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00:00:23 ◼   ► welcome back everybody to the [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► uncomfortable on your host Jason Snell [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► and here we go we're going to talk about [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► know back in the early days of the [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► uncomfortable what we often did was talk [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► about Billy broad broad topics and then [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► over the years we've realized we need to [TS]

00:00:38 ◼   ► focus in a little bit because there's a [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► lot of episodes you can't you can't stay [TS]

00:00:41 ◼   ► abroad forever you're gonna get detailed [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► but it's a little bit of a throwback in [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► this one because we're gonna be talking [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► about the x-men and you ask yourself [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► what do you mean Jason the demon the [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► x-men movies do you mean particular runs [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► of the x-men you the graphic novel from [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► the eighties or or the the you know the [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► plastic burn claremont era or or the [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► original x-men that Stanley did with I [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► don't even remember was that car jack [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► kirby was that I don't know it doesn't [TS]

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00:01:05 ◼   ► the answer is yes we're gonna talk about [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► the x-men that's what i said the x-men [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► that's it that's it [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► this is an overview about the x-men [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► joining me to talk about all things [TS]

00:01:14 ◼   ► mutant e.r.a find a panel of people [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► Monty actually is out there hello Monty [TS]

00:01:19 ◼   ► hello Jason I i'm scanning with cerebro [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► and I detect a very powerful mutant it's [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► lisa Schmeisser hello very careful yes [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► that's my favorite line from I think [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► it's the first x-men movie yes where I [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► tried to make that into a US mean but [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► nobody else wanted to join to it was not [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► me it was like the year 2000 means [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► really quite across the internet yet i [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► just tried to make the other thing that [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► nobody would join me and saying all he's [TS]

00:01:45 ◼   ► a very powerful mutant but I don't want [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► you and that's right well you know who [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► else is a powerful mutant it's Merlin [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► Mann hi Marilyn [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► hi and then unit circus I was midnight [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► crawler any of our region and our our [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► comrade from no i'm not i would why am I [TS]

00:02:05 ◼   ► going into a colossal thing I don't know [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► also joining us for her second time in [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► the uncomfortable it's only worker hello [TS]

00:02:09 ◼   ► hello [TS]

00:02:12 ◼   ► so the x-men I just wanted to do so also [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► i should say there's a new x-men movie [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► out as we record this and it's not this [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► episode is not about that either because [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► in my in my continuing attempts to [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► frustrate fans who want to talk about [TS]

00:02:24 ◼   ► our recent release motion pictures I [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► instead go you know I swerve and instead [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► of batman vs superman we talk about the [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► batman animated series instead of x-men [TS]

00:02:32 ◼   ► apocalypse we talk about everything but [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► Xmen apocalypse basically so [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► what I i want to go around and ask [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► everybody first just sort of what their [TS]

00:02:41 ◼   ► personal histories with the x-men you [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► know where how did you discover them and [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► and and and maybe how you know what what [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► what resonated with you what was the [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► thing that really struck you when you [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► when you discovered about these uh these [TS]

00:02:53 ◼   ► Marvel Comics superheroes and there are [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► so many so I'm sure there will be some [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► some right here least one we start with [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► you what what would a what how do you [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► discover the x-men and how do they [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► resonate with you it was entirely [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► serendipitous it was nineteen [TS]

00:03:06 ◼   ► eighty-three my mom let my brother and I [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► each pick something up from a drugstore [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► comic book rack before a road trip and I [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► picked the uncanny x-men annual number 5 [TS]

00:03:19 ◼   ► titled lubuntu yes and it's a crossover [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► the Fantastic Four and the reason i [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► picked it as a 5th grader was because I [TS]

00:03:28 ◼   ► had seen the nineteen sixties version of [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► Fantastic Four before and I always kind [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► of liked both Sue Storm and dr. to but I [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► was like well I don't know the Fantastic [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► Four let's see what else is going on and [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► I i read that issue and what I didn't [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► realize at the time was well actually I [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► did realize was it was pretty quietly [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► radical because you know as a group as a [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► little girl growing up with things like [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► stable even star wars or the Justice [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► League I was used to the formula for any [TS]

00:04:00 ◼   ► sort of ensemble being all of these [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► dudes plus one of the girl and in [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► uncanny x-men annual number five the [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► team was led by a woman by storm and [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► there was somebody you know who is a [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► team very young teenager kitty pryde now [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► is revelation as well and Sue Storm is [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► part of the team and Sue Storm becomes [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► part of the team and the menus on the [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► team are listening to the women and [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► doing what they say and it's storm and [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► Sue who come up with the plan to rescue [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► the rest of the Fantastic Four from the [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► bedroom for these these evil lizard like [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► people and you know professor at their [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► gets a little side action with the [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► laundry the interest of the Empire and [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► it was such a radical thing to see this [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► this mix of people of all ages and [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► ethnicities and genders working together [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► and i love that comic book I read it [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► over and over [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► over and over again until it fell apart [TS]

00:04:52 ◼   ► and then i discovered the new mutants [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► and that was pretty much my full bore [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► bore introduction to the x men in [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► general and that the the Nubians are [TS]

00:05:02 ◼   ► pretty much my flagship book and it's [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► from there the kind of spread sprung [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► into other books other plot lines but [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► didn't the Newton's are always when I [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► return to again and again I Merlin what [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► about you what's your x-men relationship [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► my best friend when I was a kid I loved [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► all things nerdy stuff that like it's [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► kind of normal like now he was a weirdo [TS]

00:05:24 ◼   ► and he loved Lord of the Rings I mean [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► all the talking books and especially [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► loved x-men and so I knew about he was [TS]

00:05:33 ◼   ► just here I couldn't stop talking about [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► it so I knew about all these characters [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► i read a little of it didn't get super [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► into it I was that's never really stuck [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► with me although I like the pictures I [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► didn't follow the stories in [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► flashforward many years I on windows [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► have some kind of midlife crisis and for [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► some reason from am I went to amazon i [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► picked up the big omnibus of uncanny [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► x-men starting with giant-size x-men and [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► you know it probably i started reading [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► it and reading with my little kid and I [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► don't know it really i instantly just it [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► came alive and I instantly loved so many [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► of these characters and and sort of like [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► Lisa said i'ii instantly got the kind of [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► the sort of voce message that this is [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► really this is about discrimination and [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► people who don't fit in and gosh who [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► doesn't feel like that especially [TS]

00:06:20 ◼   ► middle-aged men having a midlife crisis [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► and i'm really into it and that kinda [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► brought me back into comics for the [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► first time since I was a kid and for the [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► last what six years now seven years now [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► it's something that i really come back [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► to enjoying still loving the x-men not [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► reading so much new stuff right now but [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► sometimes you know my kids i will just [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► pick up you know masterworks you know [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► trade of uncanny x-men we'll just we'll [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► just read two or three issues and it [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► still delights me [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► so you did you have no childhood [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► experience with their exposure to the X [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► manner or was really just in recent [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► years [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► well when I was a kid my best friend was [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► a super nerd who's really into stuff [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► like talkin books and he was really into [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► x [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► and other Marvel books i was really more [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► into the thing i like the thing and I [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► like the Hulk like I didn't have the [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► cash layout for thirty-five cents to [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► follow these kinds of things but you [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► know it's funny because as soon as I [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► open that up and started reading the [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► first few pages you see Kurt you know [TS]

