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00:00:07   the incomparable podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/7">TS</a>]

00:00:11   number 49 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/11">TS</a>]

00:00:15   August 2011 we're back on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/15">TS</a>]

00:00:19   incomparable podcast I am Jason Snelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/19">TS</a>]

00:00:22   your host and today we're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/22">TS</a>]

00:00:25   talking about pixar the movie studio [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/25">TS</a>]

00:00:29   that is now part of disney has made a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/29">TS</a>]

00:00:32   some fantastic animated features over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/32">TS</a>]

00:00:35   the years in fact some might say they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/35">TS</a>]

00:00:37   never made a bad feature and then some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39   of us haven't seen cars to yet so we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/39">TS</a>]

00:00:43   just don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/43">TS</a>]

00:00:44   joining me today to talk about pixar are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/44">TS</a>]

00:00:48   Steve let's hi Steve good day to user [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/48">TS</a>]

00:00:51   good day and John siracusa good evening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/51">TS</a>]

00:00:56   good evening John on your other other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/56">TS</a>]

00:01:01   podcast your personal podcast called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/61">TS</a>]

00:01:04   hypercritical i know there was a section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/64">TS</a>]

00:01:06   of that of a previous episode where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08   talked a little bit about about pixar so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/68">TS</a>]

00:01:11   in some ways we're just following up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13   from out there like the brother from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   another podcast here that doesn't rhyme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/75">TS</a>]

00:01:17   and it doesn't so seriously i talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/77">TS</a>]

00:01:20   about pixar sort of having this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/80">TS</a>]

00:01:22   legend of having never made a bad movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/82">TS</a>]

00:01:25   and I believe cars 2 is the lowest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/85">TS</a>]

00:01:27   scoring on the on the tomatometer at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/87">TS</a>]

00:01:31   last check i think it was a 30 / seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/91">TS</a>]

00:01:32   thirty-seven percent positive score [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/92">TS</a>]

00:01:35   which is pretty bad i haven't seen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/95">TS</a>]

00:01:37   that seems almost like backlash low to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   me i mean i have not seen cars to yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41   but my wife and kids went outside and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/101">TS</a>]

00:01:44   they all seem to enjoy it and am i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/104">TS</a>]

00:01:47   strong suspicion is that the reason that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/107">TS</a>]

00:01:48   they get down to 3735 on on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/108">TS</a>]

00:01:51   tomatometer is that critics have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/111">TS</a>]

00:01:53   sitting around just waiting for a lesson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55   subline pixar film finally they could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/115">TS</a>]

00:01:58   take a tragedy and the backlash begins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/118">TS</a>]

00:02:02   yes so grand form up until curse to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/122">TS</a>]

00:02:05   which is in which is in debate you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/125">TS</a>]

00:02:07   that that's the 12th feature by pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/127">TS</a>]

00:02:10   the first 11 almost universally liked so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/130">TS</a>]

00:02:15   I thought rather than taking a stroll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/135">TS</a>]

00:02:17   from from toy story in 1995 through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/137">TS</a>]

00:02:20   courage to we would do something a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/140">TS</a>]

00:02:23   little bit more free form and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/143">TS</a>]

00:02:26   alternate among the three of us and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/146">TS</a>]

00:02:28   pick out some movies that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/148">TS</a>]

00:02:29   particularly liked or disliked from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/149">TS</a>]

00:02:32   Pixar and talk about them in turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/152">TS</a>]

00:02:35   so with that I think we'll start with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/155">TS</a>]

00:02:38   Steve let's do you have a particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/158">TS</a>]

00:02:40   favorite pixar film that you'd like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/160">TS</a>]

00:02:42   talk about first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/162">TS</a>]

00:02:43   well for me at the moment is a tie and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/163">TS</a>]

00:02:46   it is only a time because i just watched [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/166">TS</a>]

00:02:49   up for the first time two nights ago and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/169">TS</a>]

00:02:53   very quickly that became perhaps my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/173">TS</a>]

00:02:57   favorite pixar films without you the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/177">TS</a>]

00:02:59   first pic and me pixar film draft is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/179">TS</a>]

00:03:02   up in the yes that's that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/182">TS</a>]

00:03:05   except i'm i'm still not certain that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07   quite matches the incredibles for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09   which would be Mike my other pic want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/189">TS</a>]

00:03:13   go with up just a spoiler alert somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/193">TS</a>]

00:03:17   else will pick the incredibles so how I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/197">TS</a>]

00:03:20   figured I figured that would probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/200">TS</a>]

00:03:22   happen that the reason I'm not sure at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/202">TS</a>]

00:03:25   this point is because I the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/205">TS</a>]

00:03:27   afterglow has yet to fade on up which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/207">TS</a>]

00:03:29   thought was frankly just magnificent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/209">TS</a>]

00:03:30   from stem to stern that you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/210">TS</a>]

00:03:34   the movie that's famous for the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/214">TS</a>]

00:03:37   that it has that long dialogue less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/217">TS</a>]

00:03:40   scene between the husband and the wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/220">TS</a>]

00:03:43   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/223">TS</a>]

00:03:44   yeah essentially makes everybody turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46   everybody into just weeping minis well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/226">TS</a>]

00:03:52   yeah and the first thing yeah it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/232">TS</a>]

00:03:53   roughly the first 11 minutes of the film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   and it chronicles a young Carl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/235">TS</a>]

00:03:58   frederickson's early meeting with his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/238">TS</a>]

00:04:01   future wife and then of course it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   know we see various snippets of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06   their married life and and then the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/246">TS</a>]

00:04:09   end of the line for the wife and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/249">TS</a>]

00:04:13   then we of course see Carl and alone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/253">TS</a>]

00:04:17   and sad holding the blue balloon that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/257">TS</a>]

00:04:19   previously had in his youth and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/259">TS</a>]

00:04:22   just all these lovely parallels from his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   youth to to the 22 the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/264">TS</a>]

00:04:28   september-october years and for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/268">TS</a>]

00:04:31   shadowing alert by the way involving a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/271">TS</a>]

00:04:32   balloon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/272">TS</a>]

00:04:33   I've been in a way the pathos of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/273">TS</a>]

00:04:36   scene is just so perfect me to hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/276">TS</a>]

00:04:38   notes so so perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/278">TS</a>]

00:04:41   you know between the bits where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/281">TS</a>]

00:04:44   we discovered they can't have children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/284">TS</a>]

00:04:45   and then they keep going back to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/285">TS</a>]

00:04:46   dream they have of being at Paradise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/286">TS</a>]

00:04:48   Falls and it is they're all these little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50   details like there's a scene where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/290">TS</a>]

00:04:54   think Carly's leaving for the day to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   to work and and there's a newspaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/296">TS</a>]

00:05:00   clipping in the window that says like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/300">TS</a>]

00:05:01   local zoo employee rescues endangered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/301">TS</a>]

00:05:05   species or something and it's about it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/305">TS</a>]

00:05:07   about the wife but it's it's just this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/307">TS</a>]

00:05:10   tiny little detail that you never it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12   never comes up again but you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/312">TS</a>]

00:05:13   just it's one of those things that just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   makes the thing works so perfectly so a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17   lot of people when i talk about they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/317">TS</a>]

00:05:19   like oh that's a movie that makes you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/319">TS</a>]

00:05:20   cry and in fact it's totally true that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   the movie that starts out with the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   of their life and it makes you cry but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/324">TS</a>]

00:05:25   then it turns into actually kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27   zany retro adventure story you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/327">TS</a>]

00:05:31   and it's an interesting contrast because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/331">TS</a>]

00:05:32   some of the humor and in pixar films can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/332">TS</a>]

00:05:36   be more subtle whereas in up the humor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/336">TS</a>]

00:05:40   is almost all this very broad physical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42   comedy and and wackiness talking dogs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/342">TS</a>]

00:05:45   such and talking dogs and it's it's such [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/345">TS</a>]

00:05:47   a stark contrast to the the emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/347">TS</a>]

00:05:50   sections of the segments of the film and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52   there's another obviously that first 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/352">TS</a>]

00:05:54   minutes and then again towards the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/354">TS</a>]

00:05:55   of the film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/355">TS</a>]

00:05:56   Carl kind of has come to Jesus moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/356">TS</a>]

00:05:58   where you know he breaks out of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/358">TS</a>]

00:06:00   depression about his wife and decides to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/360">TS</a>]

00:06:02   have new adventures and and that those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/362">TS</a>]

00:06:05   are kind of book ends and then in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/365">TS</a>]

00:06:06   middle there's just all this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/366">TS</a>]

00:06:07   whacky bird and dog shenanigans and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/367">TS</a>]

00:06:14   a whole bunch of stuff that requires [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/374">TS</a>]

00:06:16   vast suspension of disbelief I'm is kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/376">TS</a>]

00:06:18   of weird just juxtaposition and i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/378">TS</a>]

00:06:21   sure how I'm going to feel about it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/381">TS</a>]

