The Incomparable

00:00:00 ◼   ► the incomparable number 125 January 2013 [TS]

00:00:10 ◼   ► welcome back everybody to the [TS]

00:00:11 ◼   ► uncomfortable podcast when you last [TS]

00:00:13 ◼   ► heard us we were midway through our [TS]

00:00:15 ◼   ► discussion of the lord of the rings [TS]

00:00:17 ◼   ► movies i showed remarkable restraint in [TS]

00:00:20 ◼   ► only making two episodes instead of [TS]

00:00:22 ◼   ► three or four or five or six like Peter [TS]

00:00:25 ◼   ► Jackson would do but we should jump back [TS]

00:00:27 ◼   ► into it so that uh so that I'm not [TS]

00:00:30 ◼   ► tempted like being tempted by the power [TS]

00:00:32 ◼   ► of the Ring the power of splitting [TS]

00:00:34 ◼   ► podcasts in two more episodes is strong [TS]

00:00:37 ◼   ► so too here to save me from the tip that [TS]

00:00:40 ◼   ► temptation are the members of my [TS]

00:00:42 ◼   ► fellowship indian taco is here hi Andy [TS]

00:00:44 ◼   ► your father wanted you to have this when [TS]

00:00:46 ◼   ► you're old enough I'm sorry about [TS]

00:00:48 ◼   ► ecology hmm i'm very confused now Dan [TS]

00:00:51 ◼   ► Moore and help me out [TS]

00:00:53 ◼   ► oh I'm just glad i got to sleep for a [TS]

00:00:55 ◼   ► couple hours before this we started [TS]

00:00:57 ◼   ► talking about the second part that's it [TS]

00:00:58 ◼   ► would be exhausting to do it all [TS]

00:01:00 ◼   ► everywhere in the world before we start [TS]

00:01:01 ◼   ► talking about this [TS]

00:01:02 ◼   ► no Andy I don't drive people see I don't [TS]

00:01:06 ◼   ► remember the shower only when the Ellis [TS]

00:01:08 ◼   ► the elves were still in the world then I [TS]

00:01:10 ◼   ► told you that this journey was going to [TS]

00:01:12 ◼   ► damage or destroy you you did not would [TS]

00:01:15 ◼   ► not could not believe me I know yaar my [TS]

00:01:17 ◼   ► fingers now o.o and that Hobbit that [TS]

00:01:21 ◼   ► habit i do not trust that Hobbit strict [TS]

00:01:24 ◼   ► see hobbitses that bugs body or column [TS]

00:01:27 ◼   ► rascally rabbits though it's Elmer Fudd [TS]

00:01:30 ◼   ► it's john syracuse hi John do not meddle [TS]

00:01:34 ◼   ► in the affairs of handy because he is [TS]

00:01:35 ◼   ► subtle and quick to anger [TS]

00:01:36 ◼   ► well you've got a million of its great [TS]

00:01:38 ◼   ► head that that's not going to be my new [TS]

00:01:40 ◼   ► twitter like description that's their [TS]

00:01:41 ◼   ► ego and cleanse leishman is also here he [TS]

00:01:44 ◼   ► knows Elvis and we don't [TS]

00:01:46 ◼   ► oh I'm sorry I wasn't paying attention i [TS]

00:01:47 ◼   ► was forging more brings up our want me [TS]

00:01:49 ◼   ► guys reason or no and you around if I [TS]

00:01:52 ◼   ► had a ring of power i would become [TS]

00:01:54 ◼   ► terrible and beautiful [TS]

00:01:58 ◼   ► if i had a good a hammer I'd hammer out [TS]

00:02:00 ◼   ► some rings of power you put those up on [TS]

00:02:02 ◼   ► etsy you get this big long story about [TS]

00:02:04 ◼   ► how you were trying to make these in the [TS]

00:02:06 ◼   ► roads but you just bordering this for a [TS]

00:02:08 ◼   ► supplier in China 11 i'm sick of [TS]

00:02:11 ◼   ► pretending for were made for the elves [TS]

00:02:13 ◼   ► nine were made for men and 15 were made [TS]

00:02:15 ◼   ► for SC the 15 million QVC got a shipment [TS]

00:02:20 ◼   ► of a hundred and fifty i like i like the [TS]

00:02:21 ◼   ► alternate version of lord of the ring [TS]

00:02:23 ◼   ► I swear or Gandalf throws the ring into [TS]

00:02:25 ◼   ► the fire the very beginning and it just [TS]

00:02:26 ◼   ► melts in these look right does its job [TS]

00:02:28 ◼   ► well done [TS]

00:02:29 ◼   ► unfortunately that didn't happen and so [TS]

00:02:31 ◼   ► now we need to talk more about the lord [TS]

00:02:33 ◼   ► of the ring now let's go shoot a [TS]

00:02:35 ◼   ► nine-hour shifts comedy with so treating [TS]

00:02:38 ◼   ► jerry not well one of the things that i [TS]

00:02:40 ◼   ► would say was a strong traumatic change [TS]

00:02:42 ◼   ► in the movies over the books and I [TS]

00:02:44 ◼   ► appreciate it and actually going back at [TS]

00:02:45 ◼   ► times in fact i did this when watching [TS]

00:02:47 ◼   ► it recently and checked the book to [TS]

00:02:49 ◼   ► remind me of the scene because the scene [TS]

00:02:51 ◼   ► in the movie is so strong is that in the [TS]

00:02:54 ◼   ► book Saruman is an important character [TS]

00:02:56 ◼   ► is often the background off to the side [TS]

00:02:58 ◼   ► he sort of another malicious force until [TS]

00:03:01 ◼   ► they actually confront him and organic [TS]

00:03:03 ◼   ► off will recall meeting with mr we know [TS]

00:03:05 ◼   ► he was reticent at the White council and [TS]

00:03:07 ◼   ► the hobbit era and whatever in the [TS]

00:03:10 ◼   ► movies when they decided they brought [TS]

00:03:11 ◼   ► much father but much closer to four and [TS]

00:03:14 ◼   ► made him the big villain as a proxy for [TS]

00:03:16 ◼   ► Sarang as you move through the movies [TS]

00:03:18 ◼   ► and I think it worked very well so when [TS]

00:03:20 ◼   ► they're climbing the mountain the past [TS]

00:03:22 ◼   ► of colorado colorado ass across the the [TS]

00:03:25 ◼   ► mines of moria below they're trying to [TS]

00:03:27 ◼   ► go across the mountain is opposing them [TS]

00:03:29 ◼   ► in the books [TS]

00:03:30 ◼   ► it's the mountain the mountain sort of [TS]

00:03:31 ◼   ► part of that sense of evil it's signed [TS]

00:03:34 ◼   ► so forth in the movie they have this [TS]

00:03:36 ◼   ► great thing of of Christopher Lee [TS]

00:03:38 ◼   ► standing on top of our of you know of [TS]

00:03:41 ◼   ► the our thang camera or thank Thor thank [TS]

00:03:44 ◼   ► it which is a North is beautifully [TS]

00:03:47 ◼   ► conceived of it is exactly how I thought [TS]

00:03:49 ◼   ► of it from the books and stay there and [TS]

00:03:51 ◼   ► stealing their instant orrible island [TS]

00:03:53 ◼   ► about over you know it [TS]

00:03:55 ◼   ► speaking of these words of power and [TS]

00:03:57 ◼   ► creating the storm that is traveling [TS]

00:03:59 ◼   ► across all of middle-earth to prevent [TS]

00:04:01 ◼   ► them across the past that's great movie [TS]

00:04:03 ◼   ► making is a great thing because you [TS]

00:04:05 ◼   ► can't just have in the fellowship [TS]

00:04:07 ◼   ► specifically everything is against the [TS]

00:04:09 ◼   ► rocks the trees the land the earth the [TS]

00:04:11 ◼   ► markings the orcs and in this to have [TS]

00:04:13 ◼   ► one malicious force and then I think [TS]

00:04:16 ◼   ► there's other elements as well we're [TS]

00:04:17 ◼   ► Saruman is directly engaged in opposing [TS]

00:04:20 ◼   ► them the the scene in row and row and [TS]

00:04:23 ◼   ► two towers where the garden is under [TS]

00:04:27 ◼   ► warm tongues you know control [TS]

00:04:29 ◼   ► essentially you seen this old man is a [TS]

00:04:31 ◼   ► wonderful this i think the most [TS]

00:04:33 ◼   ► evocative scene in the movie it's be [TS]

00:04:36 ◼   ► full and it's also a terrific scene in [TS]

00:04:38 ◼   ► the book and I went and read the scene [TS]

00:04:39 ◼   ► in the book and realize it's completely [TS]

00:04:40 ◼   ► different in many ways as Gandalf goes [TS]

00:04:42 ◼   ► in there he has his staff in the movie [TS]

00:04:45 ◼   ► and the staff is an important thing and [TS]

00:04:47 ◼   ► he's battling Saruman the movie Saruman [TS]

00:04:49 ◼   ► has essentially put a spell over theta [TS]

00:04:51 ◼   ► and he says I will draw you from him [TS]

00:04:53 ◼   ► like poison from a wound and does this [TS]

00:04:55 ◼   ► thing and then you sort of knock [TS]

00:04:57 ◼   ► ceremony you cut back to or thanks [TS]

00:04:58 ◼   ► either Monacan is asked come back there [TS]

00:05:01 ◼   ► when you watch the King become younger [TS]

00:05:03 ◼   ► and stand up and resume is sort of what [TS]

00:05:06 ◼   ► has been removed the and social event [TS]

00:05:08 ◼   ► and the book it's a more gradual process [TS]

00:05:11 ◼   ► of Saruman is not mentioned his words [TS]

00:05:13 ◼   ► may have poison but the King gradually [TS]

00:05:15 ◼   ► comes back to himself over the course of [TS]

00:05:17 ◼   ► a number of pages and I think of all the [TS]

00:05:20 ◼   ► things they did I think that's one of [TS]

00:05:21 ◼   ► the best enhancements because it's not [TS]

00:05:23 ◼   ► that Saruman becomes the focus of the [TS]

00:05:25 ◼   ► films but it's more like it makes sense [TS]

00:05:27 ◼   ► there are things in the book where you [TS]

00:05:28 ◼   ► feel like there's just too much evil in [TS]

00:05:31 ◼   ► too much sort of in coey action going on [TS]

00:05:35 ◼   ► and to have him actually directing it [TS]

00:05:37 ◼   ► and then for him to be defeated you have [TS]

00:05:39 ◼   ► this point well now we are now stepping [TS]

00:05:41 ◼   ► forward we're going into the might of [TS]

00:05:42 ◼   ► Sauron in Mordor now a wonderfully done [TS]

00:05:45 ◼   ► all that stuff kind of works in the book [TS]

00:05:47 ◼   ► when the whole world is against you like [TS]

00:05:48 ◼   ► this nameless evil where is it moving [TS]

00:05:50 ◼   ► you don't you when you met do a movie [TS]

00:05:52 ◼   ► adaptation you have to say okay we need [TS]

00:05:53 ◼   ► an actual antagonist we can't be in a [TS]

00:05:55 ◼   ► book you have plenty of time to describe [TS]

00:05:57 ◼   ► the evilness of the roots of those trees [TS]

00:05:59 ◼   ► and all that because not everything [TS]

00:06:00 ◼   ► being against you you can you can [TS]

00:06:02 ◼   ► actually convey that the trees hit men [TS]

00:06:03 ◼   ► for whatever is in the hit man because [TS]

00:06:05 ◼   ► you've got you down for narration [TS]

00:06:07 ◼   ► basically in the book you have the [TS]

00:06:08 ◼   ► writer writing stuff and you can [TS]

00:06:09 ◼   ► describe in the movie you either have to [TS]

00:06:11 ◼   ► have a literal narrator which is usually [TS]

00:06:12 ◼   ► death or you have to say well let's just [TS]

00:06:14 ◼   ► have an actual antagonist then we'll [TS]

00:06:16 ◼   ► make it Saruman so yeah that's that's [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► what you gotta do when you make [TS]

00:06:19 ◼   ► something a movie those are they made a [TS]

00:06:21 ◼   ► lot of good choices in the adaptation [TS]

00:06:22 ◼   ► but all those choices necessarily make [TS]

00:06:26 ◼   ► it different from the book because the [TS]

00:06:27 ◼   ► book it's not like one of those books [TS]

00:06:28 ◼   ► sometimes I read a book and I'm like [TS]

00:06:30 ◼   ► this could be a movie just take it right [TS]

00:06:31 ◼   ► off the page throw it on the screen it's [TS]

00:06:33 ◼   ► a movie boom is Lord of the Rings is not [TS]

00:06:35 ◼   ► one of those books at all i think we can [TS]

00:06:37 ◼   ► argue the Balrog is actually also [TS]

00:06:38 ◼   ► well-conceived because even though it's [TS]

00:06:40 ◼   ► that scene is nearly word identical to [TS]

00:06:43 ◼   ► the book they did the thing where you [TS]

00:06:46 ◼   ► don't see it as distinctly they didn't [TS]

00:06:48 ◼   ► say oh here [TS]

00:06:49 ◼   ► balrog you know we all know that from [TS]

00:06:50 ◼   ► dnd with a ball gag is I had the monster [TS]

00:06:52 ◼   ► manual let's bring one out folks [TS]

00:06:54 ◼   ► ladies and gentlemen the Balrog I think [TS]

00:06:56 ◼   ► that's one of my favorite scenes in the [TS]

00:06:57 ◼   ► movie is that you bring him out he's [TS]

00:06:58 ◼   ► still you can't see him exactly again of [TS]

