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328: Panspermia, but for Clothes

 

00:00:02   the incomparable number 320 a November [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2">TS</a>]

00:00:11   welcome back everybody to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/11">TS</a>]

00:00:12   uncomfortable i'm your host Jason Snell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/12">TS</a>]

00:00:14   we are going to do an unusual thing semi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/14">TS</a>]

00:00:16   unusual thing for the uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/16">TS</a>]

00:00:18   which is talk about a movie that is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/18">TS</a>]

00:00:19   theaters now as we record this it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/19">TS</a>]

00:00:22   November 2016 and a film released in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/22">TS</a>]

00:00:26   this very month is on our agenda we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/26">TS</a>]

00:00:30   going to talk about a rival directed by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/30">TS</a>]

00:00:34   Denny Villeneuve and starring Amy Adams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/34">TS</a>]

00:00:38   and jeremy renner along with forest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/38">TS</a>]

00:00:39   whitaker and some other interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/39">TS</a>]

00:00:41   people based on the ted chang story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/41">TS</a>]

00:00:44   story of your life which I i should i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/44">TS</a>]

00:00:47   should look up we discussed it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/47">TS</a>]

00:00:50   story and his entire collection in in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/50">TS</a>]

00:00:53   early episode of the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/53">TS</a>]

00:00:55   episode number 20 nope 3232 you can go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/55">TS</a>]

00:00:59   back to number 32 and here past us talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/59">TS</a>]

00:01:02   about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/62">TS</a>]

00:01:04   joining me to talk about arrival are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/64">TS</a>]

00:01:07   these three lovely people lean sims [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/67">TS</a>]

00:01:09   hello hello [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11   it's good to have you here thank you i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13   excited to talk about this amazing movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/73">TS</a>]

00:01:16   I loved spoilers John siracusa is also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/76">TS</a>]

00:01:20   here is was will be something like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/80">TS</a>]

00:01:23   hi John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/83">TS</a>]

00:01:23   yeah it's kinda seems like I've always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25   been here and yet I haven't arrived yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27   Glenn fleischmann was joining us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/87">TS</a>]

00:01:31   always joins us hi Glenn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/91">TS</a>]

00:01:34   hi I can't tell you how hard it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/94">TS</a>]

00:01:36   we're talking about the story is a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/96">TS</a>]

00:01:37   years ago do not mention this episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/97">TS</a>]

00:01:38   but i did it i pulled it off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/98">TS</a>]

00:01:40   that's good that's good heptapod be and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/100">TS</a>]

00:01:43   of course I don't know why of course he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/103">TS</a>]

00:01:45   saw the movie and I want to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/105">TS</a>]

00:01:47   its just oh hi Joe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/107">TS</a>]

00:01:49   hello you were one of the motivators for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/109">TS</a>]

00:01:51   me to finally pull the trigger on on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   this because you're like I have things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55   would like to say I'm like alright so do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/115">TS</a>]

00:01:56   I let's do it let's make it happen our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/116">TS</a>]

00:01:58   friend Erica and sign can't be here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00   because she's traveling we're recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/120">TS</a>]

00:02:01   this just before Thanksgiving and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/121">TS</a>]

00:02:03   traveling to the United States for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/123">TS</a>]

00:02:04   thanksgiving but but out at a key moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/124">TS</a>]

00:02:07   we will interject something that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/127">TS</a>]

00:02:09   wanted to make known about goal this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/129">TS</a>]

00:02:11   film so that's exciting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/131">TS</a>]

00:02:13   everybody stay tuned stay tuned for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/133">TS</a>]

00:02:15   it's a it's a good officer is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17   the first review of it i read excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19   very similar observation and it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/139">TS</a>]

00:02:20   good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/140">TS</a>]

00:02:21   so this is a movie like a so many about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/141">TS</a>]

00:02:24   aliens appearing on earth and you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/144">TS</a>]

00:02:28   probably guess what will happen next and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/148">TS</a>]

00:02:31   pretty much none of those things happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/151">TS</a>]

00:02:34   i think that's that's my opening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/154">TS</a>]

00:02:36   statement is one of the I mean I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/156">TS</a>]

00:02:37   what was going to happen because i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   the short story five years ago but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41   really enjoy how it's on one level it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/161">TS</a>]

00:02:46   like 50 other movies and yet when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/166">TS</a>]

00:02:49   get a little of that level it is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/169">TS</a>]

00:02:51   like very many other movies at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/171">TS</a>]

00:02:53   I i really like that about it what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/173">TS</a>]

00:02:55   you all what did you all do you all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/175">TS</a>]

00:02:57   think about the the concept of this of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59   this movie the basic concept but i'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/179">TS</a>]

00:03:01   huge fan up the short story i'd say the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/181">TS</a>]

00:03:04   story is which I reread after seeing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/184">TS</a>]

00:03:07   film I don't want to spoil my memory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09   that gets into the home phone itself i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/189">TS</a>]

00:03:11   don't remember too well when I was about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/191">TS</a>]

00:03:13   to see and it's a story that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/193">TS</a>]

00:03:16   about all the time like I would say not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/196">TS</a>]

00:03:19   a month goes by that the story doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/199">TS</a>]

00:03:20   pop up my thoughts in some ways are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22   reminded by it over the many years since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/202">TS</a>]

00:03:24   i first read it because it it has this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/204">TS</a>]

00:03:29   residence to me about especially since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/209">TS</a>]

00:03:31   becoming a parent because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/211">TS</a>]

00:03:33   there's something deep in a story of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/213">TS</a>]

00:03:36   your life about parenthood but also it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/216">TS</a>]

00:03:41   a rollicking sci-fi story that has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/221">TS</a>]

00:03:42   really interesting elements that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/222">TS</a>]

00:03:43   almost unique to the story that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/223">TS</a>]

00:03:46   almost don't see in the whole of science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48   fiction which is kinda Ted Chang thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50   that he said he does so many stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/230">TS</a>]

00:03:52   that are almost three generous you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/232">TS</a>]

00:03:55   you know you're like how I rented [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/235">TS</a>]

00:03:56   anywhere else like no no not exactly so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/236">TS</a>]

00:03:59   watching in the movie i had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/239">TS</a>]

00:04:00   medicine sation of kind of knowing what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/240">TS</a>]

00:04:03   the whole movie is going to be about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/243">TS</a>]

00:04:04   which is perfect for this film but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/244">TS</a>]

00:04:06   really knowing what I was what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/246">TS</a>]

00:04:10   about to see so I had that overlay on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/250">TS</a>]

00:04:13   as well I went into this i knew nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/253">TS</a>]

00:04:16   about it I hadn't read the short story I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/256">TS</a>]

00:04:18   don't even know if I knew there was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/258">TS</a>]

00:04:19   short story I hadn't seen a trailer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/259">TS</a>]

00:04:22   I just had a bunch of friends who saw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   more like wow that was astounding as so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/264">TS</a>]

00:04:28   I one of them being you Jason text my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/268">TS</a>]

00:04:32   husband from lake in the middle of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/272">TS</a>]

00:04:34   class that i was teaching was like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/274">TS</a>]

00:04:36   you can see the movie tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/276">TS</a>]

00:04:37   and so we went I and i loved it so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/277">TS</a>]

00:04:43   there's so much that is extremely well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/283">TS</a>]

00:04:45   done and I i do have some quibbles but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/285">TS</a>]

00:04:48   by and large the the entire thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/288">TS</a>]

00:04:52   thought was really really beautiful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/292">TS</a>]

00:04:55   both from lake at a cinematic mood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/295">TS</a>]

00:04:58   setting standpoint and I thought amy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/298">TS</a>]

00:05:02   adams was absolutely amazing she did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/302">TS</a>]

00:05:05   such a great job in that role and I felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/305">TS</a>]

00:05:08   a little betrayed that I said jeremy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10   renner movie but I gotta ask that and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/310">TS</a>]

00:05:14   i really loved it like I walked out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16   there my husband we do a rating system [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/316">TS</a>]

00:05:18   when we see movies or whatever and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/318">TS</a>]

00:05:20   was like okay so how many stars and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/320">TS</a>]

00:05:21   was like this is a solid like four and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/321">TS</a>]

00:05:23   half stars movie for me it is one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/323">TS</a>]

00:05:25   best movies i've seen in a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/325">TS</a>]

00:05:29   he's wrong he gave it three and a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31   but it wasn't the best movies that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33   have seen and we're gonna have you said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/333">TS</a>]

00:05:35   he trashed three-and-a-half is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/335">TS</a>]

00:05:37   trashing it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/337">TS</a>]

00:05:38   he no no he didn't trash it but he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/338">TS</a>]

00:05:42   didn't love it on the level that i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/342">TS</a>]

00:05:45   and i think part of that is some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/345">TS</a>]

00:05:48   stuff that Erica wanted to bring up that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/348">TS</a>]

00:05:49   will talk about after the spoiler home [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/349">TS</a>]

00:05:51   porn goes off so earn and but yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/351">TS</a>]

00:05:54   think from a gender perspective from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/354">TS</a>]

00:05:56   seeing people represented in movies who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/356">TS</a>]

00:05:58   are like me this did better than any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   movie that I've seen in maybe ever and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/360">TS</a>]

00:06:03   but we'll talk about that later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/363">TS</a>]

00:06:04   I just learned that there will be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/364">TS</a>]

00:06:06   spoiler horn coming up so i will pilot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/366">TS</a>]

00:06:09   the ship accordingly Joe do you have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/369">TS</a>]

00:06:11   initial thoughts that you want to share [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/371">TS</a>]

00:06:12   about arrival I like a clean i had not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/372">TS</a>]

00:06:16   read the short story and if I ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   listened to the comfortable episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/378">TS</a>]

00:06:20   about it i completely forgot which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/380">TS</a>]

00:06:21   how i do most of the book episodes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/381">TS</a>]

00:06:23   then I usually remember that i wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/383">TS</a>]

00:06:26   read something based on what you had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/386">TS</a>]

00:06:27   talked about and eventually get around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/387">TS</a>]

00:06:29   to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/389">TS</a>]

00:06:29   we call that the modified McNulty rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/389">TS</a>]

00:06:31   which is a few of you you for even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   forget about listening to podcast about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/393">TS</a>]

00:06:35   books you might read yeah and it's so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37   worked it worked out okay in terms of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39   like the movie but now i have tried to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/399">TS</a>]

00:06:40   go back and read the book I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/400">TS</a>]

00:06:42   manage before this podcast though and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/402">TS</a>]

00:06:45   know going into it that the two are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/405">TS</a>]

00:06:48   directly related in enough of a way that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50   would seriously impact my movie-going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/410">TS</a>]

00:06:53   experience so i'm a i'm kind of a happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/413">TS</a>]

00:06:57   that I did get the the fresh take on it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   I wasn't worried about any sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/419">TS</a>]

00:07:02   divergence from from the plot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04   book and I I should specify it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/424">TS</a>]

00:07:06   even a book it's a short stories about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/426">TS</a>]

00:07:07   70 pages long in in a collection of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/427">TS</a>]

00:07:09   short stories called stories of your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/429">TS</a>]

00:07:10   life and others but the actual story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/430">TS</a>]

00:07:12   story of your life is about 70 pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14   long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/434">TS</a>]

00:07:14   it's not exciting but not quite a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16   novella right it's like yeah maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/436">TS</a>]

00:07:17   a short novella is its short story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/437">TS</a>]

00:07:19   feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/439">TS</a>]

00:07:20   yeah i just started with the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   of the book in there it's like some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   Babylon tower thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/444">TS</a>]

00:07:25   oh yeah that's that's a pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/445">TS</a>]

00:07:26   story but they're not related you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/446">TS</a>]

00:07:27   you don't have to read them anymore but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   I like that one too that was weird is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/449">TS</a>]

00:07:31   he's a good writer like just wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/451">TS</a>]

00:07:32   get some context did her the will get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/452">TS</a>]

00:07:35   done but still but now I i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/455">TS</a>]

00:07:38   execution of this movie like being said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40   I do have some quibbles with it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42   particularly in terms of execution of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/462">TS</a>]

00:07:45   some hair or something um ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   yeah but the overall i have really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/467">TS</a>]

00:07:51   positive feelings about about what I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   and I think part of that is the film's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/473">TS</a>]

00:07:56   optimistic a tone that it sets in spite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/476">TS</a>]

00:08:02   of a certain bittersweet moments that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/482">TS</a>]

00:08:04   you might have in your life so i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06   look forward to discussing that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/486">TS</a>]

00:08:09   right today so I'm it's like I'm drawing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11   opening statements out of people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13   have not John you have some initial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/493">TS</a>]

00:08:14   thoughts before we blow the spoiler horn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/494">TS</a>]

00:08:16   I guess I'm the third one who also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   didn't read the short story and may or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/498">TS</a>]

00:08:20   may not have listened to the incompetent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/500">TS</a>]

00:08:22   episode about and i'm pretty sure i did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/502">TS</a>]

00:08:23   but i think like it wasn't one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/503">TS</a>]

00:08:25   ones where you you talk about a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27   things and I think I may be managed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/507">TS</a>]

00:08:28   talk about this story without actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/508">TS</a>]

00:08:30   spoiling it because I I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/510">TS</a>]

00:08:32   probably about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/512">TS</a>]

00:08:33   yeah i think we talked about the flavor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/513">TS</a>]

00:08:34   of the shape of it yeah yeah i didn't i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/514">TS</a>]

00:08:36   didn't know how it was gonna turn out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/516">TS</a>]

00:08:37   but it's not like I was watching oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/517">TS</a>]

00:08:39   I kind of know this is gonna turn out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/519">TS</a>]

00:08:40   like i didn't i didn't had no memory of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   it at all and I and likely not mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/522">TS</a>]

