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109: Evil, Surfing Ronald McDonald

 

00:00:00   the incomparable podcast number 109 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/0">TS</a>]

00:00:11   September atlantique well welcome back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/11">TS</a>]

00:00:15   to the incomparable podcast and Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/15">TS</a>]

00:00:16   smell your host and I'm convening a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/16">TS</a>]

00:00:18   strange episode of our book club because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/18">TS</a>]

00:00:21   many of our usual book club participants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/21">TS</a>]

00:00:24   are not here when fleischmann didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/24">TS</a>]

00:00:28   read the book Glenn damn Warren didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/28">TS</a>]

00:00:32   read the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/32">TS</a>]

00:00:34   damn it Randy called well know John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/34">TS</a>]

00:00:36   siracusa a bit of a slow reader John [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/36">TS</a>]

00:00:39   siracusa here's who read the book of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/39">TS</a>]

00:00:42   course Scott McNulty read the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/42">TS</a>]

00:00:44   because he suggested the book and we do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/44">TS</a>]

00:00:47   well apparently not i was gonna say we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/47">TS</a>]

00:00:49   do what Scott says but apparently I do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/49">TS</a>]

00:00:51   what Scott says I read this book Scott [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/51">TS</a>]

00:00:54   thank you for being here with Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/54">TS</a>]

00:00:56   thank you for doing my bidding once [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/56">TS</a>]

00:00:58   again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/58">TS</a>]

00:00:58   yep that's why obey and strangely enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/58">TS</a>]

00:01:02   because we thought him actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/62">TS</a>]

00:01:05   illiterate Steve let's also read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/65">TS</a>]

00:01:08   book hi Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/68">TS</a>]

00:01:09   hello there how many how many books do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11   you read usually many are you are you an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/71">TS</a>]

00:01:15   avid reader that we just did and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/75">TS</a>]

00:01:16   just downplay it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/76">TS</a>]

00:01:17   this makes 1 i'm so the first book you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/77">TS</a>]

00:01:22   read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/82">TS</a>]

00:01:23   yeah it was it was a kind of rough start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/83">TS</a>]

00:01:26   but now I I read when I get the chance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/86">TS</a>]

00:01:29   but there's usually I usually find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/89">TS</a>]

00:01:31   myself with so much media at my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/91">TS</a>]

00:01:33   fingertips and so many other options to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/93">TS</a>]

00:01:36   fill my time that I tend to not do so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/96">TS</a>]

00:01:39   much reading unless I find myself say in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41   a restaurant by myself or somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/101">TS</a>]

00:01:43   actually have nothing better to do real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/103">TS</a>]

00:01:46   well you crap you travel so I would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/106">TS</a>]

00:01:47   imagine that I do that that happens that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/107">TS</a>]

00:01:50   you're in a recent so usually I i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/110">TS</a>]

00:01:52   books in fits and starts and if I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/112">TS</a>]

00:01:53   finish it in one trip there's about you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/113">TS</a>]

00:01:55   know maybe a month gap and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/115">TS</a>]

00:01:57   finished the book and forgotten by that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/117">TS</a>]

00:01:58   time everything that was in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/118">TS</a>]

00:02:00   half of the book and of course I read it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/120">TS</a>]

00:02:02   in like one hour to an hour and a half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04   it increments because that's how long it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/124">TS</a>]

00:02:08   takes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/128">TS</a>]

00:02:09   free meal when our meal when you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/129">TS</a>]

00:02:11   sitting and reading sound so that would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/131">TS</a>]

00:02:12   be complicated if you forgot about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/132">TS</a>]

00:02:14   book halfway through its a slow and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/134">TS</a>]

00:02:16   painful process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/136">TS</a>]

00:02:17   yeah yes this book this book is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/137">TS</a>]

00:02:19   strange example so we're talking about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/139">TS</a>]

00:02:21   our book selection for this episode is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/141">TS</a>]

00:02:23   cloud atlas a novel it's not the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/143">TS</a>]

00:02:26   atlas that's just like it's not you it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/146">TS</a>]

00:02:28   not though you're rich mix remix not the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/148">TS</a>]

00:02:31   cloud atlas its cloud atlas obvious lie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/151">TS</a>]

00:02:34   i know by british author david mitchell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/154">TS</a>]

00:02:37   who is not the same david mitchell who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/157">TS</a>]

00:02:40   is in the comedy team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/160">TS</a>]

00:02:42   mitchell and webb even though same name [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   both British not the same guy as far as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/164">TS</a>]

00:02:47   i can tell and this is from 2004 and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/167">TS</a>]

00:02:51   won some awards shortlisted for some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/171">TS</a>]

00:02:53   more awards but what's most interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/173">TS</a>]

00:02:54   about it perhaps in the in this yea year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/174">TS</a>]

00:02:58   2012 is that the Wachowskis and the guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/178">TS</a>]

00:03:04   who edited or who directed run lola run [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/184">TS</a>]

00:03:07   are collaborating on this blockbuster [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/187">TS</a>]

00:03:11   Hollywood although it's funded by German [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/191">TS</a>]

00:03:15   so for linear would I don't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/195">TS</a>]

00:03:18   blockbuster movie that's coming out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/198">TS</a>]

00:03:20   in October make the Wachowskis are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/200">TS</a>]

00:03:24   behind this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/204">TS</a>]

00:03:24   yeah and and Tom tight tight cover the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/204">TS</a>]

00:03:28   the run lola run guy so that when she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/208">TS</a>]

00:03:31   asks haven't ruined anything in awhile [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/211">TS</a>]

00:03:32   and they decided they decide they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/212">TS</a>]

00:03:34   gonna ruin this book in a great so stiff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/214">TS</a>]

00:03:37   so but we read it before that and as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/217">TS</a>]

00:03:39   Escott pointed out you want to read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/219">TS</a>]

00:03:41   book before you every character in it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/221">TS</a>]

00:03:44   just in your head is Tom Hanks just as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/224">TS</a>]

00:03:47   shield against the destruction that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49   undoubtedly be wrecked upon it by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/229">TS</a>]

00:03:50   film crew and reading the book i have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/230">TS</a>]

00:03:53   hard time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/233">TS</a>]

00:03:54   wha wrapping my head around how this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/234">TS</a>]

00:03:57   movie is going to work at all but yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/237">TS</a>]

00:04:00   yeah it's a strange it's a strange book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/240">TS</a>]

00:04:04   um so let's let's start there with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/244">TS</a>]

00:04:09   structure this book this book is is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   series of interconnected stories and yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/251">TS</a>]

00:04:15   let's fire off the soap spoiler horn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/255">TS</a>]

00:04:19   and we're going to talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/259">TS</a>]

00:04:20   contents of the book spoilers contents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/260">TS</a>]

00:04:23   of the book could be considered spoil it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/263">TS</a>]

00:04:25   it's a series of these inner inner [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/265">TS</a>]

00:04:27   walking stories right so there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/267">TS</a>]

00:04:29   a story about a guy in like 1850 who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/269">TS</a>]

00:04:32   on a ship in the Pacific Ocean and very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/272">TS</a>]

00:04:35   specific islands there's a story about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/275">TS</a>]

00:04:39   British composer who is in Belgium as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/279">TS</a>]

00:04:45   the a- ensis that I pronounce that sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/285">TS</a>]

00:04:50   sounds good why not he's the assistant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/290">TS</a>]

00:04:52   to a compete with heat finagles his way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/292">TS</a>]

00:04:55   into being an assistant to a famous [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/295">TS</a>]

00:04:57   composer inside that story is a story in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/297">TS</a>]

00:05:02   the nineteen seventies in a fictional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/302">TS</a>]

00:05:03   Southern California city about a plucky [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/303">TS</a>]

00:05:07   young journalist who is on the case of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/307">TS</a>]

00:05:09   corporate crime inside that story is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/309">TS</a>]

00:05:13   story about a UH a vanity press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/313">TS</a>]

00:05:18   publisher in England who is runs afoul [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/318">TS</a>]

00:05:22   of the family of one of his authors and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/322">TS</a>]

00:05:25   has to flee and he's accidentally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/325">TS</a>]

00:05:27   committed to an old age home by his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/327">TS</a>]

00:05:29   brother right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/329">TS</a>]

00:05:31   I'm trying to make sure I got all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/331">TS</a>]

00:05:32   these at inside that one is a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/332">TS</a>]

00:05:35   about a clone who is a genetically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/335">TS</a>]

00:05:40   engineered person who's been engineered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/340">TS</a>]

00:05:42   to basically be a waitress at a korean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/342">TS</a>]

00:05:44   mcdonalds except they put something in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/344">TS</a>]

00:05:47   her food that makes her fully aware and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/347">TS</a>]

00:05:51   smart instead of all of her other clones [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/351">TS</a>]

00:05:54   who are not particularly intelligent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/354">TS</a>]

00:05:57   because they've been engineered that way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/357">TS</a>]

00:05:59   to just be happy as servers and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/359">TS</a>]

00:06:02   inside that one at the core of this is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/362">TS</a>]

00:06:06   story about a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/366">TS</a>]

00:06:08   Zachary who tom hanks seriously no i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/368">TS</a>]

00:06:13   don't i know i know it's crazy i will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/373">TS</a>]

00:06:15   afterward I looked up which I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/375">TS</a>]

00:06:18   think so he's not playing every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/378">TS</a>]

00:06:19   characters playing half like half of and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/379">TS</a>]

00:06:21   Jim Broadbent i think is playing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/381">TS</a>]

00:06:22   her anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/382">TS</a>]

00:06:23   Zachary I was a resident of the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/383">TS</a>]

00:06:26   island of hawaii in a post [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/386">TS</a>]

00:06:29   apocalyptic civilization has completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/389">TS</a>]

00:06:32   crashed and there's a sort of chaos and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/392">TS</a>]

00:06:35   barbarism on the island and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/395">TS</a>]

00:06:38   visited by one of the last bastions of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/398">TS</a>]

00:06:40   civilization in the world there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/400">TS</a>]

00:06:41   visitor who comes and visits them and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/401">TS</a>]

00:06:44   these these seemingly unrelated stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/404">TS</a>]

00:06:47   are are chained together in this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/407">TS</a>]

00:06:51   and what stranger is they're chained [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/411">TS</a>]

00:06:52   together in this nesting configuration [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/412">TS</a>]

00:06:54   where you read the first half of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/414">TS</a>]

00:06:57   these stories going forward in time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/417">TS</a>]

00:06:59   then the last story you read the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/419">TS</a>]

00:07:01   thing and then it backs you out and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   read the second half of all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05   stories going backward all the way to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/425">TS</a>]

00:07:07   the beginning it is absolutely crazy it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/427">TS</a>]

00:07:10   is crazy she turns out is actually kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/430">TS</a>]

00:07:12   of a bad idea because the first couple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/432">TS</a>]

00:07:14   of segments are kind of slow going and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/434">TS</a>]

00:07:16   not quite as interesting as the middle [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/436">TS</a>]

00:07:18   segment so that you get to that the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/438">TS</a>]

00:07:20   two segments you get past the second the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/440">TS</a>]

00:07:22   recent at second half of the Luisa Rey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/442">TS</a>]

00:07:24   part and suddenly you're just like I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/444">TS</a>]

00:07:26   not sure everything went to tell what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/446">TS</a>]

00:07:28   about their to the new pocket of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30   islands special yeah so I i think that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/450">TS</a>]

00:07:33   having read the whole book I found it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/453">TS</a>]

00:07:36   fascinating that so there are these six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/456">TS</a>]

00:07:39   nested stories and they are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/459">TS</a>]

00:07:40   interconnected so the first story is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/460">TS</a>]

00:07:42   journal that the main character in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/462">TS</a>]

00:07:45   second story finds the first half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   historian has exactly and the second so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/467">TS</a>]

00:07:51   the main character in the second half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   the book is it the second story in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/473">TS</a>]

00:07:55   book i should say it's written as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/475">TS</a>]

00:07:57   series of letters and those letters are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/477">TS</a>]

00:08:00   to the character in the third story of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/480">TS</a>]

00:08:04   the book who is in this Luisa Rey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/484">TS</a>]

00:08:08   mystery which turns out to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/488">TS</a>]

00:08:12   manuscript yes that is submitted to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/492">TS</a>]

00:08:16   vanity press publisher the vanity press [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   publisher who have initial Cavendish who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/498">TS</a>]

00:08:21   becomes a star in a movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/501">TS</a>]

00:08:25   there's a movie based on his story based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/505">TS</a>]

