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126: A Dark, Dark Narnia

 

00:00:00   the incomparable is sponsored by fairway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/0">TS</a>]

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00:00:06   the incomparable number 126 februari [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/6">TS</a>]

00:00:18   welcome back to the incomparable podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/18">TS</a>]

00:00:20   this is jason smell your host and I am [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/20">TS</a>]

00:00:22   convening this edition of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/22">TS</a>]

00:00:23   incomparable to be a comic book club so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/23">TS</a>]

00:00:27   we're going to talk about comic book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/27">TS</a>]

00:00:29   club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/29">TS</a>]

00:00:30   we're not going to wear so we're gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/30">TS</a>]

00:00:31   talk about a comic and what I like to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/31">TS</a>]

00:00:34   is see if we can pick something that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/34">TS</a>]

00:00:37   available in a trade paperback so if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/37">TS</a>]

00:00:39   you're not somebody who haunts your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/39">TS</a>]

00:00:40   local comic shop every week that's okay [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/40">TS</a>]

00:00:42   you can run out and get a get the trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/42">TS</a>]

00:00:46   paperback and read it and it's just like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/46">TS</a>]

00:00:48   a book club except it's got pictures you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/48">TS</a>]

00:00:50   see that's the difference they make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/50">TS</a>]

00:00:51   comic book and our selection for this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/51">TS</a>]

00:00:55   edition of comic book club is called [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/55">TS</a>]

00:00:57   lock and key and joining me to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/57">TS</a>]

00:01:01   about locking key which is a series but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/61">TS</a>]

00:01:05   it's not an open-ended series 2 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/65">TS</a>]

00:01:07   closed-ended series and we're going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/67">TS</a>]

00:01:08   talk primarily about the first volume [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/68">TS</a>]

00:01:09   and then we'll progress from there a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/69">TS</a>]

00:01:11   little bit fire off the spoiler horn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/71">TS</a>]

00:01:13   when necessary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/73">TS</a>]

00:01:14   my usual compatriots on the comical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/74">TS</a>]

00:01:16   clever here Lisa Schmeisser thanks for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/76">TS</a>]

00:01:18   joining me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/78">TS</a>]

00:01:19   it's a pleasure to be here glad to have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/79">TS</a>]

00:01:20   you and Jason brightman is here with a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/80">TS</a>]

00:01:23   shiny new microphone to be on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/83">TS</a>]

00:01:25   podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/85">TS</a>]

00:01:26   hi Jason yeah it's great to be here it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/86">TS</a>]

00:01:28   great to have you and joining us a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/88">TS</a>]

00:01:30   special new addition to the comma club [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/90">TS</a>]

00:01:34   its moist s2 jaan hai my SS hello Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/94">TS</a>]

00:01:37   it's lovely to take a break from hosting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/97">TS</a>]

00:01:39   two comics podcast to be on another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/99">TS</a>]

00:01:41   comics podcast you like the wolverine of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/101">TS</a>]

00:01:44   comics podcast member of every day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/104">TS</a>]

00:01:46   anyway locking key is by joe hill and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/106">TS</a>]

00:01:51   gabriel rodriguez and joe hill if you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/111">TS</a>]

00:01:55   not aware i keep saying this and and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/115">TS</a>]

00:01:58   he probably would roll his eyes at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/118">TS</a>]

00:01:59   is he stephen king's kid if you haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/119">TS</a>]

00:02:02   heard of Stephen King what's wrong with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/122">TS</a>]

00:02:04   you but I think he's a really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/124">TS</a>]

00:02:05   writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/125">TS</a>]

00:02:06   I'll say that out front but i have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/126">TS</a>]

00:02:08   say i think i think it's sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/128">TS</a>]

00:02:10   relevant that he stephen king's kid only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/130">TS</a>]

00:02:11   because his his writing is familiar it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/131">TS</a>]

00:02:15   reminds me of Stephen King in some ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/135">TS</a>]

00:02:16   in and and this is definitely a horror [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/136">TS</a>]

00:02:19   edged comic in some ways and also it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/139">TS</a>]

00:02:23   set in in New England but proving that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/143">TS</a>]

00:02:26   he is independent of his father it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/146">TS</a>]

00:02:28   largely set in the the town of Lovecraft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/148">TS</a>]

00:02:31   mass [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/151">TS</a>]

00:02:31   the chusetts not name a few hundred [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/151">TS</a>]

00:02:34   miles to the south of castle rock maze [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/154">TS</a>]

00:02:36   huh that's right it's not made so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/156">TS</a>]

00:02:38   very different from his fault yeah i was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/158">TS</a>]

00:02:42   thinking about the similarities between [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/162">TS</a>]

00:02:44   stephen king's work in Joe Hill's and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/164">TS</a>]

00:02:47   was also thinking it takes a heck of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/167">TS</a>]

00:02:49   lot of nerve to be a child of Stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/169">TS</a>]

00:02:52   King's and to go into basically the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/172">TS</a>]

00:02:53   line of work in mind the same genre is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/173">TS</a>]

00:02:56   too especially when one of your parents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/176">TS</a>]

00:02:57   is is the 20th century's answer to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/177">TS</a>]

00:03:00   Charles Dickens you know until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/180">TS</a>]

00:03:03   mentioned that I had no idea Joe Hill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/183">TS</a>]

00:03:05   was stephen king's kid you didn't know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/185">TS</a>]

00:03:07   oh no III didn't know which just shows [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/187">TS</a>]

00:03:09   you how much Stephen King I've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/189">TS</a>]

00:03:10   about this podcast get out this as best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/190">TS</a>]

00:03:14   you can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/194">TS</a>]

00:03:15   it's a it's a good perspective because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/195">TS</a>]

00:03:17   now that you mention that it makes sense [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/197">TS</a>]

00:03:19   and i can recognize some certain things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/199">TS</a>]

00:03:22   in there there's a vibe there right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/202">TS</a>]

00:03:23   there the fact there's a tone so i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/203">TS</a>]

00:03:25   i read actually 11 we're going to talk [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/205">TS</a>]

00:03:28   about maybe a little bit later but I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/208">TS</a>]

00:03:29   read volume for of locking key first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/209">TS</a>]

00:03:32   which is completely normal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/212">TS</a>]

00:03:34   mostly because it was nominated for Hugo [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/214">TS</a>]

00:03:35   warden and as a hugo voter i got the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/215">TS</a>]

00:03:38   packet with all the nominees including [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/218">TS</a>]

00:03:40   walking key and I just thought it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/220">TS</a>]

00:03:42   one of those I didn't realize it was so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/222">TS</a>]

00:03:44   self-contained that it really was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/224">TS</a>]

00:03:46   story to be read from beginning to end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/226">TS</a>]

00:03:47   but i had no idea who Joe Hill was when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/227">TS</a>]

00:03:49   i read it and i was impressed enough at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/229">TS</a>]

00:03:51   that point to say wow that was really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/231">TS</a>]

00:03:53   good i don't understand half of what I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/233">TS</a>]

00:03:55   read and I need to go back to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/235">TS</a>]

00:03:56   beginning and start with vol.1 welcome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/236">TS</a>]

00:03:59   to Lovecraft available at your local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/239">TS</a>]

00:04:01   local comics store from ID'd idw [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/241">TS</a>]

00:04:05   publishing and I've got my copy read my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/245">TS</a>]

00:04:08   hot little hands here a paper copy of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/248">TS</a>]

00:04:09   I don't know where to begin this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/249">TS</a>]

00:04:11   first volume is really interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/251">TS</a>]

00:04:13   because over over the future volumes are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/253">TS</a>]

00:04:16   set in this town but only one is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/256">TS</a>]

00:04:19   about setting a mood and introducing us [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/259">TS</a>]

00:04:22   to these characters and I was trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/262">TS</a>]

00:04:24   explain in two sentences what this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/264">TS</a>]

00:04:26   is to my wife and the best I could I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/266">TS</a>]

00:04:28   could kind of come up with is it's about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/268">TS</a>]

00:04:30   these kids who are in California and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/270">TS</a>]

00:04:33   their father is murdered and they have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/273">TS</a>]

00:04:36   to move back to to this town in New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/276">TS</a>]

00:04:39   England not mean and the murderer comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/279">TS</a>]

00:04:42   to get them because that's basically the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/282">TS</a>]

00:04:44   story of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/284">TS</a>]

00:04:45   of welcome to Lovecraft I mean it at all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/285">TS</a>]

00:04:48   and there's no their magic keys by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/288">TS</a>]

00:04:50   way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/290">TS</a>]

00:04:51   well I thought that one of the the most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/291">TS</a>]

00:04:52   chilling aspects of welcome to Lovecraft [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/292">TS</a>]

00:04:54   in a book that is just chock-full them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/294">TS</a>]

00:04:57   is the realization that this brutal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/297">TS</a>]

00:05:00   murder isn't even really the point of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/300">TS</a>]

00:05:03   the story it's just an event meant to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/303">TS</a>]

00:05:06   set the whole story in motion and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/306">TS</a>]

00:05:08   it only gets more horrific by the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/308">TS</a>]

00:05:10   when you realize that there is some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/310">TS</a>]

00:05:12   malign force that's moving all of these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/312">TS</a>]

00:05:14   people into place like so many bubbles [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/314">TS</a>]

00:05:16   chess pieces that's that set the murder [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/316">TS</a>]

00:05:20   itself is plenty horrific and if I close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/320">TS</a>]

00:05:22   my eyes I can still see the comic-book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/322">TS</a>]

00:05:24   panel where the daughter kenzie is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/324">TS</a>]

00:05:28   holding boat is holding your hand over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/328">TS</a>]

00:05:30   bodis mouth and and cowering something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/330">TS</a>]

00:05:32   the axe murderer can't find them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/332">TS</a>]

00:05:33   just just the way that panel is shot and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/333">TS</a>]

00:05:35   composed and Incas is haunting it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/335">TS</a>]

00:05:40   incredible art and it's horrifying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/340">TS</a>]

00:05:41   look at the same time it's so effective [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/341">TS</a>]

00:05:43   and it you're right in one way it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/343">TS</a>]

00:05:46   really representative of where the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/346">TS</a>]

00:05:48   series is going but it's so evocative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/348">TS</a>]

00:05:53   from the get-go because it's it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/353">TS</a>]

00:05:55   thing that it sets the whole story in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/355">TS</a>]

00:05:56   motion but it's not you know this this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/356">TS</a>]

00:05:59   isn't a meditation on the impact of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/359">TS</a>]

00:06:02   act of violence on these children I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/362">TS</a>]

00:06:05   it is sort of that but it's really about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/365">TS</a>]

00:06:07   putting these kids on a trajectory and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/367">TS</a>]

00:06:09   it almost reminded me of like a like a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/369">TS</a>]

00:06:12   Narnia kind of dark dark Narnia kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/372">TS</a>]

00:06:15   thing where there's magic and the kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/375">TS</a>]

00:06:17   to get to that to get to this house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/377">TS</a>]

00:06:19   where where this magical you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/379">TS</a>]

00:06:22   magical keys where they're located [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/382">TS</a>]

00:06:26   there's this terrible tragedy like it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/386">TS</a>]

00:06:28   the blips in the case of narnia and here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/388">TS</a>]

00:06:30   it's it's a murder right well one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/390">TS</a>]

00:06:31   favorite books as a kid was james and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/391">TS</a>]

00:06:33   the giant peach which it all begins with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/393">TS</a>]

00:06:36   James's parents being horribly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/396">TS</a>]

00:06:38   grotesquely killed in a animal attack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/398">TS</a>]

00:06:41   escaped what is it like a rhinoceros or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/401">TS</a>]

00:06:43   something escapes from thanks for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/403">TS</a>]

00:06:44   lovely disney movie right right well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/404">TS</a>]

00:06:46   yeah about me but starts out really dark [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/406">TS</a>]

00:06:49   right one and then it kinda and he goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/409">TS</a>]

00:06:51   to his awful answer gets darker but they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/411">TS</a>]

00:06:53   reminded me that a little bit too or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/413">TS</a>]

00:06:54   there's this horrible moment that kicks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/414">TS</a>]

00:06:57   off the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/417">TS</a>]

00:06:58   a series of unfortunate events right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/418">TS</a>]

00:07:01   yeah it'sit's by the way the panel i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/421">TS</a>]

00:07:03   talking about is on page 45 for anybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/423">TS</a>]

00:07:05   who's playing along at home has the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/425">TS</a>]

00:07:06   trade paperback and you see repeated [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/426">TS</a>]

00:07:09   again on page 61 in a lot more detail [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/429">TS</a>]

00:07:12   much much more recently so it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/432">TS</a>]

00:07:17   definitely this is one of the things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/437">TS</a>]

00:07:18   about the series they do a great job of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/438">TS</a>]

00:07:19   repeating visual motifs over and over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/439">TS</a>]

00:07:21   again on without beating you over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/441">TS</a>]

00:07:23   head with it which I really appreciate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/443">TS</a>]

00:07:24   it well I think the storytelling in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/444">TS</a>]

00:07:28   particular though the first chapter or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/448">TS</a>]

00:07:30   the first issue if you were doing it in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/450">TS</a>]

00:07:32   the floppy way the way it opens up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/452">TS</a>]

00:07:36   just the the welcome mat in the door and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/456">TS</a>]

00:07:37   then the the two murderers at the door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/457">TS</a>]

00:07:41   with their you you see their weapons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/461">TS</a>]

00:07:45   sort of hidden here and this is just on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/465">TS</a>]

00:07:47   the the second page of the thing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/467">TS</a>]

00:07:49   already you know no good is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/469">TS</a>]

00:07:51   happen but start setting this tone of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/471">TS</a>]

00:07:53   hidden motives hidden objects the bodies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/473">TS</a>]

00:07:57   in the back of the truck really got me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/477">TS</a>]

00:07:58   too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/478">TS</a>]

00:07:59   there's a runaway refers shot where you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/479">TS</a>]

00:08:01   see that did that although they're being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/481">TS</a>]

00:08:03   you know sort of like posing as as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/483">TS</a>]

00:08:05   reasonable people there are dead bodies [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/485">TS</a>]

00:08:06   in the in the back of the pickup she [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/486">TS</a>]

00:08:08   says I like your pickup it's from my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/488">TS</a>]

00:08:10   uncle he doesn't mind in India it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/490">TS</a>]

00:08:12   readily apparent why and it's just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/492">TS</a>]

00:08:16   well it one of the themes that seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/496">TS</a>]

00:08:18   be embroidered over the series is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/498">TS</a>]

00:08:19   that you don't know will kill you and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/499">TS</a>]

00:08:22   they lay that out in the first nine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/502">TS</a>]

00:08:24   pages of the above excuse me to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/504">TS</a>]

00:08:25   first three pages of the book so Joe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/505">TS</a>]

00:08:29   hell does not mess around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/509">TS</a>]

00:08:31   now I'm know I was thinking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/511">TS</a>]

00:08:34   and like i said i think i think stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/514">TS</a>]

