10   esoteric naming magic who is a bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/610">TS</a>]

00:10:13   was he's crazy I'll put it that way and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/613">TS</a>]

00:10:16   I think you know that guy in I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18   this comes more in the second book but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20   you know that is the sort of the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22   thing that seems to elude him and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/622">TS</a>]

00:10:25   think you know the it illuminates a part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/625">TS</a>]

00:10:28   of his character where he is not a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/628">TS</a>]

00:10:30   he's he's smart but he lacks a bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/630">TS</a>]

00:10:33   common sense he's always doing things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/633">TS</a>]

00:10:35   rushing in he's a bit impetuous and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/635">TS</a>]

00:10:38   sometimes they get him in trouble and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/638">TS</a>]

00:10:39   think that's that's sort of what i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/639">TS</a>]

00:10:41   about him is that he is as smart as he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   is he is very often it seems too smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/643">TS</a>]

00:10:46   for his own good but perhaps that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/646">TS</a>]

00:10:49   me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/649">TS</a>]

00:10:50   alright so that was on my list i could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52   expound on morning you guys covered the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54   basic points anything else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56   I let's see what else i didn't like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58   look i don't know i understand all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/658">TS</a>]

00:11:00   things that I i should say that I did in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   fact enjoy the book was given before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04   like John's got you on his side he sucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/664">TS</a>]

00:11:07   you into the city you tonight as not too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   hard to turn Scott to the negative side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   it's true I am generally more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/671">TS</a>]

00:11:14   predisposed to not liking something so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/674">TS</a>]

00:11:17   the other thing i did not like is what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/677">TS</a>]

00:11:19   the the character and Dina Dana whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/679">TS</a>]

00:11:22   has the the little love interest i found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/682">TS</a>]

00:11:25   that whole dynamic annoying i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/685">TS</a>]

00:11:27   if you guys do remember but yeah so so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/687">TS</a>]

00:11:30   guess i'm not entirely crazy because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/690">TS</a>]

00:11:31   that my two of my three pillars of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/691">TS</a>]

00:11:35   things that didn't like about this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/695">TS</a>]

00:11:36   for one the plot but just when / where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38   that it didn't seem like it was going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/698">TS</a>]

00:11:39   anywhere especially since it had those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/699">TS</a>]

00:11:40   like side adventures with the Dragon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/700">TS</a>]

00:11:43   he's often that town there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   University section was like lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/705">TS</a>]

00:11:46   interconnected short stories but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/706">TS</a>]

00:11:48   was no like overall arc and you can even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50   see like the beginning of an arc like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/710">TS</a>]

00:11:52   where it's going to go because it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/712">TS</a>]

00:11:53   framing stories so far down the road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/713">TS</a>]

00:11:55   from his various adventures [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57   yeah that you just I can't connect the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59   dots yet maybe it's gonna be 20 book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/719">TS</a>]

00:12:00   series so in which case you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/720">TS</a>]

00:12:02   it's going to be a three-book series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/722">TS</a>]

00:12:04   will be dead by the time he finishes at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/724">TS</a>]

00:12:05   this right but that's so the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/725">TS</a>]

00:12:08   is another thing you know that the Mary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10   Sue disease that he was that right on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   the head he's good at everything every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/732">TS</a>]

00:12:15   woman he meets loves him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/735">TS</a>]

00:12:16   you know it is flawed yet it's more of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/736">TS</a>]

00:12:19   like it you know its laws that he's too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/739">TS</a>]

00:12:21   smart for his own good but i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23   that's not a great when you're an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/743">TS</a>]

00:12:24   interview and they say well what's your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   greatest weakness I work too hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28   sometimes I'm just too clever for my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30   good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/750">TS</a>]

00:12:31   yeah yeah but the worst part the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/751">TS</a>]

00:12:34   that gave me that the worst taste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36   throughout the entire book which it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38   still bothers me is the treatment of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40   women this book should really should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/760">TS</a>]

00:12:42   have a course and you know creative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/762">TS</a>]

00:12:43   writing courses of how not to write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45   women because women only exist in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/765">TS</a>]

00:12:47   book as sexual objects and every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/767">TS</a>]

00:12:52   they come on the scene they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54   described in terms of their beauty and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56   attractiveness to the character and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/776">TS</a>]

00:12:58   that's the only value they add even as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/778">TS</a>]

00:13:00   this den a person or whatever she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/780">TS</a>]

00:13:03   she's a horrible person there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/783">TS</a>]

00:13:04   to recommend her there's no reason he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/784">TS</a>]

00:13:06   should be a tractor and anyway but every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08   architects fellow-feeling or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/788">TS</a>]

00:13:10   like any any female character Debbie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12   that the moneylender anytime they come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   on the screen so to speak it there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/794">TS</a>]

00:13:16   immediately described in terms of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/796">TS</a>]

00:13:17   attractive they are and very sexual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/797">TS</a>]

00:13:20   innuendo and if it was done in either an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/800">TS</a>]

00:13:23   omniscient narrator or first person from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/803">TS</a>]

00:13:26   the perspective of the young one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/806">TS</a>]

00:13:27   maybe you could excuse that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29   that's like maybe 18 year old Sol have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/809">TS</a>]

00:13:30   AC women you know when you're that age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/810">TS</a>]

00:13:32   or however old you supposed to be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/812">TS</a>]

00:13:33   it's being told by the older wiser one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/813">TS</a>]

00:13:35   he's the one relaying the tail as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/815">TS</a>]

00:13:37   can't come up with any sort of rational [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/817">TS</a>]

00:13:39   explanation for how horrible women are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/819">TS</a>]

00:13:41   treated in this book and it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/821">TS</a>]

00:13:43   great sonmi and it's like if we can have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/823">TS</a>]

00:13:45   any women characters know they only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   exist as pleasure centers and desire you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/827">TS</a>]

00:13:51   know tiny pinpoints of desire for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/831">TS</a>]

00:13:54   male characters in the book and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   more than anything else just like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   bothers me immensely i don't know why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   bother maybe it was the same and all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/840">TS</a>]

00:14:01   other fantasy books i read and i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/841">TS</a>]

00:14:03   notice but I noticed that a lot in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/843">TS</a>]

00:14:04   one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/844">TS</a>]

00:14:05   well that I mean that'sthat's a I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/845">TS</a>]

00:14:07   that's very often a criticism of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/847">TS</a>]

00:14:09   fantasy and science fiction genre in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11   general and you know there's obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13   could probably spend almost entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15   podcast discussing why that's the case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   but we won't dealt too much into scifi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/857">TS</a>]

00:14:20   find it less because sci-fi friends away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/860">TS</a>]

00:14:23   i think it really depends on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/863">TS</a>]

00:14:24   you-know-what syfy reading but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   that in the in the very like sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/866">TS</a>]

00:14:29   violence a traditional but like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/869">TS</a>]

00:14:31   that's one of the tropes I feel like of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/871">TS</a>]

00:14:33   science fiction and fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/873">TS</a>]

00:14:35   well but then again that's problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/875">TS</a>]

00:14:36   primarily a male-dominated field i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/876">TS</a>]

