The Incomparable

00:00:00 ◼   ► the incontrovertible number 302 may 2016 [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► 13 get ready to the uncomfortable and [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► jason l and it is time for another [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► edition of old movie club club in this [TS]

00:00:19 ◼   ► edition we are going to be talking about [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► two movies produced by and otherwise [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► creatively involved by Howard Hawks [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► possibly directed or did he or didn't he [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► yes [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► his girl friday from nineteen forty [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► which he absolutely directed and the [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► thing from another world from 1951 which [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► literally directed he's not credited as [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► directing joining me to talk about the [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► many movies [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► yeah well there's only the two that [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► we're going to talk about tonight [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► are these lovely people Steve let's [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► hello hello Jason come on in [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► close the door FairPoint Monty Ashley hi [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► Monty hi Jason you know all you gotta do [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► is lie low and keep your mouth shut [TS]

00:00:59 ◼   ► wise words David jail or hi [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► what do you mean my name is Debbie I'm [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► just going to talk this fast for the [TS]

00:01:04 ◼   ► whole show [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► oh yeah i got that news for you [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► diabeetus Z that's what we get for [TS]

00:01:13 ◼   ► having guests with the disease [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► Erica and sign but I I'm glad to be here [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► because even 10 minutes is a long time [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► to be away from you guys are the [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► internets doctored ring is back with us [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► again for more old things [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► hi doc how's it going it's going fine [TS]

00:01:31 ◼   ► you know knowledge is more important [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► than life Jason we ought to the brain of [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► our species to stay here and die [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► Oh apply to any podcasts that's like the [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► mission statement of the show the [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► gentleman who makes this happen pics the [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► movies and tells us what to think and [TS]

00:01:48 ◼   ► then we savagely deny him and infuriate [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► him running the coffee it's a nasty day [TS]

00:01:53 ◼   ► it's phillip michael the big sleep well [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► Jason it was it's great to be here today [TS]

00:01:59 ◼   ► so Phil we we watch these two movies I [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► suppose we should take them [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► chronologically should we not can you [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► tell us why you chose them and hear [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► anything more about howard hawks and why [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► he is the unifying factor here [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► well you know I think Howard Hawks is a [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► Howard Hawks makes so many great movies [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► we could have picked any one of them [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► like the big sleep like gentlemen prefer [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► blondes is a very uh fun if in [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► substantial little musical [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► rio bravo Rio Bravo is about to say [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► there's a nice little Dutch late late [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► career John Wayne movie rio bravo that [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► he did and but I picked these two cuz [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► they're my two favorite Howard Hawks [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► movies although one of them make money [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► via Howard Hawks movie so here we are at [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► the very least it's produced by him [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► it says that much in the credits yeah [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► and it was made by his production [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► company is the in addition to him being [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► produced he didn't do it for a different [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► studio or a different outfit so it's [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► it's it's it's a Howard Hawks operation [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► just how much of it involves our docs [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► might be something we discuss later in [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► the little bit and are we certain that [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► letter the screenwriter is not in fact a [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► nom de plume of howard hawks know he's a [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► real person oh he took credit when he [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► was involved in this yeah yeah he said [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► he's a guy he writes a lot of howard [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► hawks and stuff but is not our Hawks i [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► have never seen him in the same room as [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► howard hawks at the same time when he [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► died before you were born so that's why [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► oh that may have something to do with it [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► they were buried together so what is the [TS]

00:03:24 ◼   ► hallway he did write a ridiculous number [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► of howard hawks film turns out they're [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► very together for that both of the ones [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► tonight yuh he adapted the MacArthur hex [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► play for for his gal Friday which leads [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► us into our first movie his girl Friday [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► Phil what what what did you tell us [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► about what you want to tell us about his [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► girl Friday [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► well it's one of those movies where [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► we're not going to spend a lot of time [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► discussing plot because it's really [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► incidental to anything hope that the [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► picture itself instead we'll do the [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► treacherous backstory of his gal Friday [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► which started life as a play called the [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► front page written by been hacked and [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► Charles MacArthur they were 2x Chicago [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► newspaper men and any influences that [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► their careers in chicago and corrupt [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► Chicago politicians might have had on [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► their play is purely coincidental [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► there was a movie I want to say was 1928 [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► but i might be off by a few years is [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► 3131 thank you David off mon true state [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► of ma gio and pat o'brien and in that [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► movie it's it's this exact same spot [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► only Walter burns as the editor is the [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► managing editor [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► the the tree of the paper and Hilde [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► Johnson is his mail Star reporter and [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► there are many origin stories help his [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► gal Friday came to be one is that Howard [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► Hawks was just going to remake the front [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► page [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► and while they were doing the readings [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► for he had one of business his female [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► assistants reading the healthy Johnson [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► part and and thought hey that sounds [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► pretty snappy when it's a when it's when [TS]

00:05:04 ◼   ► it's a lady doing the exchanges with [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► Walter birds the other story and both of [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► these are in IMDb trivia because it's [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► dueling possibly apocryphal trivia that [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► they had a dinner party and howard hawks [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► pulled out the front page script just to [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► show how tightly written in what a great [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► great piece of staging it was and had [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► one of his female guests read the Holy [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► Johnson part and then the light bulb [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► came over his head and he sits say and [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► then been half said hey why don't you of [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► redo my my thing as a with a woman in [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► the part it's the front page and it's [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► got a got a lady playing the Holy [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► Johnson part and Hildy is a reporter and [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► there's a there's a execution about to [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► go down [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► Earl Williams who may or may not be an [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► anarchist he's not and but he is crazy [TS]

00:05:51 ◼   ► ya fantasy crazy and uh the corrupt [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► mayor and sheriff are trying to get him [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► executed uh two before election day so [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► that they can win on auntie radical [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► fervor and Hildy and her paper are [TS]

00:06:06 ◼   ► trying to stay so lots of papers and be [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► free him one is a more important to them [TS]

00:06:15 ◼   ► than the other i'll leave it to your [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► imagination as to which Hildy is in fact [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► leaving the paper because she is going [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► to get married to a fella named Bruce [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► Baldwin who's played by ralph bellamy in [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► the ralph bellamy part as as the nice [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► handsome man who is always spurned it by [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► the end of the picture [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► spoiler alert because he's a giant drip [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► yeah you know he looks I don't like [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► ralph bellamy though [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► yeah that girl filmy guy yeah that's [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► been the movies consistent Bellamy role [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► i think i've ever seen anything in his [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► youth other than this so I'm unfamiliar [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► with his that is the prototypical [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► yeah yes the surprise Roosevelt yes [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► where he plays the eve basically the [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► other fella haha yeah he's in at least [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► one friend ginger film as the other [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► fella [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► yeah as the guy who is decent enough but [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► but he's no fred astaire he's no Cary [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► Grant he's a boring insurance salesman [TS]

00:07:10 ◼   ► in this who would like to sweep her away [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► to albany yes where they will live their [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► life out in albany don't sell him short [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► he makes five thousand dollars a year in [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► the insurance because they're going to [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► live with mother with mother [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► yeah just for the first year the one [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► complication in this which I which I had [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► failed to mention is that Walter burns [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► used to be married to Hilde Johnson in [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► this version it would have been the [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► strange in the earlier version of the [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► front because in this video was pre-code [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► yeah recode very precocious hit our but [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► yeah [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► in this version they used to be married [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► there now divorced on you get the [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► feeling that Walter burns would very [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► much like to have he'll be working now [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► either back to the paper or being [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► married to him and he's not quite sure [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► which but one or the other or both would [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► be fine are so during this the the this [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► movie takes place over the course of an [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► evening and it's Walter burns trying to [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► trick you d into either stain to write a [TS]