00:07:00 ◼   ► spending on you like this poor old man [TS]

00:07:02 ◼   ► we've thought of his without his powers [TS]

00:07:04 ◼   ► like oh he can actually battle this huge [TS]

00:07:07 ◼   ► thing all rocky you know it's a great [TS]

00:07:09 ◼   ► that that was of my favorite part of [TS]

00:07:11 ◼   ► showing these movies to my son was we [TS]

00:07:13 ◼   ► have I remember I remember if we had [TS]

00:07:15 ◼   ► taken a break between discs or not but [TS]

00:07:16 ◼   ► of course you know so fellowship ends [TS]

00:07:18 ◼   ► and Gandalf is gone and everything and [TS]

00:07:19 ◼   ► two towers opened an office in the very [TS]

00:07:21 ◼   ► opening but somewhere near the very [TS]

00:07:22 ◼   ► beginning to terrorists like they take [TS]

00:07:25 ◼   ► you back to hey remember Gandalf falling [TS]

00:07:27 ◼   ► down the pit guess what he's falling and [TS]

00:07:29 ◼   ► he's next to this guy and that was that [TS]

00:07:30 ◼   ► that's how you know the Gandalf is back [TS]

00:07:32 ◼   ► and he was so excited to see that like [TS]

00:07:34 ◼   ► it's a reminds me the beginning of [TS]

00:07:36 ◼   ► castle in the sky where they show that [TS]

00:07:37 ◼   ► the girl falling off of the the airship [TS]

00:07:40 ◼   ► and the credits roll then they resumed [TS]

00:07:41 ◼   ► on her fall and also that you come back [TS]

00:07:42 ◼   ► to this movie and it's like guess what [TS]

00:07:44 ◼   ► he's fallen down to put that wasn't the [TS]

00:07:46 ◼   ► end of him falling down with the Balrog [TS]

00:07:47 ◼   ► it's a really deep pit and they're [TS]

00:07:49 ◼   ► fighting as they fall they're means that [TS]

00:07:51 ◼   ► was photo was having a dream which I [TS]

00:07:52 ◼   ► forgot until I saw the films that [TS]

00:07:53 ◼   ► they've struck that that he wakes and so [TS]

00:07:55 ◼   ► you don't you see him fall you see that [TS]

00:07:57 ◼   ► whole part and you get that emotional [TS]

00:07:59 ◼   ► resonance of the end of the film you [TS]

00:08:01 ◼   ► know the end of that part and then or of [TS]

00:08:03 ◼   ► the ghetto get enough said i should say [TS]

00:08:05 ◼   ► and then they break away so you can [TS]

00:08:07 ◼   ► often tell it later when he meets yeah [TS]

00:08:10 ◼   ► it is somewhere in the second movie like [TS]

00:08:11 ◼   ► if you had been waiting between the [TS]

00:08:13 ◼   ► movies but of course he's not waiting in [TS]

00:08:14 ◼   ► the movies he just we got to see the end [TS]

00:08:15 ◼   ► of our and then the next one like at [TS]

00:08:17 ◼   ► some point they show you like and it's [TS]

00:08:19 ◼   ► like resuming in progress that you [TS]

00:08:20 ◼   ► thought it was the end but like it when [TS]

00:08:22 ◼   ► people fall into bottomless pits like [TS]

00:08:23 ◼   ► well the bottomless when they still be [TS]

00:08:24 ◼   ► fine guess what he was still falling and [TS]

00:08:26 ◼   ► while he was falling he was still [TS]

00:08:28 ◼   ► fighting the rotten that was an exciting [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► scene [TS]

00:08:30 ◼   ► can we all at least agree that gandalf [TS]

00:08:32 ◼   ► the grey is way cooler than getting off [TS]

00:08:34 ◼   ► the way to as a giant staff opens but [TS]

00:08:35 ◼   ► again off the White has things to [TS]

00:08:38 ◼   ► recommend off the white is boring he's [TS]

00:08:40 ◼   ► too powerful guess when she's beautiful [TS]

00:08:42 ◼   ► and get off the grace to Bigfoot bigger [TS]

00:08:44 ◼   ► hippie yeah I love Gandalf the Grey he's [TS]

00:08:47 ◼   ► got character homespun close smokes a [TS]

00:08:49 ◼   ► lot of pot he's got he's got a fireworks [TS]

00:08:52 ◼   ► on the side he lives off of this like [TS]

00:08:54 ◼   ► okay [TS]

00:08:55 ◼   ► Gandalf the White has an important job [TS]

00:08:56 ◼   ► to do again dealing with geopolitics and [TS]

00:08:58 ◼   ► important Bigfoot off and get off the [TS]

00:09:00 ◼   ► great just want to hang out with [TS]

00:09:01 ◼   ► hobbits he's the Hillary Clinton of the [TS]

00:09:03 ◼   ► shower using his fireworks are neither [TS]

00:09:05 ◼   ► safe nor say Mandy the Wizards are [TS]

00:09:07 ◼   ► fascinating thing I think in the books [TS]

00:09:08 ◼   ► too because unless you read in the [TS]

00:09:10 ◼   ► background material they make no sense [TS]

00:09:12 ◼   ► in the books other like yeah we came out [TS]

00:09:14 ◼   ► of the west and we've been here a long [TS]

00:09:15 ◼   ► time and yep that's it we got some [TS]

00:09:17 ◼   ► amount of power but not tell you what [TS]

00:09:18 ◼   ► it's like I started reading the [TS]

00:09:20 ◼   ► wikipedia entry on the wizards and holy [TS]

00:09:22 ◼   ► crap is that confusing really the best [TS]

00:09:24 ◼   ► surgeon in a book in the book I get the [TS]

00:09:27 ◼   ► sense that the Wizards you know in in [TS]

00:09:30 ◼   ► the book they say the Wizards are not [TS]

00:09:31 ◼   ► humans [TS]

00:09:32 ◼   ► the Wizards are not writing the Wizards [TS]

00:09:33 ◼   ► our own rather race of of of people and [TS]

00:09:36 ◼   ► in the movies [TS]

00:09:37 ◼   ► it's just like the Wizards are guys with [TS]

00:09:39 ◼   ► powers right they're all there just [TS]

00:09:40 ◼   ► magic guys where they live forever and [TS]

00:09:44 ◼   ► they know their thousands of years old [TS]

00:09:45 ◼   ► and their powers are incredibly [TS]

00:09:47 ◼   ► inconsistent like you're half the time [TS]

00:09:49 ◼   ► you're like Gandalf do just like Wizard [TS]

00:09:50 ◼   ► this you know with this crap to take [TS]

00:09:52 ◼   ► care of it but he can whisper to the [TS]

00:09:54 ◼   ► butterfly which then works great Chinese [TS]

00:09:57 ◼   ► equals a damn hippie way you think he's [TS]

00:09:59 ◼   ► a pretty badass and then like you know [TS]

00:10:00 ◼   ► the than the witch-king shows up at the [TS]

00:10:02 ◼   ► end is like I'm gonna break her staff [TS]

00:10:04 ◼   ► can explore that a Booma no man can [TS]

00:10:07 ◼   ► defeat him then that was assured i had [TS]

00:10:10 ◼   ► to have a lot of progress that i read [TS]

00:10:12 ◼   ► that in Macbeth the fields of pellet [TS]

00:10:14 ◼   ► very nice the fields of Pellinor will [TS]

00:10:15 ◼   ► also in the trees from tons of Maine [TS]

00:10:17 ◼   ► woods [TS]

00:10:18 ◼   ► yeah that sounds amazing right the trees [TS]

00:10:20 ◼   ► come I don't know man born of woman man [TS]

00:10:23 ◼   ► born of woman in the trees will come to [TS]

00:10:25 ◼   ► forget what this is for Shakespeare [TS]

00:10:27 ◼   ► podcast save that for no no it's in the [TS]

00:10:28 ◼   ► believe it the home steep the trees come [TS]

00:10:31 ◼   ► to the home steep so it's just like [TS]

00:10:34 ◼   ► mcbath I'm sorry it's the trees of [TS]

00:10:36 ◼   ► burning wood come towards Dunsinane just [TS]

00:10:38 ◼   ► to get it right sign Shakespeare fans [TS]

00:10:41 ◼   ► are gonna be I know what any of them [TS]

00:10:43 ◼   ► hey I I got an idea let's talk about the [TS]

00:10:46 ◼   ► performances in this movie a good idea [TS]

00:10:48 ◼   ► Jason John Syracuse's suggested that i [TS]

00:10:50 ◼   ► do that that's a wonderful idea [TS]

00:10:53 ◼   ► it is John do you want to talk about the [TS]

00:10:54 ◼   ► performances together started when [TS]

00:10:56 ◼   ► you've got people in roles like this [TS]

00:10:58 ◼   ► like that the script for the most part [TS]

00:11:00 ◼   ► is set down like they're gonna have to [TS]

00:11:02 ◼   ► say what they're gonna have to say it's [TS]

00:11:04 ◼   ► going to be Lord of the Rings stuff even [TS]

00:11:06 ◼   ► the lines aren't right from the book [TS]

00:11:07 ◼   ► there's no really getting around the [TS]

00:11:08 ◼   ► fact [TS]

00:11:09 ◼   ► you're going to talk about magic and use [TS]

00:11:10 ◼   ► lots of weird words & hobbies are going [TS]

00:11:12 ◼   ► to talk about habits so it's like it's [TS]

00:11:13 ◼   ► what you do with the material we talked [TS]

00:11:15 ◼   ► about like you know Han Solo you know [TS]

00:11:17 ◼   ► saying laugh it up fuzzball and you can [TS]

00:11:18 ◼   ► sell that line is not a well-written [TS]

00:11:20 ◼   ► line but you know he could sell it and I [TS]

00:11:23 ◼   ► so I'm judging these people by how well [TS]

00:11:24 ◼   ► did you sell the kind of silly sounding [TS]

00:11:29 ◼   ► out of context Swiss cheese lines that [TS]

00:11:32 ◼   ► you were given did i believe your [TS]

00:11:33 ◼   ► performance um I'm not let you guys talk [TS]

00:11:35 ◼   ► about who you thought but I just want to [TS]

00:11:36 ◼   ► start with my least favorite performance [TS]

00:11:38 ◼   ► in the entire series this is kind of a [TS]

00:11:40 ◼   ► shame because he is the main character [TS]

00:11:41 ◼   ► Elijah Wood operatic I do not like him [TS]

00:11:44 ◼   ► totally agree i do not know how does a [TS]

00:11:46 ◼   ► good job at destroido I he's not a bad [TS]

00:11:49 ◼   ► actor he does his best with what he's [TS]

00:11:52 ◼   ► given but he just does not read this [TS]

00:11:54 ◼   ► photo to me and I don't know why he just [TS]

00:11:57 ◼   ► doesn't it's not it's not that it's not [TS]

00:11:59 ◼   ► that he for me something he was bad it's [TS]

00:12:01 ◼   ► just that he was not my feet up in a [TS]

00:12:03 ◼   ► movie weather so many characters that [TS]

00:12:06 ◼   ► actors that really managed to nail [TS]

00:12:07 ◼   ► things with Elijah Wood the only thing [TS]

00:12:10 ◼   ► that I didn't like is that ok he's gonna [TS]

00:12:12 ◼   ► get the easy at some point he reaches [TS]

00:12:14 ◼   ► down deep inside and he flips that [TS]

00:12:16 ◼   ► switch is ok and time to get my browser [TS]

00:12:18 ◼   ► my eyes and I'm looking at this and I'm [TS]

00:12:21 ◼   ► going to get my brows another one of my [TS]

00:12:23 ◼   ► scouts that he's got it Sam expression [TS]

00:12:25 ◼   ► he's got his ring expression like it and [TS]

00:12:27 ◼   ► the reason i really like him because he [TS]

00:12:29 ◼   ► has the he has the pivotal scene in the [TS]

00:12:31 ◼   ► entire movie where he changes his mind [TS]

00:12:32 ◼   ► about the ring and by that point I was [TS]

00:12:34 ◼   ► like I just shot on here I don't believe [TS]

00:12:37 ◼   ► that you've changed your mind or that [TS]

00:12:39 ◼   ► you've struggled with this ring at all [TS]

00:12:40 ◼   ► it's so heavy oh is it [TS]

00:12:42 ◼   ► I mean it's just he just and it really [TS]

00:12:44 ◼   ► really hurts me because that part of the [TS]

00:12:46 ◼   ► books sam and frodo going through more [TS]

00:12:47 ◼   ► on doing that thing works for me in the [TS]

00:12:49 ◼   ► book and I don't like him in the movie [TS]

00:12:52 ◼   ► I don't know if I agree with that [TS]

00:12:53 ◼   ► entirely i think that he and sean astin [TS]

00:12:55 ◼   ► managed to pull out some some otherwise [TS]

00:12:57 ◼   ► some scenes that we've all agreed are [TS]

00:12:59 ◼   ► kind of dull and boring you know it yes [TS]

00:13:01 ◼   ► he's not he's not giving the most [TS]

00:13:03 ◼   ► interesting material to work with and [TS]

00:13:04 ◼   ► his role is basically that of martyr for [TS]

00:13:06 ◼   ► the second two books especially [TS]

00:13:08 ◼   ► pronounced Mordor no way at the bottom [TS]

00:13:11 ◼   ► are thorns [TS]

00:13:13 ◼   ► for everybody he does he has he only has [TS]

00:13:16 ◼   ► he's like the kristen stewart in this [TS]

00:13:18 ◼   ► movie he only had a few naughty Matt's [TS]

00:13:20 ◼   ► pretty that's pretty rough man you may [TS]

