00:00:11 ◼ ► we're back on the uncomfortable podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/11">TS</a>]
00:00:14 ◼ ► I'm your host Jason smell and it is time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/14">TS</a>]
00:00:16 ◼ ► for another edition of our part where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/16">TS</a>]
00:00:21 ◼ ► actually have a booklet really only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/21">TS</a>]
00:00:24 ◼ ► internet we are here to discuss to 1000 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/24">TS</a>]
00:00:27 ◼ ► page long fantasy novels a dance with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/27">TS</a>]
00:00:29 ◼ ► dragons by george RR martin and the wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/29">TS</a>]
00:00:32 ◼ ► man's fear by Patrick Rothfuss now this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/32">TS</a>]
00:00:36 ◼ ► conversation is in fact going to be so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/36">TS</a>]
00:00:38 ◼ ► long that we're going to start adhere to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/38">TS</a>]
00:00:41 ◼ ► one episode about a dance with dragons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/41">TS</a>]
00:00:43 ◼ ► take a break and come back with a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/43">TS</a>]
00:00:46 ◼ ► episode about the wise man's fear so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/46">TS</a>]
00:00:50 ◼ ► joining me today to talk about these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/50">TS</a>]
00:00:52 ◼ ► gigantic fantasy tomes are damned Ouran [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/52">TS</a>]
00:00:56 ◼ ► High Dam digestion I just want to let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/56">TS</a>]
00:00:59 ◼ ► you know that i put the Dan in dance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/59">TS</a>]
00:01:01 ◼ ► with dragons good dance with dragons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/61">TS</a>]
00:01:04 ◼ ► really exactly i am in fact right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/64">TS</a>]
00:01:06 ◼ ► with dragons with dragons excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/66">TS</a>]
00:01:09 ◼ ► serenity Caldwell is here as well I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/69">TS</a>]
00:01:12 ◼ ► do you have any dragons dear you I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/72">TS</a>]
00:01:17 ◼ ► John syracuse also joins us hi John no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/77">TS</a>]
00:01:21 ◼ ► spoilers no spoilers you're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/81">TS</a>]
00:01:23 ◼ ► silent for for the first half of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/83">TS</a>]
00:01:25 ◼ ► podcast because you haven't you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/85">TS</a>]
00:01:27 ◼ ► read the game of thrones books or have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/87">TS</a>]
00:01:28 ◼ ► you only read the first one I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/88">TS</a>]
00:01:30 ◼ ► had anything my wife actually started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/90">TS</a>]
00:01:31 ◼ ► reading them after seeing the TV show [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/91">TS</a>]
00:01:33 ◼ ► but I'm i don't have room for that in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/93">TS</a>]
00:01:35 ◼ ► life right now you watch the TV show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/95">TS</a>]
00:01:37 ◼ ► want to remain unspoiled exactly right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/97">TS</a>]
00:01:42 ◼ ► whatever six this season supporters for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/102">TS</a>]
00:01:44 ◼ ► 2017 John you're cool that's right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/104">TS</a>]
00:01:48 ◼ ► it'll spoil everything in-between right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/108">TS</a>]
00:01:49 ◼ ► by exactly and we rely for debt and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/109">TS</a>]
00:01:52 ◼ ► Scott Mykelti also joins us he reads [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/112">TS</a>]
00:01:55 ◼ ► hello yes it does it's good to hear your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/115">TS</a>]
00:01:59 ◼ ► it's good to be hurt alright so I dance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/119">TS</a>]
00:02:03 ◼ ► with dragons haven't booked in the ne a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/123">TS</a>]
00:02:08 ◼ ► song of ice and fire series which will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/128">TS</a>]
00:02:10 ◼ ► cover roughly seven between seven and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/130">TS</a>]
00:02:14 ◼ ► nine t-ball use by the time it's done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/134">TS</a>]
00:02:19 ◼ ► I think volume up volume 74 i'm really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/139">TS</a>]
00:02:23 ◼ ► looking forward to yeah that'll be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/143">TS</a>]
00:02:26 ◼ ► that's like a good one huh her all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/146">TS</a>]
00:02:28 ◼ ► pieces all the pieces will be in place [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/148">TS</a>]
00:02:30 ◼ ► yeah a hop with heffalumps the story can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/150">TS</a>]
00:02:33 ◼ ► really begin that that's when they go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/153">TS</a>]
00:02:35 ◼ ► hogwarts well Tony kill off the last of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/155">TS</a>]
00:02:40 ◼ ► entirely new cast the people you think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/160">TS</a>]
00:02:42 ◼ ► are being characters are not they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/162">TS</a>]
00:02:45 ◼ ► in fact it's an entire book of volume 72 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/165">TS</a>]
00:02:48 ◼ ► is entirely about raff the sweetling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/168">TS</a>]
00:02:49 ◼ ► awesome he finally gets his due he gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/169">TS</a>]
00:02:55 ◼ ► well as a call back there was one of our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/175">TS</a>]
00:02:56 ◼ ► previous episodes on remember which one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/176">TS</a>]
00:03:00 ◼ ► episodes so so dance with dragons i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/180">TS</a>]
00:03:02 ◼ ► think the first thing to talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/182">TS</a>]
00:03:03 ◼ ► about this book is that the previous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/183">TS</a>]
00:03:07 ◼ ► book a feast for crows is this weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/187">TS</a>]
00:03:10 ◼ ► really weird book where he took chunks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/190">TS</a>]
00:03:14 ◼ ► of the book he was writing and pulled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/194">TS</a>]
00:03:16 ◼ ► them out and published them in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/196">TS</a>]
00:03:18 ◼ ► not go ten years between books but as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/198">TS</a>]
00:03:21 ◼ ► result the structure of a dance with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/201">TS</a>]
00:03:23 ◼ ► dragons is very strange because sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/203">TS</a>]
00:03:27 ◼ ► midway through characters from the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/207">TS</a>]
00:03:29 ◼ ► book reappear and the first part of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/209">TS</a>]
00:03:32 ◼ ► book is in parallel with that other book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/212">TS</a>]
00:03:34 ◼ ► to the point where as I was as i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/214">TS</a>]
00:03:36 ◼ ► reading it I kept thinking you know in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/216">TS</a>]
00:03:38 ◼ ► the end they're going to need to just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/218">TS</a>]
00:03:39 ◼ ► tear the this book and the other book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/219">TS</a>]
00:03:41 ◼ ► apart stick them together in order for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/221">TS</a>]
00:03:43 ◼ ► anybody to make sense of it because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/223">TS</a>]
00:03:45 ◼ ► you know I it it's not a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/225">TS</a>]
00:03:48 ◼ ► experience you've got it's just it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/228">TS</a>]
00:03:51 ◼ ► very strange because because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/231">TS</a>]
00:03:53 ◼ ► characters just reappear midway through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/233">TS</a>]
00:03:54 ◼ ► and you're like oh right she was in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/234">TS</a>]
00:03:56 ◼ ► cliffhanger at the end of the last book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/236">TS</a>]
00:03:59 ◼ ► and then we didn't hear from her for 500 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/239">TS</a>]
00:04:03 ◼ ► experience if you actually have a red a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/243">TS</a>]
00:04:06 ◼ ► feast for crows in six years because as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/246">TS</a>]
00:04:08 ◼ ► it turns out you don't remember anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/248">TS</a>]
00:04:13 ◼ ► it's coming pretty much coming fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/253">TS</a>]
00:04:14 ◼ ► into it like it's a whole new story who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/254">TS</a>]
00:04:16 ◼ ► are as somebody who hadn't read a feast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/256">TS</a>]
00:04:20 ◼ ► for crows and then went into it read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/260">TS</a>]
00:04:22 ◼ ► and that immediately read Dance with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/262">TS</a>]
00:04:24 ◼ ► Dragons i think i finished feast for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/264">TS</a>]
00:04:25 ◼ ► crows three days before dance with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/265">TS</a>]
00:04:27 ◼ ► dragons came out it actually in my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/267">TS</a>]
00:04:33 ◼ ► to overlap but at the same time I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/273">TS</a>]
00:04:35 ◼ ► I've read enough weird fantasy books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/275">TS</a>]
00:04:37 ◼ ► weather like this is going to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/277">TS</a>]
00:04:38 ◼ ► present then this is going to be in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/278">TS</a>]
00:04:40 ◼ ► past and this is gonna yeah but what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/280">TS</a>]
00:04:41 ◼ ► would work better if you just took the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/281">TS</a>]
00:04:43 ◼ ► chapters in feast for crows and sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/283">TS</a>]
00:04:45 ◼ ► slaughtered them into dance with dragons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/285">TS</a>]
00:04:46 ◼ ► and made it one giant 1,500 pages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/286">TS</a>]
00:04:50 ◼ ► wednesday i mean to find better if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/290">TS</a>]
00:04:52 ◼ ► honestly I actually like telling the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/292">TS</a>]
00:04:56 ◼ ► stories and chunks because when that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/296">TS</a>]
00:04:59 ◼ ► what like when you think of what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/299">TS</a>]
00:05:00 ◼ ► one before it storm of swords is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/300">TS</a>]
00:05:02 ◼ ► the the big giant one argue that's yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/302">TS</a>]
00:05:04 ◼ ► 3 the the thing that really frustrates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/304">TS</a>]
00:05:07 ◼ ► me about the RR martin series is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/307">TS</a>]
00:05:12 ◼ ► characters and being like all right word [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/312">TS</a>]
00:05:14 ◼ ► cliffhanger and then we don't get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/314">TS</a>]
00:05:15 ◼ ► find out what happens to this person for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/315">TS</a>]
00:05:17 ◼ ► 500 pages because we're going to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/317">TS</a>]
00:05:21 ◼ ► actually having having a feast for crows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/321">TS</a>]
00:05:23 ◼ ► just focus mostly on the Lannisters and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/323">TS</a>]
00:05:26 ◼ ► focus on their story i actually found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/326">TS</a>]
00:05:27 ◼ ► really nice because it was very easy to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/327">TS</a>]
00:05:32 ◼ ► it's like all the characters you hate in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/332">TS</a>]
00:05:36 ◼ ► well and then they give you so much to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/336">TS</a>]
00:05:38 ◼ ► hate about them so and then yeah if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/338">TS</a>]
00:05:40 ◼ ► want you to hate what exactly Minnesota [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/340">TS</a>]
00:05:42 ◼ ► to its true but now I actually I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/342">TS</a>]
00:05:45 ◼ ► feel like it was a it was weird and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/345">TS</a>]
00:05:48 ◼ ► actually prefer it that way I i gotta [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/348">TS</a>]
