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68: Jedi Weekend

 

00:00:01   [Music] [TS]

00:00:03   the incomparable podcast number 68 know [TS]

00:00:09   going through 2011 [TS]

00:00:13   welcome back to the incomparable podcast [TS]

00:00:15   when we last left you we were discussing [TS]

00:00:17   with deep inside the discussion of the [TS]

00:00:20   empire strikes back and we are going to [TS]

00:00:23   press play on that conversation continue [TS]

00:00:26   where we left off [TS]

00:00:27   joining me for that conversation are the [TS]

00:00:31   fall [TS]

00:00:31   dan morgan hide and ready Jason I I [TS]

00:00:35   didn't think I was gonna make it to the [TS]

00:00:37   resolution of this cliffhanger and I'm [TS]

00:00:39   I'm glad to be here and once again on [TS]

00:00:41   frozen from carpet yes good good [TS]

00:00:43   I thought you were going to make it [TS]

00:00:44   either i see yeah it was it was [TS]

00:00:47   especially for the for a while there [TS]

00:00:48   John siracusa thanks for coming back to [TS]

00:00:51   talk more and partnerships back i'm [TS]

00:00:53   still ready [TS]

00:00:54   excellent you always are ready I I [TS]

00:00:57   appreciate that about you and serenity [TS]

00:00:59   called well thank you for coming back to [TS]

00:01:01   to join us on this on this ridiculously [TS]

00:01:04   long discussion of this movie we're not [TS]

00:01:06   actually going back into this podcast [TS]

00:01:08   are we [TS]

00:01:09   yeah yeah I got a bad feeling about this [TS]

00:01:13   alright let's pick it up where we left [TS]

00:01:15   off [TS]

00:01:16   so so in the asteroid field they go the [TS]

00:01:18   asteroid field and and there's more odds [TS]

00:01:23   that are quoted i just want to mention [TS]

00:01:24   this I i looted this to this earlier [TS]

00:01:26   this is the i think second of three [TS]

00:01:29   times in this movie where odds are [TS]

00:01:31   quoted and you know I remember this from [TS]

00:01:34   from the original Star Trek where mr. [TS]

00:01:37   Spock would always quote the odds and [TS]

00:01:38   the doctor McCoy would be grumpy grumpy [TS]

00:01:40   about the odds and it struck me that [TS]

00:01:41   that they do that same bit in this movie [TS]

00:01:44   and they do it three different times [TS]

00:01:46   where there's odd quoted but it in the [TS]

00:01:49   middle of frantic scenes of other stuff [TS]

00:01:51   that are going on I know it's just it [TS]

00:01:52   struck me that that list maybe too many [TS]

00:01:54   times I think I think it's just it's [TS]

00:01:56   just the right number now so you get the [TS]

00:01:57   first time the first time to you know [TS]

00:01:59   like to Leia and Chewie to establish it [TS]

00:02:01   now it's kind of sad right and then the [TS]

00:02:02   second time is ridiculous right because [TS]

00:02:04   they're in the middle of flying into the [TS]

00:02:05   dam mast reveal and the third time is [TS]

00:02:07   the shut up [TS]

00:02:08   yeah right because the third time we're [TS]

00:02:09   sick of it and it's not a robot would do [TS]

00:02:11   but I'd it's what a robot would do or a [TS]

00:02:13   Vulcan and in this section the movie [TS]

00:02:15   speaking of Star Trek what you have [TS]

00:02:16   yeah where he does a little maneuver and [TS]

00:02:18   then the start of stories start coming [TS]

00:02:19   too close to home and take evasive [TS]

00:02:20   action and all the people in the Star [TS]

00:02:22   Destroyer do the star trek yeah we [TS]

00:02:24   really know what you mean against the [TS]

00:02:26   word of a scrape against each other that [TS]

00:02:28   you got that great great like girl [TS]

00:02:31   yeah yeah it was just a ridiculous scene [TS]

00:02:33   and it's kinda how do they not see each [TS]

00:02:34   other coming right you're a giant [TS]

00:02:36   frickin Star Destroyer no slow-moving [TS]

00:02:38   and giant things but the reason I have [TS]

00:02:39   to go into the starfield remember is [TS]

00:02:41   that because their first their initial [TS]

00:02:42   plans let's get the heck out of your [TS]

00:02:43   jump to Lightspeed again telling [TS]

00:02:44   everybody remember what the Millennium [TS]

00:02:45   Falcon didn't star wars wasn't that cool [TS]

00:02:47   i think we're gonna do it again and it's [TS]

00:02:49   going to get them out of there and no [TS]

00:02:50   you hit me with her okay we're [TS]

00:02:52   withholding we have you I know you love [TS]

00:02:54   that effect from the first moment for dr [TS]

00:02:55   motivator is damaged [TS]

00:02:56   it's impossible to go to light speed [TS]

00:02:58   yeah right and you get that said sound [TS]

00:03:00   and it's withholding from the audience [TS]

00:03:01   because the audience once they're going [TS]

00:03:03   to light speed and we expected but like [TS]

00:03:04   okay this is enough of a daring escape [TS]

00:03:06   you know you're on the edge of your seat [TS]

00:03:08   right and your light speed will get out [TS]

00:03:10   we'll be safe nope not today [TS]

00:03:11   and-and-and to speak to you know this [TS]

00:03:13   entire scene is possibly another one of [TS]

00:03:16   my favorite just sort of this is my [TS]

00:03:17   favorite set-piece i think in the movie [TS]

00:03:19   is the asteroid that the Millennium [TS]

00:03:20   Falcon pursuit right great music to [TS]

00:03:22   great music perfectly choreographed the [TS]

00:03:25   the effects are awesome [TS]

00:03:28   even to this day these effects look more [TS]

00:03:29   or less flawless to me like the way the [TS]

00:03:31   falken like you know flips over and like [TS]

00:03:33   just the the maneuvering and piloting of [TS]

00:03:35   that ship or just it looks so cool to me [TS]

00:03:38   when we finally have a reason for the [TS]

00:03:40   falken shape and design i mean in the [TS]

00:03:42   first movie okay the falken is shaped [TS]

00:03:44   like a giant pizza and it's awesome but [TS]

00:03:46   here we actually get to see oh hey it [TS]

00:03:48   can go sideways it can go through [TS]

00:03:49   asteroids it can outmaneuver tiny little [TS]

00:03:51   Thai fighters and I wanted that of [TS]

00:03:53   course is Han right like yeah he he is a [TS]

00:03:55   great pilot and so you know i'll choose [TS]

00:03:57   flying ship they're both flying working [TS]

00:03:59   out to go to fight and I you know I in [TS]

00:04:02   the disagree i love that whole scene you [TS]

00:04:04   know there's the scene where he's trying [TS]

00:04:05   to fix it right you know these mumbling [TS]

00:04:07   all the all the you know that the babble [TS]

00:04:10   right [TS]

00:04:11   alluvial dampers and he's like crawling [TS]

00:04:13   around i love those shots the slapstick [TS]

00:04:15   of the tools falling on it yeah it walks [TS]

00:04:18   and put that and then the you know I [TS]

00:04:20   don't know how we're gonna get out of [TS]

00:04:21   this one you know gets hit by the [TS]

00:04:22   toolbox and then that wait that wasn't [TS]

00:04:24   the shooter something hit us and then we [TS]

00:04:26   get like oh crap it's again the constant [TS]

00:04:30   so this is it's constantly getting worse [TS]

00:04:32   right [TS]

00:04:33   this is this is act to again we're back [TS]

00:04:35   to that same idea oh well it's pretty [TS]

00:04:37   bad because the you know you guys are [TS]

00:04:39   charged Oh even worse the hyperdrives [TS]

00:04:40   broken you know you're an asteroid field [TS]

00:04:44   like Wright work it's one thing on top [TS]

00:04:45   of another we're just gonna make it [TS]

00:04:46   harder and harder and so you're kind of [TS]

00:04:49   like you're on the edge of your seat [TS]

00:04:50   you're you're following along time for [TS]

00:04:51   like how the hell are they going to get [TS]

00:04:53   out of this and you know in a in a movie [TS]

00:04:55   where they were where this is the [TS]

00:04:56   beginning of motion control and they're [TS]

00:04:58   just kind of getting a handle on how we [TS]

00:04:59   can make these model ships move around [TS]

00:05:01   look interesting at some point in this [TS]

00:05:02   asteroid thing according to the script [TS]

00:05:04   they have to fly into what they think is [TS]

00:05:05   a cave the Millennium Falcon doesn't fly [TS]

00:05:07   into a cave the instead they take this [TS]

00:05:09   money and Falcon model and it probably [TS]

00:05:11   great time and expense make it through [TS]

00:05:12   this graceful loop economy boomed music [TS]

00:05:14   that also rises and falls in the end the [TS]

00:05:17   scale as the beautiful what why would [TS]

00:05:19   you do that that's it that's like an [TS]

00:05:20   apple moment it's like you just supposed [TS]

00:05:22   to have the ship flying to okay that's [TS]

00:05:23   easy enough to get the cave get the ship [TS]

00:05:25   get the camera setup move the thing [TS]

00:05:26   through their ship flies into the cave [TS]

00:05:28   and done you know it's gonna do a loop [TS]

00:05:29   accompanied by music [TS]

00:05:30   why because we care about how this movie [TS]

00:05:32   looks at every single second [TS]

00:05:33   well and not just that but that's the [TS]

00:05:35   you know it's hard right like showing [TS]

00:05:36   off a little like he's doing his thing [TS]

00:05:38   like this is how we fought and i have to [TS]

00:05:40   say like what I'm saying about the [TS]

00:05:41   special effects before I I'm [TS]

00:05:43   hard-pressed to think of a movie with [TS]

00:05:45   CGI effects that I think looks this cool [TS]

00:05:46   i don't know it just something about the [TS]

00:05:48   model working in the knowledge in the [TS]

00:05:50   the look of the thing that it looks real [TS]

00:05:52   it's real to me in a way that CGI has [TS]

00:05:55   never done over the rocks could look [TS]

00:05:57   better in CGI but the ship could not yet [TS]

00:06:00   the ship looks awesome I mean clearly [TS]

00:06:01   that's painstaking detail right like [TS]

00:06:03   that's a thing you know it's a thing [TS]

00:06:05   that people have spent all their time [TS]

00:06:06   crafting all these little details and [TS]

00:06:07   gluing things on and carving things and [TS]

00:06:09   everything in it and painting and it [TS]

00:06:11   looks it looks like a real live thing [TS]

00:06:14   and you know you see the other type [TS]

00:06:16   fighters following trying to follow them [TS]

00:06:17   and getting smushed and blowing up and [TS]

00:06:19   everything and it's just it's perfect i [TS]

00:06:22   love it i'm not perfect in its [TS]

00:06:23   imperfections [TS]

00:06:25   oh this is so it's like that looks [TS]

00:06:29   pretty good [TS]

00:06:29   let's play it nicely [TS]

00:06:34   excuse me little party going [TS]

00:06:46   you know what you doing hmm so I there's [TS]

00:06:52   a muppet not so as he's as he's coming [TS]

00:06:57   into databases will start the landing [TS]

00:06:59   cycle and all I could think about even [TS]

00:07:00   point of the kids like a washing machine [TS]

00:07:01   has the landing cycle the drawing that [TS]

00:07:03   right that's like a permanent press he [TS]

00:07:05   crushes for the second time [TS]

00:07:07   yes he's not he's not doing well as a [TS]

00:07:08   pilot and not very good and I let you [TS]

00:07:10   know he comes down and sunken ship in [TS]

00:07:13   and then are two of course falls in and [TS]

00:07:14   I can't help you know I kept thinking [TS]

00:07:16   this time like man it's a good thing [TS]

00:07:17   they really know what a waterproof those [TS]

00:07:19   guys because if he dropped his frickin [TS]

00:07:20   iphone and that's what I think yeah I [TS]

00:07:22   wanted a void warranty on the second day [TS]

00:07:24   gobo swamp water forget it arches a [TS]

00:07:26   hearty little right we can literally use [TS]

00:07:28   this might be a little bot you think oh [TS]

00:07:30   my god you put out you put a electric [TS]

00:07:32   thing in water oh no this is the end and [TS]

00:07:35   say isn't interesting that they can get [TS]

00:07:36   away with like so we had slapstick in [TS]

00:07:38   the action scene with the toolbox and [TS]

00:07:39   stuff like that and you have a little [TS]

00:07:40   bit of it here but so he falls in and [TS]

00:07:42   the whole thing is played for slapstick [TS]

00:07:43   a little bit of drama with the thing [TS]

00:07:44   eating it but it spits them out like if [TS]

00:07:47   this is a slapstick comedy relaxation [TS]

00:07:51   moment in the middle of it and otherwise [TS]

00:07:52   action-adventure film and it works you [TS]

00:07:55   don't question it you don't be like this [TS]

00:07:56   is a strange mood and understand it all [TS]

00:07:58   like somehow they make these transitions [TS]

00:08:01   so well and it also comes across as not [TS]

00:08:03   crass like so many the attempts at [TS]

00:08:06   slapstick humor in the prequels do right [TS]

00:08:08   yeah you know some so many those are [TS]

00:08:10   like you know you get like the bantha [TS]

00:08:11   poodoo jokes or whatever grace is [TS]

00:08:13   bringing the plot forward to like he's [TS]

00:08:15   he's on a planet he's crashed [TS]

00:08:17   he's concerned about our to he's not [TS]

00:08:18   familiar with this environment you know [TS]

00:08:20   if putting them in more parallel [TS]

00:08:21   destroyed half broken and filled with [TS]

00:08:23   mud [TS]

00:08:24   I like the parallel between ar2 why Luke [TS]

00:08:27   saying to our to the verbiage like yes I [TS]

00:08:28   think it's perfectly safe for droids and [TS]

00:08:30   not five minutes later gets eaten by a [TS]

00:08:33   big sea monster that was one of my [TS]

00:08:35   favorite cuts to when he's on he's [TS]

00:08:37   looking around he's like you know he's [TS]

00:08:39   dubious about the just crash if he's got [TS]

00:08:41   a straight-out is awful of everything he [TS]

00:08:43   bends down is like damn and then the end [TS]

00:08:45   of the scene is is r2 expelling a huge [TS]

00:08:47   amount of mud from its flattered and [TS]

00:08:49   Luke just rolls eyes and they do another [TS]

00:08:51   circle wipe it's just it's like yeah [TS]

00:08:54   that's pretty much where Luke is at this [TS]

00:08:56   point is dried his spitting up mud [TS]

00:08:58   he's white and mud off eventdata good [TS]

00:09:01   plan [TS]

00:09:02   yeah well arches all rendezvous point [TS]

00:09:05   what did I tell you [TS]

00:09:06   yeah after a quick cut away to Darth [TS]

00:09:10   Vader strange office he's got a mug [TS]

00:09:12   world's greatest Dark Lord's world's [TS]

00:09:14   best afford yes yoda makes his first [TS]

00:09:16   appearance and I find this is also funny [TS]

00:09:18   because this is our you know Mitt [TS]

00:09:22   it'sit's that they meet under under a [TS]

00:09:25   misconception and like for being one [TS]

00:09:29   that's a a and and he takes his food and [TS]

00:09:33   there's actually a moment that i noticed [TS]

00:09:34   watching at this time that i thought was [TS]

00:09:35   hilarious is that is that he tries to it [TS]

00:09:38   takes food from Luke and Luke takes it [TS]

00:09:40   back and then he like looks at it and [TS]

00:09:43   looks at it and throw yeah it doesn't [TS]

00:09:44   yes creature touch this [TS]

00:09:46   you're clearly not seeing this movie [TS]

00:09:47   enough of you just noticed that hostel [TS]

00:09:49   is a great scene i love that Luke [TS]

00:09:51   Skywalker saying I think I wouldn't [TS]

00:09:52   notice it and forgot it noticed again [TS]

00:09:54   that just that you know and I I imagine [TS]

00:09:57   he's like oh it's got Muppet stuff on [TS]

00:10:00   that new toss toss it away [TS]

00:10:02   hey oh yeah not getting the ship out [TS]

00:10:05   this the sheer joy in Yoda in this scene [TS]

00:10:08   right like the yoda knows that this is [TS]

00:10:10   all right you know it's a task but he [TS]

00:10:12   also knows that he's been watching Luke [TS]

00:10:14   Wright he knows what he thinks he's [TS]

00:10:16   trying to play to his weeks you know to [TS]

00:10:18   to his flaws and vulnerabilities right [TS]

00:10:20   in saying like you'll never assume that [TS]

00:10:22   I am this you know great warrior [TS]

00:10:24   whatever and so we'll see how he treats [TS]

00:10:26   me if that's what he thinks and I just [TS]

00:10:28   but i love that the glee that Yoda seems [TS]

00:10:30   to take it i love the scene with him in [TS]

00:10:31   the lamp right right and say that the [TS]

00:10:34   thing about Yoda in an empire that at [TS]

00:10:38   that the prequels their mere existence [TS]

