39: Bigger on the Inside
00:00:00
◼
►
the incomparable product test number 39
[TS]
00:00:09
◼
►
may 2011 we're back on the hospital with
[TS]
00:00:14
◼
►
another of our flash podcasts talking
[TS]
00:00:17
◼
►
about the season of doctor who and
[TS]
00:00:18
◼
►
tonight we are going to talk about the
[TS]
00:00:21
◼
►
latest installment an episode called the
[TS]
00:00:23
◼
►
doctor's wife by renowned writer of
[TS]
00:00:26
◼
►
comics and novels and TV and movies and
[TS]
00:00:30
◼
►
all sorts of other things you know I
[TS]
00:00:32
◼
►
don't know songs stage plays poems
[TS]
00:00:35
◼
►
comics ice economics he actually gets
[TS]
00:00:38
◼
►
done bro he wrote a lot of them so we
[TS]
00:00:40
◼
►
should say it twice
[TS]
00:00:41
◼
►
yeah exactly i'm here right here's a
[TS]
00:00:43
◼
►
Twitter feed Neil Neil Gaiman wrote this
[TS]
00:00:46
◼
►
episode the doctor's wife and so join me
[TS]
00:00:49
◼
►
today as you may have heard to talk
[TS]
00:00:51
◼
►
about it we have damn Ouran High Dam
[TS]
00:00:54
◼
►
sandwiches
[TS]
00:00:55
◼
►
Glenn fleischmann how do and Scott
[TS]
00:00:58
◼
►
McNulty hello hello i enjoy how you say
[TS]
00:01:03
◼
►
thank you it's very exciting very
[TS]
00:01:07
◼
►
energetic which I like enthusiasm is
[TS]
00:01:09
◼
►
good so the doctor's wife this is
[TS]
00:01:11
◼
►
perhaps in some ways the most hyped
[TS]
00:01:13
◼
►
episode single episode of doctor who and
[TS]
00:01:17
◼
►
what it's in a long time i mean i think
[TS]
00:01:19
◼
►
if you take the sort of regenerations
[TS]
00:01:22
◼
►
and and season premieres and things like
[TS]
00:01:24
◼
►
that out of it just as a run-of-the-mill
[TS]
00:01:26
◼
►
standalone episode largely because it's
[TS]
00:01:29
◼
►
neil gaiman and he's got quite a
[TS]
00:01:30
◼
►
following himself but it you know the
[TS]
00:01:35
◼
►
fact is no matter whose name is on the
[TS]
00:01:37
◼
►
credits it's still an episode of Doctor
[TS]
00:01:39
◼
►
Who and it's something that needs to be
[TS]
00:01:41
◼
►
judged on its own merits i'm curious
[TS]
00:01:43
◼
►
what you guys what you guys thought
[TS]
00:01:46
◼
►
where you mean the hype was so huge that
[TS]
00:01:48
◼
►
it's kinda I felt on one level was going
[TS]
00:01:50
◼
►
to really hard for this episode to live
[TS]
00:01:51
◼
►
up to the hype and had a titillating
[TS]
00:01:54
◼
►
title right now just life
[TS]
00:01:56
◼
►
add me as it turns out was kind of a red
[TS]
00:01:59
◼
►
herring in some ways I you know I go
[TS]
00:02:01
◼
►
further and say that I think I think it
[TS]
00:02:03
◼
►
was a terrible title i think that it was
[TS]
00:02:05
◼
►
a title that was chosen for marketing or
[TS]
00:02:08
◼
►
services especially for the British
[TS]
00:02:09
◼
►
media to get all you know tutor about
[TS]
00:02:13
◼
►
and go home
[TS]
00:02:13
◼
►
what does it mean to lead people astray
[TS]
00:02:15
◼
►
and when i when i read that one of the
[TS]
00:02:17
◼
►
other titles for it was bigger on the
[TS]
00:02:18
◼
►
inside i thought well that's your title
[TS]
00:02:21
◼
►
while the original title apparently was
[TS]
00:02:23
◼
►
the house of nut house of night is also
[TS]
00:02:24
◼
►
which is also pretty good I thought yeah
[TS]
00:02:26
◼
►
it's it's not appetizing pocket if it's
[TS]
00:02:28
◼
►
got something going on there
[TS]
00:02:29
◼
►
yeah the way it didn't I knew that going
[TS]
00:02:31
◼
►
in when i watch the episode I thought
[TS]
00:02:33
◼
►
that's not a great title for could have
[TS]
00:02:35
◼
►
called it behind the blue door as well
[TS]
00:02:36
◼
►
huh might have had some connotation
[TS]
00:02:39
◼
►
problems a lot of bigger on the inside
[TS]
00:02:41
◼
►
and around the inside i think that would
[TS]
00:02:43
◼
►
know that one of its a little it's a
[TS]
00:02:45
◼
►
little flip it's a little flip for them
[TS]
00:02:48
◼
►
yeah i feel i thought i'd have basically
[TS]
00:02:50
◼
►
no game and wrote a two-part christmas
[TS]
00:02:51
◼
►
episode and they managed to squeeze into
[TS]
00:02:53
◼
►
42 minutes or 48 minutes might have been
[TS]
00:02:56
◼
►
better and I might even better in a
[TS]
00:02:57
◼
►
Christmas episode VII I think that I i
[TS]
00:03:00
◼
►
don't mean it's bad but like I felt I
[TS]
00:03:02
◼
►
felt like there was so much that there
[TS]
00:03:03
◼
►
needed to be you know and I know that
[TS]
00:03:06
◼
►
they cut a bunch of stuff out
[TS]
00:03:07
◼
►
I mean like obviously you always do that
[TS]
00:03:09
◼
►
but I know specifically in this case the
[TS]
00:03:11
◼
►
machines that were cut out and I guess I
[TS]
00:03:13
◼
►
felt like again maybe part of this is
[TS]
00:03:15
◼
►
just coming up to the hype and i find
[TS]
00:03:16
◼
►
that often with things that are really
[TS]
00:03:17
◼
►
hyped like this my first watching is not
[TS]
00:03:20
◼
►
a good not as positive because of the
[TS]
00:03:23
◼
►
hype and then after I've already seen it
[TS]
00:03:25
◼
►
was declared never seen it you know i
[TS]
00:03:27
◼
►
have to worry about the hype but i
[TS]
00:03:28
◼
►
haven't had a chance to rewatch it so
[TS]
00:03:29
◼
►
but apparently i live under a rock
[TS]
00:03:31
◼
►
because the first time i heard of that
[TS]
00:03:33
◼
►
this was even going to be like a hyped
[TS]
00:03:36
◼
►
thing was last week when i was on
[TS]
00:03:37
◼
►
another incomparable and someone mention
[TS]
00:03:40
◼
►
that neil gaiman had Roach doctor who
[TS]
00:03:43
◼
►
episode was like I should probably watch
[TS]
00:03:44
◼
►
the hockey ball week who I'd been in
[TS]
00:03:48
◼
►
there are villa in Afghanistan but I i
[TS]
00:03:53
◼
►
thought was pretty good i mean i think
[TS]
00:03:55
◼
►
one was saying about it kind of feeling
[TS]
00:03:57
◼
►
like a Christmas episode is right on
[TS]
00:03:59
◼
►
because you know you know gaming rights
[TS]
00:04:01
◼
►
kind of like fairytale s kind of things
[TS]
00:04:03
◼
►
and I think that that kind of feeling
[TS]
00:04:05
◼
►
came through the episode i think it had
[TS]
00:04:08
◼
►
it had that same kind of had more whimsy
[TS]
00:04:11
◼
►
they're used to in this sort of
[TS]
00:04:12
◼
►
Mythology episodes of the show that you
[TS]
00:04:15
◼
►
know chasing the big plot arc for the
[TS]
00:04:17
◼
►