00:13:22 ◼   ► already be seeing have just one [TS]

00:13:24 ◼   ► expression he's like 4 i'm gonna agree I [TS]

00:13:26 ◼   ► agree with John i was so tired I'd [TS]

00:13:27 ◼   ► forgotten and i don't think i'd watch [TS]

00:13:29 ◼   ► the whole sequence for a couple years [TS]

00:13:31 ◼   ► and I forgotten how much I just blank [TS]

00:13:33 ◼   ► out on Elijah Wood ways instead on [TS]

00:13:35 ◼   ► screen because he's got the sloggi [TS]

00:13:37 ◼   ► scenes and he's just I don't know I its [TS]

00:13:40 ◼   ► photo is stronger in the books and I [TS]

00:13:42 ◼   ► think it works but it has to be strong [TS]

00:13:43 ◼   ► enough yeah because you have to see his [TS]

00:13:45 ◼   ► strength away from you have to see him [TS]

00:13:47 ◼   ► lose instead of Weathertop he [TS]

00:13:49 ◼   ► practically gives up the fight or his [TS]

00:13:51 ◼   ► eyes rolled back in his head again and [TS]

00:13:52 ◼   ► he puts the ring on your like if it's [TS]

00:13:54 ◼   ► that easy he doesn't get to Mordor you [TS]

00:13:56 ◼   ► just seem awfully weak and that scene [TS]

00:13:57 ◼   ► right yeah and and the two of them like [TS]

00:14:00 ◼   ► Sam Sam holds up his weight more than [TS]

00:14:02 ◼   ► Frodo and the same photo relationship in [TS]

00:14:04 ◼   ► the movie but even I mean he does his [TS]

00:14:06 ◼   ► gimmick his performance a little gamey [TS]

00:14:08 ◼   ► to what's-his-name sean astin anybody [TS]

00:14:10 ◼   ► does better than photo of the two of [TS]

00:14:12 ◼   ► them like they're they're such a tough [TS]

00:14:14 ◼   ► little like tough little plumbers and in [TS]

00:14:17 ◼   ► the book and in the movies they're just [TS]

00:14:19 ◼   ► two guys so so whatever so who's your [TS]

00:14:23 ◼   ► favorite I'm not favorite performances [TS]

00:14:25 ◼   ► from other people [TS]

00:14:26 ◼   ► I'd say favorite is a I think Viggo [TS]

00:14:28 ◼   ► Mortensen oh yeah I loved him sir he [TS]

00:14:31 ◼   ► certainly commits to that role yet again [TS]

00:14:33 ◼   ► that is that he had that man is a method [TS]

00:14:35 ◼   ► actor like he is he's like a Daniel [TS]

00:14:36 ◼   ► day-lewis right like I think he just [TS]

00:14:38 ◼   ► totally he totally embraces it totally [TS]

00:14:40 ◼   ► rolls with it LOL i wouldn't go Daniel [TS]

00:14:42 ◼   ► day-lewis maybe I'm just saying I i [TS]

00:14:45 ◼   ► think i think from an element of you [TS]

00:14:47 ◼   ► know you're talking about people who can [TS]

00:14:48 ◼   ► spew nonsense and sound like it's [TS]

00:14:50 ◼   ► actually they're actually talking about [TS]

00:14:51 ◼   ► something real [TS]

00:14:52 ◼   ► I think he does a great job with a role [TS]

00:14:54 ◼   ► that as a ton of jargon and yet he looks [TS]

00:14:56 ◼   ► like he just completely believes in it [TS]

00:14:59 ◼   ► but Peter Jackson decided that he was [TS]

00:15:01 ◼   ► the most relatable character essentially [TS]

00:15:03 ◼   ► for mainstream audiences in action [TS]

00:15:05 ◼   ► fantasy movie and and and so you know [TS]

00:15:09 ◼   ► aragorn's like the main character of the [TS]

00:15:11 ◼   ► movie in many ways hehe has I think he [TS]

00:15:14 ◼   ► doesn't have the weight the emotional [TS]

00:15:15 ◼   ► weight of of photos journey but he has [TS]

00:15:18 ◼   ► much more to do throughout is more [TS]

00:15:21 ◼   ► boring in the book that isn't [TS]

00:15:22 ◼   ► yeah he's very tedious in the book it's [TS]

00:15:25 ◼   ► a decision I mean when they decided to [TS]

00:15:27 ◼   ► make this make these movies and have the [TS]

00:15:29 ◼   ► big action scenes and all of that you [TS]

00:15:31 ◼   ► know the decision is that one through [TS]

00:15:33 ◼   ► line will be Frodo and Sam in the ring [TS]

00:15:35 ◼   ► and and column and the other one is the [TS]

00:15:37 ◼   ► the awesome adventures of a record right [TS]

00:15:40 ◼   ► and and and i think Viggo Mortensen does [TS]

00:15:43 ◼   ► a great job he does have a little bit of [TS]

00:15:44 ◼   ► personal struggle to like to give them a [TS]

00:15:46 ◼   ► little bit of personal struggle with [TS]

00:15:48 ◼   ► like do I want this crown and like do I [TS]

00:15:50 ◼   ► want to change i'll hit my elbow [TS]

00:15:51 ◼   ► girlfriend will do they even put him [TS]

00:15:54 ◼   ► puts the hand over the ring which I [TS]

00:15:55 ◼   ► don't think it happens in the at the end [TS]

00:15:58 ◼   ► of fellowship I don't think aragorn [TS]

00:15:59 ◼   ► never directly confront taking the ring [TS]

00:16:02 ◼   ► and he does not think it's a great [TS]

00:16:03 ◼   ► little if it's in addition which i think [TS]

00:16:05 ◼   ► it is it's a great little bit where he [TS]

00:16:07 ◼   ► everyone is obliged to come to confront [TS]

00:16:09 ◼   ► the ring in the movie [TS]

00:16:10 ◼   ► not everyone is obliged to the books to [TS]

00:16:12 ◼   ► say that's not mine i have its put in [TS]

00:16:15 ◼   ► front of me you know fair mirrors [TS]

00:16:16 ◼   ► rejection is very critical obviously but [TS]

00:16:19 ◼   ► aragorn's in the movie i think it's just [TS]

00:16:21 ◼   ► the same he took his chance he said ok [TS]

00:16:23 ◼   ► let's go to go away and moves on to his [TS]

00:16:25 ◼   ► own story [TS]

00:16:26 ◼   ► well and I think you give the fact that [TS]

00:16:28 ◼   ► they do a good job of though he is you [TS]

00:16:29 ◼   ► know a good-looking guy he also comes [TS]

00:16:31 ◼   ► across with it a certain amount of [TS]

00:16:32 ◼   ► menace and over cute especially in his [TS]

00:16:35 ◼   ► introduction [TS]

00:16:36 ◼   ► there's a certain amount of you know [TS]

00:16:37 ◼   ► scariness German I remember I remember [TS]

00:16:39 ◼   ► watching the the trailer for the first [TS]

00:16:42 ◼   ► time and i was looking at me like I was [TS]

00:16:44 ◼   ► kind of rough in my friend Jen who is [TS]

00:16:45 ◼   ► like dyed-in-the-wool diehard Lord of [TS]

00:16:48 ◼   ► the Rings fan was like come on all that [TS]

00:16:50 ◼   ► is gold does not glitter which is the [TS]

00:16:52 ◼   ► the target line from the from the other [TS]

00:16:54 ◼   ► poem and I think Viggo does a good job [TS]

00:16:56 ◼   ► of also selling the fact that that [TS]

00:16:59 ◼   ► aragorn in the movies is a competent [TS]

00:17:01 ◼   ► warfighter my keys [TS]

00:17:03 ◼   ► he's able he's he's he's not like a [TS]

00:17:05 ◼   ► pretty boy like like some people he [TS]

00:17:08 ◼   ► sells the fact that this guy is this is [TS]

00:17:09 ◼   ► the guy who would be dangerous with a [TS]

00:17:11 ◼   ► sword because he's been using a sword [TS]

00:17:12 ◼   ► his entire life and you don't want to [TS]

00:17:14 ◼   ► get into a fight with him like I really [TS]

00:17:16 ◼   ► believe the heel and it's not ceremonial [TS]

00:17:18 ◼   ► right that he is the match of five works [TS]

00:17:20 ◼   ► i totally buy that from his performance [TS]

00:17:22 ◼   ► because he's so severe and you know [TS]

00:17:24 ◼   ► seriously everybody that he is a little [TS]

00:17:26 ◼   ► bit goes into a little bit of [TS]

00:17:27 ◼   ► self-parody but again the things he has [TS]

00:17:28 ◼   ► to say those wonderful line that [TS]

00:17:30 ◼   ► wonderful 12 that I think is directly [TS]

00:17:32 ◼   ► from the books which is I think he would [TS]

00:17:33 ◼   ► look you know I don't think he's an [TS]

00:17:35 ◼   ► agent more [TS]

00:17:36 ◼   ► barbie is a tricky would it look they [TS]

00:17:38 ◼   ► would look fairer and seen Fowler yep [TS]

00:17:40 ◼   ► that's line right i think it's also [TS]

00:17:42 ◼   ► right from the book at it they drop [TS]

00:17:43 ◼   ► those in there and sometimes it's like [TS]

00:17:44 ◼   ► oh wait hey that talking i had a way [TS]

00:17:46 ◼   ► with words out back to the script so so [TS]

00:17:48 ◼   ► might my pick for a and I was just [TS]

00:17:51 ◼   ► trying to think who do I think is the [TS]

00:17:52 ◼   ► best performance in this in this movie [TS]

00:17:54 ◼   ► i'm super nerd he'll as made and I think [TS]

00:17:58 ◼   ► partially this is because he's got a [TS]

00:17:59 ◼   ► really interesting story arc that he [TS]

00:18:02 ◼   ► begins this kind of he's been enchanted [TS]

00:18:05 ◼   ► by Wormtongue and he's all confused and [TS]

00:18:07 ◼   ► all but I i get the sense with him that [TS]

00:18:09 ◼   ► he has a you know he has a lot that he [TS]

00:18:12 ◼   ► has to think about and that i really [TS]

00:18:14 ◼   ► like that he he's a good man but he's [TS]

00:18:17 ◼   ► got a lot of responsibilities and he's [TS]

00:18:19 ◼   ► not entirely sure that the request that [TS]

00:18:22 ◼   ► everybody else is going is the bet he [TS]

00:18:24 ◼   ► has to be convinced that it's the best [TS]

00:18:26 ◼   ► thing for his kingdom because he's [TS]

00:18:28 ◼   ► concerned he knows what his job is he [TS]

00:18:30 ◼   ► receives resigned to death twice in this [TS]

00:18:32 ◼   ► ya series of movies once at helm's deep [TS]

00:18:33 ◼   ► and then he can and he agrees after that [TS]

00:18:36 ◼   ► say alright I'll go down with us other [TS]

00:18:37 ◼   ► place [TS]

00:18:38 ◼   ► yeah yeah and it's a it's a really [TS]

00:18:40 ◼   ► interesting character you know he's not [TS]

00:18:41 ◼   ► one of the main characters but you get [TS]

00:18:43 ◼   ► that sense of weight that this is a man [TS]

00:18:44 ◼   ► who you know first off he had this [TS]

00:18:46 ◼   ► terrible you know enchantment thing [TS]

00:18:48 ◼   ► happened to him but that he was a good [TS]

00:18:50 ◼   ► man before he's a good man again he's [TS]

00:18:52 ◼   ► really concerned about his people [TS]

00:18:54 ◼   ► he's skeptical of the whole the [TS]

00:18:56 ◼   ► obviously the relationship between Rohan [TS]

00:18:59 ◼   ► and Gondor has cooled over the years [TS]

00:19:02 ◼   ► right so he's like why should we [TS]

00:19:03 ◼   ► you know why should we take care of [TS]

00:19:04 ◼   ► Gondor if they don't they don't take [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► care of us [TS]

00:19:06 ◼   ► it's just it's a really interesting [TS]

00:19:07 ◼   ► performance and yes indeed he dies at [TS]

00:19:09 ◼   ► the end inter said and there isn't a [TS]

00:19:12 ◼   ► field and works I think it's because [TS]

00:19:13 ◼   ► unlike Gondor of Rohan is populated [TS]

00:19:16 ◼   ► gatineau in unison Gondor but it's like [TS]

00:19:19 ◼   ► it's like you know / DC it's like a [TS]

00:19:21 ◼   ► bunch of monuments but then I guess [TS]

00:19:22 ◼   ► tourists in ghost town is in the [TS]

00:19:24 ◼   ► mountains that strip for fair point in [TS]

00:19:26 ◼   ► the movies that was the weirdest thing [TS]

00:19:28 ◼   ► is given that they could have populated [TS]

00:19:29 ◼   ► stuff with CGI yonder has enormous [TS]

00:19:31 ◼   ► population is shrunken but Rohan has [TS]

00:19:34 ◼   ► fewer number of people but in the movies [TS]

00:19:36 ◼   ► they portrayed it as if Gondor was [TS]

00:19:38 ◼   ► totally depopulated which was alright [TS]

00:19:40 ◼   ► and that's why you feel about the [TS]

00:19:41 ◼   ► identities like he's he's responsible [TS]

00:19:43 ◼   ► for all these people they're all looking [TS]

00:19:44 ◼   ► to him and is on there on this week's [TS]

00:19:45 ◼   ► web tail and it's cold and they're all [TS]

00:19:47 ◼   ► die and you know we're gonna go to this [TS]

00:19:49 ◼   ► this keep and just hope the orcs don't [TS]