00:08:27   on his story which is named for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/507">TS</a>]

00:08:29   clone yes which screen for the clone and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/509">TS</a>]

00:08:32   then the the post-apocalyptic one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/512">TS</a>]

00:08:34   somehow the clone I think becomes like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/514">TS</a>]

00:08:37   good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/517">TS</a>]

00:08:38   that the in the the clone stories told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   us her interrogation by sort of a record [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/520">TS</a>]

00:08:42   keeper and put on a hologram and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/522">TS</a>]

00:08:45   hologram is shown by the the black class [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/525">TS</a>]

00:08:48   representative of civilization visiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/528">TS</a>]

00:08:50   the Big Island of Hawaii [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/530">TS</a>]

00:08:52   the little hologram is shown to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/532">TS</a>]

00:08:54   people there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/534">TS</a>]

00:08:57   I mean wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/537">TS</a>]

00:09:01   right i mean you can't fault the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   author for being ambitious right it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/543">TS</a>]

00:09:06   it is a crazy chain of events rolled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/546">TS</a>]

00:09:08   into a novel and it's very specifically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10   called I at least on my kindle it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/550">TS</a>]

00:09:12   called cloud atlas colon a novel as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/552">TS</a>]

00:09:14   to remind you you are actually reading a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/554">TS</a>]

00:09:16   novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/556">TS</a>]

00:09:17   it's not just a short story collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/557">TS</a>]

00:09:19   that ends maddeningly in the middle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/559">TS</a>]

00:09:21   every story it's a novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/561">TS</a>]

00:09:23   yeah and and i think it's interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/563">TS</a>]

00:09:25   that so the six stories are written in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/565">TS</a>]

00:09:28   very different styles as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/568">TS</a>]

00:09:30   no you can't you don't get he doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   let you really rest at all because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/572">TS</a>]

00:09:35   keeps changing not only all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/575">TS</a>]

00:09:36   characters and storylines but how he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/576">TS</a>]

00:09:38   writing them as well the first the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41   one is written in the style of of of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43   pros of the mid-nineteenth century which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/583">TS</a>]

00:09:46   is to say nearly unreadable in it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/586">TS</a>]

00:09:49   style it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/589">TS</a>]

00:09:50   yeah it's a tough tough going first 50 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/590">TS</a>]

00:09:53   pages or so which is when I I suggested [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/593">TS</a>]

00:09:56   we read this book I i made sure to point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/596">TS</a>]

00:09:59   out to everyone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/599">TS</a>]

00:09:59   the first part is the most difficult I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/599">TS</a>]

00:10:03   think to really I gras which then makes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/603">TS</a>]

00:10:05   the last part the least satisfying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/605">TS</a>]

00:10:07   reason i think yes but I oddly enough I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/607">TS</a>]

00:10:11   I didn't think the first part i didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/611">TS</a>]

00:10:13   have that much trouble with the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/613">TS</a>]

00:10:14   part which sort of shocked me because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/614">TS</a>]

00:10:16   i recognized as i was reading it that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/616">TS</a>]

00:10:18   the language was a bit shall we say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/618">TS</a>]

00:10:20   Florida and a little stilted and and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/620">TS</a>]

00:10:24   a lot of archaic words were in use and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/624">TS</a>]

00:10:26   but I i was kind of impressed with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/626">TS</a>]

00:10:30   myself because i realized i was reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/630">TS</a>]

00:10:32   it hot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/632">TS</a>]

00:10:33   I know most of the school and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/633">TS</a>]

00:10:36   know I'd run across some mention of some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/636">TS</a>]

00:10:37   historical thing that happened and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/637">TS</a>]

00:10:39   just happened to be something that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/639">TS</a>]

00:10:40   randomly knew about so I think I kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/640">TS</a>]

00:10:43   locked into a greater appreciation of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/643">TS</a>]

00:10:45   that first portion i got a second part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/645">TS</a>]

00:10:47   and and because i guess i had trekked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/647">TS</a>]

00:10:49   through the first portion of it the sex [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/649">TS</a>]

00:10:51   and second half of it actually rolled [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/651">TS</a>]

00:10:53   even even quicker strangers like I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/653">TS</a>]

00:10:56   prime to myself and then having taken a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/656">TS</a>]

00:10:58   break and read through the easier stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/658">TS</a>]

00:10:59   in the middle i was ready to go back to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/659">TS</a>]

00:11:02   it and my mental muscle for that kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/662">TS</a>]

00:11:04   prose is the rest agree that's the great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/664">TS</a>]

00:11:07   cliff hanger where we discover that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/667">TS</a>]

00:11:10   the the protagonist of that section has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   been told that he has a brain worm that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/672">TS</a>]

00:11:15   can only be treated by his quack of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/675">TS</a>]

00:11:18   doctor by giving him cocaine as far as i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/678">TS</a>]

00:11:21   can tell here have some more cocaine you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/681">TS</a>]

00:11:25   know it works [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/685">TS</a>]

00:11:26   yeah yeah and then you left sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/686">TS</a>]

00:11:28   wondering is he going to die and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/688">TS</a>]

00:11:30   turns out that the book we discover in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/690">TS</a>]

00:11:33   the next section the book has been torn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/693">TS</a>]

00:11:35   in half and he doesn't know where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/695">TS</a>]

00:11:36   other half of the book is and only at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/696">TS</a>]

00:11:38   the end or do we discovered that it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/698">TS</a>]

00:11:40   didn't used to like prop up the bed so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/700">TS</a>]

00:11:43   that doesn't slant and he pulls it out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   in the wedge where it is and yeah how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/705">TS</a>]

00:11:49   lucky for us he happened to look under [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/709">TS</a>]

00:11:51   the bed and find that second half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/711">TS</a>]

00:11:53   yes it would have been a lopsided novel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/713">TS</a>]

00:11:56   if it lasts actually has found that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/716">TS</a>]

00:11:58   never yes different dr timothy or 10 who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/718">TS</a>]

00:12:01   is he writing to 6 minutes 26 minutes i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/721">TS</a>]

00:12:04   couldn't find the other part of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/724">TS</a>]

00:12:05   book I don't know what happened to that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/725">TS</a>]

00:12:08   fellow who had been given the cocaine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10   for the brain worm that anyway that life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/730">TS</a>]

00:12:13   is terrible goodbye help when you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/733">TS</a>]

00:12:14   got to the end of the first portion and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/734">TS</a>]

00:12:16   it just cut off in mid-sentence did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/736">TS</a>]

00:12:18   go looking to see if maybe you had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   misprint you get kindle the conversions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   right version CII was rolling around in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/742">TS</a>]

00:12:24   the back trying to find out of page 41 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/744">TS</a>]

00:12:26   ended up stuck in the wrong section of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/746">TS</a>]

00:12:28   the book i just made me laugh similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/748">TS</a>]

00:12:30   experience I just thought it was a crazy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/750">TS</a>]

00:12:32   stunt by the by the writer and then of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/752">TS</a>]

00:12:35   course in a second when when when the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/755">TS</a>]

00:12:37   character in the second section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/757">TS</a>]

00:12:39   discovers this and is infuriated by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/759">TS</a>]

00:12:41   fact that it ends in the middle of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/761">TS</a>]

00:12:43   side bad laughs again that's I think one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/763">TS</a>]

00:12:47   of my favorite things about this book is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/767">TS</a>]

00:12:49   that it's so self-conscious and it keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/769">TS</a>]

00:12:51   making references to itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/771">TS</a>]

00:12:52   oh yes like I i think in that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/772">TS</a>]

00:12:54   second section Frobisher actually says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/774">TS</a>]

00:12:57   the language doesn't ring true in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/777">TS</a>]

00:12:59   journal yes so like he's aware that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/779">TS</a>]

00:13:02   only partially researched what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   writing should sound like coming from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/784">TS</a>]

00:13:05   1850 he doesn't believe that that it may [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/785">TS</a>]

00:13:08   even not even be true right i mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/788">TS</a>]

00:13:11   there's a question throughout about all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/791">TS</a>]

00:13:13   I mean about accuracy because in the eye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/793">TS</a>]

00:13:18   in the section about uh saw me the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/798">TS</a>]

00:13:22   clone you know she's not seeing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/802">TS</a>]

00:13:25   reality of Timothy Cavendish's life and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/805">TS</a>]

00:13:28   his being committed to the home and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/808">TS</a>]

00:13:29   escaping in a wacky adventures sequence [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/809">TS</a>]

00:13:33   that will be perfect for the movie she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/813">TS</a>]

00:13:36   watching the movie about it right so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   it's it's not as if the reality is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   necessarily entirely collect connected [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   and they these stories i had had that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/822">TS</a>]

00:13:44   moment of wondering whether the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/824">TS</a>]

00:13:45   that we are looking at you know are on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/825">TS</a>]

00:13:48   one level we want to believe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/828">TS</a>]

00:13:49   they're all connected and we're watching [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/829">TS</a>]

00:13:50   in some ways like reincarnation of all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/830">TS</a>]

00:13:53   these people throughout history on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/833">TS</a>]

00:13:54   another level it sort of suggesting that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   we're watching a stack of all most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   unreliable narrators going so by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/838">TS</a>]

00:14:01   time we get to 22 last one I mean we've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/841">TS</a>]

00:14:05   gone through so many different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/845">TS</a>]

00:14:06   mediations you know hologram and movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/846">TS</a>]

00:14:09   based on a book and a novel based on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/849">TS</a>]

00:14:11   real events ? you know and then and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/851">TS</a>]

00:14:15   the letters and then this crazy journal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/855">TS</a>]

00:14:16   that you've gotta wonder whether this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/856">TS</a>]

00:14:18   all you know is that is any of this real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/858">TS</a>]

00:14:21   you know or or not it's crazy pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/861">TS</a>]

00:14:28   funny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/868">TS</a>]

00:14:28   look of course as the readers were aware [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30   that all these people are are coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/870">TS</a>]

00:14:32   from the pen of David Mitchell so I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/872">TS</a>]

00:14:34   thought it was very endearing that he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/874">TS</a>]

00:14:37   chose to head off his critics at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/877">TS</a>]

00:14:39   past by it openly stating that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/879">TS</a>]

00:14:41   language is wrong in the Ewing journal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/881">TS</a>]

00:14:43   and I Timothy Cavendish calls the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/883">TS</a>]

00:14:45   writing in the Luisa Rey book arts leaf [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/885">TS</a>]

00:14:47   parsley clever at one point right so of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/887">TS</a>]

00:14:50   course he's referring his own writing in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/890">TS</a>]

00:14:51   that section that's quite funny and he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/891">TS</a>]

00:14:54   even even at has an answer for you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/894">TS</a>]

00:14:58   that the the fact that you could [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00   reasonably say well that Timothy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   Cavender section is basically one flew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/902">TS</a>]

00:15:05   over the cuckoo's nest with an old guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/905">TS</a>]

00:15:06   right or the UH sonmi 451 section is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/906">TS</a>]

00:15:10   basically just every seventies dystopian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/910">TS</a>]

00:15:12   flicks right-click all mixed together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/912">TS</a>]

00:15:14   but then he goes through this this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/914">TS</a>]

00:15:17   long long but it goes through like half [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/917">TS</a>]

00:15:19   a paragraph saying that he says that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/919">TS</a>]

00:15:22   ghost of Sir Felix Finch wines but it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/922">TS</a>]

00:15:25   been done a hundred times before as if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/925">TS</a>]

00:15:27   there could be anything not done a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/927">TS</a>]

00:15:29   hundred thousand times between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/929">TS</a>]

00:15:30   Aristophanes and andrew void Webber as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/930">TS</a>]

00:15:33   if art is the what not the how so he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/933">TS</a>]

00:15:37   actually coming out and saying you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/937">TS</a>]

00:15:39   it's that it's the how here right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/939">TS</a>]

00:15:41   it doesn't really matter that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/941">TS</a>]

00:15:42   recycled 20 different stories from you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/942">TS</a>]

00:15:46   know from the past the point is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48   that we're getting there in interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/948">TS</a>]

00:15:51   and different way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/951">TS</a>]

00:15:51   yeah yeah I I've read a lot of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/951">TS</a>]

00:15:54   books in different styles and I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/954">TS</a>]

00:15:57   recall ever reading something that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/957">TS</a>]

00:15:59   as audacious is this as a trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/959">TS</a>]

00:16:02   connect these totally different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/962">TS</a>]

00:16:04   completely different genres completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/964">TS</a>]