00:06:23   week or two after I've thought a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/383">TS</a>]

00:06:25   bit longer about you know about the film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/385">TS</a>]

00:06:28   and I'm also not sure that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/388">TS</a>]

00:06:31   it's a film that I'm gonna want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/391">TS</a>]

00:06:32   revisit a lot just because so much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/392">TS</a>]

00:06:35   what's good about it is is the emotional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/395">TS</a>]

00:06:38   and the emotional moments and the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/398">TS</a>]

00:06:41   of pathos and in and sadness and where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/401">TS</a>]

00:06:46   it whereas incredible you know you go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/406">TS</a>]

00:06:47   you come for the the great action scenes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/407">TS</a>]

00:06:50   and the the kind of cool fairly suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/410">TS</a>]

00:06:53   done message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/413">TS</a>]

00:06:54   with up your therefore the emotions and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56   i'm not just not sure that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/416">TS</a>]

00:06:57   something I'm gonna watch over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   again you know now I it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/419">TS</a>]

00:07:02   because it's so notable and it is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/422">TS</a>]

00:07:03   touching but I watched it again after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/423">TS</a>]

00:07:06   probably a year or so having not seen it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/426">TS</a>]

00:07:09   and was actually surprised because i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/429">TS</a>]

00:07:12   reminded oh yes after that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14   there's a whole movie that's kind of got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16   this wacky adventure with the talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18   dog which is you know there's a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   funny bit no crazy giant bird and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   it's actually pretty good but you lose [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/442">TS</a>]

00:07:25   I think you lose sight of it because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/445">TS</a>]

00:07:27   that of that scene in the beginning and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/447">TS</a>]

00:07:29   just how notable it is and just how sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/449">TS</a>]

00:07:32   it is that it's really easy it's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34   kind of hard to get past it to the rest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/454">TS</a>]

00:07:35   of the movie even though the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/455">TS</a>]

00:07:36   movie is good and it's good to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/456">TS</a>]

00:07:38   just you know it's like the look the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/458">TS</a>]

00:07:40   cloud thats hanging over the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42   of the movie and it's hard to remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/462">TS</a>]

00:07:44   anything else about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/464">TS</a>]

00:07:45   yeah i definitely agree with that i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   it's it it and I think a lot of its just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/467">TS</a>]

00:07:49   because that that emotional stuff is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   just so superbly done i think you'd be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/471">TS</a>]

00:07:54   hard-pressed to to match it and and I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/474">TS</a>]

00:07:58   will be surprised if pixar ever does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/478">TS</a>]

00:08:00   match that level of emotional resonance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/480">TS</a>]

00:08:02   in in any of their films although sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/482">TS</a>]

00:08:05   probably about I think toy story 2 was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/485">TS</a>]

00:08:07   really where they started always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/487">TS</a>]

00:08:09   inserting something that would depress [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/489">TS</a>]

00:08:11   the hell out of here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/491">TS</a>]

00:08:12   oh yeah everything and they're they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/492">TS</a>]

00:08:16   excellent at it I'm sorry too and toys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   story three both have moments that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/498">TS</a>]

00:08:19   that are very much in the same vein but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/499">TS</a>]

00:08:22   i think that was probably the pinnacle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24   of tha the tear-jerking moments and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/504">TS</a>]

00:08:26   find it hard to believe they'll ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/506">TS</a>]

00:08:27   deliver match that pinnacle also it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29   it's so well done in up they didn't need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   to use a Sarah McLachlan song to do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/511">TS</a>]

00:08:35   right for randy newman and sarah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/515">TS</a>]

00:08:37   mclachlan right that they didn't need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/517">TS</a>]

00:08:38   squeeze it out of that way they just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   Michael chiquinho and i read an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/520">TS</a>]

00:08:43   interview with him where he basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/523">TS</a>]

00:08:44   said that he felt like don't hit the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/524">TS</a>]

00:08:46   pressure for the movie to succeed was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/526">TS</a>]

00:08:47   entirely on him because he has for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/527">TS</a>]

00:08:50   entire thing and if he didn't do it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   right the whole movie doesn't come off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   so but yet and it's amazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/534">TS</a>]

00:08:56   yes it's marvelous and it's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/536">TS</a>]

00:08:59   that you don't notice the first time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/539">TS</a>]

00:09:00   through me you you notice it's this nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/540">TS</a>]

00:09:03   sort of catchy toe-tapping score but but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/543">TS</a>]

00:09:06   that actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/546">TS</a>]

00:09:07   since since i'm a sucker for the model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/547">TS</a>]

00:09:09   and I got after seeing the first 11 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11   minutes i went back and revisited it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/551">TS</a>]

00:09:12   twice before you finish the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   film because i was so impressed by it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   and not on subsequent watches that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/556">TS</a>]

00:09:19   thing that really came to the fore was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21   held brilliant that score was and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/561">TS</a>]

00:09:22   how unobtrusive it is and yet how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/562">TS</a>]

00:09:27   it really really adds you know without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/567">TS</a>]

00:09:30   getting in the way that BS 2 @ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   excellently done work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   yeah one of my favorite things about up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/574">TS</a>]

00:09:39   is that it references one of my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/579">TS</a>]

00:09:42   books when I was a kid which is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/582">TS</a>]

00:09:45   little house by Virginia Lee Burton [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/585">TS</a>]

00:09:47   which is the story of a house that's out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/587">TS</a>]

00:09:50   in the countryside and it's built in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/590">TS</a>]

00:09:53   past out in the countryside and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/593">TS</a>]

00:09:54   over time the city comes out throws up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/594">TS</a>]

00:09:58   around it and that it ends up in between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/598">TS</a>]

00:10:00   two skyscrapers and and at the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/600">TS</a>]

00:10:03   the legs very sad and it's all boarded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   up and then and then they they they pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07   it up and move it back out into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/607">TS</a>]

00:10:08   country and me and they refurbishments a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/608">TS</a>]

00:10:11   it's really actually had a touching kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/611">TS</a>]

00:10:14   of somewhat model and story he had and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/614">TS</a>]

00:10:17   it's directly referencing up because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/617">TS</a>]

00:10:19   same thing happens to his house and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/619">TS</a>]

00:10:21   his house flies away out of the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/621">TS</a>]

00:10:24   of the city where it where it ended up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/624">TS</a>]

00:10:25   I'm so i really love that about that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/625">TS</a>]

00:10:28   know can't be anything but a reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/628">TS</a>]

00:10:30   to the little house and it's great i i i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   remember that book now that you mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   it but somehow didn't come to mind spent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/634">TS</a>]

00:10:35   so long since I've seen it yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/635">TS</a>]

00:10:37   that's very cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/637">TS</a>]

00:10:38   I John any thoughts about up before we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/638">TS</a>]

00:10:40   move on and I do actually i was taking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/640">TS</a>]

00:10:45   some notes while you're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/645">TS</a>]

00:10:46   the opening sequence one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/646">TS</a>]

00:10:49   that comes to mind is whenever a Pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51   movie I think about what Pixar is doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/651">TS</a>]

00:10:54   that's that's different than what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/654">TS</a>]

00:10:57   can do in a live-action movie because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/657">TS</a>]

00:10:59   pics are really is defined by at not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/659">TS</a>]

00:11:02   much technology but the animation says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04   their animation on the studio and a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06   of the positive reaction i think for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/666">TS</a>]

00:11:09   Pixar is a there you know all this an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/669">TS</a>]

00:11:11   animated movie and older generation send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/671">TS</a>]

00:11:14   to dismiss them as frivolous or kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/674">TS</a>]

00:11:16   movies but pixar doesn't accept those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   limits and we'll try to do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20   that regular movies do it just happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/680">TS</a>]

00:11:23   to be with animation and I think in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/683">TS</a>]

00:11:24   case of up and an opening sequence they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/684">TS</a>]

00:11:27   do with Pixar does a lot which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29   something that's actually harder to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31   in live action and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/691">TS</a>]

00:11:33   but this was actually talking about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/693">TS</a>]

00:11:34   little one up was a being reviewed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/694">TS</a>]

00:11:38   the mainstream media was like oh here's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/698">TS</a>]

00:11:41   a here's a movie that has an old person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/701">TS</a>]

00:11:45   as a main character and you don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/705">TS</a>]

00:11:46   that so much in live-action movies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/706">TS</a>]

00:11:50   especially not in kids live action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/710">TS</a>]

00:11:51   movies there's an old person in a kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53   movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/713">TS</a>]

00:11:54   it's like the scary old man who lives [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/714">TS</a>]

00:11:56   next door or the grumpy grand par [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58   whatever but the kid is clearly you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/718">TS</a>]

00:12:00   they always have it any sort of young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/720">TS</a>]

00:12:01   adult or child thing as a kid of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/721">TS</a>]

00:12:03   comparably just as the clear main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/723">TS</a>]

00:12:05   character and the adults are in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/725">TS</a>]