00:10:39   like I still reject their interpretation [TS]

00:10:42   of yoda is that I grassi's this great [TS]

00:10:44   Jedi warrior and yes this is a testament [TS]

00:10:46   to put on and stuff like that but I also [TS]

00:10:48   get the very distinct impression from [TS]

00:10:49   this movie which no other movies will [TS]

00:10:52   shake me have is that Yoda is kind of a [TS]

00:10:54   goof like yeah he does have that playful [TS]

00:10:57   nature and yet he when he's fighting [TS]

00:10:59   with r2 over the lamp he thinks he's got [TS]

00:11:01   the lamp in Detroit and yes you could [TS]

00:11:02   crush him into a ball 10 with the force [TS]

00:11:04   but in general is that he's like a [TS]

00:11:07   good-natured goofy fun kind of guy not [TS]

00:11:09   the horrible dour serious piece of crap [TS]

00:11:12   cgi thing from the other three movies [TS]

00:11:13   this is the yoga that I think of what [TS]

00:11:15   you gotta love that little scene right [TS]

00:11:17   where he gets the land looks like let [TS]

00:11:18   him have it yeah you know are two poles [TS]

00:11:20   is the arm back in any wax and one [TS]

00:11:22   Marlins waxing with the cane and close [TS]

00:11:24   the door on on the arm i love and you [TS]

00:11:26   know speaking to the cgi abomination [TS]

00:11:28   I I you will again with the same thing [TS]

00:11:31   with the falken and you will not [TS]

00:11:32   convince me that any of those cgi [TS]

00:11:34   versions of him look more real than the [TS]

00:11:38   muppet version there's something so [TS]

00:11:39   expressive and I was watching it very [TS]

00:11:41   closely this time and you know i think [TS]

00:11:43   in on all the watching I've ever had [TS]

00:11:46   this I always just treat him as a person [TS]

00:11:48   like he just he just comes across as a [TS]

00:11:50   real living flesh and blood creature and [TS]

00:11:54   and you could not dissuade me for that [TS]

00:11:55   even if i'm looking at any yeah he moves [TS]

00:11:57   kinda weird at times whatever but like [TS]

00:11:58   you look at the face and the subtle [TS]

00:12:01   expressions that they do that a couple [TS]

00:12:03   points where like yeah you know you'll [TS]

00:12:05   see his like chin tighten and the other [TS]

00:12:07   way his eyes move or even his ears [TS]

00:12:10   um it's it's incredible and I think you [TS]

00:12:13   know having a person behind that too to [TS]

00:12:16   translate that emotion and the same way [TS]

00:12:18   that having someone addresses Chewbacca [TS]

00:12:21   or people inside the droids you know all [TS]

00:12:24   of those things led to humanity to these [TS]

00:12:27   characters that otherwise comes across [TS]

00:12:28   as incredibly sterile and and you know [TS]

00:12:32   you cannot convince me that that any CGI [TS]

00:12:36   is better than Frank Oz working that [TS]

00:12:37   Muppet also don't forget the the the [TS]

00:12:41   making a motion picture the the craft of [TS]

00:12:44   being able to take a puppet but also cut [TS]

00:12:46   in various ways there are several shots [TS]

00:12:48   in this movie where you see you see you [TS]

00:12:51   two sitting he's walking he's he's so [TS]

00:12:53   it's not as if it's not like Sesame [TS]

00:12:55   Street where they're just only shot from [TS]

00:12:57   the waist up he's not hiding behind a [TS]

00:12:59   table exactly right so that it's [TS]

00:13:01   intercut enough that it does really [TS]

00:13:03   bring out the illusion i'm reminded of a [TS]

00:13:06   moment where you see Kermit the Frog [TS]

00:13:07   riding the bike and the muppet movie [TS]

00:13:08   they're like oh my god curve it's got [TS]

00:13:10   legs because really we never see them [TS]

00:13:13   he's always just a puppet right so Yoda [TS]

00:13:15   is the same way you see him you see him [TS]

00:13:17   as a as a whole creature even though [TS]

00:13:19   some of that is just miss direction from [TS]

00:13:21   from editing but it it it makes a huge [TS]

00:13:24   difference in [TS]

00:13:25   same way the special effects from the [TS]

00:13:26   original movie and I think we touched [TS]

00:13:28   upon this the limitations make it better [TS]

00:13:31   right [TS]

00:13:32   it's hard right they had to think about [TS]

00:13:34   ways to get around that whereas with CGI [TS]

00:13:36   you know whatever it's easy we just make [TS]

00:13:38   him walk right at cgi done you know [TS]

00:13:40   where is this where they had to think [TS]

00:13:42   really hard about well how are we gonna [TS]

00:13:44   make this look real when we are [TS]

00:13:45   constrained by certain limitations we [TS]

00:13:47   gotta have a guy working this thing [TS]

00:13:48   right [TS]

00:13:49   like how do we do that and i think that [TS]

00:13:51   you know in the art of pulling that off [TS]

00:13:55   is what takes this from just being a [TS]

00:13:58   really dull sterile you know [TS]

00:14:01   straightforward and you know story and [TS]

00:14:04   elevates it to being something that is [TS]

00:14:06   so effective [TS]

00:14:07   I think this to other things that are [TS]

00:14:09   working in the favor of making this work [TS]

00:14:11   the first one is cultural in that [TS]

00:14:13   everyone who saw this movie at the at [TS]

00:14:15   the age that we are when it came out was [TS]

00:14:17   brought up on a diet of muppets [TS]

00:14:19   essentially from Sesame Street and so I [TS]

00:14:21   love eating Muppets we were completely [TS]

00:14:23   on board with the mannerisms conventions [TS]

00:14:26   of the world of muppets that we were [TS]

00:14:28   they didn't seem alien to us they seem [TS]

00:14:30   like this is the way a little creatures [TS]

00:14:31   act on TV and all the idiosyncrasies [TS]

00:14:33   that are due to limitations and puppetry [TS]

00:14:34   didn't bother us at all we were [TS]

00:14:36   completely on board with them and the [TS]

00:14:37   second one is that like like a good [TS]

00:14:38   magic trick that the magic trick is you [TS]

00:14:41   know it's misdirection they're gonna [TS]

00:14:42   point you over here to get your just not [TS]

00:14:44   look at the limitation the thing that's [TS]

00:14:47   misdirecting you most of the time with [TS]

00:14:48   Yoda is the amazing performance of Frank [TS]

00:14:50   Oz like so if you Frank Oz knows he's [TS]

00:14:52   got I'm gonna remote with his eyes and [TS]

00:14:54   his chin in the scene and you're gonna [TS]

00:14:56   listen to my voice and everything else [TS]

00:14:58   that happens where you to look at it you [TS]

00:14:59   would say that looks horrible and fake [TS]

00:15:01   and it's obviously a puppet it's dumb [TS]

00:15:02   but like a great magic trick you don't [TS]

00:15:04   even look at those things because the [TS]

00:15:05   voice and the two things he chose to [TS]

00:15:07   make you look at cell it will look at [TS]

00:15:10   that scene the scene where Luke realizes [TS]

00:15:13   you're gonna write his whole Yoda's [TS]

00:15:16   whole bearing changes you can get up [TS]

00:15:19   right [TS]

00:15:19   Aria his stance sort of straightens up [TS]

00:15:21   his face sort of titans up a little bit [TS]

00:15:24   in a way that is just like a yeah and [TS]

00:15:26   what if i am you know like what are you [TS]

00:15:29   gonna do about it and at that point he's [TS]

00:15:31   pissed office is like I can't train this [TS]

00:15:32   kid like you know it disapproval [TS]

00:15:35   disapproval is also have space there [TS]

00:15:37   yeah and that whole you know I [TS]

00:15:38   again with the language works we're [TS]

00:15:40   taking him we treat them kind of silly [TS]

00:15:42   because he speaks backwards right [TS]

00:15:43   backwards he speaks and and but i love [TS]

00:15:46   the dslam on that one line you are [TS]

00:15:51   reckless right no problem saying that he [TS]

00:15:54   just pointed out any hits home with it's [TS]

00:15:57   a great performance and it is a really [TS]

00:15:59   fully realized performance and that's [TS]

00:16:00   why I think it's resonated with people [TS]

00:16:02   for so long I am struck though imagine [TS]

00:16:07   so [TS]

00:16:08   so you made the biggest grossing movie [TS]

00:16:10   of all time [TS]

00:16:11   right so you've got some latitude but at [TS]

00:16:15   the same time you really don't want to [TS]

00:16:17   mess this up [TS]

00:16:19   this is your everybody's waiting to see [TS]

00:16:21   your second movie that you're going to [TS]

00:16:22   make and the decision to have a major [TS]

00:16:28   character in the movie be a puppet [TS]

00:16:31   I mean seriously think about that think [TS]

00:16:34   they could have caught they could have [TS]

00:16:35   cast a guy in makeup a little guy to be [TS]

00:16:39   a wizened old wizard kind of creature [TS]

00:16:43   and they didn't they got you know they [TS]

00:16:45   got the jim henson people and they got [TS]

00:16:48   Frank Oz to puppet and perform at night [TS]

00:16:50   and I just I it is I think now we all [TS]

00:16:53   just kind of accept Yoda as this puppet [TS]

00:16:55   character but how brave a decision that [TS]

00:16:59   was in some ways because it could have [TS]

00:17:01   been a disaster right a laughingstock [TS]

00:17:04   and it turned out to be a great decision [TS]

00:17:07   but uh pretty brave because they could [TS]

00:17:09   they could play it safe at the end of [TS]

00:17:12   the end of my laser disc copy that i [TS]

00:17:14   watch this there's like a like seven [TS]

00:17:16   minute interview with George Lucas which [TS]

00:17:18   is Leonard Maltin sitting down with him [TS]

00:17:20   and there were a couple interesting [TS]

00:17:21   points i was interested to know that he [TS]

00:17:24   yum [TS]

00:17:24   he tried to get Henson to do it for the [TS]

00:17:26   first part like you know Henson was [TS]

00:17:28   supposed to play Yoda and he was just [TS]

00:17:30   like me you know what I'm too busy but [TS]

00:17:31   like what about Frank and he was you [TS]

00:17:33   know because like that totally okay you [TS]

00:17:36   know in you know Henson refers Frankie's [TS]

00:17:38   my other half right you know like this [TS]

00:17:40   is always thinking of Kermit but we can [TS]

00:17:42   go with Grover right well I mean you [TS]

00:17:43   know that that you know Frank Oz is a [TS]

00:17:45   genius in his own right so there's no [TS]

00:17:46   there's no question there but it he does [TS]

00:17:48   talk a little bit about this I you know [TS]

00:17:50   process of deciding to make it [TS]

00:17:52   a muppet and I think you know it's it's [TS]

00:17:56   effective because in the same way that [TS]

00:17:57   Yoda presents himself as somewhat less [TS]

00:17:59   than he is upon us appearance [TS]

00:18:01   we're all willing to you know sort of go [TS]

00:18:04   along with that because again as John [TS]

00:18:06   was saying like you're sort of [TS]

00:18:07   inoculated into knowing how much it's a [TS]

00:18:09   crate Oh silly mother that's right like [TS]

00:18:10   funny kind of comic relief up and walk [TS]

00:18:12   away yeah and so youryour you buy into [TS]

00:18:15   that too right you buy into the idea [TS]

00:18:16   like out this is just some crazy alien [TS]

00:18:18   who lives on this planet wants to eat my [TS]

00:18:20   food it we're putting Luke shadows right [TS]

00:18:22   and you know I think that we get that [TS]

00:18:23   reveal too and that's kind of a damning [TS]

00:18:25   reveal what it's like and that's the [TS]

00:18:27   whole that's the whole message of you to [TS]

00:18:29   write do you judge people by appearances [TS]

00:18:31   and and think of like the end that [TS]

00:18:33   sino-soviet we start out for like the [TS]

00:18:34   guy you know I was stealing food and [TS]

00:18:36   being goofy and the end of that thing [TS]

00:18:37   before they wiped away back to the harm [TS]

00:18:39   story for good for a while is the you [TS]

00:18:41   know I could do a master i'm not afraid [TS]

00:18:43   you just that you will me like you went [TS]

00:18:44   from this goofy thing to a genuinely [TS]

00:18:47   scary to a little kid who is watching [TS]

00:18:49   this video you will be like Jesus that's [TS]

00:18:52   kind of citizens that were the range of [TS]

00:18:55   my character from his introduction to 10 [TS]

00:18:57   minutes later how our view of this [TS]

00:18:58   character is like the funny goofy guide [TS]

00:19:00   to the one that is scaring ten-year-old [TS]

00:19:02   children [TS]

00:19:02   alright so now we've got at this point [TS]

00:19:04   the movie we've got lots of things that [TS]

00:19:06   happened in caves or things that we [TS]

00:19:08   think her caves the back of the [TS]

00:19:10   millennium falcon uh I think the turning [TS]

00:19:12   point for the han and Leia relationships [TS]

00:19:15   in some ways is a for me is the moment [TS]

00:19:19   where she says you make it so hard [TS]

00:19:22   sometimes and he says I do i don't [TS]

00:19:24   really i really do it's ok really hard [TS]

00:19:28   he's finally owning up to the thing that [TS]

00:19:30   they've been doing for the first part [TS]

00:19:31   for the first part of the mo is [TS]

00:19:33   acknowledging and say yes you're right [TS]

00:19:34   that thing you think I've been doing I [TS]

00:19:36   admit that i've been doing it level when [TS]

00:19:37   he throws up that the name thing to [TS]

00:19:38   write like what you stop calling me that [TS]

00:19:40   shirt and all right we gotta get your [TS]

00:19:43   creating about that her first name [TS]

00:19:44   sounds worse it's like he wanted to call [TS]

00:19:46   her that it's just that when [TS]

00:19:49   hey your worship I'm only trying to help [TS]

00:19:54   you please stop calling me that [TS]

00:19:57   sure where it's so difficult sometimes [TS]

00:20:01   you really do you could be a little [TS]

00:20:04   nicer though [TS]

00:20:05   come on admit sometimes you think I'm [TS]

00:20:08   all right [TS]

00:20:09   occasionally maybe when you aren't [TS]

00:20:14   acting like a scandal scandal sound like [TS]

00:20:22   the sound of that stop that stop work [TS]

00:20:27   stop that my hands are dirty dirty to do [TS]

00:20:31   you find up grade your trembling [TS]

00:20:35   too much him [TS]

00:20:38   doesn't scandal in your life have a nice [TS]

00:20:44   man nice men [TS]

00:20:50   i isolated the reverse power flux [TS]

00:20:54   coupling thank you [TS]

00:20:59   very much you're perfectly welcome set [TS]

00:21:03   no and then c-3po gets in the way and [TS]

00:21:06   spoils the entire thing I just love that [TS]

00:21:09   I do i do I really do that that's that [TS]

00:21:11   moment where it's like it's a great [TS]

00:21:13   scene there and at the other one is that [TS]

00:21:16   when she's scared she comes running to [TS]

00:21:17   Hondo something out there at that moment [TS]

00:21:19   she's at first time showing [TS]

00:21:21   vulnerability to hunt because the whole [TS]

00:21:22   time she's been like I'm top I don't [TS]

00:21:24   need you blood now she's lucky I Knox is [TS]

00:21:26   why my wonderful what the lovely thing [TS]

00:21:28   about that and this is one of the places [TS]

00:21:30   where I think this you know the film [TS]

00:21:31   clearly Trump's one of the radio drama [TS]

00:21:33   scenes is that he doesn't question it [TS]

00:21:35   right he just goes like where you know [TS]

00:21:37   what happened he's generally concerned [TS]

00:21:39   hehe he could you know what we've seen [TS]

00:21:42   upon right like he could easily take [TS]

00:21:43   that opportunity to make fun of her but [TS]

00:21:46   he doesn't see that she's actually [TS]

00:21:48   concerned she's relating to him on a [TS]

00:21:50   real level he will return you know and [TS]

00:21:52   kind it's the foundation for a healthy [TS]

00:21:53   relationship [TS]

00:21:54   this is the moment where at all i think [TS]

00:21:57   those two characters just kind of [TS]

00:21:58   putting together those two crazy kiddos [TS]

00:22:01   that I know and in that cave that is not [TS]

00:22:04   a cave the cave that's not how did you [TS]

00:22:06   meet how did you meet your mom well we [TS]

00:22:07   were in a space login button that little [TS]

00:22:10   scene the head where there were there [TS]

00:22:12   you know my hands are dirty too what are [TS]

00:22:13   you afraid of i'm not afraid of all but [TS]

00:22:15   like that's that's good [TS]

00:22:16   snappy dialogue and delivered in a way [TS]

00:22:18   that they get closer to each other and [TS]

00:22:19   quieter until like the down to the last [TS]

00:22:21   line which is also funny [TS]

00:22:23   in addition to being corner that happen [TS]

00:22:25   to like nice men he goes on a nice man [TS]

