The Incomparable

00:00:00 ◼   ► I i should tell you the title of this [TS]

00:00:01 ◼   ► episode is going to be obscure [TS]

00:00:02 ◼   ► references and sadness because allah [TS]

00:00:06 ◼   ► says that's that's your stock and trade [TS]

00:00:09 ◼   ► apparently but it's absolutely true [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► absolutely good the incomparable Todd [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► test number 98 july 2012 [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► hi there I'm Lex Friedman i'm joined by [TS]

00:00:28 ◼   ► three very very cool people and they are [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► in no particular order [TS]

00:00:31 ◼   ► John siracusa likes Scott McNulty hello [TS]

00:00:36 ◼   ► and Greg moss either [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► hello and tonight we are all talking [TS]

00:00:43 ◼   ► together about Jonathan Coulton the man [TS]

00:00:47 ◼   ► the myth the internet legend who I guess [TS]

00:00:50 ◼   ► in most of the press I seabed jonathan [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► coulton or joko to his fans these days [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► they sort of describe him as a geek [TS]

00:00:56 ◼   ► rocker [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► I don't know if you guys would accept [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► that label or not but I'm seeing it [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► applied to him more and more but we're [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► going to talk about his music and his [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► over and some of our favorite Colton [TS]

00:01:05 ◼   ► songs and why we like him so much [TS]

00:01:07 ◼   ► so why don't we just to sort of get [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► things started [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► kick off by discussing how you first [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► became aware of Jonathan cold what your [TS]

00:01:16 ◼   ► introduction to him was and I pic Scott [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► McNulty to go first [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► ah alright i have prepared this because [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► i knew that i had blogged about when i [TS]

00:01:28 ◼   ► first heard about Jonathan Coulton so i [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► googled myself and jonathan coulton and [TS]

00:01:33 ◼   ► read my blog post so i could remember [TS]

00:01:37 ◼   ► what how is this show is so he did a [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► cover of a baby got back [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► as we all may remember and so someone [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► linked that on their blog and a so this [TS]

00:01:50 ◼   ► was what in 2006 i guess so that's when [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► he first came across my radar and then [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► he started doing a bunch of other things [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► that got more attention and he did the [TS]

00:02:03 ◼   ► thing weak stuff and then he did the [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► portal song and got very popular and and [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► so that's my story and I'm sticking to [TS]

00:02:10 ◼   ► it [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► excellent job not surprisingly my first [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► encounter with him was also the baby got [TS]

00:02:17 ◼   ► back song and I don't even remember [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► where I got it from was one of those [TS]

00:02:19 ◼   ► things you get floating around the [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► internet and I'd I didn't make any [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► connection of an artist with it because [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► you know when you get songs on the [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► internet and I go hey listen to this one [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► song let's do you like an yeah it's nice [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► I and then you forget about it all right [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► but just one for whatever reason like I [TS]

00:02:36 ◼   ► did basically forget about it and they [TS]

00:02:37 ◼   ► were like oh there's this guy doing this [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► thing where he's going to record a song [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► every week and his name is not say Frank [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► although you might get them confused [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► initially a micro yeah i think i saw the [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► guys didn't even notice guys doing music [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► and it's like a new one every weekend [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► starts up i want to his website and I [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► said hey that's the guy who did the baby [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► got back think so he went from a one-hit [TS]

00:02:55 ◼   ► internet wonder immediately to a guy [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► whose name I should remember and watch [TS]

00:03:00 ◼   ► for and I watched thing week with [TS]

00:03:02 ◼   ► varying levels of interest because it [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► still is still at that point I'm like [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► alright so we did this cute cover and [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► he's trying to these songs with some of [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► them are kind of crazy but you know I [TS]

00:03:09 ◼   ► you know I might come together but [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► probably he's doomed to failure but as [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► we all know he did not fail and he just [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► continued to grow in stature and I'm I [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► following of him became more and more [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► rabbit overtime culminating in today [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► great was baby got back your [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► introduction as well I it might have [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► been but the only the first conscious [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► memory I have Jonathan Coulton is code [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► monkey i bet there was a period where [TS]

00:03:33 ◼   ► people sensitive singer-songwriters were [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► recording various rap songs i have and i [TS]

00:03:40 ◼   ► don't remember her name but she's a [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► sensitive singer-songwriter who recorded [TS]

00:03:43 ◼   ► straight outta compton and I really like [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► that and so I remember looking for [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► others and finding a couple and I maybe [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► baby got back was among those but the [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► first time I remember the name jonathan [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► coulton was codemonkey late comer [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► understood you know I for me was not it [TS]

00:04:02 ◼   ► wasn't code monkey and it wasn't baby [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► got back but it was during I i had a [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► friend a longtime friend and [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► collaborator who i would write songs [TS]

00:04:12 ◼   ► with Goofy songs with all the time and [TS]

00:04:14 ◼   ► it was the week but it is baby got back [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► was part of thing a week 1 which I guess [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► we could talk a little bit about more [TS]

00:04:19 ◼   ► than a couple minutes but the week [TS]

00:04:21 ◼   ► before baby got back was released [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► release the song called shop vac and it [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► was my friend Seth sent me links to look [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► at this guy he's trying to do a song [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► every week for a year [TS]

00:04:30 ◼   ► why didn't we think of that that's [TS]

00:04:32 ◼   ► certainly we don't have the talent or [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► musicianship or even you know any of the [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► the brilliant sensibilities that that [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► Colton has but so I heard that song shot [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► back and I had to go back and listen to [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► the first couple of songs that he had [TS]

00:04:43 ◼   ► done and then I was listening every week [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► and you know they're at at one point at [TS]

00:04:48 ◼   ► first I was just going to his blog where [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► he was posting these songs as you record [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► them each week and then I would at some [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► point he put made them available for [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► purchase on his website and when he made [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► them available for purchase [TS]

00:04:59 ◼   ► he had go to the website and such a way [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► that was very easy to get all the songs [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► without paying for them which I did and [TS]

00:05:05 ◼   ► then felt terribly about and then I went [TS]

00:05:07 ◼   ► and paypal him and his amnesty program [TS]

00:05:10 ◼   ► to make up for my wrongdoing and i still [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► feel bad about it which is why I'm [TS]

00:05:16 ◼   ► admitting to it publicly now you're a [TS]

00:05:18 ◼   ► disappointment to us all [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► yeah well so I i asked everybody to come [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► prepared with their three favorite [TS]

00:05:26 ◼   ► jonathan coulton songs with it was for [TS]

00:05:29 ◼   ► me that was a very difficult decision [TS]

00:05:30 ◼   ► was I think probably even harder than [TS]

00:05:32 ◼   ► sophie's choice but she's never there [TS]

00:05:36 ◼   ► was some there was some debate before [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► the show about whether this was going to [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► be draft style meeting each long curly [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► picked will be picked once or not and I [TS]

00:05:44 ◼   ► have made the executive decision that [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► multiple people can pick the same songs [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► because I want them to be true to their [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► three favorites and because he [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► disapproves of that approach [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► I'll let Jonathan siracusa go first [TS]

00:05:58 ◼   ► Jonathan they tell us your first of your [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► three favorite songs that need not be in [TS]

00:06:01 ◼   ► any particular order a call me Jonathan [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► because it's jonathan coulton reference [TS]

00:06:04 ◼   ► because you think my name is actually [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► Jonathan I guess was because i was [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► thinking of cold and I was looking at my [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► Jonathan cold notes inside all right [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► well you know job just pretend to [TS]

00:06:13 ◼   ► Google's I i we had this is an ordered [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► list or unordered this is unordered list [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► this is ul alright i guess i'm going to [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► start with probably indeed takes the [TS]

00:06:24 ◼   ► throne for all time favorite but it [TS]

00:06:25 ◼   ► wasn't my original favorite so it's kind [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► of like my current favorite but i think [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► it will be tough to knock off of this [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► person that it's not a particularly [TS]

00:06:32 ◼   ► unique or interesting favorite and about [TS]

00:06:34 ◼   ► other people have picked it but there [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► you have it [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► it is the future soon which is a song [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► that's about as straightforward as a [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► gentleman called the song can be it's [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► about a disaffected nerdy youth and [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► robots and cyborgs and all those sorts [TS]

00:06:51 ◼   ► of things you would imagine a parody [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► jonathan coulton song will be about [TS]

00:06:55 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:07:05 ◼   ► last guy no llores it said I love you [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► signed anonymous friend turns out modern [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► that thought [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► she knows [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► now the whole [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► do and [TS]

00:07:24 ◼   ► game on [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► double skate [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► she died [TS]

00:07:33 ◼   ► but I know [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► what happened [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► don't know [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► the way things that maybe [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► just and the reason i like it took a [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► while to grow on me because a lot of the [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► songs first listening to him i tend to [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► listen to music listening for the music [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► first and lyrics second and so I didn't [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► really listen to what the lyrics are [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► about my god just kind of like a [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► mid-tempo rocky kind of song whatever I [TS]