00:12:06   background or its cocoon and it's all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/726">TS</a>]

00:12:09   the above [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/729">TS</a>]

00:12:10   yeah right and it at that and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   that's actually one of the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/732">TS</a>]

00:12:13   examples of open and it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/733">TS</a>]

00:12:15   hailed at the time i think is as being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/735">TS</a>]

00:12:17   shocker because it featured old people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/737">TS</a>]

00:12:19   so yeah I think that's the only with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/739">TS</a>]

00:12:20   time before up that I can think of one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/740">TS</a>]

00:12:23   that was true except maybe for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25   grumpy old men of the world which were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27   which were more lampooning the old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   philately if if you think about Kuno or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/749">TS</a>]

00:12:32   cocoon or I don't think of another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/752">TS</a>]

00:12:34   example is a couple of other ones out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/754">TS</a>]

00:12:36   there where the theme of the movie is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/756">TS</a>]

00:12:40   old people versus this movie where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/760">TS</a>]

00:12:43   theme is not old people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/763">TS</a>]

00:12:44   the theme is you know there are other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/764">TS</a>]

00:12:46   themes been one of the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/766">TS</a>]

00:12:48   happens to be an old person yes he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/768">TS</a>]

00:12:49   loss but he could have just as easily [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/769">TS</a>]

00:12:50   been younger and has lost his wife at an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/770">TS</a>]

00:12:53   earlier age and not be no like it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/773">TS</a>]

00:12:54   about being old rice cocoon is so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/774">TS</a>]

00:12:56   central on your you're getting to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/776">TS</a>]

00:12:58   point where you're going to die you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/778">TS</a>]

00:12:59   with a bunch of old people you know so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/779">TS</a>]

00:13:01   so this was a different in and respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/781">TS</a>]

00:13:04   that it happened to be an old person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/784">TS</a>]

00:13:05   starts like a movie starring a gay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/785">TS</a>]

00:13:07   person versus a movie about being gay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/787">TS</a>]

00:13:10   you know what I mean when I crossing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/790">TS</a>]

00:13:12   that threshold and put them but the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/792">TS</a>]

00:13:13   thing that struck me is that if you try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/793">TS</a>]

00:13:15   to do that opening sequence in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/795">TS</a>]

00:13:16   live-action show the same thing show a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/796">TS</a>]

00:13:18   little kid he meets the girl grew up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/798">TS</a>]

00:13:19   there they're married they get older [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/799">TS</a>]

00:13:21   they're a nice you know that just do the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/801">TS</a>]

00:13:23   whole thing shop for shopping with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/803">TS</a>]

00:13:24   actual old people and then have that old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26   person be in the movie throughout the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/806">TS</a>]

00:13:28   rest of the thing I think it's harder to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/808">TS</a>]

00:13:30   make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/810">TS</a>]

00:13:31   a movie with an older person that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/811">TS</a>]

00:13:34   audiences and especially children will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36   relate to in the same way simply because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   old people are not as attractive as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   young people and when you see old people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   in a in a live-action movie they always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/822">TS</a>]

00:13:45   want to show you the old person is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/825">TS</a>]

00:13:47   framing device and step your back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/827">TS</a>]

00:13:48   when he was brad pitt and the most of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50   the movies with the old guys brad pitt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/830">TS</a>]

00:13:51   and you're looking like all that all guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53   used to be Brad Pitt but you spend most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/833">TS</a>]

00:13:55   of your movie yeah it would you spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/835">TS</a>]

00:13:56   most of your movie looking at brad pitt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   and yet you related back to the person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   but they don't have the bravery to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/840">TS</a>]

00:14:01   you know the guy jumping off blimps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/841">TS</a>]

00:14:03   flying planes you know rescuing the kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/843">TS</a>]

00:14:06   like no one wants to see that old guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   but in animation you can show an old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/848">TS</a>]

00:14:11   person is also cute and adorable like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/851">TS</a>]

00:14:13   but if you look at his face they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/853">TS</a>]

00:14:14   basically smooth out the wrinkles he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/854">TS</a>]

00:14:16   not he doesn't look so much like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/856">TS</a>]

00:14:17   actual person that it reminds us of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/857">TS</a>]

00:14:19   own mortality or is is unattractive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/859">TS</a>]

00:14:21   whatever he fits in as a character in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/861">TS</a>]

00:14:23   animation looks a little like the heat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   miser now that i think about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/865">TS</a>]

00:14:26   yeah a lot you know I claymation or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28   smart and he's really a caricature of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30   old person but it's it's somehow not is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/870">TS</a>]

00:14:32   off-putting seen as an actual old person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/872">TS</a>]

00:14:35   on film and I don't always thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/875">TS</a>]

00:14:36   was interesting because I thought I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/876">TS</a>]

00:14:37   think you did this opening scene with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   live-action it wouldn't work as well it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/879">TS</a>]

00:14:41   will be more difficult to get it to work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/881">TS</a>]

00:14:42   for that same reason that you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/882">TS</a>]

00:14:44   people think it's gonna be like ages 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/884">TS</a>]

00:14:46   people are always just a fact of life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/886">TS</a>]

00:14:47   you know that we can less attractive as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/887">TS</a>]

00:14:50   we get older you know that whatever you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/890">TS</a>]

00:14:52   want to say about old men being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/892">TS</a>]

00:14:53   distinguished or whatever it's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55   the same as looking at Brad Pitt but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57   when you look at Carl he's he looks just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   fine because he's an animated character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/899">TS</a>]

00:15:00   you know right and I certainly couldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/900">TS</a>]

00:15:03   do this the scenes where in live-action [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/903">TS</a>]

00:15:05   where Carl is jumping off a blimp or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/905">TS</a>]

00:15:08   dragging the house on his own you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10   you wouldn't believe it because he had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/910">TS</a>]

00:15:11   such as awful as it is but because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13   animated you can just about forgiving [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/913">TS</a>]

00:15:15   you know you also have the the technical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   issues of showing somebody at various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   ages means you have to cast people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/919">TS</a>]

00:15:21   sort of look like them at various ages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/921">TS</a>]

00:15:22   right yeah which is continuity you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/922">TS</a>]

00:15:24   just totally blow past that and I it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/924">TS</a>]

00:15:28   funny though that you say he you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/928">TS</a>]

00:15:30   usually they're there the grumpy old man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/930">TS</a>]

00:15:32   of the scary neighbor in many ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/932">TS</a>]

00:15:33   that's exactly what this movie is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   playing against is that he is the grumpy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/935">TS</a>]

00:15:37   old man who's the scary neighbor but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39   that makes to explain why right and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/939">TS</a>]

00:15:42   from his viewpoint and not from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/942">TS</a>]

00:15:43   viewpoint of the kid even they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/943">TS</a>]

00:15:45   ask the kids which is really great slip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/945">TS</a>]

00:15:48   yeah the kid comes to his door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/948">TS</a>]

00:15:49   we don't follow the kid and then that up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   seeing the kid growing up for the grumpy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/951">TS</a>]

00:15:52   old man how something scary's the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/952">TS</a>]

00:15:54   way around we are with the old man we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/954">TS</a>]

00:15:55   have been able to pick it and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/955">TS</a>]

00:15:57   kid comes to the door he's the is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59   intruder or the scary one of the strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01   thing I kind of disagree that it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/961">TS</a>]

00:16:03   about being old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/963">TS</a>]

00:16:04   I mean it's less about being old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/964">TS</a>]

00:16:06   certainly than cocoon a grumpy old man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/966">TS</a>]

00:16:08   or something that's that's more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/968">TS</a>]

00:16:09   exclusively about being old but it in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/969">TS</a>]

00:16:14   way I think it's exactly about being all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/974">TS</a>]

00:16:15   that mean where we have the the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/975">TS</a>]

00:16:17   sequence where r posteli passing away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/977">TS</a>]

00:16:20   he's coming down the stairs slowly and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   grumpily in his chair and he's he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/982">TS</a>]

00:16:25   doing all these very stereotypically old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   things it's it's it's almost his the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/987">TS</a>]

00:16:30   whole journey is almost his discovery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/990">TS</a>]

00:16:31   that being old doesn't mean you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   be a grumpy crusty old bastard you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/993">TS</a>]

00:16:36   what the John's point it could also be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/996">TS</a>]

00:16:38   about getting over Los right i mean but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/998">TS</a>]

00:16:41   you could you could say that he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:44   younger and lost his wife and I decided [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:45   to close themselves off from the world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:48   maybe it's more resonant because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1008">TS</a>]

00:16:50   old because rather people close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1010">TS</a>]

00:16:51   themselves off from the world all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53   time but it could have you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:54   could have told that story and have him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1014">TS</a>]

00:16:56   be young and closed off as like you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:58   got something to live for right could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1018">TS</a>]

00:17:00   still be the message but it i think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1020">TS</a>]

