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52: A Cthuluesque Vomiting of Ideas

 

00:00:00   the incomparable test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/0">TS</a>]

00:00:11   episode 52 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/11">TS</a>]

00:00:18   August 2011 first anniversary edition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/18">TS</a>]

00:00:25   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/25">TS</a>]

00:00:28   we're back on the incomparable and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/28">TS</a>]

00:00:34   have reconvened again our book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/34">TS</a>]

00:00:37   because this is an anniversary of sorts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/37">TS</a>]

00:00:41   this is basically a year almost to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/41">TS</a>]

00:00:45   day of the original episode of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/45">TS</a>]

00:00:48   incomparable and this is indeed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/48">TS</a>]

00:00:50   incomparable number 52 Jason I yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/50">TS</a>]

00:00:54   didn't get us anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/54">TS</a>]

00:00:56   the voice you just heard is one of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/56">TS</a>]

00:00:59   former pod cast members haha damn more'n [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/59">TS</a>]

00:01:04   joins me he was on that first podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/64">TS</a>]

00:01:06   and the other participants were on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/66">TS</a>]

00:01:08   podcast as well Glenn fleischmann [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/68">TS</a>]

00:01:10   welcome back you've made a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/70">TS</a>]

00:01:12   congratulations Thank You [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/72">TS</a>]

00:01:13   congratulations to you for having the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/73">TS</a>]

00:01:15   fortitude to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/75">TS</a>]

00:01:16   yes I quit this podcast is over 1 year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/76">TS</a>]

00:01:22   and we're over and also joining us is as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/82">TS</a>]

00:01:26   he was on Episode one when we didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   have a name for the podcast got Mykelti [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/88">TS</a>]

00:01:29   hi Scott who I am so glad that we are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/89">TS</a>]

00:01:33   the only people that have survived the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/93">TS</a>]

00:01:35   Great incomparable killing yes free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/95">TS</a>]

00:01:38   everyone else is dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/98">TS</a>]

00:01:40   unfortunate by the way don't answer your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/100">TS</a>]

00:01:42   door ding dong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/102">TS</a>]

00:01:46   so in episode one of the incomparable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/106">TS</a>]

00:01:49   will always have Zeppelin's from august [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/109">TS</a>]

00:01:51   twenty-second of 2010 we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/111">TS</a>]

00:01:55   among other things the novel the city in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/115">TS</a>]

00:01:58   the city by China navel and he's back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/118">TS</a>]

00:02:04   because we read embassy town which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/124">TS</a>]

00:02:08   his latest novel we all read it i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/128">TS</a>]

00:02:12   it's fair to say that some of us didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/132">TS</a>]

00:02:16   like it very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/136">TS</a>]

00:02:18   I think that might be more than fair to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/138">TS</a>]

00:02:20   say heaven for fans so this could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/140">TS</a>]

00:02:23   good i will tell you my opinion of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/143">TS</a>]

00:02:26   book but my opinion of the marketing of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/146">TS</a>]

00:02:28   the book is a not too high because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/148">TS</a>]

00:02:31   everywhere i was reading you know I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/151">TS</a>]

00:02:33   a fan of the good old trader as i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/153">TS</a>]

00:02:36   going to call it because I can never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/156">TS</a>]

00:02:37   pronounce last name so i eagerly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/157">TS</a>]

00:02:39   anticipated the book and I would read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/159">TS</a>]

00:02:41   the event [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/161">TS</a>]

00:02:42   and you know marketing copy and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   everywhere it would say space opera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/164">TS</a>]

00:02:48   describe this book as a space opera now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/168">TS</a>]

00:02:51   unless i have no idea what space opera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/171">TS</a>]

00:02:54   means it's actually an opera second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/174">TS</a>]

00:02:57   space if it doesn't feel canarian or the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/177">TS</a>]

00:03:02   marketing people have no idea what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/182">TS</a>]

00:03:03   you're talking about because this in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05   limited understanding of the space opera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07   it generally involves a sweeping story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/187">TS</a>]

00:03:10   large battles and things you know a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/190">TS</a>]

00:03:13   grand stage and some something big in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/193">TS</a>]

00:03:17   this store this novel can be described [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/197">TS</a>]

00:03:19   as many things but to paraphrase I I no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/199">TS</a>]

00:03:24   space operas and you embassy town are no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/204">TS</a>]

00:03:27   space opera know it might be a planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/207">TS</a>]

00:03:29   opera i mean i think that how that if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/209">TS</a>]

00:03:32   you think about all the events that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/212">TS</a>]

00:03:34   occur in embassy town I was telling my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/214">TS</a>]

00:03:38   wife this it's a I it feels like in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/218">TS</a>]

00:03:42   ways this could have been four novels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44   because the events on the surface of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46   that planet it's like let's demolish an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/226">TS</a>]

00:03:48   entire culture and then watch as it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/228">TS</a>]

00:03:50   really sort of rebuilt there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/230">TS</a>]

00:03:53   that happens that completely changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   what happens on that planet but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/235">TS</a>]

00:03:57   certainly not like what I would think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/237">TS</a>]

00:03:59   as a space opera which is this sweeping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   scope of many planets and battles and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/241">TS</a>]

00:04:03   space and things and it's really there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/243">TS</a>]

00:04:06   there are some scenes in the hyperspace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/246">TS</a>]

00:04:09   kind of thing called the Emperor and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/249">TS</a>]

00:04:12   then everything else is on this planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/252">TS</a>]

00:04:13   where embassy damn is there's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/253">TS</a>]

00:04:15   there's like five minutes of space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/255">TS</a>]

00:04:17   travel instead of being a space up it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/257">TS</a>]

00:04:19   more like a space that cave and the bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/259">TS</a>]

00:04:21   seeds song i think i don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/261">TS</a>]

00:04:23   means but I agree so let's start back at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25   the beginning here which is embassy town [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27   is a novel that set in kind of multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/267">TS</a>]

00:04:31   time frames and then the multiple time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/271">TS</a>]

00:04:33   frames shift [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/273">TS</a>]

00:04:34   it's about it's a hit well sir the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/274">TS</a>]

00:04:37   governing image is very tolerant of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/277">TS</a>]

00:04:38   mitotic all the way the way it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/278">TS</a>]

00:04:41   oh you're right you're right in front of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/281">TS</a>]

00:04:43   the protagonist is a woman named APIs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/283">TS</a>]

00:04:47   she's a she's a native basically of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/287">TS</a>]

00:04:51   planet which is a has this alien race [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/291">TS</a>]

00:04:54   that lives on it but there is a place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/294">TS</a>]

00:04:56   we're all of the ambassadors and staff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/296">TS</a>]

00:04:59   who are not from this alien race live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/299">TS</a>]

00:05:01   and it's an air bubble of breathable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/301">TS</a>]

00:05:04   atmosphere and that is called embassy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/304">TS</a>]

00:05:07   town so it is the place where all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09   aliens live including humans on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/309">TS</a>]

00:05:11   planet and she has a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/311">TS</a>]

00:05:13   coming-of-age thing or she's a kid on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/313">TS</a>]

00:05:15   planet and then she learns to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/315">TS</a>]

00:05:17   emperor pilot which means that she can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/317">TS</a>]

00:05:20   travel through the stars and then at a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   later time she comes back to the planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   and then the fun begins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/324">TS</a>]

00:05:27   because then there are quick crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29   imaginations with ambassadors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31   there's a thing called a my ab which you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/331">TS</a>]

00:05:33   find us a message in a bottle and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/333">TS</a>]

00:05:36   in case you thought Jason might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/336">TS</a>]

00:05:38   applying that you go to like 200 pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/338">TS</a>]

00:05:40   before the fun kicks in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/340">TS</a>]

00:05:41   he's totally right I'm not even sure it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/341">TS</a>]

00:05:45   kicks in addition underneath [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/345">TS</a>]

00:05:46   oh and the the host the aliens are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/346">TS</a>]

00:05:50   called the hosts na they don't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/350">TS</a>]

00:05:52   can't understand when people talk but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/352">TS</a>]

00:05:55   they can understand when these weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/355">TS</a>]

00:05:56   kind of like mentally bonded pairs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/356">TS</a>]

00:05:59   people speak simultaneously because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/359">TS</a>]

00:06:01   hosts have two mouths and it's it's wild [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/361">TS</a>]

00:06:04   it is a wacky very original i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/364">TS</a>]

00:06:09   premise but yet it is not exactly a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/369">TS</a>]

00:06:13   quick read to get to the to get to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/373">TS</a>]

00:06:16   big fight seem well I ended it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/376">TS</a>]

00:06:19   even important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/379">TS</a>]

00:06:19   I I don't even know that how important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21   that is it's just what strikes me a you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/381">TS</a>]

00:06:24   know what strikes me here is what you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/384">TS</a>]

00:06:25   said about there being you know several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/385">TS</a>]

00:06:27   different books in here and I think it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/387">TS</a>]

00:06:28   true and I think all of them gets short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   shrift like none of them are fully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/390">TS</a>]

00:06:32   fleshed-out and none of them are it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/392">TS</a>]

00:06:35   like everytime you think okay this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/395">TS</a>]

00:06:37   getting someplace interesting like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/397">TS</a>]

00:06:39   whole the rug gets pulled out from under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/399">TS</a>]