00:05:49 ◼ ► say you know on sort of a connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/349">TS</a>]
00:05:52 ◼ ► topic two characters that I hate is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/352">TS</a>]
00:05:56 ◼ ► the dance with dragons also finally gave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/356">TS</a>]
00:05:58 ◼ ► me another narrator that I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/358">TS</a>]
00:05:59 ◼ ► liked or like as a character who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/359">TS</a>]
00:06:02 ◼ ► actually you know if you're positively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/362">TS</a>]
00:06:06 ◼ ► about I guess subject like might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/366">TS</a>]
00:06:08 ◼ ► stronger because i'm not sure there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/368">TS</a>]
00:06:09 ◼ ► more than then like one or two that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/369">TS</a>]
00:06:14 ◼ ► there are so many people there are so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/374">TS</a>]
00:06:15 ◼ ► many characters in these books are just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/375">TS</a>]
00:06:16 ◼ ► like you know you really read a chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/376">TS</a>]
00:06:19 ◼ ► from the point of view of Cersei and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/379">TS</a>]
00:06:20 ◼ ► you're like man I cannot get behind you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/380">TS</a>]
00:06:24 ◼ ► so who do you like I like Sir Barristan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/384">TS</a>]
00:06:29 ◼ ► ah sir Barristan using he's like he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/389">TS</a>]
00:06:33 ◼ ► stalwart dude right like he is he's one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/393">TS</a>]
00:06:36 ◼ ► of the few like legitimately honorable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/396">TS</a>]
00:06:38 ◼ ► people in this in this world and so it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/398">TS</a>]
00:06:41 ◼ ► is refreshing to every once in awhile in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/401">TS</a>]
00:06:46 ◼ ► characters from different shades of gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/406">TS</a>]
00:06:48 ◼ ► it is nice at least to get one character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/408">TS</a>]
00:06:50 ◼ ► who seems to have a code that they hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/410">TS</a>]
00:06:51 ◼ ► onto yes but he's challenged right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/411">TS</a>]
00:06:56 ◼ ► even he is conflicted and challenge but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/416">TS</a>]
00:06:58 ◼ ► in a way that like he tries to really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/418">TS</a>]
00:07:01 ◼ ► you know stick to his beliefs as he goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/421">TS</a>]
00:07:04 ◼ ► through that and anything that makes it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/424">TS</a>]
00:07:06 ◼ ► that keeps him from being boring I I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/426">TS</a>]
00:07:11 ◼ ► character who is who is someone that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/431">TS</a>]
00:07:13 ◼ ► can actually think I'll man you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/433">TS</a>]
00:07:15 ◼ ► hope this I hope this guy survives is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/435">TS</a>]
00:07:17 ◼ ► there's so many characters words like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/437">TS</a>]
00:07:18 ◼ ► man I don't care if you live or die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/438">TS</a>]
00:07:21 ◼ ► you know I actually really enjoyed ? [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/441">TS</a>]
00:07:27 ◼ ► complete 24 he's a complete idiot but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/447">TS</a>]
00:07:31 ◼ ► actually do we follow the fire the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/451">TS</a>]
00:07:38 ◼ ► yes yes okay if you would be dumb he got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/458">TS</a>]
00:07:42 ◼ ► eaten by a freaking dragon i know but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/462">TS</a>]
00:07:45 ◼ ► what he meant well no you know what i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/465">TS</a>]
00:07:48 ◼ ► find i found his entire character arc [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/468">TS</a>]
00:07:51 ◼ ► hilarious and the the fact that he you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/471">TS</a>]
00:07:55 ◼ ► know i'm going to travel across the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/475">TS</a>]
00:07:56 ◼ ► world to get a girl to marry me a girl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/476">TS</a>]
00:07:59 ◼ ► that I have never seen a girl who may or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/479">TS</a>]
00:08:01 ◼ ► I just we're going to just kill off [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/481">TS</a>]
00:08:03 ◼ ► random members of our party it was just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/483">TS</a>]
00:08:05 ◼ ► such an entertaining story to follow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/485">TS</a>]
00:08:07 ◼ ► he was so naive right but I guess part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/487">TS</a>]
00:08:10 ◼ ► of me felt like in a book that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/490">TS</a>]
00:08:11 ◼ ► thousand pages if you had cut out that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/491">TS</a>]
00:08:13 ◼ ► entire subplot would it have mattered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/493">TS</a>]
00:08:16 ◼ ► no no no not even remotely that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/496">TS</a>]
00:08:19 ◼ ► stops me in my tracks because they're I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/499">TS</a>]
00:08:21 ◼ ► think there are a lot of really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/501">TS</a>]
00:08:23 ◼ ► stories and arcs in this book and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/503">TS</a>]
00:08:26 ◼ ► just a boggles my mind that we we spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/506">TS</a>]
00:08:28 ◼ ► our time on on people like when Martel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/508">TS</a>]
00:08:33 ◼ ► situations they drew with him but I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/513">TS</a>]
00:08:35 ◼ ► to the end of it but really you brought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/515">TS</a>]
00:08:37 ◼ ► this guy in just so you can have them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/517">TS</a>]
00:08:38 ◼ ► put on you know basically burned from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/518">TS</a>]
00:08:42 ◼ ► illustrates the destructive power of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/522">TS</a>]
00:08:44 ◼ ► Dragons right I don't know if you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/524">TS</a>]
00:08:45 ◼ ► that illustration but that's kind of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/525">TS</a>]
00:08:47 ◼ ► purposes you know he goes after her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/527">TS</a>]
00:08:49 ◼ ► he thinks he can control these dragons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/529">TS</a>]
00:08:51 ◼ ► and he can't because only one person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/531">TS</a>]
00:08:55 ◼ ► we don't know it just seems a long way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/535">TS</a>]
00:08:57 ◼ ► to go to prove a point in defense of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/537">TS</a>]
00:08:59 ◼ ► Quentin Martel I think this sets up a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/539">TS</a>]
00:09:01 ◼ ► very nice thing for the other Targaryen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/541">TS</a>]
00:09:04 ◼ ► the because i feel like this is a this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/544">TS</a>]
00:09:06 ◼ ► is a crazy lady harder to call of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/546">TS</a>]
00:09:08 ◼ ► he's going to get murdered but i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/548">TS</a>]
00:09:10 ◼ ► it's an i think it's an interesting pre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/550">TS</a>]
00:09:11 ◼ ► parallel and I mean it also might as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/551">TS</a>]
00:09:14 ◼ ► well call him Prince red herring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/554">TS</a>]
00:09:18 ◼ ► Magoffin you know it cuts it kept the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/558">TS</a>]
00:09:20 ◼ ► early Denarius stuff from being flat out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/560">TS</a>]
00:09:22 ◼ ► boring so the first third of this book I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/562">TS</a>]
00:09:24 ◼ ► almost walked away and didn't pick it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/564">TS</a>]
00:09:26 ◼ ► back up and it was very very lucky that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/566">TS</a>]
00:09:29 ◼ ► it got interesting about i don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/569">TS</a>]
00:09:32 ◼ ► how many kindle pages in but it was at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/572">TS</a>]
00:09:34 ◼ ► least a third of the way through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/574">TS</a>]
00:09:35 ◼ ► book where it finally the story finally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/575">TS</a>]
00:09:36 ◼ ► picked up and was finally something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/576">TS</a>]
00:09:38 ◼ ► I felt like I could dig into that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/578">TS</a>]
00:09:40 ◼ ► didn't like her story because there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/580">TS</a>]
00:09:42 ◼ ► too much kind of municipal regulation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/582">TS</a>]
00:09:46 ◼ ► municipal municipal wrangling is fine as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/586">TS</a>]
00:09:50 ◼ ► somebody who you know watched all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/590">TS</a>]
00:09:52 ◼ ► seasons of The West Wing and loved it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/592">TS</a>]
00:09:54 ◼ ► but they made it very dull well I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/594">TS</a>]
00:09:58 ◼ ► back in forth and back and forth reopen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/598">TS</a>]
00:10:01 ◼ ► the fighting pits now I'm not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/601">TS</a>]
00:10:02 ◼ ► reopen the fighting pits no seriously [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/602">TS</a>]
00:10:03 ◼ ► reopen the fighting pits now I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/603">TS</a>]
00:10:05 ◼ ► going to do like it was like like 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/605">TS</a>]
00:10:06 ◼ ► pages of that don't forget the O but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/606">TS</a>]
00:10:08 ◼ ► what about my roguish secret lover that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/608">TS</a>]
00:10:11 ◼ ► you don't know where he's back however [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/611">TS</a>]
00:10:13 ◼ ► but I can't love it but I do love her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/613">TS</a>]
00:10:15 ◼ ► but I can't have a great about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/615">TS</a>]
00:10:16 ◼ ► fighting pits mention the red but I can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/616">TS</a>]
00:10:20 ◼ ► shoot we mentioned in earlier books I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/620">TS</a>]
00:10:24 ◼ ► mean I don't exist but he's mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/624">TS</a>]
00:10:27 ◼ ► yes but is he mentioned as like her her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/627">TS</a>]
00:10:31 ◼ ► yeah it's got like she's got like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/631">TS</a>]
00:10:33 ◼ ► crush on him or in the earlier book i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/633">TS</a>]
00:10:35 ◼ ► think and then you know it's not they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/635">TS</a>]
00:10:36 ◼ ► don't actually consummated until this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/636">TS</a>]
00:10:37 ◼ ► book buddies can you know he's clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/637">TS</a>]
00:10:40 ◼ ► got like some swagger behind him you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/640">TS</a>]
00:10:42 ◼ ► know he's trying to sort of seducers RZ [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/642">TS</a>]
00:10:44 ◼ ► swarthy and swashbuckling and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/644">TS</a>]
00:10:47 ◼ ► was going to complain about the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/647">TS</a>]
00:10:49 ◼ ► Dornish men and also the iron board that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/649">TS</a>]
00:10:53 ◼ ► i felt like one of my big complaints [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/653">TS</a>]
00:10:54 ◼ ► about the previous book is that we get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/654">TS</a>]
00:10:56 ◼ ► introduced to all of these people in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/656">TS</a>]
00:10:58 ◼ ► Dorne who who are like this there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/658">TS</a>]
00:11:00 ◼ ► like the sisters slow sir whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/660">TS</a>]
00:11:03 ◼ ► michael dorn he's awesome he's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/663">TS</a>]
00:11:07 ◼ ► elephant yeah it would've been better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/667">TS</a>]
00:11:09 ◼ ► without that if if the if the door had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/669">TS</a>]
00:11:12 ◼ ► been wharf and Klingons there is no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/672">TS</a>]