00:14:39   gonna say like the most damning thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/879">TS</a>]

00:14:40   can say about the women in this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/880">TS</a>]

00:14:41   that talking has better women characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/881">TS</a>]

00:14:43   he's got like three thousand facebook at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/883">TS</a>]

00:14:46   least his characters like least they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/886">TS</a>]

00:14:49   relate to the world and the other people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/889">TS</a>]

00:14:50   in the book as something other than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52   sexual objects they have their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54   motivations their own feelings their own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/894">TS</a>]

00:14:56   you know agendas and every single one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/896">TS</a>]

00:14:59   them isn't immediately described in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01   terms of how they are attracted to or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03   track or you know drawn towards that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   male characters how the male characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/905">TS</a>]

00:15:07   drawn to them now that and I don't want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/907">TS</a>]

00:15:10   to go on playing about this book saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/910">TS</a>]

00:15:11   horrible Derek is obviously i'm reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13   the sequel so it must be something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/913">TS</a>]

00:15:14   recommend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/914">TS</a>]

00:15:15   and i think the the set the interest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/915">TS</a>]

00:15:18   the setting and the fact that the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/918">TS</a>]

00:15:20   book didn't go anywhere makes me makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/920">TS</a>]

00:15:22   me want to know where it's going like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/922">TS</a>]

00:15:23   because that they teased you know those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/923">TS</a>]

00:15:24   those evil guys who kill this whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   troop that if we don't know anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/926">TS</a>]

00:15:27   about that we spent the whole first book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   trying to study them but wasn't allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/929">TS</a>]

00:15:30   in the library for the whole book for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32   name you know bad sitcom reasons if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/932">TS</a>]

00:15:37   that's another thing with it right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/937">TS</a>]

00:15:38   there are coincidences books that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/938">TS</a>]

00:15:39   be clear its situations books will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   cleared up with just a simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/941">TS</a>]

00:15:42   explanation but you know the master was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/942">TS</a>]

00:15:43   like nope don't want to hear about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45   don't wanna hear about any of this yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/945">TS</a>]

00:15:46   he gave youcandl no but I don't hear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48   about that all tough luck the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/948">TS</a>]

00:15:49   the book you're not learn anything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/949">TS</a>]

00:15:50   them so i guess what the way to book to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52   learn anything you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/952">TS</a>]

00:15:55   yeah so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/955">TS</a>]

00:15:58   things like that are teased and and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/958">TS</a>]

00:16:01   keeps me wondering like alright so maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/961">TS</a>]

00:16:02   he's got a really good idea about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04   guys maybe the overall story is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/964">TS</a>]

00:16:05   clever because I've learned so little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/965">TS</a>]

00:16:06   about it that I'm willing to go on so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/966">TS</a>]

00:16:09   i'll read the second book and still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/969">TS</a>]

00:16:11   nothing happens the end of the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/971">TS</a>]

00:16:12   book i'll probably start to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/972">TS</a>]

00:16:13   frustrated you will start to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/973">TS</a>]

00:16:16   frustrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/976">TS</a>]

00:16:16   yeah i mean the thing is that the fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/976">TS</a>]

00:16:18   read like all these things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/978">TS</a>]

00:16:19   wrong with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/979">TS</a>]

00:16:20   they are typical the fantasy genre and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   find that you know it's a fast read and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24   you don't have doesn't take too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/984">TS</a>]

00:16:25   mental energy to read through it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/985">TS</a>]

00:16:28   people like reading about these sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/988">TS</a>]

00:16:29   power fantasy books where the guy's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   wonderful couldn't everything and he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   opposed by unfair forces of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/993">TS</a>]

00:16:35   rich guy picking on the poor guy or he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/995">TS</a>]

00:16:37   always needs money we can all relate to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/997">TS</a>]

00:16:39   that and you know but he's really clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   and good stuff so he overcomes it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43   know it's it's a easy to digest story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:46   they could probably made into an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:47   interesting movie that would be easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   digest but it's not it's not sort of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51   adult sophisticate story I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:54   yeah i mean there there's certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56   something to be said that in that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:58   you know the plot the obstacles that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:00   faces are are fairly mundane it seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:03   like 4a for fantasy book for especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   for something would you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:06   implies there is this grand scale I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:09   yes you know there is the issue of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:10   family being killed but you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12   you said a lot of the wedding struggles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   with his is like money problems and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16   being harassed by this guy at school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18   this is not a chasing that girl who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20   write worth chasing well which is none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22   of which is necessarily your typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24   like you know fantasy right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:26   they seem a lot more like teenage and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:28   course our character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:29   he's also you know precociously young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:30   right he's like like 16 or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:33   then things mixed in with that they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35   that story that you hear about like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37   the legendary backstory of these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   in the kings and that's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:40   that's fantasy book type stuff for he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42   talks all about you know that the king [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:45   who goes blind and the various deals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:46   they made in the origin of these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48   will kill that is just a hundred percent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:49   hardcore epic fantasy but then you come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:52   back as like that and it was just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:53   story so now i need to try to get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   more money [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:55   well and that is one of the things i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:58   enjoy about the book at least was those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1078">TS</a>]

00:17:59   layering of stories where you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:02   i said we already have this framing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:03   story in this guy relating a story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   then inside of that we often have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:06   another layer of story that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:08   comes in there and I think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10   clearly rock this has an interest in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:11   sort of delving into the lore of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:14   world that he's created in a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:16   times that's you know that's fun and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:18   interesting you know sort of side trip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1098">TS</a>]

00:18:20   even if it is always tangential to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22   story itself i'm curious i mean is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:25   anything in particular that stood out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   you as you know moments that you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:31   really enjoy John McHugh flip this on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33   your head is like there anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:34   particular tales yeah well yeah I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   favorite scene that I should have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   written down was thinking last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40   angel was over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:41   no i didn't i didn't like that I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   like that bookend thing where they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:44   there with a prologue and epilogue or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   like the same except for a couple words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:47   with little change in perspective I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49   don't think he pulled that off was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:52   favorite scene I that probably my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:53   favorite scene was when he's on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:55   rooftop with the Loudoun or whatever his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:56   name is and he's trying to you know get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:58   them to come on board he tells me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1138">TS</a>]

00:19:00   jump off the roof and he doesn't cuz i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:03   got a chuckle out of that just because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1143">TS</a>]

00:19:04   that that's that's an example of why I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   like this book because it it plays on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:09   the on the conventions in any other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   fantasy book you know he would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:12   jumped off and been caught in the air by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   magic approved it's worth or not jumped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:16   off and I guess what jumps off it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1156">TS</a>]