00:08:08 ◼   ► story about her Williams or a man marry [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► him instead of bruce and and that brings [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► us to the series of complications and [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► layer dialog that makes his gal Friday a [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► must-see motion pictures so this is a [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► movie about a whole bunch of really [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► awful people [TS]

00:08:25 ◼   ► yeah you have everyone in this movie is [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► pretty awful that includes the the cadre [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► of reporters at the courthouse you kind [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► of act as a degree courses and when cars [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► they are just terrible people who joke [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► about her Williams getting hung and and [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► Driver Williams uh pseudo girlfriend to [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► leap from a window [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► steal each other's stories without a [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► whisper of guilt [TS]

00:08:53 ◼   ► look up staircases up women's skirts [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► although one of my favorite exchanges is [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► when the one guy is a reading the [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► straight story into the phone to his [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► paper and the other guy is listening and [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► reading a totally different version of [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► the story of his video this happened [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► several times during the picture and and [TS]

00:09:11 ◼   ► it's funnier each time I love all of the [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► telephone choreography in those and in a [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► good like the stage version is literally [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► only in that room that's the set for the [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► show the movie is like seventy percent [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► of that room so it's a they didn't make [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► much many changes to and just all of [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► that is so beautifully staged and I you [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► know I love like 11 guys like hang on [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► goes to the next one [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► he's not here and just hangs up the [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► phone because it's someone else's phone [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► I'm little things like that it's just [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► delightful it is yeah this the scene [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► that I like the best that they were all [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► reporting different things towards the [TS]

00:09:48 ◼   ► end you've got you got what the first [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► guy saying you know he was found on he [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► was unconscious when they found him and [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► then you know pan over to the next guy [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► captured after a value of struggle [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► offered no resistance like just one [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► after the other after the other all [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► completely different [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► let's talk about the relationship [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► between Walter burns and Hilde Johnson [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► because I think that's interesting it's [TS]

00:10:08 ◼   ► really sick [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► it's it's horrifying he will do anything [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► to create impediments to her going on [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► that train to albany or perhaps the [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► later train to albany he he he does sets [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► uh Bruce the boring insurance salesman [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► up to be arrested times during multi I'm [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► mashing he is he is causing lots of [TS]

00:10:32 ◼   ► trouble his his reasons for wanting to [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► keep her are paper-thin at best but he [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► keeps on going with them the line that i [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► wrote down that i thought was funny is I [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► need you to cover this [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► there's nobody on the paper who can [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► write which I thought you're employing a [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► lot of people at that paper and none of [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► them can write but that's ok he really [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► just wants her to stay [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► you've been editor you've never felt [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► like that yeah [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► it's probably you gotta give it a better [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► reason than that like people can write [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► that they could write different things [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► like ladies like you to tell him to take [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► a vacation like what she knows he can [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► write so he needs to go on vacation so [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► that that I can have you do this story [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► so i was i was amused by that and the [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► fact that he just shameless he doesn't [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► care he's gonna do whatever you can to [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► prevent her from leaving and when she [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► catches him lying which he does several [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► times he just laughs because he has as [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► you say no shame [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► yeah when she realizes sweetie got [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► married four months ago and this is 1940 [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► so he couldn't have be having a baby [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► already up just got me and i love that [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► scene in particular because it shows [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► that Walter and Hildy are at the same [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► level [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► yes there's a bunch of Loony Tunes [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► cartoons where bugs and Daffy are [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► fighting over Elmer and Elmer isn't [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► really a character he's just a stooge or [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► Elmer's bug says go to that definitely [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► arrange that ralph bellamy roll Yeah [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► right and that's what the dinner scene [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► really reminds me of where you've got to [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► sharpies yeah and then Ralph going so he [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► didn't have twins and they're [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► particularly right after that that [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► contempt in cary grant face when he's [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► like do you really not know what's going [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► on here [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► oh you chump yeah they are they're all [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► pretty awful people but the thing that I [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► kind of appreciate I mean besides the [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► fact that that the two of them are [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► really are communicating on their own [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► level know in a way they sort of belong [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► together for for that reason but i like [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► that relationship wise Walter only ever [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► tries to persuade her and bamboozled her [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► he never you know he he knows her well [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► enough to know that sort of forcing her [TS]

00:12:41 ◼   ► in any way or doing anything directly [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► isn't going to work [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► Bruce the ralph bellamy he doesn't know [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► that so he by the end you know he tries [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► to to make her leave with him and then [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► when she won't he gets upset and [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► basically insults her and yeah she's [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► she's a terrible person for the way that [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► she has treated him but she's operating [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► on a completely different level and and [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► i like that that the Cary Grant's [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► character is is operating on the same [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► level as her and is not getting all [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► all up in her face and trying to make [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► her do something that she doesn't want [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► to do he's just trying to convince her [TS]

00:13:12 ◼   ► via ways that are reprehensible but he [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► knows are going to work because he knows [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► she's reprehensible to know and and I [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► wonder how much of that comes from [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► originating it's a story about two men [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► without any romantic involvement whereas [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► you know if this had been crafted from [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► the beginning as a romantic screwball [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► comedy maybe that would have been [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► different but that's what's cool about [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► it i think in that the scene where she [TS]

00:13:34 ◼   ► enters initially into the room I guess [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► the press room at the courthouse and [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► there's banter going back and forth and [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► it's very much like she's one of the [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► guys right i mean they're just they're [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► shooting is right back and forth and [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► it's i'm not sure how much of that is [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► just because it was originally written [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► for a man but it's great because it's [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► like well she's accepted as one of the [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► awful reporters here if you think it's [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► something she's just as terrible as they [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► are but it's cool i think that's that's [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► I think my favorite bit where you know i [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► love seeing Hildy you know just she's [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► disrespected sort of force of nature [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► it's just it's very cool it's very [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► unusual to sin in a movie of this [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► vintage yeah and a lot of that is [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► straight from the play you can start to [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► make the argument that there are some of [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► the the katherine hepburn screwball [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► comedies bringing up baby which is [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► another hour talk that the other had him [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► yeah where she she'ssort of she's just [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► as sharp as everyone else but I that [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► this one goes the full the full nine ten [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► yards with with just making her every [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► much an agent of her malevolence along [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► with everyone else that she bribes cops [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► she threatens people with the power of [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► the press right she plants ideas and [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► guy's head so they don't get executed [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► while she runs the guy down and tackles [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► yeah yes but attack that's the best the [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► big difference between this and bringing [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► a baby and Katharine Hepburn in that is [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► that she's also a very competent person [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► she knows what she's doing and she's [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► good at it was Katherine Hepburn and [TS]

