99: Convenience Store Clerk of Dune (A Summer Reading List)
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the incomparable pod test number 99 july
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welcome back everybody to be
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uncomfortable podcast I'm your host
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Jason snail and I am joined by a
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fantastic panel today to create
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something we're going to call the
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incomparable summer reading list are you
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somebody who lives in within hemisphere
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if not we apologize but we all are so
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we're going to say that it's summer and
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we're going to come up with some
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suggestions for books mostly sci-fi
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novels but we may cheat a little bit
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just things we like books we like we're
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not going to go heavy into the spoilers
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i think books we like that we think you
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should read and at the end of this there
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will be a wonderful list that will be
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posted at five by five TV / incomparable
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/ 99 and it will be books that we at
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least some of us endorse and think that
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you should read if you haven't read them
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yet it's that simple
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and if you're saying to yourself this
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sounds Jason a little bit like you're
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doing a book draft but not calling it
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that you are very clever person and also
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very handsome i must say anyway
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joining me today to draft some books and
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talk about books we love our Dan Morgan
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hi dan I Jason I'm glad to be
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participating in this experiment in
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literacy that's good we will let you
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know the results one more time
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Scott McNulty is also here of course
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because he is the most well-read amongst
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hi Scott
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hello I'm also joined by serenity
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Caldwell hi thanks for being here
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yeah I'm happy to be here Jason I didn't
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think I would be able to but I managed
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to scrounge up some books
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that's good just got in under the wire
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and exactly and lex friedman is the
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least read among us but no but he's here
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anyway I'll I know I I don't think it's
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fair to say the least read i will say
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I'm the least qualified to appear on
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this podcast I side up what it was just
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a generic book draft but I still feel
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confident that I can contribute
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something at the very least the ability
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to be mocked mercilessly
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yes your confidence will be your undoing
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you may you may be mocked for not being
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key enough and that would make you
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perhaps one of the first people to be
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much so and also Glenn Fleischman is
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here hi Glenn
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I have no German books on my list okay
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and no Jermaine books that's also
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correct I would be less good
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alright so i am not going to be a cruel
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taskmaster and force a draft order here
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i'm going to just say the ground rules
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are of course if somebody else picture
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book you don't get to pick it but that's
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okay we're all friends here you can just
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you can file a concurring opinion so
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yeah that's it that is a great book good
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pic and when Glenn pics a book that
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we've never heard of we can say okay
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Glen so that's gonna be how this works
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for now this challenge that's how it
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always works
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damn or and why don't you go first then
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I'm gonna go first i'm gonna pick a and
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this is a science fiction book so i
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think i can check that box well done
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thank you thank you I'm done I'm done
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off to a good start a science-fiction
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book okay that's good look at that's my
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selection a science-fiction book so my
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first book is a book called altered
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carbon by a man named Richard K Morgan
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which is a sci-fi book i think that's
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I wanna say early to mid-2000s and what
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I like about this book is that it's
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basically a neo-noir mystery set in the
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future in which people are variously
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downloaded into bodies that they call
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sleeves and that's sort of how they live
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out their existence and the book centers
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around one particular character whose
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name I'm going to butcher which but i
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think which is a to take a chico batch
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who is especially trained sort of a
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special ops guy he's an envoy i love
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that this is the future because you can
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tell it's the future and somewhat
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implausible because the like highly
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trained military convoys work for the
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United Nations in the future which I
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find entirely implausible but that's
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probably the most impossible thing in
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the book people gettin downloaded their
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consciousness downloaded different
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bodies you can't what about the United
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Nation relevant for the move but anyways
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he is sort of sucked into this mystery
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investigation and it's it's a great book
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it's really atmospheric reminded me in
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some ways of all the stuff i like the
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best from neuromancer which is sort of
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that that future bizarre future that's
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kind of like quite blade runner ask but
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its its kind of alien but the same time
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has these really recognize
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elements and it is probably the only
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book you will read in which one of the
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main characters is a hotel one of them
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one of them
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yeah it's followed by a couple sequels I
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didn't think either the sequel's were as
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good as the first one they take a kind
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of different tone and it I've read most
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of this guy's books and it is altered
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carbon is definitely my favorite and i
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would go so far as to call it one of the
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one of the best sci-fi books from the
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last decade
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wow ok altered carbon anybody else read
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that one of her life i have read it
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Scott you do you like it huh who knows i
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read it was gonna happen
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well you've even forgotten whether you
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like it I don't like it i did buy the
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sequel I haven't read the sequel that
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that hurts stick with the stick with the
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first moments the definitely the best
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throw the sequel in the wood chipper
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I will put it in the recycling bin okay
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that's even better
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Scott McNulty do you have a selection i
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do so I was unclear as to the format of
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tonight's show ok so was I and I came up
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with it so both excellent so i decided
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that i would just pick whatever the heck
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I want that so now if you are very clear
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on the format then excellent it wasn't
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whatever and we'll call it something
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else yes
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so one of the first books that i read
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that really set the course for my
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science fiction reading life
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isaac asimov's foundation trilogy which
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I i know many people are conflicted
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about isaac asimov because he was
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probably not the best writer in the
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world are he was quite prolific and he
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did he was part of kind of the be the
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golden age of science fiction writers
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that with all the pulp writers were
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around so you know he was a robber
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highland and you know lots of other
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people that whose names now escape me
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were writing at the same time in the the
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late fifties early sixties and so he
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wrote this foundation trilogy which is
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basically a sci-fi retelling of the fall
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of the Roman Empire I and and he it's
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just it really impacted me when I read
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it the first time because of
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it was the sweeping story of this this
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giant Galactic Empire and this character
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called Harry Sullivan who creates this
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form of predicting the future called
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psychohistory and he he goes to the
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Emperor who is on this planet called
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transit or that's a giant city planet
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which may sound familiar to some star
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wars fans who and so he tells the effort
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you know therefore the Empire is going
