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106: Dance With a Dalek in the Pale Moonlight

 

00:00:00   the incomparable podcast number 106 [TS]

00:00:05   September 20 well we're back [TS]

00:00:09   uncomfortable this is one of our fabled [TS]

00:00:12   flash episodes where we don't edit [TS]

00:00:14   because i am very lazy and we talk about [TS]

00:00:18   what just happened with no planning this [TS]

00:00:22   is jason snelling we hosted the [TS]

00:00:23   uncomfortable and joining me to talk [TS]

00:00:25   about things that just happened are my [TS]

00:00:28   flash guests damn or in hi dan I just [TS]

00:00:32   don't talk really crass read yet that [TS]

00:00:34   because if that podcast [TS]

00:00:36   wow that was really you need to talk [TS]

00:00:38   slower then IL dit make up the [TS]

00:00:40   difference [TS]

00:00:41   it got your editing ah yes John siracusa [TS]

00:00:45   was the voice you heard there hi John [TS]

00:00:47   although Jesus it's good to have you [TS]

00:00:49   here Glenn Fleischman is also here [TS]

00:00:52   hello who's coming who's not here [TS]

00:00:56   occasionally LTS green Scott McNulty is [TS]

00:00:59   is trapped in the wilds of [TS]

00:01:02   of Maryland yes Maryland is where he is [TS]

00:01:07   which is very much like the asylum of [TS]

00:01:08   the daleks and also joining us is Monty [TS]

00:01:11   Ashley hi Monty hello thank you for [TS]

00:01:13   being here [TS]

00:01:14   so our topics we have things that [TS]

00:01:17   happened this weekend we wanted to talk [TS]

00:01:18   about really quickly and the last year [TS]

00:01:20   we did a series of flash episodes [TS]

00:01:22   quickly posted unedited about Doctor [TS]

00:01:27   Who's season as it was going on mostly [TS]

00:01:30   because i love Doctor Who and I like to [TS]

00:01:31   talk about it and I and so we're gonna [TS]

00:01:33   maybe do that again a few times the [TS]

00:01:36   Doctor Who premier happened to this [TS]

00:01:38   weekend asylum of the daleks and hugo [TS]

00:01:42   awards were also given out this weekend [TS]

00:01:43   which is very interesting given our [TS]

00:01:45   podcast on that subject and most [TS]

00:01:48   importantly I'm sure far more important [TS]

00:01:50   than Hugo Awards cue the music is the [TS]

00:01:53   fact that the at-at the Dragon Con in [TS]

00:01:57   atlanta georgia they have they have an [TS]

00:02:01   award ceremony called a parsec awards [TS]

00:02:03   which is for bet the best sci-fi themed [TS]

00:02:06   podcasts and yes it is true in a [TS]

00:02:10   category far too complicated for me to [TS]

00:02:12   remember the uncomfortable was named the [TS]

00:02:15   winner so we are now officially an [TS]

00:02:18   award-winning podcast i believe it was [TS]

00:02:21   best podcast named the incompetent we [TS]

00:02:24   have to weigh with that we can we have [TS]

00:02:26   its own up its own up that's never gonna [TS]

00:02:29   dance all over that award by thinking [TS]

00:02:31   I'm edited pada that's right now we're [TS]

00:02:33   gonna sell it wasn't because I would [TS]

00:02:35   have gotten record if they can't compare [TS]

00:02:37   us to anything [TS]

00:02:38   exactly well that was my plan all along [TS]

00:02:40   i will only take Doug's milk in my [TS]

00:02:43   dressing room from now on all right [TS]

00:02:44   mighty got it thank you check that yay [TS]

00:02:47   we're an award-winning podcast now [TS]

00:02:49   anything can happen you can afford it [TS]

00:02:51   yeah that's right that's right with [TS]

00:02:53   whether this is this comes with a [TS]

00:02:54   substantial cash prize right [TS]

00:02:56   Oh clearly clearly absolutely i'm [TS]

00:02:58   waiting for that to come in i'm going to [TS]

00:03:01   check money Alex can we be the podcast [TS]

00:03:03   that maybe Kessel run in under 12 [TS]

00:03:05   parsecs we can under 12 parsecs awards [TS]

00:03:08   in jazz that's right well thank you to [TS]

00:03:11   the people who do the parks person [TS]

00:03:12   awards [TS]

00:03:13   I appreciate very much and I think [TS]

00:03:16   full credit to the excellent panel that [TS]

00:03:18   we have and have done these hundred and [TS]

00:03:21   some episodes that you know I really [TS]

00:03:23   appreciate it i think it's a fantastic [TS]

00:03:25   and they asked me to send in a thing [TS]

00:03:28   that would be like a pre-recorded thank [TS]

00:03:30   you [TS]

00:03:30   and.and on friday night i looked at the [TS]

00:03:33   clock and I said it's too late i'm very [TS]

00:03:35   sleepy i'm going to go to bed i'm not [TS]

00:03:36   going to win [TS]

00:03:37   it's fine I'll just I'll just and then [TS]

00:03:41   we we want the warden there was nothing [TS]

00:03:43   for them to play because you know it was [TS]

00:03:44   lazy sad because I actually a friend of [TS]

00:03:47   mine was at dragoncon had I known I [TS]

00:03:49   would have instructed her to go and go [TS]

00:03:50   to work to accept the award on our [TS]

00:03:52   behalf pls this well be the girlfriend [TS]

00:03:54   of one of our occasional panelists was [TS]

00:03:56   there so wow that would have been that [TS]

00:03:58   would work [TS]

00:03:58   I wonder if there's a statue anyway that [TS]

00:04:01   was that was pretty cool thing that [TS]

00:04:02   happened I your limitations doctor who [TS]

00:04:05   season premiere asylum of the daleks [TS]

00:04:08   matt smith get the old band back [TS]

00:04:11   together [TS]

00:04:12   Amy and Rory i kidnapped from the by the [TS]

00:04:16   Daleks even a an attempt by the Daleks [TS]

00:04:19   to save their marriage I think wait for [TS]

00:04:21   Daleks marriage no to save the dollar [TS]

00:04:24   the Daleks are trying to save the [TS]

00:04:25   marriage [TS]

00:04:26   yes that's right you'll be living [TS]

00:04:27   together we'll make this work [TS]

00:04:31   you just need some therapy vs the Daleks [TS]

00:04:35   our marriage counselors and they and [TS]

00:04:37   they were very helpful in kidnapping Amy [TS]

00:04:39   and Rory and taking them to the the [TS]

00:04:42   parliament of the Daleks I didn't know [TS]

00:04:46   the Daleks had a representative [TS]

00:04:47   democracy either but there you go things [TS]

00:04:50   you learn here you can see Chewbacca in [TS]

00:04:52   dt feel completely forgot it [TS]

00:04:55   yeah i thought i was really disappointed [TS]

00:04:56   when they were just 40 minutes of [TS]

00:04:58   various parliamentary procedures and [TS]

00:05:00   Robert's Rules of Order inside the [TS]

00:05:02   government all the question i move [TS]

00:05:05   except admitting something previous [TS]

00:05:07   meeting which involve the culture [TS]

00:05:10   exterminate the motion it's terrible [TS]

00:05:13   yeah that's why what do you suppose the [TS]

00:05:15   Parliament a Dalek does the rest of the [TS]

00:05:17   time if we kinda neat mix of jazz fusion [TS]

00:05:20   and don't kill people actually correct [TS]

00:05:23   into there's magic slate [TS]

00:05:26   so an executive yeah yeah um so what i [TS]

00:05:35   want so I know I don't even know what to [TS]

00:05:38   say about this i thought it was a pretty [TS]

00:05:40   interesting episode uh excited to have [TS]

00:05:42   dr. who back Daleks are problematic and [TS]

00:05:45   that their this this emblematic creature [TS]

00:05:48   it's time to Doctor Who it's in the lure [TS]

00:05:50   of in in Britain right i mean doctor who [TS]

00:05:54   in the Daleks go hand-in-hand [TS]

00:05:55   they're kinda silly they sort of told [TS]

00:05:57   all the stories that you could really [TS]

00:05:59   tell and what i thought was interesting [TS]

00:06:01   about this episode is that it really [TS]

00:06:03   didn't feel like every other Dalek [TS]

00:06:06   episode ever and really did it really [TS]

00:06:07   did feel like Steven Moffat who'd never [TS]

00:06:09   written a Dalek episode before tried to [TS]

00:06:12   constrain it and make it well this is [TS]

00:06:15   the list with a really bad Daleks are [TS]

00:06:16   and they've kind of been on their own [TS]

00:06:18   and and try to make it more creepy and [TS]

00:06:21   not have the the only scenes with the [TS]

00:06:24   mass of a thousand Daleks they're [TS]

00:06:25   sitting in their level Parliament office [TS]

00:06:27   and the rest of the time it's just kind [TS]

00:06:29   of creepy weird kind of deserted brooms [TS]

00:06:31   and and old dusty Daleks that are slowly [TS]