00:15:06 ◼   ► bringing a baby is just kind of an [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► incompetent idiots who happens to get [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► into trouble and happens to save the day [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► I would say cary grant is an incompetent [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► it's in that movie as well [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► yeah he's like beyond reason why I do [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► not like it as much as his girl Friday [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► which i will just briefly say is my [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► favorite movie [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► all time okay yeah and I actually like [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► the idea that in addition to treating [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► Hildy as she's just she's just one of [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► the newspaper meant because that's what [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► she is [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► they don't rub our noses in the fact [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► that she's doing something different [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► from most women in the world it's just [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► sort of a fact of life [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► I mean they could treat her nicely and [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► also have a couple of scenes in there [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► making it really clear look at this [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► we've got a ladies doing something [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► different they never give us any of that [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► and i love the fact it's refreshing that [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► she's trying to escape this non feminine [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► lifestyle and give it a try being being [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► a a woman going home and raising kids [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► and stuff like that and they don't shame [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► her for that in any kind of overt way [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► they they just sort of tease her about [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► it in a good nature Josh and kind of a [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► way like oh you know I give it six [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► months you'll get bored at home which is [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► the same kind of teasing they would give [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► a man who decided to you know retire to [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► the country if he was a newspaper man [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► who is going to get bored retiring to [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► the country so it was ni I do suspect [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► that a lot of it is because the [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► character was transition from male to [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► female and they didn't add a bunch of [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► that in but they could have added a [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► bunch of that crap it and they didn't so [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► it's just it's so nice to be watching it [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► from this time in 2016 and recognizing [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► that the majority of the movies made in [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► 2016 don't treat women as well as [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► Russell gets treated in his girl Friday [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► if anything the other news been seem [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► jealous about the fact that they can't [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► they don't have that out [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► yeah they would love to be able to get [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► married get the hell out of there but [TS]

00:16:46 ◼   ► it's not an option for them although I [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► never I never believed that she the the [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► whole idea like well I'm gonna uh you're [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► a newspaper man i want to go somewhere [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► where I can be a woman she says and and [TS]

00:16:58 ◼   ► she's gonna go to the beach this morning [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► this boring guy and go to Albany I never [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► believe for a second that this is [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► something that she would legitimately [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► want to do and I realize this is a zany [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► comedy and all that but there is no way [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► that somebody is sharp as this woman is [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► would first much and is good at her job [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► would abandon it but certainly would [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► abandon it to go to Albany with this [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► drip it is that part of it i'm just like [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► come on how is this even [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► how do we get to this point i will tell [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► you as as a woman i will tell you how [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► that's possible [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► she just got back from like four weeks [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► in Bermuda she was relaxing she was in a [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► completely different place mentally she [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► probably [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► not wined and dined and was able to just [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► relax and decompress with this guy for a [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► while so so yeah she's thinking this is [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► wonderful this is what I want to do I [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► mean she is sooo she's back in the real [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► world for like a week I'm sure she would [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► change your mind but I do believe that [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► this character at that point at the [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► beginning of it had has made the [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► decision that yes this is something she [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► wants to try this is what last plot what [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► plot if you give you if you recall from [TS]

00:18:00 ◼   ► the opening scenes of the movie she [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► chides Walter for not opening the door [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► for her which he will do one time and [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► then the very next door there is [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► something for me it's just eat just [TS]

00:18:11 ◼   ► leaves you behind that walks through [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► deliberately very literally very [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► deliberately so I think it's important [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► that she she had those weeks in Bermuda [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► right after her divorce she spent the [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► whole time [TS]

00:18:21 ◼   ► fuming about this impossible idiot she [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► was married to [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► I'm not going back there I'm never going [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► back there [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► albany sounds great that Ralph Bellamy [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► is his rebound man yeah yeah totally [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► totally he is the classic rebound guy [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► he's calm he's mellow he's responsible [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► he's well he's one of the two classic [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► classic rebound guy types you it's [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► either the the two nice guy who's boring [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► or the super jerk and she was she was [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► married to the super that with the [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► rebound guy asking one of the biggest [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► changes that I see between this version [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► and the original front page of apart [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► obviously from the sex change of Hildy [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► is how Walter is almost as different as [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► healthy is in this in the in the regular [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► front-page Walter is absolutely [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► reprehensible he has he's not charming [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► he is you know he's an a-hole off is at [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► times just an awful person and Cary [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► Grant's an awful person but my God he's [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► amazingly charming I mean how can you [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► not love him Cary Grant I mean yeah it's [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► hard to make Cary Grant not lovable what [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► my wife my wife and I have a theory we [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► call it the Brad Pitt conundrum and it's [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► the it's the problem that of the [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► handsome man who is very good at comedy [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► but they but because he's so handsome to [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► keep making them do handsome man rolls [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► and the jon Hamm's John ham suffers from [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► this there there's a few other people [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► but I think Cary Grant is the [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► original Brad Pitt in the sense in that [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► he get got cast in all these movies and [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► he's fine and but the the really great [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► stuff that he does is this movie and [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► North by Northwest which in essence he's [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► he's doing a comic role there so it's a [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► comedy yeah yeah yeah and you you just [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► watch his stuff that the phone scene [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► where is remaking the front page and [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► it's just him scream unit Duffy who is [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► off-screen the entire time [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► nevermind the european war so the brake [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► cranks a little bit i have to admit that [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► i do find Walter so reprehensible that i [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► don't find him that charming i find the [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► charming this kind of clothing and [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► disturb him as much as I find Cary [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► Grant's timing and delivery perfect and [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► he's wonderful in this role the [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► character is just too awful for me [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► perfect yeah that's probably my single [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► my biggest complaint with this movie is [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► the comedy here is great and it's madcap [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► and it's hilarious and it would work so [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► much better if there was somebody here I [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► can hang onto as somebody that I didn't [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► want dead Earl Williams lower Williams [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► the murder of a black cop is the most [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► likable character in the film of their [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► therefore Cary Grant films from this [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► period that I love I just absolutely [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► love them but to varying degrees and i [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► have to say of the four i might like [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► this one the least mainly because it is [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► it is that reprehensible pneus it's I [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► you know I can't quite get past that [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► whereas you know in bringing a baby he's [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► a ditz but he's a sweet guy and he's a [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► total innocent or in topper he's not [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► exactly an innocent but he's not he's [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► not quite disillusions point in all of [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► his charm here is in the service of [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► getting his way exactly none of it's [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► just charm it's all that's tyrants of [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► the two flaws i find it [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► this is that's one of them and the other [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► is that as much as I love the fact that [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► they've done the gender swap and they've [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► thrown in this whole subplot it does [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► feel like two different movies at times [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► it's like well we're gonna have this and [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► we've taken away the the sort of serious [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► subplot going on in the front page and [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► the serious part was kind of good that [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► was kind of the sharp satire of it but [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► you know it's a great variation i love [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► as you know it's still one of my [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► favorite movies yeah i would say for [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► that era I something more like the awful [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► truth would probably my favorite because [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► that also has ralph bellamy as the other [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► guy as well and I what he does [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► yeah he's not so he's not so so [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► reprehensible in that one and he's yes [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► he's trying to undermine you know his [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► wife and ralph bellamy but it's it's [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► more charming it's more cute [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► see I prefer the smart conniving cary [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► grant this one and the philadelphia [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► story he knows what he's doing and I [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► like that a lot more than the manic cary [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► grant you get in Arsenic and Old Lace [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► baby or arsenic and old lace where my [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► fingers like that'll down I do i do love [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► my favorite way far matching bobby-soxer [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► yeah although holiday maybe my favorite [TS]

00:22:46 ◼   ► getting back to your talking about this [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► sort of serious side to this the satire [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► side I think my favorite scene in the [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► movie is probably just after they've [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► badgered poor Molly Molloy into tears [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► and he leads her out of the room and and [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► there's just a about yeah maybe 20 [TS]