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to fall
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I know what it's going to fall and it
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will take 2,000 years for the Second
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Empire to rise unless we do what I tell
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you to do and then we'll take a thousand
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years and so he sets up this foundation
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to that basically preserves the human
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knowledge and can help the galaxy
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through the dark age but then also he
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sets up a second foundation that is
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really there to protect the humanity and
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Isaac has enough uses a this kind of
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this this this entries from this
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encyclopedia Galactica to to kind of
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tell you what's going on in the story
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which a lot of other science-fiction
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writers and pick up as a kind of trope
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that they use so he set a lot of things
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for the first time in this this series
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that a lot of other people have used
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over the last 50 years so it's a very
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important piece of science fiction
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it is also very much of its time so if
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you're reading it and expecting a
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science-fiction of like you know our our
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day you're going to be disappointed it's
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certainly reflects its time but i think
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it is well worth a read and the three
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books in the trilogy are altogether
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shorter than a lot of the current novels
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that are out now from the
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science-fiction writers so it's well
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worth a look
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yeah he would I don't know about him
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being bad right he's not a stylist right
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hehe just his style is very basic or as
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somebody in the chatroom just said karen
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j healey his pro styles like an IBM 360
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operating manual that got drunk one
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evening and decided to be a novel
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instead and that's really not that far
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off a very kind of workmen like pros but
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some really fascinating ideas now I see
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Glenn said that the first heat up the
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first book and foundation was good
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but the rest not so much is that using
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see i disagree i think the first book
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for me is one of the most dull but I
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think foundation an empire which is the
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second book really kicks it up a notch
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and gets more interesting i guess the
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third is pretty awful but i don't
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remember the third I like someone the
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later ones i felt like asthma style got
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a little better so some of the ones that
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go back and do the prequel yeah I found
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much more like I was a prelude to
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foundation and for the foundation i
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found was much more accessible i don't
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know if you could argue they're better
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books but I like the first one best
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because it was that its empire building
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right it's like with all the ideas are
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fresh and all the exposition is there
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and I thought it was so clever i think
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you're right maybe the second one
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actually is better like it moves Morris
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was not as much exposition but you have
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a little more you have a little more
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plot right you got the mule that comes
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in which is sort of that's the part i
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remember being really excited right love
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ya and that's a good that's a good
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hidden thing like you don't realize i
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mean at some point I don't think the
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first time I read it I got it until the
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and you're like oh okay that makes sense
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but it's just like it's some good faints
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and double faints and he doesn't he
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doesn't Telegraph everything that's
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going to happen some of its obvious and
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especially now because everything that
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he did was absorbed into other records
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later works but i mean i think it is
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literally a Scot says it's it's the
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foundation of modern science fiction as
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his autobiography i'll have a great you
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of Messiah was going to unite the
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universe their giant sandworms and these
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summer because it's a very hot planet so
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how many books in that hammock but doing
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tribe and they're secretly gathering all
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spot for it and the movie of it just by
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of dune and convenience store clerk of
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dune like 36 years ready to keep going
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young made for TV series version of it
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of drug to let them to enter hyperspace
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sci-fi fan before we started taping and
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fictiony enough
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why is she on the show and it's a great
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question but my first choice its is the
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time traveler's wife which I believe
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futures rules of time-travel are the
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more sense and and I and I felt like it
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the kind of light-hearted fair you want
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head the niffenegger like so I can't
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together and assembled in the the story
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linear fashion that is not at all in any
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of time travel and really not just
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enforcing its own time travel rules but
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what those rules would be the
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storyline and and the nice thing about
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happy i was going to talk about it again
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you know it it's it's got all the
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it is touching and it talks about the
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lives and and that in it but it does it
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you know the last time that they see
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each other is different for each person
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think my wife tried to reach her second
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book and it wasn't very good but this
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terrible i didn't i didn't even get past
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like three chapters but this is a great
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book i love this book so I think that's
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a great pic Lex
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thank you i don't want to spoil anything
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to but it's a it's emotional the whole
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grab you and pull you and hurt you
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that's great don't watch the movie read
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the book can isolate my my criticism the
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point in which she telegraph was gonna
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characters and I mean exactly what's
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going to happen and I can I don't know
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how many pages in it was like I cannot
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read this anymore because I'm going to
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scream and cry so she doesn't tell I
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mean it's time travel right i mean it's
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hard after I know but it but it's time
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travel I mean that's the whole point is
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she knows and the character knows that
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something terrible is going to happen
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job of of manipulating the streams all
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I'm because you have no heart
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alright well I liked it I liked it
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thumbs up as well
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look at that oh yes i am so proud of
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myself right now
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Lex when that happens to relax you
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actually get important at this time
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minus a minus points to a Glen because
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he's rocking that's right and i make i
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have made up in volumes so far ahead
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the 1i have not right you shouldn't you
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should read that Scott I think you might
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even like it because i liked it and you
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true in my wife it's one of her favorite
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books see there you go there's lots of
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yeah it seems like a lady book to me i
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don't know if that's true it is you know
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in the summer
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Scott in the summertime i like to wear
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and let the breeze blow over me and if
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thats ladylike then so be it
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read my lady book i'm casting their
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judgments are just saying that's what it
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struck me my next choice is fifty Shades
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of Grey serenity Caldwell you're up
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what do you think well um actually been
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read the time traveler's wife so I will
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refrain from commenting on lexus pic I
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in terms of my own summer reading if i
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go back most of all of the books that i
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read during the summer read at a cabin
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by the lake and this cabin had lots of
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older books so a lot of my pics are from
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the 1970s sixties fifties forties so
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it'll make the things a little bit
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interesting but I also i went to the
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local library and so in addition to that
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i would read like I read lots and lots
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of star wars books growing up because it
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was just readily available and there