00:08:37   king is basically the 20th century [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/517">TS</a>]

00:08:38   answer to charles dickens and that he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/518">TS</a>]

00:08:40   written a lot of fiction and actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/520">TS</a>]

00:08:43   created a lot of fictional troops that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/523">TS</a>]

00:08:44   have become part of pop culture people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/524">TS</a>]

00:08:47   always talk about problems and pig's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/527">TS</a>]

00:08:48   blood the same way and the shining can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/528">TS</a>]

00:08:51   certainly entered people's you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/531">TS</a>]

00:08:54   lexicons even if some of that can be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/534">TS</a>]

00:08:55   attributed Stanley Kubrick and I thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/535">TS</a>]

00:08:58   about how challenging it has to be if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/538">TS</a>]

00:09:00   you are a writer and you're trying to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/540">TS</a>]

00:09:01   pull together this whole narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/541">TS</a>]

00:09:03   universe and you're like alright the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/543">TS</a>]

00:09:06   stuff that I'm sorting through my head [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/546">TS</a>]

00:09:07   my imagination how much of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/547">TS</a>]

00:09:08   coming from and how much of that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/548">TS</a>]

00:09:10   stuff that my dad was gassing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/550">TS</a>]

00:09:11   about the dinner table vinegar sink oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/551">TS</a>]

00:09:13   you know how was your day uh wasn't that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/553">TS</a>]

00:09:16   I i wrote a scene about a bunch of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/556">TS</a>]

00:09:18   people living under a dome today [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/558">TS</a>]

00:09:20   oh you know how do you how do you find [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/560">TS</a>]

00:09:23   your own original voice in that and i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/563">TS</a>]

00:09:26   would love to know how Joe Hill is done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/566">TS</a>]

00:09:27   it because there's a lot of King [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/567">TS</a>]

00:09:30   influences for example i think a lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/570">TS</a>]

00:09:32   naming a lot of the names he comes up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/572">TS</a>]

00:09:34   with his characters have a very Stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/574">TS</a>]

00:09:35   King feel to them because King has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/575">TS</a>]

00:09:37   gift for giving his characters very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/577">TS</a>]

00:09:38   vivid and illustrative name's not that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/578">TS</a>]

00:09:41   that's continued here but at the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/581">TS</a>]

00:09:43   time we don't you don't feel like he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/583">TS</a>]

00:09:44   doing he's not doing an impression of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/584">TS</a>]

00:09:46   his father if I didn't know that he was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/586">TS</a>]

00:09:48   stephen king's kid I would say that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/588">TS</a>]

00:09:50   somebody was influenced by stephen king [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/590">TS</a>]

00:09:51   right clearly yeah but he's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/591">TS</a>]

00:09:53   sentimental like he's always been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/593">TS</a>]

00:09:55   really broad street of sentiment running [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/595">TS</a>]

00:09:56   through Kings work almost mawkish this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/596">TS</a>]

00:09:58   and places and this book is a little i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/598">TS</a>]

00:10:01   wouldn't say nasty cuz that like I tend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/601">TS</a>]

00:10:03   to think of your game is being kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/603">TS</a>]

00:10:04   having a nice broad stroke of nastiness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/604">TS</a>]

00:10:06   to his comic book writing but he'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/606">TS</a>]

00:10:09   seems to be a lot more clear-eyed a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/609">TS</a>]

00:10:10   less sentimental about people's emotions [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/610">TS</a>]

00:10:12   and motives and the damage they do to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/612">TS</a>]

00:10:13   other people and i find it refreshing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/613">TS</a>]

00:10:17   yeah I think that kind of brewed brutal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/617">TS</a>]

00:10:20   honesty about the characters motivations [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/620">TS</a>]

00:10:22   without the need to go back to the that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/622">TS</a>]

00:10:26   kingfish sentimentality for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/626">TS</a>]

00:10:29   sentimentality sake was one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/629">TS</a>]

00:10:32   things that I found most arresting about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/632">TS</a>]

00:10:33   it on on my first read-through of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/633">TS</a>]

00:10:36   first chair of the first volume of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/636">TS</a>]

00:10:38   welcome to Lovecraft and it's one that i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/638">TS</a>]

00:10:40   reread even though i had the other for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/640">TS</a>]

00:10:43   sitting right there and I was ready to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/643">TS</a>]

00:10:44   plow right through them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/644">TS</a>]

00:10:45   I had to become come to grips that with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/645">TS</a>]

00:10:48   the fact that it was going to be just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/648">TS</a>]

00:10:50   this uncompromising and that's that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/650">TS</a>]

00:10:52   what really hooked me in immediately men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/652">TS</a>]

00:10:56   and made it so compelling for me I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/656">TS</a>]

00:10:57   where they're dealing with issues of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/657">TS</a>]

00:10:59   other mothers substance abuse and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/659">TS</a>]

00:11:01   post-traumatic stress disorder that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/661">TS</a>]

00:11:04   has resulted from this thing in the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/664">TS</a>]

00:11:06   that the kids are coping in different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/666">TS</a>]

00:11:08   ways how the daughters trying to figure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/668">TS</a>]

00:11:10   out not just who she is as a human being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/670">TS</a>]

00:11:12   but as an adolescent girl wanting to you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/672">TS</a>]

00:11:16   know start relationships with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/676">TS</a>]

00:11:18   with with with girls as well as with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/678">TS</a>]

00:11:21   guys romantically and trying to navigate [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/681">TS</a>]

00:11:24   that on top of being the epicenter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/684">TS</a>]

00:11:27   all of this really terrible stuff and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/687">TS</a>]

00:11:29   then the little kid trying to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/689">TS</a>]

00:11:31   little kid and then the eldest brother [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/691">TS</a>]

00:11:34   trying to find his place in the whole [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/694">TS</a>]

00:11:35   thing and there isn't this there isn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/695">TS</a>]

00:11:39   this periodic kumbaya moment where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/699">TS</a>]

00:11:42   everybody is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/702">TS</a>]

00:11:43   yeah you know just holding hands and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/703">TS</a>]

00:11:45   sharing wore glasses of milk and graham [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/705">TS</a>]

00:11:47   crackers just doesn't happen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/707">TS</a>]

00:11:48   yeah because you meet Zach at the end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/708">TS</a>]

00:11:50   and you're like oh crap oh no so so that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/710">TS</a>]

00:11:54   I mean that I think you're right there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/714">TS</a>]

00:11:55   so much here that because you eat there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/715">TS</a>]

00:11:57   is this whole layer of it would plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/717">TS</a>]

00:11:59   alone right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/719">TS</a>]

00:12:00   the kids parent their kid's father is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/720">TS</a>]

00:12:02   killed they they basically flee to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/722">TS</a>]

00:12:06   other side of the country to the to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/726">TS</a>]

00:12:07   town where he grew up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/727">TS</a>]

00:12:08   the mother is a wreck that would be that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/728">TS</a>]

00:12:10   would be enough but the fact is that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/730">TS</a>]

00:12:12   killer escapes is basically killing his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/732">TS</a>]

00:12:16   way across the country to get to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/736">TS</a>]

00:12:18   meanwhile they're trying to adapt to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/738">TS</a>]

00:12:20   their new town so you've got all of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/740">TS</a>]

00:12:22   interpersonal dynamics of being a kid in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/742">TS</a>]

00:12:25   a new town trying to trying to a plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/745">TS</a>]

00:12:28   its where their father grew up so there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/748">TS</a>]

00:12:31   are some land mines about the families [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/751">TS</a>]

00:12:33   there too and then oh yes the killer who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/753">TS</a>]

00:12:36   is being supervised by a supernatural [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/756">TS</a>]

00:12:38   forest is going to come to the house [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/758">TS</a>]

00:12:41   named and finish the job and also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/761">TS</a>]

00:12:45   there's a voice in the bottom of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/765">TS</a>]

00:12:46   well saying bring me things right and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/766">TS</a>]

00:12:49   the back in theirs right introduced at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/769">TS</a>]

00:12:53   the end of the first chapter is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/773">TS</a>]

00:12:54   door that you walk through and you die [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/774">TS</a>]

00:12:57   yeah well that's a great moment where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/777">TS</a>]

00:13:01   that that's our introduction to the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/781">TS</a>]

00:13:02   magic keys is that there's there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/782">TS</a>]

00:13:04   gateway that sets your astral self free [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/784">TS</a>]

00:13:07   but by all accounts what happens is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/787">TS</a>]

00:13:09   basically your body collapses in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/789">TS</a>]

00:13:11   heat and it's like you died except that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/791">TS</a>]

00:13:12   your ghost and you get to go around and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/792">TS</a>]

00:13:14   see what's going on but it freaks out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/794">TS</a>]

00:13:16   the people who find your dead body right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/796">TS</a>]

00:13:19   mhm uh that with yeah yeah i mean which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/799">TS</a>]

00:13:22   is really cool and that's that's that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/802">TS</a>]

00:13:24   there there's our fantasy element I mean [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/804">TS</a>]

00:13:25   and there that's definitely here but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/805">TS</a>]

00:13:28   it's interesting that it's playing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/808">TS</a>]

00:13:29   all these other things like the kids the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/809">TS</a>]

00:13:31   kids story of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/811">TS</a>]

00:13:32   fleeing after a traumatic event and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/812">TS</a>]

00:13:34   trying to adapt to a town that would be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/814">TS</a>]

00:13:36   a story that would be good story on its [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/816">TS</a>]

00:13:38   own about effectively going from having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/818">TS</a>]

00:13:40   two parents to know parents as their mom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/820">TS</a>]

00:13:42   for all intents and purposes is checked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/822">TS</a>]

00:13:43   out yeah she's a drunk and basically yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/823">TS</a>]

00:13:46   i would argue she's big she's turned to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/826">TS</a>]

00:13:48   the bottle for understandable reasons [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/828">TS</a>]

00:13:49   but the net result is that she can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/829">TS</a>]

00:13:51   therefore she's she's she's not able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/831">TS</a>]

00:13:53   process [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/833">TS</a>]

00:13:54   no she's not able to parent right now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/834">TS</a>]

00:13:56   and so these poor kids have gone from to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/836">TS</a>]

00:13:58   parents to know parents have been thrust [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/838">TS</a>]

00:14:00   3,000 miles across country and like you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/840">TS</a>]

00:14:04   said that alone would actually make a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/844">TS</a>]

00:14:06   really good comic comic but then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/846">TS</a>]

00:14:08   throw in escapes spree killer and in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/848">TS</a>]

00:14:11   some certain supernatural elements and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/851">TS</a>]

00:14:14   that the backstory of living in Dad's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/854">TS</a>]

00:14:15   old house and the hints of the mysteries [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/855">TS</a>]

00:14:17   of them for example it's obvious and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/857">TS</a>]

00:14:20   telling that they do the tempest is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/860">TS</a>]

00:14:22   senior play and and there are clues to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/862">TS</a>]

00:14:24   future books in that shot of of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/864">TS</a>]

00:14:26   tempest and you're like a you know any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/866">TS</a>]

00:14:28   taxes brought up the dad there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/868">TS</a>]

00:14:30   there's a shot of the dad in the senior [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/870">TS</a>]

00:14:32   play and it's the gym mr. i wanted to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/872">TS</a>]

00:14:33   talk about the dad a little bit because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/873">TS</a>]

00:14:34   what one of the things that fascinates [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/874">TS</a>]

00:14:36   me about the series is that the dad is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/876">TS</a>]

00:14:38   pivotal figure and he's dead [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/878">TS</a>]

00:14:43   very very quickly right here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/883">TS</a>]

00:14:47   oh yeah quite rapidly he is dead and yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/887">TS</a>]

00:14:50   his shadow hangs over everything because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/890">TS</a>]

00:14:53   they end up in the town we see him as a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/893">TS</a>]

00:14:56   kid in the in the high school play of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/896">TS</a>]

00:14:58   the tempest and and over the course of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/898">TS</a>]

00:15:00   time you know what the history of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/900">TS</a>]

00:15:02   house and the history of this town are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/902">TS</a>]

00:15:04   matters a huge amount of the story but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/904">TS</a>]

00:15:08   it is kind of fascinating a narrative [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/908">TS</a>]

00:15:11   trick that you know we know he's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/911">TS</a>]

00:15:13   to be important at the very beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/913">TS</a>]

00:15:14   and he's immediately killed and that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/914">TS</a>]

00:15:15   doesn't make him any less important it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/915">TS</a>]

00:15:17   makes them kind of vitally important it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/917">TS</a>]

00:15:18   makes it more mystery to unravel yeah so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/918">TS</a>]

00:15:21   toward the end of of this volume there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/921">TS</a>]

00:15:24   is a great dialogue that i have come to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/924">TS</a>]

00:15:26   appreciate more and more as I've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/926">TS</a>]

00:15:28   more volumes of the series but it goes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/928">TS</a>]

00:15:31   for this whole how the whole first book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/931">TS</a>]

00:15:33   is designed howhow it's uh plotted which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/933">TS</a>]

00:15:36   is 11 of the sinister character shall we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/936">TS</a>]

00:15:39   say says you can't understand because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/939">TS</a>]

00:15:42   you're reading the last chapter of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/942">TS</a>]

00:15:44   something without having read the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/944">TS</a>]

00:15:45   chapter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/945">TS</a>]

00:15:46   you're a little you're a little guy bode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/946">TS</a>]

00:15:48   kids always think they're coming into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/948">TS</a>]

00:15:50   story at the beginning when usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/950">TS</a>]

00:15:51   they're coming in at the end and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/951">TS</a>]

00:15:53   definitely you know there are two ways [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/953">TS</a>]

00:15:56   to read this story we we're reading it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/956">TS</a>]

00:15:59   is the beginning of locking key this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/959">TS</a>]

00:16:01   this is going to be a six-part series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/961">TS</a>]

00:16:04   that tells a whole big story and so for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/964">TS</a>]

00:16:06   us it's the beginning but it's very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/966">TS</a>]

00:16:08   clear as you're reading it that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/968">TS</a>]

00:16:10   this whole undercurrent the story of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/970">TS</a>]

00:16:12   kids coming to the town is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/972">TS</a>]

00:16:13   beginning but they are inheriting all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/973">TS</a>]

00:16:17   this baggage that comes with their their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/977">TS</a>]

00:16:20   family's history and this house and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/980">TS</a>]

00:16:22   where the magic keys came from and all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/982">TS</a>]

00:16:25   of this stuff and and that really adds a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/985">TS</a>]

00:16:27   wonderful i think layer of foreboding of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/987">TS</a>]

00:16:29   you know god what are they getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/989">TS</a>]

00:16:31   themselves into their fleeing this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/991">TS</a>]

00:16:33   horrible event into the arms of MOR [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/993">TS</a>]

00:16:36   horribleness said the I i love that line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/996">TS</a>]

00:16:39   too and there's Pat I've only read the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/999">TS</a>]

00:16:42   first volume and so there's there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1002">TS</a>]

00:16:44   clear kind of foreshadowing that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1004">TS</a>]