00:16:06   different timeframes having them connect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/966">TS</a>]

00:16:08   in a bunch of different ways and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/968">TS</a>]

00:16:11   commenting on itself as it goes it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/971">TS</a>]

00:16:13   know it's a Scottish it have you did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/973">TS</a>]

00:16:18   this call to mind other things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/978">TS</a>]

00:16:19   you've read i know that you have booked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/979">TS</a>]

00:16:21   amnesia but I i do have a often have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/981">TS</a>]

00:16:25   booked amnesia but i've read so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   in the kind of the school of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/987">TS</a>]

00:16:31   postmodernism i suppose in that it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/991">TS</a>]

00:16:34   very cognizant of its own story telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/994">TS</a>]

00:16:38   and structure and it's a pastiche of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/998">TS</a>]

00:16:41   variety of different stories like Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1001">TS</a>]

00:16:43   was saying and so one of the ways that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1003">TS</a>]

00:16:45   you know there's this whole school of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1005">TS</a>]

00:16:47   thought literature that there's nothing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   new in under the Sun so you can just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:51   kind of take the already existing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1011">TS</a>]

00:16:53   components and reconfigure them and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1013">TS</a>]

00:16:56   only way to make art is to basically [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1016">TS</a>]

00:16:58   remix other things that people have done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1018">TS</a>]

00:16:59   so that is what I think that he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:02   trying to do here so i cannot think of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1022">TS</a>]

00:17:05   any particular novels that do it as far [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:09   as he has tried tried to take it whether [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1029">TS</a>]

00:17:13   and so that leads me two of my own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1033">TS</a>]

00:17:15   question for both of you so he is trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1035">TS</a>]

00:17:17   this we can agree that it's a very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1037">TS</a>]

00:17:19   ambitious novel and I wonder as both of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1039">TS</a>]

00:17:23   you as readers did it work for you or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1043">TS</a>]

00:17:25   did you think you were he was spending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:28   too much time with like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:30   technical wizardry and kind of trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1050">TS</a>]

00:17:33   make it work as opposed to telling a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:36   compelling story or six compelling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:38   stories about us you know uh I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1058">TS</a>]

00:17:41   they work to to varying degrees [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1061">TS</a>]

00:17:43   I actually felt like you know some of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:47   the stories i hope i thought were really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:49   excellently done and others i found less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1069">TS</a>]

00:17:52   compelling I mean I honestly found that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1072">TS</a>]

00:17:54   that that first story not particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:58   interesting it got there were there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1078">TS</a>]

00:18:00   some interesting moments i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1080">TS</a>]

00:18:01   second half was more interesting than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1081">TS</a>]

00:18:02   the first but I you know I really liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:07   the Luisa Rey section I'm I kind of got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1087">TS</a>]

00:18:12   into the the the composer story after a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:16   while and realizing i was reading a 20 i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1096">TS</a>]

00:18:19   almost like a Fitzgerald kind of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1099">TS</a>]

00:18:22   this is a miserable human being that i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:25   reading a story of and when I realized [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1105">TS</a>]

00:18:28   that I wasn't really supposed to like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1108">TS</a>]

00:18:29   him and he does a series of terrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:32   things and it reminded me a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   Sorrows of Young Harris did you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   yeah yeah i was very reminiscent that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:40   particularly in the second half when he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1120">TS</a>]

00:18:41   you know he meets his demise of his own [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:43   yes very romantic about the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1123">TS</a>]

00:18:46   and his oldest is a his epic dissing by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:49   the girl yes daughter of the composer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1129">TS</a>]

00:18:52   yeah yeah i do so i ended up when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1132">TS</a>]

00:18:54   realized what I was seeing there and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:56   almost like when I realized what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1136">TS</a>]

00:18:57   template was and it's in the template is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1137">TS</a>]

00:19:00   no I get it I I see what's going on here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   I you know but the loser a mystery that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:05   but you know breezy 70 is almost you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1145">TS</a>]

00:19:09   know it's almost like a I mean there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1149">TS</a>]

00:19:11   plenty of examples of that seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1151">TS</a>]

00:19:13   crime you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:14   plucky plucky journalist detective thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1154">TS</a>]

00:19:17   I that was really enjoyable that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   lot of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   the Cavendish thing was not it was ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:24   this on me section i really liked and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:28   the and the the Zachary section parts of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:31   it were good but I felt like it went on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1171">TS</a>]

00:19:33   too long it didn't get cut in half like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1173">TS</a>]

00:19:35   the others maybe that was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1175">TS</a>]

00:19:36   reasons why I felt like I sort of scene [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:37   apocalyptic I mean it was almost like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:40   something out of Paolo Bacigalupi except [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:43   not and I think not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1183">TS</a>]

00:19:44   not as good as that I i was reminded of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:48   Paolo Bacigalupi as i read that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:50   yeah yeah i mean it's it's post-op echo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1190">TS</a>]

00:19:53   about the apocalypse post-apocalyptic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1193">TS</a>]

00:19:55   thing right I gotta read some of his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1195">TS</a>]

00:19:58   books so that I just have the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1198">TS</a>]

00:20:00   opportunity to say is not a budget let's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:01   move on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1201">TS</a>]

00:20:02   yeah oh yeah but the loop electrical is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1202">TS</a>]

00:20:04   fun to say but you're gonna be even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1204">TS</a>]

00:20:05   Mitchell Mitchell david mitchell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:07   mitchell you so so I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1207">TS</a>]

00:20:10   Scott asked to answer your question uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1210">TS</a>]

00:20:12   you know I think it's a mixed bag i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1212">TS</a>]

00:20:14   think there's some stories that i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1214">TS</a>]

00:20:15   liked another stories that were were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   okay and once I realized with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:18   premise was I really was excited when I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:22   got to this on me story i was excited to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1222">TS</a>]

00:20:24   know that I had the rest of the Luisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1224">TS</a>]

00:20:27   Rey mystery coming up after I got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1227">TS</a>]

00:20:29   through Timothy Cavendish right it's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1229">TS</a>]

00:20:32   turns out the Timothy Cavendish and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:34   also a lot of fun because there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1234">TS</a>]

00:20:35   whole you know escape from the old age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:37   home plot that happens that's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1237">TS</a>]

00:20:41   i'm using to I mean I i should say we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1241">TS</a>]

00:20:44   can make the sound like a ponderous you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1244">TS</a>]

00:20:46   know just no fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1246">TS</a>]

00:20:48   that's very serious from many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:50   experimental postmodern themes and but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1250">TS</a>]

00:20:52   you know there's there's like a you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1252">TS</a>]

00:20:54   a car crash at a nuclear reactor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1254">TS</a>]

00:20:57   that's going to blow up and kill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1257">TS</a>]

00:20:58   everybody and there's like a old people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:01   escaped from the old age home by lying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1261">TS</a>]

00:21:03   and locking people in that in you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1263">TS</a>]

00:21:06   mean nurse ratched types and in rooms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:09   and I mean there's a lot of fun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:11   cookie stuff in here too it's not all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1271">TS</a>]

00:21:14   kind of no fun and and just work and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:17   think you can read it you can totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1277">TS</a>]

00:21:18   read this book without you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1278">TS</a>]

00:21:20   pondering all the different connections [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1280">TS</a>]

00:21:22   and just read it as kind of six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:23   interlocking stories that the author has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1283">TS</a>]

00:21:26   chosen to tell for some reason together [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1286">TS</a>]

00:21:28   we don't know what ponder about you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1288">TS</a>]

00:21:31   why the yes-mo music keeps coming up all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1291">TS</a>]

00:21:35   right you know why the number six keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1295">TS</a>]

00:21:36   going around or what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:38   which character is the supposedly the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1298">TS</a>]

00:21:40   same character throughout the different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1300">TS</a>]

00:21:42   stories you just read it for the fun as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1302">TS</a>]

00:21:44   long as you get past the first part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:46   didn't you you're good to go hard for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1306">TS</a>]

00:21:51   as it as a collection of short stories I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1311">TS</a>]

00:21:53   liked it a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:54   I actually I think I pretty much liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:57   every section 22 varying degrees but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1317">TS</a>]

00:21:59   didn't really find one that I just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1319">TS</a>]

00:22:01   absolutely hated but as far as the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1321">TS</a>]

00:22:06   interlocking thread and the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1326">TS</a>]

00:22:08   that the various characters and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1328">TS</a>]

00:22:10   souls you know drifting through time and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1330">TS</a>]

00:22:12   space like clouds that to me didn't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1332">TS</a>]

00:22:16   as well yeah I thought it was a lie i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:18   thought it was very clever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1338">TS</a>]

00:22:20   I mean you can't really read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:21   without coming away with that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1341">TS</a>]

00:22:22   extremely clever and it was neat the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:25   it all fit together and i enjoyed you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1345">TS</a>]

00:22:27   know trying to pick out which character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:28   was which but when I got to the end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:31   is as I got closer and closer to the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:33   and I was taking off the second half of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1353">TS</a>]

00:22:34   these stories i kept thinking well at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:36   some point the purpose for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1356">TS</a>]

00:22:38   character being the same throughout all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1358">TS</a>]

00:22:40   these times is going to become clear and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   there's going to be some big revelation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44   ah and when I got to the end it turned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:47   out that the only thing i could really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1367">TS</a>]

00:22:49   gather in the last couple of pages was i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:52   just logged through a whole lot of text [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1372">TS</a>]

00:22:54   for what basically amounts to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56   excellent to each other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:57   I mean today at the great revelation is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1377">TS</a>]

00:23:00   the great revelation is that Adam Ewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1380">TS</a>]

00:23:02   decides that he's going to become a nap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1382">TS</a>]

00:23:04   and abolitionist and of course with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:06   themes throughout of you know of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1386">TS</a>]

00:23:08   eliminating variables and right but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:14   know so what they're saying it to right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:18   we're all deeply and we're going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1398">TS</a>]

00:23:20   here again and again and so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1400">TS</a>]

00:23:21   shouldn't enslave other people man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1401">TS</a>]

00:23:25   right but you know it was it was a neat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1405">TS</a>]

00:23:27   way to link the stories together i'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1407">TS</a>]

00:23:29   sure it really was that much better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   having been linked other than you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:34   the sort of experience of having seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1414">TS</a>]

00:23:36   him do that and kind of that was pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1416">TS</a>]

00:23:37   cool what you did there but I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1417">TS</a>]

00:23:39   think it really improved the stories in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:41   any great way because maybe I'm just too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1421">TS</a>]

00:23:44   dense to to really catch the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1424">TS</a>]

00:23:46   overarching themes here but you have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1426">TS</a>]

00:23:48   me it was it almost don't want it when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:51   curry because it wasn't that bad but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1431">TS</a>]

00:23:53   little bit of that yeah i think it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55   it was on the the border you could see [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:59   wang curry from where it was blackery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1439">TS</a>]

00:24:03   was visible in the distance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1443">TS</a>]

00:24:05   exactly it was it was a well done i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1445">TS</a>]

00:24:08   think if if if David Mitchell were not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1448">TS</a>]

00:24:10   as good a writer as he was as he is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1450">TS</a>]

00:24:14   cause he's not dead as far as i know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1454">TS</a>]

00:24:16   this book would be awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1456">TS</a>]

00:24:18   I i think it is i I really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1458">TS</a>]

00:24:22   enjoyed it and I like the mostly because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1462">TS</a>]

00:24:24   I like books and authors who are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1464">TS</a>]

00:24:26   conscious of the fact that they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1466">TS</a>]

00:24:28   writing a book and I like I wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1468">TS</a>]

00:24:31   english major so I like slightly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:33   pretentious kinds of that uh huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1473">TS</a>]

00:24:35   thanks and you know you can you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:37   imagine a lot of papers being written [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1477">TS</a>]

00:24:40   about the cloud atlas and the various [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1480">TS</a>]

00:24:42   linking between all the stories and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1482">TS</a>]

00:24:45   the characters are and who they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1485">TS</a>]

00:24:47   represent and you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1487">TS</a>]

00:24:49   what the theme throughout each story are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1489">TS</a>]

00:24:51   so kind of spoke to my frustrated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1491">TS</a>]

00:24:54   English majors yeah I i agree you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:57   the artifice is is visible and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1497">TS</a>]

00:25:01   sure all of it I mean I so I love the TV [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1501">TS</a>]

00:25:04   show Lost right and there are things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1504">TS</a>]

00:25:05   about lost that were brilliant and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   things about loss that were painful and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   that's what i was thinking about i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:10   reading this book is like some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1510">TS</a>]