00:17:03   intensified by the fact that he did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   know he's old and he could have every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07   reason to just give up and stop living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:10   more than a winner would it's not so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:13   much about his mortality that's exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:14   what i was going to say is that if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:15   was if he was 14 lost his wife you tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   the exact same story he's not a he isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:20   mortality is not looming over and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22   like he's now I call the end of my road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:23   is coming he's lost the will to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:26   because he lost his wife and that same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1046">TS</a>]

00:17:27   exact thing would happen if they were 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:29   because he feels that he didn't get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31   do all the things you wanted to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33   his wife when she was alive and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:34   would have been true no matter when she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1054">TS</a>]

00:17:36   died they cut out that scene at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38   of the at the end of the musical montage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:40   where he wears doctor tells him he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:42   six months to live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:43   just totally change the movie but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:46   your prostate Carl yeah and and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1066">TS</a>]

00:17:49   naughty i mean again cooling the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:50   thing is like it you can do things now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:52   that you couldn't do when you're old and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:53   obviously this movie is not bound by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:54   that at all he goes off those crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:56   things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1076">TS</a>]

00:17:57   one more point up even though we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1077">TS</a>]

00:17:59   soon talk about inevitably an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:01   pg-rated movie I thought up had the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:03   PG or possibly pg-13 moment in any Pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:07   movie i can either one of you guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:10   which moment i'm going to site now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12   hmm so so maybe this was just me anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:16   it was a short moment but I it jumped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:21   out at me as even more out of place not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1101">TS</a>]

00:18:24   not so much out of place but he even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:26   more jarring in the opening sequence is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:28   where he clocks the galleria and is his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:29   forehead bleeds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:30   yeah exactly so it's a moment of adult [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1110">TS</a>]

00:18:33   anger you know displaced anger but still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:35   anger at someone who isn't an enemy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1115">TS</a>]

00:18:38   you know sort of the same way with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:40   get angry you realize that what must you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:42   become injuring someone who is not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1122">TS</a>]

00:18:44   odo like it's not comical cartoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:47   violence is actual violence and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1127">TS</a>]

00:18:49   show blood so I mean even if they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51   show blood I feel like you never see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:54   that kind of non-superhero non cartoon [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:57   against an innocent person by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   protagonist who is angry for no good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:01   reason you know displaced anger from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1141">TS</a>]

00:19:02   other issues hurting somebody and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:05   the blood on top of it that right i eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:08   the movie is rated G but that moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10   like cheese this is gonna be so you come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   off that that montage we like our kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   don't understand because they haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:15   lived a life they don't understand that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   the deep you know emotional impact of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:18   this segment about living a life with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:20   someone haven't I blah blah but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22   certainly the understand hurting someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:24   even if they understand that it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   you know that they understand this guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:27   is not an enemy or not a comical enemy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1167">TS</a>]

00:19:29   and and our hero they were with hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1169">TS</a>]

00:19:32   this person out of anger that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1172">TS</a>]

00:19:34   stood out to me it is intense and in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   first thing that I thought when I saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:37   that was was wow he drew blood with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:40   tennis ball he must really like him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:43   I mean he must have really been pissed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:45   so you're right i think that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1185">TS</a>]

00:19:47   what you think it's it handles in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1187">TS</a>]

00:19:49   serious rage really whacked him so like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1189">TS</a>]

00:19:53   I've been trying to decide you know this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   ended up a couple times like does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:57   does that add to the movie or is that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1197">TS</a>]

00:19:59   place i think i still think it adds to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1199">TS</a>]

00:20:01   the movie because if we ever do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:03   podcast about children's movies I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:04   probably talk about the fact that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:06   children's movies you want to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:07   something in them that challenges [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:10   children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:11   and emotionally just a little bit you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1211">TS</a>]

00:20:13   know that sort of how they grow you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:14   don't want to be overwhelming but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16   want to be a little something so i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:18   the opening scene was probably mostly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:19   lost on in very young children who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:21   aren't that empathetic and don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1221">TS</a>]

00:20:23   understand you know the adult lives in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25   relationships but i think especially the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:28   little spark of blood that you get their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30   kids know about you know when the red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:33   stuff comes out as a bad and and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:36   scene is not played for laughs and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1236">TS</a>]

00:20:38   not cartoon violence and it's over very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   quickly move on quickly under the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:42   thing of this guy that you're following [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:43   I think that moment adds the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:46   doesn't take away I'm and it's good that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48   they didn't you know it's good that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   a short moment but i'm very glad that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:51   there no I definitely think it adds both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:54   for that reason and because it's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:56   really speaks in a very simple way to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1256">TS</a>]

00:20:59   just exactly how depressed and and lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1259">TS</a>]

00:21:03   Carl is without Elly that he would he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:06   would go to that because all we've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:08   up to that point is just shots of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1268">TS</a>]

00:21:10   being happy-go-lucky and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:13   picking up on the hill and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1273">TS</a>]

00:21:15   juxtaposition of him you know flying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   into a rage and cracking the guy over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:18   the skull with his cane is it really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20   strong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:21   not to mention of course you need you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1281">TS</a>]

00:21:22   need something to get him to to be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:24   fear for his house in order to move the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1284">TS</a>]

00:21:26   story forward but yeah I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:27   definitely a positive and that's all so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:30   much better than I mean they did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32   stereotypical things to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:33   stereotypical things are going away Kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:35   I'm grumpy because my you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:36   expressing is our clothes off in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:39   world i don't like kids are happy things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:40   Bob that's the stereotypical thing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   the more realistic manifestation is him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   doing crazy out-of-character things you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:47   know in terms of getting violent which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:48   is not something that you would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1308">TS</a>]

00:21:49   done his normal life and as much it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:53   much stronger statement that him just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:55   being grumpy around kids because you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1315">TS</a>]

00:21:57   seen so many old people be grumpy around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:58   kids you always know all you know he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   really a nice guy at heart of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:01   here's here's someone doing something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:02   it's unflattering that someone something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:05   that you wouldn't want someone else it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:06   not endearing or adorable people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08   grumpiness type stuff you know i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:11   going to say that when we started this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   podcast i had some concern whether we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:15   would be able to fill an entire podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17   talking about pixar and it turns out we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   could fill half a podcast talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:21   one Pixar movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:22   we could probably go the rest of the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:25   without but we should probably move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   yeah I mean I think it's great make it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:29   shows the depth of these of these films [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:32   that we could devote that much time to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:33   it let's move on to johns johns pick in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:36   this pixar draft I i assume John that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:39   you are you come to speak a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:41   about the incredibles yes it's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1361">TS</a>]

00:22:44   favorite is your favorite too and is its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:47   everybody's favorite i believe i said in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   our superhero movie podcast it's my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   favorite superhero movie period so yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:54   yeah I don't know I'd have to think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56   about that more to make a decision but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:57   it's it's my clear favorite Pixar movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1377">TS</a>]

00:23:00   and I didn't think that after i saw it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   like what I guess I was a bigger fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04   for example Toy Story 2 or or you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:08   maybe finding nemo like it when i saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:12   that Michael is another good Pixar movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:13   but over time it has grown to overshadow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:16   all the other pixar movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18   perhaps as I've seen each one of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:19   eight million times as my children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:21   watching them it gives me a pretty solid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:24   view of the the the repertoire Pixar and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:29   incredible stands above them I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:30   trying to think of the reasons why I the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1410">TS</a>]

00:23:33   first thing is that i think it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1413">TS</a>]

00:23:35   still the only PG rated one I think so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   it was the was the first PG rated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   despite the pd moment we just talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41   about from up the fact that it's PG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:43   rated gives it a leg up when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   asking an adult which is your favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   movie because you are constrained by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:50   rated g movies and sentiment song i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52   really do like Reggie movies on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:54   favorite movies ever rated movies will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:55   talk about in the kids podcast I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   someday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:58   yes but being PG freeze you a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:02   and that the next thing is that it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:05   superhero movie and I like superhero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:07   movies and so and that's a topic that PG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1447">TS</a>]

00:24:10   rating lends itself to zero just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:11   little bit less constrained about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:13   know on the things that superheroes tend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15   to do i and all the reasons you like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:18   superhero movie and also Pixar is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:22   doing a straight-up super they never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   almost never do anything straight up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:25   whenever Pixar's doing anything it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27   always possible is the animation angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29   you always expect was going to Pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:30   movie about X they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:33   examine the absurdities of exorbitant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35   all monsters inc the whole movie is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:37   about your monsters of scary things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:38   monsters in your closet but they have an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1478">TS</a>]

00:24:39   absurd angle on the monsters where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   their job and stuff like that and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:42   toys you know it's gonna be lots of in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:44   jokes about toys and stuff like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:45   well superheros they're not gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:48   Batman Begins animated or anything even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:51   close to that or even just you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:52   Superman one animated version it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   going to be a superhero story it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:55   to do all the little in jokes and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1495">TS</a>]