00:08:09 ◼   ► and then as I listened to it a couple [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► more times I actually listened to the [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► lyrics with sound strange talking about [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► Jonathan Coulton song I listen to lyrics [TS]

00:08:16 ◼   ► but it's just the way things tend to [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► grow on me and the thing I love so much [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► about the story is that it starts out as [TS]

00:08:21 ◼   ► a kind of clichéd like oh I'm a nerd [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► and you know I have a crush on a girl [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► but she doesn't like me and I'm sad [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► right you know that that's not going [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► anywhere right but it quickly turns into [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► a story about all right well that's my [TS]

00:08:36 ◼   ► life now but things will get better [TS]

00:08:37 ◼   ► later because i will use my big nerdy [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► brain to do these awesome things and [TS]

00:08:43 ◼   ► maybe i'll work on my own you know race [TS]

00:08:45 ◼   ► of a robot android army that might [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► destroy the world and then i'll go and [TS]

00:08:51 ◼   ► talk to her and you know we'll finally [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► get together potential realize I'm the [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► guy who destroyed the entire rent so [TS]

00:08:57 ◼   ► it's it it's an elaborate fantasy spun [TS]

00:08:59 ◼   ► out by this nerdy guy and it doesn't end [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► and hey i will have this elaborate [TS]

00:09:02 ◼   ► fantasy and in the end of my fantasy I [TS]

00:09:04 ◼   ► will get the girl and I'll show them all [TS]

00:09:06 ◼   ► it ends in a self-destructive conclusion [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► where despite his best efforts or [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► because of his best efforts he ends up [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► you know destroying the things that he [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► loves totally consumed by bitterness and [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► enslaving this girl that he's after so [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► it's I loved it so much because it's it [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► nicely captures the feeling of when [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► you're you know a nerdy kid that even in [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► your fantasy scenarios things and [TS]

00:09:28 ◼   ► horribly for you and it's all because [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► it's all because of your own instincts [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► and you're like you know like this the [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► sentiment underlying it all that you [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► know all these awkward things about me [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► we'll go in the future and I'll be [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► better but this the realization that you [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► know wherever you go there you are like [TS]

00:09:43 ◼   ► I'm gonna have to become okay with [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► myself otherwise things are going to [TS]

00:09:46 ◼   ► turn out nicely in the end and that that [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► kind of bittersweet pessimistic [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► optimistic you know cliche but counter [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► cliche thing is like the perfect the [TS]

00:09:58 ◼   ► perfect formula for that Jonathan [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► Coulton in my mind that's that's my [TS]

00:10:01 ◼   ► favorite [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► it's you know and for me one thing i [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► like about that one specifically is just [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► the the phrasing of the the title and [TS]

00:10:09 ◼   ► thus the course you know that I just [TS]

00:10:11 ◼   ► feel like the that term that is going to [TS]

00:10:13 ◼   ► be the future soon as a a clever way of [TS]

00:10:16 ◼   ► phrasing that conceit yeah i mean that [TS]

00:10:19 ◼   ► the title is a little he's very good [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► with the word play like his songs are [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► like the most straightforward like [TS]

00:10:24 ◼   ► they're not too clever but they're just [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► a little bit off and he's just very [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► tight and very concise with with the [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► music and the lyrics it's his is a great [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► songwriter I'm really surprised that you [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► listen to the music before you listen to [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► the words just in general [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► well like you know just knowing you're [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► auditioning songs like especially when i [TS]

00:10:42 ◼   ► was doing things a week it's like let's [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► see what he's got this week and you [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► listen to it's like some of them like [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► the music production quality is not [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► great and and some of the things a week [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► things and you never know which one is [TS]

00:10:51 ◼   ► going to come out and like he has really [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► good pop sensibilities with hooks but [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► sometimes the one with the best hooks [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► have the least interesting lyrics you [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► know and and it was one every single [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► week and i was paying you know kind of [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► tangential attention so that's that's [TS]

00:11:03 ◼   ► how i came to this and I circle back [TS]

00:11:05 ◼   ► around eventually and and and the future [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► soon you know when to the top of verses [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► my second choice which I listened to the [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► lyrics right off for some reason and [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► that was my old favorite so we'll get to [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► that next you know I just want to ask [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► have you ever heard John the i fight [TS]

00:11:19 ◼   ► dragons cover of the future soon i [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► probably have at this point i've heard [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► many covers of many developing called [TS]

00:11:25 ◼   ► songs but I don't recognize the the [TS]

00:11:26 ◼   ► artist [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► it's aight i didn't know the artist [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► before that cover but it sort of I don't [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► know that if the writers like a chip to [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► notice it's got a video game sound ya to [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► it it's very well done anyway i Fight [TS]

00:11:37 ◼   ► Dragons the cover the future student if [TS]

00:11:39 ◼   ► the future soon is like a robot [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► apocalypse version of an it gets better [TS]

00:11:43 ◼   ► video right but doesn't get better right [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► it gets worse it gets better the says [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► that he does get to destroy the world [TS]

00:11:50 ◼   ► and no one else did but he still doesn't [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► get what he wanted [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► there's nowhere you can hide yeah yeah [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► yeah that that is going to be a theme i [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► think of this discussion but you can't [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► always get what you want but if you try [TS]

00:12:00 ◼   ► sometimes you just might find that you [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► fail anyway [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► yeah I think that's right in my [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► introduction colon remains my favorite [TS]

00:12:09 ◼   ► which is code monkey going to get up.get [TS]

00:12:11 ◼   ► copy good monkey go to job code monkey a [TS]

00:12:17 ◼   ► boring meeting boring manager Rob very [TS]

00:12:24 ◼   ► diligent but its output this elegant [TS]

00:12:30 ◼   ► good monkey fake [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► because I it's a song that of course is [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► about a nerdy guy who can't get the girl [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► which has a particular relevance to my [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► life prior to my marriage but there's [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► also it was the first song that my kids [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► really took to that wasn't the kids song [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► you know they listened to a whole bunch [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► of crap that was aimed at them that was [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► marketed at them you know that was [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► designed for five-year-olds and code [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► monkey was the first song that we they [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► didn't I listen to that they asked to [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► have played and like my eldest son he [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► would take a sheet of eight and a half [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► by 11 paper and he latched onto the line [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► big fuzzy secret heart and he drew a [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► heart the size of the page [TS]

00:13:48 ◼   ► Andrew very fine hairs around the [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► outside of it and put a classified stamp [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► over it and hang it on the fridge and so [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► because i have very literal-minded [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► children so it'sit's I associate the [TS]

00:13:59 ◼   ► song not only with really enjoying it [TS]

00:14:01 ◼   ► and it having relevance to me but also [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► that Mike kids came into an age when [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► they started growing up when they [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► stopped being kids and they started [TS]

00:14:09 ◼   ► looking at a wider world and finding [TS]

00:14:11 ◼   ► things that that I could enjoy that they [TS]

00:14:13 ◼   ► could also enjoy the same time it's the [TS]

00:14:15 ◼   ► very transitional phase and it will [TS]

00:14:18 ◼   ► always stick with me because of that you [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► know what I think of that song I think [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► of him sitting was I don't even remember [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► that was a thing of weeks on but all the [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► songs i think of him sitting there and [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► saying okay I gotta write a song so we [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► got our song always need a reason so [TS]

00:14:29 ◼   ► come meet me an idea i come to the idea [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► of you know okay you ready i can't get [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► the girl kinda to that already but hit [TS]

00:14:34 ◼   ► the idea that makes them go you know now [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► I got it is that ok I'm going to the [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► lyrics like in like monkey speak right [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► now so it's so it's you know it's double [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► like I could just do this is a [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► straight-ahead song but i'm also going [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► to do them you know codemonkey get up [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► get coffee like and caveman speak and [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► that's it that once you have the idea [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► then it's off to the races and that that [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► is a great idea and it adds like a an [TS]

00:14:53 ◼   ► extra you know level of difficulty to [TS]

00:14:55 ◼   ► undo the song but the challenge myself [TS]

00:14:57 ◼   ► since I've done these nerdy songs i'm [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► gonna do it as a monkey and it makes it [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► 10 * better i also think it works on two [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► levels both as monkey speak and as [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► pseudo code [TS]

00:15:04 ◼   ► yep that works well and it was thinking [TS]

00:15:08 ◼   ► we could stay a week 3 what I always [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► think about with code monkey is [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► you know Jonathan Colton's job before he [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► decided I'm gonna quit and start doing [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► this thing a weakling photo year it was [TS]

00:15:17 ◼   ► a coder and he's you know he said that [TS]

00:15:19 ◼   ► this song is not exactly he said that [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► the boss part is how to fire a graphical [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► but the the pining after the specific [TS]

00:15:26 ◼   ► woman was not but I mean I was once a [TS]

