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00:00:03   the incomparable podcast number 76 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/3">TS</a>]

00:00:08   January 2012 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/8">TS</a>]

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00:11:44   human colony but he started out from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/704">TS</a>]

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00:15:32   gonna believe that there's a magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/932">TS</a>]

00:15:33   future in which everybody has 0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/933">TS</a>]

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00:16:09   world uh a realistic video game [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/969">TS</a>]

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00:16:16   that and decided that there may be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/976">TS</a>]

00:16:18   gamma way instead of thinking about his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/978">TS</a>]

00:16:21   other sorry lost track of what he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/981">TS</a>]

00:16:22   waiting he had started different novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/982">TS</a>]

00:16:24   the middle but it's also good novel the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/984">TS</a>]

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00:16:29   different focuses whereas terrain and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   Randy is very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/991">TS</a>]

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00:16:36   spending time talking about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/996">TS</a>]

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00:16:42   game and all about the puzzles in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1002">TS</a>]

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00:16:57   it's time for special guest john [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1017">TS</a>]

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00:17:23   few years which is the girl with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1043">TS</a>]

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00:17:58   machine she should be a billionaire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1078">TS</a>]

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00:18:13   aspects of it that are just right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1093">TS</a>]

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00:18:19   figuring out which was which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1099">TS</a>]

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00:18:26   such specific detail and the the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:29   that always sticks out in my memory is I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:31   think it's from the first book where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1111">TS</a>]

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00:18:59   of hard drive space and ram installed in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1139">TS</a>]

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00:20:26   to administer the voigt-kampff test the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1226">TS</a>]

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00:20:43   unofficial gene hackman sort of plays a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:45   continuation of his character from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1245">TS</a>]

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00:20:59   two techniques are talking in the van [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1259">TS</a>]

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00:21:02   view on on him but he's carrying a bag [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1262">TS</a>]

00:21:05   we want to know what these what's in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1265">TS</a>]

00:21:06   bag but we can't tell because he's in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1266">TS</a>]

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00:21:15   on a 180-degree access to turn around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1275">TS</a>]

00:21:17   and so the other guy goes it can do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:20   and the first guy says it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22   hypothesize which from years my friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:26   and I pretty good throw it can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   hypothesize it's so you can imagine what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:30   might be in the band the other side of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1290">TS</a>]

00:21:32   bag from an image it cannot get but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1292">TS</a>]

00:21:35   also the shower part is that MIT later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:37   some guys did research of technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1297">TS</a>]

00:21:39   that's very much like this that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:40   good like extrapolate what was on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   plane card on the other side of playing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   card it blew my mind I was like oh my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:45   god that's real there is technology that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1305">TS</a>]

00:21:47   can do like they look at the reflections [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1307">TS</a>]

00:21:49   elsewhere and they can kind of back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:50   scatter the light and figure out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:53   was what what I think this is like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:54   looking through the card and figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:56   like the razor equals crazy it is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58   great so so okay we've spent the last 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:01   minutes griping about bad there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:03   of that technology stuff i mean being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1323">TS</a>]

00:22:05   natural expo I would be remiss if I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1325">TS</a>]

00:22:07   didn't mention the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:08   find Sandra Bullock vehicle the net most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:12   notable perhaps for Dennis Miller [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:15   playing an intrepid computer hacker who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1335">TS</a>]

00:22:17   is who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:19   who is horribly killed halfway through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1339">TS</a>]

00:22:20   spoiler alert sorry don't get attached [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:23   to Dennis Miller in the net if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1343">TS</a>]

00:22:24   haven't seen it and we can actually do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:26   Miller here don't worry but but all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1346">TS</a>]

00:22:29   crowd seems in the tech trade show in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1349">TS</a>]

00:22:31   the net are shot at macworld expo I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:34   trivia [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:35   there you go it is macworld expo as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:38   was seen in the nineties is Philip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:39   Michaels in that though that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:40   important no no what is it honey ball I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:43   believe if the processor goes BB below a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1363">TS</a>]

00:22:45   hundred megahertz than the bus exploded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1365">TS</a>]