00:11:14 ◼ ► order in slaying a dragon that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/674">TS</a>]
00:11:17 ◼ ► yes to the opposition I I feel like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/677">TS</a>]
00:11:20 ◼ ► we're so we're how many thousands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/680">TS</a>]
00:11:22 ◼ ► pages into the series now and suddenly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/682">TS</a>]
00:11:24 ◼ ► he's opened these whole sections of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/684">TS</a>]
00:11:27 ◼ ► storyline that our characters we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/687">TS</a>]
00:11:29 ◼ ► never met before who are just sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/689">TS</a>]
00:11:31 ◼ ► like conniving and yet it also feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/691">TS</a>]
00:11:35 ◼ ► like they're they're doomed to failure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/695">TS</a>]
00:11:38 ◼ ► like when Martel I don't know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/698">TS</a>]
00:11:39 ◼ ► that's actually one of my frustrations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/699">TS</a>]
00:11:41 ◼ ► about this book and the previous book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/701">TS</a>]
00:11:42 ◼ ► that they're just big chunks that I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/702">TS</a>]
00:11:45 ◼ ► like if i had invested in that story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/705">TS</a>]
00:11:47 ◼ ► line since the beginning of the series I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/707">TS</a>]
00:11:49 ◼ ► might feel different about it but having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/709">TS</a>]
00:11:51 ◼ ► them be added it's a little bit like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/711">TS</a>]
00:11:53 ◼ ► when they added characters to lost and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/713">TS</a>]
00:11:58 ◼ ► four characters with missiles just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/718">TS</a>]
00:12:00 ◼ ► think they deliberately added I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/720">TS</a>]
00:12:02 ◼ ► door door has mentioned earlier on but i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/722">TS</a>]
00:12:05 ◼ ► think they added that he added them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/725">TS</a>]
00:12:08 ◼ ► counterweight because the idea being and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/728">TS</a>]
00:12:13 ◼ ► filling in some ways to make these guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/733">TS</a>]
00:12:14 ◼ ► like you know so powerful that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/734">TS</a>]
00:12:17 ◼ ► their allegiance will actually make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/737">TS</a>]
00:12:19 ◼ ► difference right in this war mean that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/739">TS</a>]
00:12:21 ◼ ► a lot of people are concerned like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/741">TS</a>]
00:12:23 ◼ ► of the Dornishmen why would some other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/743">TS</a>]
00:12:24 ◼ ► force or whatever like we could be in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/744">TS</a>]
00:12:26 ◼ ► trouble and so they're kind of supposed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/746">TS</a>]
00:12:29 ◼ ► to be a big deal but at the same time it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/749">TS</a>]
00:12:32 ◼ ► does seem kind of late for them to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/752">TS</a>]
00:12:35 ◼ ► into the picture and make a difference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/755">TS</a>]
00:12:38 ◼ ► once were five books and X thousand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/758">TS</a>]
00:12:40 ◼ ► pages in and during the whole--you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/760">TS</a>]
00:12:44 ◼ ► fighting pits that you need to have some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/764">TS</a>]
00:12:46 ◼ ► kind of anchor to the main storyline of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/766">TS</a>]
00:12:50 ◼ ► you know the Westeros war and stuff so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/770">TS</a>]
00:12:52 ◼ ► you don't get lost in this whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/772">TS</a>]
00:12:53 ◼ ► of ohh I there are people in masks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/773">TS</a>]
00:12:56 ◼ ► killing other people and slavers don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/776">TS</a>]
00:12:59 ◼ ► like me and all the stuff i see what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/779">TS</a>]
00:13:00 ◼ ► they were trying to do with the within a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/780">TS</a>]
00:13:03 ◼ ► narrow storyline and they're trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/783">TS</a>]
00:13:04 ◼ ► say oh yes ruling a city not the easiest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/784">TS</a>]
00:13:07 ◼ ► of work but again I feel like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/787">TS</a>]
00:13:09 ◼ ► proved that in feast for crows with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/789">TS</a>]
00:13:12 ◼ ► Circe's crazy downfall and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/792">TS</a>]
00:13:14 ◼ ► trying I'm not sure if they if the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/794">TS</a>]
00:13:16 ◼ ► initial intention was to contrast again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/796">TS</a>]
00:13:18 ◼ ► with your saying Jason about merging the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/798">TS</a>]
00:13:20 ◼ ► books contrasting Circe's crazy crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/800">TS</a>]
00:13:22 ◼ ► management of the government vs dean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/802">TS</a>]
00:13:25 ◼ ► heiresses still not very successful but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/805">TS</a>]
00:13:31 ◼ ► idealistic yeah that's the whole point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/811">TS</a>]
00:13:33 ◼ ► and cheese for us she set up to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/813">TS</a>]
00:13:35 ◼ ► another one of these characters that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/815">TS</a>]
00:13:37 ◼ ► were supposed to root for i think which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/817">TS</a>]
00:13:39 ◼ ► I it was weird because I felt like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/819">TS</a>]
00:13:40 ◼ ► coming in and i said this i think in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/820">TS</a>]
00:13:42 ◼ ► earlier podcast where we talked to a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/822">TS</a>]
00:13:44 ◼ ► game of thrones never really found [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/824">TS</a>]
00:13:46 ◼ ► myself sympathizing with I mean I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/826">TS</a>]
00:13:47 ◼ ► I I there was some sympathy in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/827">TS</a>]
00:13:49 ◼ ► like her situation being kind of crappy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/829">TS</a>]
00:13:53 ◼ ► predicated on the idea that like her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/833">TS</a>]
00:13:55 ◼ ► father who was insane was kicked out as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/835">TS</a>]
00:13:57 ◼ ► king it's like yeah I guess I don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/837">TS</a>]
00:13:59 ◼ ► why you should be in charge then I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/839">TS</a>]
00:14:01 ◼ ► and so I think we're supposed to to feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/841">TS</a>]
00:14:03 ◼ ► more positive about her after she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/843">TS</a>]
00:14:05 ◼ ► tried really hard to run this city and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/845">TS</a>]
00:14:10 ◼ ► I'm a real queen yeah I i think i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/850">TS</a>]
00:14:14 ◼ ► that's where there he was trying to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/854">TS</a>]
00:14:16 ◼ ► with that but it does get bogged down in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/856">TS</a>]
00:14:18 ◼ ► seemingly in my new show once she gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/858">TS</a>]
00:14:21 ◼ ► the chance to basically leave the city [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/861">TS</a>]
00:14:25 ◼ ► and go back to Westeros which is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/865">TS</a>]
00:14:27 ◼ ► she wants to do supposedly and she says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/867">TS</a>]
00:14:29 ◼ ► no I can't abandon my people and you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/869">TS</a>]
00:14:32 ◼ ► like no just you and that would be far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/872">TS</a>]
00:14:37 ◼ ► tell me more about the coup the tax code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/877">TS</a>]
00:14:42 ◼ ► yeah well I mean plus we do have we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/882">TS</a>]
00:14:44 ◼ ► have an intersection with the the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/884">TS</a>]
00:14:46 ◼ ► ish story which is the chi sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/886">TS</a>]
00:14:49 ◼ ► crosses paths with Tyrion right like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/889">TS</a>]
00:14:51 ◼ ► unknowingly but he does show up on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/891">TS</a>]
00:14:55 ◼ ► other content on content continent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/895">TS</a>]
00:14:58 ◼ ► well he's down in the bottom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/898">TS</a>]
00:15:02 ◼ ► yeah exactly and so they get and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/902">TS</a>]
00:15:04 ◼ ► can't think these two characters again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/904">TS</a>]
00:15:06 ◼ ► are set on this collision course and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/906">TS</a>]
00:15:08 ◼ ► then as so often happens in this books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/908">TS</a>]
00:15:10 ◼ ► they totally miss each other which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/910">TS</a>]
00:15:12 ◼ ► kind of annoying who knew that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/912">TS</a>]
00:15:13 ◼ ► dwarves and the pig and the dog it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/913">TS</a>]
00:15:17 ◼ ► the Attic oh yeah that the wedding at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/917">TS</a>]
00:15:20 ◼ ► babbling yeah vitally important very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/920">TS</a>]
00:15:25 ◼ ► checkouts coming there is that sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/925">TS</a>]
00:15:28 ◼ ► moment or the end where we're Tyrion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/928">TS</a>]
00:15:30 ◼ ► tells his his friend the other door fee [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/930">TS</a>]
00:15:35 ◼ ► they've been eat there's no way they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/935">TS</a>]
00:15:40 ◼ ► we have to go where we joined up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/940">TS</a>]
00:15:42 ◼ ► the mercenaries now poor little tiny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/942">TS</a>]
00:15:45 ◼ ► female dwarf I felt so terribly bad for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/945">TS</a>]
00:15:49 ◼ ► her the entire sheet you know a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/949">TS</a>]
00:15:51 ◼ ► RR Martin's women get screwed around in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/951">TS</a>]
00:15:54 ◼ ► this book but I I mean they do a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/954">TS</a>]
00:15:57 ◼ ► good job painting her as kind of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/957">TS</a>]
00:15:59 ◼ ► paragon of innocence and just watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/959">TS</a>]
00:16:02 ◼ ► it shatter away piece by terribly torn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/962">TS</a>]
00:16:06 ◼ ► off pieces just a little heartbreaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/966">TS</a>]
00:16:08 ◼ ► little said you know her brother was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/968">TS</a>]
00:16:11 ◼ ► killed horribly and and and all she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/971">TS</a>]
00:16:17 ◼ ► oh and the Empyrean won't love her no he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/977">TS</a>]
00:16:20 ◼ ► it's true i might be the noblest thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/980">TS</a>]
00:16:22 ◼ ► that he does though ya know it's true i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/982">TS</a>]
00:16:24 ◼ ► think and and you know I i really like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/984">TS</a>]
00:16:27 ◼ ► really have always liked period although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/987">TS</a>]
00:16:32 ◼ ► character who is it got many many gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/992">TS</a>]
00:16:35 ◼ ► areas but it's also very likeable and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/995">TS</a>]
00:16:38 ◼ ► think we talked about that a bit in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/998">TS</a>]
00:16:39 ◼ ► in the podcast about the TV show to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/999">TS</a>]
00:16:41 ◼ ► which is that you know his flaws are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1001">TS</a>]
00:16:44 ◼ ► that they're all up until you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1004">TS</a>]
00:16:46 ◼ ► end of the previous book he's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1006">TS</a>]
