89: Also Known as Endor
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the incomparable podcast number 89 made
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went well
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we're back on the uncomfortable when you
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last heard us we were talking about
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return of the jedi and it true to form
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we've got about 42 minutes into the
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movie and it took us an hour to get
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there but we're back to talk about the
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rest of return of the jedi and joining
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me as they did in our previous
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installment are my guess is already
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called well hello hello
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many Bothans died to bring me here damn
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Warren is also joining us hi Dan
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oh I think you find this podcast is
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totally operate I Jason and and John
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siracusa if the trap the emperor has
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made a critical error in this podcast
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continues if critical critical area and
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i don't think i mentioned i'm jason sell
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your host and we had we had last week
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sort of like Yoda and Ben had had goaded
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I'd and Ben Kenobi had proven that he
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was kind of a liar from a certain point
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I think ironically enough that is
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actually where my where the laserdisc
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you have to flip it flip it over there
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it's not quite halfway through but it's
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it's you know we're making our way
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it's an act break so when we when we
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move to the next the next scene we are
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back in a it's essentially Death Star
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university again we're back with a with
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the rebels we have a briefing annan they
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have a plan involving going to the
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forest moon of Endor they have way
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better Holograms this time and what's
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funny is this is really setting up the
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action the rest of this movie is one big
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sequence of parallel action things based
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on this raid on Death Star so we've got
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here we got admiral ackbar who appears
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who will who will later discovered that
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it's a trap but here he doesn't know it
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yet and he gives a briefing and they can
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see that dog opening the forest moon of
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Endor is anyone else confused about the
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i was confused for many years before the
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internet set me straight about what
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well well well the internets a suit
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scared straight about Endor hit you know
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endures referred to what what it is the
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forest moon of Endor is referred to by
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seven different things is end or the
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name of the planet the moon is it
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orbiting is under the name of the Moon
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what is the name of the planets orbiting
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it's very confusing in this movie I
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think basically because they didn't
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think it through because if you if you
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look on the internet you will learn the
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truth and the truth is all so confusing
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and bake which is to say that endures
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actually some other planet
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I assume that the indoor is like a gas
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like a gas giant and and this is a moon
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that's forested and circles around the
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gas giant planet of Endor that right so
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here's what the width look at the
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wookieepedia eight-wicket wikipedia or
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Wikipedia what's the wikipedia says
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endure in parentheses also known as the
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forest moon of Endor and the sanctuary
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moon was a small parcel moon orbiting
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the gas giant planet Endor haha
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Jason was surprised so how can endure be
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a small forest moon orbiting the giant
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gas giant planet of Endor it's like
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endure to the end or two like you like
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you having for technically it's not
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endure that was the forest moon of Endor
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it is the planet endorse forest moon the
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sanctuary moon of Endor but basically
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the sentence says that end or is
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orbiting indoor well I think it's
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commonly called and/or but it's not
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actually and/or exactly that's why it's
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confusing because the short-term rentals
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buffalo Buffalo buffalo yeah the
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shortened version of the name refers to
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the thing that is orbiting yes which i
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always like to throw back to a at
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there's the it's a moon that's the moon
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his moon
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nevermind it's a modern and endure
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endure as Liz mentioned in the Bible far
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there's eight there's a witch a witch of
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endor do you mean George Lucas got his
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name's from other pieces of literature
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and and plain English words Elyon
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sleazebag oh no I mean that clearly this
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was a long time ago and that's the Bible
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took inspiration a story from universe
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far far away see if there is the rank or
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monster you see rank or also also
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there's the is that is the doctor robot
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from empire in this seem too or is it
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just another yes the back to the back to
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robot is standing in the back he hasn't
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people seriously we got out he got out
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of Hazor they went back for him later
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and tell where there's another one
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because they're draw his
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mass-produced yeah i like to think that
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it's the same guy is like boy they got
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me out of there that's good i didn't
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want to work for the Empire I like the
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book the good guys and the bad guys have
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British officers seems it seems fair
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yeah I'm British Empire well I enjoy uh
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I enjoyed my favorite being you know we
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have mon mothma comes out here right
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never addressed my name but she comes
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out she talks a little bit she looks
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very sad when she talks about how
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boffins died and then she's like Admiral
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Ackbar please an admiral ackbar walks
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out now if you watch her expressions is
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entirely and she's staring at admiral
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ackbar being like what the hell is wrong
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with that guy great it he's got a squid
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head there's just one I talked like okay
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very vaguely freaked out and I read an
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interview with that actress at some
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point was just going I didn't know what
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the hell is going on the key select ok i
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went up there and said them another guy
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with a fish he came up so I i mentioned
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this on twitter I'll mention here
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there's a really funny podcast with Joe
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Posnanski his sports writer and can and
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can't tremendous I should call Michael
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sure who's the showrunner for the NBC
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sitcom parks and recreation and they did
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a they did a a a pad podcast where they
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among other things silly drafts not
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saying that that was an inspiration but
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hundreds on trying to shift the blame i
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love podcast with silly drafts anyway
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they did a silly draft of their favorite
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Star Wars characters which was which was
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funny and i'll put in the show notes and
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I i recommend to the last first asked
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about baseball in the second half is
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about Star Wars characters i recommend
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the second half for people who listen to
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the uncomfortable and if you like
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baseball you know you can listen the
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first have to but what what Mike sure
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makes the makes the point it at about
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this seam is that is Han really helping
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morale here as a general first off
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everybody's in general right Lando is
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Lando is a general own hey hey
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someone told them about his little
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maneuver at the battle of the NAB yeah
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but but I mean he's in a room full of
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people and they're planning this
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potentially suicide mission and he's got
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a cape Jason and I general material
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right there so so so they're the scary
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mission and on SaLuSa their guard
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well I wouldn't want to be the guy who
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has to do that blah
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who's the sucker is gonna do that
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mission but that's just so they can flip
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it around later to show how brave hungry
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he is I know you made that comment he
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volunteered for the most dangerous
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mission you know she's always making
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comments about how he's gonna leave and
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how he's just tell ya I suppose you
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could leave the fighters if you're a was
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he he is actually when you watch it I I
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think it's really funny i can I had to
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watch it with that context after hearing
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that podcast but it is sort of shot as
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if it's it's really hon just given the
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needle to Lando like there really a word
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and everything else is going on around
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him and he's like war you know who's the
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sucker who is going to do that one right
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knee just setting up his be his buddy
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but it is funny because Han Solo you
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know he's a mount content he's always
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gonna be that roguish guy he's going to
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be making his jokes and people might die
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but he's gonna make his jokes as its Han
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Solo and i love the relationship between
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him and Lando right like you know
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because we finally hit sort of an
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equilibrium where Lando sold him out and
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then you know Lando help rescue him and
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he rescues Lando from being sucked into
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the Sarlacc and so they finally have
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sort of gotten back to the even footing
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that they were on supposedly when we
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first meet him in Empire both both more
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redeemed than they were
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yeah they were both like smugglers and
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scoundrels and now they're more
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respectable and general respectable part
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of the rebellion that they both seem to
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believe
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who'da thunk it a parent who would like
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to be general then you're a general is
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that there's three and an admiral but i
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love you know that's it of course we get
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the setup in the foreshadowing for later
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and then this you know is a popular
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urban legend right that Lando was
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supposed to guy was not engine as the
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truth no it's not
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I looked this up because i remember that
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as well and it is actually been denied
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by pretty much everybody involved in it
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in any way saying that he was not
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supposed to die although hot Harrison
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Ford tried to convince Lucas to kill Han
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Solo yeah well I we have to wait for the
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return of the jedi version of those
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giant hardcover making out books before
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all the yeah well that's fair that's
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because I've got the new I've got the
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new hope one and got the Empire one that
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they're pretty darn scholarly work so
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that will set the record straight but
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I've also read that that yet that was
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sort of a long-running began their
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people argued oh if you look close you
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can see the fire going around the
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cockpit of money fun at the end it blows
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up and i am personally blown up many
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many times in that Death Star escape and
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oh yeah we're talking super super super
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return of the jedi cuz
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a hard freeze I'm talking the gamecube
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game which was brutally hard to get
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through those tunnels into the center
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that starting back down brutally hard
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time thinking about I'm thinking about
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the super nintendo one which was also
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pretty damn hard road later on the
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Gamecube i believe ya road later I
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played that many a day I like the I like
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the fact that he has the just got this
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funny feeling I'm never going to see her
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again kinda kind of thing because that's
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the that is your typical setup
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40 something something Bad's gonna
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happen and it doesn't happen but by by
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setting it out there
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it almost does by setting it out there
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makes you worried right you're like oh
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no not not a scratch he loses the radar
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dish I gotta promise to school yeah a
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big scratch
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well none of the parts that are left on
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her are scratched quickly she came out
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flogged never notice so that yeah so the
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the Emperor dismisses Vader and sends it
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back to the command ship and and there's
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this really chilling scene where Luke
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just looking at the at the ship and says
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papers on the ship
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I'm endangering the mission right where
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it's like he can sense me and you known
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that from the end of empire though
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really yeah exactly right materials
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because he was like passing out
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yeah yeah so that it's great because
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first off it really ups the stakes
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you're like oh man he's gonna he's gonna
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sense faders going to sense the Lucas
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there and then it sets up the fact that
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that the Empire is on to them and this
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is not happening because they're
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outsmarting the Empire and so there that
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you're waiting for the hammer to be
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dropped on our friends little mission
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which we just learned about right we're
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ready to go for the mission and it goes
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bad immediately immediately it's like I
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leave them to me
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better let them land it says yeah I i
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totally notice them but let them land
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yeah I'll take care of them the and
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so-and-so that and then you also the
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Emperor moving the ordering the fleet to
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be moved and and so it's setup from the
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beginning like this is it's a trap right
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now this is a setup they are screwed
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it's going to go badly which I love
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because you know what's the same thing
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we just saw with Luke right where he's
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like all the way down in the in the
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depths of like oh my god how is he ever
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gonna get out of this with java right
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except now they don't have
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a plan right now it's just that the plan
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is going away right we heard their
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planet we didn't know what the plan was
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with the job escape because there was
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all secret dress but now we were in on
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the planning meeting and we know this is
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all there is to the plan and there's
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rack to know
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yeah it's wrecked so instead of being
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like oh you know it's going well so far
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but I know something bad is gonna happen
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because of drama instead it's like no no