00:07:14 ◼   ► getting chased up a building they're [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► setting on fire and i'm just gonna click [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► for me and and so mean that was the [TS]

00:07:20 ◼   ► beginning but all on the way like now I [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► love uncanny x-force you know how I love [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► them just ended like Lisa said that the [TS]

00:07:28 ◼   ► new meat and stuff there's just so much [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► that I get out of this and have all of [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► the big story all the big teams in [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► marvel over the years [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► fantastic 4 into an even greater extent [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► the x-men are two that I can stick with [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► even through some of their Silius times [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► mostly because there's just something [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► special about that team that I can't [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► quite put my finger on and it's the [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► blights me to this time point what's [TS]

00:07:48 ◼   ► your--oh what's your experience with the [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► x-men well um what happened was [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► sometimes I think it was between my [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► freshman and sophomore year of high [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► school I basically fell in with the [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► wrong crowd [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► by which you mean comic book nerds by [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► which I mean comic book nerds yeah um [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► but yeah well I shouldn't say that [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► because I had already dipped a toe into [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► the comic book universe because i had [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► discovered Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► through the cartoon i had gone back and [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► discovered the original Eastman and [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► Laird and so I had actually stepped foot [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► in a comic book store [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► I had you know had that introduction to [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► the world and so through that I sort of [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► knew the existence of these x-men and [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► you know the rest of the Marvel Universe [TS]

00:08:39 ◼   ► but so I sort of hopped between social [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► groups from one year to the next in the [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► in high school and they like met these [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► like my new friend Tony and my new [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► friend Julie and oh hey we're all going [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► over to tony's this weekend and we're [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► bringing a long boxes you want to come [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► I'm like okay sure so I we go over there [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► and it's just there it's just x-men it's [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► just like this room full of loose issues [TS]

00:09:13 ◼   ► of every x-men series and i just sat [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► down and started reading and I was [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► absolutely hooked room sounds like [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► paradise [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► well you would think so except that Tony [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► lived above a funeral home soon so it [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► literally was paradise then he had very [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► quiet neighbors some fascinating place [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► to me but no it really was and we would [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► do that like once a month or so we would [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► all just go over to someone's house and [TS]

00:09:41 ◼   ► and you know make our parents put all of [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► our long boxes in the car and and you [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► know take them over and that was that [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► was it you know i just i started reading [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► as many of their back issues as I could [TS]

00:09:56 ◼   ► so that I didn't have to lay out the [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► cash myself but I would go and buy a few [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► that they didn't have it was like the [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► the three or four of us were all trying [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► to like build the complete collection [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► together and that was about when the [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► second book started up i think it's my [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► understanding is now it's called x-men [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► vol 2 was like in 1991 they just started [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► x-men without the uncanny in front of it [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► and they split into blue and gold teams [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► and now oh there's another title you [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► have to buy and and but I was the the [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► book this sort of became my book was [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► Excalibur because it had because it had [TS]

00:10:35 ◼   ► Kitty Pryde and because it had Kurt and [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► that mean even though I knew [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► intellectually that it was rather silly [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► and some of it was pretty bad [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► two of them i would forgive a lot for [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► the two of them the tools they were sort [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► of my touchstones through the whole [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► thing and that lasted I had a very [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► intense x-men period that ended rather [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► suddenly actually at the end of high [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► school and from then on it's been sort [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► of like I'll go back and check in on [TS]

00:11:11 ◼   ► them every once in awhile it's sort of [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► like getting your college alumni [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► newsletter and and say oh wait she had a [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► kid when did that happen and you know [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► away now he's on the other team and no [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► he's dead [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► oh no he's back again okay [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► so that's been and the movies and you [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► know nostalgia and all of that so that's [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► been sort of my relationship since then [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► money what about you [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► well when I was a tiny child i read some [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► comic books i remember being partial to [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► the flash and richie rich i don't know [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► how i picked those two there and so [TS]

00:11:47 ◼   ► often happens yes I like the combination [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► yeah I don't those were the ones i [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► gravitated to i assume i wanted to run [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► fast and be rich 34 friends then I [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► drifted away from comics but state a [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► huge nerd and then the mid-nineteen [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► eighties I fell in with the right crowd [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► by which i mean comic book readers and [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► role-playing east and the first really [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► long role-playing campaign i got into [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► was this game of teenage mutant ninja [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► turtles and other straightness a [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► palladium RPG that is terribly balanced [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► and i actually knew about it as a great [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► RPG first and then I found out about the [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► comics and checking what issues I had I [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► this looks like it was about mid [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► nineteen eighty-five so again so we both [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► of you encounter teenage mutant ninja [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► turtles which are of course satirizing [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► among other things the x-men the x-men [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► is the mutant part and the teenage party [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► i guess to a certain extent and the [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► ninjas is more of a daredevil kind of [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► reaction but that's so you see [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► discovered Mutant Ninja Turtles before [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► you discovered yeah [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► Marvel mutants because i was going to [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► comic book stores a bunch at that point [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► and then somewhere in mid nineteen [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► eighty-five i found the x-men and [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► absolutely fell in love with it i am [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► unable to tell what my first issue was [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► because I immediately started buying [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► issues back from where I was to find out [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► who these characters were because in [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► those days we do not have Wikipedia for [TS]

00:13:19 ◼   ► cheap reprints but I feel like it was [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► probably around issue 190 because i know [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► for a fact that the x-men team in my [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► head is the correct x-men team which is [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► storm as leader possibly without powers [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► and then we'll bring Nightcrawler road [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► Colossus kitty pryde that sort of thing [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► classic and i bought almost every [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► spin-off book as they came along I was [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► very into New Mutants I tried to get [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► into x factor but those old characters [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► are boring and not my x-men so who cares [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► mm ah i did not get very into power pack [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► although i did have to buy at least two [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► issues because of secret wars crossovers [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► bug ya based in secret wars two [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► crossovers even better but basically the [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► mid-eighties x-men is my entry into [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► mainstream comic books the so for me [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► very very close to Monte an era i would [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► say i discovered i i i really got into [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► comics in the in the in the early to mid [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► eighties I would say and x-men was so at [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► that time x-men had become the most [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► popular marvel comic but there was a [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► real disparity between comic book people [TS]

00:14:39 ◼   ► and the sort of the general public [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► awareness of superheroes write the [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► general public knew about Superman and [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► Batman and from the marble side they say [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► they heard of spider-man and maybe like [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► Captain America but that was about it [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► and meanwhile the top selling comic not [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► just Marvel comic but all of all comics [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► was uncanny x-men and so as a as a kid [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► discovering comics it was this coat [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► surprised that this thing that I've [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► never really even heard of was so [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► popular and I remember the older wiser [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► comic book people being like super into [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► the x-men and me being sort of skeptical [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► of that because i was into my you know [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► spider-man and and in my sci-fi tie-in [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► books like micronauts and rom and things [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► like that so the but i'd say for me was [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► the Paul Smith era which is actually not [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► very long [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► it was in the in like I don't know 83 [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► maybe it was it was a between 165 175 [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► uncanny x-men really is the thing that [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► got me into the x-men that's where I [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► discovered again very similar to Monte [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► you know storms the leader that I think [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► that's in the run there is where Cyclops [TS]