00:19:51 ◼   ► tell us in the night and you know i like [TS]

00:19:54 ◼   ► that performance I you know if there's a [TS]

00:19:55 ◼   ► lot of dignity and and and just wait to [TS]

00:19:59 ◼   ► to that character that I really like and [TS]

00:20:01 ◼   ► I'm reminded I'm surprised by watching [TS]

00:20:03 ◼   ► something know right because he's just [TS]

00:20:05 ◼   ► suppose with john noble who has a who [TS]

00:20:07 ◼   ► has a a tougher task if his just chewing [TS]

00:20:10 ◼   ► the scenery and you know I like John [TS]

00:20:12 ◼   ► Noble and some fringe and it's great [TS]

00:20:14 ◼   ► mall but you compare his his his his [TS]

00:20:17 ◼   ► stuff to Bernard hill it's like I'm [TS]

00:20:19 ◼   ► always pleasantly surprised by fade and [TS]

00:20:21 ◼   ► what an interesting and and [TS]

00:20:22 ◼   ► multi-dimensional character is that he's [TS]

00:20:24 ◼   ► a little more time you he does get more [TS]

00:20:26 ◼   ► time and he gets more time where he's [TS]

00:20:28 ◼   ► not completely just crazy and what [TS]

00:20:32 ◼   ► you're suggesting you wouldn't set [TS]

00:20:33 ◼   ► himself on fire and throw himself off [TS]

00:20:34 ◼   ► the wall it so it is actually rare in [TS]

00:20:37 ◼   ► lots of movies it's rare to see somebody [TS]

00:20:39 ◼   ► who you can tell that they that this [TS]

00:20:42 ◼   ► character has their own motivations and [TS]

00:20:44 ◼   ► they may be a cross purposes with a plot [TS]

00:20:46 ◼   ► and the characters that we like in the [TS]

00:20:48 ◼   ► movie and it's not that they're a [TS]

00:20:49 ◼   ► villain it's just that they they aren't [TS]

00:20:52 ◼   ► motivated in the same way and they have [TS]

00:20:54 ◼   ► to work out what they really think about [TS]

00:20:56 ◼   ► what's going on in that they didn't [TS]

00:20:58 ◼   ► really does that and Bernard healthcare [TS]

00:20:59 ◼   ► set off so I can get a really great [TS]

00:21:00 ◼   ► character his character is in this [TS]

00:21:03 ◼   ► product I think this is where Bernard [TS]

00:21:04 ◼   ► helped raise him so well and I think the [TS]

00:21:05 ◼   ► script serves and well is he's a man [TS]

00:21:09 ◼   ► he's a king is a leader but he's a man [TS]

00:21:11 ◼   ► among what he seems as you know God's [TS]

00:21:12 ◼   ► and legends there's the wizard there's [TS]

00:21:14 ◼   ► hobbits and elves and you know god no [TS]

00:21:16 ◼   ► then there's you know the the return of [TS]

00:21:18 ◼   ► the king is the guy who is the direct [TS]

00:21:19 ◼   ► descendant man of númenor this whole [TS]

00:21:21 ◼   ► thing in the book and then Bernard [TS]

00:21:22 ◼   ► humanize that's like he's like I don't [TS]

00:21:25 ◼   ► even know if I'm worthy to be mentioned [TS]

00:21:27 ◼   ► among you know my predecessors and he [TS]

00:21:29 ◼   ► finds that in himself even though you [TS]

00:21:32 ◼   ► know because he needs to for his people [TS]

00:21:33 ◼   ► it's a great job other other [TS]

00:21:36 ◼   ► performances to praise from people [TS]

00:21:38 ◼   ► cate blanchett i love k planchette [TS]

00:21:40 ◼   ► didn't she do all four scenes in in like [TS]

00:21:43 ◼   ► with the camera sped up so that they're [TS]

00:21:44 ◼   ► in slow motion no did she really she [TS]

00:21:47 ◼   ► doesn't actually talk like is that they [TS]

00:21:51 ◼   ► actually the way the way they shot for [TS]

00:21:52 ◼   ► seems to make her seem kind of ethereal [TS]

00:21:54 ◼   ► is a shot at with the camera running a [TS]

00:21:56 ◼   ► higher frame rate and slowed it down and [TS]

00:21:58 ◼   ► then she read up your dialogue but that [TS]

00:22:00 ◼   ► the whole idea was to make [TS]

00:22:01 ◼   ► seemed almost like out of step from [TS]

00:22:03 ◼   ► everybody else and that's why she's all [TS]

00:22:05 ◼   ► but what's funny [TS]

00:22:06 ◼   ► so what I'll say about that character is [TS]

00:22:08 ◼   ► she's pulled their couple scenes that I [TS]

00:22:11 ◼   ► really like i like where she she [TS]

00:22:13 ◼   ► basically says if i take the ring I you [TS]

00:22:15 ◼   ► know you think I'm all pretty and [TS]

00:22:16 ◼   ► wonderful but i would be a terrible [TS]

00:22:17 ◼   ► terrible we were right the end she also [TS]

00:22:21 ◼   ► gives her her scene with gimli where [TS]

00:22:24 ◼   ► he's you know talk about stupid else [TS]

00:22:26 ◼   ► they don't know and then he stole my [TS]

00:22:27 ◼   ► lady you're so beautiful and she gives [TS]

00:22:29 ◼   ► him [TS]

00:22:30 ◼   ► it turns out she gives him 13 her hair's [TS]

00:22:34 ◼   ► me he asks he asks for it that's what he [TS]

00:22:37 ◼   ► wants when he was one she gives him [TS]

00:22:38 ◼   ► three right but that that's really sweet [TS]

00:22:40 ◼   ► scene and it's funny because it that [TS]

00:22:42 ◼   ► character [TS]

00:22:43 ◼   ► those are the little notes that you get [TS]

00:22:45 ◼   ► that fill out that character because she [TS]

00:22:47 ◼   ► doesn't have a lot to do i also see from [TS]

00:22:49 ◼   ► for me as a super geek well it you know [TS]

00:22:51 ◼   ► an electric performance quite a bit i [TS]

00:22:53 ◼   ► thought they may try to to put her in I [TS]

00:22:55 ◼   ► mean she becomes the connective tissue [TS]

00:22:57 ◼   ► and then issues a narrator for the [TS]

00:22:59 ◼   ► opening bit and fellowship of the rings [TS]

00:23:00 ◼   ► which is and they use her character [TS]

00:23:03 ◼   ► better i think to enhance the fact that [TS]

00:23:04 ◼   ► there's no more than one woman in the [TS]

00:23:06 ◼   ► movies which is hard to see Chiefs all [TS]

00:23:09 ◼   ► over the place and using a bit in the [TS]

00:23:11 ◼   ► hobbit I think that way there are three [TS]

00:23:12 ◼   ► as well there are three words for there [TS]

00:23:14 ◼   ► are three wins a win [TS]

00:23:15 ◼   ► galadriel and our went up our when live [TS]

00:23:20 ◼   ► for one and uh but I thought I thought [TS]

00:23:23 ◼   ► she got the tone just right is that [TS]

00:23:25 ◼   ► there's this odd thing about the elves [TS]

00:23:27 ◼   ► have reserved essentially three kingdoms [TS]

00:23:30 ◼   ► we only see two of them and where [TS]

00:23:32 ◼   ► everything is in the past they should [TS]

00:23:34 ◼   ► rivendell that way they shoot shoot my [TS]

00:23:38 ◼   ► camera team of it they shoot lorien that [TS]

00:23:41 ◼   ► way as well or in that it looks like [TS]

00:23:43 ◼   ► it's out of keeping and they make her [TS]

00:23:45 ◼   ► even more ethereal but then she's [TS]

00:23:47 ◼   ► brought the earth she's given that [TS]

00:23:48 ◼   ► moment and I thought planets performance [TS]

00:23:51 ◼   ► of that was great as a super geek super [TS]

00:23:53 ◼   ► talking pan that is something that is [TS]

00:23:55 ◼   ► deeply rooted that moment is traced back [TS]

00:23:57 ◼   ► when she turns down the ring is traced [TS]

00:23:59 ◼   ► back to practically the the early [TS]

00:24:01 ◼   ► history that token set in that she's a [TS]

00:24:04 ◼   ► descendant of you know someone who [TS]

00:24:06 ◼   ► basically caused the elves to leave who [TS]

00:24:08 ◼   ► allowed the great evil to come in the [TS]

00:24:10 ◼   ► middle earth and her moment of rejecting [TS]

00:24:12 ◼   ► that in the book is one of the key [TS]

00:24:14 ◼   ► moments I think [TS]

00:24:15 ◼   ► he played the scene well I think she [TS]

00:24:16 ◼   ► played it well and it comes across as [TS]

00:24:18 ◼   ► being something more than just know she [TS]

00:24:20 ◼   ► turned on the ring like everybody else [TS]

00:24:21 ◼   ► does I will diminish that's what she [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► says this [TS]

00:24:24 ◼   ► yes she's gonna go in the West going to [TS]

00:24:26 ◼   ► the west and remain Galadriel another [TS]

00:24:28 ◼   ► example of you passed the test [TS]

00:24:30 ◼   ► I feel like we skipped override and [TS]

00:24:32 ◼   ► miquelon who i think i dont i love i [TS]

00:24:35 ◼   ► love his performances get off to me he [TS]

00:24:37 ◼   ► is he's now you know forever burned in [TS]

00:24:40 ◼   ► my mind as Gandalf he is the best [TS]

00:24:42 ◼   ► headmaster of Hogwarts has ever had [TS]

00:24:44 ◼   ► so you are your ways are we got [TS]

00:24:47 ◼   ► criticism i want to know I i think is [TS]

00:24:49 ◼   ► great scandal is fantastic [TS]

00:24:51 ◼   ► he's great i mean i know that was one of [TS]

00:24:52 ◼   ► my moments of concern when you know they [TS]

00:24:54 ◼   ► started talking about filming The Hobbit [TS]

00:24:55 ◼   ► was like well Jesus you know because you [TS]

00:24:58 ◼   ► have someone else do this could you have [TS]

00:24:59 ◼   ► someone else play Gandalf and I feel [TS]

00:25:01 ◼   ► like for me it would have been it would [TS]

00:25:04 ◼   ► have been weird it would like he's just [TS]

00:25:06 ◼   ► so identified with that character in my [TS]

00:25:07 ◼   ► head there's another great job of of [TS]

00:25:09 ◼   ► inhabiting a character and arguably two [TS]

00:25:12 ◼   ► characters depending on how you view [TS]

00:25:13 ◼   ► grande off again off the gray and [TS]

00:25:15 ◼   ► Gandalf the White he regenerates it's [TS]

00:25:17 ◼   ► very doctor who yeah help it but it [TS]

00:25:19 ◼   ► doesn't you may he manages to do a good [TS]

00:25:21 ◼   ► job of keeping of keeping them distinct [TS]

00:25:24 ◼   ► well yet clearly the same character it [TS]

00:25:27 ◼   ► would have been a shame if he wasn't [TS]

00:25:28 ◼   ► able to do the hobbit and michael gambon [TS]

00:25:30 ◼   ► had to step in but you know no he it's [TS]

00:25:35 ◼   ► great it's a great performance and I ido [TS]

00:25:39 ◼   ► point I'm glad it was Christopher Lee a [TS]

00:25:41 ◼   ► sarah man and and not Patrick Stewart [TS]

00:25:43 ◼   ► because again i would be confused with [TS]

00:25:44 ◼   ► other movies but it's a great it's a [TS]

00:25:47 ◼   ► great performance and it's funny because [TS]

00:25:48 ◼   ► he's been in all the genres stuff nobody [TS]

00:25:50 ◼   ► is he's a great actor and you want that [TS]

00:25:52 ◼   ► he got older English you know English [TS]

00:25:55 ◼   ► experian actor with a lot of gravitas [TS]

00:25:57 ◼   ► and yet and he has that and he also has [TS]

00:25:59 ◼   ► all those really nice funny light [TS]

00:26:02 ◼   ► touches as the gandalf the grey before [TS]

00:26:04 ◼   ► he gets the staff up is but it's very [TS]

00:26:06 ◼   ► warm and he has a couple someone in the [TS]

00:26:08 ◼   ► chatroom pointed out the he gets a [TS]

00:26:10 ◼   ► couple good lines and as Gandalf the [TS]

00:26:12 ◼   ► White including in return of the king [TS]

00:26:14 ◼   ► the don't say anything about aragorn or [TS]

00:26:17 ◼   ► anything about the ring actually don't [TS]

00:26:20 ◼   ► really say anything at all so the joss [TS]

00:26:21 ◼   ► whedon dialogue section of the movie i [TS]

00:26:24 ◼   ► know we're not talking about The Hobbit [TS]

00:26:25 ◼   ► but there is a very little fun [TS]

00:26:26 ◼   ► moment which is he goes into Bilbo's [TS]

00:26:29 ◼   ► front parlor and knocks his head into [TS]

00:26:31 ◼   ► the the chandelier area just like he [TS]

00:26:34 ◼   ► does and I was like oh that's cute like [TS]

00:26:36 ◼   ► you're making sure we're watching that [TS]

00:26:37 ◼   ► we saw the other movies said alright I [TS]

00:26:39 ◼   ► like a lot like Christopher Lee too [TS]

00:26:40 ◼   ► although for a very different reason [TS]

00:26:42 ◼   ► because he's he's like just awesome [TS]

00:26:45 ◼   ► I think we're the reasons in mcallen [TS]

00:26:46 ◼   ► come up is because he's so good in the [TS]