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it's it's going it's blown and they
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don't know what yet it is the Hitchcock
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thing where the audience knows that but
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yeah yeah which i think is very
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effective I i think it's a very
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effective thing in this movie but we
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immediately know that the Empire and
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Darth Vader have have it over our
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friends from the from the beginning
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they've got it and it makes it makes a
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han Solo look even more like hapless
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this is what this is what so adorable
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that Han Solo that he's got all the
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swagger and everything but you know he's
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the key is competent but there's a
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little bit of like you know he's making
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it up its finer on you know he's flying
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by the seat of his pants don't look like
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you're keeping a distance I don't know
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fly casual like that just by casuals are
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and again and you know the whole time
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did already knows they're there but like
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he's trying his best that's all
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well I love it not only does he says
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Luke right but like they like oh yeah
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where you head for oh yeah we got parts
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for the forest moon like anybody would
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metal ions will be like that's totally
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Han Solo just yeah right
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you sound like Harrison Ford be any
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antigens Mitchell had a layup put on her
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little helmet that he got that looks
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outfit here that the the forest camo he
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again it looks like I mean this would be
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more like it
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it looks like he's from Flashdance he's
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working like this big like a sarong
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against me as far as camouflage yeah
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well I tonsil gets a camouflaged trench
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coat and and he's wearing like a sorry
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it's not
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yeah he basically ends up looking varies
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wearing the exact same thing layers
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where Jeff the dress the twins alive
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stop doing that content sadly Luke takes
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it takes a woman's small so what he had
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to wear that was what they the size they
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had even think he's coming along the
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mission
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it takes it off pretty soon he gets back
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to good old priest look that we want the
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other so this movie that's what we want
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alright so we're on the forest moon of
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Endor may which may we also known a
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scant or or or not we're a group of
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Marines and security Witt again no run
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removing although that would wouldn't
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avatar been something that they're
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little bears instead of big blue people
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man that would have been some movie
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different audience for the sex scenes
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that well I yeah yeah so so here we are
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we're on that were on the forest moon
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and the first thing that happens is we
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get a nice little action peace with the
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introduction of these speeders right
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weekend we could go around them and yeah
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the speeders I i remembered when I would
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go back to say you know what which stars
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movie you want to watch today which is a
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frequent childhood conversation we had
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the money HS and the reason you go for
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Jedi the big reason for me was what i
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wanted to see that speeder chase scene
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because at the time it was the most
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amazing special effects sequence of an
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impossible thing that could really
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happen that was nevertheless exciting
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and I would just I wait the whole movie
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for the scene now at this point with all
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CG it doesn't quite hold up as well in
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terms of excitement factor i find the
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other parts of the movie more exciting
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like the space battle and a lightsaber
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battle in the am when I was a kid
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man those speeds like you know they just
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spend a little make the ring itself i am
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sorry you've only been to California the
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one time and you were just in san
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francisco and you know the next time
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you're out here I I could take you to
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muir woods which is right next to my
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house which is basically where they shot
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that I was telling my son when we were
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my son was watching me watching it with
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me when I was rewatching it for the
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podcast and I was telling him you know
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those are real trees that's not a set
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like there's a place those are actual
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trees in a forest California Redwoods
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yeah I don't think you believe me it
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doesn't leave a lot of things not again
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that's clearly the forest moon of Endor
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AKA and/or aka the sanctuary move there
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no such thing as trees that big look at
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those trees
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John when you're out here I'll get my
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I'll get my a speeder out of the garage
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and we'll go over to muir woods
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I'll take a picture of you doesn't go as
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fast as they used to but Hayley it's not
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the years
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dan it's the mileage and we'll take a
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picture of you riding it in the in the
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mirror woods and then and then you'll
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have been to the forest moon of Endor or
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commonly called endure the thing that I
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like so much about the speeder battle is
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actually the front shots that we get
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occasionally that are like point-of-view
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from either the characters or the
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stormtroopers or the I guess microscope
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wetland
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trooper bikers here like trooper spyker
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scalps biker scout
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yeah champion encyclopedia back
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everybody that's why have you to these
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guys are as good at riding bikes is the
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stormtroopers are shooting things and
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they just considering how long they
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survive and how again is because video
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games how difficult it is to actually
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drive these things of this kind of speed
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without hitting a tree they do pretty
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well know put a rearview mirror on a
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huge ones which were to solve a lot of
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problems only imperial troops could be
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that accurate they don't expect to be
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they expect to be you know chasing the
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little the little Ewok they don't expect
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rebel spies to be popping out of the
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woodwork on their bikes really they're
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using the speeder bikes on he walks
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that's that's overkill just getting
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around they're using their patrolling
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out i love these sounds these things
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make 10 you know it makes no sense of it
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doesn't matter
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yeah that bird is best their exact
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amazing sounds that's happened that's
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happened at the excitement of the scene
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is the sound these things make all the
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electronic noises and the howls and the
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MELD nonsensical stuff the noises well
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any way awesome i love my favorite still
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being you know Luke you know jumps up
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bails out of his feet are right because
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they're about to hit a tree and the guy
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comes around that you know my cursor
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comes around thinking man i'm just gonna
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I'm just gonna scare this guy down hold
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up the Lifeshaper and then cuts off the
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front of it
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yeah and the greening entry that there
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and even this movie like this was still
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won't mention the other movies but this
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was just in case where they were mostly
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withholding lightsabers you felt like
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you wanted to see more lightsaber
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they're doing it because they know if
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you have lightsabers and every single
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scene lose especially so when he looked
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up the lightsaber for this one bit
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alright but that's me nuts it's like
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when Voltron takes out the sword and all
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right time to get serious enough playing
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around you knocked me off my bicycle now
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this end and it just takes a few seconds
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and it goes away it's not over you like
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it's not like throwing his lightsaber
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from the speeder trying to get the other
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one catching it in the air and doing vs
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like that
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his piloting skills
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I wanted a 10 point to John's point
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about being a hard being hapless is i
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love that scene where their 1st trying
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to sneak up just like your Scouts for is
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yeah I first of all I love the Harrison
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for delivery on the hey it's me you know
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and then he creeps around he's like
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tiptoeing around the tree and then all
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the sudden you know steps on the twig
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gets punched right and not gown and then
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I love the end they're sort of like
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wrestling he tries to throw the guy into
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a tree and then he doesn't like he
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seriously there's like an aikido flip on
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the guy and like flips him over which is
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awesome but then and then it like about
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he's already lost half his team at that
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yeah well and then we can we shoot back
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to like Luke coming back you just see
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Han sitting like at the base of the tree
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looking completely abandoned and sad so
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dejected I guess someone screwed up my
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first mission to the general guys your
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mob first days general was terrible at
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beat up go throw in a locker the we get
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to meet the Ewoks here
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Yub Yub Yub he wants to get a bit the
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u.s. get a bad name
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they're cute they are like my kids and
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my kids love them my kids this is why my
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kids want to watch this movie is it is
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it the snow movie or the or the one with
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the Ewoks but I say well as the one that
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you know what I want that my answer is
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it's the snow movie and the like are we
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want to watch the one with the evil
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slowly alright alright so my my thing
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for the Ewoks over any other arm
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potentially annoying characters that
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have been thrown into supposedly panter
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towards kids is that the Ewoks are cute
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find they're cuddly they're not exactly
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very vicious but they don't talk in real
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words so however said you put their
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dialogue might be
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yeah exactly when when Leigh is having
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her interaction with them
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she's talking to them like a kid but it
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doesn't seem pandering and the audience
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doesn't want to blow their brains out
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because she's treating it more like
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stringing more like an animal than a kid
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I think she did seem like a tourist like
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the part where she comes in like when
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they're trying to cook them later and
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she's like no these are my friends to
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speak loudly really slowly
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oh I understand you're sure
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yeah and the equinoxes are portrayed I
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mean the other cute and stuff but they
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are an indigenous people and they've got
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their own ways and they are not you know
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completely pure and nice they do they do
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try to roast han solo for extending can
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you blame them and they do blood and
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start rippers to death most of their
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cattle starters through blunt force
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trauma and one of them dies and it's
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very sad everyone there is there is a
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reason that you want to get the bad rap
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they do in the I think the only reason
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that they are redeemed this because we
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know how much worse it could have really
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been and also because when we saw these
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things that we were kids but this is
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when the movie takes a this section of
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the movie takes more of a turn into the
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things that kids like that is even not
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lighter in terms of an Indiana Jones
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lighter like kind of like rye and and
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witty but now it's more kind of like
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does the baby walk and there's the you
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know that this sweetie while that you
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walk crying over the other walk and they
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do kind of goofy things that even though
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they are supposed to be a society with
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fierce warriors and stuff their undercut
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a little bit by the by the joke eNOS up
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although i love the scene were Threepio
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gets to recount basically the our story
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so far it would sound effects sound
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effects but no words that we can really
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understand its charming haha and ability
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to test our way manacle tool princess
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there was a when I was hard on d theta
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and think of a scheme okie some debts
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what we gon get open closet Kenobi in my
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magic on you know baby yes i do I was
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just coming to that two run
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oh gosh just look at Germany to do with
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the Millennium Falcon and instruments
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Cloud City with much data and solo take
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low-carbon catchment supersonic 00 any
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chance Toto Manette and actually has
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some charm to it although i do to test
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the scene that is directly after that
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which is the luke tells layout that it a
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do you remember your mother I just
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energy i remember as a kid always
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wanting to fast forward to that team
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because like a yeah get the part where
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they're fighting stormtroopers again and
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I at last to pretend she's sad just like
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I oh I'm accent now and there's others a
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bizarre little nonsensical spat with her
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in Han Solo were hunters like yeah you
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too Luke I'm gonna storm off and no I'm
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just kidding i'm really sorry no I'm
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hold me food that was good oh you can
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tell this is a Lucas scene right
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the force is strong in my family I have
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it my father has it
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my sister are you following along you're
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he just wants to talk to layer so badly
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about this and she's just not getting
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the hint and he's like all right come on
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please I view that as being looks like
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what we would with the most dramatically
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I could tell you this I could just run
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up to its exactly i thought other places
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you don't there's a father God but no no
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no let me stretch it out let me make it
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a little more dramatic
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that's it the Darth Vader's here
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remember Darth Vader he's a bad guy
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yeah okay guess what guess what the
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force is strong in my family I know that