00:06:41   you and you start all over again and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43   this is tough because he really enjoys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/403">TS</a>]

00:06:45   dumping people not just sort of in media [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/405">TS</a>]

00:06:48   res like in the middle of things but in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/408">TS</a>]

00:06:50   terms of like in the middle of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/410">TS</a>]

00:06:52   extremely complex environments right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54   where you don't necessarily have any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/414">TS</a>]

00:06:56   idea what's going on like how long does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/416">TS</a>]

00:06:59   it take you to figure out sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/419">TS</a>]

00:07:02   central premises of this world and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/422">TS</a>]

00:07:04   society there in and then no sooner you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/424">TS</a>]

00:07:07   sort of start to get a handle on that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/427">TS</a>]

00:07:08   then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/428">TS</a>]

00:07:08   you're sucked away into this you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/428">TS</a>]

00:07:10   into the her careers and your pilot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/430">TS</a>]

00:07:12   which doesn't last very long and doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/432">TS</a>]

00:07:15   really seem to have a huge bearing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/435">TS</a>]

00:07:18   the rest of the book you know i will say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   i want one of the things I appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/440">TS</a>]

00:07:23   about me avail and I appreciate about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/443">TS</a>]

00:07:24   this book is a little bit like an FM by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/444">TS</a>]

00:07:28   neal stephenson he he he's gonna set you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/448">TS</a>]

00:07:32   down in the world and you gotta figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/452">TS</a>]

00:07:34   it out and I'll i like that but i liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/454">TS</a>]

00:07:36   i like to end them and I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/456">TS</a>]

00:07:40   the major difference haha no no I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/460">TS</a>]

00:07:41   Stevenson's was better at that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/461">TS</a>]

00:07:43   meetville the thing that bothers me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/463">TS</a>]

00:07:44   about most of his books and I've read I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/464">TS</a>]

00:07:46   read all three of the which McCullen new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/466">TS</a>]

00:07:49   crow bazan or whatever the pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   district station that's a that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/471">TS</a>]

00:07:52   made-up word crocus on I read all three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/472">TS</a>]

00:07:55   of those it's not where I don't is it I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   you know he'd that see that's my point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/477">TS</a>]

00:07:59   he's just spend so much time saying like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/479">TS</a>]

00:08:02   his whole books are isn't this weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/482">TS</a>]

00:08:03   isn't that weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/483">TS</a>]

00:08:04   this guy's got bug head is not weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/484">TS</a>]

00:08:06   it's like it's drawers so much attention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08   to itself that it feels like hitting me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/488">TS</a>]

00:08:11   over the head with a hammer about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/491">TS</a>]

00:08:13   weirdness and it's like it's hard for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/493">TS</a>]

00:08:15   to ever get engaged because I don't I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/495">TS</a>]

00:08:19   feel like I'm constantly being reminded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/499">TS</a>]

00:08:21   isn't this weird but but your point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/501">TS</a>]

00:08:23   you just made was that you know you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/503">TS</a>]

00:08:25   to figure out what the rules of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27   world are and what that some of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29   words mean and and that that didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   bother me i think you I think your point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/511">TS</a>]

00:08:33   is much more valid that as you figure it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/513">TS</a>]

00:08:36   out suddenly we are jerked away to yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/516">TS</a>]

00:08:40   another angle so she's growing up in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   coming of age in this weird place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/522">TS</a>]

00:08:44   no now she's a pilot and she's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/524">TS</a>]

00:08:45   learn about this weird hyperspace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/525">TS</a>]

00:08:47   topography multi-dimensional topography [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/527">TS</a>]

00:08:49   okay okay i'm starting to get that it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/529">TS</a>]

00:08:51   mr which is the timeless always of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/531">TS</a>]

00:08:53   hyperspace and it's the ad pops or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/533">TS</a>]

00:08:55   whatever the german word is that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/535">TS</a>]

00:08:57   use that's the ok i got i'm starting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/537">TS</a>]

00:08:59   get that bono now she's back and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/539">TS</a>]

00:09:01   not in the space anymore she's back on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   the planet again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/543">TS</a>]

00:09:04   don't you think that's a device though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/544">TS</a>]

00:09:05   it but it strikes me as a random [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/545">TS</a>]

00:09:06   vomiting of ideas like rather than any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/546">TS</a>]

00:09:09   fully-formed coherent narrative think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/549">TS</a>]

00:09:11   vomiting is ordered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13   I wouldn't say random vomiting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/553">TS</a>]

00:09:15   say a procession of that i find this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/555">TS</a>]

00:09:17   emblematic and sort of you know and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   makes all the stuff that he writes to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21   certain extent in the sole exception of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23   my experience being the city in the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   which is very very strange but I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/565">TS</a>]

00:09:28   enjoyed and thought was well constructed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30   and well-crafted as a story in a way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   that this was not there is a main line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   plot in the city and the city is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/574">TS</a>]

00:09:35   you go from one end to the other and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37   there's actually a resolution and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38   sort of hitting way points along the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/578">TS</a>]

00:09:40   there's a structure that makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/580">TS</a>]

00:09:42   right yeah which is true of most I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/582">TS</a>]

00:09:44   it's true of a pretty do Street Station [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   has got its you know it's a rambling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   thing but it's not pick her ass great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50   this is this is picturesque this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/590">TS</a>]

00:09:52   definition of picturesque is that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/592">TS</a>]

00:09:53   walking along and you get to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/593">TS</a>]

00:09:54   destination when you get there is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/594">TS</a>]

00:09:56   resolution the story it's like oh and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/596">TS</a>]

00:09:57   here's the next story and let's go on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/597">TS</a>]

00:09:59   and so forth so you don't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/599">TS</a>]

00:10:00   they're he may have intended an arc but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/600">TS</a>]

00:10:03   there is no sense of story arc from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   through the others go through line for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07   this it reads like five stories that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/607">TS</a>]

00:10:10   have similar things in common [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/610">TS</a>]

00:10:11   the problem with that is that in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13   picaresque what keeps you going from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/613">TS</a>]

00:10:14   story to story is that the characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16   you know usually are engaging right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18   it's also not but I I mean I honestly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/618">TS</a>]

00:10:22   found myself not really understanding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/622">TS</a>]

00:10:24   understanding or caring about Elvis well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/624">TS</a>]

00:10:29   I don't understand the whole obsession [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/629">TS</a>]

00:10:30   with establishing that the man she's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   love with they don't have sex and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/632">TS</a>]

00:10:34   they get married like there's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/634">TS</a>]

00:10:36   number of times that you know I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/636">TS</a>]

00:10:39   thought he was gonna make a point about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/639">TS</a>]

00:10:40   like interspecies things or the nature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/640">TS</a>]

00:10:43   of whatever it's like we try to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45   things in bed and didn't work out but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/645">TS</a>]

00:10:46   then we stuck around he was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/646">TS</a>]

00:10:48   weirdo he was obsessed with language and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50   so we got married like why i don't quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52   what's the point of that like where does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/652">TS</a>]

00:10:54   that fit in is very off pit that's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/654">TS</a>]

00:10:56   the weirdness right like is is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58   different from the way you do things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/658">TS</a>]

00:10:59   where you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/659">TS</a>]

00:11:00   yes in this world marriage means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/660">TS</a>]

00:11:02   something different it's a special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/662">TS</a>]

00:11:03   contract that can mean many things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/663">TS</a>]

00:11:04   including sex or not haha about that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/664">TS</a>]

00:11:07   let's move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/667">TS</a>]

00:11:08   yeah I challenge your preconceived [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/668">TS</a>]

00:11:09   notions check that's yes that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/669">TS</a>]

00:11:15   the onion version of this story is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/675">TS</a>]

00:11:16   Challenger consumers with this and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   and i have a friend and she's a she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/678">TS</a>]

00:11:20   robot or a target on our computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/680">TS</a>]

00:11:22   program with wheels tides what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/682">TS</a>]

00:11:23   deal with her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/683">TS</a>]

00:11:24   what was the point of that I don't even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/684">TS</a>]

00:11:26   stand you okay wait I want to represent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/686">TS</a>]

00:11:30   a counter-narrative to dance narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/690">TS</a>]

00:11:32   which is threatening to overwhelm this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/692">TS</a>]

00:11:33   podcast which is there's a lot of stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/693">TS</a>]

00:11:36   and I quite like there's a lot of great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/696">TS</a>]

00:11:37   ideas i don't think your disagreement [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/697">TS</a>]

00:11:39   that entirely there i mean it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/699">TS</a>]

00:11:41   kind of like you know let's let's say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/701">TS</a>]

00:11:43   maybe i'll open his notebook of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   to write books about it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   rather than then have a compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/707">TS</a>]

00:11:49   character driven narrative and through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/709">TS</a>]

00:11:52   which he can tell a story of a world or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/712">TS</a>]

00:11:54   even vice versa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/714">TS</a>]

00:11:55   it was i've got a bunch of stuff here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/715">TS</a>]

00:11:56   that doesn't fit the other books i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58   gonna stick it in there and i will use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/718">TS</a>]

00:11:59   one character to bind it up but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/719">TS</a>]

00:12:01   like the so so I like two parts of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/721">TS</a>]

00:12:03   and some of it is very clever something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/723">TS</a>]

