The Incomparable

00:00:00 ◼   ► the entire operable podcast episode 114 [TS]

00:00:08 ◼   ► October 2012 [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► back on the uncomfortable podcast I'm [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► your host Jason smell and we are doing a [TS]

00:00:16 ◼   ► flash podcast this time news has has [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► broken on as we record this October [TS]

00:00:23 ◼   ► thirtieth that I was absolutely shocked [TS]

00:00:26 ◼   ► by it would blew me away i actually had [TS]

00:00:29 ◼   ► to do some research because i didn't [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► believe what I was seeing I did various [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► internet searches is this a reputable [TS]

00:00:35 ◼   ► website that's posting this thing and it [TS]

00:00:39 ◼   ► turns out that today as we record this [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► the walt disney company purchased [TS]

00:00:45 ◼   ► Lucasfilm and all of its assets [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► including Star Wars for four billion [TS]

00:00:52 ◼   ► dollars and at the same time they [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► announced that a new Star Wars sequel [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► trilogy is in the works to begin with an [TS]

00:01:03 ◼   ► episode 7 real i cannot believe i'm [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► saying this to you all this is I could I [TS]

00:01:09 ◼   ► was gonna swear I'd be rude to be [TS]

00:01:11 ◼   ► released in 2015 joining me to chew on [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► what all this means our people who are [TS]

00:01:18 ◼   ► interested in Star Wars serenity [TS]

00:01:20 ◼   ► Caldwell joins us from my closet in [TS]

00:01:22 ◼   ► Massachusetts that hiding from Hurricane [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► hi [TS]

00:01:25 ◼   ► that's not true that's impossible [TS]

00:01:29 ◼   ► hi also dan more in high no [TS]

00:01:32 ◼   ► disintegrations and Jonathan John [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► siracusa search your feelings etc [TS]

00:01:39 ◼   ► oh thank you and Ben boy check I know [TS]

00:01:42 ◼   ► it's a little early but i just want to [TS]

00:01:43 ◼   ► say happy life day everybody know 100 [TS]

00:01:51 ◼   ► already it's over oh it was over this [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► morning so I you know I don't even I'm [TS]

00:01:57 ◼   ► flabbergasted at this news I I have [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► mixed emotions I I didn't see it coming [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► I I i actually figured that George Lucas [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► would keep a stranglehold on star wars [TS]

00:02:07 ◼   ► until he died basically yeah and-and-and [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► Moore was killed for me as well that [TS]

00:02:14 ◼   ► would lead to he would be dead he would [TS]

00:02:16 ◼   ► die if he was killed was convicted in [TS]

00:02:18 ◼   ► the People vs George Lucas that's right [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► now i'm still waiting for everybody but [TS]

00:02:22 ◼   ► you did the death penalty mm I don't [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► know you know I wasn't so surprised that [TS]

00:02:27 ◼   ► the acquisition happened in fact damn [TS]

00:02:30 ◼   ► was the person who told me about it I [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► want to watch list feliz oh well it's [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► going on and you told me through osmosis [TS]

00:02:39 ◼   ► I when I look tan originally I'm like no [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► you know what this makes a lot of sense [TS]

00:02:43 ◼   ► because Disney and Lucasfilm have long [TS]

00:02:46 ◼   ► been integrated with the disney parks [TS]

00:02:48 ◼   ► and everything else I'm and George Lucas [TS]

00:02:50 ◼   ► has been mentioning and rumbling for a [TS]

00:02:52 ◼   ► couple years now that oh he's tired of [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► making films and he's tired of the [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► community and he really doesn't want to [TS]

00:02:57 ◼   ► be a part of it anymore and he wants to [TS]

00:02:59 ◼   ► retire so I'm like all right you know [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► like I can see it I can see him selling [TS]

00:03:04 ◼   ► I can see him retiring and then I saw [TS]

00:03:08 ◼   ► the new Star Wars movie in 2015 and [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► that's when my mind exploded [TS]

00:03:13 ◼   ► yeah i pasted that into and I am to Dan [TS]

00:03:15 ◼   ► and he said something like what is this [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► likely he was is this some sort of money [TS]

00:03:21 ◼   ► joke about this [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► no not it's not even very funny i spent [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► all day say like all afternoon going [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► what what is happening what is going on [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► right now I don't understand it's very [TS]

00:03:32 ◼   ► confusing part of me is like using you [TS]

00:03:35 ◼   ► know I i remember hearing when I was [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► younger you know like a teenager about [TS]

00:03:39 ◼   ► like all the all yeah somebody's gonna [TS]

00:03:42 ◼   ► make 789 after he makes the prequels [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► blah blah blah always seems like you [TS]

00:03:46 ◼   ► know forever you know that was that was [TS]

00:03:48 ◼   ► just something in the distant future and [TS]

00:03:50 ◼   ► then later on older I got he denied it [TS]

00:03:52 ◼   ► like now I'm never gonna make those are [TS]

00:03:54 ◼   ► done and you know we got we got lulled [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► into a false sense of security [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► it's a trap [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► I heard those same stories about 70 and [TS]

00:04:04 ◼   ► i need to i was a kid which was far in [TS]

00:04:06 ◼   ► all the old people that he asked that's [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► been around forever it's like you're [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► right after Jedi to know they're gonna [TS]

00:04:10 ◼   ► make one two and three and seven eight [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► nine and there's a lava pit in like just [TS]

00:04:15 ◼   ► the whole mind yards with its we just [TS]

00:04:18 ◼   ► you know that i don't know i think small [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► true John it's altered true to keep true [TS]

00:04:24 ◼   ► but it's like a month but it's like a [TS]

00:04:26 ◼   ► monkey paw story we're like you get what [TS]

00:04:28 ◼   ► you wish but it's like terrible chamblee [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► liked me what you're doing you're like [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► no monkey paw please no more I I mean [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► Lucas himself said I feel like there's [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► an interview for five years ago where [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► he's like oh no I'm never gonna do 789 [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► because the extended universe all of the [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► novels and the video games and [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► everything else I've already touched on [TS]

00:04:50 ◼   ► that and i'm content playing in my one [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► through six you know sandbox of terror [TS]

00:04:56 ◼   ► and destruction [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► I honestly when they said oh we're going [TS]

00:05:00 ◼   ► to make Episode seven my first thought [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► beyond WTF was what on earth is it going [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► to be about the unless they recast it [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► they're either going to eight storylines [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► from the extended universe or they're [TS]

00:05:14 ◼   ► going to do something else and d [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► canonize the entire extended universe [TS]

00:05:19 ◼   ► but they can't possibly use the same [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► actors right well mean so there's a [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► story now there's a story on [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► starwars.com but why I think some sort [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► of a archivist who said that at one [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► point uh mark hamill was having a [TS]

00:05:34 ◼   ► conversation I think when they were [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► shooting empire with George Lucas and [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► George said yeah I'm going to do one two [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► and three [TS]

00:05:40 ◼   ► after a break and then I'm gonna do so [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► i'm gonna do 789 @ & and you so I might [TS]

00:05:46 ◼   ► need you to be in episode 7 and Mark [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► Hamill said when would that be and he [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► said you know like 2011 something like [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► that and i started the series always pop [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► them [TS]

00:05:56 ◼   ► yeah I know I know but they were all [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► ridiculous and and and Lucas was always [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► like well I'm gonna retire you know i [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► i'm not going to do any more of those [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► and turns out it was actually i'm going [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► to sell the company to a big movie [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► studio and I'm gonna let my cat why [TS]

00:06:10 ◼   ► Kathleen Kennedy right that his old [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► producer that isn't she's in charge and [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► you guys make whatever you want i'm out [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► of here i got four billion bucks by [TS]

00:06:18 ◼   ► that's that's the thing that's what [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► makes this my initial thought was was [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► the same as everybody else's my initial [TS]

00:06:23 ◼   ► thought was capital and capital o no but [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► then I stopped in several capital o's [TS]

00:06:29 ◼   ► after that right yeah yeah no I really [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► thought you know in a episode 7 and I [TS]

00:06:36 ◼   ► thought I don't think they've made or [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► could possibly make enough prozac tuned [TS]

00:06:42 ◼   ► to make this right with me but then I [TS]

00:06:44 ◼   ► got to thinking about it and I started [TS]

00:06:47 ◼   ► reading a little bit and I read the [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► press releases and started reading some [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► of the new stories and I realize wait a [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► minute [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► II Lucas isn't gonna write and direct [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► this thing prize find the Sun comes out [TS]

00:06:59 ◼   ► well maybe I can almost live with I can [TS]

00:07:03 ◼   ► all live with that side we've already [TS]

00:07:06 ◼   ► hit rock bottom right like there's [TS]

00:07:08 ◼   ► nobody you hope so they don't like yeah [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► I mean there's a pretty bad i mean i [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► think we all agree like the little [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► here's the thing to think about because [TS]

00:07:17 ◼   ► that's not my fault he was in the chat [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► room right and no i didn't deny it as [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► you know right this is the cautionary [TS]

00:07:23 ◼   ► tale everybody and all the costas and [TS]

00:07:26 ◼   ► we're going to release one new Star Wars [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► movie every two to three years think [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► about Star Trek one new movie every two [TS]

00:07:31 ◼   ► to three years [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► what does that mean forever until we get [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► star trek five is that what has to [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► happen is that you understand and we in [TS]

00:07:38 ◼   ► the waters play out in the words of the [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► immortal Phil Hartman from the simpsons [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► until the series becomes unprofitable [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► right about one thing is like they have [TS]

00:07:50 ◼   ► seven behind you have an 89 fine but [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► just they just keep going eventually you [TS]

00:07:54 ◼   ► get you know the undiscovered country [TS]

00:07:56 ◼   ► like it just happened you know how do [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► you mean you can't avoid it and so [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► that's the nightmare scenario is way out [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► in our future hopefully by then we will [TS]

00:08:02 ◼   ► be totally detached for this and we will [TS]

00:08:04 ◼   ► just be looking at it as if we're [TS]

00:08:06 ◼   ► floating above our own bodies huh what's [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► right or we re blue outline ghosts is [TS]

00:08:12 ◼   ► that what we are in this scenario if [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► only the GI don't have maybe we've been [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► replaced with our younger actress [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► yeah i know i mean they said [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► specifically why I listen to the [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► financial call along with dan and Jason [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► was in [TS]

00:08:27 ◼   ► staying worst Apple results call ever oh [TS]