season and I mean I like it had you know
[TS]
00:04:19
◼
►
it had the death the Time Lords
[TS]
00:04:21
◼
►
references had humanity that little bit
[TS]
00:04:23
◼
►
i should listen to matt smith four times
[TS]
00:04:25
◼
►
figure out what he was saying
[TS]
00:04:27
◼
►
when he says to him you want to be
[TS]
00:04:29
◼
►
forgiven don't you and he said don't we
[TS]
00:04:31
◼
►
all but I couldn't make it out it was
[TS]
00:04:33
◼
►
bloody have trouble with keep mumbles a
[TS]
00:04:36
◼
►
yeah i got that a previous episode oh
[TS]
00:04:38
◼
►
yeah but I thought you said big themes
[TS]
00:04:41
◼
►
that had the righteous Time Lord you
[TS]
00:04:44
◼
►
know righteous Time Lord it had a madman
[TS]
00:04:47
◼
►
with the box i don't have the box
[TS]
00:04:49
◼
►
anymore which is which is great so he's
[TS]
00:04:51
◼
►
left to entirely his own devices and
[TS]
00:04:54
◼
►
then he goes all MacGyver so he built
[TS]
00:04:55
◼
►
stuff out of nothing which we love with
[TS]
00:04:57
◼
►
the doctor has to work without having
[TS]
00:04:59
◼
►
his TARDIS with him but he hasn't
[TS]
00:04:59
◼
►
started with them and then you have
[TS]
00:05:02
◼
►
worrying Amy screaming running down
[TS]
00:05:04
◼
►
hallways which is always good almost
[TS]
00:05:05
◼
►
falling down pits anytime you have
[TS]
00:05:07
◼
►
characters almost falling down pits
[TS]
00:05:08
◼
►
great episode
[TS]
00:05:09
◼
►
alright you don't worry dies so just i
[TS]
00:05:11
◼
►
know i would you got it wasn't gonna
[TS]
00:05:14
◼
►
happen through I got to be going like at
[TS]
00:05:17
◼
►
least even killed him with aa realize
[TS]
00:05:20
◼
►
that I didn't remember that you're so
[TS]
00:05:21
◼
►
right i was but he's just gonna be rain
[TS]
00:05:24
◼
►
Joe because he actually died every
[TS]
00:05:25
◼
►
episode behind the first episode this
[TS]
00:05:27
◼
►
season to order a terrible he died the
[TS]
00:05:30
◼
►
second but can they go so far around
[TS]
00:05:32
◼
►
that becomes funny again I'd like that
[TS]
00:05:35
◼
►
worried also you have criticized
[TS]
00:05:37
◼
►
worrying previous episodes I think
[TS]
00:05:38
◼
►
Arthur Darvill is a is a perfectly fine
[TS]
00:05:41
◼
►
actor and their moments and illegal
[TS]
00:05:43
◼
►
yeah it pulls it out of times but this
[TS]
00:05:45
◼
►
thing about they've actually the point
[TS]
00:05:46
◼
►
he's a nurse and I i actually the
[TS]
00:05:48
◼
►
moments where he's actually professional
[TS]
00:05:49
◼
►
you're like oh he's not just some guy
[TS]
00:05:51
◼
►
you know amy was like most of the
[TS]
00:05:53
◼
►
Companions of doctor takes are aimless
[TS]
00:05:56
◼
►
people then figure out the way the world
[TS]
00:05:57
◼
►
they're not as directed Martha Jones
[TS]
00:05:59
◼
►
maybe notwithstanding soundtrack to be a
[TS]
00:06:01
◼
►
doctor and she fell into running along
[TS]
00:06:03
◼
►
with other people don't know whether way
[TS]
00:06:05
◼
►
and he's like he's got a profession is a
[TS]
00:06:07
◼
►
nurse she does job damn well and when
[TS]
00:06:09
◼
►
they actually need medical help
[TS]
00:06:10
◼
►
he's there and I actually like the fact
[TS]
00:06:12
◼
►
that the Rory you know he could he when
[TS]
00:06:14
◼
►
he turned off the shield's he was the
[TS]
00:06:16
◼
►
telepathic interface you know all the
[TS]
00:06:18
◼
►
things that actually the pretty one
[TS]
00:06:19
◼
►
he's thinking I agree with good i really
[TS]
00:06:22
◼
►
i mean i think i think he hasn't even
[TS]
00:06:25
◼
►
given a like a fair shake basically and
[TS]
00:06:27
◼
►
I and I think it was nice to see him get
[TS]
00:06:28
◼
►
much more stuff to do in this episode
[TS]
00:06:30
◼
►
and I feel like he's that I feel like
[TS]
00:06:33
◼
►
he's a good character who is then
[TS]
00:06:36
◼
►
misused as a plot device
[TS]
00:06:38
◼
►
I mean I really I and that's where the
[TS]
00:06:39
◼
►
deaths come
[TS]
00:06:40
◼
►
and I think that although you know what
[TS]
00:06:41
◼
►
you know there was a nice touch in this
[TS]
00:06:43
◼
►
episode i thought was in that that scene
[TS]
00:06:46
◼
►
where they have to telepathically unlock
[TS]
00:06:48
◼
►
the door to the control room and she and
[TS]
00:06:50
◼
►
Amy thinks about what these you know
[TS]
00:06:53
◼
►
those those words mean to her right and
[TS]
00:06:55
◼
►
the scene was a joy where she had
[TS]
00:06:58
◼
►
enlarged their lights yeah delight your
[TS]
00:06:59
◼
►
pictures your wedding right which is I
[TS]
00:07:02
◼
►
thought was a nice touch it was not
[TS]
00:07:03
◼
►
because it's one of those things that it
[TS]
00:07:06
◼
►
was a subtle reinforcement of their
[TS]
00:07:08
◼
►
relationship and we've seen a lot of
[TS]
00:07:09
◼
►
like late-night your fit right and so it
[TS]
00:07:12
◼
►
was nice to see that like oh that's
[TS]
00:07:14
◼
►
that's the way it should be right like
[TS]
00:07:16
◼
►
that's the relationship we want to root
[TS]
00:07:17
◼
►
for is the one that's that sort of you
[TS]
00:07:20
◼
►
know that's solid and they can't be
[TS]
00:07:21
◼
►
holding a bigger wedge for us to his
[TS]
00:07:23
◼
►
time goes on it's like now Amy's already
[TS]
00:07:25
◼
►
you know sort of over the doctor not
[TS]
00:07:26
◼
►
always sure but we're getting further
[TS]
00:07:28
◼
►
and further away from that and now it's
[TS]
00:07:29
◼
►
like she's like oh oh you're in love
[TS]
00:07:31
◼
►
with the TARDIS and you always have been
[TS]
00:07:33
◼
►
and of course she's always with you and
[TS]
00:07:35
◼
►
now she's been personified so that wedge
[TS]
00:07:37
◼
►
gets even broader there's not like less
[TS]
00:07:39
◼
►
and less of a romantic thing over time
[TS]
00:07:42
◼
►
yeah 3 people who tardis is one too many
[TS]
00:07:46
◼
►
it's probably a good rule of thumb
[TS]
00:07:49
◼
►
that's not a picture I mean there's also
[TS]
00:07:51
◼
►
some there is some great dialogue
[TS]
00:07:52
◼
►
especially I thought the interactions
[TS]
00:07:54
◼
►
between the doctor in the TARDIS were
[TS]
00:07:57
◼
►
for the most part that was the part I
[TS]
00:07:58
◼
►
enjoyed I don't think the plot I didn't
[TS]
00:08:00
◼
►
pay much attention to in some ways
[TS]
00:08:02
◼
►
well minutes they need to stop a even
[TS]
00:08:04
◼
►