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seems unrelated wait wait for it wait
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Darth Vader's my father who no no that's
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oh that starts out the conversation with
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like I never remembered my
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other oh my sister has it
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my name is Gail she lives in Oregon and
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actually and the thing that really gets
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me about that is that lady's trying to
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process it all and I I'm really should
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and she says I know what it means that
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in the reverse order that would've been
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worse i know somehow I've always known
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and really you know what she should be
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saying there is
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wait a second are you saying the Darth
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Vader is my father
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holy crap right now it's just like I've
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always known and we and we made out that
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one time i do then to but that was just
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getting hard jealous when Han Solo was
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told he has the realization on his face
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I like to think that one of the
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realizations that crosses through his
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mind and his face is the way to Kingston
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hey you all right anyway
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well who's got the last laugh now Luke
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haha but yeah it's a that's a really
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weird scene we we skipped over i want to
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go back to Threepio being a god to the
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Ewoks by the way it's against his
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programming to impersonate a deity tell
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him you tell him you will use your magic
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but um it as an adult looking at that
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it's a it and thinking about some of the
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criticisms levelled George Lucas in
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specifically in some of the portrayals
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in episode 1 i'll look at this and it's
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like wow you know they're I know their
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little bears on an alien moon but it's
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this is the that these are you know this
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is headhunters this is this
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it's kind of offensive it is like oh
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these are savages they believe crazy
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seven it's all the tropes about the
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Sabbath kind of noble savage kind of
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sending to the the box they're like
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children there the noble savages they
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believe in voodoo stuff there and now
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you're part of the tribe and yes it's a
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home you know and r2 also r2d2 in his
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list of things that he has inside a
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Taser nice to know that it was which he
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zaps them in the buggy some use that
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earlier to break latest jail in an
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adorable way everything is absolution
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scramble that there are insanely right
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right but is when he's at the Ewok Ewok
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jumps into the split kick and touch and
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his little heinie guess the sparkle like
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that's the thing to make that he walks
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and a lot of it is justified
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yeah yeah but it is i think it's
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interesting that that I mean because
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they're not sort of a
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and there there little more review
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removed from being a a racial stereotype
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it still is like everything out of the
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PlayBook of of you know what though it's
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the headhunters it's were in the darkest
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deepest part of Africa or the Pacific or
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whatever and it's all the stuff out of
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that playbook
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except there there little bears is there
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clearly the Native Americans they have
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that we have headdresses and the little
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animal skulls now we try to remember
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wasn't there a discussion where they
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were supposed to be Wookiees yeah it was
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those are plentiful cookies
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I don't know that would have been better
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i know i'm i'm unclear i mean we did get
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the Christmas special to show us wiki
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life so it was anything like that you
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know i mean so if if I saying which if
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we had Wookiees Were jetta we wouldn't
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have had that then yes we get all agree
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that it would have been better
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yes anyway but but the highlight of this
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is is what you read what red said which
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is its Threepio telling the story so far
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with the sound effects that is great
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because it that says something I think
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about the you know that how this story
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is an epic story and it's told with it
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you know it's it's based on these
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mythical archetypes and you boil it down
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to three pio just you know taking sound
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effects and little tiny bits and in and
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and and telling a story around a
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campfire and leaving the little bear
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guys enthralled and its really it's
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great and convincing them to join the
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fight right which is the most part of it
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yeah so that scene is great it's
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surrounded by terrible things but that
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seems great and it's also a highlight of
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our central characters which this movie
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has you know these this trilogy has very
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much of and the other trilogy which
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doesn't actually exist has very little
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in terms of character interaction and
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people who you really care about and
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when they go into carbonite you feel sad
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for you know it's really nice to see
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kind of that knit and you you really do
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in the story we skipped over the the
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another one of the annoying scenes that
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bothers me is that making sure he looks
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like a doofus it to get the meat and get
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them trapped in the thing and they
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played the due to do music as they're up
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there great let's get out all right
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everybody looks
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good doofus oh that's weird that that's
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also a bad scene because it never i.e I
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think it's badly edited and shot but
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it's confusing about what she is seeing
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yeah it doesn't look like an animal but
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it's you know and it's clear that trap
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but then they're always it becomes more
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Slatter of like grit and and the other
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thing about always always bothered me
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and continues to is that when r 2 gets
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them out first of all he cuts like one
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string right in front of him and they
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all come out and second of all sparks
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fly so they have metl going through this
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netting yeah the sparks thing always
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bugged me as a kid I could never quite
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figure out the hell was going on there
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it was maybe the electric net I don't
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yeah but that the tone of that crosses
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the line into the dude music yeah can
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you reach my lightsaber huh yeah get it
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for you all my face is squished are you
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silly wookie that's the meaning to
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Chewie who would be much more streetwise
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than that
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two weeks from the city he doesn't
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understand this crazy country stuff was
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like this this middle section where it's
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like meet the Ewoks aren't they cute but
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they're dangerous but they're cute and
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there are their enemies but they're our
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friends like and all this ridiculousness
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is the bad is the worst section of the
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Ewok section i think once once the
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fighting starts
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he walks are much less annoying and and
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fit more seamlessly and to get to that
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phrase you've got to get Luke out of
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their busy lives after he has his awful
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scene with that with like and goes off
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stock debater and so now we're back into
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the better scenes
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look meet with Vader on the moon I I i
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forget that scene exists and it's a
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great scene
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ok I'm surprised you forget because it's
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very I it sticks in my memory because
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it's very riveting and important like
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dramatic but I as a kid you're like okay
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this Darth Vader and he's the big bad
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guy and then and then you confront some
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an empire it's a big dramatic thing and
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this movie like they meet again and
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instead of fighting they're talking like
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what they've been issues to work and
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family therapy it's it's because it's
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it's because it's got you've got all
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those scenes with the Ewoks and then
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you've got all the action stuff that
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happens after and it's it's an important
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scene but it's this one
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it's not like the scenes that surrounded
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it's this it is a linchpin kind of scene
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where you know dad's dad picks up his
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son on the planet and takes him back to
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the start that it isn't it's a tense
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moment because you want you at this
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point they
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base they sold a lot of seeds of doubt
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we can talk about this but we're going
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you know that seems to be in the later
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in the Empire like I hope your feelings
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are clear strange that I had not felt
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him on you know felt Luke on the thing
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where you're there putting a little
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seeds of doubt in your mind of like well
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so what is Vader's motivation he didn't
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kill him in an empire he wanted to join
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so in the very least you're thinking
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Bader has an ulterior motive of get Luke
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to join me come back and defeat the
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Emperor be stated that right out an
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empire and now the Emperor's question
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like why do you have this connection to
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this version that we now know to be your
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son what's the deal there and loop is
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totally like there's good in him I felt
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that I'm gonna so when they meet
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together the tension is what's gonna
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happen there is looking to say hey Lou
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come with me and get rid of the Emperor
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Luke we know is going to say I felt the
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good and you come with me you know that
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that tension of seen what what is this
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relationship that was previously so
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simple bad guy good guy is now very very
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complicated and that meeting
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you're gonna find out who's right you
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guys is the Emperor right that Vader is
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going to bring him up to him just like
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you asked them to is look right that
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he's going to turn or something else
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going to happen and the conclusion of
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that scene that I love the the bit where
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Vader says I see you instructed your
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life seven takes a lightsaber behind
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look like I got chopped up with his own
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lightsaber he doesn't you know but the
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end of the scene is that Vader takes him
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back to the Emperor exactly like the
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Emperor study should and the only thing
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you get is the little tiny conciliatory
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it's too late for me son but he still
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does with the Emperor told them to do
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which is bringing back that they're the
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regret and it's great setup for what
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happens later but the regret invader
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there that that Luke tries to turn them
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and and and fader because this is really
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where Darth Vader get starts to be
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humanized which is so important for what
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happens later in the movie where there's
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the regret he's eat he says we want ride
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this you know it didn't work and and
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there is some regret there and then it's
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too late for me son like you know you
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can feel it it's like he he knows what
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he's doing and what he's done is
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terrible but he feels like it he's on
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the path he can't turn back he he can't
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change because he's already made his
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decision he wasted his life for whatever
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ruined his life by serving the Emperor
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it's too late for me which is great
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setup for later but it also makes you
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for the very first time I feel something
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for Darth Vader that he he is not just
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the bad guy he is he is this kind of
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this tragic figure which is incredibly
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important for later and this is that
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moment that's why it's so pivotal and
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and we've got Luke to wear heard you
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know this was kind of his all in play
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right yeah I'm taking it let's go run
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off with me i'm going to jump it you
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know stick my head in the lion's mouth
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and basically say I you know here's my
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here's my pitch take me up on it and so
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but we also see that he's you know his
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fallback plan is basically you know as
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we know in a scene shortly thereafter to
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die on the Death Star right now I know
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he says the Emperor soon also yeah dude
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and you and you along with me and you
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know yeah he's thinking you're gonna
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blow up the Death Star exactly and so I
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think you know that it's such an
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interesting play because he's right he's
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willing to sacrifice his life to try and
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bring his father back around right is
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huge because you know we've seen him
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sort of teetering on this you know you
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can go a little dark side is he gonna
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stay where he is and you know I think
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that's you know the fact that he's
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willing to make that sacrifice is a big
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plain paper and also there's an app is
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an added walking there isn't any
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accidentally don't if you're a as a
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seventeen-year-old boy in there when the
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rear releases came of the special
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editions came out and watch this movie
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at like 1030 at night with a bunch of
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friends in the movie theater and let me
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tell you the Emperor's lines pretty much
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all take on a really disturbing innuendo
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at that point I hate is swelling in unit
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creepy when we look at when greater
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brings look back to the the Emperor
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thing that struck me this time I was
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watching it was a you know so you've got
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the I think of it at that point better
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says obi-wan has taught you well he's
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got that line right right and that's
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repeated a lot that kind of idea i keep
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talking about obi-wan obi-wan tried to
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turn me we want to talk to well blah
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blah and the the thing that pilots to me
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is that the the bad guys don't know
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about Yoda they never mentioned that you
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don't have no idea that Yoda is training
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look at all and that is a refreshing
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change from the movie cliché where
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adversaries know every detail of the
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other side like you know we just like it
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James Bond movies are great examples
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James Bond knows everything about the
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enemies and