00:16:47   father was involved in in some of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1007">TS</a>]

00:16:49   stuff before when he was a kid and so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1009">TS</a>]

00:16:52   are we starting deal with its a sins of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1012">TS</a>]

00:16:55   the father sort of story as it plays out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1015">TS</a>]

00:16:57   which is it is tough because you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1017">TS</a>]

00:16:59   the father is is killed at the beginning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1019">TS</a>]

00:17:01   and so you feel really really bad and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1021">TS</a>]

00:17:03   then as time goes on you're like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1023">TS</a>]

00:17:05   was he involved with this is not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1025">TS</a>]

00:17:06   spoiling anything to say that that shot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1026">TS</a>]

00:17:08   of everybody in that the photograph of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1028">TS</a>]

00:17:10   every one of the tempest you learn over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1030">TS</a>]

00:17:12   the next few volumes why it's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1032">TS</a>]

00:17:14   important to travel in there and what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1034">TS</a>]

00:17:16   happens to everybody in it so it talks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1036">TS</a>]

00:17:18   about how the fact that no one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1038">TS</a>]

00:17:20   generation is insulated from another I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1040">TS</a>]

00:17:22   getting chills just talking about this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1042">TS</a>]

00:17:24   stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1044">TS</a>]

00:17:25   I'm it literal Jill's well it is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1045">TS</a>]

00:17:28   refreshing in in an industry with comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1048">TS</a>]

00:17:31   especially where how shall I put this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1051">TS</a>]

00:17:33   delicately writers tend to make stuff up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1053">TS</a>]

00:17:36   you get the sense sometimes they have no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1056">TS</a>]

00:17:39   idea what they're doing and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1059">TS</a>]

00:17:40   making it up as they go along and with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1060">TS</a>]

00:17:43   lock and key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1063">TS</a>]

00:17:44   the more I've read it the more I know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1064">TS</a>]

00:17:47   that they this is a story that was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1067">TS</a>]

00:17:50   planned out to the detail and its really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1070">TS</a>]

00:17:54   refreshing to get that sense that you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1074">TS</a>]

00:17:55   in you know you're in the hands of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1075">TS</a>]

00:17:58   somebody who is really in complete [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1078">TS</a>]

00:17:59   control [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1079">TS</a>]

00:17:59   all of where the story is going because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1079">TS</a>]

00:18:02   there have been lots even though it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1082">TS</a>]

00:18:03   not it's not over yet and who knows what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1083">TS</a>]

00:18:05   the ending will be exactly but having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1085">TS</a>]

00:18:08   read a lot of a lot of this story now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1088">TS</a>]

00:18:10   five-sixths of this story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1090">TS</a>]

00:18:12   I don't feel at any point that I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1092">TS</a>]

00:18:15   gotten the sense that there's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1095">TS</a>]

00:18:17   trick played on me that in order to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1097">TS</a>]

00:18:20   figure out how the story goes the story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1100">TS</a>]

00:18:22   is a you know the story of solid and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1102">TS</a>]

00:18:26   reading back to the first volume only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1106">TS</a>]

00:18:29   reinforces it after i read more of it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1109">TS</a>]

00:18:31   which I really love because that doesn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1111">TS</a>]

00:18:32   you know you might see that in a 6 or 12 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1112">TS</a>]

00:18:34   issue miniseries but this is something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1114">TS</a>]

00:18:36   that's gonna last what is it going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1116">TS</a>]

00:18:38   37 issues and it's going to be it i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1118">TS</a>]

00:18:41   think solid all the way through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1121">TS</a>]

00:18:44   yeah I'm very often now it's it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1124">TS</a>]

00:18:46   it's an incredibly well thought-out [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1126">TS</a>]

00:18:48   series and i think one of the things I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1128">TS</a>]

00:18:50   like about it is that the art style that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1130">TS</a>]

00:18:54   gabriel rodriguez has there's something [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1134">TS</a>]

00:18:57   almost playful about the way he he does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1137">TS</a>]

00:18:59   a good job with the menace and all that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1139">TS</a>]

00:19:00   too but but the lines remind you a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1140">TS</a>]

00:19:02   of the the kind of playful almost anime [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1142">TS</a>]

00:19:04   aesthetic that began to hit comics in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1144">TS</a>]

00:19:07   the late nineties early aughts the last [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1147">TS</a>]

00:19:08   time comic book stores decided the girls [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1148">TS</a>]

00:19:10   were paying attention to and then you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1150">TS</a>]

00:19:12   have these books that were drawn with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1152">TS</a>]

00:19:13   you know girls bouncing ponytails and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1153">TS</a>]

00:19:15   people with big eyes and and bright [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1155">TS</a>]

00:19:17   shiny smiles and there's there's kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1157">TS</a>]

00:19:19   an element of that in here to which we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1159">TS</a>]

00:19:21   can get [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1161">TS</a>]

00:19:22   yeah and it underscores the horror so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1162">TS</a>]

00:19:24   nicely because it points out that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1164">TS</a>]

00:19:26   know all these surface appearances are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1166">TS</a>]

00:19:28   are showing you that things are are cute [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1168">TS</a>]

00:19:30   and no class and clean and and shiny and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1170">TS</a>]

00:19:34   actually they're not everything is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1174">TS</a>]

00:19:36   kind of rotting from the inside out or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1176">TS</a>]

00:19:37   being dragged down into pits of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1177">TS</a>]

00:19:40   Aimable evil bye-bye forces people don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1180">TS</a>]

00:19:42   understand but hey there hair looks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1182">TS</a>]

00:19:44   great what's happening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1184">TS</a>]

00:19:46   I have to get a lot of credit to give [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1186">TS</a>]

00:19:48   Rodriguez for um for being so consistent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1188">TS</a>]

00:19:52   with a with the characters now some part [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1192">TS</a>]

00:19:54   of this is over over all of these issues [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1194">TS</a>]

00:19:57   it is just him doing the art which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1197">TS</a>]

00:20:00   great because II a lot of series you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1200">TS</a>]

00:20:03   lose track of who's who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1203">TS</a>]

00:20:05   because they don't look the same anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1205">TS</a>]

00:20:06   and not only not only is it consistent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1206">TS</a>]

00:20:09   but he's drawn a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1209">TS</a>]

00:20:13   these characters that they are instantly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1213">TS</a>]

00:20:15   recognizable I don't know how even know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1215">TS</a>]

00:20:17   how to describe it other than to say [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1217">TS</a>]

00:20:18   that everybody looks like they look they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1218">TS</a>]

00:20:20   don't look like who which one is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1220">TS</a>]

00:20:23   you know which guy is that which girl is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1223">TS</a>]

00:20:25   that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:25   yeah you know you you know from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1225">TS</a>]

00:20:28   shape of their face from that did the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1228">TS</a>]

00:20:30   big you know who's got the big chin it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1230">TS</a>]

00:20:32   not even like what they're wearing from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1232">TS</a>]

00:20:33   their eyes or who bites your lip all the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1233">TS</a>]

00:20:35   time exactly or or who hunches in a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1235">TS</a>]

00:20:38   specific way and who sits easy and open [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1238">TS</a>]

00:20:40   and and he actually does a really great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1240">TS</a>]

00:20:43   job in just a few lines conveying a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1243">TS</a>]

00:20:48   this is a guy who the artist is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1248">TS</a>]

00:20:49   obviously studied body language a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1249">TS</a>]

00:20:51   because just the way people lean into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1251">TS</a>]

00:20:53   each other or lean into or out of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1253">TS</a>]

00:20:55   frame is incredibly telling the body [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1255">TS</a>]

00:20:58   language that he uses for LA through the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1258">TS</a>]

00:21:00   course of the series is heartbreaking in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1260">TS</a>]

00:21:04   a way I feel terrible for that to her [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1264">TS</a>]

00:21:06   and Elly Elly is a character went to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1266">TS</a>]

00:21:09   school with the kid's father and who's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1269">TS</a>]

00:21:12   now gives the track coach of the school [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1272">TS</a>]

00:21:14   right yeah and we we get such a limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1274">TS</a>]

00:21:19   peek into her in the first volume the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1279">TS</a>]

00:21:22   first few volumes actually and we don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1282">TS</a>]

00:21:25   know where this way without spoiling [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1285">TS</a>]

00:21:29   anything this this on Rails kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1289">TS</a>]

00:21:33   complacency where it's you know you you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1293">TS</a>]

00:21:36   wonder what could be compelling this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1296">TS</a>]

00:21:39   behavior what what could be behind all [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1299">TS</a>]

00:21:41   of this fear that's driven her into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1301">TS</a>]

00:21:44   almost Stepford ism yeah there's an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1304">TS</a>]

00:21:49   answer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1309">TS</a>]

00:21:50   there's an answer and it's horrifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1310">TS</a>]

00:21:52   there's an answer that is absolutely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1312">TS</a>]

00:21:53   horrifying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1313">TS</a>]

00:21:54   yeah that describes so much of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1314">TS</a>]

00:21:56   series one of the great things about le [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1316">TS</a>]

00:21:58   that she's the mother of Rufus who I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1318">TS</a>]

00:22:00   think is my favorite character I'm Jason [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1320">TS</a>]

00:22:02   Jason be i should say when you get to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1322">TS</a>]

00:22:04   vol.2 and beyond the only home talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1324">TS</a>]

00:22:07   about but it's one of those characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1327">TS</a>]

00:22:09   where you have to go back and and just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1329">TS</a>]

00:22:11   kind of genuflect at the altar Joe Hill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1331">TS</a>]

00:22:13   for how careful he's planned out the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1333">TS</a>]

00:22:16   character and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1336">TS</a>]

00:22:17   his specific personality traits and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1337">TS</a>]

00:22:20   everything he says because it is encoded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1340">TS</a>]

00:22:22   in like two or three layers of meaning [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1342">TS</a>]

00:22:24   so Jason you we've got it's great that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1344">TS</a>]

00:22:27   we've got you here who's only read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1347">TS</a>]

00:22:28   volume 1 and at some point we'll we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1348">TS</a>]

00:22:31   let you will put you in the chamber of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1351">TS</a>]

00:22:32   silence and and maybe discuss what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1352">TS</a>]

00:22:34   happens after but i'm interested in your [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1354">TS</a>]

00:22:35   take having you know if you've got more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1355">TS</a>]

00:22:37   to say about about what you think and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1357">TS</a>]

00:22:39   where you think this is going having [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1359">TS</a>]

00:22:40   only read volume 1 because it's hard for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1360">TS</a>]

00:22:42   me to think about this story especially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1362">TS</a>]

00:22:44   since i started with vol.4 about what my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1364">TS</a>]

00:22:48   take on it would have been because it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1368">TS</a>]

00:22:49   does it does progress and change and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1369">TS</a>]

00:22:51   shift gears over over the course of of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1371">TS</a>]

00:22:54   telling this story so you know what's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1374">TS</a>]

00:22:56   your take being a babe in the woods [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1376">TS</a>]

00:22:57   whose only read only one and i'm super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1377">TS</a>]

00:23:01   excited listening to you guys you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1381">TS</a>]

00:23:04   talk about where it's going in the fact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1384">TS</a>]

00:23:05   that it it it is satisfying because like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1385">TS</a>]

00:23:08   we've talked about on previous podcast [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1388">TS</a>]

00:23:10   there's a lot of stories that you feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1390">TS</a>]

00:23:11   halfway through the writer sort of lost [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1391">TS</a>]

00:23:13   their way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1393">TS</a>]

00:23:14   yeah and its net not a satisfying ending [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1394">TS</a>]

00:23:17   so I'm more anxious to read the rest of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1397">TS</a>]

00:23:19   them now so I found the the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1399">TS</a>]

00:23:24   chapter a little difficult on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1404">TS</a>]

00:23:29   artwork side at getting in because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1409">TS</a>]

00:23:31   the first you know several scenes are it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1411">TS</a>]

00:23:35   cuts between the present in the past the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1415">TS</a>]

00:23:39   farmhouse and the city and you're just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1419">TS</a>]

00:23:43   meeting the characters and so I had a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1423">TS</a>]

00:23:47   very kind of closely read it and once or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1427">TS</a>]

00:23:48   twice go back to be like oh is this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1428">TS</a>]

00:23:50   character that one which i found it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1430">TS</a>]

00:23:52   little bit difficult to get into the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1432">TS</a>]

00:23:53   story that they quickly went away by the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1433">TS</a>]

00:23:55   end of the first issue I was thinking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1435">TS</a>]

00:23:57   about that when you guys were talking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1437">TS</a>]

00:23:57   about the artwork because I completely [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1437">TS</a>]

00:24:01   agree as it went on the the artwork in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1441">TS</a>]

00:24:04   the simplicity of it in the sort of vary [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1444">TS</a>]

00:24:06   somewhat manga inspired style that was a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1446">TS</a>]

00:24:13   nice contrast to the absolute horror of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1453">TS</a>]

00:24:15   what was going on and made the horse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1455">TS</a>]

00:24:17   stuff seemed more horrific yes because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1457">TS</a>]

00:24:21   of its its cuteness [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1461">TS</a>]

00:24:25   I said I got a lot out of the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1465">TS</a>]

00:24:27   issue a lot of kind of foreboding you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1467">TS</a>]

00:24:29   know bad things happened in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1469">TS</a>]

00:24:31   issue and then they went away and they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1471">TS</a>]

00:24:35   got to Massachusetts you're like oh ok [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1475">TS</a>]

00:24:36   now now it's gonna be a story about them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1476">TS</a>]

00:24:39   getting their lives back together then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1479">TS</a>]

00:24:41   right and then they'd be the you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1481">TS</a>]

00:24:44   evil sort of follows them and you didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1484">TS</a>]

00:24:48   you see that the spirit in the the well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1488">TS</a>]

00:24:50   is the same one that's been manipulating [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1490">TS</a>]

00:24:52   the the guy who killed their father and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1492">TS</a>]

00:24:54   he's coming to get them and so there was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1494">TS</a>]

00:24:56   you see that the impending doom of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1496">TS</a>]

00:24:58   coming as well as the hints particularly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1498">TS</a>]

00:25:02   not a phrase that you mentioned Jason of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1502">TS</a>]

00:25:05   kids always think they're coming in at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1505">TS</a>]

00:25:07   the beginning of a story [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1507">TS</a>]

00:25:09   there's just so much foreboding that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1509">TS</a>]

00:25:12   think that's why i hadn't picked up the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1512">TS</a>]

00:25:13   second issue yet in the sense that like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1513">TS</a>]

00:25:15   you you feel like there's a car wreck [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1515">TS</a>]

00:25:18   coming and and it's hard to kind of want [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1518">TS</a>]

00:25:21   to pick up the next book to to see the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1521">TS</a>]

00:25:24   rack [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1524">TS</a>]

00:25:25   yeah you know yes I I see what you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1525">TS</a>]

00:25:30   saying that it definitely there is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1530">TS</a>]

00:25:32   sense that this is going to be things [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1532">TS</a>]