00:22:27   i'm a smell don't know you're not [TS]

00:22:29   compromised no you're not you're smoking [TS]

00:22:31   for granted comedies have not had that [TS]

00:22:33   type of see anything is you got a [TS]

00:22:34   decision you got to disengage them [TS]

00:22:36   because you get again i always think [TS]

00:22:37   'what a modern we did have some sort of [TS]

00:22:39   love scene and the special love lounge [TS]

00:22:41   on the way no serious interrupted [TS]

00:22:43   because we got an action movie to back [TS]

00:22:44   out you get the button in the bed turns [TS]

00:22:46   or above the shakes the ship yeah we're [TS]

00:22:48   being pursued by the Empire when a space [TS]

00:22:50   like we need to get out of here [TS]

00:22:51   hey if the falkens our Rocket threatened [TS]

00:22:54   no time for love dr jones it's probably [TS]

00:22:57   being hit by asteroids if the Falcon is [TS]

00:22:59   a-rockin to pocket if I hang if I hang [TS]

00:23:02   this tie over the door to my quarters [TS]

00:23:04   just stay in the front of the ship okay [TS]

00:23:07   oh I think that and I've always said [TS]

00:23:11   that they removed the inn in Star Wars [TS]

00:23:13   there are dice hanging from the cockpit [TS]

00:23:15   you can see in a couple [TS]

00:23:17   scenes he hits his head on like these [TS]

00:23:19   little dangly dice not like fuzzy dice [TS]

00:23:20   but there-there there-there gone and in [TS]

00:23:23   an empire always makes me a little said [TS]

00:23:25   so [TS]

00:23:26   so anything else to say about the cave [TS]

00:23:27   and the fact that I mean it's just a [TS]

00:23:28   clever little turnaround when they [TS]

00:23:30   discovered that they're inside a [TS]

00:23:31   creature minox chewing on the power [TS]

00:23:33   cable [TS]

00:23:34   it's great it's one of those fun scenes [TS]

00:23:36   although i would say that Hans decision [TS]

00:23:38   if you think you're inside a creature [TS]

00:23:39   maybe don't take that point to say well [TS]

00:23:42   there's one way to find out for sure [TS]

00:23:42   when I shoot it up and maybe find a less [TS]

00:23:45   so big maybe it's just leaving about [TS]

00:23:47   that pan find a less severe experiment [TS]

00:23:49   perhaps because of that if your [TS]

00:23:51   suspicion turns out to be correct and [TS]

00:23:52   now that it's probably angry John hon [TS]

00:23:55   shoots first asks questions never come [TS]

00:23:58   on this is let's keep they also do the [TS]

00:24:00   Star Trek thing again with the let's [TS]

00:24:01   tilt the camera and everybody Lena they [TS]

00:24:03   pull it off [TS]

00:24:03   yeah and they don't want to go out right [TS]

00:24:05   because they know that the Empire's [TS]

00:24:06   waiting for them out there and so they [TS]

00:24:07   don't want to go I said we can't go out [TS]

00:24:09   there is no time to discuss in the [TS]

00:24:10   company that's the committee committee [TS]

00:24:12   and that's the after the kissing scene [TS]

00:24:15   so it shows that even though they have [TS]

00:24:17   it I get it basically that's haunting [TS]

00:24:19   let's not let this be weird okay yeah [TS]

00:24:20   that's you know we can go back to the [TS]

00:24:22   way the way that we banter never we can [TS]

00:24:24   still banter he doesn't act like what [TS]

00:24:27   he's saying is beneath her she's [TS]

00:24:29   actually a little into actually [TS]

00:24:30   indignant now that's right don't know [TS]

00:24:33   i'm not that committee yeah we go back [TS]

00:24:35   to the swamp [TS]

00:24:36   yeah Miami yo don't let us know here is [TS]

00:24:39   taking bus kind of boring and i do not [TS]

00:24:42   get that at all because Diego's the hard [TS]

00:24:44   house movie for me I've heard people say [TS]

00:24:46   a couple things about a one is that it's [TS]

00:24:48   a middle section it drags and the other [TS]

00:24:49   one is that everything Yoda says [TS]

00:24:50   platitudes I disagree with both of I [TS]

00:24:52   disagree with the I don't think [TS]

00:24:54   everything you notices platitudes I i do [TS]

00:24:56   think that I do think the negative stuff [TS]

00:24:59   the training stuff goes on a little too [TS]

00:25:01   long [TS]

00:25:02   it's it's not it's not drawn out like [TS]

00:25:05   that but everything works to a purpose [TS]

00:25:06   here's the thing i like about the [TS]

00:25:08   training scenes right so the the [TS]

00:25:09   conventional training like usually [TS]

00:25:11   washroom so wheres the mario is by the [TS]

00:25:13   way where is we have some sort of all [TS]

00:25:16   the all the master was trying to teach [TS]

00:25:18   you something a lot of them have [TS]

00:25:20   montages sometimes that the music but [TS]

00:25:21   even going around again path it's okay [TS]

00:25:23   buddy master shows the students [TS]

00:25:26   something the student finds it difficult [TS]

00:25:28   to master is frustrated the master keeps [TS]

00:25:30   doing it in [TS]

00:25:30   eventual moment of breaking through and [TS]

00:25:32   student finds yeah i can get this i can [TS]

00:25:34   learn it in the master is happy that [TS]

00:25:36   never happens to look everything Leo [TS]

00:25:38   tries teaching he screws it up then and [TS]

00:25:40   innovate at the ending point of this [TS]

00:25:42   particular seems like you know he's [TS]

00:25:44   making things fall down it's not [TS]

00:25:45   concentrating every time there's a new [TS]

00:25:46   power is asking dumb questions no no [TS]

00:25:49   moral teacher today clear your minds of [TS]

00:25:50   questions like you're just screwing up [TS]

00:25:52   and he never has a breakthrough with it [TS]

00:25:53   where the mass they cut the master and [TS]

00:25:55   the master smiles like yeah you're [TS]

00:25:56   finally getting it never know yet won [TS]

00:25:58   the end of course we have the cave to [TS]

00:26:00   right here is up there too which is not [TS]

00:26:02   only screws up but like that [TS]

00:26:04   the cave is a great song like the [TS]

00:26:06   beginning I like the beginning of the [TS]

00:26:08   cave the cave of psychology [TS]

00:26:10   well no but I mean like I like the cave [TS]

00:26:12   with the you know your weapons you don't [TS]

00:26:13   need them [TS]

00:26:14   he gives them a hint he tells them how [TS]

00:26:16   do how dense you have to be and and Luke [TS]

00:26:18   gives them that look right here Lucas [TS]

00:26:20   he's like yeah whatever i'm taking my [TS]

00:26:22   gun [TS]

00:26:23   you know what happens to the cave it [TS]

00:26:25   what happens in the cave is that there [TS]

00:26:27   are low frames per second [TS]

00:26:29   i I've noticed that too but that works [TS]

00:26:31   for me yeah i remember being a kid in [TS]

00:26:33   like I got 5th grade or something and [TS]

00:26:35   going over to my friends house and for [TS]

00:26:36   the first time ever seeing a quicktime [TS]

00:26:38   video and my first thought being about [TS]

00:26:40   like it looks like that scene from our [TS]

00:26:42   sides but no frames per second yeah I [TS]

00:26:45   always associated with that now well [TS]

00:26:47   it's meant to be right it's dreamlike [TS]

00:26:49   it's it's it's not real rainy and [TS]

00:26:51   strange it's an inexpensive dreamlike [TS]

00:26:53   and the music makes a dreamlike to the [TS]

00:26:54   high violin there's something [TS]

00:26:56   fascinating that got me about that i [TS]

00:26:58   noticed that I've noticed before but i [TS]

00:27:00   was reminded of it this time [TS]

00:27:01   both of the battle scenes that Luke is [TS]

00:27:04   in in the cave and later on Cloud City [TS]

00:27:06   he draws his weapon first test yes I [TS]

00:27:09   definitely noticed that involves [TS]

00:27:11   everything in the cave it's obvious and [TS]

00:27:12   even in the second one even though you [TS]

00:27:14   know he's going to be like knowledge and [TS]

00:27:15   defense never for attack he doesn't even [TS]

00:27:16   get price and he just is not taking [TS]

00:27:18   instruction well yeah exactly i love [TS]

00:27:20   that and I love that he totally screws [TS]

00:27:22   that up so I slice and after it's been [TS]

00:27:24   drilled into him you know you're still [TS]

00:27:27   angry and pissed off right and speaking [TS]

00:27:29   of that's why you failed so the scene is [TS]

00:27:30   the one more like he notices the ship [TS]

00:27:32   sinking lure that's why he screws up one [TS]

00:27:33   of his other exercises and you know [TS]

00:27:35   starts talking to him about it and [TS]

00:27:37   and and and he gets all places like give [TS]

00:27:39   me a break and get the ship out of [TS]

00:27:40   moving rocks as one to visit gigantic [TS]

00:27:42   chef not doing that and then of course [TS]

00:27:44   Yoda you know sighs and goes I'm gonna [TS]

00:27:46   show this kid what's going on what this [TS]

00:27:48   scene is doing in the movie is its [TS]

00:27:49   widening the boundaries of the force [TS]

00:27:51   before we started this movie without the [TS]

00:27:52   Force to let you shoot things better and [TS]

00:27:54   make you disappear when you die then he [TS]

00:27:55   brought his lightsaber to his hand you [TS]

00:27:56   like this force is great i get the salt [TS]

00:27:58   from across the table and I can get the [TS]

00:27:59   ketchup I don't know my cup of coffee he [TS]

00:28:01   lists the entire ship out of the swamp [TS]

00:28:03   to say you think you know what the [TS]

00:28:04   forces about but you don't this little [TS]

00:28:05   green turd thing is going to lift the [TS]

00:28:07   entire x-wing out of the swamp by his [TS]

00:28:09   lonesome put it right down next to [TS]

00:28:11   student and show him the force is not [TS]

00:28:13   what you think it is when you thought it [TS]

00:28:15   wasn't being in the movie is not what [TS]

00:28:16   you thought it was me with lightsaber [TS]

00:28:17   you don't even know what the forces you [TS]

00:28:19   know and by the way i could have just to [TS]

00:28:21   prove my point I could just strangle you [TS]

00:28:22   but I didn't hurt anyone else feel like [TS]

00:28:24   that and i want to say a one-shot there [TS]

00:28:26   that I love which is that when when they [TS]

00:28:29   bring the x-wing down Luke reaches up [TS]

00:28:31   and slaps it right and i think the thing [TS]

00:28:34   that gets me there is again talking [TS]

00:28:35   about the production stuff it's a thing [TS]

00:28:37   it's a giant ship it's not a cgi [TS]

00:28:40   shipwright they built a freaking field [TS]

00:28:42   size x way it's there and i think that [TS]

00:28:45   to me is again one of those moments of [TS]

00:28:46   like that is awesome like that is so [TS]

00:28:49   cool but there's a thing and I also do i [TS]

00:28:51   do love the be totally kind of terrible [TS]

00:28:53   look that mark Campbell gives our to [TS]

00:28:56   like which is the totally telegraphed i [TS]

00:28:59   don't believe you but it's it's it's [TS]

00:29:02   it's bad it's not very good but at the [TS]

00:29:04   same time I love it there's something [TS]

00:29:05   great about that like he looks at my [TS]

00:29:07   diet shakes his head like a little [TS]

00:29:09   better as the Mayan ball he instead of [TS]

00:29:11   him saying yeah i did not realize it but [TS]

00:29:13   possibly says I don't believe it the [TS]

00:29:14   same way you would suggest you know [TS]

00:29:15   temple the exclamation I don't believe [TS]

00:29:18   it turns it into a teaching opportunity [TS]

00:29:20   to teachable moment is Luke that is why [TS]

00:29:22   you failed so i didn't think that seen [TS]

00:29:24   this is probably the boring part where [TS]

00:29:25   you jump around I didn't think it was [TS]

00:29:27   too long and boring and i love i love [TS]

00:29:28   the fact that you notice training inches [TS]

00:29:31   bounces off this loser yeah what is this [TS]

00:29:33   part this part is true I I among my [TS]

00:29:37   other notes here is the forces an [TS]

00:29:38   excellent a tool to use to stack rocks [TS]

00:29:41   the you also you can you can [TS]

00:29:46   one of Luke's training regimens appears [TS]

00:29:49   to be do a handstand and levitate [TS]

00:29:51   yourself and lift a series of boxes and [TS]

00:29:54   if you've got extra time a droid split [TS]

00:29:57   your mind into five pieces haha i know [TS]

00:29:59   it's like devote its it's eerie yeah i [TS]

00:30:02   wrote down luminous beings are we not [TS]

00:30:04   this crude matter that's my one of my [TS]

00:30:05   favorite love that one of my favorite [TS]

00:30:07   yoga lines trying to explain what this [TS]

00:30:09   whole force businesses about that it's [TS]

00:30:11   there's a bigger picture here which i [TS]

00:30:12   really like a rare polysyllabic word [TS]

00:30:15   from unit and you get the sense that [TS]

00:30:17   he's trying to cram it like he says he's [TS]

00:30:18   too all yeah according to all he seems [TS]

00:30:20   like it's the perfect age is like a [TS]

00:30:21   young adult is not when you train him [TS]

00:30:23   but you see that he's trying to cram in [TS]

00:30:24   so much information such a short time he [TS]

00:30:26   said it looks not processing if you look [TS]

00:30:28   at everything that Yoda says it's an [TS]

00:30:29   explanation of something but he's not [TS]

00:30:31   prepared to under it's just too much [TS]

00:30:33   information too fast how many i just [TS]

00:30:35   have a curiosity of them from your guy's [TS]

00:30:37   perspective how many days do you think [TS]

00:30:39   he's there [TS]

00:30:39   not that long maybe like oh we are [TS]

00:30:41   trying to calculate based on like how [TS]

00:30:43   long they spent running away from the [TS]

00:30:45   the fuckin Spencer anyway [TS]

00:30:47   yeah you don't know how long it took [TS]

00:30:48   them to fly without warp speed too well [TS]

00:30:51   to Cloud City exactly i mean it seems [TS]

00:30:54   like not more than a few days though [TS]

00:30:55   right they make it seem like it's not [TS]

00:30:57   long but I better be like a week yeah [TS]

00:30:59   they spend a week running away from the [TS]

00:31:01   Empire well they were they spend a week [TS]

00:31:02   for they couldn't they couldn't go to [TS]

00:31:04   light speed and takes awhile to get [TS]

00:31:06   around you also don't know how long they [TS]

00:31:07   were sitting on the back of the Star [TS]

00:31:09   Destroyer until they get dumped off for [TS]

00:31:11   track because you see them there and [TS]

00:31:12   it's all dark and you're like you know [TS]

00:31:14   so what's our next move that could hang [TS]

00:31:15   out there for a while I i don't know i [TS]

00:31:18   always seems to me like three or four [TS]

00:31:19   days and like man that's a that's a very [TS]

00:31:21   short time to cram in your Jedi training [TS]

00:31:22   it does seem faster in the movie like [TS]

00:31:24   this the question exactly how much Jedi [TS]

00:31:26   training to look actually get but I [TS]

00:31:28   think even if you think it's only been a [TS]

00:31:29   few days [TS]

00:31:30   it shows he looks like someone who's had [TS]

00:31:32   like a three day course on you know [TS]

00:31:33   professional driving and now he's not [TS]

00:31:35   camp Jedi boot camp right and and has [TS]

00:31:38   not absorbed it's like if you took a [TS]

00:31:39   three-day professional driving course [TS]

00:31:41   you are weakened really well yeah he's a [TS]

00:31:43   Jedi weekend warrior so so before we get [TS]

00:31:46   back to the the falken Luke has the [TS]

00:31:48   sudden kind of vision when he's upside [TS]

00:31:50   down and lifting boxes right of Leia and [TS]

00:31:55   Han and in pain a city in the clouds and [TS]

00:31:58   that leads leads him to leave [TS]

00:31:59   Yoda swamp scenes i love how everything [TS]

00:32:03   is wet i love how all the actors the [TS]

00:32:05   hair is wet down i love the light and [TS]

00:32:07   even though it's obviously in Dorset i [TS]

00:32:09   love the lighting in the Dagobah swamp [TS]

00:32:11   seeing as how everything with you is [TS]

00:32:12   getting is rained on and you have missed [TS]

00:32:14   missing looks tack sharp and solid and [TS]

00:32:17   it just somehow doesn't bother me that [TS]

00:32:19   it's a sound stage III just love those [TS]

00:32:21   scenes i love that I love that Luke [TS]

00:32:23   cracked his head on the on the inside of [TS]

00:32:25   you is not it's a great little scene [TS]

00:32:27   it's great little it's a great little [TS]

00:32:29   humor shot in an otherwise very serious [TS]

00:32:31   scene really and he doesn't think it's [TS]

00:32:32   funny he's frustrated to work the and [TS]

00:32:33   frustration but the viewers that thinks [TS]