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you know everything about James Bond all
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the Secret Service know all about each
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other in this movie the the darkside
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guys spend the entire time having no
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idea that Luke has been hanging out and
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about talking to your it's all about
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like we want to talk to you this so you
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can't block nobody one can help you now
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Luke never says no i've been i've been
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hanging out with Yoda is awesome
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yeah dude I i nuovi want for like 20
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minutes yeah right yeah he gave me gave
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me this helmet at night kind of fought
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with a ball but shot me in the butt and
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then he died
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you killed him I I learned a lot and
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look never corrected me like no you keep
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saying oh we wanted to annoy me at this
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point you know it's Yoda my teacher is
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gonna maybe they wouldn't have fought
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him that whole crap you trained him
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we're due back off sun so so uh what we
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cut back to the to the forest moon of
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Endor the something that's always struck
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me as strange is is they do this the
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Ewok ruins their surprise attack
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well he doesn't ruin it he and enhances
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it by drawing people off well this is
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they're like oh no he's wrecked it's
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like no that's the perfect diversion
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because how he's not an attacking force
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he's a native these storm troopers have
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got to have been annoyed by these clocks
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they're like oh no not more of these
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Oh think they would have learned not to
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leave the keys in the speeder well yeah
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it maybe don't have keys they're just
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like keyless that term on also yet
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another long like checkmark in the long
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list of stormtrooper and competence
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right because not only do we get that
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where they're like oh god three of us
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better go chase that you walk within the
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last guy gets beaten by a game a tag
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yeah have some of the shoulder up i'm on
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the other shoulder that was the best
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console learned that as a kid I do love
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that scene though especially when he
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runs around the corner and those guys
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bringing guns into moves like damn it I
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always fault but when he walked takes
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off of the speeder that was that is a
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laughs a scene for my kids to like to
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say that I worry about that biker scout
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who got tricked by hon just got the
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biggest performance reviews and it's
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gonna be able to find it and it was
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pointless anyway he was rubbing it in i
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mean you could have the same number of
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people just simply walk out and point
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the gun at the one person but it was
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more fun to trick no promotion for that
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well most of management is dead by this
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point so little details that i love is
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like when they go into the monkey after
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that you can see
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nobody else putting on the biker scout
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helmet and standing outside like you
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know they're smart enough to like leave
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a guy at the back is a decoy of it there
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are there are red shirts in in the
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Andorian force but we like you know
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where are they we don't see them
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basically when they go to the walk thing
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but there around you know the extras
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with no lines that are not on camera
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much but there is a but it seems like
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the only people land on this planet is
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like you know Han Chewie c-3po r2d2 luke
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and leia there other people there too
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well you have to spit the other space
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set up here where they keep coming back
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to the space that awesome exciting space
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man i was again you see a million ships
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flying around there all assembly and
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they always jump to hyperspace which is
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the almighty one of my favorite yeah and
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time and i love 18 when they approached
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the death star like they're gonna hit
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they're gonna hit you know when they
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slow down that giant 180 degree i really
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enjoy the i really enjoyed that the the
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scene were Admiral Ackbar's like all
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right well are all ships are gonna jump
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to Lightspeed on my mark and lenders
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like got it i'm just going up it just
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goes yeah screw that i'm in the
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Millennium Vulcan yeah that was his mark
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him sold word mark so uh so Luke meet
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the Emperor and he gets out lukd which I
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like because we've talked about how
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Lucas Lucas so confident eat it Luke and
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ancillary anything and he feels like
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well I'm and I'm sure I can do whatever
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I want so he runs into the Emperor
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teases your overconfidence is your
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weakness and the Emperor is a high fever
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is like your faith in your friends is
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oh burn you got yeah he's got to come by
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the emperor has got to come back for
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everything yeah don't hear the master is
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you you were owned by the master Emperor
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Luke it's a it's a nice moment
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yeah well this in this entire sequence
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right is Luke increasingly getting over
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over his head right like you know this
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yeah like that has totally miscalculated
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the situation and the and the Emperor
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doesn't like the Emperor's ago is into
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theatrics tubes amber could tell him up
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ok so your your fleas falling to trap
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the start early operational he doesn't
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he lets it dulls it out it was like what
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is he gonna do you can't get out of here
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yeah it's a very different tactic from
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most of the monologuing that happens in
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modern movies where it's like all of the
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model logging that would happen in a
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modern movie happens in this
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scene it's just Luke is doing all the
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investigations here instead of the
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villain being like let me tell you what
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you're doomed to failure i'm looking
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forward to completing country in time
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you will call me master
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you're gravely mistaken you won't
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convert me as you did my father
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oh no my and Jedi you will find that it
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is you who are mistaken about a great
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many think his light sleeper
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yes a Jedi's weapon much like your
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father's by now you must know your
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father can never be turned from the dark
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so will it be with you
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your are so they'll be dead and you with
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perhaps you referred to the imminent
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attack of your rebel fleet
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yeah I assure you react quite safe from
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your friends here
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your overconfidence is your weakness
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your faith in your friends is yours
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it is pointless to resist my son
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everything that has transpired has done
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sir according to my design your friends
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up there on the century move out walking
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into a trap
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as is your rebel fleet it was I who have
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the Alliance to know the location of the
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shield generator it is quite see young
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pitiful little band an entire Legion of
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my best troops awaits them who i'm
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a-free the deflector shield will be
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quite operational when your friends run
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and it makes sense because the Emperor's
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goal is here to get pissed off basically
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you do a light by doling it out it's not
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like I'm doing it for dramatic tension
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in the movie he's doing because the
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whole point is to make this guy angry
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and if you just let out all at once it
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doesn't work as well if you just slowly
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tease it out and every time he thinks
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okay well that's not bad my friends in
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the trap but I'm probably still gonna be
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okay here because all the desktop
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operational to and you know it's just
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everything on top of things on top of
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things and it makes sense with the plot
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of the movie that and why does he want
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the good guy to get pissed off why
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didn't you just kill well in this case
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he doesn't want to kill him unless he
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can't be turned and he does want to piss
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them off if that's how he wants to turn
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him so for once it finally makes sense
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this type of my hog ya know it works and
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he's in it plays against Luke's kind of
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arrogance that he had through the movie
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of like I've got it figured out that
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this is your last chance right now it's
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not it's not arrogance he was he was he
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was confident and he made this bold play
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and now I mean he's here screwed over
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confident he's just kind of finally
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right this is the final battle and he's
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right up against the final battle he
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knew it would be difficult and lonely
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old is difficult it's a boss fight
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yes here's the body is the box of the
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level of the galaxy
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i also like as from a cinematographic
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standpoint i love that scene where Vader
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and Luke first come up we've got like
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the red the lights coming up the
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elevator and then because I got that
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frame paused on my screen right now
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because i was about to say that yeah I
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think it's a great shot
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it's just said something about the two
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of them standing there in both of the
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black and there's like a foot and the
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difference between their heights and and
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you can tell like even though it looks
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cut off the shoulders you can tell he's
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handcuffed because
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there's a kind of together you know he's
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never gonna be as tall as debt said his
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dads on like big metal legs make them
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taller and lifts know what you're
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talking about
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I the and we also were coming were
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coming back to the cutting back to the
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fleet and this is when the trap is
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sprung out
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wait what I again the great i love i
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love the anything with Lando in the
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Millennium Falcon and his little love
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Italian alien fanatic Italian he's
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celestin okay and he's wearing a han
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Solo best know the bad but he needs to
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wear the vest alright become important
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you gotta wear the vest is for the
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hazing process the dress code
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it's and it's so flimsy it's like a
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little it's not providing any help any
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it's purely for show again he's the he's
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the guy who doesn't speak English who
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provides like context for that every day
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no no we got to be able to get a reading
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on it up or down alright and i got a
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beautiful shot with pulling upward oh
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yeah and I was it that scene where
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they'll peel away from the oh man I love
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that it's such a great shot with the
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falkens like whoa this is like the
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example an empire where you've got that
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you know okay then just seen the
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Millennium Falcon was flying to an
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asteroid does that big pirouette well
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same thing here on the scene the fleet
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has to go towards the shield realizes
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there and turn back but they've turned
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back and graceful beautiful way you know
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they it everything is done artfully no
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ships and chips do not maneuver like
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taxi drivers driving through the city
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everything is Grace and art and
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interesting camera angles and drama i
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think that this this battle will forever
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be my favorite space battle
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yeah even if it stands up it may be the
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base best space battle ever and are
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constructed the original affect student
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at and they've got some limitations but
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I just an amazing achievement and they
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still look great there's so many
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different objects
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this is the one thing that stuck with me
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and when i left the movie what when i
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saw it originally was those scenes of
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those ships flying around it's not just
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like two ships right it's like dozens of
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ships as good as as as iconic of god
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Greg NASA's gonna kill me as iconic as
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the first Death Star pedal is that the
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rough edges show right like crazy even
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though his special edition there's
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there's plenty of match shots and stuff
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here there's there's one or two that I
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think are really kind of you know maybe
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glaring i think that the scene where the
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executor falls into the death star
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there's a scene that's a little off the
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scales a little wrong but other than
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that it's almost note-perfect entire
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fight and you know it seems real and it
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holds up as run was saying you know like
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it looks now as real to me as it did
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when i saw it you know 30 years ago I
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think the key to it being exciting is a
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limitations because they couldn't have
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as many shut cool shots of the ships
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flying basically so the few shots they
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do have any if you were to cut it
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together say how many ships how many
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motion-control shots are there are two
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optically composited ships it's very few
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of them and there's a lot of interior
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stuff of people talking and things
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happening and so if you could only have
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you know 2750 however many there are
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shots of shit ships going every one of
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those shots composed to be the most
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exciting most dramatic most interesting
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able to read the action a small number
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of frames to tell what's going on but
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also be exciting because you don't get
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that many of you can't have okay for
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this entire battle we're going to be in
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third person following spaceships around
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because they just simply didn't have the
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budget for that you couldn't do it you
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had to piece it out every every time
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they cut from close up of people in
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cockpit two ships flying around it's the
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most amazing thing you've ever seen
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ships do you know well anyway and they
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don't overburden it right like you know
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I was thinking you know what our space
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battles that have come since that you
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know one of the most recent ones will