00:15:45 ◼   ► leaves to go off to Alaska for two to [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► meet his girlfriend [TS]

00:15:49 ◼   ► he's a clone of jean grey and they get [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► can maybe get a personality [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► yeah can you know you can buy the brood [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► taken into space all sorts of stuff like [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► that and then and and and then when Paul [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► Smith left uh they replaced him with [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► John Romita Jr who was my favorite [TS]

00:16:06 ◼   ► spider-man artist of of mine and I [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► didn't actually like his x-men but it [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► didn't matter that boy because i was on [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► the New Mutants train as as Lisa [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► mentioned and I got to experience like I [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► inherited the x-men even though this was [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► a I turned over a couple of times line [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► of the x-men as I later found out when I [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► went back and read the burn [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► claremont run which I did not too long [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► after that I inherited the x-men but the [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► New Mutants belong to me and so I always [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► I always liked the new mutants I from [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► from the graphic novel and issue number [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► one in fact because they were they were [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► they were new and and everybody was [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► meeting them for the first time and also [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► because it was an attempt by chris [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► claremont marvel to reset back to the [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► classic thing about the x-men that I [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► think I really do love which is that [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► their their students who are learning [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► who they are and what their powers are [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► and they have to wear the dumb outfits [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► and training the Danger Room because [TS]

00:17:06 ◼   ► they're not quite superheroes yeah and [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► they take ballet the other superheroes [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► you know in training and Kitty Pryde [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► doesn't wanna be one of them which sets [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► up with some amusing a back-and-forth [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► and and and so that was that was how I [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► got into to the x-men time to take a [TS]

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00:19:40 ◼   ► so my mentioning the the New Mutants [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► being being a learning about their [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► powers and all that I had one of the [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► topics I wanted to bring up here is [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► about sort of the what the x-men [TS]

00:19:53 ◼   ► represent it came up already [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► they're Outsiders they represent people [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► who are different they're mutants [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► they're they're born different and they [TS]

00:20:00 ◼   ► were shunned by society so there are [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► lots of metaphors you know what that [TS]

00:20:04 ◼   ► means you can place on top of that that [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► core metaphor and it can sort of mean [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► what you want it to mean to a certain [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► level but I always really liked that and [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► I also like the kind of purity of the [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► the school concept as well that these [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► are these are people who are trying to [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► figure out who they are [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► while they're being shunned by by by the [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► world so so I is Emma my right is that [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► sort of the core of the appeal of the of [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► the x-men do you think i would hazard [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► that one of the appeals of the x-men at [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► least as somebody who has been reading [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► it for price 30-year is um there are so [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► many different characters that it's not [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► a book for just a really specific time [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► in your life but there are so many [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► different characters with so many [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► different circumstances you you'll find [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► somebody to relate to it almost every [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► point um and they love the strongest [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► riders on the series have always done a [TS]

00:21:01 ◼   ► good job of blending and balancing [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► different types of personalities because [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► you always have some hyper conscientious [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► types and some wildly and secure types [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► and some incredibly Reverend types and [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► some straight for heroic types and when [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► you watch this this blend of people of [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► again of all ages and all abilities [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► sparking off of each other [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► it's really easy to step into the book [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► and began identifying and I think that's [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► another part of the appeal as well is in [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► addition to the whole you know where all [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► mutants under the skin message there's [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► also we all have to deal with people all [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► of the time that we were thrown together [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► with three circumstance and then we have [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► people that we want to be with by choice [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► and in the relationships I are such a [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► heart of the book I think that's part of [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► the appeal as well as you eat is you get [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► very invested in your specific x-men [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► like kitty pryde and you want to see [TS]

00:21:48 ◼   ► pegou you're like oh my god like I can [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► remember reading the New Mutants and be [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► like Oh Mike [TS]

00:21:53 ◼   ► why are you being such a jerk and at the [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► same time like on the other hand if I [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► had been demoted from running around [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► with my crush Colossus and like the [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► people I thought were my peers and being [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► forced to hang out with with the ex [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► babies i would be a I would be a real [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► little pill too so that you know it was [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► it was a great mirror for seeing your [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► own experiences reflected back and use a [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► teen and then as an adult you can kind [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► of see you know how people negotiate all [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► sorts of different like workplace [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► interpersonal conflicts and I find it [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► incredibly rewarding that way [TS]

00:22:22 ◼   ► hadn't thought about how the the school [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► concept as you put it really helped the [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► series in the eighth provided structure [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► and it's sort of forced people to have [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► to deal with each other instead of USA [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► everyone waking up in their own separate [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► apartments and and you know having [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► little thought bubbles about what [TS]

00:22:44 ◼   ► they're doing they're all having to deal [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► with each other in each other's faces [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► and it creates tension and it creates a [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► lot of opportunity for the writers to [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► just pair people up and see how they [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► bounce off each other and in that way it [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► became almost like i don't know i'm [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► thinking of The Sopranos and in how [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► you've got the the private lives and and [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► like the work lives and how the two of [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► them just mesh completely that you have [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► what's going on at the school and you [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► got what's going on out in the outer [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► world that they have to react to and go [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► flying the jet and deal with and at the [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► same time they're trying to manage all [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► of these crazy relationships that [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► they're all developing and yeah i do [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► think that was quite a bit of the [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► success also something that I feel like [TS]

00:23:35 ◼   ► come probably mostly comes out of DC [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► characters where I think it for a long [TS]

00:23:40 ◼   ► time the public imagination even until [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► fairly recently our concept of Cape [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► superheroes was that they were these [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► people who were on ironically gifted [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► like sure Batman had problems as a kid [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► but like he had this noble thing that he [TS]

00:23:54 ◼   ► wanted to do and he bought himself up [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► and I think the thing part of what made [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► there's so many things that made the [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► early sixties marvel comics you know [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► great interesting and enduring you know [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► in the case of almost all of them [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► especially fantastic foursome [TS]

00:24:07 ◼   ► I'm an x-men they are really all comics [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► of their time they're based on the fears [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► and concerns of the time fear of [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► radiation concerned about you know [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► segregation and things like that in the [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► case of x-men but so whether or not [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► regardless of whatever your own feeling [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► of being part of or away from society [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► one thing almost every teenager has in [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► common is they don't like how they are [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► they don't like how they got that way [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► and they don't see much hope your [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► prospect of anything being good as a [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► result so when Kitty Pryde is getting [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► headaches and phasing through the floor [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► from up there is a lot of little girls [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► who had their aunt flo arrived and that [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► a lot of the same stuff like that I did [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► not ask for this this is not what I [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► wanted [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► there's no one like me I'm the biggest [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► weirdo in the world and nothing good [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► will ever happen to me [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► so now you got something again like you [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► say like with with the with the with the [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► school you're surrounded by people like [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► that yeah you have to get along with [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► them but you're also going to you're [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► gonna have an opportunity to say you [TS]