00:25:35   are going to get worse right otherwise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1535">TS</a>]

00:25:36   there wouldn't be a story there's going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1536">TS</a>]

00:25:38   to be more here [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1538">TS</a>]

00:25:39   what surprised me without giving too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1539">TS</a>]

00:25:40   much away is throughout the series the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1540">TS</a>]

00:25:45   ability for for each not just even each [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1545">TS</a>]

00:25:48   volume but each issue to shift gears and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1548">TS</a>]

00:25:51   tell stories almost it's almost Twilight [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1551">TS</a>]

00:25:54   Zone like we're while advancing his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1554">TS</a>]

00:25:57   general plot or painting in some of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1557">TS</a>]

00:26:01   background to to explain what's going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1561">TS</a>]

00:26:03   be happening later on he can take these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1563">TS</a>]

00:26:06   detours Joe hell does where where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1566">TS</a>]

00:26:09   there's an issue that is aa little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1569">TS</a>]

00:26:13   off format or even if its advancing the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1573">TS</a>]

00:26:15   story it's it's it's weirdly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1575">TS</a>]

00:26:17   self-contained it's like this is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1577">TS</a>]

00:26:19   issue where again not to give too much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1579">TS</a>]

00:26:21   away [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:21   this is the issue where they find the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1581">TS</a>]

00:26:23   key that lets them become animals right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1583">TS</a>]

00:26:26   that's like an issue and it's great and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1586">TS</a>]

00:26:30   it does advance the story but it's great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1590">TS</a>]

00:26:32   on its own and there's a there's the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1592">TS</a>]

00:26:34   issue that is the story is advancing but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1594">TS</a>]

00:26:37   there's the issue with them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1597">TS</a>]

00:26:38   the that the teacher the the black [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1598">TS</a>]

00:26:43   teacher who smokes a pipe and it's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1603">TS</a>]

00:26:47   you're flashing but when he was young [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1607">TS</a>]

00:26:48   and but he knew the kids and and so he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1608">TS</a>]

00:26:53   he knows the bad the identity of the bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1613">TS</a>]

00:26:55   person looking right and and there that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1615">TS</a>]

00:26:58   is advancing the plot but it's also got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1618">TS</a>]

00:27:00   this beautiful internal story almost it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1620">TS</a>]

00:27:02   reminded me of watchmen wear while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1622">TS</a>]

00:27:05   advancing the story there's that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1625">TS</a>]

00:27:06   some really artful self contained in an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1626">TS</a>]

00:27:09   issue like I feel like by the end I it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1629">TS</a>]

00:27:13   reference what happens at the very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1633">TS</a>]

00:27:14   beginning and it's beautiful and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1634">TS</a>]

00:27:15   sad and it's and and and there's a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1635">TS</a>]

00:27:18   of that there's an issue with like big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1638">TS</a>]

00:27:20   monsters fighting each other that's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1640">TS</a>]

00:27:22   like that's the issue so it that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1642">TS</a>]

00:27:25   that's the thing that surprised me about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1645">TS</a>]

00:27:26   it is all the overarching story is rough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1646">TS</a>]

00:27:28   and you know it is like evil trying to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1648">TS</a>]

00:27:31   defeat the forces of good basically but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1651">TS</a>]

00:27:34   inside it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1654">TS</a>]

00:27:35   he doesn't you know it's not a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1655">TS</a>]

00:27:37   relentless drive to that I guess is what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1657">TS</a>]

00:27:39   I'm saying there are some really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1659">TS</a>]

00:27:40   interesting things that are not quite [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1660">TS</a>]

00:27:42   diversions from the story because they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1662">TS</a>]

00:27:45   all I think matter but you don't feel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1665">TS</a>]

00:27:48   like you're just on this train track [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1668">TS</a>]

00:27:49   where it's just going to be every single [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1669">TS</a>]

00:27:51   issue is just boom boom boom hitting you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1671">TS</a>]

00:27:53   with the latest painful plot development [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1673">TS</a>]

00:27:56   which supported that I i really enjoyed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1676">TS</a>]

00:27:58   that that that in volume to volume 3 I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1678">TS</a>]

00:28:01   didn't feel like I was just getting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1681">TS</a>]

00:28:02   hammered with the latest terrible thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1682">TS</a>]

00:28:04   that the you know that the forces of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1684">TS</a>]

00:28:06   evil were we're trying to achieve nice [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1686">TS</a>]

00:28:08   and i did like the the last panel of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1688">TS</a>]

00:28:11   the first story arc where you see all of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1691">TS</a>]

00:28:14   the keys and yeah you sort of start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1694">TS</a>]

00:28:17   looking at them guessing i wonder what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1697">TS</a>]

00:28:18   that cadence I wonder what that kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1698">TS</a>]

00:28:20   oh yeah and some of them are a little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1700">TS</a>]

00:28:23   more self evident than others but you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1703">TS</a>]

00:28:24   still a boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1704">TS</a>]

00:28:27   there's a lot of kids going all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1707">TS</a>]

00:28:28   down ya know that the progression of how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1708">TS</a>]

00:28:31   they introduced us to these keys and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1711">TS</a>]

00:28:32   what they do is really interesting to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1712">TS</a>]

00:28:34   where Jason is saying that there are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1714">TS</a>]

00:28:36   some keys that we get an entire issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1716">TS</a>]

00:28:38   dedicated to what they do some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1718">TS</a>]

00:28:40   that we see and then they don't actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1720">TS</a>]

00:28:42   find the key for some time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1722">TS</a>]

00:28:45   others that are talked about and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1725">TS</a>]

00:28:46   suddenly discovered and then [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1726">TS</a>]

00:28:48   there's a run i can't remember which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1728">TS</a>]

00:28:50   volume it's in where we at one of my [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1730">TS</a>]

00:28:53   favorite bits of it i'll find it at some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1733">TS</a>]

00:28:55   point uh during the discussion where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1735">TS</a>]

00:28:58   they go through the month februari and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1738">TS</a>]

00:29:00   we have discovered a bunch of different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1740">TS</a>]

00:29:01   keys and we don't get a whole lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1741">TS</a>]

00:29:04   information other than look here the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1744">TS</a>]

00:29:06   kids covered in you know monsters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1746">TS</a>]

00:29:09   fighting them and one of them's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1749">TS</a>]

00:29:11   wings now and you get you get these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1751">TS</a>]

00:29:14   little vignettes with little other [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1754">TS</a>]

00:29:17   explanation just because you he he's got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1757">TS</a>]

00:29:21   the economy of story down to where he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1761">TS</a>]

00:29:24   doesn't have to give you the same kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1764">TS</a>]

00:29:25   of look they've discovered a new key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1765">TS</a>]

00:29:27   like to liken it to anime you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1767">TS</a>]

00:29:32   here's another dragon ball let's spend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1772">TS</a>]

00:29:34   eight hours on this you know because you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1774">TS</a>]

00:29:37   just you don't you don't have to do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1777">TS</a>]

00:29:39   every time but there are some of them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1779">TS</a>]

00:29:41   that it really it really does matter to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1781">TS</a>]

00:29:45   know not just what they do but why they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1785">TS</a>]

00:29:49   were created s williams in the chatroom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1789">TS</a>]

00:29:51   says that's in look for in volume for i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1791">TS</a>]

00:29:54   love us William and and that echoes to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1794">TS</a>]

00:29:58   what i was saying earlier too thanks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1798">TS</a>]

00:29:59   because i forgot mad at a that issue but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1799">TS</a>]

00:30:01   that's another thing that's it's you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1801">TS</a>]

00:30:03   know it's not it's off format got enough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1803">TS</a>]

00:30:05   that the end of volume 3 is deeply [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1805">TS</a>]

00:30:07   awfully disturbing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1807">TS</a>]

00:30:08   um there's a lot of disturbing to go to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1808">TS</a>]

00:30:11   go along but but then then they mix it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1811">TS</a>]

00:30:14   up right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1814">TS</a>]

00:30:15   you know it's it's I'll i really like it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1815">TS</a>]

00:30:17   I mean I i have to say just I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1817">TS</a>]

00:30:20   very impressed with all of it and yet i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1820">TS</a>]

00:30:23   read vol.5 today and you know afterward [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1823">TS</a>]

00:30:28   I felt kind of antsy and kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1828">TS</a>]

00:30:31   disturbed like i need to i need to to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1831">TS</a>]

00:30:34   calm down except you know and and not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1834">TS</a>]

00:30:37   think about for a while you start going [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1837">TS</a>]

00:30:38   to do a podcast about later so right but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1838">TS</a>]

00:30:40   but there it is affecting and I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1840">TS</a>]

00:30:43   it's a good I think a good way I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1843">TS</a>]

00:30:44   it's powerful but it's it's you know it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1844">TS</a>]

00:30:47   can be tough stuff it's it's kinda [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1847">TS</a>]

00:30:49   unflinching this is not i have no great [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1849">TS</a>]

00:30:51   confidence that everybody is going to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1851">TS</a>]

00:30:53   everything is going to end up ok at the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1853">TS</a>]

00:30:54   end right number [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1854">TS</a>]

00:30:57   none known for its that impending doom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1857">TS</a>]

00:31:01   thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1861">TS</a>]

00:31:02   yeah if he follows in his dad's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1862">TS</a>]

00:31:03   footsteps there's always going to be a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1863">TS</a>]

00:31:05   sacrifice because that's that's been a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1865">TS</a>]

00:31:06   theme and in in stephen king's work is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1866">TS</a>]

00:31:10   is that sacrifice is always required to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1870">TS</a>]

00:31:14   lay down evil and even then it's usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1874">TS</a>]

00:31:16   temporary and i would not be surprised [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1876">TS</a>]

00:31:18   if joe hill if that resonates with him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1878">TS</a>]

00:31:21   since from the three volumes I've read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1881">TS</a>]

00:31:24   so far one of the things that seems to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1884">TS</a>]

00:31:25   come up as if your glory and honor and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1885">TS</a>]

00:31:27   privilege is a horrible price to be paid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1887">TS</a>]

00:31:29   for it later and it seems to me that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1889">TS</a>]

00:31:33   balance is probably going to come due by [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1893">TS</a>]

00:31:34   the end of the book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1894">TS</a>]

00:31:35   yeah yeah there will be an ending that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1895">TS</a>]

00:31:37   I'm sure it's really satisfying on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1897">TS</a>]

00:31:39   storyteller level and I i think it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1899">TS</a>]

00:31:40   applies a little bit heartbreaking an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1900">TS</a>]

00:31:42   emotional level but i'm not sure happy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1902">TS</a>]

00:31:44   will ever be like it to it probably yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1904">TS</a>]

00:31:47   probably not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1907">TS</a>]

00:31:49   fairway solitaire by big fish is a witty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1909">TS</a>]

00:31:51   and addictive golf theme card game on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1911">TS</a>]

00:31:54   iOS it offers players a ton of fresh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1914">TS</a>]

00:31:56   content over 70 unique courses with over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1916">TS</a>]

00:31:59   350 different solitary puzzles and new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1919">TS</a>]

00:32:02   challenges every single day adding to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1922">TS</a>]

00:32:05   the challenge of the puzzles is a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1925">TS</a>]

00:32:06   mischievous gopher known as McDivitt his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1926">TS</a>]

00:32:09   goal is to fight you every step of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1929">TS</a>]

00:32:11   way to avenge his ancestor brave tooth [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1931">TS</a>]

00:32:14   and what you're thinking solitaries lame [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1934">TS</a>]

00:32:16   Golf is boring and you might be right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1936">TS</a>]

00:32:18   but this game is the real thing very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1938">TS</a>]

00:32:20   salt air was the winner of the IG and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1940">TS</a>]

00:32:23   people's choice award for the best [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1943">TS</a>]

00:32:24   mobile card game into 2012 is that a big [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1944">TS</a>]

00:32:28   deal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1948">TS</a>]

00:32:29   the fairway solitaire team is not sure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1949">TS</a>]

00:32:30   themselves but they're pretty stoked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1950">TS</a>]

00:32:32   about this achievement anyway more than [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1952">TS</a>]

00:32:34   40,000 people have given it a five star [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1954">TS</a>]

00:32:36   rating on iTunes ken Levine of bioshock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1956">TS</a>]

00:32:39   tweeted I finished very solitary on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1959">TS</a>]

00:32:41   ipad there i'm not ashamed to say it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1961">TS</a>]

00:32:43   Penny Arcade says this game is awesome [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1963">TS</a>]

00:32:46   you can google it if you think they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1966">TS</a>]

00:32:47   making this stuff up fairy salt air is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1967">TS</a>]

00:32:50   available now in the App Store for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1970">TS</a>]

00:32:51   iPhone iPod touch and iPad join more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1971">TS</a>]

00:32:55   than 1 million people who are actively [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1975">TS</a>]

00:32:57   playing fairway solitaire for a limited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1977">TS</a>]

00:32:59   time only get a free code for the full [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1979">TS</a>]

00:33:01   version on the iphone and ipod visit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1981">TS</a>]

00:33:05   giveaway dot fairway solitaire dot-com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1985">TS</a>]

00:33:07   to get your free code giveaway at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1987">TS</a>]

00:33:10   fairway solitaire com [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1990">TS</a>]

00:33:12   there's this brief stylistic detour [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1992">TS</a>]

00:33:17   where they actually pay tribute to Bill [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1997">TS</a>]

00:33:19   Watterson in this comic of all comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/1999">TS</a>]

00:33:22   they they they do a little a little bit [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2002">TS</a>]

00:33:26   in tribute to Bill Watterson volume for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2006">TS</a>]

00:33:29   that whereas you would not expect a a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2009">TS</a>]

00:33:33   direct calvin and hobbes art-style [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2013">TS</a>]

00:33:35   dommage to go over with this subject [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2015">TS</a>]

00:33:38   matter it it kind of worked perfectly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2018">TS</a>]

00:33:41   well Calvin and Hobbes and her friends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2021">TS</a>]

00:33:44   are kind of a horror strip so it is it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2024">TS</a>]

00:33:50   is it away when you think about it boy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2030">TS</a>]

00:33:52   is going to get mauled by that tiger at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2032">TS</a>]

00:33:53   any moment [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2033">TS</a>]

00:33:55   no it's that boy is going to be forced [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2035">TS</a>]

00:33:57   to take a lot of medication you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2037">TS</a>]

00:33:58   special school at any moment that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2038">TS</a>]

00:34:00   pretty much the better because the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2040">TS</a>]

00:34:02   Tigers real no it's it's it's actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2042">TS</a>]

00:34:06   it's a great it's a great strip that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2046">TS</a>]

00:34:07   emphasizes the imagine supporters of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2047">TS</a>]

00:34:09   childhood and how freaking scary growing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2049">TS</a>]

00:34:11   up is and since one of the themes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2051">TS</a>]

00:34:14   through locking key is also that growing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2054">TS</a>]

00:34:16   up even when you aren't dealing with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2056">TS</a>]

00:34:18   homicidal maniacs and the fiendish fake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2058">TS</a>]