00:23:02 ◼   ► seconds of silence where all the [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► reporters just feel absolutely awful for [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► what they've done and they know their [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► reprehensible people and they just they [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► look like they want to die and they're [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► at their poker game is clearly ruined [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► and it's just it's a wonderful dramatic [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► moment in the middle of this this comic [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► wackiness but it does you're right sort [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► of sticks out like a sore thumb for all [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► yeah we haven't really talked about it [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► but that's the one moment people are [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► talking a hundred miles an hour the [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► summer movie stops there's a moment of [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► human emotion [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► there's some breathing and then that its [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► back to going crazy right now and it's [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► so much more powerful because of that it [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► stands out very starkly mean it's after [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► she yells it's a Wonderbolt lightning no [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► come down and strike y'all dead and then [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► you know she's out of the room and then [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► whoa i love it the gentlemen of the [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► press [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► oh you're one to talk ility improvement [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► i like the in terms of the reality of [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► being in the news media I think the [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► story about the the fact that in their [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► previous marriage and also in the at the [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► very end when they're talking about [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► going to niagara falls and there's that [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► moment of like well but along the way [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► there's a story that that's not that far [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► off from the life with somebody you know [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► I mean yeah right you know that really [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► rang true to Melike but on the way we [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► have to do this other thing because [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► that's the the you end up going to wear [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► the news is and so that as ridiculous as [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► this story is in so many ways I i saw [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► that was like yeah actually that's [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► better right yeah I love it it's so [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► depressing there were healthy just [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► resignedly says okay well honeymoon in [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► albany like this more sin nature is once [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► again been tamed by this scumbag maybe [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► Bruce can cross on his spelling yeah [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► with Mama that they will get to Niagara [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► Falls they're just gonna have to stop [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► off and file a story they're not going [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► to do we're reporting and related to [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► Niagara Falls answer they'll get there [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► might be a tragedy there they do like [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► each other though there's a great scene [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► where she's gotten the story of where [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► the gun came from and even though [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► they're talking to each other on the [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► phone the way it shot they're both [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► leaning into the phone saying oh I gotta [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► pick Walter you're gonna love this [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► yeah yeah go on and I think the [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► characters really do genuinely love each [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► other do they love each other they love [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► their job because i'm i'm not certain [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► that so much affection for each other as [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► they love to be journalists you know [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► they love to dig dirt and love to have a [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► scoop [TS]

00:25:31 ◼   ► well and they're good at doing those [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► things together so I mean whether that [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► whether that parlays itself into actual [TS]

00:25:36 ◼   ► love or it's just simply the fact that [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► they work so well together as a team [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► professionally which I mean but [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► considering the way the movie starts and [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► ends I think that's probably the case [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► they are great together dynamite as a [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► couple on the paper but you know at home [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► she kind of wanted to be coddled a [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► little bit more and that never ever [TS]

00:25:53 ◼   ► happens so I think she's yeah but they [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► enjoy each other's company so much like [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► in that dinner scene at the beginning [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► there's a moment where he lights a [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► cigarette off her match [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► smirks at her about how cute is being [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► and she kinda gives them a look like [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► yeah all right you got that [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► yeah she thinks his jerkiness is [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► hilarious it's clear he's right maybe I [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► just feel Bellamy's pain too much are [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► the other guy but you got a little bit [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► Bellamy pain or sepia Bellamy I think [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► the funniest line in the whole nation [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► not writing class [TS]

00:26:27 ◼   ► my dad's you know and he is how he says [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► insurance is a good honest business like [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► wild times I changed so i was gonna I [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► was gonna say i'd like to talk about a [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► couple of the supporting characters here [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► yes three standout starting with Jean [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► Lockhart old movie club standby gealach [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► are ya soon as the judge in Miracle on [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► thirty-fourth Street yeah he's Peter be [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► Hartwell be for brains [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► there's a lot of Miracle on [TS]

00:26:57 ◼   ► thirty-fourth Street actors in this [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► movie is there are there are on and he [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► he's just fantastic as just this [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► yeah is that the hapless sheriff and he [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► is his outstanding speaking of us to [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► just getting bullied around by two [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► sharpies yeah yeah except he's getting [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► bullied around by everyone [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► how did he get to be Sheriff he was down [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► ticket because of the political machine [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► got him in there again one thing one [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► thing i love about him is there's the [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► scenes where Walter and he'll be [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► believed someone but then there's this [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► scene where the mayor and the sheriff [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► try to bully somebody else and even [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► though it's the softest dumbest guy in [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► the world and that we love to have [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► another great guy Billy Gilbert is the [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► name of that actors Pettibone the voice [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► of sneezy [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► yes there you go I knew anything voice [TS]

00:27:47 ◼   ► from somewhere [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► jiminy crickets also in this movie and [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► he's fantastic particularly when he's [TS]

00:27:52 ◼   ► drunk [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► yes I yeah watch this versus the of the [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► 1931 version the of the front page and [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► where where where [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► Pettibone comes in he's a different [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► character in that movie i think his name [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► is Pincus but he comes in and it is does [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► the drunk routine and it's it's it's not [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► as well timed as it is here and a lot of [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► that is really Billy Gilbert's reaction [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► like when he tries to show the mayor a [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► picture of his wife and he says she's a [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► very handsome woman just another night I [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► I that is so that puts me on the floor [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► each time there's a moment where the [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► where they're trying to bribe them they [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► say all you gotta do is lie low keep [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► your mouth shut [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► immediately says well I'm tired anyway [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► great and finally the life preserver I [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► needed is a DC [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► the guy who is unable to be later or [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► bribed into doing something horrible [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► well here's a decent guy who is bullied [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► and bribed into doing horrible things [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► John kalyan please Earl Williams and he [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► is magnificent [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► he's such a sad little man and he's been [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► another old movie clip movie too he was [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► them the Deputy Speaker I work in a [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► anatomy of a murder complain a lot of [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► sweet in a lot of traffic but ya know [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► Andy's berger and his burger in [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► Casablanca the guy who tries to talk [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► about how he had contact with the Victor [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► Laszlo what he was doing a Swedish [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► accent anatomy of a murder right yeah [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► yeah because it's it's a buckles that's [TS]

00:29:22 ◼   ► that's human anatomy of a murder is the [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► guy whose wife makes bad food my [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► favorite supporting role is the blonde [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► just because of the moment where Ralph [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► Bellamy is calling Hildy to say he got [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► arrested for mashing they call it [TS]

00:29:37 ◼   ► mashing he he says yes she's blonde and [TS]