00:15:28 ◼   ► code monkey and I just I hated I mean [TS]

00:15:30 ◼   ► there's things about programming that i [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► like but doing programming where [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► specifically doing one of the persons [TS]

00:15:34 ◼   ► building and you can flex any creative [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► muscle i understand that monkey [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► mentality and not wanting to be the [TS]

00:15:39 ◼   ► monkey [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► I don't know that that's always what I [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► think about him working in that job and [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► not loving it [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► there's also the my children really [TS]

00:15:47 ◼   ► adoring the line goddamn login page they [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► took particular delight in that just [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► singing the song dad that's interesting [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► that he's able to communicate like I you [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► know I don't know if I knew he was a [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► programmer at the time I listen to that [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► but I said he is using the correct [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► vocabulary modified by the monkey speak [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► / pseudocode to express a sin to make [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► with the correct language like I a [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► counterexample this would be kind of [TS]

00:16:17 ◼   ► like a weird al's all about the Pentiums [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► which you can tell we're down two tons [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► of good research to get his lyrics to be [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► technically accurate but you could also [TS]

00:16:24 ◼   ► tell that weird al is not a programmer [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► right i mean whereas in this one he [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► there are very few technical words in it [TS]

00:16:30 ◼   ► all but the monkey speak yet you know [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► right god damn log in page himself [TS]

00:16:34 ◼   ► that's how managers would talk about [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► things we need to login page on this [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► like if you were working on the web as a [TS]

00:16:38 ◼   ► programmer during that time that lingo [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► coming from bosses talk to you know [TS]

00:16:43 ◼   ► spitting it back at them you know rings [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► true and I think I feel like even the [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► the tab mountain dew work and the other [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► that they wouldn't necessarily be it i [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► don't know that that weird i would have [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► gone to tab mountain dew [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► I mean I really like we don't feel like [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► that's but that's that's that's an [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► insider knowledge not those are Insider [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► E sodas but just to know that that that [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► level of caffeine is what's important to [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► certain app code monkeys i think is good [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► all right Scott hit us with your first [TS]

00:17:10 ◼   ► choice [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► okay well I i am a person who does not [TS]

00:17:15 ◼   ► enjoy Christmas generally but i do enjoy [TS]

00:17:17 ◼   ► Christmas songs and i also enjoy [TS]

00:17:21 ◼   ► Christmas socks that are mostly [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► inappropriate for Christmas and so [TS]

00:17:25 ◼   ► Jonathan has a number of these songs in [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► him and my favorite is a chiron beta [TS]

00:17:31 ◼   ► prime this here is there a crazy party [TS]

00:17:34 ◼   ► and you Mary [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► it's in trouble [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► here the council had a Spanish [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► right that has [TS]

00:17:45 ◼   ► No [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► red time [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► merry Christmas from chyron beta pride [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► where we were [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► which tells the story of a family who [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► has been captured or sent to a planet [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► where they are mining things and you [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► know being punished and they don't they [TS]

00:18:13 ◼   ► can only tell it's Christmas because [TS]

00:18:15 ◼   ► they have scrawled in their cell the [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► number of days it has been since they [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► were captured and so they they're [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► singing they sing the song to uh as a [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► christmas greeting to their friends and [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► then they try to slip in a plea for help [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► but then Jon Coulton cleverly put in a [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► robot voice that says message redacted [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► so you don't hear that part of the song [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► and so it just lights me to play the [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► song during christmas so that i can ruin [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► everyone else's Christmas when you're [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► the guy who kept voting for grandma got [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► run over by a reindeer on dr. Demento [TS]

00:18:49 ◼   ► where yeah that was but yes you know I i [TS]

00:18:53 ◼   ► had chiron beta prime on my backup list [TS]

00:18:55 ◼   ► you know since I couldn't live with [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► myself 23 at first but I i will say and [TS]

00:19:00 ◼   ► I really really like the song i have i [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► have complaints I know [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► here are my complaints and i have put [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► two number one first I think you know [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► the first verses i think are very [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► brilliantly know the lyrics are really [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► brilliantly done you know that you know [TS]

00:19:15 ◼   ► that the the hardships their enduring [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► having undermine their holiday cheer and [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► you know did I say overlords I mean [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► protectors i really like when singers [TS]

00:19:23 ◼   ► correct themselves during a song you [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► know because it's as if the song is [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► happening right then live you know I [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► like that but my two problems are one [TS]

00:19:30 ◼   ► with that message rejected line which is [TS]

00:19:32 ◼   ► a great joke the whole thing is a song [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► and its it all Rhymes and I cannot come [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► up with a realistic line that could have [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► gone there that would have run before [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► they rejected the message and I don't [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► like that i want to know what they're [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► going to say and then to is just two [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► lines later he makes the Soylent Green [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► joke and i think that the Soylent Green [TS]

00:19:52 ◼   ► joke is below beneath him and beneath [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► the song i like good soil green joke so [TS]

00:19:58 ◼   ► i will allow it I only can criticize the [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► song because of how much i love I the [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► this doesn't to track for my overall [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► enjoyment of the song but because I have [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► such you know fandom for it I feel like [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► it's important for me to voice these two [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► can separate it you've done a service [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► for the world likes don't worry anybody [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► else want to weigh in on chiron beta [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► prime this is I think the first time [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► we've mentioned it's not from being a [TS]

00:20:25 ◼   ► week directly right well maybe it was [TS]

00:20:29 ◼   ► never my number on it from think a week [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► to my nokia cool i know nothing i'm [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► curious to see if anybody pics anything [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► from artificial heart i have two [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► selections from artificial heart people [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► into the onion on your main list on your [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► mind on my main list i have my have one [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► from artificial heart as well so my [TS]

00:20:47 ◼   ► first pick is not from artificial heart [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► and it is one of the few songs i think [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► that I could say that I love that has a [TS]

00:20:53 ◼   ► colon in the title and that is read your [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► brains [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► hey Tom it's bob from the office down [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► all [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► good to see you buddy have you been [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► things have been ok for me except that [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► i'm a zombie now really wish you [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► the guys big for all of us [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► going to say I understand [TS]

00:21:28 ◼   ► y-you my desert submit to our [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► here's why [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► you are [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► where [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► I mean no [TS]

00:21:49 ◼   ► we haven't discussed yet you know how [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► you would classify jonathan coulton you [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► know I think that too many people he's [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► you know a human musician a comic [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► musician and I think you know some [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► people he might even they might even [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► apply the novelty label to him I i don't [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► think any of those really apply I think [TS]

00:22:07 ◼   ► he's a musician who happens to also be [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► very funny and to inject many of his [TS]

00:22:10 ◼   ► songs with humor but i enjoy some of his [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► seriousness as much as i enjoy the [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► humerus ones rear brains is I is pretty [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► much a straight comedy song which i [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► think is an exception for him overall [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► but i really like it [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► read your brains is told in the form of [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► sort of that a memo or a series of memos [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► from one co-worker to another and [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► clearly these workers who didn't get get [TS]

00:22:33 ◼   ► along well before the zombie apocalypse [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► and now that one of them is hiding [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► inside a ball and the other is the [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► zombie and the dictator of the letter [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► expressing his his desire to get inside [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► and eat his former colleagues brain and [TS]

00:22:48 ◼   ► his inability to do so yet but i really [TS]

00:22:50 ◼   ► i think this song is it's funny because [TS]

00:22:52 ◼   ► it like we mentioned earlier you know [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► John you said that you always like to [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► listen to the music first and then you [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► go to lyrics I'm very much the opposite [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► with all the music i listen to for me if [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► I don't like the lyrics than the song is [TS]

00:23:01 ◼   ► of no interest to me I think that your [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► brains uniquely has a very I don't know [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► the best work for compelling is that it [TS]

00:23:10 ◼   ► but very cleverly implemented chord [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► structure and I think the lyrics are [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► also just really i think they concede [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► there can only be as far as I'm [TS]

00:23:17 ◼   ► concerned they're going to be one song [TS]

00:23:19 ◼   ► told from the perspective of a still [TS]

00:23:22 ◼   ► very coherent zombie and jonathan [TS]

00:23:24 ◼   ► coulton wrote it and owns it and I just [TS]

00:23:26 ◼   ► I think it's excellent that the [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► brilliant thing about the song is that [TS]

00:23:29 ◼   ► like like his other songs that he's he's [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► got an idea like a letter from a zombie [TS]

00:23:33 ◼   ► right but that the entire song is a a no [TS]

00:23:36 ◼   ► parodied statement against office [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► culture for is in a way that's not so [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► distant from actual office culture you [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► know like but with the zombies you know [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► your colleagues who uses stupid business [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► speak are like one centimeter we removed [TS]

00:23:50 ◼   ► from being zombies so to see them as [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► zombies it's like not that much of a [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► stretch and the things they say that [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► things they say are you know with the [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► exception of the part about eating [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► brains every other word in this song [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► could believe [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► they come out of their mouths in the [TS]

