The Incomparable

00:00:07 ◼   ► the Intolerable podcast number 71 [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► December 2011 [TS]

00:00:14 ◼   ► welcome back to the incomparable podcast [TS]

00:00:18 ◼   ► I'm your host Jason smell it is the [TS]

00:00:21 ◼   ► holiday season as we record this in [TS]

00:00:24 ◼   ► december and so we're trying to be a [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► little seasonal that's why our topic [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► today is holiday movies that we love not [TS]

00:00:33 ◼   ► that we hate that we love [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► that's what John syracuse isn't here [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► because this is all about love not hate [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► a love it's the season for love it love [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► conquers all [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► everything is about happiness and [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► goodness and I'm sure none of us will [TS]

00:00:49 ◼   ► ever disagree with anybody else's [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► comments [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► okay that's probably at acting too [TS]

00:00:54 ◼   ► asking too much [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► I agree with you so to discuss the [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► holiday movies that we love [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► let's play debert to spread the love i [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► would like to introduce my guess my many [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► many guests who are going to share the [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► love and spread the holiday holiday joy [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► first off Steve Lutz hi Steve a Merry [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► Christmas you wonderful drafty old barn [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► also joining me serenity Caldwell hello [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► hello dayson you don't have a wacky zany [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► holiday of expression to share my god [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► did I just do the same universe it is [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► Amy all dear I manicures a meanness for [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► the actual movies and then the [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► introduction of lip kid that gets you [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► one up on Steve Glenn Fleischman is also [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► here Glenn how happy Holidays to you [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► lose Powell's social spoils [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► well it's bleedin you're in a year in a [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► mixed household are you not do you do [TS]

00:01:55 ◼   ► not do Hanukkah and Christmas we're sort [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► of mix between atheism and something [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► else i don't know if this so as you're [TS]

00:02:01 ◼   ► celebrating the solstice and the [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► movement of the earth around the Sun as [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► as a friend of mine asked me in college [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► when she found out I was Jewish he said [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► you don't celebrate Christmas now I said [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► she said not even commercially and as [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► I've grown up I discover in fact that is [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► that we celebrated we celebrate [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► Christmas in a commercial spirit through [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► Christmas observed for our children for [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► purchase and then 22 visitors who have [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► been on the podcast before and I [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► back to celebrate with us first off damn [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► freaks hide and welcome [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► hi you know I really didn't think this [TS]

00:02:34 ◼   ► is the christmas movies that suck [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► episode [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► no no no I'm gonna kill prepared i'm [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► gonna have to hang up on you [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► one man season the wonders another man [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► suck thats that's what if that's what [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► makes you feel the love is I want to [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► terrible hope is that the episodes a [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► designated circulating yeah i'm playing [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► Little John series tonight [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► yikes where this is American League [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► rules so and also joining us is a man [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► who loves every Christmas movie and has [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► never said anything negative about any [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► christmas-themed movie ever in his life [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► mr. Andy anarcho hello every new year to [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► you in jail go on home Jason there [TS]

00:03:17 ◼   ► waiting for you how this is the greatest [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► podcast ever isn't it though [TS]

00:03:23 ◼   ► god bless us everyone happy birthday i [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► just made an angel [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► I want you to Pixies go to the door out [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► the window [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► it gave me i'm handing out winners don't [TS]

00:03:37 ◼   ► just only those who listen to copper [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► realize we have no format and i have no [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► organizational principle for any episode [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► this is no different [TS]

00:03:45 ◼   ► so what I'm going to do is go around the [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► the table the virtual table of our panel [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► and ask them to bring up a particular [TS]

00:03:56 ◼   ► movie that they would like to to just [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► slobber all over with adoration and love [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► for the colony goodness that it brings [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► to all of our lives or something like [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► that or at least their own life right [TS]

00:04:08 ◼   ► exactly right now we of course what will [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► happen is that the rest of us will sit [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► there and go [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► yes yes absolutely or mmm [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► and now maybe not and that's a then [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► you've got a podcast so let's begin with [TS]

00:04:22 ◼   ► Glenn fleischmann really i have a [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► modern-day classic exactly but it's a [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► lot of fun you know there's all the [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► classic films we do try out things like [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► holiday and so forth that we try to [TS]

00:04:35 ◼   ► watch over here just for fun but I like [TS]

00:04:37 ◼   ► elf will ferrell's elf and I was [TS]

00:04:41 ◼   ► discussing this with a couple people in [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► the last few days some of whom do not [TS]

00:04:44 ◼   ► understand the glory that is elf because [TS]

00:04:46 ◼   ► they think of it as kind of a uneven [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► movie that sort of stupid and I think [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► they don't quite get the spirit behind [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► it because one of the things that i love [TS]

00:04:54 ◼   ► about Will Ferrell is his total [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► commitment and on Saturday Night Live [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► that didn't always work because he [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► sometimes had really terrible characters [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► but he was totally committed to it and [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► you you know I even if you hated this is [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► my love her schedule my lover think he [TS]

00:05:09 ◼   ► did with Rachel Dratch I kinda hate that [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► one but he was all there and an elf [TS]

00:05:12 ◼   ► he's a child who is actually found by or [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► so left get left behind or something or [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► adopted winds up being raised the North [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► Pole by i bought a new heart by bob [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► newhart is awesome my always thinks he's [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► an elf we find that he's adopted even [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► though he's you know six and a half foot [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► tall and all the other officer repeat [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► all you rather lay in his childhood and [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► his twenties and he's not as good a [TS]

00:05:38 ◼   ► healthy thing so he goes to seek out his [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► up his real parents as biological [TS]

00:05:43 ◼   ► parents and Friends his mother's gone [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► and his father is of course James Caan [TS]

00:05:49 ◼   ► and worse it's I find the movie and it's [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► just great and at some other steam [TS]

00:05:54 ◼   ► version is that much as mom and there is [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► a God as they're playing Santa Claus [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► it's crazy movie it's not you know its [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► own forget of course there's a love [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► interest station and sort of slowly [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► forgetting it so i always want to see [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► additional but it is not sweet dishes [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► and we know it is rejection is in fact [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► only dish now this case your your [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► instinct is correct i wanted to say [TS]

00:06:17 ◼   ► Scarlett has additionally been wanting [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► for a rolls and I think the movie it's a [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► lot of fun because you know Will Ferrell [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► his character believes he's now and in [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► Santa Claus exists and RL so it's not [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► played [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► for muggin which are terrible movies [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► it's not played as farce exactly there's [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► a lot of slapstick and farcical things [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► he's an alpha star seekers dad and james [TS]

00:06:39 ◼   ► caan is awesome because James Caan is [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► doing a James Caan role he's kind of a [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► hard-ass and he doesn't really dig the [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► whole thing and he doesn't believe [TS]

00:06:45 ◼   ► anything that buddy the elf played by [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► Will Ferrell is saying for a while until [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► he starts to come around and it's [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► discreet things like it's oh my god [TS]

00:06:53 ◼   ► thats you know MF and james caan they're [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► being cut James Caan and because of that [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► is that it's a film I think it kind of [TS]

00:07:01 ◼   ► holds together and it's got some great [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► seats got some stupid stuff and of [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► course mother some lovely bits and [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► there's just a nice little things where [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► buddy the elf what's up essentially he [TS]

00:07:12 ◼   ► has a job at a department store or [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► thinks he has a job Department story [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► just starts working there because that's [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► where Santa is all the elves and he [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► stays overnight in the store and creates [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► of course because he is he's been [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► trained by else he creates in the most [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► crazy ridiculous over-the-top display [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► and no one can figure out you know who [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► did it and they for your corporate [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► corporate set down someone to do this [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► because they weren't you know [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► sufficiently cheerful enough for [TS]

00:07:35 ◼   ► something and of course it has the [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► obligatory so additional in the shower [TS]

00:07:39 ◼   ► scene which every move she appears and I [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► believe contractually has to have her in [TS]

00:07:43 ◼   ► the shower [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► she's in Hitchhiker's Guide the shower [TS]

00:07:45 ◼   ► i'm sure you know everything i can think [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► she's in the shower and and that's in [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► there too i agree though that that every [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► every move its traditional is in should [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► have a shower scene with her in it and [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► not will ferrell I didn't really start [TS]