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take this the star trek reboot you know
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some great special effects but at the
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same time a lot of the battles there
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feel overburdened in the sense that
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there's just too much going too much
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they're making it like everything's like
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like like Normandy right like where it's
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just like ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod and in
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this one you know they do a great job is
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John saying I'm like limiting in on
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certain maneuvers or shit and shines are
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going to follow like here's the sky
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chasing this person
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here's what the money Falcon is up to
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here is what you know random a wing and
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why we're up to you to show and eating
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they're trying to show you you know
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there are characters right like their
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characters within the space flight no
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way that right and tiny manager stories
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like yeah we're trying to convey that
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the fleet is overmatched we're trying to
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convey that in the guy you the guy who
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crashes into
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a the bridge right now you get shot me
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crazy but we know it is it's easy to
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draw a linear line there 4gb just be
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like out there is there goes down I felt
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that thing all that made that happen up
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and and the result of his actions is the
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you know thing goes away you know that
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it's it's very well come together to let
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you you know you can't you couldn't draw
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a coherent picture of the battle but
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each each one of the scenes you know why
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they're showing this to you not just
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because the coolship flying around but
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because it's an important event in the
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battle is that is turning the tide of
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the battle is a character that we care
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about doing something or something like
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that you know it's not just and a bunch
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of ships run at each other and a bunch
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of lights flash until at the end
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somebody wins the UH this at this point
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the movie we really we have three things
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happening simultaneously with a lot of
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quick cuts so its act rather than jump
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around and quick cut between them we
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should probably address them in turn
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we've got the battle down on the on what
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we got the space battle which we talked
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about which I at the toward the end of
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it the flying into the superstructure
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don't have the Death Star comes online
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and starts blowing okay so its front for
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okay first off it's it's and that
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happens you know coming back for that
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the this fully operational station maha
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where it's obviously business you know
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they've been playing whoa
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they've been playing possum fright it's
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like well we're gonna build the the big
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gun yeah we finished all our life
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support and like you know there's not
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like place for people to sleep there's
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no bathrooms but the gun work yeah
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there's a big pit over here there's a
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giant pit that if you if you go over the
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railing here you fall and forget this
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ever HAP I keep meaning to cover them
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but big green beam boom and we get out
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we get read reuse footage there too
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which is an interesting little move they
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I think they flip part of it but they we
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have the same scenes from ya firing it
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up that we have yeah I'm started the
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guys in the helmets and I don't and
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interesting out there's also reuse music
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during the superstructure fight as
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they're flying in
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it's a great moment where they where
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they blast one of the one of the rebel
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ships and Lando has the you know fly by
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the big flight flight is the big ships
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because then they won't shoot at them
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because they'll blow them up and that's
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a nice space tactics and then I love the
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scene as the flying super
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sure there's the and the Falcon looses
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its its dish that was too close right is
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that capital ship like goes nose-first
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into the Death Star
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yeah the examiner yet and it was also
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filled with kerosene love that I also i
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love the fact that wedge gets to be the
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hero and this one is like already on my
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way out oh yeah I had to leave the last
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fight this that sucked
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oh and i enjoyed that the guys who are
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flying the Giants Super Star Destroyer r
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is Admiral Piett still from Empire
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Strikes Back makes it this far but alas
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no further although I said fall when all
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their gravity enabling goes straight
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into the controls everything why is it
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always the gravity of the desktop
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okay that works ok that works in a
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reasonable doubt and also because that
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enable metaphor and they want to look
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like the ship isn't it looks awesome but
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like it's one of those things that you
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know someone mentioned to me at some
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point it's like you can't unsee it at
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the engine
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well I didn't think I like about them
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going into the Death Star is it again I
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i can't recall a a space ship moving
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scene that has a better sense of speed
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and motion in danger than those ships
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flying through that place and it's not
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gonna because i spent many hours and
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rogue leader trying to get through that
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same thing just before the gamecube
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existed that it you know it's just a
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camera a camera moving through a
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miniature but like they knew what looked
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good you know the miniature has many
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repeated structures especially the
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ending part that un dia into that open
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big open room the fly away from the
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explosion appears and goes much faster
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than the ships that were going away from
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it you know that that that whole
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sequence of the ships flying in there
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and flying back out is so much more
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exciting than any of the the cg computer
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stuff that I see most of these days and
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I don't even know why it's not a
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limitation because that's all motion
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control they spend lots of budget flying
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little cameras and models through a
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little pieces of the Death Star
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well that's and that's why it is because
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it's not fake because part of your brain
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knows it's hard you know I think it's
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like the only thing I could think of was
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similar to that is some of the pics are
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active stuff in the incredibles we're
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not that it looks the same or anything
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but like a baby they chose to do camera
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moves and
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and and you know actions and framing of
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framing of the action is going on each
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scene each little section each cut to be
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dramatic or interesting in a particular
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way instead of just getting ok here's
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the ship flying and what kind of follow
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it you know like that are artfully done
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actually the saucer chase through the
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jungle and no Madison is a coat total
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homage to return of the jedi me i would
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say so there is a there is a connection
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with the incredibles let's talk about
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the back on the forest moon
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this is this is when the the Ewoks join
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the fight against the stormtroopers they
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have an entire Legion of troopers i was
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struck and how suddenly it turns into
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the Lord of the Rings except with teddy
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bears but the Lord of it here and
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suddenly it's a you know you've got
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these battles with the with these it's
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lord of the rings that these guys if
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swords and and heavy things
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Trebuchet days well I like the fact that
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it's not that they do have they do have
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the the change in the tide of battle
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here like gave you are coming they have
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the scene of going
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yeah and they have sticks and these guys
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and the eyes and a testy isn't laser
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guns and so they basically are starting
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to be slaughtered you know it's only
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through the the heroics of the script
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and Chewbacca noise Chewbacca the tide
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has turned slightly but right now they
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do like they try many different things
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to stop the at-st is like putting the
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ropes around like that doesn't work and
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throw rocks at things that just pisses
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that they just smashed between the wall
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yeah but eventually they got like a what
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does where they they drop the they drop
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the logs yeah so that's it like it was a
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clear purpose so they try like five
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tactics and only two of them actually
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work but it's enough their primitive
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they have to work have to work up to it
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and um the other thing that I that I've
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noticed and is painful in the in the in
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the bad category here is the Ewok
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swinging on a vine making me Tarzan cod
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that's actually Chewbacca oh is this
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your pockets that is that could be the
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lowest point of this entire movie
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embarrassing it's worse than a wilhelm
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scream there oh that was the other
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really laughter wilhelm is they have
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there when they have this is a good hot
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sauce in there you have the the guy cums
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stands in front of the little lightning
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where the where the shield generator is
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and Hansel throws a thing at a minute
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he's like Duncan Idaho hit them in the
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head he falls over the railing to up to
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a huge Wilhelm as I believe he actually
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throws the box with the detonator
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charges yea yea it hit him in the head
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he falls on the whirling yeah well I
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also love this is another great example
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of the fact that the worst the worst
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thing you can say to somebody else in
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the star wars universe is called the
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scum you ask how many times can we got
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wretched hive of scum ability we got
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rebel scum
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we've got my bounty hunter is my
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favorite type my name is khan them thank
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goodness they didn't call of scumbags
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that would be worse
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yeah actually scum is a slang word and
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the star wars universe that means really
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really awesome it's really yeah
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oh IC awkward interesting I so so those
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those two frames of battle are going on
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and then bending the quieter from the
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battle but still a pivotal is luke and
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the Emperor interest in a strangely
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passive Darth Vader which i think is
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interesting when they keep coming back
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to him and showing you Darth Vader and
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you like his expression is not going to
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change now that it's a mask right but
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and yet like through head tilts and body
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oh yeah and your own mapping of things
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on during that you start to you start to
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you know figure like he was he feeling
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there something I can see it in his eyes
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like advisor plastic little covers don't
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see anything right but it's there and
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there's a confrontation between Luke
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invader which we know we had to have and
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what what uh what my notes here have is
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is what I've always wondered
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the Emperor is really aching Luke on and
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so my question is you know what is the
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Emperor wanting here I mean it seems to
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me like the Emperor's like go ahead and
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kill Darth Vader now eat it
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he doesn't care which one wins right you
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just want them to fight if either way he
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gets he gets the winner as you know if
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his fader wins well then he did a good
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job teaching Vader we're not able to
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look problem with Luke wins while i
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replace my old model with my new one
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yeah although i think he wants to prefer
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loop because again new models less
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robotics young girl you you assume you
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would assume the young guys going to win
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right and i think that's a part of
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Vader's character i think is that I
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Vader knows what's up he knows you know
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I mean he's not ignorant of the Sith and
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how this whole thing works right well he
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tried the same thing right
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and most importantly rule the Galaxy
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together as father and son
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yeah but Vader's kind of pissed is like
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he's got this thing of like Luke wanting
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to turn over but the other hand is kind
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of insulted he's like he's not going to
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defeat me I'm Darth Vader like he's got
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a certain sense of all the Emperor
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assumes you're going to win because
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you're young and powerful and stuff like
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that but I totally have something to
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prove here to both myself and the
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Emperor to go see you thought that you
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were going to bring in this new jetta
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hybrid gonna kick his butt anyway
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because I'm Darth Vader and like that's
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all mixed up and his you know feelings
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for the situation but but yeah this is
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this this ending sequences fascinating
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to me because i can't recall seeing
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anything like this since and it's
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amazing that work is it in this tense
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part of the scene here what's going on
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is that Lucas is brought under President
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prisoners been taken away and the bad
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guy is trying to lure him into attacking
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my cell you want your lightsaber come
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and attack me strike me down I'm unarmed
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all that business right
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I and it's not trick it's not a trap
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it's not like Oh soon as you grab his
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lightsaber he's gonna die and the
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Emperor could kill him at any moment on
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video walk over and stabbed he's got no
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lightsaber you know he he wants me to
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fight for this with other reason and the
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our hero is trying not to fight
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yeah he's he's trying not to fight the
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easy to say oh you want me to have a
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land at in the audience like you would
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think wouldn't the kids to be saying i
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have a lightsaber and how lightsaber
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battle but they construct it so well