they even admit that the the root of
[TS]
00:08:06
◼
►
this story is just what if the TARDIS
[TS]
00:08:08
◼
►
were personified and that's what this
[TS]
00:08:09
◼
►
episode is it's the doctor gets the one
[TS]
00:08:11
◼
►
chance to interact with the TARDIS and
[TS]
00:08:14
◼
►
actually talk with her in a bit of a
[TS]
00:08:17
◼
►
comic book filled from that standpoint
[TS]
00:08:19
◼
►
is I haven't allowed the Doctor Who
[TS]
00:08:20
◼
►
comics I think they're sort of thin but
[TS]
00:08:23
◼
►
the ones i read our little more like
[TS]
00:08:25
◼
►
this there's a lot of what if things
[TS]
00:08:26
◼
►
that are hard to do on screen I
[TS]
00:08:29
◼
►
understand the radio plays a bit like
[TS]
00:08:30
◼
►
that as well where it's things that like
[TS]
00:08:32
◼
►
it would cost such a fortune to do the s
[TS]
00:08:35
◼
►
that this ssei for it so they can't do
[TS]
00:08:38
◼
►
it then attended do so they have stories
[TS]
00:08:40
◼
►
that play out the comic books and same
[TS]
00:08:41
◼
►
thing here like there are aspects of
[TS]
00:08:43
◼
►
this that that they figure way to do
[TS]
00:08:46
◼
►
this without it being expensive but
[TS]
00:08:48
◼
►
being interesting in the same kind of
[TS]
00:08:49
◼
►
what-if scenario apparently it's quite
[TS]
00:08:51
◼
►
it was quite extreme
[TS]
00:08:52
◼
►
and some which is what has this season
[TS]
00:08:53
◼
►
instead of last they ran out of money
[TS]
00:08:54
◼
►
last year that's funny
[TS]
00:08:56
◼
►
you got a real game and talking about
[TS]
00:08:58
◼
►
all the scenes they caught on the
[TS]
00:08:59
◼
►
specimens in the special features but
[TS]
00:09:01
◼
►
yeah i'm wondering that's why i say that
[TS]
00:09:03
◼
►
did feel like a spectacular that they
[TS]
00:09:05
◼
►
pulled off i mean i think it had a I
[TS]
00:09:07
◼
►
think it a good through-line I think
[TS]
00:09:09
◼
►
it's some good like B&C plots to it I
[TS]
00:09:11
◼
►
thought it was very very neil gaiman
[TS]
00:09:13
◼
►
dish without violating the canon of the
[TS]
00:09:15
◼
►
universe but it wasn't a more to that
[TS]
00:09:17
◼
►
point it makes deliveries i was reading
[TS]
00:09:19
◼
►
the wikipedia article afterwards there's
[TS]
00:09:20
◼
►
law stuff I didn't get but they're
[TS]
00:09:21
◼
►
apparently a lot of direct references
[TS]
00:09:23
◼
►
into that into past you know third
[TS]
00:09:25
◼
►
fourth doctor stories in terms of things
[TS]
00:09:27
◼
►
like getting rid of the rooms in the
[TS]
00:09:29
◼
►
target ordering a bite extra thrust
[TS]
00:09:30
◼
►
those are all references
[TS]
00:09:32
◼
►
I mean what I really castro valley yeah
[TS]
00:09:35
◼
►
yeah i like to put the the over i loved
[TS]
00:09:37
◼
►
seeing the old control room
[TS]
00:09:39
◼
►
archives and spending the night the
[TS]
00:09:41
◼
►
Tenth Doctor I that gave me a brief
[TS]
00:09:42
◼
►
paying of like oh they kept that very
[TS]
00:09:45
◼
►
radical it's a standing for for more
[TS]
00:09:48
◼
►
than a year it's at the doctor who
[TS]
00:09:49
◼
►
experience now in life thoughts all you
[TS]
00:09:50
◼
►
want but they can't be blown it up
[TS]
00:09:52
◼
►
no they they blow up little parts
[TS]
00:09:55
◼
►
actually you can see at the doctor who
[TS]
00:09:56
◼
►
organized it is that it's scorched a
[TS]
00:09:58
◼
►
little bit from the pyrotechnics of of
[TS]
00:10:00
◼
►
david tennant's regeneration but they
[TS]
00:10:02
◼
►
left it standing for like a year because
[TS]
00:10:04
◼
►
they knew they were going to use it in
[TS]
00:10:05
◼
►
that episode and got delayed so they
[TS]
00:10:06
◼
►
kept standing until they shot that scene
[TS]
00:10:09
◼
►
in this episode and then they finally
[TS]
00:10:11
◼
►
could take it down but it was a really
[TS]
00:10:13
◼
►
cool you know kind of moment to see Amy
[TS]
00:10:15
◼
►
and Rory run-in ok that's the old
[TS]
00:10:17
◼
►
control room of this place
[TS]
00:10:20
◼
►
yeah it was good so so what did you
[TS]
00:10:23
◼
►
think of saran Jones as interests who
[TS]
00:10:26
◼
►
you know that but the personification of
[TS]
00:10:28
◼
►
the TARDIS I thought she was kind of
[TS]
00:10:30
◼
►
appropriately batty and trying to figure
[TS]
00:10:32
◼
►
out what it like i like i like the touch
[TS]
00:10:34
◼
►
that the idea is the TARDIS is eternal
[TS]
00:10:36
◼
►
it lives everywhere in time and space
[TS]
00:10:37
◼
►
and so doesn't know how to react when it
[TS]
00:10:40
◼
►
suddenly living time linearly because it
[TS]
00:10:42
◼
►
knows everything that's going to happen
[TS]
00:10:44
◼
►
and everything that has happened and is
[TS]
00:10:47
◼
►
trying to just get a grasp on what it's
[TS]
00:10:48
◼
►
like to be one of these people walking
[TS]
00:10:50
◼
►
yeah I thought she did a great job and
[TS]
00:10:52
◼
►
she held her own you know that was and
[TS]
00:10:54
◼
►
that's the important thing right
[TS]
00:10:56
◼
►
the TARDIS as glamazon like the TARDIS
[TS]
00:10:58
◼
►
is the doctors constant companion right
[TS]
00:11:00
◼
►
and in that way
[TS]
00:11:02
◼
►
his is sort of original his partner
[TS]
00:11:05
◼
►
and it needs to be a symbiotic equal
[TS]
00:11:08
◼
►
when given take relationship and so she
[TS]
00:11:10
◼
►
stole her own right exactly which makes
[TS]
00:11:13
◼
►
it earlier
[TS]
00:11:14
◼
►
not only is that funny that you know I
[TS]
00:11:15
◼
►
know I told I stole a Time Lord escaped
[TS]
00:11:17
◼
►
which is the just don't understand this
[TS]
00:11:19
◼
►
entire series mythos but it also puts
[TS]
00:11:22
◼
►
them on equal footing or puts her one up
[TS]
00:11:25
◼
►
on him but that means you know you can't
[TS]
00:11:27
◼
►
take her as being anything less than the
[TS]
00:11:29
◼
►
doctors match
[TS]
00:11:30
◼
►
I love and I guess I don't know there's
[TS]
00:11:33
◼
►
lots of great little dialogue bits but
[TS]
00:11:35
◼
►
my favorite possibly was about the the
[TS]
00:11:38
◼
►
the door
[TS]
00:11:39
◼
►
you never read the instructions on the
[TS]
00:11:40
◼
►
door it says polls it's what do you do
[TS]
00:11:42
◼
►
every time you push this was to open
[TS]
00:11:44
◼
►
outwards yeah that was that was really
[TS]
00:11:47
◼
►
funny although i believe that that is
[TS]
00:11:49
◼
►
about the panel that's got the phone in