00:08:29 ◼   ► it is often made for behind dollars they [TS]

00:08:33 ◼   ► said very specifically that they were [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► going to do 789 is a trilogy and then [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► they were basically going to mind the [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► star wars universe for other live-action [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► stories so we're not necessarily [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► sticking with the same characters [TS]

00:08:46 ◼   ► presuming that we're sticking with the [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► same characters to begin with 4789 and I [TS]

00:08:50 ◼   ► mean I could see really interesting [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► little stories as wanted to anyone [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► the boba fett movie you know what I [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► would watch the boba fett movies [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► I remember everything about you had John [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► 88 movie yeah well that but I mean you [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► movie i would watch a kids movie with [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► r2d2 and c3po paddling around like I i [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► would genuinely enjoy that if it were [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► well written so i have a question which [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► is we listen to a little bit they talked [TS]

00:09:16 ◼   ► a little bit about some of the right [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► stuff is is still you know tied up there [TS]

00:09:19 ◼   ► are some production like deals you know [TS]

00:09:21 ◼   ► for example some reason in Armenia Jones [TS]

00:09:23 ◼   ► is because they're got some deals with [TS]

00:09:25 ◼   ► with paramount now some of the it sounds [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► like the originals are all tied up with [TS]

00:09:29 ◼   ► fox right second question whether or not [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► you know this is george lucas still have [TS]

00:09:34 ◼   ► enough pull their to prevent ever the [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► release of the remastered I don't think [TS]

00:09:38 ◼   ► ever since I think always on the table [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► III think it's entirely possible that if [TS]

00:09:42 ◼   ► disney and and Fox felt that there was a [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► market for you know a blu-ray restored [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► version of Star Wars i bet i bet they [TS]

00:09:51 ◼   ► bet they would do it but they could do [TS]

00:09:53 ◼   ► it i don't know if they'll decide if [TS]

00:09:55 ◼   ► it's worth it to do it you know anyone [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► land only you know didn't they wouldn't [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► running on that that's that's the dreams [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► like the upside of this announcement is [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► one George Lucas has no involvement [TS]

00:10:05 ◼   ► doesn't write it doesn't do anything [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► terrible easily the Creator consult John [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► right well which i read as being that [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► he's got his notes about what 789 would [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► have been from like 1974 [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► yeah that's great George and I added [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► those weirdos out here and rough outline [TS]

00:10:21 ◼   ► was more or less a creative consultant [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► an empire and look how that turned out [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► exactly yeah they know that is a guy [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► who's Skywalker's father darth vader you [TS]

00:10:29 ◼   ► don't find out into the middle movie [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► then he's redeemed right thank you do [TS]

00:10:33 ◼   ► you work now we'll take it from the only [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► thing that makes me really hopeful is [TS]

00:10:37 ◼   ► that star tours is perhaps one of my [TS]

00:10:39 ◼   ► favorite ride [TS]

00:10:40 ◼   ► heads of all time in a Disney Universe [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► and that script is incredibly [TS]

00:10:45 ◼   ► well-written even the new version which [TS]

00:10:47 ◼   ► has prequel seems so I'm you know going [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► in their bias to hate it was really [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► clever really well done [TS]

00:10:55 ◼   ► they know how to handle the material you [TS]

00:10:57 ◼   ► know and so you've already seen what a [TS]

00:10:59 ◼   ► collaboration between lucas r Lucasfilm [TS]

00:11:01 ◼   ► and disney will work out so i'm curious [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► to see if they can actually you know do [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► that and as elegant as Jason said you've [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► seen how the kate the big like the [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► collaboration between say Disney and [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► Marvel which is also in my disney worked [TS]

00:11:14 ◼   ► out you know we've gotten a whole bunch [TS]

00:11:16 ◼   ► of money some someone even yeah but like [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► the point is that they they do try to [TS]

00:11:21 ◼   ► bring in people computer before [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► daredevil daredevil okay yeah well you [TS]

00:11:27 ◼   ► know people talk about how well that [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► they handle Marvel and how much better [TS]

00:11:30 ◼   ► the mark how much better uh that there's [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► a lot better than four miles from any [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► sort of DC license but think of it this [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► way i would rather have the DC treatment [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► where you pick one crazy obsessed you [TS]

00:11:42 ◼   ► know altar to do your movies for one [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► flagship guy you Christopher alone and [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► you give him three movies and maybe [TS]

00:11:48 ◼   ► messes up the third but I would much [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► rather see that treatment then the [TS]

00:11:51 ◼   ► marble treatment like everybody gets a [TS]

00:11:53 ◼   ► property you get a property you get the [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► property make normal things present nor [TS]

00:11:56 ◼   ► things of Luke though because if you [TS]

00:11:58 ◼   ► look at now they're trying to start [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► talking about justice league and all [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► that but they saw it right making money [TS]

00:12:02 ◼   ► on it pick a director give him three [TS]

00:12:05 ◼   ► movies let him do a christopher nolan on [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► Star Wars as we only chance we have to [TS]

00:12:08 ◼   ► get only you could argue that that was [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► what George Lucas did to star wars in [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► the first place so our buddy uh our [TS]

00:12:15 ◼   ► buddy John Gruber ask this question and [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► I thought it was interesting speaking of [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► directors which is what director would [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► you love what is your dream decision to [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► direct Star Wars again i can't believe [TS]

00:12:28 ◼   ► i'm saying the Star Wars Episode 7 we're [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► doing living or dead or 70 like real [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► reality isn't like fantasy to the [TS]

00:12:35 ◼   ► reality do person well ask me Carson [TS]

00:12:38 ◼   ► well well mr alfred hitchcock's star [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► wars [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► oh you know what i would watch Woody [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► Allen dude you're at all your beauty [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► I mean I'm looking for going on and oh [TS]

00:12:54 ◼   ► you're in tirana console let me tell you [TS]

00:12:56 ◼   ► what do you mean I got a gorgeous you [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► know I think I think you know obviously [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► just sweden has been bandied about a lot [TS]

00:13:05 ◼   ► of my work with just means i think just [TS]

00:13:07 ◼   ► weed is smart enough to know like that's [TS]

00:13:10 ◼   ► just a different he's gotta tell he's [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► gotten franchises I feel like he's not [TS]

00:13:14 ◼   ► he's not a good fit i don't think he's [TS]

00:13:15 ◼   ► worried he's working on [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► he's basically a down the Marvel path [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► now right so he's on a franchise JJ [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► Abrams who I think wouldn't be a great [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► fit at this point again he's got a [TS]

00:13:23 ◼   ► franchise he's on the franchise he's [TS]

00:13:25 ◼   ► evil riendo those guys are kicking [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► themselves now everybody's I know we can [TS]

00:13:28 ◼   ► add star wars [TS]

00:13:30 ◼   ► Oh dad who's the guy did his middleman [TS]

00:13:32 ◼   ► javi [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► yeah I don't know you he probably [TS]

00:13:36 ◼   ► doesn't have the credit is not full well [TS]

00:13:38 ◼   ► he's just told me he's just a writer [TS]

00:13:39 ◼   ► really he's not a all director but I [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► mean I'm just what I mean let's see if [TS]

00:13:44 ◼   ► the group was on the David Fincher train [TS]

00:13:46 ◼   ► adventure like future but I don't think [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► features i don't think it's right [TS]

00:13:50 ◼   ► the director doesn't matter as much as [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► the script does because the script wants [TS]

00:13:53 ◼   ► friends like what kind of movie is this [TS]

00:13:55 ◼   ► is a dumb kids movie or is it like you [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► know really smart like that the script [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► is what really then all you need is the [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► right director to a not screw up the [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► script and be maybe enhanced but it all [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► depends on that script because you have [TS]

00:14:07 ◼   ► you give if you give like a not-so-great [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► script to anybody it's just gonna be [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► we're whatever you know it's gotta be a [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► great script so I think the writer is [TS]

00:14:16 ◼   ► haha yeah we saw it semi good with [TS]

00:14:20 ◼   ► spider-man 3 [TS]

00:14:21 ◼   ► yeah like it's nothing you can do like [TS]

00:14:24 ◼   ► you're all you use all your skills and [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► all your powers and it's like I got to [TS]

00:14:27 ◼   ► work with here like it's just no good [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► you know it's like it that's when the [TS]

00:14:30 ◼   ► Empire pods guess the thing that [TS]

00:14:32 ◼   ► elevates that is the script is just so [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► much better and then of course yes [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► everything execute and also understood [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► but if you don't have a great script the [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► director does not make it do about it i [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► can rewrite the movies themselves like [TS]

00:14:41 ◼   ► it shouldn't director can be the can be [TS]

00:14:43 ◼   ► the boss of the movie and can exert some [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► creative control and get things to be [TS]

00:14:46 ◼   ► you know get things that come in line [TS]

00:14:49 ◼   ► right that's something like the Nolan [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► thing like where he was just that's that [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► was his crazy project he's gonna reboot [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► Batman he's totally serious about i'm [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► sure he controlled every aspect of that [TS]

00:14:58 ◼   ► thing and if he wasn't happy with the [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► script you know go around in circles [TS]

00:15:00 ◼   ► until he got what he wanted [TS]

00:15:02 ◼   ► and you know because Batman Begins [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► wasn't just a good batman movie had a [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► good script not gonna name her rights [TS]

00:15:07 ◼   ► back out at level script but that's [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► that's what we need so I want I want to [TS]

00:15:10 ◼   ► know who the writer is and i want them [TS]

00:15:12 ◼   ► to take it seriously and write it like i [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► said lord of the rings but like that's [TS]

00:15:16 ◼   ► not that's cheating already had somebody [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► don't let somebody hand Wes Anderson 250 [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► million dollars for this the odds get [TS]

00:15:23 ◼   ► this going to fit [TS]

00:15:24 ◼   ► oh gosh russia says get it done [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► red star wars Academy with the bill [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► murray as the headmaster and the iso my [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► all so somebody a grouper also mentioned [TS]

00:15:36 ◼   ► brad bird who directed the incredibles [TS]

00:15:38 ◼   ► and did the mission impossible ghost [TS]

00:15:41 ◼   ► protocol which was actually pretty good [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► it was fine but was the script to ghost [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► Protocol all that awesome i didn't think [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► it was I think it's the moviemaking was [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► excellent top-notch moviemaking but the [TS]