00:25:03 ◼   ► know what I am a weirdo but I'm gonna [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► find some way to make something good out [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► of this and you think about you know [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► again think about think about Peter [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► Parker you know think about Ben Graham [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► think about all those folks who were [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► like you know bank needs to be real [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► handsome guy he didn't like looking like [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► that but he figured out a way to make [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► that into something better and bigger [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► than himself and that's to me what makes [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► the promise of the x-men so interesting [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► continues to be a big 10-4 anybody feels [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► like a weirdo [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► well they also put an extra level of [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► weirdness because the residents of the [TS]

00:25:33 ◼   ► Marvel Universe are very picky and they [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► can tell the difference between somebody [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► who has their powers because of cosmic [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► rays which is fine and people who were [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► born that way and they're evil and have [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► to be shot [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► it's a great way to explore the nuances [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► of bigotry because you know all the [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► spider bit you [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► well carry ons when you cross yeah it [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► wasn't my good on my good lad as opposed [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► to oh you have the x-gene to the tundra [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► you know one of the Marvel like to do is [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► have unhappy superheroes people who are [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► mopey because they have superpowers [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► yeah which a lot of the time doesn't [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► work because except for Ben Grimm the [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► rest of the Fantastic Four are fine and [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► can get on with their lives I'll be mr. [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► fantastic intervening says Johnny Storm [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► ok [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► yeah but the x-men and all the whole [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► mutants even if they look normal they [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► know they are hunted and despised for [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► what they are and a lot of like say a [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► lot of teenagers also feel like they are [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► hunted and despite just for being [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► themselves man that's right and you have [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► two different kinds you got the you have [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► the mutants who are visibly mutant like [TS]

00:26:38 ◼   ► Nightcrawler being a good example it or [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► where the Beast back in the day who they [TS]

00:26:43 ◼   ► don't they don't make physically don't [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► fit in and then you've got the other [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► kind of outcasts who are the ones who [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► who know their different inside and I [TS]

00:26:50 ◼   ► and and if they don't say anything or [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► they don't you know if they behave right [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► they might be able to pass for some [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► amount of time but they know that it's [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► it's not true and and that they could be [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► found out in that they're not being true [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► to themselves and I i like i like both [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► of those approaches and by by having the [TS]

00:27:04 ◼   ► team you've got people who got these two [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► they're in different stages of life and [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► they've got different ways that they [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► interact with with society and it makes [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► it really interesting [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► that's a good point because you talk [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► about the ways they interact with [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► society and I was gonna say would also [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► appeals to be about the x-men especially [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► become adults is the writers tend to [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► come back repeatedly to each character [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► ask themselves who do I want to be and [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► what am I going to do in the world with [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► who why with with that the talents and [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► traits that i have am I going to be [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► somebody who's like a straight-up hero [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► or am I going to be somebody who run the [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► detective agency or am I going to be [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► somebody who's a school administrator in [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► there are some mutants are all you know [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► I don't forget you i'm i'm going to [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► become off high-class prostitute because [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► that is the thing that most women X [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► could god I'm going to become a rock [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► star or disco star was thinking [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► something she shoots lasers with sound [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► ok I think about the villains that you [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► end up really enjoying or when you fill [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► in what it would mean a villain you know [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► the bad guys the baddies but I mean you [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► know what does it make the Joker so [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► great with Batman the Joker Dino super [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► deep cataloging Batman but one of the [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► reasons i love the Joker is that he [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► realizes something he wants Batman to [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► realize that thing and that thing is we [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► need each other like we cannot rise to [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► the appropriate level of what we are [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► capable of without pushing each other so [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► that makes a great every single [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► relationship whereas again look over [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► here at somebody like magneto Magneto [TS]

00:28:29 ◼   ► got his [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► reasons for being added in various times [TS]

00:28:32 ◼   ► in the history of the x-men there are [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► ppl misguided or otherwise who feel dogs [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► certain that whatever it is they believe [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► is best for everybody so whether that's [TS]

00:28:40 ◼   ► with his name in godless man kills or [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► without striker striker yesterday haha [TS]

00:28:46 ◼   ► striker that guy or whomever like you [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► need a the thing is this is what makes [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► for great potentially great literature [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► is to have somebody who gets cast as the [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► antagonist but they you know nobody [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► thinks they're the troll because [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► everybody's got their reasons and that's [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► why magneto continues to be interesting [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► because you know you don't know what [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► side he's going to be on but he's [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► definitely not on the same page as [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► everybody else but i don't know i think [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► that continues to making such an [TS]

00:29:10 ◼   ► interesting character [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► yeah he was on the x-men for a long time [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► and it was completely justified he [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► didn't have to change any of his basic [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► motivations to do it which is not [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► something you can do with a lot of [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► villains [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► yeah or listen carefully I mean you know [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► you could have the lex luthor he is [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► working with Superman now is like yeah [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► okay but with Maggie know it was about [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► his approach and and I mean he sometimes [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► drawn as much more villainy but but i [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► agree so much of this is about or emma [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► frost yeah well i was thinking i was [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► gonna bring her up because i actually [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► one of the things that you know they're [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► the classic things about the x-men that [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► i kind of am sad that they don't have [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► anymore because they have progressed but [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► I it's hard for me to complain about a [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► comic-book trying to progress characters [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► because usually they don't and and so [TS]

00:29:52 ◼   ► Emma Frost is a good example who she [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► starts out [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► I mean she's got some she's allergic [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► clothing we've established this she [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► really doesn't want to wear any it's she [TS]

00:29:59 ◼   ► wears as little as possible so she was [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► you know she's she's the the white queen [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► and the Hellfire Club and she's up she's [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► a baddie and it turns around and becomes [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► a really interesting character as Scott [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► Summers girlfriend and a teacher who's [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► basically running the school and um you [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► know she's she and she's got an itch to [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► her because she isn't like a goody-goody [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► because she was a villain and ends up [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► being a you know it did that there's a [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► all these characters who are mutants [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► they're all on in one level they're on [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► the same side right and it's just a [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► matter of what they choose to do [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► politically about being on that side [TS]

00:30:37 ◼   ► they're the ones they're all apart the [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► good guys and the bad guys are all apart [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► from the rest of the world because [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► they're in general and the x-men all [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► mutants that's really interesting i'd [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► rather than my frost just because you [TS]

00:30:47 ◼   ► talk about you know she was rolled out [TS]

00:30:49 ◼   ► and she's the white queen she can [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► Sebastian's you know Sebastian's shot is [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► terrifying and what was striking even [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► back in the eighties was her laser focus [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► was i'm going to raise these children so [TS]

00:31:02 ◼   ► they don't have to go through what I go [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► through and if if her means were you [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► know seen as evil or manipulative she [TS]

00:31:09 ◼   ► she could not care less what you thought [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► because she had a goal is really focused [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► on I feel like she shares that with [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► magneto where they have this one [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► principle that drives everything they do [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► and it's a good principle it's just that [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► they are very much of the well you [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► cannot make an omelet without going [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► through accident [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► yeah but I'm one of my the moment I will [TS]