00:29:42 ◼   ► looks over at her and she not like yeah [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► that's right i'm like not very long and [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► she know well by know i was born right [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► here in this country her know he does a [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► lot with her two minutes of screen time [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► yeah my favorite favorite bit of the [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► side characters is the sort of little [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► side joke that the sheriff has hired a [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► bunch of his family and his landlord and [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► stuff to try to clinical keep the order [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► after the hanging because you know the [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► Red Menace is such a such a big deal and [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► they are such bumbling fumbling and [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► competence that like a tier bomb goes [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► off in their midst and they have to be [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► hospitalized in like you get that in [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► into separate pieces because in the in [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► the beginning of the movie sort of hear [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► about that in the background with the [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► sheriff hiring all of his friends and [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► family and then later on you get the new [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► story about about that everybody that [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► got hurt and had to go to the hospital [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► was related to him is it one of his [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► relatives that shoots the scrub lady [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► oh yes all of his relatives she [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► described waiting there goes another [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► scrub ladylike they say with glee [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► so when Hildy's interviewing Earl [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► Williams is she genuinely trying to get [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► a story or she just buffalo wing him [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► into us story she can use I think she's [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► trying for a story but realize it's [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► pretty quick that this guy's got nothing [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► so then she's like okay [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► a plan B Buffalo I think she's doing the [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► journalism practice at the time which is [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► you kind of wrote the lead on the way to [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► the ballpark food she just she plants [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► that idea right in his head and he's [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► gonna go with it from there on out he's [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► very easily led fellow i'm not sure that [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► she knows that there's a difference to [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► her [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► yeah i mean i think that's the point is [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► that it's the same if it makes a good [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► story then it's right then and it's true [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► and that's okay because these folks bear [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► no resemblance to the men and women of [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► the press [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► yeah I was just gonna say that yeah such [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► a sarcastic opening screen just getting [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► ready just getting ready even though [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► they have that they have an FDR joke in [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► there though they have lots of jokes [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► they mentioned the european war [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► yeah they mentioned the restart now [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► that's a human interest story got to [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► keep that all there is right i mean i'm [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► interested in it I wouldn't know about [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► that rooster [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► yeah that it's weird there's a lot of [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► ad-libbing but there's it's also really [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► rigorously time to movie like yeah [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► newspaper men can't be at living because [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► they have to be hitting their lines [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► staccato great it's mostly i think [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► between wrestling and grant allegedly [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► Roz Russell came on set and didn't [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► really get along with Howard Hawks and [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► sort of felt overmatched so she hired [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► their own writer in essence to kinda [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► punch up your dialogue has supposedly [TS]

00:32:18 ◼   ► cary grant came on set every day and [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► said so what you got the day there are a [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► couple lines where that stands out the 1 [TS]

00:32:25 ◼   ► i'm convinced she had lived because they [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► cut right after it is when Kari grant [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► says I'm as good as I ever was just kind [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► of mumbles well there's never anything [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► to brag about anything they cut and then [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► go back to at slightly different angle [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► and Cary Grant is still laughing yes and [TS]

00:32:42 ◼   ► as the ralph bellamy jokes that cary [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► grant makes was an admin area very [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► clearly that and the Archie leach [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► largely to the be at Alaska crossed him [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► was Archie leach that's a good that was [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► good of course Cary Cary Grant had the [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► fact that way that will be it's baffling [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► who let them make this it's very meta [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► what were they thinking well there's the [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► condom joke yeah right yeah [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► I'm surprised the Hays office let them [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► get away with things like well we could [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► have gone to jail for that to you know [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► they might not have noticed you see some [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► of that stuff though in movies of that [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► time but i do think the rubber joke [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► yeah I think that went right over the [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► heads of the AG's office they didn't [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► understand that at all [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► uh it was it was just a little bit too [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► early like that's a joke they could not [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► have gotten away with after the war I [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► think i mighta gotten over my head which [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► joke are we talking about here [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► he's it's it's in one of my favorite [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► scenes where Carrie Grand Rounds Russell [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► have gone out of Cary Grant's office [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► they're going back into the waiting room [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► and he he starts talking to the old man [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► as if he's Bruce right and then you know [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► and then basically insults and you don't [TS]

00:33:48 ◼   ► stay out of my business [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► uh I'll thank you to you know keep your [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► nose out of my affairs after he's [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► harassing the guy for a while but then [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► he shakes shakes ralph bellamy sunbrella [TS]

00:34:00 ◼   ► instead of his hand first and then shake [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► his hand and there's some awkwardness [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► between the two of them and you know do [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► you always carry an umbrella well it was [TS]

00:34:08 ◼   ► like smiling today and 0 and and you [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► have rubbers two and one of my favorite [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► thing can see is there's no answer to [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► that it's I don't know whether this is [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► Bellamy doing this it's written this way [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► or it's staged by hawks but the answer [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► is just ralph bellamy you lifting his [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► foot and kind of looking down as his [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► answer to that which is spectacular and [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► uh and then Kari grant williams it's [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► good that you're always prepared and [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► instigate it works as it works as a joke [TS]

00:34:42 ◼   ► at the at the level that the sensors [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► obviously thought it was that use this [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► dull guy who wears overshoes all the [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► time whenever he thinks it's raining but [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► then it also works as a snide comment by [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► walter to the sky that he'll be [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► obviously knows about but that but that [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► Bruce doesn't it's it's a it's a great [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► scene and it works it [TS]

00:35:02 ◼   ► the jokes are stacked on top of one [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► another in that scene i love them [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► that's Walter at full power a moment ago [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► he was depressed he's okay well I guess [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► you're going to leave but then as soon [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► as hilde says go roust right outside [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► Walter snaps right back into oh he's [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► right outside is a well let's get this [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► going [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► I assume that depression was an act to [TS]

00:35:22 ◼   ► not sure was [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► now they are there are some moments you [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► get a glimpse of the real walter birds [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► for a for a brief moment it's nice to be [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► able to snap so quickly back and forth [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► between the two is because he's a [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► sociopath that's exactly why we can [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► assume that he's being truthful when [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► he's acting like this down and depressed [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► and I was and what I will say this i [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► have a long list of notes from this [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► movie it's all just jokes i like and [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► it's like two-thirds of the movie he may [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► be awful but he comes by it naturally [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► his grandfather was a snake I still [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► claim I was tight when I proposed to you [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► i would like to submit the entire script [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► yeah so I naturally assumed that rubbers [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► thing was a condom joke but then I [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► figured that they probably are doing a [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► condom joke there that's probably on the [TS]

00:36:03 ◼   ► level nobody kno know when I'm not about [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► watching ID each time is that I always [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► pick up more of the dialogue that's just [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► thrown in there is is as background [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► noise because it is this moment where [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► he'll be is walking through the newsroom [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► after being away in in Bermuda and some [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► and one of the other Reporter says [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► you're my cat just a friends again and [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► Hilda says without breaking stride well [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► it's your own fault road it's all her [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► fault [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► yes yes yeah yeah yeah that's the thing [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► i love about a lot of hawks films is the [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► crosstalk I mean people talk about that [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► with like Robert Altman but I mean this [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► is where you see it really starting and [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► they're just wonderful throw away things [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► just passed back and forth in the [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► background and underneath each other my [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► first note is what are these actors [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► being paid by the word slow down [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► yes they are because it's it's it's [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► almost too rapid fire i feel like you [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► know that the crosstalk is great but i [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► feel like i don't know i don't really [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► like having to go back every 20 minutes [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► or every 20 seconds to check and see [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► what was said in the maybe it's just the [TS]

00:37:09 ◼   ► completest in me but the nice thing [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► about it is that the important details [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► filter out the things you need to hear [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► you will hear there's other stuff there [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► 24 when you watch it i mean they had [TS]

00:37:21 ◼   ► they had they didn't have any way of [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► doing this very technically so they [TS]

00:37:26 ◼   ► actually had sound guys turning the [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► microphones up and down all over the [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► stage in every scene so that like we'd [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► make [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► sure you'll hear this mean you won't [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► hear them talking in the background but [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► you'll see them talking you wonder what [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► they're saying because it's probably [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► just as funny and I think part of the [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► reason that crosstalk works in this [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► movie is because of its almost the exact [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► opposite of what television became in [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► the fifties and sixties television was a [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► completely disposable medium people were [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► expected to watch something once and [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► then they literally threw it away or [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► taped over it [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► whereas with movies where people were [TS]