00:16:47 ◼ ► loyal to his family huh yeah right up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1007">TS</a>]
00:16:51 ◼ ► until a certain point basically up into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1011">TS</a>]
00:16:53 ◼ ► a point where he learns that that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1013">TS</a>]
00:16:55 ◼ ► not reciprocated right right you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1015">TS</a>]
00:16:56 ◼ ► that he was not treated with the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1016">TS</a>]
00:16:58 ◼ ► loyalty that he was giving a little long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1018">TS</a>]
00:17:00 ◼ ► so you know shoots dead wood cross but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1020">TS</a>]
00:17:03 ◼ ► yeah yeah yeah oh so I i have a question [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1023">TS</a>]
00:17:05 ◼ ► about about about Tyrion story in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1025">TS</a>]
00:17:08 ◼ ► book and it's where the horse go oh no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1028">TS</a>]
00:17:11 ◼ ► wait thats the question he asks 'i I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1031">TS</a>]
00:17:14 ◼ ► a little disappointed that his story was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1034">TS</a>]
00:17:16 ◼ ► this goes back to a point i think red [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1036">TS</a>]
00:17:18 ◼ ► made which is you know you wait so long [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1038">TS</a>]
00:17:20 ◼ ► to get back to that character and I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1040">TS</a>]
00:17:22 ◼ ► as if george RR martin is writing seven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1042">TS</a>]
00:17:24 ◼ ► novels or eight novels about all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1044">TS</a>]
00:17:26 ◼ ► characters in these books but you only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1046">TS</a>]
00:17:28 ◼ ► get up you know one seventh of the novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1048">TS</a>]
00:17:31 ◼ ► each time interleaved with all the other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1051">TS</a>]
00:17:34 ◼ ► novels I don't know so i was a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1054">TS</a>]
00:17:36 ◼ ► disappointed in interior story arc where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1056">TS</a>]
00:17:38 ◼ ► he's spent a lot of time traveling right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1058">TS</a>]
00:17:40 ◼ ► now not really doing anything brushes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1060">TS</a>]
00:17:44 ◼ ► with gray scale w/e i mean but the gray [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1064">TS</a>]
00:17:47 ◼ ► scales are far more interesting victim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1067">TS</a>]
00:17:48 ◼ ► elsewhere write and so sometimes i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1068">TS</a>]
00:17:51 ◼ ► i think the question for me is Tyrion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1071">TS</a>]
00:17:52 ◼ ► like if you look at the Arkin about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1072">TS</a>]
00:17:56 ◼ ► he traveled around a lot he introduced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1076">TS</a>]
00:17:59 ◼ ► us to a lot of other characters but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1079">TS</a>]
00:18:01 ◼ ► there's very little action that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1081">TS</a>]
00:18:03 ◼ ► undertakes right and that's that's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1083">TS</a>]
00:18:06 ◼ ► point after especially having such a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1086">TS</a>]
00:18:08 ◼ ► major action in the last book right is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1088">TS</a>]
00:18:11 ◼ ► you know if we have that culminating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1091">TS</a>]
00:18:14 ◼ ► point at the end of feast for crows and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1094">TS</a>]
00:18:15 ◼ ► and you know dance of dragons is largely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1095">TS</a>]
00:18:18 ◼ ► he's largely introspective right he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1098">TS</a>]
00:18:20 ◼ ► spends a lot of his time thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1100">TS</a>]
00:18:21 ◼ ► things and not actually doing much again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1101">TS</a>]
00:18:27 ◼ ► sweetnesses is that he tries i mean i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1107">TS</a>]
00:18:30 ◼ ► stand that you need to have character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1110">TS</a>]
00:18:32 ◼ ► arcs in a in a long series and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1112">TS</a>]
00:18:35 ◼ ► having the introspective moments and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1115">TS</a>]
00:18:36 ◼ ► having Denarius showing that she can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1116">TS</a>]
00:18:39 ◼ ► rule things and having Circe's fall from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1119">TS</a>]
00:18:41 ◼ ► Greece you know these are all important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1121">TS</a>]
00:18:43 ◼ ► things but I don't necessarily know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1123">TS</a>]
00:18:48 ◼ ► like I feel like we could have very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1128">TS</a>]
00:18:51 ◼ ► easily figured out that yes curious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1131">TS</a>]
00:18:53 ◼ ► Tyrion was feeling guilty and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1133">TS</a>]
00:18:55 ◼ ► feeling problems and and wants nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1135">TS</a>]
00:18:57 ◼ ► more than to find Tasha but she has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1137">TS</a>]
00:19:00 ◼ ► yesterday you know embark on this side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1140">TS</a>]
00:19:03 ◼ ► journey is as part of you know his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1143">TS</a>]
00:19:04 ◼ ► penance for fleeing fleeing west coast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1144">TS</a>]
00:19:08 ◼ ► but I feel like that could have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1148">TS</a>]
00:19:09 ◼ ► wrapped up by a different writer and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1149">TS</a>]
00:19:11 ◼ ► like two chapters even I mean Tyrion [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1151">TS</a>]
00:19:13 ◼ ► gets what six or seven chapters in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1153">TS</a>]
00:19:16 ◼ ► beginning middle end what beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1156">TS</a>]
00:19:18 ◼ ► middle end it's not that there's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1158">TS</a>]
00:19:20 ◼ ► there's a very definite structure that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1160">TS</a>]
00:19:21 ◼ ► you can do here but it feels like a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1161">TS</a>]
00:19:24 ◼ ► yes very much does well it'sit's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1164">TS</a>]
00:19:26 ◼ ► middle for Tyrion in this book it's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1166">TS</a>]
00:19:28 ◼ ► metal for like this whole book is all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1168">TS</a>]
00:19:30 ◼ ► middle really yeah a lot of it is i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1170">TS</a>]
00:19:32 ◼ ► granted there are I you know having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1172">TS</a>]
00:19:35 ◼ ► having been critical I think there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1175">TS</a>]
00:19:36 ◼ ► things i really enjoyed um I no no no he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1176">TS</a>]
00:19:40 ◼ ► that's right i didn't enjoy anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1180">TS</a>]
00:19:41 ◼ ► about this book no I I mean all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1181">TS</a>]
00:19:45 ◼ ► well okay hardest john-john storyline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1185">TS</a>]
00:19:48 ◼ ► uh-oh jon jon is one of the other most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1188">TS</a>]
00:19:50 ◼ ► of the characters see the problem with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1190">TS</a>]
00:19:51 ◼ ► John storyline as much as you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1191">TS</a>]
00:19:54 ◼ ► guess maybe my point of view is tempered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1194">TS</a>]
00:19:55 ◼ ► by looking back and thinking about where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1195">TS</a>]
00:20:01 ◼ ► betrayed oh yeah whatever whatever your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1201">TS</a>]
00:20:04 ◼ ► sister will appear otherwise she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1204">TS</a>]
00:20:06 ◼ ► my sister really well it's similar but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1206">TS</a>]
00:20:09 ◼ ► if you will be betrayed you don't had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1209">TS</a>]
00:20:12 ◼ ► well I mean I thought I really actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1212">TS</a>]
00:20:15 ◼ ► kind of in you know I liked his dilemma [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1215">TS</a>]
00:20:17 ◼ ► right with trying to figure out like all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1217">TS</a>]
00:20:20 ◼ ► should I you know bring the wild things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1220">TS</a>]
00:20:21 ◼ ► over he's like all right I'm gonna do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1221">TS</a>]
00:20:22 ◼ ► this and like everybody else was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1222">TS</a>]
00:20:26 ◼ ► Graham it was any but it was just its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1226">TS</a>]
00:20:30 ◼ ► decision that from you know from John's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1230">TS</a>]
00:20:31 ◼ ► perspective been seeing it through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1231">TS</a>]
00:20:32 ◼ ► John's perspective like this is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1232">TS</a>]
00:20:36 ◼ ► this this seems like a you know I get an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1236">TS</a>]
00:20:37 ◼ ► unpopular decision but one that needs to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1237">TS</a>]
00:20:39 ◼ ► be made and there is a good argument [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1239">TS</a>]
00:20:41 ◼ ► that like these least these people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1241">TS</a>]
00:20:44 ◼ ► even if they don't always you know see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1244">TS</a>]
00:20:45 ◼ ► eye-to-eye with us they're not creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1245">TS</a>]
00:20:47 ◼ ► dead things you know stalking us but at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1247">TS</a>]
00:20:51 ◼ ► the same time yet there is a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1251">TS</a>]
00:20:52 ◼ ► there's a lot of wrangling there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1252">TS</a>]
00:20:55 ◼ ► of back-and-forth with him I think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1255">TS</a>]
00:20:56 ◼ ► storyline mirrors Denarius is storyline [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1256">TS</a>]
00:20:59 ◼ ► as well right because they're both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1259">TS</a>]
00:21:00 ◼ ► struggling Colin struggling with our and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1260">TS</a>]
00:21:03 ◼ ► you know doing kind of administrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1263">TS</a>]
00:21:04 ◼ ► things and getting coming to grips with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1264">TS</a>]
00:21:06 ◼ ► decisions and then getting our trade and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1266">TS</a>]
00:21:10 ◼ ► everyone's like oh what's going on are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1270">TS</a>]
00:21:12 ◼ ► always so inevitably that you know for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1272">TS</a>]
00:21:13 ◼ ► books down the road they can get married [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1273">TS</a>]
00:21:15 ◼ ► right and because of Westeros killer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1275">TS</a>]
00:21:17 ◼ ► kill everybody else engine light right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1277">TS</a>]
00:21:20 ◼ ► because he's the actual air of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1280">TS</a>]
00:21:22 ◼ ► Targaryen and his mother is Ned sister [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1282">TS</a>]
00:21:25 ◼ ► and his father is the Prince Targaryen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1285">TS</a>]
00:21:29 ◼ ► who's who starts off the the whole war [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1289">TS</a>]
00:21:32 ◼ ► that leads to the unit opposing the king [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1292">TS</a>]
00:21:35 ◼ ► and everything right are we still going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1295">TS</a>]
00:21:40 ◼ ► what's up that's plausible theory I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1300">TS</a>]
00:21:44 ◼ ► information about John's mother though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1304">TS</a>]
00:21:48 ◼ ► I feel like there's that there's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1308">TS</a>]
00:21:49 ◼ ► entire story about John's mother is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1309">TS</a>]
00:21:52 ◼ ► there i don't think so there's all i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1312">TS</a>]
00:21:55 ◼ ► remember when i think of John's mother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1315">TS</a>]