00:08:46   went to it based on Jason's raves it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/526">TS</a>]

00:08:50   a couple of the people said good things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/530">TS</a>]

00:08:51   about to but you were raving about him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/531">TS</a>]

00:08:52   like ah right well then I guess what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   took the whole family because I figured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   what the heck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/536">TS</a>]

00:08:56   although my daughter was bored by it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/536">TS</a>]

00:08:59   yeah I i we didn't take the kids because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/539">TS</a>]

00:09:02   i figured that they would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/542">TS</a>]

00:09:04   keyboard yeah it's a little slow but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/544">TS</a>]

00:09:06   anyway I'm I i had seen the trailers a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   little bit of the trailers I had avoided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10   any spoilers that it wasn't spoiled for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12   this movie and and I wanted to see it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   kind of the same way I see a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/554">TS</a>]

00:09:15   movies where I feel like I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/555">TS</a>]

00:09:17   support the kind of movie I like to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   made and even if I didn't like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/559">TS</a>]

00:09:22   movie at all like well it's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/562">TS</a>]

00:09:24   kind of seems like serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/564">TS</a>]

00:09:27   character-driven sci-fi stories and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/567">TS</a>]

00:09:29   more I wish there was more of those like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/569">TS</a>]

00:09:31   it doesn't always have to be you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/571">TS</a>]

00:09:32   Marvel movie are you blowing up aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   or even like a space opera star wars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/574">TS</a>]

00:09:36   like you know just playing outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/576">TS</a>]

00:09:37   families just not enough that's what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38   reason I see oblivion even though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   not great you know just like i watch i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42   watch almost anything that promises to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   be a semi-serious sci-fi movie and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   thought this movie was executed in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/586">TS</a>]

00:09:49   interesting way and told the story that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/589">TS</a>]

00:09:53   I hadn't seen you know told in movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   that often i think i like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/595">TS</a>]

00:09:58   probably less than everybody else's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   opinion ever heard so far but i totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/600">TS</a>]

00:10:03   want there to be more movies like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   and I appreciate a lot of things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/605">TS</a>]

00:10:06   this movie is just it the story in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/606">TS</a>]

00:10:09   end doesn't hold together for me but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/609">TS</a>]

00:10:12   just don't I ask you one question about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/612">TS</a>]

00:10:14   the film which is if you had this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16   reaction which was that the depiction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18   like setting stuff up in a tent and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/618">TS</a>]

00:10:21   kind of stuff that computers were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/621">TS</a>]

00:10:22   seemed actually okay like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/622">TS</a>]

00:10:26   it struck me as not exaggerating the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/626">TS</a>]

00:10:28   potential even though we can tell it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/628">TS</a>]

00:10:30   maybe slightly in the future I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/630">TS</a>]

00:10:31   sure maybe tiny bit that it felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/631">TS</a>]

00:10:34   realistic and earthy that was that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   least of my concerns like this point i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/636">TS</a>]

00:10:38   so so willing to you know they it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/638">TS</a>]

00:10:41   beneath the level of my concern if i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/641">TS</a>]

00:10:43   let you have to really be egregiously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45   terrible at showing technology from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/645">TS</a>]

00:10:48   to notice at this point and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/648">TS</a>]

00:10:49   everything was fine and notice the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51   little bit of the idea of like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/651">TS</a>]

00:10:53   beautiful design graphics showing when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/653">TS</a>]

00:10:55   people are the countries are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/655">TS</a>]

00:10:56   disconnected as a as a movie isn't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/656">TS</a>]

00:10:59   jumped out a little bit i have no that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01   not part of what I the problems i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/661">TS</a>]

00:11:03   haven't I can't really talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/663">TS</a>]

00:11:04   spoiling I only bring it up because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06   I feel like there's also some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/666">TS</a>]

00:11:07   science-fiction movies are spoiled for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/667">TS</a>]

00:11:09   me now because I feel like some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/669">TS</a>]

00:11:10   fundamental stuff they're showing not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   just the technology but the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/672">TS</a>]

00:11:14   interaction what things are expected to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/674">TS</a>]

00:11:15   do break for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/675">TS</a>]

00:11:17   so much i can't get over the suspension [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/677">TS</a>]

00:11:18   of disbelief there's too much and radium [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20   without enough story underneath it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22   this case I felt like that they depicted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/682">TS</a>]

00:11:24   technology realistically and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26   plainly in the middle of what was a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/686">TS</a>]

00:11:28   technologically sophisticated thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/688">TS</a>]

00:11:30   happening and that to me maybe know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32   more I felt more real to meet and feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/692">TS</a>]

00:11:33   distant you had a light touch with all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/693">TS</a>]

00:11:36   that stuff like they weren't the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38   movie had a light touch which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/698">TS</a>]

00:11:39   appreciated but they weren't going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41   tell that the events that took place uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/701">TS</a>]

00:11:45   and very often were like oh I've seen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   seen like this in 55 movies but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/707">TS</a>]

00:11:50   weren't shown the way they're normally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/710">TS</a>]

00:11:53   shown and the things they would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/713">TS</a>]

00:11:54   would expect them to do well on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   like actually that's not what we really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58   care about this movie I mean the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/718">TS</a>]

00:11:59   the opening of the movies is a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   tell because it doesn't open with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/721">TS</a>]

00:12:03   know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/723">TS</a>]

00:12:03   ominous throwing and pictures of space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/723">TS</a>]

00:12:06   and aliens like it'sit's a human story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/726">TS</a>]

00:12:09   starts with it with the our main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/729">TS</a>]

00:12:11   character narrating and it's about her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/731">TS</a>]

00:12:13   for the entire movie essentially and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   she tells a story and it like it starts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/735">TS</a>]

00:12:18   the same way you can imagine like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   family drama starting or something you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/740">TS</a>]

00:12:23   know what I mean like that and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/743">TS</a>]

00:12:24   that's how the movie plays throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   and it's almost almost incidental that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28   there's this alien syfy angle to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30   really is a character-driven story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/750">TS</a>]

00:12:32   you know except this is I would love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34   see more movies like this because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/754">TS</a>]

00:12:35   think this is a great combination of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/755">TS</a>]

00:12:38   know serious character-driven story with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/758">TS</a>]

00:12:41   a sci-fi setting thrown in shot in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/761">TS</a>]

00:12:44   interesting way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/764">TS</a>]

00:12:45   so before we before we dive into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/765">TS</a>]

00:12:47   spoilers are a couple of the topics that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/767">TS</a>]

00:12:48   I wanted to at least mention that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/768">TS</a>]

00:12:49   think are our kind of free of the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51   of this movie and it's this this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/771">TS</a>]

00:12:53   has some plot i don't know if i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/773">TS</a>]

00:12:56   say twist but it has some surprises [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/776">TS</a>]

00:12:57   throughout that I think it's better I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/777">TS</a>]

00:13:01   think aliens suggestion that we use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03   spoiler horn is is is a good one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05   although it one of the things i will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/785">TS</a>]

00:13:06   now is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/786">TS</a>]

00:13:08   I don't feel like this is a puzzle box [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/788">TS</a>]

00:13:09   movie where the goal is to solve the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   puzzle or be surprised by the puzzle i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13   think it's in it enjoyable story all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/793">TS</a>]

00:13:16   way through even though there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/796">TS</a>]

00:13:17   surprises as it goes but i really wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/797">TS</a>]

00:13:20   to bring up i want to bring up the eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/800">TS</a>]

00:13:22   can see direction i could say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/802">TS</a>]

00:13:24   cinematography it this i think this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/804">TS</a>]

00:13:27   movie looks really good and then also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/807">TS</a>]

00:13:30   the muse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/810">TS</a>]

00:13:30   sick it sounds really good just on those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/810">TS</a>]

00:13:33   levels i think the pacing of it the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/813">TS</a>]

00:13:36   it's shot especially a lot of this takes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   place out in the field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   I mean there's like there's a there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/820">TS</a>]

00:13:41   house on a lake and there's a which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/821">TS</a>]

00:13:44   beautiful but there's this field in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/824">TS</a>]

00:13:45   Montana or Wyoming or wherever they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   out out and on the plains there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/827">TS</a>]

00:13:49   field with a big spaceship hovering over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/829">TS</a>]

00:13:53   it sort of and it's just slow camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/833">TS</a>]

00:13:57   movements and beautiful beautifully shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/837">TS</a>]

00:14:00   and I just think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02   beautiful-looking movie and a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/842">TS</a>]

00:14:03   restrained movie and I talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/843">TS</a>]

00:14:08   john-john saying i wanna i wanna have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   more movies like this there are so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/850">TS</a>]

00:14:13   especially genre movies that are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/853">TS</a>]

00:14:15   restrained and this is a very restrained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   movie you can see the sort of discipline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/857">TS</a>]

00:14:20   we're going to take our time we're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22   to move slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/862">TS</a>]

00:14:23   we're not going to push this too fast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   and I really like really liked all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/865">TS</a>]

00:14:27   that in the look and the feel of it i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/867">TS</a>]

00:14:29   so glad you said to restring these I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/869">TS</a>]

00:14:30   thinking restraint was the thing is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/870">TS</a>]

00:14:32   quiet in spots they have their time the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/872">TS</a>]

00:14:35   alien ships are not fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/875">TS</a>]

00:14:36   we don't know anything about how they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38   work really it's not important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/878">TS</a>]

00:14:40   it reminds me of some 1960 sci-fi films [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/880">TS</a>]

00:14:43   are some really elaborate stuff in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/883">TS</a>]

00:14:44   sixties it goes way over the top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46   course but then there's a few quieter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/886">TS</a>]

00:14:48   films that are very spare and restrained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/888">TS</a>]

00:14:51   some avant-garde movies that aren't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/891">TS</a>]

00:14:52   sci-fi but they're slightly magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/892">TS</a>]

00:14:54   realistic where things happen unfold in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/894">TS</a>]

00:14:57   a way that doesn't seem entirely linear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   I was thinking particularly of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/899">TS</a>]

00:15:01   original solaris which is more active [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/901">TS</a>]

00:15:03   and has more kind of a sci-fi vibe to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/903">TS</a>]

00:15:06   and this film does in this bill has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/906">TS</a>]

00:15:08   aliens in it but it has moments in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10   solaris there's just this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/910">TS</a>]

00:15:11   repetitive thing or quietness or someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/911">TS</a>]

00:15:14   staring and it has more power because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/914">TS</a>]

00:15:16   it's not genetic it's wonderful and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/916">TS</a>]

00:15:19   want to try some similarities i guess to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   contact if people are you know thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/921">TS</a>]

00:15:23   about ya dip it was much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/923">TS</a>]

00:15:26   conventional this so much more democracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   yeah but it's it's still the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/928">TS</a>]

00:15:33   story they're trying to tell about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/933">TS</a>]

00:15:34   person and their interaction with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/934">TS</a>]

00:15:36   something beyond it's not it's not as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/936">TS</a>]

00:15:40   space opera ask it took it so seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/940">TS</a>]

00:15:44   serious on by i mean i think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/944">TS</a>]

00:15:46   diverge widely at in terms of how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/946">TS</a>]

00:15:49   they care about character versus how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/949">TS</a>]

00:15:50   much they care about the science but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/950">TS</a>]

00:15:52   both of them i would file as serious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/952">TS</a>]

00:15:55   sci-fi movies made essentially for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/955">TS</a>]

00:15:58   adults and it's just that I I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/958">TS</a>]

00:16:01   everyone contact is so much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/961">TS</a>]

00:16:02   conventional in terms of just how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/962">TS</a>]

00:16:05   everything is shot how everything is lit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/965">TS</a>]

00:16:08   the the events to take place the music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/968">TS</a>]

00:16:11   everything about it this is arrivals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13   almost more like an arthouse movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/973">TS</a>]

00:16:16   compared to contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/976">TS</a>]

00:16:17   yeah but they they are in terms of most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/977">TS</a>]

00:16:20   what movie is this movie's most like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/980">TS</a>]

00:16:23   that's probably what I would say is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/983">TS</a>]

00:16:25   contact and the only other alternative I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/985">TS</a>]

00:16:28   could I could come up with is probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/988">TS</a>]

00:16:30   christopher nolan movie like memento or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/990">TS</a>]

00:16:34   the prestige which are which are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/994">TS</a>]

00:16:36   different movies and yet there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/996">TS</a>]

00:16:37   something about the vibe of this that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/997">TS</a>]

00:16:39   reminded me of some of those the non bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/999">TS</a>]

00:16:41   man Christopher Nolan movies uh I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:44   know that those the best ones that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:46   could come up with but I think contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1006">TS</a>]

00:16:47   is probably the the most comparable ha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   whoo yeah not not in terms of execution [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:52   of no no ya didn't watch solaris good i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:55   think that was a good comparison the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   original solaris no it's just I yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   find it i find that kind of beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:00   and and gentlemen a lot of ways that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:02   know so many movies assault us and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:04   nice to feel like again this is a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1024">TS</a>]

00:17:07   that i think that's what John is getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09   out this is this is a sci-fi movie for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:10   adults like it is it is defiantly for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:13   adults it's not for bring the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15   family and I think even though you can I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   mean there's not many other than some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19   language you it's fine i just think kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:20   will be kinda bored and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:21   teenagers will probably be bored bored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1041">TS</a>]

00:17:23   by 2 because it's not like single and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25   make it an older kid can get wrapped up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27   in it because it's one of those movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:28   where like it's slow but if you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30   caught up in it that slowness that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:32   tension that's like you're looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1052">TS</a>]

00:17:34   every you have enough times there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36   the little rough texture on the edge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:37   the little tunnel going up into the ship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:39   you haven't had time to think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:40   these things and to dwell on them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42   and to look at the mist covering the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44   field and like I feel like kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:46   I said like jaws but kind of like it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:48   lot of the older movies from decades [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1068">TS</a>]