00:24:02 ◼   ► course of a normal office day because [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► they're just crazy [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► sociopaths that you have to work with [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► and then they just finally admit you [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► know I'm not a monster Tom well okay [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► technically I am [TS]

00:24:11 ◼   ► that's one of his strengths is that he [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► takes solid I mean all the songs we've [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► mentioned so far have been really high [TS]

00:24:17 ◼   ► concept there's something in the title [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► that tells you what the song is going to [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► be about but the song itself isn't just [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► that joke repeated over and over and [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► over there again more layers to it [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► that's it that's definitely right [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► the title is not the only joke and it's [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► not the only meaning promise isn't the [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► only joke lyrics like everything [TS]

00:24:33 ◼   ► everything builds on itself and most of [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► his songs kind of like Bruce Springsteen [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► most of his songs like go somewhere you [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► know like a story and you know it's it's [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► interesting because you know i mentioned [TS]

00:24:43 ◼   ► that i i'm i'm a big fan of Al Yankovic [TS]

00:24:46 ◼   ► when you talk about that song like it's [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► all about the Pentiums he has a tendency [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► to do what he even classifies as a list [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► song you know here's my funny concept [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► and i'm going to give funny example [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► after fun example and I think that great [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► you nailed it that is not the approach [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► that that's not the approach to that [TS]

00:25:00 ◼   ► Colton takes he definitely tries to [TS]

00:25:02 ◼   ► build and to not just build on jokes if [TS]

00:25:05 ◼   ► it's a funny song but you know to build [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► somewhere and just that the actual [TS]

00:25:08 ◼   ► office speak that he puts in that song [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► and that fits so naturally coming out of [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► the zombies mouth is just so perfect [TS]

00:25:14 ◼   ► night table table this for now I'm sure [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► we get the common ground [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► you know you've heard these in any [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► anybody who's ever worked in corporate [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► America has or these terms and I i enjoy [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► the part where they are trying to talk [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► about of the lock himself in a room [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► writing is like who [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► no one's going to eat your eyes to worry [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► we know that this want to bring a great [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► for like they're supposed to be you know [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► using their smooth business speak but [TS]

00:25:37 ◼   ► they just they just matter-of-factly say [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► why don't you will come to a decision [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► are compromised will be you open the [TS]

00:25:42 ◼   ► door welcome and then we'll eat your [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► brains and I didn't realize their you [TS]

00:25:45 ◼   ► know this that there the zombies is [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► taking over there just coming right out [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► and saying what they wanted trying to [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► get some really hot i don't know how [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► many of you that I know that John has I [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► don't have any of you seen Jonathan [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► Coulton live but when he performs [TS]

00:25:58 ◼   ► rearrange live the first thing before [TS]

00:26:00 ◼   ► the song starts as hell and he'll ask [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► the audience to practicing the course he [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► wants the audience to perform the zombie [TS]

00:26:05 ◼   ► portion of the chorus and generally [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► speaking the audience will sing it well [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► and then he'll correct them afterward [TS]

00:26:11 ◼   ► say no no remember you are the undead [TS]

00:26:13 ◼   ► you want [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► Tommy's you must sing it much worse than [TS]

00:26:15 ◼   ► that and that he encourages the audience [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► to sing it much more horribly instead I [TS]

00:26:19 ◼   ► always enjoyed that experience this is [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► the one public forum in which my singing [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► abilities are valued and appreciated [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► finally finally I have a reason a [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► command to sing very badly and yes I can [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► do that [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► yes I've seen my many times all the [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► times I am yelling at the top of my [TS]

00:26:35 ◼   ► lungs and horrible totally off-key [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► zombie saying it was like god that guy [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► is so good at this army thing [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► yeah give us a sample no thank you [TS]

00:26:44 ◼   ► what happened we're not Jonathan Coulton [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► and I am NOT a giant audience right but [TS]

00:26:47 ◼   ► yes you should go to show so you two can [TS]

00:26:49 ◼   ► participate in this ritual i have i've [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► been lucky enough to go so let's go [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► around to John you got to start round [TS]

00:26:58 ◼   ► one so you get to start round two as [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► well so this was my original favorite [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► jonathan coulton song and it is kind of [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► like you know the beginners fisher price [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► my first jonathan coulton song because [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► if you don't know who he is and you're [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► not sure you write this type of thing [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► you get the song and it will introduce [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► you in a gentle way to what he's all [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► about its i crush everything like to [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► swim getting dizzy in your way getting [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► close [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► have to touch you [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► man [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► bringing down [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► more [TS]

00:27:41 ◼   ► for baby [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► because [TS]

00:27:50 ◼   ► crush [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► so the premise of the song is not [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► apparent on first listening this is kind [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► of a nice thing and you know i crush [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► everything is kind of like Oh what was [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► me everything I touch gets destroyed or [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► whatever and that's what you think the [TS]

00:28:06 ◼   ► first 12 times you listen to it because [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► you just like our least if you're like [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► me you're like la-di-da fine whatever [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► but then if you actually listen to the [TS]

00:28:12 ◼   ► lyrics that it's like they don't seem to [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► be making any sense of what the heck are [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► they talking about [TS]

00:28:16 ◼   ► I very little if you pay just the [TS]

00:28:19 ◼   ► smallest bit of attention what this song [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► is about will reveal itself to you know [TS]

00:28:23 ◼   ► deep thought required no deep cultural [TS]

00:28:26 ◼   ► knowledge of anything it's about a giant [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► squid and what he does is he can't help [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► himself but pole shifts down and you [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► know to destroy them because that's what [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► giant squids do is stereotypically and [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► he feels bad about it and every lyric in [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► the song is like I'm going to you know [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► this is this look seems like a simple [TS]

00:28:42 ◼   ► song listen to for a second it's about [TS]

00:28:44 ◼   ► giant squid and it's not obscurely about [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► giant squid it's straightforwardly about [TS]

00:28:48 ◼   ► giant squid like you know doesn't say [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► hey I'm a giant squid but it does [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► everything but I and I love the [TS]

00:28:54 ◼   ► sentiment of you know sort of a nice [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► kind of a self tonight and I can't [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► believe we have to pick three songs i [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► can pick up a hundred songs but it's [TS]

00:29:02 ◼   ► kind of like it yeah it was me kind of [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► song like in a big bad world one or [TS]

00:29:06 ◼   ► something like that [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► I very simple and straightforward but [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► the fact that it's about a giant squid [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► just tickles me and turns the song on [TS]

00:29:14 ◼   ► it's a year and that was that was my [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► favorite before the future soon [TS]

00:29:16 ◼   ► surpassed it i've said this once before [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► and been wrong but I can now say with [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► conviction this is the first song we've [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► selected that is not a thing of weeks on [TS]

00:29:26 ◼   ► this was from his his album where [TS]

00:29:28 ◼   ► tradition meets tomorrow it'll just flow [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► that wasn't the future soon also from [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► that was that [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► yeah attractions near our house the [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► future soon and I crush everything [TS]

00:29:38 ◼   ► well I never said I was good at all [TS]

00:29:40 ◼   ► right you guys still remember what songs [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► come from what albums i don't know why [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► I've been looking on the wikipedia page [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► i actually bought physical kind of kelly [TS]

00:29:51 ◼   ► cds and they came and they are but [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► they're just jumbled into a random [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► shuffle and I told her I never even [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► opened because i had the songs before [TS]

00:29:58 ◼   ► that that's the thing about like I i [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► crush everything you do it anytime i'm [TS]

00:30:04 ◼   ► introduced to a new subculture new [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► artist i assume that the song [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► sure about giant squids and then usually [TS]

00:30:09 ◼   ► I'm disappointed but it's all these [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► songs that I've heard people say that [TS]

00:30:15 ◼   ► about Jonathan Coulton is you can tell [TS]

00:30:17 ◼   ► how experienced the listener is by [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► whether they laugh or whether they're [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► sad because the songs i'll start out [TS]

00:30:22 ◼   ► with jokes i mean there are definite [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► jokes here but as you get deeper into [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► the sentiment of the song there's real [TS]

00:30:29 ◼   ► profound sadness at the core of a lot of [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► them yet or like or ironic poking at [TS]

00:30:35 ◼   ► your own sadness again big bad world one [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► you know where it's it's it's that we [TS]

00:30:39 ◼   ► should get this when we get to more [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► general comments about John Caldwell [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► saver [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► okay well if we're gonna have we're [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► gonna get to those that i will move us [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► along at a slightly more rapid clip Greg [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► your second song my my second is going [TS]

00:30:53 ◼   ► to be Skullcrusher mountain and i know [TS]

00:30:55 ◼   ► its high concept and I know there's a [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► lot of jokes in there but i just-i i [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► adore the pony verse this have money at [TS]

00:31:03 ◼   ► monkey monster to please you [TS]

00:31:10 ◼   ► like it what's with [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► all screaming you like my be like me [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► so much any I [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► is too [TS]