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were a lot of them and I could get
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through them quickly but the one book
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that I kept on coming back to besides
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the large amount of Tim's and other
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wonderful writers that I kept coming
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back to I was Madeline legals wrinkle in
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time which is 0 will possibly one of my
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top five favorite books but it's also
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choice as well relax tesseract there is
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such a thing as a tender act so this is
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the book that mean I mean there are
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other books in this in this series are
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not in their competitors but in my pics
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that will indicate my love of science as
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a young child but this was really my
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love of science fiction science where I
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picked up this book and I'm like oh my
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god interstellar time and space travel
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this is blowing my mind and it's all
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identifiable kids you know when your god
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first picked this book up and then i
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read it you know through the through my
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teen years and there's someone to
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identify with as you grow up with this
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book whether you're you know Charles
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Wallace's age or you get up to megs age
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you know you really
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you can go through the book and find
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something new every time and that's what
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i really really adore about this book
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interdimensional spirit / stars / we
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don't quite understand what they are but
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they're you know they can travel through
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time so it's it's cool and it's you know
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a good versus evil battle where the good
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folks are artists and scientists and the
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bad you know big big black things and
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and I'm not going to spoil the ending of
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the book for the people who haven't read
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it and if you haven't read what are you
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doing listening to this podcast go read
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it right now it is the perfect summer
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read i haven't read it but my guess is
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at the end time gets Botox and no longer
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has a wrinkle is that right
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something like that standpoint selects
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minus ten points yesterday sorry you're
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gonna get influenced and again but yeah
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I really love this book and I and it's
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sequels are also very good i actually
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one of one of its sequels many waters is
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a sequel a little bit down the ways
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which involves the sum of the wrinkled
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time folks going back to know was time I
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believe so basically playing with the
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idea of Bible characters and that is a
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very interesting book for very different
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reasons but also a good summary so
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that's my my pitch for a wrinkle in time
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those people who don't like lots of
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words there's a graphic novel coming out
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this fall which is also i am very
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excited for because the person is doing
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the not the graphic novels like
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absolutely in love with a wrinkle in
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time and she's like oh my god this has
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been my favorite project to work on so
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I'm crossing my fingers that this will
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be yet another thing i can add to my reg
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one-time bookshelf for haters of words
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or lovers of groundwater levels of
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graphic novels that I mean they're still
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quite a few words and i think the
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graphic novel is going to be something
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like for 500 pages so it's there's no
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there's not going to be a dearth of
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words just more pictures
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alright that's it that's a classic what
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I still have my paperback copy i believe
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when I was a kid that's in my daughter's
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bookshelf now uh-huh that's great one
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alright i guess it's my turn I know I
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get a turn
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it's shocking because we've been here
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forever and this is the end of the first
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round so we're gonna have to go faster
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but I i have a bunch of different things
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here i'm not really sure what what to to
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go with first so I'm gonna go with the
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obscurity route with the first pick and
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I i was always a big fan of the
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cyberpunk genre and you know william
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gibson's neuromancer was you know just
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blew me away when it came out and i
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would be an obvious choice and i'm not
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going to pick it so then then my choice
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was I think there's a Gibson book that
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may be better than neuromancer and I may
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get to it but instead i'm going to go
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with a much more obscure cyberpunk book
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from 1986 it's called when gravity fails
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by George Alec a finger but it was a
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Scot McNulty seal of approval
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check it out it was a nebula nominee was
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a hugo nominee it is set in a cyberpunk
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middle-eastern locale it's area it's a
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kind of an Islamic culture that is is
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dominant and predominant the it is it is
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a new war kind of story
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the the main character is married now
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drawn i think it Murray did is they you
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know he's kind of got a bad job and he
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he's involved with like criminals and
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there's this whole like organized crime
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system in the place where he lives and
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his girlfriend is a let me see if I can
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get this straight
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it was born male has been changed into a
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female and now works as a prostitute and
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she and the other prostitutes are sort
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of like Marines buddies in this kind of
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underworld setting and he gets into the
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store into trouble
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there are these things that you can
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stick in people's heads that modify
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their brains you know it's a great
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cyberpunk novel it is really widely
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known and it's kind of a mind-blowing
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story it is you know maybe we'll from
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literary merit perspectives not as great
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as some of the gibson stuff but i think
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appreciated and I just remember these
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three novels its first myth series being
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just fantastic when i read them I was
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blown away by them they're they're so
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different in a in setting and in mood
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while still having this great kind of
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nor underworld you know crime story
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happening which like a lot of the
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cyberpunk stuff but it really it has
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stuck with me to this day so when
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gravity fails is my choice and I'm glad
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it got the McNulty not there
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that's good well you win the the first
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book in this list that I have not read
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haha 2 i'll have to put that on my list
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it's good aware of that it is in it
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isn't printed tour is publishing now in
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Georgia like a finger actually very good
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writer and sadly was a very ill for a
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long time the huge hospital bills and I
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remember he had it is like apartment
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burned down and and Harlan Ellison did
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this thing where they raise money to try
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and pay his bills and and and and then
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he died fairly young and while writing
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the fourth book in the series about 10
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years ago i think so
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which is a real shame sort of sad life
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wearing john against grace and tell you
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mystery and sort of a comedy of manners
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not read anything by connie was proud of
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interesting i'll start reading it and I
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loved it so much that I've gone back and
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reread many of her other books which are
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competitors on this list but to say
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to capture this beautiful madcap I say
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Woodhouse Ian a comedy aspect and I just
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manages to sort of tapping to his psyche
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nothing of the dog yeah I'm funny
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justjust I mean it is there are not that
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many site syfy comedies there are some
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yeah this is a sign right now well as
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done hilarious and I i think that you
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know for me it got started on the the
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thing that got me laughing so hard the
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first time I read it was that
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so in this university suffer from time
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lag as one might suffer from jet lag but
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increased sentimentality and so that's
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what the characters talking to a dog