00:17:51   past where they were slow paced and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53   don't grab you it's just like a boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:54   movie but they do grab you that slow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:56   pace is like you just feel like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:57   being pulled along by string through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:58   whole movie you just you just can't wait [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00   to see it unfold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:01   I've got another comp by the way I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   gonna throw in here the slowness and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:04   restrain this actually reminded me of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1084">TS</a>]

00:18:06   unbreakable a little bit which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1086">TS</a>]

00:18:07   movie i love oh yeah there's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:09   definitely Shyamalan anything here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1089">TS</a>]

00:18:11   yeah i'm yeah looks good the good kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13   of a good point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:14   not the kind where there's an elevator [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1094">TS</a>]

00:18:15   that's the devil but I you said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   didn't think this was a puzzle box movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19   and I agree it's not you're not trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:20   to like figure it out but I feel like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:23   the turn in this movie I wouldn't call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1103">TS</a>]

00:18:24   the twist that were called the turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:25   yeah the turn in this movie because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:27   didn't know anything about the short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:28   story i really appreciate it because i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:30   felt like it kind of like blossomed as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:34   realize what they were doing right in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   pleasant way I in a way that made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:40   appreciate that you think that was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:41   high point of the movie for me when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   when I realized what they were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:44   like are you know around the turn part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   kind of want a little bit downhill after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:48   but when I realized what they were doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   timeline wise kind of like another thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:52   that that's another piece of media that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:55   we won't talk about because we want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1135">TS</a>]

00:18:56   spoil that and this particular podcast I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1136">TS</a>]

00:19:00   I appreciate that unlike a big smile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   came across my face and like very well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:05   done because I need you know just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:06   ripples backwards and you realize with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   the hoping of the movie and what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:09   were getting at was like good job i felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:12   like giving them a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:13   applause there and that's a pleasant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   sensation better than the haha didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   you know the twist was whatever like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   was totally even even the twist was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   gentle twist was a turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:23   yeah no you're right this does uh the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1163">TS</a>]

00:19:25   film does exactly what the story doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:27   that's one of the qualities that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:28   captures which we can talk about more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:29   for the spoiler but it diffuses what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:32   learn sort of backwards and forward in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:35   time so it actually rebuild in your mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:38   what you think you've just read or seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:39   and the film did it i want to say almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:42   perfectly they had a structured [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44   differently in the in the story some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46   the stuff comes later they don't shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48   what that he doesn't want to them i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:49   think give you too much of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:50   information but you have to present [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52   visually you have to keep people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54   because otherwise it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:55   sudden twist and it wouldn't make sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:56   so the way they kind of rippled it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58   the film i think was the perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:01   cinematic analog to what the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:04   unfolded as alright I am going to now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:06   play a a transcript of the alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:10   language as heard in the movie arrival [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   no it's actually it's just the spoiler [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   horn but they're similar here it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:19   ok whoo boy that you right up oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:23   it's it makes a circle with any way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:26   see the spoiler horn so i can understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1226">TS</a>]

00:20:28   what this one's trying to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:29   yeah okay all all spoilers have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:32   cleared now we can now talk about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:35   happened what happens in this movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:38   you know it's the thing knowing having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:42   read the story the very beginning of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:45   movie i actually said this to Lauren [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1245">TS</a>]

00:20:47   when we were walking out to the car at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1247">TS</a>]

00:20:48   the end i said it's there in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:51   line like the first line of the movie is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   I used to think that your story began [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55   here but now I'm not so sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:57   right so it sits there from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1257">TS</a>]

00:21:00   beginning and what a move [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:02   I mean I guess up like maybe up to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:05   to hear want to move to have the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:08   part of this movie it's okay we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10   go see a movie about aliens and it's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:12   it's actually about a mother caring for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:13   her dying child and then the child dies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15   Wow okay that's that's where we start I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:18   was bawling to my friend of mine said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20   she'd said I cried heavily three times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22   during the film I was crying two minutes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24   and I was like oh they already just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26   totally got their hooks in me I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   crying during the during the trailers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:29   plan to discover bad those movies aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:33   that bad oh you know it is it is well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:36   because what it sets it as the tone of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38   the movie is you're watching a story of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:41   a woman who is trying to piece her life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   back together after a horrible tragedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:45   which is not what the movie is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:48   you're actually watching and it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:51   interesting to me because there are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53   lot of and I don't know parallels isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:56   exactly the right word but there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:57   things that i can very deeply relate to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59   you i have several several sets of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:02   friends who have actually lost their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:03   daughters to childhood cancer and and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:06   have been there and supported them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08   through that and and I have been there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10   in the aftermath of that and watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   them do that work and so I was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:15   wow ok and i also teach college classes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:21   and somehow watching her go to school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:24   and like having this this level of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26   empathy for her is she's like I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:29   you know we're trying trying to teach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:31   students and move on with her life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33   and you know go home and talk with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:36   mom and like all of the stuff I'm like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:37   you know how how does like feel after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:41   that you know from from her perspective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:43   and so I was like I can't imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:45   teaching class you know after my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47   daughter died and and in keeping it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   together and in teaching about languages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   and and how do you find your purpose in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:54   that and you know like all of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:55   things so it was like immediately I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:58   like oh wow this is right in the feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   right in the feels right off the bat i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:03   also thought about but I was also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:04   thinking during that whole section where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:06   is the other parent for this child and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08   it was like a first-time light is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   bad movie making where they didn't cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:12   that part it's not important and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:14   like well no this is just more part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:15   her very tragic story that she's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:17   raising this girl alone and she asked to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19   help this girl died alone like that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21   know that that's part of the tragedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:22   evidence that and and I like the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   that my my questions and puzzling about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:27   that were nicely then logically answered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:31   later in the movie you know after the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:32   turn their addressed in the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34   because at one point there's that scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   where she's helping her daughter do her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38   homework and says I just didn't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   father it was science ask your father [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:43   yeah that's not like he's out of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:44   picture like yeah you know that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:46   that they split so hard that he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:49   didn't want to have anything to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1429">TS</a>]

00:23:50   the daughter anymore or you know like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:53   yeah any day that that's that's that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:56   where I consider the turn to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1436">TS</a>]

00:23:58   happened is probably way before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:00   movie thinks it's revealing it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1440">TS</a>]

00:24:02   they did leave lots of clues right so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:04   probably the pieces like right yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:05   exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:07   you know I mean and also law of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:08   conservation of characters and so on and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   so forth but I it doesn't matter where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:12   it occurs i think it was it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:13   nice it was this is a sturdily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15   constructed turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:17   yeah that no matter where you get it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:19   satisfying and and yea and all and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:23   really helps that all those scenes work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:26   both before you know and they work after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:28   and it's not like they only work after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:31   or they may you know like it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33   just good movie making you know i won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35   ask folks we have read the story I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:37   didn't even understand this alien until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:38   you just said it is one of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:40   things came up I was so wrapped up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   seeing the story i love on screen and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:43   was a niners to the time sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:45   because I dread it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:46   so the daughter we see her you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:47   dying and then the mothers it's good no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:50   Louise is teaching I never thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52   that as the emotional reaction of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   daughter just died like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:55   chronological sequence and she's back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:58   teaching and this is why she looks sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1498">TS</a>]

00:24:59   of morose because I knew the order of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1499">TS</a>]

00:25:01   things happening it never struck me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:03   until you decide and straight until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:04   just said that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:05   yeah I met and how douchey process the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   arrival of aliens it's like you're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   your thinking when you watch that scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:10   it's all about that she's coping with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:13   this loss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:13   he's not actually what you're saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:14   yeah because it's very traditionally it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:17   in terms of the mechanics of traditional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19   movie making these would-be flashbacks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:21   because we haven't seen the movie yet so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:23   I that not only makes logical sense if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:27   you if you're not familiar with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:28   story I and one of the other interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:30   things that they didn't use a flash [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:33   forward flashbacks is that they she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:36   looks exactly the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   they didn't do any aging makeup or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:41   other touch-up work or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1541">TS</a>]

00:25:43   she always looks like amy adams of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:46   present throughout the entire film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48   whenever she's in one of these altered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:49   time states and i think at first I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:53   wasn't sure why they chose to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:55   but then after you find out what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:57   twist is it's like oh because if you saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:58   an old Amy Adams with her child has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:02   alive for 20-something years then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   isn't was willing to accept it in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   movie it made it seem like she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:07   entertained but I don't they probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1567">TS</a>]

00:26:08   were careful with it that's the one part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:10   of this movie that probably doesn't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12   the same in both directions only because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:14   they're trying to not give anything away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:17   they're subtle but I had that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   ecology age as well I mean I probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   just put on less makeup and hit her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:22   crow's feet less well and maybe did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24   little touch-up on the hair but honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:26   you know various not as if you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:27   to change to a wrinkled old hag and 15 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:30   years especially if you you know that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:33   the only thing that the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35   struck me about this both isn't it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:37   a timeline question is the story of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:39   she comes from a family that makes your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1599">TS</a>]

00:26:42   independently wealthy because there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:43   way and a professor salary that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   have the house in the lac all by herself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:47   there's a lot of those fantasy movie as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:49   it was a beautiful house apparently the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   house when they when they went into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53   home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:54   and Ryan you know what the hell of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   place it isn't that the show is in case [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:58   shot and came back I thought it was out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00   here actually yeah it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   exactly like washing it looks like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:03   Washington I had that same thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:05   just assumed that she was in seattle and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:06   that was exhausted and open and since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:09   since the author is from seattle right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:11   doesn't change that from seeing exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   that is why do I assume that that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:14   was at least an homage to that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16   nothing else I think so I mean I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:17   they set up the community in the college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19   that she teaches at a community college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21   what has that feeling of like a 1960s [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23   built Community College just the brick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:26   and whatever so lean this is the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28   where we should talk since since makeup [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   and Amy Adams came up we should talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:31   about this and it's something and like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   said in the review that i read to which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:35   is Amy Adams look this is a movie Amy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   Adams is made up in this movie but she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:40   not made up to be like glamorous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:44   glamorous yeah she's made up to be like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:46   a person living their life and that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:50   not usually what happens when women are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:54   in movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:55   yeah yeah and and I think as I said at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:59   the beginning I think that's part of why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:00   i love this movie so much as it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   because and I mean there are a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:05   ways that can relate to her but one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1685">TS</a>]

00:28:07   them is a I don't wear makeup everyday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:10   and some days I don't even brush my hair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:12   I work from home so and often work from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:15   home so you know it in there were times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:18   when it it looked like she had gone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:21   directly from her cot on site to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:25   computer to you know they're the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:28   no blueprints of of the language or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   whatever and and I loved that because at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:33   no point was she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:36   well okay one point she was an address [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   to the nines with every hair in place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:39   right but the rest of the time she just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41   looked normal and that's not something I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:44   get in movies you know we get hair is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:47   precisely in place and perfect you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:50   whatever winged eyeliner i don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52   really know what that means if you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:54   things like that and so it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:57   refreshing to see someone look real to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:01   see a woman look real in a movie and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:04   only that she looked real and she was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:07   respected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:08   yeah and not only was she respected she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:11   turned them away like she did not bow to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:14   the government you know too that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:16   what does this rank colonel-general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:17   whatever he was her and all she did he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:20   she was like okay walk away I'm better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1760">TS</a>]

00:29:23   you ask him this question you come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:24   to me you will come back to me in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:27   she was just honest you're strong and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29   amazing and respected and real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:32   throughout the movie in a way that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:33   don't know that I've ever seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:37   can I ask you about there's a scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:38   early on that I thought set the tone too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40   is when they go into 10 and ian is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   introduced and she is not reduced unlike [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:45   the colonel is doing that typical thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:46   of these disrespecting woman that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48   gonna be a plot point that he takes her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:50   to the other tenses she this is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:51   team you're in charge and I went oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   god this is not what I was expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:56   I don't remember it wasn't set up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:57   story she is part of a party man charged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1797">TS</a>]

00:29:59   but just the casual business casual miss [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:02   of military leader like doing what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:04   directed here in this is the team your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:06   part of boom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:07   Louise this your team these people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   working for you I had that moment she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:11   was like oh he's gonna say something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:13   weird to her and I'm gonna get mad and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:16   did not i was i was world and I superly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:19   she just she did whatever the F she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:22   I think she you know she saw the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1822">TS</a>]

00:30:24   whiteboard she took the whiteboard in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:25   and was like this this is what I'm doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:27   she and going to check off the hazmat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:30   suit in the caverns that she could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1830">TS</a>]

00:30:33   communicate better without you no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   permission without vetting it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:36   anybody she just did it and I i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:40   know i really love to seeing all of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:42   it just and in a way that I can't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:46   Express only to say that you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:50   is this is why representation in media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1850">TS</a>]

00:30:52   matters why women need to see ourselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:55   depicted why people of color need to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:58   themselves in amazing roles so I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   two notes one is um I like as the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:03   progresses the the San Francisco [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   Chronicle review by Peter Hartlaub said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   it literally looks like amy adams and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:10   jeremy renner just kinda like kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:13   shooting and sleeping in their clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15   and shoot and really it feels like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:18   they're there it you know so many movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:21   can make it was like yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:22   know that they're actually out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:23   working around the clock and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   been there for weeks but there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:26   totally got it together and they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:28   beautiful and fashionable it's like nope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:29   they they look like they got thrown on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:32   helicopter and put out in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:34   nowhere and are getting no sleep and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:37   they're trying to figure this out and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:38   really works for the the idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:40   they're trying to work this problem and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:41   figure this out but they do look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:43   they've been sleeping in their clothes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:45   and it's and it's good and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1905">TS</a>]