00:32:35   it's funny what I was struck by in the [TS]

00:32:38   last seen with Yoda when you know band [TS]

00:32:40   appears since says no really you should [TS]

00:32:43   stick around and all that but the last [TS]

00:32:47   scene III it's actually beautifully [TS]

00:32:49   orchestrated where I love that sand it [TS]

00:32:51   just from the lighting and everything [TS]

00:32:52   been fades out there's the light of the [TS]

00:32:55   x-wing taking off then it darkens as the [TS]

00:32:58   x-wings going to black out that boy is [TS]

00:33:01   our last hope [TS]

00:33:02   and then it's just a little lighter and [TS]

00:33:04   Yoda says no there is another it's just [TS]

00:33:06   it's this amazing black you know and [TS]

00:33:09   then light and the dark and then light i [TS]

00:33:11   love that entire scene that entire scene [TS]

00:33:13   is shot [TS]

00:33:14   it's really great with Luke running [TS]

00:33:15   around trying to get away and both of [TS]

00:33:17   them are like that you know they're [TS]

00:33:18   trying first dissuade him and then they [TS]

00:33:20   realize nothing we're going to say is [TS]

00:33:22   going to get through this guy let's just [TS]

00:33:23   try and like give them at least the [TS]

00:33:25   barest advice you know don't give in to [TS]

00:33:27   hate write like this is this is the [TS]

00:33:29   basic toyota says is his last device is [TS]

00:33:31   not telling him how he can be successful [TS]

00:33:34   but just trying to tell him mine what [TS]

00:33:37   you have learned save you it can like [TS]

00:33:38   you may not know guys could keep this [TS]

00:33:40   could keep you alive listen to what I'm [TS]

00:33:42   saying no you're not gonna win come on [TS]

00:33:43   you're here you're screwed [TS]

00:33:45   but save you it can you is it possible [TS]

00:33:47   that you could not die so listen to our [TS]

00:33:49   advice i'll throw in my 1 continuity [TS]

00:33:51   nitpick here because it just because it [TS]

00:33:54   amuses me [TS]

00:33:55   where is the freaking ladder on the [TS]

00:33:57   x-wing go yes yes it will and the toy it [TS]

00:34:00   goes into the ziploc bag next to the [TS]

00:34:02   haha [TS]

00:34:04   just always pictured in having to likely [TS]

00:34:05   villages got like 20 ladders in the [TS]

00:34:07   cargo bay because it leaves it on every [TS]

00:34:09   flavor woman in every port and a ladder [TS]

00:34:11   and that's that's the Rebel Alliance way [TS]

00:34:15   that's my only yeah that's how they look [TS]

00:34:17   at the Rebel Alliance is terribly over [TS]

00:34:19   budget on ladders let me tell you and I [TS]

00:34:20   also point out since we do so many [TS]

00:34:21   doctor who and time travel things or [TS]

00:34:23   whatever the empire strikes back is a [TS]

00:34:25   time travel movie because he's vision of [TS]

00:34:28   the future is what motivates him to go [TS]

00:34:30   before the thing it's motivating him to [TS]

00:34:32   go is actually have some get but in [TS]

00:34:33   order for that vision of the future to [TS]

00:34:34   happen the future events have to happen [TS]

00:34:36   where those people talk about you can [TS]

00:34:37   have the vision back and you're [TS]

00:34:39   dismissed as Yoda says you know like you [TS]

00:34:42   know maybe you're right if you went now [TS]

00:34:44   maybe you could help them but if you [TS]

00:34:45   didn't go now maybe they wouldn't talk [TS]

00:34:47   to them and then you use just but you [TS]

00:34:49   destroy everything is a isn't enough [TS]

00:34:51   time travel movie but it ends up being [TS]

00:34:52   necessary and maybe you know depending [TS]

00:34:55   on how you look at it right skipped over [TS]

00:34:57   that the the good line of when they [TS]

00:34:59   they're cleaning the back and escaped [TS]

00:35:00   with the rest of the guy wanted to talk [TS]

00:35:01   about about the the boat we have the we [TS]

00:35:03   have the Bounty Hunter's which I know [TS]

00:35:05   some people love and you don't need disk [TS]

00:35:07   and then we have the garbage they hang [TS]

00:35:09   out with the garbage [TS]

00:35:10   the thing that got me on the bounty [TS]

00:35:11   hunters this time which I had never [TS]

00:35:12   thought about before was where the hell [TS]

00:35:14   did they come from are they hanging out [TS]

00:35:15   on the Star Destroyer they all flew in [TS]

00:35:17   on their ships a fluid after like two [TS]

00:35:20   days like oh yeah we hear this starter [TS]

00:35:21   story in the middle of nowhere is need [TS]

00:35:23   need some bounty hunters will you put it [TS]

00:35:25   on the credit unlike the Empire [TS]

00:35:26   craigslist saying wanted bounty hunters [TS]

00:35:29   come here to Darth Vader ship and we [TS]

00:35:30   have got a mission they're still in the [TS]

00:35:32   freaking asteroid field [TS]

00:35:34   well I feel like they just haven't left [TS]

00:35:36   the asteroid field because every bounty [TS]

00:35:38   hunters come to this asteroid field yeah [TS]

00:35:40   I actually yonders president way too [TS]

00:35:43   much though it's definitely a couple [TS]

00:35:45   months couple months and months at least [TS]

00:35:48   it was not a month it is it is not even [TS]

00:35:51   remotely a month it is a month at least [TS]

00:35:54   he had spent a month getting away from [TS]

00:35:56   these people [TS]

00:35:57   it's like four days I don't think it's [TS]

00:35:58   supposed to be and no it's not a long [TS]

00:36:00   time together but I think we did we skip [TS]

00:36:02   over the Emperor yeah we did oh there's [TS]

00:36:04   a brief period [TS]

00:36:05   yes there's the upper in Darth Vader's [TS]

00:36:06   office no he's in a different place is [TS]

00:36:08   kneeling on the little he's merely a [TS]

00:36:09   little kneeling thing that makes a giant [TS]

00:36:10   Emperor head appear but that establishes [TS]

00:36:13   that there's someone above Vader which [TS]

00:36:14   is important and also he doesn't show up [TS]

00:36:16   as a present [TS]

00:36:17   is a mini another like like right sighs [TS]

00:36:19   yeah he shows up is gigantic temper and [TS]

00:36:21   it shows that you know even Vader has a [TS]

00:36:23   boss and it makes you it makes you [TS]

00:36:25   fearless Emperor guy is and that you [TS]

00:36:27   need the Emperor's presence there not [TS]

00:36:28   sure the next movie but for this movie [TS]

00:36:30   so that in the later scenes Vader has [TS]

00:36:33   someone to play off against you know you [TS]

00:36:35   and me son we can take on this other [TS]

00:36:37   dude because you know that you need to [TS]

00:36:39   establish that Vader thinks it's so [TS]

00:36:42   important he wants to bring the ship out [TS]

00:36:43   of the asteroid field to send a clear [TS]

00:36:44   transmission kneels before him the guy [TS]

00:36:46   talks to him he has his head bowed he [TS]

00:36:48   says the son of Skywalker which is great [TS]

00:36:50   very careful where they don't show you [TS]

00:36:52   know pay off later in the thing and you [TS]

00:36:54   know that that is an important short [TS]

00:36:57   scene again economy not long scenes with [TS]

00:36:59   the Emperor he's not menacing and [TS]

00:37:00   mincing around we don't even seem to the [TS]

00:37:02   middle of the movie but it's important [TS]

00:37:03   to establish this for the rest of the [TS]

00:37:05   movie to work [TS]

00:37:06   there's great agendas in there right [TS]

00:37:07   like he's you know Vader's working [TS]

00:37:09   something the Emperor's working [TS]

00:37:10   something he could destroy us well I [TS]

00:37:12   don't really want to try to use my son [TS]

00:37:14   he could be turned [TS]

00:37:15   hey that's not that he could be like you [TS]

00:37:17   can be really important that you know [TS]

00:37:18   they're both thinking I think at that [TS]

00:37:19   point I can use them against the other [TS]

00:37:21   guy if I need to write and i love that [TS]

00:37:23   you know Vader almost looks friendly by [TS]

00:37:26   comparison the Emperor's freebie right [TS]

00:37:28   like scary disfigured actually the [TS]

00:37:30   original amber not but not the [TS]

00:37:31   palpitating one where they have baboon [TS]

00:37:33   eyes and it's like mainly takes makeup [TS]

00:37:35   and yeah those big icopter it's creepy [TS]

00:37:38   is messed up i wanted to mention my one [TS]

00:37:40   I think there's a it's a scene right [TS]

00:37:43   before that one of my favorite little [TS]

00:37:45   throwaway details is they come back to [TS]

00:37:48   the asteroid field an asteroid hits one [TS]

00:37:51   of the like bridges of the Star [TS]

00:37:53   Destroyer and your cut and you see the [TS]

00:37:55   hologram guy who like throw his hands up [TS]

00:37:57   and disappeared i just i love that you [TS]

00:37:59   if you blink you'll miss it but it's a [TS]

00:38:00   great little detail I i have to show [TS]

00:38:02   that to my son three times because the [TS]

00:38:04   first time I saw a pause in a citizen it [TS]

00:38:05   did you notice anything there and then i [TS]

00:38:07   showed them again and like I mean I [TS]

00:38:09   don't know if I thought you liked it [TS]

00:38:11   means I'm worried about seeing I pretty [TS]

00:38:13   sure I saw for the first time with a [TS]

00:38:14   great but that stuff is all over these [TS]

00:38:16   now also there's a scene I think maybe [TS]

00:38:18   even got to get the captain needa where [TS]

00:38:22   he strangles them I'll apologize to the [TS]

00:38:24   Emperor myself and then that's another [TS]

00:38:25   one of those great like for the first [TS]

00:38:28   time I ended up watching the other [TS]

00:38:29   officers [TS]

00:38:31   who are standing around after he chokes [TS]

00:38:33   him and they kind of like they're kind [TS]

00:38:35   of like milling and like peering around [TS]

00:38:37   and then when they dragged the corpse [TS]

00:38:39   out they they scream the hell away which [TS]

00:38:42   is a great little detail like oh crappy [TS]

00:38:44   strangle somebody is in a bad mood don't [TS]

00:38:45   know when we'll go talk to the boss [TS]

00:38:46   right now so in a bounty hunter saying [TS]

00:38:49   they've got this big menagerie of bounty [TS]

00:38:50   hunters right and we see all them and we [TS]

00:38:52   all have the action figures and know [TS]

00:38:53   their names but the importance of this [TS]

00:38:55   movie in the rest we will only one of [TS]

00:38:57   them is important and how is it [TS]

00:38:58   expressed which one is important like [TS]

00:38:59   three seconds later goes down to each [TS]

00:39:01   one of them says I want them alive blah [TS]

00:39:02   blah turns to one particular guy points [TS]

00:39:05   his finger in his face they do reverse [TS]

00:39:06   shot he says no decision degree that is [TS]

00:39:09   the bounty hunter that's important [TS]

00:39:10   because they took the time out the [TS]

00:39:11   wagons finger Adam he got a line he says [TS]

00:39:14   as you wish and yes little fair and then [TS]

00:39:16   he's the one where the one who were [TS]

00:39:18   going to be mine obviously we follow him [TS]

00:39:19   we see that he's smart enough to follow [TS]

00:39:20   hands plant stuff like that again [TS]

00:39:23   so tight because there's so much you [TS]

00:39:24   have to do in this movie how do we [TS]

00:39:26   express this is the important bounty [TS]

00:39:27   hunter i can do it in 1.5 seconds with [TS]

00:39:30   one reverse camera angle shot and one [TS]

00:39:31   line from each side [TS]

00:39:33   great great filmmaker agreed they attack [TS]

00:39:35   i love that I love that they share your [TS]

00:39:37   wait you're not actually attacking a [TS]

00:39:38   Star Destroyer right that's a great [TS]

00:39:41   moment of desperation right they tried [TS]

00:39:42   to use the hyperdrive again it's still [TS]

00:39:44   broken [TS]

00:39:45   oh crap you know and that literally the [TS]

00:39:47   last ditch attempt and yet it pays off [TS]

00:39:49   it totally works you know and we have [TS]

00:39:52   that moment of where the hell did they [TS]

00:39:53   go as they release the landing claw and [TS]

00:39:55   attaching up a hero music and everything [TS]

00:39:57   a little late getting this very sweet [TS]

00:39:59   kiss he says you do have your moments [TS]

00:40:00   not many but you do have them which is a [TS]

00:40:02   genuine expression of affection and [TS]

00:40:05   admiration without all that crap that [TS]

00:40:07   the beginning without the garden this [TS]

00:40:08   although there's some of that too right [TS]

00:40:11   like you know he's a gambler conman [TS]

00:40:13   scoundrel you'd like him [TS]

00:40:15   yeah but it comes off of giving him a [TS]

00:40:17   kiss and it but it's sweet its it's just [TS]

00:40:19   plain suite of two people there are you [TS]

00:40:21   know a a private moment I expressing [TS]

00:40:24   themselves i think that's that's more [TS]

00:40:26   sweet and romantic and the kissing scene [TS]

00:40:27   and i love the every time i hear the [TS]

00:40:30   line you know Lando system i think [TS]

00:40:33   there's not a season's a man baby [TS]

00:40:36   you know hello also is it isn't it great [TS]

00:40:39   that the Millennium Falcon doesn't have [TS]

00:40:40   a rearview mirror has really poor [TS]

00:40:42   visibility like any good sports car [TS]

00:40:44   yeah seriously it's got a blind spot [TS]

00:40:46   where she's like 40 feet behind them and [TS]

00:40:49   they're like we're great because just go [TS]

00:40:51   to Cloud City Boba Fett is bold [TS]

00:40:53   that's what I'll say he's pulling that [TS]

00:40:55   ship is heavily modified yeah you know [TS]

00:40:57   he's got he's hiding he's got like [TS]

00:40:59   stealth stuff no ship that small has a [TS]

00:41:01   cloaking device haha unless you have [TS]

00:41:03   sold over that because he's that awesome [TS]

00:41:04   also they're not paying attention [TS]

00:41:05   they're just trying to get to Cloud City [TS]

00:41:07   they gotta look at the gps the whole [TS]

00:41:09   time is no light speed [TS]

00:41:10   so my thought my thought was uh when we [TS]

00:41:12   meet our ability Williams Lando [TS]

00:41:14   Calrissian i thought hey it's an it's a [TS]

00:41:18   new character which is interesting like [TS]

00:41:20   you know a a major characters introduced [TS]

00:41:24   who is knew who was not in the last [TS]

00:41:26   movie who's a friend of ours initio de [TS]

00:41:29   who's a puppet but and then there's the [TS]

00:41:32   disability Williams variants usually [TS]

00:41:34   shows up for what 40 minutes maybe he's [TS]

00:41:37   not in it that much of it but he's [TS]

00:41:38   crucial i agree he's a major character [TS]

00:41:40   and he shows up you know two-thirds of [TS]

00:41:43   the age of 35 minutes left i wanted and [TS]

00:41:45   what an entrance he has to what an [TS]

00:41:46   entrance he comes out with his cape [TS]

00:41:48   flying behind him with his onto our [TS]

00:41:50   guards down like we were only there just [TS]

00:41:52   just for the joke when I love that he [TS]

00:41:55   sort of see you know if this is clearly [TS]

00:41:57   in that again judge to John's point [TS]

00:41:59   about economy you know like we have [TS]

00:42:01   summed up the relationship between these [TS]

00:42:02   two guys right in a graphical lines i [TS]

00:42:04   like to keep your eyes open want you [TS]

00:42:06   know like that you trust this guy course [TS]

00:42:09   I trust them you know like it i think [TS]

00:42:11   there's that you know we get this idea [TS]

00:42:13   between these two guys and we get that [TS]

00:42:14   little exchange between the two what you [TS]

00:42:16   done to my ship [TS]

00:42:17   I you lost doing various square you know [TS]

00:42:19   and do you still hanging out with this [TS]

00:42:21   loser Chewbacca like you know we get the [TS]

00:42:22   idea like this is a guy they've known [TS]

00:42:24   for awhile they have some history with [TS]

00:42:25   him he's clearly very much in many ways [TS]

00:42:28   cut from the same cloth as hon but this [TS]

00:42:32   is where we start we start to get an [TS]

00:42:33   idea of like the diverging paths like [TS]

00:42:35   maricon might be happy not following [TS]

00:42:37   with the rebellion perhaps well and [TS]

00:42:39   landis got that great line that that is [TS]

00:42:40   mostly I think off-screen and it says [TS]

00:42:43   he's walking away where where he [TS]

00:42:46   basically says well you know I ended up [TS]

00:42:48   being a businessman because [TS]

00:42:50   you know that it was necessary I forget [TS]

00:42:52   exactly what the line is but you know [TS]

00:42:54   he's basically explaining i am I he is a [TS]

00:42:56   respectable businessman that when it was [TS]