00:25:11   connections they make because they're in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1511">TS</a>]

00:25:13   lost you always have these people these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:14   crosses where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1514">TS</a>]

00:25:16   turns out they knew somebody who knew [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1516">TS</a>]

00:25:18   that the other character when they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:20   before they got to the island right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1520">TS</a>]

00:25:22   in this there there's that same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1522">TS</a>]

00:25:23   for these coincidences or are they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1523">TS</a>]

00:25:26   and some of them i actually really loved [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1526">TS</a>]

00:25:29   and others i just went yeah okay you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1529">TS</a>]

00:25:32   know you yet you gotta do it that's what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:34   this book is so you're gonna make the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1534">TS</a>]

00:25:36   connection but like the the isle of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   lewis array trying to find the cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:42   atlas record that was composed by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1542">TS</a>]

00:25:45   guy in the previous story that was very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:47   lost I i love had them that music was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1547">TS</a>]

00:25:51   playing in the that's the music plays in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:54   the cafe of son--my oh you know I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:58   think I even noticed that when she also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1558">TS</a>]

00:26:00   passes by the prophetess as she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1560">TS</a>]

00:26:02   heading towards six Smith's boat moored [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1562">TS</a>]

00:26:05   in the harbor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1565">TS</a>]

00:26:06   yes the adam ewing ship so I mean that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:08   all that stuff is cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1568">TS</a>]

00:26:09   yeah I mean I so I like that and I like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:11   the I like to the the sextet and of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1571">TS</a>]

00:26:14   course the sex Ted is described as being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1574">TS</a>]

00:26:16   these six different pieces for six [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1576">TS</a>]

00:26:18   different instruments that are then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1578">TS</a>]

00:26:19   played in these interlocking things in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   that they started and then made and he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:24   describing the structure of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1584">TS</a>]

00:26:25   right at rightlook is the Cloud Atlas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1585">TS</a>]

00:26:27   sextet that it and then and and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1587">TS</a>]

00:26:30   characters say I this music sounds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:31   familiar to me and that's the whole idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1591">TS</a>]

00:26:33   is that the music and the stories are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1593">TS</a>]

00:26:34   repeating in these different timeframes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:36   and you know i like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1596">TS</a>]

00:26:38   yeah the bi have a comment shaped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:41   birthmark felt started to feel rather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1601">TS</a>]

00:26:43   obligatory like yeah we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:46   resurrected later another buddies man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1606">TS</a>]

00:26:48   that was that one didn't work so well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:51   for me I think I'll understand although [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1611">TS</a>]

00:26:53   at least there wasn't one of those like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:54   we were together 50 years ago and I love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1614">TS</a>]

00:26:58   remains intact now in new bodies and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00   know that there's none of that which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   good but still so some of it works for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:05   me I guess is what I'm saying and some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:07   of it I was like yeah ok this is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1627">TS</a>]

00:27:08   you're trying to do and it didn't give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1628">TS</a>]

00:27:10   me that that that kind of chill as when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1630">TS</a>]

00:27:12   Luisa Rey goes into the record store and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1632">TS</a>]

00:27:15   and the music is playing right i mean a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:17   lot of that stuff actually to me would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1637">TS</a>]

00:27:18   have been almost unbearable except for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   the fact that he clearly has good humor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   about the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:23   and some of the other mentions of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1643">TS</a>]

00:27:25   sort of self-conscious references the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:26   previous chapters but also in that part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:29   where where he's where the sextet is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1649">TS</a>]

00:27:33   being described a nice piece talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1653">TS</a>]

00:27:34   about the structure of it is identical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:36   to the structure of the book he actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1656">TS</a>]

00:27:38   says revolutionary or gimmicky can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1658">TS</a>]

00:27:41   know until it's finished and by then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1661">TS</a>]

00:27:42   it'll be too late [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:45   yeah it turns out in the end that yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:47   was giving you but it because he noted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1667">TS</a>]

00:27:50   that it's i'm i'm mad i'm inclined to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1670">TS</a>]

00:27:52   give them a little bit of a path is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1672">TS</a>]

00:27:54   enjoyable to listen to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1674">TS</a>]

00:27:55   although the gimmick i have to say i am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1675">TS</a>]

00:27:58   highlighted more passages from this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:00   that I've done any book that i've ever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1680">TS</a>]

00:28:02   read on the kindle I'm that must count [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04   for something so well no i mean because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   i kept the scene was it because you were [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:09   searching for meaning and you kept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1689">TS</a>]

00:28:10   thinking you would be able to go back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1690">TS</a>]

00:28:11   and piece it all together know it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:12   really more that this is one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1692">TS</a>]

00:28:14   books where you can see the author being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:16   clever and you want two models down so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1696">TS</a>]

00:28:18   that you can sail ever let later [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20   here are some clever things so so I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:23   looking at my notes now I was amused by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:25   when in the totalitarian future they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1705">TS</a>]

00:28:29   make reference to two optimists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1709">TS</a>]

00:28:31   translated from the late english or well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:33   and Huxley the implication being that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1713">TS</a>]

00:28:36   this core pakka see that is South Korea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:39   in the future or well and Huxley are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1719">TS</a>]

00:28:42   considered great optimist that they they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:44   predicted that while the society that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1724">TS</a>]

00:28:47   live in would come to pass when most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1727">TS</a>]

00:28:49   people didn't like sci-fi all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1729">TS</a>]

00:28:54   apocalyptic sci-fi authors being a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1734">TS</a>]

00:28:55   applauded by the people who manage the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:58   apocalypse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1738">TS</a>]

00:28:59   thank you you got us right yeah that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1739">TS</a>]

00:29:01   as well as lots of cloud imagery the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:05   cloud imagery maybe roll my eyes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1745">TS</a>]

00:29:06   little bit i watch the clouds and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:10   athlete before triac oh yeah it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1750">TS</a>]

00:29:12   meaning the books called cloud atlas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1752">TS</a>]

00:29:14   there's mean issues clouds on every page [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:16   gradually moving to the center of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1756">TS</a>]

00:29:17   book you cannot even get that did you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:19   know I'll see in the in the text version [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1759">TS</a>]

00:29:22   maybe this is the extra bonus for for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1762">TS</a>]

00:29:24   buying the alt text version is in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:27   adam ewing section there are clouds on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:29   the far side of each page so you know to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1769">TS</a>]

00:29:32   the left of the left facing pages and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34   the right of the right pages and then in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:36   each section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1776">TS</a>]

00:29:37   those clouds gradually move towards the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   center for out that's grace and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:42   after the solutions crossing section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1782">TS</a>]

00:29:44   they either have crossed and removing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1784">TS</a>]

00:29:46   the other way or they're going back in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1786">TS</a>]

00:29:48   the other direction it's hard to say oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1788">TS</a>]

00:29:49   so you know there you go wow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   little more little more pretentious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:54   mystery so we talk about commenting on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:58   things also I you know as many stories i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1798">TS</a>]

00:30:00   think that Scott loves this is also a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1800">TS</a>]

00:30:02   story about storytelling and about how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1802">TS</a>]

00:30:06   you know what's reality in which story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1806">TS</a>]

00:30:10   is the real story and though the line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1810">TS</a>]

00:30:12   that i highlighted that I really liked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1812">TS</a>]

00:30:13   is when Sonny is snuck into this movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1813">TS</a>]

00:30:18   theater because movies or as they call [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1818">TS</a>]

00:30:20   them disney's have basically been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:21   outlawed because it's on meez period all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1821">TS</a>]

00:30:24   of the proper all of our proper noun [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1824">TS</a>]

00:30:26   brand names have replaced the regular [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1826">TS</a>]

00:30:29   nouns and brand names everything is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1829">TS</a>]

00:30:31   brand name now by the generic word is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:34   that what we consider a brand name and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:36   they're no longer capitalized they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1836">TS</a>]

00:30:38   not a proper nouns know they're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:39   regular the word for that Disney is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1839">TS</a>]

00:30:41   movie is now at disney hilarious thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1841">TS</a>]

00:30:43   is that it that includes all movies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:45   including apparently tentacle porn yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1845">TS</a>]

00:30:47   that's a distance is a sequence which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   suggests what is it that the the student [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:52   that Scott charge of some sami 451 is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1852">TS</a>]

00:30:55   watching believe the term is octopus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1855">TS</a>]

00:30:57   rapine his skirt yeah yeah she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1857">TS</a>]

00:31:01   horrified i think that that's the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:03   disney she oversees right and it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   disney yeah yeah so this is the part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:07   that I wouldn't be that that a that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1867">TS</a>]

00:31:09   think I mean this is what he's he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1869">TS</a>]

00:31:12   getting at this is other than be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1872">TS</a>]

00:31:13   excellent to each other i think this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1873">TS</a>]

00:31:15   this is really what he's getting out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1875">TS</a>]

00:31:16   which is she's watching this giants road [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   the screen lit by sunlight capture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:20   through a lens when your grandfather's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1880">TS</a>]

00:31:21   grandfather was kicking in his room time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:24   is the speed at which the past decays [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:26   but disney's enable a prefect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1886">TS</a>]

00:31:27   resurrection those since fallen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   buildings those long eroded faces your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:31   present not we is the true illusion they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1891">TS</a>]

00:31:35   seem to say so you know that there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   this throughout in all these sections [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39   there's this idea of what is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:42   characters in our conversations about so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:43   what is real is the future real and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1903">TS</a>]

00:31:46   waiting to happen or is it not real you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1906">TS</a>]

00:31:48   know is the past what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1908">TS</a>]

00:31:50   what's real and the future isn't there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1910">TS</a>]

00:31:51   a whole conversation about how there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:54   virtual pass and virtual futures and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   then I don't blame you one but you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:59   never tell which one it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:00   so there's a lot of that I like that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1920">TS</a>]

00:32:02   thought that was really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:03   because the beauty of that is that's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1923">TS</a>]

00:32:04   guy on the plane strap with c4 and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1924">TS</a>]

00:32:06   after having right he thought he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:08   exploded he figures it all out and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1928">TS</a>]

00:32:10   the plane blows up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1930">TS</a>]

00:32:11   it's sort of like the young girl in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:13   cafe and rickmansworth who comes up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1933">TS</a>]

00:32:15   the solution to everybody be nice yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1935">TS</a>]

00:32:17   they're just before the Earth's blown up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1937">TS</a>]

00:32:19   by the Vogon to hear ya [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1939">TS</a>]

00:32:20   and then it also in that section uh with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:23   some me it's it's kind of it's very sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:27   because all these clones are are made so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1947">TS</a>]

00:32:30   that they can be servers and they are in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32   life to register and they worked for 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:35   years and they work for 12 years and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1955">TS</a>]

00:32:37   they worship whatever the papasan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1957">TS</a>]

00:32:40   papasan copy icon and so he's like an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1960">TS</a>]

00:32:43   evil ronald mcdonald is how i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:45   surfing ronald mcdonald he kept me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1965">TS</a>]

00:32:47   making me think of a beard papa the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:50   cream puffs free huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:51   I but i assume that is not they'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:54   probably not please I would hope so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1974">TS</a>]

00:32:57   because after 12 years there they get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:58   go to Hawaii to retire but Hawaii is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1978">TS</a>]

00:33:01   actually a boat that's been converted [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:03   into a huge killing floor in there they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1983">TS</a>]

00:33:05   execute them and and butchery and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   turn them into protein matter that goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:09   back into the pop song factory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1989">TS</a>]

00:33:11   yeah and so they could serve their the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1991">TS</a>]

00:33:13   themselves basically I'm to their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1993">TS</a>]

00:33:14   customers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1994">TS</a>]

00:33:15   yeah that's very sad and it's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1995">TS</a>]

00:33:17   playing with the their perception of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   reality they think they happily go into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:21   this this killing floor because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2001">TS</a>]

00:33:23   think oh I'm boarding a plane to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2003">TS</a>]

00:33:24   Hawaii so i can retire because I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2004">TS</a>]

00:33:27   heard it through this you know 20 hours [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2007">TS</a>]

00:33:29   a day of grueling work and eating my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:31   soap or whatever it is the right because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2011">TS</a>]

00:33:33   they the the clones have been engineered [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   to not eat human food so they have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:37   eat this soap stuff and if they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2017">TS</a>]

00:33:39   get it they shut down and they die and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2019">TS</a>]

00:33:41   so it's there it's in everyone of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:43   stories there's oppression and there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2023">TS</a>]