00:15:52 ◼   ► script was like man like example I i [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► like the bourne movies better than ghost [TS]

00:15:56 ◼   ► protocol and it's not be going more [TS]

00:15:57 ◼   ► movies better made movies it's because [TS]

00:16:00 ◼   ► these stories are better script was [TS]

00:16:01 ◼   ► better right but all the bird has some [TS]

00:16:04 ◼   ► good writing credentials that just not [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► that not that movie like that he didn't [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► write and write that anybody but you [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► know the incredibles and ratatouille [TS]

00:16:11 ◼   ► wasn't saying yeah like when you give [TS]

00:16:13 ◼   ► the guy everyone think I'd be in charge [TS]

00:16:14 ◼   ► like that wasn't you know he was reading [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► The Impossible movie wasn't next Brad [TS]

00:16:18 ◼   ► Bird movie right i'm driving was bred [TS]

00:16:20 ◼   ► burden would be you know so so i would [TS]

00:16:22 ◼   ► love to see a Brad Bird Star Wars my my [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► nomination is duncan jones who directed [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► moon and source code that's my that's my [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► dark horse pic OH [TS]

00:16:33 ◼   ► ah good good director like that yeah you [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► right here and ok good director good [TS]

00:16:40 ◼   ► movie but we're not here to talk about [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► source code but i think i think he gets [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► the genre and is a and is a very [TS]

00:16:47 ◼   ► interesting director and would be an [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► interesting choice i feel like the [TS]

00:16:49 ◼   ► director for a movie like this unless [TS]

00:16:51 ◼   ► they get some I mean I was just saying [TS]

00:16:53 ◼   ► let's get some random person but [TS]

00:16:55 ◼   ► actually if you look at the way the [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► harry potter directors have been [TS]

00:16:57 ◼   ► selected it has been a random [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► cross-section of well-known directors [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► and completely like unknown directors [TS]

00:17:04 ◼   ► like David Yates who directed TV [TS]

00:17:07 ◼   ► mini-series directed state of play right [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► on bbc1's you right let's go to the [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► audio to what I like Spielberg [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► really i I just I don't think he depart [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► can't be a lot of their story I don't [TS]

00:17:19 ◼   ► want to do it like you do it either but [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► it would be it would be interesting what [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► he directed 30 years he's gone he's gone [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► too soft to do what I want this wheel is [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► on ya after Schindler's List managed [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► just not just not hungry i feel like you [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► would ever like he would make out we can [TS]

00:17:37 ◼   ► focus [TS]

00:17:39 ◼   ► he's gonna be like a little baby shine [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► here the Empire the crystal skull [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► oh yeah that doesn't matter [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► those two old men Crystal Skull look [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► what happened you can't those guys are [TS]

00:17:50 ◼   ► out you guys got to be young I think we [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► I mean all the people who've been naming [TS]

00:17:53 ◼   ► also like doesn't have to be someone [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► younger someone hungry what my mother [TS]

00:17:57 ◼   ► used to studio director and liking [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► others like hey you know we need we need [TS]

00:18:01 ◼   ► to find somebody who's just going to [TS]

00:18:03 ◼   ► basically do we don't want to screw this [TS]

00:18:04 ◼   ► up so we want to find somebody who's [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► gonna do what we tell them to you and I [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► think that would be the most disastrous [TS]

00:18:08 ◼   ► thing [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► yeah yeah well I mean they took a chance [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► on Joss Whedon for Avengers and it [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► turned out really well for them so maybe [TS]

00:18:16 ◼   ► they have learned positively from that [TS]

00:18:18 ◼   ► experience don't learn live and don't [TS]

00:18:20 ◼   ► well you know I i would love to see and [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► it will never happen but i would love to [TS]

00:18:25 ◼   ► see ryan Johnson take a whack at it just [TS]

00:18:27 ◼   ► because I think he has a really [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► interesting you of movie cinema in the [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► world but who is he what did you do [TS]

00:18:35 ◼   ► Luke Bryan Johnson did looper he did [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► brothers blown i got no I so I've been [TS]

00:18:39 ◼   ► avoiding that and the podcast with him [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► on it because i don't want to stay [TS]

00:18:42 ◼   ► smaller yeah no heat [TS]

00:18:45 ◼   ► he is has a very good idea of how sci-fi [TS]

00:18:47 ◼   ► works and works i feel very very well [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► with complicated plots and good dialogue [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► so you know it could be work and it's [TS]

00:18:57 ◼   ► you know it's interesting given [TS]

00:18:58 ◼   ► obviously how many directors who are [TS]

00:19:01 ◼   ► around you especially younger directors [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► and at this point are the ones who cite [TS]

00:19:05 ◼   ► Star Wars is such a major influence on [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► their life right you know so it is weird [TS]

00:19:10 ◼   ► to think that you know you might get a [TS]

00:19:11 ◼   ► chance to to touch something that that [TS]

00:19:14 ◼   ► is that influential and i can see that [TS]

00:19:17 ◼   ► being you know they're being a lot of [TS]

00:19:18 ◼   ► trepidation around that but I hope [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► somebody i hope they find somebody good [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► you gotta do is not going to make a [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► terrible mess of it already said that [TS]

00:19:27 ◼   ► it's with Star Trek right JJ had the [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► stance but I felt like that JJ Abrams [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► Star Trek's area like I like that movie [TS]

00:19:33 ◼   ► but it kind of has the thing of like [TS]

00:19:35 ◼   ► they let him direct their next star wars [TS]

00:19:37 ◼   ► movie but it wasn't it when you watch it [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► wasn't like this looks like a J from [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► story like he didn't that's I don't want [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► that to happen like that was the was a [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► trend was saying that the students just [TS]

00:19:46 ◼   ► gonna want to have control I give it to [TS]

00:19:48 ◼   ► you and don't screw it up but you don't [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► really get much influence because the [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► star wars star trek reboot that wasn't a [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► JJ Abrams story just didn't seem like it [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► to me or if it was he was cowed by [TS]

00:19:57 ◼   ► whatever it is they wanted to keep it is [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► directing job on it but like I want [TS]

00:20:02 ◼   ► someone to really put their fingerprint [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► on it now I don't have to crown the guy [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► really fast [TS]

00:20:06 ◼   ► I mean those are those are his those [TS]

00:20:08 ◼   ► guys who wrote it and it felt Abrams e [TS]

00:20:11 ◼   ► to me other than the fact that it didn't [TS]

00:20:13 ◼   ► start with the flash forward and then [TS]

00:20:15 ◼   ► say you know three days earlier and then [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► tell the actual story that's the big [TS]

00:20:18 ◼   ► Abrams part is missing [TS]

00:20:20 ◼   ► I think maybe he felt like an obligation [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► to the two I don't know if you'd call it [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► to like to make it dance the dance of [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► startrack yeah like sorrow I having body [TS]

00:20:30 ◼   ► of you know and and that we're gonna get [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► it and yet it's incredibly Star Wars [TS]

00:20:35 ◼   ► like a movie what he didn't he didn't [TS]

00:20:36 ◼   ► write it and he had his guy is that he [TS]

00:20:38 ◼   ► had his guys who love star trek write [TS]

00:20:40 ◼   ► the script and then he in [TS]

00:20:41 ◼   ► yeah and then he tried to make it good [TS]

00:20:43 ◼   ► and they it's an interesting compromise [TS]

00:20:45 ◼   ► your right but and the joss whedon think [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► maybe I you know an interesting example [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► of somebody who's been given and before [TS]

00:20:50 ◼   ► we didn't you know if you think of these [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► things is not a single movies but as you [TS]

00:20:55 ◼   ► know they are franchises but they're [TS]

00:20:57 ◼   ► also almost like TV shows and that [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► there's a there's a through-line for the [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► plot and we're talking about three [TS]

00:21:02 ◼   ► movies not just a single movie and with [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► the Marvel movies first you had jon [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► favreau kind of shepherding it from the [TS]

00:21:08 ◼   ► original iron man movie up to the [TS]

00:21:10 ◼   ► Avengers and he basically did a but a [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► baton pass to joss whedon who's sort of [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► you know basically the creative director [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► working with the studio but you get the [TS]

00:21:20 ◼   ► in a sense that he is shaping the [TS]

00:21:23 ◼   ► storylines for all of these movies for [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► the next cycle and so that that's an [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► interesting question would they know [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► who's going to be the driving force is [TS]

00:21:30 ◼   ► going to be you know Kennedy and the [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► people at at Lucasfilm corporate with a [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► sort of like random collection of [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► writers and directors or is there going [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► to be somebody who is [TS]

00:21:41 ◼   ► brought in and said you know we really [TS]

00:21:42 ◼   ► do want you to be the creative forces [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► driving it and I'm a little skeptical [TS]

00:21:46 ◼   ► but what about I mean you know there [TS]

00:21:50 ◼   ► have been some very very fine a [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► science-fiction movies over the Pamela [TS]

00:21:55 ◼   ► was the guy who was the name of the guy [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► who directed district nine I've been [TS]

00:21:59 ◼   ► searching for and I couldn't old Bob [TS]

00:22:02 ◼   ► Blomkamp around camp and yon camp was [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► erected was originally supposed to [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► direct the halo movie that never happens [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► if he would have fit with halo but i [TS]

00:22:09 ◼   ► can't imagine like really gross aliens [TS]

00:22:12 ◼   ► and uh huh [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► district nine meet style yeah but I mean [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► did you get hard to judge them on just [TS]

00:22:18 ◼   ► the basis of one movie too [TS]

00:22:19 ◼   ► yeah that'sthat's true you know these [TS]

00:22:23 ◼   ► are yummy looking at jackson enough guys [TS]

00:22:25 ◼   ► have done interesting step up [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► yeah Peter Jackson's interesting example [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► because you had like you know dead alive [TS]

00:22:31 ◼   ► and heavenly creature or creatures and [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► you're like who is this guy splatter her [TS]

00:22:36 ◼   ► and then heavenly creatures and then he [TS]

00:22:39 ◼   ► gets Lord of the Rings you don't know [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► what the heck to expect that you skipped [TS]

00:22:41 ◼   ► you skipped a couple really creepy like [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► really weird movies in there too i was [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► doing that was doing the endpoints yeah [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► but I was writing and everybody meeting [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► will write more on and the frighteners [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► is like that was just mediocre and just [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► not good at all it was like I'd rather [TS]

00:22:54 ◼   ► you know it the other polls but you [TS]