00:42:58   never expected sort of it just sort of [TS]

00:43:01   ended up that way now he's got this [TS]

00:43:02   cloud city thing and all and i do love [TS]

00:43:05   that in that first scene where he says [TS]

00:43:07   hello what have we got and then you know [TS]

00:43:10   he kisses her hand right and the look [TS]

00:43:12   that Carrie Fisher has on her face in [TS]

00:43:14   that one scene right is probably to my [TS]

00:43:16   mind the most genuine smile you see from [TS]

00:43:18   her in this entire film she looks like [TS]

00:43:21   he's just so damn charming right [TS]

00:43:24   he has a diff has a different approach [TS]

00:43:26   than hon that's definitely a different [TS]

00:43:28   approach and he does that he goes the [TS]

00:43:30   great line he says I'm the administrator [TS]

00:43:31   of this facility but he's got to use the [TS]

00:43:32   big words to impress the ladies to show [TS]

00:43:34   these are just that sophisticated man [TS]

00:43:36   and not just us a smuggler he totally [TS]

00:43:38   looks up Threepio to you imagine that [TS]

00:43:40   Chewbacca is basically helping him give [TS]

00:43:44   him a hard time with that you hang [TS]

00:43:46   around with this loser [TS]

00:43:47   it had better bring yes he is a loser [TS]

00:43:51   anyway how you doing to buck up and [TS]

00:43:54   really friend [TS]

00:43:56   Lando is again and Lando's another one [TS]

00:43:57   of my favorite characters i just i think [TS]

00:43:59   he's these years and part of it is just [TS]

00:44:01   so much of that is is Billy Dee Williams [TS]

00:44:03   charm countries he delivers every line [TS]

00:44:06   like you know what the best thing about [TS]

00:44:08   this charm though is if you know you [TS]

00:44:09   mean you know what during the whole time [TS]

00:44:10   that is putting on this charm act he [TS]

00:44:12   knows I empires here he knows he's gonna [TS]

00:44:14   turn surrender and you know he's [TS]

00:44:15   conflicted about it so there is a [TS]

00:44:16   tension to his demeanor during these [TS]

00:44:20   scenes where he's trying to act like the [TS]

00:44:21   old buddy old pallet he is but he's [TS]

00:44:23   being torn up on the inside about the [TS]

00:44:24   whole deer and there's a little bit of [TS]

00:44:26   that brittleness if you know it's if you [TS]

00:44:28   know what's coming if you watch the [TS]

00:44:29   scenes that he's not you know it could [TS]

00:44:31   just be he's not as good actor Harrison [TS]

00:44:33   for but it works in other contexts as [TS]

00:44:35   well you don't know quite yet that he's [TS]

00:44:37   been subverted by the Empire it's only [TS]

00:44:40   later when we realize that [TS]

00:44:42   c-3po when he's reassembled that he has [TS]

00:44:45   right in that first scene he stumbles [TS]

00:44:47   onto a room that's got stormtrooper sent [TS]

00:44:51   it right so they are there but that's [TS]

00:44:53   sort of retroactive that you you don't [TS]

00:44:55   you don't realize that they've been [TS]

00:44:56   there all along until later so you know [TS]

00:44:59   you're giving he landed the benefit of [TS]

00:45:01   the doubt when intern in reality he [TS]

00:45:03   doesn't [TS]

00:45:04   service yeah you know that afraid to not [TS]

00:45:06   explain what shoes 3 c-3po you have the [TS]

00:45:08   other what are you doing like any and [TS]

00:45:10   then you see a piece of them but they [TS]

00:45:11   ended day that you'll find out about [TS]

00:45:13   this later they continue with the movie [TS]

00:45:15   yeah well I love the subtle the subtle [TS]

00:45:18   dialogue right before they enter the [TS]

00:45:20   room with Darth Vader and the [TS]

00:45:21   stormtroopers everything is like I've [TS]

00:45:22   just made a deal that will keep the [TS]

00:45:24   Empire out of here forever and you never [TS]

00:45:26   notice that the first couple times you [TS]

00:45:27   watchin ya own are kinda I didn't notice [TS]

00:45:31   it come up as a seven-year-old you as [TS]

00:45:35   someone who hasn't seen is only seen the [TS]

00:45:36   movie 8,000 times but not 800 that [TS]

00:45:38   800,000 times [TS]

00:45:39   well that's when he's lowering he's [TS]

00:45:41   lowering the boom I i love the Chewbacca [TS]

00:45:43   c-3po access and mcleod city seems we're [TS]

00:45:45   there [TS]

00:45:46   they're the ones who are linked together [TS]

00:45:47   and and he's the one who finds the parts [TS]

00:45:49   of c-3po and there's a great moment [TS]

00:45:51   where he's doing the alas poor Yorick [TS]

00:45:53   moment where he's sitting there cradling [TS]

00:45:56   threepio's head in his hand [TS]

00:45:58   just last the skull and with dan don't [TS]

00:46:02   let him skip the stand go back oh yeah [TS]

00:46:03   don't I just I wanted to get doing it [TS]

00:46:05   there's just a lot of a lot of things [TS]

00:46:07   that a lot of great scenes in their shoe [TS]

00:46:08   and c3po throughout all of this where [TS]

00:46:10   we're too is the one who notices the [TS]

00:46:12   c-3po disappears and he finds his parts [TS]

00:46:14   and reassembles and backward and all of [TS]

00:46:16   that I just a great combination he runs [TS]

00:46:18   around with him on his back having its [TS]

00:46:20   that's a lot of great stuff there [TS]

00:46:21   yeah the whole scene i think there's a [TS]

00:46:23   very fascinating scene we see the scene [TS]

00:46:25   with Harmon layout right you know [TS]

00:46:27   domestic almost you know they're there [TS]

00:46:29   she's all dressed up and this borrowed [TS]

00:46:31   clothes he comes in [TS]

00:46:33   I don't trust me there let's talk about [TS]

00:46:35   it as you know as equals [TS]

00:46:37   but like that the relationship has [TS]

00:46:38   probably changed at that point right now [TS]

00:46:40   the two of them a and you know I don't [TS]

00:46:42   know this time around for the first time [TS]

00:46:43   in myself i found myself thinking they [TS]

00:46:45   probably had sex right yeah good idea [TS]

00:46:47   that it was just it just click kiss her [TS]

00:46:49   on the forehead right exactly there's [TS]

00:46:51   something very you know established [TS]

00:46:53   about it at that point and I that's a [TS]

00:46:55   fascinating little scene and he's not [TS]

00:46:57   bothered by Lando's advances anymore [TS]

00:46:59   because he's confident in their [TS]

00:47:00   relationship agency rolls eyes at them [TS]

00:47:02   yeah the great throw away to at the you [TS]

00:47:05   know something wrong with your droid [TS]

00:47:06   know why the scene I thought you were [TS]

00:47:10   going to go back to was yeah this is [TS]

00:47:12   what everyone says about the movie but [TS]

00:47:13   we have to put in our progress as well [TS]

00:47:15   so he leads that land on everyone [TS]

00:47:17   is another thing the door open the enemy [TS]

00:47:19   Darth Vader quieres con solo immediately [TS]

00:47:22   takes out his guys should start there [TS]

00:47:23   because when you see the bad guy you [TS]

00:47:25   don't go so dark we meet now you shoot [TS]

00:47:28   him immediately and the best thing about [TS]

00:47:30   it is that it totally doesn't work with [TS]

00:47:32   others like yeah I don't think so super [TS]

00:47:34   not take that gun lock ya fault of my [TS]

00:47:36   head have this and the contrast to write [TS]

00:47:39   like you know I i love that it's this [TS]

00:47:40   white pristine oh yeah [TS]

00:47:43   again I like they love to play with this [TS]

00:47:45   you later is sitting at of working [TS]

00:47:47   dining room table what you like it [TS]

00:47:50   they'll sit down and up that's a great [TS]

00:47:53   banquet right that's gotta pay and then [TS]

00:47:55   and then after he disarms and then boba [TS]

00:47:57   fett comes in from the side is like yep [TS]

00:47:59   i'm here to dude it's like the darth [TS]

00:48:00   vader roast is gonna be going to see [TS]

00:48:02   that one scene we're all just sitting [TS]

00:48:04   awkwardly having dinner could you pass [TS]

00:48:07   the salt [TS]

00:48:07   Robot Chicken did that did that there [TS]

00:48:09   just is higher head that I get years ago [TS]

00:48:12   yeah yeah and the thing is that the [TS]

00:48:14   other thing about this is that you know [TS]

00:48:15   this is the most this is the most makes [TS]

00:48:19   the the grito on shooting first business [TS]

00:48:22   you know makes the ridiculous is like [TS]

00:48:24   the character is established to [TS]

00:48:26   immediately fired his weapon upon seeing [TS]

00:48:28   the enemy the only reason he didn't [TS]

00:48:30   immediately sugary toes because we got [TS]

00:48:31   the jump on them and had the gun drawn [TS]

00:48:33   in person he had to talk while he got [TS]

00:48:34   his general on shoots first for crying [TS]

00:48:36   out loud he doesn't he doesn't even like [TS]

00:48:38   Chewie growls at least on immediately [TS]

00:48:41   fires and draws his fasting and didn't [TS]

00:48:43   fire once you just aim shoot kill kill [TS]

00:48:45   kill [TS]

00:48:46   that's hot that's hot solo in that scene [TS]

00:48:47   he is a mayor and of action on solo [TS]

00:48:49   shoots first people absolutely that is n [TS]

00:48:52   as it is great it's Connecticut shot [TS]

00:48:55   gorgeously and you have that wonderful [TS]

00:48:58   you know absorb the couple blaster bolts [TS]

00:48:59   of the hand raised the other hand give [TS]

00:49:01   me the gun and it's just like the [TS]

00:49:02   stormtroopers come flooding in and now [TS]

00:49:04   we've hit that point right we've hit the [TS]

00:49:06   point that we talked about words like [TS]

00:49:07   everything is just gotten so much worse [TS]

00:49:11   oh yeah you know and i think we had that [TS]

00:49:13   brief is that great we had the [TS]

00:49:15   descending thing right like we had you [TS]

00:49:17   know the asteroid the hyperdrive the [TS]

00:49:19   space slug being chased gotta hide [TS]

00:49:23   wait we've got this little plateau we [TS]

00:49:24   made it cloud city maybe we're out of it [TS]

00:49:26   oh wait the rug gets pulled out from [TS]

00:49:28   under you and now you are truly the [TS]

00:49:30   thing that you [TS]

00:49:30   spent this entire movie trying to get [TS]

00:49:33   away from has finally caught up with you [TS]

00:49:35   and you are screwed [TS]

00:49:37   and i think that's that's brilliance and [TS]

00:49:39   it's all because the bubble that was [TS]

00:49:40   there too [TS]

00:49:41   yes both fit with his little sawed-off [TS]

00:49:43   back on and you know we'd be honored [TS]

00:49:46   future you know he's got a smug little [TS]

00:49:47   smile under there when he steps out from [TS]

00:49:49   the side is like that that's right hello [TS]

00:49:51   yeah you too i'm going to get to read [TS]

00:49:54   Jabba the Hutt sends his regards [TS]

00:49:56   so so something that that I also find [TS]

00:49:59   funny in this movie that I didn't notice [TS]

00:50:00   the first dozen times i watched it is [TS]

00:50:03   that you know I'm getting car frozen by [TS]

00:50:06   amy and the carbon freeze is a he's just [TS]

00:50:10   like a side effect here just testing it [TS]

00:50:13   out everyone is about Luke he's just [TS]

00:50:15   well it's not even bait is it [TS]

00:50:17   I don't want to hurt Luke we better make [TS]

00:50:19   sure this works it doesn't want you and [TS]

00:50:20   all he wants someone called a Skywalker [TS]

00:50:23   yeah I love that scene with Lando's is [TS]

00:50:26   everyone coming together [TS]

00:50:27   okay yeah we're the bait [TS]

00:50:30   yeah i mean i love that whole scene to [TS]

00:50:32   orlando comes in right I never even [TS]

00:50:34   asked me any got home just tortured him [TS]

00:50:36   with a thing that makes the little love [TS]

00:50:38   droid with the syringe in the first [TS]

00:50:39   movie look awfully table yeah never got [TS]

00:50:42   a whole rig of torture i love the cloud [TS]

00:50:44   city clearly has all this stuff just [TS]

00:50:45   handy when they brought in the other I [TS]

00:50:47   know but they've got the rooms [TS]

00:50:49   I don't always reminds me of my for the [TS]

00:50:50   fact that my boyfriend evan i spent a [TS]

00:50:52   long time building this like [TS]

00:50:53   online-based text adventure that was [TS]

00:50:55   like we recreated crowds cloud city in [TS]

00:50:57   it and was like I we got to make the [TS]

00:50:58   torture room like seems a little weird [TS]

00:51:00   am glad that you have a torture on let's [TS]

00:51:01   just call it like out like a [TS]

00:51:02   multi-purpose room to room temperature [TS]

00:51:05   you can entertain you know what exactly [TS]

00:51:08   whatever ball i'll make it have sparks [TS]

00:51:10   and then we get that we get the land o [TS]

00:51:12   scenes right where we we realize Lando [TS]

00:51:14   starts to realize that he too [TS]

00:51:15   he thought he was gonna skate by our [TS]

00:51:17   deal is getting worse all the time right [TS]

00:51:19   and so and then Lando goes into Kentucky [TS]

00:51:22   goes in the contingency to write you [TS]

00:51:23   think start thinking you can tell he [TS]

00:51:25   starts thinking about contingencies i [TS]

00:51:26   love that he comes into that scene and [TS]

00:51:28   you know to talk to too hot and again [TS]

00:51:30   just to speak to the radio dramas one of [TS]

00:51:32   the nice little like touches they put on [TS]

00:51:34   there is you know hon comments and in [TS]

00:51:36   that scene that is like yeah I kind of [TS]

00:51:38   think Lando came in here don't let me [TS]

00:51:40   take a shot Adam and and I think you [TS]

00:51:42   kind of got that impression right that [TS]

00:51:44   you like [TS]

00:51:44   he knows what's gonna happen and he's [TS]

00:51:46   genuinely like he's really upset when [TS]

00:51:48   the guards starts to wail on him right [TS]

00:51:50   like he's like no no no this time yeah [TS]

00:51:53   that's not what I came here to do you [TS]

00:51:54   know I came here to actually make amends [TS]

00:51:56   and you know that's not realize that's [TS]

00:51:58   not quite going to play out the way I [TS]

00:51:59   wanted to but I don't want you guys to [TS]

00:52:00   beat him up and on gilt services anymore [TS]

00:52:02   it guilt trips and more which is another [TS]

00:52:04   reason you might be there like an injury [TS]

00:52:06   that I shouldn't do this you're a real [TS]

00:52:07   hero [TS]

00:52:08   yeah you know it's even a nice nice like [TS]

00:52:10   pick up wipe when they picked him up I [TS]

00:52:12   always loved that the white goes up with [TS]

00:52:14   them as a layout we pick up on the [TS]

00:52:17   altering the deal business where they're [TS]

00:52:19   like I'm alternate Airport pride and [TS]

00:52:21   altered any further so for the people [TS]

00:52:23   who appointed these people chasing you [TS]

00:52:24   may not may not have noticed the reason [TS]

00:52:26   Darth Vader alters the deal is because [TS]

00:52:28   in that scene he and Leia share and [TS]

00:52:31   knowing look and Vader figures out that [TS]

00:52:33   maybe doesn't figure out the layers [TS]

00:52:34   related to him but figures out that [TS]

00:52:36   there's some sort of force thing going [TS]

00:52:37   on with leia and it's he's not gonna let [TS]

00:52:39   last a cloud said he wanted to come with [TS]

00:52:41   them put the princess and the Wookiee on [TS]

00:52:43   my ship he alters deal because and they [TS]

00:52:45   show that look they show shot of him [TS]

00:52:47   shot of her knowing look shared between [TS]

00:52:49   them at that point Vader realize the [TS]

00:52:51   system for stuff going on with layer [TS]

00:52:53   that's why he alters the deals not just [TS]

00:52:55   arbitrary I'm being mean and this is [TS]

00:52:56   something that if you don't if you don't [TS]

00:52:58   understand that every single shot in [TS]

00:52:59   this movie is significant like the [TS]

00:53:01   kubrick movie like a Hitchcock movie you [TS]

00:53:02   will miss that I don't know about the [TS]

00:53:04   force thing I i think it could be more [TS]

00:53:05   general than that the ya go what is the [TS]

00:53:08   value because he wants Luke there's the [TS]

00:53:10   fact that he has had they stay cher [TS]

00:53:12   that's that look right before he changes [TS]

00:53:14   the deal its go back and look at the [TS]

00:53:16   scene [TS]

00:53:17   trust me all right I don't think it [TS]

00:53:19   necessarily has to be about the force i [TS]

00:53:20   agree with Jason I guess I'd always read [TS]