00:26:48 ◼   ► role I don't even think of him as ian [TS]

00:26:51 ◼   ► mckellen yeah i mean i was thinking like [TS]

00:26:52 ◼   ► an added to its about a little portray [TS]

00:26:55 ◼   ► and don't know you don't stand back from [TS]

00:26:56 ◼   ► and go here enter the URL that's just [TS]

00:26:59 ◼   ► his that's what that's what happens when [TS]

00:27:00 ◼   ► you have an actress selling the lines [TS]

00:27:02 ◼   ► like I gave you my least favorite one [TS]

00:27:03 ◼   ► was Elijah Wood i'm not sure if he would [TS]

00:27:06 ◼   ► be my favorite but he's close because he [TS]

00:27:07 ◼   ► has to say ridiculous things to a he [TS]

00:27:09 ◼   ► manages to say every single one of them [TS]

00:27:11 ◼   ► and like in a way that's perfectly [TS]

00:27:13 ◼   ► fitting with the character when he [TS]

00:27:14 ◼   ► supposed to be like a rascal who loves [TS]

00:27:15 ◼   ► hobbits you totally if his rascally was [TS]

00:27:17 ◼   ► Earl of time between has to be dignified [TS]

00:27:18 ◼   ► and Gandalf the White you believe him in [TS]

00:27:20 ◼   ► that rolling at every stage like that [TS]

00:27:22 ◼   ► doesn't seem like he's playing a role we [TS]

00:27:24 ◼   ► don't we don't see his acting even when [TS]

00:27:26 ◼   ► he says that crazy thing in Moorea which [TS]

00:27:28 ◼   ► is a great scene one of the many great [TS]

00:27:29 ◼   ► scenes was like I am the keeper of the [TS]

00:27:31 ◼   ► secret flame I let you know you totally [TS]

00:27:33 ◼   ► buy it which is not and then he does it [TS]

00:27:35 ◼   ► but you're like it's actually it's you [TS]

00:27:36 ◼   ► know that he's in the book you just like [TS]

00:27:38 ◼   ► coast of canada says in the movie he [TS]

00:27:40 ◼   ► sells it as he is reinforcing his own [TS]

00:27:42 ◼   ► believe he has to remind himself who he [TS]

00:27:45 ◼   ► is and then just to be able in the book [TS]

00:27:46 ◼   ► in the lines are fly you fools [TS]

00:27:48 ◼   ► he says it like wow that was great it's [TS]

00:27:51 ◼   ► actually only that line still get a [TS]

00:27:53 ◼   ► chill out such a great thing as a good [TS]

00:27:55 ◼   ► actor he has a bright future in the [TS]

00:27:57 ◼   ► industry i feel like he does and in the [TS]

00:27:59 ◼   ► even the beginning when he's talking to [TS]

00:28:01 ◼   ► Bilbo about the ring and you know Bilbo [TS]

00:28:05 ◼   ► tries to keep it for a bit and you know [TS]

00:28:07 ◼   ► where to use is afraid Gandalf is going [TS]

00:28:08 ◼   ► to try to steal the ring for many does [TS]

00:28:10 ◼   ► the whole draw himself up Bilbo Baggins [TS]

00:28:13 ◼   ► right thats great lot of your country [TS]

00:28:18 ◼   ► yeah we have other other positive things [TS]

00:28:20 ◼   ► before we go back go back to the [TS]

00:28:21 ◼   ► negative the pound-for-pound to your [TS]

00:28:24 ◼   ► presentation because the volunteers are [TS]

00:28:25 ◼   ► ridiculous device in the books i had to [TS]

00:28:28 ◼   ► do a lot of pausing to explain those [TS]

00:28:30 ◼   ► things like well because ok so there's [TS]

00:28:33 ◼   ► magic in the books and there's lots of [TS]

00:28:34 ◼   ► people being able to have [TS]

00:28:36 ◼   ► visions and larger reality can see afar [TS]

00:28:38 ◼   ► and they cut the secret Elvis rings like [TS]

00:28:41 ◼   ► all this you know stuff permeating in [TS]

00:28:43 ◼   ► the great eye of sauron can cast design [TS]

00:28:45 ◼   ► see so there's all of this sort of [TS]

00:28:47 ◼   ► far-seeing already but the palantir is [TS]

00:28:49 ◼   ► the closest thing to like technology [TS]

00:28:50 ◼   ► unlike the internet yeah they've got [TS]

00:28:52 ◼   ► Wi-Fi on those crystal globe and that is [TS]

00:28:55 ◼   ► it really is is very internetting is [TS]

00:28:57 ◼   ► that it's a party-line dangerous party [TS]

00:28:59 ◼   ► line that's more like a security camera [TS]

00:29:01 ◼   ► this is this my first time I my first [TS]

00:29:04 ◼   ► time watching the movies since reading [TS]

00:29:07 ◼   ► dark tower and of course i said for John [TS]

00:29:09 ◼   ► i started to give black 13 immediately [TS]

00:29:11 ◼   ► which I had never made that connection [TS]

00:29:13 ◼   ► before I don't [TS]

00:29:15 ◼   ► yeah it's like it's like we said all [TS]

00:29:17 ◼   ► these things that seem like there have [TS]

00:29:19 ◼   ► been done before i thinkyeah in nineteen [TS]

00:29:21 ◼   ► world could write exactly make much much [TS]

00:29:23 ◼   ► later whatever clearly o modules do that [TS]

00:29:25 ◼   ► but yeah well the but the the palantir I [TS]

00:29:27 ◼   ► think the way they use them in the movie [TS]

00:29:29 ◼   ► was more effective [TS]

00:29:30 ◼   ► I mean obviously you can do it visually [TS]

00:29:31 ◼   ► I understand that but even the way that [TS]

00:29:33 ◼   ► I picture them being used that was sort [TS]

00:29:35 ◼   ► of i have to say my own imagination was [TS]

00:29:36 ◼   ► blender then what they did in the film [TS]

00:29:39 ◼   ► where they used you know they're sort of [TS]

00:29:41 ◼   ► burning flames of and they showed so [TS]

00:29:44 ◼   ► having kind of hijack the network more [TS]

00:29:47 ◼   ► effectively to is the original hacker he [TS]

00:29:49 ◼   ► hijacked that palantir network and [TS]

00:29:50 ◼   ► turned into his own ends but it's it's a [TS]

00:29:53 ◼   ► more effective thing you can't do like [TS]

00:29:55 ◼   ► in the books in any book at a magical [TS]

00:29:57 ◼   ► item you can you can imbue a boring [TS]

00:30:01 ◼   ► physical item with incredible medicine [TS]

00:30:02 ◼   ► and import and the only reason the movie [TS]

00:30:05 ◼   ► is visually unless you have narration [TS]

00:30:07 ◼   ► because you can't spend an hour talking [TS]

00:30:08 ◼   ► about the monitory Lian Yu [TS]

00:30:11 ◼   ► I know but like it's not you have to [TS]

00:30:13 ◼   ► change it for the movie like to convey [TS]

00:30:14 ◼   ► the same sense of power i think you can [TS]

00:30:16 ◼   ► get a lot of like again with the dark [TS]

00:30:18 ◼   ► tower there's a lot of things in and [TS]

00:30:19 ◼   ► stephen king books for example that have [TS]

00:30:21 ◼   ► incredible menace to them and visually [TS]

00:30:25 ◼   ► there's nothing interesting about that [TS]

00:30:26 ◼   ► because it's all about the description [TS]

00:30:28 ◼   ► and the the effects they have on the the [TS]

00:30:30 ◼   ► internal mental dialogue with people [TS]

00:30:31 ◼   ► that you just don't hear in movies well [TS]

00:30:32 ◼   ► and in some ways you know the I mean a [TS]

00:30:34 ◼   ► good counter examples of that is the [TS]

00:30:36 ◼   ► ring right like which is you know that [TS]

00:30:38 ◼   ► it has on visual effects in movies too [TS]

00:30:40 ◼   ► but yeah it does but that's not the [TS]

00:30:42 ◼   ► important part like that's so little of [TS]

00:30:44 ◼   ► the time that you see the ring on screen [TS]

00:30:46 ◼   ► i think is devoted to its effects are [TS]

00:30:48 ◼   ► it's you know it's special presidency [TS]

00:30:50 ◼   ► it's the the effect it has on the people [TS]

00:30:52 ◼   ► who carry it and people around it and [TS]

00:30:54 ◼   ► what makes them do i think is is far [TS]

00:30:56 ◼   ► more interesting as a as an artifact [TS]

00:30:58 ◼   ► right I can I say that a I know it's a [TS]

00:31:01 ◼   ► thankless part but Liv Tyler not only is [TS]

00:31:04 ◼   ► she the person who if you see your [TS]

00:31:05 ◼   ► on-screen you can go to the bathroom if [TS]

00:31:07 ◼   ► you're in the theater or even if you're [TS]

00:31:08 ◼   ► not in the theater on your couch chicken [TS]

00:31:13 ◼   ► arguing about the right now someone's [TS]

00:31:14 ◼   ► someone's watching it somewhere in the [TS]

00:31:16 ◼   ► world we posit no don't just let it [TS]

00:31:18 ◼   ► right slamming on Dan mentioned on a [TS]

00:31:20 ◼   ► recent podcasts that when m night [TS]

00:31:22 ◼   ► shyamalan's name came up in the screen [TS]

00:31:23 ◼   ► everybody boo'd 000 times that I saw [TS]

00:31:27 ◼   ► fellowship of believers out twice and [TS]

00:31:28 ◼   ► they're both times I saw in the theater [TS]

00:31:29 ◼   ► when Liv Tyler appears on the screen [TS]

00:31:31 ◼   ► everybody laughed and it's just because [TS]

00:31:33 ◼   ► like at that particular moment in time [TS]

00:31:35 ◼   ► when that movie was put out she was in [TS]

00:31:37 ◼   ► that particular place in pop culture [TS]

00:31:38 ◼   ► that seeing her as an like people [TS]

00:31:41 ◼   ► because he was overexposed it's like oh [TS]

00:31:43 ◼   ► it's live yeah and that laugh both times [TS]

00:31:46 ◼   ► when she when she appeared which is a [TS]

00:31:47 ◼   ► shame because it's not a bad performance [TS]

00:31:49 ◼   ► she does she does find it's just that it [TS]

00:31:51 ◼   ► was she just happened to be in that [TS]

00:31:52 ◼   ► place in pop culture that we couldn't [TS]

00:31:55 ◼   ► buy her is that person was great [TS]

00:31:57 ◼   ► it's a thankless performance though it's [TS]

00:31:59 ◼   ► a thankless reports because she she has [TS]

00:32:01 ◼   ► nothing to do and I don't think she's a [TS]

00:32:04 ◼   ► very good actress either so I don't [TS]

00:32:05 ◼   ► think she's a bad actors I don't think [TS]

00:32:07 ◼   ► she's even bad in this movie it's just [TS]

00:32:09 ◼   ► the subject matter is not it's not a [TS]

00:32:11 ◼   ► very good actress but that's the black [TS]

00:32:13 ◼   ► hole smoothie went with that because [TS]

00:32:15 ◼   ► that is a plot that I mean that that's [TS]

00:32:17 ◼   ► where it feels calculated to me it's [TS]

00:32:19 ◼   ► like we don't have it we need more [TS]

00:32:20 ◼   ► female characters we need two more [TS]

00:32:21 ◼   ► romantic elements we're gonna put in [TS]

00:32:23 ◼   ► this subplot up about their relationship [TS]

00:32:26 ◼   ► the flash-forward scene with their [TS]

00:32:27 ◼   ► babies and the his coffin and everything [TS]

00:32:30 ◼   ► I like that that was that that scene i [TS]

00:32:32 ◼   ► liked right there trying to add to the [TS]

00:32:34 ◼   ► movies that we have to have for [TS]

00:32:35 ◼   ► something to do [TS]

00:32:36 ◼   ► okay we can't just have to show up at [TS]

00:32:38 ◼   ► the end anyway we're married now it's [TS]

00:32:40 ◼   ► like who the hell is this [TS]

00:32:41 ◼   ► that's what I'm doing the book [TS]

00:32:43 ◼   ► practically that was like a nose like a [TS]

00:32:44 ◼   ► minority report moment where it's like [TS]

00:32:46 ◼   ► in the future if you stay you know he [TS]

00:32:49 ◼   ► gets married he has a job [TS]

00:32:50 ◼   ► oh my god i just always pictured the [TS]

00:32:52 ◼   ► voice-over of the part where the kid [TS]

00:32:53 ◼   ► wearing the necklace is like totally [TS]

00:32:55 ◼   ► story the elf stuff where it feels like [TS]

00:32:58 ◼   ► the old stuff you know again with with [TS]

00:33:00 ◼   ► with galadriel a [TS]

00:33:02 ◼   ► it feels like she's underwater in your [TS]

00:33:04 ◼   ► underwater and it's all this weird slow [TS]

00:33:06 ◼   ► kind of strange feeling that they do [TS]

00:33:09 ◼   ► that with Liv Tyler too and it just [TS]

00:33:10 ◼   ► feels like I'm being smothered to death [TS]

00:33:12 ◼   ► because you can't carry cate blanchett [TS]

00:33:14 ◼   ► can carry that often live Todd cannot [TS]

00:33:15 ◼   ► yeah yeah exactly right and so you know [TS]

00:33:18 ◼   ► it's not her fault and yet that that for [TS]

00:33:20 ◼   ► me I so I i guess not the performance [TS]

00:33:22 ◼   ► but the character and also good when [TS]

00:33:24 ◼   ► she's on the horse with a sword i buy [TS]