[TS]
00:11:51
◼
►
not the whole door but you know it was
[TS]
00:11:53
◼
►
too funny to what I was amusing else
[TS]
00:11:56
◼
►
because i have noted earlier in the
[TS]
00:11:57
◼
►
episode because they showed it a shot oh
[TS]
00:11:59
◼
►
they linger on it right and I was like
[TS]
00:12:01
◼
►
good you're looking at the wrong day i
[TS]
00:12:03
◼
►
was i was thinking the exact same thing
[TS]
00:12:04
◼
►
it's funny they opened the wrong way and
[TS]
00:12:06
◼
►
then they mentioned it was like oh
[TS]
00:12:07
◼
►
that's great yeah I thought she's I
[TS]
00:12:10
◼
►
thought you did a lovely job of having
[TS]
00:12:11
◼
►
um you know we have too many fish out of
[TS]
00:12:13
◼
►
water there's always the you know what
[TS]
00:12:14
◼
►
is this thing you call love you know I
[TS]
00:12:16
◼
►
always kinda hate the android alien
[TS]
00:12:19
◼
►
whatever and she's like no she just had
[TS]
00:12:21
◼
►
a hard time for what now was in verb
[TS]
00:12:24
◼
►
tenses but then she got the hang of it
[TS]
00:12:26
◼
►
and was totally on board and I you know
[TS]
00:12:28
◼
►
and put the whole thing where she's
[TS]
00:12:31
◼
►
she's playing him she knows she has a
[TS]
00:12:33
◼
►
limited time with him
[TS]
00:12:34
◼
►
it really felt like this beautiful
[TS]
00:12:35
◼
►
little how to do between the two of them
[TS]
00:12:38
◼
►
as opposed to being like she wasn't
[TS]
00:12:39
◼
►
important she wasn't serious she wasn't
[TS]
00:12:42
◼
►
larger-than-life but i'm not even that
[TS]
00:12:44
◼
►
great line she had the you know she's
[TS]
00:12:46
◼
►
living things you know you're bigger on
[TS]
00:12:48
◼
►
the inside right that's why they're so i
[TS]
00:12:52
◼
►
think that would have been a good title
[TS]
00:12:53
◼
►
is this i just it isn't just flip it you
[TS]
00:12:55
◼
►
think it's going to be and then you
[TS]
00:12:57
◼
►
realize that does have this extra
[TS]
00:12:58
◼
►
meaning when she says that I thought the
[TS]
00:13:00
◼
►
one the one place where this episode did
[TS]
00:13:03
◼
►
kind of fall down and i think and i
[TS]
00:13:06
◼
►
liked it but I i think this has to do
[TS]
00:13:08
◼
►
with the fact that it's so packed and
[TS]
00:13:10
◼
►
they had to fit in the in the time slot
[TS]
00:13:12
◼
►
and it really was probably more like 60
[TS]
00:13:14
◼
►
minutes worth like you said like a
[TS]
00:13:15
◼
►
little special is the stuff on the
[TS]
00:13:18
◼
►
dammit before we get into the act in the
[TS]
00:13:20
◼
►
TARDIS and Serrato while with Raymond
[TS]
00:13:23
◼
►
Raymond while the doctor and interests
[TS]
00:13:25
◼
►
are building the kind of replacement
[TS]
00:13:26
◼
►
artists the stuff with with auntie and
[TS]
00:13:29
◼
►
uncle or people that kind of like
[TS]
00:13:32
◼
►
they're there for to advance the plot
[TS]
00:13:33
◼
►
and then they literally are just like
[TS]
00:13:35
◼
►
now this interesting stuff there right
[TS]
00:13:37
◼
►
that they are patchwork and they're
[TS]
00:13:38
◼
►
assembled and there but the thralls of
[TS]
00:13:40
◼
►
of the house and I felt like you wanted
[TS]
00:13:43
◼
►
more of that you wanted to see who they
[TS]
00:13:45
◼
►
were and why they were this way and you
[TS]
00:13:47
◼
►
wanted more of them being kind of
[TS]
00:13:48
◼
►
dominated and threatened by the house so
[TS]
00:13:51
◼
►
that when the house goes into the TARDIS
[TS]
00:13:53
◼
►
it's you know it's scary it's scarier
[TS]
00:13:55
◼
►
and they die and it's more affecting and
[TS]
00:13:59
◼
►
you don't like the food i love the food
[TS]
00:14:01
◼
►
but the unit was really just sort of
[TS]
00:14:02
◼
►
like why not let's make it a nude was
[TS]
00:14:05
◼
►
just there was not another was a hat-tip
[TS]
00:14:07
◼
►
yeah but it wasn't it there was no point
[TS]
00:14:09
◼
►
you're right it didn't matter that it
[TS]
00:14:11
◼
►
was in it I thought like the stakes
[TS]
00:14:13
◼
►
could have been up to a little bit more
[TS]
00:14:14
◼
►
than either let's give him that one line
[TS]
00:14:15
◼
►
about another route I couldn't say it
[TS]
00:14:17
◼
►
right but what are you going to cut
[TS]
00:14:18
◼
►
right i mean that's sort of how I felt
[TS]
00:14:19
◼
►
is that this is obviously the stuff that
[TS]
00:14:21
◼
►
they would you would need to cut because
[TS]
00:14:22
◼
►
you can't cut all this other stuff but
[TS]
00:14:24
◼
►
it did suffer i think because we didn't
[TS]
00:14:26
◼
►
get enough of that time with those
[TS]
00:14:29
◼
►
characters are the first scene is really
[TS]
00:14:31
◼
►
quite remarkable especially in a show
[TS]
00:14:34
◼
►
that is for children because the first
[TS]
00:14:37
◼
►
scene is essentially these two people
[TS]
00:14:39
◼
►
leading a third person and who says I
[TS]
00:14:42
◼
►
guess it so it's me and they're like
[TS]
00:14:43
◼
►
yeah it's gonna be you and what here's
[TS]
00:14:45
◼
►
what we're going to do we're going to
[TS]
00:14:46
◼
►
kill you and stick somebody else inside
[TS]
00:14:48
◼
►
your body and she's like I'm scared well
[TS]
00:14:50
◼
►
I would be it's gonna hurt like hell and
[TS]
00:14:51
◼
►
then bang she's dead
[TS]
00:14:53
◼
►
I mean wow what it is trigger dark dark
[TS]
00:14:57
◼
►
yellow is the implied that I don't know
[TS]
00:14:59
◼
►
why she's a name and the other three
[TS]
00:15:00
◼
►
have character attributes but it seems
[TS]
00:15:04
◼
►
to be implied that they've done this so
[TS]
00:15:05
◼
►
many times before that you know maybe
[TS]
00:15:08
◼
►
there's not much of a person in there I
[TS]
00:15:10
◼
►
don't know that may be the limiting
[TS]
00:15:11
◼
►
factor later I don't know I was little I
[TS]
00:15:14
◼
►
was a little sad that the I mean I don't
[TS]
00:15:16
◼
►
know if you want call red herring around
[TS]
00:15:18
◼
►
i get and it made sense at the time lord
[TS]
00:15:19
◼
►
angle with the mail and every getting
[TS]
00:15:22
◼
►
him getting mail and everything I
[TS]
00:15:24
◼
►
although it was entirely i mean i guess
[TS]
00:15:26
◼
►
the house sent that last message to try
[TS]
00:15:28
◼
►
and entice them they're right but yeah I
[TS]
00:15:31
◼
►
mean it was cool
[TS]
00:15:32
◼
►
it as someone who has not watched a lot
[TS]
00:15:34
◼
►