00:53:22   it as he needs he continues to have [TS]

00:53:24   leverage right just in case this whole [TS]

00:53:25   thing with Luke doesn't plan out he's [TS]

00:53:27   still got it you're right that that's [TS]

00:53:28   what people think he's just doing it [TS]

00:53:29   because well he's got all the power so [TS]

00:53:30   why should he give any concessions but [TS]

00:53:32   they inserted that one that shot of him [TS]

00:53:34   shot of her scene and again [TS]

00:53:36   Vader's expression doesn't change [TS]

00:53:37   because he's wearing a mask but there is [TS]

00:53:39   some action going on there belay as [TS]

00:53:41   expression is definitely the like he [TS]

00:53:43   sees that that better is looking into [TS]

00:53:45   her it's not just she's not looking at [TS]

00:53:47   him like I don't like you're mean guy [TS]

00:53:49   you're the bad guy and I'm the good guy [TS]

00:53:50   she is scared and it's a knowing look [TS]

00:53:53   shared between them right before that [TS]

00:53:54   same i really like i really like the [TS]

00:53:57   the reaction shot between you know when [TS]

00:54:00   why i love that she freaks out right [TS]

00:54:02   like you know he's like you know what [TS]

00:54:03   they're not putting my best friend into [TS]

00:54:05   this this crazy like carbon freeze thing [TS]

00:54:07   and he starts like throwing [TS]

00:54:08   stormtroopers around on us to calm down [TS]

00:54:10   just like no one's gonna get basically [TS]

00:54:12   killed right like his debaters got no [TS]

00:54:14   point for him right he doesn't need to e [TS]

00:54:16   he could just get is often there would [TS]

00:54:18   be no problem with that [TS]

00:54:19   yeah you look at on again haha never [TS]

00:54:22   ever the secret protector was like no [TS]

00:54:24   you have to take care of the press and [TS]

00:54:26   that's a great shot right because she [TS]

00:54:29   sort of comes around [TS]

00:54:30   Chewie there and then leans against him [TS]

00:54:32   a little bit and i love that shot like [TS]

00:54:34   because there is you know you get the [TS]

00:54:36   idea in that moment Hans relationship [TS]

00:54:39   with chewy has transferred to lay right [TS]

00:54:41   like the cheese been embraced and [TS]

00:54:43   brought into this family and that [TS]

00:54:46   there's there's now a bond the strength [TS]

00:54:48   of the bond between him and chewy is now [TS]

00:54:50   we sort of passed on to her and and I [TS]

00:54:53   think that really is a great little [TS]

00:54:54   tying it together [TS]

00:54:56   I'm and now chewy is going to be [TS]

00:54:57   protecting layer with the same intensity [TS]

00:55:00   in ferocity that he brought to [TS]

00:55:01   protecting on your next topic [TS]

00:55:04   no i love you i know at what I don't [TS]

00:55:07   think we need to dwell on that we all [TS]

00:55:09   know that seeing ad-lib if we know it's [TS]

00:55:11   great isn't it great he has a good [TS]

00:55:13   heroes departure from this film it's not [TS]

00:55:16   in heroic where he's trying to save [TS]

00:55:18   somebody's in Harare was doing things [TS]

00:55:19   emotionally her or because you just [TS]

00:55:20   discussed his hands and arms are did I [TS]

00:55:23   you know it doesn't make any sense i [TS]

00:55:25   know that if i was in handcuffs break [TS]

00:55:28   the brutal he tries to escape the last [TS]

00:55:30   moment actually think they take the [TS]

00:55:31   handcuffs off his arms or his upper arms [TS]

00:55:33   are like tied with this weird thing [TS]

00:55:34   behind his back which I never understood [TS]

00:55:35   every trial the times temporary is very [TS]

00:55:39   hot at that that's that's removed as [TS]

00:55:41   he's lowered into the pit but i love the [TS]

00:55:43   shot when they bring them out and the [TS]

00:55:45   Argonauts like slam him like tipping [TS]

00:55:48   over [TS]

00:55:48   yes common with the music unary alright [TS]

00:55:51   like all and you see the stable and it's [TS]

00:55:55   just all man it is terrifying and [TS]

00:55:57   heartbreaking and everything at the same [TS]

00:55:59   time and you wonder like oh my god is he [TS]

00:56:02   a lot you know that is the there's a [TS]

00:56:03   there's a legitimate moment of his of [TS]

00:56:06   crap is he just like dead because we're [TS]

00:56:09   getting towards the end of this movie [TS]

00:56:10   and it's like oh my god they're not [TS]

00:56:11   going to [TS]

00:56:11   even like you know you did we get this [TS]

00:56:12   increasingly feeling of being over our [TS]

00:56:14   head as we realize how much longer can [TS]

00:56:17   they go commit you is they are they [TS]

00:56:18   going to save him and I and I think that [TS]

00:56:20   especially when we hit that later scene [TS]

00:56:22   where the word Boba Fett's ship takes [TS]

00:56:24   off and you see layers face and you're [TS]

00:56:25   like holy crap maybe they're how what's [TS]

00:56:29   going to happen here [TS]

00:56:30   yeah what's going on but you're being [TS]

00:56:35   put into carbon freeze [TS]

00:56:37   what if he doesn't survive is worth a [TS]

00:56:39   lot to me [TS]

00:56:41   Empire will compensate you need eyes [TS]

00:56:43   would've been right mind is gonna be [TS]

00:56:57   chewy joy this won't help me [TS]

00:56:59   hey strength will be another time [TS]

00:57:02   the princess you have to take care of [TS]

00:57:07   them [TS]

00:57:08   you hear me [TS]

00:57:12   [Music] [TS]

00:57:26   I love you [TS]

00:57:30   [Music] [TS]

00:57:33   it's a great great moment about working [TS]

00:57:38   like we thought it would and yeah i like [TS]

00:57:41   all that I mean I love Lando's little [TS]

00:57:42   turnabout again a little love the little [TS]

00:57:45   tidbit that the the Imperial officers [TS]

00:57:46   escorting them is jeremy bulloch who [TS]

00:57:48   also is the guy inside but with it he [TS]

00:57:52   disputed I guess the guy who's supposed [TS]

00:57:53   to be the imperial officer wasn't they [TS]

00:57:55   didn't have anybody like a you play this [TS]

00:57:56   role too dark Vader and Luke Skywalker [TS]

00:57:59   so that's the best thing about this [TS]

00:58:01   scene is the I iconic red visuals that [TS]

00:58:04   scene that I know the place where Luke [TS]

00:58:07   eventually has led to any means Darth [TS]

00:58:08   Vader is just bathed in blood red light [TS]

00:58:11   and black stuff and they're not afraid [TS]

00:58:12   just it's but I'm practically [TS]

00:58:14   monochromatic there is darkness and [TS]

00:58:16   there is red light and interesting [TS]

00:58:18   patterns and futuristic patterns but [TS]

00:58:19   didn't need to have big columns of [TS]

00:58:21   lasers in the background or flashing [TS]

00:58:24   lights or anything like that [TS]

00:58:25   well at the top there's the like there's [TS]

00:58:27   like the blue top and then they descend [TS]

00:58:29   into the red kind of Hell right I love [TS]

00:58:31   that little elevator he comes up like I [TS]

00:58:34   was like I was one of those in my house [TS]

00:58:36   yeah his path to get there is like [TS]

00:58:38   strange and creepy it's basically the [TS]

00:58:39   building tension I mean you have you [TS]

00:58:41   know he didn't see anybody that well any [TS]

00:58:43   any knows it's a trap to right we have [TS]

00:58:44   that layers like spilled the beans and [TS]

00:58:46   he's like well yeah it's the first one [TS]

00:58:49   she yells it he doesn't get it because [TS]

00:58:51   he didn't she goes [TS]

00:58:52   Rex yourself free one more second Luke [TS]

00:58:54   it's against the trap [TS]

00:58:56   she can't figure it out you know so get [TS]

00:58:58   Admiral Ackbar going to do that in the [TS]

00:59:00   next movie but yea leg gets first dibs [TS]

00:59:02   out and it was looking with information [TS]

00:59:05   that it's a trap [TS]

00:59:06   I'm not someone just right and you know [TS]

00:59:07   why cause he didn't learn crap [TS]

00:59:09   Lou knows it's a trap flying in no but [TS]

00:59:12   yeah I part of you think well because [TS]

00:59:16   you wonder why doesn't go after layer [TS]

00:59:18   right like he's there to ostensibly to [TS]

00:59:19   save his friend right he's gone he's [TS]

00:59:21   gone right to confront Vader is a [TS]

00:59:23   haunted yn3l on to a certain extent also [TS]

00:59:26   because you get the Yolo does tell him [TS]

00:59:28   that they have to be stopped right now [TS]

00:59:30   you know so he does have a little bit of [TS]

00:59:32   conflicting advice there so I I am I [TS]

00:59:36   like the fact that did the in the battle [TS]

00:59:38   between Luke and Darth Vader there's a [TS]

00:59:39   I'm better uses his telekinetic you know [TS]

00:59:43   basically force power to throw throw big [TS]

00:59:46   things [TS]

00:59:47   at Luke which is like you think it's [TS]

00:59:49   just about having that fancy lightsaber [TS]

00:59:51   but it's more than that and the end up [TS]

00:59:52   knocking out a window at which point one [TS]

00:59:54   of my favorite elements Lucas just [TS]

00:59:56   pelted by garbage click it's so thick [TS]

00:59:56   pelted by garbage click it's so thick [TS]

01:00:00   what what's great is if you ever see the [TS]

01:00:03   behind-the-scenes stuff there's just [TS]

01:00:05   guys standing on screaming that [TS]

01:00:08   arbitrary but before you get that though [TS]

01:00:11   they missed a bit where so Dan already [TS]

01:00:13   covered the fact that looked Ross's [TS]

01:00:15   saver for us my favorite part of that [TS]

01:00:16   scene is that looked across the sabres [TS]

01:00:19   vs hardy goes up there later doesn't [TS]

01:00:21   feel the need to hold the saber with [TS]

01:00:23   both hands that morning but I could [TS]

01:00:25   probably you know all right come on you [TS]

01:00:27   want to do this thing with the [TS]

01:00:28   lightsaber that I'm not left-handed [TS]

01:00:29   either haha that is it is exactly i love [TS]

01:00:32   that he jumps down the stairs though the [TS]

01:00:34   scene where he jumps down the stairs the [TS]

01:00:35   Cape flowing behind him it's like holy [TS]

01:00:37   crap now the thing is eventually in the [TS]

01:00:39   scene he does feel the need to do with [TS]

01:00:41   two hands he does get a little nick on [TS]

01:00:43   the shoulder pisses me off cuts off [TS]

01:00:44   looks and because of it but it's it's [TS]

01:00:46   such a great imbalance of power that [TS]

01:00:48   Vader's so much more powerful here than [TS]

01:00:50   Luke that he's just like all right for [TS]

01:00:52   you guys you got his uh his voice in the [TS]

01:00:54   beginning you can't see them yet you [TS]

01:00:55   know [TS]

01:00:56   yeah you have learned much well you're [TS]

01:00:58   not a Jedi yet the creepy things we're [TS]

01:00:59   even seeing you see him look draws first [TS]

01:01:01   Vader's like now Tim one hand for a [TS]

01:01:03   little while and it escalates and get [TS]

01:01:05   checked out the window it's a great [TS]

01:01:06   fight scene you've got that brief moment [TS]

01:01:08   but he does have that one moment of [TS]

01:01:09   being taken back where Luke jumps out of [TS]

01:01:11   the carbon freeze president yeah nailed [TS]

01:01:14   that wasn't my friend Luke it's him with [TS]

01:01:17   the hose right and he's like yeah and [TS]

01:01:19   then moved away from around right buddy [TS]

01:01:22   any gets two hands with them on the [TS]

01:01:23   thing it's a Nick on the show like it's [TS]

01:01:25   a great fight scene in terms of the [TS]

01:01:26   shifting of the balance of power in the [TS]

01:01:28   end up the part about that i noticed [TS]

01:01:29   most of all this time is after Luke goes [TS]

01:01:31   out the window and pulls himself back up [TS]

01:01:33   on the gantry he's walking through that [TS]

01:01:34   hallway and Vader pops out in one of one [TS]

01:01:37   is in what is one of the generally most [TS]

01:01:39   startling i think the most like it's [TS]

01:01:42   just abrupt right at boomers age it [TS]

01:01:44   exactly [TS]

01:01:45   there's not a lot of them but that was [TS]

01:01:46   really effective and when Vader comes [TS]

01:01:48   out he's hammering him right if two [TS]

01:01:50   hands watch that scene not only just us [TS]

01:01:52   he's just like beating the crap out of [TS]

01:01:54   me is constantly pushing Luke back he's [TS]

01:01:57   decided this is over i am finishing this [TS]

01:01:59   guy [TS]

01:02:00   yeah and hit any so much bigger than him [TS]

01:02:01   like physical size and he's just [TS]

01:02:03   crushing him from above [TS]

01:02:05   yes and is trying to like trying to like [TS]

01:02:07   dodge retrying uses a small he's got a [TS]

01:02:09   little agility or whatever and you see [TS]

01:02:10   that scene where he's like ducking on [TS]

01:02:12   hitting the railing and he [TS]

01:02:13   step but he realizes you know crap i am [TS]

01:02:16   running out of space [TS]

01:02:17   I'm running out of energy i've already [TS]

01:02:19   like you know I'm all beaten up torn up [TS]

01:02:21   and everything you know I'm running on [TS]

01:02:23   empty and then we get the hand this [TS]

01:02:26   yeah thats because he has Vader in the [TS]

01:02:28   shoulder and there's like all I'm having [TS]

01:02:30   none of that your your hands coming off [TS]

01:02:31   son Oh silly [TS]

01:02:33   yeah this is the futility of standing up [TS]

01:02:35   to the Empire this is what you get when [TS]

01:02:37   you think that you can play with the big [TS]

01:02:38   boys [TS]

01:02:39   he's already running to the end of the [TS]

01:02:40   spindly little thing hanging over the [TS]

01:02:42   gas collection chambers or whatever and [TS]

01:02:44   then he gets nicked my shoulder and he's [TS]

01:02:45   like I respected that hand thats a [TS]

01:02:47   bird's going off middle and then we have [TS]

01:02:49   the sweetener right yeah [TS]

01:02:51   oh I actually maybe two feet for that d [TS]

01:02:54   so he's got him on the floor [TS]

01:02:55   Lucas but this point basically on the [TS]

01:02:57   ground and Vader's is you know could [TS]

01:02:59   kill him if he wanted to but Vader's [TS]

01:03:00   goal is not to kill him this point [TS]

01:03:01   there's little discernible be destroyed [TS]

01:03:03   like obi-wan anything happen to the [TS]

01:03:05   red-hot runoff it's not actually hot [TS]

01:03:07   okay fine [TS]

01:03:08   vicetone yellow me but the the red light [TS]

01:03:10   the red lightsaber he's bringing that up [TS]

01:03:12   to and Luke's face is sweating the [TS]

01:03:13   lightsabers right by Luke's face and [TS]

01:03:15   Lucas edging away [TS]

01:03:16   this seemed terrified my son the first [TS]

01:03:18   time he saw it because he's like like [TS]

01:03:20   when you're little you know when you're [TS]

01:03:21   at that age people have young kids [TS]

01:03:23   they're too young to hide their emotions [TS]

01:03:25   when they're watching a movie at all [TS]

01:03:27   we are old enough to see the movie like [TS]

01:03:29   it was like for four-and-a-half when he [TS]

01:03:30   first saw this but there but they are [TS]

01:03:32   their little bodies are at the whim of [TS]

01:03:34   their emotions and yeah he was so [TS]

01:03:36   terrified for Luke in this moment [TS]

01:03:38   because he understood lightsabers bad [TS]

01:03:40   cut you hurt you kill you and it's right [TS]

01:03:42   near his face and it's getting closer [TS]

01:03:43   and like as a scary scene it made him [TS]

01:03:46   terrified and I remember being [TS]

01:03:47   frightened by what is your frightened [TS]

01:03:48   for your hero the white David Wright by [TS]

01:03:50   his face you know why doesn't why [TS]

01:03:52   doesn't Vader kill him he could kill [TS]

01:03:53   whatever the the ability of this entire [TS]

01:03:55   movie in part to terrify small children [TS]

01:03:58   is that is what one of the things that [TS]

01:04:00   make smiley successful [TS]

01:04:02   yeah and every child on his arm yeah and [TS]

01:04:04   and surprisingly that was not it i don't [TS]

01:04:07   remember probably music it and didn't [TS]

01:04:08   really bother my children at all because [TS]

01:04:09   that was kinda like the release of the [TS]

01:04:11   tension that was actually like all like [TS]

01:04:13   the white is over it out if I are white [TS]

01:04:16   and they start having this talkie part [TS]

01:04:17   which kids a four-year-old and that you [TS]

01:04:19   understand but this movie is is is [TS]