00:12:04   that I found somewhat moving but then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/724">TS</a>]

00:12:07   becomes but this so conventional for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/727">TS</a>]

00:12:11   being so weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/731">TS</a>]

00:12:12   the resolution was really rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/732">TS</a>]

00:12:14   disappointing and i think i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/734">TS</a>]

00:12:16   starts out I me and them suffers from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/736">TS</a>]

00:12:18   this little bit we're by the time you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   realize i talked about atoms that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/740">TS</a>]

00:12:21   rewired my brain like by the time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/741">TS</a>]

00:12:23   figured out enough what's going on to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/743">TS</a>]

00:12:25   actually understand what was being said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/745">TS</a>]

00:12:27   in the narrative I was so far along that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/747">TS</a>]

00:12:29   huge book that I didn't worry about some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/749">TS</a>]

00:12:31   of the plot points and holes whenever it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33   again i feel it's a little weaker in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/753">TS</a>]

00:12:35   this book it's the same thing like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   you're being battered back and forth by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/757">TS</a>]

00:12:38   all these interesting new ideas which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/758">TS</a>]

00:12:40   are very interesting some of which are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/760">TS</a>]

00:12:41   just like whatever and then you're like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43   oh well the story in the end is kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/763">TS</a>]

00:12:45   you know reason wins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/765">TS</a>]

00:12:47   yeah why yeah and there's a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/767">TS</a>]

00:12:50   irrational guy who shoots pou li meaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/770">TS</a>]

00:12:56   and then in some ways he was a more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/776">TS</a>]

00:12:58   interesting character to me i mean if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/778">TS</a>]

00:13:01   you have anybody goes away for like half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/781">TS</a>]

00:13:03   the book and then he comes back and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/783">TS</a>]

00:13:05   like always crazy now every neal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/785">TS</a>]

00:13:06   stephenson book has a character like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/786">TS</a>]

00:13:09   husband becomes strange this novel goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/789">TS</a>]

00:13:12   on they come back in like the fifth that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   you think the book is over and some guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/794">TS</a>]

00:13:17   you haven't seen for like two or three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/797">TS</a>]

00:13:18   acts who is significant like I was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/798">TS</a>]

00:13:20   Raven in the crash and is he's in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/800">TS</a>]

00:13:24   one of his books as this some but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/804">TS</a>]

00:13:26   there's always the the sort of stevenson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/806">TS</a>]

00:13:27   thing in this best books the ones which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/807">TS</a>]

00:13:29   doesn't have to pull out some deus ex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   machina a character who haven't here for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/811">TS</a>]

00:13:32   a while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/812">TS</a>]

00:13:33   who's seven feet tall or whatever don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/813">TS</a>]

00:13:35   ya I'm not that I'm not saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/815">TS</a>]

00:13:36   Stevenson's with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/816">TS</a>]

00:13:37   his flaws but yeah but I'm saying that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/817">TS</a>]

00:13:40   think that's that is a typical thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   this book is you get this this character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44   shows up rather late after having a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/824">TS</a>]

00:13:47   of narrative exposition played around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/827">TS</a>]

00:13:48   with any sort of forgotten but you also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/828">TS</a>]

00:13:50   know he's coming back right because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/830">TS</a>]

00:13:52   totally and for shadow with oh he went [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/832">TS</a>]

00:13:54   off and no one ever saw him again this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/834">TS</a>]

00:13:57   is illusionary doing something so I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/837">TS</a>]

00:14:00   found that kind of transparent as well i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/840">TS</a>]

00:14:02   mean i-i you're right down there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/842">TS</a>]

00:14:04   interesting ideas here i think a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   the language stuff as someone who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   studied linguistics little bit and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/848">TS</a>]

00:14:10   and really found it fascinating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/850">TS</a>]

00:14:12   there's some really interesting stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/852">TS</a>]

00:14:13   there um but it was it was hard to get a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/853">TS</a>]

00:14:16   handle on in a way that it worked for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18   the narrative especially when we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/858">TS</a>]

00:14:20   spent so much of the the earlier book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/860">TS</a>]

00:14:23   Johnson around between all these other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/863">TS</a>]

00:14:25   different i mean for example just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/865">TS</a>]

00:14:27   there's that whole bit when she learned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/867">TS</a>]

00:14:30   you're being apart a pilot about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/870">TS</a>]

00:14:32   wreck right is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/872">TS</a>]

00:14:34   yeah i mean something of this sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36   derelict ship right that that's seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/876">TS</a>]

00:14:39   areas like a warning like half in and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/879">TS</a>]

00:14:40   half out of it and there's not really AI [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/880">TS</a>]

00:14:44   I not sure I really understood what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/884">TS</a>]

00:14:47   point of that was it gets mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/887">TS</a>]

00:14:48   later on too but I I was like oh yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/888">TS</a>]

00:14:51   that thing I think you're supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/891">TS</a>]

00:14:53   feel that this planet is out at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/893">TS</a>]

00:14:55   of the world and that beyond lies the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/895">TS</a>]

00:14:57   great question of these are the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/897">TS</a>]

00:14:59   alien aliens and we don't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/899">TS</a>]

00:15:00   understand them and there's there it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/900">TS</a>]

00:15:03   almost like they got here by accident [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/903">TS</a>]

00:15:04   and and other things have been wrecked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/904">TS</a>]

00:15:06   and beyond here there be dragons we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/906">TS</a>]

00:15:08   don't know what else is out there past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/908">TS</a>]

00:15:10   this point that sounds like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/910">TS</a>]

00:15:11   interesting book i was so right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13   ah yes well I thought I guess I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/913">TS</a>]

00:15:16   it was a little more interesting than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/916">TS</a>]

00:15:17   that i want to talk about the language [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/917">TS</a>]

00:15:18   because i think his he did empty out his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/918">TS</a>]

00:15:22   sort of sci-fi tropes into this book but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/922">TS</a>]

00:15:25   a picture of shape and intro word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/925">TS</a>]

00:15:29   processor the background or foreground [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/929">TS</a>]

00:15:30   tropes and a little bit like an email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/930">TS</a>]

00:15:33   like you get a red pepper flake in at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/933">TS</a>]

00:15:35   the pizza parlor through maker shake it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/935">TS</a>]

00:15:38   in but what this book is really about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/938">TS</a>]

00:15:41   and what he wanted to do was talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/941">TS</a>]

00:15:43   i guess they call it a linguistic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/943">TS</a>]

00:15:47   relativity now back in my comm major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/947">TS</a>]

00:15:49   days it was the sapir-whorf hypothesis [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/949">TS</a>]

00:15:51   is the ID [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/951">TS</a>]

00:15:51   yeah that language and thought are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53   interrelated and that the language you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/953">TS</a>]

00:15:56   use defines how you think and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/956">TS</a>]

00:15:58   what this book is about this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/958">TS</a>]

00:15:59   about a race of aliens who cannot think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/959">TS</a>]

00:16:02   in anything symbolic everything they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/962">TS</a>]

00:16:05   is literal and the advent of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/965">TS</a>]

00:16:08   creatures who speak in non-literal terms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/968">TS</a>]

00:16:12   is a you know there can they're confused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/972">TS</a>]

00:16:15   and and they're trying to figure out how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/975">TS</a>]

00:16:19   to interrelate with humans and it leads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   to all the problems but it also leads to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/981">TS</a>]

00:16:23   the resolution in that once day they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/983">TS</a>]

00:16:27   can't pollute these this alien race they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/987">TS</a>]

00:16:30   can you know the alien race starts to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/990">TS</a>]

00:16:32   learn how to use symbols and in effect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/992">TS</a>]

00:16:34   even before that there's some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/994">TS</a>]

00:16:36   aliens who are trying very hard to lie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/996">TS</a>]

00:16:37   and there's this whole like liars club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/997">TS</a>]

00:16:40   where they're trying very hard to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1000">TS</a>]

00:16:41   things that are counterfactual because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43   they grasp that there is symbology to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:47   had and the whole point of the last part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   of the book i think is is that is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51   the way they change the way they think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:55   is entirely based on changing their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   language into a new language and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   tear down their old culture and bring up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01   this new culture now how interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:02   that is and how even likely it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:05   that you'd have aliens who have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:07   kind of way of thinking i don't know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1027">TS</a>]

00:17:09   i thought it was as again as an old com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:11   major i thought it was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1031">TS</a>]

00:17:12   interesting to have all that talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   similes and she's a simile she has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16   act something out and then they use it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18   and say oh what you like the girl who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20   who is it what she was given and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22   the guy who dies who swam every day so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:25   he's the boy who swam every day and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:27   he dies there like he's the boy swim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1047">TS</a>]

00:17:29   every day but then he died that day they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1049">TS</a>]

00:17:31   have to be that literal with it and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33   thought that was fascinating and how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:35   many seconds for you into the novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1055">TS</a>]

00:17:37   before me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1057">TS</a>]

00:17:38   no military the novel you read that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:39   where you thought Darmok and Jalad at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:42   tonight it's not this it's not the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1062">TS</a>]

00:17:44   it's not the same that you're right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:45   because they're recounting well tonight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1065">TS</a>]

00:17:47   and it's an inverse sort of and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49   the idea here is that these what if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:51   there was a race that can't make symbols [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1071">TS</a>]