00:07:58 ◼   ► the people the people like elf because I [TS]

00:08:00 ◼   ► don't know if we watched over here we [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► bought it we watch it every year i like [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► i like a lot i loved Alf I'll i think [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► it's great i watch it for the first time [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► a couple years ago when I I do like it I [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► like it it accepts its own absurdity [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► you're right in saying that will ferrell [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► commits that's actually the thing i love [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► about Will Ferrell and he's made a lot [TS]

00:08:18 ◼   ► of bad movies and he's made some good [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► movies but i think his best attribute is [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► that he fully commit and will do any [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► level of ridiculousness that is required [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► and even if i don't like the movie that [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► I'm watching if I will often just smile [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► at the fact that will Ferrell is doing [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► everything possible to try and make it [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► work [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► yeah not fun it is they do now in the [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► money he's there it moving they suck but [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► he is there and this character of Buddy [TS]

00:08:48 ◼   ► the elf is fully committed to Christmas [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► right he's insanely maniacally committed [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► in a way that no regular person would be [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► and that's right right exactly and [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► that's why and that's why it works and [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► you and I wanted to bring up [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► I mean there's that there's a hilarious [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► scene where Peter Dinklage is mistaken [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► by buddy for a real elf is he's an angry [TS]

00:09:09 ◼   ► oh yeah but I like there's a scene that [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► I love that where he gets a job and it's [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► like a boiler room [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► it's a start maybe they'll raise [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► concepts into the mailroom to do sorting [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► to keep matters here which is a classic [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► Christmas show [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► yeah exactly Miracle on thirty-fourth [TS]

00:09:26 ◼   ► Street right exactly but it's but it's [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► like the mailroom as hell it is like the [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► worst place in the world and Buddy the [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► elf shiny know and Buddy the elf astern [TS]

00:09:35 ◼   ► on anyway yeah so I agree I i love well [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► it's a good thing that's exactly the [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► thing I like so much about it i mean [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► it's it's the only recent a holiday film [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► that i can think of this really true to [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► the spirit of the older classics and and [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► it has a lot of kind of nifty little [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► references to the older films like I'm [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► pretty sure that the mailroom was there [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► because it was you know is featured in [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► Maryland sorcery fourth Street exactly [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► and actually I watched it last night [TS]

00:10:03 ◼   ► because I hadn't seen in awhile and and [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► noticed a couple of good little bits of [TS]

00:10:06 ◼   ► trivia in the in the credits are playing [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► one of the polar bear cubs at the [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► beginning when he's in the North Pole [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► and there's various animals and stop [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► motion animation Ray Harryhausen that I [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► think he has maybe two lines but you [TS]

00:10:22 ◼   ► know it's it's just super cool that [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► they've got this sort of a you know stop [TS]

00:10:26 ◼   ► motion animation going on in there a [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► providing the voice instead of instead [TS]

00:10:30 ◼   ► of burl ives being the Snowman it's at [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► Leon Redbone hook boat only a redbone [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► this is my problem it's I'd also say [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► it's gotta you know for those of us and [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► publishing it's got that bit where James [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► Caan is a children's book publisher is [TS]

00:10:44 ◼   ► publishing these terrible things any [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► signs off on proofs that have a blank [TS]

00:10:49 ◼   ► page in it and I'm like I can't believe [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► everything else I can believe the elf [TS]

00:10:52 ◼   ► insanity office [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► everything but I cannot believe he would [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► actually sign those proofs [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► no he's just that naughty the depiction [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► of Santa is very realistic depiction of [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► the publishing industry that's what not [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► so much [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► yeah and then lastly and I would never [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► cut this without seeing the credits [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► because it's been forever since I've [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► seen him I the character of the elf [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► foreman who kind of a no frowns on but [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► he's okay boys is actually Peter [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► Billingsley he's uncredited alright he's [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► uncredited but yes he does tomorrow play [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► that part and you would never recognize [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► him he may or may not come up later for [TS]

00:11:28 ◼   ► obvious reasons right yeah once you [TS]

00:11:31 ◼   ► realize it's him and end you take a good [TS]

00:11:34 ◼   ► look at him and you see those you know [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► bright blue eyes looking at you like oh [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► god has been feeling like crazy [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► I'm so because he's mostly a producer [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► now is me pretty hard riding so yeah [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► yeah that's exactly the same now as you [TS]

00:11:45 ◼   ► did and kind of weak little little [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► freaky part of this great about this [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► film is like every secondary character [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► is a terrific character in traffic actor [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► so it's got you know one-half of of Jack [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► Black and Kyle gasps aah gasps and it's [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► also Emily and the director is the one [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► that the writing team right to them and [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► you've got Amy Sedaris looking pretty [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► not making her face deformed as the [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► secretary James Caan and another thing [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► it's not it's very nice i'm still trying [TS]

00:12:13 ◼   ► to figure out how Mary Steenburgen and [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► james caan made that little italian boy [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► it's true i just love her she's so sweet [TS]

00:12:20 ◼   ► this film has a crazy amount of [TS]

00:12:22 ◼   ► sweetness and for being such a strange [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► weird thing it's just it's very sweet at [TS]

00:12:26 ◼   ► the end when everyone starts singing you [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► better not cry better not how it is i [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► actually tear up it's it's just it's [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► genuinely sweet and just kind of a [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► lovely thing I'm glad people liked it [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► we are going to put elf in the in the [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► vault in the movie vault on the nice [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► list which is no light or air correct [TS]

00:12:43 ◼   ► that's right we poke some holes in it so [TS]

00:12:45 ◼   ► it can breathe from there it's on the [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► nice list thank you glad that is [TS]

00:12:48 ◼   ► excellent use of the theme [TS]

00:12:51 ◼   ► let's uh let's move on and i'm going to [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► let damn freaks have our next choice [TS]

00:12:58 ◼   ► this movie is not officially a holiday [TS]

00:13:00 ◼   ► movie but so much of it takes place on [TS]

00:13:02 ◼   ► the holidays that I'm demon it so and I [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► should also say that probably [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► the big reason that i love it so much is [TS]

00:13:09 ◼   ► because my wife and I have always loved [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► it and so it's got a lot of sentimental [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► value but it also has to do with all the [TS]

00:13:17 ◼   ► things that make you know the holidays [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► great family being together with you [TS]

00:13:21 ◼   ► know with your loved ones for Godfather [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► admit it [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► yeah but aren't and that is actually [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► 1989's When Harry Met Sally ohh haha and [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► we love this movie it's more of a new [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► year's movies and creates its holidays [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► you know they're dragging the Christmas [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► tree through New York City yeah there's [TS]

00:13:41 ◼   ► all these you know there's the Bing [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► Crosby version of have yourself a merry [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► little christmas which I contend is the [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► best version sorry Frank fans and you [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► know there's lots of scenes on the [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► holidays lots of things about being [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► together with people the holidays being [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► ripped apart from people at the holidays [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► and in the end it's you know you know [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► the the final scene in The New Year's [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► party where they say hey this is what [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► I've been looking for all along what [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► I've been doing and it's it's around our [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► family it's sort of the holiday movie we [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► make sure we watch once a year [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► dan my wife and I watched try to watch [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► that movie on new year's eve every every [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► yes and and and the other thing I think [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► is really interesting about it is that I [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► i told my wife when I guess it was last [TS]

00:14:22 ◼   ► year I said you know this was the very [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► first aaron sorkin movie because the [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► although that because the dialogue in it [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► was at the time when it when it came out [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► 9990 dialogue around really snappy [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► dialogue and lower and more effort but [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► Peter people are talking over each other [TS]

00:14:37 ◼   ► people talking over each other people [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► talking over each other all right back [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► and forth back and forth back and forth [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► you know like the wave no one really [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► actually talk to your life but he's [TS]