00:22:47   about bus exploded i was the plot of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   net [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:49   anyway so positive portrayals you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:53   any examples of you know what does it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1373">TS</a>]

00:22:56   right every we cover technology for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:58   living and we also read you know and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1378">TS</a>]

00:23:00   watch movies watch TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   what are the things that you see that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:03   you think you know that's pretty good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1383">TS</a>]

00:23:06   they did a pretty dated a fair job with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:07   that might look go ahead whenever she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1387">TS</a>]

00:23:12   ate you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1392">TS</a>]

00:23:13   I appreciate that and and then will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:15   appreciate this references where you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1395">TS</a>]

00:23:16   take mine i will i will attract [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1396">TS</a>]

00:23:19   hopefully I won't write my my my one was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:22   to saying that I appreciate that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1402">TS</a>]

00:23:24   takes Han Solo a couple minutes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:26   calculate a path through hyperspace that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1406">TS</a>]

00:23:29   it's not just button hyperspace like no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:32   I don't calculate the precise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1412">TS</a>]

00:23:34   coordinates and education and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   all that we could you know why did a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:38   black hole right through hyperspace [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1418">TS</a>]

00:23:40   ain't like Dustin crops boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1420">TS</a>]

00:23:42   oh yeah I was gonna say and this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1422">TS</a>]

00:23:45   another particular relation to where we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1425">TS</a>]

00:23:48   are defined san francisco-based tech [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50   movie sneakers are just my career movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:53   of all time with sneakers and a small [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:54   details aren't always there but i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1434">TS</a>]

00:23:57   the plot which basically involves a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:59   codebreaker that can break any code [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:01   because there is a certain amount of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:03   mathematical they have a scene where a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:06   very very skinny and young Don alok was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:09   a mathematician explains that this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1449">TS</a>]

00:24:11   theory is based on the fact that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1451">TS</a>]

00:24:14   encryption is essentially based on hard [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   mathematical problems where it's really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   easy to multiply two incredibly large [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:20   numbers together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1460">TS</a>]

00:24:21   but it's really hard to then take that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:22   really large number and figure out what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   the original two numbers multiplied work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:25   now basically saying in the movie the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:28   ideas he comes up with an algorithm that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:30   makes it really easy to find out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1470">TS</a>]

00:24:32   then it turns it into a computer chip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1472">TS</a>]

00:24:33   and it gets used to decrypt pretty much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35   any system which is great i love it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:37   because it's kind of it's it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:39   exactly like a high-stakes thing but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:42   is at the same time because it's just a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:43   computer chip but it has all these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1483">TS</a>]

00:24:46   implications the implications that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1486">TS</a>]

00:24:47   interesting and so there are a couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   great scenes where they use it to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   the code information there's also my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:53   favorite scene ever which is involves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1493">TS</a>]

00:24:54   Robert Redford you know trying to break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:57   into their office and he looks like this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1497">TS</a>]

00:24:58   are the same i remember how to a to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:00   break a beating electronic keypad lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1500">TS</a>]

00:25:02   he listens for a minute uh-huh uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:05   uh-huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   all right i'll give it a try and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:08   kicks the door in here that worked like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1508">TS</a>]

00:25:11   that for me that was one of my favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:12   moments and technology / Robert Redford [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:15   foot kick the door in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:17   hey sometimes the brute force approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1517">TS</a>]

00:25:18   works so yes mine so I was a big fan of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:23   defying gravity a short-lived TV series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:25   of american canadian co-production that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:29   because i thought it was beautifully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:30   shot so expensively I think they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:32   couldn't continue to make this therapies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:34   in light of the even though joint [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   production but what they did is they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   took a world that was slightly in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:40   future not ridiculously far i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:42   was only living less than a hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:43   years the technology was beautifully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1543">TS</a>]

00:25:45   plotted ahead so they're going on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:48   grand voyage among all the planets it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:50   turned out to be a non sinister benign [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1550">TS</a>]

00:25:52   plots that was hidden from everyone to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1552">TS</a>]

00:25:54   spend a trillion dollars to do this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:56   grand mission and learn and so forth and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1556">TS</a>]