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about our dog man's best friend you
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truly are better than the other
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characters are going like are you
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alright and so I think that does my
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favorite if you want the sort of darker
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turn on that one
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Doomsday vault which is also very good
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but extremely depressing and like you
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know is the tragedy to the comedy
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guessing everybody let's time travel to
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the Black Plague I is everything
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everybody dies
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basically yeah yeah and then and then
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sort of in the middle ground there you
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get the blackout all-clear ideology and
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then I think she wrote a short story as
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well fire watch which also
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so is in the same universe right and
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yeah and several other books are good
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I'd say they close the close runner-up
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there and it's less science-fictiony but
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the close runner-up for my favorite book
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by his bellwether which is a short
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adorable little book that we're out
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there but connie willis and authors but
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it is worth checking out and to say
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nothing of the dog in particular is my
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favorite good call let's move on to
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Scott McNulty yeah I I wasn't prepared
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to move about
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ah so in keeping with your cyberpunk of
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recommendation Jason I will i mentioned
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a book that is not to inform cyberpunk
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as a genre although when I read it I
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didn't pick up on that all the stars my
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destination by alfred bester oh yeah
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which is fantastic book also a kind of
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dark because the main character is a
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completely overtaken with a crazed needs
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to exact revenge he starts off the book
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it basically kind of a stuck in a Life
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pod in space basically for for many many
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months and a ship comes by anything so
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they're gonna pick me up but they don't
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gets out and then he he decides that he
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needs to get his revenge upon the the
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crew of the ship
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plot to a kind of the synopsis but the
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things that you need to remember is the
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the character main character crash-lands
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on this this planet that is constructed
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of discarded spaceships and unbeknownst
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to him the inhabitants of this planet
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tattoo a very elaborate tattoo on his
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face which they don't have mirrors so he
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never notices it and then he's picked up
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by another spaceship and they're like
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dude you have a tattoo on your face like
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oh my God he's also able to psychically
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teleport himself uh interstellar two
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different planets which other people
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can't do but they can do in shorter
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distances
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its is very complicated out but through
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many kind of high jinks he eventually
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kind of gets revenge but doesn't there's
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a lot of twists and turns to the story
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it is kind of dark so be prepared for
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that but yeah it is very good really
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good really good
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it is it's great that you can jaunt
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but only so there's like a distance
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limitation or something but he doesn't
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have that he figures out how to get rid
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of that distance haha and and so people
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are quite interested in that diabolical
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gets exactly he gets the tattoo removed
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from his face so that he can you know a
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blend in with people so nobody knows
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it's him about except what he gets
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where was kind of fills in again because
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the blood rushes to his face
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so that's a kind of a critical moment in
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the story he gets really excited and
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then people like I had to you all right
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the stars my destination could pick
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let's move on to glen me why are you
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also surprised i'm just going in the
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same order we did the last time we try
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to introduce element of tension in the
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shoulders haha you'll never know who
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i'll pick next except if you're paying
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attention then you'll know
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go ahead and also apparently wasn't I i
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am going to pick Hyperion by Dan Simmons
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also on my list great so 10 points to
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thank you so the reason I i would
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mention Hyperion is I i think i try to
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pick all the things that might have
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along along with we will get to that
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perhaps we post our list on the side
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alone but the Hyperion is something like
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many other novels where when I read it I
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was struck I was struck by the beauty
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the intensity by unusual ideas that
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never entered my mind before and change
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my consciousness forever so iperion
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tells the story in a kind of not
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pilgrims progress but am
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a tracer what's the roster story the
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transfer anybody anybody transfer
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transfer yeah the canterbury tales
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characters yeah mom that opera this
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route is softer bigger slide on the
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showers
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suta hot that pair said to the ruta my
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god game hall where all English majors
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here i cannot i was art so i can just
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draw a picture of it so the candidates
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that has a loose structure of canterbury
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tales with stories told in turn by six
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different people on this spaceship that
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are all going off to something like
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uncharted space and they all center
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around a planet called Hyperion that
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theme of Glenn's evening like dune is a
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peculiar planet my period has strange
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properties and there's some like the
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sort of area that's almost impossible
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because it generates the plant life
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generates electrical fields and storms
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land spaceships there nobody really
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cares its kind of this beat-up old
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planet and mysterious events are
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happening or have been happening over a
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period of time and so there's a poet
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there's an ambassador or a diplomat
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there's a woman an old Jewish man whose
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daughter is aging backwards in time and
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a priest to has a actual well I won't
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tell that place too much of the spoilers
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yes technol the story but at the cross
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and the resurrection mean extra special
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things to the priest extra special so
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it's I think it's a great it's a great
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set of stories and apparently one of the
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stories about Cirie sis remembering
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serie very sorry it was originally a
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standalone story that we came to Germany
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this of the novel and it's you it's
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picaresque because you have different
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things happen that are facets of the of
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the same place but happening different
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hot right happen across space everything
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is coming to a point in Hyperion and
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there's this mysterious creature called
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the Shrike that is some enormous multi
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arms armored thing that no one quite
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knows what it is and I think it's got
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its full of mystery it's a it's
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beautifully written dan simmons
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everything he writes beautifully written
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but I find a lot of it so either
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hermetic or just you know it's
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impenetrable or just don't know I find
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an idiotic at this point that i can I
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try to read his stuff like the olympus
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oh yeah only I'm not yeah Williams try
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red book is and i just found them so
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model I didn't know but he writes
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beautifully it carries man same thing
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with as with doing i would suggest if
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you read Hyperion read the first and
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don't read a full of Hyperion and demand
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rise of endymion because I think they're
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appreciation that first novel there a
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second one especially it abandons the
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whole narrative structure and the app
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becomes kind of a space should be up
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with lots of study and then ends to the
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first of the Hyperion and so unfairly
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though as a reader because they
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descended into the valley and you like