00:24:58   references and funny absurd things about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   superheroes but the great thing about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:03   incredibles visible is also in its own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1503">TS</a>]

00:25:05   right as Jason pointed out a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   superhero movie while also making fun of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   Superman that balances incredibly hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:11   because you don't want to be like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:12   greatest american hero or some other you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:14   know scary movie type parody of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   superhero movie because that I mean I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18   guess you can do that but it's not pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:19   style it has a both ways it gets to poke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:22   fun at superheroes and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24   conventions of superheroes while also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:26   conforming to the mall and using them to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:28   make a great superhero movie i'm and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1528">TS</a>]

00:25:31   on top of that it's kind of a unique [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:32   take on superhero store it's not they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:34   they decided to have their own twist you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   know they have their own rules about I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:37   guess that's kind of a Malcolm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1537">TS</a>]

00:25:38   everything is out there but you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:39   no capes angle the heroes who were loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:43   by society than shunned by them as kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   of a watchman angle like no capes was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   actually yeah it kind of the launch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:49   existing superhero things all push [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1549">TS</a>]

00:25:53   together but it is kind of unique like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1553">TS</a>]

00:25:54   when I think about the superhero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   universe is like and I can clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:57   picture you know superman's universe and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:59   Batman's universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:00   well I don't know what their pc rebooted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   anyway it's a but what I can picture the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:05   incredible universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:06   they've made their own thing even if it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   is a derivative arm and the other thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:13   in its favor is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:16   it speaks to suburban white males with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:19   families so obviously if you got a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   of suburban white males with families [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:22   together who like superheroes and like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24   superhero movies not have a movie where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:26   the main character has a family and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:29   got all this type of things that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:31   know it's it's a such a clear map of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   like when you're older and thinking back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:35   to your younger days now you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1595">TS</a>]

00:26:36   responsibilities and your job as I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38   feeling it's a slam-dunk I'm just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:40   everything matic front for geeks like us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:42   to remove and execute on all of them so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:46   well I cannot speak for yourself and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:49   you pretty much got me pegged [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:51   yeah and and you know everything about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:54   it like the message is not drilled into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:57   you it's suddenly you know like I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1617">TS</a>]

00:26:59   know maybe they could come outside a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:00   little bit like yeah that that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   best thing for that for the incredibles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   for me by far just piping in for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   second is is the fact that the message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   is so strong and yet so subtle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:11   yeah they don't bang your head with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:14   like for example the the second half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:16   Wally where it's just you know too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1636">TS</a>]

00:27:17   heavy-handed I pixar as hit-or-miss on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:21   on the message from this one it's weave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23   through the the great thing about it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:24   that it's in such a great superhero [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26   movie the messages we've throughout the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:27   story it is not delivered by exposition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1647">TS</a>]

00:27:30   or tacked onto another story about good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:32   guys versus bad guys it is the story the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:35   story is you know it's so nicely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   intertwined and it has some of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39   favorite scenes I think we've talked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:40   about in past podcast were just send up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:43   some things like the i think i said this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1663">TS</a>]

00:27:45   for my favorite scene in the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47   movies when he arrives on the island [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:48   with the sort of James Bond type since [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   arriving in the autopilot thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52   stands up against any actual James Bond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   sequence that it's that it's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   playing off of yes it's just so so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:59   amazing that he wanted parity is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:03   things that transcends the things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:04   it's parodying I this I just love this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:07   movie I can cannot say enough good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1687">TS</a>]

00:28:09   things about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:10   yeah I one thing about a lot of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:12   pixar movies is that they take something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:13   that is a you know they've got the kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15   of adult thing that's of interest to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:16   adults and then they've got the stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18   the kids like and I think in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:19   this is the best example of that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:22   the kids really don't get the midlife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:25   crisis thing they just a and they just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:28   don't get it at all it is so far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:30   outside of the realm of your kid even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:31   beginning to understand it I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   and yet that is a big part of it but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:36   doesn't detract because from the kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:37   perspective you know my kids are much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:39   more focused on on dash and file it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:41   and syndrome and what he's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1721">TS</a>]

00:28:43   doing and then talking about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:48   the fact that bob has got a sketchy new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   car and this is is working out and isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:53   saying to his wife where he's a where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   he's going every day but that that plays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:57   a apart and then the overarching theme [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1737">TS</a>]

00:29:00   on top of everything else is really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:01   about kind of daring to be during to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:05   exceptional and not fitting in with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:07   crowd and you know that thats not only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1747">TS</a>]

00:29:09   it well done but it's such a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   message to have in a movie so that yes I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:15   get it checked checks all the boxes for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:17   me to which of course it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19   yeah they didn't want my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:21   speaking of things that kids don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:23   to my favorite little sections of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1763">TS</a>]

00:29:24   movie that I guess you have to I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26   is more even I just family but marriage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:28   angle haha the one scene where he's he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30   on the phone with the secret agent type [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:32   thing in his wife is calling him before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:33   she calling for dinner or something like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:34   that right and the other one wife is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:37   nobody calling me something be right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:40   there be right there and the other one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:42   with the that the wife is vacuuming by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   herself in the house something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:45   stuck in the rollers everything that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   just it they the images of what actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:51   suburban married life is like and even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   just even just the often thing like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:56   that their voices name Frozone screaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1796">TS</a>]

00:30:00   where his super suit advice and she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:01   won't tell him we're interested why do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   you want to know just tell me where it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:04   is that is those type of little tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1804">TS</a>]

00:30:08   moments that you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   that's not what the movie is about but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   it's just it rings so true and brings [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:14   you so much into this universe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:15   you're willing to buy all of the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17   other stuff and you talk about the kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   being excited superhero parts in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   kids with the kids are not the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23   characters in the movie by a long shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:24   and get kids will watch it and think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:27   kids are the main characters like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:28   you know i mean it's it's such a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:31   like three different movies in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:32   depending on who's watching it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1832">TS</a>]

00:30:34   interesting i think of all the pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:36   films that my kids have seen that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:37   probably the one that their least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   interested in it just doesn't really it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41   just hasn't really grabbed him and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:42   think part of it is because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1842">TS</a>]

00:30:43   as I that's probably the darkest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:47   pixar films in terms of you actually get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:52   a sense that there's a possibility that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   these characters might die and part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:55   that's why I probably because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:56   human know what suppose it is it will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1856">TS</a>]

00:30:59   but it's rated PG and and there is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1859">TS</a>]

00:31:00   moment that is I think I think in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:03   ways the best moment in the movie even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:04   though it's just dialogue it's where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:07   we're at last girl where Holly Hunter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:11   tells the kids you know those Saturday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:14   morning cartoons right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16   these people aren't like that if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   find you they will kill you should i go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20   mike lombardi right but what that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:22   it's so it really sets the stakes higher [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1882">TS</a>]

00:31:25   and and so it is darker but at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:29   time I a I i guess maybe this is a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   of what John said earlier so you gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:33   their ways where you need to push the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:35   story and and challenge even the kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   when they're watching it i love that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39   moment and every time I i watch it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:41   my kids I look at them while they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1901">TS</a>]

00:31:42   while they're watching it because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   the moment where you know it inject some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   real jeopardy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   that wasn't there before and it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:51   but it is it is dark and it is a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   scary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:54   then they have that I the most accurate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:58   visual manifestation of the the mental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:02   state of parenting after the jet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:03   explodes when elastigirl wraps her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:07   entire body around her two children to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   save them from the exploding plane which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   is the thing that every parent wishes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:12   they could do but can actually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:14   because it's impossible that you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:15   could physically envelop your children [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17   and save them from explosion you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   what I mean like that that one little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21   scene there it's it's a superhero seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23   it's ridiculous and has no bearing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:25   reality with the same time if you are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:28   parent and you watch that you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:29   yes that's what I would do if I got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:32   you know i mean thats the in fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:33   scene is the one that gets my wife to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:34   tear up as the is where she with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:36   she's a trying to save her kids on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:38   plane and then she has to wrap around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   them when the when the plane explodes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:42   it's because of the emotional weight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1962">TS</a>]

00:32:44   that it carries at 44 parents were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:46   people understand parenting whereas the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:48   kids angle yeah like you said the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:49   previous one they got the speech about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:51   that these people will kill you you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:53   so in something for everybody and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:55   not buying anything over there but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   right now it's great what can we say if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1977">TS</a>]

00:33:02   you don't like the incredibles there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   something wrong with you which would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:05   call it incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   IES yes it would be just a recursive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:11   incredible incredible incredibles this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:14   forever about it if you don't like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:15   incredibles you you can't be my friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:18   that's just what it comes down to yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20   there's so my wife and I were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:26   about this before i started recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   and I said I don't know what I'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:30   do because after after the incredibles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:33   there are a couple that may befall next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:38   in line and one of one of them would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:39   toy story 2 but you know I think rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:44   than pick one of the toy stories in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46   round I'm gonna go with monsters inc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:50   very nice which it's a parenting thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:55   is it's it may be but it's early it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:59   know their fourth movie it it's got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01   really interesting it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:04   interesting look um you know the furry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:08   monsters and all of that I love the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:10   conceit that the doors are you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2050">TS</a>]