00:25:58   it gets a little involved as to why but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   all the technology involved was only a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   mild extrapolation but it was beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:04   so this ship they made they had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1564">TS</a>]

00:26:06   extensive hydroponics and and so forth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   and they figured out very carefully [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:09   there will be some real problems if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11   didn't get this balance just right one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:14   episode this pit where they think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:15   right at the Forgotten a tipping point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   is a term for it overlooked range [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   whatever there's a term for where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:20   reached where after that point they do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1580">TS</a>]

00:26:22   not have enough you'll return without [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1582">TS</a>]

00:26:24   reaching the next planet where they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:25   able to harvest fuel or what have you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   and the have a water filtration problem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:30   and it's not presented on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:31   it's a plumbing issue is presented as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   serious thing it's actually crux of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:34   plot element and it's exactly what would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:37   happen on that kind of mission is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:38   we see nuns on some missions in orbit or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:41   to space shuttles that have occurred and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   what they presented in a matter-of-fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:45   way that you been accepted so much you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1605">TS</a>]

00:26:48   willing to take so much you can focus on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:50   the story and deal with some of the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1610">TS</a>]

00:26:52   mystical elements that were off to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1612">TS</a>]

00:26:53   side that's good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:56   it was cancelled like most are thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1616">TS</a>]

00:26:59   backline I fallen short [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1619">TS</a>]

00:27:02   I have a liked it was cancelled i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:04   bunch of movies that I think do science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1624">TS</a>]

00:27:06   right i mean the maybe the most obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:08   of them is really science fiction so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   much but we were talking about your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:12   genius upon and no real Jesus those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:14   lasers are real man they weren't really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:17   used in real genius they use the real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:19   key programmer alright okay i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1639">TS</a>]

00:27:21   like it out what you're gonna tell us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1641">TS</a>]

00:27:23   little bit about real you you're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:24   make me without real you know real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1644">TS</a>]

00:27:26   genius does actually not do a bad job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28   showing science in action and that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:30   isn't like they just kind of like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1650">TS</a>]

00:27:31   scribble some things up and flip the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:33   switch and it works there's like they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:34   doing laser research and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   frustrated there at Pacific tech which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   is just a disguise Caltech and it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:41   through that they go through a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:42   frustration and there's a a great moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:44   of the Eureka moment where val kilmer is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1664">TS</a>]

00:27:48   really upset that his laser is exploded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:50   because the nefarious races wearing Kent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:54   has put smudge the lens and it causes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:56   conflagration in the laser lab and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   goes out into his dorm a kitchenette and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:01   kicks the kicks the refrigerator open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:04   because he's just kicking everything and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   the liquid nitrogen comes out and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   realizes that he could use liquid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:10   nitrogen to freeze the material that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:13   using to make the laser in it and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1693">TS</a>]

00:28:15   and then he runs to the lab and you seem [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1695">TS</a>]

00:28:17   kind of working it out and and it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:19   kind of a neat moment to show that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1699">TS</a>]

00:28:21   science takes hard work and it also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1701">TS</a>]

00:28:23   takes sleeps and this is a movie that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   not afraid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:26   multiple times to show montages set to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1706">TS</a>]

00:28:30   music it was the eighties where people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1710">TS</a>]

00:28:32   are studying or they're learning how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   fire lasers or he's training in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:37   slaughterhouse right with that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1717">TS</a>]

00:28:39   that's real genius right II that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:42   only runs up the stairs you may be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:43   thinking over there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1723">TS</a>]

00:28:44   and let me also say less science [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:47   accurate use of the haze command 80 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49   man's memory he's about 80 command 8183 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:54   currently deployed and there is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:57   climactic and really not very good scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1737">TS</a>]

00:28:59   where there's a fake plane that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01   badly dubbed into the scene they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:05   remove a rom and replace it with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:08   instructions burned onto an eeprom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1748">TS</a>]

00:29:10   programmable read-only memory and use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   that to swap in which was surprisingly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14   accurate but yet yet this is what I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:16   gonna say I was gonna mention Apollo 13 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:18   which i think is a great job of showing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1758">TS</a>]