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that but I remember being a kid going
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no Luke don't take the lightsaber know
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what kind of movie the third movie in a
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trilogy of movies about people fighting
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with lightsabers can you get you know
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that you know it's seven-year-old kid to
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no Luke don't take the lightsaber that's
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a pretty amazing feat at you know that
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the fact that they can get you to that
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point is just boggles my mind didn't
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think about it was a kid and think about
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like you're rooting for him not to take
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the engine want to see light Sarah don't
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you want to see them fight they've done
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a really great job of sort of you know
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in in you know instilling you those Jedi
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you know the Jedi traits that we've
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gotten from Yoda right all right just
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that that's what the bad guy wants and
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you know it and you don't want him to
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give in this whole scene is like this
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tension he's such a jerk about it is
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like you know you want this like no no I
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don't want that you let me just give you
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the lightsaber I'm gonna put in your
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hand turn it up going back to Luke and
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you can
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he's like
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you know it's like awkward position
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frustrate your friends are dying out
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there we've got him down on the planet
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they get to that scene where he's
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watching it through the for the window
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right like you start to sweat and he's
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like look at the lightsabers like a crap
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i am too am totally in over my head be I
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totally miscalculated this entire
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situation yeah maybe I can fight my way
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out of here but i wot told me I really
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shouldn't do that so we finally he
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finally goes over the edge he pulls the
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lightsaber and although if you watch
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that it seems like he and the Emperor
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are further apart and then there's one
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shot where it's like they're standing
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next to each other and yeah well that's
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the ultimate badass scene for the
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Emperor though because he doesn't move
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no nose look it's gonna take it and he
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knows his faithful henchmen who he
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trained so well over all these years you
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know stop the lights it for me and my
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face and he does and he does and he's
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laughing I mean and which is funny
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because because Vader was the one trying
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to get Luke to join of right so what if
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you just been like map there's one way
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to accomplish my goals and kill the
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Emperor we're good
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that's why it's such a amazing
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confidence he he knew that Vader would
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do that and the reason I think better
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does that is because Vader still has
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that feeling like I'm gonna prove to the
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Emperor that i'm actually the best guy
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and yeah that i'm the most powerful and
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all you know i'm not going too late for
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me also it was a life-debt in a way to
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the Emperor because the Emperor's want
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to you know basically saved him more or
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I don't know what you're talking about I
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mean yeah that's no I'm saying wholly
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unfounded that's sort of a Talmudic
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interpretation there so a the music
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swells and it isn't theirs
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there are a few moments here where it's
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really almost all music
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really almost all music
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as it's sort of overwhelms you and Luke
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the the just there's that scene where
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Luke just is makin rings with his
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lightsaber and is just smashing into
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darth vader and this is that defeat of
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Darth Vader it's so i can play it back
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in my mind it's so shocking and it gets
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prompted by the fact that you know Luke
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is basically gone totally defensive
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right he's hiding is yeah will not fight
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you yeah he refused to fight this is a
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scene I I reacted with a friend I'm
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points because we've both gotten those
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lights over toys when you're like 17 it
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was awesome and so you know he's he's
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hiding and he's like in the dark when we
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get those shots of him just like yeah
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clearly freaked out right he's like man
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I'm not gonna be able to get out of this
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invaders stalking him and and so then he
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starts to probe into his mind starts
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getting into his head right and since
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the one thing that you that been told
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them don't bury those feelings and looks
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like you got yeah he's thinking of a
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pink elephant you can see it on this
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device really gotta say yeah and that is
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a great team where you again having more
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credit to handle for just being like Oh
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can't not think about this and we get
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you know Vader needling him in finding
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that bet one really vulnerable spot is
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are the one thing that he's going to try
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incredibly hard to protect and the one
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thing that's going to push him over the
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edge and yes as you're saying then it
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turns into the scene is just it's brutal
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is the word that always in my mind right
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now because he's just he's lost all
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attempts at finesse or any of the skills
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he seemed to have learned he's just
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smashing is just wailing on him
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wales autonomy and you've got sad
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chanting music items of your growing
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monks or whatever it's sad human voice
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chanting music to go with with the said
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orchestral music so here is here is are
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seeing where we have if you were to tell
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someone watching a new hope that at the
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end of the third movie Luke Skywalker is
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going to be winning and a lightsaber
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battle against darth vader and you're
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just going to stop and they're going to
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be playing set they're gonna be playing
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sad music and he's going to be and this
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is you're not gonna be happy about this
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you in the audience are going to be said
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that he is winning in the lightsaber
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battle against Darth Vader makes no
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sense makes absolutely no sense yet
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this point in the movie you are sad for
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Luke and you you see him winning the
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fight but losing the the battle with you
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know it's just it's completely amazing
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this entire scene where he he's
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constantly trying not to fight him if
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you can you think of another movie where
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the hero repeatedly refuses to fight and
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you don't see him as a coward a chicken
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or you are rooting for him to fight
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anyway and maybe they're people who are
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watching this movie were like I hated it
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when you get thrown as lightsaber I
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wanted to just fight but certain that's
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not me and I am I think this movie works
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for young kids and all kids alike well
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that's what takes it
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that's what takes it to the net to to a
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higher level than so much of those
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movies i think is that there is so much
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conflict in the way that you feel about
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it and the fact that it does perform
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this 180 degree turn where the person
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who I mean again just for me you know
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watching from the first movie
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hey there's gonna be a point the third
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movie were like you really sympathize
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with darth vader and you don't seem as
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just I mean he set up to be the most
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evil person right like four strokes
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people in a boardroom meeting
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yeah i mean like he wears all black he's
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you know like yeah and and yet and yet I
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but at the end he know we're not that
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we've got quite the end but he's he is
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he's the hero and his death is a tragedy
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and if you tell somebody that after
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seeing Star Wars you like are you crazy
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it's like no and say he's the hero Lucas
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the hero
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no no no it's the heroic journey of you
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know it'sit's Vader's journey from to
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redemption right the redemption path and
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that I i think i think that's are a lot
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of retconning and there to put up as he
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has the final rock tax he's very
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important this is kind of the story of
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him but it's the the colleges look story
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and that overall had hit the mannequin
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stories and plateaus and yet no yeah
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well I actually think it's diminished by
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the someplace else but no I totally
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totally diminished i would argue i would
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argue that that ending that whole thing
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is about it's about Luke refusing to
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make the action that will turn him to
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the dark side it is simultaneously about
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Vader choosing to take that action and
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turn away from the dark side and he
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sacrifices himself
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off to kill the Emperor he's the one who
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kills the Emperor right it's it's not
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our hero Luke who makes the decisive act
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that ends the story
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darth vader does a hero Luke does when
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he was trained to do on his hearing
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that's why this thing works is because
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throughout all of his training all three
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everyone is actually told him actually
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it's not all about killing the other guy
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actually it's not all about finding
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actually just a more kind of into you
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know knowledge and defense never to
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attack like and Empire yoda yoda kept
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hammering that interested he didn't say
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you have to go kill Vader you're
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confronted because him otherwise how
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will you know whether you're a good guy
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or bad guys you can control these things
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and some very clear consistent message
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that you just don't buy in the first
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like kids are like yeah yeah knowledge
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in defense yeah that'd be some reason
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why he has to fight him right and
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because we as the audience don't don't
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understand this whole like what do you
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mean yeah alright some knowledge of
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Defense you're a good guy yet karate is
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only supposed to be used for defense but
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in all the karate movies they beat
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people up we're all excited by this
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movie in the end you don't know we were
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serious about that stuff about knowledge
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and events never attack we were serious
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about that and the way Luke wins here is
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by not fighting no seriously not
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fighting at well then how is he going to
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defeat the Empire he's not Vader's going
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to use a climactic Sam you know we sort
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of you know glossed over but that scene
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right where it cuts off you know
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Vader's hand yes exactly like you know
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we saw the end of empire obviously and
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then he we've got that finally the
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payoff of that little you're like your
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father of the mechanical hand thing I
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love it's very subtle and I don't
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remember how much of this was added in
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the special edition but he flexes his
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hand and then at least in the addition
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in the the unspecialized addition there
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is a little like a like a candle sounds
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very subtle though and you know we
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finally put all those pieces together
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and get like manual he really is train
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this guy and we get the payoff of the
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cave scene from Empire even more than at
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the end of empire we get the really like
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you you are having your Vader right if
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you don't stop now you become Vader and
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that is your destiny
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it's like and it's pretty close like one
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more slice into then his head going off
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right right the thing about that shot
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when he's wailing on him there that is
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an exact echo the scene from empire they
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put them on a bridge in the am from
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above and to the left
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it's an exact mirror of the Empire scene
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where they shoot those two on the bridge
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only the roles are reversed
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we are really really great
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overall the way they frame that and we
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get the i was going to say the it's just
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the whole thing is so yeah there's such
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a brutality and such an over-the-top and
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this to it that that really plays to it
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though and you're just watching a gate
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but i just love you know and then we get
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that scene right where he looks at it
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thinks about it throws down the
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lightsaber you know I would want to say
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peace out
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no yeah I'm a Jedi like stuff like my
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father by that little head not go be it
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so be my little head not the him you
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know that the loop does like in gestures
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back to his who is dead
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I'm a Jedi like my father before me and
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then you see the upper just being like
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Nathan payoff
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yeah hit his face drops and he's like so
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be a Jedi and they cut to a different
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scene so you're like has Luke one
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because he says so guys like oh the
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Emperor's admitting defeat that was on
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the test
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just kidding i'm like Willie walk right
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now you get to take over the Empire
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I you know the Emperor's plan was foiled
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he really wanted this to happen and it
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turns out shot and killed the other one
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of them was kind of defeated but not
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really i guess the Empire and I guess
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the Emperor's all done easily go sulk
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away and then they cut back to the
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Emperor says if you will not be turned
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you will be destroyed and lightning
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comes from his hands Lightning comes
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from his hands three movies three movies
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universal Lightning comes from any of
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his hands how many movies have the
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patience to say we're gonna have the
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force and what can you do with the
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fourth we can jump really high you can
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run fast and you can read people's minds
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you can impose people and how about
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lighting from the hands that would have
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been in the first movie and every single
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trailer but they wait for the third
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movie total again total surprise call
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the last 10 minutes do there's no
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internet and no anything you're like