00:21:57 ◼ ► all I remember is the first episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1317">TS</a>]
00:21:59 ◼ ► the TV show which shall be like don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1319">TS</a>]
00:22:01 ◼ ► talk about your mother when I come back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1321">TS</a>]
00:22:04 ◼ ► yeah yeah no I said I think about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1324">TS</a>]
00:22:07 ◼ ► jokes nose and because he's he's stabbed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1327">TS</a>]
00:22:10 ◼ ► me and the failure and when I always [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1330">TS</a>]
00:22:13 ◼ ► friends so it was stabbed in the back by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1333">TS</a>]
00:22:14 ◼ ► all his resume so here's what to do with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1334">TS</a>]
00:22:17 ◼ ► it is my problem with it is the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1337">TS</a>]
00:22:19 ◼ ► problem i had with the the searcy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1339">TS</a>]
00:22:21 ◼ ► cliffhanger in the last book which is in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1341">TS</a>]
00:22:23 ◼ ► Game of Thrones they chopped off his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1343">TS</a>]
00:22:26 ◼ ► head and he's dead and that's and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1346">TS</a>]
00:22:28 ◼ ► you know towards the end of the book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1348">TS</a>]
00:22:29 ◼ ► you like how they're going to get out of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1349">TS</a>]
00:22:30 ◼ ► this one oh geez he's dead but but the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1350">TS</a>]
00:22:33 ◼ ► seriously thing and especially with John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1353">TS</a>]
00:22:36 ◼ ► I feel like there's so much run up to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1356">TS</a>]
00:22:38 ◼ ► and it's like it's a cliffhanger and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1358">TS</a>]
00:22:39 ◼ ► there's no way I mean either he's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1359">TS</a>]
00:22:41 ◼ ► dead or he's going to transfer his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1361">TS</a>]
00:22:45 ◼ ► whatever but so it feels so artificial [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1365">TS</a>]
00:22:49 ◼ ► that it leads to this point and it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1369">TS</a>]
00:22:52 ◼ ► cliffhanger that we know is not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1372">TS</a>]
00:22:57 ◼ ► it's very clear that he was dead and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1377">TS</a>]
00:22:58 ◼ ► coming back so I felt like that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1378">TS</a>]
00:23:01 ◼ ► really unnecessary that if that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1381">TS</a>]
00:23:03 ◼ ► you're building up to is this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1383">TS</a>]
00:23:05 ◼ ► shocking moment that you're not going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1385">TS</a>]
00:23:09 ◼ ► you know I i would really love i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1389">TS</a>]
00:23:11 ◼ ► thinking just think about this what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1391">TS</a>]
00:23:12 ◼ ► you're saying is that i really would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1392">TS</a>]
00:23:13 ◼ ► love this to be end up being the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1393">TS</a>]
00:23:15 ◼ ► of all the middlemen who you know keep [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1395">TS</a>]
00:23:18 ◼ ► everything running and like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1398">TS</a>]
00:23:19 ◼ ► they're quite unsung victories I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1399">TS</a>]
00:23:21 ◼ ► thinking again about one of my other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1401">TS</a>]
00:23:23 ◼ ► favorite characters Davos Seaworth try [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1403">TS</a>]
00:23:25 ◼ ► to get any night this book i love who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1405">TS</a>]
00:23:31 ◼ ► discover he wasn't killed it's all part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1411">TS</a>]
00:23:33 ◼ ► of a plan how you knew he wasn't killed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1413">TS</a>]
00:23:35 ◼ ► on the last yeah but what I was like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1415">TS</a>]
00:23:38 ◼ ► but there's there's every possibility [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1418">TS</a>]
00:23:39 ◼ ► even realize what we've seen and liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1419">TS</a>]
00:23:42 ◼ ► he's not that central of a character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1422">TS</a>]
00:23:44 ◼ ► he's a very likeable character but he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1424">TS</a>]
00:23:45 ◼ ► not like a central character um and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1425">TS</a>]
00:23:49 ◼ ► i don't know i like the idea of all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1429">TS</a>]
00:23:50 ◼ ► middlemen being like yeah hey we're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1430">TS</a>]
00:23:52 ◼ ► the big guys in decision-making you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1432">TS</a>]
00:23:54 ◼ ► big guys and power making all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1434">TS</a>]
00:23:55 ◼ ► decisions we just kind of slipped from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1435">TS</a>]
00:23:56 ◼ ► place to place but in the end you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1436">TS</a>]
00:23:58 ◼ ► we're probably the most important people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1438">TS</a>]
00:24:00 ◼ ► here and i also thought I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1440">TS</a>]
00:24:03 ◼ ► what do you guys think I want to ask you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1443">TS</a>]
00:24:10 ◼ ► creepy i never thought i would feel any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1450">TS</a>]
00:24:13 ◼ ► sort of pity for beyond great joy but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1453">TS</a>]
00:24:18 ◼ ► boy did I pity at pool yeah after that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1458">TS</a>]
00:24:24 ◼ ► it was interesting I mean it was brutal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1464">TS</a>]
00:24:26 ◼ ► and and disturbing this you know that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1466">TS</a>]
00:24:30 ◼ ► was a great story with you if you take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1470">TS</a>]
00:24:31 ◼ ► it was it was it was fascinating via the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1471">TS</a>]
00:24:34 ◼ ► best part of the book we talk about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1474">TS</a>]
00:24:35 ◼ ► middles beyond healing story came to an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1475">TS</a>]
00:24:39 ◼ ► end right he betrayed he betrayed the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1479">TS</a>]
00:24:42 ◼ ► Starks and and all that and history came [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1482">TS</a>]
00:24:45 ◼ ► to an end and and then with this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1485">TS</a>]
00:24:47 ◼ ► we get a complete story arc from feeling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1487">TS</a>]
00:24:50 ◼ ► where he starts at the lowest of the low [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1490">TS</a>]
00:24:52 ◼ ► points and by the end is is calling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1492">TS</a>]
00:24:57 ◼ ► himself by his own name again and has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1497">TS</a>]
00:25:00 ◼ ► taken a take the women and basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1500">TS</a>]
00:25:02 ◼ ► jumped jumped out of the castle to run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1502">TS</a>]
00:25:05 ◼ ► away to to the King means tried he tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1505">TS</a>]
00:25:08 ◼ ► to atone right he's actually trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1508">TS</a>]
00:25:10 ◼ ► so yeah yeah after he's and he's broken [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1510">TS</a>]
00:25:13 ◼ ► and battered and that and that that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1513">TS</a>]
00:25:14 ◼ ► arterial knocked out yeah like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1514">TS</a>]
00:25:16 ◼ ► that's he starts in one place and ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1516">TS</a>]
00:25:19 ◼ ► up in another yeah thats oh so in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1519">TS</a>]
00:25:21 ◼ ► book full of medals i really loved that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1521">TS</a>]
00:25:24 ◼ ► the feelings story was an actual story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1524">TS</a>]
00:25:28 ◼ ► with progression and and consequences [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1528">TS</a>]
00:25:30 ◼ ► and yeah I i think yeah maybe that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1530">TS</a>]
00:25:35 ◼ ► trying to think of any others yeah we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1535">TS</a>]
00:25:36 ◼ ► got a couple chapters here and there for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1536">TS</a>]
00:25:38 ◼ ► some people who were in feast for crows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1538">TS</a>]
00:25:39 ◼ ► we got a little we get like one Jamie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1539">TS</a>]
00:25:41 ◼ ► chapter maybe to Jamie all that happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1541">TS</a>]
00:25:44 ◼ ► with Jamie he goes to negotiate with me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1544">TS</a>]
00:25:46 ◼ ► with river i well know we thought that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1546">TS</a>]
00:25:49 ◼ ► we thought that uh that the debris and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1549">TS</a>]
00:25:55 ◼ ► yeah there's no way that but she shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1555">TS</a>]
00:25:57 ◼ ► up at the end this question I mean she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1557">TS</a>]
00:25:59 ◼ ► might be dead and brought back because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1559">TS</a>]
00:26:01 ◼ ► that's what you happening but we did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1561">TS</a>]
00:26:03 ◼ ► they ever resolved i can honestly can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1563">TS</a>]
00:26:06 ◼ ► remember because at the end of at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1566">TS</a>]
00:26:09 ◼ ► cliffhanger where it turns out you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1569">TS</a>]
00:26:11 ◼ ► cabins alive right yeah well she's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1571">TS</a>]
00:26:13 ◼ ► great she's like the Grey Lady Rainicorn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1573">TS</a>]
00:26:15 ◼ ► she's stealing hard and she's gotten [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1575">TS</a>]
00:26:19 ◼ ► resurrected and so she appears and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1579">TS</a>]
00:26:24 ◼ ► so that that's just what we don't see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1584">TS</a>]
00:26:25 ◼ ► her appear again after that right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1585">TS</a>]
00:26:27 ◼ ► yeah yeah we do she she appears your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1587">TS</a>]
00:26:29 ◼ ► cruise i can't speak right or doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1589">TS</a>]
00:26:31 ◼ ► speak clearly and and that's uh that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1591">TS</a>]
00:26:34 ◼ ► obviously where because we see that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1594">TS</a>]
00:26:36 ◼ ► Breanna it's with the the midst of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1596">TS</a>]
00:26:39 ◼ ► Brotherhood yeah the guy who turned out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1599">TS</a>]
00:26:42 ◼ ► log beric Dondarrion and his rights [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1602">TS</a>]
00:26:45 ◼ ► exactly so so I'm thoresen all those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1605">TS</a>]
00:26:49 ◼ ► right guys right so that's where Jamie's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1609">TS</a>]
00:26:54 ◼ ► going in the end brands related and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1614">TS</a>]
00:26:56 ◼ ► that but that that's clearly just you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1616">TS</a>]
00:27:00 ◼ ► know bridge by chapter to keep it alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1620">TS</a>]
00:27:02 ◼ ► and not dealing with it right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1622">TS</a>]
00:27:04 ◼ ► whereas some of these other storylines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1624">TS</a>]
00:27:06 ◼ ► like I was going to bring up brand who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1626">TS</a>]
00:27:10 ◼ ► yeah is back and he didn't he that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1630">TS</a>]
00:27:13 ◼ ► bizarre story because he's like LED he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1633">TS</a>]
00:27:16 ◼ ► and then some people from the lowlands [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1636">TS</a>]
00:27:18 ◼ ► are led into the far north by a guy who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1638">TS</a>]
00:27:21 ◼ ► is apparently a essentially a a dead guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1641">TS</a>]
00:27:23 ◼ ► or a white Walker or whatever he is he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1643">TS</a>]