00:14:44 ◼   ► funny and so we were laughing about that [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► because we're thinking now it's all the [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► rage you know for these air circuit [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► movies they had that kind of dialogue [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► but in 99 this was pretty interesting [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► way of having you know two characters in [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► the movie talk [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► yeah i am meg Ryan has never looked [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► lovelier in a couple of scenes in the [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► middle of that movie so or yet or been [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► better and billy crystal has never [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► looked better cuz for frankly really [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► yeah he's never look that's the only [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► movie which i could buy him as a [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► romantic lead after I exactly oh yeah [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► I've seen in other films he's always [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► he's always too sticky he's always too [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► during the week with the thing and this [TS]

00:15:20 ◼   ► is actually [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► sort of honest lots of his stand-up [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► lines are actually in this movie better [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► right hehe something about it he's a [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► he's not so sticky hehe it's a little [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► more rounded of character [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► I think it helps that his character is [TS]

00:15:32 ◼   ► so beaten down so early in the movie [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► when he's like that he's abandoned by [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► his wife she leaves him for another man [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► that gets you on his side a little bit [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► and I think that helps that movie [TS]

00:15:42 ◼   ► structurally to have this your review [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► how to root for him a little because mr. [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► 0new yeah well it's Charlie and his [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► character actually developed over the [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► course the movie like you said so he's [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► he's he's kind of the cheesy obnoxious [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► guy for the first you know 45 minutes in [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► there you suddenly see is his softer [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► side I his is I've been rubbed in the [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► ground side and he comes you know in the [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► end he turns out he's actually a really [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► good guy but yeah there's so much so [TS]

00:16:08 ◼   ► many quotable i just kind of like the e [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► the princess bride of romantic comedies [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► it's like the contemporary adult radio [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► or the princess bride and a good Carrie [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► Fisher I think this is the only other [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► things other than Star Wars of the [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► carrie fisher's been in that I liked but [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► Carrie Fisher and Bruno Kirby really [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► plays so great they were awesome as [TS]

00:16:27 ◼   ► important like in there in the thirties [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► and forties those the sort of actors who [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► could have made a 30-year career playing [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► the best friend of the leading man in [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► the leading lady and they just would've [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► been every single movie they would have [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► retired very very wealthy and very well [TS]

00:16:41 ◼   ► known about ever having other name above [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► the title [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► Bruno Kirby yeah he is he's great miss [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► they're both great miss this is a and [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► they're not that many characters in this [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► movie really i mean they're really the [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► four characters and a few other very [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► minor characters it really is about the [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► for the for the characters and and they [TS]

00:17:00 ◼   ► try to try to double date with the wrong [TS]

00:17:02 ◼   ► pair and it's very clear immediately [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► that Bruno Kirby and Carrie Fisher want [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► to be together and they abandoned harry [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► and Sally leave them by themselves it's [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► just yeah just adore also great to cameo [TS]

00:17:13 ◼   ► Rob Reiner mother of course right who [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► says I'll have what she's having [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► and gerald ford's son is also in this [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► movie really thats some trivia the it's [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► always boyfriend who she who takes he [TS]

00:17:23 ◼   ► takes her to the airport which you [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► should never do at the beginning of a [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► relationship because then later right [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► you don't take them to the airport they [TS]

00:17:29 ◼   ► say why didn't you take why don't you [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► take me to the airport anymore say I've [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► seen this movie too many times yes [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► yeah yeah might my wife and we were [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► first courting each other we would put [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► this movie far too much it's a little [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► scary but and then all of course all the [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► know the little vignettes with the the [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► old couples where you're perfect for the [TS]

00:17:47 ◼   ► right yeah I think that's a great choice [TS]

00:17:49 ◼   ► but to keep and keeping my my string of [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► a job damn of odd movies but like I [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► picked groundhog day for time travel so [TS]

00:17:56 ◼   ► I'm just going for that unusual [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► what every time a great choice great [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► choice dan will put it in the vault then [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► we can cuddle up next to elf will [TS]

00:18:06 ◼   ► ferrell will be fully committing the [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► cuddling up next to when harry met sally [TS]

00:18:10 ◼   ► let's go to mr. Andy anat cohen next [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► I'll a proposed choice because by pic [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► has actually already been mentioned [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► groundhog day I think it's one of my all [TS]

00:18:23 ◼   ► exactly see well it's even this is this [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► is like the preparation you do for this [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► for this kind of a topic because I'm [TS]

00:18:29 ◼   ► like well okay sent a clear the mystery [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► science theater 3000 version of santa [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► claus conquers the martians or the [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► cinematic titanic personal that's great [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► that's a great pic visit there's a [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► perfect it's the perfect enhancement to [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► a really really awful movie but there's [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► not really much to talk about it's [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► really really funny [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► well done ten bucks most money goes to [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► the people who actually put it together [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► good go for it I I i think that I I [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► didn't pick groundhog day specifically [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► for this topic I've always thought that [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► groundhog day is probably the most [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► authentic version of a christmas carol [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► that's ever been done in the form of a [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► moon even more so than the other bill [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► murray christmas carol was going to say [TS]

00:19:08 ◼   ► screws try screws by now the idea of a [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► christmas carol the idea of Scrooge's so [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► homogenized that all you got to do is [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► get a dude column Scrooge make sure he's [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► rich and really really nasty at the very [TS]

00:19:20 ◼   ► top of the movie and you okay the [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► government will allow you to get the tax [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► break that has occurred that as a [TS]

00:19:25 ◼   ► according to you by virtue of the fact [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► you're making virtual christmas carol [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► they don't really sort of tune into what [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► the story was really about like if you [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► if you take the time to really like free [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► the original story which is really an [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► amazing or listen to Patrick Stewart's [TS]

00:19:39 ◼   ► dramatic reading of it which is as close [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► as you're going to get to actually [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► reading the original story because the [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► whole story of Christmas Carol [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► was supposed to be if you if you're [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► gonna make a great version of this you [TS]

00:19:50 ◼   ► have to understand that screws in the [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► villains Scrooge's the hero of the story [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► where he has to rehabilitate himself he [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► has to spend one night confronting [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► everything that's going on in his life [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► all the mistakes that he's made at the [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► end it's not that he's terrified that [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► gosh what if I've been it's been proven [TS]

00:20:09 ◼   ► to me that if I don't change my ways i'm [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► gonna die and go to hell [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► it's more like God I have been one big [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► bus load of crap for my entire life [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► unfortunately i have some unfortunately [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► I'm i woke up in the morning I got and I [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► had an opportunity to make this day [TS]

00:20:23 ◼   ► better than any other day that I've ever [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► had my entire life really more of a [TS]

00:20:27 ◼   ► horse-drawn carriage load [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► no I think they they did have the honor [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► of respect and I think that they could [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► have created it specifically for the [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► load of crap which was was it wasn't [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► just the crap in his life he was a [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► leading export of crap in other people's [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► lives [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► I'll accept that so and this was the [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► Industrial Revolution so he probably [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► would have paid to have small tiny tiny [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► workhouse children assembling all the [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► gears and rods in this machine because [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► he was he was quick it was a factory [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► town for emotional crap everywhere [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► everywhere around the Scrooge and Marley [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► business district but so but what is [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► Groundhog Day but the entire that same [TS]

00:21:06 ◼   ► entire thing where Bill Murray is he's [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► not named screw just not Christmas [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► although we have lots and lots of snow [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► around so we can call that you know nice [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► and Christmassy in wintry a his whole [TS]

00:21:15 ◼   ► job is to figure out a it is certainly [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► to figure out what's wrong with his life [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► what is he not doing correctly [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► why is he being YC so selfish and [TS]

00:21:24 ◼   ► self-centered why does he absolutely not [TS]

00:21:26 ◼   ► spend any time thinking about anybody [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► else [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► and although there's never any stated [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► rule as to why he's living this day over [TS]

00:21:34 ◼   ► and over and over again [TS]

00:21:35 ◼   ► there comes the day when he lives this [TS]

00:21:37 ◼   ► day perfectly where he's doing nothing [TS]

00:21:39 ◼   ► but thinking about other people not [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► because he's desperate to avoid faith [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► but because he's been trapped in the [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► state for I think I'll Ramos said that [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► the original plan was that he was sort [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► of stuck in this day for 10 years but by [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► the end of the movie so over 10 years he [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► had basically played out every other [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► scenario of [TS]