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what lightning because he doesn't have a
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lightsaber that you see at any point
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during this thing is just this old guy
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sitting in a chair right well and you
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finally realized why he's so confident
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young girl only at the end i get i get
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your lighting up my hands I will not
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only keep up the day through forced
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yeah yeah yeah and-and-and this entire
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series saves the big bad guy the Emperor
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for the end of the very last movie like
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you hear the Emperor mentioned in new
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hope you see him in a hologram in Empire
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Strikes Back let's to home movies and
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how many years and you finally get to
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see him and Jedi and he doesn't do
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anything until the end of
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bye yep and yet it work he's gonna fight
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it i know it's because that's that's
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called radiation all about the President
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and this there's a menace conveyed in
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just his being there right he's a
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dramatic threat not like a physical
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threat until the end which is like oh
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yeah he got jammed up didn't get to
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being Emperor just by political
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machination you know it turns out he's
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also she was like me from as a yeah yeah
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he sees Darth Vader's boss righty think
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Darth Vader is bad
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this guy is really really bad because
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Darth Vader kneels before him and
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doesn't matter does not shoot lightning
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from his hands no he has just show
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people and get coffee to fly through the
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air because then and the best part of
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the Emperor doing that as you can tell
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while the Emperor's doing like this is
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the end is like Amber's like well you
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didn't defeat Vader you don't want to
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fight i guess i have to kill you but he
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enjoys his work he's like this is gonna
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be fun i'm gonna make put in lots of
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pain and kill my kids just wrapping up
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the day's work
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everything seems to be gone and he isn't
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he he likes his work he likes killing
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people he likes hurting people
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he's evil is evil I mean he's fully
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embraced all those things Yoda warned
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him about he also wants to show Vader
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you know that he's killing him because
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Vader failed failed at that and I think
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there's some say vism their of the you
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know now I'm gonna kill your son right
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in front of you because you know that's
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what I do Walker you will get that nice
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little detail like that when it gets me
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every time is when you see the loop with
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all the whitening and then there's that
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one scene where is honest I'd sort of
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like riding in pain and you see it go
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like through the bridge of his mouth
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like the reason you have I always pick
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that up as a kid like he's got a
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lightning braces
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oh yeah so hammers so-so Darth Vader
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finally takes action i love that scene
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that was looking back and forth he's
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like mm so then when Lucas on the ground
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saying father please that the reason the
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father please works is because they
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managed to establish a relationship
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between Luke invader like in the first
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movie just like a glance as he's killing
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obi-wan to the relationship is all
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you're the mean guy who killed my mentor
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and then you know they're kind of in a
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space battle but they don't really know
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that they're in the space battle
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together and the second movie of course
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he actually has the confrontation with
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them in a dramatic revelation and that
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makes their relationship way more
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complicated and in this movie they they
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meet again and have an even more
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complicated things so when he's saying
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father please it's not like
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you can do this movie where Luke finds
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out the vader is his father and only do
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you ever do is fight and he says father
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please save me you don't buy it is
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you're like why would why would his
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better care about this kid but they have
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a relationship at this point a weird
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relationship but there's an existing
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relationship so it makes that father
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please save me stuff not seem like he
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would never why would he care about him
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you know just because he's a son and
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we're supposed to believe he does
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they have an established relationship
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and that that makes that that move
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believable to me and not for a second
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that I think he wouldn't say and I think
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it's really important to that point he's
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it's almost to a certain extent if he's
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seeing the Emperor for the first time
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right because you know he's sort of been
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under the thrall of this guy and I think
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in some ways I don't know if you want to
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get like you know really psychological
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about it the loss of his hand and stuff
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and he too has a sort of realization of
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where he is and so he sees this guy
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basically just torturing his son and in
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that moment you know be mean about it is
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being mean about torturing his son the
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wool is taken off his eyes and he's like
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he's just a dad right like his son is
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getting shot by a guy with lightning
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from his hands right like I we've all
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been there
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well and if if Luke gets killed where is
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there to go from better from here
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well they're probably going to try and
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chase that Leia and layers not gonna
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turn so it's gonna be really hard to get
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a promotion when your postures killed
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your son is that were closed so the you
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know he's seeing him in this moment
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Vader is seeing his you know it's too
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late for me son
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this is this is the moment where he
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realizes he can make choice and had
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actually have an effect we're all before
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he has been in the thrall of the Emperor
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and been you know Here I made my
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decision now I have to live with it he
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gets that decision back here and the end
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and makes the different decision and
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although the motions right Luke is our
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hero you know when I say that that
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there's a hero and his death is a
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tragedy and it's shocking that they've
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turned it all the way around like that
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my point is that Luke's what Luke does
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step aside and allow Darth Vader to to
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be the one who makes the change which is
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which is not what you'd probably expect
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from the end of this movie especially
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given how we all feel
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outdoor theater right going into it and
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yet it's great because it's behind of a
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sacrifice for Vader to do right because
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it is he's keeping he's not just in
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terms of his own life but he's basically
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preventing Luke from getting his hands
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dirty by having me killed this guy he's
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saying he's the one committee you know
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what I don't want my son to have the
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burden of having you know murder this
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guy so I'm going to take that upon
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myself it's probably cements the
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pacifist notion of Jedi that is
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throughout all these movies is that the
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Jedi you know it firmly cemented to say
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that the Luke should not do that he
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should rise to fight its kind of this
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kind of reminds me of not to get
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political or anything but like all the
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you know the right-wing politicians who
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profess faith in everything but if they
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never want to do anything things that
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Jesus taught in the Bible so that the
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stories that the stories people focus on
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Jesus helping the poor and everything in
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the Bible it's a pretty clear message
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about what do you want so the end but
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it's like but yeah but they don't really
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mean that right in the same thing with
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this movie is a very clear message about
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what the Jedi stand for in terms of
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using the force and everything like yeah
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but they don't really mean that they
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really do and this is the only way this
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could end with with Luke doing the right
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thing almost not doing it coming very
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close to slicing off haters and you know
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just kind of his hand and and you're
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right that you know it's not that the
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Lucas like elevator you're going to do
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this for me Luke found the strength to
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be true to his teachings into this that
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this Jedi philosophy that he has of
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passivism what we can I can't just it
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boggles my mind is a movie where
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passivism is the awesome thing that
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we're all cheering for that the good
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guys have and the pic guys don't and you
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know it's an exciting dramatic movie
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activity action movie yes
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yeah so so so Luke pulls off Darth
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Vader's mask
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well he's not changing Jones and turns
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out he's not now that know what the
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Masters a filter that makes him sound
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like James Earl Jones we're gonna get
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that felt like a kid out there also
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makes him sound not British and yeah
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exactly
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well only slightly sort of British
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incidentally great the best commentary
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about this he never comes from the the
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kevin smith movie Chasing Amy where they
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talk about the BB it
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this is big black guy and they speak up
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as a scrawny little white guy that's
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running it's not like I'm Dumpty looking
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but he's also he's also about 20 years
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older than then you probably should be
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or something but it is shocking right
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you know you you see not just that he's
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not he's got this you know breathing
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apparatus and all that but he's all
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pasty and scarred and yet and not
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talking looking know it always like this
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is the guy who was just fighting him to
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a standstill right now all of a sudden
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it's just like this old kind of his
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grandfather Lee County guy
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it's it's kind of like he's like in in
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the the test selected he's like the guy
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inside the thing controlling the vader
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outfit right inside like the little man
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inside Anderson the sword I you know im
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stearing Vader were better but and this
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movie just pays off on everything like
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we got to you know in the first movie
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like who's the guy in that mask in the
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second movie like I see the back of his
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head and his masked always good to see
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it and hear it is you were taking it off
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you know everything every needs
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satisfied every plot line paid off in a
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you know in a convincing satisfactory
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manner if television series could all
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end the way
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plot-wise the way that the Star Wars
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trilogy ends there would never be any
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complaints so here's here's my question
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they're flying through the
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superstructure and they blow up the
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Death Star and the Emperor's on the
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Death Star Darth Vader's on the Death
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Star and looks on the Death Star so by
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Luke refusing to fight and Darth Vader
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throwing the Emperor off is the only net
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change here by Luke winning that Luke
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doesn't die is they're gonna blow up the
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Death Star anyway now you don't know if
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the Emperor was still alive he could
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have sense that they were that there was
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a weakness in the plan could have
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escaped lived on Lex day we made lots of
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things you can do like that but but
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really I mean it's sort of like they did
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they double beeping but that's what you
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think this is like I mean you need to
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make sure it's like it's like staking
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him and cutting the head off
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yeah we got the emotional resolution
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well it was this movie is not about the
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Empire versus the rebellion this movie
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is about Luke Skywalker and Darth
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Vader's Jenny yeah yeah so that's what
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you care about it you really cares the
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end like always exciting the Empire no
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longer is in control of the galaxy don't
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really care
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no which is why all the special edition
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scenes at the end off yeah we don't you
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have to start thinking about all the
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implications of what the end having like
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your your government decapitated
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actually meet
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oh my god our currency is going in the
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toilet massive inflation i'll bring a
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obscure random a sci-fi reference to a
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show i liked a lot of Babylon 5 one of
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the interesting things about the show is
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that there's a civil war and it's
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resolved and the show keeps going after
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that and the whole point of it is you
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know yay we won the Civil War
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oh crap now what right and and those the
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special edition seen Star Wars I always
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I always look at those in like yeah you
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know and i know there are novels and at
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that make this point to in the extended
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kind of star wars university its GI
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Emperor's dead that's good but there's a
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whole apparatus of the the Empire and
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it's it's not all just gonna fall apart
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like 15 years in bureaucracy
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yeah it's not yeah it's not gonna be
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like yeah everything's fine now it's
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like your big victory grant like the tax
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collectors all gonna be like me I guess
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we'll go home personal resolution yes
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yeah and to these movies credit they
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don't spend like that they mentioned
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know the Emperor's is all the Senate and
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there's a rebellion and the rebel bit
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rebels are hiding but like that
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machinery is not with these movies about
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this movie is so clearly about this
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central band of character and what
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happens then in specific specifically
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Luke and so all the other stuff is kind
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of like the setting for the movie it's
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not about the rebels vs the Empire it's