of the prior like the non modern doctor
[TS]
00:15:36
◼
►
who you always feel like you you lack a
[TS]
00:15:39
◼
►
little bit not having seen all the you
[TS]
00:15:42
◼
►
know the other time lords in except for
[TS]
00:15:45
◼
►
you know the master master yeah and a
[TS]
00:15:47
◼
►
little bit of you have more cancel it
[TS]
00:15:48
◼
►
was cool to have his attention like I
[TS]
00:15:51
◼
►
don't like it was cool to hear about
[TS]
00:15:52
◼
►
like he's like all the Corsair that was
[TS]
00:15:54
◼
►
great that was like oh wow that sounds
[TS]
00:15:55
◼
►
cool like what i wanna i wanna know more
[TS]
00:15:58
◼
►
about that guy
[TS]
00:15:59
◼
►
ya he's dead yeah but they always got it
[TS]
00:16:03
◼
►
he's gonna get to see the arm the
[TS]
00:16:04
◼
►
Corsair the math you don't get to see
[TS]
00:16:06
◼
►
his arms and guests are the arm of the
[TS]
00:16:08
◼
►
questionnaire or said no that was good
[TS]
00:16:10
◼
►
actually that is a apparently I i saw
[TS]
00:16:14
◼
►
this episode once and I can't have no
[TS]
00:16:16
◼
►
recollection of it all but Patrick
[TS]
00:16:18
◼
►
travels last episode 1969 the war games
[TS]
00:16:20
◼
►
there's a scene where the doctor i
[TS]
00:16:23
◼
►
believe puts a message he has to some of
[TS]
00:16:26
◼
►
the time lords and he puts a message in
[TS]
00:16:27
◼
►
a cube and sends it off and neil gaiman
[TS]
00:16:29
◼
►
said oh I want to do I want to use that
[TS]
00:16:31
◼
►
that we haven't seen that since 1969
[TS]
00:16:33
◼
►
always thought that was cool
[TS]
00:16:35
◼
►
so that's what those cubes are is
[TS]
00:16:37
◼
►
actually a reference to Doctor Who from
[TS]
00:16:39
◼
►
you know 40-plus years ago which is
[TS]
00:16:42
◼
►
nobody was a giant doctor he's a huge
[TS]
00:16:44
◼
►
Doctor Who yeah I can believe it also
[TS]
00:16:46
◼
►
there's the developed telepathic thing
[TS]
00:16:48
◼
►
which they use at times seems like it
[TS]
00:16:50
◼
►
was used quite a bit this time I thought
[TS]
00:16:53
◼
►
the way I just love the fact that it's
[TS]
00:16:54
◼
►
like what's going on it's like getting
[TS]
00:16:56
◼
►
some kind of message it's painful like I
[TS]
00:16:58
◼
►
either this or this beauty of in the
[TS]
00:17:01
◼
►
previous seasons when you actually
[TS]
00:17:02
◼
►
including this one when they had to use
[TS]
00:17:03
◼
►
a time when they call it say a look at
[TS]
00:17:07
◼
►
artists on the wrist thing it's a
[TS]
00:17:09
◼
►
teleportation the time vortex or you're
[TS]
00:17:11
◼
►
at a time or text me later or give or
[TS]
00:17:14
◼
►
take particular image and holes to use
[TS]
00:17:15
◼
►
it really it doesn't feel good to use
[TS]
00:17:18
◼
►
and love the fact that like there's
[TS]
00:17:19
◼
►
these things like it's hack together
[TS]
00:17:21
◼
►
technology or or it's painful to receive
[TS]
00:17:24
◼
►
the telepathic message from the TARDIS
[TS]
00:17:25
◼
►
not just like oh its ethereal wonderful
[TS]
00:17:28
◼
►
states like now okay
[TS]
00:17:30
◼
►
crimson 11 delight in the great words
[TS]
00:17:34
◼
►
that i can remember it must be a real
[TS]
00:17:35
◼
►
word because your game and used it and
[TS]
00:17:37
◼
►
it perhaps not
[TS]
00:17:38
◼
►
caracal parents file yeah I don't know
[TS]
00:17:40
◼
►
it wasn't
[TS]
00:17:42
◼
►
you know running around in quarters it's
[TS]
00:17:44
◼
►
doctor who write it was a little bit
[TS]
00:17:45
◼
►
silly but at the same time I like they
[TS]
00:17:47
◼
►
were in the TARDIS in there and and it's
[TS]
00:17:49
◼
►
you get the invoice very retro wouldn't
[TS]
00:17:51
◼
►
normally be you know quite that way but
[TS]
00:17:54
◼
►
because the house is running things he's
[TS]
00:17:56
◼
►
basically just making them run around
[TS]
00:17:57
◼
►
and entertain him but it was cool to see
[TS]
00:18:00
◼
►
them to told me this opportunity to say
[TS]
00:18:03
◼
►
menacingly Michael she missed
[TS]
00:18:04
◼
►
opportunity minutes with a and the house
[TS]
00:18:06
◼
►
always wins you know haha because it
[TS]
00:18:10
◼
►
always bet on black and yeah
[TS]
00:18:12
◼
►
Wesley Snipes with whatever lies gone
[TS]
00:18:17
◼
►
Scott great ways did I like it yes i did
[TS]
00:18:20
◼
►
i did have one problem with it will have
[TS]
00:18:22
◼
►
two problems with that both of which are
[TS]
00:18:24
◼
►
not important but I'll bring them up
[TS]
00:18:27
◼
►
because that's the kind of person I am I
[TS]
00:18:28
◼
►
so you know the doctor gets this message
[TS]
00:18:31
◼
►
in there like who we have to go outside
[TS]
00:18:33
◼
►
the universe at the doctors like I've
[TS]
00:18:34
◼
►
been outside the university everyone's
[TS]
00:18:35
◼
►
like oh how do we get 30 days ago it's
[TS]
00:18:37
◼
►
really hard at two seconds later that's
[TS]
00:18:38
◼
►
how do you reverse not so hard and the
[TS]
00:18:41
◼
►
other thing is that they bade this big
[TS]
00:18:44
◼
►
deal about the doctors like well I can
[TS]
00:18:45
◼
►
finally talk to the TARDIS and yet the
[TS]
00:18:48
◼
►
TARDIS can send telepathic messages to
[TS]
00:18:50
◼
►
Rory and how hard is it the computer in
[TS]
00:18:53
◼
►
Star Trek can talk
[TS]
00:18:54
◼
►
how hard is it to hook up something in
[TS]
00:18:56
◼
►
the TARDIS they can let the time I think
[TS]
00:18:57
◼
►
there was dialogue about the actual
[TS]
00:18:58
◼
►
being well yeah I mean they see I think
[TS]
00:19:02
◼
►
Amy said said you know you
[TS]
00:19:05
◼
►
why don't why doesn't the terms to talk
[TS]
00:19:06
◼
►
to you and there was an answer and it
[TS]
00:19:08
◼
►
was something like that all it did you
[TS]
00:19:09
◼
►
know it is its eternal and it just
[TS]
00:19:12
◼
►
doesn't work that way and it wouldn't
[TS]
00:19:14
◼
►
understand it doesn't mean it was it was
[TS]
00:19:16
◼
►
explaining it away but I appreciate that
[TS]
00:19:18
◼
►
they that they did it yesterday anything
[TS]
00:19:21
◼
►
then he tries to explain it and then
[TS]
00:19:22
◼
►
made clear get it says its basic ways
[TS]
00:19:24
◼
►
yeah I actually one of the things I
[TS]
00:19:26
◼
►
really like about the University of
[TS]
00:19:27
◼
►
having read as i mentioned on a recent
[TS]
00:19:29
◼
►
podcast i read these books you know why
[TS]
00:19:31
◼
►
Brian Greene about parallel universes