00:31:30 ◼   ► always love Emma Frost for actually [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► happens during marvel civil war event [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► when Tony Stark comes and he's like yeah [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► we really want the mutants to help out [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► the side of the side of Tony Stark the [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► side of right and she's like I like the [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► way the Avengers helped after her big [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► crisis last year Donna are we in the [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► Marvel Universe now I hadn't noticed [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► yeah and just the way she throws his [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► crap in the street and she's all know [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► you know what mutants mutants lookout [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► for mutants I don't care what the rest [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► of you do every mutant has their orders [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► to stay out of this and when she when [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► she puts it like that you know that [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► everyone staying out of it like you know [TS]

00:32:06 ◼   ► there's not going to be Wolverine [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► popping into this book to Goose sales [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► because II you even he goes back and i [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► love that she explicitly draws length of [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► solid evidence is no these are the [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► people I'm for you are not one of them [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► and by the way you work you work for us [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► what we needed you so have a Coke and a [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► smile and good luck in Captain America [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► going the other way road was a villain [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► who turned you into a hero as a complete [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► turning on a dime in it yeah yeah yeah i [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► mean there was there was some tragedy in [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► her but it did happen awful fast that [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► was right at Corrin in the core of my [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► expanding and and she was meant to be a [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► tragic character her tragedy was that [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► she almost killed miss marvel but still [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► kinda messed her up in the head man [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► cause she kinda absorbed the heroism of [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► ms marvel and [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► and it sort of made her rethink things [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► and they haven't rehabbing a villain and [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► and turning them into an x-man was an [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► interesting story for rogue but it was [TS]

00:33:03 ◼   ► no no I i am with You Monty it's gonna [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► happen awfully awfully fast i also find [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► a chilling that we gave this woman a [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► personality transplant now she's [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► wonderful as is seen as a completely [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► valid after everybody [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► yeah by the time i was reading she's [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► just the invulnerable flying one with a [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► southern sun and magnificent mullet oh [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► my god i think it's going straight [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► john romita like to take his time with [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► drawing air [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► yeah listen sugar yeah I liked Rogan III [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► it's one of the things that I sort of [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► hesitate to go back and read the the era [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► that i started reading the nineteen [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► nineties because looking back at it now [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► I realize how thin the character was and [TS]

00:33:50 ◼   ► but I thought that you know her plight [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► was so tragic and you know she couldn't [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► touch anyone and and oh you know it [TS]

00:33:58 ◼   ► I gambit gets a lot of flak that is very [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► well observed and he basically exist to [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► be the man she cannot touch and but at [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► the same time it was sort of that [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► there's the TV show Beauty and the Beast [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► that was on at about the same time where [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► it was where they set up the tension so [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► well that anything that was you know two [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► pinkies touching constituted you know [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► full-on you know going at it and that [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► was what they set up for the two of them [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► and so as as a fifteen-year-old girl I [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► was completely enraptured by anything [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► that the two of them are in and now I'm [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► like God I don't even want to look at it [TS]

00:34:43 ◼   ► because I i'm just going to be [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► embarrassed but they managed to touch [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► something really primal with her which [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► is it is a very very freaky thought what [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► if you couldn't touch anyone for the [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► rest of your life and just that ability [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► of hers that was also such a huge [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► impediment sheet sort of personified i [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► think a lot of the [TS]

00:35:07 ◼   ► the the double-edged sword of being a [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► mutant you have this amazing power and [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► you may just chuck it all you know if [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► you could in order to just have basic [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► human contact time to take a break and [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► tell you about a sponsor it's Harry's [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► you know i've been using Harry's shaving [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► equipment for quite a while now and I [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► really like it to the point where i got [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► my first set sent to me from I'm from [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► Harry's they're like you're gonna talk [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► about this on podcast you should try it [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► out and since then you know what I just [TS]

00:35:40 ◼   ► keep buying the stuff because it's [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► really good and I'm happy to spend my [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► own money on Harry's shaving equipment [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► the blades super-sharp the shape is [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► close and comfortable [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► the handle is very nice and crippled and [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► the the shaving lotion smells great the [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► minty shaving lotion it's changed how I [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► shave and all for the better so i think [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► you should give it a try to now fathers [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► days coming up the limited edition [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► father's day shape set is here [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► it includes a matte black razor handle [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► chrome razor stand which is pretty cool [TS]

00:36:13 ◼   ► i just check this out [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► you can it allows you to stand the razor [TS]

00:36:16 ◼   ► upright and has a little place that [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► lives it's pretty cool and it's got the [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► moisturizing foaming shave gel three [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► handcrafted blade cartridges and a [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► travel cover all four forty dollars and [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► comes in a sleek giftable box with the [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► option to add custom engraving and a [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► personalized card it's a beautiful set [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► but there are also more affordable [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► shaving sets if you would prefer [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► starting at fifteen dollars so you could [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► definitely get one for somebody in your [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► life or for yourself [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► Harry's razor's edge 5german crafted [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► blades Affleck's hinge lubricating strip [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► quality is guaranteed if you're not [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► happy they'll give you your money back [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► and they cost two dollars blade or even [TS]

00:36:53 ◼   ► less half the price of the leading brand [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► it's easy to order you go online you [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► have to go to the drugstore and deal [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► with people and have them unlocked cases [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► or anything like that and if you're [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► sending it to somebody you love is a [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► gift that's easy just put in their [TS]

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00:37:24 ◼   ► get dead something he'll actually use on [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► father's day we'll get something for [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► yourself if you're a person who shaves [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► you should try Harry's [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► I wanted to talk about the characters [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► here because we mentioned a few of them [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► in there so there are so many I I'm [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► surprised we haven't talked about [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► Charles Xavier at all but they they he [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► kind of comes and goes hey they promised [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► Jason they kill them off and then he [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► comes back and he dies again and they [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► pick his brain and put him in somebody [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► else and it's a thing that house he [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► doesn't walk he walks he doesn't yeah i [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► know the clone body and they break the [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► body to me it's a thing but he comes to [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► me goes but there's so many characters [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► and it and it's a rich word with this is [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► not the draft but i do want to go around [TS]

00:38:10 ◼   ► and ask everybody if they have if they [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► have a favorite one or two x-men because [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► i think that we're never gonna be able [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► to capture them all but maybe we can [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► touch quickly on on a few of the [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► characters that are really made an [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► impact with us Berlin what about you [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► we have a your favorite favorite x-men [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► that's like asking me to pick my [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► favorite Beatles song and it's really [TS]

00:38:31 ◼   ► hard to changes from time to time but an [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► enduring favorite for me is kitty pryde [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► i think that's probably when everybody's [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► favorite because she feels like us and [TS]

00:38:40 ◼   ► she's the way that and if you can get [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► with the Marvel style and you know I [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► totally understand if you can't get with [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► the Marvel stop when she's introduced I [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► will freely return to that crazy run [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► that awesome run so much great stuff [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► around that time when they introduced [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► dazzler and they introduced kitty pryde [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► there's so much great stuff but the way [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► that she's written she really feels like [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► a Jewish kid from Chicago who takes [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► ballet lessons really i buy it I'm in [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► like I'm sold [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► I wanted to mention some of our kitty [TS]

00:39:07 ◼   ► because that I think kitty kitty is so [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► many people talk about about kitty and i [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► remember i told you i like the hardcore [TS]