00:34:22   fingers of the evil undead that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2062">TS</a>]

00:34:23   growing up is really tough [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2063">TS</a>]

00:34:24   um it's kind of in the same job it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2064">TS</a>]

00:34:27   kind of in the same sympathetic vein so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2067">TS</a>]

00:34:29   it makes a lot of sense to me i can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2069">TS</a>]

00:34:30   wait to read it but i liked about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2070">TS</a>]

00:34:32   series was what i expected before i read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2072">TS</a>]

00:34:35   it to that from the first couple of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2075">TS</a>]

00:34:37   pages to the end completely changed and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2077">TS</a>]

00:34:41   continue to change in the way you guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2081">TS</a>]

00:34:42   are talking about it now it seems like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2082">TS</a>]

00:34:45   there's all these different levels [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2085">TS</a>]

00:34:47   beyond the foreboding doom [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2087">TS</a>]

00:34:49   yes in addition to before in addition [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2089">TS</a>]

00:34:51   yeah but in the fact they do the side [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2091">TS</a>]

00:34:54   trips and things like that you know the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2094">TS</a>]

00:34:56   the comic series it's somewhat reminding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2096">TS</a>]

00:34:59   me of is the Sandman perhaps not as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2099">TS</a>]

00:35:03   pretentiously but the fact that there's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2103">TS</a>]

00:35:07   there's you know in the Sandman they set [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2107">TS</a>]

00:35:09   up this mythology and in here locking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2109">TS</a>]

00:35:11   key it's it's sort of the keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2111">TS</a>]

00:35:13   yeah that that provide a framework but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2113">TS</a>]

00:35:15   there's it's more than that and then the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2115">TS</a>]

00:35:17   that's just a platform for telling these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2117">TS</a>]

00:35:19   other stories you know i still only read [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2119">TS</a>]

00:35:22   like the first 12 issues of Sandman I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2122">TS</a>]

00:35:24   know that's sacrilege [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2124">TS</a>]

00:35:26   I know it's not at all i'm saying is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2126">TS</a>]

00:35:28   jason is a fantastic opportunity because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2128">TS</a>]

00:35:30   we could totally do a reread and I'd [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2130">TS</a>]

00:35:31   love to get your opinion and there's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2131">TS</a>]

00:35:33   new Sandman story coming out in the next [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2133">TS</a>]

00:35:34   couple of months [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2134">TS</a>]

00:35:36   well we should we should get them on the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2136">TS</a>]

00:35:37   calendar because then I can be your test [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2137">TS</a>]

00:35:38   case like Jason is our test case of what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2138">TS</a>]

00:35:40   if you've only read one volume of lock [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2140">TS</a>]

00:35:42   and key i will be your new reader of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2142">TS</a>]

00:35:44   Sandman i love Neil Gaiman to I really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2144">TS</a>]

00:35:47   have liked his novels so I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2147">TS</a>]

00:35:50   probably read the thing that made him [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2150">TS</a>]

00:35:51   famous right probably you shovel you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2151">TS</a>]

00:35:54   should and fruit for those who have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2154">TS</a>]

00:35:55   in Sandman withdrawal for a long while [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2155">TS</a>]

00:35:59   this is actually a really great antidote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2159">TS</a>]

00:36:01   to that sickness i I'm gonna be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2161">TS</a>]

00:36:03   sacrilegious and it into this is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2163">TS</a>]

00:36:05   the comic the comics community comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2165">TS</a>]

00:36:07   after the torches and i'll actually like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2167">TS</a>]

00:36:09   this better than Sandman um but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2169">TS</a>]

00:36:12   Jason needs to reach you for weeks i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2172">TS</a>]

00:36:14   think that maybe people clutching their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2174">TS</a>]

00:36:16   pearls and live to she had no taste but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2176">TS</a>]

00:36:18   there's a lot of reasons for that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2178">TS</a>]

00:36:20   I'd be happy to either expand them on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2180">TS</a>]

00:36:22   twitter or in private correspondence or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2182">TS</a>]

00:36:24   something but i think there are like i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2184">TS</a>]

00:36:26   said i think game is a brilliant writer [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2186">TS</a>]

00:36:28   and I like that he does the same thing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2188">TS</a>]

00:36:30   Elmore does where they blindly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2190">TS</a>]

00:36:32   re-appropriate and mix up elements from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2192">TS</a>]

00:36:35   history and literature and there's kind [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2195">TS</a>]

00:36:37   of that hey that guy moment when you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2197">TS</a>]

00:36:38   realize that they're dealing with you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2198">TS</a>]

00:36:39   know ancient mythology and it's casual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2199">TS</a>]

00:36:42   incorporate into modern life but I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2202">TS</a>]

00:36:44   there's a streak of nastiness and gaming [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2204">TS</a>]

00:36:45   score that that I find kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2205">TS</a>]

00:36:47   off-putting so and although again I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2207">TS</a>]

00:36:51   stand by my assessment that Joe Hill's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2211">TS</a>]

00:36:52   not sentimental i think that he has a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2212">TS</a>]

00:36:55   lot of compassion for the for the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2215">TS</a>]

00:36:57   weakness of the human condition and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2217">TS</a>]

00:36:59   just empathize that a lot better than I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2219">TS</a>]

00:37:01   do with with the game in that approach [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2221">TS</a>]

00:37:05   you know i can actually see that is the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2225">TS</a>]

00:37:07   the there's a lot more heart in lock and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2227">TS</a>]

00:37:11   key where the Sandman is good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2231">TS</a>]

00:37:14   it always stays it's somewhat of an [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2234">TS</a>]

00:37:15   intellectual layer even when it has [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2235">TS</a>]

00:37:18   pretty compelling characters you know I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2238">TS</a>]

00:37:20   would strike strikes me about it and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2240">TS</a>]

00:37:22   again I need to read more Sandman but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2242">TS</a>]

00:37:23   having read a little bit of it is that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2243">TS</a>]

00:37:25   it struck me as being very kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2245">TS</a>]

00:37:27   fantastical and removed and got this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2247">TS</a>]

00:37:29   dark Kenneth kind of world of well it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2249">TS</a>]

00:37:33   very for voting and all of that in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2253">TS</a>]

00:37:35   butt lock and key you know is and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2255">TS</a>]

00:37:37   goes to again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2257">TS</a>]

00:37:39   chill is a really good writer but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2259">TS</a>]

00:37:41   thinking of him as as also in that in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2261">TS</a>]

00:37:43   the Stephen King family [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2263">TS</a>]

00:37:46   stylistically not just literally stephen [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2266">TS</a>]

00:37:50   king and and lucky is like this too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2270">TS</a>]

00:37:52   it's set in a in a real world that is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2272">TS</a>]

00:37:56   then thats got this monday anity to it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2276">TS</a>]

00:37:58   and then it's got this layer of kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2278">TS</a>]

00:38:00   horror on top of it or weirdness and end [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2280">TS</a>]

00:38:03   and it doesn't feel like a magical world [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2283">TS</a>]

00:38:06   even though there's magic in it whereas [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2286">TS</a>]

00:38:08   the the Sandman that I've read anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2288">TS</a>]

00:38:11   it feels like a you know magical [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2291">TS</a>]

00:38:12   fairytale world in its like you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2292">TS</a>]

00:38:15   almost like you're coming from a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2295">TS</a>]

00:38:16   complete completely opposite direction [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2296">TS</a>]

00:38:18   to get to your story from the two of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2298">TS</a>]

00:38:20   them this is like our world with magic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2300">TS</a>]

00:38:22   in it and the Sandman always seem to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2302">TS</a>]

00:38:24   like a fairytale world yeah yeah which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2304">TS</a>]

00:38:28   is not necessarily bad or good just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2308">TS</a>]

00:38:31   different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2311">TS</a>]

00:38:32   it's because the Sandman was told from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2312">TS</a>]

00:38:34   that point of view right the main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2314">TS</a>]

00:38:35   characters are the otherworldly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2315">TS</a>]

00:38:37   characters writer the main characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2317">TS</a>]

00:38:39   are us are these kids yeah well these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2319">TS</a>]

00:38:41   these kids having this at adventure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2321">TS</a>]

00:38:44   Lisa your husband is an a's fan and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2324">TS</a>]

00:38:47   those zones neighs hat to do ever did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2327">TS</a>]

00:38:49   you have issues with the fact that one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2329">TS</a>]

00:38:50   of our main characters whereas days had [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2330">TS</a>]

00:38:52   all the time I like I don't like the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2332">TS</a>]

00:38:54   fact that it was said in a part of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2334">TS</a>]

00:38:55   northern california that's not you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2335">TS</a>]

00:38:57   wall-to-wall millionaires or pixar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2337">TS</a>]

00:38:59   employees or whatever to valley is where [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2339">TS</a>]

00:39:01   they started [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2341">TS</a>]

00:39:02   yeah why I thought it was a i thought [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2342">TS</a>]

00:39:05   was a north lisa Noah oh I think I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2345">TS</a>]

00:39:08   thought it was like it was it was better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2348">TS</a>]

00:39:10   was it like up in like chico or similar [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2350">TS</a>]

00:39:11   but anyway yeah it's not your usual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2351">TS</a>]

00:39:13   Northern California several northern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2353">TS</a>]

00:39:14   california and i just got back from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2354">TS</a>]

00:39:17   spending two days of in door county so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2357">TS</a>]

00:39:19   you know I drove through a lot of that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2359">TS</a>]

00:39:20   area too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2360">TS</a>]

00:39:21   it's nice to see a depiction of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2361">TS</a>]

00:39:22   California that's not either [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2362">TS</a>]

00:39:25   stereotypical Southern California [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2365">TS</a>]

00:39:27   stereotypical san francisco bay area [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2367">TS</a>]

00:39:30   I don't know if the the creative team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2370">TS</a>]

00:39:32   came out and actually spent some time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2372">TS</a>]

00:39:33   knocking around the area or if it's just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2373">TS</a>]

00:39:36   a lot of well educated guesswork apart [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2376">TS</a>]

00:39:38   but i think they really nailed it was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2378">TS</a>]

00:39:40   nice to see ya know Jason breaking I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2380">TS</a>]

00:39:43   I hadn't thought about this series that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2383">TS</a>]

00:39:44   may actually make your head explode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2384">TS</a>]

00:39:45   since we've gone back and forth on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2385">TS</a>]

00:39:47   preacher but how [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2387">TS</a>]

00:39:49   what was striking me is again since this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2389">TS</a>]

00:39:51   is a really distinctive visual style for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2391">TS</a>]

00:39:53   from both the characters and the artist [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2393">TS</a>]

00:39:54   as i thought you know the last time that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2394">TS</a>]

00:39:56   I associated book this strong with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2396">TS</a>]

00:39:58   artist who is consistent all the way [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2398">TS</a>]

00:39:59   through with steve dillon although to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2399">TS</a>]

00:40:01   fair with dylan always characters look [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2401">TS</a>]

00:40:03   like because they all have the same [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2403">TS</a>]

00:40:04   shall copy the fish but but they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2404">TS</a>]

00:40:07   they're always there there is you have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2407">TS</a>]

00:40:09   to beat the Dillon has this really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2409">TS</a>]

00:40:10   distinctive style where you know you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2410">TS</a>]

00:40:12   look like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2412">TS</a>]

00:40:13   yep that's a steve dillon buck did to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2413">TS</a>]

00:40:16   that consistency did you find that when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2416">TS</a>]

00:40:18   you're going through the the first trade [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2418">TS</a>]

00:40:20   or yeah I i did i'll see I wouldn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2420">TS</a>]

00:40:25   compare it to dylan's stuff just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2425">TS</a>]

00:40:28   stylistically my brain can go there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2428">TS</a>]

00:40:30   gotten it but there was I mean the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2430">TS</a>]

00:40:36   artwork was very consistent in the first [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2436">TS</a>]

00:40:39   issue but I think it was just the pacing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2439">TS</a>]

00:40:40   of the first couple of pages made it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2440">TS</a>]

00:40:42   difficult for me to get in and I'm not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2442">TS</a>]

00:40:44   sure that was actually unintentional [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2444">TS</a>]

00:40:46   because then once you did work to sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2446">TS</a>]

00:40:48   of get in and understand then you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2448">TS</a>]

00:40:49   hooked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2449">TS</a>]

00:40:50   yeah I can't see any preacher in sorry [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2450">TS</a>]

00:40:51   no because it was just basically maybe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2451">TS</a>]

00:40:55   it was the square square jaw in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2455">TS</a>]

00:40:57   young man but no there was just kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2457">TS</a>]

00:40:59   there was such a marvelous some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2459">TS</a>]

00:41:01   aesthetic consistency that again the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2461">TS</a>]

00:41:03   first thing I thought of was was they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2463">TS</a>]

00:41:05   had that that same consistency of line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2465">TS</a>]

00:41:06   and preacher but story-wise there no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2466">TS</a>]

00:41:09   resemblance to each other whatsoever the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2469">TS</a>]

00:41:11   i actually had to be on IDW's website [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2471">TS</a>]

00:41:14   right now on there they're locking key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2474">TS</a>]

00:41:16   page and not only can you buy the books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2476">TS</a>]

00:41:18   you can actually buy replicas of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2478">TS</a>]

00:41:21   keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2481">TS</a>]

00:41:22   oh of course you can oh my god that that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2482">TS</a>]

00:41:26   uh that would frighten me actually I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2486">TS</a>]

00:41:27   don't want those keys in my house now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2487">TS</a>]

00:41:29   that somebody will come and kill me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2489">TS</a>]

00:41:31   not even the gender key know you buy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2491">TS</a>]

00:41:33   them just so that you can melt them down [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2493">TS</a>]

00:41:35   it doesn't the price is too high the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2495">TS</a>]

00:41:37   price and I time machine there's a time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2497">TS</a>]

00:41:39   there's a time machine key to the price [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2499">TS</a>]

00:41:41   as to why that the evil beings will come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2501">TS</a>]

00:41:44   and oh no no no place in this keys are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2504">TS</a>]

00:41:49   super creepy looking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2509">TS</a>]

00:41:51   yes yeah they have the replica of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2511">TS</a>]

00:41:53   head key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2513">TS</a>]

00:41:54   well that's good because it is key Oh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2514">TS</a>]

00:41:56   Lord that's because it's made of diamond [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2516">TS</a>]

00:41:57   metal but you haven't read that part yet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2517">TS</a>]

00:42:00   anyway [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2520">TS</a>]

00:42:01   maybe they're here surprise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2521">TS</a>]

00:42:02   to see you you learn where the metal [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2522">TS</a>]

00:42:04   comes from that makes the keys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2524">TS</a>]

00:42:06   that's how crazy this this this story is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2526">TS</a>]

00:42:09   because unicorns have to poop somewhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2529">TS</a>]

00:42:11   right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2531">TS</a>]

00:42:13   maybe i'm being misleading so I I'd like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2533">TS</a>]

00:42:16   to ask before we go to ask everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2536">TS</a>]