00:21:57 ◼   ► what do you do when you know that at the [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► end of the day there'll be no [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► consequences and whilst restart the [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► entire day brand-new he goes through all [TS]

00:22:04 ◼   ► the selfish stuff of using people and [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► stealing and even have some fun killing [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► himself time and time and time again to [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► try to escape it but at some point it [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► becomes what can i do to make this day [TS]

00:22:14 ◼   ► the best first day I could possibly ever [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► have and so he rehabilitates himself [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► this is the day that the end of the [TS]

00:22:20 ◼   ► movie i do legitimately love who he is [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► by the end of the movie because it [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► really is that entire scene at the end [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► of a christmas carol we're screwed just [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► throwing over throwing open the door to [TS]

00:22:32 ◼   ► the the the door the doors to his window [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► and so are you boil wonderful boy what a [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► lovely boy get you know that to the [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► prize Turkey thats hanging the poachers [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► going to fetch it's such a lovely boy [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► well the only sits more subdued because [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► he's like the got the same guy that he [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► wanted to see the the same guy who when [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► confronted with like you know Ned [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► Ryerson Ned the head needlenose ned was [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► just pursue probably annoyed by him the [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► first time you met him and then when he [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► was in the gosh I can do whatever I want [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► this is great i could just punch him [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► right in the freaking face and nobody [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► will care because nothing happened about [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► it give it a free choices like no I will [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► make this guy i will give this guy the [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► best day he's ever had as a cell when [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► I'm gonna buy a boat insurance even [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► though i don't have a boat i'm going to [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► take care of every single person in this [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► town only because that's something that [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► I can do and I don't want to wait for [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► anybody else to fix things in this town [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► you know there's a subtle thing I wonder [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► if I'm the only one who's caught this or [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► I'm getting I'm getting it wrong as the [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► chris elliott character as the cameraman [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► for the shoot that that bill murray [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► supposed to be doing on-site there in a [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► Pakistani chris elliott and the [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► beginning the movie you think he's a [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► really nice guy is being abused by the [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► end of the movie chris elliott seems [TS]

00:23:49 ◼   ► like a total schmuck and there's like a [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► cosmic balance power as the day goes on [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► the more you see cresselia or as the day [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► repeats itself the worst where she comes [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► off as Bill Murray becomes a better and [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► better person at the end you're like [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► what it's come back i think i think is [TS]

00:24:05 ◼   ► that everybody looks better have cut [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► place next to Bill Murray at the [TS]

00:24:09 ◼   ► beginning that movie [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► I also i also agree that if this movie [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► had been shot let's say six years later [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► he would have paid played by Paul [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► Giamatti good because he's not he's not [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► that sort of like active jerk is more [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► like he's just he was raised in a [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► basement with very little contact with [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► outside people he has to sort of great [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► released it released as an adult he now [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► has to sort of figure out how human [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► beings operate [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► oh oh yes he is the sort of person to [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► make a big big flash about tipping a [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► bartender at dollar or two dollars while [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► this perspective date is watching events [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► like sneak back and like remove one [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► dollar from that jar make a good case [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► for this being Christmas Eve despite [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► being place very high ground hard guy [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► yeah it's it's a it's a holiday I i love [TS]

00:24:57 ◼   ► groundhog day I think it's probably [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► probably in my top 10 films of all time [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► I think so well-constructed and and the [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► thing that I think is remarkable about [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► it as a bill murray vehicle is it's one [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► of the very few instances I've seen [TS]

00:25:10 ◼   ► where he does emotion and it seems it [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► seems like real emotion it doesn't seem [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► like he's he's play-acting or he's being [TS]

00:25:16 ◼   ► sarcastic and that's really thinking [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► about Scrooge that never quite worked [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► for me is that big scene at the end [TS]

00:25:22 ◼   ► where he is you know you can have the [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► miracle to and all that business it it [TS]

00:25:26 ◼   ► seems very contrived and very fake and [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► and almost you know Manik and and weird [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► and and it's it's not so much i would [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► expect the people around him to be [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► applauding and laughing along with him [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► more sort of cycling toward the exit [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► quietly and that's also in the problems [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► of the end of christmas carol because [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► all of a sudden Josh ok thank you you [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► gave me is a secret turkey and like [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► you're you you will you went to church [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► that one day that makes up for the fact [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► that you put hundreds if not thousands [TS]

00:25:56 ◼   ► of poor Londoners out of the street and [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► then in the middle of the cold like [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► we're supposed to herald you as the [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► resident finest man in town because of [TS]

00:26:03 ◼   ► one day he decided to start to be a nice [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► guy [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► alright well that's the brilliance of [TS]

00:26:09 ◼   ► the of the of the setting of this we [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► kind of get the impression that he's [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► going to continue to help or of course [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► but that's the difference is that it's [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► it's it's a point that's made veteran in [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► the book then in the movies [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► sure this is the the brilliance of the [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► setting of the movie right because in [TS]

00:26:23 ◼   ► any other setting [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► where he's you know around people that [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► know him and know that he's an ass [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► it doesn't work but he goes out to the [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► middle of nowhere where no one knows him [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► except on TV and the only person only [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► one person you get the impression that [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► I'm Andy McDowell has never really [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► worked there before and chris elliott [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► you know he's a little socially in [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► episode 1 matter but no one knows him so [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► he can keep going through this every day [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► and by the time he's actually it you [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► know become this good real good person [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► no one else really know that he made [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► this dramatic change they just think [TS]

00:26:54 ◼   ► that's the way he's always been right [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► right yeah what else if it becomes [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► interesting just that this is this is [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► why that movie begins and ends in [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► exactly the right spots because you [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► don't want to have like a follow-up a [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► week later where everybody who knows him [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► back in this back in the states [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► violation of his / as any idea why are [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► you what are you up to what are you [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► trying to get out of me the fact that [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► you brought donuts for the entire office [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► are you tried are you trying to weasel [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► internal god that's just like you fill [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► maybe that's not even an issue because [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► the last line of the film is let's live [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► here so you know right here is done with [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► this purple one of the smartest things [TS]

00:27:30 ◼   ► the entire movie is that they wisely [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► realized that nobody in the audience [TS]

00:27:34 ◼   ► cares why this day is being replayed [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► over and over again [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► nobody cares if there's any rules for [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► how he can pray how we got into this or [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► how we can break out of it because there [TS]

00:27:44 ◼   ► earlier draft of the script that [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► according to the director commentary on [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► the DVD it was that all she he created [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► created an old girlfriend badly in the [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► girlfriend put a spell on without him [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► knowing it this is how this happened [TS]

00:27:56 ◼   ► nobody cares about that just was just [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► accept that this just like just like we [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► can accept that will Ferrell is a six [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► foot three else haha who has to hop and [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► skip the true cross walks in New York [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► City it's okay we're in a movie theater [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► we we're willing to suspend our [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► disbelief if you do a good job with this [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► movie will put groundhog day in the [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► vault and hit when harry met sally and [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► elf will say what are you doing here and [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► but that's I think that's a great [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► selection i do think that movie is a [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► classic and I love thinking of it as a [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► christmas carol that is a great way of [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► thinking of Groundhog Day now you can [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► watch groundhog day in December not just [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► februari oh thank goodness that's great [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► but it was a gift you give it is that's [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► it's [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► it's more portable now so long as the [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► government will get off our backs about [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► when we can watch this movie [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► let's uh move on to miss Caldwell [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► serenity called well what do you think [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► what what do you have for us [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► okay well growing up my parents and my [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► sister and I would routinely watched [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► three movies and I will talk about one [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► but the the three movies were it's a [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► wonderful life Miracle on thirty-fourth [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► Street and and he's going to kill me but [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► white Christmas so i'm not going to talk [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► about white Christmas for fear of having [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► this turn into a nasty holiday special [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► I'm nothing but sunshine and light if [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► you wanna find quality but memories [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► attached to it that I certainly would be [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► a very small person to try to sell you [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► those members I appreciate you not [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► ruining my seven-year-old childhood [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► dreams I but thankfully I won't talk to [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► introduce Miss miracle there's another [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► podcast you can listen to if you'd like [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► to [TS]