00:31:24 ◼   ► he's isn't [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► No [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► honey [TS]

00:31:34 ◼   ► and it just specifically one line or he [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► says what's with all the screaming that [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► that reaction is so perfect and so I [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► mean again it's following the same [TS]

00:31:45 ◼   ► template as future soon and code monkey [TS]

00:31:48 ◼   ► is your sad little man wants the girl [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► but the the setting of the song and then [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► of course when you're in love with [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► somebody and they don't reciprocate [TS]

00:31:58 ◼   ► you're going to build them a half pony [TS]

00:32:00 ◼   ► half monkey monster [TS]

00:32:02 ◼   ► I mean that just makes sense and then [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► when wench the she has the normal [TS]

00:32:08 ◼   ► reaction the deed [TS]

00:32:10 ◼   ► what's with all the screaming I don't [TS]

00:32:12 ◼   ► understand why you would react that way [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► I always and maybe this is my own lack [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► of imagination but I always listen to [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► school crusher mountain is being the [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► future realized by the title character [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► in the future for the best for the [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► future soon hopefully this this is what [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► he has done [TS]

00:32:29 ◼   ► I think it's more gothic less [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► science-fictiony that's fair i was [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► thinking i was like the James Bond [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► villain in the volcano lair [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► yeah I don't think yes this is another [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► song we're like the song doesn't come [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► out and say hey I'm dr. evil i'm in my [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► volcano lair but just straightforwardly [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► this is even less obscured then i crush [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► everything we're remember if you listen [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► to anything lyrics as alright well this [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► is obviously some kind of super villain [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► and here's what the supervillain wants [TS]

00:32:51 ◼   ► and he behaves in the way the [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► supervillain does who is acclimated to [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► being a supervillain surrounded by yes [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► men who and doesn't understand the way [TS]

00:32:59 ◼   ► you operate in polite society of you [TS]

00:33:01 ◼   ► notice that genuinely surprised and that [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► turns the turns of phrase or anything [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► like maybe I used too many monkeys like [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► it's just an ingredient uses in his [TS]

00:33:07 ◼   ► normal it isn't it enough that Hebrew [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► and a pony making a gift that's it's the [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► thought that counts as far as that he [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► will he will mix in sentiments from [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► adult relationships again from his life [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► I've imagined this time we kill me kill [TS]

00:33:19 ◼   ► you to be civil like that I've been [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► patient I've been gracious it's a line [TS]

00:33:23 ◼   ► right out of you know typical you know [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► cutting to adulthood relationships and [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► marriage or whatever just only was in at [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► that time just mixed in you know like [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► that he has is having the same squabble [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► the women the woman is abject terror but [TS]

00:33:33 ◼   ► he thinks he's in a domestic you [TS]

00:33:35 ◼   ► well that's did in that verse splits it [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► exactly in half reading from the lyrics [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► you know it isn't easy living here on [TS]

00:33:41 ◼   ► skull crusher mountain maybe you could [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► cut me just a little slack [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► would it kill you to be civil I've been [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► patient I've been gracious and then [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► and this mountain is covered with Wolves [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► to hear them howling my hungry children [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► get switches right back into and that [TS]

00:33:54 ◼   ► that's the way I spoke to my game yeah [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► right i like how he tries to calm her [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► down by saying listen the voices inside [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► my head that control me tell me I [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► shouldn't kill you yet [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► yeah that's love is what you know when I [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► was speaking about the recorded version [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► of that song I never heard that yet and [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► of course live you hear that yet because [TS]

00:34:12 ◼   ► you know he's singing and he can [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► enunciated i think i like to better [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► without that yet saying the voice in my [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► head said I shouldn't kill you as if [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► that's reassuring like the fact that [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► you're listening to the voices in your [TS]

00:34:21 ◼   ► head that they're advising on who you [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► should or shouldn't kill is disturbing [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► enough that you don't need to yet i [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► think we get your right is very subtle [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► in the record so what side it's a [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► falsetto the note that rises at the end [TS]

00:34:32 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► yep that John would you perform their [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► fruits that is not yeah my duty as a job [TS]

00:34:40 ◼   ► audience Scott Scott share with us your [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► second song i am going to pick some a [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► fairly straightforward song that perhaps [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► many people would not pick but i am an [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► odd fellow so i'm going to pick the [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► presidents Washington came first news [TS]

00:35:00 ◼   ► John and skips out with friends [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► Jefferson me to Louisiana [TS]

00:35:09 ◼   ► Madison chicken British in hand changing [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► role [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► they could [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► Quincy and the very straightforward song [TS]

00:35:18 ◼   ► wow it is he just sings about the [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► president's a little fact about them i [TS]

00:35:23 ◼   ► enjoy a couple things about this song a [TS]

00:35:26 ◼   ► I like history and songs about history [TS]

00:35:28 ◼   ► so there you go [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► I'm a junkie I enjoy the fact that he [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► uses a toy instruments in it [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► yes that amuses me greatly and I like [TS]

00:35:39 ◼   ► the fact that so it was written in 2005 [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► so he gets to the end and of course [TS]

00:35:43 ◼   ► George W Bush is the president then he [TS]

00:35:46 ◼   ► wasn't there i should say might get my [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► texts correct and so he's talking about [TS]

00:35:50 ◼   ► george w bush and he says he goes [TS]

00:35:52 ◼   ► through you know the countries in a bad [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► position and nobody knows what's [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► happening and I don't like to make [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► political statements and then there are [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► a couple of beats there so he just [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► doesn't say anything and then it goes [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► back to the the verse and chorus i [TS]

00:36:08 ◼   ► should say so it just amuses me greatly [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► it's a very straightforward song not [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► that deep or layered but sometimes you [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► just want a song that lists all the [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► president's give you a fact about them [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► after after codemonkey might buy made a [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► Colton playlist for my kids and they [TS]

00:36:24 ◼   ► really enjoyed the president's but then [TS]

00:36:26 ◼   ► I started asking questions particularly [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► about the Clinton cigar line we gave an [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► internal cigar right yeah and I left [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► first of May off that list as well and i [TS]

00:36:38 ◼   ► like that the the fact that he chooses [TS]

00:36:40 ◼   ► to say about some of the president's [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► like you know grover cleveland serve [TS]

00:36:45 ◼   ► another term so there you go that's all [TS]

00:36:47 ◼   ► good and at this is that we write some [TS]

00:36:50 ◼   ► of the descriptions are you know fairly [TS]

00:36:52 ◼   ► accurate and it's hard to get a full [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► history of a president a single lyric [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► you know but saying Jefferson made the [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► Louisiana Purchase is good and then you [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► get like Nixon was a filthy dirty liar [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► you take this is also fairly adequate [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► description it I i do like the [TS]

00:37:05 ◼   ► juxtaposition of the or I think my my [TS]

00:37:07 ◼   ► favorite lyric I do like that that pause [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► that you reference got but Lincoln save [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► the Union that he died i like sex is [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► like that that's the history of lincoln [TS]

00:37:17 ◼   ► as you say the Union and they're dead [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► i laughs I laughs at Lincoln said that [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► every time and that [TS]

00:37:24 ◼   ► suit suit laughs well my my second [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► selection does come from artificial [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► heart and I think it's okay if we if we [TS]

00:37:32 ◼   ► take a parallel track here because I i [TS]

00:37:34 ◼   ► think my inference here is the greg koss [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► is not necessarily as a narrative [TS]

00:37:41 ◼   ► artificial heart as you might be the [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► rest of the cold and cannon I'm not [TS]

00:37:43 ◼   ► putting your words your mouth so you [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► will have a chance to prove me wrong I'm [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► disagree you know it i'm disappointed in [TS]

00:37:48 ◼   ► myself that I don't like it more I don't [TS]

00:37:50 ◼   ► want to box him in as an artist and I [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► realize he's he's reaching here he's [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► extending but unlike some of the [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► experimental stuff like bacteria I can't [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► stand but I am disappointed that i don't [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► like it because I know what he's trying [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► to do and I don't want him to keep doing [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► the same thing for the next 20 years but [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► I it just it's not the same for me [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► should give it a chance because I kind [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► of felt the same way when I first got [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► the album but it is totally like some of [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► them are it's kinda like thing week [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► where some of them are just forgettable [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► and you're like okay that didn't work [TS]

00:38:22 ◼   ► but other ones are real growers as they [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► call them and they have really easy up [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► several these could have made my top [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► three lies adjusted there's so much back [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► catalogue history we move the other [TS]

00:38:32 ◼   ► songs that none of these have been in my [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► in my heart long enough to crack the top [TS]

00:38:35 ◼   ► three for you so just for the [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► uninitiated uninitiated artificial heart [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► is Jonathan Colton's first full band [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► down produced by John Flansburg they [TS]

00:38:47 ◼   ► might be giants and it's you know it's [TS]