00:33:26 ◼   ► that are young 19 year old looking elf [TS]

00:33:29 ◼   ► under on you know it's one hell of an [TS]

00:33:30 ◼   ► entrance when they raided an enchanted [TS]

00:33:32 ◼   ► grotto in in it you know in orange is [TS]

00:33:36 ◼   ► wanting to her daddy that she wants to [TS]

00:33:37 ◼   ► date the boy that she wants to date like [TS]

00:33:39 ◼   ► it's too much of a cross over here all [TS]

00:33:42 ◼   ► thousands of years old you is it is is [TS]

00:33:44 ◼   ► this the second little mermaid [TS]

00:33:45 ◼   ► comparison you've made a kickass [TS]

00:33:47 ◼   ► characters well right yeah why don't you [TS]

00:33:51 ◼   ► kiss [TS]

00:33:52 ◼   ► don't be so much of your self just tease [TS]

00:33:57 ◼   ► LOL well it's not good it's just not [TS]

00:34:01 ◼   ► it's not only the song to encourage them [TS]

00:34:03 ◼   ► to kiss the alphabets kissing the filthy [TS]

00:34:05 ◼   ► humans that's the problem if they shave [TS]

00:34:07 ◼   ► once in awhile maybe you know a one is [TS]

00:34:09 ◼   ► an interesting character that I like [TS]

00:34:11 ◼   ► that actress to it I really marine auto [TS]

00:34:13 ◼   ► she's great is forced into this work [TS]

00:34:15 ◼   ► into this actually think that the [TS]

00:34:17 ◼   ► problem with the characters that she's [TS]

00:34:18 ◼   ► forced into this kind of ridiculous [TS]

00:34:19 ◼   ► pining over aragorn then I think I know [TS]

00:34:22 ◼   ► you didn't like them and i thought i [TS]

00:34:23 ◼   ► bought that because she really is [TS]

00:34:25 ◼   ► trapped in this bad family / kingdom [TS]

00:34:28 ◼   ► situation well that's true yeah [TS]

00:34:30 ◼   ► apparently officer dead her surrogate [TS]

00:34:33 ◼   ► father has been in a week on the throne [TS]

00:34:35 ◼   ► her brother has been killed another [TS]

00:34:38 ◼   ► brother because of fathers and sons [TS]

00:34:41 ◼   ► mother is bones McCoy her brother her [TS]

00:34:44 ◼   ► brother has been banished and is out [TS]

00:34:45 ◼   ► with all the other horse guys riding [TS]

00:34:47 ◼   ► around and Aaron comes in and like the [TS]

00:34:49 ◼   ► arrogant as a way out for her so of [TS]

00:34:51 ◼   ► course she's going to clean them and I [TS]

00:34:52 ◼   ► like the fact that clean doesn't need [TS]

00:34:54 ◼   ► anything because the only reason she was [TS]

00:34:55 ◼   ► cleaning it was like well freedom he can [TS]

00:34:57 ◼   ► lead me out of this life and and she [TS]

00:34:59 ◼   ► what does I'd really to believe that she [TS]

00:35:01 ◼   ► wants to be a warrior and stuff which is [TS]

00:35:03 ◼   ► not easy to pull off your supposed to be [TS]

00:35:05 ◼   ► like the pretty princess tiana supposed [TS]

00:35:06 ◼   ► to believe you want to go off to war [TS]

00:35:08 ◼   ► well I like that to do that very well [TS]

00:35:10 ◼   ► she just seemed sharper to me to click [TS]

00:35:12 ◼   ► she clung to aragorn I felt like for [TS]

00:35:14 ◼   ► longer [TS]

00:35:15 ◼   ► I would have liked to have seen her kind [TS]

00:35:16 ◼   ► of figure figure out just as an elf [TS]

00:35:20 ◼   ► girlfriend who put before sucking [TS]

00:35:21 ◼   ► mortality or yes right third right so [TS]

00:35:24 ◼   ► she should be like oh sorry [TS]

00:35:25 ◼   ► he encouraged her more though in the in [TS]

00:35:27 ◼   ► the movie and the book he's much cooler [TS]

00:35:29 ◼   ► and fairer to her and he feels bad from [TS]

00:35:32 ◼   ► the start because she can feel but she's [TS]

00:35:34 ◼   ► the human link right she is she's the [TS]

00:35:36 ◼   ► person he would marry and the movie [TS]

00:35:38 ◼   ► Aragorn is torn too yeah it would marry [TS]

00:35:41 ◼   ► her if she left if there are we didn't [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► exist [TS]

00:35:44 ◼   ► this is he would marry it's another [TS]

00:35:45 ◼   ► Kingdom will be the right thing would be [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► a good yeah [TS]

00:35:47 ◼   ► merging of the people it's actually good [TS]

00:35:49 ◼   ► match and he's torn over like do I [TS]

00:35:51 ◼   ► really want to do this elf thing I'm IPC [TS]

00:35:54 ◼   ► feels bad about like I'm keeping you [TS]

00:35:55 ◼   ► here with me instead of going west with [TS]

00:35:58 ◼   ► your family it's it's not [TS]

00:36:00 ◼   ► yeah it's not my favorite part of it but [TS]

00:36:01 ◼   ► i like that i really like that character [TS]

00:36:02 ◼   ► and she had stuff to do and is [TS]

00:36:04 ◼   ► interesting in a way that Liv Tyler is [TS]

00:36:05 ◼   ► not able she has not she got nothing out [TS]

00:36:09 ◼   ► is that no one picked the column because [TS]

00:36:11 ◼   ► i remember when the movies were first [TS]

00:36:12 ◼   ► out everyone was raving about columns [TS]

00:36:14 ◼   ► performance in motion capture and I [TS]

00:36:15 ◼   ► think you know cg is great in circles a [TS]

00:36:17 ◼   ► good performance and everything but yeah [TS]

00:36:19 ◼   ► what they have gone do in the movie [TS]

00:36:21 ◼   ► feels a lot more not one note but let's [TS]

00:36:25 ◼   ► say to note and the government the books [TS]

00:36:27 ◼   ► feels and more multivariate to me [TS]

00:36:30 ◼   ► easy easy you know he's a crack addict [TS]

00:36:32 ◼   ► so he really is all about crack that the [TS]

00:36:34 ◼   ► one ring addict [TS]

00:36:36 ◼   ► nothing not thats circus shouldn't be [TS]

00:36:39 ◼   ► praised for the job he did I just think [TS]

00:36:42 ◼   ► that the people process the idea that oh [TS]

00:36:44 ◼   ► well he got into the he got to the [TS]

00:36:46 ◼   ► special suit with markers on it and then [TS]

00:36:48 ◼   ► there is aimed the camera and they [TS]

00:36:49 ◼   ► attract matter then that is simply [TS]

00:36:51 ◼   ► basically dressed the model the [TS]

00:36:54 ◼   ► wherewithal these motions that really I [TS]

00:36:56 ◼   ► I think it kind of just diminishes the [TS]

00:36:58 ◼   ► amount of work for the animators put [TS]

00:36:59 ◼   ► into that character because you you the [TS]

00:37:03 ◼   ► amount of work that has to be done to [TS]

00:37:04 ◼   ► take that motion then I take the [TS]

00:37:06 ◼   ► performance data and actually turn it [TS]

00:37:08 ◼   ► into column is immense giving that [TS]

00:37:11 ◼   ► episodes actually that was a conference [TS]

00:37:14 ◼   ► with one of the lead animators on calm [TS]

00:37:15 ◼   ► years ago and she was explained to me [TS]

00:37:18 ◼   ► that well think that the the big problem [TS]

00:37:20 ◼   ► was that column is a crack addict who [TS]

00:37:22 ◼   ► weighs about 10 pounds he has no meat on [TS]

00:37:25 ◼   ► his bones whatsoever is andy serkis is [TS]

00:37:27 ◼   ► essentially [TS]

00:37:28 ◼   ► essentially an athlete with muscle and [TS]

00:37:31 ◼   ► bone and muscle and tissue and so what [TS]

00:37:33 ◼   ► the legs we had to make sure that we had [TS]

00:37:36 ◼   ► given these spindly legs that would sort [TS]

00:37:38 ◼   ► of move in with each other and like move [TS]

00:37:39 ◼   ► as though there's no flashes of any kind [TS]

00:37:42 ◼   ► that was preventing those those those [TS]

00:37:44 ◼   ► legs from doing things that no human [TS]

00:37:45 ◼   ► legs would possibly do and that's the [TS]

00:37:47 ◼   ► sort of this sort of maybe thinking okay [TS]

00:37:49 ◼   ► guess I'm stupid and thinking that ok [TS]

00:37:51 ◼   ► then just push record and then say okay [TS]

00:37:53 ◼   ► let's just drag this with this is this [TS]

00:37:55 ◼   ► capture file onto this model file and [TS]

00:37:57 ◼   ► then exported to iMovie good whose squad [TS]

00:38:00 ◼   ► for what yes that's what I think it's a [TS]

00:38:02 ◼   ► lot of people were praying at the time [TS]

00:38:04 ◼   ► was wow what a technical achievement and [TS]

00:38:05 ◼   ► it was but now it's going with hindsight [TS]

00:38:07 ◼   ► you can look RK technical achievement is [TS]

00:38:09 ◼   ► fine and everything and we've done such [TS]

00:38:11 ◼   ► a great job but let's just look at it as [TS]

00:38:12 ◼   ► a character for you pretend I don't know [TS]

00:38:13 ◼   ► how it was done how does that work and [TS]

00:38:15 ◼   ► the character I field is flatter than [TS]

00:38:17 ◼   ► like people like always [TS]

00:38:19 ◼   ► what an amazing performances yeah you [TS]

00:38:21 ◼   ► know he only especially with the the [TS]

00:38:25 ◼   ► really very it struck me watching the [TS]

00:38:27 ◼   ► blu-rays how pronounced they did these [TS]

00:38:29 ◼   ► Smeagol versus Tom split yeah like I [TS]

00:38:33 ◼   ► bought that the first couple times I saw [TS]

00:38:34 ◼   ► but now my car I like maybe it's just [TS]

00:38:36 ◼   ► watching them altogether my ok we get it [TS]

00:38:38 ◼   ► yeah they do what they do it maybe one [TS]

00:38:41 ◼   ► too many times but you know technically [TS]

00:38:43 ◼   ► it is I I think it's one of the one of [TS]

00:38:44 ◼   ► the most amazing cinematic achievement [TS]

00:38:46 ◼   ► of the last you know maybe ever write [TS]

00:38:50 ◼   ► the fact that this is a fully-realized [TS]

00:38:51 ◼   ► character I i still think you're over [TS]

00:38:54 ◼   ► him by the way talking about achievement [TS]

00:38:55 ◼   ► something like well yeah the original yo [TS]

00:38:57 ◼   ► shorty yes yes that's not what is there [TS]

00:38:59 ◼   ► any other yo what are you talking about [TS]

00:39:00 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:39:01 ◼   ► touche your puppet is great but I mean [TS]

00:39:03 ◼   ► that the fact that they they have a CGI [TS]

00:39:05 ◼   ► character and it is my kids how do you [TS]

00:39:09 ◼   ► think you know they did column and they [TS]

00:39:11 ◼   ► said you know they had fit my I think my [TS]

00:39:13 ◼   ► son said they found a very skinny man in [TS]

00:39:16 ◼   ► put him in a little suit and and no he's [TS]

00:39:19 ◼   ► from a computer entirely it its it's [TS]

00:39:21 ◼   ► amazing calling himself yeah he you know [TS]

00:39:24 ◼   ► he's a funny character he's a memorable [TS]

00:39:26 ◼   ► character there's no doubt about it i [TS]

00:39:28 ◼   ► mean tricksy hobbitses right that [TS]

00:39:30 ◼   ► happens all [TS]

00:39:31 ◼   ► yeah I bring I speak like Gollum [TS]

00:39:34 ◼   ► frequently perhaps I've said too much [TS]

00:39:35 ◼   ► but uh but he is he is a he has some [TS]

00:39:39 ◼   ► plot points that he does he needs to be [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► in [TS]

00:39:42 ◼   ► tagme Stewie the only thing interesting [TS]

00:39:44 ◼   ► happening in those sam and frodo scenes [TS]

00:39:46 ◼   ► for God's sake so I mean that there when [TS]

00:39:48 ◼   ► he has he has a tough job because he's [TS]

00:39:51 ◼   ► trying to like keep it interesting keep [TS]

00:39:52 ◼   ► the plate spinning and but yeah I mean [TS]

00:39:55 ◼   ► he's he's a he's like a comic relief [TS]

00:39:58 ◼   ► antagonist you don't know the other part [TS]

00:40:01 ◼   ► that's like that was bred to reef [TS]

00:40:02 ◼   ► playing as a pronounced to rephrase [TS]

00:40:04 ◼   ► playing in a hour we're going to [TS]

00:40:06 ◼   ► reference is playing in I don't know how [TS]

00:40:08 ◼   ► you pronounce it I tell anyone and I [TS]

00:40:10 ◼   ► were not in Spain as an Elvish do I [TS]

00:40:13 ◼   ► plane were playing Grima Wormtongue in [TS]

00:40:17 ◼   ► the books it's really ridiculous part i [TS]

00:40:20 ◼   ► mean it's kind of like colony and its [TS]

00:40:21 ◼   ► way and I think the more the one role [TS]

00:40:24 ◼   ► that I think I like more than more watch [TS]

00:40:26 ◼   ► the films is brad dourif that I think he [TS]

00:40:28 ◼   ► is able to take a sort of ridiculous [TS]

00:40:30 ◼   ► role where the guys serving two masters [TS]