00:33:44   somebody who's extracting this method of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:46   control over somebody who's weaker and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2026">TS</a>]

00:33:48   then with the with the clones it's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2028">TS</a>]

00:33:50   soap that that without the soap even [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52   even sewn me the the fully functional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:55   intelligent one she still has to eat so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   that's all she can eat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:59   it's crazy papasan green is fabric and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2039">TS</a>]

00:34:02   yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:03   whatever the the thing right in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2043">TS</a>]

00:34:06   world is that the only the servers who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:09   don't know would be the ones who care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   because the customers they wouldn't care [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:12   now they don't they treat the servers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2052">TS</a>]

00:34:14   like their animals anyway so it wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:17   matter to them if they were eating their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2057">TS</a>]

00:34:19   protein or not who cares prey and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2059">TS</a>]

00:34:21   predators is another big subject and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2061">TS</a>]

00:34:23   I've got a highlighted true intellectual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:26   courage is to dispense with these fig [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2066">TS</a>]

00:34:28   leaves and admit all people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2068">TS</a>]

00:34:29   predatory but white predators with our [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:31   deadly duet of disease Dustin firearms [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2071">TS</a>]

00:34:33   are examples of productivity par [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2073">TS</a>]

00:34:35   excellence and what of it this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37   quote the quack doctor who actually is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:39   just a pro who preys on the on the on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2079">TS</a>]

00:34:43   the the the guy on the on the ship and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2083">TS</a>]

00:34:46   he observes all this racism and all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2086">TS</a>]

00:34:49   these other horrible things that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:52   happened to the to the the moriori which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2092">TS</a>]

00:34:55   of the Pacific Islanders that are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2095">TS</a>]

00:34:56   destroyed by the Mallory Islanders and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:58   the and then the white men are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2098">TS</a>]

00:35:01   destroying the civilizations and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2101">TS</a>]

00:35:03   guy is preying on on the interviewing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:06   yeah Adam Ewing right so he's preying on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2106">TS</a>]

00:35:08   adam ewing but he has this moment of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2108">TS</a>]

00:35:10   clarity that really spells out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2110">TS</a>]

00:35:12   last section of this book what is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2112">TS</a>]

00:35:14   happening in all of these things in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2114">TS</a>]

00:35:15   book and he's got it it's the Guns Germs [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   and Steel thing it's like you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19   everybody's predator predator here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:22   you guys are saying how the white men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:23   are bringing civilization to everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2123">TS</a>]

00:35:25   else here but that's not that's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2125">TS</a>]

00:35:26   what's happening at all you know this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   just people and you're praying too and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:31   he's got this very clear vision that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:35   right right it's unfortunately this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2135">TS</a>]

00:35:36   awful person who's done these awful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:38   things as he's leaving this guy for dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:41   is saying this that's something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2141">TS</a>]

00:35:44   completely clear and that we've seen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:45   happening all the way into the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2145">TS</a>]

00:35:47   sort of but that that there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:49   problem that I had with that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2149">TS</a>]

00:35:50   thread was that little the whole thread [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:52   through time is that there's not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2152">TS</a>]

00:35:54   a lot of consistency and I would have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:56   expected when I sat down and thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2156">TS</a>]

00:35:57   okay well let's let's see here Adam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2157">TS</a>]

00:36:00   Ewing at the end or the beginning as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2160">TS</a>]

00:36:02   were decides that he's going to be an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2162">TS</a>]

00:36:04   abolitionist so all of the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2164">TS</a>]

00:36:06   characters that are him should also be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2166">TS</a>]

00:36:08   you know Crusaders against slavery or or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2168">TS</a>]

00:36:11   predatory practices or whatever [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2171">TS</a>]

00:36:13   and yet the next guy is more or less a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2173">TS</a>]

00:36:15   self-absorbed dirtbag who sponges off of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2175">TS</a>]

00:36:19   the composer's you know book collection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2179">TS</a>]

00:36:21   right Bob you know an end has gambling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2181">TS</a>]

00:36:25   debts and all this other stuff and more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2185">TS</a>]

00:36:27   or less dies and ignominy and then cool [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2187">TS</a>]

00:36:30   Luisa Rey kinda fits that mold but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:32   Cavendish is more or less and nobody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:34   right eye is on me is again a bit of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2194">TS</a>]

00:36:38   freedom fighter and then Zachary yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:42   but it's that's not him it's a OS the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44   woman Aaron is your interesting is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:46   incarnation in that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2206">TS</a>]

00:36:47   yeah and she fits the mold but so you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:50   know I I kept looking for different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2210">TS</a>]

00:36:52   places where there were clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:55   similarities between all six characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   and I couldn't find one and since it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2217">TS</a>]

00:37:01   alternating if you if you look at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:04   six stories right the first guy is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2224">TS</a>]

00:37:06   crusader the second guy is a jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2226">TS</a>]

00:37:10   the right Louisa raise a crusader Tim [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2230">TS</a>]

00:37:12   Cavendish is basically a jerk and Sony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2232">TS</a>]

00:37:15   is a crusader and then the last one I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:17   guess is a crusader for sure but she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2237">TS</a>]

00:37:18   the death the middle right right right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:20   you'd expect her to go Crusader to jerk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22   the Crusader well she is she is visiting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:24   the natives right that's true and trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2244">TS</a>]

00:37:27   to save sort of trying to save you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:30   civilization and all that so we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2250">TS</a>]

00:37:32   trying to save our own civilization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2252">TS</a>]

00:37:33   socially yeah she's doing tested in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:36   right technology that she thinks is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2256">TS</a>]

00:37:37   hidden up in that the up at the top of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:40   Mauna Kea yeah yeah so so one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2260">TS</a>]

00:37:42   things I like about about that line I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2262">TS</a>]

00:37:45   gave earlier the of about the all people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2265">TS</a>]

00:37:47   are predatory is that it's followed up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2267">TS</a>]

00:37:49   by an observation that is a purely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2269">TS</a>]

00:37:53   predatory world will consume itself said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2273">TS</a>]

00:37:57   in 1850 by our first and last character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2277">TS</a>]

00:38:00   and that that was much more resonant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:05   having seen it happen right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2285">TS</a>]

00:38:07   having us literally walked through all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2287">TS</a>]

00:38:09   the way to the future and seen the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2289">TS</a>]

00:38:12   purely predatory world completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:14   consumed itself to the point that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2294">TS</a>]

00:38:16   civilization is completely destroyed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:17   that was something I thought was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2297">TS</a>]

00:38:19   effective about the story he was trying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2299">TS</a>]

00:38:21   to tell and the way he told it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2301">TS</a>]

00:38:23   he literally walked us to the end of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2303">TS</a>]

00:38:25   time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2305">TS</a>]

00:38:26   and then brought us back to something we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2306">TS</a>]

00:38:29   would consider more reality because it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2309">TS</a>]

00:38:32   locked in the past to make that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   observation of like that you know now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:36   how do you think about this story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2316">TS</a>]

00:38:37   knowing where everything ends up which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39   is there's no civilization and it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   savagery and it's pretty bleak too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:43   because even having destroyed the planet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2323">TS</a>]

00:38:46   there's still predatory mr. they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2326">TS</a>]

00:38:49   you still gotta come on don't be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:50   betraying on the weaker right and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   got that interesting parallel between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:53   the kona and the valley dwellers I guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2333">TS</a>]

00:38:56   they are and the moriori and the Madame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2336">TS</a>]

00:38:59   Mallory right it's this again you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   they've got the people that refuse to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:03   defend themselves right and who got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2343">TS</a>]

00:39:05   there a little culture and they've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:06   the little place where they make all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2346">TS</a>]

00:39:07   drawings down that nobody knows about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2347">TS</a>]

00:39:08   right there killed off by or in slavery [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:13   as it were insulated what happens that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:15   what happens to people who are good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2355">TS</a>]

00:39:17   that's right well i'm depressed now but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:21   i did i did as as as you're coming back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:23   around from the last story I i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2363">TS</a>]

00:39:27   enjoyed those arrows that he keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:29   pointing backward in the story so in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2369">TS</a>]

00:39:32   what does it mean uh in a lisaraye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:36   section there's a the the corporation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:39   that runs the power plant talks about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2379">TS</a>]

00:39:42   how it's our country's rightful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2382">TS</a>]

00:39:44   corporate Empire the corporation's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:47   future some things since like right uh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   yeah I guess it is that isn't that it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:52   turns out so not so good i really love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2392">TS</a>]

00:39:54   that I i mean i'd like to talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56   loser a section for a moment just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:57   because it's great she's this she's this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2397">TS</a>]

00:40:00   journalist at this really poor poorly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2400">TS</a>]

00:40:05   thought of gossipy rag in what's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2405">TS</a>]

00:40:10   name of the z-plane us your best way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12   miss your bus which is a it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:15   Sunnydale in buffy the vampire slayer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2415">TS</a>]

00:40:17   it's a southern california city that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2417">TS</a>]

00:40:19   doesn't exist but is near Los Angeles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2419">TS</a>]

00:40:22   it's sort of like a fake Santa Barbara [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2422">TS</a>]

00:40:24   kinda I guess I don't know but she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2424">TS</a>]

00:40:28   about where i put it yeah so she's she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   she gets the she onto the trail of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:34   company that's building this giant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2434">TS</a>]

00:40:35   nuclear power plant along the coast and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2435">TS</a>]

00:40:37   it turns out that there in with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2437">TS</a>]

00:40:39   kind of military industrial complex and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:43   they're gonna generate all these nuclear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2443">TS</a>]

00:40:46   by products that the government once and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:49   the it's unsafe and it's gonna because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:51   it's the seventies and it's a very Three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:53   Mile Island kind of story it's unsafe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2453">TS</a>]

00:40:54   and it's gonna kill millions of people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2454">TS</a>]

00:40:55   in southern california if if it gets [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:58   built and and the the corporation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2458">TS</a>]

00:41:01   doesn't want anybody to know this and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03   then people are rubbed out by evil you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:06   know security guys who work for the CEO [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:09   and the chairman of the board and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:12   and she's you know her dad was a cop and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2472">TS</a>]

00:41:15   he died but he saved other cops before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2475">TS</a>]

00:41:18   he got shot in the eye and mean it felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:21   almost I don't know it feels almost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:24   Elmore Leonard additional hey was I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2484">TS</a>]

00:41:27   love the I love that whole seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:30   crime not she's not a detective she's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2490">TS</a>]

00:41:33   amateur detective reporter type and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:37   love that I love that whole story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39   they were nice people you meet who then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:40   blow up and are killed horribly by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2500">TS</a>]

00:41:44   murderous assassins and you know as it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:47   has good stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2507">TS</a>]

00:41:48   the life of lucasfilm yeah and assassins [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2508">TS</a>]

00:41:50   really if you're going to be an assassin [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2510">TS</a>]

00:41:51   you should be murderous otherwise you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   shouldn't screw you're not a very good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:55   assassin anyway I really that was my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2515">TS</a>]

00:41:56   favorite dead i like you don't know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:58   you guys thought or if you have other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2518">TS</a>]

00:41:59   favorite favorite uh bits but that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2519">TS</a>]

00:42:01   the one that I like the best night I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:03   thought that was a really fun character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2523">TS</a>]

00:42:05   I felt the reefs Luisa Rey was a the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2525">TS</a>]

00:42:08   most memorable character in the book for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2528">TS</a>]

00:42:09   me I like your co-workers to the clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:13   i can almost picture them with their you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:15   know they're brown and orange silk shirt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2535">TS</a>]

00:42:18   okay and that gigantic afros sideburns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2538">TS</a>]

00:42:23   out the year is just ahead of the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:26   thing about nicely seventies vibed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2546">TS</a>]

00:42:28   you have the old you know old older guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2548">TS</a>]

00:42:30   who makes all sorts of off-color jokes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2550">TS</a>]

00:42:32   and doesn't believe that this girl can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2552">TS</a>]

00:42:34   write a story and it turns out in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2554">TS</a>]

00:42:36   end that he actually has a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2556">TS</a>]

00:42:37   respect for her and all you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2557">TS</a>]

00:42:40   mhm i was i I just I thought that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2560">TS</a>]

00:42:43   great and I like that whole you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2563">TS</a>]

00:42:45   that's the the other thing about as you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2565">TS</a>]

00:42:47   mentioned Jason but the corporation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2567">TS</a>]

00:42:49   having all this power and you know she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2569">TS</a>]

00:42:50   working at this kind of this gossip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2570">TS</a>]