[TS]
00:19:34
◼
►
and about string theory and he tries
[TS]
00:19:38
◼
►
very hard to explain these incredibly
[TS]
00:19:39
◼
►
crazy complex in 11 dimensional
[TS]
00:19:42
◼
►
universes and curled-up dimensions by
[TS]
00:19:45
◼
►
using metaphors and and you get you to
[TS]
00:19:48
◼
►
get the distinct sense that that the
[TS]
00:19:50
◼
►
metaphor is not really right but it's
[TS]
00:19:52
◼
►
the clothes closest we can get for my
[TS]
00:19:54
◼
►
puny brain to comprehend
[TS]
00:19:55
◼
►
and so I love that in we've seen it
[TS]
00:19:58
◼
►
twice the cs and I think we're the
[TS]
00:19:59
◼
►
doctors not like that at all
[TS]
00:20:00
◼
►
he says if it helps then great but it's
[TS]
00:20:02
◼
►
really actually not like that wasn't
[TS]
00:20:04
◼
►
there is an XKCD strip like last week
[TS]
00:20:06
◼
►
that had the same joke about cavities
[TS]
00:20:09
◼
►
like a you know like a rubber sheet we
[TS]
00:20:10
◼
►
putting in what's pulling things down if
[TS]
00:20:12
◼
►
there's no gravity it's not like that at
[TS]
00:20:13
◼
►
all but here would understand otherwise
[TS]
00:20:15
◼
►
use your dimensional representation of a
[TS]
00:20:18
◼
►
three-dimensional universe just if you
[TS]
00:20:19
◼
►
know just go with it
[TS]
00:20:21
◼
►
I didn't think this was the most quantum
[TS]
00:20:23
◼
►
leap like episode in terms of
[TS]
00:20:25
◼
►
explanation where the TARDIS is like you
[TS]
00:20:27
◼
►
know she's like you never take me where
[TS]
00:20:29
◼
►
you don't take me we're trying to go and
[TS]
00:20:30
◼
►
take you where you need to be yes and
[TS]
00:20:33
◼
►
then I was like I was like you know we
[TS]
00:20:36
◼
►
can always stopping and never be able to
[TS]
00:20:38
◼
►
get home trying to make that last leap
[TS]
00:20:40
◼
►
home and I just had that sense of I
[TS]
00:20:42
◼
►
thought actually the modern series have
[TS]
00:20:44
◼
►
been a lot more like that where the
[TS]
00:20:46
◼
►
doctor sets out to go somewhere winds up
[TS]
00:20:49
◼
►
somewhere else or just find some other
[TS]
00:20:50
◼
►
animal serious was like that to mean
[TS]
00:20:52
◼
►
that was why that was such a beautiful
[TS]
00:20:54
◼
►
line is that it's always been the case
[TS]
00:20:55
◼
►
that that the doctor ends up right i
[TS]
00:20:58
◼
►
mean that's the premise of the show is
[TS]
00:20:59
◼
►
that hehe how does he go to be in all of
[TS]
00:21:01
◼
►
these places and and everything goes a
[TS]
00:21:03
◼
►
little wonky knee goes unexpected places
[TS]
00:21:05
◼
►
and the answer is that the TARDIS is
[TS]
00:21:07
◼
►
taking you out
[TS]
00:21:08
◼
►
I always felt that was the case right
[TS]
00:21:09
◼
►
that that if he goes where he's needed
[TS]
00:21:11
◼
►
and that's why he goes there but so
[TS]
00:21:14
◼
►
having her say no I take you where you
[TS]
00:21:16
◼
►
need to be it's just all those the
[TS]
00:21:17
◼
►
argument that because everything is
[TS]
00:21:19
◼
►
interconnected in tiny widely
[TS]
00:21:21
◼
►
wibbly-wobbly that that there could be
[TS]
00:21:24
◼
►
the notion that artist takes to where he
[TS]
00:21:26
◼
►
was because that's where already was
[TS]
00:21:28
◼
►
because he had to be there at that
[TS]
00:21:29
◼
►
particular time that he wasn't the
[TS]
00:21:31
◼
►
universe we've been destroyed or I want
[TS]
00:21:33
◼
►
you to explain that and by some i had
[TS]
00:21:34
◼
►
medical 11 or was it meant oh very well
[TS]
00:21:39
◼
►
I can't walking on your destinations
[TS]
00:21:41
◼
►
there are plenty of episodes in which he
[TS]
00:21:43
◼
►
actually goes somewhere and it happens
[TS]
00:21:45
◼
►
that when he's there something terrible
[TS]
00:21:46
◼
►
happens or he's the cause of it such as
[TS]
00:21:48
◼
►
midnight in the right tenant years right
[TS]
00:21:52
◼
►
but I'm you want me right it's like time
[TS]
00:21:54
◼
►
are there so that would so that he would
[TS]
00:21:55
◼
►
be able to do that i don't i'll also say
[TS]
00:21:58
◼
►
this to this remind anyone of the star
[TS]
00:21:59
◼
►
trek episode with the souring the milk
[TS]
00:22:01
◼
►
episode the no no well child every tiny
[TS]
00:22:06
◼
►
galaxy's child every time you touch me
[TS]
00:22:08
◼
►
your time you touch the ship you're
[TS]
00:22:10
◼
►
touching me because Leah Brahms is the
[TS]
00:22:12
◼
►
holodeck of the which is actually the
[TS]
00:22:14
◼
►
enterprise computer while it was ya
[TS]
00:22:16
◼
►
later my only other episode the man i
[TS]
00:22:18
◼
►
really enjoyed that you know like what's
[TS]
00:22:21
◼
►
my name and so he's going there sexy to
[TS]
00:22:24
◼
►
you sweet i was I mean it's funny lot of
[TS]
00:22:29
◼
►
fun lots of funny stuff right i mean III
[TS]
00:22:31
◼
►
you know it's it could have been it
[TS]
00:22:34
◼
►
could've been dark I was actually
[TS]
00:22:35
◼
►
worried it would be scarier and it
[TS]
00:22:36
◼
►
wasn't a scary episode really my kids
[TS]
00:22:39
◼
►
weren't scared I mean it was it was
[TS]
00:22:41
◼
►
important that's atomized the your
[TS]
00:22:44
◼
►
breathing would yeah well where was he
[TS]
00:22:47
◼
►
he was standing over there oh well
[TS]
00:22:51
◼
►
or actually that that's a funny line or
[TS]
00:22:53
◼
►
distribute stay and stay out of the way
[TS]
00:22:55
◼
►
how we know where you're landing or I
[TS]
00:22:57
◼
►
don't know it's okay so no I mean lots
[TS]
00:23:02
◼
►
of funny stuff and obviously written by
[TS]
00:23:04
◼
►
somebody who loves the show and it was a
[TS]
00:23:06
◼
►
good episode I feel like like Dan
[TS]
00:23:08
◼
►
actually like on one level it's hard to
[TS]
00:23:11
◼
►
judge it having only seen at one time
[TS]
00:23:13
◼
►
because because the hype
[TS]
00:23:14
◼
►
it's very hard for me to calibrate sort
[TS]
00:23:16
◼
►
of where it really ranks because there
[TS]
00:23:19
◼
►
was so much hype going in and and
[TS]
00:23:21
◼
►
honestly watching it with my kids I
[TS]
00:23:23
◼
►
actually had a little bit of a sinking
[TS]
00:23:24
◼
►
feeling when i started to watch it
[TS]
00:23:26
◼
►
because I thought man you know how can
[TS]
00:23:28
◼
►
it live up to all of the hype here I
[TS]
00:23:30
◼
►
feel like I need to just kinda let it
[TS]
00:23:32
◼
►
wash over me and and not not get too