00:34:14   basically like teleportation devices and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:17   it and they explore that conceit to its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:22   absolute limit in a way that it could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24   have been very easy for it to just be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26   one sort of thing well it's a portal but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   it's like the doors and the doors go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   different places and you can fall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:31   through in the action scene at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33   they're falling through doors into other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35   places and then back outdoors and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37   know they're 90 degree angles where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:38   gravity shifts as they fall through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:40   door its portal it is it is porthole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:44   right but it's also kind of a play on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2084">TS</a>]

00:34:46   that classic hallway scene that used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:47   get in the wacky comedies and nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   nowhere in the ring guy with yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51   exactly i would disappear into a door on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:53   the left and then reappear in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:54   foreground on the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:55   yeah so this is very cool so there's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   of that there's what what you we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00   mentioned earlier which is there's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:01   that nice pics are flip on it which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   that that monsters are just as scared of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:05   the kids the kids are scared of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2105">TS</a>]

00:35:06   monsters monsters are just trying to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:09   their jobs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:10   that I like there's the variations on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   the monster kind of body types and these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14   characters that you couldn't do in any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:16   other way but an animation where there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18   like you know the Billy Crystal's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:21   character mike is is is an eye with legs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:24   and then John Goodman's characters the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   big furry guy who's a big furry monster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   and it yet when you look at like the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   he's colored in his his colored kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:32   interesting multicolored for with spots [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34   you know at first glance in silhouette [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:37   and the darkies scary but in the light [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:39   of day he's not scary at all and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2139">TS</a>]

00:35:41   the whole mental level of us kids are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43   afraid of what's under the bed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:44   what's in the closet and and yet you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:48   know we once you get to know that once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   you take a little look further they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:51   just like you know the rest of us the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:53   monsters are people too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2153">TS</a>]

00:35:55   I can assist is it is what the messages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:59   it's um you know it's a charming movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01   even now all these years later I there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:05   just so many things that I like about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:06   that movie including the fact that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08   got that emotional residents that Pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   is always good at and it's got some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:11   great action and you know the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:14   that movie where he's a piece the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17   back together so that so we can go and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:20   Cebu the little girl one last time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:24   know if we're talking about just me i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:25   just imagining it seems that getcha it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   in my top five picks are T reducing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:30   moments that you know that's pretty high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:32   up on the list so you know monsters you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:37   know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:37   yeah is it a better movie then then Toy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:41   Story 2 or toy story 3 or finding nemo I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:44   don't know it's so hard for me to pick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:47   but they're things in it that I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49   thought I still just look at really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:51   fondly it and you know the the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:55   concede i think pushes it over the top [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   because they they use it in every they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2217">TS</a>]

00:37:00   squeeze every possible thing you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:02   squeeze out of a concept out of it which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2222">TS</a>]

00:37:04   when I was watching it I thought for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06   first time I thought well what about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:08   this what about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:09   well they're not going to deal with its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:10   just to get a get them through the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:12   to the Otherworld it's like The Lion the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:13   Witch and the Wardrobe there's a portal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15   and you go through it and that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:16   oh no no we're going to explore every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2236">TS</a>]

00:37:19   single thing this could mean if there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:20   were doors that were portals so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:23   that's not one of the things that I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   about monsters egg and and I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27   probably would have gone with you on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   that without being my third-favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:30   although largely it was Pete's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32   specifically because of the whole scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:35   at the end there which actually I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37   choking up with you talking about it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:38   just now but I it's really the first of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2258">TS</a>]

00:37:42   the pixar films where they could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:43   completely liberated from from any kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:46   of realistic constraints mean the toys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:49   you know its toys but of course they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:51   they're living inside of Andy's house so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2271">TS</a>]

00:37:54   you know there's there's some kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:55   real-world constraint put on what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   toys can reasonably do you know bugs are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2277">TS</a>]

00:38:00   bugs and they can only do bug things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   they can do some cool things they can he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04   get the cool perspective of the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:07   that's constructed of empty popcorn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09   boxes and so forth but monsters inc i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:12   think is really the first film where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:13   they were able to to put together a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2293">TS</a>]

00:38:15   completely unrealistic a cityscape they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:21   were constrained at all by the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   character designs as you mentioned every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:24   monster is different i think they really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:27   for the first time we're able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:28   completely go hog-wild and it with their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:31   imaginations and just come up with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:33   craziest things they could and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:34   they did a bang-up job on that it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:37   monsters inc i think has probably my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39   favorite pixar running gag in the form [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   of George Sanderson who is the victim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:45   the unwitting dupe who invariably gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:49   gets it sanitized every time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:51   all right from the from the human and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:53   rock thrown on him right he gets the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:55   sock on him he gets shaved down i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:58   two or three times it's it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   great sequence it's it's a would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   certainly one of my favorites in terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:05   of just just pure humor in a running gag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:08   form i think be at vita the adult angle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10   in this movie which I hadn't thought of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:12   enjoyed it see it again recently is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2352">TS</a>]

00:39:15   blue-collar factory work the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   the monsters are going to work in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   factory and have a boss and have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21   hierarchy within work and have either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   you know satisfaction with their job or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:25   you know where how is their working life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:28   going something again the kids probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:30   can't relate to but any adult who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:31   ever had a job can relate to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:33   workplace like atmosphere atmosphere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:36   and their livelihood is threatened to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   write that like the underpinnings of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40   industry areas in economic threat that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:44   unemployment is the threat and economics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:46   unemployment and energy policy and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2386">TS</a>]

00:39:47   you know it's just there it's in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   background apartments for the adults so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   we can relate to this insane world with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:54   ridiculous creatures because they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:55   just you know they're collecting a check [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   and punching and punching out just what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:59   you got in a conflict with the primary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:01   villain is is primarily a a climbing up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:04   the corporate ladder cut a deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06   yeah so you get a 2 it's like working [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:08   girl with monsters it no it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:12   working girl haha wow I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:20   I mean I don't even know Melanie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:22   Griffith this lovely lady [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:23   yes yes yeah I everything is a billy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:26   crystal at was cuz i don't know if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:29   was wasted in this movie I think he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2429">TS</a>]

00:40:30   good in this movie but i think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:33   early in Pixar's development that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2433">TS</a>]

00:40:36   affects our had Billy Crystal now or if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   they had billy crystal lattice prime now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   they could do even more with him he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:42   carry entire movie himself because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44   does sort of overshadow John Goodman and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   he does it in that I would compare it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:49   this is the light side the dark side is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:52   robin williams in Aladdin right where I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:55   he's talented but he overwhelms the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   whole movie is about Robin Williams [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:58   Billy Crystal plays a character here you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:00   know it's like crystal any he adds all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02   the value he can but he doesn't dominate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04   the movie or do so i think it's probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06   mostly just has to do with the writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:07   but i would say this is a a good example [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:10   of of Robin Williams and an Aladdin and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:13   the crystal i really think could carry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   one of these movies himself without the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:17   John Goodman in angle i was actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:21   going to say that billy crystal is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:22   probably the the worst part of the film [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   for me just because you know is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:25   distracting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:26   no he his it works for that because he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:30   got great lines and he delivers them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:32   well but at the same time he's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2492">TS</a>]

00:41:34   being Billy Crystal mean I don't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2494">TS</a>]

00:41:37   there's not enough of the difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:38   between the character and the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:40   delivered his lines and the way Billy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:42   Crystal just generally delivers his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:43   stand-up lines and what what that does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2503">TS</a>]

00:41:47   to me is it brings it dangerously close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   to the realm of the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:50   more film where you know you've got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:51   guy that's just allowed to drift in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   same style that he always he always does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55   in stand-up or is his other acting gigs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:58   or whatever that's Robin Williams in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   Latin problem to exactly intelligent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:02   drives me up the wall but i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   avoids that because he has an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:05   character arc he has he's not just the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:07   wisecracking sidekick he has his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09   problems and his own things that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:12   trying to get done he's not just there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:13   to serve the needs of John Goodman he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:15   not just there to advance the plot he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:16   has his girlfriend he has his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:18   concerns about his working life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   their relationship and eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:23   he's actually I mean I guess you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:25   say he was not so much reprising his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   stand-up as like it's the guy from one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:30   errant salad because he has relationship [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   issues and he's funny and wise cracking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:33   I maybe you could you could fault them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35   for that it to me though it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:37   watching Billy Crystal with a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:38   arc and 1i instead of watching a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   character with the character arc and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   Billy Crystal is also here here's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   litmus test did you like one argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:45   Sally I did yeah I one of my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:49   movies of all time are actually just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:51   making sure you're not just anti Billy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:53   Graham and I like city slickers to in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:54   which he plays Billy Crystal with a hat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56   are as taking it too far but that said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   John there are parts of when harry met [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:01   sally where it's very clearly just Billy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03   Crystal doing his stand up and they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:05   stuck it in the movie right but he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   likable it is very likely never again if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   I had billy crystal in my movie i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   say Billy whatever just go right just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:14   make your jokes and we'll leave them in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16   because they're funny the Oscar hosting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:18   thing want to see how him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:19   we'll fix it at least he was doing his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:21   stand up but his kids him as a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:24   you can imagine him in real life doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26   that stick to because it's not his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:28   stand-up is not alien to his personality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2608">TS</a>]