00:29:19   real science in action which you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:21   and the computers and they end the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:24   resourcefulness of the scientists uh i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:26   was going to it's not entirely a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1766">TS</a>]

00:29:28   computer movie but i wanted to throw out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1768">TS</a>]

00:29:30   some money ball which is a an Oscar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1770">TS</a>]

00:29:33   nominee which i think if you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1773">TS</a>]

00:29:35   seen it even if you're not a baseball [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1775">TS</a>]

00:29:36   fan I think you might like it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:37   that's a movie that's really about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   people using numbers and using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:42   techniques to understand things and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:45   meeting resistance from people who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:47   haven't analyzed things that closely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1787">TS</a>]

00:29:49   they've got an old way of thinking and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   it's very strange because it's a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:52   about ideas and I'm not really surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1792">TS</a>]

00:29:54   it has gotten the reception it has and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:56   that got nominated for best picture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1796">TS</a>]

00:29:57   because it's you know nothing happens in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1797">TS</a>]

00:30:01   it other than people change their minds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   it's you know and their hearts and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:06   would know just their minds their hearts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:08   are not involved at all and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:10   caption settings 10 minute but and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:13   other one would be contact the jury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:15   foster sci-fi movie which is from Carl [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17   Sagan's famous area and therefore his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:19   rigorous and there are lots of really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1819">TS</a>]

00:30:21   nice bits in there about space even yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:23   they create a spaceship that opens a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:25   dimensional portal but there's a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1825">TS</a>]

00:30:26   time spent like in the search for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:27   extraterrestrial intelligence where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1827">TS</a>]

00:30:29   they're searching for signals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   they've got a process the signals and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:33   they've been doing it a long time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1833">TS</a>]

00:30:35   then the truth of engineering where they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1835">TS</a>]

00:30:37   build a two of everything because why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:39   build one when you can build two for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41   twice the price is the historical how to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:43   get the sign-off from japan which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   totally realistic so yeah we'll to these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47   things and one gets old boiler one gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   blown up you are you see that coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:52   you forgot i didn't like 10 years ago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:54   that dogs gonna die no one got the Old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:58   Yeller dies in Old Yeller I'm sorry you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1858">TS</a>]

00:31:00   forgot you forgot a the movie hackers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1860">TS</a>]

00:31:02   now you because you didn't with a way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:05   Jewish you could forget the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   hackers we all do with a not-so-good you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:09   see that it's not it has a that's some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:11   terrible terrible represent all right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1871">TS</a>]

00:31:12   since since we're at macworld should we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:14   talk a little bit about your favorite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16   portrayals of the mac or the iphone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:17   the ipad and in the in thing is your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1877">TS</a>]

00:31:20   client you want to savage something or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:21   press apply and I have a very quick one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:23   which is in the original Charlie's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1883">TS</a>]

00:31:25   Angels movie which way original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:28   charlie's angels but you've confused me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1888">TS</a>]

00:31:30   how many are there three or four but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1890">TS</a>]

00:31:32   was the TV show and then they made the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1892">TS</a>]

00:31:33   movies like The Drew Barrymore doing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:35   anything another TV super boring and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   that's what I'm talking about that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39   series and so in that way in that movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:40   where she plays a copy editor for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42   magazine in chicago or that newspaper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   Chicago copy editors do not have their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:46   own offices with around secretaries I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   sorry that's I think you're thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50   organizations are exactly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:52   journalists on this rental is alright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1912">TS</a>]

00:31:54   sorry so there's that scene in the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   where is I don't know who is it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:58   strong down on wires and she flips over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1918">TS</a>]

00:32:01   and she's going to the main frame at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1921">TS</a>]

00:32:02   Oracle like the larry ellison run evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:05   company it's very thinly veiled the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:07   trailer else and i believe and she gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1927">TS</a>]

00:32:09   in there and it's buttons and things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   open up and just you and what comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:14   i believe is a to CX motherboard which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:17   she pulls some chip out of and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   closes back up that pretty sure I owned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:22   a computer with that motherboard of it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1942">TS</a>]