00:27:25 ◼ ► a he said he's an animated corpse but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1645">TS</a>]
00:27:28 ◼ ► residents functional yeah and we'll just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1648">TS</a>]
00:27:31 ◼ ► as a ranger and arguably I mean you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1651">TS</a>]
00:27:34 ◼ ► my first thought was that it's his uncle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1654">TS</a>]
00:27:38 ◼ ► disappearances what book one yahoo news [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1658">TS</a>]
00:27:40 ◼ ► be giving up my first book yeah yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1660">TS</a>]
00:27:42 ◼ ► very beginning so um that's weird and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1662">TS</a>]
00:27:44 ◼ ► then and there but that's not the weird [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1664">TS</a>]
00:27:46 ◼ ► part because then there's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1666">TS</a>]
00:27:48 ◼ ► well scene where there's like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1668">TS</a>]
00:27:49 ◼ ► hillside and it's covered in snow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1669">TS</a>]
00:27:51 ◼ ► they try to go up it turns out there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1671">TS</a>]
00:27:52 ◼ ► like dead bodies everywhere in the snow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1672">TS</a>]
00:27:54 ◼ ► and they tried to kill them and they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1674">TS</a>]
00:27:55 ◼ ► into the cave and then Brandon his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1675">TS</a>]
00:27:59 ◼ ► friends get to meet with the tree people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1679">TS</a>]
00:28:00 ◼ ► who are the children the children which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1680">TS</a>]
00:28:03 ◼ ► is that that's that was weird stuff that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1683">TS</a>]
00:28:06 ◼ ► was very creepy and then the a/c the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1686">TS</a>]
00:28:09 ◼ ► past two trees yet if they can kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1689">TS</a>]
00:28:12 ◼ ► interact but they can't really be CRO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1692">TS</a>]
00:28:14 ◼ ► and animal residents to write because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1694">TS</a>]
00:28:16 ◼ ► he interacts with with a peon about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1696">TS</a>]
00:28:20 ◼ ► point in the godswood he actually sees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1700">TS</a>]
00:28:22 ◼ ► that my thing is it is it with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1702">TS</a>]
00:28:25 ◼ ► Cersei to I mean there there are several [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1705">TS</a>]
00:28:27 ◼ ► points right right yeah our by trees and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1707">TS</a>]
00:28:29 ◼ ► it's like it is that as if the tree is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1709">TS</a>]
00:28:31 ◼ ► looking at me it's like that's because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1711">TS</a>]
00:28:33 ◼ ► it is great the tree just didn't agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1713">TS</a>]
00:28:37 ◼ ► you know brands whole storyline here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1717">TS</a>]
00:28:39 ◼ ► actually reminds me of something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1719">TS</a>]
00:28:40 ◼ ► happens and wise man's fear which I'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1720">TS</a>]
00:28:42 ◼ ► save for the wine Spencer section of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1722">TS</a>]
00:28:44 ◼ ► podcast but it's their parallels the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1724">TS</a>]
00:28:49 ◼ ► yeah Westeros well um and then we have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1729">TS</a>]
00:28:53 ◼ ► couple chapters from Astra Greyjoy's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1733">TS</a>]
00:28:57 ◼ ► Greyjoy's in general career choice i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1737">TS</a>]
00:28:59 ◼ ► don't understand she's kind of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1739">TS</a>]
00:29:01 ◼ ► interesting character I like her as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1741">TS</a>]
00:29:04 ◼ ► unfortunately didn't give her a Watson [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1744">TS</a>]
00:29:05 ◼ ► yeah I liked her as a character before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1745">TS</a>]
00:29:08 ◼ ► she got her own point of view I liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1748">TS</a>]
00:29:10 ◼ ► her when we initially met her through so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1750">TS</a>]
00:29:14 ◼ ► yeah I had a new she was happy when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1754">TS</a>]
00:29:18 ◼ ► uninteresting things in the last book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1758">TS</a>]
00:29:19 ◼ ► where it's where there's going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1759">TS</a>]
00:29:21 ◼ ► king smooth and we're gonna pick a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1761">TS</a>]
00:29:22 ◼ ► and she says I'll be the king and those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1762">TS</a>]
00:29:25 ◼ ► they know you're a girl you can't be the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1765">TS</a>]
00:29:27 ◼ ► king and why you are get you and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1767">TS</a>]
00:29:29 ◼ ► they send her off and you mean yeah so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1769">TS</a>]
00:29:32 ◼ ► i took and we have a while to remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1772">TS</a>]
00:29:34 ◼ ► who she was because that wasn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1774">TS</a>]
00:29:37 ◼ ► interesting the Ironborn of the Dornish [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1777">TS</a>]
00:29:38 ◼ ► do not interest me only Michael Dore the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1778">TS</a>]
00:29:41 ◼ ► Dornish makes sense to me because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1781">TS</a>]
00:29:43 ◼ ► at least have some power and they seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1783">TS</a>]
00:29:45 ◼ ► to be interweaved with the Targaryen xin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1785">TS</a>]
00:29:48 ◼ ► a to a great extent i mean right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1788">TS</a>]
00:29:50 ◼ ► yeah I have no idea why the Ironborn in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1790">TS</a>]
00:29:53 ◼ ► this book like they're what one or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1793">TS</a>]
00:29:55 ◼ ► chapters with Victorian or Victarion or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1795">TS</a>]
00:29:58 ◼ ► yeah all of the other great joys I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1798">TS</a>]
00:30:00 ◼ ► no idea is trying to do the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1800">TS</a>]
00:30:04 ◼ ► everybody's trying to go Mary Mary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1804">TS</a>]
00:30:06 ◼ ► Dennis we could understand that LOL and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1806">TS</a>]
00:30:12 ◼ ► we got a couple of chapters of area who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1812">TS</a>]
00:30:14 ◼ ► I do well I love that remains one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1814">TS</a>]
00:30:17 ◼ ► favorite character that again we had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1817">TS</a>]
00:30:18 ◼ ► that kind of false cliff later was like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1818">TS</a>]
00:30:22 ◼ ► oh but it's just temporary she's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1822">TS</a>]
00:30:27 ◼ ► I mean she's joined she's trying to join [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1827">TS</a>]
00:30:29 ◼ ► an organization that's all about false [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1829">TS</a>]
00:30:31 ◼ ► facing I mean you kind of knew from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1831">TS</a>]
00:30:33 ◼ ► beginning you know I just I i have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1833">TS</a>]
00:30:40 ◼ ► you know with one exception i have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1840">TS</a>]
00:30:41 ◼ ► idea why the Greyjoy's are have been in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1841">TS</a>]
00:30:43 ◼ ► this series from the start because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1843">TS</a>]
00:30:45 ◼ ► everything i read is just kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1845">TS</a>]
00:30:47 ◼ ► okay what we already have X people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1847">TS</a>]
00:30:49 ◼ ► competing for the throne it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1849">TS</a>]
00:30:51 ◼ ► real it would really suck if after you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1851">TS</a>]
00:30:53 ◼ ► know 8,000 pages it turned out that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1853">TS</a>]
00:30:55 ◼ ► only reason we have to we have to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1855">TS</a>]
00:30:58 ◼ ► nish people let me and the Greyjoy's is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1858">TS</a>]
00:31:00 ◼ ► because in the end you know they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1860">TS</a>]
00:31:03 ◼ ► needed for some plot complication and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1863">TS</a>]
00:31:05 ◼ ► therefore we've spent a thousand pages [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1865">TS</a>]
00:31:08 ◼ ► on them because getting into something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1868">TS</a>]
00:31:09 ◼ ► that was very soon and of arcane Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1869">TS</a>]
00:31:11 ◼ ► Westeros law that says when there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1871">TS</a>]
00:31:14 ◼ ► two or three kids competing for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1874">TS</a>]
00:31:16 ◼ ► undisputed that the ceremony can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1876">TS</a>]
00:31:19 ◼ ► right on Tuesday that's that's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1879">TS</a>]
00:31:21 ◼ ► Daenerys from having like learned all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1881">TS</a>]
00:31:22 ◼ ► her like lawyerly stuff running that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1882">TS</a>]
00:31:24 ◼ ► city with you call over to a loophole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1884">TS</a>]
00:31:26 ◼ ► whatever Honor I have Jackie it all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1886">TS</a>]
00:31:28 ◼ ► turns into a courtroom or on our western [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1888">TS</a>]
00:31:30 ◼ ► sea god pretty much know what the aria [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1890">TS</a>]
00:31:33 ◼ ► stuff is good because that's a great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1893">TS</a>]
00:31:34 ◼ ► character and again it there's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1894">TS</a>]
00:31:37 ◼ ► really much of an arc there but there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1897">TS</a>]
00:31:39 ◼ ► a little bit i mean she's learning she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1899">TS</a>]
00:31:41 ◼ ► learns she learns how to follow the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1901">TS</a>]
00:31:43 ◼ ► and and ascend assassinate him basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1903">TS</a>]
00:31:46 ◼ ► so that she she has some progression in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1906">TS</a>]
00:31:49 ◼ ► it's a little frustrating because her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1909">TS</a>]
00:31:52 ◼ ► faceless assassin but it's there's no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1912">TS</a>]
00:31:54 ◼ ► doubt that that's important because we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1914">TS</a>]
00:31:56 ◼ ► had the whole thing in the last book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1916">TS</a>]
00:31:57 ◼ ► where you know where they're learning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1917">TS</a>]
00:31:59 ◼ ► the wherewithal the Meister's train and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1919">TS</a>]
00:32:01 ◼ ► and and there's the guy who takes the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1921">TS</a>]
00:32:04 ◼ ► form of the other guy who gets killed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1924">TS</a>]
00:32:06 ◼ ► the prologue and all that's it it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1926">TS</a>]
00:32:08 ◼ ► clear that that's really important for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1928">TS</a>]
00:32:12 ◼ ► you know again it's just that's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1932">TS</a>]
00:32:13 ◼ ► interesting point well now that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1933">TS</a>]
00:32:15 ◼ ► brought that up in the prologue samples [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1935">TS</a>]
00:32:16 ◼ ► right every book has a prologue and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1936">TS</a>]
00:32:18 ◼ ► epilogue and they're always pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1938">TS</a>]
00:32:19 ◼ ► like one-offs right one-off narrators [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1939">TS</a>]
00:32:21 ◼ ► and dance of dragons is no different at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1941">TS</a>]
00:32:24 ◼ ► the beginning we had that the wildling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1944">TS</a>]
00:32:26 ◼ ► skin-changer right is there several the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1946">TS</a>]
00:32:30 ◼ ► wolves and and tries to eat people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1950">TS</a>]