00:43:30   he's just like that and you know if he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32   was in a store picking up a pickle or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   something he would do a little skit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:35   about the pickle that he didn't write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:37   beforehand was just the way he is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:38   know I want to see I want to see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:42   pictures of next movie be a remake of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44   when harry met sally where billy crystal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:47   is a giant green eyeball there you'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49   finally get your pg-13 scene might even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:52   put you two in our bball have with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:54   pink monster is having I I'm kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:58   disappointed that they cancel new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2638">TS</a>]

00:43:59   because it had you heard the plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:01   synopsis of Newt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:02   I yes that is that a like a lab test low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:07   animal who's paired with a with the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:11   surviving animal in the world and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13   romantic comedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:14   yes basically like romantic comedy with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:16   lizards and I would have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:17   interesting to see pics are do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:19   because the Lizardman lab angle would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:22   have been good for you know skewering [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   scientific experiments and all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:25   types of things whatever but it's hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27   it would be a romantic comedy and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29   think that i would like to see a pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:30   romantic comedy this is jon was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:32   have-not they have in mind yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:34   yeah that would be its kind of ashamed i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:36   got can but I don't know Wally for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:39   first the first the first act of Wally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:42   could arguably be considered a romantic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:44   comedy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:44   yeah kind of in the night goes off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:46   rails I i think i think that's true it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:48   you could you could argue well it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2688">TS</a>]

00:44:49   a Wally is in you know is a romance in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:52   way that the other pixar movies aren't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:57   i want something you mentioned when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2697">TS</a>]

00:44:58   mentioned problems in the lab and i want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00   to mention here that and you mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:02   DreamWorks one of the things that i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2702">TS</a>]

00:45:04   about pixar movies and that I think is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2704">TS</a>]

00:45:07   grievous mistake of the dreamworks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2707">TS</a>]

00:45:10   movies is uh pixar movies exist in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:14   timeless world their movies that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   designed a journalism professor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:20   worked at the New York Daily News and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:21   always said that the Daily News was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2721">TS</a>]

00:45:22   meant to be read by people living in New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24   York and that the New York Times was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:25   meant to be used in reference library is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:28   so that 20 years time people could find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:30   out what life was like back then and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2730">TS</a>]

00:45:32   that's our sort of how I feel about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2732">TS</a>]

00:45:33   Pixar's like Pixar they build it to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:36   timeless they build it to be something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38   that you can watch with your kids in 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:40   years 30 years whereas you know I showed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:43   my kids aladdin and it's like yeah he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:45   doing like William F Buckley references [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2745">TS</a>]

00:45:48   and it's just all Dangerfield so dated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2748">TS</a>]

00:45:51   and and pixar seems to be kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2751">TS</a>]

00:45:54   brutally tough about just know we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:57   going to do things that are going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2757">TS</a>]

00:45:59   non classic kind of references and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:02   love that about them because the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:04   the shrek movies are not gonna they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2764">TS</a>]

00:46:06   not going to age well at all rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:08   they're all about current popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2768">TS</a>]

00:46:11   culture references and I think it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:12   exact think it's a huge mistake to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:14   down that route [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2774">TS</a>]

00:46:15   when you should I think pictures got it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:17   exactly right which is you can't do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2777">TS</a>]

00:46:19   you can't you gotta be timeless because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2779">TS</a>]

00:46:21   these are cute these are you're trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23   to make a classic kids movie right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:25   the last thing you want to do when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:26   you're trying to make a classic kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:28   movie is make it so that nobody will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2788">TS</a>]

00:46:29   understand the references in 15 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:32   it's not so much that they age poorly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:35   which they do but that it's a lazy way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:38   to write even in the moment when they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40   relevant they're not as funny as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:42   genuinely funny written jokes sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:45   voters are relying on the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:47   familiarity with this thing to get you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:49   out of having to write an actual gag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2809">TS</a>]

00:46:51   which is just lazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2811">TS</a>]

00:46:52   it's lazy it can be funny but it is lazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:55   and it completely sabotages I think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:57   long life of your film and but you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:59   right it it's classier it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:02   better to go for the true joke [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:05   instead of the kind of topical reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:08   and pics are just doesn't do that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:10   it's particularly bad in some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:11   cases you mentioned like a publicly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:14   reference was dated 20 years before how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2834">TS</a>]

00:47:16   ya lad never came out and I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:19   quite enjoyed shrek but i think is I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:21   watching shrek I could smell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2841">TS</a>]

00:47:23   freshness date coming up like within the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   next two weeks for half the jokes in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:26   movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2846">TS</a>]

00:47:27   yeah i was thinking that this is some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:29   these jokes are tired and we're tired [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:30   decades it goes to the soundtracks to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2850">TS</a>]

00:47:32   right i mean fa the Pixar has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:36   smashmouth has no place in a classic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   films are exactly right that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   that is what i was getting gap good well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42   well put it is that you want their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:45   pictures really careful the center which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:46   is not to say that they haven't done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2866">TS</a>]

00:47:48   some popular music there's some popular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:49   music and cars but it's it you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2869">TS</a>]

00:47:52   have carefully chosen and not like let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:55   get a hit from the last three years it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:56   like let's get songs about cars and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:59   we'll have you know have remade in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:00   certain style and you know it with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:04   or they or they compose their own music [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   ready to get randy newman or somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:07   else to write a song in the style they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2887">TS</a>]

00:48:09   want about their a topic and you know we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:13   can quibble about randy newman because a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:14   lot of people feel like every brand new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   man song sounds the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:17   not everyone just half of them but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:20   know when their son by sarah mclachlan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2900">TS</a>]

00:48:21   strange that's right but pics are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:24   know again goes that extra mile to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26   timeless and classic and it it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:29   you know absolutely pays off compared to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:31   that that's why they are above the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:34   movies if this is not to say that there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:35   are some other good animated and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:37   computer animated features that have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2917">TS</a>]

00:48:38   been made sense toy story came out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:41   there are I I will defend you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   several of them but you know that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:46   usually a huge failing of them is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   they're they're kind of cheap a pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:51   culture reference humor instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2931">TS</a>]

00:48:53   trying to go for something that's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:54   to stand the test of time like animated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:56   scary movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:58   yeah exactly would be good for live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   action word world the only movies that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:03   dare to do that are the scary movies you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   never see like and even just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:06   run-of-the-mill well it's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:08   bottom of the barrel like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2948">TS</a>]

00:49:10   live-action movie seemed much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:11   reticent to do the pop culture reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:13   i guess because those people have more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2953">TS</a>]

00:49:14   experience or the writers or you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2954">TS</a>]

00:49:17   the rewriters just know you gotta cut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:18   that out but in an animated movie like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2958">TS</a>]

00:49:20   yeah you want to make reference that go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2960">TS</a>]

00:49:21   ahead but my actually they do it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:23   they can get away with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25   I mean they did they know their audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:26   and and in the case of the scary movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:29   films the first was actually pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   decent and then they've they've followed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   on with just the same stuff repeated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   over and over again and that the pop [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:37   culture references get shorter timed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:40   less amusing right go on their made to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:41   be doing what is this point they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:43   exactly and they've got an audience [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:44   that's happy to absorb that and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:47   eat the disposable film and get a kick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:48   out of it and toss it away and i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:51   the the DreamWorks hooks think their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53   audiences unsophisticated and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:55   pander to them basically right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:58   where they are they there they know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00   they can get away with being lazy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:01   writing crap and they think that their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3001">TS</a>]

00:50:03   audiences that won't catch it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   they're kids and they're not supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   get enough i guess is where i was trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:10   to go with that for the last five and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:11   half men all our listeners uh who work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   at DreamWorks have now heard their ipod [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:16   out of their car and run over a few [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18   times and our unsubscribe that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:20   they've greatly improved have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   DreamWorks says yeah since since the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   early shrek days they'd certainly don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:27   do that as much as they used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3027">TS</a>]

00:50:28   megamind dreamworks and I thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   was actually a really good movie with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32   but but I think they've learned some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:33   lessons right or at least they they that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3033">TS</a>]

00:50:36   movie in particular is not as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:39   pop-culture focus but it's still really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   stunt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:42   asked which is the other part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   right is the casting right there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46   stars in pixar movie stars voices but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:49   rarely feel like the the parts are stunt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3049">TS</a>]