00:06:34   waking up and I thought it was an [TS]

00:06:36   interesting attempt to take them and [TS]

00:06:38   make them you know put them in a story [TS]

00:06:39   that was a little more interesting where [TS]

00:06:41   they could be a little more menacing and [TS]

00:06:43   not just sort of silly and ridiculous [TS]

00:06:45   not too many things because you might [TS]

00:06:46   actually then fear that they would [TS]

00:06:47   actually hit a target with their laser [TS]

00:06:49   no no it's not gonna be crazy everybody [TS]

00:06:51   hitting things that are chest high and [TS]

00:06:53   directly in front of the only Imperial [TS]

00:06:55   Stormtroopers what do Daleks and [TS]

00:07:00   stormtroopers have in common it may be [TS]

00:07:02   knocking line stairs and things like [TS]

00:07:04   that it is anyone does anyone feel like [TS]

00:07:06   the Daleks are threatening in any way [TS]

00:07:08   anymore like they just thinking more [TS]

00:07:10   like a Michael already like James Bond [TS]

00:07:13   villains just come he's right there they [TS]

00:07:14   could roll over your foot that would [TS]

00:07:16   really hurt maybe like you have a lot of [TS]

00:07:18   hacks no I mean by accident they have a [TS]

00:07:21   rubber bumper around the edges [TS]

00:07:23   yeah just pretend my pleasure to God [TS]

00:07:25   Dalek bumper cars i think we just [TS]

00:07:27   stumbled upon the greatest amusement [TS]

00:07:28   ride ever [TS]

00:07:28   well I thought that was the clever thing [TS]

00:07:30   about having the asylum and having a [TS]

00:07:31   having them be kind of waking up and [TS]

00:07:33   sleepy and broken and crazy was that it [TS]

00:07:36   was a little more of an explanation for [TS]

00:07:38   why they wouldn't [TS]

00:07:39   immediately kill everybody was in an [TS]

00:07:41   asylum of the daleks there was an old [TS]

00:07:43   age home of the dog [TS]

00:07:44   yeah at hospital I just about well he's [TS]

00:07:47   just days and Johnny prom since the big [TS]

00:07:51   time war that happened [TS]

00:07:53   no I see all the defective Daleks all [TS]

00:07:55   the Daleks said you know they're saying [TS]

00:07:57   read river you know out of operational [TS]

00:08:00   parameters we don't you love this [TS]

00:08:02   problem is figuring out i mean the [TS]

00:08:04   doctor i think the the showrunners in [TS]

00:08:05   the script writers the eye problems with [TS]

00:08:07   continuity in this episode and [TS]

00:08:09   tremendous tremendous community issues [TS]

00:08:11   because there is no added maybe [TS]

00:08:15   continuity you'll find your all but even [TS]

00:08:18   with Amy and worried but the other thing [TS]

00:08:19   is they keep they can't quite decide [TS]

00:08:21   with the Daleks are the Daleks are as we [TS]

00:08:23   know they are so there are living [TS]

00:08:25   organisms kind of like the brain part [TS]

00:08:27   stuck into a cybernetic body razor there [TS]

00:08:30   are mutants and whatever and designed by [TS]

00:08:33   dr. Ross right and but they sometimes [TS]

00:08:36   they're like robots sometimes they're [TS]

00:08:38   like living things sometimes they [TS]

00:08:39   supposed to have no feelings at all and [TS]

00:08:41   the doctors all up in their grill [TS]

00:08:43   literally about like strolling the [TS]

00:08:46   divine they have any links there hate [TS]

00:08:47   they have their hateful that they are [TS]

00:08:49   they the Cybermen have no feelings the [TS]

00:08:51   Daleks are pure eight dollars yeah [TS]

00:08:54   that's true but it's not talk about what [TS]

00:08:55   you know you got rid of anything else [TS]

00:08:56   you inside that you know metal shell [TS]

00:08:58   because you just be screaming if you [TS]

00:09:00   were I don't know it's just I think [TS]

00:09:02   there's a little confusion there in the [TS]

00:09:03   scriptwriters know we've seen a pretty [TS]

00:09:06   consistent pretty like presentation [TS]

00:09:08   Daleks I feel since the since the [TS]

00:09:10   christopher eccleston first episode with [TS]

00:09:13   that they still sort of treat them like [TS]

00:09:14   the robots that happens sometimes [TS]

00:09:16   remember there's something like the [TS]

00:09:17   whole thing with the humans being taken [TS]

00:09:20   over and the defense system will talk [TS]

00:09:21   about where like people get turned into [TS]

00:09:23   Daleks I think it's this time they [TS]

00:09:25   became Cyberman this episode all we take [TS]

00:09:27   humans and convert them it seems to be [TS]

00:09:29   their slaves except for the turns out [TS]

00:09:30   there's one that they just did a little [TS]

00:09:33   older generation they were going to do [TS]

00:09:35   that in new york city in 1931 with david [TS]

00:09:37   tennant but they got all distracted by [TS]

00:09:39   turning themselves into something when [TS]

00:09:41   people are one could argue that was the [TS]

00:09:43   asylum of the daleks it wasn't the [TS]

00:09:45   Daleks pcs it was the ones on the planet [TS]

00:09:47   where she crash-landed did the total [TS]

00:09:49   conversion so they are crazy crazy to [TS]

00:09:51   start with [TS]

00:09:52   I have a plot point question that the [TS]

00:09:54   outside of the episode they do the [TS]

00:09:55   things they've never been able to do [TS]

00:09:56   before which is they get doctor who for [TS]

00:09:58   some reason has tardisimo I guess we [TS]

00:10:00   didn't see it until he shows up [TS]

00:10:01   Department of the Daleks to get Amy and [TS]

00:10:04   Rory they bring them all together and [TS]

00:10:06   they say hey we have this problem you [TS]

00:10:07   have to help us and what what was the [TS]

00:10:09   problem that was opera coming from the [TS]

00:10:11   planet [TS]

00:10:11   yeah there were some way I was unclear [TS]

00:10:14   exactly what was terrible and the Daleks [TS]

00:10:16   we wanted to destroy the planet but [TS]

00:10:17   there was a force field they couldn't [TS]

00:10:19   stop because the amount of particle to [TS]

00:10:21   control what they want to honor the [TS]

00:10:22   products they didn't want to destroy the [TS]

00:10:23   planet because they honored their crazy [TS]

00:10:27   well not yeah but the problem was I [TS]

00:10:29   think they were worried they're all [TS]

00:10:30   going to get out basically yeah well as [TS]

00:10:33   what was that there was something fishy [TS]

00:10:33   when I was the thing that was ambiguous [TS]

00:10:35   or like the thinking something was [TS]

00:10:37   changing on the planet and they worried [TS]

00:10:39   that they'd be able to break through [TS]

00:10:40   right they thought that the this the [TS]

00:10:42   crash the spaceship crash was going to [TS]

00:10:44   lead to this chain of events that was [TS]

00:10:46   going to allow a genius evil destructive [TS]

00:10:49   Dalek to escape which i think in the end [TS]

00:10:51   the suggestion was that that the girl [TS]

00:10:53   who turns out to be a Dalek was going to [TS]

00:10:57   be this thing that would destroy the [TS]

00:10:58   Daleks and so they had to send the [TS]

00:11:01   doctor in to get to take down the force [TS]

00:11:04   field so that they could blow it up and [TS]

00:11:05   and I don't know I I it's funny we [TS]

00:11:08   usually that's a little clearer than us [TS]

00:11:10   that was five of us trying to figure out [TS]

00:11:12   what it was exactly what the dollars are [TS]

00:11:14   being but it didn't matter in contacts [TS]

00:11:16   just that I think we all forgot because [TS]

00:11:17   it doesn't matter in the end it was [TS]

00:11:18   getting confused assembly down like all [TS]

00:11:21   right fine whatever they got to go down [TS]

00:11:22   there was an internal there's a [TS]

00:11:23   convoluted chain of events but yeah he's [TS]

00:11:25   got to go to the Dalek plan and there's [TS]

00:11:26   one way switch because you only want to [TS]

00:11:28   turn the off switch inside where the [TS]

00:11:29   crazy people are not outside with people [TS]

00:11:31   that security claim that's basically [TS]

00:11:33   Dalek security 101 let me let me throw a [TS]

00:11:37   question as long as we're talking about [TS]

00:11:38   continuity so in my mind this this [TS]

00:11:40   episode takes place somewhere both after [TS]

00:11:45   the so we saw last laugh after know so [TS]

00:11:49   the faster it is a technical term you [TS]

00:11:51   don't have any wine bottle she's smiling [TS]

00:11:53   right and we saw that alluded to in the [TS]

00:11:55   episode with Craig last season yeah has [TS]

00:11:58   to be out but after that because I think [TS]

00:12:01   we see I don't we see her isn't Rory [TS]

00:12:04   there too [TS]

00:12:04   yeah yeah [TS]

00:12:05   yes so we're better together see ya [TS]