00:17:53   that can't think anything but literal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1073">TS</a>]

00:17:55   facts and then basically the humans come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:58   in and completely ruin their entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00   civilization destroy their planet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:03   only out of the rubble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   are they able to kind of have a rebirth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:07   as a erase that can think symbolically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:10   basically we suck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:11   I mean I like that I I really disliked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1091">TS</a>]

00:18:13   the whole trope about like or the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1093">TS</a>]

00:18:17   section about the you-know-who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:19   hey there's this special ambassador who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:22   gets everybody high with his words I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:24   don't know if felt that totally fell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1104">TS</a>]

00:18:27   flat for me maybe just because it felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1107">TS</a>]

00:18:28   like a generic science-fictiony plot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:31   they sort of alluded to the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:33   the zoo this is part of this like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1113">TS</a>]

00:18:34   intrigued by the world that we're sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   of a colony of but it didn't read they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:39   want to sabotage things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1119">TS</a>]

00:18:41   yeah i mean it because that all gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   back loaded into why they're doing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:45   it feels very like very vague and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1125">TS</a>]

00:18:49   you know without purpose sorting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:51   again it's the is the too many you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1131">TS</a>]

00:18:53   not enough space for too many ideas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1133">TS</a>]

00:18:54   problem right i mean if you could do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56   whole story about the kind of a colony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1136">TS</a>]

00:19:00   intrigue among the ambassadors and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:04   fact that this be there so far away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:06   where they're supposed to be what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1146">TS</a>]

00:19:08   they're supposed to be a colony of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:09   they sort of have broken off and the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:12   other government wants to reinforce its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:14   authority over them i mean there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:15   story there right accepted Leslie just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:18   conserve sketched out briefly and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1158">TS</a>]

00:19:20   it sort of well there we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1160">TS</a>]

00:19:22   well let's move on a lot of the China [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:25   Mieville stuff a lot of my problems with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1165">TS</a>]

00:19:26   them can sort of lumped under the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   category of trying too hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:31   I think he just it sometimes is all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:34   his writing reads just like he's trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:35   too hard to impress somebody and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:38   that bothers me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1178">TS</a>]

00:19:39   yeah this is what the city in the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1179">TS</a>]

00:19:41   works so well as it's much more spare it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1181">TS</a>]

00:19:43   backs off because of it's sort of any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:46   for the very first business in the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48   where there is a crime scene and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   out there and the detective looks up at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:52   a season walking across and then he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:53   realizes he has to unsere as she does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:56   have me you're like what is that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1196">TS</a>]

00:19:58   doesn't explain it is not all this stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00   and things just a little off and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:01   slowly you know sort of viruses open as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:04   you get this story is very minimal and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:05   and it works because it's also hooked on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:08   a a plot that your shape or structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1208">TS</a>]

00:20:12   that you understand right there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:13   murder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:14   we've got a detective in like that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:16   Italy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:16   gives you an entry into the plot and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1216">TS</a>]

00:20:19   can deal with the fact that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1219">TS</a>]

00:20:20   weird things going on somewhere else [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:22   because you sort of have that to cling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:23   to until you sort of get your feet and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25   figure out what's going on in this world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:27   whereas in this one if he's if that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:30   structure was ostensibly like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:32   space opera it doesn't really work as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:35   that like to me that structure of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   totally fell flat it's not a space opera [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:39   is based on a space opera Scott you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1239">TS</a>]

00:20:42   didn't tell us what you thought of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1242">TS</a>]

00:20:44   book what can you share a little bit now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:46   can you reveal my trap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48   can you open the envelope and tell us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   what's in it now Scott well other than a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:52   reading the whole book and expecting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:54   some kind of space battle to happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:56   given all my kid and then be very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1256">TS</a>]

00:21:00   disappointed at the end because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:01   were normally when I don't know man in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03   the astronaut suit with the sword and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:04   the laser on the cover was really unfair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06   it was just miss misleading as well put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:10   but that being said besides that myspace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1270">TS</a>]

00:21:14   up for disappointment i was intrigued by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:16   the idea that I had no idea what was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1276">TS</a>]

00:21:20   going on for a large part of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22   and I think that that was I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:25   if this is me projecting onto what kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:27   of media was trying to do but the aliens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1287">TS</a>]

00:21:30   in the book are presented as so alien [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:33   that the people on the planet just can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:36   understand them and so I thought that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:39   was trying to replicate that to have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:41   reader go through that similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:43   experience by just being completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1303">TS</a>]

00:21:46   confused by the book for a vast majority [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:49   of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:50   mission you didn't you didn't get that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52   feeling that that humans were living at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:56   the mercy of these strange aliens and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:59   nobody understands them and if the air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01   bubble goes away tomorrow we all die and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:04   living in that environment like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:06   there's a really evocative seen early on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08   where the kids play how far you get out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10   of the air bubble not and how far you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   can touch out of the air bubble and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:14   like a kid collapse this and almost gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1334">TS</a>]

00:22:16   brain damage to the aliens have to bring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:18   back in its good time you know that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:21   that was that was kind of Awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:23   actually so it was a pocket of that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:25   and I remember early on in the book I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   was reading it and and he talks about I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:29   guess what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:30   the characters is looking at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1350">TS</a>]

00:22:31   cityscape right and he talks about she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:34   looking at these factories and she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:35   like oh and the factories were grazing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:37   and I was like but how do factories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   great is it was like I don't understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:42   what I'm reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:43   did I did I have a stroke is what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:45   understand i had not only specific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:48   stroke reading something in which i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:51   someone more like there's something at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:53   this point especially in science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:55   i think we talked about this auto [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1375">TS</a>]

00:22:56   previous podcast extensive a fantasy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1376">TS</a>]

00:23:00   reader Dan Moore and noted that we were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   impressed about something he said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04   know it's he felt like you before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:06   probably more extensive fantasy wedding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:07   then maybe the rest of us had already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:09   felt it was more commonly expressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1389">TS</a>]

00:23:10   ideas and I think I feel on the syfy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:13   realm you know I've been reading some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:14   the new weird stuff i've been reading a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:16   lot of complications anthologies this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:18   podcast is really provoked me to open up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:21   a lot of very contemporary syfy reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:24   that I think I'd had walked away from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:25   including someone like Ian banks and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   some of the space opera that is out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   there now that truly is space opera and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:32   it's hard to find new ideas you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34   sometimes I'll read stuff this 80 years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:35   old I feel like it has newer ideas than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:37   anyone's exploring today so I respect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   and love the idea that i can open up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:43   book like embassy town and be baffled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:45   and confused and hope that the author is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:47   going to take me a hand at some point or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:48   give me the tools to understand it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:51   and that's sort of a marvelous thing and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:53   that's one of his characteristics is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:54   that you really have to stumble around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:57   his world before you figure out what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:58   is in this case you're like oh well haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1438">TS</a>]

00:24:02   you know that didn't turn out to be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1442">TS</a>]

00:24:03   interesting after all did it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05   I what I just wish I just wish it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:06   more to a better story I guess what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:08   feel like there you can do that I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   you can do that and still tell an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:11   interesting and engaging narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:12   that's really I just don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1452">TS</a>]

00:24:14   happened here but I i don't think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:15   story matters in this book i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:17   and the characters really don't matter i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:19   think what he was doing is is this kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1459">TS</a>]

00:24:22   of rumination also the readers don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:23   matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1463">TS</a>]

00:24:24   well the readers probably don't matter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:25   either way he's at this point the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27   on your desk and just let it sit let me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:28   know but you know there is something to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:32   be said he China Mieville is at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:34   point in his career right where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1474">TS</a>]

00:24:35   basically write whatever he wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:37   so I don't think he really cares what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   people what readers are getting out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   this book I think he just wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:42   to have an exercise and think about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:46   language and a if you look at it in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:50   kind of rubric I think the book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:51   successful if you're looking at it as I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   want to read a entertaining story maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:56   you should not read this book because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:57   the story is the weakest element i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1497">TS</a>]

00:25:00   of the whole thing no it's about it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02   about i did there a lot of ideas there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:04   some beautifully written passages but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:06   but I think that's absolutely i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1506">TS</a>]

00:25:09   enjoyed it but I I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:10   absolutely fair that the the story isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:13   what it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:14   and although I on a grand scale i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   the story could have been much more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:17   interesting than it was which goes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:19   dance point of of how you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1519">TS</a>]

00:25:22   there were more interesting things here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:24   them maybe that I imagined as i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:27   reading it then are actually on the page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1527">TS</a>]

00:25:29   which i don't think i can say he invoked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:31   that I think it was more like I was kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1531">TS</a>]

00:25:33   of anticipating where I thought that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1533">TS</a>]

00:25:35   go and it didn't but but it was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:38   the ideas are really strong the writing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   in in large sections is beautiful and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:44   i have a great time reading it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1544">TS</a>]

00:25:46   the ideas were so weird and but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1546">TS</a>]

00:25:48   wasn't about loving the characters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   it wasn't about having it be a gripping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   you know a gripping overarching story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:55   well maybe it in the little the little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1555">TS</a>]

00:25:57   plot devices they kept going through and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1557">TS</a>]

00:25:59   like for example you've got this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1559">TS</a>]