00:40:33 ◼   ► whatever and I think he actually pulls a [TS]

00:40:36 ◼   ► lot of nobility out of this being a [TS]

00:40:37 ◼   ► lickspittle partner i think i think [TS]

00:40:40 ◼   ► that's more of a 10 character then a [TS]

00:40:41 ◼   ► medium is no one remembers you remember [TS]

00:40:43 ◼   ► the scene I don't know what's in the [TS]

00:40:44 ◼   ► extended aim is Wormtongue well as names [TS]

00:40:47 ◼   ► grima but why would you trust that guy [TS]

00:40:50 ◼   ► don't forget name is warm time yeah [TS]

00:40:53 ◼   ► don't have missed your advisee I've got [TS]

00:40:55 ◼   ► my mind my advisors name is John bad [TS]

00:40:58 ◼   ► advice like yeah exactly yeah whatever [TS]

00:41:01 ◼   ► that guy said sign me up breakfast great [TS]

00:41:03 ◼   ► but he's I've seen him to that he did it [TS]

00:41:05 ◼   ► back 15 did the x-files it's what he [TS]

00:41:07 ◼   ► does and he does it it's funny because [TS]

00:41:09 ◼   ► he voices i play a video game right now [TS]

00:41:11 ◼   ► where he plays use the voice actor of [TS]

00:41:12 ◼   ► one of the characters it's like I came [TS]

00:41:14 ◼   ► here I can see grateful working on every [TS]

00:41:16 ◼   ► time I look it wasn't he didn't do that [TS]

00:41:17 ◼   ► ruling doin also yeah well he was a [TS]

00:41:19 ◼   ► mentat into a mental seemed he was a [TS]

00:41:22 ◼   ► little nervous in turn he was a turncoat [TS]

00:41:24 ◼   ► his name was a Phil backstabber i think [TS]

00:41:26 ◼   ► was never used to typecast in roles that [TS]

00:41:31 ◼   ► are just described by their character [TS]

00:41:33 ◼   ► names he was the murderer Eugene tooms [TS]

00:41:35 ◼   ► in the x-files so yeah this is what no [TS]

00:41:38 ◼   ► he's that he's the guy that i love but [TS]

00:41:39 ◼   ► he's a scene that I like with him know [TS]

00:41:41 ◼   ► that I think is the best apartments [TS]

00:41:42 ◼   ► services both the same with Saruman at [TS]

00:41:44 ◼   ► the end when they both are killed but [TS]

00:41:46 ◼   ► the one where he's talking to me when he [TS]

00:41:49 ◼   ► has this discussion [TS]

00:41:50 ◼   ► you know he's like where they always [TS]

00:41:52 ◼   ► trying to sort of to seduce ER [TS]

00:41:54 ◼   ► and I actually think it's a great little [TS]

00:41:56 ◼   ► scene that's his moment that's another [TS]

00:41:58 ◼   ► moment tube is that defines her [TS]

00:41:59 ◼   ► character his moment is skeezy he's [TS]

00:42:02 ◼   ► already squeezies it's a subtle moment [TS]

00:42:05 ◼   ► you think that he may actually working [TS]

00:42:06 ◼   ► her now I don't know haha i don't think [TS]

00:42:10 ◼   ► that I don't know I'm 56 handle oh let's [TS]

00:42:14 ◼   ► see that subtlety but he can't even [TS]

00:42:17 ◼   ► stabbed Saruman right i don't know if [TS]

00:42:19 ◼   ► people in the chat room are complaining [TS]

00:42:21 ◼   ► about my saying yo was better than gamma [TS]

00:42:23 ◼   ► want to address these people now Angela [TS]

00:42:26 ◼   ► what you're gonna stand on a soapbox and [TS]

00:42:28 ◼   ► address them [TS]

00:42:29 ◼   ► well I have time to heat up a microwave [TS]

00:42:31 ◼   ► pizza at the reason I say Yoda is is [TS]

00:42:33 ◼   ► more impressive is because like is you [TS]

00:42:35 ◼   ► know it's like wow computers are made [TS]

00:42:36 ◼   ► like you have so much more freedom with [TS]

00:42:39 ◼   ► a computer it's much more difficult to [TS]

00:42:42 ◼   ► have a bunch of foam on a guy's hand and [TS]

00:42:44 ◼   ► then buy it as a dramatic part than it [TS]

00:42:46 ◼   ► is to do computers at this stage the [TS]

00:42:49 ◼   ► technology was I'm saying that the [TS]

00:42:50 ◼   ► achievement of making someone's hand [TS]

00:42:53 ◼   ► shoved up into a doll with a phone leaf [TS]

00:42:56 ◼   ► a muppet buying that is what is a much [TS]

00:42:59 ◼   ► greater an amazing achievement then [TS]

00:43:01 ◼   ► making gone with computers now the [TS]

00:43:04 ◼   ► government also my puter she was [TS]

00:43:05 ◼   ► everything to be just so much more [TS]

00:43:06 ◼   ► freedom [TS]

00:43:07 ◼   ► I mean like it yo get you can't even see [TS]

00:43:09 ◼   ► his feet [TS]

00:43:10 ◼   ► well that's a bit like CGI you know like [TS]

00:43:11 ◼   ► the same problem every time you look at [TS]

00:43:14 ◼   ► cgi you become you know painfully aware [TS]

00:43:15 ◼   ► that it is CG on a sec I and I think you [TS]

00:43:18 ◼   ► can soon that to a certain degree with [TS]

00:43:20 ◼   ► God by agree with you I i mean i agree [TS]

00:43:22 ◼   ► with you that I like you as a muppet [TS]

00:43:23 ◼   ► because it's like so the in mcallen [TS]

00:43:25 ◼   ► effect where it's like I don't see a [TS]

00:43:27 ◼   ► puppet and I see Yoda and with gollum [TS]

00:43:30 ◼   ► i'm still always in the back of my head [TS]

00:43:32 ◼   ► aware that like it's not the Lighting's [TS]

00:43:34 ◼   ► not quite right and it's the seat like [TS]

00:43:36 ◼   ► I'm not as followed bothered by the [TS]

00:43:37 ◼   ► helicopter shop but golem is very common [TS]

00:43:40 ◼   ► very close but the promise column has to [TS]

00:43:42 ◼   ► be human a little bit so like when i see [TS]

00:43:44 ◼   ► you die say for all I know that alien [TS]

00:43:46 ◼   ► skin looks exactly like foam rubber [TS]

00:43:48 ◼   ► I think I i think the service between [TS]

00:43:50 ◼   ► respect and admiration and actually [TS]

00:43:53 ◼   ► thinking it's it's more solid I mean and [TS]

00:43:56 ◼   ► it's just I'm I'm going to talk about [TS]

00:43:58 ◼   ► Star Wars just as an illustration of [TS]

00:43:59 ◼   ► this concept but i think that the Yoda [TS]

00:44:03 ◼   ► puppet had at least as much person [TS]

00:44:06 ◼   ► personality if not more than C driver [TS]

00:44:08 ◼   ► conversion but the fact that they have [TS]

00:44:11 ◼   ► the freedom to say well we if we were [TS]

00:44:12 ◼   ► shooting a real actor we would have an [TS]

00:44:14 ◼   ► establishing shot which he walks into [TS]

00:44:16 ◼   ► the frame and then takes a position on [TS]

00:44:19 ◼   ► it's a mark right in front of this [TS]

00:44:20 ◼   ► person is going to talk to the ability [TS]

00:44:22 ◼   ► to actually do that shot in CGI I think [TS]

00:44:25 ◼   ► that's you know that that's a more solid [TS]

00:44:27 ◼   ► choice and that's why column is a I [TS]

00:44:30 ◼   ► think he's a more realized character [TS]

00:44:32 ◼   ► than yoga was in public forum but you [TS]

00:44:34 ◼   ► can't do column as a bunch more premium [TS]

00:44:36 ◼   ► wordpress because of what he's asked to [TS]

00:44:38 ◼   ► talk say I'm saying in terms of like [TS]

00:44:40 ◼   ► being a being impressed by the [TS]

00:44:41 ◼   ► technology [TS]

00:44:42 ◼   ► I mean I think we need to advise cgi [TS]

00:44:44 ◼   ► there's so much more you can do with me [TS]

00:44:46 ◼   ► i'm impressed by the technology I just [TS]

00:44:47 ◼   ► don't necessarily buy it as a former [TS]

00:44:49 ◼   ► character it takes me out of it but i [TS]

00:44:50 ◼   ► think the same thing with Jason was [TS]

00:44:52 ◼   ► saying about the helicopter shot just [TS]

00:44:53 ◼   ► like I'm aware of it but i but I am [TS]

00:44:56 ◼   ► impressed i really i like him as a [TS]

00:44:58 ◼   ► character i think between the hobbit [TS]

00:44:59 ◼   ► version i'm sorry the the version in the [TS]

00:45:02 ◼   ► movie The Hobbit and The version of the [TS]

00:45:03 ◼   ► First Lord of the Rings movie because [TS]

00:45:05 ◼   ► they were able to put a wire up that [TS]

00:45:07 ◼   ► face so much better again and rig it so [TS]

00:45:10 ◼   ► much better for the hobbit that there's [TS]

00:45:13 ◼   ► that extra I I believed it was the first [TS]

00:45:15 ◼   ► movie but when you compare the 2i didn't [TS]

00:45:18 ◼   ► even think about how impressive this the [TS]

00:45:20 ◼   ► CGI character was in the hobbit just ok [TS]

00:45:22 ◼   ► there's column don't know how the dead [TS]

00:45:24 ◼   ► and I don't have to think about how they [TS]

00:45:26 ◼   ► did that that's just a really good life [TS]

00:45:28 ◼   ► like character now is the time when I i [TS]

00:45:31 ◼   ► believe as a fellowship we should [TS]

00:45:33 ◼   ► consider going our separate ways and [TS]

00:45:36 ◼   ► saying goodbye so i'm considering this [TS]

00:45:38 ◼   ► the end of this episode [TS]

00:45:41 ◼   ► what else what should we talk about I [TS]

00:45:43 ◼   ► thought we had another hour to go but we [TS]

00:45:45 ◼   ► do that was just the first ending [TS]

00:45:46 ◼   ► oh shoot there's plenty more to talk i [TS]

00:45:49 ◼   ► just want to work in semantics in in two [TS]

00:45:51 ◼   ► hours we all get on a boat [TS]

00:45:53 ◼   ► I want to talk about my favorite other [TS]

00:45:54 ◼   ► seen the movie of my many favorite [TS]

00:45:55 ◼   ► scenes the movie about seven favorite [TS]

00:45:57 ◼   ► scenes there's 15 endings i have seven [TS]

00:45:59 ◼   ► favorite seems like one or two hours [TS]

00:46:00 ◼   ► telling the Battle of Pellinor fields i [TS]

00:46:03 ◼   ► think is a wonderful thing it's true [TS]

00:46:05 ◼   ► it's actually i think one of the most [TS]

00:46:07 ◼   ► readable battle scenes in the book and [TS]

00:46:09 ◼   ► it's it goes it has a lot of interesting [TS]

00:46:11 ◼   ► detail and it tells the story very well [TS]

00:46:13 ◼   ► even with so much actually on token [TS]

00:46:15 ◼   ► tends to do like army generals he throws [TS]

00:46:18 ◼   ► wave after wave of people in New York [TS]

00:46:19 ◼   ► City [TS]

00:46:20 ◼   ► other at times the movie does that too [TS]

00:46:22 ◼   ► but pound or fields in the movie it it's [TS]

00:46:25 ◼   ► you know it's sort of a crazy amount of [TS]

00:46:26 ◼   ► action there's all the giant elephant [TS]

00:46:28 ◼   ► monsters that come with the old fonts [TS]

00:46:30 ◼   ► that come in and wave after wave of [TS]

00:46:33 ◼   ► things happening but there's that bit [TS]

00:46:35 ◼   ► with the race with the with the [TS]

00:46:37 ◼   ► witch-king and wear ao when the reason [TS]

00:46:41 ◼   ► that all different themes have come [TS]

00:46:43 ◼   ► together you know something going back [TS]

00:46:45 ◼   ► thousands of years now in the books [TS]

00:46:47 ◼   ► mythology it all comes together and [TS]

00:46:50 ◼   ► she's there for the right reason and [TS]

00:46:51 ◼   ► mary poppins Pippin know Mary Pippin I [TS]

00:46:55 ◼   ► can be one of those is it charlie was [TS]

00:46:56 ◼   ► lost in the other ones that Mary was a [TS]

00:46:58 ◼   ► pic but I've lost check out the scene [TS]

00:47:00 ◼   ► we're talking about those guys hot in it [TS]

00:47:03 ◼   ► and there's a guy with the brown mean [TS]

00:47:06 ◼   ► Hobbit fathobbit Charlie from water any [TS]

00:47:09 ◼   ► other arm huh anyway so they're one of [TS]

00:47:14 ◼   ► the purposes there and he's got the [TS]

00:47:15 ◼   ► sword in the books as Pippin I'm sorry [TS]

00:47:17 ◼   ► Spencer he's got the sword in the books [TS]

00:47:20 ◼   ► they described he got a sword in the tom [TS]

00:47:22 ◼   ► bombadil seen that is the only thing [TS]

00:47:24 ◼   ► that could possibly affect the [TS]

00:47:26 ◼   ► witch-king so in the book at all comes [TS]

00:47:27 ◼   ► together more but it still plays in the [TS]

00:47:29 ◼   ► movie that you have this bit where the [TS]

00:47:31 ◼   ► battle is going it goes back and forth [TS]