00:12:07   there briefly he's briefly with them in [TS]

00:12:09   the season finale right and then this is [TS]

00:12:12   the next time you know we see that [TS]

00:12:14   everyone watch pond life the prequel yes [TS]

00:12:16   okay yes no apparently there was another [TS]

00:12:18   prequels just really yeah that's the [TS]

00:12:20   yeah it's all it's all on youtube [TS]

00:12:21   yeah wasn't actually a nice first bird [TS]

00:12:24   with matt smith was that it was actually [TS]

00:12:27   my first episode with matt smith wow I [TS]

00:12:30   just jump right in Hannah I got bored [TS]

00:12:32   partway through the david tennant season [TS]

00:12:33   we kept whining about missing rose [TS]

00:12:36   uh I got a long way to go oh and I [TS]

00:12:40   didn't realize it was starting up again [TS]

00:12:41   so soon [TS]

00:12:42   it gets better it gets better you gotta [TS]

00:12:44   love Catherine Tate was marvelous yeah [TS]

00:12:46   that was good season loved her [TS]

00:12:47   yeah we'll try to let her but [TS]

00:12:48   unfortunately i now think of hers that [TS]

00:12:50   awful woman on the office [TS]

00:12:51   haha oh I was at that's backwards [TS]

00:12:54   certainly out-of-sequence she's quite a [TS]

00:12:56   terminal adapter that's appropriate then [TS]

00:12:57   also we had pond life that leads into [TS]

00:13:00   this which is funny [TS]

00:13:02   although that the the direct lead-in is [TS]

00:13:04   a little bit abrupt yeah with the 1i got [TS]

00:13:07   their marriage is falling apart right [TS]

00:13:08   now right now is some sort of silence [TS]

00:13:11   scene involving yelling and I think that [TS]

00:13:13   up i blame the food yet [TS]

00:13:15   really that's a sign that's the sign [TS]

00:13:17   that Amy is a model now is that her for [TS]

00:13:19   eye makeup as much darker yeah and [TS]

00:13:22   inspect it [TS]

00:13:23   she's mean a model i do want to talk [TS]

00:13:25   about the you briefly because i have [TS]

00:13:27   never laughed anything order then [TS]

00:13:29   there's a nude on the low and it goes on [TS]

00:13:31   and it goes on like if you're really [TS]

00:13:33   guilty about this is the eat the [TS]

00:13:34   delicious breakfasts that you're making [TS]

00:13:36   just seen the domestic scenes doing is [TS]

00:13:39   doing a joke about finding a new food [TS]

00:13:42   sitting on your bathroom is the only on [TS]

00:13:44   your toilet your bathroom that would be [TS]

00:13:45   funny but the fact that they then [TS]

00:13:47   followed it up with an entire other [TS]

00:13:48   episode where the who becomes the butler [TS]

00:13:51   because that's what they do they like to [TS]

00:13:53   do that [TS]

00:13:53   making breakfast yes to the journals on [TS]

00:13:56   and on the right is funny about this he [TS]

00:13:58   says eating is scottish breakfast so so [TS]

00:14:00   the episode itself you know the where [TS]

00:14:04   we're looking for Oswin who is this girl [TS]

00:14:07   who is chatting up the doctor via fire [TS]

00:14:10   radio and and he he is trying to find [TS]

00:14:13   her and she's sort of the source of [TS]

00:14:14   where this is all going on [TS]

00:14:16   and what is interesting about this is i [TS]

00:14:19   follow this show enough to realize that [TS]

00:14:22   Roman she comes the moment she comes on [TS]

00:14:24   screen this is general Louise Coleman [TS]

00:14:26   who is playing the new companion later [TS]

00:14:28   this season [TS]

00:14:28   mhm and so then you're thinking oh it is [TS]

00:14:31   this a hint or we're going to be meeting [TS]

00:14:32   her and it turns out well this spoilers [TS]

00:14:35   it's a from a British TV perspective [TS]

00:14:38   there are no spoilers here she's been [TS]

00:14:39   announced everybody supposed to see her [TS]

00:14:41   and go oh isn't are we seeing the new [TS]

00:14:43   companion early and then at the end it [TS]

00:14:46   turns out though she's a Dalek and then [TS]

00:14:47   the plant closed up [TS]

00:14:48   I had no idea she was new companions [TS]

00:14:50   Cruz idea she was a dog that actress is [TS]

00:14:53   the new companion [TS]

00:14:54   yeah yeah well I call that I saw her [TS]

00:14:56   right away and thought she looks a [TS]

00:14:58   little like the girl with the new can [TS]

00:15:00   possibly be heard yeah that's her John i [TS]

00:15:02   knew i knew it was anyway this pot was [TS]

00:15:04   going so you figured out that you're [TS]

00:15:06   right i'll let you going to be a Dalek [TS]

00:15:07   and I convinced myself it wasn't her and [TS]

00:15:09   then i looked at the you know credit [TS]

00:15:10   management yeah that's her that's her [TS]

00:15:12   that now i'm confused but we really like [TS]

00:15:14   Therese hear her saucy flirty dialogue [TS]

00:15:18   coming out of the Dalek haha got with [TS]

00:15:22   just the Dalek and stuff what I'm on [TS]

00:15:24   over here Jen boy [TS]

00:15:26   why do they always wrap Dalek in chains [TS]

00:15:29   that are easily breakable and consistent [TS]

00:15:32   theme have a lot of torque and those [TS]

00:15:34   little wheels in the Daleks wrapped in [TS]

00:15:36   chains on it would threat they don't [TS]

00:15:39   even have hands will you know these [TS]

00:15:40   these creatures were doing pretty good [TS]

00:15:42   really have to work with a plunger they [TS]

00:15:44   should have stopped him to the wall with [TS]

00:15:45   the planet do you live at times you have [TS]

00:15:48   wanted because be a plumber [TS]

00:15:50   I've left six right anyone that the [TS]

00:15:54   Daleks you know that this is its it [TS]

00:15:56   these things are tied together the [TS]

00:15:58   Daleks and Doctor Who and and a doctor [TS]

00:16:01   who has come a long way since 1963 but [TS]

00:16:04   the Daleks are you know they look the [TS]

00:16:07   way they are that they are what they are [TS]

00:16:09   and they were there a creature created [TS]

00:16:11   for a kids TV show in 1963 and and [TS]

00:16:14   that's what I always feel like when I [TS]

00:16:16   see the modern Doctor Who addressing the [TS]

00:16:17   Daleks it's like they gotta do it [TS]

00:16:19   everybody loves them in the UK and [TS]

00:16:21   they're they're so tied together and yet [TS]

00:16:23   they are ridiculous and it is a [TS]

00:16:25   difficult thing and you always since [TS]

00:16:27   every episode Rob Sherman's Dalek the [TS]

00:16:30   crew [TS]

00:16:30   direction episode which was an excellent [TS]

00:16:31   episode but you know you could feel its [TS]

00:16:33   the what do I do with this how can i [TS]

00:16:36   make these guys problem at all relevant [TS]

00:16:39   or interesting and in that episode they [TS]

00:16:41   really did because it's a single one its [TS]

00:16:43   portrayed as being this kind of [TS]

00:16:44   incredible killing machine the sucker [TS]

00:16:46   actually the punch heard kills a guy [TS]

00:16:48   with the plunger excellent weapons in [TS]

00:16:51   that happens in one of the two-part [TS]

00:16:53   season ends to they use the plungers to [TS]

00:16:55   suck a guy's memory out the class carros [TS]

00:16:58   right so so that there are these [TS]

00:17:00   attempts but you do [TS]

00:17:01   they're like original series Klingons [TS]

00:17:03   but the other struggling with their like [TS]

00:17:05   how can we make them and so you see in [TS]

00:17:07   this episode you see Steven Moffat like [TS]

00:17:08   what can i do to set this up so that [TS]

00:17:10   they seem scary and they don't seem too [TS]

00:17:13   ridiculous and we don't have them be [TS]

00:17:15   because you can't just if all you do is [TS]

00:17:18   kind of roll them out and have them be [TS]

00:17:19   we will destroy you it's not that [TS]

00:17:22   interesting because they are these [TS]

00:17:24   ridiculous monsters from 1963 [TS]

00:17:26   I feel like half the time we see them [TS]

00:17:27   the doctor says something like time was [TS]

00:17:30   one of you could have destroyed all plan [TS]

00:17:32   all life on this planet but now I'm [TS]

00:17:34   facing down aw and stop that scary you [TS]

00:17:36   know what happened to you guys [TS]

00:17:37   hey he's any stops them with his mouths [TS]

00:17:39   words yeah you spare defeated by speech [TS]

00:17:43   now used to be a contender [TS]

00:17:45   although this time you know again that [TS]

00:17:49   the ABA it's almost like Steven Moffat [TS]

00:17:51   is just laying it out there it's what if [TS]

00:17:53   we bring the dot dr. in front of [TS]

00:17:54   thousands of dollars you're thinking [TS]

00:17:56   like well yeah [TS]