01:04:21   frightening in terms like peril and [TS]

01:04:23   emotional like you know it's it's [TS]

01:04:26   emotionally wrenching [TS]

01:04:27   and there's peril people you care about [TS]

01:04:29   not so much like a monster is going to [TS]

01:04:31   get me kind of scary [TS]

01:04:32   well and and the scene is interesting [TS]

01:04:34   right because and when we hit the [TS]

01:04:36   dialogue part a we have the fulfillment [TS]

01:04:38   of that we realize that Vader despite [TS]

01:04:40   having someone above him is kind of [TS]

01:04:42   conniving still right and he has some [TS]

01:04:44   ulterior motives and agenda and he wants [TS]

01:04:48   to go he wants he wants to be the guy in [TS]

01:04:50   charge right he wants to move up in the [TS]

01:04:51   world and so we get that attempt for him [TS]

01:04:53   to persuade Luke and bring him over and [TS]

01:04:56   you know what he thinks is going to do [TS]

01:04:58   it right is like you know Lucas convince [TS]

01:05:01   this guy killed my father [TS]

01:05:02   no matter what I'm not you know I'm not [TS]

01:05:05   gonna listen to him I hate this guy and [TS]

01:05:07   then we have the the reveal and what I [TS]

01:05:09   always found fascinating later on was [TS]

01:05:12   that how little no one knew you know [TS]

01:05:16   what the scene was like three people [TS]

01:05:18   like I think mark hamill james earl [TS]

01:05:20   jones George Lucas pretty much it [TS]

01:05:23   and even David Prowse who's in the suit [TS]

01:05:25   their think Caroline's out [TS]

01:05:28   well he's and in fact what he says is no [TS]

01:05:30   obi-wan killed your father [TS]

01:05:32   yeah like that was the fair with the [TS]

01:05:33   fake out which makes no sense in the [TS]

01:05:35   context of the rest of the script had to [TS]

01:05:36   read it [TS]

01:05:37   no although I always think it would be [TS]

01:05:39   it would be a great it sounds so [TS]

01:05:42   deceptive right in some ways like you [TS]

01:05:44   could see Vader like throwing that in [TS]

01:05:46   there is that seed of doubt in the sense [TS]

01:05:48   the same census you know well we will [TS]

01:05:50   the same sense as you know and again [TS]

01:05:51   coming from the perspective of we all [TS]

01:05:53   know later is his father but you know [TS]

01:05:55   the first time you see this and and [TS]

01:05:56   Lucas was talking about this a little [TS]

01:05:58   bit in the interview i watch with him [TS]

01:05:59   we're talking about well it you know [TS]

01:06:00   it's potentially ambiguous do you trust [TS]

01:06:02   Darth Vader when he tells you I'm your [TS]

01:06:04   father right or is he just like screwing [TS]

01:06:07   with you what one little nice touch on [TS]

01:06:09   the scene that people who haven't seen [TS]

01:06:12   it 80 million points and 20 million [TS]

01:06:13   times not notices that he knows [TS]

01:06:15   everybody does a thing [TS]

01:06:16   join me and we can rule the galaxy as [TS]

01:06:17   father and son and makes that fist and [TS]

01:06:19   you've seen that a lot of the screen [TS]

01:06:20   shots were made to get the Cape flowing [TS]

01:06:21   the fist making the Foley artist puts a [TS]

01:06:24   fist of fists of leather crunching noise [TS]

01:06:27   when he made a fast and you're settled [TS]

01:06:29   their tiny piece of Foley he's yelling [TS]

01:06:31   the wind is howling father-and-son [TS]

01:06:33   crunch [TS]

01:06:33   not yet realize your importance only [TS]

01:06:39   begun to discover your power [TS]

01:06:41   join me and I will complete your [TS]

01:06:44   training with our combined strength we [TS]

01:06:48   can end this destructive conflict and [TS]

01:06:52   bring order to the galaxy [TS]

01:06:54   I'll never join you if you only knew the [TS]

01:06:57   power of the dark side will be one never [TS]

01:07:02   told you what happened to your father he [TS]

01:07:05   told me [TS]

01:07:09   he told me you're guilting me i am the [TS]

01:07:14   father [TS]

01:07:26   search your feelings you know to be true [TS]

01:07:38   you can destroy the Emperor ps4 seeing [TS]

01:07:44   it is your destiny [TS]

01:07:47   join me and together we can rule the [TS]

01:07:51   galaxy as father and son [TS]

01:07:54   yeah that's that's quality craftsmanship [TS]

01:07:56   underwear scrunchie gloves and and Luke [TS]

01:07:58   does have is marc 'animal house is [TS]

01:08:00   unfortunate [TS]

01:08:01   oh thats all your group survival [TS]

01:08:04   actually like that performance his [TS]

01:08:05   performance where he's like yelling I [TS]

01:08:07   think they run they run one of the best [TS]

01:08:09   performances at a mark hamill that you [TS]

01:08:11   could possibly do it is cut to the bone [TS]

01:08:13   there right yeah and that's raw and it's [TS]

01:08:16   over-the-top but you know what it works [TS]

01:08:18   it does work even if i make fun of it I [TS]

01:08:20   do like it [TS]

01:08:21   i I don't I don't think it's even worth [TS]

01:08:23   making fun of because i think it's a [TS]

01:08:24   good performance period bottom line he's [TS]

01:08:26   totally spent he's a little whiny kid [TS]

01:08:28   didn't know what he was getting into [TS]

01:08:29   screwed up didn't follow the instructor [TS]

01:08:31   gotta hand cut off found out this evil [TS]

01:08:33   guy's father he's he's just his there's [TS]

01:08:35   nothing left in him he's basically [TS]

01:08:37   reverting to infancy with this crying [TS]

01:08:39   and wailing and and it works it works [TS]

01:08:41   and yet he draws on something inside of [TS]

01:08:44   himself to basically say I'm not gonna [TS]

01:08:46   I'm not going to give you and give you [TS]

01:08:47   what you want which is a great scene [TS]

01:08:49   that's what makes him a hero in this [TS]

01:08:50   movie despite screwing up almost [TS]

01:08:52   everything and getting his butt kicked [TS]

01:08:53   his heroic in the end he holds to his [TS]

01:08:56   code right which is no I'm not I'm not [TS]

01:08:58   falling to the dark side i'm gonna I'd [TS]

01:09:00   rather die he kills himself basically [TS]

01:09:02   I'd rather die he doesn't know he's [TS]

01:09:04   going to live here yeah it was down as [TS]

01:09:06   far as you see that the first time you [TS]

01:09:08   assume Luke is going off to bad places [TS]

01:09:11   and and you look at the expression on [TS]

01:09:12   his face he's committing suicide in the [TS]

01:09:14   end they get in the radio drama version [TS]

01:09:16   he did this man obviously made much more [TS]

01:09:18   explicit but I you know I love I do love [TS]

01:09:19   some of the wines in that are in the [TS]

01:09:21   radio drama for this you know where he [TS]

01:09:23   basically you know you get the idea like [TS]

01:09:24   hey I'd rather die and you know Vader's [TS]

01:09:28   started taunting him for that and you [TS]

01:09:30   know it has a couple wines like hey I [TS]

01:09:31   won't be the first person to die to keep [TS]

01:09:33   you from winning and and then he's just [TS]

01:09:35   like BAM I'm gone you know and i think [TS]

01:09:37   that that's and we could we could [TS]

01:09:39   discuss the evilness of the special [TS]

01:09:41   edition of the adding these like uh you [TS]

01:09:44   know whatever but i think i think the [TS]

01:09:45   originals is fine as it is forgotten [TS]

01:09:47   about that thank you for reminding sorry [TS]

01:09:49   John block that out successfully been [TS]

01:09:51   out [TS]

01:09:52   that's great i mean yeah i mean that's [TS]

01:09:53   and I think it's perfectly fine in in in [TS]

01:09:57   the original even you know that maybe [TS]

01:09:59   one of the few places that special [TS]

01:10:01   effect falls down is the following [TS]

01:10:02   effect but I it doesn't even bother me [TS]

01:10:03   really it's you know it's because you're [TS]

01:10:05   caught up and in so much more than just [TS]

01:10:07   a technicality that lowering musical [TS]

01:10:09   scale as he falls [TS]

01:10:11   that's the magician distracting you from [TS]

01:10:12   the fact that it's not a great Matt and [TS]

01:10:14   he's kind of you know I always had the [TS]

01:10:16   laugh at the fact that you get sucked [TS]

01:10:17   into that tube right he's he's Bob's [TS]

01:10:19   sliding down the thing he slowed himself [TS]

01:10:20   down somehow ends up over via which have [TS]

01:10:23   tour is at the low point right at the [TS]

01:10:25   bottom of the weathervane yeah that it's [TS]

01:10:27   a trap though it's a trap door [TS]

01:10:29   what why is it a trapdoor in a place [TS]

01:10:31   that arguably no one ever knows why [TS]

01:10:32   doesn't take the next one is access port [TS]

01:10:34   that [TS]

01:10:34   yeah it is scary it is extremely scary [TS]

01:10:38   and then it's their litterers that the [TS]

01:10:39   garbage or collects down there and when [TS]

01:10:41   there's a certain weight of garbage it [TS]

01:10:43   opens up and it dumps out that's i'm [TS]

01:10:45   sure that's the answer [TS]

01:10:46   so it so I want to call it a Lando and [TS]

01:10:48   also here's a barber a lady here me blah [TS]

01:10:51   blah [TS]

01:10:51   this is another reason i think they were [TS]

01:10:53   establishing this enforcement going on [TS]

01:10:54   with late because otherwise it's out of [TS]

01:10:56   the blue that the hot gases that Luke [TS]

01:10:58   and communicate with layout through the [TS]

01:10:59   forest yeah that's why I think that look [TS]

01:11:01   is not give you the exact time stamp [TS]

01:11:02   that look Jason you looking up [TS]

01:11:03   afterwards haha alright thank you but so [TS]

01:11:05   she comes back over the think this has [TS]

01:11:07   been pointed out by many stand-up [TS]

01:11:08   comedians but it is it is true when you [TS]

01:11:10   think about it's kind of strange at the [TS]

01:11:12   point where uh Han and Leia I don't know [TS]

01:11:15   if it's the same let me just check out [TS]

01:11:16   the photo shared some point later in the [TS]

01:11:18   way you know it's Lando's flying the [TS]

01:11:19   ship right with ha yes i think that was [TS]

01:11:21   treating chewy and is also possibly find [TS]

01:11:23   depending on you know that Lando and [TS]

01:11:25   chew here in the shipwright and Lando is [TS]

01:11:27   dressed on is closed now everyone is [TS]

01:11:29   welcome at the end of the set yes [TS]

01:11:30   everyone is pointed this out and it's [TS]

01:11:32   like well dizzy Stefan's life is cause I [TS]

01:11:34   finally thought of a reasonable [TS]

01:11:35   explanation for why our wardrobe right [TS]

01:11:38   nobody's will be worn out of Cloud City [TS]

01:11:40   he was wearing his Cloud City outfit [TS]

01:11:41   when they made their escape and related [TS]

01:11:43   things got more clothes [TS]

01:11:44   he's got the hand that's that's the [TS]

01:11:47   settler to smuggler uniform like they [TS]

01:11:49   are smugglers they kinda like how [TS]

01:11:51   Cowboys were like the cowboy outfit [TS]

01:11:53   would like the best in the sheriff's [TS]

01:11:54   where a particular outfit and old [TS]

01:11:55   westerns where were your a space [TS]

01:11:56   smuggler this is what you were [TS]

01:11:58   yeah it's a small it's a smuggler outfit [TS]

01:12:00   it's worse than that it's actually they [TS]

01:12:03   are Lando's cloves [TS]

01:12:05   he lost them when he lost already got [TS]

01:12:07   that is really i get my shirt back in [TS]

01:12:09   with my closet [TS]

01:12:11   well I i just wanted to say you know we [TS]

01:12:13   were briefly alluded to the way here [TS]

01:12:14   missing i love that scene if only you [TS]

01:12:16   know for the music for the like there's [TS]

01:12:18   a silence seemed most likely get laid [TS]

01:12:20   muttering and then where we got Luke [TS]

01:12:22   muttering we get the music we get the [TS]

01:12:24   cut to Leia and they're flying out it's [TS]

01:12:26   a gorgeous scene right that all the [TS]

01:12:28   filming in that cloud city sequence is [TS]

01:12:30   awesome right and layers you know we [TS]

01:12:32   gotta go back and was like are you are [TS]

01:12:34   you freaking crazy do you know how much [TS]

01:12:36   it took us to get out of there and to [TS]

01:12:38   reduce your give him groaning all right [TS]

01:12:39   then you're like all right go back and [TS]

01:12:41   then you know we get that flip around [TS]

01:12:43   the clue the clouds and everything i [TS]

01:12:45   love how they pick up they have to go up [TS]

01:12:47   and on the roof and pick him up [TS]

01:12:49   yeah it's awesome right i love that I [TS]

01:12:51   love that he's you know they set up this [TS]

01:12:53   guy right and like Luke's never seen [TS]

01:12:55   this guy doesn't know him from Adam but [TS]

01:12:56   it's another help with the park and I [TS]

01:12:58   guess is better than hanging out here [TS]

01:12:59   yeah a lot of choices their release back [TS]

01:13:02   in half subconscious territory that we [TS]

01:13:05   get in the beginning of off yet again [TS]

01:13:06   Lucas half [TS]

01:13:08   yeah and then we get a we get the cut [TS]

01:13:10   back and forth which is that fast [TS]

01:13:12   dissolve between luke and vader as well [TS]

01:13:14   that's yet anyway he's communicating [TS]

01:13:16   with Vader this money saved that he's [TS]

01:13:18   communicating with the forest with Vader [TS]

01:13:19   he's going father-son blah blah you know [TS]

01:13:21   look basically hangs up on telepathy CBS [TS]

01:13:24   and converts to also get anything about [TS]

01:13:26   Ben why didn't you tell me to tell hangs [TS]

01:13:28   up on Vader mentally yes i like i love [TS]

01:13:30   that i mean i like that that scene I [TS]

01:13:33   just where he's just like so probably [TS]

01:13:34   sitting in the cockpit you know like [TS]

01:13:35   looking up there and it's just like [TS]

01:13:36   totally shell-shocked is not done well [TS]

01:13:40   it's a great moment in 44 camel and you [TS]

01:13:43   know it to be like holy crap this is all [TS]

01:13:45   coming crashing down right meanwhile we [TS]

01:13:47   have the whole problem of them trying to [TS]

01:13:49   once again get away and they're about to [TS]

01:13:51   be totally screwed and of course who [TS]

01:13:53   comes and saves the day that our team no [TS]

01:13:56   one would listen to see the videos like [TS]

01:13:57   I don't care what the city central [TS]

01:13:58   computer told you fix my leg what are [TS]

01:14:00   you talking about you don't know how to [TS]

01:14:02   fix the hyperdrive honey just go [TS]

01:14:04   sometimes it onto it [TS]

01:14:05   yeah anybody little switch and finally [TS]

01:14:07   that affect they've been withholding for [TS]

01:14:09   you yeah I retire move ahead get it [TS]

01:14:11   finally and then you get that shot right [TS]

01:14:13   the PIAT shot Peter Vader realize why [TS]

01:14:16   during why [TS]

01:14:17   me and him like looking like oh no oh no [TS]

01:14:20   i just i was two weeks from retirement [TS]

01:14:22   and then Peter turns around and you're [TS]

01:14:25   like walks inside the killer and my [TS]

01:14:27   walks by [TS]

01:14:28   that's it that's a great great moment [TS]

01:14:30   and the reason the reason he walks by is [TS]

01:14:32   because that'sthat's Vader's character [TS]

01:14:33   seen invader is legitimately upset that [TS]

01:14:35   he couldn't turn his son Dennis any [TS]

01:14:36   stops that he just can't even bring [TS]

01:14:38   himself to kill support everybody I mean [TS]

01:14:40   any any kind of realizes it's not [TS]

01:14:41   entitled to all that really that it's [TS]

01:14:43   not really their fault is like what is [TS]

01:14:45   it going to do now obviously you know [TS]

01:14:47   he's he's upset that he that he lost the [TS]

01:14:49   thing he's a sober breath that he can't [TS]

01:14:51   he can't bring himself [TS]

01:14:52   excuse me everythings killing [TS]

01:14:54   subordinates when they don't do well and [TS]

01:14:57   Pete gets to live in being returned to [TS]

01:14:58   the Jedi it brings the US to the most [TS]

01:15:00   important part of the movie which is [TS]

01:15:02   when Luke gets his nifty prosthetic hand [TS]

01:15:04   from another friendly dr. droid the same [TS]

01:15:10   maybe the same one it be because it's [TS]

01:15:13   good to see you again sir when we get [TS]

01:15:15   that nice you know we get that nice [TS]

01:15:17   moment where Lando's clearly you know [TS]

01:15:19   Lando is going to try to atone [TS]