00:31:46   effective and the other thing i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   say talk about forest whitaker for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50   second is the colonel i really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52   forest whitaker I mean force which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:53   great but in this movie I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:55   him because it's very clear that his job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1915">TS</a>]

00:31:58   is to be a conduit and he's not like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:01   see in so many movies this like totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:03   bullheaded military man who's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:06   who's gonna say all you scientists you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   don't even know he he's very much like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10   you need to explain it to me so that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:12   can explain it to them because the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:15   people I'm talking to don't hear you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:18   I need to let you know i need to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:21   this all work and that's his job is to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23   be that conduit and he doesn't he pushes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25   back on them but when he does it's for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:27   good reason and it generally is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:30   he knows the politics up the chain and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32   really liked that felt like a much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:34   realistic performance of a and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:38   character in a role in this in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   story and and you know forest whitaker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   did it really well and more importantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:43   to Louise's whole story of her being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:46   plopped down in there whatever she comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:47   in and you know she doesn't think she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:49   tries to be assertive with the deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51   being made for her and her competitor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53   linguist or whatever everyone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:56   eventually goes there she is you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:58   nervous about what its gonna be like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00   she tries to assert herself but forest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:03   whitaker makes it clear that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:04   opposing forces here and so it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   like she comes in is just all of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:08   sudden in charge of everybody and is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:10   know it is it is a it is a nice balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   like it's not as if the world lays down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:14   before her and merely because she is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:16   sort of everything goes your way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1996">TS</a>]

00:33:17   immediately there are challenges there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   are there other powers and charges she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:22   asked to deal with she has to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24   convincing to them she gets pushed back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26   she doesn't get everything that she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   wants immediately it is a much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:29   reasonable example of multiple people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:35   all trying to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:36   right thing with strong personalities [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2016">TS</a>]

00:33:37   and skills coming to an agreement and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:40   would say like both this and with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:43   women who are constantly in Regulus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:45   makeup sci-fi does both of these things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2025">TS</a>]

00:33:48   better than many other genres because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:49   very often it involves multiple smart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2029">TS</a>]

00:33:53   people trying to do the right thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:54   working towards a common goal which is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:56   nice thing to see you don't see a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:57   other movies where they have to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59   like a villain all the time and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:02   there are a lot of them but if of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   the genres that are well-known sci-fi is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:06   more likely to it than others to have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:11   woman character who is not there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:13   constantly made up all the time anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15   there's not many examples but like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:17   but I was trying to think of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:18   characters that are like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   women who are allowed to do a job and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:21   not constantly be glamorous women who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:22   are allowed to look damp and sweaty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:25   because they're there in a hot spaceship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:27   or they're on the the the fog ridden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29   plains of Montana or whatever you've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:32   ripley in the alien movies you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:35   series of you know female marines and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37   various future scenarios where it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:40   all about the glamour that's basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:41   the only time they'll actresses to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:43   appear not you know that not look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:46   they'd spent two hours in hair and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:48   makeup before they arrived and we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2088">TS</a>]

00:34:50   back to Jodie Foster in contact right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52   right i mean she's got a ponytail right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   and she's running around and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:56   sleeping in our clothes and I I you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:58   she's obviously I'm probably more made [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:00   up the name e adams in this but i still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:02   think like you know it in these movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:04   they still have a scene where the bank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:06   jodie foster gets get dressed up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:09   fancy dress for her one seen this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:10   has the yeah meeting with the ambassador [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   and there but fine like you you give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14   them that but the rest of the time the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:16   because of the because of the settings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18   like if you're going to have really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:19   running around the spaceship and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:22   not going to be wearing like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:25   Princess Leia outfit the whole time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:26   she's not she's not a princess she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:27   started working on the ship the ship is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:29   gross and it's filled with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:31   temperature fluctuations and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:34   moisture and aliens the drip things on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:35   you and you know she's allowed to look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:37   like that for the whole movie and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:38   fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:39   one of the moments where I really like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41   for Amy Adams is when she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43   is explaining the question that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:47   general would like to start the colonel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49   would like them to ask what they would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:50   like to get to anyone he doesn't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52   like they're moving fast enough and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:53   breaks it down in a really amazing way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:58   that died sex all the complexity of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:02   the problem that is in front of them a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:05   takes up to something that looks so easy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07   and presents you with every facet of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:11   difficulty in communicating with these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:13   beings who have just started to refer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:15   in terms of names so it's quite nice and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:20   it really it you reinforces her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:23   particular strengths in a way that none [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2183">TS</a>]

00:36:28   of the other characters in the film are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:31   able to provide even the scientists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2191">TS</a>]

00:36:33   doesn't let me know Jeremy Renner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:34   doesn't understand really much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:36   anything about communicating with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   aliens he's what was your life like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:40   piece like the bimbo in this movie I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2200">TS</a>]

00:36:42   jeremy renner there is just therefore i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44   can do to help those who help us to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:45   the science guy but he was so little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:48   help with the science so happy but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50   have a baby so you need a guy and really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:54   I'm not really had it especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:55   interesting role reversal were nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   like the woman would be there just to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:58   like every once in awhile say somethin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00   to show ya no I'm really a science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:01   person but you know he was supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   be on top in case they know they shoot a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   bunch of physics in the story there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07   there's a there's more of that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   not a team like that they just work you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:11   know it's a it's set up separately but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:13   think they carried over that feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15   into the movie without any of the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:16   like any other teaching us some physics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:18   as we go but we can't figure out how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:20   talk about physics because their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:21   conception of physics is a totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2241">TS</a>]

00:37:23   different thing than ours and he owned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   the only thing you have the movies he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:26   had the he got the one in twelve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:28   pointing at the they put all the symbols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:29   up and he figured out the 112 fraction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   and that's essentially isn't his entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:33   contribution he wasn't even particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35   supportive of anybody just kind of came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:38   in and it's like sitting back and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:39   watching I mean he's a supporting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:40   character it's fine but it is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:42   interesting reversal where normally the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:44   token woman would be the one who's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46   who has the supposed job and is allowed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:48   to demonstrate your skill for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2268">TS</a>]

00:37:49   simple thing but one could argue this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:52   within the structure of the film the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:53   reason is there is because he was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:55   yeah not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:56   because you know you're the only had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:57   be there because you had to be there so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2277">TS</a>]

00:37:58   they could fall in love at the trial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   that's just what I'm gonna have to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:01   have important conversations like it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:02   think that the most important role is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04   like aside from the romantic thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:06   the bloody angle the two of them kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:09   come into this together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:10   yeah are kind of in over their heads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:12   together like a one of the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   important scenes I feel like it as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   turn was revealing itself was sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   out there just like away from the camp [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:19   for a little bit and just talking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:22   and you know talking / mild flirting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:25   colored by the weird situation saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:28   like you know boy it must be handy to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:30   an expert in communication with inches [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:32   believe me you can end up alone even if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   you're an expert in which works in both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   directions because you're like oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:38   no she's alone because whatever whoever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2318">TS</a>]

00:38:40   scientist has been frightening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42   oversizing her husband signs at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:43   point you wherever husband wasn't there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:45   when her daughter died earlier in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:46   movie so boy she must be said but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:50   know as we learned later she's also long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   before that so that statement works fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   in both directions and it shows that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56   they are you know that they have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:57   connection yet so I uh I want to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2337">TS</a>]

00:39:00   about the art direction a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   before we talk about some more Pilate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:04   things and talk about like I know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2344">TS</a>]

00:39:07   mentioned some of this before the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:07   spoiler horn but like I like the weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:11   texture of the spaceship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13   I like the weird entryway into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15   spaceship that's an example where how do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   you take a 70-page story and you make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:18   into a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:19   well one thing is you go through instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:22   of into sentences explaining how you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:25   into the spaceship you take the time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:28   slowly drive out to the spaceship and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   get on the thing that's gonna lift you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:31   up to the place where the gravity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33   changes and now you're going sideways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:35   and when you look back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2375">TS</a>]

00:39:38   you're looking down and all of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40   right let's yell down the theater don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:42   look back don't know there's a moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   where somebody is a jeremy renner maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   he's like totally freaking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:48   oh yeah and he looks back after he jumps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:50   it was like no no don't do that don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2390">TS</a>]

00:39:53   that but i really liked it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:55   atmospheric and it's one of those things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   where they could've skipped ahead right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:59   but the first time you go into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:01   spaceship you're going in with them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:02   it's it's like it's a weird rough like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2402">TS</a>]

00:40:05   out like a lava rock or something and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07   they've got they've jury-rigged this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09   you know human tech to get you up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:12   lifter to get you up and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:13   gravity gets weird and you know I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:16   all of that I thought that was all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:17   really clever and I enjoyed the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   that we took the time to set the mood of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:21   like entering this alien spaceship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:24   thingy i will say though I well I agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:27   that afterwards I did think you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2427">TS</a>]

00:40:30   that's not an especially inviting way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:33   talk to people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:35   hey you don't want any made the error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:37   the right so they could read it so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:40   they made the beautiful hallway they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:41   sculpted it out they get everything the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:43   right height for humans you want them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:44   have a lift to you know you want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   ladder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:46   jeez you bring their own sister looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   like intelligent tests show it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:49   putting your name on the paper at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   they could do they came light-years to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:53   get there please do you go to bring a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:54   scissor lift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:55   I love the mechanism though because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:56   was that thing where you're like as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58   sci-fi nerd you never see real sci-fi in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:00   enough movies you see stuff that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:03   approximation and simplification and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05   idea that the aliens just obviously have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:08   control over gravity they've got there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2468">TS</a>]

00:41:09   hovering ships that are hovering in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11   air the way that bricks don't write to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   quote one beside us and and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   have the weird opening because it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:16   convenient because they just control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18   gravity and the transition where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:21   military guys have already mastered its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:22   they leap out Amy Adams a good job the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:25   jerky better falls on his face which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   again a reversal you're like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:28   expecting them to be suave and whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:30   they know he gets the trip but amy adams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32   had to be helped i noticed that part I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34   was like why why do you gotta help the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:36   woman and legislative demand i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2496">TS</a>]

00:41:38   they redeemed it by having him and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:39   haven't fallen is exactly like that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41   what it is it shows the unequal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:43   treatment that is one of the many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:45   I don't accept but i think that the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2505">TS</a>]

00:41:47   that they have because they control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   gravity this is a logical thing for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:50   aliens to do it's the most convenient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:52   thing for them and then everything is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:53   sort of like it's you know it's got that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55   wonderful texture mind a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:56   brutalist architecture the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   doubling of it but they go into a room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:01   and it's a very playing room it's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   big piece of glass in it and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05   trillions there is and what it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:07   the hard sci-fi part of me was picking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:10   it knits around this the section about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2530">TS</a>]

00:42:12   the whole idea of like what you get when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:13   you bring these people into the base you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:15   really going to bring them on there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:16   without telling exactly what they're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:17   for the yeah they're behind glass like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:19   they gave you enough hints so that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2539">TS</a>]

00:42:21   audience kind of new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:22   what was coming but obviously you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2542">TS</a>]

00:42:23   you would tell the people hear the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:25   dialogue was when they're coming in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   there is over top there's a talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:28   going on we'll always and came in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   what the science says you have that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:31   at the end of the session the gravity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33   changes slid us gently out yeah it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:36   just like a little bit of background [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:37   conversation but they're not briefed on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:39   it apparently i mean like maybe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41   audience wouldn't have to know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:42   surely those two people they were tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:43   them exactly undergoing instead of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   being surprised when they throw it like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:46   the light stick up there and and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48   they've got scientists there wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:50   you think like pretty much the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52   thing the scientists would be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:53   would be like how is the ship hovering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:56   there right get the instruments out now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   like this is the most interesting thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00   that you it's observable is a gigantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   thing and it's not falling want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   get on that kind of that is that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:06   another teenager like available just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:09   the team intense working on that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:10   a bunch of teams in 10 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:12   there's a physics guy and he's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:14   like what you got it you know you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16   get some instruments like get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18   measurements like do something going for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:19   the tricorder and wave it around it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:20   looks like you're doing something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:21   was driving out there with pickup trucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   and saying well suffice it to say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:24   giant thing hovering over us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:25   let's disregard that the government of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   this whole yeah yeah I can be no the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:30   thing that made me stop for a moment was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32   was the idea that surely they would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:35   briefed in detail before they were put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:39   in hazmat suits and sent into the space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2619">TS</a>]

00:43:42   right about what do they look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:43   you'll see you'll see the arm and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:44   think there might be some dialogue but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:46   you know the idea of like there is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:48   little bit wishy to start fresh and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2628">TS</a>]

00:43:50   last guy is that left and we want you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:53   write this with open eyes first before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   we tell you anything about it but come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:56   on it's really so be sure the eyes of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58   the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2638">TS</a>]

00:43:59   it was so clear that the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:00   didn't know that's fine for the audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:01   not to know because that's like Spencer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:03   the audience but it was so clear that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:04   the character you didn't know what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:05   were in for and suddenly like you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2645">TS</a>]

00:44:07   have briefed the characters but maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   they did because I mean honestly if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:12   were in a room with someone they were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:13   like yeah the gravity's gonna like kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:15   of shift 90 degrees if you're gonna go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:18   leaping them fall to your feet on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:20   wall like I don't know that I would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2660">TS</a>]

00:44:22   able to really comprehend that until I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   was actually doing it and i think i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:26   would actually feel a lot of anxiety [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2666">TS</a>]