00:42:17   that music question what are you reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2537">TS</a>]

00:42:20   which i'm not going to sing it's not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2540">TS</a>]

00:42:21   that musical because i always like to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2541">TS</a>]

00:42:23   hear what everybody whatever is reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2543">TS</a>]

00:42:25   and if there's something that I should I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2545">TS</a>]

00:42:27   should be looking for in the at the at [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2547">TS</a>]

00:42:29   the comic shop or as i call it the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2549">TS</a>]

00:42:31   comics app in my ipad Lisa what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2551">TS</a>]

00:42:35   reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:35   I just finished up bryan woods run on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2555">TS</a>]

00:42:39   Northlanders i don't know if i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2559">TS</a>]

00:42:42   talked about this series for or not i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2562">TS</a>]

00:42:46   should also point out that i'm a big fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2566">TS</a>]

00:42:48   of brand was work in general but North [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2568">TS</a>]

00:42:51   lenders is it's a comic book series that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2571">TS</a>]

00:42:54   vertical pushed out of course and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2574">TS</a>]

00:42:56   basically it's about Vikings and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2576">TS</a>]

00:42:59   not contiguous there's a number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2579">TS</a>]

00:43:01   distinct series arcs for example the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2581">TS</a>]

00:43:03   first collection focuses around a guy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2583">TS</a>]

00:43:06   named Spencer and the returned who comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2586">TS</a>]

00:43:08   back to take who wages organ somebody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2588">TS</a>]

00:43:12   who kicked him out of a Viking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2592">TS</a>]

00:43:13   settlement a long time ago they cover [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2593">TS</a>]

00:43:15   mission that they cover early Christian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2595">TS</a>]

00:43:18   monks with the cross in the hammer on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2598">TS</a>]

00:43:20   there is up the volume i just finished [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2600">TS</a>]

00:43:24   which is the Icelandic trilogy wrapped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2604">TS</a>]

00:43:25   up the whole series and it's about five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2605">TS</a>]

00:43:29   different generations of Icelandic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2609">TS</a>]

00:43:30   sellers from the first Norwegians who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2610">TS</a>]

00:43:32   came over escaping a political about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2612">TS</a>]

00:43:35   political situation on a around one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2615">TS</a>]

00:43:38   thing around AD 1000 possible before and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2618">TS</a>]

00:43:41   it goes down to the success of five [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2621">TS</a>]

00:43:43   generations and how they basically come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2623">TS</a>]

00:43:45   to rule the island throught through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2625">TS</a>]

00:43:47   terror and ignorance and the writing is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2627">TS</a>]

00:43:51   it again not a sentimental series the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2631">TS</a>]

00:43:53   writing is often for a pitiless but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2633">TS</a>]

00:43:55   one of the things he returns to over and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2635">TS</a>]

00:43:57   over again is how civilization that the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2637">TS</a>]

00:43:59   the trappings of civilization that we [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2639">TS</a>]

00:44:02   all take for granted were kindled and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2642">TS</a>]

00:44:04   stops and starts during a period of time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2644">TS</a>]

00:44:07   when life was very harsh and the weather [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2647">TS</a>]

00:44:09   was terrible and and the culture was was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2649">TS</a>]

00:44:11   very much an honor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2651">TS</a>]

00:44:12   honor driven one and the things people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2652">TS</a>]

00:44:14   do to survive and thrive and the balance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2654">TS</a>]

00:44:18   between the atavistic impulses that will [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2658">TS</a>]

00:44:19   keep you alive verses from the more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2659">TS</a>]

00:44:23   abstract human intellect it intellectual [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2663">TS</a>]

00:44:25   impulses are sentiments that have come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2665">TS</a>]

00:44:28   to define humanity as well the concept [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2668">TS</a>]

00:44:30   and at end of civilization and again i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2670">TS</a>]

00:44:34   repeat Vikings so no biking's right no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2674">TS</a>]

00:44:37   one kind of like through line with with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2677">TS</a>]

00:44:39   it sort of sort of automatically linked [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2679">TS</a>]

00:44:42   they're all about Vikings but sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2682">TS</a>]

00:44:43   different stories being told about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2683">TS</a>]

00:44:45   tonight yes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2685">TS</a>]

00:44:46   yeah there's one that set the Faroe [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2686">TS</a>]

00:44:47   Islands there's another one that said [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2687">TS</a>]

00:44:49   there's some other set in Iceland there [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2689">TS</a>]

00:44:50   are some that are settin on during the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2690">TS</a>]

00:44:52   period the periodic sackings of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2692">TS</a>]

00:44:54   British Isles things like that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2694">TS</a>]

00:44:55   oh there's one about set called the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2695">TS</a>]

00:44:58   plague window which is set in Russia and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2698">TS</a>]

00:45:00   deals with what happens to a woman who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2700">TS</a>]

00:45:03   who is widowed again during a plague in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2703">TS</a>]

00:45:05   what she has to do to survive and fend [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2705">TS</a>]

00:45:06   off the attentions of the vigilantes who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2706">TS</a>]

00:45:09   have taken over the village in the wake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2709">TS</a>]

00:45:11   of every figure of authority dying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2711">TS</a>]

00:45:13   during a plague [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2713">TS</a>]

00:45:14   well they do return to spend in one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2714">TS</a>]

00:45:16   volume send the immoral where he has to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2716">TS</a>]

00:45:18   fend off a challenge to our that he ends [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2718">TS</a>]

00:45:20   up settling but there's no one main [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2720">TS</a>]

00:45:22   character I mean if anything the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2722">TS</a>]

00:45:23   characters kind of the the Viking ethos [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2723">TS</a>]

00:45:26   and it the earliest story i think is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2726">TS</a>]

00:45:31   setting about 780 ad and that it usually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2731">TS</a>]

00:45:34   runs to about 1,100 so it's it's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2734">TS</a>]

00:45:36   really bloody really brutal period of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2736">TS</a>]

00:45:38   history and it's also fascinating one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2738">TS</a>]

00:45:41   because you're talking about a culture [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2741">TS</a>]

00:45:43   that had rammed up repeatedly against [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2743">TS</a>]

00:45:46   the Roman Empire and this is another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2746">TS</a>]

00:45:49   Roman parking spot was also be to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2749">TS</a>]

00:45:50   crumble and so this is about what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2750">TS</a>]

00:45:52   happens to people who are kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2752">TS</a>]

00:45:53   whipsawed between all of these these [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2753">TS</a>]

00:45:54   different forces scrambling to to grab [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2754">TS</a>]

00:45:58   grab resources in a really dark attic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2758">TS</a>]

00:46:01   time [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2761">TS</a>]

00:46:02   alright so it's 5050 issues collected as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2762">TS</a>]

00:46:06   seven trade paperbacks i have from [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2766">TS</a>]

00:46:09   right-handers yeah I have like I have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2769">TS</a>]

00:46:12   like to them on hand i think of another [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2772">TS</a>]

00:46:13   five bird in my collaborator fibroid in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2773">TS</a>]

00:46:15   my collection somewhere and i really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2775">TS</a>]

00:46:18   like bryan woods work in general because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2778">TS</a>]

00:46:21   he also wrote [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2781">TS</a>]

00:46:23   I think he did he do that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2783">TS</a>]

00:46:26   let's c MZ he got black sure you don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2786">TS</a>]

00:46:29   want which one I really like is local [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2789">TS</a>]

00:46:30   um yea which was done with ryan kelly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2790">TS</a>]

00:46:34   and actually jason i think you would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2794">TS</a>]

00:46:37   really like that Jason you would really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2797">TS</a>]

00:46:38   like local because it follows the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2798">TS</a>]

00:46:40   adventures of one woman through about a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2800">TS</a>]

00:46:41   decade of her life from college through [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2801">TS</a>]

00:46:44   to about age 30 and she bounces around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2804">TS</a>]

00:46:47   the country and what happens to her and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2807">TS</a>]

00:46:50   and what happens around her and um the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2810">TS</a>]

00:46:52   theme within the theme of that series is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2812">TS</a>]

00:46:54   is I mean that the overall morale is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2814">TS</a>]

00:46:57   there's no such thing as a geographic [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2817">TS</a>]

00:46:58   cure because wherever you go there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2818">TS</a>]

00:46:59   are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2819">TS</a>]

00:47:00   but under the but another one of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2820">TS</a>]

00:47:01   themes is that place can shape you more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2821">TS</a>]

00:47:03   subtly than you can imagine and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2823">TS</a>]

00:47:05   often don't realize that until you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2825">TS</a>]

00:47:07   actually the place but yeah Brian would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2827">TS</a>]

00:47:09   also does DMC which i was reading for a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2829">TS</a>]

00:47:11   while um I don't remember why I stopped [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2831">TS</a>]

00:47:13   you picked up again but he's a he's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2833">TS</a>]

00:47:17   he's got a for lack of better he's got a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2837">TS</a>]

00:47:19   really nice fresh modern sensibility and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2839">TS</a>]

00:47:23   keep he doesn't bring that to bear on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2843">TS</a>]

00:47:25   the vikings but he does do a great job [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2845">TS</a>]

00:47:28   of casting their societal arms into a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2848">TS</a>]

00:47:31   perspective that modernize connection [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2851">TS</a>]

00:47:33   modern eyes and anna and mentalities can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2853">TS</a>]

00:47:36   understand and rock and I think that's a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2856">TS</a>]

00:47:38   real gift for any storytelling to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2858">TS</a>]

00:47:40   able to take a history to be able to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2860">TS</a>]

00:47:42   take any historic period and put into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2862">TS</a>]

00:47:44   context for somebody who's coming at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2864">TS</a>]

00:47:45   from from their own you know many many [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2865">TS</a>]

00:47:48   centuries removed perspective so yeah I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2868">TS</a>]

00:47:50   would end and again best of the series [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2870">TS</a>]

00:47:52   is totally done so there's no need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2872">TS</a>]

00:47:54   worry about having to sort through 20 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2874">TS</a>]

00:47:56   years of continuity your backstory [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2876">TS</a>]

00:47:57   yeah yeah yeah yeah and it's and i also [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2877">TS</a>]

00:48:02   have anything the vikings are pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2882">TS</a>]

00:48:04   under represented in popular literature [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2884">TS</a>]

00:48:05   anyway so you might as well there's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2885">TS</a>]

00:48:08   big boom in Viking comics and that no [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2888">TS</a>]

00:48:10   that never happened [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2890">TS</a>]

00:48:11   now now something something I should [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2891">TS</a>]

00:48:14   throw in the just got announced as Brian [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2894">TS</a>]

00:48:15   Wood is is taking on the adjective lists [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2895">TS</a>]

00:48:18   x-men title and and it's going to start [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2898">TS</a>]

00:48:21   in an all tea all uniting is so excited [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2901">TS</a>]

00:48:24   about that yeah [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2904">TS</a>]

00:48:26   x-men misleading title come on really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2906">TS</a>]

00:48:30   get to be fairly accusing him of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2910">TS</a>]

00:48:31   innovation the sixties where you know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2911">TS</a>]

00:48:33   men was it seemed to stand for Humanity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2913">TS</a>]

00:48:35   in general Charles Xavier was a horrible [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2915">TS</a>]

00:48:38   horrible sexist or not [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2918">TS</a>]

00:48:41   okay that's great that's I things i have [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2921">TS</a>]

00:48:44   never even heard of i love it i love [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2924">TS</a>]

00:48:46   being completely surprised by what are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2926">TS</a>]

00:48:48   you reading Jason brightman what are you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2928">TS</a>]

00:48:49   reading [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2929">TS</a>]

00:48:50   well I'll go in the opposite sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2930">TS</a>]

00:48:52   direction and the book i'm most enjoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2932">TS</a>]

00:48:55   now is matt fraction's Hawkeye I've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2935">TS</a>]

00:48:58   heard such good things about that but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2938">TS</a>]

00:49:00   is so good and we can talk about it on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2940">TS</a>]

00:49:02   upcoming podcast because i think the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2942">TS</a>]

00:49:03   trade comes out in a month or two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2943">TS</a>]

00:49:05   yeah it comes I i want to say that comes [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2945">TS</a>]

00:49:07   out early februari buddy everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2947">TS</a>]

00:49:09   fractions been touching his turn to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2949">TS</a>]

00:49:10   absolute gold [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2950">TS</a>]

00:49:12   yeah the so this Hawkeye story every [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2952">TS</a>]

00:49:16   issue is self-contained uh no real [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2956">TS</a>]

00:49:19   continuity between the issues and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2959">TS</a>]

00:49:23   sort of as the kind of preamble of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2963">TS</a>]

00:49:25   book says this is what Hawkeye does when [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2965">TS</a>]

00:49:29   he's not saving the world with the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2969">TS</a>]

00:49:31   Avengers which is mostly hanging out in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2971">TS</a>]

00:49:34   his apartment and getting into trouble [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2974">TS</a>]

00:49:37   loop there's a beautiful scene where a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2977">TS</a>]

00:49:40   Tony Stark is over his house and I can't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2980">TS</a>]

00:49:43   even remember why but during the entire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2983">TS</a>]

00:49:45   conversation Hawkeyes trying to get his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2985">TS</a>]

00:49:47   his stereo system hooked up and failing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2987">TS</a>]

00:49:50   miserably to the point that a stark says [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2990">TS</a>]

00:49:54   look I'll just buy you a new one forget [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2994">TS</a>]

00:49:55   it let's go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2995">TS</a>]

00:49:57   it's a really really funny serious they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/2997">TS</a>]

00:50:00   did just have a aa2 issue event that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3000">TS</a>]

00:50:05   wasn't self-contained because it was two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3005">TS</a>]

00:50:07   issues but the artwork was so beautiful [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3007">TS</a>]

00:50:09   and the the cover of one was a VHS tape [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3009">TS</a>]

00:50:11   and the cover of the second one was that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3011">TS</a>]

00:50:13   VHS tape chattered and blood everywhere [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3013">TS</a>]

00:50:16   as it was a a tape that showed Hawkeye [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3016">TS</a>]

00:50:22   murdering somebody and this was a shield [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3022">TS</a>]

00:50:26   tape it was a VHS thing not even a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3026">TS</a>]

00:50:28   digital tape and then it got stolen and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3028">TS</a>]

00:50:30   was out for auction and Hawkeye had to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3030">TS</a>]

00:50:32   get it back and it was a really really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3032">TS</a>]

00:50:37   funny started and that's the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3037">TS</a>]

00:50:39   stories are so kind of light-hearted and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3039">TS</a>]

00:50:41   funny with a lot of heart and the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3041">TS</a>]

00:50:44   artworks beautiful and it's unlike any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3044">TS</a>]

00:50:46   other book on the Shelf right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3046">TS</a>]

00:50:48   now I'm reading an article here that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3048">TS</a>]

00:50:50   refers to it as the Avenger who is just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3050">TS</a>]

00:50:53   a dude and says that the plot of issue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3053">TS</a>]

00:50:56   number one is that his lair landlords [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3056">TS</a>]

00:50:58   have something about the rent and his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3058">TS</a>]