00:19:17   breaks his legs or whatever happened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   my I remember it vaguely but that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   interactions with him tend to not be as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:26   stereotypical and and it is because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   situation which he doesn't have all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30   answers I don't know what I still think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:33   the character is so very Merry situation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35   i don't think this counts as a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:36   flaw but at least he has genuine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:38   interactions in a situation where ma or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:41   whatever saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:42   the dramas were two characters one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44   character want something at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:45   the scene he doesn't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:46   that's pretty much every scene between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48   growth and Ellen if I'm mispronouncing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   both of those names so I enjoy all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52   interactions and the roof seen in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54   particular with other yes i would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:56   said that was among my favorites too i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58   think another one of my another one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:01   I really enjoyed from the first book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03   the the the first scene where he gets in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   the first service team we have to prove [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07   himself to be admitted to the University [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:09   any part of what i liked about that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:11   that you know yes he's very clever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   that's that's the scene where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:14   demonstrates again that is clever but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16   think one of the other things i kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:17   liked about that was that he also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:19   there's a whole point made out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:20   fact that he kind of cheats in that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   sits he sort of sneaks into this place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24   and and listen to everybody else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:26   questions to see what they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:28   ask before he does that and I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30   know to me that speaks to one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:32   things that I that I like about quote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34   that is not necessarily just that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:35   says you know you so smart and clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   but he cheats right you know he tries to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:40   figure out shortcuts and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   one of those flaws that I that I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:44   liked about him that's his kobayashi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:46   brew moment that says that's a street [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:49   urchin thing like that's that's the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   interesting part of this character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:52   because he's insufferable when he's with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:53   his family is like over wonderful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55   gypsies were artists and we all love art [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   and we're happy and my parents loved me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:59   in there there you know these they're 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:00   feet tall and towering above me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02   giving me advice about it you know when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:05   he goes through that experience living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:06   on your pretty excited when they got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:07   murdered huh yeah i got those guys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1267">TS</a>]

00:21:11   dead the murder didn't hit me that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:12   because it's like they're just they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:15   visible problems characterization every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   characteristic of the main characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:18   really cookie cutter like think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:19   his friends like sim and whoever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:22   friends and they're just there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24   to them they're they're barely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:25   characters if you have to say what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27   distinguishes one of his friends from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:28   the other and same thing with the girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30   are just you know that this is not a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:33   there in the same was true of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:34   parents so I didn't hit me that hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1294">TS</a>]

00:21:35   when he died because i didn't buy into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37   the whole like I've analogous to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39   seem real but when he's down and out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:41   as sort of a homeless kid and I go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   through all those troubles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:44   everything that adds an aspect of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46   character is more interesting i think we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:47   should focus more on that if they want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:50   to like you know enhances character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52   flaws and believable way that things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:54   where he does things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:55   you know morally ambiguous it's you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   ahead and that seemingly doesn't regret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1317">TS</a>]

00:22:00   them you know and he does that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:03   doing that in the second book now tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:04   me how to continue to do things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   aren't particularly heroic or Noble or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:10   that his parents went to grow but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:11   isn't they don't seem to bother amount [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:12   of he's a sociopath or they're just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   just not very big on introspection you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16   know they want my dad think if he knew I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:18   was cheating to get into the sea he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:20   raised me so well and honorably or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:21   you know all gypsies sheets are Gypsy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23   listeners for the stairs at the risk of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:26   you know making us sound like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:30   practiced all totally in the pit of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:33   liking things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:34   well its got diseases or anything you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:36   particularly that stood out to you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:37   you did like I know we talked a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   bit about what you didn't like well I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:42   i did--like i read the book when it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:45   first came out so i don't remember any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:46   particular scenes but I did like the how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1366">TS</a>]

00:22:50   he goes about building his I mean this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1370">TS</a>]

00:22:52   is kind of a term tossed around in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54   science fiction and fantasy world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56   building right so i think that he does a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58   good job of I may not like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   characters but i think the world that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   puts them in is very interesting and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:05   does he built that world in such a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:07   of not really telling us about it my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:10   kind of having his characters interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:11   in it and then you know telling stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:14   about the world and setting it up so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:15   don't really see much of the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17   because you only see what could both is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:20   is interacting with but you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:23   a lot more stuff out there and there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1403">TS</a>]

00:23:25   kings and there are their stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   happening that you don't really see so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   think that it makes the setting very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   interesting to me i think that that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:33   you know and traditionally that's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:35   part of fantasy right is world-building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:36   that's why many of us read these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:39   fantasy books to sort of see what on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41   what other worlds that these writers can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43   put together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:44   I you know I think that there's a lot I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:48   mean despite John's misgivings I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50   our are you know some of them are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52   accurate i think there are there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:53   definitely shortcomings in the book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55   I mean I'm going to get the Bible slacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   and seduces first book but you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59   know there's definitely room for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:00   improvement and you know it's one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:04   things I've been looking forward to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:05   reading the second book for awhile i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:06   came across this book first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08   actually the year it came out i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   because it was the onion AV club's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:14   Book of the Year like the best book they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   read in 2007 see never how could that be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:19   possible that's that's probably a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:21   what's happening here is the overhyping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:22   like I read it after so many people that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   said so many things about it so I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26   really expecting something special and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:27   you know for all the good things like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:30   I'd come in unknown on and i probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:31   would have been up on those bugs i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33   thought this book was gonna be another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:34   garbage fantasy but actually had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:36   interesting things instead i'm coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:37   into it as this is the best fantasy book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:40   in the past 10 years and every did say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:41   no it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:43   well i was thinking about that as I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45   know we're prepared for this podcast I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47   i sat in a quiet room and just pondered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   the book as I often do and I after I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:52   finished reading it I thought to myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   I remember thinking very clearly this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56   unlike any fantasy book i have ever read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58   you think it's unlike unlevel that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:01   what I after i read it that's what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03   thought but then through the years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05   thinking about what happened in the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:06   I thought to myself this is pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:09   what fantasy books are starting to shine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:12   think about because I mean the story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   very traditional right you know it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:17   guy who overcomes lot of challenges and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19   becomes this legend but i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:22   interesting part of it and i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24   if this happens in the first book but so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26   it definitely in the second book he kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:28   of in the the book and a story he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:32   relates how he kind of he himself during [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:36   when he was a kid created these legends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   about himself that you then here later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   on so like you know he started spreading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   the rumors about you know the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:44   powers that he had that he didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:45   have but he just kind of planted those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:48   stories and well yea yea that there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   really good scene in the first book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   I quite liked where's the he gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54   punished for doing something at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:55   University and he gets whipped and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:58   makes a point of taking this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:01   drug or whatever that will prevent him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:03   from bleeding so he doesn't you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:07   has included so essentially is a point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:09   of not showing weakness is the way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:10   he sees it and so that sort of urns in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:13   this code both the Bloodless about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:16   that's you know then becomes a larger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:19   part of this legend like all you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:20   new here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:21   that he doesn't he doesn't bleed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23   that's kinda one of the fun parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25   this is that in this framing story he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   an innkeeper having sort of resigned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   from this life of heroism and yet all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:32   the people come into the in know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   legendary figure they don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   that the innkeeper is the legendary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38   figure but they'll be telling stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40   about him and you'll see the as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:41   story progresses as the story that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   hear from clothes progresses you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   start to recognize like the stories that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:48   the the people in the indoor telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   about clothes this legendary figure you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:53   start to see the seeds of that in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:54   story that that were sort of getting the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   real story but they're totally blown out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58   of proportion which is I think one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1618">TS</a>]

00:26:59   the things I liked about it like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:01   if there's definitely a strong element [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1621">TS</a>]