[TS]
00:23:35
◼
►
excited about it so I really don't know
[TS]
00:23:36
◼
►
how to ultimately judging other than to
[TS]
00:23:38
◼
►
say that I did like it i thought it was
[TS]
00:23:40
◼
►
well written it did feel a rush but so
[TS]
00:23:42
◼
►
many of the Moffett episodes especially
[TS]
00:23:44
◼
►
these last couple years have felt rushed
[TS]
00:23:47
◼
►
to felt totally insanely packed over
[TS]
00:23:50
◼
►
packed with stuff and yeah I wish this
[TS]
00:23:53
◼
►
was an hour-long episode because i think
[TS]
00:23:54
◼
►
that they could have used it but i do
[TS]
00:23:56
◼
►
think it was beautifully written in many
[TS]
00:23:59
◼
►
parts and and was well done i'm not sure
[TS]
00:24:01
◼
►
measures up to some of the best episodes
[TS]
00:24:03
◼
►
of the new rebooted doctor who though
[TS]
00:24:04
◼
►
including a bunch by steven moffat a few
[TS]
00:24:06
◼
►
by russell davis to it was never any
[TS]
00:24:08
◼
►
real sense of actual threat i mean i
[TS]
00:24:10
◼
►
think that's it is like the house was
[TS]
00:24:12
◼
►
ominous and it was evil and so forth but
[TS]
00:24:16
◼
►
you never felt there was any doctor
[TS]
00:24:18
◼
►
wasn't about to learn new truths about
[TS]
00:24:19
◼
►
himself percent
[TS]
00:24:21
◼
►
but he wasn't going to know one's got
[TS]
00:24:23
◼
►
everything yeah well nor were they nor
[TS]
00:24:25
◼
►
were they put in I mean except for
[TS]
00:24:26
◼
►
really want me an imaginary Rory torment
[TS]
00:24:29
◼
►
right but it was not like amy was Amy
[TS]
00:24:31
◼
►
and Rory and I believe we call it war
[TS]
00:24:33
◼
►
meant i'm going to go very quickly that
[TS]
00:24:37
◼
►
we don't we don't know about you now
[TS]
00:24:39
◼
►
sorry no the contract oh you call it
[TS]
00:24:42
◼
►
that no but you know it wasn't as if
[TS]
00:24:44
◼
►
they were they were tortured or
[TS]
00:24:45
◼
►
something like that they were sort of
[TS]
00:24:47
◼
►
scared a little bit and they have to run
[TS]
00:24:48
◼
►
around but that wasn't really the point
[TS]
00:24:50
◼
►
again it was perfect it was more of a
[TS]
00:24:52
◼
►
cardiovascular workout i like the idea
[TS]
00:24:54
◼
►
what's scary is the idea that some you
[TS]
00:24:56
◼
►
know another malevolent consciousness is
[TS]
00:24:58
◼
►
taken over the TARDIS and it's going to
[TS]
00:24:59
◼
►
fly around I mean that was that was
[TS]
00:25:01
◼
►
scary in the sense that you know it's
[TS]
00:25:04
◼
►
we've come to know and love the TARDIS
[TS]
00:25:05
◼
►
and now there's this bad guy inside her
[TS]
00:25:08
◼
►
that's nice but he's going to the
[TS]
00:25:10
◼
►
universe but there are no other time
[TS]
00:25:11
◼
►
lord so the house is going to die
[TS]
00:25:13
◼
►
well I think the doctors you'll figure
[TS]
00:25:15
◼
►
something we'll find something else to
[TS]
00:25:17
◼
►
eat you know he'll need a black hole
[TS]
00:25:18
◼
►
like something i don't know what the
[TS]
00:25:20
◼
►
next am I said that are suffering but he
[TS]
00:25:23
◼
►
will go to hand planet
[TS]
00:25:25
◼
►
yeah and where that that is pure roar
[TS]
00:25:30
◼
►
meant sorry also good i am your dad it's
[TS]
00:25:36
◼
►
not forget it don't matter it's got on
[TS]
00:25:38
◼
►
you got rolled mental and I hope now I
[TS]
00:25:42
◼
►
you know it's over time moving on this
[TS]
00:25:45
◼
►
podcast was really can't enter this
[TS]
00:25:47
◼
►
podcast so I rod is not add up
[TS]
00:25:50
◼
►
oh and we were left with a brief tidbit
[TS]
00:25:54
◼
►
relating presumably to the to the
[TS]
00:25:57
◼
►
overarching plot of the season in that
[TS]
00:26:00
◼
►
the TARDIS told Rory something before
[TS]
00:26:03
◼
►
she became the targets again about the
[TS]
00:26:06
◼
►
river in a forest I remember but
[TS]
00:26:08
◼
►
sometimes important i guess i would
[TS]
00:26:10
◼
►
appreciate away at it wasn't like the
[TS]
00:26:12
◼
►
only way out of the forest the only
[TS]
00:26:14
◼
►
water in the forest is the river the
[TS]
00:26:16
◼
►
river right out what it is concerning
[TS]
00:26:19
◼
►
tonight you know what that Holly you
[TS]
00:26:20
◼
►
don't know anybody know rivering be
[TS]
00:26:22
◼
►
ridiculous
[TS]
00:26:23
◼
►
the i'm waiting for the scene where mrs.
[TS]
00:26:26
◼
►
worry I'm still worried about is what
[TS]
00:26:28
◼
►
shut the hell up about the doctor time
[TS]
00:26:30
◼
►
we all know we got other things to deal
[TS]
00:26:32
◼
►
with you're going to
[TS]
00:26:33
◼
►
start every episode with her during the
[TS]
00:26:34
◼
►
Aurora's going to say you're still
[TS]
00:26:36
◼
►
thinking about it aren't you
[TS]
00:26:37
◼
►
well least they didn't end this episode
[TS]
00:26:38
◼
►
with the doctor flipping a switch and
[TS]
00:26:40
◼
►
check on her
[TS]
00:26:41
◼
►
alright so i was waiting for that to see
[TS]
00:26:43
◼
►
that is wreaking he's making quantum up
[TS]
00:26:46
◼
►
quantum bunk belts it's gonna it's all
[TS]
00:26:48
◼
►
and jump difficulty between one and two
[TS]
00:26:49
◼
►
bunk beds they're just gonna you're just
[TS]
00:26:51
◼
►
gonna go to the the next step which is
[TS]
00:26:53
◼
►
going to be flipping and going
[TS]
00:26:54
◼
►
boy-girl-boy-boy-girl-boy-girl i did
[TS]
00:26:58
◼
►
like the line about the bunk beds
[TS]
00:26:59
◼
►
it's cool to bed with the ladder how do
[TS]
00:27:01
◼
►
you put in that your room on kids are
[TS]
00:27:04
◼
►
awesome
[TS]
00:27:05
◼
►
my children will soon discover that
[TS]
00:27:07
◼
►
lucky if i give them a ladder
[TS]
00:27:11
◼
►
oh no so it so any other thoughts about
[TS]
00:27:15
◼
►
about the the what-is-it the doctor's
[TS]
00:27:17
◼
►
wife was fun and amusing which is kind
[TS]
00:27:20
◼
►
of nice
[TS]
00:27:22
◼
►
yeah it was i liked it to be I mean my
[TS]
00:27:23
◼
►
complaint about the pirate episode is
[TS]
00:27:25
◼
►
that they felt like they didn't have
[TS]
00:27:26
◼
►
enough material and I'd rather I'd
[TS]
00:27:28
◼
►
rather have overflowing with material
[TS]
00:27:31
◼
►
more material than you can do anything
[TS]
00:27:32
◼
►
with then than the other so you know it
[TS]
00:27:35
◼
►
as a standalone it was much work much
[TS]
00:27:39
◼
►
that's the only problem with the pirate
[TS]
00:27:41
◼
►
episode was that it was horrible
[TS]