00:51:00   dog needs to go to the vet [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3060">TS</a>]

00:51:02   wow wow that's all if it was a cat i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3062">TS</a>]

00:51:06   think the dramatic statement be up [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3066">TS</a>]

00:51:08   dramatically with me out tremendously in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3068">TS</a>]

00:51:10   the latest issue of Captain Marvel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3070">TS</a>]

00:51:12   that's what Captain Marvel has to do is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3072">TS</a>]

00:51:14   take her cat to the vet now will be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3074">TS</a>]

00:51:18   seated during the pivotal sticking [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3078">TS</a>]

00:51:20   cramming your cat carrier secrets are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3080">TS</a>]

00:51:22   with that our vets funding secretly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3082">TS</a>]

00:51:25   funding Marvel now or like pet insurance [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3085">TS</a>]

00:51:27   secretly behind Marvel Comics know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3087">TS</a>]

00:51:30   so besides that i'm also reading and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3090">TS</a>]

00:51:31   enjoying the new value into books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3091">TS</a>]

00:51:33   oh yes all my god they're so good which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3093">TS</a>]

00:51:37   is surprising you know I was a big fan [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3097">TS</a>]

00:51:38   of them back in the early nineties and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3098">TS</a>]

00:51:41   you have to remember that in the early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3101">TS</a>]

00:51:44   nineties was more like the late eighties [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3104">TS</a>]

00:51:46   automatically it was before the image [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3106">TS</a>]

00:51:48   comics and the the big capes and badly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3108">TS</a>]

00:51:52   drawn characters and it was still about [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3112">TS</a>]

00:51:54   story and it really feels even though I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3114">TS</a>]

00:51:57   everything in the new valiant comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3117">TS</a>]

00:51:59   have all the modern sensibilities the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3119">TS</a>]

00:52:03   the stories feel very much like those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3123">TS</a>]

00:52:06   original valiant issues its they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3126">TS</a>]

00:52:08   doing a really great job and there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3128">TS</a>]

00:52:10   go changing stuff and making it more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3130">TS</a>]

00:52:11   modern but keeping the spirit of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3131">TS</a>]

00:52:13   characters so much intact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3133">TS</a>]

00:52:15   that's cool i remember you talking to me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3135">TS</a>]

00:52:17   about the old value stuff and then now [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3137">TS</a>]

00:52:19   they're now there's new family and stuff [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3139">TS</a>]

00:52:21   new value stuff end of them uh elegant [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3141">TS</a>]

00:52:25   i'm really liking Shadow Man and it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3145">TS</a>]

00:52:27   almost embarrassing to say but a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3147">TS</a>]

00:52:28   bloodshot is really really good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3148">TS</a>]

00:52:32   I didn't expect to like it at all no me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3152">TS</a>]

00:52:34   neither and the bloodshot the name it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3154">TS</a>]

00:52:36   just so stupid and it's kind of a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3156">TS</a>]

00:52:37   cliché of a a character now even back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3157">TS</a>]

00:52:42   then it really wasn't where the the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3162">TS</a>]

00:52:43   characters got these nanites that you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3163">TS</a>]

00:52:46   know can rebuild them from any injury [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3166">TS</a>]

00:52:48   but they've done a really sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3168">TS</a>]

00:52:50   interesting take on that as well as it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3170">TS</a>]

00:52:53   the the character who doesn't know who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3173">TS</a>]

00:52:55   he is and he's got to figure out his [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3175">TS</a>]

00:52:57   past and it's been pretty exciting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3177">TS</a>]

00:53:00   drawn really well and I did not expect [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3180">TS</a>]

00:53:02   to like it at all which then makes it so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3182">TS</a>]

00:53:04   much sweeter when you do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3184">TS</a>]

00:53:05   cool is what are you reading way too [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3185">TS</a>]

00:53:09   much map the new value books I've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3189">TS</a>]

00:53:13   catching up on the one that i was most [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3193">TS</a>]

00:53:15   delinquent on his Harbinger which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3195">TS</a>]

00:53:17   kids with powers but not where everybody [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3197">TS</a>]

00:53:21   gets together in a happy-go-lucky team [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3201">TS</a>]

00:53:23   and they have a nice mansion and their [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3203">TS</a>]

00:53:26   own jet and everything its you're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3206">TS</a>]

00:53:29   bringing me down man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3209">TS</a>]

00:53:30   yeah you know it the it's a different [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3210">TS</a>]

00:53:33   take on superhero tropes what what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3213">TS</a>]

00:53:35   they're doing across the valiant line [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3215">TS</a>]

00:53:37   and I've been I've been really impressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3217">TS</a>]

00:53:39   with it and at first i was like a value [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3219">TS</a>]

00:53:42   books are back aren't well that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3222">TS</a>]

00:53:43   interesting they're going to make more [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3223">TS</a>]

00:53:45   crappy video games [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3225">TS</a>]

00:53:47   oh wait no these are people who actually [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3227">TS</a>]

00:53:48   care okay great we have an episode [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3228">TS</a>]

00:53:51   giant-sized we talk about that plug 47 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3231">TS</a>]

00:53:55   ronin has been really good even though [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3235">TS</a>]

00:53:57   I've missed you so Jimbo for a number of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3237">TS</a>]

00:54:00   months as stan sakai has focused on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3240">TS</a>]

00:54:02   telling what is considered in terms of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3242">TS</a>]

00:54:06   ancient culture one of the definitive [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3246">TS</a>]

00:54:07   great Japanese myths in comic form i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3247">TS</a>]

00:54:12   don't think it's getting a whole lot of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3252">TS</a>]

00:54:13   attention because it's the guy who does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3253">TS</a>]

00:54:15   use audio Jimbo doing an ancient [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3255">TS</a>]

00:54:17   Japanese feudal myth but it's a really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3257">TS</a>]

00:54:20   good book and it's it's a limited run it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3260">TS</a>]

00:54:23   only be around for a little while and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3263">TS</a>]

00:54:24   then I'm catching up on all kinds of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3264">TS</a>]

00:54:26   stuff I'm digging back story i'm gonna [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3266">TS</a>]

00:54:29   start back at amazing spider-man 600 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3269">TS</a>]

00:54:31   work forward and see if they really are [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3271">TS</a>]

00:54:32   full of crap when they say they've been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3272">TS</a>]

00:54:34   playing this for nearly 10 years to do [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3274">TS</a>]

00:54:37   things that raised and Benjamin's blood [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3277">TS</a>]

00:54:39   pressure [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3279">TS</a>]

00:54:40   what else there's something there are 0 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3280">TS</a>]

00:54:43   new avengers now New Avengers i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3283">TS</a>]

00:54:46   reading because i'm totally nuts for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3286">TS</a>]

00:54:48   Doctor Strange and we'll pick up just [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3288">TS</a>]

00:54:50   about anything that he's in if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3290">TS</a>]

00:54:54   anything just to to to cast a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3294">TS</a>]

00:54:57   disapproving glare at it because I think [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3297">TS</a>]

00:55:01   he's the the most underused [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3301">TS</a>]

00:55:03   cool character that Marvel has but New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3303">TS</a>]

00:55:06   Avengers takes the conceit of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3306">TS</a>]

00:55:08   Illuminati group that he and Professor [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3308">TS</a>]

00:55:10   Xavier and Ireland Richards down for me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3310">TS</a>]

00:55:13   Reed Richards Reed Richards name or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3313">TS</a>]

00:55:15   these guys got together and decided they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3315">TS</a>]

00:55:18   were going to be the secret Council of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3318">TS</a>]

00:55:20   superpower do that we're going to rule [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3320">TS</a>]

00:55:21   earth and Black Bolt showed up and was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3321">TS</a>]

00:55:23   like yeah i'm i'm in um I'll just hang [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3323">TS</a>]

00:55:25   out in the back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3325">TS</a>]

00:55:26   well he didn't say that he wrote it on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3326">TS</a>]

00:55:28   oh yeah he said it with his eyes with it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3328">TS</a>]

00:55:31   because got a lot and signing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3331">TS</a>]

00:55:36   interpretive dance then at some point [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3336">TS</a>]

00:55:38   these guys came into possession of the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3338">TS</a>]

00:55:40   infinity gems which are very important [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3340">TS</a>]

00:55:43   thing in the Marvel Universe going back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3343">TS</a>]

00:55:45   to infinity gauntlet and the New [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3345">TS</a>]

00:55:47   Avengers are one of the many Avengers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3347">TS</a>]

00:55:51   plus adjective books but it's it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3351">TS</a>]

00:55:54   one that I find the most interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3354">TS</a>]

00:55:56   compelling alongside what I would argue [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3356">TS</a>]

00:55:58   is is is is starting to be a pretty [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3358">TS</a>]

00:56:02   compelling run on the core Avengers book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3362">TS</a>]

00:56:03   by jonathan hickman where the core [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3363">TS</a>]

00:56:06   vendors book they're gonna have like 80 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3366">TS</a>]

00:56:08   Avengers or something they've got guys [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3368">TS</a>]

00:56:10   like manifold who I forgot even existed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3370">TS</a>]

00:56:12   whose powers to essentially create a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3372">TS</a>]

00:56:15   door to go from point A to point B [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3375">TS</a>]

00:56:17   that's all he does is literally all he [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3377">TS</a>]

00:56:19   does is it he's a really good plot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3379">TS</a>]

00:56:21   device [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3381">TS</a>]

00:56:22   how is that any different than close [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3382">TS</a>]

00:56:24   though of cloak-and-dagger that's like [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3384">TS</a>]

00:56:25   clothes whole thing as he runs around [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3385">TS</a>]

00:56:27   his hot girlfriend and you have this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3387">TS</a>]

00:56:29   less dark this guy just has a door and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3389">TS</a>]

00:56:31   when you go through cloak and heat you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3391">TS</a>]

00:56:32   know the darkness tries to each you so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3392">TS</a>]

00:56:35   it's less than effective door this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3395">TS</a>]

00:56:37   just this is just a guy opening a door [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3397">TS</a>]

00:56:39   and on the other side is where you need [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3399">TS</a>]

00:56:40   to go now he's literally the Avengers [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3400">TS</a>]

00:56:42   doorman it's all the jagers early [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3402">TS</a>]

00:56:44   literally is i think i do improve a day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3404">TS</a>]

00:56:47   so where would you like to go there you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3407">TS</a>]

00:56:49   go have a good day [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3409">TS</a>]

00:56:51   you know animal the that the writing on [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3411">TS</a>]

00:56:53   him and some of the other characters [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3413">TS</a>]

00:56:54   stuff that people that they haven't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3414">TS</a>]

00:56:57   messed around with that much they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3417">TS</a>]

00:56:59   they're bringing some X x-men or former [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3419">TS</a>]

00:57:02   x-force people in like cannonballing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3422">TS</a>]

00:57:03   rector and they've the the cast of this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3423">TS</a>]

00:57:06   book three issues in is about 20 people [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3426">TS</a>]

00:57:09   but there's some big threat that they've [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3429">TS</a>]

00:57:11   all got a fight but but New Avengers is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3431">TS</a>]

00:57:14   the Illuminati guys facing a bigger [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3434">TS</a>]

00:57:18   threat that is is kind of on the scale [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3438">TS</a>]

00:57:21   of cascading quantum chaos threatening [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3441">TS</a>]

00:57:25   to end the universe and so they say well [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3445">TS</a>]

00:57:27   III guess we're gonna have to agree to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3447">TS</a>]

00:57:30   reassemble the infinity gauntlet and I'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3450">TS</a>]

00:57:33   sure that this is going to go really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3453">TS</a>]

00:57:35   well yeah ultimate power really never [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3455">TS</a>]

00:57:37   corrupts at all it'll be fine [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3457">TS</a>]

00:57:42   no my go-to book overall though is is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3462">TS</a>]

00:57:45   Deadpool which has consistently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3465">TS</a>]

00:57:46   entertain me in the four issues that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3466">TS</a>]

00:57:49   we've gotten since they relaunched it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3469">TS</a>]

00:57:50   without a bunch of weird stuff Daniel [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3470">TS</a>]

00:57:53   was doing with it the is he still the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3473">TS</a>]

00:57:56   fighting dead presidents [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3476">TS</a>]

00:57:57   yes he's still finding dead presidents I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3477">TS</a>]

00:57:59   think I think he fights Abe Lincoln in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3479">TS</a>]

00:58:02   the next one big one that's a big one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3482">TS</a>]

00:58:05   that's a big it's a big milestone I told [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3485">TS</a>]

00:58:07   i told the the guys riding it that if if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3487">TS</a>]

00:58:09   they didn't have something interesting [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3489">TS</a>]

00:58:10   in store for military Millard Fillmore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3490">TS</a>]

00:58:13   I that was it i'm just going to drop the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3493">TS</a>]

00:58:16   book but now they're there's so much [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3496">TS</a>]

00:58:18   good stuff out there i recently tried [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3498">TS</a>]

00:58:20   catching up on a bunch of the new 52 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3500">TS</a>]

00:58:21   stuff which a lot of which I dropped one [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3501">TS</a>]

00:58:24   or two months in just because it wasn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3504">TS</a>]

00:58:26   doing it for me now going back and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3506">TS</a>]

00:58:28   know looking back issues i realize [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3508">TS</a>]

00:58:30   exactly why I dropped 99.9 percent of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3510">TS</a>]

00:58:34   these books because either editorial was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3514">TS</a>]

00:58:38   you know running roughshod over the over [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3518">TS</a>]

00:58:41   the writers or it just been they didn't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3521">TS</a>]

00:58:44   gel very few of them still work i'm glad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3524">TS</a>]

00:58:47   that I stuck with the Batman books i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3527">TS</a>]

00:58:48   glad that i stopped pouring needless [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3528">TS</a>]

00:58:51   piles of money in the green lantern [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3531">TS</a>]

00:58:52   family of Lucky Charms books [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3532">TS</a>]

00:58:55   beeping red LED screen letters we what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3535">TS</a>]

00:58:58   me landed Zoolander we got lanterns for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3538">TS</a>]

00:59:00   every color in the rainbow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3540">TS</a>]

00:59:02   I got all the legends here rainbow [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3542">TS</a>]

00:59:04   Lanterns have a good like my little pony [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3544">TS</a>]

00:59:07   kind of competitor rainbow lanterns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3547">TS</a>]

00:59:09   yeah yeah frankly I would read at this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3549">TS</a>]

00:59:12   point i would rather read the my little [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3552">TS</a>]

00:59:14   pony friendship is magic book then any [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3554">TS</a>]

00:59:16   of the green lantern books because I i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3556">TS</a>]

00:59:18   feel like i'm getting one line of book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3558">TS</a>]

00:59:21   worth of story spread across [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3561">TS</a>]

00:59:23   five different comics which is just that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3563">TS</a>]

00:59:25   I'm sure that it probably does some good [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3565">TS</a>]

00:59:28   things for their balance sheet but i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3568">TS</a>]

00:59:29   just i'm not into that kind of crap [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3569">TS</a>]