00:17:56   thousands of dollars they're totally [TS]

00:17:58   they should be able to destroy them but [TS]

00:18:00   they're not going to because this is not [TS]

00:18:02   what the shows about and so he turns it [TS]

00:18:04   on a teddy has some they help us help us [TS]

00:18:06   and and the doctors well that's know [TS]

00:18:09   right i mean it's that you can see in [TS]

00:18:11   every every page of the script it's an [TS]

00:18:14   attempt to make the Daleks be put in a [TS]

00:18:17   different position just to make them [TS]

00:18:19   more interesting but without I forgotten [TS]

00:18:22   the also i just ask at the end of the [TS]

00:18:25   episode even though they don't remember [TS]

00:18:27   him [TS]

00:18:27   shouldn't they kill him anyway that's [TS]

00:18:31   all the more reason we should kill him [TS]

00:18:32   because his amazing intimidation factor [TS]

00:18:34   huh [TS]

00:18:34   here's that guy that were so intimidated [TS]

00:18:36   by me refused to fire a shot yeah but [TS]

00:18:38   he's got already been in the marketplace [TS]

00:18:40   chances around a lot may have a really [TS]

00:18:41   hard time having [TS]

00:18:43   well he's here but he teleports into the [TS]

00:18:46   into the TARDIS right so he's basically [TS]

00:18:47   these pokes his head out and says yeah [TS]

00:18:49   what you said they got a shield or [TS]

00:18:50   something right [TS]

00:18:52   he's going to order something they can't [TS]

00:18:53   too much money had they had the pad out [TS]

00:18:55   the episode with John because they [TS]

00:18:57   definitely ahead it was just and really [TS]

00:18:58   quick i lost track of universes and so [TS]

00:19:01   forth now we're here we go so we're into [TS]

00:19:03   the right track continuity again when he [TS]

00:19:05   in the doctor fantabulous magical [TS]

00:19:08   Pandorica in that series of episodes [TS]

00:19:11   universe reboots in the Daleks aren't [TS]

00:19:13   part of the universe but then later in [TS]

00:19:15   the world war two Winston Churchill [TS]

00:19:17   episode oh when no no let's just don't [TS]

00:19:20   even talk about the rebooting the [TS]

00:19:21   universe the Daleks are always part of [TS]

00:19:23   the universe but so but I've been [TS]

00:19:24   destroyed over and over the dogs yes and [TS]

00:19:26   they always come back because they [TS]

00:19:28   contractually obligated they're like [TS]

00:19:30   cockroaches they are their endless and [TS]

00:19:33   wars in the sense and if you're on a [TS]

00:19:35   planet clock cockroaches scarier if [TS]

00:19:38   you're gonna planted in the end you're [TS]

00:19:39   smart enough you just get totally [TS]

00:19:40   converted by nana genes into being a [TS]

00:19:43   Dalek [TS]

00:19:43   that's why I first why you have a cloud [TS]

00:19:46   if you've got a force field that [TS]

00:19:48   prevents people from going to thing and [TS]

00:19:50   like who's that exactly that aimed at [TS]

00:19:52   because there's a lot of dog end up on [TS]

00:19:54   the asylum list by did he should be my [TS]

00:19:58   texts are men a mother might s7 you i [TS]

00:20:03   just like to dispute ship your blog that [TS]

00:20:06   event the forehead bursters yeah yeah [TS]

00:20:09   and effect for them some guys taking a [TS]

00:20:10   cork out of a bottle of the fully [TS]

00:20:12   robotic like three times [TS]

00:20:15   yeah so now that the Daleks don't know [TS]

00:20:17   who the doctor is to decide just go [TS]

00:20:19   around everybody i need your first [TS]

00:20:21   thinks he's dead which makes some really [TS]

00:20:22   interesting conversations I remember [TS]

00:20:23   that guy the doctor now [TS]

00:20:25   no no although again I i like the fact [TS]

00:20:29   that that it's really them saying that [TS]

00:20:33   this show is just you can have it be [TS]

00:20:35   that everybody in the universe already [TS]

00:20:37   knows who he is and knows what he's [TS]

00:20:39   going to do and every time we meet the [TS]

00:20:40   Daleks and dogs are gonna say the osu we [TS]

00:20:42   know who you are and it's like it's like [TS]

00:20:45   you're watching we're watching his name [TS]

00:20:47   for you for watching a read on whether [TS]

00:20:49   in progress editor thing come from [TS]

00:20:52   let's watch the movie with Arnold [TS]

00:20:54   Schwarzenegger was [TS]

00:20:54   very silly name you're like at you know [TS]

00:20:57   in that movie destination about myself [TS]

00:21:00   or like to be an alien know now the [TS]

00:21:03   other one [TS]

00:21:04   terminator well my references dolly [TS]

00:21:11   completely dark your presence all the [TS]

00:21:12   way to that's this is the one that's the [TS]

00:21:14   one yeah those are really good Dalek [TS]

00:21:15   impressions to that's all it is well the [TS]

00:21:17   Daleks you know they are it's like [TS]

00:21:19   they're getting them out of the way here [TS]

00:21:20   I thought this was a fun episode it yeah [TS]

00:21:22   because it's a rock it's a romp and [TS]

00:21:24   there's a there it's it's made for [TS]

00:21:26   action and it's you know you know [TS]

00:21:29   there's the big hand wave like look to [TS]

00:21:31   suffice it to say that where the Daleks [TS]

00:21:33   and we're going to send you on a mission [TS]

00:21:34   even though your enemy and you're going [TS]

00:21:35   to go to this planet and you've got to [TS]

00:21:37   do this thing and and and at that point [TS]

00:21:39   we and we're going to split we're gonna [TS]

00:21:41   have a beam that doesn't fire quite [TS]

00:21:43   accurately so that it splits you up so [TS]

00:21:46   that the plot can commence in various [TS]

00:21:47   locations [TS]

00:21:48   oh and Doc the doctors someone everybody [TS]

00:21:51   thinks he's dead and he's being sent [TS]

00:21:53   into a big prison like thing to do a [TS]

00:21:55   thing [TS]

00:21:55   this is just escaped from New York all [TS]

00:21:57   over again exactly exactly escape escape [TS]

00:21:59   from Dalek New York don't forget the [TS]

00:22:02   idea doctor sent you a lot of sense [TS]

00:22:06   plotline this thing between Rory and Amy [TS]

00:22:08   so you have the pond life thing which [TS]

00:22:10   sets up the fact that they're split but [TS]

00:22:12   you don't have to watch that because [TS]

00:22:13   they establish that literally like five [TS]

00:22:14   sentences that established the entire [TS]

00:22:16   arc of they're divorced ah and there now [TS]

00:22:20   they're back together and everything's [TS]

00:22:21   finding it like that the five sentences [TS]

00:22:23   here's my junk start with a word I could [TS]

00:22:24   tell they were divorced i have a john [TS]

00:22:26   siracusa scale complaint which is no bad [TS]

00:22:29   like what magnitude honor keeps this [TS]

00:22:32   game in with six Amy sister Lori we know [TS]

00:22:36   you always wanted kids and we can't have [TS]

00:22:37   any I'm like river song I know she's [TS]

00:22:39   grown up I said that my wife and I like [TS]

00:22:42   that about like she doesn't count as I [TS]

00:22:44   don't wear it somewhere river song is [TS]

00:22:46   crying in her sleep [TS]

00:22:47   my parents never loved me no matter when [TS]

00:22:51   she was even a baby for a little while [TS]

00:22:53   very very very brief but no she was like [TS]

00:22:55   ooh baby yes use the fake-boob baby and [TS]

00:22:58   adapters they raised his mouth they had [TS]

00:23:00   some time with their they can all work [TS]

00:23:02   cjohnson I was right yeah it's really [TS]

00:23:05   just true but never like my complaint [TS]

00:23:07   was their divorce thing like it [TS]

00:23:09   I was hoping this was gonna be a [TS]

00:23:10   season-long arc where they're split up [TS]

00:23:12   but no it's all resolved in five [TS]

00:23:14   sentences in a single episode weird [TS]

00:23:16   voice for a reason that would have been [TS]

00:23:17   solved by three seconds talking to each [TS]

00:23:19   other and then it was established by [TS]

00:23:21   like one silent scene with dramatic [TS]

00:23:23   music playing over it in a webisode oh [TS]

00:23:25   you know divorced ok sign this paper [TS]

00:23:27   oh you just want babies no really okay [TS]

00:23:30   fine that's it that was it you want to [TS]

00:23:31   Joseon no Doctor Who and the broken [TS]

00:23:34   relationships should have been issued [TS]

00:23:35   have been a season of the doctor at the [TS]

00:23:37   end of every episode pulling a scope [TS]

00:23:38   down and it's scanning amy was saying [TS]

00:23:40   divorced and not not divorced divorced [TS]

00:23:43   not to fluorescent protein so I know I [TS]

00:23:45   that and that Glenn is exactly why I'm [TS]