00:44:28   about it because it's completely foreign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   so i mean i agree i don't think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32   were but maybe they were and it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34   such so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:35   suspended belief or disbelief that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:38   they just could wrap their brains around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40   until they actually had to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:42   I don't know why they're freaking out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:43   standing underneath this thing the size [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:44   of a mountain that is not falling on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:46   them for some reason like so it's okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   is it okay for us to stand here should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:49   we drive the trucks right under this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51   thing cuz i love the claustrophobia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53   though I thought they did wonderful job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:54   at made us feel like we were Louise in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:57   that moment we're watching it you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:58   trying not to hyperventilate you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00   know exactly what's gonna happen thats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   15-foot tall elephant-like cephalopods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:05   whoo whoooooo and other bad choices on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:08   this base [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:09   don't let the military people there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:10   watch fox news oh yeah they would never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:12   be like another thing that standard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:14   military like okay well you're off duty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   military people now watch a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18   paranoid lunatic like conspiracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:19   conspiracy website dot net is for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2719">TS</a>]

00:45:22   is your free time feel free to watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:25   that that's fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:26   we've been total radio silence would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:27   watch TV or skype calls me I have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29   issues with that entire plot line which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   we can get to but I want to ask about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:32   the aliens so yeah it does anybody have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:34   any thoughts about the way that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:35   Abbott and Costello our friends the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37   aliens are our differently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:39   I don't know why they made a window [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:40   where you can only see their knees I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:43   guess it's the review is to get you get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:44   to reveal the end of the movie but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46   feel like as far as window placement if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:48   I was meeting a bunch of aliens I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:50   wouldn't make a windows so they can see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:51   from my knees down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:53   that's the heptapods go figure they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55   don't they don't uh don't think like us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:57   and also i was disappointed they weren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   wearing clothes i'm not saying that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:00   aliens have to wear clothes but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2760">TS</a>]

00:46:01   number of naked aliens and sci-fi movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   like all right come on the law of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   averages some I'm gonna have some kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:06   of fast thing going on or they'll have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08   to be naked were not naked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:10   seems like a thing you might do their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:12   their own star trek don't protect your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:15   puritanical values on the heptapod I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17   got to say like you some of them are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19   going to be naked I'm fine but like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:20   there should be some percentage of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:21   half-closed I was trying to think of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23   pot with like a little jacket you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:24   probably a little bow tie is this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:26   panspermia but for clothes like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28   everybody wears clothes everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:30   no one wears clothes anywhere except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:31   were using it to regulate your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2791">TS</a>]

00:46:33   temperature in some way and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:34   eventually they become fashion as your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:35   society becomes more days it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:37   not inconceivable that anything looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   kind of animal like these these aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:41   are always like they look like animals [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:43   some kind they have joints and skin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   muscle and so on and so forth but never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:46   any clothes for me clothing paradox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48   where everybody's clothes nudity is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50   universal state so that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:52   also I have some questions about their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:53   riding technique which seems to require [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55   a big glass panel like how do they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:57   haven't communicated riding with each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59   other when there's not a big glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:00   pitcher hovering in the role it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02   hovering in the fluid there the fluid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:03   environment and hovers is it looks gasps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:06   it looks like they're in a cloud kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2826">TS</a>]

00:47:07   the exact makeup is never really and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:11   especially hard there in ama a foggy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:14   medium of some sort yeah like when she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16   enters later on there's there's writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:19   it just floats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:20   I don't know it's like I mean I I kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:23   of understand the art direction like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:24   shouldn't be overthinking it should be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:25   like what it is a type of network so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:27   much better and writing because when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:28   do the visual you have to pin it down to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:30   something when you put it down you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:31   like that's probably maybe not i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:34   know like you you don't see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:36   advantages of it you see it looks cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   but practically speaking you know spring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:41   including coalescing the shapes seems [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:44   massively inefficient compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:46   dispose of you know advanced advancement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:49   of their writing in but it doesn't get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:50   to it in the film that they kind of are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:52   there they're creating a simultaneity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:54   above a thing at once and i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   movie conveys it very implicitly its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:58   explicit in the story it's a big hunk of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   the story and I don't know that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:03   Jason I don't think they expressed as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:05   well in the movie why that was I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:06   they did a pretty good job that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   a scene where Amy Adams says imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   writing you know writing a sentence with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:12   both hands starting at the beginning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:14   the end and meeting in the middle that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:15   what that's what they do is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:16   encompass the entire thought and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:19   they put it out there and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:20   there's there there squid-like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:22   express inc in and and I just I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2902">TS</a>]

00:48:27   about it that you know they're alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29   they're very different from us and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:30   there's difficulty in communicating it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:33   not it's not be headed star trek aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35   and I like that about it that they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37   that they're so they're so different and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:39   weird and that's what aliens we if we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:42   ever meet aliens they're going to not be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   like some animal from some part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46   earth except intelligent right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   going to be very different and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:51   good way to do that even though yet they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53   are sort of like octopuses sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:55   elephant and octopi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:56   yeah there's a bit there that that thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2936">TS</a>]

00:49:00   with the the aliens and the glasses [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02   really is a trope though and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:03   they handled it really well like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:04   thinking of Independence Day with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2944">TS</a>]

00:49:07   brent Spiner seen pushed up against the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09   glass and I felt like there's so many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   opportunities in this film where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:12   think you're about to see something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:14   gets you into horror and you find out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:16   what the reveal is I mean I knew the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:18   story and think they changed that much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:19   but I still thought is there something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:22   that's going to terrify me like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:24   going to change the whole meaning of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:25   and I don't know how watching without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:27   knowing the story if you felt like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:28   were on the verge of something terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:30   happening with the aliens and then that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2970">TS</a>]

00:49:31   never results turns out the aliens are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   just great central to sucks you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   meditative job of not having like music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:37   cues to make you think all of a sudden [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   some bloody thing is gonna they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   have any jumpscares they didn't have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:42   thing making you think there is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   be jumpscares didn't have anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:45   making you think there was gonna be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:46   whore aspect and I appreciated that also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48   because my kids were there and be scared [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50   i would say that when she put her hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   up to the class though there was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:53   the anticipation of a jump-scare like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55   she she's firmly interacting with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:58   physical environment at this point and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00   what will the alien response to that be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:03   whether it is physical or their repulsed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:06   by somebody touching it or whatever like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3006">TS</a>]

00:50:08   Italy either was there was no clear path [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:11   forward for what that would wind up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   taking plate will wind up taking place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:15   but it was fine all right uh plot stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3015">TS</a>]

00:50:18   so let's talk about those those angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:20   military guys with their conspiracy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:24   websites and all that this is this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26   part of the story that I don't love but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   i see why they did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:29   it's the entire we're we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:34   communicating with all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:36   countries and then we're shutting it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:37   down in China and Russia are causing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   trouble and then we've got our own guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   who have decided that they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:42   blow up the thing or whatever I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   understand why this adds a layer of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:48   suspense and action and threat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:54   especially the very tense scene where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:56   they're in the in the ship talking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:59   the heptapods while the bomb is about to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3059">TS</a>]

00:51:01   go off is the literal Hitchcock thing we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:03   have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3063">TS</a>]

00:51:04   literal bond the audience knows is there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:05   and the characters don't yeah but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:07   you know what the aliens know it's there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:09   and they and they sweep them out to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:10   able to take their sweet time though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12   they do they do they leave it to the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:15   because they like a good then i'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:18   to count their buildings especially like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:19   with me tell you about the bomb behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3079">TS</a>]

00:51:20   you but first let's just talk about some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   other stuff yeah yeah I didn't I didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:24   love this part I again I know why it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:26   there there's somebody who says you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3086">TS</a>]

00:51:28   we need a little more conflict we need a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:30   little more excitement about how about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:31   an explosion and some gunfire but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:34   don't know why did I think this was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3094">TS</a>]

00:51:36   favorite bit of not the plot part which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:39   again I think it's just there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:40   standard part in it i think it does help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   the movie but the way it was handled i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:44   thought was really different than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:47   would expect it so that the use of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3107">TS</a>]

00:51:49   things I liked about her sandal first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:50   all it was it was telegraphed pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:52   obviously we have shown that guy's face [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54   you know easy on the call was in fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:56   they did just somebody needs to do right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:57   so they go there they plant the bomb we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00   see the bomb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:01   it's got a time round up with it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:02   the standard 7 segment display the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:04   timer's will always be made of what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:05   they gonna do when bombs don't have that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:06   display on that anymore anyway that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   up and they want to show you then is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:11   like really only this other get this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:13   guy's face has been here the whole time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:14   going to be bored should be bored i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3134">TS</a>]

00:52:16   totally want to kill these aliens did I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3136">TS</a>]

00:52:17   say that out loud like the whole earlier [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   part of the movie we know it's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:20   him then me then they show him down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   there they send up the bomb [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24   he's got other people with him you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26   really see like they're just like just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:27   send him up whatever then they show the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29   close-up of them unpacking their weapons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:31   unpacking their guns like and so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33   clear that it's a conspiracy essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:34   all of them are like you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36   they're saying all the military stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:37   like you know take good shots blog we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   can do this but they only show them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:42   opening the gun cases make sure their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   hands from above right almost as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:46   you're looking out of the tunnel down at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:47   it and they don't show that gunfight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3167">TS</a>]

00:52:50   they don't let your show like this they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:53   show the trucks coming towards it they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   showed the opening up the stuff and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:56   from within the cave area you hear some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3176">TS</a>]

00:52:59   gunshots but like we don't see the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   battle because and i love that was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:02   I don't care about that guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   yeah I don't care how that battle turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:06   out i understand what you're getting at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3186">TS</a>]

00:53:08   you don't have to take me there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10   just just sketch it just be like don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:13   don't go down because so many other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:14   movies would have had that battle scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:16   and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:16   cut back and forth in the battle scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18   the bomb talking to aliens balancing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:20   Bob talking to aliens they stay with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:23   people in the room and then come back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:25   the bomb that much right now I love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3205">TS</a>]

00:53:27   I love that I was not forced to spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3207">TS</a>]

00:53:29   time with these Yahoo's down there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:31   having their gunfighter even with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3211">TS</a>]

00:53:33   good guys coming with the pickup trucks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:34   try to stop them like I know how that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:37   gonna go you've established that you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:38   done it whatever now we're in the room [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:39   with the bomb and I really appreciated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   again light touch on all that where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:44   just drop enough into the water to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3224">TS</a>]

00:53:46   you know these are the things that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3226">TS</a>]

00:53:47   happening you've seen this in 17 other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:48   movies we don't need to show you that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:50   stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:50   let's show you the stuff we haven't seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:52   which is talking to these weird aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:54   advancing that plot and oh yeah there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:55   a bomb in the thing and I thought the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57   way they resolve the bomb with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59   little force push that the seven fingers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:02   force push to save them and and float [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:05   them gently into the little gravity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:06   tunnel on all that I thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:08   that was really nice and I do appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3248">TS</a>]

00:54:10   a good explosion in the middle of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:12   sci-fi movie i'll say that was nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:13   explosion i want to bring up the I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:15   to circle back about the about that last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:17   bit too is that Abbott does this because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:21   they know it's gonna happen right this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   is part of what we find out as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:24   develop further you look back at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:26   scene you say these aliens knew exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:29   what was about to happen because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:30   know and this is this is an echo of Amy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:34   Adams not changing the death of her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:35   daughter even though ostensibly maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:38   she could or she could not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:39   conceived the daughter line in the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41   in the book the story rather the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43   daughter dies in a climbing accident so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:45   conceivably she could change events the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:47   mother and Louise might have missed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:48   movie they make it essentially if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50   have this child she's gonna do not die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52   of this rare and incurable disease which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:54   is a different set of steaks so I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:56   they set up a bit in the same way as the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:58   alien knows it's like the doctor right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00   he knows the staff is coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:02   somebody knocks four times where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:03   bomb is about to go off Abbott's entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05   life is clear to him that leads up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:08   this moment when he commits this event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   which has this consequence for his race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   and for this whole mission and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:14   just what he does knowing that the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3314">TS</a>]

00:55:16   time so i think it's a light parallelism [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:18   but it comes into sharp relief by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:20   end of the film there's one mechanic in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:22   this film that I can't get behind and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   that is the tons of fake news that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:27   here in the media clips oh yea networks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:29   and the graphic overlays for countless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:33   needless organizations that we don't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:37   don't need to have any concept of I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3337">TS</a>]

00:55:39   feel like that was a complete waste and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:43   especially hated the montage of all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:45   them altogether blathering on about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:48   events that are going on globally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:49   yep i don't really think that added [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:52   anything to the film i found it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   really distracting and since we know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56   is completely absolutely one hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:59   percent of ache from from beginning to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3359">TS</a>]

00:56:02   end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:03   I don't want to see it a if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:06   supposed to be some sort of plausible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:07   world near our modern-day then it should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:11   either be networks that were familiar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:12   with or should never be seen at all and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:15   i ate exposition can come at us through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17   any other character that is available [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:19   rather rather than this mechanic which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:22   feels kind of lazy and something you see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24   in like zombie movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:25   yeah you know again not to bring back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   contact but I will say this for contact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29   contact got a bunch of people from CNN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:32   to do stuff for contact with the CNN [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:35   logos and they showed CNN's coverage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:38   their launching their their machine and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:40   all of that and they edited together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:43   like clips Bill Clinton talking now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:47   you know and they made an effort to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:48   okay this is what it is it's like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50   CNN you're seeing everything it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:52   exactly what you're seeing and in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54   yeah it definitely felt like a TV show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:57   with a fake you know fake news anchor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:59   with a fake logo and I I grew here I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:02   that was not my favorite thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:03   it's like one notch up from the spinning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:06   newspapers kind of thing so I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:08   bring I want to bring everybody down but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:10   i do want to explain why in the end this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:11   movie didn't didn't hold together for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:14   alright why I don't tell you you're on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:16   so that's what I mean I like that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18   this so much i like about this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20   that I don't regret having seen it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:22   and i really liked that it was made but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3442">TS</a>]