00:50:53   cast now billy crystal and john goodman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:55   actually is an example of one more stunt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:58   casting but in the early days i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   they did more of that with you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:01   again done with a with Tom Hanks and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3061">TS</a>]

00:51:05   it on Helen and Tim Allen exactly but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3065">TS</a>]

00:51:08   like up is is Lou Grant right it's tents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:15   and Asner but now you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3075">TS</a>]

00:51:17   oh boy and adds a scary movie at last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:20   her a nobody is saying that and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:24   because it's just not it's just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3084">TS</a>]

00:51:25   relevant in cars or Wilson is in cars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:28   but yeah and bonnie hunt and larry the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3088">TS</a>]

00:51:31   cable guy right i mean they were cast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   but they were cast because they're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:35   bring in the people and I think maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:36   that's that's something that that pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:39   does better than other studios to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3099">TS</a>]

00:51:40   because as much as I like love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:43   megamind i am reminded that it is very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3103">TS</a>]

00:51:45   specifically will ferrell and Tina Fey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:48   and actually will ferrell doesn't bother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:50   me so much because that's an outlandish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:52   character the tina fey kind of bothers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:53   me because it's like she kind of looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:55   like Tina Fey and she kind of doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   and she sounds exactly like Tina Fey cuz [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59   it's tina fey and it's like I felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:01   two on the nose and not not the right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:04   decision and I compared to something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06   into some extent I think that's a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:07   bit where Disney went wrong over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:09   years where they gradually transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3129">TS</a>]

00:52:11   from from having unknowns voicing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:13   characters to having increasingly famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:15   people it and you know for a while they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:18   sort of teetered on the brink where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:20   had guys like Terry Thomas and and phil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3140">TS</a>]

00:52:22   harris who just had a big booming voices [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3142">TS</a>]

00:52:24   but weren't necessarily known for their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:25   personalities are there you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   film's they done or the TV shows they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29   been on it and and now they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:32   completely made the transition into we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:35   have a hooded the tangled who is waste [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3155">TS</a>]

00:52:39   of that the girl entangled mandy moore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:42   and mandy moore right she's not so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:45   less relevant and she wants was and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:46   she's become an actor yet but it and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:49   but certainly I think private pinnacle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3169">TS</a>]

00:52:51   of that was the Robin Williams casting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:55   but it's it's it's funny how much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   they're there the enjoyment of their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59   films for me kind of follows that exact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   same sort of the path I was going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:04   cancers the low point oh dear lizzy low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:07   point of stunt casting low point of make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:10   the same movie the Pixar is making it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:11   much worse and and low point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3191">TS</a>]

00:53:14   characters you know trying to make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3194">TS</a>]

00:53:17   characters in the movie they want that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:18   think that Woody Allen and sylvester [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:20   stallone if i recall correctly and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3200">TS</a>]

00:53:23   crazy combination of people and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:24   had ants faces that look like Sylvester [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26   Stallone's computerized head shoved on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28   aunt and Woody Allen it's just that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   that was a real low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   it's the best by bug's life looks so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34   good in retrospect you like but remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:35   hantsport bugs like my way better than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37   that one again that's it that's a major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39   that's their second release in who were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:40   the top lenders there it's dave foley [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:42   and david Hyde Pierce and Julia Louie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:47   Dreyfus and me again pics are picking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:50   kind of known actors good actors but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3230">TS</a>]

00:53:55   for their star appeal and not just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:58   the seats [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3238">TS</a>]

00:53:59   yeah yeah in fact the Brad Pitt is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:01   superhero and megamind honestly it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:03   like totally irrelevant right that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3243">TS</a>]

00:54:05   that's why that works in a way that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:07   doesn't if it's you know just it's eddie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:10   murphy is a donkey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:11   he's crazy it takes our hearts disguise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3251">TS</a>]

00:54:15   I don't disguise the voices like for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:16   example when you mentioned a holly hunt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:18   was in the incredibles I had never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3258">TS</a>]

00:54:19   realized that she was elastigirl yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:21   until you mentioned it but now you say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   like yeah it is hi I'm Craig neverson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:25   whoo-hoo i know crazy Nelson is mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:28   coach never coach would never think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3268">TS</a>]

00:54:30   I see the characters in the movie and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:32   don't even think like I guess maybe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34   don't have distinct voices or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:35   very rarely in a Pixar movie unless it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3275">TS</a>]

00:54:38   really agree just like John Goodman I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:40   mean you're and doing risky going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   pick them out but they also don't make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:44   the mistake of trying to make that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3284">TS</a>]

00:54:46   characters look a little bit like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48   voice actors which is something the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50   disney started and it's got worse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:52   worse over the years isn't used to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3292">TS</a>]

00:54:53   obsessed with that they would show you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:54   the little videos look we filmed him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:56   doing his dialogue and then we make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:58   face look exactly like his face well if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3298">TS</a>]

00:55:00   it that's not the character don't do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3300">TS</a>]

00:55:01   that right although they were when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:02   were doing for guys like Terry Thomas it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:04   be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:05   it was a funny joke you know but when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07   you've got guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:08   that are better known just for piano [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   some cheap disposable entertainment and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:12   the whole joke is a look it's a it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:16   woody allen for instance you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3316">TS</a>]

00:55:17   it's not funny anymore and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:20   distracting and it completely removes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:22   any ability of voice to become the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:24   characters voice as opposed to Woody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:26   Allen's voice superimposed on top of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   animation and I don't think Woody Allen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:30   was too into that either no it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:32   given he's phoning it in there versus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:34   when Matt very literally this is a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36   comparison because even though Tom Hanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:39   is the a tapas top a-list triple-a like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:42   that he was just coming off like to ask [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3342">TS</a>]

00:55:43   Oscars I don't know if what the timeline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:45   was there but he's he's at the top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47   the thing you get the impression that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:49   didn't phone in woody and certainly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3349">TS</a>]

00:55:51   in the second and third one you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:52   that he was actually acting for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:54   role in the way the Tom Hanks does you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56   know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:57   yes absolutely alright work we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3357">TS</a>]

00:56:00   talked so much and i know there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   much more for us to talk about so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:04   going to pause it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3364">TS</a>]

00:56:05   we're gonna end part 1 of this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3365">TS</a>]

00:56:07   here and we're going to come back is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:09   okay will you guys come back for part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3369">TS</a>]

00:56:10   two next week [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12   I can't wait that long well you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:14   to have to John will you be back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:16   situation will kill more do you refuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3376">TS</a>]

00:56:17   to return I'll consider it right all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:20   right well well they ponder i will thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:23   you for listening to part one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:24   pics our podcast at the uncomfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:26   this is jason Snell for John Syracuse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   and Steve let's thanks for listening and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:30   we'll see you next time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:32   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:45   helpful skype volume level or will turn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:50   me into a gigantic blown-out plan pocket [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:53   but it hasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:57   good I'm glad to hear that displeases me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:00   did you just say clown pocket I i went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:06   to urban dictionary and look it up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:08   indeed richness Kato's description of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:11   was correct place from the urban [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:13   dictionary perspective we have a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3433">TS</a>]

00:57:16   who's who was a his story Steve and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:20   and several other friends from college [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:21   had had a dinner last week and a friend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:25   who's a freelance journalist had an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:26   editor tell him was it that his story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:28   was a was a clown pocket he said editing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3448">TS</a>]

00:57:31   one of your morning briefs is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3451">TS</a>]

00:57:33   bending a clown pocket it did not mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:36   what he thought it meant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:37   oh it is trying to be hip and happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:46   with it so he's using references to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48   pockets of clowns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:50   it strikes me that a grammarian should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:52   be aware that there are multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3472">TS</a>]

00:57:54   connotations of any given term that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3474">TS</a>]

00:57:57   might use the other connotation what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:59   the what is the one ya like an actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:02   ground products thank you like a thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   like pie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:04   he was being literal a pocket on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:06   clown because God distinct from regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08   pockets in some way that's their get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10   happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:11   yeah but bozo keeps his keys in his coat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3491">TS</a>]

00:58:13   pocket and if one broke loose one would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:15   have a bit of a job trying to sell it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:18   yeah exactly that's pretty weak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:21   yeah yes anyway about that well spotted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:26   I'd I thought you were gonna let the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:27   club pocket sailrite but I spat audio no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3507">TS</a>]

00:58:31   sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:32   well it still was bad audio but you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3512">TS</a>]

00:58:34   hear it alright yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:37   thought up had the most PG or possibly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3517">TS</a>]

00:58:40   pg-13 moment in any Pixar movie i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:43   can either one of you guess which moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3523">TS</a>]

00:58:45   i'm going to site now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3525">TS</a>]

00:58:46   hmm wow well I think it's obviously when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:51   they found that bird and it had a clown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:53   pocket now and no inside jokes before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:57   the recording began when i'm already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   added that one out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMaZnPWc/3539">TS</a>]