00:26:00   this strange ambassador again and at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:04   some point they allude to the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:05   one of the guys in that pair you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:08   because this is what they're weird pair [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:09   because they're not like raised from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:10   youth together and they're not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1570">TS</a>]

00:26:12   clones exactly or whatever and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1572">TS</a>]

00:26:15   mentioned that just like this one you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   know one of the two of the pair is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   like oh he's you know empathic or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:20   whatever it's like well that was they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:23   have those were like 400 pages into this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:25   book we we're introducing an entirely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   new plot element felt like but it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:29   sorta gets thrown by the wayside again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1589">TS</a>]

00:26:30   there's just again too much too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:34   that needed to be simplified I think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   needed a a a more discreet thrust of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:40   know what are you talking about rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1600">TS</a>]

00:26:42   than going off every which way an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1602">TS</a>]

00:26:44   article I read about China Mieville said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1604">TS</a>]

00:26:49   that he wants to write a novel in every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1609">TS</a>]

00:26:50   genre and i think he just did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:54   dramatic company [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:56   haha bugs were good but to me this was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:59   his space opera this was his you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:00   sci-fi hard sci-fi novel or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:03   however you want to call it and and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1623">TS</a>]

00:27:05   going hard side and i read that well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07   whatever it is this is his of that haha [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:10   i don't know what this this is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:11   regular syfy novel so this is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1631">TS</a>]

00:27:13   make a joke about him running or western [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:15   and I realized okay i actually redtube [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17   yeah he wrote that was probably a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:18   Western it wasn't very good see so so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:21   wants to write a book and every genre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:22   and this is a sci-fi and i feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:24   because of that that's why we got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26   emptying out his bag of of ideas that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:29   wanted to use in a sci-fi novel and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:32   pour them all in here because some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1652">TS</a>]

00:27:34   writer and perhaps a less ambitious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:35   writer would have taken these ideas and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:38   said i'm going to write a second book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:39   series set in the inverse and it's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:42   to make this is gonna be over here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:45   there's gonna be a thing on the planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:46   is going to be the story of the hosts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1666">TS</a>]

00:27:47   and that'll be you know it's a trilogy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:49   about that and and instead he's like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51   no I'm not gonna do that i'm going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:52   i'm just-just the one let's just stick [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   it all in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:55   yeah that's why I think that's the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:57   it does and there's something there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1677">TS</a>]

00:27:58   something there's something admirable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1678">TS</a>]

00:27:59   undermine yeah expectations I I rude and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1679">TS</a>]

00:28:03   I think they needed try to do that I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1683">TS</a>]

00:28:04   mean i just i think we differ on how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   successful i see you get this was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   book so the question I have for you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   is how do you picture how do you picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:13   the host what do you think they look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:14   like I i can tell you how I picture them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:17   and maybe and maybe scott scott might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:20   the one who actually find this most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:22   interesting i kind of picture them like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1702">TS</a>]

00:28:24   there's a creature in dungeons dragons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:26   called the beholder which is like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:30   floating fleshy or with a big I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   pictured it kind of looking like one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   those but with a pair of wings or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:35   something i really had a very hard time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1715">TS</a>]

00:28:38   because every time he would add another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   feature in there like it seemed like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   they were their descriptions were doled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44   out piecemeal right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:46   it felt to me very much like at various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   points to refer to very feature various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   features and be like whoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:52   these guys have like feet hold on i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1732">TS</a>]

00:28:53   gotta rethink this ok so my cup holder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:56   with feet it was constantly changing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1736">TS</a>]

00:28:59   that was the trouble I had was I that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:00   how I when they were first introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:02   that was how I picture them and then as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1742">TS</a>]

00:29:04   i continue reading through the book they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06   kept adding features that were at odds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:08   with that pic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:08   sure and so I ended up with just like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   have no idea what these look like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   early did they have eyes are they I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:15   win it's like Doc's I stocks that's it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1755">TS</a>]

00:29:18   ok I stock that's a lesser known as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:21   Martha so Scott what did you say what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:26   did you think I I saw them as just big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:30   Beatles I guess which is kind of lame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:31   but that's making that George John it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1771">TS</a>]

00:29:35   a giant Ringo is what I that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:38   terrifying also what about you climb i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1778">TS</a>]

00:29:40   was thinking big bug sort of like more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1780">TS</a>]

00:29:43   like mosquitoes with long proboscis 'as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1783">TS</a>]

00:29:45   and provides I and but like weird flippy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:50   eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1790">TS</a>]

00:29:51   yeah I thought it was a rack from space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:53   coast oh yes I think you're right Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1793">TS</a>]

00:29:56   yeah yeah so Rach the bandleader from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:59   basically that's I pictured a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01   planet of his or acts tearing they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   tearing their hearing limps off in order [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:06   to the other themselves and then they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:07   got war that's a planet i would like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:09   visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1809">TS</a>]

00:30:10   I'm so Rex this is long and and our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:13   protagonist of space go see he could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   have written that would have been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:16   space on I would recognize like that but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1816">TS</a>]

00:30:18   you read this transition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20   damn it you can't actually does he get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:24   you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:24   well that's I've for China Mieville next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:27   book which will be all about done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:28   reading things who know China move wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:31   to write a book about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:33   talk shows that's the next time only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:36   perhaps Scott has written a book yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:38   about 19th century detectives in you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:39   know he has not that it would be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41   weird so I would like his I'm sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:43   noseby operates the book about if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   want something done reading does that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:46   mean that we lose the knowledge of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1846">TS</a>]

00:30:47   the other books is written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   please please please put our sorry that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   was mean that was that was read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   I'm sorry he's he's a large man and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:57   can beat you up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1857">TS</a>]

00:30:58   wait wait he has written a book about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   done reading that's what crackin is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02   about i would see now okay now Glenn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:04   tell me because you were I've had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1864">TS</a>]

00:31:06   cracking on my list for all in fact I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:07   tried to get a library and through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:09   mishap didn't end up with it but I is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11   what was what way what was the mishap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:14   no I i was out of town and it was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16   appeared while I was out of town so i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:17   could not retrieve it in time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:19   now I want to know do you think based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1879">TS</a>]

00:31:21   on my history with trying to meet my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:24   personal history them clearly i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26   city and citi did not care as much for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:28   embassy town do you think i would enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30   cracking I yeah i think what i can tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:33   you for sure i will tell you crack it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:35   has a much it has a it has a crack is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:38   story that has a plot that is like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1898">TS</a>]

00:31:40   railroad train barreling down you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:44   80 miles an hour the track even when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   it's on the siding like you're going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   along the track you like fuckin shaky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:51   going to don't ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:53   look you know so even when it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1913">TS</a>]

00:31:54   ridiculous the plot keeps advancing at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:57   one point there's literally almost a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1917">TS</a>]

00:31:58   speed like thing in which they're in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:00   vehicle with like a guy with a living [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02   tattoo on his back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:03   that's driving like all through London [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:05   and they can't really stop because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:06   they'll be tracked and there's people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   who talk to the earth and its it's crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:12   but it's not shambolic like the embassy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1932">TS</a>]

00:32:15   town where it's all kinds of things all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:16   over the place they don't seem to relate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:17   like cracking is sort of a rollicking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   tail and you gotta stick with it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:21   there's a like consistent things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1941">TS</a>]

00:32:23   happen there is sort of magic there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:26   some crazy stuff and like the one bit i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1946">TS</a>]

00:32:29   love is that the ocean like the actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:32   ocean has an embassy is a house that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:34   like full of water and fish like you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:38   go to it but it's so you have to sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1958">TS</a>]

00:32:40   find it i don't recall Aquaman except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:43   for a temper Aquaman [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:44   it's very unlikely that the crack is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1964">TS</a>]

00:32:47   very cool feeling is very very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:48   lovecraftian in some ways like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1968">TS</a>]

00:32:50   there are horrible giant inconceivably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:54   vast forces in which asked as as in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:58   of the books that was written by mr. [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:00   contribute to the extent of lowes there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1980">TS</a>]

00:33:02   is traveling circuit they got a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1982">TS</a>]

00:33:04   consonants I read one it opened a portal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:06   to another realm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1986">TS</a>]

00:33:07   so I stopped my man I i'm intrigued [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:10   because you know based on the little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:11   that I've read and what you said it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13   sounds it kind of sounds kind of neil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   gaiman ish history it's definitely like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:18   definitely very neil gaiman relative to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:20   other works it's it's I mean there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2000">TS</a>]

00:33:22   there's sort of a there's a there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:25   story there's a story that's told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2005">TS</a>]

00:33:26   beginning to end and there is a deus ex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   machina up again I i do like stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:31   when i read racing amateur stories are a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:34   crutch for the energy managers there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2014">TS</a>]

00:33:37   some supremely evil characters and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   kinda like evil characters that are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   so they're they're happily evil they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:44   like they commit horrible horrible acts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46   for the pure joy of it and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48   something so creepy about that these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50   sort of reminds me actually American [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:51   non-american gods but the sequel of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2031">TS</a>]

00:33:53   Anasazi boys are a nancy-boy anansi boys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:56   anansi boys much more feeling of bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2036">TS</a>]