00:57:24   for me specifically like this to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:29   fall entirely like this this movie The [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:32   Return in this movie in the general plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:33   hangs on as presented in the film I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:36   don't know what it's like in the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38   the barest of threads they mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:39   this after Whorf hypothesis or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3459">TS</a>]

00:57:42   that your that the language that use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:43   influences your way of thinking right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:45   they throw that out there in case you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:47   not familiar with it gets one line and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3467">TS</a>]

00:57:49   then the whole turn in the book is by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   learning this alien language it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   change your way of thinking and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:56   changes your way of thinking in such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:57   way the time is no longer linear and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:59   that is a really important thing because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:01   that's all about the turn or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:02   and I that doesn't hold together for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   the idea that the secret of these aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:07   would be it's like learn french and time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09   is no longer linear nope sorry not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:11   happening like I don't care how fancy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:12   your languages i don't care if you write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14   in a circle learning a language is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:17   weird language plus after war people's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:20   time has no meaning no I don't I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:22   accept that I don't get it all right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3502">TS</a>]

00:58:24   so that that you know it doesn't hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:25   together for me personally and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:27   second part is assuming does hold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:30   together sooner you accept that as like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:31   art whatever hand way behind way this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33   this is the plot of the movie i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:35   that like what that I think what they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3515">TS</a>]

00:58:38   were going for and didn't accomplish ms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:40   I I shouldn't feel like the wii's is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:43   monster for having a child and I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   feel like she's a monster for having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:46   your child because she knows how it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:49   going to turn out yep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3529">TS</a>]

00:58:50   presumably she accepts that there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:51   way she can avoid it and she does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:54   anyway which strikes me as one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:55   most selfish acts you could possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:57   because it's maybe you want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   those moments with your child and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:00   treasure them but the the poor child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   like you bring someone into this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:05   you know is going to be did to die a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07   terrible death I it just it seems to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:10   because you're not like well maybe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:12   you know like you you now see time as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:14   like a number of maybe she has no choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:15   like that again it's not it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17   emphasize enough the in the movie i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:18   can't tell if like this is gonna happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:20   anyway and she embraces it is able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3560">TS</a>]

00:59:22   accept it versus no she actually does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3562">TS</a>]

00:59:24   have a choice and she could choose not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3564">TS</a>]

00:59:26   to do it so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:27   I don't think that's what they wanted me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3567">TS</a>]

00:59:29   to feel I think they wanted me to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:30   like this is an inevitability and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:33   embrace the Magica of time no longer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:36   being linear and you seeing the matrix [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:37   and having it all be of one continuous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3577">TS</a>]

00:59:39   thing and and then accept her doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:44   thing as a beautiful decision but like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46   i don't i don't see her as a monster I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:49   have empathy for her character and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3589">TS</a>]

00:59:50   appreciate it but this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:51   little corner of saying but yet did she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3591">TS</a>]

00:59:53   really make the right decision we be not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55   so that's that's Maggie I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:59   the beauty of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   the beauty of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   end of this movie is that well first off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:03   I disagree that if it if she well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:07   disagree yeah I know but broadly I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:09   disagree but in specific i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3609">TS</a>]

01:00:11   say I disagree because what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:13   arguing is if you know for a fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:15   you're going to have a child and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3615">TS</a>]

01:00:17   going to love them and they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:18   love you and you're gonna raise them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   thence tragically later in life they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:23   going to die for some reason you should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:25   just not have them and they shouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:26   exist and i think that's wrong i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:29   that's monstrous and the reality is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:31   know all of the children we have and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:34   bring into this world are going to die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3634">TS</a>]

01:00:37   that's life not when they're 18 and from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3637">TS</a>]

01:00:41   from are very rare disease just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3641">TS</a>]

01:00:42   length of time like if your life is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:44   know but it is a significant thing it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:47   a significant thing I'm just people make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:49   if you have taste sex you know you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3649">TS</a>]

01:00:51   to assess the traits as an Ashkenazi Jew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:54   I feels very strongly that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:56   people who make the choice to not have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:57   children all and people make the choice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:59   to have children knowing what the jack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3659">TS</a>]

01:01:01   outcome a key be and that their child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:03   might live to be from age three to 18 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3663">TS</a>]

01:01:05   and I in cystic fibrosis other diseases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3665">TS</a>]

01:01:07   they still have children but doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:09   maybe like this is in this universe were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:11   led to believe that like it's not it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:13   not a question of like always a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3673">TS</a>]

01:01:14   possibility and Bob's like no this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3674">TS</a>]

01:01:16   how it's gonna go down you know ahead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:18   time so i think the way time works in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:19   this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:20   what happens happens and that's one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:21   the beautiful things it's a very 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:23   monkeys like view of of time but then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3683">TS</a>]

01:01:26   but then she doesn't get credit for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:27   doing a beautiful thing because she had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3687">TS</a>]

01:01:28   no choice of things that happen happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30   well what is it what is the free will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:31   it's a good question here's the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   though John your point of view is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35   represented in the movie because it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:37   strongly implied that that's the reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3697">TS</a>]

01:01:38   jeremy renner leaves her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:39   well yeah I mean who had you know I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:42   have I my life for not being with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:45   dying daughter but like he's and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:47   another person who got you got you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:49   screwed over by her decision because she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51   didn't include him in the decision she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53   just said oh I'm you know let's have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55   child together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:56   I'm not going to tell you but guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:57   this is gonna die horribly I know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:59   but I'm not gonna bring you know i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3719">TS</a>]

01:02:01   going to tell you about it so like he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   got suckered into this know until she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05   aged seven or so that he's gonna dance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:06   right and then she's gonna tell me it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:07   like well it's like the worst possible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:09   thing like you didn't tell me the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:10   beginning which is not fair to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:11   because you knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3731">TS</a>]

01:02:12   how this is gonna turn out and didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   tell me right and then you do tell me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   halfway through by the way that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:16   end horribly huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:17   so I didn't get to enjoy the rest of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3737">TS</a>]

01:02:19   daughter's life you could just not told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3739">TS</a>]

01:02:21   him the entire time so I'd say the truly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3741">TS</a>]

01:02:23   selfish move is saving yourself is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:26   preventing your child from having any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:27   life at all because you don't want to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:28   hurt when they die but there is no child [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3748">TS</a>]

01:02:30   at that point there's not you're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:31   preventing anybody from having anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3751">TS</a>]

01:02:32   anymore year then you're preventing all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   the kids you didn't have four but there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:35   is she knows who she knows every notion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:38   of her child because she can see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:40   future see so and this goes back to your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:41   other point which is you just don't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:42   just don't buy this idea of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3762">TS</a>]

01:02:45   language you can see the premise of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:46   entire thing which is you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:48   science fiction I that there are lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3768">TS</a>]

01:02:49   things about you that I inspection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:51   that's fantasy that's just fantasy like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53   there's no scientific just because there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:54   was there's a thing called Sapphira war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:56   hypothesis one of the ways people think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3776">TS</a>]

01:02:58   of the arrow of time and think of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00   way the universe works is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:02   actually is all occurring simultaneously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:04   everything no I'm on board with that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3784">TS</a>]

01:03:07   just don't think learning a language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:08   that is going to give you mastery over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:10   time but we don't know that that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12   it is in the structure of the film the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:13   aliens give her a weapon she's pursuing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15   you know that's part of the thing a tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:17   they talk about is technology its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:18   biggest you learn language 129 language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:20   of changing your way of thinking that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:22   that's all you got in the movie she goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3802">TS</a>]

01:03:23   into the strange medium their teaching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3803">TS</a>]

01:03:26   this language which unlocks something as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28   a tech technology but they're talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30   about is something that's part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:31   mentality right that this language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:33   unlocks a capacity which is a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:35   science fiction think it's not fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:36   to unlock the best if we accept that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3816">TS</a>]

01:03:38   there are aliens who can see nonlinear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:40   time why could they not teach the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:42   ability to see nonlinear time to someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3822">TS</a>]

01:03:44   was saying like that wasn't in the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:46   all we got in the movie with sapphire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3826">TS</a>]

01:03:47   worth learn language time on time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:49   unfolds like there was no no thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3829">TS</a>]

01:03:51   the movie to tell you like / altering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3831">TS</a>]

01:03:53   you by being in this mr. anything like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55   that it was your footnotes then yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:57   well I really just wasn't there like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   there was there was very little to hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:00   your hat on to to explain why this end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:03   and i would say like it's it's only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05   vaguely plausible unless their altar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:06   altering the biology to be like we can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3846">TS</a>]

01:04:09   take a human and give you the ability to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:10   do this thing like i don't think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:12   anything that can be explained humans [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3852">TS</a>]

01:04:14   they would let humans see time in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:16   nonlinear way and see the future in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3856">TS</a>]

01:04:17   past like even if I accept that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3857">TS</a>]

01:04:19   any kind of being that has this mastery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21   over this aspect of the universe the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:24   idea that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3864">TS</a>]

01:04:25   talk therapy or just hanging out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:27   together and learning some stuff can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:28   give you that it doesn't doesn't hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3868">TS</a>]

01:04:29   together syfy what is the other fans who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:31   is fine it's like i'll give you the true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3871">TS</a>]

01:04:33   side there give you a doctor strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35   type thing yeah all thumbs up but sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:37   not very sci-fi I disagree time travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:41   in the perception of time is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:43   fundamental principle of science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:44   and right but you gotta you gotta have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3884">TS</a>]

01:04:46   something to hang your hat on you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:48   have something she locked but she like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:50   the capacity by language makes it turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3890">TS</a>]

01:04:51   out that line w % of our brain right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:53   nothing but no they didn't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3893">TS</a>]

01:04:55   Joanna but they didn't do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:56   no it's the idea that she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3896">TS</a>]

01:04:58   unlocking some latent capacity your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3898">TS</a>]

01:05:00   brain but it's a way it's a point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:01   view you have actually interviewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3901">TS</a>]

01:05:04   doesn't point of view doesn't make you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:06   not incentives just hanging space to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:07   though I mean the cips hang there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:09   you know in the over the field and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:10   that's a form of science fiction we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:12   accept the idea that she has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:13   capacity to see time in a in a holistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:16   you know complete fashion because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:18   aliens have already mastered this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3918">TS</a>]

01:05:19   because they've done it's capable for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   her to do it and language is the key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:22   that allows her to see simultaneously I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24   I would have been happier if they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26   have if they didn't mention sapphire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:27   Worf if because that was the only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:29   they gave you was like by learning a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:30   language but if they didn't mention that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3930">TS</a>]

01:05:31   at all but merely said she goes into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3931">TS</a>]

01:05:33   missing now she can do this thing then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3933">TS</a>]

01:05:35   you can just make up an explanation you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:36   want you're like well the aliens can do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:37   it and now she can do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:38   the story makes it easier because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3938">TS</a>]

01:05:40   story she has no ability to change time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3940">TS</a>]

01:05:42   not exactly adjacent i just reread it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:43   and I after this because in the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:45   it's clear that she can sort of change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:48   events that there's some kind of looped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:49   going on with you don't see where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:50   starts and ends at car locks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:52   i I don't I don't read it that way you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54   don't do you read that she can change [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56   challenge because she's talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:57   she can't i don't i don't either the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:59   I read the movie is that time is it time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:01   is the way it is and when she knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:03   about it she knows about it but that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:04   all she was able to create a paradox [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:06   somehow though so that's part of the but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3966">TS</a>]

01:06:08   we don't know how that paradox was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3968">TS</a>]

01:06:09   created right yeah like what the general [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:12   calling the general then he's the one he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3972">TS</a>]

01:06:14   tells her the thing that is true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:16   that's what that's what that's a loop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:17   that happens but i don't i'm not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3977">TS</a>]

01:06:18   she creates it wrong not sure I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20   really something like this sometimes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:23   know a lot of other science-fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:24   resolutions when you have a loop like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:26   that occur a series of events that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28   happened essentially off-camera lock you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:30   into a certain kind of outcome because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:31   they ripple back and forth through time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:33   and then you're seeing the outcome but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:34   you can't see the cause and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3994">TS</a>]

01:06:36   always good sci-fi about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3996">TS</a>]

01:06:37   that but in this in the book its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:39   seemingly very explicit that she her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/3999">TS</a>]

01:06:42   consciousness spans she's unable she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4002">TS</a>]

01:06:44   could never told so she tells John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:45   Jeremy Renner right she tells even in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4005">TS</a>]

01:06:47   the movie this thing about the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4007">TS</a>]

01:06:49   she reveals the future to him which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:51   ostensibly would change things accept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:53   the notion is that she'd are always told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4013">TS</a>]

01:06:55   him that and that she remembers how why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:57   he left you know in the past she knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:59   why she told him that in the future but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:01   isn't that changing history changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:02   time and the general is the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4022">TS</a>]

01:07:04   problematic thing in the movie because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:05   it i mean you can be explained by saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4025">TS</a>]

01:07:07   like the general learn the language too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4027">TS</a>]

01:07:09   because the general is there and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4029">TS</a>]

01:07:11   only in story reason for him to saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:13   that is because he knows he has to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4033">TS</a>]

01:07:14   that because that is essential for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:17   you know the earlier events right thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4037">TS</a>]

01:07:19   you learned later it is not is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4039">TS</a>]

01:07:20   naturalistic it's not as not as if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22   just happens to say that and she learns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:23   you can go back he comes and says I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4043">TS</a>]

01:07:25   think it's probably important for me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4045">TS</a>]

01:07:27   show you this and also let me tell you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4047">TS</a>]

01:07:29   this like so he and he could be doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4049">TS</a>]

01:07:32   that if he also has gained this ability [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4052">TS</a>]

01:07:34   to see time and realizes this is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4054">TS</a>]

01:07:36   important thing to do and that's fine i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:38   just not they don't they don't they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4058">TS</a>]