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but but because the really the point is
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to tell you these seven stories of the
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travelers it's it's almost like an
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anthology set in the same universe along
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with this framing sequence and then the
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sequel is really like and this is what
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happened when they got there and I read
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it and I liked it but you're right that
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it's sort of not the point of the first
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narrative structure Andy but theta so I
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with a lot of you know books that have
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sequels but i think this one in
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one of the best science fiction novels
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ever written despite the ending issue
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you know the next novel thats not bad
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but not great and then like all so I'm
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yeah just a riparian restrain yourself
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don't worry about don't worry about what
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happens to the characters just out there
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i'd say it's really too to book the
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Paris and you could read fall of
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hyperion I really wouldn't recommend
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reading the Endymion rise of endymion
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that's sure that the only reason you
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could read the Hyperion resolution well
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he needed the thing he was revisionist
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Endymion and rising and oh yeah there's
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a lot of red khan in there yeah it's
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retcon it's very frustrating right calm
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because you're like dude you made your
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universe
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you gotta live with it or rewrite your
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box because you're just going SSJ
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reactors
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yeah but it's good stuff I like that a
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lot and it was on my list i had it open
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a little browser tab right here i was
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going to talk about
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well thank you so 2 plus 10 to climb
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thank you for being such good taste i am
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glad that people know yes got it was
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also my list just to look at that plus
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22 Glenn amazing thing to ya know that's
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good that's really good he can square
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let us move on you need for a low score
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right it's like golf
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it's like golf that's exactly it let's
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move on to lex free
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men what I can't wait to hear what legs
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Friedman has now it's just bad travelers
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way to Schmidt moment you guys are
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already being cruel and haven't even
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gotten to the embarrassing part yet i
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will say with some trepidation that for
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my second selection i debated between
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not one not two but three separate
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novels all by the same guy a very famous
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author not necessarily renowned for his
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sci-fi work but it was the King Stephen
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King and I looked at the first one was
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going to pick was 11 22 63 but i didn't
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have two choices that had already had
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incomparable episodes that covered them
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and let me happy 263 and time travel
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yeah right it's not over time travel and
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this is felt redundant so I looked under
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the dome which i think is over all his
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best written story where in the you know
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the opening scenes a strange
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impenetrable glass dome or a glass maybe
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not be the right material with an
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impenetrable dome comes down over this
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town and then you watch what happens in
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this town with these people who are cut
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off from the rest of the world
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I mean it's just it's great it's long
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its vivid and every scene is I think
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really draw beautifully and I i think in
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a failure that is too common to King the
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the ending is just really kind of
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terrible so I rejected that one and I
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landed on the least sci-fi ish of my
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three selections but will allow it
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because it's a summer episode it was the
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Long Walk which he didn't even write a
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stephen king at the time he wrote it is
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Richard Bachman but the long walk is I
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think my my most beloved Stephen King
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novel the one that i reread the most
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often about a a dystopian society of
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some sort and for reasons that are never
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clearly explained various children are
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called up each year to walk endlessly
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and it's all televised for your
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enjoyment and if you don't keep up with
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the crowd or if you with the crowd of
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young boys were all walking or if you
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stumble or if at any point you falter
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off the path they kill you where you
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walk until you die and so you just it's
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the whole book essentially is the walk
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and that's on and also that's that's the
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size i promise if ever there was a
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satirical and all that so yes Lex I'll
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allow it to
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yes so but I mean you just you walk and
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you walk
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and I don't know for me it's i like it
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for I like the story i like the fact
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that he can tell a story where the
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entire journey is the walking and it's
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still a compelling read and I also think
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it's a very clear very direct influence
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to the Hunger Games
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yeah so I think that is to his credit as
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well I think that's a great choice Lex I
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but the correct summer reading choice
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for stephen king is probably the stand
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but still good choice standards on my
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summer reading list 0 for tackling it
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o.o you should read it but you might
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need a couple summers if you read the
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full on uncut version but already
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through you know song of ice and fire in
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two months I think I care
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yeah yeah so it's good pics already
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called well you are next
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don't be okay to cry whenever ya with me
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what why do you possibly be now Jason I
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think for my second pick
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I'm going to have to go with another
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book that I read probably once a summer
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for four or five summers as I was
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growing up and that is flowers for
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algernon which started out life is a
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short story and turned into a novel I
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this book was also made it to eat not so
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great film called Charlie which people
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have probably seen it I've vastly prefer
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the the book as do i with most film
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adaptations but the plot of flowers for
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algernon it's basically written log book
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style wherein we basically look through
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the eyes of a of a guy named Charlie who
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has an IQ of 68 and you meet him and
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he's working at this bakery and people
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don't necessarily know people are making
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fun of him but he can't really see it
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because he's a little dim and he
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basically gets drafted to be a guinea
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pig in this experiment to supersize
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human intelligence and so you're taking
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on this journey as he basically becomes
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smarter than anyone in any world and
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sort of climbs up and in first you see
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oh he's finally fitting in with his
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surroundings and he
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shooing you know all of the all of the
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things that aren't working in his life
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and then bad things happen with the IQ
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test and everything starts to go wrong
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and I really love this book because it's
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it's weirdly disturbing in a sort of
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it's a it's a glimpse into humanity at
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its best and its worst because not only
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do you see sort of Charlie's
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transformation but because you see the
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entire world through his eyes
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I you really get to see you know the
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people that he's working with at the
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start he thinks that they're his friends
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and as he starts to gain intelligence
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and as he you know becomes more aware of
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her surroundings he begins to realize oh
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no these people are mocking me and oh
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this woman I was you know really
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attracted to all of a sudden I can't
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interact with her at all because
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everything she says makes me wanna you
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know just walk away and I can't focus on
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anything but you know my experiment now
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like it's I find the entire book really
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fascinating and i love the log book