00:47:32 ◼   ► you know it looks like everything that [TS]

00:47:34 ◼   ► he lost us the moment you know in the [TS]

00:47:36 ◼   ► movie can't happen there's going to be [TS]

00:47:37 ◼   ► some kind of outcome and then we have [TS]

00:47:41 ◼   ► students downfall he's knocked over the [TS]

00:47:43 ◼   ► witch-king comes in the head ringwraith [TS]

00:47:45 ◼   ► to sort of you know to finish him off [TS]

00:47:49 ◼   ► and eat then i'll take the horse the [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► whole thing [TS]

00:47:51 ◼   ► scrape it and if anyone comes up it's [TS]

00:47:54 ◼   ► more in the book she's hidden immunity [TS]

00:47:55 ◼   ► for this long [TS]

00:47:56 ◼   ► she is going to you know she's battles [TS]

00:47:59 ◼   ► this guy and she lets the air out of the [TS]

00:48:01 ◼   ► which case shasha g that she's got a big [TS]

00:48:04 ◼   ► she's got the big flail he's gonna [TS]

00:48:07 ◼   ► conquer this woman suddenly seems weak [TS]

00:48:08 ◼   ► you know she's a shieldmaiden right and [TS]

00:48:10 ◼   ► then Pippin just you know cuts his leg [TS]

00:48:13 ◼   ► basically stabs him and kill she'll [TS]

00:48:15 ◼   ► exactly exactly and that she's able to [TS]

00:48:18 ◼   ► to kill him and then it suddenly like [TS]

00:48:19 ◼   ► that's the turning they've got this [TS]

00:48:21 ◼   ► great moment happens that's the turning [TS]

00:48:22 ◼   ► of the tide and it's I think it's a [TS]

00:48:24 ◼   ► wonderful thing that that seems not that [TS]

00:48:26 ◼   ► I like the extended edition scene with [TS]

00:48:27 ◼   ► the mouth of Sauron where aragorn's just [TS]

00:48:30 ◼   ► decide what have had enough [TS]

00:48:31 ◼   ► that's just cut it off as equipment gets [TS]

00:48:35 ◼   ► better as a wonderful scene that doesn't [TS]

00:48:36 ◼   ► read this thing on the the the the mouth [TS]

00:48:39 ◼   ► which isn't quite right as a mouth is [TS]

00:48:41 ◼   ► very creepy you have two big in the [TS]

00:48:43 ◼   ► strange and optional lips move weird and [TS]

00:48:46 ◼   ► it all is gonna be cooking mouth there's [TS]

00:48:48 ◼   ► to cleanse favorite scenes from 41 [TS]

00:48:51 ◼   ► Glenn's favorite since it's been great i [TS]

00:48:53 ◼   ► really enjoyed being on the show and [TS]

00:48:54 ◼   ► yeah it's been great but it's sadly it's [TS]

00:48:57 ◼   ► time I think maybe we must all go into [TS]

00:48:59 ◼   ► the West now and and because i'm feeling [TS]

00:49:02 ◼   ► that the world is an end so we may have [TS]

00:49:04 ◼   ► to all say goodbye [TS]

00:49:05 ◼   ► what else we talked about was a deal [TS]

00:49:06 ◼   ► with galadriel and Gandalf was that [TS]

00:49:08 ◼   ► about I think you know what the deal i [TS]

00:49:11 ◼   ► don't know i mean caliber when she [TS]

00:49:13 ◼   ► married to and their ring bearers know [TS]

00:49:15 ◼   ► she's I thought she was married to the [TS]

00:49:16 ◼   ► other dude another guy in the forest [TS]

00:49:18 ◼   ► Delabar and what everyone called him [TS]

00:49:20 ◼   ► celery kill a boat but that's not the [TS]

00:49:23 ◼   ► guy from the major celebrate the unabomb [TS]

00:49:24 ◼   ► no no she never tell rod or one's wife [TS]

00:49:27 ◼   ► was killed by works long ago [TS]

00:49:28 ◼   ► what is true read the books man i did [TS]

00:49:33 ◼   ► like 10 years ago his wife that's why he [TS]

00:49:35 ◼   ► hates works [TS]

00:49:36 ◼   ► do you ever wonder why L run hoods works [TS]

00:49:38 ◼   ► so much everybody hates or does anybody [TS]

00:49:42 ◼   ► like those on loves them hangs out with [TS]

00:49:44 ◼   ► the lost found her sorry mom doesn't [TS]

00:49:46 ◼   ► like works here's the thing about what I [TS]

00:49:47 ◼   ► mean let's talk about orcs orcs are [TS]

00:49:49 ◼   ► terrible [TS]

00:49:50 ◼   ► they're really bad at their jobs they [TS]

00:49:51 ◼   ► die very easily you have like a thousand [TS]

00:49:53 ◼   ► orcs and five guys and they just kill [TS]

00:49:55 ◼   ► the orcs there the stormtroopers of the [TS]

00:49:57 ◼   ► lord of the rare the stormtroopers right [TS]

00:49:58 ◼   ► so so so sorry Mon doesn't like works [TS]

00:50:01 ◼   ► that's why he goes to all the trouble of [TS]

00:50:03 ◼   ► cutting down all the trees and mining [TS]

00:50:05 ◼   ► all the metal so he can make Eric I [TS]

00:50:07 ◼   ► because or acai are actually kind of [TS]

00:50:09 ◼   ► competent than warriors works you know [TS]

00:50:11 ◼   ► we have they're there because the great [TS]

00:50:13 ◼   ► warriors they dance from hockey and [TS]

00:50:15 ◼   ► displays being a great performances as [TS]

00:50:18 ◼   ► we were earlier can we just give a good [TS]

00:50:20 ◼   ► hand to all the people who play the orc [TS]

00:50:21 ◼   ► extras [TS]

00:50:22 ◼   ► I got a UH you a great job there they're [TS]

00:50:25 ◼   ► great no I love the ones especially the [TS]

00:50:26 ◼   ► ones of lines would be with the crazy [TS]

00:50:28 ◼   ► like New Zealand British accent and [TS]

00:50:30 ◼   ► everything makeup is awesome on some of [TS]

00:50:32 ◼   ► those do a great job with the makeup and [TS]

00:50:34 ◼   ► all mia the physicality and everything [TS]

00:50:36 ◼   ► of it i love that work like sergeant [TS]

00:50:38 ◼   ► what was he the guy with the great [TS]

00:50:39 ◼   ► misshapen head with the limp and then [TS]

00:50:41 ◼   ► sort of half arm who sort of pink is [TS]

00:50:43 ◼   ► like like colored like our [TS]

00:50:44 ◼   ► sir and that giant stone comes lobbed [TS]

00:50:47 ◼   ► anime stands aside because Jackson large [TS]

00:50:49 ◼   ► databases got a blue one in the harlot [TS]

00:50:50 ◼   ► my recollection traits but they are kind [TS]

00:50:54 ◼   ► much scarier I just like I like this I [TS]

00:50:56 ◼   ► like the simple ones like the one in in [TS]

00:50:58 ◼   ► Mordor who takes a when when photos all [TS]

00:51:02 ◼   ► tied up in the in the web I like you [TS]

00:51:05 ◼   ► know I just I don't know if there's [TS]

00:51:06 ◼   ► something he's kinda you know he's like [TS]

00:51:07 ◼   ► he's like a London docket [TS]

00:51:09 ◼   ► yeah yeah the mortar arcs have something [TS]

00:51:11 ◼   ► going to them they have more of like a [TS]

00:51:12 ◼   ► sniveling sneaky nature I feel like [TS]

00:51:14 ◼   ► they're like the archivist big dumb [TS]

00:51:16 ◼   ► brutes but the the more orcs like yeah [TS]

00:51:18 ◼   ► they're wimpy and get our daily but like [TS]

00:51:21 ◼   ► there's the guys their blue-collar orcs [TS]

00:51:23 ◼   ► yet know about their they'll slit your [TS]

00:51:24 ◼   ► throat in the night and steal your stuff [TS]

00:51:26 ◼   ► and your livestock as the orcs are like [TS]

00:51:28 ◼   ► hatch to like that's something that's [TS]

00:51:30 ◼   ► only hinted at in the books and [TS]

00:51:32 ◼   ► appendices never mentioned the books [TS]

00:51:33 ◼   ► they have no women have sex with someone [TS]

00:51:35 ◼   ► might have Tommy had 10 women apparently [TS]

00:51:38 ◼   ► like everybody reproduces asexually or [TS]

00:51:40 ◼   ► like buds or something I don't stephanie [TS]

00:51:42 ◼   ► l so lov I just don't they don't [TS]

00:51:44 ◼   ► reproduce heels look at each other with [TS]

00:51:46 ◼   ► a smoldering passion for a couple years [TS]

00:51:48 ◼   ► and then standing still a couple hundred [TS]

00:51:50 ◼   ► years probably better than babies are [TS]

00:51:52 ◼   ► born somehow somehow they have the [TS]

00:51:54 ◼   ► dwarves build their children don't huge [TS]

00:51:58 ◼   ► them know that the door for women you [TS]

00:52:00 ◼   ► know look like if we're at your service [TS]

00:52:03 ◼   ► we can't tell the difference where women [TS]

00:52:05 ◼   ► have beards that's one of the better [TS]

00:52:06 ◼   ► added lines that's from the books and [TS]

00:52:09 ◼   ► we're trying to say positive things but [TS]

00:52:10 ◼   ► like what something that comes up is the [TS]

00:52:12 ◼   ► John cannot fight his nature mom what [TS]

00:52:15 ◼   ► about John let it out when i watch these [TS]

00:52:17 ◼   ► movies i know they're necessary for plot [TS]

00:52:19 ◼   ► purposes but i always like to ponder [TS]

00:52:20 ◼   ► like that we really need the ants I know [TS]

00:52:22 ◼   ► that's sacrilege but like yeah because [TS]

00:52:24 ◼   ► you do need them for so many important [TS]

00:52:26 ◼   ► plot points but i don't think they come [TS]

00:52:28 ◼   ► off well in the movie there's some funny [TS]

00:52:31 ◼   ► you know i like i like the end meeting [TS]

00:52:33 ◼   ► where there's the scene where my kids [TS]

00:52:35 ◼   ► actually thought that was hilarious [TS]

00:52:36 ◼   ► where they're saying good morning in a [TS]

00:52:39 ◼   ► nighttime that's a funny bit and I'll i [TS]

00:52:41 ◼   ► kinda like it when they get pissed off [TS]

00:52:42 ◼   ► and they start throwing rocks at at [TS]

00:52:44 ◼   ► Saruman [TS]

00:52:46 ◼   ► other than the end in the end they're [TS]

00:52:47 ◼   ► walking trees and like somehow that [TS]

00:52:49 ◼   ► works better in the book is really does [TS]

00:52:51 ◼   ► John is saying there John saying that he [TS]

00:52:53 ◼   ► walks basically it [TS]

00:52:55 ◼   ► well he's not quick be mean he's right [TS]

00:52:58 ◼   ► that that uh that it you've got to [TS]

00:53:00 ◼   ► portray them and that makes you have to [TS]

00:53:02 ◼   ► have sentries and how the heck do you do [TS]

00:53:05 ◼   ► that [TS]

00:53:06 ◼   ► yeah yeah I think they lose me a little [TS]

00:53:07 ◼   ► bit that part where the the end the the [TS]

00:53:09 ◼   ► young and steals the speeder bike and [TS]

00:53:11 ◼   ► draws its alright [TS]

00:53:13 ◼   ► actually it's it's exactly like return [TS]

00:53:16 ◼   ► of the jedi x1 speeder bike it's the [TS]

00:53:17 ◼   ► tree the tree is really angry with my [TS]

00:53:20 ◼   ► brother it back i like that John [TS]

00:53:23 ◼   ► rhys-davies gets double billing yes [TS]

00:53:25 ◼   ► because he's game Lee and reappeared and [TS]

00:53:28 ◼   ► Sawa wait they're digging in the wrong [TS]

00:53:32 ◼   ► mines of moria oh that's good i got [TS]

00:53:37 ◼   ► there yet far out man that I like them [TS]

00:53:39 ◼   ► tired so I like mines of moria i really [TS]

00:53:42 ◼   ► like that i think that the foreboding I [TS]

00:53:43 ◼   ► Johnson looks like i said earlier but [TS]

00:53:45 ◼   ► like the foreboding I like the comedy in [TS]

00:53:48 ◼   ► the middle of it there's that there's a [TS]

00:53:49 ◼   ► bit there's that quite part where I [TS]

00:53:51 ◼   ► don't think i'll figure out where to go [TS]

00:53:53 ◼   ► and and they and they see it always [TS]

00:53:55 ◼   ► climbing and then he's like oh you know [TS]

00:53:57 ◼   ► i like when Pip and knocks the thing [TS]

00:53:59 ◼   ► down the well and it's just like keeps [TS]

00:54:00 ◼   ► going [TS]

00:54:01 ◼   ► oh he's like everybody thinks it's over [TS]

00:54:03 ◼   ► and it just keeps echoing down and they [TS]

00:54:05 ◼   ► got that great close shot on him just [TS]

00:54:07 ◼   ► watching him wince every time it hits [TS]

00:54:09 ◼   ► something we did open with me trying to [TS]

00:54:10 ◼   ► do that but this it's pronounced mental [TS]

00:54:12 ◼   ► on but it is that very funny bits funny [TS]

00:54:14 ◼   ► in the books too [TS]

00:54:15 ◼   ► we're sitting in from the doors and [TS]

00:54:16 ◼   ► again it's like all these stores used to [TS]