00:27:03   of like what storytelling is and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:06   making you know what exactly a legend is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:09   right and i think that was my my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   favorite part of the book and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   what I think made it so unique because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15   you know the story is pretty much a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17   fantasy story the magic system is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:20   different than a lot of other stuff but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:21   I mean the overall arc in the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23   kind of there's nothing too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   extraordinary about them or i should say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:28   nothing to stand out about them but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   think that the whole like like Dan said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32   the whole you know telling a story about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:33   storytelling is is interesting i started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:37   off two minds on the framing saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39   because on the one hand i almost think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:41   especially in the first book that if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:43   series that started straight where I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45   third pressure on mission narrator no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:48   framing story start with the kid who's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   gypsy and just gone through the story in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:53   the linear fashion like that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:55   ended i guess in the same spot for after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57   finding out nothing new about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:59   people and saving in town from a dragon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:01   you know you'd be like it would would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:03   read more like like the first harry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:05   potter book cord where it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:07   discovering the world and what you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:10   do in it and a little bit of adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:13   and stuff like that but nothing that big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:14   apple's book because I thought there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:17   so little of the framing story it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:18   just it was like almost like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20   distraction I could come back to and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:21   have that argument between a vast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23   the chronicler and like I felt like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   was just wasting time but on the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:26   hand since the frame story is there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:28   we know he ends up its asset innkeeper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   dude i hope that in the later books they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:33   don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:34   and maybe in a second most men don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:35   pull punches and it's not just that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:37   retired from heroism but that he ended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:40   up doing some really bad things because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:43   that will add a lot of interest to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:44   character I think I don't want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   like that he did heroic stuffin even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   know didn't turn out the way he wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:49   he always had the best intentions I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:51   to see him you know either become mad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1731">TS</a>]

00:28:53   with power or make some really bad moves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:56   or do something out of jealousy or just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:57   basically mess things opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   already you know imply that has caused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01   this big war that sort of in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:02   background or whatever I want to see him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:03   do bad things I'm sort of downfall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1743">TS</a>]

00:29:06   you know I don't want to see him try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08   be the earth throughout the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:09   just like he tries to be in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   book and just like Oh through bed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:12   coincidences and mean people doing mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14   things to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:16   things didn't turn out that well I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   to see some serious you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:21   emotional wrenching problems happen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:24   him and the frame started kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26   promises that so I have my fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:27   crossed CC when I think that's what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29   the framing story really kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:31   separates and elevates this book from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:34   the heart which I I despise harry potter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36   so I never read them always in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:39   movies but i haven't read them for I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   the I was the only one on the harry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:42   potter podcast here is that whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:45   and I i don't i don't care for it so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   have only read the first one everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   says oh they get so much better and if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:50   don't like the first one I'm not reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:52   6 more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:52   I'm sorry but anyway so i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:54   that framing story really kind of it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:57   be a trick like a writer trick but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59   don't think it's going to get really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:00   elevates the whole thing and because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:03   know how the story is going to end it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   really makes the story which is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:08   running the middle story much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   interesting for sure like what how does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:11   he get from from this little kid who you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:14   know is great and everything to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:16   innkeeper who is kind of you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:17   seemingly washed up or is he hiding out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:20   or what's going on with it and you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:22   find out he's so cautious about laying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24   out details I worry about Dark Tower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:27   disease the first Dark Tower had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29   little bit of that to where it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:30   interesting word you want a world and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:32   you want to know more about it but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:33   tell you almost nothing so it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:36   removed it's a big big tease and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:39   leaves you wanting more but then then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:40   you've got to pay off eventually you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   know in the seven books you have to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:44   something about this world and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:45   the harder part so in the first one it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:46   is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:47   have a little bit easier to say we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   gonna have this framing story and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:50   know something happens to my hands up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:51   here but we're not even going to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   you what we're not even gonna tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:54   whether he's like he's like you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:56   know if he's hiding because people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:57   trying to do something bad to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:59   something good did he just give up we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:01   don't know what happened to him only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:02   thing we know is that he lives through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:04   well we get the impression from the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:07   of the first the end of the frame store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:10   from the first book that he can't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:12   magic anymore but yeah that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:15   the body because he's depressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:17   I hope it's because you can ever imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   he was lying the whole time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:20   unreliable narrator well hey I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:23   that's that might be you know that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   that would be arguably very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   disappointing in some ways but also very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:28   interesting another way because we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30   get this whole thing through his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:31   perspective like there's and clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33   he's a good storyteller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:34   so you know what if he is he claims he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:37   is not you know embellishing it but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39   if he was you know like that would be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:40   interesting understand this in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:43   world i mean if in the University magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45   is kind of commonplace but once you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:46   leave even like I looks it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   you walk like three steps from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50   University and everyone has never heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52   of magic so if you can accuse you of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   consorting with demons 10 letters and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   liked how they mix it with technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   because like it's it is magic and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   there's this other thing which is their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02   equivalent of technology and and people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:05   haven't heard of it because they're you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:06   know the same way farmers have been her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:07   transistor radios when it first appeared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   but like the second book now this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   spoiler but someone's gotta love a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:12   refrigerator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:13   basically it's made from these two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   little magic more or less strips of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:19   metal but it's just a refrigerator and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21   it's it's just as magical to him as as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:24   real fridge would be and that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:26   that's that's the one side of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:28   technology that's it's boring like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:30   people like all you got one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:31   magic refrigerated likes not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:33   it's not that interesting vs naming the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   wind John where you were you were you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   disappointed when it turned out he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:39   also you know like an excellent fridge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:41   repair man at a certain point you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43   assume it's going to be good at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:44   everything he is going to the University [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:46   but it may seem so easy just right stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:49   on little pieces yeah but that's totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51   different than the that that's there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:54   that has like you know you get three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:55   steps outside no one's even heard that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:56   is like sympathy lights wow it's magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58   but the real magic is still as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:01   far along as I am in the second book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   still very mysterious and very powerful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:04   and very scary even within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   university it's not like Harry Potter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:07   weather like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:08   now kids raised you want we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   learn now even within the university [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   it's kind of hard corn and that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:13   everyone respect the crazy professor guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   because he's the one guy who's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   professor of that real magic stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   the other guys it more like a scientist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   my professors in actual University who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   do one respects just just like an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:27   university exactly where that I can hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   someone's got at once killings got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   shop for people are building things like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   woodshop class is dangerous chemicals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   it's basically science without having to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   worry about it being science that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   it's much more you know work a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   metric is this very interested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   the magic of engineering yeah and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   think that's my favorite part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:46   whole thing is that split between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48   technology magic and magic magic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:51   especially since the stories they tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:53   of like long ago and the people who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   demons and the deals they make and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   magic magic like even within this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2037">TS</a>]