00:23:47   glad that this was resolved in one scene [TS]

00:23:49   in this episode right i have it though [TS]

00:23:51   like I know that this is there supposed [TS]

00:23:53   to be like leaving that I do know that [TS]

00:23:54   much about seasons there they're out of [TS]

00:23:56   here right so find this is a great way [TS]

00:23:58   to get the matter have them split up and [TS]

00:24:00   then have one died i don't care do [TS]

00:24:01   something but don't like saying i [TS]

00:24:02   reinforced all the back together [TS]

00:24:03   it started so many times are these died [TS]

00:24:05   so yeah they've done they've done that [TS]

00:24:07   when I did I did really in this episode [TS]

00:24:09   they almost both I think we turned over [TS]

00:24:10   knew I think we've turned over a new [TS]

00:24:12   leaf with killing worry I'll be proved [TS]

00:24:13   wrong next week when a dinosaur eats [TS]

00:24:15   something you can experience the true [TS]

00:24:17   death to use something from true blood [TS]

00:24:18   is a superb it's everywhere there's also [TS]

00:24:22   another big thing I don't understand the [TS]

00:24:24   whole nano bit nanobots no gene thing [TS]

00:24:27   was was I don't know where confusing i [TS]

00:24:30   did like the scene in the escape pod [TS]

00:24:32   that was actually kind of Awesome and [TS]

00:24:34   sort of whore scale creepy not the dead [TS]

00:24:36   bodies but the guy going [TS]

00:24:37   you're right i did die I die I body was [TS]

00:24:41   preserved by the ice [TS]

00:24:42   how did I forget that you're like oh [TS]

00:24:44   that's a nice line lots of nice i I'll [TS]

00:24:47   you know the the fact that the doctor [TS]

00:24:50   gets them together and they have that [TS]

00:24:51   whole scene where they realized they [TS]

00:24:53   love each other and they cut to the [TS]

00:24:54   monitor and he's straightening his [TS]

00:24:55   bowtie and it's like yep that's I meant [TS]

00:24:58   to do that i just really like i was i [TS]

00:25:00   was a fan of where do you get the milk [TS]

00:25:04   oh yeah yeah yeah yeah and she's making [TS]

00:25:06   a soufflĂ© that's where the plot [TS]

00:25:07   I mean they were being quite as clever [TS]

00:25:09   me they were trying to be that everybody [TS]

00:25:10   wanted us to feel the whole time like we [TS]

00:25:13   need and how it's going to be a dayton [TS]

00:25:14   mall and they set us up for travel with [TS]

00:25:16   something wrong there right and not just [TS]

00:25:18   the milk right red incredibly well it [TS]

00:25:20   perfect outfit and making a soufflĂ© you [TS]

00:25:22   know that's not you know not just the [TS]

00:25:24   milk to draw the eggs eggs eggs eggs [TS]

00:25:28   style magnate yeah those eggs then stir [TS]

00:25:33   and then she can oh yeah she's lost it [TS]

00:25:37   and i think i think i should play didn't [TS]

00:25:39   work on twitter i think Steven Moffat [TS]

00:25:40   said that at one point you can see that [TS]

00:25:42   she actually has an eggbeater in her [TS]

00:25:45   little utility belt yeah [TS]

00:25:46   and of course the Daleks have a little [TS]

00:25:48   egg beater thing on there huh [TS]

00:25:49   see she said I like getting at it over [TS]

00:25:52   the eggs its eggs and milk [TS]

00:25:56   I was a yes I thought the not-so [TS]

00:25:59   husband's performance the actions [TS]

00:26:01   performed a loose I thought gentleman [TS]

00:26:02   you what's that [TS]

00:26:03   jenna-louise Coleman internet and i will [TS]

00:26:05   learn her name yes and well and well [TS]

00:26:07   because you'll have to notion of louise [TS]

00:26:09   coleman and she was doing the catherine [TS]

00:26:11   tate I thought there was that kind of [TS]

00:26:13   data thing that she did that [TS]

00:26:14   confrontation so well with you that one [TS]

00:26:17   thing that she does she doesn't get the [TS]

00:26:19   new technical issue is i think that's x [TS]

00:26:21   which is the chest with you know that [TS]

00:26:22   kind of thing that little dude it she [TS]

00:26:24   didn't have that was sort of capitalism [TS]

00:26:26   and she did a bunch and I I didn't see I [TS]

00:26:29   didn't see it is catherine tate but I'd [TS]

00:26:30   like i did like her I thought her [TS]

00:26:31   performance really had a good chemistry [TS]

00:26:33   too i think despite not sharing any [TS]

00:26:35   screen like direct screen time I thought [TS]

00:26:38   they did a good job because she's there [TS]

00:26:39   like your changes [TS]

00:26:41   yeah i know i was ice I saw her and [TS]

00:26:43   thought oh you know she's good i can see [TS]

00:26:45   why the caster its ranks Lou Grant [TS]

00:26:47   you're on the wrong show [TS]

00:26:49   suck it is a classic I'll manifested as [TS]

00:26:52   there had been a companion Mary Tyler [TS]

00:26:54   Dalek that would be a great show [TS]

00:26:57   no no greater is not a word rosary at [TS]

00:27:00   the end of the credit she throws her egg [TS]

00:27:01   beater up in the air that wasn't the [TS]

00:27:03   grave gun fires and destroys it [TS]

00:27:05   you're gonna exterminate it after all no [TS]

00:27:08   dude very very dark more excellent [TS]

00:27:14   I any other thoughts about about asylum [TS]

00:27:17   of the daleks you know how like the that [TS]

00:27:20   we are still in that universe as we were [TS]

00:27:21   saying would be with the doctor being [TS]

00:27:23   dead and i liked it that you know we had [TS]

00:27:25   that little echo at the end right of the [TS]

00:27:27   question [TS]

00:27:28   oh yes [TS]

00:27:29   whatever who will be first question [TS]

00:27:31   Doctor Who I felt like leaned on that [TS]

00:27:34   for about five minutes too long [TS]

00:27:37   it's the name of the show you get a bit [TS]

00:27:39   with the doctor who doctor ? maybe [TS]

00:27:42   there's been too much and how I feel [TS]

00:27:43   like you can pull that out like once [TS]

00:27:44   every five seasons and I don't like come [TS]

00:27:46   on again trouble try calling the [TS]

00:27:48   character doctor who and they don't that [TS]

00:27:50   people are freaked out the show now [TS]

00:27:52   that's without although to be fair John [TS]

00:27:54   it was really like the last scene of the [TS]

00:27:55   last season and it's in the very it's in [TS]

00:27:57   the last scene of the first episode of [TS]

00:27:59   the new season and I assume that's sort [TS]

00:28:02   of resetting I think he's gonna and [TS]

00:28:04   every episode and so does gonna be [TS]

00:28:06   people chanting Doctor Who gonna make it [TS]

00:28:09   after wonder who dr who that's right [TS]

00:28:12   yeah in the Western episode that's [TS]

00:28:14   coming up felt that will be that that [TS]

00:28:16   thing it's you know doc holliday and no [TS]

00:28:18   no Doctor Who Doctor Who I think it was [TS]

00:28:22   the in the webisode of whatever thing [TS]

00:28:25   upon lighting where he comes into their [TS]

00:28:27   bedroom and tries to warn them about [TS]

00:28:29   something that hasn't happened yet [TS]

00:28:31   you know nevermind everything and i'm [TS]

00:28:33   assuming they show like seems from that [TS]

00:28:34   from the upcoming right and that that [TS]

00:28:36   should happen more often than a time [TS]

00:28:38   traveler there is and when he comes in [TS]

00:28:40   flight the thing very well so you know [TS]

00:28:42   that doesn't make six everybody [TS]

00:28:43   everything is Mike six people remember [TS]

00:28:45   we found that our weapons and the but no [TS]

00:28:47   the best part of that that particular [TS]

00:28:49   webisodes that brewery says something [TS]

00:28:51   like oh I hate when this happens i hate [TS]

00:28:53   when he does this like this is not the [TS]

00:28:54   first time that he's just coming into [TS]

00:28:56   their bedroom in the middle of the night [TS]

00:28:57   well it's interesting that these guys [TS]

00:28:59   are unique in the companions in the [TS]

00:29:00   history of convenience is that they come [TS]

00:29:02   and go now it will be for everyone [TS]

00:29:03   always travel with him and they should [TS]

00:29:04   dump them somewhere was sent to [TS]

00:29:06   Gallifrey you trying to butter bread [TS]

00:29:08   waste that's right bye-bye memory chain [TS]

00:29:14   Mary changing classic Spiderman uh [TS]

00:29:18   please J and no Jesus well when the Glen [TS]

00:29:23   body's broken down again get it's not [TS]

00:29:26   have a honor [TS]

00:29:28   yep shopping [TS]

00:29:29   go ahead and slowly being transformed [TS]

00:29:31   into a Dalek by ionic cloud absolutely [TS]

00:29:34   i'm glad we didn't actually resolve that [TS]