01:07:39   in the movies why he's doing that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4059">TS</a>]

01:07:41   they make it very clear that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4061">TS</a>]

01:07:42   just know she has a glimpse of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4062">TS</a>]

01:07:44   future and using an information she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4064">TS</a>]

01:07:45   able to be convincing in the past she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:47   has a glimpse of the future in which the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4067">TS</a>]

01:07:48   guy she's convincing gives are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4068">TS</a>]

01:07:50   explicitly for no other in story reason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:53   this information for the express purpose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4073">TS</a>]

01:07:54   of causing the past events to happen not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4074">TS</a>]

01:07:57   thats that's a fun scene but i don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4077">TS</a>]

01:07:59   really love it because I i find me there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4079">TS</a>]

01:08:01   it feels like us i seen from another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4081">TS</a>]

01:08:03   movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:03   it feels like a scene from you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4083">TS</a>]

01:08:06   looper or have some other kind of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4086">TS</a>]

01:08:08   travel shenanigans movie and that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4088">TS</a>]

01:08:10   the movie that I feel like I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4090">TS</a>]

01:08:11   watching up to this point in building [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:13   Ted's Excellent Adventure members if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:15   they escape they got the key right to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4095">TS</a>]

01:08:18   escape later and then they won't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4098">TS</a>]

01:08:19   remember me up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21   yeah can i point out one other thing to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:23   having read the story and the movie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:25   I really do love the movie i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4105">TS</a>]

01:08:27   fair i'd be with aliens for a half stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:30   when i get out of 5 but the i think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4110">TS</a>]

01:08:33   there's a graft in this movie to give it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4113">TS</a>]

01:08:34   there's like the core story that's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4114">TS</a>]

01:08:37   the short story is I think told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:40   beautifully and almost completely and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4120">TS</a>]

01:08:42   most ways almost identical I think Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4122">TS</a>]

01:08:44   don't you agree that's all that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4124">TS</a>]

01:08:47   preserve the core feeling and nature of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4127">TS</a>]

01:08:49   the story but then there's this it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4129">TS</a>]

01:08:51   additional like contact and I kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4131">TS</a>]

01:08:52   thinking about contact to or even lake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4132">TS</a>]

01:08:55   house in fact there's a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4135">TS</a>]

01:08:56   that like inexplicable time travel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4136">TS</a>]

01:08:59   information time travel was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4139">TS</a>]

01:09:01   choreographed it on top to give it sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4141">TS</a>]

01:09:02   of a conventional veneers that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4142">TS</a>]

01:09:04   allow an arc of you know something has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4144">TS</a>]

01:09:07   to happen and the world's my blog in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4147">TS</a>]

01:09:09   story the aliens show up the reveal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4149">TS</a>]

01:09:13   I'm gonna go spoilers for the reveal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4153">TS</a>]

01:09:14   that there's no reason they're there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4154">TS</a>]

01:09:15   they're there because they know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4155">TS</a>]

01:09:17   have to be there and then they go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4157">TS</a>]

01:09:18   that's the entire and inside the movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4158">TS</a>]

01:09:20   or the story is a meditation on what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4160">TS</a>]

01:09:23   know your internal state of mind how you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4163">TS</a>]

01:09:25   perceive the universe how you deal with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4165">TS</a>]

01:09:27   this knowledge that's terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4167">TS</a>]

01:09:28   and the fact that these aliens because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4168">TS</a>]

01:09:31   they can receive all of their time at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4171">TS</a>]

01:09:33   once their whole lives at once not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4173">TS</a>]

01:09:34   future is their whole lives they come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4174">TS</a>]

01:09:37   and they go and there's no purpose for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4177">TS</a>]

01:09:39   it so you're left to close with rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4179">TS</a>]

01:09:41   than this one coming because we need you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4181">TS</a>]

01:09:42   three thousand years the whole subtitle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4182">TS</a>]

01:09:44   seen I think they could have removed all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4184">TS</a>]

01:09:45   the subtitles and it would have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4185">TS</a>]

01:09:47   better film like just had her in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4187">TS</a>]

01:09:49   talking to them then painting things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4189">TS</a>]

01:09:51   that are going out and doing the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4191">TS</a>]

01:09:52   and we're going much better i enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4192">TS</a>]

01:09:54   the we're here because we will need you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4194">TS</a>]

01:09:56   in 3,000 years so there are two things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4196">TS</a>]

01:09:58   that bothered me about the the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4198">TS</a>]

01:10:03   that made it four and a half stars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4203">TS</a>]

01:10:05   instead of five for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4205">TS</a>]

01:10:06   one of them was that whole scene with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4206">TS</a>]

01:10:08   the general where he likes shows or his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4208">TS</a>]

01:10:11   phone and then tells her exactly what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4211">TS</a>]

01:10:12   she says and I kind of I felt like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4212">TS</a>]

01:10:16   she would either no or not no you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4216">TS</a>]

01:10:18   that's done in science fiction where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4218">TS</a>]

01:10:20   it's just kind of a hand waved away and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4220">TS</a>]

01:10:22   not really explained so I didn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4222">TS</a>]

01:10:24   love that scene and the other thing was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4224">TS</a>]

01:10:27   a as Joe mentioned in the beginning the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4227">TS</a>]

01:10:30   hair during that whole scene where she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4230">TS</a>]

01:10:34   so mad she's a little she's like on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4234">TS</a>]

01:10:38   ship inn in their environment because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4238">TS</a>]

01:10:41   was so distracted I was they were so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4241">TS</a>]

01:10:44   overly ambitious with the the lack or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4244">TS</a>]

01:10:49   reduction of gravity and her hair in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4249">TS</a>]

01:10:51   that environment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4251">TS</a>]

01:10:53   yeah I I was cringing the whole entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4253">TS</a>]

01:10:56   time it's supposed to be a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4256">TS</a>]

01:10:57   emotionally impactful moment we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4257">TS</a>]

01:10:59   describing the death of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4259">TS</a>]

01:11:02   the the characters who threw them out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4262">TS</a>]

01:11:05   the little airlock thing inside of there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4265">TS</a>]

01:11:07   and we're discussing how in 3,000 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4267">TS</a>]

01:11:09   it's gonna be important for the human [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4269">TS</a>]

01:11:10   race and all the things about the weapon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4270">TS</a>]

01:11:12   and seeing your time and it's just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4272">TS</a>]

01:11:13   whole time just staring at these weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4273">TS</a>]

01:11:16   brassy waves moving around and just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4276">TS</a>]

01:11:20   this is awful guys this is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4280">TS</a>]

01:11:22   situations where the visual effects are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4282">TS</a>]

01:11:24   are in a hard place because if you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4284">TS</a>]

01:11:27   seen like people on the International [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4287">TS</a>]

01:11:29   Space Station with long hair hair and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4289">TS</a>]

01:11:31   zero gravity looks weird like it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4291">TS</a>]

01:11:33   look it doesn't look graceful like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4293">TS</a>]

01:11:35   just kind of you know it just it doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4295">TS</a>]

01:11:38   do things that you want to do in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4298">TS</a>]

01:11:40   movie looks very strange to us so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4300">TS</a>]

01:11:43   there's a lot of this a lot of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4303">TS</a>]

01:11:44   youtube videos whatever woman is up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4304">TS</a>]

01:11:46   there doing experiments using a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4306">TS</a>]

01:11:47   long hair and she's got in different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4307">TS</a>]

01:11:49   styles and different times and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4309">TS</a>]

01:11:50   kind of bounces around awkwardly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4310">TS</a>]

01:11:52   sticks out at weird angles and it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4312">TS</a>]

01:11:54   is not flattering it is much better to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4314">TS</a>]

01:11:56   make it look like pretend you're a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4316">TS</a>]

01:11:58   mermaid underwater and also you're on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4318">TS</a>]

01:12:00   Playstation 4 and now your hair is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4320">TS</a>]

01:12:01   waving and its artistic license but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4321">TS</a>]

01:12:04   maybe maybe they need a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4324">TS</a>]

01:12:06   money so the end the very end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4326">TS</a>]

01:12:09   I what I loved one of the things i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4329">TS</a>]

01:12:11   about this movie is I i love how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4331">TS</a>]

01:12:13   beautiful it is at the end that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4333">TS</a>]

01:12:14   there's a moment where she says I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4334">TS</a>]

01:12:16   realized why I just realized why my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4336">TS</a>]

01:12:19   husband left me and he says I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4339">TS</a>]

01:12:22   didn't know you were married and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4342">TS</a>]

01:12:24   like you know your she's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4344">TS</a>]

01:12:25   realizing she's figured out like how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4345">TS</a>]

01:12:28   this is gonna go from here on out and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4348">TS</a>]

01:12:31   I i think that it's a beautiful thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4351">TS</a>]

01:12:35   that she's been in a movie she's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4355">TS</a>]

01:12:37   especially the beginning she's talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4357">TS</a>]

01:12:39   to her daughter and talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4359">TS</a>]

01:12:40   story of her daughter's life and we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4360">TS</a>]

01:12:42   seen these hints about like mommy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4362">TS</a>]

01:12:44   daddy talk to animals you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4364">TS</a>]

01:12:46   things that are giving her clues about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4366">TS</a>]

01:12:48   this that in the end she gets this much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4368">TS</a>]

01:12:50   bigger vision that this is that she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4370">TS</a>]

01:12:53   going to have a child within and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4373">TS</a>]

01:12:56   the child that we've seen all along and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4376">TS</a>]

01:12:59   and she's going to go through that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4379">TS</a>]

01:13:01   process that leads to you know her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4381">TS</a>]

01:13:04   daughter growing up and then her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4384">TS</a>]

01:13:05   daughter dying and i think it's sad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4385">TS</a>]

01:13:08   and beautiful that and and the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4388">TS</a>]

01:13:11   there i take away from it i'm curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4391">TS</a>]

01:13:13   what all of you take away from it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4393">TS</a>]

01:13:14   is that if you look at any life on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4394">TS</a>]

01:13:17   long scale various tragedy and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4397">TS</a>]

01:13:21   happy things and then you die and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4401">TS</a>]

01:13:26   have to you know if your ipod you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4406">TS</a>]

01:13:28   have to appreciate the happy things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4408">TS</a>]

01:13:31   happen because you know we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4411">TS</a>]

01:13:33   bounded by time and I I you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4413">TS</a>]

01:13:36   thought it was I thought it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4416">TS</a>]

01:13:37   beautiful poetic way to end a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4417">TS</a>]

01:13:41   about aliens who live in a big floating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4421">TS</a>]

01:13:43   spaceship i also agree that it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4423">TS</a>]

01:13:46   poetic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:46   I i do have some things that I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4426">TS</a>]

01:13:48   about sense that about the mechanics of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4428">TS</a>]

01:13:50   it and what the ramifications would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4430">TS</a>]

01:13:53   on a global scale especially like why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4433">TS</a>]

01:13:55   would you be throwing a party 18 months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4435">TS</a>]

01:13:57   later instead of being like oh I wonder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4437">TS</a>]

01:13:59   what this time travel is going to do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4439">TS</a>]

01:14:00   stock market the thing though just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4440">TS</a>]

01:14:02   the aspect of Louise and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4442">TS</a>]

01:14:05   about Louie said i love that i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4445">TS</a>]

01:14:07   that was a very beautiful story to tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4447">TS</a>]

01:14:10   and I love coming full circle to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4450">TS</a>]

01:14:13   drawings with them in the canary and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4453">TS</a>]

01:14:15   then also when she's back at the lake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4455">TS</a>]

01:14:20   house and pouring glasses wine there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4460">TS</a>]

01:14:22   were those empty glasses of wine which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4462">TS</a>]

01:14:23   are on the table by the door at the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4463">TS</a>]

01:14:27   first shot of the movie as the camera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4467">TS</a>]

01:14:29   pushed in on that and this we take to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4469">TS</a>]

01:14:32   mean is the night of the the night of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4472">TS</a>]

01:14:35   the daughters conception basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4475">TS</a>]

01:14:37   because this was the moment of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4477">TS</a>]

01:14:39   voiceover that's happening right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4479">TS</a>]

01:14:41   and the fact that Jeremy Renner's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4481">TS</a>]

01:14:42   outside she's bringing a glass of wine I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4482">TS</a>]

01:14:44   but that that also ties it back in with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4484">TS</a>]

01:14:48   what we saw in these these things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4488">TS</a>]

01:14:50   you thought were things you might have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4490">TS</a>]

01:14:51   thought were flashbacks earlier and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4491">TS</a>]

01:14:54   makes the film feel very coherent in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4494">TS</a>]

01:14:57   that regard so I i like that element of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4497">TS</a>]

01:14:59   the construction i like that i just i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4499">TS</a>]

01:15:01   like the I i think i like the bitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4501">TS</a>]

01:15:03   sweetness i think that's the thing i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4503">TS</a>]

01:15:04   like I think I like that it's sad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4504">TS</a>]

01:15:07   happy at the same time that that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4507">TS</a>]

01:15:09   that that really works for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4509">TS</a>]

01:15:10   I thought it was sort of perfect and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4510">TS</a>]

01:15:15   said at the outset i'm circling around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4515">TS</a>]

01:15:17   because my memory works in big blocks of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4517">TS</a>]

01:15:18   time he finally explained glen and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4518">TS</a>]

01:15:21   we work exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4521">TS</a>]

01:15:22   now you understand meet the others i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4522">TS</a>]

01:15:23   have to pod I did you know the always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4523">TS</a>]

01:15:27   knew the hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4527">TS</a>]

01:15:29   very good the bit about this is why the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4529">TS</a>]

01:15:31   story as i said the beginning always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4531">TS</a>]

01:15:32   gets to me is I feel like and you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4532">TS</a>]

01:15:34   talked about it throughout too is it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4534">TS</a>]