00:37:59 ◼   ► often expected to go to the movies again [TS]

00:38:01 ◼   ► and again and and maybe see the same [TS]

00:38:03 ◼   ► picture again and again because if you [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► live in a small town in the Midwest you [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► have one movie theater it's showing 1 [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► movie for a week or two or more and [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► people would go again and again [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► so Howard Hawks movie like this where [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► there's so many layers of dialogue [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► actually you know brought in extra [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► repeat viewing because people would want [TS]

00:38:20 ◼   ► to go back and catch the things that [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► they missed the first or second or third [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► or fourth time [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► that's right yeah I do think you have to [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► you have to watch this movie you have to [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► let it flow over you and then don't keep [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► going back to me anyway the right way to [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► watch this is is to just let it all [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► because that's where all the time comes [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► from that's that's what you get swept [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► along with it just like just like the [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► characters in the movie are and you know [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► you pick up the other things you know [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► the fifth or sixth time you launch it [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► why did eventually resist the urge and [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► stop doing that which i wish i was doing [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► for maybe the first 10 minutes or so but [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► I was worried the whole time that I was [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► I was missing key elements as as that [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► was going on and kind of a kind of [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► nibbled at me the whole time I was [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► watching the movie but i did eventually [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► get over it its way my wife can't stand [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► watching mystery science theater because [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► she actually wants to pay attention to [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► the story and like no that's not [TS]

00:39:08 ◼   ► oh no oh no that's rookie mistake [TS]

00:39:12 ◼   ► there's another Howard Hawks will be [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► called ceiling 0 from four years earlier [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► in 1936 it stars James Cagney and when [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► you let kagney loose on this he is going [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► so much faster than the people in this [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► movie there's less crosstalk but i can't [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► follow that movie at all [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► no he hits a mile a minute it's like the [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► Federal Express ads from the eighties [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► like that guy's got anything [TS]

00:39:38 ◼   ► ultimately that's why it's good that [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► there's not a whole heck of a lot of [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► plot here because eventually i settle [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► down and realized well I'm not missing [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► anything because [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► there's not really anything going on [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► here except people walking back and [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► forth taking shots at each other so yeah [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► it's all good [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► yeah i mean it has the barest bones of [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► the original plays plot which is it's [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► it's a little more pointed a little more [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► satirical because it's it's not about [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► just the Red Menace it's about the the [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► guy who shot a black policeman and the [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► mayor and the sheriff want to make sure [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► he hangs so that they can get the the [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► all the black votes in town because [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► that'll put them over the top and that's [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► just gone and most of the movie versions [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► it's mentioned in passing here but yeah [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► yeah yeah it really focus on which is [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► probably good because then he'll he [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► comes in and and plants that idea in his [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► head to get them saved one of the [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► uncomfortable parts of the movie [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► actually [TS]

00:40:31 ◼   ► alright so let's fill let's move ahead [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► 11 years [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► yes why would Benny from another world [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► so I'm that this movie is and I'm gonna [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► mispronounce his name but he's no longer [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► with us so he's not gonna frightening [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► greenmail Christian and 99 maybe 90 [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► Christian I be directed this will be [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► like tobe hooper directed poltergeist [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► yeah well yeah so that there you go [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► anyhow he was a very accomplished editor [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► and he did become a very accomplished TV [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► director christian 90 um I think this [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► was his first feature and yes it was for [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► on Howard Hawks is very own production [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► company are many people believe that [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► Howard Hawks didn't several of the [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► actors who appear in the movie have so [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► much as said yes our talks direct this [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► movie [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► there are three competing theories here [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► on either that I know Christian maybe [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► did directed and howard hawks was just a [TS]

00:41:29 ◼   ► very hands-on producer and how could [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► work with how can you work with Howard [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► Hawks all those years and not learn a [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► trick or two from our talks [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► theory number two is Howard Hawks [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► totally direct the whole thing was kind [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► of embarrassed to be directing sci-fi [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► which at the time was not very very [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► well-regarded genre and [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► and they put your name on this movie [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► friend and and it also i think god [TS]

00:41:53 ◼   ► Christian IV into the directory skilled [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► by being on this movie so that's theory [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► number two and three number three is [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► that first-time director kinda and over [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► his head Howard Hawks stepped in and [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► sort of landed the plane as it were so [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► but clearly if he didn't direct the [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► movie howard hawks his influence is felt [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► from being the overlapping dialogue from [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► the pacing and plot to the fact that [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► just the way the characters interact is [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► just it's basically his gal Friday in [TS]

00:42:25 ◼   ► and in in the Arctic the poker scene [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► sounds just like the poker scene in his [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► girl Friday right you know he didn't he [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► learn that's kind of sort of at the feet [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► of howard hawks i meanwhat yeah yeah it [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► was a longtime collaborator enough you [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► know he worshipped talks and it was like [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► that was his idol as a director so of [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► course he's gonna have learned some [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► tricks and trade and I think they were [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► contemporary interviews as well where he [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► said effectively that you know sure i'm [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► gonna take advice from the mastery and [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► oh yeah it's like I said if he's on the [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► set [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► ask him a question whoever directed the [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► movie it's a very enjoyable movie i [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► think as you may well know Jason I'm not [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► a big fan of silly sci-fi for the kids [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► yes i am more of that before or horror [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► and this is a this is a horror genre as [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► well the story the story here is that is [TS]

00:43:16 ◼   ► that the john w cables a short story [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► who goes there was adapted into this it [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► was later adapted into the thing by John [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► Carpenter and the remake of that that [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► was recently released its adapted here [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► with much more Liberty taken to the [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► story the the story that you may know [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► from the carpenter where it's a [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► shape-changing alien that they don't [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► know who is the alien is actually much [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► more of what was in the original 1938 [TS]

00:43:43 ◼   ► story by john campbell then this where [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► it's been simplified to where he's [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► basically a a Frankenstein yeah a [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► radioactive carrot yeah radioactive yeah [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► but edible Frankenstein yaks if you look [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► at him and he's a Frankenstein that's [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► what he always a Frankenstein he's just [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► a big monster that goes around [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► and that and that's it for radioactive [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► carrot he looks very humanoid he does [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► the one time he moves at all quickly it [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► well two times one time when he jumped [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► out a window and the other time when [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► somebody throws a crowbar and many as [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► two hop sideways [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► yes because that's how together with our [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► I platform yeah yeah he's taken on the [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► crowbar unsung hero and I and i will say [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► i haven't seen that John Carpenter movie [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► i do that this is one of the rare movies [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► were the remake works for me just as [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► well as the original or I i find both [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► movies enjoyable in their own right [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► yeah this one this one is I prefer this [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► one because this is more my style but [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► yeah you like I do like the John carpet [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► it's very much like his girl Friday [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► you're right in a lot of ways because [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► you got the dialogue you gotta do you [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► have a news man here who's doing is that [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► it's amazing the access that the press [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► has to the city is about friday in that [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► is ninety-nine percent yappin [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► yeah yeah there's a newsman goes [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► everywhere which is kind of what i don't [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► understand that because we've been added [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► jason he's into that is going anywhere [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► they take a lot of guff from him too [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► he's there to be sarcastic because the [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► military guys can't they're too [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► regimented and the scientists are above [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► it because they're to be the sarcastic [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► voice of reason and irritation he's [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► there to show that there's somebody in [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► the world that doesn't have a square [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► draw in the climactic scene though they [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► do give him a cleaver to go against the [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► the monster one with everybody else with [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► axes which is a funny chopped vegetables [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► with Jason that's right now yes that's [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► not really a clear how to sleep or no I [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► would use a larger not but anyway so I [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► should probably read recount the plot [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► just a little bit so there's a lot of [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► you havin such a thing like that one [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► world there's a crowbar there's a plane [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► the lands on skis that's really cool [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► yeah that is but it's not let those [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► things with 6 lights in the cockpit like [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► that sled dogs who aren't bothered by [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► explosions [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► yep there's a mad scientist at the North [TS]