00:22:56 ◼   ► don't know what to expect when he gets [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► the Lord of the Rings franchises and [TS]

00:22:58 ◼   ► everyone's nervous about it but he ended [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► up being pretty conservative with the [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► treatment of or the ranks of it with the [TS]

00:23:05 ◼   ► neil whose name I don't try to pronounce [TS]

00:23:07 ◼   ► of district nine thing yet we don't [TS]

00:23:08 ◼   ► really know what he would do if given [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► like I would like to see him get the [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► hello Francesca think that would be a [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► good fit but that blew up but Jackson [TS]

00:23:16 ◼   ► again is an example of a guy who's a [TS]

00:23:18 ◼   ► director who is it was a somewhat [TS]

00:23:21 ◼   ► accomplished director but also a writer [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► with a you know with Philippa boyens the [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► sort of writing team for four lord the [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► rings and and you know that's the [TS]

00:23:28 ◼   ► question is do you do you have somebody [TS]

00:23:31 ◼   ► like that who can do both those things [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► and can really guide it through or do [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► you you know is having a very studio [TS]

00:23:37 ◼   ► studio system kind of we've got a script [TS]

00:23:39 ◼   ► and now we'll hire a director you know [TS]

00:23:42 ◼   ► yeah I don't know we should say that [TS]

00:23:44 ◼   ► there's there's other there's other [TS]

00:23:46 ◼   ► stuff going on in the background here [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► too because they've been developing a [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► star wars TV series in the background [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► here while and I don't know if that's [TS]

00:23:52 ◼   ► gonna keep going i was a [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► we mentioned during the call today that [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► they're like they saw that as an [TS]

00:23:56 ◼   ► opportunity right like television rights [TS]

00:23:58 ◼   ► hehe market and that they're gonna do [TS]

00:24:00 ◼   ► animation like they'd been living with [TS]

00:24:03 ◼   ► doing animate right for a long time [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► right Clone Wars has been around for [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► several years now right but I I don't [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► know it's interesting because now that [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► you separate the property from the [TS]

00:24:13 ◼   ► person who's created it right and i [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► think you know all bets are off in terms [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► of like yeah you don't really [TS]

00:24:19 ◼   ► necessarily need like an all a single [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► altar to do it i think you could get [TS]

00:24:22 ◼   ► away with someone writing a good script [TS]

00:24:23 ◼   ► and someone you know a solid director [TS]

00:24:25 ◼   ► but i think they do have to be a team I [TS]

00:24:27 ◼   ► mean you know no one doesn't necessarily [TS]

00:24:29 ◼   ► write all the scripts for the Batman [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► movie work something that sort of his [TS]

00:24:31 ◼   ► brother I believe you know and i think [TS]

00:24:34 ◼   ► there's I think they did tell me that I [TS]

00:24:36 ◼   ► would see some of the I mean there's [TS]

00:24:38 ◼   ► some great writers out there not just in [TS]

00:24:39 ◼   ► Hollywood but in like you know comic [TS]

00:24:41 ◼   ► book when I don't know why Bryant Bryant [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► a bondsman name popped to mind but I [TS]

00:24:45 ◼   ► thought about someone like him as a as [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► an interesting example of the kind of [TS]

00:24:48 ◼   ► writers they could attract this [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► yeah i mean the one danger that I worry [TS]

00:24:53 ◼   ► about is star wars is a definitive point [TS]

00:24:56 ◼   ► of many people's childhoods and many [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► current artists where they kind of got [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► there there sci-fi/fantasy bug and I do [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► worry about the being so reverential to [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► the treatments that it you know [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► overloads the movie and we're just [TS]

00:25:11 ◼   ► getting nothing but references things [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► like that i mean i think we kind of got [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► a taste with that the prequels and and [TS]

00:25:18 ◼   ► all of the other sort of reboots they've [TS]

00:25:20 ◼   ► been going on in the last 10 years but [TS]

00:25:23 ◼   ► that said they've really got to be [TS]

00:25:25 ◼   ► careful to make sure to get somebody who [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► you know can knows the material and can [TS]

00:25:29 ◼   ► work with material but isn't going to be [TS]

00:25:32 ◼   ► sluggish Lee you know in love with it [TS]

00:25:34 ◼   ► and devoted to trying to make everything [TS]

00:25:38 ◼   ► you know you don't want to do what Lucas [TS]

00:25:40 ◼   ► would do so let's see what you got [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► finding jobs think about what this book [TS]

00:25:46 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► yeah is this steve jobs are still alive [TS]

00:25:51 ◼   ► he is done so is is this i mean [TS]

00:25:54 ◼   ► unbalanced you do you think this is a [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► good this is good news or bad news that [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► that because because we've got George [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► Lucas kind of stepping away which gives [TS]

00:26:01 ◼   ► this franchise an opportunity to not [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► being covered by all of these issues [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:26:07 ◼   ► people have with George Lucas and his [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► bad writing and his strange ideas but at [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► the same time they're making more star [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► wars movies and that's scary because [TS]

00:26:16 ◼   ► that who knows what they'll be so on [TS]

00:26:18 ◼   ► balance is this you know is this news [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► today good or bad [TS]

00:26:22 ◼   ► to what do I think I think there's this [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► there's actually cynical part of me that [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► was like you know where the story goes [TS]

00:26:28 ◼   ► like what are they doing but I i gotta [TS]

00:26:30 ◼   ► admit I was feeling a little bit giddy [TS]

00:26:32 ◼   ► all afternoon after i heard this i don't [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► i don't know what like again all prior [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► evidence suggests i should not feel [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► excited about this and yet there was a [TS]

00:26:41 ◼   ► part of me that like was that [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► sixteen-year-old again who was going on [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► I got any more stars that's awesome so I [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► i don't know i mean it's i should i [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► should be wary of getting burned again [TS]

00:26:53 ◼   ► but i find it hard to believe that I [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► won't be there on opening night I think [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► it's universally positive because I at [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► the prequels really just like severed [TS]

00:27:05 ◼   ► any relationship I had like that that [TS]

00:27:08 ◼   ► was that was the cutoff point that [TS]

00:27:10 ◼   ► isolated my three star wars movies from [TS]

00:27:12 ◼   ► the rest of the universe and now i'm [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► just so happy to have as many other [TS]

00:27:16 ◼   ► people have said that I always assumed [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► that to wait for George looks to die [TS]

00:27:19 ◼   ► before this with him I want someone else [TS]

00:27:21 ◼   ► to be able to do stuff in the universe [TS]

00:27:23 ◼   ► and i have no attachment like it's not [TS]

00:27:25 ◼   ► like the Phantom Menace like I'm I'm [TS]

00:27:27 ◼   ► totally psyched for new movies not [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► because I'm not attached i'm not like oh [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► man this again because I know it's not [TS]

00:27:32 ◼   ► going to be the best movie ever like I'm [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► bargaining at this point like I hope [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► it's at least as good as JJ Abrams Star [TS]

00:27:37 ◼   ► Trek and it won't lessen the other [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► movies to me anything like that like [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► it's just it's totally divorced and [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► totally separate but there are so many [TS]

00:27:43 ◼   ► possibilities and of course the other [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► one that I'm excited about is the [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► possibility of having you know blu-ray [TS]

00:27:49 ◼   ► version of the theory releases put out [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► right but but it looks like that the [TS]

00:27:54 ◼   ► star trek is the doomsday scenario where [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► they just make movie after movie and [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► then just become increasingly terrible [TS]

00:27:58 ◼   ► and just becomes a mess but so fine like [TS]

00:28:00 ◼   ► if you might really want to do that it's [TS]

00:28:02 ◼   ► kind of disappointing but i'm not i'm [TS]

00:28:03 ◼   ► not attached to it anymore like that [TS]

00:28:04 ◼   ► I've I bet is that there's a Chinese [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► wall between the three star wars movies [TS]

00:28:09 ◼   ► and then anything it's like expanding [TS]

00:28:11 ◼   ► universe I don't get annoyed about crazy [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► stuff happening expanding universe i [TS]

00:28:14 ◼   ► have no idea what's going on those books [TS]

00:28:15 ◼   ► I don't read them they don't bother me I [TS]

00:28:17 ◼   ► it was because like the prequels were [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► like [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► going to be canonical by the same guy [TS]

00:28:22 ◼   ► part of the same you know like it that's [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► why there was a heartbroken and because [TS]

00:28:27 ◼   ► we had to wait i don't know how many [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► years it was but it was a long time was [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► longer than damage live it was a long [TS]

00:28:31 ◼   ► time we waited a long time so that was [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► that was the most crushing entertainment [TS]

00:28:35 ◼   ► blow of all of our lives and nothing can [TS]

00:28:37 ◼   ► compare to that so now now I'm all like [TS]

00:28:39 ◼   ► thumbs-up I hope you don't make stinker [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► but if you do I go oh yeah they screwed [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► up try again so I i want to start sir [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► track again as an example that I think [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► might be encouraging John which is so [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► they made the original Star Trek but the [TS]

00:28:51 ◼   ► motion picture and Gene Roddenberry was [TS]

00:28:53 ◼   ► heavily involved and it was a stinker [TS]

00:28:56 ◼   ► and the studio basically kicked him out [TS]

00:28:58 ◼   ► of all creative control over star trek [TS]

00:29:00 ◼   ► to and future movies there and they went [TS]

00:29:03 ◼   ► on a bit of a creative success at that [TS]

00:29:05 ◼   ► point Roddenberry was involved with Star [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► Trek The Next Generation at the [TS]

00:29:08 ◼   ► beginning and they basically kicked him [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► out of control [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► by the end of the second season which [TS]

00:29:12 ◼   ► was when that show became noticeably [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► better so I I think there's something to [TS]

00:29:18 ◼   ► be said that there's some precedent here [TS]

00:29:20 ◼   ► for having the Creator step back and [TS]

00:29:24 ◼   ► having you know any any any Enterprise [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► huh that that is creative and has [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► continuity like this after a while you [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► know it's the same people telling the [TS]

00:29:34 ◼   ► same stories and you need a break and [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► you need a new perspective and starting [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► to sell me on Gary Lucas yeah so start [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► with it needed to go so I I'm really [TS]

00:29:43 ◼   ► encouraged about that because star wars [TS]

00:29:45 ◼   ► now has an opportunity to have that [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► creative refresh and like you said there [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► are so many people who are not just not [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► just like 20 year olds but people from [TS]