01:15:21   everyone's kind of hopeful when we [TS]

01:15:24   realize hey we're going back to Tatooine [TS]

01:15:26   yeah meet with around everyone tattoo [TS]

01:15:29   him and what do they show you in the [TS]

01:15:30   background of that scene that story [TS]

01:15:31   before i think is the first time in [TS]

01:15:33   these movies a gigantic spiral galaxy we [TS]

01:15:35   have again widening the scope of saying [TS]

01:15:37   this is not just about a planet in a [TS]

01:15:39   place this scope of this story is like a [TS]

01:15:41   whole galaxy and to give you a big [TS]

01:15:43   picture [TS]

01:15:46   [Music] [TS]

01:16:09   yeah I think that's a I think that's [TS]

01:16:11   just actually bad sciences is I think [TS]

01:16:13   they wanted to cool backdrop and so [TS]

01:16:15   they've got a they've got a spiral [TS]

01:16:18   galaxies like where are they at this [TS]

01:16:19   point if they can see this file guys I [TS]

01:16:21   know the holdall traveling whatever [TS]

01:16:23   that's science but it's you to make any [TS]

01:16:25   sense but it's beautiful it is really [TS]

01:16:28   musical cue beautiful music that comes [TS]

01:16:33   in you you know / / that finale which [TS]

01:16:35   jason will no doubt overlay over this [TS]

01:16:37   conversation of course and because it [TS]

01:16:40   was a general conversation and the fact [TS]

01:16:42   that again what a-what do we get out of [TS]

01:16:45   this movie in the end I can see why [TS]

01:16:47   people might have initial reaction to it [TS]

01:16:48   might have been like what what what [TS]

01:16:51   what's going on it's like you know it's [TS]

01:16:52   the middle part and what we got is that [TS]

01:16:55   our heroes escaped except for han Solo [TS]

01:16:58   oh and and didn't die horribly but [TS]

01:17:01   thatthat's the resolution right there is [TS]

01:17:02   no real resolution it is a to be [TS]

01:17:04   continued kind of moment I have to laugh [TS]

01:17:06   at my cousin Jennie who was it was a [TS]

01:17:08   teenager at that when it came out and I [TS]

01:17:11   remember her telling these stories later [TS]

01:17:12   on because she's like you know 14 or 15 [TS]

01:17:14   or something and she's like I thought I [TS]

01:17:16   would die before returning the jelly i [TS]

01:17:18   was worried i would literally just [TS]

01:17:19   dropped dead so yeah before turn the [TS]

01:17:21   chest i came out i would never know what [TS]

01:17:23   happened because they're just the ship's [TS]

01:17:26   all fly off and its new and comes up and [TS]

01:17:29   and you know c-3po and r2 are all [TS]

01:17:31   polished up and then and it was looking [TS]

01:17:33   laying in New Hope top style clothes [TS]

01:17:35   layers back into kind of a new hope ish [TS]

01:17:36   little outfit Luke has like a have it [TS]

01:17:38   looks a little bit like is for from New [TS]

01:17:40   Hope like but we we look at all the [TS]

01:17:42   characters and it's not as if they have [TS]

01:17:44   tread water this thing every single [TS]

01:17:45   person has had an arc with the exception [TS]

01:17:47   of the droids probably because they're [TS]

01:17:48   just always droids we've enjoyed have [TS]

01:17:50   had an arc well they've had they had an [TS]

01:17:52   adventure story in this c-3po had a [TS]

01:17:54   disassembly and reassembly our parties [TS]

01:17:57   are to be eaten by a slug [TS]

01:18:01   yeah well I benefit that they grow as [TS]

01:18:03   characters but like Lucas certainly been [TS]

01:18:04   through a lot as a changed person Han [TS]

01:18:06   and Leia's relationship was established [TS]

01:18:08   and everything else and oh you know [TS]

01:18:09   change from his life of crime and left [TS]

01:18:11   this thing has become part of the [TS]

01:18:12   rebellion and Han has ended badly for [TS]

01:18:15   him and a frozen block on slave one [TS]

01:18:17   going towards a tattoo [TS]

01:18:18   put the people who complained of this [TS]

01:18:20   movie like doesn't have an ending or [TS]

01:18:22   whatever this this weakness of middle [TS]

01:18:25   chapters of like it can't resolve the [TS]

01:18:27   conflict because there's gonna be a [TS]

01:18:28   third he can't it can't end with them [TS]

01:18:30   winning any came with him decisively [TS]

01:18:32   losing the only thing you can do is take [TS]

01:18:35   the characters for to a very different [TS]

01:18:37   place where they were at the beginning [TS]

01:18:39   the movie and I think this movie does [TS]

01:18:40   that even more so than the other boys [TS]

01:18:42   because makeup on at the beginning of a [TS]

01:18:43   new hope and hot the end they're much [TS]

01:18:45   less different than hot at the beginning [TS]

01:18:47   of this movie and on the end [TS]

01:18:48   well it's the subtle it's a subtle pivot [TS]

01:18:51   that is what you get and instead of a [TS]

01:18:53   big resolution right so the resolution [TS]

01:18:55   here is they've managed to get away and [TS]

01:18:58   as we know especially you know but you [TS]

01:19:01   can feel it here and then you see it in [TS]

01:19:02   the third movie is they're about to go [TS]

01:19:04   on the offensive right they've managed [TS]

01:19:06   to survive a lot of this bad stuff and [TS]

01:19:09   and and and some of them have fallen but [TS]

01:19:12   they're turning it around and now [TS]

01:19:14   they've got a rendezvous point on [TS]

01:19:15   Tatooine they're gonna go get on back [TS]

01:19:17   there going to go on the offensive and [TS]

01:19:19   and that's the that's what the end is [TS]

01:19:22   right and that's it that's it just leave [TS]

01:19:24   a little strange after all the drama [TS]

01:19:25   that they're sort of like wearing nice [TS]

01:19:26   clothes and smiling as they fly off but [TS]

01:19:29   yeah thatthat's that tone is a little [TS]

01:19:31   strange its preparation but it but [TS]

01:19:33   that's what's happening is they're big [TS]

01:19:34   turn the corner look at the shape of a [TS]

01:19:37   and i'll go back to the shape of this [TS]

01:19:39   movie which I think negatively is is as [TS]

01:19:41   John saying in the middle chapter but [TS]

01:19:43   like again what i was saying look look [TS]

01:19:45   at the downward descent this entire [TS]

01:19:47   movie takes right it everything goes [TS]

01:19:50   down everything get worse and worse and [TS]

01:19:52   worse until about you know that that [TS]

01:19:54   last scene we have that sort of you know [TS]

01:19:56   climactic I am your father scene and and [TS]

01:20:00   then like that's really it like we have [TS]

01:20:02   a rock-bottom Luke is literally as low [TS]

01:20:04   as he can go right with a falling all [TS]

01:20:06   the way to the center of best men and [TS]

01:20:08   and then we get that little bit of an [TS]

01:20:10   upswing just enough to stabilize sort of [TS]

01:20:13   where we are and say alright that was [TS]

01:20:15   sort of our day newmont let's turn this [TS]

01:20:18   around as you're saying go on the [TS]

01:20:19   offensive and and bring everything home [TS]

01:20:22   and I think that to me what makes this [TS]

01:20:25   movie so compelling is watching you know [TS]

01:20:29   watching that dissent and seeing all [TS]

01:20:32   all the terrible things and what makes [TS]

01:20:33   it so fascinating and great as an [TS]

01:20:35   adventure movie is they don't all just [TS]

01:20:37   go like well crap might as well keep [TS]

01:20:40   haha they're starting the entire way not [TS]

01:20:43   only the fighting but they decide to [TS]

01:20:45   turn around and they and they show the [TS]

01:20:47   and they show the rebel fleet at the end [TS]

01:20:49   they say look here [TS]

01:20:50   the rebels have reorganized here's their [TS]

01:20:52   fleet when they zoom out to them in the [TS]

01:20:53   window is just not a great man either [TS]

01:20:54   zoom out and they show these are our [TS]

01:20:56   heroes in the mirror and look they're [TS]

01:20:58   part of a bigger thing there's an x-wing [TS]

01:20:59   remember x-wings yeah they're still here [TS]

01:21:01   too and there's the whole fleet and they [TS]

01:21:02   do the wipe to the d star wars music the [TS]

01:21:06   happy star wars music that's you know [TS]

01:21:08   director of encouragement etre don't [TS]

01:21:10   like that's the ending credits music [TS]

01:21:12   it's not like overall sad music they [TS]

01:21:14   have the overall sad music when they're [TS]

01:21:15   flying away and we said about how we [TS]

01:21:17   don't know it's gonna turn out [TS]

01:21:18   cut to the happy star wars music it's [TS]

01:21:19   not like it's like the fight continues [TS]

01:21:21   there you know it's upbeat we hit the [TS]

01:21:24   upbeat note at the end it was going it's [TS]

01:21:26   going back to what i was saying about [TS]

01:21:28   this being you know about model laughter [TS]

01:21:30   cereals and this being the center [TS]

01:21:31   section of the serial where they're the [TS]

01:21:34   they're the sort of individual stories [TS]

01:21:36   where things keep on getting worse and [TS]

01:21:37   keep on getting worse and keep on [TS]

01:21:38   getting worse and oh here's your here's [TS]

01:21:41   your major hint things are going to get [TS]

01:21:43   very very different very very fast [TS]

01:21:46   stay tuned until next time which turned [TS]

01:21:48   out to be four years later I thinks 3313 [TS]

01:21:52   it felt what I felt like for well no [TS]

01:21:54   it'sit's 7788 III and it felt like 900 [TS]

01:21:57   is what have no my god I felt like a [TS]

01:22:00   long long time I oh yeah and I i wish i [TS]

01:22:04   could claim which they claim that i [TS]

01:22:05   remembered but I was this movie came out [TS]

01:22:07   a month after I was born [TS]

01:22:09   Wow almost had the way and was but a wee [TS]

01:22:12   child and I was but a wee nothing [TS]

01:22:15   yeah but oh yeah I don't like addendum i [TS]

01:22:18   know we we talked about it last time but [TS]

01:22:20   john williams once again turning in not [TS]

01:22:23   only building on the themes that he [TS]

01:22:25   established in a new hope [TS]

01:22:26   but integrating several new themes John [TS]

01:22:28   mentioned the interior March being [TS]

01:22:30   absolutely most iconic of them but I [TS]

01:22:32   think also worth mentioning Yoda's theme [TS]

01:22:35   which is an excellent sweet that gets [TS]

01:22:37   used a lot here and and to even better [TS]

01:22:39   effect in my mind in in Jedi which will [TS]

01:22:41   will talk about when we come back we get [TS]

01:22:43   to that but also great [TS]

01:22:45   individual standalone sweets like the [TS]

01:22:48   asteroid field are feels great the [TS]

01:22:50   asteroid field is great that queue at [TS]

01:22:52   the end we were just talking about is [TS]

01:22:53   fantastic [TS]

01:22:54   a lot of have a cloud city and [TS]

01:22:56   especially i love I oh is it as a [TS]

01:22:58   teenager I always loved the music for [TS]

01:23:02   when they're getting escaping Cloud City [TS]

01:23:03   it's really tense [TS]

01:23:05   it's done really really well and and [TS]

01:23:07   Williams you know he's he's obviously [TS]

01:23:10   uses this this leitmotif style where he [TS]

01:23:13   draws in these themes and so even though [TS]

01:23:14   he's got these sweets where he does like [TS]

01:23:16   you notice the material March whatever [TS]

01:23:17   strains of those show up in all the [TS]

01:23:20   other pieces whenever they appear on the [TS]

01:23:22   screen and I think that's part of what [TS]

01:23:24   makes his score so indelible and so you [TS]

01:23:27   know so much fabric of these movies is [TS]

01:23:29   it really is tied to not just what's [TS]

01:23:32   happening but the characters in the [TS]

01:23:33   motivations and the emotions that are [TS]

01:23:34   sort of going on and it's just it's i [TS]

01:23:38   think one of my favorite scores to [TS]

01:23:40   listen to from beginning to end [TS]

01:23:43   much more so than I think he's either [TS]

01:23:45   the other movies which I which I enjoy [TS]

01:23:47   listening to put it I think work better [TS]

01:23:49   you know I i can sit and listen to [TS]

01:23:50   individual tracks from those Empire you [TS]

01:23:52   started off in the beginning the end the [TS]

01:23:53   whole music tells the story of them of [TS]

01:23:57   the of the movie itself without even [TS]

01:23:59   needing you know the dialogue and it's [TS]

01:24:01   it's so evocative and i think it's it's [TS]

01:24:03   probably the best work to my mind that [TS]

01:24:05   he's ever done and one of my son play [TS]

01:24:07   Star Wars like when he's playing the [TS]

01:24:09   ships and he doesn't know anyone's [TS]

01:24:10   watching and these and he's coming [TS]

01:24:12   something to himself he doesn't call me [TS]

01:24:13   the star wars-themed he has didn't care [TS]

01:24:15   much for the good guys and the bad guys [TS]

01:24:16   that is the star wars song as far as his [TS]

01:24:18   concern [TS]

01:24:19   yeah that's fantastic [TS]

01:24:22   alright we we've reached the end I so [TS]

01:24:25   did everybody like this movie [TS]

01:24:27   well I really thought they could have [TS]

01:24:29   done better maybe the third one all sort [TS]

01:24:31   of wrap things up and you know be more [TS]

01:24:33   satisfying maybe Rand and you both said [TS]

01:24:35   this is your number one all-time movie [TS]

01:24:36   all genre all everything [TS]

01:24:38   this is actually my favorite movie of [TS]

01:24:39   all time yes Frances this is my number [TS]

01:24:41   one while it is not my number one [TS]

01:24:44   allmovie all time but I can't pick a [TS]

01:24:46   number on allmovie all time it's like a [TS]

01:24:47   three-way tie so this is akin this is a [TS]

01:24:49   contender if I had to pick one it would [TS]

01:24:52   be this one followed by lawrence of [TS]

01:24:53   arabia well what about Jason use did not [TS]

01:24:56   seem to have it as and has highest [TS]

01:24:58   I'm so where would you place it on your [TS]

01:24:59   all-time obviously best Star Wars movie [TS]

01:25:02   it's the best Star Wars movie it would [TS]

01:25:04   probably be in my top ten I'm not even [TS]

01:25:07   beyond that are five top-five uh we [TS]

01:25:13   should do a movie of just everyone's top [TS]

01:25:14   five all-time yeah yeah that would be [TS]

01:25:16   that would be great because I i would [TS]

01:25:17   have to construct a list i'm pretty sure [TS]

01:25:19   i'd put in my top that's hard i can get [TS]

01:25:21   i get to 200 cc because ok i had to [TS]

01:25:24   construct a five a while back [TS]

01:25:26   that's the only reason why i have a list [TS]

01:25:28   to begin with yeah like Raiders of the [TS]

01:25:31   Lost Ark I like that raiders of the lost [TS]

01:25:33   ark is myself or wow ok we don't want [TS]

01:25:36   spoilers we don't want to spoil that [TS]

01:25:37   we've got once again with deep very deep [TS]

01:25:39   into a podcast we've got an idea for [TS]

01:25:41   another podcast will just keep going [TS]

01:25:42   well just go until the break of dawn in [TS]

01:25:45   the East Coast and restarting Jedi know [TS]

01:25:47   and sister all right into it [TS]

01:25:49   alright I thank you all for spending so [TS]

01:25:52   much time talking about this movie which [TS]

01:25:54   is a great movie and I'm glad that end [TS]

01:25:56   and it's personal favorites of of two of [TS]

01:25:58   you which is which is a extra special [TS]

01:26:01   and we'll have to do this again with [TS]

01:26:04   return of the jedi once we've all [TS]

01:26:05   recovered but until then I want to thank [TS]

01:26:09   everybody for listening to this special [TS]

01:26:10   multi-part extravaganza of the [TS]

01:26:13   incomparable and in case you've [TS]

01:26:15   forgotten the voices you were listening [TS]

01:26:17   to i will thank them now Dan more'n [TS]

01:26:20   thank you for sharing your welcome and i [TS]

01:26:22   can't believe i forgot to mention low [TS]

01:26:24   but although bond but that's it up with [TS]

01:26:28   the fungus and ok John siracusa thank [TS]

01:26:31   you for sharing as well I go for another [TS]

01:26:33   three hours Jason I i know that his [TS]

01:26:37   tireless is a marathon man serenity [TS]

01:26:39   called well thank you as well for being [TS]

01:26:42   here and sharing your perspective on [TS]

01:26:43   this one [TS]

01:26:43   thank you Jason maybe force be with you [TS]

01:26:45   uh-huh thank you always for the [TS]

01:26:48   uncomfortable i'm jason smell thanks to [TS]

01:26:50   everybody again for listening [TS]

01:26:51   we'll see you next time [TS]

01:26:53   [Music] [TS]

01:27:00   and remember per pupil all-out forgot [TS]