00:39:14 ◼   ► comics fans who all loved x-men and I'll [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► love Wolverine these are all a bunch of [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► 12 year old boys were like wolverine [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► he's so cool you can cut things with his [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► claws he's awesome he's got a cigar he's [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► great right [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► and then there's me who you know quite [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► frankly would not talk about it to those [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► to those guys because I didn't want to [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► let on but it's like I actually really [TS]

00:39:32 ◼   ► like kitty pryde she's the one she's one [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► question I don't have anything connected [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► to Wolverine at all it's like he's just [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► this grumbly canadian guy right cliff [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► Claus but kitty is an awkward teenager [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► who is trying to interact in a world [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► with all of these adults who have [TS]

00:39:49 ◼   ► who seem to have their stuff together [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► and I'll in a way that she absolutely [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► does not [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► she's like the bass player from [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► Metallica like no matter how long she's [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► in that band she's always going to be [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► the new one yeah but that's what makes [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► her and Wolverines two great teams drink [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► yeah whatever I I always been [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► interesting how all Wolverine principal [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► little girls [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► yeah he's great at that he so there's [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► that cover worries about to kill a [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► powerpack kid when they did that [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► recently they did the wolverine and the [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► x-men series which which plays off of [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► wolverine as actually not you know he [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► doesn't want to let on because he's got [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► that profits Terry to live down but he [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► he is he actually is good with kids [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► the thing that I think i'm a lot of like [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► manly man boys miss that to me has [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► become my I mean I happen to really like [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► wolverine I think he's gotten a little [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► lot of baggage over the years because [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► people have God love him I videography [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► added so much unnecessary origin stuff [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► to this character was connected within [TS]

00:40:46 ◼   ► jack has noticed that yeah well that was [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► the most interesting we didn't [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► understand what how the claws work we [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► don't know like we don't need like you [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► know but the thing is and you know it's [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► funny this didn't really really hit me [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► until the first x-men movie which i [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► think is a really good movie but when [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► when when rogue has seen him [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► wielding his claws and they're sitting [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► there in the pickup and they do a great [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► shot with a zoom in on his hands and [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► he's gripping the wheel doesn't hand and [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► she and Andros says to him [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► does it hurt and he says every time [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► three-time loser here's here's what you [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► don't know about wolverine hey this is [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► the thing you can drop him from space [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► and he will the social part 3 [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► he will heal the particular it's gonna [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► hurt so much when he hits the ground [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► every time he does anything that we [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► think of as like it's not like it's not [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► like Superman like lifting something [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► with his irate I lasers or something [TS]

00:41:37 ◼   ► like everything he does hurts just as [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► much as it would hurt you and me he [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► wastes 352 he weighs 300 pounds damn and [TS]

00:41:45 ◼   ► pain because his body is permanently [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► trying to heal something that can't be [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► imagine being a human scab that smokes [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► that's what he'd call his entire life is [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► healing something unavailable and that [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► now maybe that's the 49-year old man [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► because I heard that I was over [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► they're my my Canadian brother i feel [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► you there was i remember this issue [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► where Jean Grey had to go find him [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► it was like the aftermath of some battle [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► or other and he decided to deal with the [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► emotional fallout by going and picking [TS]

00:42:16 ◼   ► fights in bars and she found him with [TS]

00:42:18 ◼   ► cerebro and she got him and he had been [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► i basically daring this guy to hit him [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► with brass knuckles and the guy you know [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► obliged and Wolverine then you know had [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► to pop his I back into place and Papa [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► shoulder back into place and whatever [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► and then he said my turn in the guy ran [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► and Jean Grey's like why are you doing [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► this and he says the the answer [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► basically boiled down to I don't scar I [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► don't get to scar the way you guys do [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► and you can look at your body and say [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► this is from with this fight and this is [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► from the other fight and this is from [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► when you know I tripped on something [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► when I was a kid so this is how I deal [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► with it and I remember being very blown [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► away by that because I yeah it's that [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► feeling of you can do anything to him [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► and he comes back and what what's what [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► does that reek in in in the head that [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► just makes guy interesting and I think [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► he's I think Wolverines a character is a [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► victim of his unpopularity that he ended [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► up being you know not only I think like [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► by some people for some of the wrong [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► reasons and that lost some of the [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► subtlety of the character but also he [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► just got so popular that he was [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► overexposed and they had a min a bunch [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► of different books that spider-man is [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► really was something on every team for [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► know particularly good reason yeah you [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► know that's the joke as Wolverines the [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► Wolverines the loners on every team in [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► the market [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► yeah but you know it's just we think [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► about he's ultimately so tragic because [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► here is somebody who is a grown-ass man [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► living in a mansion with a bunch of [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► teenagers he can't get married and have [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► children because that's just their there [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► are no circumstances that's going to [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► work for him and what I found [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► interesting about the way he's been [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► characterized over the years is I loved [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► him in the eighties when I was a little [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► girl and then a teenager because he was [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► he was always the wisecracking cynic on [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► the team [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► um and I like the undercut the tone of [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► high-minded idea [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► it's part of high-minded heroes and that [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► Scott Summers strove to bring to the [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► proceedings and but it seems like a lot [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► of the writers use them to workout [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► meditations on what it means to be [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► masculine in almost a decade and that [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► has kind of gradually shifted over the [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► years and when you see him another book [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► sometimes it's fascinating [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► like I love his appearance in this [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► Marvel when Kamala cosmic irony fanfic [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► about you and they worked together and [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► he has to accept help from her and they [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► take a selfie and he treats her like up [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► here but he still runs interference to [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► make sure that she's not on the Avengers [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► Walsh while she's still a child and you [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► contrast that to somebody who in the [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► eighties had no problem throwing [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► teenagers into battle when it was [TS]

00:44:57 ◼   ► expedient and I think it's really [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► interesting how the character has [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► suddenly grown and changed and how that [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► might be pointing to cultural currents [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► about the the way we regard what it [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► means to be manly or to be a man of [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► culture too because because the Marines [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► kind of Wolverines kind of marbles [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► masculine fantasy the only people that [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► the people the the greatest American [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► filmmakers working today dealing with in [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► every movie in some way dealing with [TS]

00:45:19 ◼   ► what happens [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► what does it mean to be a man in America [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► and what would you do if you had [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► unlimited power and money [TS]

00:45:25 ◼   ► coen brothers coen brothers should do a [TS]

00:45:27 ◼   ► Wolverine movie probably can't just to [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► add george clooney's Wolverine I was all [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► set to answer your question i'm not [TS]

00:45:34 ◼   ► going to say Nightcrawler I'm not gonna [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► say I'm gonna stick I'm gonna save and [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► no this is not a draft although it's [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► technically a draft i'll choose kitty [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► pryde ok nite drafting fried still would [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► be on board because there's no board as [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► it's not a draft thank you shooting and [TS]

00:45:48 ◼   ► she would also phase through the board [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► thank you she would she would but she's [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► not she's not going down with those [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► x-babies Celine Dion favorite x-men [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► character or two [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► well it's a good thing you pick me next [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► because I know he's going soon it has to [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► be Nightcrawler alright it's not a draft [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► he's not going anywhere but alright why [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► our group of the x-men he's so talented [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► and so underrated it's a draft Jason [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► making a dress alessi teleports there [TS]