00:42:53   magazine and she gets this great story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2573">TS</a>]

00:42:55   and she wants to her editors like well I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2575">TS</a>]

00:42:57   don't think you should you know right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2577">TS</a>]

00:42:58   about it because you know cares about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2578">TS</a>]

00:43:00   nuclear regulations and unless it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2580">TS</a>]

00:43:03   going to blow up and they're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:04   fall out and that'll be good and that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2584">TS</a>]

00:43:05   all we'll talk about and he lets her go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2585">TS</a>]

00:43:08   and you know figure out what's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:11   because she's plucky i guess and then it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2591">TS</a>]

00:43:14   turns out that the the they figure out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2594">TS</a>]

00:43:16   the corporation figures out what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2596">TS</a>]

00:43:17   happening and then they buy the magazine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2597">TS</a>]

00:43:18   so that she can hands publishers to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:22   attic fire her and they and they say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2602">TS</a>]

00:43:24   will buy the magazine and everybody can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:26   stay and keep the jobs except it's for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2606">TS</a>]

00:43:29   losers say that very subtle blown at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:33   not at all a lot of what i like in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2613">TS</a>]

00:43:37   section is how everybody is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2617">TS</a>]

00:43:38   backstabber more or less [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:40   I mean it turns out that every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2620">TS</a>]

00:43:41   person except maybe one of the the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:45   the protesters the activists it's is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47   stabbing somebody in the back or getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:49   rich on somebody else and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2629">TS</a>]

00:43:50   corporation is not a monolithic evil [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2630">TS</a>]

00:43:52   corporation it's a series of evil people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2632">TS</a>]

00:43:54   who are all equal to one another as well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2634">TS</a>]

00:43:56   as to the general public right there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2636">TS</a>]

00:43:58   just happened to be in the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2638">TS</a>]

00:44:00   corporate yeah i mean even by the time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2640">TS</a>]

00:44:01   the corporation is taken down there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2641">TS</a>]

00:44:03   not a whole lot of it left to take down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2643">TS</a>]

00:44:04   to the upper management has been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:07   dispatched by other members of the upper [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:08   management you generally don't have a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2648">TS</a>]

00:44:10   lot of stand-up guys in the in the big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2650">TS</a>]

00:44:11   evil corporation evil nuclear power [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:13   corporation that's gonna poison all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2653">TS</a>]

00:44:15   Southern California mostly they're jerks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2655">TS</a>]

00:44:17   that's why they don't work out because I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2657">TS</a>]

00:44:19   just can't be evil people can't work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:21   together from our evil plan that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2661">TS</a>]

00:44:22   exactly right they see you know they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2662">TS</a>]

00:44:24   probably would have succeeded had it not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2664">TS</a>]

00:44:25   been for the Predators preying on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:27   other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2667">TS</a>]

00:44:29   oh so in some ways I guess that whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2669">TS</a>]

00:44:32   prey predator relationship sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2672">TS</a>]

00:44:33   works out well that's that's excellent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2673">TS</a>]

00:44:36   you could be an English major to Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2676">TS</a>]

00:44:38   look at that what what goat what story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2678">TS</a>]

00:44:40   did you like I like the Orson of sonmi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2680">TS</a>]

00:44:43   40 yeah 451 where there's an obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:47   reference [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49   yeah i just i i really liked the way it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:51   sort of gradually unfolded I mean each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2691">TS</a>]

00:44:54   of each of the story just because of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:55   way they were set up sort of dropping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:57   you into whatever world you were in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2697">TS</a>]

00:45:00   first maybe 56 pages you you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:03   trying to get your bearings and figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:05   out what the hell's going on here where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:06   are we and i really like the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:08   slow way that unfolded with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2708">TS</a>]

00:45:10   interview back and forth with the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2710">TS</a>]

00:45:12   archivist and you know even though a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2712">TS</a>]

00:45:16   of the sort of classic dystopian tropes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:22   were in place they're just the fact that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:24   you know you got a little bit at a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2724">TS</a>]

00:45:26   you know what are the fabrications what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:28   is this soap business and it it got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2728">TS</a>]

00:45:31   increasingly disturbing farther and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:35   went and at just being fed a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2735">TS</a>]

00:45:37   at a time it really it it almost felt [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2737">TS</a>]

00:45:39   like a really good horror story where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2739">TS</a>]

00:45:43   you know that things are getting worse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:44   and worse as you go and get your you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2744">TS</a>]

00:45:46   have to see how it all turns out and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:49   then you have to say that I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:53   obviously the guys writing is is pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:55   superb throughout I mean just that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2755">TS</a>]

00:45:56   john r exercises that he he takes on in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2756">TS</a>]

00:45:59   each different section and the way he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2759">TS</a>]

00:46:01   rises is just generally amusing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:03   particularly in that section it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2763">TS</a>]

00:46:05   kind of amazing you already mentioned [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2765">TS</a>]

00:46:07   the the sony and forward an icon and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2767">TS</a>]

00:46:11   nike being basically so fundamental that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2771">TS</a>]

00:46:13   they no longer warrant capitalization [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   yeah a car is afford but there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:18   of other stuff that he you know justjust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:20   spelling yeah he says a lot about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2780">TS</a>]

00:46:22   nature of this the dystopian that they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2782">TS</a>]

00:46:24   live in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2784">TS</a>]

00:46:25   I got for whatever reason they've words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2785">TS</a>]

00:46:29   that start with B X they just thrown [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:32   away II know and they seem to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2792">TS</a>]

00:46:34   tossed GH out as well and my guess is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:37   that just because it's inefficient right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:39   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2799">TS</a>]

00:46:40   there's really no need for that useless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:41   junk yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:42   although there are there are a few words [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2802">TS</a>]

00:46:43   here and there that maintain the GH so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2803">TS</a>]

00:46:45   that that's not completely throughout [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2805">TS</a>]

00:46:48   but i just thought that was kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2808">TS</a>]

00:46:50   interesting and then no similar the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:52   corporation's losing their their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:55   capitalization they mention aids at one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2815">TS</a>]

00:46:58   point which has been cured and now it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2818">TS</a>]

00:47:01   too has lost its ominous capital letters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:02   it's just aids all lowercase [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2822">TS</a>]

00:47:04   so I thought that the language in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2824">TS</a>]

00:47:08   was particularly interesting as well one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2828">TS</a>]

00:47:10   of the things that i liked about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2830">TS</a>]

00:47:12   that maybe Scott likes to is that seeing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2832">TS</a>]

00:47:16   somebody who is a literary novelist take [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2836">TS</a>]

00:47:20   these sci-fi tropes take sci-fi stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2840">TS</a>]

00:47:25   and embed them in a work like this I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:28   feel um legitimizes the genre a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:32   bit it gives gives it it's a it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2852">TS</a>]

00:47:34   talented author saying i can tell a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2854">TS</a>]

00:47:38   story like this too and he tells a bunch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   right he's got an apocalypse story and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:41   he's got a future story and he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2861">TS</a>]

00:47:43   past or and he's got a in the seventies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2863">TS</a>]

00:47:45   detective story but but there's part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:48   a to that i like because it's it's I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50   feel like it's going to expose these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:51   concepts to people who might not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2871">TS</a>]

00:47:53   otherwise be exposed to a story like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2873">TS</a>]

00:47:55   this and the Sonny story is a really he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2875">TS</a>]

00:47:57   did a good job yeah I didn't feel like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2877">TS</a>]

00:47:59   it was a you know you know mainstream [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2879">TS</a>]

00:48:03   models she doesn't really understand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2883">TS</a>]

00:48:04   sci-fi but decided to try their hand at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:06   it to class it up a little bit doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2886">TS</a>]

00:48:08   feel like that at all to me it feels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:09   like he you know he he knows what kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2889">TS</a>]

00:48:12   of story you want to tell him that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2892">TS</a>]

00:48:13   Shauna and he does a good job of it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2893">TS</a>]

00:48:15   you know I like that too and he clearly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:17   doesn't care that he's recycling Logan's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2897">TS</a>]

00:48:19   Run and soybean and any number of other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2899">TS</a>]

00:48:21   no I you know existing stories recycling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:25   Soylent Green oh the irony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2905">TS</a>]

00:48:27   so in green is a movie about people i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2907">TS</a>]

00:48:33   also like that he does go into any real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:36   detail about what happened to the dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2916">TS</a>]

00:48:39   zones outside of Korea but that that all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2919">TS</a>]

00:48:42   apparently needs that needs to be said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2922">TS</a>]

00:48:44   about our sorry continent is he makes a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:47   fleeting reference to boardman meth eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2927">TS</a>]

00:48:49   American boatpeople solution yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:53   you can only imagine what that is it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2933">TS</a>]

00:48:56   can't possibly be good but it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2936">TS</a>]

00:48:57   kinda funny where we are now both people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2937">TS</a>]

00:49:00   hope you die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:01   presumably we have the few remaining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2941">TS</a>]

00:49:03   survivors landed in Korea and presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:06   dispatched yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2946">TS</a>]

00:49:09   yeah it's never never good when your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:11   book person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2951">TS</a>]

00:49:12   yeah I I enjoyed that nitrogen as you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:15   talking about the science-fiction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2955">TS</a>]

00:49:17   elements of this as i was reading this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2957">TS</a>]

00:49:19   book i was thinking you know this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:21   is really even though all the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2961">TS</a>]

00:49:24   are not set in the future it is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2964">TS</a>]

00:49:26   science fiction book because he's using [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2966">TS</a>]

00:49:28   these themes and weaving together these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2968">TS</a>]

00:49:31   characters in this character just keeps [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:33   coming back and back and these are as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2973">TS</a>]

00:49:35   clear science fiction theme yes I and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2975">TS</a>]

00:49:39   the publisher would never market this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2979">TS</a>]

00:49:42   book as a science fiction book because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2982">TS</a>]

00:49:44   it is too literary for that they don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2984">TS</a>]

00:49:46   want to that's currently being made into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2986">TS</a>]

00:49:48   a major motion picture with Tom Hanks so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2988">TS</a>]

00:49:50   yeah not science fiction but with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:52   bicycle shops keys right who are exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2992">TS</a>]

00:49:54   moves on her directories so exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:56   movies are very different than then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2996">TS</a>]

00:49:58   books and you know the marketing of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/2998">TS</a>]

00:50:00   two else is a mainstream movie genre [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:03   everybody watches sci-fi movies but not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3003">TS</a>]

00:50:05   everybody reads sci-fi novels right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:08   if you mark this a sci-fi unless you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3008">TS</a>]

00:50:10   you know even actually somebody like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3010">TS</a>]

00:50:12   Michael Chabon i mean he he he he won [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3012">TS</a>]

00:50:16   the Pulitzer Prize right but it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:18   written many John robotics but even then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3018">TS</a>]

00:50:21   it's like what some people are like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3021">TS</a>]

00:50:22   what's wrong with you Michael why are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:24   you not writing you writing silly things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3024">TS</a>]

00:50:26   about you know monsters and superheroes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:30   and things and well that's what he wants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32   to write about so so they this is one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:34   the secrets I don't tell anybody it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3034">TS</a>]

00:50:36   sci-fi kind of that was actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3036">TS</a>]

00:50:38   really a complimentary quote from shape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3038">TS</a>]

00:50:40   on the back of this but yes telling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3040">TS</a>]

00:50:42   isn't it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3042">TS</a>]

00:50:43   thatthat's I I saw that and I hope that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3043">TS</a>]

00:50:46   was perfect because it is that it's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   that kind of feeling he's he's a better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   writer than David Mitchell but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:52   doesn't that feel it's somebody who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3052">TS</a>]

00:50:54   extremely talented as a writer and is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3054">TS</a>]

00:50:55   going to go ahead and play with sci-fi [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3055">TS</a>]

00:50:58   ideas and doesn't really care if that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:02   going to bother the literary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:04   intelligentsia who are they what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3064">TS</a>]

00:51:06   clones in the future no no we can't have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:09   you ever read any other Mitchell besides [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3069">TS</a>]

00:51:11   this I know this is the only mention [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3071">TS</a>]

00:51:13   that i have read III uh it makes me want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3073">TS</a>]

00:51:16   to read more of his work but I have so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3076">TS</a>]

00:51:18   many other things and reading if you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   get the sense that up and I guess this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:23   will be obvious in the in the movie that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3083">TS</a>]

00:51:25   that there are multiple characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:27   repeating here and the one that made me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:31   laugh is that in the the second story i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:35   believe there is a there is a doctor who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3095">TS</a>]