00:34:00   with this kind of magic technology is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   creeping up they still have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:02   amazing tales of when there was real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   magic let me tell you kids and it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:06   this stuff for we write little ruins on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:09   pieces of metal make it hot no let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:10   tell you it was real magic and the few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:13   hints of that I get with him calling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15   wind and the let that legend that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17   thing I think ties the first book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:18   together because lord knows the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   doesn't tied together in fact that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:22   the fact that it's called the name of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:23   the wind and the real magic is is sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:26   of going to be at the heart of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   journey to power and that he you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   here is about in the beginning and does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32   it at the end that ties it together and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34   makes it sort of a book for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   well then and there are a lot of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38   that are hinted at and you know I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:39   of I don't know I i find myself a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:43   surprise I know Scotty much as before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:44   that it's you know sort of envision that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:47   say peers as a three-book series but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:50   seems like and again I'm only halfway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52   through the second book seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:53   there's a lot more material in here that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55   then that's gonna fit in three books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   right yeah i mean i finished the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:59   second book and I don't I if the third [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:01   book is going to be maybe forty eight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   hundred pages long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:04   maybe I don't know because there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:05   of other words facing right that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:07   the first one I said I kept reading and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09   reading gone dude you're not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:10   finish let me tell you like he's using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   you're not going to finish it at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:13   University what's gonna happen is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   can discover anything about these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:16   his whole mission of the first ones i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:17   gotta find out about these people will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:18   kill my parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:19   you don't have enough pages left dude [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21   you're not gonna find anything out so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:22   guess you chase after dragon for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24   addressing dragon and then we'll end the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   book The End call the wind en su but I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:31   have i have trouble following like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33   chronology so i read a blog post about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:35   this where someone said that in the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37   innkeep like in his innkeeper in the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39   bookend thing they think he's like 30 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:42   years old and I imagine too much older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   than that I don't need and I thought it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:45   was like 60 yeah I think he's now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:48   think I mean that they're kind of big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:49   about it you know that but people come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:52   into the inner kind of vague about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:53   little one of them doesn't you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55   lose some points to him being can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:58   that old you know basically I mean of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2158">TS</a>]

00:35:59   course the story we're getting from him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:00   is he's like 16 and so you know by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:04   point I guess you know 30 might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:05   really old and fantasy world where four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07   people seem to die pretty on your way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09   get noticed that he walked like an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:11   man but looks like a young man like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:12   moves like one of the comments one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   the people who have the first or second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:15   book was that you move like an old man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:17   but you look like a young man and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:18   you don't have life expectancy was 40 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20   maybe he is getting on in years I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22   don't think the time gap is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   important but it's kind of like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:25   bothers me about Star Wars a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   too and that within a single generation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:28   people like Jedi who is that and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:31   know just previously 10 years ago there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33   are swarming all over every planet solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:35   everybody's problems like I never heard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:36   a Jedi don't believe in the force was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   ever you know you believe in the force [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   of their Jedi all over the place just 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:42   years ago you know people don't forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44   that soon so if this guy did all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:45   amazing exploits and cause all these big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   problems in like the past five or ten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49   years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:50   well yeah I mean you picture it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   you're picturing him as a legend in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54   terms of like you know shrouded in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56   mists of time or whatever there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:57   definitely seems like there needs to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59   time for that to sink in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:01   unless you just a legend in this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:02   little town plus the university town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:03   legend in his own mind that that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:07   stuff stuff to work out especially since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   this guy seems to suggest pages come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11   of him but he doesn't make progress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:12   maybe group does not planted that well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:15   and he's gonna I don't know if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17   the time lines all worked out but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19   would think after working on the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:20   book for seven years or something he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22   should take the time to do a little time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24   line chart and figure out okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26   he's this old this point I gotta get do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:27   all these events happened to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   between here and now it doesn't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:30   sense for the townspeople like not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32   wreck another to have photography and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:33   stuff but he's a guy with the red hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35   and I don't know that if it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:39   hiding by weight and second red hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:43   didn't like dryer and put on the glasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:44   and it's like you know Superman where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46   did you go this just this guy here with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   glasses well and there's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:49   there's a there's a funny scene in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:52   second book where he tries to convince [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:53   one of the one of the NTSA i just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:56   through that scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:57   yeah and I felt like it was not possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:59   that he couldn't convince them of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:00   but I mean I don't know I i agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:03   because I think there's something II and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:05   you know maybe that's still to be borne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:06   out by by the rest of the story but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08   think there is something like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:09   if somebody walks up to you and tells [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:11   them tells you that they're like Merlin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:13   or whatever like it you know even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:14   they got a long white beard and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   seem to look like you know wizard you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   probably going to be a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   skeptical i met Merlin just the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:23   day and let me tell you meet a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25   interesting people until they did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:26   tell you it was magic everywhere but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:29   these people believe in magic though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:30   it's not the same as Maryland it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   be like someone who looks just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:33   Robert Downey jr. but looked a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:35   bit scruffy here came up to you and said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:37   no seriously i'm robert downey jr and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39   you like get out of here and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:40   look at him close and you feel like yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42   I guess you want well and then I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:44   there is some question of the depth like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:46   the definition of the world of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48   framing story right because there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50   there is the there's that encounter at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:53   the end of the book where there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:54   guy is basically like a demon possesses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:57   some guy and patron you know comes into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:00   the inn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:00   and they're all trying to stop him but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   none of them quite believe that it is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04   fact a demon until after they gave you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:07   know tried to kill it in several ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:08   and have failed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10   I mean I think it's in there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12   suggestion that that that is uncommon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:14   but you're right that there's there's we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:17   don't necessarily have a clear picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:18   of how the world in that in that future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:20   or in presence i guess from the framing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:23   story like how commonplace all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   things are and then they are kind of in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   a backwater town or even though they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:29   they talk about the legend stuff like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:31   they're not sophisticated people the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33   chronicler is more of a sophisticated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:34   person and is you know and it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   friend of the two of them are more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:39   worldly and know about these things with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41   the town spoke just seemed to not know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43   about anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:43   another thing I liked about the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   technology angles that the demons you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47   kill them with iron some sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   allegory about technology and systems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   and superstition or maybe just reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:52   too much into it well that's that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54   that's a classic it's a classic sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56   truck that goes back i think even to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:57   fairy tales cold iron is usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:01   considered I think Shakespeare lose that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03   like there's a there's a scene in like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:05   midsummer night's dream or something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:06   think so nice piece of Lord though they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08   had good scenes without like strapping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:09   him to the big iron wheel and putting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:11   the pit and everything all that stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2411">TS</a>]

00:40:12   would be good on film I feel like yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   mean would you make a movie out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:15   it seems like it would be it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17   it wouldn't work right it wouldn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   with some seams in it work like that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:20   whole at the backstory scene would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22   kind of like the backstory seen in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   fellowship of the ring without telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26   the story about the the original battle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   with everything was cut off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:29   star-spangled learn everything that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:30   little backstory segment that story they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   tell about almost the legends and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:35   would fit in that style and the scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:36   with a demon being strapped to an iron [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   wheel and speaking in tongues and trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   to convince you to lighten free that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:41   that's that's triple a cinema there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43   then everything else around that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:45   like I don't make a movie out of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:46   weekend it's not your traditional is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:49   definitely not your to structured like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:50   your traditional playa the movie would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:52   end of people like what wait what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:54   happened and then the magic isn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:57   show you so I mean it's not like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59   yeah people don't want it like that work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:00   about and definitely works well in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02   book all the explanations of the magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:03   and everything if you're kind of a geek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:04   or a science geek or whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06   it's like a different world system you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:08   but i like reading about that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:09   little bit tiresome reading about it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11   second time in the second book but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   that's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:13   podcast we can discuss that how do you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:16   know that it wouldn't be so interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18   to see him you know crafting a sympathy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20   lab been explaining how it works i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22   watch that sounds riveting I i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:25   watch it to it does sound interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:26   but for most people not ask myself my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:29   favorite parts of the book one is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   lab and explain the principles and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   demonstrating my love that stuff not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:37   interfere too much of the RF field but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:40   was curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:41   John uses only earlier about like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   know this wasn't this wasn't you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45   best fantasy book of the past decade i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:46   curious if there's something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2506">TS</a>]