00:38:49 ◼   ► every other song that he had released [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► essentially had been done by him at home [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► generally with his acoustic guitar and [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► electronic drums in whatever keyboards [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► he could finagle and so this is you know [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► full band playing with him and so the [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► first of my 22 artificial hearts [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► elections is alone at home i am glad [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► shopping here I will kill you first [TS]

00:39:23 ◼   ► I won't [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► shopping [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► which is another one where I think it's [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► it gets extra credit for being great to [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► me in both the lyrical sense and in the [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► you know just the the music itself I [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► think is excellently arranged but I her [TS]

00:39:57 ◼   ► loaded home live when Colton was opening [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► for they might be giants at the stone [TS]

00:40:03 ◼   ► pony in New Jersey and then you know [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► that because the the album only launched [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► two days later them and I don't know if [TS]

00:40:12 ◼   ► that added to my affection for the song [TS]

00:40:14 ◼   ► because hearing it unveiling live to me [TS]

00:40:16 ◼   ► for the first time was exciting but this [TS]

00:40:18 ◼   ► song is a song is very that the singer [TS]

00:40:23 ◼   ► is very angry and hateful toward his [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► wife or significant other in my view and [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► you know first easy the first verse [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► you know it's kind of gig already and as [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► we said you know it's it's another one [TS]

00:40:34 ◼   ► where it kind of keeps building things [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► you know where I'm going to sit here on [TS]

00:40:38 ◼   ► this chair while you're shopping and [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► I'll watch your person I'll take care of [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► it while you do your thing and it's fine [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► because i'm alone at home and I you know [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► much of the lyrics of the song i think [TS]

00:40:48 ◼   ► are straightforward i feel like the [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► chorus is open to interpretation what he [TS]

00:40:51 ◼   ► exactly means my saying he's alone at [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► home i think is up for debate but I [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► don't know that as that song builds and [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► he says he'll make room for your stuff [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► when you buy stuff the canvas or and [TS]

00:41:02 ◼   ► that he'll pretend to be nice to your [TS]

00:41:04 ◼   ► parents when you visit them you know [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► it's he clearly has fallen out of love [TS]

00:41:08 ◼   ► and I i think that whole thing I think [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► it's a hilarious thing to write a song [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► about at least in the way that he did [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► and the cryptic chorus keeps me coming [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► back and i really like the the the the [TS]

00:41:21 ◼   ► way he sings the chorus very energetic [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► and then and catchy i think yes I think [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► he has nice access again as a by this [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► time Mary person nice access to the [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► kinds of small things that can magnify [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► in a marriage to get on your nerves and [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► the you know he has a limited number [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► words in these verses so he's got the [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► chosen very carefully and this is what I [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► think makes him a brilliant as a linear [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► system connecting with people like me [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► particulars were that bit where he says [TS]

00:41:48 ◼   ► we can talk about plans for your [TS]

00:41:51 ◼   ► cousin's birthday if you haven't been [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► married married no sense [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► how is that how [TS]

00:41:55 ◼   ► was that you know something that you're [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► bitter or angry about but sometimes like [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► you just you know your your wife will be [TS]

00:42:01 ◼   ► way more interested in talking about [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► plans for cousins birthday then you are [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► and the fact that she's interviewed want [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► to talk about it will be annoying to you [TS]

00:42:07 ◼   ► and that's something that you you know [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► you wouldn't have had access to if you [TS]

00:42:13 ◼   ► weren't in that situation yourself and [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► couldn't relate to it that that's good [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► lyric ready [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► I think it's a mystery John that you [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► said sometimes your wife is more [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► interested in your mind is always were [TS]

00:42:24 ◼   ► just talking about those kind of terms [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► of the most compelling lyric that you [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► know and John you made the point a [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► couple times that it feels like it's [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► coming from his real-world experience is [TS]

00:42:34 ◼   ► the entirety of the bridge [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► you know I don't want you to make it up [TS]

00:42:37 ◼   ► to me I just wanted everyone to see the [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► way we are over this way can we just not [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► make this a thing all of which feels [TS]

00:42:43 ◼   ► like pulled from maybe I I mean not [TS]

00:42:45 ◼   ► every conversation I've had with my wife [TS]

00:42:47 ◼   ► but yeah it was magnified like he's [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► actually has access to those feelings [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► he's not actually in that situation but [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► he can take that and say I know that [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► exists now map it onto this character in [TS]

00:42:57 ◼   ► this song because it's coming from a [TS]

00:42:58 ◼   ► real place it's not not autobiographical [TS]

00:43:00 ◼   ► he's doing a great songwriters do you [TS]

00:43:02 ◼   ► don't have to live through this horrible [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► experiences you just have to understand [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► how they could come to be and so now I i [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► can write something that's true about [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► people who are in this situation [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► well let's do a the third and final [TS]

00:43:12 ◼   ► round before we get to our broader [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► Colton discussion [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► Jon you're up again yeah it's a tough [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► choice because again just limited to [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► three is killing me and i'm already [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► sneeze making it mentions of other ones [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► but i'm going to pick this one because [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► it's the least like the other ones it's [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► a very simple song that i really started [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► to like the first time I heard him live [TS]

00:43:29 ◼   ► and he played it I guess I figured you [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► know he likes this song so much he [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► decides to pull out live and it's fairly [TS]

00:43:35 ◼   ► obscure maybe I should give it another [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► listen and and I didn't have definitely [TS]

00:43:39 ◼   ► grown me it's I'm your moon [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► invented reason that's why it stings [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► they don't think you mad [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► because you don't have to keep telling [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► you I don't care [TS]

00:44:00 ◼   ► I [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► one [TS]

00:44:07 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:44:09 ◼   ► which is a very straightforward not [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► funny at all song that doesn't have to [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► be about anything other than what it [TS]

00:44:17 ◼   ► seems to be about which is like a [TS]

00:44:18 ◼   ► relationship with the moon analogy but [TS]

00:44:21 ◼   ► is actually about Pluto and its moon [TS]

00:44:23 ◼   ► that is almost the same size as Pluto [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► and that little extra geeky twist makes [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► its i like i like how it's nice and [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► calming and it's fun to listen to [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► but knowing that it's also about Pluto [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► and its moon you at it gives it that [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► extra twist that that again tickles me [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► while I listen to it and i can i can if [TS]

00:44:43 ◼   ► i could appreciate strap even if it [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► wasn't about Pluto but that extra bit [TS]

00:44:45 ◼   ► puts it over the top [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► I think that's a great choice that would [TS]

00:44:48 ◼   ► have been my fourth choice i might might [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► my third choices along the same lines [TS]

00:44:54 ◼   ► it's very straightforward and it's sweet [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► is you ruined everything [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► I was fine the pull myself together [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► just-in-time throw myself away one my [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► perfect world was gone I and [TS]

00:45:21 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:45:23 ◼   ► Francis way [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► [Music] [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► and my kids were little older when I [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► first heard this song but I'd never [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► found a song that expressed the kind of [TS]

00:45:37 ◼   ► I was terrified of having children [TS]

00:45:39 ◼   ► it was this giant that undoable decision [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► and it apparently so far it's worked out [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► but there's this notion of it I am [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► irrevocably changing my life right now [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► and I'm happy it happened I I dearly [TS]

00:45:56 ◼   ► love my children but there's also a part [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► of me that I sacrificed for that and [TS]

00:46:02 ◼   ► sometimes I didn't miss it [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► that's kind of the thing they don't tell [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► you about parenthood like before you're [TS]

00:46:08 ◼   ► becoming a parent people only one ever [TS]

00:46:10 ◼   ► tell you oh you're gonna love it so much [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► you can love your kids so much all which [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► is true but no one will tell you like [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► because I guess it makes them to see you [TS]

00:46:16 ◼   ► seem like a bad person if you go up to [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► someone and say listen and you have a [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► kid let me tell you all the bad things [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► about it and you ruined everything again [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► must have been written by someone who [TS]

00:46:24 ◼   ► has actually had kids and said ready [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► tell you right there are so many great [TS]

00:46:27 ◼   ► things about it and the heart of the [TS]

00:46:29 ◼   ► song is sweet but part of you dies at [TS]

00:46:34 ◼   ► the lyric that gets me every time is [TS]

00:46:36 ◼   ► what he says I can't think of who I was [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► before you ruined everything in the [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► nicest way and that's the that's the [TS]

00:46:42 ◼   ► thought that echoes to me the most often [TS]

00:46:44 ◼   ► you know I i could I thought we had one [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► kid I thought what the hell did i do [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► before i had this kid we had to what the [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► hell do I said 1-3 what the hell that I [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► don't I said to and at neck that lyric I [TS]

00:46:53 ◼   ► really speaks to me in a very poignant [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► level [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► have you guys ever like after kids were [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► born you know six months nine months [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► after you're born you ever find yourself [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► like driving to work and staring at [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► studio apartments as you went by doesn't [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► have the medium that has the makings of [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► a good Jonathan Coulton song i could get [TS]