00:51:38   is creepy and we've just seen the creepy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:40   guy who's pretending to be a doctor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3100">TS</a>]

00:51:42   then very next story there's a dr. Egret [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3102">TS</a>]

00:51:44   who says I've never met a quack who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46   didn't suspect of plotting to do me and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   as expensively as he could contrive was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:50   like well yeah actually that it just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3110">TS</a>]

00:51:52   happens [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:53   I yeah but is that is that actually a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3113">TS</a>]

00:51:56   recurring character or dismissal just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3116">TS</a>]

00:51:57   hate doctors [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:58   uh-huh uh-huh hmm it's a commentary on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3118">TS</a>]

00:52:01   the night it's you get that you get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3121">TS</a>]

00:52:04   little sense that it that but it but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3124">TS</a>]

00:52:06   it's it's it's a little bit less obvious [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   when when as opposed to in the movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   when it's like why it's Halle Berry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:12   again haha yeah yeah I the only instance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3132">TS</a>]

00:52:18   of that I even noticed was where I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3138">TS</a>]

00:52:21   it's a bill smoke is about the dispatch [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:24   Luisa Rey on the on the six minutes boat [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3144">TS</a>]

00:52:26   and out what does he say he said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3146">TS</a>]

00:52:31   something along the lines of you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3151">TS</a>]

00:52:33   always die this noisy what do you what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3153">TS</a>]

00:52:36   do you mean always or something along [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:38   those lines together it is this death [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3158">TS</a>]

00:52:39   always make you so verbose ah and Louisa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3159">TS</a>]

00:52:42   says what do you mean always like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:44   there's some significance to that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3164">TS</a>]

00:52:45   move so it's yeah so presumably bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3165">TS</a>]

00:52:50   smoke exists in the other stories as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:52   well and some i mean this this reads to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3172">TS</a>]

00:52:55   me like a book that i would probably get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   a lot more out of the fight a second [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3177">TS</a>]

00:52:59   time like there's they're probably some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3179">TS</a>]

00:53:01   bits in the first half of that first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3181">TS</a>]

00:53:03   chapter that point to a lot of clues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3183">TS</a>]

00:53:05   here and there that I completely missed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:07   on the first time through although i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3187">TS</a>]

00:53:08   kinda looks like a time man i kinda like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3188">TS</a>]

00:53:10   that it's it's less it didn't feel part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3190">TS</a>]

00:53:15   of it didn't feel obvious right i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:16   remember becoming shaped birthmark and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3196">TS</a>]

00:53:18   all that it's very obvious part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3198">TS</a>]

00:53:19   didn't I didn't feel like oh yes now I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3199">TS</a>]

00:53:22   know who each of our three or four [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3202">TS</a>]

00:53:24   recurring characters in this time frame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3204">TS</a>]

00:53:26   i didn't have that sense and i was happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:28   I was grateful for that i like the idea [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3208">TS</a>]

00:53:30   that there's some of these people are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:32   recurring and that's fine but it he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3212">TS</a>]

00:53:34   never spell spelled it out at least that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3214">TS</a>]

00:53:37   I could tell I was grateful I really was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:40   that that that would have made my eyes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3220">TS</a>]

00:53:41   roll back into my head yeah it was the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3221">TS</a>]

00:53:43   world connected we go through this life [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45   together again and again I I didn't I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47   just did didn't want this book to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:49   that it wasn't that would've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3229">TS</a>]

00:53:51   thoroughly that looks sucked it would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:53   have been as like you know the character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3233">TS</a>]

00:53:55   had to live in every story or something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57   I think it's an Aston conceit though if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3237">TS</a>]

00:53:59   this is a situation that sort of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3239">TS</a>]

00:54:02   soul being reincarnated repeatedly that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:04   perhaps souls can take a break from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3244">TS</a>]

00:54:06   actual terrestrial life and live in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:09   book for a while because presumably [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3249">TS</a>]

00:54:14   that's what has happened when Luisa Rey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3254">TS</a>]

00:54:16   is written by Hillary hush no other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3256">TS</a>]

00:54:20   particular reason why this character [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:21   would suddenly yeah birthmark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3261">TS</a>]

00:54:23   yeah that's true that weird well and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:27   Timothy Cavendish is alive is old enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3267">TS</a>]

00:54:31   that he's alive when when Luisa Rey [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:34   would have been alive but Louis sorry we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:36   didn't wasn't real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3276">TS</a>]

00:54:38   presumably but was just the character in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3278">TS</a>]

00:54:40   the book well it's not certain that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:42   he is in fact that character because he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3282">TS</a>]

00:54:46   does he makes mention of having a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:47   birthmark yes there's no one no one has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3287">TS</a>]

00:54:49   ever made notice of it being a comet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3289">TS</a>]

00:54:50   somebody called Tim bows turd as Chicago [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:53   but ya never told him look like a comet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3293">TS</a>]

00:54:56   yeah but that's one that's one of those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3296">TS</a>]

00:54:57   really nice suggestions that that maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3297">TS</a>]

00:54:59   you know with what we're seeing is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3299">TS</a>]

00:55:02   connection that these characters have is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3302">TS</a>]

00:55:03   that they're in this book together and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:05   not necessarily that they're in some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3305">TS</a>]

00:55:07   fictional world reincarnating into one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3307">TS</a>]

00:55:09   another because in Cavendish's world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3309">TS</a>]

00:55:12   Louis raise a character in a book not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3312">TS</a>]

00:55:15   person because if she had been a person [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:17   he would have been alive at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3317">TS</a>]

00:55:18   time that she was alive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:20   that's true he would probably remember [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:21   this Giants can yes about the nuclear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:24   power plant exactly people blown up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3324">TS</a>]

00:55:27   right so that that adds a whole other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3327">TS</a>]

00:55:30   layer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3330">TS</a>]

00:55:33   you think about this book be more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3333">TS</a>]

00:55:34   confusing if he's interested it's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3334">TS</a>]

00:55:36   and that's that's that's the problem for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:38   me i mean i really liked the individual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:39   stories i like the writing i like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3339">TS</a>]

00:55:41   cleverness it would have been so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3341">TS</a>]

00:55:44   more if there had been some sort of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3344">TS</a>]

00:55:46   thread that I could have picked up and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3346">TS</a>]

00:55:48   you know it's just it's frustrating that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3348">TS</a>]

00:55:51   there wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:52   maybe a bit more of a hint i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3352">TS</a>]

00:55:53   probably go back and reread the book if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3353">TS</a>]

00:55:55   I had enough of an indication that i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3355">TS</a>]

00:55:57   just sort of missing something but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3357">TS</a>]

00:56:00   felt like when I got to the end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3360">TS</a>]

00:56:02   things didn't really add up and there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:03   wasn't really any kind of a hint that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:06   maybe I was just missing something that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:07   now oh well here we go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3367">TS</a>]

00:56:10   yeah did a little off coast write this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12   thing huh yeah I don't think that he has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:17   an author is really interested in kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:19   of and I think this is good is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:20   interested in kind of holding your hand [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3380">TS</a>]

00:56:22   through and kind of spelling out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:23   whole thing there's a difference between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3383">TS</a>]

00:56:24   holding your hand and just not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:27   having a point well I think he has a ps2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:30   I'm gonna get it is i don't think that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3390">TS</a>]

00:56:32   there is a strong kind of a way that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:36   can decode whatever it is like there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3396">TS</a>]

00:56:38   no hints to some like there's no pivotal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3398">TS</a>]

00:56:41   scene where it's like a hot it all comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3401">TS</a>]

00:56:43   to gaol it all makes sense right now i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3403">TS</a>]

00:56:46   want to draw me a map but at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3406">TS</a>]

00:56:48   time he's got to do a little of the work [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3408">TS</a>]

00:56:50   in coming up with the story it's not for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3410">TS</a>]

00:56:52   me to make up the story based on here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3412">TS</a>]

00:56:54   it'sit's series of vignettes the tie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:57   together only marginally I think he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3417">TS</a>]

00:57:00   wants you to kind of draw all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3420">TS</a>]

00:57:02   connections because he casually mentions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:04   similar things in each of the stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3424">TS</a>]

00:57:05   and you know it just as you're reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3425">TS</a>]

00:57:07   it I think you're just supposed to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3427">TS</a>]

00:57:08   notice one or you know two of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3428">TS</a>]

00:57:11   and not all of them i imagine unless you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:14   read it more than once and just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:16   get that kind of general you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3436">TS</a>]

00:57:19   everybody's connected kind of thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3439">TS</a>]

00:57:20   without him having to be having have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3440">TS</a>]

00:57:23   say like jason said like whoa [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3443">TS</a>]

00:57:25   we're all connected yeah we're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   clouds in the cloud atlas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:29   yeah that's cool man no having if there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3449">TS</a>]

00:57:32   is something in rock man at the end when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3452">TS</a>]

00:57:34   Adam Ewing becomes an abolitionist right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3454">TS</a>]

00:57:37   i mean that this is his moment to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:38   and he sort of does he said he used to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3458">TS</a>]

00:57:41   say not slavery is bad but to say you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3461">TS</a>]

00:57:45   know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:46   stronger going to press the weekend you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:48   need to end and that's bad and you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3468">TS</a>]

00:57:51   to do something about it because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3471">TS</a>]

00:57:53   the law of the jungle and this is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:55   this goes is to the complete destruction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3475">TS</a>]

00:57:56   of society and it's not just about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:58   slavery although slavery as part of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3478">TS</a>]

00:58:00   but it's about you know what he's saying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3480">TS</a>]

00:58:01   is it's the this is corporate structure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3481">TS</a>]

00:58:05   that's out of control in nineteen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:06   nineteen seventies and the court bokra [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3486">TS</a>]

00:58:08   see of korea in the 21st century and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3488">TS</a>]

00:58:14   you know that's that's sort of one of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3494">TS</a>]

00:58:15   the things that he's saying here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3495">TS</a>]

00:58:17   that's fine I that seems like a fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3497">TS</a>]

00:58:19   straightforward straightforward thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3499">TS</a>]

00:58:21   but uh the end I you know in the end i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:25   liked it i didn't love it i'm glad i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3505">TS</a>]

00:58:29   read it because I I i enjoyed the ride [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3509">TS</a>]

00:58:31   of not really knowing what the heck I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3511">TS</a>]

00:58:33   was gonna get next I'm and my wife my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3513">TS</a>]

00:58:36   wife said oh how'd you like it my said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3516">TS</a>]

00:58:38   it was it was it was strange it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:42   strange book and but you know by I rip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3522">TS</a>]

00:58:46   through it i read it other than the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3526">TS</a>]

00:58:48   first chapter then it will speed it up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:50   and it was like yeah okay now that now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3530">TS</a>]

00:58:53   that we're out of Adam Ewing I'm ready [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3533">TS</a>]

00:58:54   to go yeah but the problem with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3534">TS</a>]

00:58:57   payoff of you know p be cool to be good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3537">TS</a>]

00:58:59   to one another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3539">TS</a>]

00:59:00   don't be 2x yeah exactly is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:03   world just clouds man we're all clouds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3543">TS</a>]

00:59:05   in the sky and and even with the clouds [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3545">TS</a>]

00:59:07   evaporate man they come back there yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:11   well I just didn't think we consider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3551">TS</a>]

00:59:13   this is a comet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3553">TS</a>]

00:59:15   yeah so the doctor and the past of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3555">TS</a>]

00:59:19   book are already set so even so the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3559">TS</a>]

00:59:23   person farthest in the past becomes an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   abolitionist at the end of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:26   right but it doesn't change the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3566">TS</a>]

00:59:28   that the future is complete crap anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:30   and everybody since I just he's just one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3570">TS</a>]

00:59:32   man or one entity you know he's sickly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3572">TS</a>]

00:59:36   looking ed I think the point maybe is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:38   you know that point we all did that then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3578">TS</a>]

00:59:41   maybe it would make a difference but if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3581">TS</a>]

00:59:42   just one dude does then you know we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:44   all screwed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:45   I guess that's true [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3585">TS</a>]

00:59:47   so basically screwed it is a message [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3587">TS</a>]

00:59:50   book yeah more or less but i would say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:54   that I almost loved the book i came real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3594">TS</a>]

00:59:57   close i really liked like i said i like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:59   this store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   this store [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   he's loved the writing style and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:02   were occasionally there'd be these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3602">TS</a>]

01:00:03   little sections where just he would whip [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:06   out with like two three paragraphs of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3606">TS</a>]