00:33:59   especially with some of the really evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:02   parts of it but I don't think crack it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   is i think Kraken is a much better book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:06   than embassy town it's not full of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:08   nearly as many ideas and it's clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:09   written to be like part of a series it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:12   got a detective story in it too i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:13   it's really at some level there's these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:14   guys from a sort of supernatural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:16   effective force it's part of London [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   Metropolitan Police Force apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   they were you tell me about this the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:21   more I want to read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:22   good that's maybe i'll definitely know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:24   that the definition of a good book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:26   the thing is it was gonna say like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   it's a it's a it's a rambling story but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:32   it's rollicking so like it runs all over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:34   the place but there's always somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:35   chasing the hero who is sort of not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37   intended to be a hero and there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39   of misdirection but the misdirection was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:41   being played out as opposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:42   frustrating you alright so you can you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:45   can read that while i check out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   london which is his young adult novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:50   that he wrote right before the city in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52   the city which is supposed to be quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:53   good and one a few awards and I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2093">TS</a>]

00:34:55   that's going to be the next up on my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   wife's reading list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2097">TS</a>]

00:34:58   because uh I think she's intrigued by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:00   the idea that he did why a novel that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:02   about this the on its unlocked undone is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2102">TS</a>]

00:35:07   the name of it but it's unloadin it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09   nonsensical mirror version of London [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:11   that these girls travel to so like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:16   city in the city for kids you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:19   know for creating a little extra special [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:21   horror just a little bit of extra floor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2121">TS</a>]

00:35:23   I you know and I feel like I I feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:26   I come on you're away from the sounding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:27   like sending like a hater yes I i do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:29   tonight and yeah I'm not okay well I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2129">TS</a>]

00:35:32   be John Syracuse for this evening i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2132">TS</a>]

00:35:34   think that he is a I don't think he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36   bad writer i mean i think i find his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38   stuff intriguing i just don't I can't I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:42   don't find it enjoyable if that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   distinction to make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:45   i can see that i can say that to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:48   know maybe that's a failing on my part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   but he's challenging he's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52   challenging writer and I think he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:55   very good writer but i'm not sure if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:58   he's everybody's cup of tea right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2158">TS</a>]

00:35:59   i can see that he's piece certainly not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01   everybody's cup of tea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:02   no and I I you know I'm not trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04   save the ground up into class in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06   teacup so strata not my cup is made of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:09   mrs. head there's no tiene something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:14   almost but not entirely unlike t.o.o [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17   moose head full of glass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:18   okay that explains why i don't care for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:21   I I you know I know I don't say that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:24   AI just like you know challenging [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:25   writers or I don't like people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:26   challenge me I mean I quite enjoyed I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:28   think you know an anthem was brought up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:29   as a as a as a corresponding or a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2189">TS</a>]

00:36:32   similar book i really enjoyed an atom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:33   but something about something about me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:36   bills i think you know especially with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2196">TS</a>]

00:36:38   his earlier stuff which i think was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:41   widely liked because it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:44   off-putting in some ways right it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:47   it's kind of an almost Brechtian and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:49   it's sort of like alienation techniques [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2209">TS</a>]

00:36:52   that I i think that that that was you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:54   know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:54   oh look this is a breath of fresh air [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2214">TS</a>]

00:36:56   it's a totally new it's not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2216">TS</a>]

00:36:57   anything before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:58   yeah and and maybe I felt like it was to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00   alienating to the point of not having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:03   any ability to get immersed in it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:05   maybe i just i prefer books that you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07   get a little more immersed in that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:08   have a sort of grounding in and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2228">TS</a>]

00:37:11   like he enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:12   always very much pulling the rugs out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:13   and maybe just a little too much for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15   so we we've had a lot of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17   opinions about embassy town but i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:20   like to know and we can go around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22   horn Iraq from space ghost is my answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24   is that your answer to everything and a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:27   good answer it is i have to be wanted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:28   for lunch one day this is our actual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2248">TS</a>]

00:37:30   space goes like I was great i wish i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:33   praying mantis for lunch let the man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35   asked his question we have scott i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37   a very simple question would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:40   recommend this book to a fellow sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:42   reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:44   wow I i think i recommended it's dan so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2264">TS</a>]

00:37:46   no no I mean I I keep reading despite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:50   the fact that apparently I I don't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   for all of his books keep reading them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:54   and every time it comes up with you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2274">TS</a>]

00:37:55   I'm like I'll put that on my list [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:56   because he's interesting this is I said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58   I'm not necessarily enjoyable but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2278">TS</a>]

00:37:59   interesting but you wouldn't recommend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2279">TS</a>]

00:38:01   it to somebody else I die in fact and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2281">TS</a>]

00:38:03   recommended to some of the other one so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:06   i guess that answers your question did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08   you just smack them how do you anti [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:10   recommend something I said don't read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2290">TS</a>]

00:38:11   this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:12   don't leave this pic and buy this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   from me don't know I keep it I keep it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:18   on my bookshelf is a you know a badge of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   honor or as a warning to the other books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   yes a reminder i recommend this book to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:25   my wife who does not read lots of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27   science fiction and she in fact is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:29   about to finish it so I'm speaking to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:32   you from the living room couch where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   I'll be sleeping for the next we know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:35   yet and apparently she's still your wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:37   continues to be enjoying it at its out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39   of her comfort zone but I think in I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:42   think she appreciates it because it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:45   different and there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2325">TS</a>]

00:38:46   interesting stuff in it but she's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:47   regular sci-fi reader so I think for her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:50   perspective it's kind of interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:51   have the ideas of 18 different sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2331">TS</a>]

00:38:54   novel active 21 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:55   it's like a 0 a brief history of science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:58   fiction it's a variety of fun constant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2338">TS</a>]

00:39:00   concentrated science fiction yeah just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2340">TS</a>]

00:39:02   add water a master's class problems i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:05   would i would recommend this to someone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07   who has a tolerance for reading or and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:11   be involved with our ever read now let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:15   me tell you a good one of my fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:18   this to use the theme of this which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:22   the theme of this novel a my steam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:25   college carlson and my wife Lynn and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   want to dance performance several years [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:28   ago and it was so incomprehensible and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:31   band bad but well-executed we were angry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:34   people were walking out in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:36   singing angrily standing up during this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   performance people running around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:39   stage and playing off to music and we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:42   leaving the theater I don't know how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:43   many times I've ever seen that and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:45   left and we were so angry about and we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:48   talked about it why we were angry about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2388">TS</a>]

00:39:49   how awful it was we hated even was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   well done at the same sort of feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:54   about this novel not quite as angry but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:55   i would recommend somebody who wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2395">TS</a>]

00:39:57   experiment it's a range of emotions on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:00   reading and want to be exposed to a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:01   of interesting ideas but who would you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03   know it's a you might be ultimately [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:04   completely unsatisfied with how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:06   holds up as a novel I i have to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2406">TS</a>]

00:40:09   there's a certain i don't want a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:10   perverse satisfaction but you know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12   is something for me to i feel like often [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   i like at like a lot of stood like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:17   everything to a certain extent like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   very tall I very you know i'll watch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:21   terrible movies and say yeah there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2421">TS</a>]

00:40:22   some redeeming value to that or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   and sometimes I think like maybe I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:26   critical enough so it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   refreshing for me to find a book that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   could read that I Mike did not like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   yeah and and I mean but it's still you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34   know in in ways that made me think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:36   critically about what it was I did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:38   like about it and I think there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2438">TS</a>]

00:40:40   value to that there's a value to reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:42   something that you disagree with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44   yes and thinking well why did I not like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:47   this or what was it about this i did not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   find appealing we all agree he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:52   fabulous mesa he's a very interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2452">TS</a>]

00:40:53   thoughtful writer with an enormous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:55   number i listened as think this is not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   poorly written novel it's just now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59   doesn't pull together in the way that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:00   want something that satisfying to but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:02   and he'll write you know he'll write [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2462">TS</a>]

00:41:04   more that does and does not of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2464">TS</a>]

00:41:06   Scott and I seem to like it so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:10   true i I really did enjoy it but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2470">TS</a>]

00:41:13   wouldn't recommend it to China little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   thing and in fact my wife was like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:17   should i read that every town book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2477">TS</a>]

00:41:18   you said you liked so much i said a reed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20   city in the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:21   yes yeah well that's what I told my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:24   friend whenever we were talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:25   anything he in fact is i think to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2485">TS</a>]

00:41:27   like him more than I did and I said well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:29   you know if you're going to read one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:30   read the city in the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:31   not embassy I'd agree with that even I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:35   who enjoyed embassy town a lot would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:38   agree that the city in the city is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:39   better and it's much more accessible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41   yes yeah well you know what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:44   seeing is a as a new war kind of student [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:48   detective story even though it's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50   strange spin and so it's a little more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:51   recognizable you're marrying a weird the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:54   weirdness with something that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:55   understandable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:56   yeah that's a good combination and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   not the the very language itself is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2518">TS</a>]

00:42:00   fighting you which is helpful some of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:04   is but not so much it seems it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   you feel like you turned your head like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:07   three degrees away from normal as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2527">TS</a>]

00:42:09   opposed to those are right it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:12   it's kind of out of phase but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2532">TS</a>]

00:42:14   actively punching you punching you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2534">TS</a>]

00:42:18   so now it comes time on our podcast for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:20   us to to answer that musical question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:23   what are you reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:24   dan what are you reading I am reading a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2544">TS</a>]