00:29:32 ◼   ► we're holding rims holiday Christmas [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► running definitely i love that one [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► I think Syracuse would do it good he [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► certainly would and make fun of me [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► anyway I'm i want to talk about it's a [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► wonderful life because it's probably my [TS]

00:29:46 ◼   ► favorite holiday movie and I try and [TS]

00:29:48 ◼   ► watch it at least once a year [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► yeah I love it night Jimmy Jimmy Stewart [TS]

00:29:54 ◼   ► is probably one of my personal heroes [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► and I watched a lot of movies from the [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► the thirties or forties and fifties [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► growing up so I love that era of [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► filmmaking and frank capra's movies are [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► great but it's a wonderful life at and [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► actually in in coincide with all the [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► previous pics that we have it has a [TS]

00:30:12 ◼   ► lovely has a lovely our core level for a [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► story I think that's what makes for good [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► holiday movies is its you have a [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► character who's in one place and then he [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► discovered either there's something [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► that's like self-discovery or it's a [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► life change or something but you always [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► you know even even those parts of this [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► movie are very you know getting go to a [TS]

00:30:33 ◼   ► dark place I it all comes out right in [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► the end and I i really like that about [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► this movie I there's a lot of a lot of [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► great scenes i love that we start with [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► you know basically start by giving a the [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► first half of the movie is a summary of [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► of Jimmy Stewart's character's life [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► up until then so you get all this you [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► know you get you get a reason for oh [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► here's here's how his life could have [TS]

00:30:57 ◼   ► gone here's here are the people that are [TS]

00:30:59 ◼   ► important in his life here is what he'd [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► be giving up by committing suicide at [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► you just have some wonderful character [TS]

00:31:06 ◼   ► interaction i love lionel Barrymore with [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► a passion and he plays the bad guys so [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► well Henry Traverse is adorable as [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► Clarence Donna Reed puts in a fine [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► showing as madam librarian in general I [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► just it's hard to articulate exactly why [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► I love this movie it's a bunch of really [TS]

00:31:26 ◼   ► lovely vignettes that put together [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► create a lovely overarching film and I [TS]

00:31:32 ◼   ► saw it actually got a chance to see it [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► in as a 35-millimeter print on my [TS]

00:31:36 ◼   ► birthday about three years ago and like [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► this small theater in Connecticut and [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► until I saw the the revamped Raiders [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► print I think that was my favorite film [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► ever seen in theaters [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► well it wasn't a terrible failure during [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► capital and he was this originally like [TS]

00:31:50 ◼   ► a box-office flop and it it took three [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► runs on television to turn into [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► something that we all adore so much of a [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► lambasted this movie is like Oh Frank [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► Cambridge's doesn't he doesn't have the [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► stuff anymore and I don't know what yeah [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► i mean it was wrong for chorus [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► yeah we need some nostalgia ready the [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► the lens of nostalgia for this to appear [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► because when you're living through that [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► you're like we're in the middle of a war [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► and we're all poor and it's all horrible [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► when it came out but you need a few [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► years space maybe yeah well I think [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► everybody's kind of in that mindset [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► where they're like no all of our lives [TS]

00:32:22 ◼   ► are sucky what are you why are you [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► trying to instead of give us you know [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► escapism like white Christmas why are [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► you why are you trying to prove that [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► things are are terrible and that there [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► are bad things and where are you talking [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► about mortgages and home loans we don't [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► want to watch out holiday movie about [TS]

00:32:37 ◼   ► home loans [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► yeah in the future financial collapses [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► will not occur and this will not be [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► relevant anyway I have a question for [TS]

00:32:48 ◼   ► you as I came to this movie very late i [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► only saw it for the first time I don't [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► know five or ten years ago [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► do you think that the the focus on him [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► being on the bridge the focus on the [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► here's what would happen [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► if your life had been different which is [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► I was surprised how long it takes to get [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► to that point of the movie do you think [TS]

00:33:11 ◼   ► that do you think that the movie not the [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► movie suffers but the movie that it's [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► harder to view the movie now because [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► it's got this [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► it's taken a life of its own but but but [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► people are very focused on the last part [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► of the movie instead of the movie as a [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► whole [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► no it's true i mean before when I i [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► watch this movie a lot like I said I [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► pretty much every year growing up and [TS]

00:33:31 ◼   ► there's a three or four-year period [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► where I didn't watch it and you get sort [TS]

00:33:34 ◼   ► of like the idealized all this is what [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► this movie is about and then when i [TS]

00:33:38 ◼   ► watched it again for the first time [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► after those like four years I'm like all [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► right there's this whole first half that [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► we just don't really think about but at [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► the same time I feel like that first [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► half is so integral to selling the [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► second half like you don't really care [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► about Jimmy Stewart's alternate reality [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► life if you don't know the people like [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► the cast of characters in the first [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► place I feel like you don't you don't [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► get the high school dance you don't get [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► him meet Mary you don't you don't get [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► all of that in the first half then [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► Oh member is a librarian like you don't [TS]

00:34:10 ◼   ► that doesn't hit you as as well as I [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► think it would like if you start that if [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► you start him jump like you start him [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► jumping off the bridge all all like a [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► Christmas like a Scrooge tail [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► I don't think you quite it quite [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► connects as well as it could would might [TS]

00:34:27 ◼   ► be the modern way you do this story [TS]

00:34:29 ◼   ► would be first off you start with him on [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► the bridge [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► yeah and then you do you know two days [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► earlier which are hate what you do those [TS]

00:34:36 ◼   ► sort of because there's the scene at the [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► beginning with the the Angels locking [TS]

00:34:39 ◼   ► ring and Claire ya know the Angels eight [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► they inform us that someone is all other [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► boleyn so you can sort of like a memento [TS]

00:34:46 ◼   ► cut when you start with like to keep [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► like going to the very very beginning [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► and what happens is he he's in the bad [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► universe and he decides to step through [TS]

00:34:56 ◼   ► a portal and change history so that is [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► what I I'm just I'm just saying I i [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► sometimes I think I worry that people [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► will look at this movie and think oh [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► this is the famous movie where all this [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► stuff happens and maybe it's something [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► about our patients now versus our [TS]

00:35:11 ◼   ► patients you know the patience of the [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► people who are the anticipated audience [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► of this back then but I was shocked when [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► i first saw it [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► this movie is not about him being [TS]

00:35:19 ◼   ► plunged into this world where he didn't [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► exist you know the movies about the guy [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► and his life and then all that other [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► stuff happens and it doesn't happen 10 [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► minutes into the movie it happens way [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► deep in the movie Jason the table is a [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► wonderful life right that's right i was [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► wonderful did you not think it was [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► wonderful [TS]

00:35:37 ◼   ► what's wrong with you don't think the [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► big the big deal is just to point out [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► that if he had through it wasn't just [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► the it wasn't just the idea that he [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► would kill himself but he would kill him [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► kill himself having thrown away this [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► lifetime of experiences that had come to [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► that point also the experiences that [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► would have come after that point that he [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► would be a worst-case would go to jail [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► for a few years but he would have gotten [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► out of jail and he had this really great [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► life to return to but it's it's such a [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► but it's such a great movie that you do [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► tend to overlook to rather glaring [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► issues so we say now we get both of them [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► have to do with Clarence now we when he [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► pops in pcs Jimmy Stewart is about to [TS]

00:36:18 ◼   ► commit suicide [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► how does Clarence decided to keep Jimmy [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► Stewart from jumping off the bridge [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► killing himself by jumping off the [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► bridge himself and forcing Jimmy Stewart [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► to jump into and thereby proving that [TS]

00:36:29 ◼   ► the bridge is not nearly tall enough to [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► actually kill either of them are going [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► to failure right so i would have all [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► depressed because that to the second [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► problem though this is this is what like [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► I i do love this movie but this this [TS]

00:36:43 ◼   ► idea popped into my head it color like [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► all subsequent viewings I realize that [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► at the very very beginning the the two [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► like senior angels once were actual [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► actual galaxies as opposed to just one [TS]

00:36:55 ◼   ► little little star pip have like called [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► and Clarence because I well he got these [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► pieces and it hasn't got his wings yet [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► he's sort of you know sort of like the [TS]