00:47:12 ◼   ► so much done [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► yes I need a futon an internet [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► connection that's the name of your album [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► be telling edit a connection that's it [TS]

00:47:23 ◼   ► that's the suites on [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► I like that yeah all right Scott your [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► third and final selection i am going to [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► choose a song from artificial heart [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► final selection nemec's run fast [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► promise me [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► me [TS]

00:47:46 ◼   ► first of all your enemy [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► friend to me [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► that will be [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► joy it's about a never see his midst of [TS]

00:48:02 ◼   ► a pretty straightforward so I think [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► about the idea that it is from the [TS]

00:48:09 ◼   ► vantage point of the viewpoint of one [TS]

00:48:11 ◼   ► person who is the Nemesis or at least [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► suggesting to another person that they [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► should be in embassies so that they will [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► fulfill each other's lives basically [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► because I wouldn't i won't seem as crazy [TS]

00:48:23 ◼   ► you won't see him as crazy if we are [TS]

00:48:25 ◼   ► competing with each other and trying to [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► you know kill each other basically and i [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► will constantly be following you lurking [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► in the shadows trying to support you but [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► it will all make sense because we're in [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► embassies so that will we will complete [TS]

00:48:37 ◼   ► each up so it's an interesting kind of [TS]

00:48:40 ◼   ► strange song I think and I i enjoy [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► collecting embassies myself so it speaks [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► to me [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► there can only be one bearded [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► singer-songwriter on the Internet [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► well this is this situation where [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► someone has wants to be someone else's [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► nemesis I and perhaps the other person [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► doesn't know that that person really [TS]

00:48:58 ◼   ► wants to be their nemesis so badly [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► yes you're pretending you don't even [TS]

00:49:03 ◼   ► know my name well played all part of an [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► all-party am right nut [TS]

00:49:07 ◼   ► it's another foil love song isn't it and [TS]

00:49:10 ◼   ► it's a duet with John Roderick whose is [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► whose great this was my introduction to [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► him as a singer and it's very [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► interesting mix of voice sounds that do [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► it and that's actually interesting [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► element of artificial heart is that [TS]

00:49:26 ◼   ► there are is it three tracks for tracks [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► where Jonathan Coulton is not the lead [TS]

00:49:30 ◼   ► vocalist which is kind of unusual when [TS]

00:49:32 ◼   ► you buy a an album from someone you [TS]

00:49:34 ◼   ► think they're going to sing all the [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► songs and never cease [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► now i'm an arsonist the third version of [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► stay up still alive [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► yeah but he makes up for it work with [TS]

00:49:45 ◼   ► nobody loves you like me where Jonathan [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► Coulton at nine times so for my last [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► song it like i said it does come from [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► artificial heart night I far be it for [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► me to casualty list of songs that didn't [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► make the cut but they were very close [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► like curl not about you blew sunny day [TS]

00:50:00 ◼   ► today with your wife and good morning to [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► sign but the song that i picked was it's [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► it's I guess like Scott's caveat i'll [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► say you know it's it is cut [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► a very superficial song but i think it's [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► so brilliantly crafted and unlike any [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► song i had heard previously and yet so [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► obvious that this kind of song should [TS]

00:50:19 ◼   ► exist when you hear it and that is just [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► sweet Rick Springfield neighborhood [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► he's got back yet [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► share the quad coming no share hey rama [TS]

00:50:37 ◼   ► nam provide just explain [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► it's very very simple very simple melody [TS]

00:50:55 ◼   ► and really a relatively simple concept [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► all although still with a little bit of [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► ambiguity where the singer is the singer [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► either claims to be or is in fact Rick [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► Springfield and apparently in France or [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► in some other french-speaking location [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► reminding people about his greatness and [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► assuring them he that he is indeed Rick [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► Springfield but doing it all in French [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► and then even questioning his own [TS]

00:51:20 ◼   ► friends I guess it kind of goes back to [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► one thing that I like this you know [TS]

00:51:22 ◼   ► where he's correcting himself or he's [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► trying to verify that he was pronouncing [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► the French words or phrases the French [TS]

00:51:27 ◼   ► words correctly in song and i like that [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► i like when singers second-guess [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► themselves in within a song and I don't [TS]

00:51:34 ◼   ► know something about that song i can't [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► help but rock out to it in the car no [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► matter who's looking in the windows and [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► it's i don't know i think it's great [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► yeah that the nice thing about just [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► rework Springfield for me is that I'd [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► the language i took in high school was [TS]

00:51:47 ◼   ► french so i could actually more or less [TS]

00:51:49 ◼   ► understand the lyrics the first time I [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► heard the song and that's the case where [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► I was training very hard to understand [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► it because when I when I saw this I saw [TS]

00:51:56 ◼   ► him he was auditioning the artificial [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► heart songs in Boston he came up and did [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► a small show with the band was the first [TS]

00:52:02 ◼   ► time I'd seem to the band was way before [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► the element come out and one of his [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► instructions like hey here's an [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► excellent off the new album was not [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► released yet and it's all in French it's [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► like okay let me get out my high school [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► French listening years and that made me [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► listen listen to the words straight and [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► it's it is very kind of high school [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► French structured you don't it's not [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► sophisticated french i think he was [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► using his high school French to right [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► thing and so that that was interesting [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► and also now when he doesn't like he has [TS]

00:52:27 ◼   ► a middle section where he does a little [TS]

00:52:29 ◼   ► bit of Jessie's Girl which blends nicely [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► into the song very cool so let's let's [TS]

00:52:34 ◼   ► go a little bit broader in the time [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► we've been permitted for me i would say [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► the jonathan coulton is very much in [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► keeping with other artists listen to you [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► know my other favorite bands are bands [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► like they might be giants and Al [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► Yankovic and I don't know Moxie frutos [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► or barenaked ladies all of which I think [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► have that other people might define [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► their commonality differently for me but [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► what is what i like about it is [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► but they all appear to take what they do [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► take their craft very seriously but not [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► take themselves very seriously and then [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► let that show in in the kind of music [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► they create which I really appreciate [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► whatever reason he speaks to me so i [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► would say that he's you know old news is [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► one of that genre and in keeping from me [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► but my I throw the equation everyone did [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► you feel that this is he typically the [TS]

00:53:19 ◼   ► kind of music you listen to [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► i would say no for me he is up i had a [TS]

00:53:24 ◼   ► little bit of they might be giants [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► mostly for the kids [TS]

00:53:26 ◼   ► I was never really particularly into [TS]

00:53:27 ◼   ► them except for the few low you know [TS]

00:53:30 ◼   ► breakthroughs like you know a triangle [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► man or whatever that was on MTV when I [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► was a kid but I was no never really into [TS]

00:53:36 ◼   ► that weird out i had very few weird al [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► songs you know thrown into my collection [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► but never bought any of his albums was [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► never into it and I think the reason he [TS]

00:53:46 ◼   ► broke through for me is no it's kind of [TS]

00:53:50 ◼   ► the same way [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► why nerds get obsessed with other things [TS]

00:53:54 ◼   ► made by nerds like you know firefly or [TS]

00:53:56 ◼   ► other series on television that are you [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► know the JJ Abrams stop using that are [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► clearly made by nerds who we relate to [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► because with music as for the bands that [TS]

00:54:06 ◼   ► I like and I like totally generic [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► run-of-the-mill bands anyone my age like [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► oh you like Bruce Springsteen you to REM [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► and radiohead well that's novel right so [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► you know everyone likes their [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► middle-of-the-road bands but you have [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► the sneaking suspicion that the people [TS]

00:54:17 ◼   ► these famous people who make this music [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► that you love and I really do love those [TS]

00:54:20 ◼   ► bands as cliche as they are for me to [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► like them you have the suspicion that if [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► you were to hang out with them you would [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► have nothing in common because they're [TS]

00:54:27 ◼   ► not like they're not your people I there [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► they're not into the things you're into [TS]

00:54:31 ◼   ► they wouldn't they wouldn't understand [TS]

00:54:33 ◼   ► your humor they wouldn't have the same [TS]

00:54:35 ◼   ► cynical view of the world they're just [TS]

00:54:37 ◼   ► they're just different and you love the [TS]

00:54:38 ◼   ► music they make [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► partially because it's different they [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► can talk about things that you don't [TS]

00:54:42 ◼   ► experience but when Jonathan Coulton [TS]

00:54:43 ◼   ► came along he was here love joy here is [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► this person to you felt like there's no [TS]

00:54:49 ◼   ► way that this person could know this [TS]

00:54:51 ◼   ► stuff about my secret heart if he didn't [TS]

00:54:54 ◼   ► also experienced some of these things [TS]

00:54:56 ◼   ► and so I think he appeals because his [TS]

00:54:59 ◼   ► two major touch points are obscure [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► references and sadness [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► yeah well it's not just that like it's [TS]