00:27:42
◼
►
haha so 11 one little flaw fatal flaw
[TS]
00:27:46
◼
►
they could have just fixed it i mean if
[TS]
00:27:48
◼
►
they just tweaked it a little bit it
[TS]
00:27:50
◼
►
would have been horrible
[TS]
00:27:51
◼
►
yeah well let's not talk about that
[TS]
00:27:52
◼
►
people are angry at us for being so down
[TS]
00:27:55
◼
►
on that episode so it's all like
[TS]
00:27:58
◼
►
everything from now on I honest so I oh
[TS]
00:28:02
◼
►
I watched it on I rented it from itunes
[TS]
00:28:05
◼
►
so i want to i wonder if anyone else had
[TS]
00:28:06
◼
►
this problem where they were on the
[TS]
00:28:07
◼
►
makeshift TARDIS and I couldn't hear
[TS]
00:28:10
◼
►
anything that they were saying to each
[TS]
00:28:12
◼
►
other just my ok 10 years it was tough
[TS]
00:28:16
◼
►
because the general problems
[TS]
00:28:18
◼
►
yeah I think they just there's a bad mix
[TS]
00:28:19
◼
►
on the shade the problem is that i think
[TS]
00:28:21
◼
►
maybe part of it is because all of us
[TS]
00:28:23
◼
►
are Americans it's it's sometimes hard
[TS]
00:28:25
◼
►
to figure out what they're saying that's
[TS]
00:28:27
◼
►
uncle own rules a bit uncle was Welsh i
[TS]
00:28:29
◼
►
think i'm using a weird accent I think
[TS]
00:28:33
◼
►
was fascinating actually I think it's if
[TS]
00:28:35
◼
►
I discovered if I can't figure out in
[TS]
00:28:37
◼
►
the UK accent is its well we'll just
[TS]
00:28:40
◼
►
call it Welsh he said it just like
[TS]
00:28:42
◼
►
Catherine zeta-jones so have you ever
[TS]
00:28:44
◼
►
heard about Cheryl strangely
[TS]
00:28:46
◼
►
first-order have you ever heard her talk
[TS]
00:28:48
◼
►
when she wasn't character she talks yuge
[TS]
00:28:51
◼
►
it does not correspond it is making the
[TS]
00:28:53
◼
►
show they make the show in Wales so
[TS]
00:28:55
◼
►
that's not that's not surprising they
[TS]
00:28:57
◼
►
actually make a show in Catherine
[TS]
00:28:58
◼
►
zeta-jones oh she's making around the
[TS]
00:29:01
◼
►
inside optic oh my ok so next week we
[TS]
00:29:05
◼
►
have a two-parter by Matthew Graham who
[TS]
00:29:10
◼
►
was a writer for life on Mars and its
[TS]
00:29:14
◼
►
successor ashes to ashes
[TS]
00:29:16
◼
►
he also wrote david tennant episode that
[TS]
00:29:19
◼
►
was a low budget last minute fill-in
[TS]
00:29:20
◼
►
episode i believe called fear her which
[TS]
00:29:23
◼
►
was terrible i couldn't even watch them
[TS]
00:29:25
◼
►
when i started watching so bad I've
[TS]
00:29:27
◼
►
never is the only Doctor Who and the
[TS]
00:29:28
◼
►
miles you don't have watched that was
[TS]
00:29:30
◼
►
one of the kids drawing thing yeah we
[TS]
00:29:32
◼
►
will struggle but they didn't have the
[TS]
00:29:33
◼
►
money to like do the I think originally
[TS]
00:29:35
◼
►
they were gonna be like animated parts
[TS]
00:29:37
◼
►
where the doctor was in a kids drawing
[TS]
00:29:38
◼
►
and then they didn't have the money for
[TS]
00:29:40
◼
►
head so they just had like a shadow on a
[TS]
00:29:42
◼
►
wall and a picture of this carriage I
[TS]
00:29:44
◼
►
there's a bit more uses the one is
[TS]
00:29:46
◼
►
always uses a sonic screwdriver to knock
[TS]
00:29:48
◼
►
a piece of drawing out of the air it was
[TS]
00:29:51
◼
►
just lie here s if he does the Olympic
[TS]
00:29:53
◼
►
torch in the london 2012 olympics in
[TS]
00:29:55
◼
►
that episode that episode but you know
[TS]
00:29:57
◼
►
but life on Mars was good so I you know
[TS]
00:29:59
◼
►
did I like ashes ashes as a guy i watch
[TS]
00:30:02
◼
►
the entire series those good performance
[TS]
00:30:04
◼
►
in the first couple of that but so so
[TS]
00:30:05
◼
►
he's got you know he's he's got a
[TS]
00:30:07
◼
►
special i think i think it's worth not
[TS]
00:30:09
◼
►
blaming him for fear her
[TS]
00:30:11
◼
►
everybody's got a bad episode and I'm
[TS]
00:30:12
◼
►
but a two-part episode i am looking
[TS]
00:30:16
◼
►
forward to it actually I think I think
[TS]
00:30:18
◼
►
it sounds from what I've heard is creepy
[TS]
00:30:20
◼
►
it's kind of dark and creepy and it said
[TS]
00:30:22
◼
►
I think in the near future and so it's
[TS]
00:30:25
◼
►
yeah it's i'm looking forward to it so I
[TS]
00:30:28
◼
►
guess we'll be back in two weeks then to
[TS]
00:30:30
◼
►
talk about the the two-parter as a whole
[TS]
00:30:32
◼
►
rather talk about how worried eyes maybe
[TS]
00:30:35
◼
►
I'll twice twice actually but I believe
[TS]
00:30:38
◼
►
this episode is is about it i don't
[TS]
00:30:40
◼
►
think this is a spoiler it's it's called
[TS]
00:30:42
◼
►
it called it the red flash I think right
[TS]
00:30:45
◼
►
i think that i think there's like the
[TS]
00:30:47
◼
►
idea here is that there's like cloning
[TS]
00:30:48
◼
►
involved so if we're very very lucky
[TS]
00:30:50
◼
►
the clone war ii and killing them twice
[TS]
00:30:52
◼
►
or like seven or eight times because why
[TS]
00:30:55
◼
►
not why not
[TS]
00:30:56
◼
►
it's like I mean buying in bulk yeah
[TS]
00:30:58
◼
►
guess I got extra six
[TS]
00:31:00
◼
►
back of robberies at costco I was just
[TS]
00:31:02
◼
►
at costco or you picked up a 12 pack of
[TS]
00:31:04
◼
►
Rory's you get a palette and I'm still
[TS]
00:31:07
◼
►
i'm still holding out for the return of
[TS]
00:31:08
◼
►
bird Cribbins though I know now it's a
[TS]
00:31:11
◼
►
party that's impossible universally
[TS]
00:31:12
◼
►
episode when I just I want him back i
[TS]
00:31:14
◼
►
miss them i will be returning
[TS]
00:31:16
◼
►
that's right said fred on that note i am
[TS]
00:31:21
◼
►
going to wrap it up for this flash
[TS]
00:31:24
◼
►
incomparable episode we'll have a
[TS]
00:31:25
◼
►
regular episode in the next day or so
[TS]
00:31:27
◼
►
but thank you for listening to our
[TS]
00:31:29
◼
►
doctor who recaps will be back in two
[TS]
00:31:31
◼
►
weeks and thank you for recapping and
[TS]
00:31:34
◼
►
reviewing the doctor's wife by Neil
[TS]
00:31:37
◼
►
Gaiman thank you Scott McNulty those
[TS]
00:31:40
◼
►
like youjizz Thank You Glenn fleischmann
[TS]
00:31:42
◼
►
thank you and thank you very much mr.
[TS]
00:31:45
◼
►
dan more it's always a pleasure until
[TS]
00:31:49
◼
►
next time when worried eyes again but
[TS]
00:31:52
◼
►
how this is jason l for the incumbent
[TS]
00:31:55
◼
►
thankful
[TS]
00:31:56
◼
►
[Music]
[TS]