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style it's also kind of why I love John
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Waltons among others it's it's really
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really fun and intriguing to go directly
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through a character's point of view and
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not very many authors can do it really
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really well and the Daniel Keyes who
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wrote flowers for algernon just does it
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spectacularly so if you if you haven't I
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mean the short story if you don't have
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time to read another story is
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spectacular
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I don't know if I've you read the novel
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by remembering the short story and being
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blown away by the novel is very good
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the novel is a bit more adults the short
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story i started off with a short story
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because we actually had the the I think
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there's a magazine that was first
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published in we have that at my cabin
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and I was so blown away by the short
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story and my dad was basically like yeah
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he wrote a full book of that that I went
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immediately to the lake tahoe public
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library or the South Lake Tahoe public
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library like all right I want the actual
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novel i think i may have actually payday
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payday lost book fee on that one because
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it just stayed around at the cabin for
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years on end after that you stole it
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from the line i know i'm a horrible
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person but it was a really good book so
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I I feel justified and i paid the
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library back in spades
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all right you might be will be Holly for
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everybody
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she's a betting it was Lake Tahoe she's
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gambling minus 24 everybody who's turn
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is it all for free cheese cases their
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attorneys let's look do that's
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unexpected
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I had no idea as foreshadowed i'm going
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to pick a william gibson novel next and
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I think it's his best novel and that
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comes a lot from somebody who's bought
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neuromancer in about five different
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formats but I i think his novel from
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2003 pattern recognition is his best
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work it is sort of sci-fi but it's set
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in more or less the present day I think
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the premise here is that our world that
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we live in now is in many ways if you
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view it and in those ways uh
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science-fictional it's got a lot of his
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typical stories you know there's kind of
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a MacGuffin there's a mysterious
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billionaire there's some Russian
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mobsters but I think you just described
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the plot of Gilligan's Island
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yeah it is there is there are no Russian
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mobsters there on the other side of the
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island with the headhunters what are you
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talking about it you know it's um though
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the woman who is the protagonist is a is
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a cool find her she's finding she just
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kind of one walks around and discovers
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what's going to be cool and she uses
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that that's her consultancy but she
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discovers this strange set of of film
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clips that are posted that nobody knows
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what they mean and they're trained
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people are trying to figure out what
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these uh what these strange clips that
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are what are they called the found the
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footage of the footage and and there's
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like this whole internet group of people
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who are trying to figure out its like
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the sample is read this I couldn't
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already
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turn up the footage is viral alright
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it's like viral for viral was a thing
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for viral video was a thing his
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allergies all those earlier it and she's
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a marketing professional but she's
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allergic to branding which is so is she
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liking she if she sees the Michelin Man
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she like breaks out in hives and has a
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panic attack and even other brand names
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bother her and she's like special
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clothing that doesn't have have branding
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tember 11th reference in which in which
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he you know I think added in the latter
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stages but gives it gives it an
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interesting feeling and firmly a 21st
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it is him at the top of his game taking
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trilogy that was with neuromancer he did
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came out with pattern recognition which
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trilogy of books and it's on its own you
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know it's a standalone novel you don't
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have to read the other books really good
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highly recommended so pattern
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recognition that's my choice
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that's the only give us in book I've
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ever read
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recognition for me but i do like pattern
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recognition
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alright and like it just seems like i
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there's a lot to like about it
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understand how well the reason i picked
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over over in romance because neuromancer
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it was so influential but I felt like it
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megaphone one there and I right now I'm
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like 20 years after it came out and
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getting very late to neuromancer and and
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really loved it
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recognition know i think i think is not
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influential novel so that's what a pic
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another set of books so we are going to
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go to glen fleischmann ha see what again
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i change the order Glenn what's your
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want to pick something broad because
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Phil k dick i want everything he wrote
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have anything my fellow Kate you're
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type of the field k dick you wrote an
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enormous amount and i'll recommend a
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couple in love when name one book
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it starts with the Galactic pot healer
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something and I it's a great release
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prolly weird thing with that you know a
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creature from another planet that sort
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of recruits the guy from this dystopian
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version of Earth many peers is like
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flames and a Phoenix and people can't
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see him in this like this underwater oh
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my god it's a great sprawling massive
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it's funny it's weird it's a if you want
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to get job advice you have to come up
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with actual quarters which cost a
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fortune and put them in like a phone
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booth and and robot gives you advice
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even explain it like I'm trying to
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explain really said that is but actually
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plant ecologist man in the high castle
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them I think man the high castle is
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better known but I i would say pick up
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pick up some dick there's a couple of
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collections out now there's three from
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the new American Library came out with
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like officially edited and collected
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novels and have the first of them and I
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think it's he's a great it's not it's
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not easy summer reading always BUTT
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thought-provoking bizarre and you don't
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find anything like it in most other
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science fiction because most people were
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not as seriously disturbed as philip k
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dick go active pot healer is that your
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it's just a personal but you know Phil
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you gotta pick one all picked galactic
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writers don't know what you're on the
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science station train slightly to a oh I
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know I know
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282 a supernatural themed books are
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still the same
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that sounds about right it's a book
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about supernatural now it's the
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novelization absolutely you know maybe
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it's only that's easier if you watch the
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show opening tom and so yeah i know i'm
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just going to talk to myself now
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no it's a book called the devil you know
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by a writer named mike carey mike carey
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popular run on Lucifer which is branches
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off the story from neil gaiman's sandman
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about the the devil and he is the author
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of the unwritten which we talked about
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my comic book club episode I'm said I
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oh it's good yes it's very good i like
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it i like it it's like a better version
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of the magicians and so little richmond
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the w know which is the first in his
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series about Felix fix caster who is a
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freelance exorcist and i love this book
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altered carbon which I talked about the