00:55:04 ◼   ► not that's the thing that's I think [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► about him I think of another artist came [TS]

00:55:06 ◼   ► out and they did these similar songs so [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► these every one of these songs could [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► take up [TS]

00:55:10 ◼   ► bad turn for example you I you ruined [TS]

00:55:12 ◼   ► everything that song would not be a good [TS]

00:55:14 ◼   ► song it was like a song like oh these [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► kids they ruin everything that's not [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► what the song is about at its heart it's [TS]

00:55:19 ◼   ► it's sweet you know what i mean and so [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► many on something on a Razors Edge of [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► being crappy versions of themselves and [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► he never goes there and so all these [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► songs like finally yes this person he [TS]

00:55:32 ◼   ► under you know he seems to understand me [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► and I felt like I hang out with this [TS]

00:55:36 ◼   ► person then we would have something to [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► talk about it it's it's almost 11 of us [TS]

00:55:40 ◼   ► broke through like a nerd was made who [TS]

00:55:42 ◼   ► actually have musical talent who [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► understood lyrics pop music you know [TS]

00:55:47 ◼   ► hooks and enough music manship to to get [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► through and it's like yeah one of ours [TS]

00:55:51 ◼   ► made it in the same way that there's [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► much more of those making movies and [TS]

00:55:54 ◼   ► television out in the music around there [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► so so few that might be giants probably [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► qualifies but they never quite broke [TS]

00:56:00 ◼   ► through to me but around the Colton's [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► lyrics and music where such a connection [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► with like what's deep down inside of me [TS]

00:56:06 ◼   ► that I just immediately latched on it [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► you know it's that that last point for [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► me i think is is really good i like I've [TS]

00:56:13 ◼   ► said repeatedly now i'm a big fan of [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► weird al's but you know one of his i [TS]

00:56:17 ◼   ► think one of his highest charting songs [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► of all time was white and nerdy apparent [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► song ridin by chamillionaire which I [TS]

00:56:23 ◼   ► would imagine most people who like weird [TS]

00:56:25 ◼   ► i had never heard of before he parried [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► it but it you know he's constantly made [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► reference to with white nerdy it was a [TS]

00:56:33 ◼   ► song i was doing research for my whole [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► life but he's not the same kind of nerd [TS]

00:56:36 ◼   ► that I think you're referring to you and [TS]

00:56:39 ◼   ► you know he's making relatively try [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► jokes about you know Star Trek and [TS]

00:56:44 ◼   ► pocket protectors and and stuff they're [TS]

00:56:46 ◼   ► editing Wikipedia there's not a core of [TS]

00:56:48 ◼   ► emotion that is in colton songs i think [TS]

00:56:52 ◼   ► that's exactly right i think that's [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► what's that I think that's the [TS]

00:56:54 ◼   ► difference is that he doesn't you know [TS]

00:56:55 ◼   ► he knows about it but he doesn't feel [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► connected to it but it i mean where I [TS]

00:56:59 ◼   ► like we're down but we're doubt tells [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► jokes Colton has the lyrics and the the [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► humor reflect the core of emotion and [TS]

00:57:06 ◼   ► without that core of emotion you're not [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► going to have the same kind of wordplay [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► the same kind of twists the same kind of [TS]

00:57:12 ◼   ► little you know knife under the rib to [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► the to the lyrics that you do when [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► you're just making javascript jokes it's [TS]

00:57:19 ◼   ► kind of like is like an SAS like if he [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► was just thinking that no musical talent [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► however and didn't write songs he could [TS]

00:57:24 ◼   ► be a very clever effort SAS for like you [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► know suck com or something if we want to [TS]

00:57:28 ◼   ► go back in time to you know or the onion [TS]

00:57:30 ◼   ► or something like that right and this is [TS]

00:57:31 ◼   ► gonna sound terrible and I was kind of [TS]

00:57:33 ◼   ► getting it this and my other analogies [TS]

00:57:35 ◼   ► but I figure my soldiers bring it out in [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► sound terrible because why not because [TS]

00:57:37 ◼   ► these people aren't gonna find me and [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► yell at me you it's it's the feeling you [TS]

00:57:42 ◼   ► have as a disaffected nerdy youth that [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► it's not fair that you're smarter than [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► everyone else but nobody likes you [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► anyway right like that being smart is [TS]

00:57:52 ◼   ► not worth anything and you know I've [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► never met any famous musicians but you [TS]

00:57:56 ◼   ► get the feeling that you know Jonathan [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► Coulton is smarter than bono Jonathan [TS]

00:57:59 ◼   ► culture and Colton is smarter than Bruce [TS]

00:58:01 ◼   ► Springsteen right eye and its and I [TS]

00:58:03 ◼   ► think it shows in his writing because [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► his writing is smarter is it better [TS]

00:58:08 ◼   ► writing doesn't make for better music is [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► jonathan coulton better than Bruce [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► Springsteen I don't think that's [TS]

00:58:11 ◼   ► necessarily the case but it speaks to me [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► in a way that like that that that here's [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► a guy who's using his brain in the same [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► way that I felt like I would use my [TS]

00:58:20 ◼   ► brain if I had any time whatsoever for [TS]

00:58:22 ◼   ► writing music or lyrics like yes that me [TS]

00:58:25 ◼   ► that's what I'm you know it's just it's [TS]

00:58:27 ◼   ► such an incredible connection and that [TS]

00:58:29 ◼   ► strange to me because i think does that [TS]

00:58:31 ◼   ► prevent him from ever connecting with [TS]

00:58:33 ◼   ► like the rest of the world the normals [TS]

00:58:34 ◼   ► you know because he everything he writes [TS]

00:58:37 ◼   ► is so unashamedly it's not just like pop [TS]

00:58:39 ◼   ► culture references and stuff it's like [TS]

00:58:41 ◼   ► insight and cynicism and and sentiment [TS]

00:58:45 ◼   ► all mixed together in the same soup in [TS]

00:58:47 ◼   ► the same way that it is inside you know [TS]

00:58:49 ◼   ► their brains how many mainstream pop [TS]

00:58:51 ◼   ► songs have actually sent required that [TS]

00:58:53 ◼   ► you go look something up it or taught [TS]

00:58:56 ◼   ► you anything because because because [TS]

00:58:57 ◼   ► love to learn new things so he will [TS]

00:58:59 ◼   ► understand medley make parts of the song [TS]

00:59:01 ◼   ► educational but its side [TS]

00:59:03 ◼   ► I when I read you know the entire [TS]

00:59:04 ◼   ► wikipedia entry for serious Johnson [TS]

00:59:06 ◼   ► because i had no idea who he is because [TS]

00:59:08 ◼   ► i live on the west coast or the you know [TS]

00:59:11 ◼   ► he put the formula for when I got a [TS]

00:59:14 ◼   ► wrong no but that's ok it's the Julia [TS]

00:59:16 ◼   ► set but but he had the formula for a [TS]

00:59:18 ◼   ► fractal in a song [TS]

00:59:20 ◼   ► well that's what I was going to put that [TS]

00:59:21 ◼   ► would have been another on my list of [TS]

00:59:23 ◼   ► like top 10 or whatever because I so [TS]

00:59:25 ◼   ► he's got a song about fractals so what [TS]

00:59:26 ◼   ► like that so you know it's cute and tell [TS]

00:59:28 ◼   ► some history and a little bit [TS]

00:59:29 ◼   ► educational but that the brilliant thing [TS]

00:59:32 ◼   ► about him is that he's not going to [TS]

00:59:33 ◼   ► settle for that i'm not going to write a [TS]

00:59:34 ◼   ► cute little song about fractals that's a [TS]

00:59:35 ◼   ► little bit educational isn't it [TS]

00:59:37 ◼   ► and find the song about fractals and I [TS]

00:59:38 ◼   ► curse he has decided he's thought about [TS]

00:59:40 ◼   ► it and decided there's something [TS]

00:59:42 ◼   ► significant about fractals and he puts [TS]

00:59:44 ◼   ► it in the course change the world in a [TS]

00:59:46 ◼   ► tiny way they did that little thing [TS]

00:59:48 ◼   ► change the world not in a big way but [TS]

00:59:50 ◼   ► some smart person use their brain and [TS]

00:59:52 ◼   ► change the world in a tiny tiny way [TS]

00:59:54 ◼   ► through and I enjoyed that song because [TS]

00:59:56 ◼   ► i went to see Mandelbrot to give a [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► lecture once [TS]

00:59:59 ◼   ► lecture once [TS]

01:00:00 ◼   ► when I was in college and I had no idea [TS]

01:00:01 ◼   ► what he's talking about about he [TS]

01:00:03 ◼   ► introduced himself and that was at the [TS]

01:00:05 ◼   ► after that I had no idea what he's [TS]

01:00:07 ◼   ► talking about but it was great to see [TS]

01:00:08 ◼   ► because he had so much passion and I [TS]