00:29:56 ◼   ► 20 to 50 who grew up loving Star Wars [TS]

00:30:00 ◼   ► who are incredibly talented writers i [TS]

00:30:03 ◼   ► mean i'll use doctor who is an example [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► to when they brought Doctor Who back it [TS]

00:30:06 ◼   ► was all the people who are professional [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► TV writers who loved it when they were [TS]

00:30:10 ◼   ► kids and we that the the movie industry [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► is full of people who love Star Wars so [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► you would think they have their choice [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► of incredible talent to rethink and move [TS]

00:30:20 ◼   ► forward with this franchise and you know [TS]

00:30:23 ◼   ► that's so exciting because i like you [TS]

00:30:24 ◼   ► John I thought that this was something [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► that you know when George Lucas died [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► somebody would say okay we can release [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► those original movies now [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► all because they were going to redo a [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► episodes 4 5 & 6 like that will still [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► happen eventually if we all live long [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► enough someone will do the reboot right [TS]

00:30:41 ◼   ► hope Empire and jedi-like and that when [TS]

00:30:43 ◼   ► they don't be sad and mobile now begun [TS]

00:30:45 ◼   ► in Chinese yeah probably will be ill [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► that's all gonna be a firefly crossover [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► you know all the cursing will be in [TS]

00:30:51 ◼   ► Chinese let's go well I mean if we can [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► extrapolate from this then we can [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► determine that Firefly will get remade [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► sometime in the next 20 to 30 years [TS]

00:31:00 ◼   ► writer but this was different i think is [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► that by doing this in trying to do [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► episode 7 8 9 they're actually trying to [TS]

00:31:11 ◼   ► lock in the original series because I [TS]

00:31:15 ◼   ► felt like if you go if you go long [TS]

00:31:17 ◼   ► enough because what they'll do is [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► they'll introduce new characters that [TS]

00:31:19 ◼   ► are young and exciting butter the [TS]

00:31:21 ◼   ► children and grandchildren and related [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► to the characters format instead instead [TS]

00:31:25 ◼   ► of well be the alternative is to just [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► remake them right i mean i-i think [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► that's a it's an interesting choice that [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► that and again to go to the star trek [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► path they do that for awhile and [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► everybody's too old and it's too tired [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► and then somebody comes in just as let's [TS]

00:31:39 ◼   ► just go back to the beginning and do it [TS]

00:31:40 ◼   ► again but i don't think they're I think [TS]

00:31:42 ◼   ► they want to extend this universe stupid [TS]

00:31:44 ◼   ► people who love the love the the [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► extended universe books and all that had [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► feel feel fear about this being kind of [TS]

00:31:53 ◼   ► crushing them out of existence [TS]

00:31:54 ◼   ► I don't know well I think there's a way [TS]

00:31:56 ◼   ► to balance it it just depends on how I [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► mean they mentioned in the conference [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► call that they got a pretty detailed [TS]

00:32:03 ◼   ► treatment of seven eight nine and [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► granted God knows how much of that [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► they'll actually use but the question is [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► how influence that is with the extended [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► universe and the extended universe has [TS]

00:32:14 ◼   ► always been kind of meta cannon anyway I [TS]

00:32:16 ◼   ► would love to see i would love out of my [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► mind to see Tim's and Thrawn Trilogy as [TS]

00:32:24 ◼   ► 789 I think that would be amazing i [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► think it probably won't happen unless [TS]

00:32:28 ◼   ► they recast the actors but you know see [TS]

00:32:31 ◼   ► Mara Jade on still on screen would be [TS]

00:32:33 ◼   ► pretty awesome from a you know from a [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► lifelong fan perspective but I don't [TS]

00:32:39 ◼   ► know it's I don't think it will diminish [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► the extended universe i mean people [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► there are always I mean there are [TS]

00:32:45 ◼   ► there were diaries and extended books [TS]

00:32:47 ◼   ► written for the prequels so clearly [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► there's going to like that that universe [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► is still going to exist if I doubt 789 [TS]

00:32:54 ◼   ► will write it out of existence but let's [TS]

00:32:56 ◼   ► not let's not put the extended universe [TS]

00:32:57 ◼   ► up on a pedestal i mean they drove that [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► pretty hard into the ground to a certain [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► point so you know I think there's some [TS]

00:33:05 ◼   ► things that are good and extended [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► universe I i also like tim jones trilogy [TS]

00:33:08 ◼   ► the first one the rest of the stuff you [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► wrote was mediocre at best but that [TS]

00:33:13 ◼   ► doesn't mean I kind of like the original [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► dark Empire comic like there's some good [TS]

00:33:16 ◼   ► stuff in there it's just but it's mixed [TS]

00:33:17 ◼   ► in with law stuff that is not good at [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► this point i read it would be many many [TS]

00:33:21 ◼   ► years I read almost all fit at this [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► point all the time you know would be [TS]

00:33:25 ◼   ► over right at me because because of the [TS]

00:33:27 ◼   ► difference in time unless they recast [TS]

00:33:28 ◼   ► which I don't think they would do [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► they're gonna say like with the first [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► trilogy you know this this takes place [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► 30 years 20 years probably it will take [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► place exactly as many years it's been [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► since when they saw the original trilogy [TS]

00:33:40 ◼   ► right yeah well in the notes on the on [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► the Star Wars site they say like others [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► about 20 years between trilogies which [TS]

00:33:46 ◼   ► you know unfortunately yeah the actors [TS]

00:33:49 ◼   ► have all aged out of that right because [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► as what i hear is gonna be 30 years [TS]

00:33:53 ◼   ► yeah and it's always more than that [TS]

00:33:55 ◼   ► because you know their supporters like [TS]

00:33:56 ◼   ► 27 the first 10 i'm just thinking since [TS]

00:33:59 ◼   ► since a return of the jedi right right [TS]

00:34:02 ◼   ► yeah so like you know even if it was [TS]

00:34:04 ◼   ► ii-in his early thirties at this point [TS]

00:34:06 ◼   ► now it's more like 35 years later right [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► and so well that's a hard life being a [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► guy with a vest running around its tough [TS]

00:34:14 ◼   ► life in ages joy one of those things you [TS]

00:34:16 ◼   ► might see them in cameo roles but I [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► think these are the guys you're gonna [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► carry this picture more picture [TS]

00:34:20 ◼   ► absolutely not no i mean this is this is [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► going to be that thing where you see ya [TS]

00:34:24 ◼   ► you see Luke Skywalker maybe at you know [TS]

00:34:26 ◼   ► as an older gentleman and he's in a [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► couple of scenes and people like who and [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► then you never that they'll be like [TS]

00:34:31 ◼   ► Leonard Nimoy in the Star Trek exactly [TS]

00:34:34 ◼   ► so maybe less but maybe last year [TS]

00:34:37 ◼   ► yeah hopefully they won't give him a [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► long confusing camels at 80hz no no [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► always in his sixties Carrie Fisher is [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► 56 i believe and Harrison Ford turn 70 [TS]

00:34:48 ◼   ► this year i looked it up earlier two [TS]

00:34:50 ◼   ► parts of camel or younger younger than [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► 60 however [TS]

00:34:53 ◼   ► unfortunately Nelson at a terribly well [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► thanks to reconstructive surgery at that [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► point yeah but I mean let's be honest we [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► don't go down the horrible path which is [TS]

00:35:04 ◼   ► they recreate them all as young [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► Holograms yes cgi version so i know i [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► don't think i don't let it get a good [TS]

00:35:13 ◼   ► that mean [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► well the bigger question is how do we [TS]

00:35:17 ◼   ► incorporate the star wars universe into [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► the Disney Princesses there there are [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► pretty common yeah and I later on we got [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► one yes we have that we're going to fill [TS]

00:35:30 ◼   ► that out a little bit we'll have a [TS]

00:35:31 ◼   ► little section for the in tomorrowland [TS]

00:35:33 ◼   ► it's gonna be a beautiful thing I there [TS]

00:35:35 ◼   ► already i need to our lair are you mean [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► Star Wars where yeah it's not it's not [TS]

00:35:42 ◼   ► out of the realm of possibility there's [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► definitely a zillion little minnie mouse [TS]

00:35:48 ◼   ► as Princess Leia toys already existing [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► my daughter's got princess layout toys [TS]

00:35:53 ◼   ► that are made by the same like this [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► company that makes the dolls with a [TS]

00:35:56 ◼   ► little rubber close if you seen these [TS]

00:35:57 ◼   ► random you're the only person might have [TS]

00:35:59 ◼   ► seen these they have little stretchy [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► plastic rubber close all the disney [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► characters milan and stuff like that and [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► they also make an entire Princess Leia [TS]

00:36:06 ◼   ► said I don't know if these are all [TS]

00:36:07 ◼   ► illegal or whatever but they're all like [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► the same type of toys already my [TS]

00:36:10 ◼   ► daughter has in her princess has been [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► all the disney princesses and Princess [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► Leia and Queen Amidala all thrown in the [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► sea [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► no this is something that made me laugh [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► today is that is that in other [TS]

00:36:20 ◼   ► circumstances a deal like this would [TS]

00:36:22 ◼   ► make people aghast because Disney who [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► would there there you know them the [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► merchandising and licensing and [TS]

00:36:28 ◼   ► everything they do and they bought this [TS]

00:36:31 ◼   ► this independent company and they're [TS]

00:36:33 ◼   ► gonna ruin it it's like well no it's [TS]

00:36:35 ◼   ► it's Star Wars it's not there's not [TS]

00:36:37 ◼   ► going to be with your licensing if there [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► were ever a more perfect place for star [TS]

00:36:41 ◼   ► wars the king of merchandising to [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► commercialize Star Wars uh [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► it's tearin shit figures of everything [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► 02 tuyos will become 3 toyota's yeah i [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► gotta say on a tangential note when I [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► was listening to the call today they [TS]

00:36:57 ◼   ► talked a little bit about video games [TS]

00:37:00 ◼   ► too because among other things a part [TS]

00:37:01 ◼   ► LucasArts right now and they're like I [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► heard them say we're going to focus more [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► on like social and casual games and I [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► was kind of ready to swear at them for [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► that because there are so many like but [TS]

00:37:10 ◼   ► they said videogame property's been [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► totally botched over the last 10 years [TS]

00:37:13 ◼   ► what they said they were going to they [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► were probably gonna license out the [TS]