01:00:07   just really beautiful sentiments that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3607">TS</a>]

01:00:11   they coming almost out of nowhere and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3611">TS</a>]

01:00:12   then he would move on to the rest of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3612">TS</a>]

01:00:14   story and I thought that was fairly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3614">TS</a>]

01:00:16   interesting like that whole section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:17   where you know the guys on the plane and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3617">TS</a>]

01:00:18   he comes up with the past in the future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   and while that is some pretty heavy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:21   stuff i SAT there for a while trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3621">TS</a>]

01:00:23   work that out and you know it was it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3623">TS</a>]

01:00:26   a fun book to read and i like that a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:29   whole lot more before before I got to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3629">TS</a>]

01:00:31   the end and relax that it wasn't gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3631">TS</a>]

01:00:33   pay off that well but in the end yeah i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:36   would say that I a borderline loved it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:39   and wish I could say that I i loved it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3639">TS</a>]

01:00:42   without any reservation but I sadly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3642">TS</a>]

01:00:44   cannot the journey is its own reward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:47   this reservation i'm glad i read it I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3647">TS</a>]

01:00:50   glad I me too and i would i would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3650">TS</a>]

01:00:51   recommend it to an adventurous reader [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:53   who somebody who appreciates the you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3653">TS</a>]

01:00:56   know you'll make the connections and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3656">TS</a>]

01:00:58   this different stories are interlocked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:00   but they're very different genres and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3660">TS</a>]

01:01:01   somebody who really loves that stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:04   I'm not going to recommend my mom read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:06   it you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3666">TS</a>]

01:01:08   my mom's not that adventurous she's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3668">TS</a>]

01:01:10   reader but she's not that is interest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3670">TS</a>]

01:01:12   but if somebody who loves seeing these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:15   kind of books that are about books and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:16   that are interconnected and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3676">TS</a>]

01:01:18   self-referential and all that that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3678">TS</a>]

01:01:20   they would enjoy this book my mom would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3680">TS</a>]

01:01:22   like to read the with probably enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3682">TS</a>]

01:01:25   reading Luisa Rey mysteries novels right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3685">TS</a>]

01:01:28   yeah I wasn't where I want to be honest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30   with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:31   so what I actually but they were pulpy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   but great fun it was great loved it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:36   yep so if you do read the book and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3696">TS</a>]

01:01:38   you figure out what the point is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3698">TS</a>]

01:01:40   please drop us a line I think you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:43   already got to be excellent to each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3703">TS</a>]

01:01:45   other occupied what I can't be it you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3705">TS</a>]

01:01:47   don't really know again I think it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3707">TS</a>]

01:01:50   though I i'm not sure what the point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3710">TS</a>]

01:01:52   the book was except that i enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3712">TS</a>]

01:01:55   reading it and I thought it was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:56   fantastically constructed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3716">TS</a>]

01:01:58   well-written yeah kind of get of jenny [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:01   and many papers will be written by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3721">TS</a>]

01:02:03   English students about this it's just I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3723">TS</a>]

01:02:05   hate that it comes so close to being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3725">TS</a>]

01:02:07   sublime and even in those last I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3727">TS</a>]

01:02:09   to the second page from the last night [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3729">TS</a>]

01:02:12   was like it's coming it's here and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:14   last few pages i swear i got down to one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3734">TS</a>]

01:02:16   page was like oh god it's not go because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3736">TS</a>]

01:02:18   it and it didn't come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:20   oh except for the aforementioned Adam [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3740">TS</a>]

01:02:23   Adam Ewing as the focal point of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3743">TS</a>]

01:02:25   beginning and end of this book is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:26   major problem i think really i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3746">TS</a>]

01:02:30   it will transmit of a doe a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:32   people have yeah well and then and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:34   in the end you don't I mean I I actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3754">TS</a>]

01:02:36   feel like it's like frobisher's story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3756">TS</a>]

01:02:38   you know I got to the end of that story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:41   and then and then back to Adam you like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3761">TS</a>]

01:02:43   a Adam Ewing you know i just did never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:45   yeah i think it's a weakness because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3765">TS</a>]

01:02:47   that that it because it's in that style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:49   which is totally right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:51   I it but it's a little bit of a snooze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:53   and his big revelation is that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3773">TS</a>]

01:02:55   going to be a an abolitionist and yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3775">TS</a>]

01:02:58   it's not it's it's not the strongest [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00   starter or enter and it's funny because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:03   i think the beginning and end sections [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:06   and the dead center sections are not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:08   great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3788">TS</a>]

01:03:10   compared to some of the stuff in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3790">TS</a>]

01:03:12   middle I don't know yeah I think that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3792">TS</a>]

01:03:15   true i think the the first and last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:17   section are good in that they are well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3797">TS</a>]

01:03:20   written and good kind of mimicking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:24   that style but that the the story itself [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3804">TS</a>]

01:03:26   is not all that component yet to come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3806">TS</a>]

01:03:28   all that way and end up with Adam you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3808">TS</a>]

01:03:30   and getting off the boat in Hawaii or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3810">TS</a>]

01:03:33   San Francisco or wherever he ends up is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:35   not i guess it's Hawaii because that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:38   don't you know that story ends in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3818">TS</a>]

01:03:40   same place that the story of the NRA [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3820">TS</a>]

01:03:41   world ends so right that's where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3821">TS</a>]

01:03:44   freed slave save his life yeah exactly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3824">TS</a>]

01:03:47   mm but I i am very glad that i read this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3827">TS</a>]

01:03:53   book before I saw the movie though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:54   because I think that's no matter how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3834">TS</a>]

01:03:57   good the movie is going to be or how bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:59   the movie is going to be I can't help [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3839">TS</a>]

01:04:01   think that it will ruin the book for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03   anyone who read who sees the movie first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05   and then reads the book yeah I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:07   that's I've read some advanced reviews [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3847">TS</a>]

01:04:09   on the movie and they do not speak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3849">TS</a>]

01:04:11   highly no dear tend to say but I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:14   honestly what could you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3854">TS</a>]

01:04:15   I mean how do you film this this kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:18   a book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:19   totally i think there's the whole thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:22   that I don't I can't take it i do not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3862">TS</a>]

01:04:25   understand how this kind of book can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:27   turned into a compelling movie so I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:29   don't know if I want to even see this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:30   movie but I'm more intrigued now just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:32   because i read the book and I would kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3872">TS</a>]

01:04:33   of like to see how the heck they try to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:34   make it into a movie and I refused to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3874">TS</a>]

01:04:37   even watch the the trailer before [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3877">TS</a>]

01:04:38   finishing no one will be seated in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:41   senior citizens escape the old folks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3881">TS</a>]

01:04:43   home see ya i was reading that I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:46   thinking this disc this will make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3886">TS</a>]

01:04:48   pretty good maybe section [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3888">TS</a>]

01:04:49   yeah there's a whole escape let's get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3889">TS</a>]

01:04:52   some ease escape from you know there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3892">TS</a>]

01:04:54   there's some stuff but it's going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:55   at periods of action spread apart by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3895">TS</a>]

01:04:59   long sections of the book is anything to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3899">TS</a>]

01:05:02   go by expository [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:04   so what are they gonna do with that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3904">TS</a>]

01:05:06   don't know I'm that's been i'm glad i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:10   read the book thanks got it boggles the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3910">TS</a>]

01:05:12   mind yeah I am glad that i sold my wife [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3912">TS</a>]

01:05:15   told me to read this book like five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3915">TS</a>]

01:05:17   years ago ignored her recommendation [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:20   that movie came out if i don't know i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3920">TS</a>]

01:05:22   gotta get to it before the movie excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3922">TS</a>]

01:05:24   i watch the trailer for the movie and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26   thought this is sounds like it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:27   really interesting novel that's gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3927">TS</a>]

01:05:29   an awful movie so I should really read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:32   the novel before the movie comes out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:34   good idea i'm good idea and i'm glad i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3934">TS</a>]

01:05:37   sad that I only came across this book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3937">TS</a>]

01:05:39   too late to not have the soon to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:42   major motion picture on the top of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3942">TS</a>]

01:05:44   cover but at least i have avoided tom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3944">TS</a>]

01:05:47   hanks and Halle Berry peering at me from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3947">TS</a>]

01:05:48   the windows instead of the lovely cloud [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:50   pictures that idea is dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3950">TS</a>]

01:05:52   that's right I'm play Tom Hanks in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54   movie tom hanks plays a cloud we all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:56   play cloud man oh yeah we're all good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3956">TS</a>]

01:05:59   you know like I clouds need reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:01   through time and space you know what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3961">TS</a>]

01:06:03   yeah that's when the mean clouds come in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3963">TS</a>]

01:06:05   a press the other nice clouds and tell [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3965">TS</a>]

01:06:07   them where to go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:09   sometimes we'd rig works and sometimes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:11   we drip yeah good times [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:14   now the times we suck up the ocean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:16   alright this has been great scott thank [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:18   you for that thank you for suggesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3978">TS</a>]

01:06:20   this book that nobody read but us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3980">TS</a>]

01:06:23   well I'm glad that at least you two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3983">TS</a>]

01:06:24   brave fellows picked up this book and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3984">TS</a>]

01:06:26   actually finished it because i do think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:29   that despite some of its flaws [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3989">TS</a>]

01:06:31   it's a 0 a book that is a rewarding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3991">TS</a>]

01:06:35   experience to read if you enjoy kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:38   out-of-the-box reading books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/3998">TS</a>]

01:06:41   yes injury but so far not so far outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4001">TS</a>]

01:06:44   of the box that it was difficult to read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4004">TS</a>]

01:06:46   or irritating to read which is nice yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4006">TS</a>]

01:06:48   yes exactly it's not like a totally [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4008">TS</a>]

01:06:51   experimental story down oh you have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4011">TS</a>]

01:06:54   idea what's going on there are very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4014">TS</a>]

01:06:55   strong plot lines and you can follow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4015">TS</a>]

01:06:57   them through the mr. om they're all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4017">TS</a>]

01:06:59   genres right there all recognized by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4019">TS</a>]

01:07:01   many of these are things that I i feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:04   like i've read this book before or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4024">TS</a>]

01:07:06   something very much like it and I and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4026">TS</a>]

01:07:08   like that so so they're not they're not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:11   painful pretentious things are woven [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4031">TS</a>]

01:07:14   together in a pretentious way maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:18   but they're individually not that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:20   that's like there there's a series of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22   concentric boxes of increasing size and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:24   this is actually outside of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4044">TS</a>]

01:07:26   box but it doesn't actually step outside [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4046">TS</a>]

01:07:28   of the second box so it's right in there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4048">TS</a>]

01:07:31   I see yes they're there are six boxes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4051">TS</a>]

01:07:35   nested Wow all right on that note I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4055">TS</a>]

01:07:43   going to thank everybody for listening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4063">TS</a>]

01:07:45   and I'm going to thank Steve let's and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4065">TS</a>]

01:07:46   Scott McNulty for reading the book yay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4066">TS</a>]

01:07:50   you read the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4070">TS</a>]

01:07:52   yay for us for a i'm glad i did and now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4072">TS</a>]

01:07:55   I can go back to doing other things and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4075">TS</a>]

01:07:57   I'm glad you both liked it because I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4077">TS</a>]

01:08:00   afraid that no one damn scott magno t [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:02   why am I reading this but we thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4082">TS</a>]

01:08:05   that during the first chapter and then I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4085">TS</a>]

01:08:07   got over it so I one clan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4087">TS</a>]

01:08:09   yeah this is a little bit out of what we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4089">TS</a>]

01:08:11   have been reading for the book club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4091">TS</a>]

01:08:13   it is and that at msy many of our book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4093">TS</a>]

01:08:16   club versa bailed on an apparent their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4096">TS</a>]

01:08:19   extreme left their comfort zone [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4099">TS</a>]

01:08:21   well we know who the strong and the weak [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4101">TS</a>]

01:08:23   are now don't we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4103">TS</a>]

01:08:24   mhm it turns out the guy that never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4104">TS</a>]

01:08:27   reads is one of the strong term who saw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4107">TS</a>]

01:08:29   that coming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:29   it's a plot twist to clean comfortable [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4109">TS</a>]

01:08:31   compost of the century irony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4111">TS</a>]

01:08:35   thanks everybody for listening to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4115">TS</a>]

01:08:37   income from podcast until our next book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4117">TS</a>]

01:08:38   club good Bob [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMYBkICo/4118">TS</a>]