00:32:25   hope so since you recognize it on screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1945">TS</a>]

00:32:27   and I actually a very recent movie I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:31   gotta give props and a little bit of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1951">TS</a>]

00:32:33   finger wagging to which is the latest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1953">TS</a>]

00:32:35   Mission Impossible movie which has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   vertical yes ghost protocol which has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:40   great i use of an ipad as a using an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:43   ipad app and what mile or is it some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:46   sort of reflective virtual reality [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:49   screen they put up and they basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1969">TS</a>]

00:32:53   use the ipad to render out a you use the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1973">TS</a>]

00:32:56   iPad camera they position it and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1976">TS</a>]

00:32:59   ipad camera sees whatever is behind them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   and tries to render the hallway they put [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:04   up like a speak screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1984">TS</a>]

00:33:05   I got like a slideshow screen type thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   like one of these and then they project [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:08   from behind a picture of the hallway as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1988">TS</a>]

00:33:11   it was when they were not there and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13   they slowly like to push up the screen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:15   and walk behind it and it uses the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   kind of 3d technology that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:18   trying anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1998">TS</a>]

00:33:19   ya know it's it's true but at that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:22   that was fun there are a couple of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:24   I very funny moments they try and break [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:26   into a mainframe it gets really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:28   hot and they acknowledge the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2008">TS</a>]

00:33:30   all of these computers yeah probably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2010">TS</a>]

00:33:32   going to burn you alive if you touch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2012">TS</a>]

00:33:33   them because it's just all the steam you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   shut down the fan probably not great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   great idea and that they have of course [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:40   the the moment where it's you know it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2020">TS</a>]

00:33:42   a Mission Impossible movie but not to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2022">TS</a>]

00:33:44   spoil it I i did like the ipad scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:47   they are i want to give a credit to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2027">TS</a>]

00:33:50   was very interesting is years ago they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52   would show like people who want phones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:54   they want you things they would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2034">TS</a>]

00:33:55   liked fake you know like we talked about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:58   the media West thing on the phone what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2038">TS</a>]

00:33:59   funny is now all the phones are iphones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:01   on any TV show where they need to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2041">TS</a>]

00:34:02   something although i really enjoy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:04   few episodes i've seen of various things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2044">TS</a>]

00:34:06   where you can tell someone's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:08   holding it upside down it was more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2048">TS</a>]

00:34:09   apparent back with the original iphone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   had the black bottom in the silver [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:12   casing but you definitely catch they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:13   were trying to cover the logo right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2053">TS</a>]

00:34:15   because they often obscure the apple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2055">TS</a>]

00:34:16   logo and so he would hold the phone up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   specific threat as a laugh everytime i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:20   see that my favorite MAC usage in a TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2060">TS</a>]

00:34:23   show i think is Veronica Mars the late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:25   lamented show about a young woman who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2065">TS</a>]

00:34:28   a private investigator because she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:30   frequently used macs on that show and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:31   they almost always use actual footage of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:34   the OS doing things copying files [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2074">TS</a>]

00:34:36   whatsoever so there's an episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2076">TS</a>]

00:34:38   Friends where Chandler is reading a copy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2078">TS</a>]

00:34:40   of mac or that's right there is one with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2080">TS</a>]

00:34:43   dark world he hits the title is the one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:46   with one where Chandler is laying on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:47   couch reading macworld and it's the it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:50   the sea jobs returns to apple issue of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2090">TS</a>]

00:34:52   macworld and I remember it because that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:54   was about two months before i started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:55   working in Macworld i worked at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:57   competition and I remember being so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2097">TS</a>]

00:35:00   angry that macro was on an episode of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2100">TS</a>]

00:35:03   friends and now I look back and like and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:04   that's cool backgrounds and friends but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2104">TS</a>]

00:35:07   my favorite mean my favorite MAC in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09   media moment is definitely Scotty from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:12   Star Trek for inventing uh inventing a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:16   complicated molecular structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2116">TS</a>]

00:35:18   transparent using using only the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2118">TS</a>]

00:35:20   original mac keyboard because that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2120">TS</a>]