00:42:28   dance with dragons actually because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   really long and it's taken me some time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:31   because i don't get as much opportunity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:33   to read as i would like so the latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2553">TS</a>]

00:42:35   george RR martin book i'm only like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:38   couple hundred pages in I think there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:39   like 800 that is gonna go or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:41   out of desperation lobs it's yeah I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2561">TS</a>]

00:42:45   it's interesting so far although I a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   part of me feels like I'm reading it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   of obligation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:50   I'm waiting for it to pick up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52   problem for me is also that I last read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:54   i read the previous book when it came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:55   out you know six years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   yeah we'll have to have a whole podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:59   on that book i just finished it myself I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:01   i had to go reread you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03   wikipedia recap pages and everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:05   like all right where were we in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:07   massive story it's like people keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:09   trying to convince me that the after [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:11   robert jordan passed away the guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:13   took over writing wheel times like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   those books are actually pretty good i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:16   like yeah but I stopped reading like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:17   halfway through that series which means [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:19   there's like four or five books I gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2599">TS</a>]

00:43:20   get through that are that you've already [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:22   admitted to me are basically crap so yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:26   all right enjoy it so far but looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:29   for other interesting things to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   anything else you've read recently I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:32   guess embassy town was the most recent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:33   yet before that i reread a classic the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:38   princess of mars edgar rice burroughs in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:42   preparation for there is a John Carter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2622">TS</a>]

00:43:44   movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2624">TS</a>]

00:43:45   coming out next year i believe yesterday [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47   and I've never write about friday night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:50   lights in space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:52   I had never read any of his stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:55   thought it interesting very reminiscent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   of course of the stuff of that era but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2637">TS</a>]

00:44:00   interesting I i enjoyed it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:04   all right Scott what are you reading uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:07   that is a good question i am reading the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:10   second book in this trilogy of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:13   is called the unincorporated war which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:16   is a sequel to a book called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2656">TS</a>]

00:44:19   unincorporated man and the next book of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21   the trilogy is called the unincorporated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:23   woman who I know they love the word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:27   unincorporated and it's not sure they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:30   are they are they are they anti-business [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:33   they are well it's an interesting that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:36   an interesting question because uh so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:39   points I didn't mean for it to be but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:40   hey i love but sometimes that works out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:44   I so it's set in the future like maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2684">TS</a>]

00:44:47   400 years into the future where it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:51   kind of like a libertarian stream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:53   corporations run the galaxy one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2693">TS</a>]

00:44:56   galaxy but the the star system and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2696">TS</a>]

00:44:58   everyone when you're born you are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:01   incorporated so you have stock you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2701">TS</a>]

00:45:03   a ten i think a hundred thousand shares [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:05   of stock in yourself and upon birth 5% [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:09   of it is given to the government twenty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11   percent of it is given to your parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:12   and then the rest you can sell to on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:16   open market and so people own staff can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18   other people and the the whole system is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:22   based on whoever owns the majority in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:25   you gets to tell you what to do in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2725">TS</a>]

00:45:27   general it's a corporation so they send [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2727">TS</a>]

00:45:29   you off to like Neptune or or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2729">TS</a>]

00:45:31   they want to do with as you do as you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:33   and then so the people in this this time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2733">TS</a>]

00:45:37   period want to earn enough money so they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:40   can have a majority of themselves and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2740">TS</a>]

00:45:42   they can do whatever they want and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2742">TS</a>]

00:45:44   through the in the first chapter of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46   unincorporated man there's a tunnel and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:49   there's this guy digging in this tunnel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:50   because that's his job because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   tunnel company tumbling company owns hit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:54   the majority of his stock and it comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:56   across this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:57   a black cube but he doesn't know what it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2757">TS</a>]

00:46:01   is and turns out it's a cryogenic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   suspension to a thing and inside is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:07   justin cord who is the unincorporated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:10   man he's from 350 years ago he comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2770">TS</a>]

00:46:13   into the system and he said he was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:16   billionaire and so he makes some trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2776">TS</a>]

00:46:18   and and hilarity ensues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:22   all right there m and sequel will be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:26   unincorporated city limits explain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:29   enjoyed the the unincorporated dog to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:33   that's the kids but the unincorporated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2793">TS</a>]

00:46:35   hey lyst rated man that's right see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2795">TS</a>]

00:46:38   spots incorporate no see splice site [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:42   paper add cilantro and a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:44   recreation i'm holding off the limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:46   liability man myself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2806">TS</a>]

00:46:48   excellent but you it's good glad what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:52   are you reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:53   what am I reading I can i mentioned a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2813">TS</a>]

00:46:55   comic book series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:56   yes know that reading I'm yeah I'm a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2816">TS</a>]

00:46:58   little bit behind insurance but it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:00   reading I've been sort of following the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:02   whole wheat on the podcast on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:05   darkest night by this day decent comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:08   arc green later and we happen real and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:11   over with discuss I kind of fell into it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:13   by getting some bound anthologies of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:17   thought you already told us this one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:18   have you already mentioned this in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2838">TS</a>]

00:47:20   another podcast this is a repeat when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:22   just tightening I couldn't see how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2842">TS</a>]

00:47:24   you're still realize 300 terrorists go I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2844">TS</a>]

00:47:27   don't blackest night was all collected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2847">TS</a>]

00:47:29   and I read it and thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:29   slightly incomprehensible that sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2849">TS</a>]

00:47:31   interesting and way too many colors the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:33   Green Lantern spectrum nonsense too many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:35   colors right that's my favorite review [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2855">TS</a>]

00:47:38   ever of green lantern my favorite your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   evergreen later too many colors the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42   colors as it is green [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   Oh car apparently I'm an idiot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:48   what are you some sort of unincorporated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50   man haha i've also colorblind american [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:53   martyrs in the DC Comics universe are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55   afraid every color all great to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:58   the Greatland it's emotion so you moved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2878">TS</a>]

00:48:00   on from blackest night two brightest day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2880">TS</a>]

00:48:02   to stay with the series ended i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04   was an april and I've been reading with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   online comics so I don't think all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   way I don't think many other day and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:09   date but they're not that far behind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:11   so i just finished so the 24 comic arc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:14   not sure I even read all of them and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:16   again it's a fascinating comes leaping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2896">TS</a>]

00:48:18   across different books and there's dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:19   man is always like the dead man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:21   character Boston brand the circus circus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:23   aerialist to dies shot and then has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2903">TS</a>]

00:48:27   sort of Rome is a ghost in the quantum [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:29   leap like helping people to wind up you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2909">TS</a>]

00:48:33   know somehow redeem his soul from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:34   Krishna the very interesting weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2914">TS</a>]

00:48:36   little character so he's that he's our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:38   hero antihero and it's a weird little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:41   story arc again it's like I'm not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:43   sure it's sort of Kwazii religious that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2923">TS</a>]

00:48:46   gets very captain planet e and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:49   know DC is now that after this requested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:52   this whole enormous multi-year arc and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:54   their bit blown up the universe with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2934">TS</a>]

00:48:55   with the reboot anyway so i have no idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:57   what's going on the DC Comics universe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2937">TS</a>]

00:48:58   at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2938">TS</a>]

00:48:59   alright but that's what I was reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2939">TS</a>]

00:49:01   but you're reading it well apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03   yeah but after the end of you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   is the summer that everything changes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:06   everyone changes especially as again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:09   uh-huh Jason what are you reading thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:12   you blend thanks for caring lied to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   is it is a comic book haha not so I I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:19   just finished a dance with dragons love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:22   so we can talk about that on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2962">TS</a>]

00:49:23   forthcoming podcast perhaps and I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:27   next to me here in fact i have the wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2967">TS</a>]

00:49:31   man's fear by Patrick Rothfuss which I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:34   was complaining to my wife that it's out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:37   in hardcover and and it's huge and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:39   know it's a thirty-dollar hardcover but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:41   the kindle version is even fifteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2981">TS</a>]

00:49:42   dollars and I thought I don't want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   read it that badly and she said you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:45   you could get it for free at the library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:48   hmm and so doctor today and the library [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:51   copy of the wise man's fear is sitting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2991">TS</a>]

00:49:53   right here so i guess i'm going to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2993">TS</a>]

00:49:54   a paper book guys and other people have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:57   touched it I'm right you should wear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2997">TS</a>]

00:49:59   gloves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/2999">TS</a>]

00:50:00   it's heavy it's very happy I get paper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:02   cuts mostly human skin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3002">TS</a>]

00:50:04   that's right yikes you can't see me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3004">TS</a>]

00:50:08   cringe but i am and the other book that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10   i read recently in July went to the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:14   space shuttle launch in Florida nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3014">TS</a>]

00:50:17   like Florida in July whoo yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3017">TS</a>]

00:50:20   some humidity only and all the way there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3020">TS</a>]

00:50:22   i read a memoir by a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:25   named Mike Mullane who is a shuttle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3025">TS</a>]

00:50:26   astronaut called riding Rockets and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:29   is a very forthright and humorous and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3029">TS</a>]

00:50:35   somewhat dirty memoir of what it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3035">TS</a>]