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top of the top of the show it's very nor
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Humphrey Bogart as a private eye for
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ghosts or alternatively does magic at
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children's parties to me to pay the
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bills but he gets roughed up like all
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your new our heroes and he always
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stumbles upon these things which are
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somehow going on that are even bigger
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the world is so well drawn it all takes
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place in London and there's there's i
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build there is sort of an ongoing plot
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been possessed by an extremely powerful
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demon and there are some interesting
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characters and and the plus that develop
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them are better than others but i think
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most of them are actually really good
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enjoy any sort of supernatural ghost
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story type thing
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the fact that every exorcist has to have
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their own particular stick sort of for
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dealing like none of them can really
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explain how their powers work but they
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have some method that works for them and
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for fix it say he carries around a tin
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whistle and uses music to sort of
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ensnare the ghosts and and send them on
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to their final resting place and it's
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one of the few books that actually start
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to get a little bit philosophical about
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like the heck to these guys go after we
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dispatch them like this and what does
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that all mean so it's a it's a great
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great series books highly recommend it
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alright the devil you know my carry
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let's go to a serenity Caldwell ok
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my next book on the list is carl sagan's
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contact which is actually been made into
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a film that's actually half decent but I
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i really love how about Jason that's I
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like moving
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lot of really really nice visualizations
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so the novel contact for people who
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haven't read it is basically about
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scientists and first contact with an
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alien species and how aliens might
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contact us and trying to get the world
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to believe that they actually have
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contacted us at how that related to
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faith and gets mired in all those fun
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faith and gets mired in all those fun
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fun subjects i love this book again I
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mean female protagonists always a good
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thing especially when they're pretty
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awesome but in addition its I like how
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this book makes you question faith and
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fate and moments in time I as a kid I
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loved aliens
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I love the idea of my dad was a ham
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radio operator so the idea of contacting
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another planet or another race of you
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know through the stars through radio
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waves with such a fascinating concept to
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me that I just don't write in which is
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why again the the 1997 film not a
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perfect movie but i must have washed it
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it like I wore out that VHS just because
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excited about the idea of wanting you
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know first contact and and wanting that
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to be true and questioning your own
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sanity and you know it's I I think it's
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a really good book i've also think it's
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a really good film and it's it's light
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enough to be an easy beach read but it
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leaves you with some interesting
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questions at the close and it's great to
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read right before desk so you can you
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know go up on your growth for sit out on
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a dock and look up at the stars
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it's about in many ways the fundamental
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science fiction story right it's the the
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ultimate is what if there were other
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creatures out there and what would
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happen if we found out and that's and
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then take the science of it which carl
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sagan is quite capable of doing and then
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take the you know a realistic look at
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what the ramifications would be and and
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that then you've got the story
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yeah it's it's quite beautiful let's go
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scary and that is my teacher is an alien
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alien books that goes into my teacher
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fried my brain and glows in the dark and
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flunk the planet and it's all of them
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center on the same basic premise which
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clearly a school with very poor hiring
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standards but it is up to various stock
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children from that school to prevent the
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aliens from taking over the world and
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the world really is endangering these
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stories for children and but luckily the
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children are there to to rescue us in to
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prevent the aliens from achieving what
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they hope to achieve where I glad now
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talk about the time that bruce coville
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classroom helping us having us each
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describe a characteristic of an alien we
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all created together and you know he had
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the first person so you know how tall is
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to me said eyes and I said three and he
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said you're the first person to ever say
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a number when I ask for is everybody
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else's provides a color and he thought I
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was great so I also think bruce coville
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selection of my teachers an alien today
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so this is the book that you can slip in
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your kids bag to take to the beach yet
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you know once right now might my
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five-year-old loves chapter book shoot
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but she likes reading about fairies and
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princesses and magic and stuff she gets
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scared a little bit too easily for my
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teachers nearly now but I think come
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seven or eight she's gonna be ready but
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anyway I really did enjoy my teachers
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only in you know
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I looked at it again this week and it's
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because i still have all those books
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because I suppose was filled with books
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I saved from when I was a kid and I mean
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they don't hold up well in a sense of
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you know it's not like children's
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literature that's really great for
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adults to the way some might consider I
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don't know Harry Potter hunger games
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plus this target i think a younger
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reading audience but the stories are
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well-crafted and they you know you can
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see that it's scary in the right ways
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and it's the science fiction stuff is at
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least well done it's got its own you
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know thing and it works with it i know
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it's it's it's well-crafted and it's
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well targeted to its youthful audience
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that's great pic great pic all right
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we've got two selections left and cut up
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next is me haha see i changed it around
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i'm going to pick for some more
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contemplation in your summer reading if
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you'd like to think a little bit read
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joe haldeman is classic the forever war
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from the 74 here here just added that to
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my summer reading list actually oh
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that's that's a good one that was me
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working retro actively through time to
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put that on your list about the past few
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days so so well it's all that time
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dilation so that forever war which was
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written at toward the end of the Vietnam
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War and it is a kind of meditation on
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the the disaffection that soldiers felt
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it when returning home from Vietnam I
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think it's sort of fundamentally what
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it's about but it's not about a lot of
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other things about cultural ships during
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a war time and just in general it's
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about you know the life of a soldier and
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being removed from the people that
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they're fighting for it's about the
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question of whether war is necessary
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ever whether you know regardless of what
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the soldier we are doing is is war
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something that should never happen
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lots of big ideas you know there's a
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whole subplot about the well i'm not
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going to go into too much I mean suffice
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to say the culture of humanity changes
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and changes radically as these soldiers
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keep moving through time because when
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they they go out on a battle there's
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huge time dilation so battles are fought