00:37:02 ◼   ► misfit of the group we gotta go get his [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► wings gotta get this gig you realize [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► that what they're saying is that they've [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► keep sending him to prevent people from [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► killing themselves and they kill [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► themselves anyway this is the first time [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► you've succeeded and talking something [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► out of it [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► oh my god he leaves a trail of bodies [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► behind them and eternity long o'clair [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► and how I prefer to think that he just [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► got transferred to the prevent suicide [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► division rather than he was in a [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► lifetime event given something simple [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► and Khushi like preventing you [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► the death of human being what we [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► probably have to assume that if he keeps [TS]

00:37:35 ◼   ► on you know helping people commit [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► suicide rather than preventing them from [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► committing suicide that he wouldn't be [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► assigned such a interesting duties may [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► be going to like savor hats or something [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► it doesn't give you a whole lot of [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► regard for what the the senior angels [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► think of Jimmy Stewart's character if [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► they send out this loose [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► exactly and number of just say I get the [TS]

00:37:56 ◼   ► sense that their hands are tied almost [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► you know it's like it's been having [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► bureaucracy device land it is within [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► your not exactly think they go on the [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► seniority system unfortunately it's a [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► last in first out sort of thing [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► Clarence's number is up so you get [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► Clarence sorry he's the next up it's his [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► case by the way clouds if you screw this [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► one up we cast you into purgatory for [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► all that no pressha let us place it's a [TS]

00:38:23 ◼   ► wonderful life as we are not surprised [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► at all [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► we will place it in the vault of [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► excellent holiday movies I think that's [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► a great a great selection and I'm glad [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► we didn't spend an hour talking about [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► white Christmas Steve let's what do you [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► have for us [TS]

00:38:37 ◼   ► well I'm actually quite glad that I got [TS]

00:38:39 ◼   ► to go before you because I have a [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► suspicion that we might have picked the [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► same thing one thing I was realizing [TS]

00:38:45 ◼   ► when I was digging through the endless [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► numbers of top 20 greatest christmas [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► movie list online to try and refresh my [TS]

00:38:53 ◼   ► memory is that I I i seem to think that [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► there are a lot of classic holiday films [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► but when I actually sit down and look at [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► the ones that that i've seen over the [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► years there really aren't that many that [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► are that great me a lot of them are you [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► you really only love because you [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► remember seeing a million times when you [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► were a kid like I could die get throw I [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► here without a Santa Claus out the [TS]

00:39:17 ◼   ► window now in and never think of it [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► again the end and then he was bothered [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► it but when I was a kid man I love that [TS]

00:39:25 ◼   ► the the heat miser song in the cold my [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► song and and and then I went back into [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► whoa these are not could and most of the [TS]

00:39:33 ◼   ► rankin/bass stop motions it into that [TS]

00:39:36 ◼   ► category for me you're not great but at [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► the same time like [TS]

00:39:40 ◼   ► those specials I will always watch those [TS]

00:39:41 ◼   ► specials if they're on this because it's [TS]

00:39:43 ◼   ► it's one of those things you know like [TS]

00:39:45 ◼   ► the movies that you watch when your kid [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► and even though you can kind of admit [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► they're not great right now there's one [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► to have on the background while you set [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► the table [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► I agree with that Rudolph is a good one [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► yeah it's diminishing returns with the [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► rank about all finish I i will get rid [TS]

00:40:00 ◼   ► off good issue status but then in the [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► song what happened is that all the other [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► Rangers in his peer group shunned him [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► which is of course I just what happens [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► and you know school kids that they're [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► mean but in the canvas special it was [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► the authority figure the coach of the [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► reindeer games [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► who said and now I think we all agree [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► that she can't play in any reindeer [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► games like Lester that is the primary [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► you're supposed to be the authority [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► figure here sir [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► that's why they gave you the little hat [TS]

00:40:27 ◼   ► and the whistle jerk [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► so Steve we didn't actually get to your [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► selection [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► this is true i got off on a bit of a [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► tangent there Michael and does that [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► surprise is non rankin/bass but it is [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► someone in the tape same time frame it [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► is of course the classic first peanuts [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► especially charlie brown christmas are [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► from 1965 I would never talk about [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► movies that would have been my pic that [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► is that is the one that that is the one [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► to end the most eves cheating basically [TS]

00:40:57 ◼   ► no I think he said holiday don't want to [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► leave your your-your-your the officials [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► are your dad we go back and look at i'm [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► gonna i'm going to allow it in the [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► spirit of the holiday [TS]

00:41:06 ◼   ► oh yeah i know god bless us everyone and [TS]

00:41:10 ◼   ► the moderators hurt grew three sizes [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► that a Scrooge is reformed quick Steve [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► run out and get it get that turkey in [TS]

00:41:18 ◼   ► the window down the street and bring it [TS]

00:41:20 ◼   ► back and then tell us more about Charlie [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► Brown you lovely lad [TS]

00:41:23 ◼   ► yes I mean what's not to love about a [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► charlie brown christmas it's so it's so [TS]

00:41:28 ◼   ► simple and so sweet and so weird I mean [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► there are so many elements piled [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► together there that just really should [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► not work mean that the animation is [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► terrible you know that I guess they were [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► on a real shoestring budget make they [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► couldn't really afford to do a decent [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► job on it and apparently bill melendez [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► several years later was kind of [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► embarrassed by it but Schultz wouldn't [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► let him go back and fix it that the [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► voice acting is you notice that sort of [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► halting you know it's real kids for a [TS]

00:41:57 ◼   ► change which I guess was unusual at the [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► time was very and no and just like that [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► we played Sally couldn't even read so [TS]

00:42:03 ◼   ► they had to feed her one line at a time [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► it and it shows [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► yeah and then just you know the [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► weirdness of the plot the fact that the [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► the Christmas play seems to consist of [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► them dancing and and Lucy's not at all [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► bothered by that sheet looks to Charlie [TS]

00:42:20 ◼   ► Brown and says is this a great play I [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► mean it's all it's just strange and then [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► you put together the garage as music [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► there which is wonderful and its own [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► right but you would never think it would [TS]

00:42:30 ◼   ► fit with the rest of the peanuts sort of [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► environment and yet it all works on such [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► such a strange level and it's feminist [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► mesmerizing and it said and it's I mean [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► it it's just that is so so earnest and [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► so sweet and you know it's strange that [TS]

00:42:54 ◼   ► you know I've I've lived my whole life [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► as a as an unwashed even and yet for [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► some reason [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► Linus gets on that stage and says lights [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► please and lays out with that gospel of [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► luke man it moves be in a weird way [TS]

00:43:08 ◼   ► because it's so well done and then and [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► then of course charlie brown afterwards [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► it's the first time I think you may have [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► ever seen charlie brown with sort of a a [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► wash of peace is over this free because [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► he has that little smile and he walks [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► out with his tree and it is immediately [TS]

00:43:24 ◼   ► dashed of course because that's just [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► charlie brown's lot in life but yeah [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► it's just it's just a lovely film it's [TS]

00:43:31 ◼   ► strange to me to that because it's so [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► slow and and kind of odd and weirdly [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► paste you would expect the modern child [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► to to still enjoy it but I i plot my [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► kids down in front of it last year and [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► we watched again this year and they just [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► aren't all my kids love it too and I [TS]

00:43:49 ◼   ► didn't think they would I got it and [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► what I was hopeful but I was waiting for [TS]

00:43:52 ◼   ► my my hopes to be dashed and the fact is [TS]

00:43:55 ◼   ► they think it's they think all the [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► peanuts specials are great and they love [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► Charlie Brown Christmas and I'm that [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► makes me very happy that that that 40 [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► years later basically it's still works [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► it's still getting it done they work [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► the the kids because they like you think [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► because it relates to its it slower [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► paced it's more gentle [TS]

00:44:13 ◼   ► it's got voices that sound like there's [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► I think there's something about it is [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► really relatable and Snoopy is also [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► really funny [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► sure don't forget Snoopy Snoopy Snoopy [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► kills even now he is old one and that's [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► one of the few films where he doesn't [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► have an extended scene where he's you [TS]

00:44:28 ◼   ► know playing hockey year you know doing [TS]