00:45:58 ◼   ► Pole who is studying something perhaps [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► vegetables than unusual uh an unusual [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► aircraft decided and they go they are [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► friends who are in the Army it in [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► Anchorage are flown up to the the mad [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► scientist location and they [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► go and try to find where the crash site [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► is and there's the sight of what might [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► be a meteor or something like that it's [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► melted and refrozen the ice and checks [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► out so far [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► yeah very exciting scene i was really [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► impressed by some of the snow shots in [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► this movie we actually see a plane land [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► on the snow and they get out and that [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► they go to the over to the melted area [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► and there's a kind of an eerie scene [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► where they all are supposed to they see [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► that there's a craft down in the ice and [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► they and they all kind of the trace it [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► out to see what what size and shape it [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► is and it's perfectly round like it's a [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► flying saucer which actually really like [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► that scene i love that you too but but [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► that scene is the where I took the the [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► single note that i took on this film I [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► had never seen it before so i decided i [TS]

00:46:57 ◼   ► was going to sit back and actually watch [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► it and enjoy the film and not take notes [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► on it but the one thing i had to write [TS]

00:47:02 ◼   ► down was like I grew up in wisconsin i [TS]

00:47:04 ◼   ► live in canada you cannot see through [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► ice like that you can't see details well [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► the idea what they said was that it [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► melted and refroze and that's why it was [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► clear is that it would be skew it was [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► like flash my come on here and we're [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► being in winning over the time they were [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► walking around they were scuffing it up [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► it there's no it's very size they could [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► it was based off it helps it was filmed [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► in the San Fernando Valley apparently [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► was 90 degree yes [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► so here is the thing what then happens [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► that is that shows you that the army [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► doesn't know what it's doing [TS]

00:47:33 ◼   ► they want to figure out how to get the [TS]

00:47:35 ◼   ► ale crashed alien spaceship out of the [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► ice so what do they do they stick [TS]

00:47:39 ◼   ► thermite on it and blow it up [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► standard operating procedure no [TS]

00:47:44 ◼   ► absolution [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► this is America when do well it's the [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► North Pole but anyway uh but but but [TS]

00:47:50 ◼   ► they do find that there's a body in the [TS]

00:47:52 ◼   ► ice at which point one of the army guys [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► suggest that they also blow it up but [TS]

00:47:57 ◼   ► instead they use access to chop it out [TS]

00:47:58 ◼   ► in put it on a dog sled and take it back [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► to the base isn't it the newsman who has [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► just gotten through berating them [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► horribly for holy actor spaceship which [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► says you should use some thermite [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► business yeah yeah he wanted more i'm [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► taking notes and less time complaining [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► about how they do things hell up there [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► to open his head man [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► well he's a professional newsman he [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► picks up a natural accent pitches in tho [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► give him credit [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► well cleaver cleaver yeah so anyway they [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► take it back to the base where a dummy [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► puts an electric blanket on it [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► no I want it done because go ahead go [TS]

00:48:33 ◼   ► ahead let me money at a point of order [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► yeah-huh that the electric blanket is [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► originally there because the one they [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► broke a window in this small house that [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► they're storing them in so that the guy [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► doesn't melt and yes and so that they [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► can prove preserve the ice block and the [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► elected MP 2478 likewise quivering [TS]

00:48:55 ◼   ► lieutenant McPherson yeah Wally while he [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► sits there complaining having kittens i [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► believe is the freezers you but instead [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► of the dummy was gonna let your inner [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► comes in and go to my placement throws [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► it over there [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► yeah it's stupid corporal Barnes puts [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► the blanket he thinks it's just a [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► blanket in his defense and he does not [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► know it's an electric blanket another [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► beautiful shot i love he puts the [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► blanket on it and just in case you [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► haven't determined that it's the blanket [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► it's very trouble with your camera [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► reason that it's not record all the way [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► and does the dissolved shot the dripping [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► yeah and so that you in the audience [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► will go oh no I am shocked that there [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► were little buzzing buzzing our bolts by [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► the but at the at the socket showing us [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► that it was charged this is happening is [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► really nice i neglected to mention that [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► there's also a captain in the Army who [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► comes in his girlfriend I guess is the [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► assistant to the mad scientist at the [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► polls we not only have a history [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► yeah they had they had one wild night [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► together they did one wild night in [TS]

00:50:02 ◼   ► Anchorage or where he began to resemble [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► something of an octopus but others five [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► minutes of kinky rope play in the middle [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► of this film which we don't see how that [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► evening began but he's tied to a chair [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► and she's pouring liquor to it [TS]

00:50:16 ◼   ► yeah yeah again you guys in this is [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► sending an awful lot like complaints and [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► I don't see I'm Kryon complaining this [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► is probably my only complaint is that we [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► don't see how she got him to do that [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► considering that he's why do I did offer [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► to bring a rope to offer dead [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► yes do that money i believe it went [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► something like this how about I tell you [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► up and give you licker okay [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► no don't throw me in that briar patch [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► the safety word is the [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► thing is attacking anyway the thing that [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► the alien melts and he attacks people [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► and he's like a big vegetable and he [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► goes outside and we learned from the [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► various science stuff is that he is not [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► he's made out of plant matter in that he [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► can read he can reproduce uh with just [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► with human blood [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► let's let me talk about the science for [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► a minute because we recently watched it [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► for rocket surgery a movie called gog [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► and many things in this movie reminded [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► me of Gog and that there are detailed [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► things about how science works the first [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► off are ridiculous in most cases and [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► second our way to details for it to be [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► necessary very much like dogs so we [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► learn about how their cameras work and [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► how they figure distance through a [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► through some explanations of exciting [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► science in the sound effect last science [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► lab of dr. Karrington at least the [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► character he was explaining that to was [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► like I didn't get anything that you just [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► said I was like all right [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► me either yeah he totally ignores it but [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► we all have to learn in any way I have [TS]

00:51:41 ◼   ► to step in here the most important thing [TS]

00:51:43 ◼   ► about that explanation is that it comes [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► from George Fenneman yes [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► Groucho sidekick on you better life like [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► that scene because it reminded me of old [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► science fiction where they like we just [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► invented radar it's amazing [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► we're gonna have to explain radar for 10 [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► minutes yes and then people will be [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► amazed well it's just like in God did [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► there's definitely some science and we [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► want to show it to you and explain how [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► the science works this is a seedpod it [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► works kind of like a seed pod let me [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► tell you about how plants work now the [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► alien works like that with blood uses [TS]

00:52:13 ◼   ► human blood grow [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► here's how we navigate without a compass [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► ok here's the explanation for how that [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► crash site is in a bottle shape [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► here's how you properly placed thermite [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► Bob's know but it's it's a science [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► procedural that's fun they were having [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► in the science in the science fiction of [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► the day it is true i will say it is a [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► dramatic contrast to God that a [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► misplaced tool actually saves the day [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► instead of getting a guy killed [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► so that's a yes yeah I cannot believe [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► you're comparing the thing to god no [TS]