00:46:12 ◼   ► with a pup with puffs of brimstone and [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► ab amp yes [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► ok so as a fellow Jewish girl from [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► suburban Chicago kitty bride was my [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► identity character but as far as [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► who i thought the most interesting and [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► compelling person in the x-men was it [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► will absolutely had to be Nightcrawler [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► and to me he sort of was the [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► personification of what the x-men were [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► about in that you have this guy who has [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► every reason to be a mopey loner hating [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► the world and instead he is this [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► delightful sweetheart of a guy who loves [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► to watch old films and fences and is [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► religious in a way that very few comic [TS]

00:47:11 ◼   ► book characters that I was sort of [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► exposed to then or I don't know about [TS]

00:47:16 ◼   ► now but goodness like a devout Catholic [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► like is that done you know in in comic [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► books and actually treated with with you [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► know some degree sometimes some degree [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► of tastefulness we won't talk about when [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► they're not fighting my fist oh oh god [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► but and at the same time like you know [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► in people called him a double people [TS]

00:47:40 ◼   ► called him you know like the agent of [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► satan and people you know literal town's [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► folk with pitchforks and torches came [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► after this guy and he managed not to let [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► it like Colonel his soul and is a very [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► fun person and you know very sensitive [TS]

00:48:03 ◼   ► and thoughtful person and just always [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► drove to be his best and I feel the way [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► about him the way i think a lot of [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► people feel about spider-man which is [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► like I hope that I would be that person [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► in that situation and it doesn't hurt [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► that he's cute [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► I'll end it with that I fuzzy elf is a [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► great case such a great character also [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► I'll that's the first German I ever [TS]

00:48:29 ◼   ► learned where the first Russian quite [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► frankly to where the thing [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► because as I think Monty has pointed out [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► before the way chris claremont road all [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► the dialogue is these people speak [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► english except occasionally they will [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► drop in one or two words of their native [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► language just for flavor really [TS]

00:48:44 ◼   ► occasionally meaning once every other [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► page never learned what the White Wolf [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► is anyone even know what what is there a [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► particular white wolf that Colossus is [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► always talking about her so just any [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► random white wolf that happens to show [TS]

00:48:56 ◼   ► up for going to get your writer was [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► insane to Peter and the wolf it's [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► important just decided that surely him i [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► could say well I learned most of my [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► French mall share about you can but I [TS]

00:49:09 ◼   ► monte and the waterfall oxygen with my [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► see it Monty do you have to have a a [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► favorite x-men or two that you would [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► like to mention i have a bizarre [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► fondness for proto gambit longshot [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► longshot are we just talking about [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► mullets god yeah and i can report that [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► according to wikipedia when they besides [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► longshots costume they decided why why [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► does somebody always have something to [TS]

00:49:39 ◼   ► throw [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► we better put some pouches on his outfit [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► and that's where all the poachers in the [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► nineties came from [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► I just I just learned the official name [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► a few weeks ago is only a few weeks ago [TS]

00:49:48 ◼   ► so that we can somebody some kind of [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► lame reference so i want to get that [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► lame reference correct i learned the [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► official title for long shots power and [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► I just a decision today i really wish i [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► had probability manipulation [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► yeah maybe that would be really i could [TS]

00:50:04 ◼   ► really use that which is weird because [TS]

00:50:06 ◼   ► that was kind of scarlet witch's at [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► scarlet was initially heard that was her [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► friend our you exactly but then she has [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► universe shuttering magic powers instead [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► yeah yeah what can I say one that's not [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► an x-man but was a new Mutant yeah mute [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► mute ensure all mute and surveillance [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► men [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► oh my yes I'd sorry much baby unit were [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► okay this is not actually a mutant but i [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► really like warlock I was going to [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► mention warlock Monty i actually was [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► going to mention Morlock he's not even [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► really a mutant iza he's an alien react [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► no alien who comes and meets the new [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► mutants that Doug know doug is cipher [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► time for the world who could talk to [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► warlock because Doug [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► a lot merge later become double lock yes [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► oh that's where i'm getting ok ok [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► there's a great i think New Mutants [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► annual warlock and impossible man have a [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► contest to see who can beat the other in [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► becoming ridiculous things and it ends [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► up with impossible man can't change [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► colors but more like a so there it's [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► fantastic [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► no warlock looks great yeah I love him [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► not actually mean [TS]

00:51:10 ◼   ► so I'm gonna say storm oh yeah mostly [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► because she was able to lead the team [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► even when she didn't have powers in [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► probably my favorite sequence where she [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► had a contest with Cyclops in the Danger [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► Room and she won the even though he had [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► powers and she didn't I think storm has [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► a great look when she gets the really [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► tall mohawk [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► yeah i like both her looks I like that I [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► like her punk rock from Mohawk phase and [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► i also like her like big white hair and [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► the long flowy cloak kind of kind of I [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► think they're both really cool and she [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► was a good leader [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► I also think it shows she proved that [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► you cannot be the leader of the x-men [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► and not be totally boring like Cyclops [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► so they're all my favorite bigger xmen [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► she has a great background to in that [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► instead of you know having rocks thrown [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► at her and Ali she was I goddess [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► yeah but she left that to come fight [TS]

00:52:01 ◼   ► evildoers anyway [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► good for her Lisa do you have a do you [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► have a favorite x-men or x-men i feel [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► like can you practice the phil hartman [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► everybody is gonna everybody good [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► everybody gets no and because she is my [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► favorite she is she's like a hundred [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► percent and again it's because I began [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► reading it right before I went to middle [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► school and you know when you're that age [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► and you're just entering adolescence you [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► almost instinctively looking characters [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► are just a few years older than you are [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► because they're more relatable their [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► kind of you want to be and so Kitty i [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► always use a contemporary and could [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► empathize acutely with with almost any [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► any storyline that she had and I locked [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► her and so she's my number one with a [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► bullet that said I have a real soft spot [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► for both karma and Mirage who were [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► introduced in the new mutants and I like [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► them precisely because they were both of [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► them were sort of force [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► sort of forced into the team as older [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► teenagers as opposed to you know being a [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► little kitty there but there are newer [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► to the mutant games that makes it [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► interesting because they were you know [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► incident having the experience kitty [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► have they have they have a different set [TS]

00:53:12 ◼   ► of experience with the midfielder yet [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► less experienced otherwise they both [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► lost their parents and had to grow up [TS]

00:53:18 ◼   ► too fast and they brought some gravitas [TS]

00:53:21 ◼   ► to a good pops he can see and they have [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► some of the most interesting stories um [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► karma gets kidnapped very early on in [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► the series run I I'm but I it like long [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► story short he's this telepathic [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► telepathic despot who takes her body [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► binge eating it constantly until she's [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► like 400 pounds when she's finally [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► rescued she's stranded in a desert on a [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► different dimension and wanders around [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► to all the way it falls off and she's in [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► the key [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► he seems really which seems really dumb [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► except the whole time you know she's [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► really struggling to choose out of shape [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► and she's being held hostage in a body [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► that is hideous an alien tour because [TS]

00:53:58 ◼   ► it's out of our control and again it's a [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► great metaphor for adolescents yeah um [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► and then a mirage Danielle Moonstar has [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► of course the iconic demon Barry saga [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► story in The New Mutants which is when [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► what and like the big seem as though you [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► have to confront the things you fear [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► because once you take them apart you [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► figure out who you are it's rewarding [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► and the more shallow superficial thing [TS]