00:37:16 ◼   ► console games and not because Lucas are [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► they have a strength and building [TS]

00:37:19 ◼   ► console games i think that's what they [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► said you know how let's get them [TS]

00:37:23 ◼   ► probably yeah right [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► why I'm just hoping I think just in [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► general as John was saying earlier i [TS]

00:37:29 ◼   ► think the the net positive of this is [TS]

00:37:30 ◼   ► just that you know to a certain extent [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► Lucas was just keeping everything locked [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► down in certain ways right and now [TS]

00:37:37 ◼   ► there's a lot more freedom all the [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► sudden and that freedom might be a bad [TS]

00:37:40 ◼   ► thing right here is bad things can be [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► done with it but it also has the chance [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► to be something positive and we've seen [TS]

00:37:46 ◼   ► what you know what the alternatives [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► which is either yet nothing or we get [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► you know gigantic pieces of crap so I'm [TS]

00:37:52 ◼   ► certainly willing to see what Disney can [TS]

00:37:54 ◼   ► do with what i want things for one [TS]

00:37:58 ◼   ► thing's for certain you're going to you [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► know pay a lot of money [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► what you gonna do that anyway you're [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► ready for you know it yet ready to buy [TS]

00:38:06 ◼   ► your star wars movies again guys [TS]

00:38:08 ◼   ► oh yeah yeah but again yes I don't see [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► another movie at midnight star wars fans [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► are happy to I mean happy to do that I [TS]

00:38:14 ◼   ► think especially I i do think it's true [TS]

00:38:16 ◼   ► that if they if they did the super [TS]

00:38:18 ◼   ► restored original classics it [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► ultra-expensive that trilogy blu-ray [TS]

00:38:24 ◼   ► thing they would sell a billion of Meyer [TS]

00:38:26 ◼   ► you know it's all those four five [TS]

00:38:28 ◼   ► hundred dollars and they'd still making [TS]

00:38:30 ◼   ► really yeah yeah and I wouldn't surprise [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► me if they if they did that that but [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► yeah there'll be more movies and people [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► go see him and I'll I'm with John I feel [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► like the bloom you know the bloom is off [TS]

00:38:42 ◼   ► the rose we lost our innocence with star [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► wars with the prequel so now it's like [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► all right you know more [TS]

00:38:48 ◼   ► sure that's more tries I'm optimistic [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► because that we've hit rock bottom I [TS]

00:38:52 ◼   ► think that's probably true and open [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► worst movies there will be worse but [TS]

00:38:56 ◼   ► eventually eventually but in in this [TS]

00:38:58 ◼   ► first in this first set I think [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► yeah i think there's a chance he hiding [TS]

00:39:02 ◼   ► too sensitive better right to ya like [TS]

00:39:04 ◼   ► they gotta know everyone knows right [TS]

00:39:06 ◼   ► like everybody it's almost universal [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► that that that people did not like these [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► woods above a certain age sure you know [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► and I I think you've got to be sensitive [TS]

00:39:15 ◼   ► to that effect and you know as a as what [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► was the guy who said on the financial [TS]

00:39:18 ◼   ► call today something about like you're [TS]

00:39:20 ◼   ► you know you're going to anger the [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► entire internet typically have been [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► there mistreating it we angry know where [TS]

00:39:27 ◼   ► joyful jubilant it's like Scott Forstall [TS]

00:39:29 ◼   ► using sorry that that's just another [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► podcast look but my point being you know [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► I think they know that there's [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► incredible last sensitivity and I think [TS]

00:39:37 ◼   ► enough fun has been made those are you [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► know of one two and three that they know [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► they don't want to go down that road so [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► I think you know if they're smart and I [TS]

00:39:47 ◼   ► think they whatever else you might say [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► about them they're they're clearly savvy [TS]

00:39:50 ◼   ► business people [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► yeah I think they're gonna think about [TS]

00:39:53 ◼   ► that you know when they're when they're [TS]

00:39:54 ◼   ► looking at how to put this yet this is a [TS]

00:39:56 ◼   ► four billion dollar investment for [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► disney I think they're really [TS]

00:39:59 ◼   ► financially motivated to make their [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► money back and they know that making a [TS]

00:40:05 ◼   ► good product is what's going to do it [TS]

00:40:07 ◼   ► and and you know I'm encouraged by the [TS]

00:40:09 ◼   ► fact that you know Disney buying marvel [TS]

00:40:11 ◼   ► we can argue about the quality of [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► specific Marvel movies but that they [TS]

00:40:15 ◼   ► seem to have had some success and some [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► creative success and we can argue about [TS]

00:40:19 ◼   ► the scope and then Disney buying Pixar [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► is another interesting example they [TS]

00:40:22 ◼   ► brought them both up in the call today [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► that where Disney is making these kind [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► of strategic investments in in companies [TS]

00:40:29 ◼   ► that have skills or intellectual [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► property that it's fascinating to see [TS]

00:40:32 ◼   ► that and and you know that you don't buy [TS]

00:40:35 ◼   ► star wars for four billion dollars and [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► you know Fox has the distribution rights [TS]

00:40:39 ◼   ► for the old movies this is really about [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► the future this is about disney saying [TS]

00:40:42 ◼   ► that star wars is a you know has a [TS]

00:40:45 ◼   ► future and it's worth four billion [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► dollars so oh by the way the muppets [TS]

00:40:49 ◼   ► also are owned by disney now so finally [TS]

00:40:52 ◼   ► all Muppets and other month like puppets [TS]

00:40:54 ◼   ► are under one roof [TS]

00:40:56 ◼   ► Yoda and Grover can now appear together [TS]

00:40:59 ◼   ► now I'd like that wouldn't happen so no [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► i didn't i put a link in the skype chat [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► room and the and the IRC chatroom it's a [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► link to the one of the old trailers and [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► from 2010 for the old republic [TS]

00:41:13 ◼   ► look yeah unfortunately that game turned [TS]

00:41:15 ◼   ► out great [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► right so this i'm ignoring the games [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► entirely and just saying the people who [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► put together the cutscenes to t is the [TS]

00:41:25 ◼   ► old republic but those guys make a movie [TS]

00:41:27 ◼   ► because they they have the you know it [TS]

00:41:30 ◼   ► is a runny nose like it was making game [TS]

00:41:32 ◼   ► I'm just saying let's meet the cutscenes [TS]

00:41:34 ◼   ► these kind of things [TS]

00:41:36 ◼   ► hint hint at a like you're like I'd like [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► to see the movie that this cutscene is [TS]

00:41:40 ◼   ► full from maybe you would like to play [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► the game the cutscene is pulled from but [TS]

00:41:43 ◼   ► they have the look the feel of a non [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► George Lucas Star Wars that i would be [TS]

00:41:47 ◼   ► interested in watching it's kind of like [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► the battlestar galactica reboot where [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► it's like a little bit grittier more [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► interesting and you know not too not too [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► obsessed with the fetishizing the things [TS]

00:42:00 ◼   ► that were good about the 70 series or [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► whatever like that when i think of a [TS]

00:42:04 ◼   ► good future of Star Wars I think of [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► these videogame trailers but and and I'm [TS]

00:42:09 ◼   ► worried a little bit about so the point [TS]

00:42:11 ◼   ► at which i gave up reading most of the [TS]

00:42:12 ◼   ► extended universe stuff was they started [TS]

00:42:15 ◼   ► this huge sort of push to do this was a [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► call like the New Jedi Order which is [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► this huge sort of overarching story line [TS]

00:42:22 ◼   ► that they did in the books for a while [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► and lets the it was already out of [TS]

00:42:27 ◼   ► terrible story line because it basically [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► turns Star Wars into Star Trek like [TS]

00:42:32 ◼   ► there are these aliens invading from [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► another universe and they were coming to [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► fight the Jedi and I you know I was [TS]

00:42:38 ◼   ► sitting there going this is this is not [TS]

00:42:40 ◼   ► this is not what's interesting about [TS]

00:42:41 ◼   ► Star Wars you know and also they killed [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► off a fairly major character in the [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► first book of that series at which point [TS]

00:42:48 ◼   ► I literally stopped reading about 20 [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► pages from the end after they killed a [TS]

00:42:51 ◼   ► character put it down and then did not [TS]

00:42:52 ◼   ► touch a star wars book for many many [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► years I was that angry [TS]

00:42:55 ◼   ► well but and so I mean to the point of [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► that somebody made the chat room and I [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► think George Lucas made on on in the [TS]

00:43:03 ◼   ► little video they released on on [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► starwars.com it's a big universe right i [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► mean the absolute 789 maybe the [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► continuation of the classic trilogy but [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► you know it is that the original stories [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► in The Naked City yes exactly elsewhere [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► right [TS]

00:43:17 ◼   ► elsewhere and elsewhere in that time [TS]

00:43:19 ◼   ► period and tell other interesting [TS]

00:43:21 ◼   ► stories using that universe right [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► oh absolutely i mean i think that was [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► would always intrigued me about the [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► possible [TS]

00:43:26 ◼   ► be the star wars TV show that took place [TS]

00:43:28 ◼   ► sort of you know more in the seedy [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► underbelly of Star Wars like that man [TS]

00:43:33 ◼   ► that sounds cool already bad bounty [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► hunter land is a bright center of the [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► universe is TV series is farthest from [TS]

00:43:38 ◼   ► think that mangoes that one but you know [TS]

00:43:41 ◼   ► what i mean yeah i know i got you mami [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► I'm not having that also one of the [TS]

00:43:45 ◼   ► captains Justin Rogue Squadron movies i [TS]

00:43:47 ◼   ► would watch that would be awesome [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► alright man yeah I want sucker for [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► anything without with back swings on [TS]

00:43:51 ◼   ► Tashi station that's what I want like [TS]

00:43:54 ◼   ► this year now laughing and panting like [TS]

00:43:57 ◼   ► cheers yeah except there's people there [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► and they're carrying power converters [TS]

00:44:01 ◼   ► around like man you can't get any better [TS]

00:44:02 ◼   ► places for power converters in taji [TS]

00:44:04 ◼   ► station [TS]

00:44:05 ◼   ► ya see what I want I want I want a [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► romance i want it called hold me like [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► you did on Naboo and I want it and I [TS]

00:44:15 ◼   ► want it yesterday [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► no oh first scene in episode 7 the [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► prequels for a dream and even wakes up [TS]

00:44:24 ◼   ► in bed sweating terrible terrible dream [TS]