00:32:33 ◼ ► crazy stuff and then doesn't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1953">TS</a>]
00:32:35 ◼ ► become he's mentioned i believe a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1955">TS</a>]
00:32:37 ◼ ► times by the wild things but not seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1957">TS</a>]
00:32:39 ◼ ► again right and then at the end we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1959">TS</a>]
00:32:43 ◼ ► sir Kevin who is it that is actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1963">TS</a>]
00:32:47 ◼ ► more of an interesting situation because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1967">TS</a>]
00:32:49 ◼ ► we also get the surprise return of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1969">TS</a>]
00:32:51 ◼ ► another character who is totally not in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1971">TS</a>]
00:32:53 ◼ ► varus right we sort of squirrels himself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1973">TS</a>]
00:32:56 ◼ ► way I kind of like the app me again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1976">TS</a>]
00:32:58 ◼ ► he saved all the good stuff in the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1978">TS</a>]
00:33:00 ◼ ► it's like I wanted to read the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1980">TS</a>]
00:33:01 ◼ ► the book and like that's all the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1981">TS</a>]
00:33:02 ◼ ► part I cared about but you know we have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1982">TS</a>]
00:33:04 ◼ ► basically the death of a couple major [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1984">TS</a>]
00:33:05 ◼ ► character is there and kill Vera skills [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1985">TS</a>]
00:33:08 ◼ ► pycelle and Kevin Lannister right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1988">TS</a>]
00:33:11 ◼ ► because it's all part of the plot to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1991">TS</a>]
00:33:16 ◼ ► fuck somebody claimed his own baby is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1996">TS</a>]
00:33:18 ◼ ► playing his own game to write like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/1998">TS</a>]
00:33:20 ◼ ► clearly just like he's got he's got an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2000">TS</a>]
00:33:22 ◼ ► agenda right I was like to him I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2002">TS</a>]
00:33:27 ◼ ► untrustworthy I think he's a I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2007">TS</a>]
00:33:30 ◼ ► fascinating yeah it's nice to see him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2010">TS</a>]
00:33:33 ◼ ► so with all of this all of the said you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2013">TS</a>]
00:33:38 ◼ ► know and there is so much as it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2018">TS</a>]
00:33:42 ◼ ► you know I want to ask about this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2022">TS</a>]
00:33:45 ◼ ► in the context of the series because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2025">TS</a>]
00:33:46 ◼ ► there's really only there's no other way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2026">TS</a>]
00:33:48 ◼ ► to enjoy it or talk about it or anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2028">TS</a>]
00:33:51 ◼ ► did you guys get the sense that because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2031">TS</a>]
00:33:57 ◼ ► beginning he says oh it's a second book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2037">TS</a>]
00:33:59 ◼ ► series so two more books will all be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2039">TS</a>]
00:34:01 ◼ ► wrapped up i read this book thinking at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2041">TS</a>]
00:34:06 ◼ ► this will take 10 more books because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2046">TS</a>]
00:34:09 ◼ ► the story the fact that well now i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2049">TS</a>]
00:34:13 ◼ ► concerned that if if he thinks he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2053">TS</a>]
00:34:15 ◼ ► two books to tell the rest of the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2055">TS</a>]
00:34:16 ◼ ► i'm going to feel like we invested it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2056">TS</a>]
00:34:21 ◼ ► resolution that takes a hundred because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2061">TS</a>]
00:34:23 ◼ ► because we're all your aren't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2063">TS</a>]
00:34:25 ◼ ► you're gonna feel a little bit that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2065">TS</a>]
00:34:27 ◼ ► there's a point where it's just like we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2067">TS</a>]
00:34:29 ◼ ► have to skip forward like oh yeah two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2069">TS</a>]
00:34:32 ◼ ► yeah it just it seems like the pacing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2072">TS</a>]
00:34:34 ◼ ► all off if if this is booked five of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2074">TS</a>]
00:34:37 ◼ ► seven because we don't have a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2077">TS</a>]
00:34:40 ◼ ► watching that watching the TV show with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2080">TS</a>]
00:34:43 ◼ ► my wife she's got these expectations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2083">TS</a>]
00:34:45 ◼ ► about how to eros is gonna come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2085">TS</a>]
00:34:47 ◼ ► westeros a-- i'm sitting in she's never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2087">TS</a>]
00:34:50 ◼ ► gonna come to westeros she's still not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2090">TS</a>]
00:34:55 ◼ ► it's like you know if he can he can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2095">TS</a>]
00:34:58 ◼ ► spend book six kind of bringing everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2098">TS</a>]
00:35:00 ◼ ► together and then book 7 which could be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2100">TS</a>]
00:35:02 ◼ ► like you know 4,000 pages finishing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2102">TS</a>]
00:35:05 ◼ ► whole thing and tying itself is just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2105">TS</a>]
00:35:07 ◼ ► big party except heart one book 7 part 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2107">TS</a>]
00:35:10 ◼ ► and exactly like the Harry Potter movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2110">TS</a>]
00:35:13 ◼ ► yeah exactly yeah so I don't I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2113">TS</a>]
00:35:15 ◼ ► could do it I don't know if he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2115">TS</a>]
00:35:17 ◼ ► disciplined enough to do it because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2117">TS</a>]
00:35:20 ◼ ► enjoys writing this stuff that he thinks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2120">TS</a>]
00:35:22 ◼ ► about all this cool stuff he's like oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2122">TS</a>]
00:35:23 ◼ ► this is so cool i need to write about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2123">TS</a>]
00:35:25 ◼ ► you know two characters that I've never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2125">TS</a>]
00:35:27 ◼ ► heard of but not have this complicated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2127">TS</a>]
00:35:29 ◼ ► roster reeling exactly and that's all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2129">TS</a>]
00:35:32 ◼ ► any it's like he gives he's still [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2132">TS</a>]
00:35:34 ◼ ► unfolding right success without worries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2134">TS</a>]
00:35:38 ◼ ► propagating in some ways and yet we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2138">TS</a>]
00:35:42 ◼ ► can you blow rein it in a little bit and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2142">TS</a>]
00:35:46 ◼ ► let's make a circle at least with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2146">TS</a>]
00:35:47 ◼ ► brand stuff I felt like brand who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2147">TS</a>]
00:35:49 ◼ ► been on a path where they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2149">TS</a>]
00:35:52 ◼ ► he's been saying oh well together the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2152">TS</a>]
00:35:53 ◼ ► crow the three-eyed crow all that I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2153">TS</a>]
00:35:55 ◼ ► like we actually got somewhere with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2155">TS</a>]
00:35:57 ◼ ► now we're which was good that was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2157">TS</a>]
00:36:00 ◼ ► felt like forward motion to me but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2160">TS</a>]
00:36:02 ◼ ► just it see it's so strange that and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2162">TS</a>]
00:36:05 ◼ ► said you know he's this is we're seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2165">TS</a>]
00:36:07 ◼ ► building as as he goes and he releases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2167">TS</a>]
00:36:09 ◼ ► the installments but that's just a bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2169">TS</a>]
00:36:11 ◼ ► feeling about this that there is no he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2171">TS</a>]
00:36:14 ◼ ► gonna it's not two books worth of story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2174">TS</a>]
00:36:17 ◼ ► that are left user there's a great world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2177">TS</a>]
00:36:19 ◼ ► but the plot has started to take a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2179">TS</a>]
00:36:21 ◼ ► backseat to the world building but some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2181">TS</a>]
00:36:24 ◼ ► of the best characters regular catlin to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2184">TS</a>]
00:36:26 ◼ ► your point to kill catlin it's shocking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2186">TS</a>]
00:36:27 ◼ ► and then he makes the point of saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2187">TS</a>]
00:36:29 ◼ ► haha but she's not dead she's been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2189">TS</a>]
00:36:31 ◼ ► resurrected in some way and then we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2191">TS</a>]
00:36:33 ◼ ► essentially two books go by where she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2193">TS</a>]
00:36:35 ◼ ► in one chapter you know right and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2195">TS</a>]
00:36:39 ◼ ► what was the point just lurking in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2199">TS</a>]
00:36:43 ◼ ► well you'll find out three bucks from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2203">TS</a>]
00:36:46 ◼ ► yeah you've got these kids because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2206">TS</a>]
00:36:48 ◼ ► key characters and Jamie and this jamie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2208">TS</a>]
00:36:49 ◼ ► said but they can't all be important at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2209">TS</a>]
00:36:51 ◼ ► the end right like that yes yes they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2211">TS</a>]
00:36:53 ◼ ► could you never know Jaime and Brienne [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2213">TS</a>]
00:36:54 ◼ ► are are really interesting important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2214">TS</a>]
00:36:56 ◼ ► characters they're basically not in this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2216">TS</a>]
00:36:58 ◼ ► either and then there's something I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2218">TS</a>]
00:37:00 ◼ ► feel some frustration that like you've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2220">TS</a>]
00:37:01 ◼ ► got these really good characters we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2221">TS</a>]
00:37:02 ◼ ► basically not seeing them and instead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2222">TS</a>]
00:37:04 ◼ ► you're introducing me to these new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2224">TS</a>]
00:37:09 ◼ ► characters and the Dornish characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2229">TS</a>]
00:37:10 ◼ ► were conspiring and and they're just not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2230">TS</a>]
00:37:12 ◼ ► that interesting and so that that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2232">TS</a>]
00:37:14 ◼ ► frustration and you know I appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2234">TS</a>]
00:37:16 ◼ ► authors trying to prostrate the readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2236">TS</a>]
00:37:18 ◼ ► a little bit in order to tell a good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2238">TS</a>]
00:37:19 ◼ ► story but when you move you know main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2239">TS</a>]
00:37:21 ◼ ► characters off the board for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2241">TS</a>]
00:37:25 ◼ ► that's kind of tough and I think I feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2245">TS</a>]
00:37:27 ◼ ► like he might feel as though his readers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2247">TS</a>]
00:37:30 ◼ ► will feel ripped off if the book is you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2250">TS</a>]
00:37:32 ◼ ► know 400 pages long which I don't think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2252">TS</a>]
00:37:37 ◼ ► I don't know all these books need to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2257">TS</a>]
00:37:38 ◼ ► thousand-page long he could tell the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2258">TS</a>]
00:37:41 ◼ ► characters progressing along I'd be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2261">TS</a>]
00:37:44 ◼ ► with that if it was 400 good pages as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2264">TS</a>]
00:37:47 ◼ ► opposed to a thousand you know overall [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2267">TS</a>]