00:29:36   plot plot point that had been really [TS]

00:29:38   wonderful of you being converted into a [TS]

00:29:40   Dalek but not know the man at like the [TS]

00:29:42   nano jeans is like it's terrible we're [TS]

00:29:44   all going to nevermind [TS]

00:29:45   yeah it's fine i like now I know she [TS]

00:29:48   partially converted now [TS]

00:29:49   yeah they are they both she well I got [TS]

00:29:52   really took it up and what I really like [TS]

00:29:54   that with the doctor but they didn't [TS]

00:29:55   really explain it the whole oh he's a [TS]

00:29:57   time when he probably doesn't have [TS]

00:29:58   always wanted [TS]

00:29:59   maybe maybe he does it start by eating [TS]

00:30:02   your love and more love you have the [TS]

00:30:05   longer it takes to turn into a doll and [TS]

00:30:07   I think we can do this mathematically [TS]

00:30:09   guys because I've heard that the [TS]

00:30:10   lovemaking is equal to do it [TS]

00:30:15   oh wow equation in here somewhere [TS]

00:30:19   that's right that's right that's what [TS]

00:30:21   confuses the Daleks that thing I think [TS]

00:30:23   is unique about the Rory and Amy pair [TS]

00:30:25   from the side only started watching with [TS]

00:30:28   that accent so did I know like these [TS]

00:30:30   things is that not that they're spunky [TS]

00:30:31   so they seem to have a kind of cynical [TS]

00:30:34   world-weary added to it like a paternal [TS]

00:30:36   attitude towards the doctor mostly other [TS]

00:30:38   ones were tend to be in all of him or or [TS]

00:30:40   write a long time but I got that doctor [TS]

00:30:42   guy again and they're like oh I kind of [TS]

00:30:43   Miss this is kind of fun like maybe this [TS]

00:30:45   is the impression from the webisodes [TS]

00:30:47   only starting to see more cynical about [TS]

00:30:48   it i just wish they would also be more [TS]

00:30:50   intelligent like when he burst into the [TS]

00:30:52   room and says oh nevermind that hasn't [TS]

00:30:54   happened yet you should worry just why [TS]

00:30:55   you're here right down like a synopsis [TS]

00:30:57   of the current episode that you're in so [TS]

00:30:59   that when we cannot do it was the one [TS]

00:31:01   episode that's really did that with the [TS]

00:31:03   with the original silence was the [TS]

00:31:06   episode like the blank ya think that's [TS]

00:31:08   basically he goes running by with a [TS]

00:31:10   crossbow not like here you need this is [TS]

00:31:12   like I haven't done the house just hold [TS]

00:31:14   on to it you'll need it later okay and [TS]

00:31:15   you'll get stuck in 1969 just go here's [TS]

00:31:18   the wrists act surprised yes [TS]

00:31:20   yeah exactly [TS]

00:31:23   no i think it was i think it's actually [TS]

00:31:25   is very entertaining was one of these [TS]

00:31:26   rollicking episodes lots of stuff for [TS]

00:31:28   you know Horror Show style Fitness giant [TS]

00:31:31   plot elements creepy and then it's a [TS]

00:31:33   beautiful women woman at the end and [TS]

00:31:35   then the big reveal she's a great little [TS]

00:31:37   Dyke season or did it didn't feel like [TS]

00:31:40   it set up the season know [TS]

00:31:41   just like an episode of cleaner episode [TS]

00:31:44   so my impression of this season is that [TS]

00:31:46   there is nothing to set up that that [TS]

00:31:49   that the gonna run around and don't know [TS]

00:31:51   that the only meet you Adam is such as [TS]

00:31:54   individual sort of blockbuster yeah the [TS]

00:31:56   feedback from last season I think of how [TS]

00:31:58   r kv it was has been taken to the point [TS]

00:32:01   where this and i suspect that there is a [TS]

00:32:04   a big storyline coming for the 50th [TS]

00:32:06   anniversary next year so this season is [TS]

00:32:09   essentially all standalone episodes and [TS]

00:32:12   i think that the Ark is moving into the [TS]

00:32:14   background for a little while so we [TS]

00:32:16   gotta get rid of your name right that's [TS]

00:32:18   the artist was we got it i think there's [TS]

00:32:19   an episode i think that's a single [TS]

00:32:21   episode that headless monks probably [TS]

00:32:24   hoping i don't i don't know if that's [TS]

00:32:25   happening this season or if it's [TS]

00:32:27   something that they're saving for the [TS]

00:32:28   50th I think that fields of trenzalore [TS]

00:32:30   and all those things our 50th [TS]

00:32:32   anniversary material and they're not [TS]

00:32:33   going to deal with it this this season [TS]

00:32:35   will call it the 14 doctors ya round up [TS]

00:32:38   everyone who is alive and see what [TS]

00:32:39   happens and maybe even some of the ones [TS]

00:32:41   who are dead just recast them no one [TS]

00:32:43   will just get this route you know modify [TS]

00:32:44   the tupac hologram put the heart melt [TS]

00:32:48   nearly out all the hype as you're back [TS]

00:32:50   by ronald reagan yeah that's the way [TS]

00:32:52   your heart no hologram [TS]

00:32:54   it's coming it's gonna happen with a [TS]

00:32:55   great six and then he's gonna give us [TS]

00:32:57   our election results [TS]

00:32:58   oh they could do what they did on [TS]

00:32:59   Sopranos really constructed a new [TS]

00:33:01   robotic Livia soprano other old clips [TS]

00:33:05   yeah exactly i don't think the BBC has a [TS]

00:33:08   budget for that can make like Fred [TS]

00:33:10   Astaire Dance of the vacuum cleaner [TS]

00:33:11   something like that they give you [TS]

00:33:12   anything you can do anything dance with [TS]

00:33:14   a Dalek for the circle dance with Alec [TS]

00:33:16   Sadler being all the old doctors have [TS]

00:33:18   been converted into Daleks that's what [TS]

00:33:21   like in the pale moonlight [TS]

00:33:22   I'm not sure a Dalek can dance without [TS]

00:33:25   having legs it the Dalek dances as the [TS]

00:33:28   title did you see them there was that [TS]

00:33:29   whole scene where they were waltzing [TS]

00:33:30   yeah that well that was just kind of [TS]

00:33:32   idly spinning around sure i'll buy it i [TS]

00:33:34   didn't have like that that scene where [TS]

00:33:36   where Amy thought that the Daleks were [TS]

00:33:37   little friendly people and it is like [TS]

00:33:40   that friendly i got to be on various [TS]

00:33:42   strange like that table reading that [TS]

00:33:45   once again could not she regularly [TS]

00:33:47   didn't even have it is look again you [TS]

00:33:49   have plenty of time trust me they won't [TS]

00:33:50   attack they'll just slowly travel [TS]

00:33:52   towards you just look again all i see [TS]

00:33:53   now i have time to [TS]

00:33:54   shocked and run good thing they didn't [TS]

00:33:56   fire on me I didn't like the idea that [TS]

00:33:58   we get around asylum [TS]

00:34:00   I did like that we get that like you [TS]

00:34:02   know the edgy bit of the doctor where he [TS]

00:34:04   kills all you know all wanted the Daleks [TS]

00:34:06   by turning one of them into a bomb [TS]

00:34:07   basically and then he gets that to [TS]

00:34:09   deliver that smug you know who killed [TS]

00:34:11   all the Daleks who do you think you are [TS]

00:34:13   the Ducks I liked that line I did not [TS]

00:34:15   like the line on a scale of one to ten [TS]

00:34:17   eleven letters that's that's great [TS]

00:34:19   writing their guys on a scale of 1 to 10 [TS]

00:34:22   I'm the 11th it's like the the spinal [TS]

00:34:25   tap Joker's come all the way back around [TS]

00:34:28   to our dog this should be called this [TS]

00:34:30   episode we called our dollar goes to 11 [TS]

00:34:32   ask yourself how much you know honestly [TS]

00:34:34   be an answer is to be fair marks on a [TS]

00:34:36   scale of one to ten for the doctor this [TS]

00:34:38   is like a six [TS]

00:34:39   yeah that would have been a much better [TS]

00:34:41   line is a loved one's dead hard sex yeah [TS]

00:34:45   this is your parents having planets and [TS]

00:34:47   hide them through this and actually so [TS]

00:34:49   I'd say we're doing pretty well veteran [TS]

00:34:50   no one's trying to kill us right now and [TS]

00:34:53   we're all in the same room nobody's [TS]

00:34:54   captured separately don't remember to ok [TS]

00:34:57   let's all three right there [TS]

00:34:59   yeah you think this is bad I do this all [TS]

00:35:02   the time i got that was Michael thursday [TS]

00:35:04   i just realize that that line of the [TS]

00:35:06   beginning the bit about dr. needs his [TS]

00:35:08   companions I was like man must have his [TS]

00:35:10   made this no one can deny just I don't [TS]

00:35:13   strike me as very odd thing like we is [TS]