00:44:26 ◼   ► wait so you're the beginning of seven is [TS]

00:44:29 ◼   ► the end of new heart [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► yes that was thinking something else or [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► maybe it's like autistic kid George [TS]

00:44:33 ◼   ► Lucas is looking into a snow globe [TS]

00:44:35 ◼   ► example actually planted that was in a [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► snow globe the first thing is the glowy [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► ghost of Yoda who hasn't aged because [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► he's a puppet speaking to a young Jedi [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► children around a campfire and says and [TS]

00:44:51 ◼   ► and that story which I've just told you [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► which is roughly the length of three [TS]

00:44:55 ◼   ► movies true is not and then we go [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► through what a relief i thought that was [TS]

00:45:00 ◼   ► really bad and then they begin the movie [TS]

00:45:01 ◼   ► begins the fanfare that won't be the [TS]

00:45:04 ◼   ► father's favorite American yeah that's [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► right yo begins with us seek yeah yeah [TS]

00:45:08 ◼   ► true is not and then they don't play the [TS]

00:45:11 ◼   ► full 20 Century Fox fanfare because all [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► feature meters will be distributed wha [TS]

00:45:16 ◼   ► I just need to know when you wish upon a [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► star instead I got someone happy like [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► you about the music when you wish upon [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► ever when you wish upon a star wars Stan [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► said you really liked dr. John Williams [TS]

00:45:30 ◼   ► did when you wish upon a star [TS]

00:45:32 ◼   ► you did it in Close Encounters so there [TS]

00:45:35 ◼   ► you go just probably it will just reuse [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► will just use old William scores will [TS]

00:45:40 ◼   ► great i just bought indiana jones two [TS]

00:45:44 ◼   ► but they've got a multi film deal with [TS]

00:45:47 ◼   ► paramount for those so it's unclear what [TS]

00:45:50 ◼   ► that means to say really bothered for [TS]

00:45:52 ◼   ► Star Wars that's what Tiger said today [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► was we really like this instance [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► not-not-not Howard the daughters no [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► Valerie ppl not willow not dark crystal [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► about me all those movies will get me at [TS]

00:46:04 ◼   ► some point you gotta you gotta know [TS]

00:46:06 ◼   ► right like the bottom p you know they're [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► gonna use it at some point because ways [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► to do it i like many years it'll be a [TS]

00:46:14 ◼   ► long time before they reboot like you [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► know India just powered the doc howards [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► i will take I will take that horrible [TS]

00:46:21 ◼   ► Howard oddly ruined that was really like [TS]

00:46:23 ◼   ► the end of my innocence [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► Howard the Duck once you've spoken about [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► Leah Thompson's career on this period [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► podcast but i have yeah that film really [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► kind of kind of twisted me that was a [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► Marvel property to so now Howard adducts [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► film and comic book properties are back [TS]

00:46:39 ◼   ► under one synergy Jason late energy hall [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► at long last you know that could be the [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► real story here [TS]

00:46:46 ◼   ► however the introductory reunification [TS]

00:46:49 ◼   ► theory [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► yeah that could be it could be a dark [TS]

00:46:52 ◼   ► gritty Howard the Duck it's coming [TS]

00:46:54 ◼   ► marvel's house that Howard the Duck [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► appearing in in Marvel's uh-uh next [TS]

00:47:01 ◼   ► movie with what's the one with Rocket [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► Raccoon it'll be it'll be your Guardians [TS]

00:47:05 ◼   ► already how the galaxy it will be rocket [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► raccoon and howard the duck yeah why not [TS]

00:47:08 ◼   ► why not [TS]

00:47:10 ◼   ► I'm with you wow so what have we learned [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► a thing we just calculated wildly the [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► latter and the numbers were storage [TS]

00:47:21 ◼   ► Lucas even uncertainty yet well know [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► that so that's exactly right that that [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► even the great mystery of the future and [TS]

00:47:28 ◼   ► what's going to happen with Star Wars [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► it's still one of those moments of kind [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► of giddiness of maybe something good [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► will happen to star wars because I think [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► there's a general feeling that it has [TS]

00:47:38 ◼   ► been a dark time for the Empire totally [TS]

00:47:42 ◼   ► yeah yeah well yeah well yeah I open [TS]

00:47:48 ◼   ► yeah [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► 2015 highlight my great regret is that [TS]

00:47:53 ◼   ► they couldn't have handled Lucas his [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► four billion in Ocean City New Jersey [TS]

00:48:00 ◼   ► yesterday haha is that too soon maybe [TS]

00:48:05 ◼   ► that may be wrong but I more than talent [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► of a battleship [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► yeah something yeah i'm just i was [TS]

00:48:14 ◼   ► imagining a scene like you know from [TS]

00:48:17 ◼   ► Goodfellas where where Jimmy Conway is [TS]

00:48:20 ◼   ► telling Karen to go into the two into [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► the warehouse to get the mink coats just [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► go back get all the sugar you always [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► just go down there that's your money is [TS]

00:48:28 ◼   ► going down there just cook just go down [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► there it's okay just go ahead [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► see I thought you were going with the [TS]

00:48:32 ◼   ► other one which is they ushered George [TS]

00:48:34 ◼   ► Lucas into the room there's a picture of [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► him signing with broad biker signing the [TS]

00:48:38 ◼   ► signing the papers and I come on in here [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► to sign the papers and goes oh no oh no [TS]

00:48:42 ◼   ► now that I think he deserves props for [TS]

00:48:45 ◼   ► giving it up before he dies i read [TS]

00:48:47 ◼   ► sitting on it for not for not like [TS]

00:48:49 ◼   ► saying i've got to hold onto this thing [TS]

00:48:50 ◼   ► cuz that's been his big thing that's [TS]

00:48:52 ◼   ► just stupid stupid lesson from the Rio [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► don't hold onto the nice guys but he's [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► taken isn't letting a disney's putting [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► George Lucas back in the vault [TS]

00:49:00 ◼   ► I think I think Kathleen Kennedy or [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► whoever else is sort of like in control [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► and she was made the Chairman because he [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► wanted to retire or co-chair of [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► LucasArts or Lucasfilm i think i think [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► somebody and maybe it was her said [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► George this is this disfranchise is huge [TS]

00:49:17 ◼   ► and maybe was Bob Iger I don't know this [TS]

00:49:19 ◼   ► franchise is huge [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► it has it has a life in the future and [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► you need to either decide to be part of [TS]

00:49:25 ◼   ► it or you need to just let it go and and [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► somebody kind of talk which I never [TS]

00:49:29 ◼   ► thought would happen somebody talked [TS]

00:49:31 ◼   ► sense into george lucas and said let [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► this go get your honor easy good to go [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► son [TS]

00:49:37 ◼   ► no you know what I think I think Lucas [TS]

00:49:41 ◼   ► had this in the works for a couple years [TS]

00:49:43 ◼   ► i I really don't think he was one like I [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► think he he just got to a point where he [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► was tired and didn't want to deal with [TS]

00:49:52 ◼   ► the fan hatred and didn't want to deal [TS]

00:49:54 ◼   ► with the weight of having to you know [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► produce and deal with Star Wars anymore [TS]

00:49:59 ◼   ► yeah okay but to his credit he didn't [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► sit on it right he said I'm going to [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► let this go and and and let somebody [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► else do it and let this thing live on [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► beyond me when he could have been kind [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► of mind early and said no no if I don't [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► do it nobody does it and George but can [TS]

00:50:14 ◼   ► we do to get you to walk out of here [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► today with four billion dollars in your [TS]

00:50:17 ◼   ► pocket for Instagram and we should say [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► that Kathleen Kennedy has a very [TS]

00:50:24 ◼   ► impressive resume behind her [TS]

00:50:27 ◼   ► you know we're talking about the woman [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► who executive-produced Raiders and ET in [TS]

00:50:31 ◼   ► Jurassic Park [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► I mean she'sshe's a frank Marshall's [TS]

00:50:35 ◼   ► wife i believe and she co-founded Amblin [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► yeah so I mean sheet she has some [TS]

00:50:40 ◼   ► credentials and Lucasfilm is not being [TS]

00:50:42 ◼   ► left in the hands of ? yeah yeah [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► again like John said that hardens me [TS]

00:50:51 ◼   ► that and the fact that they again as you [TS]

00:50:53 ◼   ► said you can [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► many of the Marvel movies were not good [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► but they sure put a ton of money into [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► those movies you cannot say that is the [TS]

00:51:00 ◼   ► cheap out and didn't you know didn't [TS]

00:51:03 ◼   ► have the courage of their convictions [TS]

00:51:04 ◼   ► they just put a ton of money into all [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► those movies you know the vengers alone [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► was like a hundred and fifty million [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► like and they made their money back [TS]

00:51:13 ◼   ► the middle and the end with my client is [TS]

00:51:15 ◼   ► gonna take it back after like you know [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► all the other ones but event y'know like [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► they did I think I i think every single [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► one of those movies was within 48 hours [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► back oh yes [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► yeah I think so no you know I did they [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► did you do not suppose yeah yeah [TS]

00:51:29 ◼   ► whatever they don't make back on the box [TS]

00:51:31 ◼   ► office receipts they will make in [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► licensing and then manufacturing well I [TS]

00:51:36 ◼   ► mean that's part of the problem [TS]

00:51:37 ◼   ► part of the reason for having these [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► properties yeah yeah the successfully [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► Avengers also then has this back this [TS]

00:51:45 ◼   ► backward glow on the other movies [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► because then people like the Avengers [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► and everybody wants to go see all the [TS]

00:51:51 ◼   ► other movies and suddenly instead of [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► having a movie that successful you've [TS]

00:51:55 ◼   ► got like a 25 movie box set that is [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► everybody needs to watch before they [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► watch it and I honestly my kids and I [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► watched all those movies because I knew [TS]

00:52:04 ◼   ► they'd you know I side seen the Avengers [TS]

00:52:07 ◼   ► in the seat theater and i want to show [TS]

00:52:08 ◼   ► to them and we went back I mean it works [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► it's actually kind of its brilliant so [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► you know Disney is going to do that [TS]

00:52:14 ◼   ► they're gonna put [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► they're gonna they're gonna take care of [TS]

00:52:16 ◼   ► the franchise because they spent four [TS]

00:52:18 ◼   ► billion on it and they wanted to do well [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► which is just going to sit through the [TS]