00:44:31 ◼   ► his world war one flying ace thing which [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► I think they relied on a bit too heavily [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► on the ice skates and dances I mean what [TS]

00:44:37 ◼   ► we have to ask for your gonna be really [TS]

00:44:39 ◼   ► brief interludes it doesn't occupy a 10 [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► minutes like already short special so so [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► what the things that struck me about [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► this and I i think i may have expanded [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► on the mend some other podcast in a [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► parallel universe this week but the the [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► you mentioned Steve I i I'm not a [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► religious person really but but i like [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► the scene with Linus doing the reading [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► it because you know it is Christmas that [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► is the source of the holiday and to [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► treat it with respect and and and not [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► shy away from that i like it i like i [TS]

00:45:12 ◼   ► like the honesty of it and the end the [TS]

00:45:14 ◼   ► clarity of it and I I'm not sure that a [TS]

00:45:17 ◼   ► show on a network today would do that [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► wouldn't want to do it [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► yeah they didn't want to listen and [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► networks hated that idea they didn't [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► especially skiing on the black diamond [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► course there [TS]

00:45:29 ◼   ► yeah because it's not only would not [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► only do they have will have to fight to [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► get that in but also it would be so easy [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► to turn that into proselytizing I say [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► now I'm going to where we are today this [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► is not an xmas so this is not a holiday [TS]

00:45:42 ◼   ► special this is a Christmas special [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► jesus is the reason for the season hits [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► this but this is exist exactly it's [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► exactly what Linus was feeling at that [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► moment so you're talking about Linus's [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► feelings are not necessarily the [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► feelings of what everybody should be [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► going thinking at that moment and it [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► really is one of those moments where if [TS]

00:46:01 ◼   ► someone has an opposition to that i'm [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► not i wouldn't judge them based on that [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► thing but i'd be more curious as to why [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► they have an opposition to that scene [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► then I would be wondering about that [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► scene itself [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► well i was gonna say something similar [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► and just there's a there's a great quote [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► from Charles Schulz about that where he [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► was fighting with that [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► executives and he's like well we don't [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► show them the true meaning of Christmas [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► then who the hell will [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► haha so so so the other thing in this [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► that similarly I think you could get [TS]

00:46:32 ◼   ► away with today at least not in the way [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► it's handled this this is still peanuts [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► right and so Charlie Brown has terrible [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► things happen to him but it's the it's [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► the anti-consumerist message which is [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► which is you know that this isn't and [TS]

00:46:48 ◼   ► they go hand in hand right because it's [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► like this is what this holiday is [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► supposed to be about and i love that and [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► after having coca-cola well that's [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► that's what I was like the Charlie Brown [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► all that special brought to you by macys [TS]

00:46:59 ◼   ► records but and yet and gallery [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► Madison's neck when you buy it for 999 [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► on itunes there were no commercials well [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► and now you can buy the Charlie Brown [TS]

00:47:07 ◼   ► tree to you can with the commercial [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► Charlie Brown tree you know this right [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► yes [TS]

00:47:13 ◼   ► yeah it's all over the internet but but [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► be that as it may if we do if you look [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► at the work spot I one of those things i [TS]

00:47:19 ◼   ► like about it is that Sally basically [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► says just give me I just want what's [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► coming to be just reminding their sugar [TS]

00:47:25 ◼   ► yeah exactly that's what I've got coming [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► to me yeah amazing i could probably [TS]

00:47:30 ◼   ► recite that film line for more although [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► there is no better line in that in that [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► special and when sure me says every [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► Christmas it's the same i always end up [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► playing a shepherd because every [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► Christmas it's the second but he still [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► gets to play the Shepherd every year i [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► think maybe you know this is the year he [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► gets to play the baby Jesus know [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► Sherman's Shepherd again always the [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► shepherd [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► hey Jason yeah yeah but we've all been [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► talking about our favorite movies and I [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► don't know that seems a little selfish [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► now to me that we spent always been [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► talking and what is the season sharing i [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► know but in this you know we should ask [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► you what do you think what's your [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► favorite holiday [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► what I'm curious why Steve thought that [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► I was going to choose charlie brown [TS]

00:48:12 ◼   ► christmas is it because I drafted [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► Charlie Brown and RDC character-driven [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► well i'm going to choose the team and [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► special with this Christmas know which [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► is which is just hit netflix streaming [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► by the way as lacking out during [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► christmas by the power of grayskull know [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► louisiana Lisa it's so we mentioned it [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► already and I this is a movie that I had [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► never seen before my wife exposed to me [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► because it was one of her favorites and [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► it is now one of mine if not my favorite [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► which is Miracle on thirty-fourth Street [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► em the originally ok we have to david [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► hart no Maureen O'Hara edmund gwenn [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► Natalie Wood is a little girl I love [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► this movie [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► the dylan mcdermott remake no no that's [TS]

00:49:01 ◼   ► been remade so many times good accept no [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► substitutes watch the original don't [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► even watch the colorized version of the [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► original watch the original [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► black-and-white be and it is a classic [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► and it does not need to be made again [TS]

00:49:12 ◼   ► because it's time the way it is in fact [TS]

00:49:14 ◼   ► that performance by edmund gwenn the [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► English actor who came to Hollywood late [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► in life and made this movie and won an [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► Oscar for Best Supporting Actor his [TS]

00:49:22 ◼   ► performance is so great you know i love [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► this movie I think there's a theme [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► running through a lot of these movies [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► where they have something about them [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► that is that sets them apart that's a [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► little bit strange a little bit skewed [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► and it's not treacly it's not sappy mean [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► obviously at the heart of Miracle on [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► thirty-fourth Street is this story of [TS]

00:49:40 ◼   ► you know it's not like a heartwarming [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► family story and there's a believe in [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► Santa Claus kind of story and the [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► importance of family but it's also like [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► a wacky courtroom drama where with where [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► there's sort of satirizing the political [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► aspects of Santa Claus there's William [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► Frawley who was fred mertz on I Love [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► Lucy plays a political operative who [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► advises the judge each option of this [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► movie isnot is I think the highlight of [TS]

00:50:08 ◼   ► the film from yes adding at the judge [TS]

00:50:10 ◼   ► that the whole just because there's the [TS]

00:50:12 ◼   ► sham of a court proceeding involving [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► Santa closet and a whole thing comes off [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► basically because of the publicity of [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► the judge and his advisor is Fred Mertz [TS]

00:50:23 ◼   ► but don't you feel for that judge that [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► the way out what the way the movie [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► outlines his position to say that [TS]

00:50:29 ◼   ► well of course this guy's not CSIS he [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► says he's Santa Claus he really should [TS]

00:50:33 ◼   ► this should be a close quarter which is [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► just committed like three seconds but if [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► there's so much attention now that if i [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► do this odd Christmas Eve I'll be the [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► idiot who sent Santa Claus to jail on [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► Christmas [TS]

00:50:45 ◼   ► yes it is Lord delivered me from this [TS]

00:50:48 ◼   ► let this cup pass from me as Edwards and [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► when all these letters start dumping on [TS]

00:50:52 ◼   ► his father's a lot of his bed just like [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► thank god I've got a lame excuse to [TS]

00:50:57 ◼   ► dismiss this case and I'm gonna take a [TS]

00:50:59 ◼   ► strike Fred Mertz as has stepped in and [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► helped him out [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► yeah and and they put the they put the [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► district attorney's son on this [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► yeah that's your daddy it's just it's so [TS]

00:51:17 ◼   ► so you know I mean there's other great [TS]

00:51:19 ◼   ► stuff here where there's the drunk Santa [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► he's kicked out oh you say it comes in [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► and he he upsets people [TS]

00:51:25 ◼   ► it says something about actually there's [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► an interesting whole bit in here about [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► good customer service which again it's [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► like what a strange thing to be a movie [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► but the idea that that it's like Santa [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► and Miracle on thirty-fourth Street is [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► like the original genius from the genius [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► bar at Apple hehe basically gets these [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► questions and he says well no we don't [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► have that here but i'll tell you where [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► you can get that you can get that across [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► the street at Gimbels they have it and [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► it's a pretty good deal you should go [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► over there and and his supervised like [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► what no we can't do that and it and then [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► all of a sudden I think mr. Macy [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► realized to say wait a second [TS]