00:35:23   how you build complex molecular models [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25   is by typing well before you try to use [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:27   Siri used VI mouse but but it does say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2127">TS</a>]

00:35:31   something about Syrian about speaking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33   two devices that Scotty's plan like they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:36   do on the enterprise when they talk to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:37   the computer as he picks up the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:38   mouse is a low computer and the computer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:41   doesn't answer because it's an original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:43   mac and I looking back that movie was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2143">TS</a>]

00:35:46   not that long after the original Matt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2146">TS</a>]

00:35:48   came out so it's it's early days it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2148">TS</a>]

00:35:50   amazing they have the ability to build [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:51   transparent aluminum in mac paint was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:56   gaudy is advanced he's from huge reward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:58   how primitive i bet i was like he wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2158">TS</a>]

00:36:00   the code to do it and that was what he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   was typing and then it just came out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04   because he was from the future i think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:07   it's interesting issue about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:08   portrayal of technology and media that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:10   actual technology can be extremely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2170">TS</a>]

00:36:12   tedious and so you have to spice it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   right so the NSA is a great thing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:17   three days of the Condor terrific [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2177">TS</a>]

00:36:18   terrific robbery referee maybe it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20   fantastic so many ways one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22   that's most kind of terrifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   interesting about that movie and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:26   it turned out to be true in interviewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:28   period is what is Robert Redford ooh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30   he's a CIA a semi covert analysts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:33   examined you just read stuff all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2193">TS</a>]

00:36:34   time that's what they do in the office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:35   and they read and analyze the wrong [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:37   thing and that's what the NSA spends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:39   most of its time doing the National [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:41   Reconnaissance Office and with the mic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2201">TS</a>]

00:36:42   still on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:43   wait what's what and most of them aren't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2203">TS</a>]

00:36:45   doing it like it's just an office [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   building in the middle of New York City [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:48   that's right well it was a brownstone it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2208">TS</a>]

00:36:50   was hit but is most of the work done in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   that space is to look at massive amounts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:55   of information not individually pull out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:58   patterns decipher its extremely it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2218">TS</a>]

00:37:00   be very interesting in particular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2220">TS</a>]

00:37:01   especially if you're crippled up to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:03   apologist but it's a cryptogram her but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2223">TS</a>]

00:37:04   it's a crypto biologists that's a whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:07   other story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:07   cryptozoology took this long as Bigfoot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:09   over the NRA but the but the orange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2229">TS</a>]

00:37:12   things like you know it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:13   technology i went to Facebook's data [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2233">TS</a>]

00:37:15   centers is the data center in Prineville [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17   Oregon a few months ago which was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:19   exciting and interesting and bizarre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2239">TS</a>]

00:37:20   because its row after over 10 equipment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:23   there's nothing interesting there I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:24   could see some kind of saw like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:26   tomato mystery murder like a horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2246">TS</a>]

00:37:29   movie set in a datacenter absolutely why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:31   not but it's nothing you do you open up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2251">TS</a>]

00:37:32   like look at all these amazing glowing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:34   lights like nothing spinning amazing SS [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2254">TS</a>]

00:37:36   commandant always it's all the rack that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:39   would be such a great climax to a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   to have much like a a chase and shootout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43   people pulling like blade servers out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:45   using them to play i could happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47   eventually the Mission Impossible movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:49   they're gonna fight in the dataset [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:50   indignity and yet with people around the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   globe the heroes would pull the thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:53   out and swing the computer to to hurt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:55   someone and someone in peoria my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2275">TS</a>]

00:37:57   pictures just disappeared with mono huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2277">TS</a>]

00:38:00   strong boxes down what's going to ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:02   to start looking into getting hit by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2282">TS</a>]

00:38:04   cloud really hurts [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2284">TS</a>]

00:38:07   you're gonna have to get points for that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09   lets people I i think i was shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:12   sometimes I think the best use of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   technology in in fiction is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:17   extrapolation of what we've got now and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19   what that means for the future and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21   that's what I love about science fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:22   that's involved in in in technology i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:25   just read a couple of books by charles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:27   stross which are you know I have my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2307">TS</a>]