00:35:16   the Dalek ex machina a part of the third [TS]

00:35:19   wish something would strike you [TS]

00:35:20   they know that the doctor always has a [TS]

00:35:23   companion they haven't noticed he also [TS]

00:35:25   always kills all the galaxies meets sure [TS]

00:35:27   you're not better recognition is not [TS]

00:35:29   this one [TS]

00:35:30   it's our points with the Dalek driving [TS]

00:35:31   the bus good but stoppage rather it was [TS]

00:35:35   a converted convertible for you major [TS]

00:35:37   what were the converted human dollars [TS]

00:35:39   doing on earth not even i don't know i [TS]

00:35:42   really think it's a dollar technology at [TS]

00:35:44   the bus so what I don't know [TS]

00:35:46   oh it's a bad idea but but i will [TS]

00:35:48   exterminate that's no no you can't go [TS]

00:35:51   just to exterminate the people outside [TS]

00:35:52   the bus not inside of us that's all we [TS]

00:35:54   ask is also the Daleks do adults drives [TS]

00:35:57   buses Dalek side are our makeup artist [TS]

00:36:00   Alex you a lot of things and ecology mr. [TS]

00:36:03   daughter who is available to any more [TS]

00:36:05   okay that i did like the dollar [TS]

00:36:07   convertible [TS]

00:36:08   when was she seemed to be very underused [TS]

00:36:09   the beginning when she lures the doctor [TS]

00:36:11   then she has a couple really funny lines [TS]

00:36:13   and then you know just all spiffy outfit [TS]

00:36:16   yeah [TS]

00:36:16   spiffy not very Dolly outfit she before [TS]

00:36:20   she was a Dalek was really bothering me [TS]

00:36:21   that she was a super-hacker that could [TS]

00:36:23   turn off all the security system right [TS]

00:36:25   but still thought the best way to keep [TS]

00:36:27   her door closes two pound wood across [TS]

00:36:29   the door there's a clear head of the [TS]

00:36:31   Lord Almighty one of the many many [TS]

00:36:33   signals this is a dream sequence yes you [TS]

00:36:35   someone hammering would against the door [TS]

00:36:37   in a spaceship expendable and also the [TS]

00:36:39   dream sequence and planks you always [TS]

00:36:41   bring wooden planks with you on your [TS]

00:36:42   spaceship cliff either way the [TS]

00:36:44   fashionable building show the [TS]

00:36:46   fashionable woman yeah is dressed that [TS]

00:36:48   way because if she was wearing like a [TS]

00:36:50   big long dress with little balls all [TS]

00:36:53   around it and and and like and like a [TS]

00:36:55   sucker and a native Peter and then when [TS]

00:36:58   she's in the parliament she could you [TS]

00:37:00   know changing their cities and I guess [TS]

00:37:01   she walked in with something like a [TS]

00:37:03   plunger and once it would have been a [TS]

00:37:04   giveaway you like I just I just done [TS]

00:37:06   with me you know i'm not jail i'm not a [TS]

00:37:08   Dalek of a plumber is James Bond wears a [TS]

00:37:10   tuxedo for this very same reason it's [TS]

00:37:12   just a dream [TS]

00:37:14   alright okay so-so doctors helped more [TS]

00:37:17   plumbers that's a asylum of the daleks [TS]

00:37:19   so you know it's the Daleks I I i was [TS]

00:37:22   very happy to have dr. her back and I [TS]

00:37:24   had a fun time in my son was only mildly [TS]

00:37:26   frightened by the horrible deformed [TS]

00:37:30   galaxies that are down and that's been [TS]

00:37:33   that terrible place but a scale of one [TS]

00:37:35   to ten how frightening it wasn't 11 let [TS]

00:37:38   me tell you that because it you said 10 [TS]

00:37:41   12 10 and if the scale of one to ten [TS]

00:37:43   eleven doesn't make any sense kill this [TS]

00:37:46   but it's 11 because why why wouldn't you [TS]

00:37:48   just make 11 going to make ten louder [TS]

00:37:50   tenjune yeah exactly why wouldn't you [TS]

00:37:52   just make ten more scary than the whole [TS]

00:37:55   that don't look at that dollar only why [TS]

00:37:57   would you say 11 when 10 could just be [TS]

00:38:00   more scary [TS]

00:38:01   hi John knows what I'm talking about [TS]

00:38:04   what [TS]

00:38:05   that's another episode is it someday [TS]

00:38:10   ok 110% that somebody the spinal tap [TS]

00:38:12   episode of the incomparable will happen [TS]

00:38:14   ah before we go I wanted to mention the [TS]

00:38:17   hugo awards [TS]

00:38:19   yes we're giving away [TS]

00:38:21   we went on we didn't win one of those we [TS]

00:38:23   want everyone how many we want another [TS]

00:38:25   was even a fan cast thing [TS]

00:38:27   yeah thats 1 as jason points out by [TS]

00:38:29   professional yes it's like a winner the [TS]

00:38:31   winner of the talent we have a winner of [TS]

00:38:33   the best fancast award was a bunch of [TS]

00:38:35   professional science fiction writers who [TS]

00:38:37   have been nominated for you go so their [TS]

00:38:39   fan to change the name or your bet [TS]

00:38:42   they're not professional podcast [TS]

00:38:44   deliveries are not me all those ten guys [TS]

00:38:47   yeah existence of themselves very much [TS]

00:38:49   sure it's lovely it's lovely best novel [TS]

00:38:53   went to jail Waltons among others which [TS]

00:38:55   we did a podcast what we need to learn [TS]

00:38:58   to go podcast guest pressure love to [TS]

00:39:00   read you should read it it's really good [TS]

00:39:02   so good it's really good that was great [TS]

00:39:04   and i was very happy and Scott McNulty [TS]

00:39:07   who could not be with us [TS]

00:39:09   it joins me in saying a wasn't deadline [TS]

00:39:13   it with the book we really loved instead [TS]

00:39:16   it wasn't just the anti vote it was also [TS]

00:39:18   the vote for the one that we thought was [TS]

00:39:19   the best because like because I wasn't [TS]

00:39:21   watching you stream before the [TS]

00:39:23   unceremonious Lee cutting off the street [TS]

00:39:25   people which we convention but the i'm [TS]

00:39:27   watching the tweets and icy patch pic [TS]

00:39:28   hidden Wilson who's science fiction [TS]

00:39:30   editor of some renown start catching [TS]

00:39:33   about is like I really hate this I hate [TS]

00:39:35   these fans of events just is really [TS]

00:39:37   awful and I thought oh no they gave it [TS]

00:39:39   to grant and then it was complaining [TS]

00:39:41   about they were showing memorial footage [TS]

00:39:43   from the previous year he said people [TS]

00:39:44   have some people wanted loudly at [TS]

00:39:46   something and didn't for others and he [TS]

00:39:48   was absolutely appalled by it [TS]

00:39:50   yeah yeah people talent for the worst [TS]

00:39:55   um I think in Busytown finished second [TS]

00:39:58   by the way [TS]

00:39:59   yeah sorry yeah yeah dad yeah [TS]

00:40:03   iran iraq and second it was up against [TS]

00:40:06   other books that were not as good this [TS]

00:40:08   is why i stopped paying attention to the [TS]

00:40:10   awards for the most part yeah this year [TS]

00:40:13   did a good job though the man who bridge [TS]

00:40:15   the mist by kids johnson won best [TS]

00:40:17   novella and i love that story [TS]

00:40:20   great story and at one which may be very [TS]

00:40:22   happy [TS]

00:40:23   I know people that know kids they say [TS]

00:40:25   she is the best I didn't even know she [TS]

00:40:29   was a she but you know what that story [TS]

00:40:30   is the best so that's even better [TS]

00:40:33   good to hear that yeah [TS]

00:40:34   man who bridge the mist crazy really [TS]

00:40:37   good loved a lot and one so i was very [TS]

00:40:39   excited best novelette went to charlie [TS]

00:40:43   jane andrews who is the editor of [TS]

00:40:44   io9.com I and she wrote a story called [TS]

00:40:48   six months three days which was a fun [TS]

00:40:51   story about to precognitives who have a [TS]

00:40:55   relationship and they both know how it's [TS]

00:40:57   going to end but they cannot go through [TS]

00:41:00   it because they know that they have [TS]

00:41:02   their relationship for six months and [TS]

00:41:04   three days before it ends and it was [TS]

00:41:07   very funny and told them a little time [TS]

00:41:09   you want me I guess but that was really [TS]

00:41:11   good [TS]

00:41:12   the paper menagerie which is a fantastic [TS]

00:41:14   story the two great short stories can [TS]

00:41:16   lose the paper menagerie one and then [TS]

00:41:18   Lily you who won the award for best new [TS]

00:41:22   writer had a great story called the tart [TS]

00:41:24   cartographer wasps and anarchist bees [TS]

00:41:27   that was also those are my two favorite [TS]

00:41:28   short stories and both of those writers [TS]

00:41:30   walked off with an award so that made me [TS]