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by the time you return hundreds of
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thousands of years have passed and so
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these future soldiers are quite
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literally returning to a place that
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isn't home and they are recognizable and
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they don't fit in with with what they
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got coming home to so it's just it isn't
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it is a masterpiece
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it is one of the classics of science
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fiction and it's got a lot it's in that
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mold of science fiction that not only is
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it telling you he's telling a good
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entertaining exciting story but the
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social commentary that he's doing while
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telling that story using all of the
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things that's sci-fi can do as a kid
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grew up watching Star Trek and realized
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as i as i watch the original Star Trek
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just how they were using science fiction
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to tell you know make commentary on the
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world that you might not get away with
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it wasn't science fiction and people
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with ray guns and things like that and
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the forever war does that to the forever
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war has this whole layer of commentary
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that it is able to get away with by
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having it be said in the science
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fictional premise so it's a classic and
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I recommend it and it's not a it's not
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really a downer it's just I mean it's
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weighty in its subject matter but it's
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not really a downer it's not like going
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to bum you out if you read it on the
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beach it's just gonna make you think so
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that's my choice I have to think there
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occasionally so that's my choice and
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that leaves us with Scott McNulty well I
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I approve of that choice Jason and thank
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just in case you're wondering I took
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your silence as a descent but that is
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good and dan have you read it i have
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actually not ready to it's sort of been
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my perennial list for a long time right
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now we could work together with it gets
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put up there is no yes forever at war
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been put up there is sort of the polar
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opposite or in some ways the
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conversational opposite of the Starship
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Troopers which i think is an interesting
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yeah I green technology lets uh atom
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bombs in the forever wars i remembered
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but uh my pic is a book that I like
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honestly really yeah i-i've just tried
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to both without this works I
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going a little different route up the
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sparrow by married or Russell oh
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excellent excellent that was on my list
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to excellent
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yeah that thinking like this percent
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great it is always fantastic book not
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not a really uplifting story but I it
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revolves around so the Jesuits find this
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plant they hear a signal from a planet
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so they send a space mission to it to
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discover that there are aliens on this
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planet and you know through a series of
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unfortunate events they've really a kind
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of ruined the the aliens culture and the
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main character who's a Jesuit priest is
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can captured by this alien who is an
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artist and who does not nice things to
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this priest
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ah but it's in keeping with the alien
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culture so if they don't think of it as
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not nice but uh the Jesuit priest
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certainly does and he ends up coming
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back to earth a kind of doubting his
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faith and hating God for making him take
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this mission to this planet I it's
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beautifully written
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yeah it i went to a Jesuit High School
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so I i'm interested in the Jesuits
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connection but I think even if you were
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not taught by gesture with you will
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highlight like this book i would not
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read the sequel you know but I if you
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plan to read the sequel just read the
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sparrow again
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yes you will be happy i think i was
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hoping she was going to write some
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additional science fiction but then
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she's become mired in as i recall like
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alt history Holocaust rating or so now
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she's she's not alter history I mean she
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really actually oracle historical sure
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thing about world war two and in Italy
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with that and and her latest is about
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doc holliday and my wife read it and
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said it was actually quite ok well
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that's called doc but that the the the
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sparrows great although my one complaint
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about the sparrow is and i said in the
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podcast a couple of times you get to
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about eighty percent of ninety percent
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of the weigh-in and a lot of the detail
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about the plot and it's as if she
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realized she needed to
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in her manuscript which is unfortunate
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because all the stuff that I really
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loved about it up to that point kind of
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a lot of that fell away so she could
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finish she does finish which is good
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that is good she didn't just stop i know
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you'll see my dad or like the
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instruments but crappy exactly and seen
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exactly that's a great pic the sparrow
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that is one of my that is one of my
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favorites that is on my top ten and
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maybe even my top five list along with
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the along with the time traveler's wife
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honestly so if I had remembered that
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movie with the player but I'm glad Scott
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picked it
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yes I Scott saved us from jenny and save
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this just again it's what I do
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thank you Scott thanks for saving us all
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right we have reached the end of our
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list we have created a 18 books that we
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suggest that you consider reading this
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summer in the next six weeks before yes
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before we go or or put them on the list
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before we go I will go around and see if
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anybody had any others that they want to
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mention the titles of just to get them
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out there because you did the work why
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not show it off and while you're
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thinking of that i'll throw out to that
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I had I had the diamond age or a young
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ladies illustrated primer by neal
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stephenson which is my favorite maybe
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books and I had a million open doors by
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john barnes which I mentioned on the
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podcast before which is the first book
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things that let you step from one planet
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certainty Caldwell do you have any
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books in the world but are good
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help but always grateful yeah its
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controversial author google
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science fiction novels i agree just read
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your walls and and it's also my pic and
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so you could read a good book and and
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find out about what about the good grade
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that's great and did Scott did i ask you
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you you did not ask me and so i will now
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answer please please do i I keep
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flashing back to when I was a in high
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shelf of Star Trek novels and I spent
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fight with Klingons was located but and
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space opera good they're really good
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book the algebra is too which is a yes i
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good fantasy books for people who don't
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no I hope not gonna fix it
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close up the incomparables first annual
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to read if not this summer then later on
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this year just put them on your list and
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guests for being here tonight Scott
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McNulty thank you thank you this summer
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i plan to read nothing but feed over and
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then more and thank you for being here
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I was just static and put my own book on
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the list ya next year maybe next year
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hosting that is the most of that podcast
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i Lex Friedman thanks for being here
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thank you thank you nobody picked my
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books either and i already ordered
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pattern recognition to my kindle yeah I
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i win and cindy caldwell thank you so
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much for being here it is a pleasure as
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always I'm gonna go curl up in bed and
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the diamond age before bed now look at
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yeah I and for the uncomfortable once
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again I am Jason cell thanks for
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