00:37:50 ◼ ► mostly mediocre pages with you know some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2270">TS</a>]
00:37:52 ◼ ► good ideas here and some bad pages there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2272">TS</a>]
00:37:54 ◼ ► I think we'd all be like yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2274">TS</a>]
00:37:56 ◼ ► still pretty don't think that's I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2276">TS</a>]
00:37:59 ◼ ► analytically and I i think the I i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2279">TS</a>]
00:38:02 ◼ ► if he gave you four pages it would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2282">TS</a>]
00:38:03 ◼ ► 400 pages of the same stuff so you might [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2283">TS</a>]
00:38:05 ◼ ► as well get a thousand out of it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2285">TS</a>]
00:38:07 ◼ ► that's but that's the pace that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2287">TS</a>]
00:38:09 ◼ ► it's gonna be it's gonna be it's gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2289">TS</a>]
00:38:12 ◼ ► yeah and just set up the way he's riding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2292">TS</a>]
00:38:14 ◼ ► slowly but surely i'm not selling these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2294">TS</a>]
00:38:19 ◼ ► apparently he has stated publicly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2299">TS</a>]
00:38:21 ◼ ► there are no more new POV characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2301">TS</a>]
00:38:24 ◼ ► being introduced after this book and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2304">TS</a>]
00:38:29 ◼ ► freighter comes to be on a helicopter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2309">TS</a>]
00:38:31 ◼ ► drops a few characters are all my god [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2311">TS</a>]
00:38:34 ◼ ► Jason you're just spoiled the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2314">TS</a>]
00:38:35 ◼ ► knows where his it's an island island [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2315">TS</a>]
00:38:38 ◼ ► moves so any Indian thousand pages of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2318">TS</a>]
00:38:42 ◼ ► your time invested in this what what do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2322">TS</a>]
00:38:47 ◼ ► you think what was the what was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2327">TS</a>]
00:38:48 ◼ ► verdict about about dance with dragons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2328">TS</a>]
00:38:51 ◼ ► I'll say I enjoyed it but having now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2331">TS</a>]
00:38:54 ◼ ► talked about it and realized all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2334">TS</a>]
00:38:56 ◼ ► issues I had with it i'm not really in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2336">TS</a>]
00:38:59 ◼ ► any hurry to go back and really like I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2339">TS</a>]
00:39:01 ◼ ► thought about rereading this series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2341">TS</a>]
00:39:03 ◼ ► before because I couldn't remember most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2343">TS</a>]
00:39:05 ◼ ► of what happened and I thought about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2345">TS</a>]
00:39:07 ◼ ► that i thought about a little more and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2347">TS</a>]
00:39:10 ◼ ► no I don't there's not enough time I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2350">TS</a>]
00:39:12 ◼ ► just don't care enough and I think as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2352">TS</a>]
00:39:14 ◼ ► each book goes on i think it's unlikely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2354">TS</a>]
00:39:16 ◼ ► i will ever read these books I just kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2356">TS</a>]
00:39:19 ◼ ► I mean I want to be done and done well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2359">TS</a>]
00:39:20 ◼ ► but i also just kind of wanted to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2360">TS</a>]
00:39:24 ◼ ► yeah I as somebody who you know I'd read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2364">TS</a>]
00:39:26 ◼ ► the first two books way back when and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2366">TS</a>]
00:39:29 ◼ ► then reread the entire series this year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2369">TS</a>]
00:39:32 ◼ ► and it took me something like four or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2372">TS</a>]
00:39:36 ◼ ► including dance with dragons and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2376">TS</a>]
00:39:39 ◼ ► know they're good stories they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2379">TS</a>]
00:39:42 ◼ ► engrossing but when I was you know Glenn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2382">TS</a>]
00:39:45 ◼ ► was asking if he should read them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2385">TS</a>]
00:39:46 ◼ ► because he'd never read them and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2386">TS</a>]
00:39:47 ◼ ► like I have a hard time recommending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2387">TS</a>]
00:39:50 ◼ ► these books to anybody because it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2390">TS</a>]
00:39:52 ◼ ► I mean it's not that they're they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2392">TS</a>]
00:39:54 ◼ ► interesting concepts but I'm like if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2394">TS</a>]
00:39:57 ◼ ► if I had spent five months reading you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2397">TS</a>]
00:40:00 ◼ ► know a lot of other really good fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2400">TS</a>]
00:40:02 ◼ ► what I have been just as happy not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2402">TS</a>]
00:40:04 ◼ ► having this book in my life and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2404">TS</a>]
00:40:06 ◼ ► having this book series in my life and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2406">TS</a>]
00:40:07 ◼ ► think unfortunately I think the answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2407">TS</a>]
00:40:09 ◼ ► is yes I'm like I'm not sure if there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2409">TS</a>]
00:40:11 ◼ ► anything here that I it's got its got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2411">TS</a>]
00:40:14 ◼ ► into that hardest to recommend point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2414">TS</a>]
00:40:15 ◼ ► right like a book if you read a book if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2415">TS</a>]
00:40:17 ◼ ► there's only Booker to you be this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2417">TS</a>]
00:40:19 ◼ ► really promising yeah I should tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2419">TS</a>]
00:40:21 ◼ ► people read this or if it was you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2421">TS</a>]
00:40:23 ◼ ► over and complete and I thought like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2423">TS</a>]
00:40:25 ◼ ► that you would you would have a full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2425">TS</a>]
00:40:26 ◼ ► picture of it but right now you're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2426">TS</a>]
00:40:29 ◼ ► recommending a book to somewhere in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2429">TS</a>]
00:40:31 ◼ ► I don't know how it turns out is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2431">TS</a>]
00:40:33 ◼ ► balance recommending lost at season 4 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2433">TS</a>]
00:40:36 ◼ ► yeah i think the game of films the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2436">TS</a>]
00:40:38 ◼ ► whole series now is in this interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2438">TS</a>]
00:40:40 ◼ ► kind of cultural inflection point right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2440">TS</a>]
00:40:42 ◼ ► because people who would never in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2442">TS</a>]
00:40:45 ◼ ► thousand years read fantasy novel are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2445">TS</a>]
00:40:48 ◼ ► picking up a game of thrones because of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2448">TS</a>]
00:40:49 ◼ ► the HBO series which i think is great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2449">TS</a>]
00:40:51 ◼ ► because it opens them up to a new genre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2451">TS</a>]
00:40:53 ◼ ► but i think on the other hand if I were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2453">TS</a>]
00:40:55 ◼ ► charged george RR martin i would feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2455">TS</a>]
00:41:00 ◼ ► anybody i would feel an incredible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2460">TS</a>]
00:41:04 ◼ ► amount of pressure to to you know live [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2464">TS</a>]
00:41:07 ◼ ► up to these people's expectations and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2467">TS</a>]
00:41:09 ◼ ► think the first book was the best book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2469">TS</a>]
00:41:11 ◼ ► out of the the five so far so kind of I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2471">TS</a>]
00:41:16 ◼ ► don't know it's a tough spot for him to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2476">TS</a>]
00:41:18 ◼ ► be and of course you know he can cry on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2478">TS</a>]
00:41:22 ◼ ► alright and I I think I kind of agree [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2482">TS</a>]
00:41:25 ◼ ► with that this was their parts of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2485">TS</a>]
00:41:27 ◼ ► that I really liked and parts of it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2487">TS</a>]
00:41:28 ◼ ► I felt frustrated by and I ate reminded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2488">TS</a>]
00:41:31 ◼ ► me of what i like about the series and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2491">TS</a>]
00:41:33 ◼ ► it made me think you know again nervous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2493">TS</a>]
00:41:35 ◼ ► thoughts about the building of this of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2495">TS</a>]
00:41:38 ◼ ► of the series and how it's gonna get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2498">TS</a>]
00:41:39 ◼ ► resolved but um but I still like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2499">TS</a>]
00:41:41 ◼ ► series about by the next ball be there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2501">TS</a>]
00:41:43 ◼ ► by the next book 15 minute delay my ear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2503">TS</a>]
00:41:46 ◼ ► and he's acting like this point throwing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2506">TS</a>]
00:41:48 ◼ ► it away i mean i threw away through a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2508">TS</a>]
00:41:50 ◼ ► wheel a time after seven books and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2510">TS</a>]
00:41:53 ◼ ► don't regret that but you know who knows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2513">TS</a>]
00:41:55 ◼ ► that was a smart plan as someone who has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2515">TS</a>]
00:41:58 ◼ ► read all of them who is my friend keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2518">TS</a>]
00:42:00 ◼ ► trying to convince me like all you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2520">TS</a>]
00:42:01 ◼ ► the last ones with the ones have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2521">TS</a>]
00:42:04 ◼ ► actually pretty good i'm like i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2524">TS</a>]
00:42:06 ◼ ► going for more books of craft just ate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2526">TS</a>]
00:42:08 ◼ ► two books that you think are all right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2528">TS</a>]
00:42:10 ◼ ► read some of his original fiction and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2530">TS</a>]
00:42:12 ◼ ► this is why I don't read the harry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2532">TS</a>]
00:42:14 ◼ ► potter and harrypotter harrypotter all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2534">TS</a>]
00:42:17 ◼ ► of those books are energy are enjoyable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2537">TS</a>]
00:42:19 ◼ ► you know they have some crappy parts but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2539">TS</a>]
00:42:22 ◼ ► i would say each individual book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2542">TS</a>]
00:42:24 ◼ ► light-hearted enough and fun enough that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2544">TS</a>]
00:42:26 ◼ ► you don't regret reading them i read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2546">TS</a>]
00:42:28 ◼ ► first one and I regretted alright so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2548">TS</a>]
00:42:32 ◼ ► we're going to press save on this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2552">TS</a>]
00:42:34 ◼ ► edition of the incomparable podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2554">TS</a>]
00:42:36 ◼ ► we're going to bring John syracuse it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2556">TS</a>]
00:42:38 ◼ ► back in and in our next episode we will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2558">TS</a>]
00:42:40 ◼ ► talk about Patrick Rothfuss 'as sequel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2560">TS</a>]
00:42:43 ◼ ► to the name of the wind all the wise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2563">TS</a>]
00:42:45 ◼ ► man's fear but until then I want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2565">TS</a>]
00:42:48 ◼ ► thank everybody for listening i want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2568">TS</a>]
00:42:49 ◼ ► thank my guest John siracusa serenity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2569">TS</a>]
00:42:52 ◼ ► Caldwell damn Lauren and Scott McNulty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbuw__M/2572">TS</a>]