00:41:32   happy so they stoled they they walked [TS]

00:41:35   off and were not stopped so that I guess [TS]

00:41:38   they won [TS]

00:41:39   that's that's how I hope to her yeah and [TS]

00:41:41   then in the dramatic presentation of [TS]

00:41:43   awards the long-form award they decided [TS]

00:41:45   to submit game of thrones as a season in [TS]

00:41:48   the long-form category instead of his [TS]

00:41:50   individual episodes in the short-form [TS]

00:41:51   category which has been won by Doctor [TS]

00:41:53   Who for like the last five years [TS]

00:41:54   so-and-so game of thrones one the [TS]

00:41:57   long-form category for season one and [TS]

00:41:59   the neil gaiman episode the doctor's [TS]

00:42:02   wife of doctor who won the short-form [TS]

00:42:04   category which I believe came with the [TS]

00:42:06   revelation that he is currently writing [TS]

00:42:08   another episode he's writing another [TS]

00:42:09   episode yes yes third draft that's right [TS]

00:42:12   it's exciting that's the best draft that [TS]

00:42:14   is if it's gonna get worse first two [TS]

00:42:16   weren't so good but there is only the [TS]

00:42:18   third roughly 20,000 words just get it [TS]

00:42:20   down by 90 but yeah sure yeah and that [TS]

00:42:22   was the point of the show where the [TS]

00:42:23   ustream cut it off because they just [TS]

00:42:25   shown clip so yeah it's integrated [TS]

00:42:27   robots can turn a lot coming through [TS]

00:42:29   content robot scanning for violations of [TS]

00:42:32   copyright spotted the Doctor Who clips [TS]

00:42:34   authorized in fact of course by the BBC [TS]

00:42:37   to be shown because they were nominated [TS]

00:42:40   for an award you show the clips sonali [TS]

00:42:42   right has been violated [TS]

00:42:44   I like that it might all be well be [TS]

00:42:46   terminated yachts was that Monty I say [TS]

00:42:52   it might also have been the community [TS]

00:42:53   clip i wouldn't put NBC's robots [TS]

00:42:56   yeah it's true it could also be [TS]

00:42:57   surprised NBC's robots would be that [TS]

00:42:59   competent that's what ya surprised by [TS]

00:43:02   the very idea of robots watching all of [TS]

00:43:05   you stream and recognizing the copyright [TS]

00:43:08   well better than another for we haven't [TS]

00:43:11   had much to do you think well that's [TS]

00:43:14   what they do in the asylum of the daleks [TS]

00:43:15   are watching ustream when you know gonna [TS]

00:43:18   go [TS]

00:43:18   that explains everything that's why they [TS]

00:43:19   went mad for watching TV you're watching [TS]

00:43:24   please turn it off now [TS]

00:43:29   yes game show network is coming on g 4g [TS]

00:43:33   4g far anyway that I got to say about [TS]

00:43:37   the Hugo's other than yes it was a funny [TS]

00:43:40   moment from a technology perspective [TS]

00:43:41   when they were shut off their streams [TS]

00:43:44   shut hot because they posted copyrighted [TS]

00:43:46   clips [TS]

00:43:47   yeah i'm glad the great not let the [TS]

00:43:52   right novel one is all i can say yeah [TS]

00:43:54   yeah and i think the short story winners [TS]

00:43:56   were all really good too and and [TS]

00:43:58   although i don't vote neil gaiman [TS]

00:43:59   episode first I'd I didn't like it i [TS]

00:44:01   thought the girl who waited with a [TS]

00:44:03   little bit better but I i liked it so [TS]

00:44:04   yeah yeah alright that idea that the [TS]

00:44:09   last day i got one last thing okay upset [TS]

00:44:11   which is a love Rory throw interface [TS]

00:44:13   well I love you more I mean I waited two [TS]

00:44:15   thousand years how many times in your [TS]

00:44:18   face [TS]

00:44:18   how many times can you do that i mean [TS]

00:44:20   that that ends a lot of arguments i'm [TS]

00:44:22   guessing in that pond house [TS]

00:44:23   yeah you know over the weekend i want to [TS]

00:44:25   be divorced again i watch the last [TS]

00:44:27   couple episodes of friday night lights [TS]

00:44:29   over the weekend which is a great show i [TS]

00:44:31   loved it a lot and I put off watching [TS]

00:44:34   the last season because I didn't really [TS]

00:44:35   want to watch it and have it end but [TS]

00:44:37   there's a very similar thing in there [TS]

00:44:38   where to Tim Riggins has gone to jail [TS]

00:44:43   for his brother because brothers got a [TS]

00:44:46   kidney doesn't want even though his [TS]

00:44:48   brother committed this crime he [TS]

00:44:49   basically goes to jail for him take the [TS]

00:44:50   rap for it and and it was the very much [TS]

00:44:53   the same thing it's like yeah okay you [TS]

00:44:55   went to jail for me [TS]

00:44:56   how many times can you [TS]

00:44:57   put that over my head right it's again [TS]

00:44:59   okay you're Roman for 2,000 years I got [TS]

00:45:02   it [TS]

00:45:03   oh I got that but it's it's you know [TS]

00:45:05   that was 2,000 years ago [TS]

00:45:08   Let Go you with 2,000 meters I'm sterile [TS]

00:45:11   or even okay yeah you were put your [TS]

00:45:15   plastic i rebooted the entire universe [TS]

00:45:17   and everything in the universe is [TS]

00:45:19   because I me me [TS]

00:45:21   let's call it even okay let's call it [TS]

00:45:26   even [TS]

00:45:26   mr. Pond yeah I go somewhere and wait [TS]

00:45:29   two thousand four years for you get drop [TS]

00:45:31   it already [TS]

00:45:32   yeah that's it that would be the [TS]

00:45:34   solution dr. take me back 2,000 years [TS]

00:45:36   i'm gonna get this [TS]

00:45:37   let's just get this is enough yeah you [TS]

00:45:40   know she waited like 30 years of [TS]

00:45:41   something in the the one where she got [TS]

00:45:43   old [TS]

00:45:43   yeah didn't seem like that long after [TS]

00:45:45   that one that one doesn't exist anymore [TS]

00:45:48   now they wiped her out and she wasn't [TS]

00:45:50   made a plastic so she actually age she [TS]

00:45:52   was also kind of bitter [TS]

00:45:53   yeah she was that she was on the other [TS]

00:45:55   foot 98 worry didn't say anything about [TS]

00:45:57   that I with a few thousand years [TS]

00:45:59   30 whatever alright well thank you all [TS]

00:46:05   for being in this special exciting flash [TS]

00:46:07   podcast episode that i will not add it [TS]

00:46:09   very fun [TS]

00:46:10   yeah yeah it was good and will be back [TS]

00:46:13   and we'll try to do maybe a couple more [TS]

00:46:15   of these is the doctor who season goes [TS]

00:46:17   along us wait for the pirate episode [TS]

00:46:19   this season we go man [TS]

00:46:20   yes wait for another really really bad [TS]

00:46:22   episode so that we can yell about it [TS]

00:46:24   well it's always good that's always good [TS]

00:46:26   excited you know this was funny was not [TS]

00:46:28   it's the Daleks what can you do [TS]

00:46:31   I thought I thought they didn't about as [TS]

00:46:32   well as one could do with Daleks well [TS]

00:46:34   now we won't see the Daleks for another [TS]

00:46:36   year plus well until the 50th [TS]

00:46:38   anniversary we got going with now is [TS]

00:46:40   Steven Steven Moffat dollar dollar the [TS]

00:46:42   weeping angels right who were due to CNN [TS]

00:46:44   yeah like 40 min a few episodes they [TS]

00:46:46   went to the crack of time [TS]

00:46:48   oh yeah well like that will stop yeah [TS]

00:46:50   they'll always be back [TS]

00:46:53   good point they're not like a lost socks [TS]

00:46:54   at your dryer without the tiny why me [TS]

00:46:59   filtered AR don't blink when you open [TS]

00:47:01   the dryer [TS]

00:47:03   I never do you don't don't even blink at [TS]

00:47:05   the link and the lint trap i'm supposed [TS]

00:47:07   to look in the lint trap [TS]

00:47:09   oh it's I don't don't look don't look [TS]

00:47:12   don't look at the lint trap Monty yeah [TS]

00:47:16   alright uh so if my thanks to glen [TS]

00:47:19   fleischmann Thank You Monty Ashley hello [TS]

00:47:23   goodbye goodbye [TS]

00:47:25   affirmative I did Morgan you're very [TS]

00:47:28   well and John siracusa eggs Jason eggs [TS]

00:47:32   eggs eggs and to our own personal Dalek [TS]

00:47:36   Scott maegal tu brute who could not be [TS]

00:47:39   here because he's in the wilds of thanks [TS]

00:47:44   for listening to the incomparable [TS]

00:47:45   special flash podcast edition will be [TS]

00:47:49   back with another episode next week [TS]

00:47:50   goodbye [TS]