00:41:47   particular that stands out to you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   was that you felt like pick up the slack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   and places where this was lacking yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   i've barely read fantasy books now so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:56   i'll just surmising that there had to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   a better book mostly what what we think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:01   of it because yeah I that's why can't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   another book episodes because I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05   read that much and what I do read is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   like stuck in this Stephen King year's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09   best science fiction ghetto have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:12   read have you read george RR martin song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14   of ice and fire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:15   you know I haven't haven't read any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:16   his books alright i'll probably come up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:18   in a future podcast since the TV show is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:21   coming out next month i did I can give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23   an example are really you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:24   fantasy books that are better than this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:26   that had been in my lifetime obviously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   looking at the lord of the rings out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   there is ridiculous but obviously you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:31   know that's that's my favorite fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33   book of all time that's a whole other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:34   category but not a big such a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:37   Stephen can King fan his one fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:40   book I thought eyes of the dragon was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   great example of why people buy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:45   numbers straightforward fantasy that had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:49   lots of interesting things to recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51   like it wasn't amazing and fantastic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   transcendent but it was it was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   bit paint by the numbers but i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:58   like that I thought it was at and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00   ears a nose was not typical Stephen King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   you can redo a kid or whatever I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   look to that as my sort of benchmark for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   top-quality not not amazing but not bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:12   fantasy and I judge all the fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14   books by you know is it better or worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:15   than eyes of the dragon and in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:17   regarding this is worse than I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19   dragon almost every regard but better in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   those highlight aspects of like had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:24   better world more interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26   ideas about the epic story and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:29   it's a much bigger and much bigger story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   that has yet to be told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:33   ok how he's got well i will admit that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:36   when i was in high school I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:39   burnt out on fantasy books i read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:41   whole bunch of pretty crappy fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   books like a lot of them and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45   stopped reading fantasy because I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:46   sick of it it's always the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   you know there's some extraordinary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:49   person in need to find something and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:52   know sleigh and evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:54   so this book actually has been at these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   two books i think the best fantasy books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58   i read in the last few years of course I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:02   haven't read much fantasy so I'm not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04   good judge of the best science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:06   best fantasy the last year's fair enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2646">TS</a>]

00:44:09   about yourself down are you a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   fantasy person I I kind of like you I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13   like I read a lot of it i mean i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:15   the thing that killed a lot of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:16   fantasy interest was a robert jordan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:17   personally personally responsible for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:20   killing much my fantasy interest which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:21   books that i think i read the first six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   maybe seven books in that series and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   that i read up to the point like where i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27   think i was in high school and I read up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29   to the point where like he had written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:31   at that time and was like well yeah that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2671">TS</a>]

00:44:33   was pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:34   like you know although i'll read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36   next book when it comes out and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:37   next book came out like years later and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   i was like i don't remember a thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:41   happened in there and I become sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2681">TS</a>]

00:44:43   disenchanted with it in the meanwhile I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   was like I'm never going to reread it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:46   to figure out what happened and then i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   would read some you know care criticism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:50   of it from other people like it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:51   that's another good example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:54   well you know the female characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:56   being locally sort of two-dimensional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:59   and they're just for the that the men's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2699">TS</a>]

00:45:01   interest in them and I think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03   that sort of run home at that point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:04   after i was at more of a distance and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:07   and that sort of held me off for a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:09   i've come across a couple fancy books in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11   the past years that I really liked one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:12   of them was this one at least before I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:14   start talking job got it John has ruined [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:17   it for everyone but the other ones being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2717">TS</a>]

00:45:20   I have enjoyed George RR Martin's song [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22   of ice and fire to lift up until the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24   point where is and there's a I guess the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   next book is due out in the summer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   I've read to actually read the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   three books in that series twice because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:31   i read them again when the fourth book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   came out and they're very good i hope he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:35   doesn't fall into the robert jordan trap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37   of sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:38   spinning this story out forever and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   he has a good ending point because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:42   there's some really good stuff in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:43   it's a very brutal you know series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:46   books it's got a lot of stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:47   focuses on things more like political [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2747">TS</a>]

00:45:49   intrigue there's not a lot of magic or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:51   other worldliness and so it makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:53   that much more interesting when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:54   comes up that's true i had forgotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   about Jordan I will second that and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2756">TS</a>]

00:46:00   the other book which i came across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:01   roughly the same time i came across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   name of the wind is a book called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:04   lies of locke lamora which has some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:08   things that are very similar to the name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:11   of the wind especially in that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   the sort of the main character is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:14   very clever fellow he's a thief though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:17   and this is this book is is it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:20   different in some ways it's a lot darker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   the end of that book is very dark like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:26   John John start talking about like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:27   wanted to see like the actual meaningful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2787">TS</a>]

00:46:29   loss and stuff like that i started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:31   thinking about that book because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:32   really is a lot of that book that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:33   feel sort of like wow that did not go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:36   well for that guy and that had a sequel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2796">TS</a>]

00:46:40   called a red seas under red skies and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42   think there's another book do this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:44   or or sometime soon and so that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   the other series that i read started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48   reading few years ago and thinking wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:49   this is this is really good i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51   like this you know you know it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:53   throughout their I was thinking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55   picking up ere it and I mentioned doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:57   before I don't get called fantasy or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59   sci-fi is kind of in the middle but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:00   thought my favorite book in the dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02   tower series reads like a fantasy book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   wizard and glasses my favorite one and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:06   that reads like a more-or-less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:07   self-contained fantasy but can I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09   that was head and shoulders above its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   really that's a really coherent like out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:14   as opposed to a lot of the other books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:15   in that series which are kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2835">TS</a>]

00:47:17   this weird pastiche mix-match of genres [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:19   Wizarding glasses really really coherent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21   and like sort of focused on this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:25   and again it's sort of a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:26   flashback right because its role in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:28   telling the story of yeah very little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   framing story and that one but mostly in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   the world bulb and then it's been retold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34   that they sort of told three different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   lens in the Sudan doing a graphic novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   version of that and it's sort of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:42   telling some of the same story or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:43   the story of sort of young Roland which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45   is again interesting i think that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:46   agree that the world that world i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:49   enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:50   and wizards and glasses a pretty pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:52   good book and you have to call that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:53   fantasy right especially that old world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55   stuff is a kind of headlines and nights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:56   an email they have done and seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   westerns right right well it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   mix-match of those two bowls of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:01   college more of the Western [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2881">TS</a>]