00:50:39   like to be a space shuttle uh to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:42   Space Shuttle astronaut including how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:44   he's very open about the fact that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46   was he and several of his fellow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   athletes astronauts were sexist pigs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:52   the first group of women astronauts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:55   how in the end the women gave as good as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:58   they got and and educated many of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   arrested development astronauts about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:04   what it was like to work with women in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   professional environment so that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:07   there's some good stuff in there last of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3067">TS</a>]

00:51:09   about challenger because the the group [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:12   of astronauts that he trained with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   included the Challenger astronauts and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:17   its really really great story a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3077">TS</a>]

00:51:20   fun mayara our friend and co-worker [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:23   shall we McFarland actually recommended [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:25   it to me and it's a quite good so riding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:27   Rockets by Mike Mullane was my little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:29   shot of nonfiction in amidst the dragons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3089">TS</a>]

00:51:32   and and aliens that look like zorak from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3092">TS</a>]

00:51:36   space ghost I i also read that astronaut [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3096">TS</a>]

00:51:38   book even even when you read nonfiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   into that space [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:41   exactly it's good stick to what you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:45   that's what I'm trying I'm trying to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3105">TS</a>]

00:51:46   well-rounded and completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   one-dimensional way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:49   are there any Zeppelin's anybody read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3109">TS</a>]

00:51:51   anything with the Zeppelin's in it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3111">TS</a>]

00:51:52   mmm-no i started watching Rocketeer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:55   night i was just wondering like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3115">TS</a>]

00:51:57   applets I was recently in a few words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3117">TS</a>]

00:52:00   that 1i was in a giant three regional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3120">TS</a>]

00:52:02   had is set up 10 have original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3122">TS</a>]

00:52:05   hand-drawn pictures of eight dirigible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3125">TS</a>]

00:52:07   stored inside during world war 2i i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3127">TS</a>]

00:52:10   i was in the same digital hanger when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:13   you were i know a lot of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:15   no we're different times in total luck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17   or again I was watching you like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:21   with three of its scary no knockers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:24   listening to some words that 1i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:27   literally the future Zeppelin stalkers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:29   will be a good name for baby only thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3149">TS</a>]

00:52:30   that I am the only event only thing I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3150">TS</a>]

00:52:32   came home from comic-con with that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34   paid for not sort of the here happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:37   have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:37   great piece of crap is that contagious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:39   disease right now but it was very now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:42   the other you have the coldest free is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   poster from a comic book of a schematic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:48   of a Zeppelin actually have an airship a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:51   rigid airship and I thought I walked up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3171">TS</a>]

00:52:53   to the guy and I said I find your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   illustrations of Zeppelin's intriguing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   which is the first time I've ever said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:58   that to anybody but not the latter worst [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3178">TS</a>]

00:53:01   worst pickup line everything he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:04   tell me more so I bought Zeppelin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:07   picture for five dollars and buy dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:10   that sheep that's why I know what's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:12   for a Zeppelin picture those could go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3192">TS</a>]

00:53:15   out of there usually go for licensed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:16   dollars six dollars [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18   yeah Florida comic-con are you now going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:21   to try and build your own Zeppelin she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:24   started using that as a model yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26   exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:26   using the comic-book schematic as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28   model i will build my own personal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   Zeppelin for actually my idea is that um [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:34   what you do is you work a little like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:36   mini Zeppelin airbag thing into the roof [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3216">TS</a>]

00:53:38   of your car and then when you're stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3218">TS</a>]

00:53:39   in traffic you present but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:41   inspector gadget and press the button it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   inflates you rise up above the traffic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45   you turbofan pops out the back to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47   over the traffic jam back down on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49   deflate and go that's just great until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:52   everybody's that's my invention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3232">TS</a>]

00:53:54   how do you like and what do you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3234">TS</a>]

00:53:55   sirs we've got commercial sign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3235">TS</a>]

00:54:01   yeah wars up so in the next year we need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3241">TS</a>]

00:54:04   to make sure we read a book with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:05   Zeppelin's and it should be at least [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3245">TS</a>]

00:54:06   twenty percent more simply will always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:09   have that this is the longest I've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:10   been in a book club by the way really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3250">TS</a>]

00:54:14   this is the only book overwritten it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   whole year and we occasionally don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:17   read the same things and other times we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:19   do but so it's an odd book club is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3259">TS</a>]

00:54:22   odd book I don't think Oprah would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3262">TS</a>]

00:54:25   approve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3265">TS</a>]

00:54:26   I never thought about this book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:27   before he/she called the book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:30   everytime everytime when how many of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3270">TS</a>]

00:54:34   these have you been on it accidentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   at the book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:37   it was all of an oversight which was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   part that got away from you the book at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:41   the club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3281">TS</a>]

00:54:43   this podcast is over thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:45   listening thanks Scott Mykelti Glenn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3285">TS</a>]

00:54:47   Fleischmann and angry and until next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:51   time when perhaps we will blend will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3291">TS</a>]

00:54:53   realize he's in a book club done until [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:57   value this is jason self being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   comfortable book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:01   sign it off wait a second this is a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:04   club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3304">TS</a>]

00:55:10   [Music] [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:22   recording already recording recording [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3322">TS</a>]

00:55:26   tall going and I were synchronized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:29   podcast it's um yeah there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3329">TS</a>]

00:55:32   tiny little bits in German the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3332">TS</a>]

00:55:33   until he forgets to use them anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:35   about but you do you you just summarize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3335">TS</a>]

00:55:39   a message on every town they don't use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41   it its back and wherever she trained to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:43   be a mi pilot that's the German whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:46   reminds me there's a great bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48   outside ok we should start anyway I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:50   don't have a quarter mine remind me to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3350">TS</a>]

00:55:53   bring up the whole thing about required [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:55   but the up-and-up it's a famous bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57   recording out at famous bit of a of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3357">TS</a>]

00:56:00   more like precursor or science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   mention ok not recording this is all off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:08   the record right all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:11   my lawyers have advised me not to record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3371">TS</a>]

00:56:14   oh dear well your yes if you try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3374">TS</a>]

00:56:18   record me my voice want my daughters to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3378">TS</a>]

00:56:20   advise me never to repair this podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   again I'm an audio vampire you just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24   don't listen to the lawyers to you can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:26   do I think we lost Scott guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3386">TS</a>]

00:56:28   yeah yeah I got to bring him back he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3388">TS</a>]

00:56:31   called didn't mean to interrupt the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:33   threadbare calls I mean I suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3393">TS</a>]

00:56:35   noticed we were we were down a man down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:36   a man perhaps he answer his door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   unwisely he's in the Emperor he didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:41   answer his door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:42   I did I am dead I don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:44   happened is frustrating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:45   did you rip off your your your hearing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3405">TS</a>]

00:56:49   limbs up all i'm about to rip off some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:54   hearing limbs did you guys catch the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:57   dawn of the dead reference in their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:58   other one last thing you would ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3418">TS</a>]

00:57:02   expect in a china mieville novel is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:05   reference to George Romero's dawn of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07   dead that in this highfalutin novel they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:10   were watching basically a george [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3430">TS</a>]

00:57:11   romero's zombie movie film festival as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:14   they prepared for death and that little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:16   bit would I will say if you want to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:18   a zombie book read this book instead of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:20   feed ya niggas out of hand wound for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:24   that well but the the guys after they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3444">TS</a>]

00:57:26   rip off their little like your stocks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3446">TS</a>]

00:57:27   they're kind of like zombies aren't they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   sort of very rational zombies though way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:32   better feed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:33   yeah I yes wow yeah that's the book i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:36   wouldn't want to I will maybe I do want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3456">TS</a>]

00:57:38   to read it I haven't figured out yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:40   I would much up speed and and uses it to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3460">TS</a>]

00:57:43   grow things in your back yard line 8 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3463">TS</a>]

00:57:46   while eating the seeds happy about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:49   alright let's not let's not advocate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:51   destruction of books and well maybe a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:55   little bit of the library book you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:57   should return to your library that's if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:59   you share and recommend them if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:00   purchase the perhaps you should also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:02   return it to your library that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:04   confuse everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3484">TS</a>]

00:58:05   no don't do that and if it's on your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07   kindle do not throw away your kindle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:08   just delete the bullet didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:10   descended to scott he'll take it from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:12   here before you said you're kidding i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3492">TS</a>]

00:58:14   had a decent this dress stamped envelope [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:15   to spot at the kindle whisper he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   talk to it and get it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   click off the right I know he is loaded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   on you but it's ok it's ok there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:24   other books out there people will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:25   loaded on your forever huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:28   so come on back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:31   it's ok we're all okay it's got his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:34   finger hovering over the permanent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:36   destruction button in its firmware gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:40   do it it's gonna jump in the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3520">TS</a>]

00:58:41   called out under the left 420 goon books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:46   think this is taking on a very strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:50   it is really uncomfortable i can name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:55   that we were are you reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:58   whoever jingle and no we don't we just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00   have dan and I singing it badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   separation totally different melody yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:05   okay yeah that's this is not a MTG [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:08   podcast it's only been a year by the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3548">TS</a>]

00:59:10   of year to we'll all be dead but little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3550">TS</a>]

00:59:13   jingle don't answer the don't answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15   your donated for the door entry door to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:17   the holder recording this recording is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3557">TS</a>]

00:59:24   over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMa5f73I/3564">TS</a>]