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not about the Senate to bring something
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about it like it is totally not part of
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this moment about trade negotiations wow
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that would be bad and just think of the
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amount of screen time they provide they
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give to the Empire versus the rebelling
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it's like a friend you know one or two
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small scenes some of the scroll text and
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some you know but it's just not about
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that right so forest moon of Endor also
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notice and or uh uh Luke comes down they
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burns the the vader outfit or another
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beautiful music put to which to which my
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son says he put the mask back on him
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yeah well you have there was this the
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end of Vader is the ultimate villain
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Victor the villain and the big and the
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innovator transition from being the
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ultimate villain the guy that he looked
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like the big black you know guy in black
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to a tragic figure that's why don't they
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see him as a rock is tragically tried to
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do something to read he redeemed himself
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did he really
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in the end but practically speaking he's
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done so many horrible things that this
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one thing probably just make up for them
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but at he's a tragic figure and it's sad
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music you know burning him and I think
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it's fitting that this same scene was
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using spaced to show that the post
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printable change that was pretty cool
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change in Tim's connection with Star
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Wars because it for Tim it was the end
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of something
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it was the end of Star Wars as this
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touchstone in his life and so he's put
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you know burning it is symbolic I'm
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burning Darth Vader is the end of Darth
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Vader the evil man and now the tragic
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figure you know we have a difference of
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opinion this tremendous you didn't like
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no that and that scene by the way that
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seen since I watched spaced way after it
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aired I didn't really know like the
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timing of the things so I had no idea
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that that you know season two was
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happening around around around 99 i
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watch season two as it aired in the inn
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in the UK and it let me tell you it
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touch the spot my heart yet so I'm
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watching it and then they and they cut
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the universe was you know you're
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starting to a space pod cast they cut 10
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space and make immediately cut to the
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torch scene and I mean you know exactly
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what they're referencing and it just was
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not perfect so i can't i can't see that
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see now that and you think like all your
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you it's kinda like Admiral Ackbar and
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and the breakfast cereal thing oh they
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found it they've ruined the scene in the
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movie that you love because all you can
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think of is the comedy thing
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no I don't mean space as deadly serious
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that isn't that is not comedy to me so
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we get to see our little ghost friends
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one last time they smile at us
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Yoda sitting on the railing and are
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there well yes because it's tiring to be
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a ghost and our theater now with them
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Anakin Skywalker now with them also i
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really enjoyed that that they everybody
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gets to meet up everybody gets hugs
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which gets yes hardy Lando gets to tell
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Jim Bako you suggest about how he threw
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the freaking millennium fawlcon now the
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death star was also did you see what I
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did came out of the fire to just see
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that and you open up and you know of
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which they also changed in the special
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edition to be just more soaring we all
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complain about jar jar and we have some
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complaints about the silly Teddy where
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he works and yet when when asked to
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choose everyone unambiguous he says are
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you been up all the way over that crap
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over any possible
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alternative and and and why is that why
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why do we prefer this ridiculous
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I don't dance i have a soft side over
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the other song but I Yub nub has a you
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know it's it's a terrible way these
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three fantastic movies and with this
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kind of ridiculous you walk music also
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hear it i'll tell you why I think I like
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this the oven up song at and and maybe
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not a good reason but it's a reason it's
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a recent here is that the the Nanyan up
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song the one they replaced it is
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entirely there and all the scenes and
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everything to tie it to the other movies
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that we won't mention and I don't like
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those on the movies so anyway that
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you're going to take something that I
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really like and try to connect it for
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its first fortunately connected with
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something that I really don't like I
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will not like you for all right but what
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if you just took the song and overlaid
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it over the original right and another
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set and now the second thing is I saw it
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when I was a kid and when your kid you
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like this stuff
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music I I have a soft spot for the music
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is why I really remember enjoying that I
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just don't want to see Khorasan tanned
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Naboo or you know I don't want to see I
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don't like the music of the the new
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version either i just don't let it's not
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just the fact that it ties to provide I
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plane just don't like the song it you
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open up is silly but I saw this movie
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when I was a kid and basically it is why
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i think the Jedi what i said in the
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beginning that it does the most
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important thing you have to do it ends
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the series in a satisfying way and it's
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a happy ending more or less there's
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still a tragedy of anagen but you see
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him redeemed in his ghost form and
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everything like that but the good guys
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more or less win and I think for the age
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i watch this it was nice to go through
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the end of three movies especially with
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Empire being such a you know such a blow
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such a shock to the system that
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everything was alright in the end and
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that's one of the things i think makes
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the Star Wars trilogy such such an
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enduring thing is that you liked it see
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it and everything's alright in yet
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satisfying everything gets paid off
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unless you watch them the the first the
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other some other movies and then is not
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a really sad
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what I really love about the the ending
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of Jedi is that is very small you know
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you don't have an epic ending well at
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least unless you're watching the revised
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versions you don't have an epic ending
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of yes everything's great but it's
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really you focus on the various
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characters and I like you but because it
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is kind of you know tribal and
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ritualistic in a way because you're
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joining joining the people that you
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followed this entire time and get wedge
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and Lando get mentions and and the
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droids get a little hat tip because
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they're really important characters in
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the journey but you don't you don't have
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the big epic space battle close out the
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movie you have this small group in a
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very small sort of ceremonial party
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yeah they're not celebrating on the
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bridge of one of their capital ships
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there you know what I mean they're
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celebrating down with the Ewoks and
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they're kinda hang out like you wanted
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the party telling you that was not cool
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that happen and plus explains have
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fireworks coming out of them so there's
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yeah there they they save those first
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yes looking at jobs are equipped with
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yeah that's the rebels the rebels think
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of everything they've got Holograms and
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run things Jason that's right they got a
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plan ever see the Empire throw up
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fireworks don't never to never not once
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never firebombing yes fireworks they got
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yeah typical well I think we've reached
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the end of Star Wars now we truly have I
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yeah i'm going to go back and watch them
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in order again I actually want to try it
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i know it's sacrosanct to bring up the
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prequels blood
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no they're honoring these there are no
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movies machete order i'm curious about
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machete order i have to say oh why would
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you do that we miss you don't need it
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now those movies i mean let me put it
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this way there is perhaps an interesting
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story to be told about events that
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happened before these three movies that
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we love those were not them
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yeah no yeah no but those were not
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seeing as how the movies that we're not
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talking about did get made
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although no I thought we were talking
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about them and I don't think young in DC
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or reorder he doesn't help i get i could
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come up with some very disgusting
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analogies charted frames brother just
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say that
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changing the order of this analysis not
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alright any final thoughts before we
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our of our podcast series about Star
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this was the beginning of the end and it
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kind of was because this is kind of like
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a you know all those bad things that we
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don't like about these movies that we're
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not talking about it we're totally in
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this movie we didn't know it at the time
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but they were all there staring us in
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the face just turned down slightly but i
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still have good feelings about Jedi
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because it did such an important thing
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which is you know we all we've all been
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fans of television series like
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ended in ways that have disappointed
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some people were disappointed and lost
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like you get into a thing you're
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invested in a thing and you get to the
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good part of the middle Empire and then
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they just blow it in the end and they
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almost blew it with too much cutie walks
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off or whatever but in general the
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overall plot line
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Luke that we cared about his deal with
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Vader the space battle the resolution of
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a series totally internally consistent
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and satisfying and every possible way
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everything paid off everything nice so i
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just write do the only things had about
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it is that it's over
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yeah exactly and it's the it's the good
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kind of sad you know you and we're never
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going to see I remember walking out of
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the theater and think while we're never
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gonna see on Solo and Princess player
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Skywalker ever again until someone that
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will be rebooted well I I remember
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leaving and having fantasies about
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episodes you know 1779 yeah I would have
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rather seen those meet you
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well actually I mean there are many
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books some of them terrible some of them
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great you probably wouldn't have rather
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seen them if they'd actually got made by
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George Lucas no I think it's all I think
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it's all for the best
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yeah when I was 11 years old I
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definitely wanted to see ya oh sure I
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wanted to see one day I wanted to see
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what happened before them when I was you
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know 17 before before we knew before we
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knew before the dark time but that was
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before the Empire for the empire but we
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use more machine than they have these we
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have these three and we interested them
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and these three make a complete circle
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there's nothing is to be added before
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them and
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he needs to be added after them so if
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you're listening go back and listen to
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the star wars podcast again just put in
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a repent just keep on going
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yeah people wondering what's the correct
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order to watch the stores movies you
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watch a new hope and very Strikes Back
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and Return of the Jedi that is the
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correct all that's the order and then
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you're done
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Alpha and the Omega yeah you know it's
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alright well we solved all the problems
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of the world and discuss Star Wars so I
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would like to thank my guests in this
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incredible journey that we've taken what
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we do next I don't know we'll have to
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stop stop and reconsider what where we
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go from here for our epic link that
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movie commentaries but i want to thank
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Dan Morgan dan thanks a lot for your eye
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and you are you are one of the most
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devoted star wars fans i have ever met
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and I thank you for lending that
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knowledge to the podcast force will be
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with you Jason always thank you to
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answer any Caldwell so thank you for
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being here
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John syracuse aur the other most devoted
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star wars and I know and I thank you for
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all of your commentary and perspective
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on this too
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thanks Jason wow you just tired out
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you got no more lines yet I and it is
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being one more time I'm gonna call them
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online from the next movie
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Yub nub Jason yah and thank you many
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listeners to be uncomfortable for not
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just your listening to these lengths the
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episodes but to your great positive
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feedback about all of these star wars
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episodes that we've done the feedback on
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on Twitter and an email about the star
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wars episode has been remarkably
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positive it's been very kind
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we glad that you are glad that you have
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liked listening to us talking about Star
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Wars as much as we have liked yammering
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on about it for a grand total of
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probably like six and a half for seven
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hours so so it meant it's like a day you
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just spend a day with us talking about
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thank you for listening to us and until
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next time on the uncomfortable i am
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jason l goodnight and goodbye and good
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riddance and we're gonna go to sleep
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the bike at the editor deterred
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returning oh dude this
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