00:52:43 ◼   ► robots in this no robots [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► I think my biggest problem with the [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► science was simply the the scientist was [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► did deducing all of these things about [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► the motivation of the creature and state [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► it so matter-of-factly immediately I [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► didn't know evidence for it whatsoever [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► the one that i wrote down what I doubt [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► that even can die and I'm like you just [TS]

00:53:01 ◼   ► saw how we have you decided that he says [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► it's vegetable life it developed without [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► emotions or sexual factors I'm like I [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► when did you figure that one out genius [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► same time he figured out how that's [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► wiser than all of us if anything that [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► entirely on the fact that it uses only [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► as food you know like those Paragons of [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► intellect bears and wolves [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► yeah it's a he's a he's a mad scientist [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► quality photos and hang from The [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► Simpsons did anything anyone who [TS]

00:53:29 ◼   ► invented a way to travel across galaxies [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► step forward right now so i give it to [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► plant died [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► yeah he's inventing the ship all the guy [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► with the flammable ship was he playing [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► guy is just very tired it's okay [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► intelligence yes wisdom [TS]

00:53:44 ◼   ► no those are two very different things [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► and being a scientist you think he would [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► be smart enough to know that hood it [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► doesn't get don't like it here we blow [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► up anything we see well there are no [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► real particular signs of intelligence [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► here either [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► he could also have been a prisoner from [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► the last place that the spaceship [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► stopped so you know I don't know you [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► don't know but this guy knows with mad [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► scientist knows and of course you that [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► he loves it and worships it and gets [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► them into trouble and have to knock him [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► out because he's gonna let it in and [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► feed it flooded I do i do there's an [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► amusing set of scenes where Anchorage [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► finally gets through to them and says [TS]

00:54:18 ◼   ► keep it alive if you can try to you guys [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► stay alive but keep it alive and every [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► time one of those orders comes in the [TS]

00:54:23 ◼   ► mad scientist is there to go haha take [TS]

00:54:26 ◼   ► told you the army knows what it's doing [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► listen to them i love the mad scientist [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► because first off they could not make [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► him look more Russian if they have [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► checked if they actually have to go you [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► know justjust stolen once said to me and [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► her and her doc out one day mom but I i [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► just i really enjoy the fact that in [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► this movie the scientists are the [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► batteries and it's the it's the stupid [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► army men that are the the good guys [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► because because that is such a contrast [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► to the to the syfy narrative that that I [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► grew up with ya right but they think [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► basically they just make it it's not [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► that he's a mad scientist he's just [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► really tired and at the very end there's [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► even a kind of a show of camaraderie [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► with the newsman instead of saying yeah [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► he got two injured trying to kill us all [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► he says he got injured in that dramatic [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► fight against the thing mom had the [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► courage of his convictions at least he [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► wasn't hiding [TS]

00:55:23 ◼   ► he went up to that thing tried reasoning [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► with its John always is [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► try reasoning with it that's the shot so [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► what we're seeing is he's the true [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► heroes picture i'm not i don't care that [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► much about the plot to be out with you [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► guys I just like the snappy better that [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► everybody's doing all of the time no [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► matter what happens [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► oh yeah they're about to die and they [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► are they're cracking wise i actually [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► enjoy the plot I'm I'm you know being an [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► old-school doctor who fan i'm kind of a [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► sucker for a base under siege story and [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► this is [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► oh yeah the classic president feels [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► thunderstorm yeah Erica you really need [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► to watch my dream Aug carpenter remake i [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► do it is it is on my list is one of [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► those things I've been meaning to see [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► forever and ever it just haven't gotten [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► around to it and now having seen this [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► you know my my curiosity is is even more [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► peaked in before so i will i will watch [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► that it's a lot better for reading the [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► original story first and then watch the [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► carpenter and see how they compare it is [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► kind of interesting i'll probably do [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► that in the other order but i will do it [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► you don't need the recent one [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► it's just a work i'm not interested in a [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► recent one now i will say this though [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► this movie has one of the two most [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► terrifying fire scenes I've ever seen [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► right now we're clearly they decided the [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► way we're going to shoot this is just [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► set everything in the room bout fire and [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► hope the actors somehow survived [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► yeah yet that scene i think is is [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► probably as good a chaotic action scene [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► as I have ever seen an old movie and it [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► beats a lot of recent action scenes I've [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► seen because the thing comes in the door [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► they douse it in kerosene the lights go [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► out and all the sudden just every damn [TS]

00:56:56 ◼   ► thing and equipment is on fire area just [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► craziness go and then enjoy the [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► precision work your choreograph it [TS]

00:57:03 ◼   ► without getting somebody killed because [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► there's people running to throw fire [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► with his R&B it is mothers are throwing [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► actual buckets of kerosene and my feet [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► and in supposedly according to IMDb [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► trivia so who knows that that scene is [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► believed to be the first full body burn [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► accomplished by [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► stuntman and that wasn't actually James [TS]

00:57:22 ◼   ► Arness in the soon I'll time it was a [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► stuntman so of the 30 seconds he's [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► on-screen fully twenty of them a [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► smothered I mean there are a lot of [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► people running around in that flaming [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► room and the fact that somebody isn't [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► horribly injured is kind of amazing a [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► second ago they were all worried about [TS]

00:57:38 ◼   ► safety [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► hey put out that cigarette good idea [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► yeah i mean it is under bedlam and then [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► they finally knocked the creature out [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► the window and the whole thing is over [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► in like 20 seconds but it's it's so well [TS]

00:57:49 ◼   ► done [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► it's probably the best scene yes so they [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► may be basically determined that the way [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► to kill the monster is with heat or fire [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► okay because that's what you do two [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► potatoes yeah vegetable just Rose Nylund [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► and of course it's the woman who comes [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► up with that which leads us to our denim [TS]

00:58:06 ◼   ► wall which is the they they rigged the [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► place for electricity to create an arc [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► of lights to to destroy the thing i like [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► that see Tyreke quite like them all [TS]

00:58:17 ◼   ► working together you know they had [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► people stationed in different places [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► they're talking to each other via the [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► radio they're using their using science [TS]

00:58:23 ◼   ► that they're not explaining to us quite [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► as much as some of the other science [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► which is nice that was probably yeah [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► together and as they're preparing it [TS]

00:58:30 ◼   ► that people are actually on the same [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► wavelength so a couple them like oh you [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► know we go [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► yes I'll get right I liked that team [TS]

00:58:36 ◼   ► teamwork thing there was really good it [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► has the best line of quickly dialogue in [TS]

00:58:40 ◼   ► the face of death I just had a thought [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► Oh lieutenant McPherson had a thought [TS]

00:58:44 ◼   ► know what if this thing can read minds [TS]

00:58:46 ◼   ► he's gonna he's gonna be really angry [TS]

00:58:48 ◼   ► when he gets to me know i really get [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► that like all of the banter in the halls [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► is there sort of waiting for ya [TS]

00:58:58 ◼   ► because it even feels like the realistic [TS]

00:59:00 ◼   ► chatter of guys who are on the verge of [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► of crapping their pants [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► yes it's just that is that is the best [TS]

00:59:05 ◼   ► thing in this movie is that though that [TS]