00:59:31   anymore [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:31   well you're you're you're reading a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3571">TS</a>]

00:59:33   of stuff I gotta say way too much I i'm [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3573">TS</a>]

00:59:36   not i'm not reading so much and much of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3576">TS</a>]

00:59:39   the stuff that I'm reading is boring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3579">TS</a>]

00:59:40   because I've talked about before you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3580">TS</a>]

00:59:42   know still reading ultimate spider-man [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3582">TS</a>]

00:59:44   now Jason if they had the gender key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3584">TS</a>]

00:59:46   then they could take Ultimate Spider [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3586">TS</a>]

00:59:48   Woman and turned her back in 2 Peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3588">TS</a>]

00:59:50   Parker there you go would solve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3590">TS</a>]

00:59:53   everything so walking key mash-up with [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3593">TS</a>]

00:59:55   the Ultimate Universe and then we'll [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3595">TS</a>]

00:59:57   then finally there would be a peter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3597">TS</a>]

00:59:59   parker who was a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3599">TS</a>]

00:59:59   parker who was a lot [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3599">TS</a>]

01:00:00   I've again that'd be nice speaking of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3600">TS</a>]

01:00:03   which i did read amazing spider-man 700 [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3603">TS</a>]

01:00:05   and there's a whole podcast a me [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3605">TS</a>]

01:00:08   complaining about that I refer you to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3608">TS</a>]

01:00:10   that podcast for more i'm enjoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3610">TS</a>]

01:00:13   all-new i'm enjoying all-new x-men which [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3613">TS</a>]

01:00:16   is again Bendis and that is the kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3616">TS</a>]

01:00:18   ridiculous and yet a delightful premise [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3618">TS</a>]

01:00:20   of the original x-men being thrown into [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3620">TS</a>]

01:00:22   the modern-day world that we live in or [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3622">TS</a>]

01:00:25   at least the Marvel Universe equivalent [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3625">TS</a>]

01:00:26   and being kind of horrified and dealing [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3626">TS</a>]

01:00:28   with the fact that what happened to them [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3628">TS</a>]

01:00:30   when they all got all ball with a that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3630">TS</a>]

01:00:33   all growed up or in some people's cases [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3633">TS</a>]

01:00:36   got all megalomaniacal and died jun Greg [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3636">TS</a>]

01:00:40   not naming names Phoenix anyway uh huh [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3640">TS</a>]

01:00:43   i'm enjoying that I think that that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3643">TS</a>]

01:00:44   actually exploiting that premise really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3644">TS</a>]

01:00:48   well and it's a it's all about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3648">TS</a>]

01:00:51   characters and and and how they interact [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3651">TS</a>]

01:00:54   with the world and then they put kids [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3654">TS</a>]

01:00:55   sort of Kitty Pryde is their babysitter [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3655">TS</a>]

01:00:57   which is hilarious that give you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3657">TS</a>]

01:00:58   practice the authority figure over the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3658">TS</a>]

01:01:01   original x-men so I I've been enjoying [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3661">TS</a>]

01:01:04   that and and and i continue to enjoy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3664">TS</a>]

01:01:07   extreme x-men by Gregg Popovich just got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3667">TS</a>]

01:01:09   canceled which makes me very sad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3669">TS</a>]

01:01:11   so we're gonna officially have the wake [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3671">TS</a>]

01:01:12   for extreme x-men because I was [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3672">TS</a>]

01:01:15   following it to such a great book [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3675">TS</a>]

01:01:17   alternate universe hopping x-men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3677">TS</a>]

01:01:19   alternate Wolverine alternate micro kid [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3679">TS</a>]

01:01:21   Nightcrawler led by the dazzler from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3681">TS</a>]

01:01:24   main marvel universe who now apparently [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3684">TS</a>]

01:01:26   is available to be in that other x-men [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3686">TS</a>]

01:01:28   book with all the other women x-men I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3688">TS</a>]

01:01:30   suppose so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3690">TS</a>]

01:01:31   somebody should give dazzler call she's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3691">TS</a>]

01:01:33   she's free she's still dating Sam got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3693">TS</a>]

01:01:35   three [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:35   no no no she's been she's been busy [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3695">TS</a>]

01:01:39   yeah she's been she's been hopping [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3699">TS</a>]

01:01:40   hopping from from alternate reality to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3700">TS</a>]

01:01:42   alternate reality great book going to be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3702">TS</a>]

01:01:44   very sad to see it go but but I'm that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3704">TS</a>]

01:01:49   reading currently two x-men books that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3709">TS</a>]

01:01:51   a record for me since the days when i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3711">TS</a>]

01:01:53   was reading x-men new mutants in high [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3713">TS</a>]

01:01:55   school so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3715">TS</a>]

01:01:57   oh I wanted to mention also that I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3717">TS</a>]

01:01:58   signed up for Marvel's digital comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3718">TS</a>]

01:02:00   unlimited who which is now if you if you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3720">TS</a>]

01:02:04   pay whenever is fifty dollars for a year [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3724">TS</a>]

01:02:06   it will actually write work on the ipad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3726">TS</a>]

01:02:08   and it's not too bad [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3728">TS</a>]

01:02:10   surprisingly it used to be flash based [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3730">TS</a>]

01:02:12   entirely and it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3732">TS</a>]

01:02:13   basically like Netflix for Marvel Comics [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3733">TS</a>]

01:02:15   it won't give you anything current but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3735">TS</a>]

01:02:18   it does have a 10,000 comics they go [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3738">TS</a>]

01:02:22   back they got a lot of classics from the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3742">TS</a>]

01:02:25   sixties a lot of stuff from about sort [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3745">TS</a>]

01:02:27   of 225 years ago and then kind of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3747">TS</a>]

01:02:30   sporadic throughout that other error [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3750">TS</a>]

01:02:32   other issues that they've digitized but [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3752">TS</a>]

01:02:35   it's actually if you've got you know if [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3755">TS</a>]

01:02:38   you if you got a lot of time and want to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3758">TS</a>]

01:02:40   read lots of old Marvel Comics it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3760">TS</a>]

01:02:43   probably a pretty good deal certainly [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3763">TS</a>]

01:02:44   better than buying you will get the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3764">TS</a>]

01:02:46   current stuff but if you're not really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3766">TS</a>]

01:02:47   focused on the current stuff and and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3767">TS</a>]

01:02:49   reading spider-man 600 would be just as [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3769">TS</a>]

01:02:51   easy as reading spider-man 700 might be [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3771">TS</a>]

01:02:54   worth checking out its some still in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3774">TS</a>]

01:02:57   beta I get that I get the distinct [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3777">TS</a>]

01:02:58   impression that they have more work to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3778">TS</a>]

01:03:00   do it would really benefit from being [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3780">TS</a>]

01:03:02   inside a nap instead of just being in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3782">TS</a>]

01:03:03   the browser and I can't believe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3783">TS</a>]

01:03:06   aren't going to do that but but it does [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3786">TS</a>]

01:03:07   work in the browser so you can't you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3787">TS</a>]

01:03:09   can't view offline then no no it's it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3789">TS</a>]

01:03:11   a it's definitely like I said it's the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3791">TS</a>]

01:03:13   netflix of comics you basically need to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3793">TS</a>]

01:03:15   be online and you watched in in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3795">TS</a>]

01:03:18   browser and it but it does work which is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3798">TS</a>]

01:03:20   great because before it was only on a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3800">TS</a>]

01:03:21   computer with flash and I wasn't very [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3801">TS</a>]

01:03:25   good and once it's on the ipad it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3805">TS</a>]

01:03:27   changes the game a lot it makes it a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3807">TS</a>]

01:03:29   much more valuable thing so I've got [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3809">TS</a>]

01:03:31   some get some old issues of strange [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3811">TS</a>]

01:03:33   tales I need to catch up with maybe that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3813">TS</a>]

01:03:35   will be the way I was reading old old [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3815">TS</a>]

01:03:37   Marvel events where I I don't have to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3817">TS</a>]

01:03:39   get upset about about their continuity [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3819">TS</a>]

01:03:43   decisions or anything like that i can [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3823">TS</a>]

01:03:44   just sort of read the miniseries and you [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3824">TS</a>]

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01:03:50   all about and not worry about like what [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3830">TS</a>]

01:03:53   does this mean and you know it just let [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3833">TS</a>]

01:03:55   it's like it and I can't believe they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3835">TS</a>]

01:03:57   did that it's just I don't [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3837">TS</a>]

01:03:58   it happened in the past they reset it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3838">TS</a>]

01:04:00   all anyway it doesn't really matter and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3840">TS</a>]

01:04:01   I can you know I have to do is just wave [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3841">TS</a>]

01:04:03   your hands around it's done [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3843">TS</a>]

01:04:05   yep that's right I said no mutants [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3845">TS</a>]

01:04:08   why are there more mutants I said did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3848">TS</a>]

01:04:10   was I not clear [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3850">TS</a>]

01:04:11   no more mutants are you reading those [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3851">TS</a>]

01:04:15   old advancing going boy that really did [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3855">TS</a>]

01:04:18   change everything [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3858">TS</a>]

01:04:19   yeah yeah that happens all the time who [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3859">TS</a>]

01:04:21   I can't believe he died wow that really [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3861">TS</a>]

01:04:23   did change comics fundamental [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3863">TS</a>]

01:04:25   in every way forever it's hilarious to [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3865">TS</a>]

01:04:27   read it's becoming more character is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3867">TS</a>]

01:04:29   dying and know that they've already come [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3869">TS</a>]

01:04:30   back and died and come back multiple [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3870">TS</a>]

01:04:33   times since then but and and been reborn [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3873">TS</a>]

01:04:35   as a child and I would love to do a [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3875">TS</a>]

01:04:38   comic book club on house of them because [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3878">TS</a>]

01:04:40   looking back [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3880">TS</a>]

01:04:42   oh gods animals 10 years since that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3882">TS</a>]

01:04:43   thinking about you you have to admire [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3883">TS</a>]

01:04:45   that the scope of the ambition and this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3885">TS</a>]

01:04:47   year batting insanity that was it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3887">TS</a>]

01:04:51   many of that of of the twists and turns [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3891">TS</a>]

01:04:54   and that I'm and for what is essentially [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3894">TS</a>]

01:04:57   an imaginary yes it probably is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3897">TS</a>]

01:05:00   essentially basically like Bobby in the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3900">TS</a>]

01:05:02   shower at dallas i know i told i told i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3902">TS</a>]

01:05:06   told my wife that i was rid of what the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3906">TS</a>]

01:05:07   plot wasn't and she said why why would [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3907">TS</a>]

01:05:09   they turn it back was everybody happy I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3909">TS</a>]

01:05:11   said yeah well then why would they [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3911">TS</a>]

01:05:13   because it wasn't real she's like but it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3913">TS</a>]

01:05:14   was real they changed it to be real why [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3914">TS</a>]

01:05:16   would they know that's the thing that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3916">TS</a>]

01:05:17   kills me is is there's nothing in that [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3917">TS</a>]

01:05:19   that's that holds up i mean sure Steve [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3919">TS</a>]

01:05:21   Rogers gets hosed but you know demanded [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3921">TS</a>]

01:05:24   the hosted marble company we look at it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3924">TS</a>]

01:05:26   but you know everyone else is super [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3926">TS</a>]

01:05:29   happy and fulfilled them and I I field [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3929">TS</a>]

01:05:32   understand what the caustic to this [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3932">TS</a>]

01:05:35   universe is better [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3935">TS</a>]

01:05:36   let's keep it and instead it's all know [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3936">TS</a>]

01:05:39   you hear you're crazy and imagining [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3939">TS</a>]

01:05:41   things through everything has to ruin it [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3941">TS</a>]

01:05:43   for everyone again [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3943">TS</a>]

01:05:45   well there's this out there there's so [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3945">TS</a>]

01:05:46   many different ridiculous plot lines [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3946">TS</a>]

01:05:48   they've done like days of future past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3948">TS</a>]

01:05:49   age of apocalypse [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3949">TS</a>]

01:05:51   I would be believed to a podcast and age [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3951">TS</a>]

01:05:52   of apocalypse just to talk about the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3952">TS</a>]

01:05:54   hair alone and you know where we're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3954">TS</a>]

01:05:57   living in the year of days of future [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3957">TS</a>]

01:05:59   past right [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3959">TS</a>]

01:06:00   it's set in the year 2013 wow that's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3960">TS</a>]

01:06:02   great and they're making and they're [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3962">TS</a>]

01:06:04   making that as as a as a movie here and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3964">TS</a>]

01:06:07   they're merging the the x-men movie [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3967">TS</a>]

01:06:09   universes from the patrick stewart era [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3969">TS</a>]

01:06:11   and the first class Sarah it's all it's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3971">TS</a>]

01:06:14   all colliding [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3974">TS</a>]

01:06:15   oh yeah somehow like the star trek [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3975">TS</a>]

01:06:16   universe is do exactly i was sort of [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3976">TS</a>]

01:06:19   kind of my gues exactly we good right I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3979">TS</a>]

01:06:25   guess [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3985">TS</a>]

01:06:26   well I'm I'm glad that I'm not the only [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3986">TS</a>]

01:06:28   one crazy enough to to love all-new [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3988">TS</a>]

01:06:30   x-men it's it's been a lot of fun and I [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3990">TS</a>]

01:06:33   thought well maybe this will work for [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3993">TS</a>]

01:06:35   six issues but i think i think there is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3995">TS</a>]

01:06:37   an enduring [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3997">TS</a>]

01:06:38   concept for at least a little while in [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/3998">TS</a>]

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01:06:49   on the characters and trying to take the [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/4009">TS</a>]

01:06:52   concept and following it to some [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/4012">TS</a>]

01:06:53   interesting logical interesting places [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/4013">TS</a>]

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01:07:01   feel like it's the same kind of tricks [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/4021">TS</a>]

01:07:02   which is he's got these young x-men and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/4022">TS</a>]

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01:07:08   then you know he's explored all that and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/4028">TS</a>]

01:07:10   i think yeah it's still it's still plus [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/4030">TS</a>]

01:07:14   the stories he writes or so decompressed [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/4034">TS</a>]

01:07:16   that five issues like one story so he's [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/4036">TS</a>]

01:07:18   got lots of stories lots of issues left [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/4038">TS</a>]

01:07:20   in him even if he was like five stories [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/4040">TS</a>]

01:07:22   to tell that's going to take him two [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/4042">TS</a>]

01:07:23   more years about worth worth noting and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/4043">TS</a>]

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01:07:36   when this X weeks ago little have been [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/4056">TS</a>]

01:07:38   weeks ago weeks in the distant past [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/4058">TS</a>]

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01:07:49   time machine key [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/4069">TS</a>]

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01:07:58   analogical internal well so this is [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/4078">TS</a>]

01:08:00   great so we caught up on some comics and [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/4080">TS</a>]

01:08:02   we talked about locking key which i [<a href="https://overcast.fm/+kMZa07Wo/4082">TS</a>]

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