00:54:21 ◼   ► is Magic turn her parents into a bear [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► both of them into one bear and she has [TS]

00:54:28 ◼   ► to fix it but I'm what I liked about [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► them is as they you know progressed over [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► the next 30 years when you think about [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► it they're not there they they've come [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► back and become administrators the [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► school may become instructors may become [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► mentors and they've built solid teams [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► and all sorts of experiences and they [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► haven't gone full bore cool like some [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► other x-men because you have to admit [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► that like every once in awhile [TS]

00:54:57 ◼   ► excellent will go off the reservation [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► spectacularly like just complete utter [TS]

00:55:00 ◼   ► lunacy and and that hasn't happened with [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► them yet and i like that you've got [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► these people who are pretty even-keeled [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► about things they've been punched [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► they've been punched by life a few times [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► but they just kind of go and you know [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► lean on their friends for a bit and then [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► get out and get the job done [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► like I I found that really admirable [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► that as a very young woman and I like it [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► now too [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► let's see what are we what are we [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► missing out there I I mean kitty pryde [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► was going to be what I talk about her [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► then I was gonna mention Nightcrawler I [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► i actually was gonna throw out a warlock [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► because because he was pretty cool left [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► hand so i don't know i don't know what I [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► don't know who's left to choose I when I [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► i guess i'll throw out ileana rescued [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► magic because i think that she started [TS]

00:55:45 ◼   ► out as a it's a just a fascinating story [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► turn with her where she's this little [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► girl she's Peter Rasputin's little [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► little sister and in the course of what [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► one panel she goes from being kidnapped [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► and sent to Limbo right and she and she [TS]

00:55:57 ◼   ► comes back as a teenager and and from [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► time all this time has passed in a blink [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► of an eye and then we they spend their [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► time throwing up a story of what [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► happened to her to make her into a [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► teenager over that time and it turns out [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► it was you know as you might expect from [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► being in a Hell dimension it was kind of [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► awful but she also has like a really [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► cool sword and teleportation powers so [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► she ends up being a a keep a key player [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► in in the x-men not going forward i was [TS]

00:56:30 ◼   ► just reading a bunch of x-men issues uh [TS]

00:56:32 ◼   ► recently in the in the Scott Summers has [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► a big x over his face and is a is sort [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► of feeling the magneto role and she's [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► she's pretty great in that too and she [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► still has kept her friendship with kitty [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► which I really like to then they're both [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► adults now and the relationship although [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► it has changed is still kind of [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► delightful and in that it's it's solid [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► no matter you know what water is under [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► the bridge between Kitty and her and [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► Leon is a brother for Kitty Pryde her [TS]

00:56:58 ◼   ► habit of dating men named Peter yeah [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► well just sighed people in comic books [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► do not learn i do love the idea that [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► they can take Kitty Pryde and and try [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► out some other storylines like putting [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► her in the guardians of the galaxy I [TS]

00:57:09 ◼   ► think that's really great and fun to do [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► that i just found out about the [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► development recently and it was like in [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► the middle of a barnes and noble just [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► you know going through the various [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► trades and I saw like keep ride and you [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► know Peter whatever I forget it's like [TS]

00:57:27 ◼   ► well i love peter will in guardians of [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► the galaxy and the two of them like [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► kissing in space and i nearly I I like [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► merely squealed out loud because it was [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► it was again that feeling of like a [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► friend of yours from long ago that you [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► just discovered like monkeys in space no [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► Oh kitties face and she's with Peter [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► Quillin oh my god that's so awesome like [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► I wanted to send her a congrats card [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► like it was just it was just the most [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► awesome development [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► I don't know where as far as I was [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► concerned that's how I felt when I found [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► out she was a professor at the school [TS]

00:58:02 ◼   ► the first time I was like oh good for [TS]

00:58:04 ◼   ► her good thing she had in her [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► it's when Sean Quinn man karma becomes a [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► lot of library at the University Chicago [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► I'm like not bad university happens a [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► great school lightweight know that it's [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► gonna do it they also put in a word is [TS]

00:58:21 ◼   ► not a draft I'll put in a word for Jean [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► Grey although I would actually say that [TS]

00:58:24 ◼   ► I think Jean Grey has gotten way more [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► interesting [TS]

00:58:26 ◼   ► retro actively then she was in the [TS]

00:58:28 ◼   ► original x-men and certainly even during [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► the the Dark Phoenix saga it was very [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► much like oh I you know know I've I'm [TS]

00:58:35 ◼   ► out of control and she turns evil person [TS]

00:58:38 ◼   ► a lot of 19 late 1970s 1980s plots [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► revolving around female excellent female [TS]

00:58:43 ◼   ► maybe this could all be seen as like a [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► body horror / r8 metaphor yeah because [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► it's always some poor woman getting [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► something done to her body that she had [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► said that she can't consent to she's [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► powerless to stop and just live with the [TS]

00:58:54 ◼   ► repercussions of so one of the clever [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► things that has happened in the x-men [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► recently is brian michael bendis did a [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► run of the all-new x-men which the [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► premise of which is totally nuts which [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► is the original x-men are brought [TS]

00:59:07 ◼   ► forward in time to see what's happened [TS]

00:59:09 ◼   ► in the marvel universe since they and [TS]

00:59:12 ◼   ► and and one of the things that I think [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► is really great about it is as a written [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► by Bendis Jean Grey who is immediately [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► brought to a school that's named after [TS]

00:59:22 ◼   ► her because she's dead [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► you know is she becomes a really [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► interesting character she doesn't have [TS]

00:59:27 ◼   ► most of her powers yet there yet to come [TS]

00:59:30 ◼   ► and she's dealing with all of the [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► expectations that surround her because [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► everybody [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► finally finding out what she does it in [TS]

00:59:36 ◼   ► and uh it's really kind of great and [TS]

00:59:39 ◼   ► that that has made me rich r actively [TS]

00:59:41 ◼   ► like gene green all gray a whole lot [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► more [TS]

00:59:43 ◼   ► I also like the fact that they that they [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► didn't like send them back in time after [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► six issues instead they basically said [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► well no you're here to stay this is you [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► know you've you know we split off from [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► your timeline and you're just going to [TS]

00:59:53 ◼   ► beat your younger selves are going to be [TS]

00:59:55 ◼   ► here with your old ourselves and you're [TS]

00:59:57 ◼   ► just going to have to deal with it and I [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► kind of love that too so that was a [TS]

00:59:58 ◼   ► kind of love that too so that was a [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► really nice weird take on the x-men that [TS]

01:00:02 ◼   ► I I feel like rehab Jane Jim Gray as a [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► character a lot [TS]

01:00:06 ◼   ► weirdly enough the ultimate x-men [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► actually rehab jean kerr crazy character [TS]

01:00:10 ◼   ► for me I g the well it's really cool [TS]

01:00:12 ◼   ► that they could put a gene and storm and [TS]

01:00:16 ◼   ► Kitty and Cyclops and Iceman they're all [TS]

01:00:19 ◼   ► on the same they're all the same age and [TS]