00:52:21 ◼   ► bad movies first but the Avengers want [TS]

00:52:23 ◼   ► first but 200 million dollars a good [TS]

00:52:25 ◼   ► right hand don't just don't throw well i [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► think by saying is explicitly than its [TS]

00:52:30 ◼   ► episode 7 that's what they're saying is [TS]

00:52:32 ◼   ► there they're not they're not gonna do [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► like a half-hearted like well we're [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► gonna do the boba fett movie now maybe [TS]

00:52:38 ◼   ► we'll extend their like no episode 7 it [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► comes after Return of the Jedi we're [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► doing a new trilogy and it starts in [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► that's kind of bold I mean they're not [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► they're not halfway doing it that that's [TS]

00:52:48 ◼   ► kind of amazing Mets that was really the [TS]

00:52:50 ◼   ► one thing that blew me away about today [TS]

00:52:52 ◼   ► is that is that their internet i had a [TS]

00:52:54 ◼   ► soft pedaling it right [TS]

00:52:56 ◼   ► yeah it's like boom new trilogy every [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► couple of years start in 2015 [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► wow wow see if they can hit those dates [TS]

00:53:03 ◼   ► of course [TS]

00:53:04 ◼   ► oh yeah well it's they got some time [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► they probably built in some wiggle room [TS]

00:53:08 ◼   ► there but yeah they got it they got to [TS]

00:53:10 ◼   ► get actors a director a script like just [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► I'd ever as far as we know they don't [TS]

00:53:15 ◼   ► have any of those things that he seems [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► like they would have announced they had [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► I mean they haven't had any of engines [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► together in an area screen in the garage [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► ok I mean they've heard handle it no [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► names from Hoboken there's they get this [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► done and they'll get this time in 3-4 [TS]

00:53:31 ◼   ► and it's gonna be tricky part of all [TS]

00:53:33 ◼   ► Marvel Entertainment has I mean what [TS]

00:53:35 ◼   ► they've done with the Marvel movies in [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► the past what five or six years they put [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► those out on an aggressive year and a [TS]

00:53:41 ◼   ► half two years schedule and not all of [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► them have been fantastic but clearly [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► disney can you know rifle up who they [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► need they've already got the script I [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► mailed it in this afternoon right hand [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► everyone start writing your spec scripts [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► and what color with it comes to haven't [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► had one in the drawer for 20 years what [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► color was the gray on and off it it'll [TS]

00:54:02 ◼   ► it'll be integrated stuff it'll be [TS]

00:54:04 ◼   ► beautiful and it will be spontaneous [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► it's gonna be great it's gonna be a [TS]

00:54:08 ◼   ► can't wait for it is how's that [TS]

00:54:11 ◼   ► yeah it's just you know and then you [TS]

00:54:13 ◼   ► know that they'll do principal [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► photography and about a week and a half [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► and then i'll spend three years on [TS]

00:54:19 ◼   ► special effects and it'll come out it's [TS]

00:54:22 ◼   ► gonna be wonderful and it was going to [TS]

00:54:24 ◼   ► give it to the old republic trailer [TS]

00:54:25 ◼   ► cutscene people all CJ you don't need to [TS]

00:54:29 ◼   ► there's you just need a script and a [TS]

00:54:30 ◼   ► little but exactly dressed for robert [TS]

00:54:32 ◼   ► zemeckis rated voices by the way yeah [TS]

00:54:34 ◼   ► robert zemeckis will do it and everybody [TS]

00:54:36 ◼   ► will have those creepy deadeyes flowery [TS]

00:54:39 ◼   ► dress [TS]

00:54:40 ◼   ► yeah it's not gonna happen [TS]

00:54:44 ◼   ► I want to think about a doubt this is [TS]

00:54:46 ◼   ► silly and we should just dunk it budgets [TS]

00:54:48 ◼   ► for talking about the the idea that now [TS]

00:54:50 ◼   ► the disney has bought them that opens [TS]

00:54:53 ◼   ► the door for our star wars to touch in [TS]

00:54:55 ◼   ► anyway with pics are I mean Marvel [TS]

00:55:01 ◼   ► doesn't touch protects our that's the [TS]

00:55:02 ◼   ► counterexample I another thing I thing I [TS]

00:55:05 ◼   ► see is I see less of it being used like [TS]

00:55:08 ◼   ► a picture is going to make a Star Wars [TS]

00:55:09 ◼   ► movie but i would be amused to see [TS]

00:55:11 ◼   ► something like a toy story short that [TS]

00:55:13 ◼   ► had Star Wars toys in it or something [TS]

00:55:15 ◼   ► like that I could see that you know [TS]

00:55:17 ◼   ► something like they just did this [TS]

00:55:18 ◼   ► direction help them right where they [TS]

00:55:20 ◼   ► have all the video game characters and [TS]

00:55:22 ◼   ► actually got a list video kicker well [TS]

00:55:24 ◼   ► now they own the Star Wars character so [TS]

00:55:25 ◼   ► now it's a lot easier to do things [TS]

00:55:27 ◼   ► girlfriends but pixar wants its own IP [TS]

00:55:29 ◼   ► and I mean do you don't see Captain [TS]

00:55:31 ◼   ► America new Pixar movie like they have [TS]

00:55:33 ◼   ► been crying but I don't think they I [TS]

00:55:35 ◼   ► don't think I'll do want early but i [TS]

00:55:37 ◼   ► think i think it would be it would be [TS]

00:55:38 ◼   ► cool if they did i'm gonna be surprised [TS]

00:55:41 ◼   ► to see Disney Animation do some sort of [TS]

00:55:44 ◼   ► shorts maybe an animated series but [TS]

00:55:48 ◼   ► probably not flexible but isn't I mean [TS]

00:55:50 ◼   ► who's doing who's producing the clone [TS]

00:55:52 ◼   ► war stuff right [TS]

00:55:53 ◼   ► who is that that's W be active so it's [TS]

00:55:56 ◼   ► an outside soon will that what will [TS]

00:55:58 ◼   ► happen is that that stuff's gonna get [TS]

00:55:59 ◼   ► brought inside and maybe that maybe [TS]

00:56:01 ◼   ► maybe the star wars animated stuff goes [TS]

00:56:03 ◼   ► to wall you know walt disney animation [TS]

00:56:04 ◼   ► but in that they said it was there they [TS]

00:56:07 ◼   ► talked about the disney XD network that [TS]

00:56:09 ◼   ► they're showing Ron animated series on [TS]

00:56:10 ◼   ► they mentioned that being a one possible [TS]

00:56:12 ◼   ► outlet so yeah so cartoon network may [TS]

00:56:14 ◼   ► lose all of this eventually because [TS]

00:56:15 ◼   ► they're good because of the corporate [TS]

00:56:16 ◼   ► synergy right but but that'll be [TS]

00:56:18 ◼   ► interesting because you know even if [TS]

00:56:19 ◼   ► that's not pics are making a Star Wars [TS]

00:56:21 ◼   ► movie if it's john lasseter and kind of [TS]

00:56:24 ◼   ► the pixar method being turned on to star [TS]

00:56:27 ◼   ► wars animated properties that could be [TS]

00:56:29 ◼   ► interesting it would be yeah it would be [TS]

00:56:31 ◼   ► really funny if pixar were to do [TS]

00:56:34 ◼   ► something like that but it doesn't seem [TS]

00:56:35 ◼   ► like that makes any sense at all so [TS]

00:56:38 ◼   ► right there they're gonna build their [TS]

00:56:40 ◼   ► own things [TS]

00:56:41 ◼   ► yeah i don't i don't see any any [TS]

00:56:43 ◼   ► touching there at all except for [TS]

00:56:45 ◼   ► attention maybe may be short but it like [TS]

00:56:47 ◼   ► I would be more more likely i think you [TS]

00:56:49 ◼   ► just like argues head in the background [TS]

00:56:50 ◼   ► of toy story for whatever right [TS]

00:56:53 ◼   ► sure why not right next to spider-man [TS]

00:56:57 ◼   ► and although once again getting back to [TS]

00:57:00 ◼   ► the video game trail like who stare dad [TS]

00:57:01 ◼   ► always wanted pixar to do something [TS]

00:57:04 ◼   ► outside their comfort zone a radar for [TS]

00:57:08 ◼   ► realistically animated star wars [TS]

00:57:10 ◼   ► universe story i'm just saying well you [TS]

00:57:13 ◼   ► might die if that happens you might just [TS]

00:57:15 ◼   ► pick my just mean pass out you might [TS]

00:57:17 ◼   ► just have a stroke in the theater I [TS]

00:57:18 ◼   ► United 200 million dollars radar picks [TS]

00:57:21 ◼   ► are Star Wars photorealistic people can [TS]

00:57:23 ◼   ► you imagine that happening i can imagine [TS]

00:57:25 ◼   ► that up [TS]

00:57:26 ◼   ► oh yeah i can imagine you imagining that [TS]

00:57:29 ◼   ► happen yeah i like to do what has there [TS]

00:57:34 ◼   ► ever been a radar animated movie sounds [TS]

00:57:36 ◼   ► like Fritz the Cat heavy metal [TS]

00:57:39 ◼   ► not only is it first it's like this just [TS]

00:57:43 ◼   ► got a little radar [TS]

00:57:44 ◼   ► no I don't think so that was the [TS]

00:57:48 ◼   ► animatrix that wasn't released as a no [TS]

00:57:50 ◼   ► it's a short thing but that would have [TS]

00:57:51 ◼   ► been rated R if it was actually I'd into [TS]

00:57:53 ◼   ► a full-length movie I don't like really [TS]

00:57:55 ◼   ► horrible final fantasy movie was really [TS]

00:57:57 ◼   ► bad [TS]

00:57:58 ◼   ► I was not rated r is really terrible it [TS]

00:58:00 ◼   ► was really terrible it was so any other [TS]

00:58:05 ◼   ► any other comments before we go about [TS]

00:58:07 ◼   ► this motivation making your sellers but [TS]

00:58:09 ◼   ► wait i don't know i still don't believe [TS]

00:58:10 ◼   ► it it's not true i still think I'm [TS]

00:58:12 ◼   ► getting myself it's not really what I'm [TS]

00:58:14 ◼   ► gonna wake up tomorrow I'll be a joke [TS]

00:58:16 ◼   ► episode 7 is not a I saw it on business [TS]

00:58:19 ◼   ► once i saw in business wire like a [TS]