00:48:03   self-contained book will that and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05   definitely a Western yeah well western / [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:07   syfy vs right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09   western / fantasy and I can study and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:12   that's one of the things I love about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:13   the dark tower is that it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:14   embrace all those things but I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:15   again something probably for another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   podcast yeah but i would but i would put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19   that up there is like it was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:20   think of fantasy books i read i always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22   try to read those years best fantasy you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:24   know just like I read the year's best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:25   sci-fi stuff and for some reason have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27   much easier time reading the year's best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29   sci-fi short stories and the fancy ones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   I just I just peter out and don't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33   it through the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35   yeah I don't know what the I i'm trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:38   to think of other fantasy books I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:39   read in the last few years i think some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:40   of them a lot of the other ones that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2920">TS</a>]

00:48:42   really like are things that have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:43   around for awhile that are i mean for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:46   example i love love Terry Pratchett who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   writes in a fantasy world but it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:49   means community right it's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:51   different thing that's like saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:52   exactly like science fiction so I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   the hitchhiker's guide that so that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:55   has a general to himself and so does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57   terry pratchett I love him too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:58   yeah so i'm trying to think if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   anything else that was really like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:01   would jump out at me from the past 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03   years and yeah I there are some that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:06   the they're very like I everyone smile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:08   see things come across but they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:09   always sound like very traditional sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   of fantasy books of the type that I you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13   know didn't really like that much so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:15   that I had one of the things I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:18   about the name of the wind i think in in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:19   sort of coming back around to that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   that like Scott said that it didn't seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:24   too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:25   while it has a lot of the tropes of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   fantasy novel it has enough different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:29   going for it that I i found it kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:33   departure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:34   it's kind of a fresh take on it's right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:36   because it's not the same thing over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2976">TS</a>]

00:49:39   over again like when I was a kid argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   your case i read a lot of david eddings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:44   so I was obsessed with David a text i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46   read he had a 10 book series and I read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:49   the whole thing and then he came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2989">TS</a>]

00:49:50   with a new series and i read that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:51   five books they came up with another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53   series and slowly dawned on me that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:56   was telling the exact same story with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:58   slightly different characters over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00   varying numbers of books and so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02   stopped read that but this this was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04   of a similar story but had a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:05   different viewpoint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   ya know I i agree with that I i never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:11   read a lot of those ones that were big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   when I was a when I was in high school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   like terry brooks and Terry good kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:17   and all that I never never got into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:19   those who I return good can then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3019">TS</a>]

00:50:20   started getting very he sido un osito [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:25   masochistic it was weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:28   there are women who had pain sticks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:31   they wore red leather outfits so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3031">TS</a>]

00:50:33   when blood splashed on them wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:34   show up it got to be a bit much working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:38   out some personal issues sure exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:42   yeah i think that everything else that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:45   I'd you know a lot of the other stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3045">TS</a>]

00:50:46   that i enjoyed as much older stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:50   you know I think there's always there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:51   a very porous you know border with a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3051">TS</a>]

00:50:54   of the science fiction and fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   things that I'll but I've wiped from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:57   that era out but yeah there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3057">TS</a>]

00:51:01   but it's it's an interesting uh it's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:04   interesting dilemma when you have these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   sort of well-established genre with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08   these well-trod story type so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:11   always nice to see somebody break free a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:12   little bit and well John I hope that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:15   hope the second book treats you better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:16   than that than the first one is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   released maybe you can you you can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   it through to the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:21   vibrations you are not going to like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3081">TS</a>]

00:51:23   nah I don't call me crazy but I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:26   thinking that you know it probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:27   doesn't go anywhere either with I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:29   know at this point I'll just because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:31   read a lot of books that are not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   like I read almost everything Stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:34   King does and almost everything he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   is not great but there are certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   writing styles and authors that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:41   somehow the pages keep turning and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:42   go through you know I'm in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:44   like there's the problem of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46   e-readers maybe Scott has this problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:47   too i don't have a lot of e-readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   compared to him but i do have a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:50   devices where I can read and I'm in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:53   middle like nine books it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:56   too many when i was doing paper book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:57   that was always one of the time but now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59   it's like what I'm in the mood to read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01   lot of them are nonfiction and those i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:03   feel like i could stop and start at any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:04   time but even the fiction books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:07   I'm just in the middle so many of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:08   and like maybe do i remember i am in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   this book yep i'll read a few chapters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:11   of this and this is why I never make any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:13   progress in my books moment when these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:15   books come out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:15   these name of the wind things I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17   pretty much for that straight through to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   the end and i'll probably do the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:20   thing with the sequel because even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   anything happens there are amusing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:23   scenes and you want to see what happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3143">TS</a>]

00:52:25   and it's not you know the same reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   you watch bad sitcom TV like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29   entertainment for a few minutes but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31   it's over I do feel a little dirty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33   yeah and I think Jack slur every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:38   yeah but the Lord yeah I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:39   we're helping like it's hard to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:40   people on this podcast to read a fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3160">TS</a>]

00:52:42   book right so it's just the three of us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   one guy was never on a book episode and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   the and the two guys who read everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:47   this podcast is not going to help us get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:50   people on the beach you know the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:51   fantasy football guess but for God's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53   sake people read the dark tower so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:54   can talk about it it's only 8,000 pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3174">TS</a>]

00:52:57   are you waiting for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59   would you here's the question for both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   you and then would you recommend this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03   book if someone you're with your friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05   computer says hey I want to read a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07   fantasy book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:07   what would you recommend you read of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:09   recent vintage i'd recommend i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:13   recommended this book a to a few people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:15   and and most of them will have I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   enjoyed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:18   although I have some friends who are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:20   very wary of that whole like george RR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:22   martin robert jordan disease of its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24   going two years and years before the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26   know the final book in the series comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28   out now but this is definitely one that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:31   i've recommended to several people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:32   that they seem to mostly enjoyed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:35   lies of locke lamora as i mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:36   before is another one that I often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   recommend and then probably you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:41   george RR martin you know in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   recent stuff but there's definitely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:44   older stuff i like it i'm a big fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:46   dark hour tom has as John i know is and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:51   i'm trying to think after that again if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:52   there's anything else that would really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:53   come up there like like terry pratchett [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:57   put you know he's kind of in a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:58   class i wouldn't recommend this book to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3238">TS</a>]

00:54:01   someone who want to get a fantasy just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:02   because I don't think it's I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:05   it's representative of the genre i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07   try to look for more prototypical book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:08   you know even if it was one that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:11   hadn't registered was more typical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:13   because this is kind of weird off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:14   beaten path and flabby and just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:17   if you're not into the fantasy genre you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19   want something that's gonna like hook [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:20   them and get them into I like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:22   example i would definitely recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:22   eyes the dragon we just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:24   my first fantasy book really simple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:27   Wizards little bit of magic but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:29   basically just like a simple story with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31   a beginning middle and end that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:33   self-contained it's not a book is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3273">TS</a>]