01:15:35   the the nature of being a parent is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4535">TS</a>]

01:15:37   you're always creating some part of life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4537">TS</a>]

01:15:39   that you don't know how long this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4539">TS</a>]

01:15:41   creature you love so much is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4541">TS</a>]

01:15:42   live you know how long you're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4542">TS</a>]

01:15:43   live whatever but you might live to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4543">TS</a>]

01:15:45   your child died which is a terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4545">TS</a>]

01:15:46   terrible thing we know when they live to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4546">TS</a>]

01:15:48   see our parents died that's much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4548">TS</a>]

01:15:49   likely and reasonable and and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4549">TS</a>]

01:15:51   horrible but seeing a child died is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4551">TS</a>]

01:15:54   worst thing in the story plays with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4554">TS</a>]

01:15:56   idea about that having almost having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4556">TS</a>]

01:15:59   choice it's like but you don't have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4559">TS</a>]

01:16:00   choice in the story she clearly doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4560">TS</a>]

01:16:02   have the choice here we you know I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4562">TS</a>]

01:16:05   interesting the different people think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4565">TS</a>]

01:16:06   she did that she had any free well there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4566">TS</a>]

01:16:08   but whether she did or didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4568">TS</a>]

01:16:10   that choice is made and she's now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4570">TS</a>]

01:16:12   fervently you deeply conscious other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4572">TS</a>]

01:16:14   from that moment forward and that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4574">TS</a>]

01:16:17   just hits me so hard to think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4577">TS</a>]

01:16:20   that I think it overwhelms any of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4580">TS</a>]

01:16:22   sort of you know tacked on bits that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4582">TS</a>]

01:16:24   beware global issues are are brought in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4584">TS</a>]

01:16:27   i think to you know heighten the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4587">TS</a>]

01:16:28   dramatic effect where it's really some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4588">TS</a>]

01:16:30   level this is a very small movie a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4590">TS</a>]

01:16:32   better view aliens and a few people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4592">TS</a>]

01:16:34   all m1 life and it's it's funny how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4594">TS</a>]

01:16:38   small it feels even though it's brings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4598">TS</a>]

01:16:41   in the global things I liked it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4601">TS</a>]

01:16:43   I I tacho a lot of the thoughts that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4603">TS</a>]

01:16:47   think several of my panelists had at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4607">TS</a>]

01:16:49   at the very beginning here at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4609">TS</a>]

01:16:51   say we're wrapping it all the way back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4611">TS</a>]

01:16:53   around I got ya i thought it was I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4613">TS</a>]

01:16:55   thought it was the kind of movie that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4615">TS</a>]

01:16:57   like to see I hope they make more movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4617">TS</a>]

01:16:59   like this i think it is the perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4619">TS</a>]

01:17:01   execution in a lot of ways of at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4621">TS</a>]

01:17:03   adapting a good science fiction short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4623">TS</a>]

01:17:06   story into a film which you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4626">TS</a>]

01:17:09   original properties in Hollywood not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4629">TS</a>]

01:17:12   common anymore and site you know science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4632">TS</a>]

01:17:15   fiction short stories are the perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4635">TS</a>]

01:17:16   thing to mine for movies they are a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4636">TS</a>]

01:17:19   match and this is a good story and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4639">TS</a>]

01:17:23   somebody who read it five years ago I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4643">TS</a>]

01:17:24   could not imagine a better adaptation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4644">TS</a>]

01:17:27   them that it is there is so much care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4647">TS</a>]

01:17:29   and there are so many things that could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4649">TS</a>]

01:17:30   have really screwed up and they took a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4650">TS</a>]

01:17:33   lot of care with the way that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4653">TS</a>]

01:17:34   screenplay is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4654">TS</a>]

01:17:36   and then the way it's directed and shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4656">TS</a>]

01:17:37   instead the music and all of that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4657">TS</a>]

01:17:39   think they did a very good job Amy Adams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4659">TS</a>]

01:17:41   is amazing in it and so yeah it i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4661">TS</a>]

01:17:45   enjoyed a rival more than I've enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4665">TS</a>]

01:17:47   the movie I in multiple years i'll put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4667">TS</a>]

01:17:51   it that way I I thought it was great so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4671">TS</a>]

01:17:53   i can't say how good of an adaptation it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4673">TS</a>]

01:17:55   was because it didn't read the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4675">TS</a>]

01:17:56   pages it was definitely it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4676">TS</a>]

01:17:58   definitely a good man residues yeah it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4678">TS</a>]

01:17:59   was definitely a good movie but like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4679">TS</a>]

01:18:01   know ASAP but my quibbles about it don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4681">TS</a>]

01:18:03   make me have any ill will towards this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4683">TS</a>]

01:18:04   movie at all and I think for me to get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4684">TS</a>]

01:18:08   over the things that bother me about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4688">TS</a>]

01:18:09   wouldn't take much like the way I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4689">TS</a>]

01:18:11   fix this movie is get rid of sapphire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4691">TS</a>]

01:18:13   Worf don't have the language be the gift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4693">TS</a>]

01:18:15   have her merely get this ability through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4695">TS</a>]

01:18:16   some other hand wavy means that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4696">TS</a>]

01:18:18   try to don't try to pin down to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4698">TS</a>]

01:18:20   concrete like languages and West I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4700">TS</a>]

01:18:22   it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:22   yeah right in it but then do the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4702">TS</a>]

01:18:25   thing is like the thing that you all got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4705">TS</a>]

01:18:27   out of it that I wish there was there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4707">TS</a>]

01:18:28   was more of is the idea that it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4708">TS</a>]

01:18:31   there and it's there in the first scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4711">TS</a>]

01:18:32   but I feel like when they wrap it up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4712">TS</a>]

01:18:34   the end there's a little bit too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4714">TS</a>]

01:18:35   linear time the idea that after she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4715">TS</a>]

01:18:37   receives this gift that her experience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4717">TS</a>]

01:18:40   of time is not like our so she is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4720">TS</a>]

01:18:42   live she's not choosing to do a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4722">TS</a>]

01:18:45   and living through that like she sees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4725">TS</a>]

01:18:46   the whole her life at the same as we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4726">TS</a>]

01:18:48   were also it sees the whole of her life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4728">TS</a>]

01:18:49   at the same time and if you can imagine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4729">TS</a>]

01:18:51   seeing it the whole your life at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4731">TS</a>]

01:18:53   same time you can see there with this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4733">TS</a>]

01:18:55   child in some portion or without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4735">TS</a>]

01:18:57   child's own portion when she looks at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4737">TS</a>]

01:18:59   the whole time she looks at the ring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4739">TS</a>]

01:19:01   says well I want the ring that has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4741">TS</a>]

01:19:03   kid part in here because i'm looking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4743">TS</a>]

01:19:04   the whole thing i'm not you know and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4744">TS</a>]

01:19:06   it's that she doesn't do if he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4746">TS</a>]

01:19:08   transformation it's not expressed to us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4748">TS</a>]

01:19:10   well that now she is different than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4750">TS</a>]

01:19:13   essentially every other human who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4753">TS</a>]

01:19:14   doesn't have this ability because she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4754">TS</a>]

01:19:15   not living her life from one day to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4755">TS</a>]

01:19:18   next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4758">TS</a>]

01:19:19   marching through time checking off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4759">TS</a>]

01:19:21   things on the calendar she is instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4761">TS</a>]

01:19:23   experiencing and viewing her entire life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4763">TS</a>]

01:19:26   at once and from that perspective offer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4766">TS</a>]

01:19:28   quote-unquote choices which are really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4768">TS</a>]

01:19:30   choices make sense and give the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4770">TS</a>]

01:19:33   heartwarming ending I just feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4773">TS</a>]

01:19:34   this that you have to bring a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4774">TS</a>]

01:19:36   that to it because by the end of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4776">TS</a>]

01:19:39   movie they make it seem like she has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4779">TS</a>]

01:19:41   like 0 and now we're in the present and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4781">TS</a>]

01:19:43   I'm making these choices and i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4783">TS</a>]

01:19:45   going to live out my days and i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4785">TS</a>]

01:19:47   going to let it go which is which is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4787">TS</a>]

01:19:48   for it to really work for it to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4788">TS</a>]

01:19:50   resonated maybe the book does this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4790">TS</a>]

01:19:51   better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4791">TS</a>]

01:19:52   I have to really internalize the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4792">TS</a>]

01:19:55   that she is not continuing her life from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4795">TS</a>]

01:19:57   this point on but did it but she is now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4797">TS</a>]

01:19:59   and has always been in forever will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4799">TS</a>]

01:20:02   experiencing her entire life or one at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4802">TS</a>]

01:20:03   once at and one giant ring in the in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4803">TS</a>]

01:20:07   book it's a story to be clear you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4807">TS</a>]

01:20:08   the story better I think in the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4808">TS</a>]

01:20:10   it's made clear that from the moment the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4810">TS</a>]

01:20:12   language affects her that she now sees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4812">TS</a>]

01:20:14   it from that point to her death but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4814">TS</a>]

01:20:17   beyond the aliens may have longer lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4817">TS</a>]

01:20:19   and Jason have to agree with you to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4819">TS</a>]

01:20:21   is I can't imagine a better adaptation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4821">TS</a>]

01:20:23   of a book that i love so or story looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4823">TS</a>]

01:20:26   so much I just you know it's not perfect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4826">TS</a>]

01:20:29   in every way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4829">TS</a>]

01:20:30   yeah I don't like some of the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4830">TS</a>]

01:20:31   add-ons but oh my god it's I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4831">TS</a>]

01:20:34   it couldn't have been a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4834">TS</a>]

01:20:35   adaptation yeah I i thinkyeah the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4835">TS</a>]

01:20:37   impression i got in the way I read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4837">TS</a>]

01:20:39   movie is that she is basically kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4839">TS</a>]

01:20:41   not unstuck in time because that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4841">TS</a>]

01:20:43   quite right to use the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4843">TS</a>]

01:20:44   slaughterhouse-five but it's that idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4844">TS</a>]

01:20:46   is like her her view of time is broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4846">TS</a>]

01:20:49   at that point forever like she is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4849">TS</a>]

01:20:51   hopping around between all the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4851">TS</a>]

01:20:53   things that happen in her in her life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4853">TS</a>]

01:20:55   and that's just how she is now but uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4855">TS</a>]

01:20:58   you know but books can make definitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4858">TS</a>]

01:21:00   statements and movies have images on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4860">TS</a>]

01:21:02   screen and you have to read them I I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4862">TS</a>]

01:21:05   I've been wondering about we see her at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4865">TS</a>]

01:21:07   the end kind of teaching seminars about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4867">TS</a>]

01:21:10   this language she has the book about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4870">TS</a>]

01:21:13   language do other people have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4873">TS</a>]

01:21:15   ability or is she so superior in her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4875">TS</a>]

01:21:17   linguistic abilities that she is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4877">TS</a>]

01:21:20   only one who can see forward through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4880">TS</a>]

01:21:23   time nearly teaching the language surely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4883">TS</a>]

01:21:25   wouldn't give you a view of all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4885">TS</a>]

01:21:26   space-time so I think she's the only one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4886">TS</a>]

01:21:27   with the gift that's my headcanon it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4887">TS</a>]

01:21:29   just you know it's just your life that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4889">TS</a>]

01:21:30   you don't see all of space-time the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4890">TS</a>]

01:21:32   aliens made live to be thousand years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4892">TS</a>]

01:21:34   old my impression is that because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4894">TS</a>]

01:21:36   need humanity in 3,000 years they gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4896">TS</a>]

01:21:38   them the language as a tool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4898">TS</a>]

01:21:40   plus the schematic to build whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4900">TS</a>]

01:21:42   they need to get built the aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4902">TS</a>]

01:21:44   connect there helping 3,000 years I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4904">TS</a>]

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01:21:51   meet the aliens ever managed to learn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4911">TS</a>]

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01:21:57   can teach other concepts of this alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4917">TS</a>]

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01:22:10   me whether she can now teach you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4930">TS</a>]

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01:22:19   teach you the basics and and you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4939">TS</a>]

01:22:22   never be able to see it like her that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4942">TS</a>]

01:22:24   that is left to the imagination but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4944">TS</a>]

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01:22:36   pots can teach that language classroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4956">TS</a>]

01:22:38   have non-native speakers to know English [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4958">TS</a>]

01:22:41   allowed in the classroom just a series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4961">TS</a>]

01:22:42   of loud farting noise and everybody gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4962">TS</a>]

01:22:44   an ink spray bottle and a pump in water [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4964">TS</a>]

01:22:46   and then they all start getting to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4966">TS</a>]

01:22:48   about speaking but everyone's here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4968">TS</a>]

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01:23:00   they build the language of my thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/4980">TS</a>]

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01:23:21   fun movie i hope you've all seen it if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/5001">TS</a>]

01:23:23   you're listening to this but if not you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/5003">TS</a>]

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01:23:26   it's good i like to thank my guests [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/5006">TS</a>]

01:23:28   doesn't matter when they listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/5008">TS</a>]

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01:23:50   while you're here though so be warned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/5030">TS</a>]

01:23:53   alright thanks to my guests for being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/5033">TS</a>]

01:23:55   here John siracusa thank you as always I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/5035">TS</a>]

01:23:57   have no hate in my heart for this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/5037">TS</a>]

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01:24:11   other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/5051">TS</a>]

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01:24:14   thank you and Glenn fleischmann thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/5054">TS</a>]

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01:24:31   space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/5071">TS</a>]

01:24:32   thanks everybody out there for listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/5072">TS</a>]

01:24:33   to this edition of the uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/5073">TS</a>]

01:24:35   will see last week or next week for now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/5075">TS</a>]

01:24:42   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMY4qP70/5082">TS</a>]