00:51:59 ◼   ► people are coming here now because they [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► trust us because they know will tell the [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► truth even if we don't have what what [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► they go what I will tell you that this [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► was the founding you remember i worked [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► at amazon the early days this was [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► practically the founding principle [TS]

00:52:11 ◼   ► amazon was that was the American 30 [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► registers on it was that your [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► authoritative people think they can come [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► to you and find not only what you need [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► but what you don't have and as long as [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► they believe that they don't go anywhere [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► else right well the the idea that if we [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► don't have it will tell you where you [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► can get instant instead of playing dumb [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► and hoping you buy something that you [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► don't really want and and yeah but [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► that's a whole that's a whole thread in [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► this movie too so there's just a lot of [TS]

00:52:37 ◼   ► interesting and strange stuff that's all [TS]

00:52:40 ◼   ► mashed together and there's the is that [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► Alan Young who's the who's the guy who I [TS]

00:52:45 ◼   ► I forget who it is but they there's the [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► kriss kringle promises the little girl [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► house and then at the end and there's a [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► house in the countryside and we just [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► driving along is like it's all [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► Palestinians it's there it is and now [TS]

00:52:59 ◼   ► ok this is a for-sale wait a second [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► that's his cane [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► yeah because they do the whole he's not [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► magic really he's just a crazy old man [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► or is he right I didn't do such a [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► wonderful four walls [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► oh so so I you know I I really do love [TS]

00:53:14 ◼   ► this movie so I will you know this is a [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► shows the sensibility that I i have in [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► were in marrying mary my wife who has [TS]

00:53:22 ◼   ► such good taste and holiday movies that [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► I I do really love Miracle on [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► thirty-fourth Street because it is that [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► great mixture of kind of oddball weird [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► courtroom drama and there's that there [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► is the the mail room or whatever that's [TS]

00:53:34 ◼   ► the boiler room kind of terrible place [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► and there's just great stuff in it so so [TS]

00:53:38 ◼   ► Miracle on thirty-fourth Street that's [TS]

00:53:40 ◼   ► my selection with some of the best [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► holiday movies the ones that are totally [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► not self-conscious about themselves or [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► that there's no need to explain anything [TS]

00:53:47 ◼   ► this no need to be terribly hip there [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► okay was simply saying yep it's move [TS]

00:53:52 ◼   ► about Santa Claus no please not this is [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► not gonna be a secret twist at the end [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► where turns out that he actually is [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► crazy but everybody decides to fall [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► behind because he's such a good Santa [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► Claus it really is a Santa Claus you [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► have to deal with that we decided to [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► make a movie that will leave you smiling [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► instead of puzzle isn't a little bit [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► tortured yeah yeah exactly right that it [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► is a movie about a guy who is Santa [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► Claus and and he teaches a lot of people [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► little lessons along the way and then [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► there's crazy courtroom antics you well [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► for me it's the epitome of just the [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► perfect Christmas mobile because it's so [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► it's so earnest and it's so earnest that [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► it makes you smile rather like you know [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► there's somewhere it's like oh yeah [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► where were being a little hammy you know [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► get get in the Christmas spirit and this [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► one is just like no let's let's show the [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► Macy's parade [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► let's be adorable and sell it a hundred [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► and ten percent Jason can give out [TS]

00:54:45 ◼   ► shoutouts for honorary nominee yes I was [TS]

00:54:47 ◼   ► going I was going to say now that we've [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► each had a pic i want to i want to say [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► what did we miss [TS]

00:54:52 ◼   ► what what should we mentioned before we [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► go that that we didn't mention yeah we [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► have to we have to mention die hard [TS]

00:54:58 ◼   ► because Stan word is not on the podcast [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► every resource yes yeah and I heart is a [TS]

00:55:03 ◼   ► great film and we did a whole podcast [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► about die hard so dip into the archives [TS]

00:55:07 ◼   ► back to December 2010 and you can find [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► our entire podcast about I'll [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► our languages which is a Christmas movie [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► it is strange that is it is a Christmas [TS]

00:55:16 ◼   ► movie it is possibly best adult [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► christmas movie [TS]

00:55:21 ◼   ► oh now I have a machine gun yes no [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► there's a better adult christmas movie [TS]

00:55:26 ◼   ► which would be bad santa which I don't [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► know if I can watch I'll give a [TS]

00:55:30 ◼   ► shout-out to but it's like that's it's a [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► funny strange horrible horrible film and [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► I don't know if I can ever watch the [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► second time but wow it's it's something [TS]

00:55:39 ◼   ► also for including TV shows i have to [TS]

00:55:43 ◼   ► push out to the sctv christmas special [TS]

00:55:46 ◼   ► wow we're gonna have we're just Johnny [TS]

00:55:49 ◼   ► Larew he has that there are two great [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► stories out of it one of which is Johnny [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► LaRue has to it is at this the whole [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► thing is around the biggest CCTV Network [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► like Christmas party but John Luke and [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► like stay and drink and smoke and he [TS]

00:56:02 ◼   ► wants to because the station manager [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► sending him out to do like a special [TS]

00:56:05 ◼   ► Christmas treat be free just like walk [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► down the street and interviews like [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► people who are just like on the street [TS]

00:56:11 ◼   ► on Christmas Eve late at night doing [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► nothing and he said he's drunk and he's [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► drinking even more and just winds up [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► like alone because the camera crew like [TS]

00:56:20 ◼   ► it's easy it's also the camera crew once [TS]

00:56:22 ◼   ► too often so he's just there sitting in [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► the middle of the snow on the sidewalk [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► with a boom mic to speaking into it it's [TS]

00:56:28 ◼   ► I had Talent [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► I had salad ever tell you this little [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► bigger [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► all I wanted was a crane shot by the [TS]

00:56:37 ◼   ► caviar is it chief scape and then this [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► is going to put this the Christmas magic [TS]

00:56:42 ◼   ► like that glorious like celestial music [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► ahead the camera like pics itself [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► opposite [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► well who are you I'm Santa what's this [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► why it's your crane shot Johnny and [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► their full back to see a beautiful like [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► huge Chapman crane wrapped in christmas [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► lights and the backstories even funnier [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► because I will get the vocoder all the [TS]

00:57:02 ◼   ► details would take a long time to [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► explain but essentially John Candy to [TS]

00:57:07 ◼   ► get back at the producers had [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► intentionally written the most expensive [TS]

00:57:11 ◼   ► sketch that would do that today with the [TS]

00:57:14 ◼   ► this series would ever film not by [TS]

00:57:16 ◼   ► saying oh and there's 8,000 pounds of [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► real goals you have to get us that he [TS]

00:57:20 ◼   ► found every trick to make sure that it [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► would [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► as much as possible including knowing [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► there was only one Chapman crane and in [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► Canada that they have to really get it [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► on a flatbed that have to also pay for [TS]

00:57:32 ◼   ► the person who operated just they could [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► use it as a prop in this sketch but is [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► it was a great skills a great sketch [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► start to finish but does this idea of [TS]

00:57:41 ◼   ► John Candy knowing that I just cost of [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► production eighteen thousand dollars [TS]

00:57:45 ◼   ► more than they thought they were going [TS]

00:57:46 ◼   ► to spend on this five-minute of comedy [TS]

00:57:47 ◼   ► piece i am a happy John Candy of this [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► night really quick for talking christmas [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► TV specials are not necessarily specials [TS]

00:57:54 ◼   ► but Christmas TV shows pretty much all [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► of Aaron circus shows have wonderful [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► wonderful Christmas episodes [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► there's a sort of you yeah and one in [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► particular if for people who have [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► watched the west wing is no well which [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► is deals with one of the characters [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► post-traumatic stress disorder over an [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► event that i will not mention because it [TS]

00:58:13 ◼   ► will spoil the show for people who [TS]

00:58:15 ◼   ► haven't watched the show and if you [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► haven't watched the show [TS]

00:58:18 ◼   ► what's wrong with you go watch it but [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► anyway Aaron Sorkin shows great with [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► christmas specials pisses me off that [TS]