00:54:35   book 120 book series or anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:37   that that's the type of book I recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   if I knew more fantasy books i'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41   probably have a much better example that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:42   I that's that I have mentioned this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   other people most of the time saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46   that I that I thought it had some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:47   interesting elements but had many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   bad things are and so far it hasn't made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:52   any of the people i've mentioned it due [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:53   to go out and buy it and read it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:55   wonder why but I mean you never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3295">TS</a>]

00:54:58   like i said i said the same thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00   a friend of mine I told him about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02   dark tower series and talk about not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:06   wanting to get committed to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08   that's just going to be this gigantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:09   loose conglomeration of stuff that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:12   have spans 30 years that's a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:15   commitment but yeah there is enough to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:18   recommend that he actually go through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:20   and read the whole thing i feel kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:21   bad about that put its you never know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:24   like I i want to i want to give an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:25   accurate picture of a book that I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:26   to see what people are getting into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:27   someone was like I'm i might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29   interested in fantasy i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:31   don't know if i would recommend this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:32   book but if I given what i think is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   accurate description of what they can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:35   decide on their own if there was this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:37   what they want to sign up for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:39   well that's a that's a fair point out to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:42   you you imagine you saying if you want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:44   to read a crappy book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:45   not if you say so you're saying you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:48   like us if you read a lot of fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:50   books and you feel kind of burned out on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:51   it and you want to like read something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:53   to like maybe try to read fantasy again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:55   that will keep your interest like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57   that's what it did for me because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3357">TS</a>]

00:55:58   hadn't read fantasy and years and years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3358">TS</a>]

00:55:59   and every time i tried i didn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:00   anywhere in this book maybe read through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   it and i'll take the flip side of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04   and say that you know there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:05   people there are certainly a stigma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:06   attached to a fantasy in some settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:08   like you know I have friends who like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:10   now I can comment about magic and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12   wizards and Dragons and I think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:13   nothing here that's not sort of doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3373">TS</a>]

00:56:16   fall into those typical tropes and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:18   writing is very accessible and fun like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:21   it is like John says it's paige Turner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:22   if nothing else and i think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24   that's something that often recommends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:26   itself to people who are like a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:27   maybe mom might be a little like shy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29   away from your traditional fantasy books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31   because of the stigma attached to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   yeah we should all go out and recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35   22 all our friends and relatives and see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37   if anyone actually see you actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:38   reads it and what they think we'll find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:41   a control group and let's be scientific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   about this want to pick something off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:45   the street see if they liked it and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:46   we can determine been from that whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:47   or not it was a good book i think all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:50   all things told any book that I find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:53   entertaining and then i read and makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:55   you want to read the second book even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3415">TS</a>]

00:56:56   though it's four years in between is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3416">TS</a>]

00:56:59   successful book and i would recommend it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:00   so I say good job Patrick Rufus or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:05   whatever the heck you had job on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07   pronunciation first of all why didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:08   you pick your last name better exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:11   the first problem you you couldn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   your character names and you picked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:14   names that we can find a lightweight i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:16   guess we should be blessed there are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:17   posture peace in the name that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3437">TS</a>]

00:57:19   and i actually thought he did a good job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:21   if I never had to pronounce the names i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:23   talk names in a book about naming I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:25   thought the names were very good yes but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   I'm pretty weird every once in a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   there's a scene in a second book where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:30   he's telling a story or something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:32   your and one like talking to some kid or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34   something they refer to as Jimmy and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:36   was like every once in a while that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38   throws in a name that you're just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:39   that so yeah that was that was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:43   funny but yeah I would agree with Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   an overall think that this is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:46   def book that I read twice actually and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:49   enjoy because i read my so now the truth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   comes height i read the second time this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:54   year before because i wanted to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:55   because I have a very bad memory for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:56   these books like Scott I ready to cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58   several years ago and so I reread it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   before the second book came out because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:01   I sort of wanted to pick up the second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:03   book like a continuation of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3483">TS</a>]

00:58:04   book and I cannot imagine doing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:06   it's pretty good the second time i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:09   enjoyed i remembered i remembered some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:10   of it but not all of it when he posted a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:13   recap in cartoon form on his blog so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:17   read that and that was very helpful to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:18   get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:19   previously on the neighborhood wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   exactly there's very few books that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:23   reread they've gotten better or even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3503">TS</a>]

00:58:25   stayed the same on second reading most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:26   the time and second reading they get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:27   worse because the second reading I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:29   what's going to happen so my brain has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:31   more leftover cycles to to analyze the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:34   the you know the mechanics of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36   and the writing and end up let not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   liking it as much as I going one book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:39   that I read multiple times that does not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3519">TS</a>]

00:58:41   get worse on multiple readings and sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:43   of the ranks which I've read many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   times and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:45   you get better on multiple rings but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:47   doesn't it works either tasting I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:49   gonna have a podcast and there's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:51   be a podcast for John and I talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:52   Lord of the Rings and I tell him how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:53   much I really don't like lord of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:55   rings that I i can and i understand the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   reasons why people don't like it I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   just saying for me it doesn't get it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:01   doesn't get it doesn't get worse and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3541">TS</a>]

00:59:03   feel like to say the same words might I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:05   don't hate it but I i read the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07   themselves or not the stories are ok the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:09   book sorry it's not it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:11   for it's not for everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   the writing and everything at the store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15   I don't make the cut i guess but now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:18   just it's just what you're interested in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:20   like if you for example you ever read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:21   Michael Palin so nonfiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23   no well if you like he just travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:27   writing and I feel like you like travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29   writing you probably like lord of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:30   rings because a lot of it reads like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:32   fiction time here see sort of scenic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:37   Mordor seriously this huge swathes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39   that but they're just people like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:40   walking across the landscape and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:42   described in the landscape and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:43   ridiculous detail and if recommending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3583">TS</a>]

00:59:46   restaurants which always thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:47   weird but have you at the White Tower [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:49   and minus fear is it's great i mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:51   the ribs if you haven't read if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:54   Michael Palin but you should at least I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:56   think our netflix you should leave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3596">TS</a>]

00:59:57   swatch some of the video because he goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:59   around the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   around the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   travels and and films it and the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   are a little bit thicker than the travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:04   videos but they the show's themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3604">TS</a>]

01:00:06   are actually very entertaining great for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:07   long plane flight for something so are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:10   those are there's our fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:11   recommendation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:12   yeah Michael Palin full circle or any of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14   those other is very serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:16   alright well the robotic buzzing of John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:19   Syracuse's voice tells me that it's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3619">TS</a>]

01:00:21   that we've hit our our our long mark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:22   here so I'm going I'm going to wrap up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:25   and thank my guests Scott McNulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:28   the pleasure was all mine and john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:31   surtees this microphone better net ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:33   later just in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:35   just a little and thank you all for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3635">TS</a>]

01:00:37   listening I'm being more and we'll be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:39   we'll see you next time on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:41   we'll be watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:45   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3645">TS</a>]

01:00:49   I remember reading Lord of the Rings on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:52   a 160 x 160 pixel screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3652">TS</a>]

01:01:04   I'm full of corned beef [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZZOfoE/3664">TS</a>]