00:38:30   issues with them but they weren't the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2310">TS</a>]

00:38:31   most exciting books to read but what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:33   really liked about it is him trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2313">TS</a>]

00:38:34   extrapolate uh our current technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:37   out 20 years and say you know imagine if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:40   the police have a enhance reality of you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2320">TS</a>]

00:38:42   with all of their policing data and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2322">TS</a>]

00:38:46   there's more surveillance of people and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:48   he's trying to project out what that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2328">TS</a>]

00:38:50   means and it means things like anything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   you say the police is logged and can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   always be retrieved later and you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:56   and how does that change the police and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:58   how does that change how people interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2338">TS</a>]

00:38:59   with the police and i love i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   looking at think it's obvious we got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   this stuff now where are we going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   in 10-15 years we left out one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:07   best ones which is the one ever wants to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:09   talk about which is minority report [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2349">TS</a>]

00:39:10   right because we're all thinking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:11   minority report you'll have the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13   you'll be able to gesture around and do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15   things in the air and arm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:18   I mean that technology does now sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2358">TS</a>]

00:39:19   existing microsoft kinect do stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:21   that's very much like that it's pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:22   cool but I just made up the Arab make [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:25   sure and make sure what that's like if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:26   you're just using your computer home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2366">TS</a>]

00:39:28   I really need to put together my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2368">TS</a>]

00:39:29   newsletter for my family so may get some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:31   pictures alright text and email it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2371">TS</a>]

00:39:34   and send it and it's cut two doctors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2374">TS</a>]

00:39:37   office dockets it on my back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2377">TS</a>]

00:39:39   killing it tore my rotator cuff ya how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:41   did you do that i was sending an email [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2381">TS</a>]

00:39:43   scrapbooking yeah okay Oh touchscreen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:47   imax not a good idea how massive massive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:51   gesture just your basic interfaces we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:54   are almost out of time so before I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:57   you look surprised did it fly by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2397">TS</a>]

00:39:59   do you have more it's very like an evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:01   you have I I before we go i'm just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:05   wondering if there's anything that we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:07   left out that we should talk about about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:08   where technology built a big doctor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2408">TS</a>]

00:40:10   plans on this stage and a time machine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12   technology has not yet been invented so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:14   what's on your sort of hilarious that of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2414">TS</a>]

00:40:16   all the things eventually we don't like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:17   with like everything in doctor who is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   ridiculous i'm going to accept that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:20   isn't that the trick is that it is once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:23   you start to purport to be real and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2423">TS</a>]

00:40:25   start putting the details it goes back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:26   to authors wanting to show their work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2426">TS</a>]

00:40:28   and say hi does research about this and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   now i will show it to you which one can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:32   be really boring and too can be really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2432">TS</a>]

00:40:34   annoying if they get it wrong because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:35   they need to get it wrong for plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:37   purposes and it's much better if they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:39   just either say something like Doctor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:41   Who which is completely ridiculous and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2441">TS</a>]

00:40:42   just like there's a guy with a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44   machine it's bigger on the inside like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:45   all right or it's like suffice to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2445">TS</a>]

00:40:47   like what you said about ready player [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2447">TS</a>]

00:40:49   one suffice it to say there's an online [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:50   world and it's a game and let me tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:53   you my story now and I'm not gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:54   probably ready player one is that first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:56   chapter really gets into details that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2456">TS</a>]

00:40:58   really rather actually not know and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:00   have him say trust me it's a virtual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2460">TS</a>]

00:41:03   world and then there's a story I'm going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:06   to tell you and thatthat's better it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:07   like once they get into the details then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2467">TS</a>]

00:41:09   there then then it's boring and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11   going to get them wrong with Willy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:13   wobbly timey-wimey as we exactly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2473">TS</a>]

00:41:15   grandeur the fantasy and the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:18   ridiculous the technology and the better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:20   the story the more likely i am to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2480">TS</a>]

00:41:22   believe it if its present day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:24   NCIS let's enhance the video it becomes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:28   ooh far less sense yes no enhance more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2488">TS</a>]

00:41:31   intense again I'm if it's not if it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   set 3,000 years in the future and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35   they're on a spaceship and certain [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   things I'm willing to let certain things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:38   go in the name of plot no yeah nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2498">TS</a>]

00:41:41   bothered me more than seeing Jack Bauer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:42   with his palm treo that had like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2502">TS</a>]

00:41:44   instantaneous live video gps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:47   collaboration with the people back at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:49   the CTU they have released that model [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   it wouldn't have had to sell themselves [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:52   yeah the guys from honestly if palm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2512">TS</a>]

00:41:55   could do what they did on 24 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:57   homewood on all of us now that's why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2517">TS</a>]

00:41:59   John Lewis very dating world is going on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01   the village street now he's gonna create [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   the CTU operating system for terror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05   counterterrorism exactly he's getting I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:08   media for media TV that another well now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2528">TS</a>]

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00:42:26   to our selves and and macrolife stage [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2546">TS</a>]

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00:42:31   think we're ok now has stephen fry ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:34   miss you see fries a good user of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36   technology seems like he's trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:38   steal all the work by doing everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2558">TS</a>]

00:42:40   and writing technology reviews also he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:42   so talented in so many other ways he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:44   needs to leave our business alive I want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2564">TS</a>]

00:42:46   demarcation I'll tell you demarcation as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:49   long as he doesn't become the voice of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:50   wikipedia and therefore become the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:52   actual hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2572">TS</a>]

00:42:53   i will be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   yeah although he said it's funny if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:56   don't know stephen Fry's not only a huge [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:58   apple fan but he-he's gets invited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00   apple events now so we were at the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:02   to launch writer was the original is an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2582">TS</a>]

00:43:04   original iPad and original iPad were all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:07   their kind of blown away by the original [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2587">TS</a>]

00:43:08   iPad we're getting a look at it because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:09   it's not going to be out for a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2589">TS</a>]

00:43:10   while and and stephen fry is there its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2590">TS</a>]

00:43:15   special ok it's what why are you here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:18   it's what it's like and he's carrying on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20   from his friend Douglas Adams who was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:21   big mac fan ever and douglas adams one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2601">TS</a>]

00:43:23   of the great things about him was both [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2603">TS</a>]

00:43:25   his willingness to write in technology [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:27   when it made sense about contemporary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2607">TS</a>]

00:43:29   stuff and make up all kinds of things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:31   that weren't relevant didn't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2611">TS</a>]

00:43:32   show his work well with the checkers are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:34   like that without you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2614">TS</a>]

00:43:35   the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:36   beauty of that is that you know that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2616">TS</a>]

00:43:38   prefiguring wikipedia in many ways and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:41   in the ipad and the idea had and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   great and I and the one of the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:46   terrible things about him having having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2626">TS</a>]

00:43:49   died so young is that God would love to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:51   see douglas adams take on a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:54   modern technology especially something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:55   like Wikipedia which I just know there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:58   is some incredible humor for him to mind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00   from it that we know that we're never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:02   going to see but we do have the checkers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:03   guide [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:04   what we do know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2644">TS</a>]

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00:44:08   that note I think we will close up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10   annual tradition of us sitting up here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:13   and saying things randomly live in front [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:15   of an audience I would like to thank my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17   guests Dan Morgan thank you very much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2657">TS</a>]

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00:44:25   here it's not always apply ok thank you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27   i want to clarify serenity call well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2667">TS</a>]

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00:44:31   always a pleasure to have you here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2671">TS</a>]

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00:44:35   this couch but I love being on this part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2675">TS</a>]

00:44:36   is i was gonna make you to stay here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   overnight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2678">TS</a>]

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00:44:43   stage home and Glenn fleischmann thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2683">TS</a>]

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00:44:47   pressing us with your presence please [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2687">TS</a>]

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00:44:52   joined us screaming on the internet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2692">TS</a>]

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00:45:03   front of an audience that go somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2703">TS</a>]

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00:45:06   to be uncomfortable which you can find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:07   at the incomparable not calm until next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2707">TS</a>]

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00:45:12   time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMbwVXHE/2712">TS</a>]

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